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JohnM1875
15-08-2024, 02:58 PM
It couldn't actually happen again, could it?
HoboHarry
15-08-2024, 03:17 PM
It couldn't actually happen again, could it?
There is always hope. Until they start being honest about the stadium issue and whatever that amounts to financially it's tough to figure out, but they certainly appear to be in a serious bind financially. This time though, any prospective new buyer would have to repair the stadium too. Have to say the excitement level is starting to rise for me.
ancient hibee
15-08-2024, 03:21 PM
Not sure where they are getting the 16M figure from - I had read previously it was way higher than that.
EDIT - ok it seems like the previous number I had read was accounting for ticket sales above and beyond the prize money. The gap in finances for the uglies is huge though - Sevco only got 39,000 for their game this week while Celtic will fill their stadium every game pretty much. Either way, being knocked out this week is an absolute disaster for Sevco.
There’s still another qualifying round. So although losing has cost them £4million they would have no guarantee of getting to the big time.
JohnM1875
15-08-2024, 03:23 PM
There is always hope. Until they start being honest about the stadium issue and whatever that amounts to financially it's tough to figure out, but they certainly appear to be in a serious bind financially. This time though, any prospective new buyer would have to repair the stadium too. Have to say the excitement level is starting to rise for me.
Same, I’m starting to believe again!
blackpoolhibs
15-08-2024, 03:24 PM
I'm sure someone on sky said it's around £40m Celtic will get? Not sure how true that is, but they will never be caught by the Huns in the near future if it is remotely true?
Iain G
15-08-2024, 03:28 PM
It couldn't actually happen again, could it?
Oops they did it again... 😁
CropleyWasGod
15-08-2024, 03:29 PM
It couldn't actually happen again, could it?
For me, the big difference from last time is that they don't have the enormous weight of HMRC round their necks. That is really what did for them last time.
While it's fairly clear that they are in a bad way, they have wiggle-room that they didn't before. That might be painful for them, but if they're self-aware and humble enough to accept that (stop laughing :greengrin), they can cut their cloth accordingly.
HoboHarry
15-08-2024, 03:48 PM
For me, the big difference from last time is that they don't have the enormous weight of HMRC round their necks. That is really what did for them last time.
While it's fairly clear that they are in a bad way, they have wiggle-room that they didn't before. That might be painful for them, but if they're self-aware and humble enough to accept that (stop laughing :greengrin), they can cut their cloth accordingly.
To be fair to them they've already started the cutting their cloth by getting rid of the high earners and Butland (IMHO) will be sold now to generate income. Their fans won't accept cutting their cloth though - you and I are both old enough to recall the John Grieg years (think he was in charge?) when their crowds were in the 4 digits. Financial gap from Celtic gets even wider etc etc etc.....
I think the problem arises with Elite Sports wanting a cash settlement and Rangers offering hospitality packages :greengrinCan The Renagers offer hospitality at Hamden?
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Moulin Yarns
15-08-2024, 04:22 PM
For me, the big difference from last time is that they don't have the enormous weight of HMRC round their necks. That is really what did for them last time.
While it's fairly clear that they are in a bad way, they have wiggle-room that they didn't before. That might be painful for them, but if they're self-aware and humble enough to accept that (stop laughing :greengrin), they can cut their cloth accordingly.
One word, boohoo!
Keith_M
15-08-2024, 06:07 PM
To be fair to them they've already started the cutting their cloth by getting rid of the high earners and Butland (IMHO) will be sold now to generate income. Their fans won't accept cutting their cloth though - you and I are both old enough to recall the John Grieg years (think he was in charge?) when their crowds were in the 4 digits. Financial gap from Celtic gets even wider etc etc etc.....
Which Charlie Miller was having a rant about in the Daily Record yesterday.
He doesn't seem to understand they simply can't afford a squad as expensive as Celtc's
For me, the big difference from last time is that they don't have the enormous weight of HMRC round their necks. That is really what did for them last time.
...that we know of.
While it's fairly clear that they are in a bad way, they have wiggle-room that they didn't before. That might be painful for them, but if they're self-aware and humble enough to accept that (stop laughing :greengrin), they can cut their cloth accordingly.
That's them goosed then.
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HoboHarry
15-08-2024, 11:04 PM
...that we know of.
That's them goosed then.
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The elephant in the room may well be whatever the stadium problem is, the notion that it's a late steel delivery is laughable.
gbhibby
15-08-2024, 11:12 PM
Wonder if the Easdale brothers will come back on the scene. Did the not act as guarantors in the past for The Rangers.
gbhibby
15-08-2024, 11:21 PM
https://youtu.be/19j95pGNzI8?si=vWJRsOWPEI1jLY_h
Rangers are a big club heaven help the wife's if they get beat. A piece of comedy gold especially Willie Waddell.
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Since90+2
16-08-2024, 06:32 AM
The elephant in the room may well be whatever the stadium problem is, the notion that it's a late steel delivery is laughable.
Not an area I'm an expert in by any means but as a company do they not have a legal obligation to make shareholders aware if they had knowledge of a serious issue to the stadium beyond the delivery of steel?
Springbank
16-08-2024, 07:51 AM
Not an area I'm an expert in by any means but as a company do they not have a legal obligation to make shareholders aware if they had knowledge of a serious issue to the stadium beyond the delivery of steel?
Stuck inside the ever-declining Brexit Britain, I'm sure Brittania will Waive The Rules somehow
Meanwhile, a fact that will be missed by most of the red white & blue thugs, Polands Average income overtook the UK this year, and the poorest Irish now have a standard of living 60% higher than the poorest in the UK.
https://www.worldeconomics.com/Thoughts/Has-Union-with-Britain-Been-an-Economic-Calamity-for-Northern-Ireland-V4.aspx?ThoughtID=77
Sevco dying & a return to the world's biggest (most lucrative) international Single Market for Scotland would make for a lovely 2025 & our 150th birthday as a European club
Jones28
16-08-2024, 09:02 AM
They'll do another share issue and confirm for all of us that they are indeed skint.
we are hibs
16-08-2024, 09:20 AM
Hun in group chat reckons they're about to poach Hearts CEO later today
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snedzuk
16-08-2024, 09:27 AM
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186534-d2720452-r558356309-Ibrox_Stadium-Glasgow_Scotland.html
Filter this for the 1 star reviews.
Billy Whizz
16-08-2024, 10:59 AM
Hun in group chat reckons they're about to poach Hearts CEO later today
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Was rumoured a few weeks back
JeMeSouviens
16-08-2024, 11:10 AM
For me, the big difference from last time is that they don't have the enormous weight of HMRC round their necks. That is really what did for them last time.
While it's fairly clear that they are in a bad way, they have wiggle-room that they didn't before. That might be painful for them, but if they're self-aware and humble enough to accept that (stop laughing :greengrin), they can cut their cloth accordingly.
Yep, the creditors this time are largely rich huns who presumably were happy to take the risk of not getting repaid.
Also, the structure is different in that there genuinely *is* a holding company this time. Rangers mk 1 was Rangers FC plc that had all the debt and held the league share and SFA membership. With Rangers mk2, I think most of the debt is in "Rangers International" which wholly owns Rangers FC ltd, and the latter entity has the league share and membership. Presumably Rangers International could be admin'd and sell off RFC ltd as an intact thing.
This year Celtc will probably match their (Hun and NewHun combined) 55 championships and pull ahead in overall trophies. It will be interesting to see if the no-surrender-orange-strips tactics of playing to the bigots is enough to keep their attendances up if/when that happens.
If anyone put money into The Rangers expecting to a penny of it back, they are fools
Although they talk about investing, these people are not investing to see a penny back, they are looking for success and also and prestige that comes from their investment
greenginger
16-08-2024, 11:59 AM
Hun in group chat reckons they're about to poach Hearts CEO later today
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Be good to see Mrs Budge back in full charge.
Yep, the creditors this time are largely rich huns who presumably were happy to take the risk of not getting repaid.
Also, the structure is different in that there genuinely *is* a holding company this time. Rangers mk 1 was Rangers FC plc that had all the debt and held the league share and SFA membership. With Rangers mk2, I think most of the debt is in "Rangers International" which wholly owns Rangers FC ltd, and the latter entity has the league share and membership. Presumably Rangers International could be admin'd and sell off RFC ltd as an intact thing.
This year Celtc will probably match their (Hun and NewHun combined) 55 championships and pull ahead in overall trophies. It will be interesting to see if the no-surrender-orange-strips tactics of playing to the bigots is enough to keep their attendances up if/when that happens.Could be death by a thousand cuts this time. If the stickies aren't winning their undying loyalty strangely disappears. Most of them don't go to see their team, they go to gloat and display the triumphalism. Less weirdos in Scottish grounds so all good.
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Ozyhibby
16-08-2024, 12:20 PM
Yep, the creditors this time are largely rich huns who presumably were happy to take the risk of not getting repaid.
Also, the structure is different in that there genuinely *is* a holding company this time. Rangers mk 1 was Rangers FC plc that had all the debt and held the league share and SFA membership. With Rangers mk2, I think most of the debt is in "Rangers International" which wholly owns Rangers FC ltd, and the latter entity has the league share and membership. Presumably Rangers International could be admin'd and sell off RFC ltd as an intact thing.
This year Celtc will probably match their (Hun and NewHun combined) 55 championships and pull ahead in overall trophies. It will be interesting to see if the no-surrender-orange-strips tactics of playing to the bigots is enough to keep their attendances up if/when that happens.
Will Sevconians be proclaiming Celtic as the most successful club in the world?
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HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 12:44 PM
Could be death by a thousand cuts this time. If the stickies aren't winning their undying loyalty strangely disappears. Most of them don't go to see their team, they go to gloat and display the triumphalism. Less weirdos in Scottish grounds so all good.
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I mentioned the John Grieg years yesterday when their crowds were in the 4 digits, they'll abandon ship like other fans do when they are struggling and no solution in sight.
HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 12:47 PM
Will Sevconians be proclaiming Celtic as the most successful club in the world?
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Probably not, they'll claim that the titles won by Celtic while they were in the lower leagues didn't count. :faf:
JohnM1875
16-08-2024, 12:48 PM
Probably not, they'll claim that the titles won by Celtic while they were in the lower leagues didn't count. :faf:
They've kinda done the opposite, they're now counting the trophies won in the lower leagues including the Petrofac cup. Absolutely desperate.
Probably start doing both soon!
Keith_M
17-08-2024, 08:50 AM
I was in Mount Florida a few hours before their game on Wednesday when the scarf/flag sellers were getting set up.
The stuff they had on sale went from the bizarre to the shocking; the usual Union Jacks & King Billy stuff, flags with pictures of King Charlie.... plus orange and blue scarves with the words 'Proper Protestant'
:rolleyes:
These people are just weird!
Garymcl
18-08-2024, 05:28 PM
Just read Saints fan a 51 year old woman assaulted outside hampden before game a few Huns arrested ,they are absolute ****
Keith_M
18-08-2024, 05:49 PM
Just read Saints fan a 51 year old woman assaulted outside hampden before game a few Huns arrested ,they are absolute ****
Apparently a St Johnstone employee, attacked by a 22 year old Hun who was then arrested
Bostonhibby
18-08-2024, 06:29 PM
Apparently a St Johnstone employee, attacked by a 22 year old Hun who was then arrestedhttps://x.com/Slimshady1961/status/1824916678079062167?t=8aGOFRV_OWLX1btHiWbWhg&s=08
Huns being huns
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Billy Whizz
18-08-2024, 06:40 PM
Apparently a St Johnstone employee, attacked by a 22 year old Hun who was then arrested
She’s their SLO
04Sauzee
27-08-2024, 03:44 PM
BREAKING! Rangers 'wanted' in £150m takeover as American investors 'consider bid' for Ibrox club
dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…
HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 03:48 PM
BREAKING! Rangers 'wanted' in £150m takeover as American investors 'consider bid' for Ibrox club
dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…
Aye right. God knows what their debt is and their stadium is out of action. They'd get a better return on an English club
Springbank
27-08-2024, 04:06 PM
BREAKING! Rangers 'wanted' in £150m takeover as American investors 'consider bid' for Ibrox club
dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…
Being kind, this headline looks like it has put the decimal point in the wrong place
JohnM1875
27-08-2024, 04:07 PM
BREAKING! Rangers 'wanted' in £150m takeover as American investors 'consider bid' for Ibrox club
dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…
Need to get some good news stories out there just now I suppose. Stop their fans moaning about lack of transfer activity and an upcoming spanking from Celtic.
HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 04:14 PM
Need to get some good news stories out there just now I suppose. Stop their fans moaning about lack of transfer activity and an upcoming spanking from Celtic.
Exactly, homeless, broke, window about to close with no major signings and their rivals spending millions. What's better than having one of their MSM acolytes throw out a squirrel? Mind you, the half-heids will fall for it for the most part.
CropleyWasGod
27-08-2024, 04:40 PM
Another story where the headline doesn't reflect the piece itself.
The new group value the club at £150m, and they want a minority share. So any money being paid in would be to some of the current shareholders, not the club.
HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 04:43 PM
Another story where the headline doesn't reflect the piece itself.
The new group value the club at £150m, and they want a minority share. So any money being paid in would be to some of the current shareholders, not the club.
Dave King et al trying to recoup what they can?
Joe6-2
27-08-2024, 04:46 PM
Need to get some good news stories out there just now I suppose. Stop their fans moaning about lack of transfer activity and an upcoming spanking from Celtic.
And trust the rag that is the DR to give them just that
CropleyWasGod
27-08-2024, 05:04 PM
Dave King et al trying to recoup what they can?
On the face of it, that's the only positive for anyone. If that headline £150m is correct, DK will get about £21m. Not sure how that compares with what he paid for his shares.
04Sauzee
27-08-2024, 06:24 PM
Update 😂
BREAKING: Dave King breaks silence on bombshell Rangers takeover claim as ex-chairman insists there's NO TRUTH in American interest reports
thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13431557…
HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 06:37 PM
Update 😂
BREAKING: Dave King breaks silence on bombshell Rangers takeover claim as ex-chairman insists there's NO TRUTH in American interest reports
thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13431557…
Did Dave King really say that? He isn't even trying to keep friends at Ibrox is he? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha........ **** "em......
Bostonhibby
27-08-2024, 06:42 PM
BREAKING! Rangers 'wanted' in £150m takeover as American investors 'consider bid' for Ibrox club
dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…How much are they worth without a stadium?
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Smartie
27-08-2024, 06:46 PM
How much are they worth without a stadium?
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Without a RAAC-ridden, asbestos infested hovel in Govan that's going to cost a fortune to clear?
£200m at that rate.
Bostonhibby
27-08-2024, 06:59 PM
Without a RAAC-ridden, asbestos infested hovel in Govan that's going to cost a fortune to clear?
£200m at that rate.More if they get mate's rates at hampden
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HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 07:11 PM
With Sevco watching Celtic race off into the distance it makes you wonder about the mental health of those that are trying to lead them? It must take a toll and I wonder what more it would take for them individually to chuck it and quit?
Keith_M
27-08-2024, 07:14 PM
Daily Record have now done a complete U-Turn on their earlier story, since Dave King ruined it for them
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/rangers-board-takeover-dave-king-33548951
:tee hee:
ian cruise
27-08-2024, 07:15 PM
Another story where the headline doesn't reflect the piece itself.
The new group value the club at £150m, and they want a minority share. So any money being paid in would be to some of the current shareholders, not the club.
Though it's likely nonsense how would this work if someone was interested in buying a stake in the club, would the opportunity exist for anyone who has shares be able to sell them?
I ask as we inherited some shares when my dad passed away and obviously have no interest in keeping them, but at the minute you can't sell so we're stuck with them.
HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 07:17 PM
Though it's likely nonsense how would this work if someone was interested in buying a stake in the club, would the opportunity exist for anyone who has shares be able to sell them?
I ask as we inherited some shares when my dad passed away and obviously have no interest in keeping them, but at the minute you can't sell so we're stuck with them.
I think Dave King has been trying to sell his for years.
CropleyWasGod
27-08-2024, 08:18 PM
Though it's likely nonsense how would this work if someone was interested in buying a stake in the club, would the opportunity exist for anyone who has shares be able to sell them?
I ask as we inherited some shares when my dad passed away and obviously have no interest in keeping them, but at the minute you can't sell so we're stuck with them.
I didn't realise that there were restrictions in place. In that case, the story is even more of a nonsense.
ian cruise
27-08-2024, 08:21 PM
I didn't realise that there were restrictions in place. In that case, the DR piece is even more of a nonsense.
Yeah, can't sell them and even getting them transfered was an absolute nightmare.
HoboHarry
27-08-2024, 08:25 PM
Though it's likely nonsense how would this work if someone was interested in buying a stake in the club, would the opportunity exist for anyone who has shares be able to sell them?
I ask as we inherited some shares when my dad passed away and obviously have no interest in keeping them, but at the minute you can't sell so we're stuck with them.
What's the reason for not being able to sell?
Cabbage-Patch
27-08-2024, 08:37 PM
Not Rangers related but didn't want to start a new thread but some Hearts fans on twitter spreading a false rumour Cammy Devlin has died. Strange bunch
ian cruise
27-08-2024, 09:19 PM
What's the reason for not being able to sell?
Shares are suspended or something like that. Didn't bother my dad as he never had intention of selling them (thought he was doing his bit to save the club or some nonsense) but I've no interest in them. Causes me a slight conflict because I like to see them suffer/being a joke but it reduces my chances of actually getting anything for the shares at some point in the future.
JohnM1875
30-08-2024, 11:23 AM
About to take some spankings in Europe as well. Though, probably a decent payday with United away;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWOdaX_WEAASwsH?format=jpg&name=900x900
JimBHibees
30-08-2024, 11:28 AM
About to take some spankings in Europe as well. Though, probably a decent payday with United away;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWOdaX_WEAASwsH?format=jpg&name=900x900
So many games absolutely ridiculous
Hibernian Verse
30-08-2024, 11:30 AM
So many games absolutely ridiculous
You'll not be saying that if we ever - miraculously - get into the group stages. Look's like the dream to me...
Jones28
30-08-2024, 11:38 AM
About to take some spankings in Europe as well. Though, probably a decent payday with United away;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWOdaX_WEAASwsH?format=jpg&name=900x900
I'll be surprised if they bag more than 5 points from those games.
PatHead
30-08-2024, 11:39 AM
Bet the Manchester police are delighted with the draw
Lancs Harp
30-08-2024, 11:42 AM
Bet the Manchester police are delighted with the draw
Christ only just got rid of the stench of Glaswegian piss since their last visit.
Trinity Hibee
30-08-2024, 11:42 AM
So many games absolutely ridiculous
8 games. They’d have had 6 or 8 in the normal group stage no?
HoboHarry
30-08-2024, 11:47 AM
Bet the Manchester police are delighted with the draw
Hope the term revenge is forefront in their minds....
Lancs Harp
30-08-2024, 11:48 AM
8 games. They’d have had 6 or 8 in the normal group stage no?
6 in the previous format
JimBHibees
30-08-2024, 11:50 AM
8 games. They’d have had 6 or 8 in the normal group stage no?
6 just seems a total waste of time 😄
JimBHibees
30-08-2024, 11:50 AM
Bet the Manchester police are delighted with the draw
Indeed
HoboHarry
30-08-2024, 05:29 PM
Hope they get trashed every game they play. **** 'em.
Billy Whizz
11-09-2024, 09:19 AM
The new CEO who was joining them from St Mirren, has allegedly turned them down
Donegal Hibby
11-09-2024, 10:07 AM
The new CEO who was joining them from St Mirren, has allegedly turned them down
Just read that in the sun which said he was a lifelong hun fan too , maybe, hopefully the **** is about to hit the fan there ( one can only hope🤞)
Keith_M
11-09-2024, 04:11 PM
Just read that in the sun which said he was a lifelong hun fan too , maybe, hopefully the **** is about to hit the fan there ( one can only hope🤞)
If The Rangers go bust by the end of the season, IL buy everybody on here a drink.
* Members only!
HoboHarry
11-09-2024, 04:15 PM
If The Rangers go bust by the end of the season, IL buy everybody on here a drink.
* Members only!
I've more or less given up on them going bust but I'll settle for them being absolutely crippled by debt and getting pummeled frequently :greengrin Relegated eventually too I hope.
Eyrie
11-09-2024, 06:46 PM
If The Rangers go bust by the end of the season, IL buy everybody on here a drink.
* Members only!
Being a PM, your offer to buy me a double 25 year old Macallan is hereby accepted and screenshotted.
Now for Sevco to do their bit so I can celebrate with it.
Keith_M
14-09-2024, 05:19 PM
"(The Rangers Chairman) Bennett quits for 'health reasons'..."
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24585073.bennett-quits-health-reasons-interim-rangers-chairman-named/
:hmmm:
Stress, maybe?
HoboHarry
14-09-2024, 11:10 PM
"(The Rangers Chairman) Bennett quits for 'health reasons'..."
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24585073.bennett-quits-health-reasons-interim-rangers-chairman-named/
:hmmm:
Stress, maybe?
Leading that mob would break anyone's health and I wish him a speedy recovery. Whoever takes the role is taking on a poisoned chalice with the financial superiority Celtic now have.
Viva_Palmeiras
16-09-2024, 08:42 PM
What’s David Murray up to these days post bankrupting himself?
HoboHarry
16-09-2024, 08:45 PM
What’s David Murray up to these days post bankrupting himself?
They should be more worried about Dave King, I read he wants to get his grubby hands back inside the big hoose.
matty_f
16-09-2024, 08:48 PM
They should be more worried about Dave King, I read he wants to get his grubby hands back inside the big hoose.
He’s definitely got one eye on coming back.
HoboHarry
16-09-2024, 08:49 PM
He’s definitely got one eye on coming back.
Aye and they other one scouring the landscape to find whoever he can fleece next.
Cooshed Kid
17-09-2024, 01:00 AM
I hope Bennett makes a speedy recovery, too. This possibly shows the peril of getting too close to the club you love, if his problems are in any way stress-related. I gather he has quite a passion for his club and probably he got an awful lot of abuse for failing to overcome the Celtic behemoth even as FSR makes it more and more difficult. We have so many posters who think they could do better than the Gordons in running Hibs but they have little idea how big the toll on their health and sanity can be for those who care too much.
CentreLine
17-09-2024, 04:41 AM
I hope Bennett makes a speedy recovery, too. This possibly shows the peril of getting too close to the club you love, if his problems are in any way stress-related. I gather he has quite a passion for his club and probably he got an awful lot of abuse for failing to overcome the Celtic behemoth even as FSR makes it more and more difficult. We have so many posters who think they could do better than the Gordons in running Hibs but they have little idea how big the toll on their health and sanity can be for those who care too much.
Well said. Some things are more important than football.
Donegal Hibby
17-09-2024, 02:30 PM
Funny😂😂…
https://youtu.be/b9VdamYKOzk
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13642021/rangers-ultras-firework-shame-copland-chaos-bill-leckie-europa/
They get away with it in the league, hopefully UEFA throw the book at them.
Keith_M
04-10-2024, 07:18 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13642021/rangers-ultras-firework-shame-copland-chaos-bill-leckie-europa/
They get away with it in the league, hopefully UEFA throw the book at them.
'Representatives from the SFA, SPFL, Police Scotland (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/), Football Safety Officers (Scotland) Association and the Scottish government met at Hampden back in the November of 2023 to discuss a coordinated action plan in the wake of a pyrotechnic mass display by Rangers fans at Dens Park which resulted in players being taken back into their dressing rooms.
...Oil tankers which are stuck in the Suez Canal move quicker than they have....'
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24629893.rangers-must-ban-union-bears-ibrox-lyon-pyro-display/
The Scotsman thinks these displays by LOYAL Rangers fans are BRILLIANT.
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jacomo
04-10-2024, 08:02 PM
I hope Bennett makes a speedy recovery, too. This possibly shows the peril of getting too close to the club you love, if his problems are in any way stress-related. I gather he has quite a passion for his club and probably he got an awful lot of abuse for failing to overcome the Celtic behemoth even as FSR makes it more and more difficult. We have so many posters who think they could do better than the Gordons in running Hibs but they have little idea how big the toll on their health and sanity can be for those who care too much.
I think his stress comes from a previous chairman (the lying king) openly criticising him.
Taking on Celtc is one thing, but taking on enemies within at the same time seems too much.
CentreLine
04-10-2024, 09:02 PM
'Representatives from the SFA, SPFL, Police Scotland (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/), Football Safety Officers (Scotland) Association and the Scottish government met at Hampden back in the November of 2023 to discuss a coordinated action plan in the wake of a pyrotechnic mass display by Rangers fans at Dens Park which resulted in players being taken back into their dressing rooms.
...Oil tankers which are stuck in the Suez Canal move quicker than they have....'
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/24629893.rangers-must-ban-union-bears-ibrox-lyon-pyro-display/
Wow. Was that last year already. I just don’t understand why this has not been given a priority. It stinks on so many safety levels as well as just stinks and sticks in your throat.
I think the time it really struck home was when the smoke alarm went off at Livingston v Rangers and everyone just ignored it. Match should have been stopped and that part of the ground evacuated, surely.
tamig
04-10-2024, 09:50 PM
Wow. Was that last year already. I just don’t understand why this has not been given a priority. It stinks on so many safety levels as well as just stinks and sticks in your throat.
I think the time it really struck home was when the smoke alarm went off at Livingston v Rangers and everyone just ignored it. Match should have been stopped and that part of the ground evacuated, surely.
What always sticks in my throat is the outlandish aftermath of our Cup win in 2016. How much cash did Police Scotland waste on hunting down the pitch invaders? It was an obscene waste of public money. And these erses get away with this pyro nonsense all over the country.
HoboHarry
04-10-2024, 10:02 PM
John Gilligan will take tough decisions? Aye sure he will, pretty sure that when Graham Spiers got banned from Ibrox, Gilligan told him that he liked hearing the Billy Boys and that it added to the atmosphere. He's as full of s***e as the rest of them.
What always sticks in my throat is the outlandish aftermath of our Cup win in 2016. How much cash did Police Scotland waste on hunting down the pitch invaders? It was an obscene waste of public money. And these erses get away with this pyro nonsense all over the country.It's almost like there's one rule for them and another for us.
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JimBHibees
05-10-2024, 09:05 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13642021/rangers-ultras-firework-shame-copland-chaos-bill-leckie-europa/
They get away with it in the league, hopefully UEFA throw the book at them.
McCoist on the commentary came out with the line is that smoke coming from outside the ground as the camera panned to the lit pyros in the crowd. More faces than the town clock that boy.
CentreLine
05-10-2024, 10:29 AM
McCoist on the commentary came out with the line is that smoke coming from outside the ground as the camera panned to the lit pyros in the crowd. More faces than the town clock that boy.
No! Surely not. But then some people extraordinary at making up excuses before they’re even asked for them.
Pete70
05-10-2024, 10:33 AM
Reports this morning of a hefty fine from UEFA heading their way and possibly partial stadium closure for a future game.
Bostonhibby
05-10-2024, 10:39 AM
Reports this morning of a hefty fine from UEFA heading their way and possibly partial stadium closure for a future game.Surely the hun defence will be they thought it was okay because the Scottish football authorities never do anything about it and at least one Scottish media outlet thinks it's a great display of loyalty?
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CentreLine
05-10-2024, 02:58 PM
Surely the hun defence will be they thought it was okay because the Scottish football authorities never do anything about it and at least one Scottish media outlet thinks it's a great display of loyalty?
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Nah! The smoke was coming from outside the ground. They’ll be let off 🤔
NeilT
19-10-2024, 10:52 AM
RFC 2012 P.L.C. ( previously RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB P.L.C. )
Incorporated on 27 May 1899
Dissolved following liquidation on 17 October 2024
snedzuk
19-10-2024, 01:21 PM
RFC 2012 P.L.C. ( previously RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB P.L.C. )
Incorporated on 27 May 1899
Dissolved following liquidation on 17 October 2024
If this company has any assets, liquidating it before the budget is probably a no brainer due to the noise around capital gains hikes. Does anyone benefit from the liquidation.
supershotmo
19-10-2024, 01:56 PM
So officially the new Rangers now.
Lendo
24-10-2024, 01:23 PM
https://x.com/BabaGol_/status/1849287868440625520
Drink driving Morelos has hit a motorcyclist and left them in a critical condition. One of the worst human-beings to have ever graced Scottish football.
weecounty hibby
24-10-2024, 02:44 PM
https://x.com/BabaGol_/status/1849287868440625520
Drink driving Morelos has hit a motorcyclist and left them in a critical condition. One of the worst human-beings to have ever graced Scottish football.
If ever there was a player and a club that was a perfect match it was him and the hun
Lendo
24-10-2024, 03:03 PM
Reading that the drink drive limit in Colombia is 2.5 times that of Scotland and he was 2 times over that limit. The boy must have been fair gone.
CentreLine
24-10-2024, 06:40 PM
Tragic for the victim, victim’s loved ones and also for those around Morelos that have to pick up the pieces.
https://x.com/BabaGol_/status/1849287868440625520
Drink driving Morelos has hit a motorcyclist and left them in a critical condition. One of the worst human-beings to have ever graced Scottish football.
CCTV footage of it on Twitter (Zach Lowy). Morelos is all over the place, clipping a truck and possibly another motorbike before the head on collision but it actually seems like the guy on the motorbike was on the wrong side of road. Not that I'm excusing Morelos, he could well get a jail sentence which would be deserved.
JohnM1875
29-10-2024, 04:34 PM
Annual results posted, from the DR;
"Rangers have announced an operating loss of £17.2million in the past financial year.
The Ibrox club released the annual report and accompanying financial statement for the year ended 30 June 2023 which is in stark contrast to last year’s. Twelve months ago the club posted a slim operating profit of £252,000 but it’s a sorrier sight now with cash being haemorrhaged.
The figures do show record core revenue is up by £5m to £88.3m. But total operating expenses – or costs – remain high at £110m. Staff costs account for £61m, down by £3m on last year. The outlay of their short term Hampden tenancy was also listed with Rangers writing the Scottish Football Association a cheque for £67,000.
The Ibrox club counted the cost of Michael Beale's summer spending spree last season as well as paying off the Englishman who was replaced by Philippe Clement. The club missed out on the Champions League last season, losing to PSV Eindhoven in the qualifiers but reached the last-16 of the Europa League where they lost to Benfica.
The Light Blues lifted the League Cup but blew two more trophy chances as they surrendered their advantage over Celtic in the Scottish Premiership run-in and lost the Scottish Cup final to their fierce rivals.
Crucially, the club say they are "free of any litigation claims for first time in over a decade following settlements" and interim chairman John Gilligan said: “Undoubtedly, it has been a challenging period for the football club with significant change occurring both on and off the park throughout both season 2023/24 and over the summer months.
"As part of these changes John Bennett stepped away from his role as Chairman in order to focus on his health. John remains a supportive shareholder and investor in the club and I’d like to place on record my thanks for his leadership both as Chairman and a Director over the past nine years. We look forward to welcoming you back to Ibrox.
“In addition, we have had a number of changes in senior leadership positions with the CEO, James Bisgrove, departing to join Al-Qadsiah in the Saudi Premier League and Creag Robertson recently departing as our Director of Football Operations. We wish both James and Creag all the best in their future careers and thank them for their efforts with the football club.
“Whilst we continue our search for the outstanding candidate for the CEO position, we retain a strong executive team within the football club led by our Chief Financial Officer, James Taylor, Chief Commercial Officer, Karim Virani and our Director of Football Recruitment, Nils Koppen. All three were recruited in the period under review, and, as you can see from our underlying performance, there have been significant steps made in a short period of time in delivering against our strategic objectives.
“The challenges encountered with the redevelopment of the Copland Road stand have been well documented, and as a Board we once again apologise to our supporters for the inconvenience caused by the delays in returning to our home. The support received at Hampden was outstanding and epitomises the link that our great club has with our supporters. I’d also like to once again place on record my thanks to the SFA, SPFL and UEFA for their understanding and support through this period.
“With the Copland Road stand now complete, we are extremely proud of the work undertaken to upgrade and improve the facilities for our disabled supporters. They truly are now some of the best facilities in Europe and are evidence of the Board’s commitment to continue to modernise and improve Ibrox and the wider campus.”
£17 million quid!
Bostonhibby
29-10-2024, 04:44 PM
Annual results posted, from the DR;
"Rangers have announced an operating loss of £17.2million in the past financial year.
The Ibrox club released the annual report and accompanying financial statement for the year ended 30 June 2023 which is in stark contrast to last year’s. Twelve months ago the club posted a slim operating profit of £252,000 but it’s a sorrier sight now with cash being haemorrhaged.
The figures do show record core revenue is up by £5m to £88.3m. But total operating expenses – or costs – remain high at £110m. Staff costs account for £61m, down by £3m on last year. The outlay of their short term Hampden tenancy was also listed with Rangers writing the Scottish Football Association a cheque for £67,000.
The Ibrox club counted the cost of Michael Beale's summer spending spree last season as well as paying off the Englishman who was replaced by Philippe Clement. The club missed out on the Champions League last season, losing to PSV Eindhoven in the qualifiers but reached the last-16 of the Europa League where they lost to Benfica.
The Light Blues lifted the League Cup but blew two more trophy chances as they surrendered their advantage over Celtic in the Scottish Premiership run-in and lost the Scottish Cup final to their fierce rivals.
Crucially, the club say they are "free of any litigation claims for first time in over a decade following settlements" and interim chairman John Gilligan said: “Undoubtedly, it has been a challenging period for the football club with significant change occurring both on and off the park throughout both season 2023/24 and over the summer months.
"As part of these changes John Bennett stepped away from his role as Chairman in order to focus on his health. John remains a supportive shareholder and investor in the club and I’d like to place on record my thanks for his leadership both as Chairman and a Director over the past nine years. We look forward to welcoming you back to Ibrox.
“In addition, we have had a number of changes in senior leadership positions with the CEO, James Bisgrove, departing to join Al-Qadsiah in the Saudi Premier League and Creag Robertson recently departing as our Director of Football Operations. We wish both James and Creag all the best in their future careers and thank them for their efforts with the football club.
“Whilst we continue our search for the outstanding candidate for the CEO position, we retain a strong executive team within the football club led by our Chief Financial Officer, James Taylor, Chief Commercial Officer, Karim Virani and our Director of Football Recruitment, Nils Koppen. All three were recruited in the period under review, and, as you can see from our underlying performance, there have been significant steps made in a short period of time in delivering against our strategic objectives.
“The challenges encountered with the redevelopment of the Copland Road stand have been well documented, and as a Board we once again apologise to our supporters for the inconvenience caused by the delays in returning to our home. The support received at Hampden was outstanding and epitomises the link that our great club has with our supporters. I’d also like to once again place on record my thanks to the SFA, SPFL and UEFA for their understanding and support through this period.
“With the Copland Road stand now complete, we are extremely proud of the work undertaken to upgrade and improve the facilities for our disabled supporters. They truly are now some of the best facilities in Europe and are evidence of the Board’s commitment to continue to modernise and improve Ibrox and the wider campus.”
£17 million quid!I find myself wondering how early in their journey to extinction the now defunct Glasgow rangers achieved a £17m loss?
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Springbank
29-10-2024, 04:53 PM
One assumes a good chunk of the £17m arose from lost causes in court settlements
HoboHarry
29-10-2024, 05:02 PM
Some of the best facilities in Europe says John Gilligan whilst the BBC are claiming it stinks to high heaven - "Rangers' Ibrox Stadium has been rated the worst-smelling stadium in the Scottish Premiership after it topped the charts for the highest number of odour-related complaints from visitors on TripAdvisor, more than double Celtic Park in second place" .
To be fair, any stadium starting with tens of thousands of Sevco fans in it is bound to reek a bit.....
HoboHarry
29-10-2024, 05:03 PM
So what is their total current debt accumulated over the 12 years they've been in existence? Need CWG here to give some detail...
JohnM1875
29-10-2024, 05:11 PM
So what is their total current debt accumulated over the 12 years they've been in existence? Need CWG here to give some detail...
Apparently;
'The Rangers' losses by the season:
2012-13 - £14m
2013-14 - £8.1m
2014-15 - £7.5m
2015-16 - £3.3m
2016-17 - £6.7m
2017-18 - £14.3m
2018-19 - £11.3m
2019-20 - £15.9m
2020-21 - £23.5m
2021-22 - £0.9m
2022-23 - £4.14m
2023-24 - £17.17m'
So £126.81 million. Absolutely insane for a 12 year old club.
Billy Whizz
29-10-2024, 05:12 PM
So what is their total current debt accumulated over the 12 years they've been in existence? Need CWG here to give some detail...
£126m since 2012, source poster on twitter
Ozyhibby
29-10-2024, 05:14 PM
Apparently;
'The Rangers' losses by the season:
2012-13 - £14m
2013-14 - £8.1m
2014-15 - £7.5m
2015-16 - £3.3m
2016-17 - £6.7m
2017-18 - £14.3m
2018-19 - £11.3m
2019-20 - £15.9m
2020-21 - £23.5m
2021-22 - £0.9m
2022-23 - £4.14m
2023-24 - £17.17m'
So £126.81 million. Absolutely insane for a 12 year old club.
Does it say what their current debt is though on their balance sheet?
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Ozyhibby
29-10-2024, 05:19 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241029/d8145153de76370ef50bca8471fff9a4.png
I see they have changed from the ‘most’ successful to ‘one of’ in anticipation of Celtic pulling ahead of them this season.[emoji23]
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Keith_M
29-10-2024, 05:19 PM
In June last year, Barcelona had combined 'liabilities' (i.e. debts) of €2.7bn.
Compared to that, The Rangers' debts are at diddy-club level.
Bishop Hibee
29-10-2024, 05:40 PM
£126m since 2012, source poster on twitter
That’s some hit their board have taken in the pocket trying to keep up with Celtc.
HoboHarry
29-10-2024, 05:41 PM
that’s some hit their board have taken in the pocket trying (and failing utterly) to keep up with celtc.
ftfy
ancient hibee
29-10-2024, 05:49 PM
Apparently;
'The Rangers' losses by the season:
2012-13 - £14m
2013-14 - £8.1m
2014-15 - £7.5m
2015-16 - £3.3m
2016-17 - £6.7m
2017-18 - £14.3m
2018-19 - £11.3m
2019-20 - £15.9m
2020-21 - £23.5m
2021-22 - £0.9m
2022-23 - £4.14m
2023-24 - £17.17m'
So £126.81 million. Absolutely insane for a 12 year old club.szxx
Why does the Record report refer to the year ended June 2023 when it’s clearly 2024?
Lendo
29-10-2024, 06:14 PM
Over on FollowFollow plenty of them are delighted at this great set of accounts. “Just need to sell one player like Butland for £17m and it’s all good”.
Annual results posted, from the DR;
"Rangers have announced an operating loss of £17.2million in the past financial year.
The Ibrox club released the annual report and accompanying financial statement for the year ended 30 June 2023 which is in stark contrast to last year’s. Twelve months ago the club posted a slim operating profit of £252,000 but it’s a sorrier sight now with cash being haemorrhaged.
The figures do show record core revenue is up by £5m to £88.3m. But total operating expenses – or costs – remain high at £110m. Staff costs account for £61m, down by £3m on last year. The outlay of their short term Hampden tenancy was also listed with Rangers writing the Scottish Football Association a cheque for £67,000.
The Ibrox club counted the cost of Michael Beale's summer spending spree last season as well as paying off the Englishman who was replaced by Philippe Clement. The club missed out on the Champions League last season, losing to PSV Eindhoven in the qualifiers but reached the last-16 of the Europa League where they lost to Benfica.
The Light Blues lifted the League Cup but blew two more trophy chances as they surrendered their advantage over Celtic in the Scottish Premiership run-in and lost the Scottish Cup final to their fierce rivals.
Crucially, the club say they are "free of any litigation claims for first time in over a decade following settlements" and interim chairman John Gilligan said: “Undoubtedly, it has been a challenging period for the football club with significant change occurring both on and off the park throughout both season 2023/24 and over the summer months.
"As part of these changes John Bennett stepped away from his role as Chairman in order to focus on his health. John remains a supportive shareholder and investor in the club and I’d like to place on record my thanks for his leadership both as Chairman and a Director over the past nine years. We look forward to welcoming you back to Ibrox.
“In addition, we have had a number of changes in senior leadership positions with the CEO, James Bisgrove, departing to join Al-Qadsiah in the Saudi Premier League and Creag Robertson recently departing as our Director of Football Operations. We wish both James and Creag all the best in their future careers and thank them for their efforts with the football club.
“Whilst we continue our search for the outstanding candidate for the CEO position, we retain a strong executive team within the football club led by our Chief Financial Officer, James Taylor, Chief Commercial Officer, Karim Virani and our Director of Football Recruitment, Nils Koppen. All three were recruited in the period under review, and, as you can see from our underlying performance, there have been significant steps made in a short period of time in delivering against our strategic objectives.
“The challenges encountered with the redevelopment of the Copland Road stand have been well documented, and as a Board we once again apologise to our supporters for the inconvenience caused by the delays in returning to our home. The support received at Hampden was outstanding and epitomises the link that our great club has with our supporters. I’d also like to once again place on record my thanks to the SFA, SPFL and UEFA for their understanding and support through this period.
“With the Copland Road stand now complete, we are extremely proud of the work undertaken to upgrade and improve the facilities for our disabled supporters. They truly are now some of the best facilities in Europe and are evidence of the Board’s commitment to continue to modernise and improve Ibrox and the wider campus.”
£17 million quid!
When does rangers tax year end?
They’ve included the fee for using hampden, which was less than 2 months ago, normally you’d expect that to be in this year’s accounts wouldn’t you?
HoboHarry
29-10-2024, 06:19 PM
Over on FollowFollow plenty of them are delighted at this great set of accounts. “Just need to sell one player like Butland for £17m and it’s all good”.
I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that he has a release clause and it'll be a lot less than 17 million lol.
Billy Whizz
29-10-2024, 06:24 PM
When does rangers tax year end?
They’ve included the fee for using hampden, which was less than 2 months ago, normally you’d expect that to be in this year’s accounts wouldn’t you?
Think it’s the 30th June? Maybe had to make a payment in June, but you’d think a bigger hit will be in this years accounts
Think it’s the 30th June? Maybe had to make a payment in June, but you’d think a bigger hit will be in this years accounts
Yeah good shout, maybe an advance payment
Winston Ingram
29-10-2024, 06:32 PM
I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that he has a release clause and it'll be a lot less than 17 million lol.
He’s no worth that and I can’t see any Premier League club coming in for him never mind pay that money.
Billy Whizz
29-10-2024, 06:40 PM
Yeah good shout, maybe an advance payment
They helped pay for the newly laid turf at Hampden, to grow quicker
Maybe it was for that
Fratelli
29-10-2024, 07:11 PM
A £17.2m loss despite:
- record core revenue
- record total income
- record commercial revenue.
Horrific set of figures…pleasing!
Real Emerald
29-10-2024, 07:25 PM
It also highlights the different world Scottish football is in. I’m sure on one of the football programmes I watched on Saturday they mentioned Brighton had spent £200m on players last year. Its just mental TBH.
JohnM1875
29-10-2024, 07:28 PM
It also highlights the different world Scottish football is in. I’m sure on one of the football programmes I watched on Saturday they mentioned Brighton had spent £200m on players last year. Its just mental TBH.
Most of Europe are in a different world compared to the English Premier League when it comes to spending.
hibsforeurope
30-10-2024, 07:50 AM
A £17.2m loss despite:
- record core revenue
- record total income
- record commercial revenue.
Horrific set of figures…pleasing!
It's a(nother) pleasing loss for the Huns but caveats listed sit fairly close to home too.
where'stheslope
30-10-2024, 08:53 AM
Getting to the stage when they won't be able to sack the manager as they would have to pay him off and take on another££££££££!!!!!
gbhibby
30-10-2024, 09:11 AM
https://images.app.goo.gl/bmXMYYt8n7QSfdbu6
They are loosing over £1m per month. Wonder if the Easdale brothers will be back on the scene soon.
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Coco Bryce
30-10-2024, 09:20 AM
As funny as it is. We are not really in a that fit a state to laugh at another teams accounts.
We're also burning money.
Kensell said the next set will be better but who would believe a word that leaves his mouth.
Donegal Hibby
30-10-2024, 12:23 PM
https://x.com/BabaGol_/status/1849287868440625520
Drink driving Morelos has hit a motorcyclist and left them in a critical condition. One of the worst human-beings to have ever graced Scottish football.
Rumours now that his lawyers are trying to get him off with drink driving as they are not happy about the test …
He’s also came out on twitter apparently stating he was involved in an unfortunate accident while on his way to training.
Getting to the stage when they won't be able to sack the manager as they would have to pay him off and take on another££££££££!!!!!
Apparently still paying Beale AND von bronkhorst :tee hee:
CyberSauzee
30-10-2024, 02:05 PM
Just put the accounts into chat gpt, here's the summary:
While the club has shown positive revenue growth and continues to attract financing, its substantial losses, high operating costs, and increased reliance on debt are concerning. The decline in profitability from player registrations and the growing negative balance in retained earnings further suggest a need for strategic realignment, possibly by controlling costs or revisiting the club’s player investment strategy. To ensure long-term financial stability, the club may need to adopt stricter cost controls, enhance operational efficiency, and reconsider its financing approach to avoid future liquidity issues.
CyberSauzee
30-10-2024, 02:11 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241029/d8145153de76370ef50bca8471fff9a4.png
I see they have changed from the ‘most’ successful to ‘one of’ in anticipation of Celtic pulling ahead of them this season.[emoji23]
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Amazing how you can be that successful when the accounts say you've only been going since 2012. Top of page 29
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Bostonhibby
30-10-2024, 02:21 PM
Amazing how you can be that successful when the accounts say you've only been going since 2012. Top of page 29
28224
Most successful 12 year old club that used to be called Sevco but is now called the Rangers International, in the world?
I don't think there's another one in the world with that name history, or the reasons for it.
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Moulin Yarns
30-10-2024, 02:53 PM
Most successful 12 year old club that used to be called Sevco but is now called the Rangers International, in the world?
I don't think there's another one in the world with that name history, or the reasons for it.
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That's as a result of tens of thousands of people who suddenly didn't have a team to support finding solace in a new team being formed with very similar names, colours, 'history', stadium and, most crucially, bigotry, to attach themselves to.
Bostonhibby
30-10-2024, 02:57 PM
That's as a result of tens of thousands of people who suddenly didn't have a team to support finding solace in a new team being formed with very similar names, colours, 'history', stadium and, most crucially, bigotry, to attach themselves to.Yep, if there wasn't some reincarnation of the now defunct Glasgow rangers for them to spew their nonsense about they'd probably have to extend the marching season to give them something to do!
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JimBHibees
30-10-2024, 03:07 PM
Rumours now that his lawyers are trying to get him off with drink driving as they are not happy about the test …
He’s also came out on twitter apparently stating he was involved in an unfortunate accident while on his way to training.
Amazing what money can do
Scottie
30-10-2024, 09:29 PM
Kris Boyd having a meltdown on Sky sports after the game tonight at Aberdeen. Chris Sutton loving it. Comedy gold :faf:
Smartie
30-10-2024, 09:32 PM
Kris Boyd having a meltdown on Sky sports after the game tonight at Aberdeen. Chris Sutton loving it. Comedy gold :faf:
Genuinely brilliant viewing.
Should be on the “best tv” thread as we get a fresh dose of it every week at the moment.
Bostonhibby
30-10-2024, 09:35 PM
Kris Boyd having a meltdown on Sky sports after the game tonight at Aberdeen. Chris Sutton loving it. Comedy gold :faf:Nae wonder, Brother Beaton going off piste and not engineering a win.
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cabbageandribs1875
24-12-2024, 03:38 PM
Statement FC not happy, again
Rangers 'express concern' after Hampden VAR officials are reinstated - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c05p0erey1ro)
Rangers say they have "contacted the Scottish Football Association to express serious concerns and ask several questions" after the two Video Assistant Referees (VAR) at the League Cup final were reinstated for December fixtures.
PatHead
24-12-2024, 03:40 PM
Everyone hates us, we don't care but we really do.
Bostonhibby
24-12-2024, 03:44 PM
Statement FC not happy, again
Rangers 'express concern' after Hampden VAR officials are reinstated - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c05p0erey1ro)
Rangers say they have "contacted the Scottish Football Association to express serious concerns and ask several questions" after the two Video Assistant Referees (VAR) at the League Cup final were reinstated for December fixtures.The loss of another couple of years where their opponents never got a penalty is obviously something they hadn't planned for.
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HoboHarry
24-12-2024, 03:50 PM
Statement FC not happy, again
Rangers 'express concern' after Hampden VAR officials are reinstated - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c05p0erey1ro)
Rangers say they have "contacted the Scottish Football Association to express serious concerns and ask several questions" after the two Video Assistant Referees (VAR) at the League Cup final were reinstated for December fixtures.
The SFA will apologize instead of telling them to get f****d like they should.
Bridge hibs
24-12-2024, 04:25 PM
Statement FC not happy, again
Rangers 'express concern' after Hampden VAR officials are reinstated - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c05p0erey1ro)
Rangers say they have "contacted the Scottish Football Association to express serious concerns and ask several questions" after the two Video Assistant Referees (VAR) at the League Cup final were reinstated for December fixtures.28371
gbhibby
24-12-2024, 04:28 PM
Statement FC not happy, again
Rangers 'express concern' after Hampden VAR officials are reinstated - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c05p0erey1ro)
Rangers say they have "contacted the Scottish Football Association to express serious concerns and ask several questions" after the two Video Assistant Referees (VAR) at the League Cup final were reinstated for December fixtures.https://images.app.goo.gl/2ZE136vH2t2kHoyW6
Sums them up
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Keith_M
24-12-2024, 04:31 PM
"No one likes us,
...it's no fair!"
HoboHarry
24-12-2024, 04:43 PM
Hasn't taken their new CEO Patrick Stewart very long to get with the programme. As much of a space cadet as his namesake apparently.
Bostonhibby
24-12-2024, 04:46 PM
Hasn't taken their new CEO Patrick Stewart very long to get with the programme. As much of a space cadet as his namesake apparently.They're bigger whingers than the now defunct Glasgow rangers, at least they quietly put themselves into liquidation and whimpered off into history.
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It was a strange var decision. They only have to put up with one.
How many weird var decisions have gone against us?
HUTCHYHIBBY
24-12-2024, 04:55 PM
It was a strange var decision. They only have to put up with one.
How many weird var decisions have gone against us?
VAR too many.
VAR too many.
Var var too many
HoboHarry
24-12-2024, 05:41 PM
VAR too many.
OK that's it, VAR red card review for you for out of control punnery......
Statement FC not happy, again
Rangers 'express concern' after Hampden VAR officials are reinstated - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c05p0erey1ro)
Rangers say they have "contacted the Scottish Football Association to express serious concerns and ask several questions" after the two Video Assistant Referees (VAR) at the League Cup final were reinstated for December fixtures.
This is all about putting pressure on refs for future fixtures so they give even more decisions than usual in their favour. When Rangers ramp up the heat like this, officials get abuse when they step outside their front door and their kids get it in school. The SFA should be fining them but will bottle it as usual.
Argylehibby
24-12-2024, 10:34 PM
This is all about putting pressure on refs for future fixtures so they give even more decisions than usual in their favour. When Rangers ramp up the heat like this, officials get abuse when they step outside their front door and their kids get it in school. The SFA should be fining them but will bottle it as usual.
:agree: 100% the real reason that Rangers make a song and dance when they get a bad decision against them is to intimidate refs and VARS to ensure they get more dodgy decisions in their favour.
Ozyhibby
25-12-2024, 07:30 AM
It was a strange var decision. They only have to put up with one.
How many weird var decisions have gone against us?
I actually thought the decision was correct.
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Victor
25-12-2024, 08:47 AM
I actually thought the decision was correct.
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Agree. If we are talking about the same incident, it was never a penalty. The initial foul was outside the box. Gollum is only trying to curry favour with the Orcs.
Keith_M
25-12-2024, 08:57 AM
Hasn't taken their new CEO Patrick Stewart very long to get with the programme. As much of a space cadet as his namesake apparently.
This is all about putting pressure on refs for future fixtures so they give even more decisions than usual in their favour. When Rangers ramp up the heat like this, officials get abuse when they step outside their front door and their kids get it in school. The SFA should be fining them but will bottle it as usual.
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A Hi-Bee
25-12-2024, 10:21 AM
Agree. If we are talking about the same incident, it was never a penalty. The initial foul was outside the box. Gollum is only trying to curry favour with the Orcs.
Never a pen in a thousand hun years.
:thumbsup:
Ozyhibby
25-12-2024, 10:23 AM
Agree. If we are talking about the same incident, it was never a penalty. The initial foul was outside the box. Gollum is only trying to curry favour with the Orcs.
He starts holding his shirt before he puts his foot on the line as well.
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matty_f
25-12-2024, 10:45 AM
He starts holding his shirt before he puts his foot on the line as well.
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If the foul continues into the box it’s a penalty.
Bostonhibby
25-12-2024, 10:58 AM
If the foul continues into the box it’s a penalty.Aye, but he was definitely going to let go before then. Everyone thunkit.
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matty_f
25-12-2024, 12:07 PM
Aye, but he was definitely going to let go before then. Everyone thunkit.
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If anything, I would have said the Rangers player’s shirt was pulling the defender’s arm and it was a foul the other way.
Bostonhibby
25-12-2024, 12:10 PM
If anything, I would have said the Rangers player’s shirt was pulling the defender’s arm and it was a foul the other way.Huns gonna be huns.
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darwenhibby
25-12-2024, 11:15 PM
If the foul continues into the box it’s a penalty.
Surely would it no be when the foul starts not when it ends Matty??
HoboHarry
25-12-2024, 11:52 PM
Surely would it no be when the foul starts not when it ends Matty??
That's how it used to be but that was changed a few years back.
Donegal Hibby
26-12-2024, 12:12 AM
That's how it used to be but that was changed a few years back.
If it happens to us when attacking we get a free kick though if it’s them on the attack they get a penalty depending on how the ref / Var see it … possibly 🤔
Chorley Hibee
26-12-2024, 07:29 AM
Funnily enough, they never came out with a crayon etched statement when Aberdeen never got a penalty for the exact same situation at Ibrox last year.
Only difference was Beaton didn't even give a foul, he awarded a corner.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/duk-penalty-snub-vs-rangers-26868498
StirlingHibee
26-12-2024, 08:09 AM
If the foul continues into the box it’s a penalty.
Agree - as much as it might be painful to admit. Fifa rules as follows:
If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area but continues holding inside the penalty area, the referee shall award a penalty kick.
Bostonhibby
26-12-2024, 08:46 AM
If the foul continues into the box it’s a penalty.Following a pompously indignant statement from the Huns
Special sub section 1690:-
The Sevco VAR team shall have further discretion, where their team are involved, to apply an additional line (known as the Fat Blue Line) up to a further yard outside the 18 yard line to simplify their efforts to help Tavernier towards a record 100 penalties in a season.
Obviously this is in the interests of fans as a whole as it should speed up the VAR process.
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cubehindthegoal
26-12-2024, 02:20 PM
Nice to see Boyd so quiet on Sky Sports coverage at the end of the match. You could see his disappointment dripping from his face … even although his own Sevco weren’t even playing. Sums up the regular bias of pundit coverage in Scotland … and as the final word was given to an ex-Hearts player on the panel on Sky, saying all credit to Hibs, Boyd jumped in on the very last second of his words and smiled, “doesn’t happen very often though”. That says it all about Scottish TV commentators and pundits in Scotland.
Happy day for us though, suck it up shameless 😊 Hibs players and manager kicked ass today.
JohnM1875
26-12-2024, 02:21 PM
Nice to see Boyd so quiet on Sky Sports coverage at the end be of the match. You could see his disappointment dripping from his face … even although his own Sevco weren’t even playing. Sums up the regular bias of pundit coverage in Scotland … and as the final word was given to an ex-Hearts player on the panel on Sky, saying all credit to Hibs, Boyd jumped in on the very last second of his words and smiled, “doesn’t happen very often though”. That says it all about Scottish TV commentators and pundits in Scotland.
Happy day for us though, suck it up shameless 😊 Hibs players and manager kicked ass today.
Boyd was nothing but complimentary about Hibs today nah?
I actually think he's pretty spot on about most stuff non-old firm and like him.
cubehindthegoal
26-12-2024, 02:25 PM
Boyd was nothing but complimentary about Hibs today nah?
I actually think he's pretty spot on about most stuff non-old firm and like him.
So did you see and hear what I said above. If you defend such a clear bigot, then carry on, no need to share here. Boyd has shown his angry bias enough times I don’t need to repeat. Have you turned a blind eye to those times ? If so, why ?
Anyway .. time to celebrate, I’m sure you’ll agree. Hope you enjoy it mate, we are here 😊
Smartie
26-12-2024, 02:28 PM
Boyd was nothing but complimentary about Hibs today nah?
I actually think he's pretty spot on about most stuff non-old firm and like him.
I like him too.
Unless Rangers are involved.
Perfectly acceptable today.
CyberSauzee
26-12-2024, 09:20 PM
I was at the Enfield Town game this afternoon and was chatting to one of my mates who is a Spurs season ticket holder.
To give you some context, my mate has enough points to get all away tickets for Spurs. He missed one game two seasons ago because it was his missus birthday. He's seen over 60 north London derbies; he's been kettled in Milan and had to look for himself in Marseille. He knows his way around Europe and a ground or two as you can imagine.
So I asked him about the Spurs game at Ibrox (he did tell me he was staying in Edinburgh the night before) Anyway, he said talking to Huns supporters around central weegie was great, all very amicable. He said it all turned toxic once they got off at Govan and the police walked them to Castle Greyskull. His son was hit and cut by a bottle on his leg. Piss and other usual stuff thrown at them. He did say police were excellent at keeping them safe, but as we know through there it's a far easier ride for a non Fenian side.
But, what he had never experienced was the bigoted singing he heard. It was non stop about, well, we all know.
My mate said why do they do this? What can you say? Just tell people they're living in the 17th century and what they're going on about will die out generation to generation? He really couldn't believe why they kept going on about Catholics and wtf that had to to with football. He obviously knows about the ugly sisters, but he never had any notion it was so hateful.
So there you have it, someone who goes to about 80-90 matches a season all over Europe, and the worst place out of all of them - Ibrox.
Hibee87
27-12-2024, 11:11 AM
Someone might want to check up on them, beaten last night and now an article is out about how their beloved Queen detested the marches 😂
Carheenlea
27-12-2024, 05:03 PM
Queen Elizabeth II expressed her relief that Northern Ireland's "silly marching business" was quieter than expected when the then Irish ambassador to the UK visited in 2000, Irish government papers have revealed.
Ted Barrington, who met the late queen at a Buckingham Palace garden party on 25 July that year, said it was not the first time he heard "her dismissive views of the Orange marches".
Almost 25 years later, and after Elizabeth II's death, the report has now been cleared for release by the Department of Foreign Affairs and the National Archives of Ireland.
Mr Barrington said her comments "were similar to those she has made to me on previous occasions".
The ambassador's account is the only available description of what was said.
It was a private conversation and was not recorded.
There is a convention within the UK that one-on-one conversations with the monarch remain private, but that protocol was not followed by the Irish ambassador.
Reacting to what was said in the publication of the Irish state papers, a senior member of the Orange Order described it as a "throw away comment" with no context of the totality of the conversation.
Grand Secretary, the Rev Mervyn Gibson commented that "her late Majesty always acknowledged and thanked the institution for our proclamation of loyalty each year on 12th July".
"Let it be clear, four words from a 'private' conversation with no explanation, quoted by a foreign ambassador and open to interpretation will not diminish the affection the Orange Institution had for her late Majesty, nor will it affect the loyalty we have for the current King," he added.
Bostonhibby
27-12-2024, 05:09 PM
Queen Elizabeth II expressed her relief that Northern Ireland's "silly marching business" was quieter than expected when the then Irish ambassador to the UK visited in 2000, Irish government papers have revealed.
Ted Barrington, who met the late queen at a Buckingham Palace garden party on 25 July that year, said it was not the first time he heard "her dismissive views of the Orange marches".
Almost 25 years later, and after Elizabeth II's death, the report has now been cleared for release by the Department of Foreign Affairs and the National Archives of Ireland.
Mr Barrington said her comments "were similar to those she has made to me on previous occasions".
The ambassador's account is the only available description of what was said.
It was a private conversation and was not recorded.
There is a convention within the UK that one-on-one conversations with the monarch remain private, but that protocol was not followed by the Irish ambassador.
Reacting to what was said in the publication of the Irish state papers, a senior member of the Orange Order described it as a "throw away comment" with no context of the totality of the conversation.
Grand Secretary, the Rev Mervyn Gibson commented that "her late Majesty always acknowledged and thanked the institution for our proclamation of loyalty each year on 12th July".
"Let it be clear, four words from a 'private' conversation with no explanation, quoted by a foreign ambassador and open to interpretation will not diminish the affection the Orange Institution had for her late Majesty, nor will it affect the loyalty we have for the current King," he added.
Wonder if Charlie takes their combination of the Homepride Man & Dad's Army marching up a hill any more seriously?
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Keith_M
28-12-2024, 03:57 PM
Patrick's Ragin'
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Bishop Hibee
12-01-2025, 08:41 PM
Union Bears leave the ground on 55 minutes with members of the Rangers Shareholders Association. Some fans applaud whilst others boo. Outstanding seeing them fighting amongst themselves.
Ryan91
12-01-2025, 08:52 PM
Union Bears leave the ground on 55 minutes with members of the Rangers Shareholders Association. Some fans applaud whilst others boo. Outstanding seeing them fighting amongst themselves.
But I thought they didn't do walking away?
HIBS NUTS
12-01-2025, 09:05 PM
They are second in the league, doing well in Europe , just Beaton in extra time in a final.
and Have just beat Celtic 3-0.
What an absolute bunch of entitled losers.
Horrible people that don’t understand what being a proper supporter is like.
They are second in the league, doing well in Europe , just Beaton in extra time in a final.
and Have just beat Celtic 3-0.
What an absolute bunch of entitled losers.
Horrible people that don’t understand what being a proper supporter is like.A whole load of them aren't supporters, they go to Rangers games for the gloat. When gloating is denied them they get ugly(er) quick.
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DH1875
13-01-2025, 07:19 AM
Union Bears leave the ground on 55 minutes with members of the Rangers Shareholders Association. Some fans applaud whilst others boo. Outstanding seeing them fighting amongst themselves.
Majority of the stadium boo'd the ub when they were leaving which caused actually fist fights. Rangers fans punching rangers fans, always pleasing.
Bostonhibby
13-01-2025, 07:24 AM
Majority of the stadium boo'd the ub when they were leaving which caused actually fist fights. Rangers fans punching rangers fans, always pleasing.Hun on hun violence, all because they want more than they can currently afford.
I get they are used to overspending and not paying debts in an attempt to enforce their imaginary sectarian superiority over the other erse cheek, but its pleasing nevertheless.
Maybe it's those Scottish cup supporters or West of Scotland fc thugs that assaulted the exuberant Hibs fans who are responsible here?
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lapsedhibee
13-01-2025, 08:35 AM
Wonder if Charlie takes their combination of the Homepride Man & Dad's Army marching up a hill any more seriously?
:greengrin
blackpoolhibs
13-01-2025, 08:43 AM
Is there any better site than an ugly hun punching another ugly hun?:dunno:
Bostonhibby
13-01-2025, 08:49 AM
Is there any better site than an ugly hun punching another ugly hun?:dunno:There should be no place in a modern society for domestic violence, but the late 17th century seems to be anything goes.
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Juice-Terry
13-01-2025, 08:59 AM
By the way, can anyone point me in the direction of those articles/reports that mentioned 'Scottish cup supporters' or 'West of Scotland fans'...?
Cheers.
21.05.2016
13-01-2025, 09:00 AM
The in fighting amongst them is so so pleasing to see.
Horrible club with the most vile fans. May their misery continue.
lapsedhibee
13-01-2025, 09:31 AM
By the way, can anyone point me in the direction of those articles/reports that mentioned 'Scottish cup supporters' or 'West of Scotland fans'...?
Cheers.
Sally Magnusson read it out on live TV.
tamig
13-01-2025, 10:44 AM
By the way, can anyone point me in the direction of those articles/reports that mentioned 'Scottish cup supporters' or 'West of Scotland fans'...?
Cheers.
They were on the BBC News sites back at the time but possibly no longer available. There were links on here at the time so probably best trying the search function here to see what it brings up. I can assure you it happened though. It was avoidance of the word Rangers in relation to any post-match on-pitch shenanigans at all costs and ended up farcical.
Bostonhibby
13-01-2025, 10:47 AM
They were on the BBC News sites back at the time but possibly no longer available. There were links on here at the time so probably best trying the search function here to see what it brings up. I can assure you it happened though. It was avoidance of the word Rangers in relation to any post-match on-pitch shenanigans at all costs and ended up farcical.Definitely was, will be on this very thread probably
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Juice-Terry
13-01-2025, 11:21 AM
They were on the BBC News sites back at the time but possibly no longer available. There were links on here at the time so probably best trying the search function here to see what it brings up. I can assure you it happened though. It was avoidance of the word Rangers in relation to any post-match on-pitch shenanigans at all costs and ended up farcical.
Yes, I remember it clearly. Just thought it would be fun to revisit.
Bostonhibby
13-01-2025, 11:42 AM
Yes, I remember it clearly. Just thought it would be fun to revisit.Take a look at Rangers Scarf Man thread.
Daily Record doing contortions to avoid saying if it looks like a hun and smells like a hun it's probably a hun
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Renton1875
13-01-2025, 12:27 PM
Union Bears leave the ground on 55 minutes with members of the Rangers Shareholders Association. Some fans applaud whilst others boo. Outstanding seeing them fighting amongst themselves.
They can't even get that right, should have been the first minute.
PatHead
13-01-2025, 12:30 PM
They have previous.
There was a planned walkout on the day Stevenson scored at Ibrox.
cabbageandribs1875
13-01-2025, 12:56 PM
page 1490
can we get this up to 1690 :giruy2: :greengrin
hopefully talking about The The The Rangers by then
BILLYHIBS
13-01-2025, 01:00 PM
They have previous.
There was a planned walkout on the day Stevenson scored at Ibrox.
https://i.ibb.co/PZQzn1v/IMG-1487.png (https://ibb.co/xSH80zt)
JimBHibees
14-01-2025, 10:33 AM
Quite an interesting discussion re Rangers liquidation years. Graeme Spiers and Alex Thomson c4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtdeWAcKxhs
CentreLine
04-02-2025, 02:26 PM
Herald Newspaper headline -
“Man charged in connection with with assault at Ibrox during Rangers vs Celtic clash”
Some amount of mental gymnastics to avoid saying rangers fan. 😂
The article does later mention that no “away fans” were at the game. 🤔
The phone-in on Clyde 1's Superscoreboard at 6 should be entertaining.
https://hellorayo.co.uk/clyde/
HarpOnHibee
10-02-2025, 04:39 PM
The phone-in on Clyde 1's Superscoreboard at 6 should be entertaining.
https://hellorayo.co.uk/clyde/
This one doesn't require a login - https://radioplayer.planetradio.co.uk/cl1
HarpOnHibee
10-02-2025, 05:07 PM
Marvin Bartley on to stir the pot. :greengrin
This one doesn't require a login - https://radioplayer.planetradio.co.uk/cl1
Thanks. Youtube is good too as you can wind it back if you miss the start and then catch up by skipping the ad breaks.
https://www.youtube.com/live/QUSZGBLBDk4?si=xXvHTqWG_gM_4Pv_
JohnM1875
10-02-2025, 05:30 PM
Hugh Keevins suggesting Clement is on £50,000 a week?! What the actual ****?
Keith_M
10-02-2025, 05:38 PM
Hugh Keevins suggesting Clement is on £50,000 a week?! What the actual ****?
https://onefootball.com/fr/news/rangers-10m-salary-for-manager-candidate-philippe-clement-38386820
"So let’s not act like £2.5M would be a ‘disgrace’ of a wage for a manager – if Clement is the right man for the job, it’ll be a bargain."
Bostonhibby
10-02-2025, 05:39 PM
Hugh Keevins suggesting Clement is on £50,000 a week?! What the actual ****?Worth every penny, surely some sort of a rise is overdue.
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HoboHarry
10-02-2025, 05:48 PM
Hugh Keevins suggesting Clement is on £50,000 a week?! What the actual ****?
He was given a new contract not too long ago so thats on their board, just another terrible financial decision that's backfired but they have previous for that. Phil Mac has been saying for a while that the financial cost for firing Clement is similar to what it was for Van Bronckhorst. No idea how accurate his info is but typically he's usually close in the long run.
Billy Whizz
10-02-2025, 05:53 PM
Worth every penny, surely some sort of a rise is overdue.
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He’s just brought in a new assistant on a 3 year deal as well
Bostonhibby
10-02-2025, 05:55 PM
He’s just brought in a new assistant on a 3 year deal as wellI'd give them both EBT's, apparently they're a good thing down hunbox way.
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Springbank
14-02-2025, 11:06 AM
Happy Administration Day to all who celebrate
Walking Away, It's The Rangers Way
JeMeSouviens
14-02-2025, 11:31 AM
Ah, the memories...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScottishFootball/comments/1ip5go7/in_honour_of_administration_day_it_is_my_great/
Bostonhibby
14-02-2025, 11:45 AM
Thinking we could do with a burst of wee wullie blue nose playing with his organ to remind us how they don't do walking away even though that's what they did to themselves, just to mark the day. Even though he was on this thread I cant find him here or on the interweb.[emoji45]
Found him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6i9QhO5rzbg
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Scorrie
14-02-2025, 12:00 PM
Thinking we could do with a burst of wee wullie blue nose playing with his organ to remind us how they don't do walking away even though that's what they did to themselves, just to mark the day. Even though he was on this thread I cant find him here or on the interweb.[emoji45]
Found him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6i9QhO5rzbg
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That’s priceless! Using his kids’ or grandkids’ wee toy keyboard 😂
Fifeshirehibs
14-02-2025, 10:41 PM
Brilliant, had forgotten about that clown, so The Real Queens team knocked the Queens X1 out the cup last week. If you suffered from Blue Nose condition surely you wouldn't advertise you had a wee willie an aw !
tamig
15-02-2025, 09:08 AM
Some great versions of this but I love this remix. Great memories -
https://youtu.be/2J1O0tfxAK4?si=1wk2XjQlMq9T46M7
Bostonhibby
15-02-2025, 09:18 AM
Some great versions of this but I love this remix. Great memories -
https://youtu.be/2J1O0tfxAK4?si=1wk2XjQlMq9T46M7Well, that's convinced me, open it must stay.
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Green Reaper
15-02-2025, 09:31 AM
Thinking we could do with a burst of wee wullie blue nose playing with his organ to remind us how they don't do walking away even though that's what they did to themselves, just to mark the day. Even though he was on this thread I cant find him here or on the interweb.[emoji45]
Found him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6i9QhO5rzbg
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That is hilarious 😂
Only problem is that I've now got that stupid tune stuck in my head! 😡
Bostonhibby
15-02-2025, 09:43 AM
That is hilarious [emoji23]
Only problem is that I've now got that stupid tune stuck in my head! [emoji35]It don't do walking away[emoji16]
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PatHead
15-02-2025, 08:28 PM
The Queens Park result today makes last week's score even funnier.
Hibernia&Alba
15-02-2025, 10:23 PM
The Queens Park result today makes last week's score even funnier.
:agree:
:lolrangers:
:giruy2:
JohnM1875
19-02-2025, 01:41 PM
See the huns are at the issuing a **** tonne of shares stage of their ‘we’re back’ cycle.
Joke of a club.
HoboHarry
19-02-2025, 02:33 PM
See the huns are at the issuing a **** tonne of shares stage of their ‘we’re back’ cycle.
Joke of a club.
I don't fully understand the FSR regulations but I'm pretty sure that Sevco were on a watchlist a couple of years back for not living within their means and part of that was their sustainability was based on football income and not being propped up by share issues or director loans. Someone might tell me where I'm wrong but my guess is that they are raising funds to keep the lights on or trying to raise enough to get Clement out the door. I will eat my kilt if Sevco now magically have a decent transfer kitty to spend.
HoboHarry
19-02-2025, 02:43 PM
For any Sevco fan who can both read and comprehend, this is as clear an admission that they had better get used to being second to Celtic for a long time to come as they are likely to see.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c20l7yn4j8go
JeMeSouviens
19-02-2025, 02:54 PM
I don't fully understand the FSR regulations but I'm pretty sure that Sevco were on a watchlist a couple of years back for not living within their means and part of that was their sustainability was based on football income and not being propped up by share issues or director loans. Someone might tell me where I'm wrong but my guess is that they are raising funds to keep the lights on or trying to raise enough to get Clement out the door. I will eat my kilt if Sevco now magically have a decent transfer kitty to spend.
Essentially there are no FSR regulations for Scottish football. There are for UEFA but I think it's the SFA who make the judgment on UEFA's behalf so you can see how that might go well for Sevco.
I imagine they'll want to bin him around ST renewal time.
LunasBoots
19-02-2025, 10:13 PM
See the huns are at the issuing a **** tonne of shares stage of their ‘we’re back’ cycle.
Joke of a club.
And media freinds touting major takeovers again 😂
HoboHarry
19-02-2025, 10:20 PM
And media freinds touting major takeovers again 😂
You'd almost think that season tickets were about to go on sale again :greengrin
gbhibby
19-02-2025, 10:47 PM
They need a cash injection of at least £100m to be in the same financial position as Celtic. Did David Murray not have a series of rights issues that he ended up having to underwrite himself.
Bostonhibby
20-02-2025, 06:54 AM
They need a cash injection of at least £100m to be in the same financial position as Celtic. Did David Murray not have a series of rights issues that he ended up having to underwrite himself.Daily record saying they're about to become part of the US led 49ers group.
Guess brand image isn't a concern for the yanks anymore.
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HFC93
20-02-2025, 07:28 AM
New name will be the Rangers 2012ers.
Hibs4185
20-02-2025, 07:32 AM
Can’t help but feel the timing of this story is very convenient.
Large share issues, manager in deep trouble, miles behind Celtic in and off the field……but here comes the American billionaires to make us super rich…..but first buy the shares you gullible hordes.
Although as I’m typing this, maybe the share issue is for the Americans?? Hope not
Gloucester Hibs
20-02-2025, 07:53 AM
Daily record saying they're about to become part of the US led 49ers group.
Guess brand image isn't a concern for the yanks anymore.
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Article by none other than Keith "Wealth off the Radar" Jackshun! :agree:
Hibernia&Alba
20-02-2025, 08:11 AM
Daily record saying they're about to become part of the US led 49ers group.
Guess brand image isn't a concern for the yanks anymore.
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Yes, it says talks are at an ‘advanced stage’. Time will tell if the takeover gets completed and what its consequences might be. They need to do something, in order to compete for the title, as their current financial state isn’t good at all.
I hope the deal promises to be superb for them…..then falls through. :cb
CropleyWasGod
20-02-2025, 08:23 AM
Can’t help but feel the timing of this story is very convenient.
Large share issues, manager in deep trouble, miles behind Celtic in and off the field……but here comes the American billionaires to make us super rich…..but first buy the shares you gullible hordes.
Although as I’m typing this, maybe the share issue is for the Americans?? Hope not
The shares have already been issued. £360k.
What's not clear is whether that's cash, or conversion of loans.
PatHead
20-02-2025, 08:25 AM
I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been US interest in a club that qualifies for Europe before now
Billy Whizz
20-02-2025, 08:27 AM
Surely they can’t buy Rangers, if they own Leeds
Centre Hawf
20-02-2025, 08:31 AM
Surely they can’t buy Rangers, if they own Leeds
It's either they're doing what we've done with BKFC or Rangers have a good idea that the rules will be changed for them. Both seem as likely as each other at this point in time.
CropleyWasGod
20-02-2025, 08:38 AM
It's either they're doing what we've done with BKFC or Rangers have a good idea that the rules will be changed for them. Both seem as likely as each other at this point in time.
In the Leeds situation, they started off with 15%.
In Rangers case, that would be enough to make them the largest shareholder, which is what the Record article says they are after.
greenginger
20-02-2025, 09:12 AM
I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been US interest in a club that qualifies for Europe before now
Back in their liquidation days there was some interest in buying the assets but I seem to recall threats being made by the True Blue fraternity that only owners that suited them would be allowed.
That might have cooled any moves from any sensible business investors.
Bostonhibby
20-02-2025, 09:15 AM
Yes, it says talks are at an ‘advanced stage’. Time will tell if the takeover gets completed and what its consequences might be. They need to do something, in order to compete for the title, as their current financial state isn’t good at all.
I hope the deal promises to be superb for them…..then falls through. :cbPretty sure the average hun will welcome Saint Francis's 49ers.
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Greenworld
20-02-2025, 09:31 AM
Surely they can’t buy Rangers, if they own LeedsIt's interesting, are times about to change on ownership in Scotland. I doubt the USA invasion will be stopped
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CentreLine
20-02-2025, 10:36 AM
Pretty sure the average hun will welcome Saint Francis's 49ers.
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Well they’ve already got a chairman called Paddy. It’s just another small step towards binning their sectarian nonsense… surely 🤭
Bostonhibby
20-02-2025, 10:47 AM
Well they’ve already got a chairman called Paddy. It’s just another small step towards binning their sectarian nonsense… surely [emoji2960]Tradishuns, very important to some, except the bit where they voluntarily put the now defunct Glasgow rangers into oblivion.
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DR usually crap “major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer”
“War chest” and “financial money men” and next no doubt🤣🤣🤣
Silversand
20-02-2025, 01:06 PM
In the Leeds situation, they started off with 15%.
In Rangers case, that would be enough to make them the largest shareholder, which is what the Record article says they are after.BBC article says
"The prospective owners would acquire more than 50% of the Rangers shares while taking on the debt"
BBC News - Rangers takeover involving 49ers could be completed by June
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cjw2dvy2y23o
Which if true, presumably paves the way for a Black Knights takeover of Hibs?
CropleyWasGod
20-02-2025, 01:12 PM
BBC article says
"The prospective owners would acquire more than 50% of the Rangers shares while taking on the debt"
BBC News - Rangers takeover involving 49ers could be completed by June
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cjw2dvy2y23o
Which if true, presumably paves the way for a Black Knights takeover of Hibs?
Cheers for that.
A bit more detail than the DR piece, and probably more reliable.
Alex Trager
20-02-2025, 01:25 PM
BBC article says
"The prospective owners would acquire more than 50% of the Rangers shares while taking on the debt"
BBC News - Rangers takeover involving 49ers could be completed by June
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cjw2dvy2y23o
Which if true, presumably paves the way for a Black Knights takeover of Hibs?
Would that be the SFA changing the rules to suit Rangers?
Dod we get a rule change for our investment?
If not, it seems mental to me they’d openly change the rules for the huns.
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