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Lendo
24-01-2022, 12:33 PM
“Everyone Anyone”

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/rangers-fan-in-tears-after-22846537?fbclid=IwAR2jR1Y_RAs***-mWSI2sXc-oa0pIoWKNiKIFKTTVmWhpMC1WvhcEVyXnA0

The Follow Follow thread on it is a disgrace.

Mick O'Rourke
24-01-2022, 01:08 PM
“Everyone Anyone”

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/rangers-fan-in-tears-after-22846537?fbclid=IwAR2jR1Y_RAs***-mWSI2sXc-oa0pIoWKNiKIFKTTVmWhpMC1WvhcEVyXnA0


I recently saw a utube clip of the Asian rAngers fan known as Abdul.
He himself gets abuse from some other zombies.
But he didnt help himself when he joined in with them singing ....i would rather be a p*k*,than a tim.
They just laughed at him and told him, in not polite terms,where to go.

I am 70 this week and all my adult life i have seen this institution ignore calls for real change.
They thrive on their bigotry .They even sell the bigotry in the form of colourful merchandise
They and their followers have such an awful grip on some towns and communities in Scotland with orange halls/rangers clubs dominating places
The rest of us see it every July/August
And end up paying for the clean up. Remember George Square last year .Disgrace

I hoped our new Parliament in time would have got to grips with these hateful parades every Summer
But they are to feart ,Churches calling them out would be futile .
They aint religious .Just anti Catholic and anti any number of ethnic minorities .(
Except the ones on the park wearing blue !!)

No one likes us ,we dont care .....as the song goes.


https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/insight-has-scottish-politics-given-orange-order-boost-1445544

CentreLine
24-01-2022, 04:43 PM
“Everyone Anyone”

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/rangers-fan-in-tears-after-22846537?fbclid=IwAR2jR1Y_RAs***-mWSI2sXc-oa0pIoWKNiKIFKTTVmWhpMC1WvhcEVyXnA0

Sad reaction for the guy who should be able to go about his daily routine without prejudice. I am a little surprised he has taken so much to the rangers, given their record of prejudice against one section of society. Their behaviour may not be as deep rooted generally in society but definitely sectarian and hard to argue it’s not racist. No surprise this poor man has experienced awful racism there. Very glad he left unscathed as it sounds like he was less than welcome in the bar he went to. Just awful in society.

gbhibby
24-02-2022, 08:07 AM
Notice they have issued 4 million new shares at 25p each. Their funding gap was £7m but they have received £12m for Patterson and £4m compensation for SG and his staff. Is there still issues at that club?

CropleyWasGod
24-02-2022, 08:20 AM
Notice they have issued 4 million new shares at 25p each. Their funding gap was £7m but they have received £12m for Patterson and £4m compensation for SG and his staff. Is there still issues at that club?

Is this new money, or conversion of loans to shares?

I suspect that they had budgeted for the Patterson money in the £7m figure, but not the Gerrard money.

gbhibby
24-02-2022, 08:52 AM
Is this new money, or conversion of loans to shares?

I suspect that they had budgeted for the Patterson money in the £7m figure, but not the Gerrard money.
Not sure Crops but expect it to be loan to shares.
Still think they have financial issues, time will tell though.

Smartie
24-02-2022, 09:49 AM
I've heard that they owe Mike Ashley a settlement of £11m - which might influence things (if true).

gbhibby
24-02-2022, 09:56 AM
I've heard that they owe Mike Ashley a settlement of £11m - which might influence things (if true).

Ah ha the plot thickens. If true they are almost back to square one. I believe since Newco they have made losses of £100m. They need the automatic Champions league place then.

jacomo
24-02-2022, 10:43 AM
I recently saw a utube clip of the Asian rAngers fan known as Abdul.
He himself gets abuse from some other zombies.
But he didnt help himself when he joined in with them singing ....i would rather be a p*k*,than a tim.
They just laughed at him and told him, in not polite terms,where to go.

I am 70 this week and all my adult life i have seen this institution ignore calls for real change.
They thrive on their bigotry .They even sell the bigotry in the form of colourful merchandise
They and their followers have such an awful grip on some towns and communities in Scotland with orange halls/rangers clubs dominating places
The rest of us see it every July/August
And end up paying for the clean up. Remember George Square last year .Disgrace

I hoped our new Parliament in time would have got to grips with these hateful parades every Summer
But they are to feart ,Churches calling them out would be futile .
They aint religious .Just anti Catholic and anti any number of ethnic minorities .(
Except the ones on the park wearing blue !!)

No one likes us ,we dont care .....as the song goes.


https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/insight-has-scottish-politics-given-orange-order-boost-1445544


Happy birthday!

weecounty hibby
24-02-2022, 12:58 PM
Spoke to a couple of huns about this and even they are getting a bit nervous about all of this. They were asking how they can be a going concern but continually offer share issues to raise cash. I pray to every God that has ever existed that the stain on civilised Scottish society that is rangers goes pop again. The unfortunate thing is there does seek to be a never ending supply of gullible bigots who are prepared to chuck money away on worthless shares/loans

CentreLine
24-02-2022, 01:07 PM
Spoke to a couple of huns about this and even they are getting a bit nervous about all of this. They were asking how they can be a going concern but continually offer share issues to raise cash. I pray to every God that has ever existed that the stain on civilised Scottish society that is rangers goes pop again. The unfortunate thing is there does seek to be a never ending supply of gullible bigots who are prepared to chuck money away on worthless shares/loans

Agree with almost every word. Except the bit about going pop “again”
This is a new entity modelled entirely on the previous club that was Rangers but with added vigour towards bigotry. If they go pop it will be for the first time. Otherwise very well made points. 👍🏻

Mick O'Rourke
24-02-2022, 03:58 PM
Happy birthday!

Belated, but thank you !!
Seven Zero does have a ring to it !!

DaveSo
31-03-2022, 07:27 PM
Surprised there has not been much comment on this about the civil war simmering over at Ibrox between the Board and the fans.
Note today the board has back tracked and pulled out of the trip to Australia.
That is a lot of dosh the Board have walked away from.
I'm sure they have a plan (not) !

HoboHarry
31-03-2022, 07:32 PM
Surprised there has not been much comment on this about the civil war simmering over at Ibrox between the Board and the fans.
Note today the board has back tracked and pulled out of the trip to Australia.
That is a lot of dosh the Board have walked away from.
I'm sure they have a plan (not) !

Don't know if it's true but it's been mentioned that are now subject to a hefty financial penalty for walking away. Hope they are anyway.

Mick O'Rourke
31-03-2022, 08:04 PM
Don't know if it's true but it's been mentioned that are now subject to a hefty financial penalty for walking away. Hope they are anyway.
Yes, they may have breached a contract.
Newco are saying the organisers have.
Its them wanting the game to be named "Old Firm" and to keep pretending they were formed in the 19th century.
Celtic are branding it as "Ange's Homecoming" and i think "Glasgow Derby"(not old firm)
Zombies are ragin ,so.... "we're no playin"

JimBHibees
31-03-2022, 08:21 PM
Don't know if it's true but it's been mentioned that are now subject to a hefty financial penalty for walking away. Hope they are anyway.

The club following the example of the fans. :greengrin

Mick O'Rourke
31-03-2022, 08:29 PM
The club following the example of the fans. :greengrin

The official version :greengrin

A defiant Ally McCoist issued a rallying cry in the midst of the Ibrox insolvency crisis, quashing all talk of quitting by declaring:
'This is my club, the same as it is for thousands and thousands of Rangers supporters, and we don't do walking away.

16 Feb 2012

HoboHarry
31-03-2022, 08:33 PM
The club following the example of the fans. :greengrin
I selected my words carefully :greengrin

ancient hibee
31-03-2022, 09:34 PM
Don't know if it's true but it's been mentioned that are now subject to a hefty financial penalty for walking away. Hope they are anyway.

The financial penalty is that they will no longer be trousering the three million quid they would have done if they’d gone.

HoboHarry
31-03-2022, 10:04 PM
The financial penalty is that they will no longer be trousering the three million quid they would have done if they’d gone.

No, it's been said elsewhere that there is a penalty clause for withdrawing.

O'Rourke3
31-03-2022, 10:24 PM
No, it's been said elsewhere that there is a penalty clause for withdrawing.The Rangers thought the penalty clause was the one that operates here which is, "The Rangers will receive a free kick from the penalty spot regardless of whether there is a legitimate offence at the time of the award."
The fact the board backed down means they need the Union Bears more than the UB need them...

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JimBHibees
01-04-2022, 05:41 AM
The Rangers thought the penalty clause was the one that operates here which is, "The Rangers will receive a free kick from the penalty spot regardless of whether there is a legitimate offence at the time of the award."
The fact the board backed down means they need the Union Bears more than the UB need them...

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The club backing down to weirdos who chuck toilet rolls and tennis balls on the pitch when the team are losing isn't a good look imo.

marinello59
01-04-2022, 07:36 AM
The club backing down to weirdos who chuck toilet rolls and tennis balls on the pitch when the team are losing isn't a good look imo.

What wasn’t a good look was even thinking about playing a friendly Derby match in Australia. I’d like to think we would react in a similar way if the Edinburgh Derby was going to be designated as a friendly and played in a country which meant most ordinary fans would have no chance of attending.
I hate to give them credit but well done to the Rangers fans for running a successful campaign to get the game down under called off.

MKHIBEE
01-04-2022, 08:16 AM
What wasn’t a good look was even thinking about playing a friendly Derby match in Australia. I’d like to think we would react in a similar way if the Edinburgh Derby was going to be designated as a friendly and played in a country which meant most ordinary fans would have no chance of attending.
I hate to give them credit but well done to the Rangers fans for running a successful campaign to get the game down under called off.

What should it be designated as then?

neil7908
01-04-2022, 08:19 AM
I just love the statement - classic Sevco. Withdrawal is nothing to do with fan discontent of course! Surely if they have signed the contract for the friendly it should be clear what each side commits to, and any dispute could be raised in court?

Carheenlea
01-04-2022, 08:31 AM
What wasn’t a good look was even thinking about playing a friendly Derby match in Australia. I’d like to think we would react in a similar way if the Edinburgh Derby was going to be designated as a friendly and played in a country which meant most ordinary fans would have no chance of attending.
I hate to give them credit but well done to the Rangers fans for running a successful campaign to get the game down under called off.

I suppose one way of looking at an Edinburgh Derby friendly being played overseas would be that the target audience isn’t aimed at us. Just an opportunity to bring the fixture to expats and an overseas audience who wouldn’t normally have the chance to see such a game.

The Old Firm is such a toxic brand the project was doomed from the start.

Mick O'Rourke
01-04-2022, 08:31 AM
What wasn’t a good look was even thinking about playing a friendly Derby match in Australia. I’d like to think we would react in a similar way if the Edinburgh Derby was going to be designated as a friendly and played in a country which meant most ordinary fans would have no chance of attending.
I hate to give them credit but well done to the Rangers fans for running a successful campaign to get the game down under called off.
Most ordinary fans,when their team do friendlies abroad or pre season tours closer to home in Europe could not afford to follow them.

The Celtic v sevco game in Oz would fill theiir biggest grounds.
Scots Expats,and Irish/English from throughout Australia would want to see that.
A few years ago Liverpool played in Melbourne ....95.000 attended


Security would maybe be an issue though !

Since90+2
01-04-2022, 08:32 AM
Rangers cancelled because they simply couldn't take being the B side to Celtic in Australia, which they very much would have been.

CentreLine
01-04-2022, 08:33 AM
What wasn’t a good look was even thinking about playing a friendly Derby match in Australia. I’d like to think we would react in a similar way if the Edinburgh Derby was going to be designated as a friendly and played in a country which meant most ordinary fans would have no chance of attending.
I hate to give them credit but well done to the Rangers fans for running a successful campaign to get the game down under called off.

There is merit in that argument and I agree about friendly match. But how about being more radical and taking some of our more attractive league games abroad?

If we want to showcase to a broader audience and benefit the club by x millions for one match, then why not. If 80 to 100k people wanted to attend in somewhere like New York or Melbourne, carefully planned, it might work.

There are enough ex-pats in these places to generate interest and a properly done beamback would be an option, as well as tv at home and in the pub. Maybe even justify a number of fans on a charter put on by the club??
I know it’s April fools day but something like this shouldn’t be dismissed all together I feel

Carheenlea
01-04-2022, 08:35 AM
Most fans when their team do friendlies abroad or pre season tours could not afford to follow them

The Celtic v sevco game in Oz would fill theiir biggest grounds.
Scots Expats,and Irish/English from throughout Australia would want to see that.
A few years ago Liverpool played in Melbourne ....95.000 attended

I’ve never been to an Old Firm game and despise them both, but if I was an expat in Australia I’d probably go to the game for the novelty factor.

Mick O'Rourke
01-04-2022, 08:38 AM
Rangers cancelled because they simply couldn't take being the B side to Celtic in Australia, which they very much would have been.


Exactly
All those Irish descendants of Botany Bay and Wild Colonial boys !!

Renfrew_Hibby
01-04-2022, 10:18 AM
The Rangers thought the penalty clause was the one that operates here which is, "The Rangers will receive a free kick from the penalty spot regardless of whether there is a legitimate offence at the time of the award."
The fact the board backed down means they need the Union Bears more than the UB need them...

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Union Bears starting to have control/influence over the board much like you see in places like Italy. Not quite at the level of say Lazio ultras threatening all and sundry after a derby defeat but you can see there is an uneasy relationship (from the boards point of view) starting to take shape.
I'm sure Lawell didn't pander to the green brigade and was quite confrontational with them at times (I may be imaging things) but they don't seem to be as dominant a force within Celtic as the UB seem to be at Ibrox.

Billy Whizz
01-04-2022, 10:22 AM
Have Rangers been charged for the ball throwing incident at Dens Park?

CropleyWasGod
01-04-2022, 10:28 AM
Have Rangers been charged for the ball throwing incident at Dens Park?

By whom?

It won't be the SFA, as there is no strict liability in Scotland.

degenerated
01-04-2022, 11:18 AM
Have Rangers been charged for the ball throwing incident at Dens Park?No, but the SFA are giving Porteous a 3 game suspension for it.

Iain G
01-04-2022, 11:19 AM
I just love the statement - classic Sevco. Withdrawal is nothing to do with fan discontent of course! Surely if they have signed the contract for the friendly it should be clear what each side commits to, and any dispute could be raised in court?

Pulling out of a poorly judged tournament under fan pressure, losing out on £3m AND getting hit by a fine for breach of contract? They've only gone and Cinched it 🤣

A Hi-Bee
01-04-2022, 11:36 AM
Melbourne is a really nice city, they have dodged one here, the knuckle draggers would have came from all over this huge country.
Hordes o huns, no thanks any civilised country would just say NO.
:greengrin

Keith_M
01-04-2022, 11:43 AM
The Rangers thought the penalty clause was the one that operates here which is, "The Rangers will receive a free kick from the penalty spot regardless of whether there is a legitimate offence at the time of the award."
...



:greengrin

LunasBoots
01-04-2022, 10:09 PM
Graham Spears has hit the Rangers fans nerves (or what they have got of them) tonight.

JimBHibees
01-04-2022, 10:28 PM
Graham Spears has hit the Rangers fans nerves (or what they have got of them) tonight.

What is he saying

Lancs Harp
01-04-2022, 10:32 PM
Melbourne is a really nice city, they have dodged one here, the knuckle draggers would have came from all over this huge country.
Hordes o huns, no thanks any civilised country would just say NO.
:greengrin

The streets of Manchester still reek of Hun p155

Keith_M
02-04-2022, 07:55 AM
The Rangers face a (potential) £5M bill for cancelling their friendly in Australia.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-could-hit-5m-bill-26615824

JimBHibees
02-04-2022, 07:59 AM
The Rangers face a (potential) £5M bill for cancelling their friendly in Australia.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-could-hit-5m-bill-26615824

Brilliant news :greengrin

Bostonhibby
02-04-2022, 08:08 AM
The Rangers face a (potential) £5M bill for cancelling their friendly in Australia.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-could-hit-5m-bill-26615824They'll pay their debts, I'm sure I read somewhere they don't do walking away. Except when they opt for liquidation of themselves to avoid paying their debts obviously.

I'm sure there's a song confirming all this somewhere.

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HoboHarry
02-04-2022, 10:16 AM
Brilliant news :greengrin
Hopefully the Ashley amount is finalised soon too - someone at boardroom level is going to be seriously lighter in the pocket. Hope they go bust. Again.

Billy Whizz
02-04-2022, 10:32 AM
The Rangers face a (potential) £5M bill for cancelling their friendly in Australia.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-could-hit-5m-bill-26615824

Another share issue required then

GRA
05-04-2022, 06:26 PM
Morelos out for the rest of the season.

Such a shame, couldn't happen to a nicer player or a nicer club to lose their key man at such a crucial stage of the season... 🤐

flash
05-04-2022, 06:28 PM
Morelos out for the rest of the season.

Such a shame, couldn't happen to a nicer player or a nicer club to lose their key man at such a crucial stage of the season... 🤐

Porto will probably get another 2 games added.

007
24-04-2022, 10:16 PM
Rangers proving they're being total ********s over the cinch deal (as if we didn't already know). Now they've even taped over the cinch logo on the board for the post-match interviews at Fir Park.

Are they deeming that cinch advertising at other stadiums isn't permitted under their (probably imaginary) Parks contract, which they couldn't even provide a copy of to the SPFL board.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/rangers-tape-over-cinch-branding-23769963

gbhibby
24-04-2022, 10:25 PM
Another share issue required then
Hope they have good underwriters.

Hibernia&Alba
24-04-2022, 10:27 PM
Rangers proving they're being total ********s over the cinch deal (as if we didn't already know). Now they've even taped over the cinch logo on the board for the post-match interviews at Fir Park.

Are they deeming that cinch advertising at other stadiums isn't permitted under their (probably imaginary) Parks contract, which they couldn't even provide a copy of to the SPFL board.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/rangers-tape-over-cinch-branding-23769963


I'm sure Cinch will be talking to their lawyers :cb

007
24-04-2022, 10:35 PM
I'm sure Cinch will be talking to their lawyers :cb

Here's hoping. The whole cinch/Rangers thing is a bit of a strange one, haven't seen anything about it for ages (mind you my main source of Rangers news is this thread). Can't imagine they'd just let it go without taking any legal action.

HoboHarry
24-04-2022, 10:45 PM
Here's hoping. The whole cinch/Rangers thing is a bit of a strange one, haven't seen anything about it for ages (mind you my main source of Rangers news is this thread). Can't imagine they'd just let it go without taking any legal action.

You have to wonder what it is that Sevco have over the governing bodies that prevents them daring to take any action against Sevco. Is there a more terror stricken governing body anywhere else in the world that bends over so willingly for one club? There isn't a pair of balls amongst them.

007
24-04-2022, 10:48 PM
You have to wonder what it is that Sevco have over the governing bodies that prevents them daring to take any action against Sevco. Is there a more terror stricken governing body anywhere else in the world that bends over so willingly for one club? There isn't a pair of balls amongst them.

We'll probably find out at the end of the season that prize money has been reduced because we've had to accept less sponsorship from cinch.

MKHIBEE
25-04-2022, 09:48 AM
You have to wonder what it is that Sevco have over the governing bodies that prevents them daring to take any action against Sevco. Is there a more terror stricken governing body anywhere else in the world that bends over so willingly for one club? There isn't a pair of balls amongst them.

Who knows what secrets Lodge members have over each other

linlithgowhibbie
25-04-2022, 10:53 AM
Who knows what secrets Lodge members have over each other

The Grand Master?:thumbsup:

bod
26-04-2022, 03:32 PM
We'll probably find out at the end of the season that prize money has been reduced because we've had to accept less sponsorship from cinch.

Simplest way would be to withhold theirs but dish out the other places as agreed

CentreLine
27-04-2022, 10:07 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8767942/rangers-peace-talks-spfl-cinch-cash-fears-clubs/

Looks like the Orcs are concerned they won’t get any money and suddenly think it’s time to enter in to talks. 🤔

Biggie
27-04-2022, 10:28 AM
Hope they have good underwriters.

You mean undertakers 😉

jacomo
27-04-2022, 12:34 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8767942/rangers-peace-talks-spfl-cinch-cash-fears-clubs/

Looks like the Orcs are concerned they won’t get any money and suddenly think it’s time to enter in to talks. 🤔


Sevco should get 0% of the cinch money this season and every season unless they change their approach.

That’s just common sense isn’t it?

Moulin Yarns
27-04-2022, 12:39 PM
Sevco should get 0% of the cinch money this season and every season unless they change their approach.

That’s just common sense isn’t it?

100% agree with that.

Smartie
27-04-2022, 01:38 PM
Sevco should get 0% of the cinch money this season and every season unless they change their approach.

That’s just common sense isn’t it?

They’ll probably demand 100% of it for all the extra publicity it’s given them.

HoboHarry
27-04-2022, 01:53 PM
Probably need the cash to pay the Australian bill for canceling. F*** sevco and the white horse they rode in on.

Carheenlea
01-05-2022, 06:00 PM
The brass neck they have to come out with this statement - :lolrangers:

https://i.postimg.cc/htH4XRDD/0-A03-A892-D999-47-E6-9428-A3294-A9-BCD90.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zyFYQMH6)

Torto7
01-05-2022, 06:16 PM
The brass neck they have to come out with this statement - :lolrangers:

https://i.postimg.cc/htH4XRDD/0-A03-A892-D999-47-E6-9428-A3294-A9-BCD90.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zyFYQMH6)

Thats par for the course with them now. The loonies are running them.

JohnMcM
01-05-2022, 06:23 PM
The brass neck they have to come out with this statement - :lolrangers:

https://i.postimg.cc/htH4XRDD/0-A03-A892-D999-47-E6-9428-A3294-A9-BCD90.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zyFYQMH6)

Beyond paroday. In fact, in their own words “beggars belief”.

Billy Whizz
01-05-2022, 06:26 PM
The brass neck they have to come out with this statement - :lolrangers:

https://i.postimg.cc/htH4XRDD/0-A03-A892-D999-47-E6-9428-A3294-A9-BCD90.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zyFYQMH6)

We faced the same problem from their fans at the end of the last game at Ibrox
Did Hibs put out a statement?

LunasBoots
01-05-2022, 07:12 PM
Brass neck of them, I see Celtic have hit back with a statement of there own

Smartie
01-05-2022, 07:14 PM
Brass neck of them, I see Celtic have hit back with a statement of there own

It’s a cracker.

Carheenlea
01-05-2022, 08:54 PM
Brass neck of them, I see Celtic have hit back with a statement of there own

Will gather a bit of momentum, some Old Firm whataboutery about treatment of away fans while completely ignoring the exact same issues faced by non Old Firm fans every other week in their stadiums.

It’s all about them and the rest of us are mere bit players who just have to suck it up and be grateful for their existence.

A good journalist can accelerate the debate on the treatment in general of away fans in Glasgow, particularly at Ibrox where sectarianism, racism and bigotry is aired on a weekly basis, along with dangerous missile throwing from hight, but then it only becomes an issue when it involves one or the other of them. Sadly the media interest won’t expand beyond that either.

gbhibby
01-05-2022, 09:13 PM
That club have no shame.Get your own house in order first before coming out with statements like that. There were two glass bottles thrown by their fans at us in the East Stand in the semi as well as bottles thrown at our players can't recollect any statements issued by them.

CentreLine
02-05-2022, 07:22 AM
Aw, isn’t that just someone has accidentally reposted the club statement from May 2016🤔

NORTHERNHIBBY
02-05-2022, 07:40 AM
I heard on Radio Scotland that there were eight arrests after the game. For an Old Firm derby , I would have thought this was remarkably low.

Carheenlea
02-05-2022, 08:38 AM
I heard on Radio Scotland that there were eight arrests after the game. For an Old Firm derby , I would have thought this was remarkably low.

Remember the days when arrests were highlighted along with the other match stats in the newspapers. Different times.

oneone73
02-05-2022, 09:16 AM
That club have no shame.Get your own house in order first before coming out with statements like that. There were two glass bottles thrown by their fans at us in the East Stand in the semi as well as bottles thrown at our players can't recollect any statements issued by them.

Wish our club would come out and back our fans. Total silence after every Ibrox visit. Cowards.

Onion
02-05-2022, 05:58 PM
Wish our club would come out and back our fans. Total silence after every Ibrox visit. Cowards.

Harsh, and a futile exercise. There is not a chance of the media reporting a story that a few Hibs fans were hit by missiles at Ibrox or Celtic park. MSM have zero self-awareness. They cannot see past the Glasgow twins and the double standards. For The Rangers to issue a statement about a few of their fans being targeted is frankly as pathetic as it is laughable.

The common link between every major disturbance at football in Scotland (and abroad when they play in Europe) is ... The Rangers Football Club 2012.

oneone73
02-05-2022, 06:29 PM
Harsh, and a futile exercise. There is not a chance of the media reporting a story that a few Hibs fans were hit by missiles at Ibrox or Celtic park. MSM have zero self-awareness. They cannot see past the Glasgow twins and the double standards. For The Rangers to issue a statement about a few of their fans being targeted is frankly as pathetic as it is laughable.

The common link between every major disturbance at football in Scotland (and abroad when they play in Europe) is ... The Rangers Football Club 2012.

I don't think it's harsh. Dempster continually crapped out of calling out the Huns.
If she had, it would have been reported, if only for the backlash from the Huns.

MKHIBEE
02-05-2022, 06:49 PM
Wish our club would come out and back our fans. Total silence after every Ibrox visit. Cowards.

I think the one certainty that would come from calling out the Huns is that it would end up being the Hibs that would feel the backlash. It’s pointless whingeing about it, I know it’s not right but what is when it comes to the dastardly duo?

ian cruise
03-05-2022, 08:04 AM
The brass neck they have to come out with this statement - :lolrangers:

https://i.postimg.cc/htH4XRDD/0-A03-A892-D999-47-E6-9428-A3294-A9-BCD90.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zyFYQMH6)

Fingers crossed Police Scotland take notice and make a big deal about it, as it sets a precedent. Should that happen we just need to call out every instance of their fans doing the same to ourselves.

Mick O'Rourke
04-05-2022, 09:06 AM
Fingers crossed Police Scotland take notice and make a big deal about it, as it sets a precedent. Should that happen we just need to call out every instance of their fans doing the same to ourselves.


But what did Police Scotland actually do and did they have a remit/instructions to do anything other than contain thousands of orange and blue clad followers of a club?
Marching in their thousands to City Centre ignoring covid rules

A new club who won a first league title just a few years after they were formed and their followers wrecked George Square and other parts of the City in "celebration"
Glasgow council taxpayer still footing that costs of that mayhem and destruction.
Newco should have paid for the untold needless wreckless,damage and disruption to the peaceful citizens of Glasgow and their was plenty of that over those days.

If sevco get to Seville,i trust our PC Pod and Glasgow City Council will be warning their counterparts in Seville of the incoming uncontrolable sunami of madness, aka no one likes us we dont care,and mayhem
Sorry for any Hi-Bees and others who may have booked hoidays in the region around same times
These hordes will flood the resorts in their thousands
Sevilla ground only hold 50k Zombies wont get anywhere near half of those
So a Manchester situation is on the cards




Of course most of the above could be avioded if the Germans can beat the stickies the morn

gbhibby
04-05-2022, 09:44 AM
Wish our club would come out and back our fans. Total silence after every Ibrox visit. Cowards.
The west coast media don't care even if we made a statement.What gets me is that clubs high and mighty attitude when it happens to their fans. Their fans cause more trouble than any club. Look at their so called celebrations when they won the league. We have had to tolerate this thuggish behaviour from them and Celtic fans for as long as I have been watching Hibs which amounts to 56 years. Its a sad indictment on both these clubs that they still have scu# that behave like that.

gbhibby
04-05-2022, 09:55 AM
Fingers crossed Police Scotland take notice and make a big deal about it, as it sets a precedent. Should that happen we just need to call out every instance of their fans doing the same to ourselves.
The Glasgow police will do nothing as per usual.

Prof. Shaggy
08-06-2022, 07:28 PM
"Rangers Football Club have been accused of conspiring to illegally fix the prices of club merchandise.

The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) found the club colluded with retailers JD Sports and Elite Sports to keep prices of replica kits high from September 2018 to at least July 2019.

The CMA said the three parties could expect heavy fines if found guilty.

Rangers said they would review the provisional findings before submitting a response.

The UK competition watchdog found that Rangers were involved in the alleged collusion, but only to the extent of fixing the price of adult replica short-sleeved home shirts."

Another day in court.

Lendo
08-06-2022, 07:40 PM
"Rangers Football Club have been accused of conspiring to illegally fix the prices of club merchandise.

The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) found the club colluded with retailers JD Sports and Elite Sports to keep prices of replica kits high from September 2018 to at least July 2019.

The CMA said the three parties could expect heavy fines if found guilty.

Rangers said they would review the provisional findings before submitting a response.

The UK competition watchdog found that Rangers were involved in the alleged collusion, but only to the extent of fixing the price of adult replica short-sleeved home shirts."

Another day in court.

Ripping off their own fans… I’m sure the staunch bunch will find some way to defend them whilst at the same time blaming everyone else.

Lendo
08-06-2022, 07:46 PM
Ripping off their own fans… I’m sure the staunch bunch will find some way to defend them whilst at the same time blaming everyone else.

Yep, a quick glance at Rangers Media, it’s all a distraction to keep Celtic stories out of the papers.

007
08-06-2022, 07:51 PM
"Rangers Football Club have been accused of conspiring to illegally fix the prices of club merchandise.

The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) found the club colluded with retailers JD Sports and Elite Sports to keep prices of replica kits high from September 2018 to at least July 2019.

The CMA said the three parties could expect heavy fines if found guilty.

Rangers said they would review the provisional findings before submitting a response.

The UK competition watchdog found that Rangers were involved in the alleged collusion, but only to the extent of fixing the price of adult replica short-sleeved home shirts."

Another day in court.

Nothing surprises me with that lot.

Haven't seen anything lately about the cinch debacle, nothing since they covered up their name/logo with tape. If there was any reduction in their sponsorship money then I hope it all came out of Rangers' share.

Moulin Yarns
20-07-2022, 09:08 AM
https://twitter.com/BBCScotComms/status/1549680542450319361?t=6wtJVL--YfbBNavDYKK0eA&s=19

BBC apology to the Rangers to end the dispute!!!

Rumble de Thump
20-07-2022, 09:16 AM
Very cringeworthy. How can people trust the media to do their jobs properly? This BBC statement makes it clear that they can't.

Torto7
20-07-2022, 09:17 AM
https://twitter.com/BBCScotComms/status/1549680542450319361?t=6wtJVL--YfbBNavDYKK0eA&s=19

BBC apology to the Rangers to end the dispute!!!

Imagine how Spence is feeling now. The Beeb are in full unionist attack mode away from football so it makes sense for them to try and appease the loyalist pitbulls. Pathetic. They'll run anti racism campaigns whilst praising the atmosphere at Ibrox without the slightest hint of irony.

Bostonhibby
20-07-2022, 09:20 AM
Imagine how Spence is feeling now. The Beeb are in full unionist attack mode away from football so it makes sense for them to try and appease the loyalist pitbulls. Pathetic. They'll run anti racism campaigns whilst praising the atmosphere at Ibrox without the slightest hint of irony.Jeez, what is our national broadcasters editorial "standard" on the indirect broadcasting of banned sectarian hate songs ?

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Springbank
20-07-2022, 09:22 AM
Jeez, what is our national broadcasters editorial "standard" on the indirect broadcasting of banned sectarian hate songs ?

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I think the trouble is it's someone else's national broadcaster, and it maybe suits that 'someone else' to foster as much division as they can in these last days

Torto7
20-07-2022, 09:25 AM
I think the trouble is it's someone else's national broadcaster, and it maybe suits that 'someone else' to foster as much division as they can in these last days

Bingo. Orange walks are up by 129% since 2014. Someone is paying to bus in a lot of obese bigots from Ulster.

Bishop Hibee
20-07-2022, 09:45 AM
Absolutely disgraceful from the BBC. Newco the victim. I expect Hibs to refuse entry to biased ‘pundits’ like Levein and Preston.

Northernhibee
20-07-2022, 09:49 AM
**** the BBC.

Bostonhibby
20-07-2022, 09:54 AM
I think the trouble is it's someone else's national broadcaster, and it maybe suits that 'someone else' to foster as much division as they can in these last daysI agree but it would be interesting if the Scottish government decided to enforce it's sectarian hate legislation and to see how the BBC covered it and complied or would their rather transparent bias remain on show?

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DaveF
20-07-2022, 10:09 AM
Oh jeez, what have you done BBC? That is utterly pitiful. Shame on you.

H18 SFR
20-07-2022, 10:12 AM
Absolutely disgraceful from the BBC. Newco the victim. I expect Hibs to refuse entry to biased ‘pundits’ like Levein and Preston.

You expect us to act like rangers and refuse entry. Why?

green day
20-07-2022, 10:22 AM
Will Chris McLaughlin now be allowed back into Ibrox?

Pathetic from the BBC, utterly pathetic.

Sergio sledge
20-07-2022, 10:34 AM
They've hung Chris McLaughlin out to dry on this one, it would be interesting to see what specific aspects of his reporting the BBC considered did not meet their editorial standards and why they think it didn't meet their standards.

No specific apology or reference to specific articles/reports makes me think that they're just doing this to appease Sevco and their fans and get back into Ibrox as they think it was harming their coverage.

I'd hazard a guess that Chris McLaughlin still won't be welcome to report from there and it'll be other reporters doing all the work.

Hibs90
20-07-2022, 10:59 AM
Imagine how Spence is feeling now. The Beeb are in full unionist attack mode away from football so it makes sense for them to try and appease the loyalist pitbulls. Pathetic. They'll run anti racism campaigns whilst praising the atmosphere at Ibrox without the slightest hint of irony.

Precisely this, there is a deeper meaning here rather than football stuff. Trying to keep as many of them inside as they can. I suspect under instruction from those higher up in the BBC

Nakedmanoncrack
20-07-2022, 11:05 AM
Imagine how Spence is feeling now. The Beeb are in full unionist attack mode away from football so it makes sense for them to try and appease the loyalist pitbulls. Pathetic. They'll run anti racism campaigns whilst praising the atmosphere at Ibrox without the slightest hint of irony.

Agreed, anyone expecting anything else from the UK State broadcaster hasn't been paying attention.

MKHIBEE
20-07-2022, 01:16 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCScotComms/status/1549680542450319361?t=6wtJVL--YfbBNavDYKK0eA&s=19

BBC apology to the Rangers to end the dispute!!!

The statement notes that the apologies have been previously been made and are repeated. If true why wasn’t the dispute settled with the original apologies.?

JimBHibees
20-07-2022, 01:27 PM
Bingo. Orange walks are up by 129% since 2014. Someone is paying to bus in a lot of obese bigots from Ulster.

That's an incredible and depressing stat.

Oscar T Grouch
20-07-2022, 01:44 PM
The statement notes that the apologies have been previously been made and are repeated. If true why wasn’t the dispute settled with the original apologies.?

It wasn't settled because the Beeb decided to stand by their employee and refused to let the Huns decide who could cover their games at ibrox. It certainly looks like they've chucked their employee under the big loyalist hun bus this time, hence the end of hostilities. The Beeb is going to need all the loyal unionists on side over the next year or so as they ramp up the propaganda, this is the reason this has happened now.

The Baldmans Comb
20-07-2022, 03:30 PM
Stop whining about the BBC grovelling on its knees to Newco and do something else instead and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.😂

Jim44
20-07-2022, 03:31 PM
It wasn't settled because the Beeb decided to stand by their employee and refused to let the Huns decide who could cover their games at ibrox. It certainly looks like they've chucked their employee under the big loyalist hun bus this time, hence the end of hostilities. The Beeb is going to need all the loyal unionists on side over the next year or so as they ramp up the propaganda, this is the reason this has happened now.

Dispicable decision by the BBC. I wonder if the SFA and SPFL have put pressure on the BBC to stop victimising their beloved Sevco. To apologise so long after the original incident suggests some sort of collusion or pressure.

Smartie
20-07-2022, 03:38 PM
Not sure I'd be in a rush to go and work for the BBC.

The way they stand by their journalists really leaves something to be desired.

There's something absolutely ****ing rancid about Scotland when you see what happens to the likes of Jim Spence, Chris McLaughlin and Graham Spiers for either reporting facts or holding a slightly different opinion to the one that one of Scotland's most dubious institutions would like them to hold.

Big_Franck
20-07-2022, 03:41 PM
It wasn't settled because the Beeb decided to stand by their employee and refused to let the Huns decide who could cover their games at ibrox. It certainly looks like they've chucked their employee under the big loyalist hun bus this time, hence the end of hostilities. The Beeb is going to need all the loyal unionists on side over the next year or so as they ramp up the propaganda, this is the reason this has happened now.

This, 100%.

Carheenlea
20-07-2022, 04:52 PM
The BBC are effectively condoning sectarian chanting at Ibrox by not continuing to fight the corner of their employee who’s reporting accurately described events at Ibrox at the time. To suggest this didn’t meet editorial standards makes a mockery of any genuine attempts to call out sectarianism and bigotry in Scotland.

Ultimately it wasn’t really much of a boycott as it’s not as if we didn’t hear enough Rangers content from the BBC on a daily basis on Sportsound. If they didn’t actually tell us they were boycotting Ibrox how would we have known?

Lendo
06-09-2022, 06:27 PM
It’s been a while since we’ve had this thread on the 1st page.

Could resist sharing this conspiracy theory that the death of former Pop Idol singer Darius Danesh is linked to The Rangers.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/darius-danesh-leaked-documents-on-secret-ploy-to-sell-rangers.219335/

LunasBoots
07-09-2022, 06:15 PM
Few Rangers mates reckon Park is selling the Buns next week to some Hong Kong consortium any truth in that or just Chinese whispers?

04Sauzee
07-09-2022, 06:18 PM
Few Rangers mates reckon Park is selling the Buns next week to some Hong Kong consortium any truth in that or just Chinese whispers?

It's all Phooey

Jim44
07-09-2022, 07:27 PM
Few Rangers mates reckon Park is selling the Buns next week to some Hong Kong consortium any truth in that or just Chinese whispers?

Well you never know……….. I was unaware of the link:

Hun, in Chinese Daoism, the heavenly (and more spiritual) “souls” of the human being that leave the body on death,

gbhibby
07-09-2022, 07:41 PM
Few Rangers mates reckon Park is selling the Buns next week to some Hong Kong consortium any truth in that or just Chinese whispers?
After being compared to Mannequins against Ajax their new sponsors will be the Terracotta Warriors.

Since90+2
07-09-2022, 07:51 PM
Few Rangers mates reckon Park is selling the Buns next week to some Hong Kong consortium any truth in that or just Chinese whispers?

Does he even own Sevco?

HoboHarry
07-09-2022, 08:03 PM
Sounds like a desperate attempt by the board to start a bidding war to try and recoup their collective losses. Maybe they don't fancy taking on the Lying King again in a power struggle.....

jacomo
07-09-2022, 10:47 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCScotComms/status/1549680542450319361?t=6wtJVL--YfbBNavDYKK0eA&s=19

BBC apology to the Rangers to end the dispute!!!


That is a disgrace.

CyberSauzee
07-09-2022, 10:48 PM
Huns trying to do walking away at half time earlier 🤣🤣

https://twitter.com/no7magic/status/1567605592432197633?t=2I-8Eys5UObQPvvvhTwr4g&s=19

007
08-09-2022, 12:07 AM
https://twitter.com/Hun_Occhio/status/1567591060083179522?t=hwG9Xj0fcO5LarwOykZqNA&s=19

Hibrandenburg
08-09-2022, 05:40 AM
Few Rangers mates reckon Park is selling the Buns next week to some Hong Kong consortium any truth in that or just Chinese whispers?

Looking forward to seeing Taiwanese flags alongside the Irish and Palestinian one's at Celtic Park.

grunt
21-09-2022, 05:49 PM
Good to see @RangersTaxCase tweeting again about EBTs and taxes not being paid ...

https://twitter.com/rangerstaxcase/status/1572212003116285953?s=20&t=VLTtyjZtnGAq0BqwaYqv_A

LunasBoots
21-09-2022, 07:06 PM
Good to see @RangersTaxCase tweeting again about EBTs and taxes not being paid ...

https://twitter.com/rangerstaxcase/status/1572212003116285953?s=20&t=VLTtyjZtnGAq0BqwaYqv_A

Rangers fans not happy with the current owners I see, asking where all the monies have gone 😁

HoboHarry
21-09-2022, 07:09 PM
Rangers fans not happy with the current owners I see, asking where all the monies have gone 😁
Realising that good chunks went/are going to Ashley and Hector would I would imagine have them booting goats around the lodge in anger lol.... Oh wait, they are always angry....

Oscar T Grouch
09-11-2022, 12:53 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63566707

Huns post a profit. Is it just me or is £5.9m profit (to year end June 22) for a season that they sold a player for £12mil and reached the 2nd tier European final, seem a little small to you? Vast improvement on the £23.5mil lose from last season. Their turnover is up, probably due to their Euro adventures but doing a back of a fag packet calculation, take away Patterson's (12m) sale and the Euro final (est €10-12m so £9-10mil), they would still be taking a loss of around £18mil. Are the huns only sustainable if they sell players circa £10mil each year and get Euro football to the tune of around £10mil per season, is that a good business model?

JohnM1875
09-11-2022, 01:02 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63566707

Huns post a profit. Is it just me or is £5.9m profit (to year end June 22) for a season that they sold a player for £12mil and reached the 2nd tier European final, seem a little small to you? Vast improvement on the £23.5mil lose from last season. Their turnover is up, probably due to their Euro adventures but doing a back of a fag packet calculation, take away Patterson's (12m) sale and the Euro final (est €10-12m so £9-10mil), they would still be taking a loss of around £18mil. Are the huns only sustainable if they sell players circa £10mil each year and get Euro football to the tune of around £10mil per season, is that a good business model?

Unfortunately think they’ll be doing fine money wise. Champions League money, Aribo and Bassey sales added to season ticket money etc will be a fair whack.

Oscar T Grouch
09-11-2022, 01:08 PM
Unfortunately think they’ll be doing fine money wise. Champions League money, Aribo and Bassey sales added to season ticket money etc will be a fair whack.

Yeah I suppose, just sticks in the craw a bit. Their demise lead to 120mil in loses and they are still competing and spending more than everyone bar celtc.

Smartie
09-11-2022, 01:18 PM
Yeah I suppose, just sticks in the craw a bit. Their demise lead to 120mil in loses and they are still competing and spending more than everyone bar celtc.

It remains to be seen how engaged the "hordes" will remain if they're a distant second best to Celtic over a sustained period of time, and they appear to have a pretty high bar for breaking even. As has been pointed out, to make a profit of "only" 5 and a bit million when they've had a lot go their way poses more than a few questions.


Funny to see this thread come back around again now - I'm going to a lecture up at Stirling Uni tomorrow by a business lecturer who has written a book on the subject of the whole Rangers implosion. I'm quite looking forward to it.

WhileTheChief..
09-11-2022, 01:20 PM
It remains to be seen how engaged the "hordes" will remain if they're a distant second best to Celtic over a sustained period of time, and they appear to have a pretty high bar for breaking even. As has been pointed out, to make a profit of "only" 5 and a bit million when they've had a lot go their way poses more than a few questions.


Funny to see this thread come back around again now - I'm going to a lecture up at Stirling Uni tomorrow by a business lecturer who has written a book on the subject of the whole Rangers implosion. I'm quite looking forward to it.

Could you let us know how it goes and if the book sounds worthwhile?

donno
09-11-2022, 02:24 PM
Could you let us know how it goes and if the book sounds worthwhile?Me too!

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HoboHarry
09-11-2022, 02:33 PM
Yeah I suppose, just sticks in the craw a bit. Their demise lead to 120mil in loses and they are still competing and spending more than everyone bar celtc.
They hardly spent a thing in the last transfer window compared to what they've done in the past. I imagine that will remain the case moving forward as they are in the FFP sights of UEFA.

Oscar T Grouch
09-11-2022, 02:38 PM
They hardly spent a thing in the last transfer window compared to what they've done in the past. I imagine that will remain the case moving forward as they are in the FFP sights of UEFA.

That is one part of it but if they're relying on selling players each year to break even, restricting what you spend makes that all the more difficult, which is nice, the harder they have to struggle to exist the better! :greengrin

Smartie
09-11-2022, 02:46 PM
Could you let us know how it goes and if the book sounds worthwhile?


Me too!

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Of course.

This is the lecture...

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/rangers-football-club-1998-2015-tickets-439489333427

And a couple of articles from the press about the lecture and book from last week...

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9687491/uni-professor-verdict-rangers-died-book/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9691086/rangers-book-calls-out-phil-macgiollabhain-comments-glad-dead/



A lot of the info regarding the collapse of Rangers has come from the "Celtic minded" fraternity, so I was hoping there might be some merit in hearing the angle of a Falkirk supporting academic.

The Pointer
09-11-2022, 08:45 PM
Of course.

This is the lecture...

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/rangers-football-club-1998-2015-tickets-439489333427

And a couple of articles from the press about the lecture and book from last week...

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9687491/uni-professor-verdict-rangers-died-book/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9691086/rangers-book-calls-out-phil-macgiollabhain-comments-glad-dead/



A lot of the info regarding the collapse of Rangers has come from the "Celtic minded" fraternity, so I was hoping there might be some merit in hearing the angle of a Falkirk supporting academic.


That sounds very interesting although a bit far for me to attend. I think almost all fans of other clubs observed the goings-on with a huge amount of distaste and find it difficult, if not impossible, to be dispassionate; but as the chap is an academic he will probably produce some difficult conclusions for most of us.

One of these is if he tries to separate the club from the company as I'd always lumped the two together. Up until Murray put them on the market, the directors were, to my knowledge, all Rangers supporters so inextricably linked to the club and after they were sold they were not, just 'suits' in to pillage the club as fast as possible. However, as we all know, the financial problems had started many years before when Murray was looking for ways to pay for his excessive spending to try and keep up with Celtc.

I look forward to hearing what Mr. Howieson says but I hope he confirms many of our suspicions.

Fuzzywuzzy
10-11-2022, 11:22 AM
Just saw they had a display that said "let me tell you a story of honour and glory"

Not a hint of irony

Springbank
10-11-2022, 12:38 PM
Just saw they had a display that said "let me tell you a story of honour and glory"

Not a hint of irony

[Curtain Up]

The date is 21st May 2016

The clock reads ninety-plus-two

It's Liam Henderson to deliver

David Gray The Captain

What Kept You Hibs

[Curtain Drops]

CyberSauzee
10-11-2022, 01:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63566707

Huns post a profit. Is it just me or is £5.9m profit (to year end June 22) for a season that they sold a player for £12mil and reached the 2nd tier European final, seem a little small to you? Vast improvement on the £23.5mil lose from last season. Their turnover is up, probably due to their Euro adventures but doing a back of a fag packet calculation, take away Patterson's (12m) sale and the Euro final (est €10-12m so £9-10mil), they would still be taking a loss of around £18mil. Are the huns only sustainable if they sell players circa £10mil each year and get Euro football to the tune of around £10mil per season, is that a good business model?

I'm not a qualified accountant, but in their accounts it says an operating loss for the year to 30 June 2022 of just under £1m. So where does the £5.9m profit come from :confused:

https://assets.ctfassets.net/39646iezddpk/9mtFYKCWoUuccqfYqh2Ze/ef79798d4a6b3f9756d4741006421fef/Rangers_Reports_and_Accounts_2022_09_FINAL.pdf

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Oscar T Grouch
10-11-2022, 02:08 PM
I'm not a qualified accountant, but in their accounts it says an operating loss for the year to 30 June 2022 of just under £1m. So where does the £5.9m profit come from :confused:

https://assets.ctfassets.net/39646iezddpk/9mtFYKCWoUuccqfYqh2Ze/ef79798d4a6b3f9756d4741006421fef/Rangers_Reports_and_Accounts_2022_09_FINAL.pdf

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Sorry I was going by the BBC story which states that as profit, I wouldn't even look at the accounts as I have less comprehension of them than a rock does of quantum mechanics :greengrin
Maybe one of our better knowledged posters will be able to help.

CyberSauzee
10-11-2022, 02:18 PM
Sorry I was going by the BBC story which states that as profit, I wouldn't even look at the accounts as I have less comprehension of them than a rock does of quantum mechanics :greengrin
Maybe one of our better knowledged posters will be able to help.

Wasn't having a go at you Oscar!! Just very confused with the headline myself when you see an actual loss in the P&L!!!! Where is cropley was god???

HibeeHibernia
10-11-2022, 02:25 PM
Just saw they had a display that said "let me tell you a story of honour and glory"

Not a hint of irony


seen that last night as well mate creepy people lol

HibeeHibernia
10-11-2022, 02:30 PM
They have been making losses for 10 years I was surprised that was the only debt they owe anyone haha i thought it would have been in the tens of millions.

HoboHarry
10-11-2022, 02:40 PM
I'm not a qualified accountant, but in their accounts it says an operating loss for the year to 30 June 2022 of just under £1m. So where does the £5.9m profit come from :confused:

https://assets.ctfassets.net/39646iezddpk/9mtFYKCWoUuccqfYqh2Ze/ef79798d4a6b3f9756d4741006421fef/Rangers_Reports_and_Accounts_2022_09_FINAL.pdf

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David Low was pretty quick to guffaw at the notion that they made a profit. They didn't.

overdrive
10-11-2022, 04:31 PM
I'm not a qualified accountant, but in their accounts it says an operating loss for the year to 30 June 2022 of just under £1m. So where does the £5.9m profit come from :confused:

https://assets.ctfassets.net/39646iezddpk/9mtFYKCWoUuccqfYqh2Ze/ef79798d4a6b3f9756d4741006421fef/Rangers_Reports_and_Accounts_2022_09_FINAL.pdf

26281

No, it says an operating profit of just under £5.9m which is the profit before one-off costs (the note suggests that’s legal costs), finance costs (so interest etc.) and tax. Taking those three things into account, the loss after tax, one-off costs and finance costs is just under £1m.

Billy Whizz
10-11-2022, 04:41 PM
According to this, still owe £78m to investors


https://www.ibroxnews.com/2022/11/10/rangers-still-owe-78m-to-ibrox-investors-chris-jack/

HoboHarry
10-11-2022, 04:54 PM
According to this, still owe £78m to investors


https://www.ibroxnews.com/2022/11/10/rangers-still-owe-78m-to-ibrox-investors-chris-jack/
They are in UEFA's cross-hairs too after falling foul of the FFP rules. F*** 'em, I hope they go bust and the Park's et al don't get their money back.

Iain G
10-11-2022, 05:04 PM
They are in UEFA's cross-hairs too after falling foul of the FFP rules. F*** 'em, I hope they go bust and the Park's et al don't get their money back.

I hope they cinch it 🤣

CropleyWasGod
11-11-2022, 11:15 AM
According to this, still owe £78m to investors


https://www.ibroxnews.com/2022/11/10/rangers-still-owe-78m-to-ibrox-investors-chris-jack/

Not seeing that at all.

overdrive
11-11-2022, 02:45 PM
Not seeing that at all.

Looks like just over £12m to me. Their total liabilities isn't that much more than the figure stated in that article, so I'm not too sure where they are getting that.

CropleyWasGod
11-11-2022, 03:32 PM
Looks like just over £12m to me. Their total liabilities isn't that much more than the figure stated in that article, so I'm not too sure where they are getting that.

Possibly included the share capital and share premium, which is a nonsense way to look at things. I still can't get those numbers to work either.

CropleyWasGod
11-11-2022, 05:49 PM
To answer the earlier questions about profit/loss,they have included the £11m (?) from Everton for Patterson when arriving at the headline profit.

After the season end , they also sold Aribo and Bassey.

I haven't looked at the accounts in detail, but what I have seen suggests that they need to sell to keep afloat.....

... just like most clubs:))

Moulin Yarns
23-11-2022, 05:13 PM
Just when you think it's all gone away...



https://news.stv.tv/west-central/sportswear-brand-elite-sports-group-seeking-9-5m-from-rangers-wins-legal-discovery-bid



Sue them!!!! £9.5mill

HoboHarry
23-11-2022, 06:02 PM
Just when you think it's all gone away...



https://news.stv.tv/west-central/sportswear-brand-elite-sports-group-seeking-9-5m-from-rangers-wins-legal-discovery-bid



Sue them!!!! £9.5mill
One day Sevco will realise that while they can run roughshod over the inept dullards at the SFA, their irresponsibility and/or dishonesty will get them handed their ***** when they play with big business. **** them, I hope they go bust. Again.

CentreLine
23-11-2022, 10:22 PM
One day Sevco will realise that while they can run roughshod over the inept dullards at the SFA, their irresponsibility and/or dishonesty will get them handed their ***** when they play with big business. **** them, I hope they go bust. Again.

Oi!! What’s this “again” thing. The the rangers have never been bust😏

Donegal Hibby
29-11-2022, 12:41 PM
Just when you think it's all gone away...



https://news.stv.tv/west-central/sportswear-brand-elite-sports-group-seeking-9-5m-from-rangers-wins-legal-discovery-bid



Sue them!!!! £9.5mill
According to the Scottish sun (yeah I know) . Sydney super cup promoters have filed legal action against rangers and are looking for 1.7 million in compensation. Hope this is true as well 😆

Moulin Yarns
29-11-2022, 12:53 PM
According to the Scottish sun (yeah I know) . Sydney super cup promoters have filed legal action against rangers and are looking for 1.7 million in compensation. Hope this is true as well 😆

https://news.stv.tv/sport/rangers-sued-for-1-6m-after-withdrawing-from-sydney-super-cup

Keith_M
29-11-2022, 05:24 PM
Just when you think it's all gone away...



https://news.stv.tv/west-central/sportswear-brand-elite-sports-group-seeking-9-5m-from-rangers-wins-legal-discovery-bid



Sue them!!!! £9.5mill


Apparently that company have now gone into administration.

Not that it stops the receivers from trying to get money, but I'd imagine it makes it less likely.

cabbageandribs1875
05-12-2022, 04:52 PM
quite a few voting against the re-election of Douglas Park as chairman though still expected to get it

Club 1872 to vote AGAINST Rangers chairman Douglas Park as fan group reveal their stance on 3 AGM issues (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/club-1872-to-vote-against-rangers-chairman-douglas-park-as-fan-group-reveal-their-stance-on-3-agm-issues/ar-AA14VkEl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=507b1b269bc44ac8aa5af6144b4d4fd5)

Donegal Hibby
08-12-2022, 10:37 AM
Rangers liquidators finally agree settlement .
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9891217/rangers-liquidators-56m-settlement-taxman-hmrc-creditors/

happiehibbie
08-12-2022, 01:31 PM
this whole case has cost the scottish taxpayer fortunes

CropleyWasGod
08-12-2022, 03:30 PM
this whole case has cost the scottish taxpayer fortunes

To be pedantic, it's the UK taxpayer. The whole debacle happened at a time when we didn't have access to our own Income Tax receipts.

Winston Ingram
08-12-2022, 05:13 PM
To be pedantic, it's the UK taxpayer. The whole debacle happened at a time when we didn't have access to our own Income Tax receipts.

However, the malicious prosecution of Sevco has cost the Scottish Taxpayer £51m

CropleyWasGod
08-12-2022, 05:22 PM
However, the malicious prosecution of Sevco has cost the Scottish Taxpayer £51m

Indeed:)

If we'd had access to our own IT money, we might have ended up ahead .... but that's for another thread ;)

grunt
12-01-2023, 07:50 PM
Nice to see @RangersTaxCase posting again on Twitter.

He's talking about this story in The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sheriff-will-retire-after-dishonest-report-on-rangers-takeover-6kwd7plqr?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1673543200-1


EXCLUSIVE: A sheriff who owned shares in Rangers FC is to retire after it emerged that he colluded with a senior police officer before submitting a dishonest and misleading report during the botched police investigation into the takeover of the Ibrox ...

HoboHarry
12-01-2023, 08:18 PM
Nice to see @RangersTaxCase posting again on Twitter.

He's talking about this story in The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sheriff-will-retire-after-dishonest-report-on-rangers-takeover-6kwd7plqr?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1673543200-1
Will be interesting to see how the MSM covers this. Deafening silence from the Sevco acolytes most likely.

JeMeSouviens
13-01-2023, 09:43 AM
So Hun sherriff falsifies warrants so that Hun cop can try to fit up Duff & Phelps because they're both beelin about what happened to the Old Huns. This costs the taxpayer a multi-million pound settlement.

But Scotland's most senior judge personally intervenes so no action is taken and the sherriff can just quietly retire? :confused:

Lendo
13-01-2023, 11:16 AM
I’m always happy when this thread reappears on Page 1.

HoboHarry
13-01-2023, 11:28 AM
I’m always happy when this thread reappears on Page 1.
I live in hope that I open this thread one day to find that the new iteration of that ugly club has gone into administration.

JimBHibees
13-01-2023, 11:35 AM
So Hun sherriff falsifies warrants so that Hun cop can try to fit up Duff & Phelps because they're both beelin about what happened to the Old Huns. This costs the taxpayer a multi-million pound settlement.

But Scotland's most senior judge personally intervenes so no action is taken and the sherriff can just quietly retire? :confused:

Yep a shocker he is able to retire says it all. Corrupt as

blackpoolhibs
13-01-2023, 11:45 AM
Yep a shocker he is able to retire says it all. Corrupt as

And folk still insist the game in Scotland is not corrupt, the law is corrupt, and some of those in charge of the football are either frightened to do or say anything, and the rest just plain corrupt.

And we are all daft enough to still follow the bloody game knowing this. :crazy:

MrSmith
13-01-2023, 05:07 PM
Every team in Scotland needs to isolate the rangers to remove them from Scottish football. This is the tip of the iceberg in regards to the level of corruption that surrounds them.

sadtom
13-01-2023, 07:30 PM
I live in hope that I open this thread one day to find that the new iteration of that ugly club has gone into administration.

:agree:
I hope and pray that by the time we reach page 1690 the zombie incarnation has received the fatal blow to the noggin.
217 pages to go for the delicious irony.

007
13-01-2023, 07:42 PM
Nice to see @RangersTaxCase posting again on Twitter.

He's talking about this story in The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sheriff-will-retire-after-dishonest-report-on-rangers-takeover-6kwd7plqr?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1673543200-1

Looks like a conflict of interest and blatant corruption.

Bostonhibby
13-01-2023, 07:45 PM
Looks like a conflict of interest and blatant corruption.I agree, they should get these 2 judges trained up for VAR duties asap.

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007
13-01-2023, 09:11 PM
I agree, they should get these 2 judges trained up for VAR duties asap.

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They must have done a crash course to get them in the booth (or whatever they call it) for tonight.

Moulin Yarns
01-02-2023, 04:15 PM
Not the club but their support


https://twitter.com/ionafyfe/status/1620802915492564996?t=fLfjHSXY9QgqXQWJxNMOyQ&s=19



Waking up to horrid comments (an entire thread) dedicated to harassing me on FollowFollow, the Rangers forum that The Rangers Club endorse. All because I suggested that people could buy my CD’s through my Ko-Fi to help offset $170 unexpected medical bills.

Keith_M
01-02-2023, 04:56 PM
In eleven days time, this thread will have been on the go for eleven years.

Wishful thinking aside, it looks like we're stuck with the successors to the original Govan Bigots.


Maybe time to close it?

HoboHarry
01-02-2023, 05:44 PM
In eleven days time, this thread will have been on the go for eleven years.

Wishful thinking aside, it looks like we're stuck with the successors to the original Govan Bigots.


Maybe time to close it?
Hell no, that would mean all hope was completely lost.

ErinGoBraghHFC
01-02-2023, 06:01 PM
In eleven days time, this thread will have been on the go for eleven years.

Wishful thinking aside, it looks like we're stuck with the successors to the original Govan Bigots.


Maybe time to close it?

Nah they’re still funny as **** from time to time and the rest of the time downright shameful


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cabbageandribs1875
13-02-2023, 08:44 PM
like father like son Craig Whyte's dodgy dad banned from being company director after fraud probe (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsscotland/craig-whyte-s-dodgy-dad-banned-from-being-company-director-after-fraud-probe/ar-AA17qNMW?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=980b4c9f060e44aba20e8fb0af56e77f)

gbhibby
04-04-2023, 11:09 AM
Notice that they have issued another shed load of shares. Is history repeating itself?

BILLYHIBS
04-04-2023, 11:56 AM
Maybe the face painter can now get paid

HoboHarry
04-04-2023, 12:01 PM
Notice that they have issued another shed load of shares. Is history repeating itself?

Hopefully that lands them in a world of s***e with the new financial guidelines. They are already on the watchlist.

gbhibby
04-04-2023, 12:33 PM
Maybe the face painter can now get paid
🤣🤣🤣

LunasBoots
04-04-2023, 04:45 PM
Park has stepped down

HoboHarry
04-04-2023, 04:51 PM
Park has stepped down
Distancing himself from the club before asking for his loan money back? Or he knows there is a financial s***storm coming from another conflict between share confetti and the new FSR? Butting heads with UEFA isn't going to end well, they don't kowtow to them like the SFA does.

greenginger
04-04-2023, 04:51 PM
Park has stepped down

Has he blown the family fortune on a despicable football club ?

HoboHarry
04-04-2023, 04:52 PM
Has he blown the family fortune on a despicable football club ?
Maybe daddy has finally lost his patience and seen enough money flushed down the toilet.

Billy Whizz
04-04-2023, 05:03 PM
Distancing himself from the club before asking for his loan money back? Or he knows there is a financial s***storm coming from another conflict between share confetti and the new FSR? Butting heads with UEFA isn't going to end well, they don't kowtow to them like the SFA does.

Think the fans have been asking for him to get out anyway, it’s not a happy camp!
How much are his loans worth

O'Rourke3
04-04-2023, 05:07 PM
Think the fans have been asking for him to get out anyway, it’s not a happy camp!
How much are his loans worthGuessing the amount they are trying to raise via new shares...

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CropleyWasGod
04-04-2023, 05:07 PM
Notice that they have issued another shed load of shares. Is history repeating itself?

Not sure it's that much of a story.

In cash terms, at best it's £1.93m. Not a lot in today's game.

However, I suspect it's (at least in part) another debt-for-equity swap. That way, FFP is kept at bay for now.

jacomo
04-04-2023, 05:36 PM
Park has stepped down


Other than wrecking the league’s relationship with its main sponsor, what did he achieve?

gbhibby
04-04-2023, 05:48 PM
Not sure it's that much of a story.

In cash terms, at best it's £1.93m. Not a lot in today's game.

However, I suspect it's (at least in part) another debt-for-equity swap. That way, FFP is kept at bay for now.
Noticed that Crops, I think they did the same last year as well.

HoboHarry
04-04-2023, 06:04 PM
Not sure it's that much of a story.

In cash terms, at best it's £1.93m. Not a lot in today's game.

However, I suspect it's (at least in part) another debt-for-equity swap. That way, FFP is kept at bay for now.
I'm not up to date on all of this but I believe the FSR has superseded the old FFP and my understanding is that clubs are meant to live within their football income and share issues like this aren't included. This smacks of an emergency cash injection to me. They are on the FSR watchlist and I personally think Park is getting out while he can. We'll see, maybe I'm completely wrong (hopefully completely correct) but I just don't believe anything those tramps say and I also believe their must be a damn good reason for Park giving up his throne.

CropleyWasGod
04-04-2023, 06:12 PM
I'm not up to date on all of this but I believe the FSR has superseded the old FFP and my understanding is that clubs are meant to live within their football income and share issues like this aren't included. This smacks of an emergency cash injection to me. They are on the FSR watchlist and I personally think Park is getting out while he can. We'll see, maybe I'm completely wrong (hopefully completely correct) but I just don't believe anything those tramps say and I also believe their must be a damn good reason for Park giving up his throne.

Their latest 6 monthly accounts are out shortly. That could help us understand.

I expect them to be pretty good, given the money from player sales. If they're not, then....:cb

gbhibby
04-04-2023, 08:17 PM
Their latest 6 monthly accounts are out shortly. That could help us understand.

I expect them to be pretty good, given the money from player sales. If they're not, then....:cb

If their accounts are healthy it seems a strange thing to do to dilute the value of the shares,

Carheenlea
10-04-2023, 04:52 PM
The SFA have responded to Rangers complaints about refereeing decisions following Saturdays game.

Is this normal practice?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/scottish-fa-confirm-rangers-response-26668040

Hibernia&Alba
10-04-2023, 05:02 PM
The SFA have responded to Rangers complaints about refereeing decisions following Saturdays game.

Is this normal practice?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/scottish-fa-confirm-rangers-response-26668040

Did Entitled FC make a formal complaint, was it one of their crazy statements or some other method of saying "it isnae fair, we didnae win"?

Bostonhibby
10-04-2023, 05:11 PM
The SFA have responded to Rangers complaints about refereeing decisions following Saturdays game.

Is this normal practice?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/scottish-fa-confirm-rangers-response-26668040Were they demanding that only Beaton and Walsh be allowed to officiate at all Sevco games?

Roasters doesn't cover it......

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Lendo
10-04-2023, 06:38 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65234008

They really are ****.

HoboHarry
13-04-2023, 05:30 PM
Chairman Douglas Park and Sporting Director Ross Wilson both bolted within a week and just around the time the accounts are due I believe. Hope the entire disgrace of an entity is about to go tits up.

Fuzzywuzzy
13-04-2023, 06:21 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65234008

They really are ****.

I used to work with his wife. Really nice woman

04Sauzee
18-04-2023, 04:52 PM
BREAKING! Rangers issue 3 million new shares as Ibrox club create cash boost opportunity

bit.ly/3GTvZNK

Billy Whizz
18-04-2023, 05:08 PM
BREAKING! Rangers issue 3 million new shares as Ibrox club create cash boost opportunity

bit.ly/3GTvZNK

Is this on top of the one from 2/3 weeks ago?

HoboHarry
18-04-2023, 05:19 PM
Is this on top of the one from 2/3 weeks ago?
If it is then I'd be willing to bet money it's to fill another financial hole. Hopefully they've attracted the attention of FSR (again) and they get banned from Europe next year.

04Sauzee
18-04-2023, 05:28 PM
Is this on top of the one from 2/3 weeks ago?

It is indeed

HoboHarry
18-04-2023, 05:33 PM
It is indeed
I'm struggling to see anything other than they are living off fumes at this time. God I hope so.

tamig
18-04-2023, 05:36 PM
I wonder if they issue certificates and if its cash only 🤔

Ozyhibby
18-04-2023, 05:58 PM
I'm struggling to see anything other than they are living off fumes at this time. God I hope so.

Like last time, the real crunch will come of they miss out on euro group stages.


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HoboHarry
18-04-2023, 06:05 PM
Like last time, the real crunch will come of they miss out on euro group stages.


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I prefer to hope that these confetti share issues puts them in further trouble with FSR and they are refused entry into European competition completely.

007
18-04-2023, 06:13 PM
Colin Beattie announced as their new FD!

gbhibby
18-04-2023, 08:47 PM
Looked at Follow Follow and there are a number of their fans questioning what is going on with their club finances.

CyberSauzee
19-04-2023, 05:31 AM
Looked at Follow Follow and there are a number of their fans questioning what is going on with their club finances.

11+ years too late for the original club. Once bitten twice as stupid.

Bostonhibby
19-04-2023, 07:11 AM
Looked at Follow Follow and there are a number of their fans questioning what is going on with their club finances.If I was them I'd probably walk away again, and say that this latest version of their club isn't rangers any more either.


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gbhibby
19-04-2023, 08:20 AM
Whats CropleyWasGod take on this?
I wonder how much the had to pay to GVB and his management team when they sacked him, this could have been a big hit to monies made from Europe.

Smartie
19-04-2023, 09:23 AM
Whats CropleyWasGod take on this?
I wonder how much the had to pay to GVB and his management team when they sacked him, this could have been a big hit to monies made from Europe.

Whilst losing a manager in that way is costly and undesirable, I'd expect that it would probably be less significant for a club with Sevco's income and expenditure than it would for the likes of Hibs.

I expect they've probably borrowed a shedload on their "way up" on the promise that those who lent would be paid back when they're winning the league, getting to the finals of European competitions etc, only for them to want to spend the money they've earned via those routes on better players instead of paying their due moneys. That leads to a position where you have more going out than coming in (again) and shortfalls in cash that can be plugged in creative ways that only certain clubs ever seem to be willing / able to do.

Kato
19-04-2023, 10:50 AM
Is this on top of the one from 2/3 weeks ago?It's an investment for the future, they will soon be able to pay debts from the past.

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CropleyWasGod
19-04-2023, 12:32 PM
Whats CropleyWasGod take on this?
I wonder how much the had to pay to GVB and his management team when they sacked him, this could have been a big hit to monies made from Europe.

I'm keeping my powder dry until the accounts come out. I am curious as to why there have been 2 (relatively minor) separate share issues in just a few weeks. Can't think why they weren't combined.

HoboHarry
19-04-2023, 12:35 PM
I'm keeping my powder dry until the accounts come out. I am curious as to why there have been 2 (relatively minor) separate share issues in just a few weeks. Can't think why they weren't combined.
Thought the accounts were out last week? I didn't read them (I wouldn't be able to understand them anyway :) ) but I thought I had read they were show a loss again?

HoboHarry
19-04-2023, 12:36 PM
I'm keeping my powder dry until the accounts come out. I am curious as to why there have been 2 (relatively minor) separate share issues in just a few weeks. Can't think why they weren't combined.
Phil Mac provided a link to them last week...

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/companies_house_document-THE-RANGERS-FC-MARCH-2023.pdf

CropleyWasGod
19-04-2023, 12:39 PM
Phil Mac provided a link to them last week...

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/companies_house_document-THE-RANGERS-FC-MARCH-2023.pdf

These have been out for a while.

There are 6-monthly accounts due, IIRC.

HoboHarry
19-04-2023, 12:41 PM
These have been out for a while.

There are 6-monthly accounts due, IIRC.
Even though the first page shows a date stamp of March 31st?

CropleyWasGod
19-04-2023, 12:47 PM
Even though the first page shows a date stamp of March 31st?

We're talking about 2 different things, I think.

The ones you posted are for the football club. The ones with the share issue etc are for Rangers International, which will give a better overall picture. It's the latter that are due to publish 6 monthly accounts.

HoboHarry
19-04-2023, 12:51 PM
We're talking about 2 different things, I think.

The ones you posted are for the football club. The ones with the share issue etc are for Rangers International, which will give a better overall picture. It's the latter that are due to publish 6 monthly accounts.
Ah right, serves me right for commenting on things I don't understand. I'll get back to Autocad presently...... :greengrin

CropleyWasGod
19-04-2023, 12:55 PM
Ah right, serves me right for commenting on things I don't understand. I'll get back to Autocad presently...... :greengrin

Scool. They boozle the bam out of me sometimes, too :greengrin

gbhibby
19-04-2023, 06:04 PM
Even though the first page shows a date stamp of March 31st?

Was that not the accounts to 30 June 2022. If they have issues with their finances they may not publish a 6 month accounts. Hope they go bust again, they will only have themselves to blame.

CropleyWasGod
19-04-2023, 06:07 PM
Was that not the accounts to 30 June 2022. If they have issues with their finances they may not publish a 6 month accounts. Hope they go bust again, they will only have themselves to blame.

Not an expert in PLC's, but I'm pretty sure they have to.

weecounty hibby
19-04-2023, 06:15 PM
I get childishly excited when I see this thread at the top of the page again. Sadly there are too many very rich huns that means they'll probably never die completely. They are light years behind celtic on and off the park though. I'm not sure they'll ever catch up. They chucked every available penny at stopping 10 in a row failing to grasp that all they've done is leave it at 1 league win in 11 years, might even get to 1 in 20 years or more. Anyway **** them, in a fair world they would disappear and never been seen again

HoboHarry
19-04-2023, 06:22 PM
I get childishly excited when I see this thread at the top of the page again. Sadly there are too many very rich huns that means they'll probably never die completely. They are light years behind celtic on and off the park though. I'm not sure they'll ever catch up. They chucked every available penny at stopping 10 in a row failing to grasp that all they've done is leave it at 1 league win in 11 years, might even get to 1 in 20 years or more. Anyway **** them, in a fair world they would disappear and never been seen again
The bit that I don't get is why people who were clever and astute enough to become super wealthy are then prepared to throw away good money chasing bad trying to keep that mob afloat. Seems to be that liking that mob activates the reckless button in their collective heads. As wildly reckless with money as Sevco have shown themselves to be, those super wealthy types aren't going to make vast fortunes from a football team in Scotland and they must know that from the start.

Smartie
19-04-2023, 07:27 PM
Should they not be relatively cash rich at this stage of the season though? Going by those accounts, the money coming through the turnstiles is still a huge proportion of their income - and much of that will be via season tickets, a high proportion of which they’ll have already received the cash for.

If they’re needing to raise cash in this way at this stage then surely that’s concerning for them?

In that they’re surely only another early European exit away from being in big trouble? (They’ve raised a good few quid via some very respectable European performances under Gerrard and GVB).

Jones28
19-04-2023, 07:31 PM
They’re just doing the “for every fiver, we’ll spend a tenner” thing again, but being less blatant about where they get the money from.

And it’s also not working.

HoboHarry
19-04-2023, 07:44 PM
Should they not be relatively cash rich at this stage of the season though? Going by those accounts, the money coming through the turnstiles is still a huge proportion of their income - and much of that will be via season tickets, a high proportion of which they’ll have already received the cash for.

If they’re needing to raise cash in this way at this stage then surely that’s concerning for them?

In that they’re surely only another early European exit away from being in big trouble? (They’ve raised a good few quid via some very respectable European performances under Gerrard and GVB).
Obviously I'm not in the know but everything about this smacks of them being in financial **** street. The fact that Ross Wilson and the Supreme Leader Douglas Park both bolted within a week does (I hope) mean that they know what's coming down the pike. Hopefully they are again in breach of the FSR and are close to being banned from Europe. Hell mend them, I hope they go bust. Again.

Torto7
20-04-2023, 01:00 PM
Should they not be relatively cash rich at this stage of the season though? Going by those accounts, the money coming through the turnstiles is still a huge proportion of their income - and much of that will be via season tickets, a high proportion of which they’ll have already received the cash for.

If they’re needing to raise cash in this way at this stage then surely that’s concerning for them?

In that they’re surely only another early European exit away from being in big trouble? (They’ve raised a good few quid via some very respectable European performances under Gerrard and GVB).

Pretty much. They're follow following the same gamblers strategy Whyte etc tried. They also lack assets to sell and the ones they do have are either too old or out of contract soon. None of this matters to the bigoted press though. Ra Ranjurs have a right to avoid Fiscal fair play all in the name of keeping the sectarian gravy train running. They're like Hearts more obsessed with the opposition rather than their own club. If they had built the newco back up with youth and accepted Celtic are a bigger and better run football club then they might have been in a position to put in a longer term challenge by now/Instead they gave Stevie G(friend of the Kinahans) carte blanch to spend on utter pish. It was miraculous how he got a bunch of well in to their 30s footballers running around like Russians at the 2018 world cup.

Billy Whizz
20-04-2023, 01:05 PM
Do you think any of these Rangers directors are buying these at this price, so when it’s eventually sold they’ll make a small fortune on their shares?

Or are they only keeping The Rangers alive

HoboHarry
20-04-2023, 01:11 PM
Do you think any of these Rangers directors are buying these at this price, so when it’s eventually sold they’ll make a small fortune on their shares?

Or are they only keeping The Rangers alive
None of them are getting their money back, looks to me that they are simply keeping the lights on at this point.

weecounty hibby
20-04-2023, 01:13 PM
None of them are getting their money back, looks to me that they are simply keeping the lights on at this point.

Probably why Park has walked way! He has ploughed through a fair amount of cash and will now be thinking its time some other of the brethren dig deep.

HoboHarry
20-04-2023, 01:15 PM
Probably why Park has walked way! He has ploughed through a fair amount of cash and will now be thinking its time some other of the brethren dig deep.
Or he's looked up and noticed the FSR train headlights heading towards them. I hope so anyway.

weecounty hibby
20-04-2023, 01:24 PM
Or he's looked up and noticed the FSR train headlights heading towards them. I hope so anyway.

Fingers crossed

Billy Whizz
20-04-2023, 01:34 PM
None of them are getting their money back, looks to me that they are simply keeping the lights on at this point.

Ok, but I thought a few of them got money back in the last year or so

HoboHarry
20-04-2023, 01:51 PM
Ok, but I thought a few of them got money back in the last year or so
Not sure there were were a few but I could be wrong on that. The Lying King certainly had a loan repaid but it was reported that he had threatened them with legal action. Probably a share issue that paid for that lol.....

04Sauzee
20-04-2023, 03:49 PM
BREAKING: Rangers multi-million court case over Hummel kit deal goes ahead as Elite administrators confirm action WILL proceed

thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football…

weecounty hibby
20-04-2023, 03:50 PM
BREAKING: Rangers multi-million court case over Hummel kit deal goes ahead as Elite administrators confirm action WILL proceed

thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football…

Hurrah. Could this see them losing even more money? 🤞🤞🤞

JohnM1875
20-04-2023, 03:55 PM
Hurrah. Could this see them losing even more money? 🤞🤞🤞

Probably explains the latest share nonsense earlier in the week. Just guessing though obviously!

blackpoolhibs
20-04-2023, 03:58 PM
BREAKING: Rangers multi-million court case over Hummel kit deal goes ahead as Elite administrators confirm action WILL proceed

thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football…

I read that as administration will proceed, a little wee came out in excitement. :greengrin

HoboHarry
20-04-2023, 04:01 PM
Probably explains the latest share nonsense earlier in the week. Just guessing though obviously!
The share issue was probably too small to be a factor but it might explain why Supreme Leader Park bolted so abruptly.

HoboHarry
20-04-2023, 04:04 PM
BREAKING: Rangers multi-million court case over Hummel kit deal goes ahead as Elite administrators confirm action WILL proceed

thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football…
That link is taking me to a story about Michael Beale so here's another link...

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10547857/rangers-court-case-hummel-kit-deal-elite-administrators-castore/

Keith_M
20-04-2023, 06:53 PM
Seeing as we're just talking abut money, I thought I'd get a bit of actual football in by re-posting this lovely wee image...


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:greengrin

Billy Whizz
25-04-2023, 04:19 PM
Good riddance, another dinosaur gone

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23480534.stewart-robertson-rangers-exit-reveal-james-bisgrove-appointed-ceo/

HoboHarry
25-04-2023, 04:27 PM
Good riddance, another dinosaur gone

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23480534.stewart-robertson-rangers-exit-reveal-james-bisgrove-appointed-ceo/
That is a monumental decision and I'm going to say again that there is something seriously afoot at Sevco. Whatever I or anyone else think of them, he was probably the most sensible head in their boardroom and within a month they've lost their Chairman, managing director and DOF. They are bailing out before the **** really hits the fan IMHO. **** them and I hope they go bust.

Smartie
25-04-2023, 05:03 PM
That is a monumental decision and I'm going to say again that there is something seriously afoot at Sevco. Whatever I or anyone else think of them, he was probably the most sensible head in their boardroom and within a month they've lost their Chairman, managing director and DOF. They are bailing out before the **** really hits the fan IMHO. **** them and I hope they go bust.

There’s a lot written about Rangers but my feelings could be perfectly summed up by your last sentence.

007
25-04-2023, 06:10 PM
Good riddance, another dinosaur gone

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23480534.stewart-robertson-rangers-exit-reveal-james-bisgrove-appointed-ceo/

Their man on the inside at the SPFL Board during the (non) smoking gun dossier period.

Torto7
25-04-2023, 07:34 PM
Do they still have the ex DUP bigot working for them? The orange order must be loaded as they're being bussed into Scotland regularly for marches. Since 2014 there's been a huge surge in marches. Someone's money is paying for that. Maybe Rangers can get some of that leftover dirty Russian money from Brexit campaigning. I'd love to see them go tits up again.