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Dan Sarf
20-01-2015, 10:48 AM
"Rangers midfielder to follow Macleod?
Rangers midfielder Arnold Peralta has been linked with a move to Brentford, following in the footsteps of former teammate Lewis Macleod. With Rangers needing to raise funds due to their financial woes, it is likely that they will have to offload players this transfer window. Peralta is a strong, quick winger, who will inject some added pace to the team."
Brentford Fans Site

PatHead
20-01-2015, 10:50 AM
According to Scotzine there are rumours Chuckles Green's been arrested. Not sure my bladder can take much more this week.

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

The the Hun next door was saying that he had heard this on Swallow, swallow, arrested in France.

Weststandwanab
20-01-2015, 10:53 AM
The the Hun next door was saying that he had heard this on Swallow, swallow, arrested in France.

It is all over twitter.

PatHead
20-01-2015, 11:09 AM
It is all over twitter.

To be honest couldn't care if it is true or not as he has already raped the place. The money will be salted away so even in the event of a court deciding he had to repay it the damage is never going to be sorted.That would take years anyway.

Suppose the good thing is it will give the hoards a little bit of hope.

Spike Mandela
20-01-2015, 11:14 AM
This really is the thread that keeps on giving.:aok:

Weststandwanab
20-01-2015, 11:17 AM
To be honest couldn't care if it is true or not as he has already raped the place. The money will be salted away so even in the event of a court deciding he had to repay it the damage is never going to be sorted.That would take years anyway.

Suppose the good thing is it will give the hoards a little bit of hope.

Me neither but anything that may make Sevco perform badly on the field I am all for.

Iain G
20-01-2015, 11:19 AM
This really is the thread that keeps on giving.:aok:

A hun meltdown is not just for Christmas :-)

marti1875
20-01-2015, 11:20 AM
I saw this doing the rounds on my Facebook page earlier! Now it's clearly a piss take but it's also so like one of them it could actually be real!! hilarious all the same. Love the bit just before the chorus where he says "here we f****** go" :greengrin

http://youtu.be/m6vYBfEJWUs

PatHead
20-01-2015, 11:30 AM
To be honest couldn't care if it is true or not as he has already raped the place. The money will be salted away so even in the event of a court deciding he had to repay it the damage is never going to be sorted.That would take years anyway.

Suppose the good thing is it will give the hoards a little bit of hope.

Another guy in the office said, "hope they get a penny in the pound, it will let them know how their creditors feel"

Many a true word said in jest.

Bostonhibby
20-01-2015, 11:31 AM
I saw this doing the rounds on my Facebook page earlier! Now it's clearly a piss take but it's also so like one of them it could actually be real!! hilarious all the same. Love the bit just before the chorus where he says "here we f****** go" :greengrin

http://youtu.be/m6vYBfEJWUs
WTF is it with these gumbies? If they truly believe that they can sing their way to salvation surely wee wullie blue nose remains their best chance?

Off the bar
20-01-2015, 12:20 PM
It is all over twitter.

just had a browse through twitter, no reliable source giving this news, but lots of people making fun of his 'big hands' anyone able to explain wtf that is about?

Newry Hibs
20-01-2015, 12:52 PM
I saw this doing the rounds on my Facebook page earlier! Now it's clearly a piss take but it's also so like one of them it could actually be real!! hilarious all the same. Love the bit just before the chorus where he says "here we f****** go" :greengrin

http://youtu.be/m6vYBfEJWUs

You sure about that?

patlowe
20-01-2015, 01:00 PM
"Rangers midfielder to follow Macleod?
Rangers midfielder Arnold Peralta has been linked with a move to Brentford, following in the footsteps of former teammate Lewis Macleod. With Rangers needing to raise funds due to their financial woes, it is likely that they will have to offload players this transfer window. Peralta is a strong, quick winger, who will inject some added pace to the team."
Brentford Fans Site

Am very surprised this guy is getting a move to the English Championship, if true. He couldn't get a game for an average Rangers team and when he did (against us), he was absolutely honking.

Why is no-one coming in for Law, Wallace etc? I want to see this team ransacked!

Weststandwanab
20-01-2015, 01:19 PM
just had a browse through twitter, no reliable source giving this news, but lots of people making fun of his 'big hands' anyone able to explain wtf that is about?

I just said I was on Twitter not that there was any merit or truth in the matter nor that I new what was going on.


You sure about that?

Good call.


Am very surprised this guy is getting a move to the English Championship, if true. He couldn't get a game for an average Rangers team and when he did (against us), he was absolutely honking.

Why is no-one coming in for Law, Wallace etc? I want to see this team ransacked!

Brinkmanship they will wait as late as possible in the hope of getting a cheaper deal when Sevco cannot pay wages on 29th,in my opinion

Spike Mandela
20-01-2015, 01:48 PM
Apparently the old cad is in a London hospital.....

https://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/blog/

Turkish Green
20-01-2015, 01:57 PM
Why is no-one coming in for Law, Wallace etc? I want to see this team ransacked!

You've seen these guys play this season. They have been honking, even if Wallace has been less honking than most. Free transfers maybe, but why would any club spend money on any of them.

Plus they are probably on top dollar at Ibroke and happy to stay for the money, after all that's why they went there in the first place.

ballengeich
20-01-2015, 02:05 PM
just had a browse through twitter, no reliable source giving this news, but lots of people making fun of his 'big hands' anyone able to explain wtf that is about?

When Green was still a hero at Ibrox, he made a speech in which he said that God had given Yorkshiremen "Big Hands" so that they could shovel up large sums of money.

The joke is that while Sevco's fans were hurling abuse at other teams' supporters for telling them what Green was going to do, he even told them himself.

southsider
20-01-2015, 02:20 PM
When Green was still a hero at Ibrox, he made a speech in which he said that God had given Yorkshiremen "Big Hands" so that they could shovel up large sums of money.

The joke is that while Sevco's fans were hurling abuse at other teams' supporters for telling them what Green was going to do, he even told them himself.

Priceless ! Now, about King. He was a director when they went tits-up. Why, if he is worth £40 zillion, did he not just pay the creditors and save the club from liquidation ? He needs to be asked.

Off the bar
20-01-2015, 02:23 PM
When Green was still a hero at Ibrox, he made a speech in which he said that God had given Yorkshiremen "Big Hands" so that they could shovel up large sums of money.

The joke is that while Sevco's fans were hurling abuse at other teams' supporters for telling them what Green was going to do, he even told them himself.

cheers :aok:

blackpoolhibs
20-01-2015, 02:38 PM
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Turkish Green
20-01-2015, 02:42 PM
Apparently the old cad is in a London hospital.....

https://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/blog/

Must be another Charles Vert that was arrested.

jacomo
20-01-2015, 03:04 PM
Priceless ! Now, about King. He was a director when they went tits-up. Why, if he is worth £40 zillion, did he not just pay the creditors and save the club from liquidation ? He needs to be asked.

I think it was because he was having a few difficulties with the South African authorities at the time. May have prevented him 'swooping in' from his South African base.

blackpoolhibs
20-01-2015, 03:16 PM
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Andy74
20-01-2015, 04:03 PM
Poor Charles Green.

Andy74
20-01-2015, 04:06 PM
Rod Petrie demanded stripping of titles etc according to Green.

Spike Mandela
20-01-2015, 04:18 PM
Charles Green hitting out at everyone ha ha. The sevconians will be restless tonight on social media. He sure knows how to play them like a fiddle:greengrin

green glory
20-01-2015, 05:53 PM
Hilarious stuff from Green. Was disappointed to learn he wasn't arrested after all. Then this... http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//9653921



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Hibby Kay-Yay
20-01-2015, 06:17 PM
Hilarious stuff from Green. Was disappointed to learn he wasn't arrested after all. Then this... http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//9653921



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:greengrin:na na:

blackpoolhibs
20-01-2015, 06:20 PM
Hilarious stuff from Green. Was disappointed to learn he wasn't arrested after all. Then this... http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//9653921



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****in hell i nearly posted he looks a bit like Sid James. :greengrin

Bishop Hibee
20-01-2015, 06:58 PM
The interview with Green is hilarious. Amazed newco fans son't want him back given all the good he claims to have done the club! That guy Petrie seems decent though...

Iain G
20-01-2015, 07:33 PM
The interview with Green is hilarious. Amazed newco fans son't want him back given all the good he claims to have done the club! That guy Petrie seems decent though...

Hard to work out which one of those involved is the biggest crook / biggest bullsh***er / biggest liar and teller of whopping tall tales / biggest egomanic / most delusional, its a helluva list to choose from:

David Murray
Craig Whyte
Charles Green
The Easydale Boys
Dave King
The Bare Faced Three
Fat Ally
Paul Murray?
John Brown

Am sure there are more?!

Mike Ashley looks like saint compared to this bunch...

Deansy
20-01-2015, 07:40 PM
Hilarious stuff from Green. Was disappointed to learn he wasn't arrested after all. Then this... http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//9653921



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Notice he didn't answer Whyte's question of how much he took out of them, waffled on about his salary/contract etc - unsurprisingly Whyte didn't follow it up !


P.s Is the NHS gown to give the impression he's not at some expensive, private hospital with all that lovely wonga he ..................... he seems to have ?

seanshow
20-01-2015, 09:43 PM
Rod Petrie demanded stripping of titles etc according to Green.

That must have been the Hilton @ the airport meeting when they were clocked using a conference room or something?

The tache playing the sporting integrity card, but Charlieboy wasn't buyin it....so der hun ended up at the ar$e of scottish football lookin for an invite back in.

greenginger
21-01-2015, 01:23 PM
The Rangers getting their knickers in a twist over the security for Big Mike's bail-out


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30917103

Now, IIRC the Rangers fighting fund was set up to fight for Rangers Football Club not against them ! :confused:

Jack Hackett
21-01-2015, 03:33 PM
The Rangers getting their knickers in a twist over the security for Big Mike's bail-out


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30917103

Now, IIRC the Rangers fighting fund was set up to fight for Rangers Football Club not against them ! :confused:

They seem to have lost sight of the fact that it's a loan. What do they think he's going to do with it....dismantle it and ship it over to Newcastle?

Pay back the loan and there's no problem.....Oh! Wait a minute....:greengrin

greenginger
21-01-2015, 03:43 PM
They seem to have lost sight of the fact that it's a loan. What do they think he's going to do with it....dismantle it and ship it over to Newcastle?

Pay back the loan and there's no problem.....Oh! Wait a minute....:greengrin


What's the scrap steel tonnage rates like just now ?

Are Murray Metals still trading. :greengrin

ancient hibee
21-01-2015, 04:15 PM
Paul Murray wants Rangers to return "to a stable financial position".Would this be any relation to the Paul Murray who sat on Rangers board while it went bust?

snedzuk
21-01-2015, 05:55 PM
interesting article here on Dave King

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30911000

cabbageandribs1875
21-01-2015, 11:51 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-30922826

Rangers director Sandy Easdale has said police are investigating threats made against him amid the ongoing and acrimonious battle for the Ibrox club.
Officers are believed to be monitoring his home after internet posts allegedly urged fans to attack his house in a bid to remove him from the club.



the keyboard warriors are out in force

portycabbage
22-01-2015, 12:03 AM
Ashley rumoured to be getting together money for the loan (I assume the rest is for the petty cash tin)

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/markets/market-report-ashley-sells-a-slice-of-sports-direct-to-spark-rangers-lifeline-rumours-9992832.html

Deansy
22-01-2015, 12:59 AM
interesting article here on Dave King

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30911000


Tom English - 'He (King) has given the fans a vision of a better future. God knows, they deserve it)

Yeah Tom, poor old Huns - the absolute darling-supporters of Scottish Football !!. Loved everywhere they go (as the people of Manchester, Dublin, Birmingham and countless other cities throughout Europe will attest to) for their geniality, warmth of spirit and exemplary conduct !. Other club's supporters deserve nothing compared to them. It's not their fault the powers-that-be at Ibrox decided to cheat for (xxxxx years ??) using money they didn't have, buying league-titles, cups, European-places that could've went to the stupid, honest Scottish-clubs. Nor were they responsible for the anti-Catholic sectarian-policy their club lived by for over a century !. Oh no, their fans have suffered enough and now they deserve a break !!


Aaaaaaaaargh - words fail me - is Tom English trying to replace Jim Traynor !!

Springbank
22-01-2015, 05:29 AM
interesting article here on Dave King

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30911000

This article is like a Wikipedia definition factory

Mendacious - sums up Rangers perfectly

A glib &shameless liar - a Rangers supporter

ano hibby
22-01-2015, 06:32 AM
Can't do a link but Alex Thomson the C4 journalist has also written on King

grunt
22-01-2015, 07:14 AM
Can't do a link but Alex Thomson the C4 journalist has also written on Kinghttp://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/dave-king-deserve-chance-rangers/8819

Does Dave King deserve a second chance at Rangers?

So is he the Messiah? God alone knows. But he most definitely has been a very naughty boy – and when it comes to Rangers FC then Monty Python is as good a frame of reference as anything else these days.
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2015/01/21_rangers_w.jpg (http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2015/01/21_rangers_w.jpg)
For perhaps only Cleese, Palin, Idle et al could come up with the current potential hattrick for the stricken club.
Tax own goal 1 : Sir David Murray’s tenure at Ibrox results in years of legal wrangling over whether the club (where the bosses paid no income tax) was avoiding or evading income tax. That one rolls on and on.
Tax own-goal 2 : Craig Whyte’s tenure after Murray where tax issues resulted in the police being called in; him being banned from Scottish football for life and the club restarting several leagues lower in the Scottish football league system. Scottish Police say the investigation continues.
Tax own-goal 3 and the possible hattrick?
Enter Dave King as would-be Rangers saviour from all this nonsense once and for all.
And he could be. He just could be… He’s a man of means. Rangers to the core and makes all the noises a lot of fans want to hear.
TaxJust one issue though – yup – tax. The very naughty boy bit.
Dave King is a convicted tax cheat and now wants to own – of all things in the land – Rangers, probably the most tax-toxic sporting institution in Britain.
So given this blog is largely for those outwith Govan, Glasgow – indeed Scotland – it is worth reviewing the Dave King charge sheet.
In August 2013 a 13-year battle with the South African taxman ended with King pleading guilty to 41 charges at Gauteng High Court in South Africa.
King was fined R80,000 (about £4500) on each charge, totalling R3.28 million (about £187,000). The convictions relate to contravening the Income Tax Act; wilful failure to make required disclosures in annual income tax returns and failure to submit tax returns for two of his companies Metlika and Ben Nevis.
Further, King agreed to pay a Criminal Assets Recovery demand of R8.75 million (£499,000) within 30 days.
The South African Revenue Service (SARS) sought recovery of R706.7 million (£40,281,000) from an indictment of 322 charges relating to fraud, tax evasion, exchange control requirements, money laundering and racketeering.
It is worth returning again at this point to the words of the South African judge Brian Southwood a few years earlier in King’s long battle against the taxman. Judge Southwood said the unanimous opinion of the High Court was that Dave King:
“…is a mendacious witness whose evidence should not be accepted on any issue…”
that King;
“…showed no sign of embarrassment or any emotion when he conceded that he had lied to the (SARS) commissioner in a number of his income tax returns. In our assessment, he is a glib and shameless liar.”
Lesson learned?Returning to Glasgow recently and poised to try and control the club, King says he has learned his lesson and all this behind him.
So Scottish football may now have its very own Ched Evans syndrome. Should a man with a past be given a second chance to have a high-profile position in (potentially) big-money football?
Of course many will rightly point out that rape is not tax-dodging. King pleaded guilty, Evans did not. King speaks of remorse, Evans speaks of denial. An on-pitch star cannot be compared to an off-pitch suit when it comes to being a role model.
All true – but then again of all the clubs it is Rangers – and the issue is tax.
That has to take the issue straight to questions of governance and the words ‘fit’, ‘proper’ and ‘person’ in the mind of any reasonable onlooker who cares about probity in the game – or safeguarding what remains of it in money-driven big football.
So what will happen? For the time being nothing. King wants the current board out. Current board wants in and ain’t for budging. But if…if…there should be a change of directorship then that would trigger notification to the SFA’s professional game board which would indeed discuss words like ‘fit’ and ‘proper’. Hopefully in depth.
Or they may do so and pass it all on up to the full board of the SFA in due course. The board or PGB must weigh the pros, (that presumably King would still be trading; still working as a director quite legally and not disbarred by any trading authority along with all mitigation), against the obvious cons that a man with this kind of form should not be let loose at Ibrox nor anywhere else in football.
In a sport where money talks ever louder, that might not be the easy and obvious judgement those for and against King are quick to make, with all the usual passion.
It could be that Mr King should be given a second chance. But surely only if the governing body, the PGB/SFA, runs a serious slide-rule over what is at stake here and endeavours to nail down the promises King has made to fans along with his colourful past.
Failure here means an unspeakable hattrick for Ibrox and the credibility of the SFA absolutely on the line. Should it come to it, they will need to get into, and all over King and be seen to do so, for the good of themselves, of Ibrox and of the game
But like I say, right now all the SFA needs to do and should do – is nothing.

- See more at: http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/dave-king-deserve-chance-rangers/8819#sthash.4dmWTV0f.dpuf

Aldo
22-01-2015, 08:39 AM
Looks like der Hun have fallen out with Raith over tickets..........

RAGING Rangers are at war with Raith Rovers over their refusal to hand over tickets for next month’s league clash at Stark’s Park.

The Fifers have decided to sell away briefs directly to the Light Blue legions over fears they could be left out of pocket if the Ibrox club financially implodes again.

And that has left Rangers furious with their Championship rivals ahead of the February 20 fixture between the sides.

Rovers are worried about the dwindling cash reserves at Ibrox and announced yesterday they would handle the sale of tickets for away fans.

Rangers’ financial troubles sparked a similar row in December 2011 when Celtic demanded cash up front for derby briefs. Hoops chiefs feared they would lose out on £350,000 if their rivals went into administration and now Raith Rovers have similar concerns.

Ordinarily the Fife club would hand over a ticket allocation to Rangers who would then sell on to their own fans before reimbursing Rovers at a later date.

However, the Stark’s Park club are worried Rangers may find themselves unable to fulfil their financial obligations due to the ongoing turmoil at the club.

Rangers required an emergency loan of £500,000 from director Sandy Easdale to avoid being wound up by HMRC earlier this month.

The club have since made it clear further funds are urgently required, with Mike Ashley enraging Gers fans by offering a loan of £10million using Ibrox and Murray Park as security .

As a result of the continuing uncertainty Raith have decided to ditch the normal conventions and will sell the tickets directly.

A Rangers spokesperson said: “The club are in discussions with Raith Rovers on this matter.”


Well done Rovers. Stick to your guns.

Dan Sarf
22-01-2015, 08:56 AM
Looks like der Hun have fallen out with Raith over tickets..........

RAGING Rangers are at war with Raith Rovers over their refusal to hand over tickets for next month’s league clash at Stark’s Park.

The Fifers have decided to sell away briefs directly to the Light Blue legions over fears they could be left out of pocket if the Ibrox club financially implodes again.

And that has left Rangers furious with their Championship rivals ahead of the February 20 fixture between the sides.

Rovers are worried about the dwindling cash reserves at Ibrox and announced yesterday they would handle the sale of tickets for away fans.

Rangers’ financial troubles sparked a similar row in December 2011 when Celtic demanded cash up front for derby briefs. Hoops chiefs feared they would lose out on £350,000 if their rivals went into administration and now Raith Rovers have similar concerns.

Ordinarily the Fife club would hand over a ticket allocation to Rangers who would then sell on to their own fans before reimbursing Rovers at a later date.

However, the Stark’s Park club are worried Rangers may find themselves unable to fulfil their financial obligations due to the ongoing turmoil at the club.

Rangers required an emergency loan of £500,000 from director Sandy Easdale to avoid being wound up by HMRC earlier this month.

The club have since made it clear further funds are urgently required, with Mike Ashley enraging Gers fans by offering a loan of £10million using Ibrox and Murray Park as security .

As a result of the continuing uncertainty Raith have decided to ditch the normal conventions and will sell the tickets directly.

A Rangers spokesperson said: “The club are in discussions with Raith Rovers on this matter.”


Well done Rovers. Stick to your guns.

Well said. The Rangers are a bunch of ’s

greenginger
22-01-2015, 04:09 PM
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=14197


Now their goalie has been charged with betting on football matches.

HoboHarry
22-01-2015, 04:16 PM
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=14197


Now their goalie has been charged with betting on football matches.

Lol. Maybe he was a runner for Ian black. Har de har har....

worcesterhibby
23-01-2015, 10:45 AM
Interesting to see that Raith Rovers are selling tickets direct to Rangers fans, rather than via the club as they are concerned about getting paid. I wonder if we will get the payment for the 4-0 game in a timely manner from Rangers and if we will consider selling direct to fans for the match due to take place at ER on 21st march

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30946702

I believe payments are due about a month following the match so we should be getting paid by Rangers in the next week or so. Alloa should have been paid by Rangers for their away tickets for their 10th January match about 10 days ago..I wonder if they are still waiting and have tipped off Raith about the problem ??

grunt
23-01-2015, 11:13 AM
Alloa should have been paid by Rangers for their away tickets for their 10th January match about 10 days ago..I wonder if they are still waiting and have tipped off Raith about the problem ??That's what journalists are for, to find out these things.

worcesterhibby
23-01-2015, 12:28 PM
That's what journalists are for, to find out these things.

No journalists are generally there to feed whatever line they get from agents, and Rangers and Hearts.

bingo70
23-01-2015, 06:55 PM
See that they've confirmed that ibrox won't be getting used as security now. I'd have thought that means the loan from Ashley is off but some journalist from the BBC, Alasdair Lamont, has just tweeted the opposite and now thinks the loan is imminent.

Anyone able to explain that?

greenginger
23-01-2015, 07:23 PM
See that they've confirmed that ibrox won't be getting used as security now. I'd have thought that means the loan from Ashley is off but some journalist from the BBC, Alasdair Lamont, has just tweeted the opposite and now thinks the loan is imminent.

Anyone able to explain that?


Well there was a story going about a few weeks ago that Rangers did not have clear title to Ibrox , so it could not be used for security, but that I'm sure was just nasty Rangers haters at it ! :greengrin

A smaller loan and the training ground as security maybe.

Bostonhibby
23-01-2015, 09:29 PM
Well there was a story going about a few weeks ago that Rangers did not have clear title to Ibrox , so it could not be used for security, but that I'm sure was just nasty Rangers haters at it ! :greengrin

A smaller loan and the training ground as security maybe.

What, a charge over it from some dodgy off shore trust? surely not? not when the club has passed through such fit and proper hands as Cheeky Charlie Green and Craig Whyte, to name but a few :wink:

PatHead
23-01-2015, 09:33 PM
What, a charge over it from some dodgy off shore trust? surely not? not when the club has passed through such fit and proper hands as Cheeky Charlie Green and Craig Whyte, to name but a few :wink:

Don't forget the original David Murray.

Bostonhibby
23-01-2015, 09:37 PM
Don't forget the original David Murray.

:agree: Keep em coming :greengrin

greenginger
23-01-2015, 09:53 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/23/sports-direct-owner-mike-ashley-debenhams

Looks like Ashleys cash raising was not to provide Ranger's manager with a warcheast.

Oops, forgot they've not got a manager. :greengrin

Ronniekirk
23-01-2015, 11:29 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/23/sports-direct-owner-mike-ashley-debenhams

Looks like Ashleys cash raising was not to provide Ranger's manager with a warcheast.

Oops, forgot they've not got a manager. :greengrin

Maybe he wants to have Rocha J Rocha design Thier new Strip and sell them in Debenhams :confused:

Bostonhibby
24-01-2015, 08:50 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/23/sports-direct-owner-mike-ashley-debenhams

Looks like Ashleys cash raising was not to provide Ranger's manager with a warcheast.

Oops, forgot they've not got a manager. :greengrin

They've been a target of his before - maybe proof to the sevconian hordes that big Mike doesn't do walking away?

greenginger
26-01-2015, 10:20 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30989922


Ashley taking the p*** out of football authorities.

Their lawyers need more time to build their case. :confused:

Jim44
27-01-2015, 06:30 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30989922


Ashley taking the p*** out of football authorities.

Their lawyers need more time to build their case. :confused:

Indeed. They're having kittens over on FF. There's a thread about a Stock Market statement saying Ashley has loaned a further £10M. Part of it will repay his first loan. He gets an even bigger hold on the club with two more board members or directors ( is that the same thing). Two more fingers up to the SFA.

AndyM_1875
27-01-2015, 07:30 AM
Sports Direct have loaned the money. Legally that might be significant as opposed to Ashley directly.
BUt the upshot is that Rangers have given over security on Murray park, Edminston House and the car park as well as basically handing some of their shirt sponsorship deal and most of their Retail Revenue over.

As deals go, it's Wonga level economics.

bingo70
27-01-2015, 07:34 AM
Does this loan mean administration is unlikely for them this season?

Jim44
27-01-2015, 07:47 AM
Does this loan mean administration is unlikely for them this season?

Probably. I say that on the basis that there is some relief expressed that, in the short term anyway, a points the deduction will be avoided. Frankly, I think at the very least, the circus at Ibrox should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute. Talk about Ashley flaunting the rules, he seems to be making the rules. The SFA should be ashamed of themselves, the way he is swatting them aside.

Ronniekirk
27-01-2015, 07:50 AM
Does this loan mean administration is unlikely for them this season?
Think it buys them more time so no imminent administration Note the article refers to hopefully a further announcement soon about an injection of further permanent working capital which would allow them to buy players . Thats my concern that somehow they get funding that allows them to change manager and bring in a few players Of course they are maybe just saying that so there isn't an outcry from fans about Ashley lending them more money at this point .But next source of funding will be interesting .
SFA in discussions with his lawyers re procedural hearing so no doubt they will be working on ways to legally get round obstacles in his way to exert more power over club

Does this close the door now on the three bears continuing to invest ?

Cropley was God s view needed me thinks

AndyM_1875
27-01-2015, 08:15 AM
Think it buys them more time so no imminent administration Note the article refers to hopefully a further announcement soon about an injection of further permanent working capital which would allow them to buy players . Thats my concern that somehow they get funding that allows them to change manager and bring in a few players Of course they are maybe just saying that so there isn't an outcry from fans about Ashley lending them more money at this point .But next source of funding will be interesting .
SFA in discussions with his lawyers re procedural hearing so no doubt they will be working on ways to legally get round obstacles in his way to exert more power over club

Does this close the door now on the three bears continuing to invest ?

Cropley was God s view needed me thinks

They should have enough money to see them to the summer at which point they will release all the 7 grand a week brigade. A new manager will come in and Ashley will hand him the remit of building a younger cheaper team to get out of the Championship. Llambias has a rep as a cost cutter at Newcastle so that certainly seems a likely scenario.

Doesn't necessarily close the door on anyone investing. But whoever comes in will have to work with Ashley as he has the whip hand and basically now is Rangers Retail which may have been his plan all along.

greenginger
27-01-2015, 08:43 AM
Does this loan mean administration is unlikely for them this season?


Yep, unless the SFA/SPFL turn up with the rule books, the Ashley agreement , and grow a pair. Then send Ashley, homeward to think again.

I think you are safe to conclude administration for them is unlikely.

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 08:43 AM
Think it buys them more time so no imminent administration Note the article refers to hopefully a further announcement soon about an injection of further permanent working capital which would allow them to buy players . Thats my concern that somehow they get funding that allows them to change manager and bring in a few players Of course they are maybe just saying that so there isn't an outcry from fans about Ashley lending them more money at this point .But next source of funding will be interesting .
SFA in discussions with his lawyers re procedural hearing so no doubt they will be working on ways to legally get round obstacles in his way to exert more power over club

Does this close the door now on the three bears continuing to invest ?

Cropley was God s view needed me thinks

Nothing less than what I expected. The latest in a series of short-term loans to enable them to organise the share issue.

There's a lot of comment on Twitter and the likes, which I haven't seen confirmed anywhere else, eg:-

The £10m is to partly pay the £3m already lent. £5m is suspended, pending "due diligence". It's secured against Murray Park. It is secured by a floating charge over all of the assets.

If the first claim is correct, they certainly don't have enough to last the season yet.

greenginger
27-01-2015, 09:09 AM
Looking at the AIMS Market there still seems to be a healthy trade in Rangers shares now at 30 pence.

Is there still a chance King and the real Rangers men can empty Ashley at a general meeting vote ?

jacomo
27-01-2015, 09:11 AM
Maybe he wants to have Rocha J Rocha design Thier new Strip and sell them in Debenhams :confused:

Ashley seems determined to own the entire High St.

Moulin Yarns
27-01-2015, 09:22 AM
Nothing less than what I expected. The latest in a series of short-term loans to enable them to organise the share issue.

There's a lot of comment on Twitter and the likes, which I haven't seen confirmed anywhere else, eg:-

The £10m is to partly pay the £3m already lent. £5m is suspended, pending "due diligence". It's secured against Murray Park. It is secured by a floating charge over all of the assets.

If the first claim is correct, they certainly don't have enough to last the season yet.

That is how it was reported on the BBC. I see parallels with Hearts (we owe it to ourselves!)
:greengrin

I'll give you £5m to pay me my £3m, and the £2m is for the day to day running of the club (a couple of months!)

Security is over Murray PArk and all the retail arm, and future sales of replica shirts (3 years) if I heard it right. Does any of that sound familiar? :wink:

ballengeich
27-01-2015, 09:24 AM
Looking at the AIMS Market there still seems to be a healthy trade in Rangers shares now at 30 pence.

Is there still a chance King and the real Rangers men can empty Ashley at a general meeting vote ?

It looks to me that the first tranche of the new loan will take them up to around the date of the prospective gm and I suspect that's deliberate. At that point other investors will have the choice of backing Ashley or immediately repaying this loan and finding other short-term finance to keep the business going. I reckon it depends how much King and rrm have available in ready cash.

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 09:30 AM
That is how it was reported on the BBC. I see parallels with Hearts (we owe it to ourselves!)
:greengrin

I'll give you £5m to pay me my £3m, and the £2m is for the day to day running of the club (a couple of months!)

Security is over Murray PArk and all the retail arm, and future sales of replica shirts (3 years) if I heard it right. Does any of that sound familiar? :wink:

No floating charge?

Moulin Yarns
27-01-2015, 09:32 AM
No floating charge?

OOPs, yes, over all assets. :greengrin

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 09:39 AM
OOPs, yes, over all assets. :greengrin

Ha..... do the Loyal know that yet? :cb

Just Alf
27-01-2015, 09:45 AM
OOPs, yes, over all assets. :greengrin


Ha..... do the Loyal know that yet? :cb

so the security isnt on Ibroke but it sort of is?

:confused:

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 09:51 AM
so the security isnt on Ibroke but it sort of is?

:confused:

The main security is on MP and those other things, and that may be enough to cover the debt.

However, if it isn't, the balance of the debt can be repaid by part of the proceeds of the sale of the other assets, including Ibrox.

HappyHibby93
27-01-2015, 10:19 AM
So rangers are borrowing money from Ashley, partly payback Ashley.... hahahahahahahahahahaha :top marks:top marks:top marks

Smartie
27-01-2015, 10:33 AM
Can they not come to some kind of arrangement whereby they have a security on ticket money for the next few years? Surely with all the big games they get that would work?

:stirrer:

Cropley10
27-01-2015, 10:47 AM
Nothing less than what I expected. The latest in a series of short-term loans to enable them to organise the share issue.

There's a lot of comment on Twitter and the likes, which I haven't seen confirmed anywhere else, eg:-

The £10m is to partly pay the £3m already lent. £5m is suspended, pending "due diligence". It's secured against Murray Park. It is secured by a floating charge over all of the assets.

If the first claim is correct, they certainly don't have enough to last the season yet.

Where will the money for the costs of (another) share issue come from?

Who will underwrite it?

How does raising capital from a share issue negate the fact that The Rangers constantly spend more than they bring in?

Cropley10
27-01-2015, 10:53 AM
Love this line: “None of the security that is being given to SD covers Ibrox Stadium, which is specifically excluded and remains in the full ownership of the Club, free from any security."

Of course it is still possible that someone has an 'option' on the stadium, say Sevco 5088, and for that reason they cannot offer it as security even if they wanted to... So, it's possible to both own something, but not be able to offer it as security, as I understand it.

But I still don't see how this new Clumpany is going to trade its way out of this hole. It was not set up to succeed, by Green and his gang... IMHO

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 10:56 AM
Where will the money for the costs of (another) share issue come from?

Who will underwrite it?

How does raising capital from a share issue negate the fact that The Rangers constantly spend more than they bring in?

1 and 2.... that is what the arm-wrestling and cock-showing is about. To work out who can, and would, underwrite it.

As for 3.... one would assume (not a good word to use in RFC's case :greengrin) that a new regime, with sensible financial controls, would use that share money wisely. Run properly, it is potentially a very profitable business.

AndyM_1875
27-01-2015, 12:24 PM
1 and 2.... that is what the arm-wrestling and cock-showing is about. To work out who can, and would, underwrite it.

As for 3.... one would assume (not a good word to use in RFC's case :greengrin) that a new regime, with sensible financial controls, would use that share money wisely. Run properly, it is potentially a very profitable business.

Totally agree CWG.

Another share offer will definitely happen but it'll be interesting to see how Ashley plays this now.
Will he look to make peace with the "Rangers Men" forcing the EGM or does he attempt to blow them away and take the club over lock, stock and barrel after perhaps selling Newcastle?

If Llambias or whoever is in charge in June hires a competent manager(Billy Davies, Stuart McCall) who is then set a properly realistic salary budget (all the 7k a week brigade will be away) and stops hiring players with no resale value (29 and over) then Rangers will probably have a relatively stress free run towards promotion to the Premiership starting 2016/2017.

worcesterhibby
27-01-2015, 01:42 PM
From what I can see, the good news is that this "10million" loan won't make any difference to Rangers ability to put a better team in the park this season. £5million is being held back and £3million immediately goes to Ashley to re-pay his previous loan. It seems that Rangers Retail (which ashley basically owns now) is also about to declare a dividend of £1.6 million, which will also go to ashley…so in effect he seems to be giving them £5million (with the possibility of a further £5million at some point in the future) and taking back £4.6million straight away !!

So Rangers just pawned their training ground, Registered trademarks and "other properties" for the sake of £400,000 which will last them about 2 weeks !!

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 01:47 PM
From what I can see, the good news is that this "10million" loan won't make any difference to Rangers ability to put a better team in the park this season. £5million is being held back and £3million immediately goes to Ashley to re-pay his previous loan. It seems that Rangers Retail (which ashley basically owns now) is also about to declare a dividend of £1.6 million, which will also go to ashley…so in effect he seems to be giving them £5million (with the possibility of a further £5million at some point in the future) and taking back £4.6million straight away !!

So Rangers just pawned their training ground, Registered trademarks and "other properties" for the sake of £400,000 which will last them about 2 weeks !!

Almost true, but the club are getting £2m, not £400k :)

worcesterhibby
27-01-2015, 01:57 PM
Almost true, but the club are getting £2m, not £400k :)

Yes but only because they were already giving Ashley the £1.6million from the Club merchandise anyway, whether or not he had loaned them this latest cash…in effect it's still money that Rangers should be earning, but is heading for Ashley's bank account. Or have I mis-understood the Dividend bit ?

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 02:01 PM
Yes but only because they were already giving Ashley the £1.6million from the Club merchandise anyway, whether or not he had loaned them this latest cash…in effect it's still money that Rangers should be earning, but is heading for Ashley's bank account. Or have I mis-understood the Dividend bit ?

As I understand it, it's Rangers Retail (a separate company, not the club) which is paying the dividend in order to repay him "something" that he was owed.

The £10m loan is for the club only, and they have use of £2m of it just now.

snooky
27-01-2015, 02:08 PM
As I understand it, it's Rangers Retail (a separate company, not the club) which is paying the dividend in order to repay him "something" that he was owed.

The £10m loan is for the club only, and they have use of £2m of it just now.

As a complete outsider to the world of finance, it seems to me that one day, surely, TRFC will run out of stepping stones - no?

bighairyfaeleith
27-01-2015, 02:16 PM
As a complete outsider to the world of finance, it seems to me that one day, surely, TRFC will run out of stepping stones - no?

We live in hope

davcar
27-01-2015, 02:52 PM
As I understand it, it's Rangers Retail (a separate company, not the club) which is paying the dividend in order to repay him "something" that he was owed.

The £10m loan is for the club only, and they have use of £2m of it just now.

Wages due?

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 03:12 PM
Wages due?

Tomorrow, AFAIK.

worcesterhibby
27-01-2015, 03:18 PM
As I understand it, it's Rangers Retail (a separate company, not the club) which is paying the dividend in order to repay him "something" that he was owed.

The £10m loan is for the club only, and they have use of £2m of it just now.

Do we have any idea what their outgoings are per month ? I'm guessing this £2million won't be able to be used to get a new manager or any players in the Jan Transfer window

Cropley10
27-01-2015, 03:58 PM
Totally agree CWG.

Another share offer will definitely happen but it'll be interesting to see how Ashley plays this now.
Will he look to make peace with the "Rangers Men" forcing the EGM or does he attempt to blow them away and take the club over lock, stock and barrel after perhaps selling Newcastle?

If Llambias or whoever is in charge in June hires a competent manager(Billy Davies, Stuart McCall) who is then set a properly realistic salary budget (all the 7k a week brigade will be away) and stops hiring players with no resale value (29 and over) then Rangers will probably have a relatively stress free run towards promotion to the Premiership starting 2016/2017.

But whichever way you look at it they first need to find:

£2m to pay off the first tranche of this SD Loan

£5m to pay off Ashley and they've still got to finish this season.

£23m to £30m (allowing for current squad budget) to immediately assemble a squad comparable to Celtc's or at least better than a good Aberdeen side, so that CL progression can be achieved.

Around £10m to £14m in annual non footballing operations costs, without considering the persistence of onerous contracts.

Merchandising and catering have already been hawked off. So I think it will take a lot of cash and a lot of upheaval to resolve.

Sorry, I don't share your optimism. :greengrin

Weststandwanab
27-01-2015, 04:01 PM
Wages due?

Due to be in Player's accounts and cleared by Thursday morning

Iain G
27-01-2015, 04:06 PM
But whichever way you look at it they first need to find:

£2m to pay off the first tranche of this SD Loan

£5m to pay off Ashley and they've still got to finish this season.

£23m to £30m (allowing for current squad budget) to immediately assemble a squad comparable to Celtc's or at least better than a good Aberdeen side, so that CL progression can be achieved.

Around £10m to £14m in annual non footballing operations costs, without considering the persistence of onerous contracts.

Merchandising and catering have already been hawked off. So I think it will take a lot of cash and a lot of upheaval to resolve.

Sorry, I don't share your optimism. :greengrin

So he loans them £10m, on top of the £3m he has already loaned them, meaning £13m in total. £3m of this loan is effectively to pay himself back, so that means they still owe him £10m, or am I going mad...

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 04:09 PM
So he loans them £10m, on top of the £3m he has already loaned them, meaning £13m in total. £3m of this loan is effectively to pay himself back, so that means they still owe him £10m, or am I going mad...

At the moment, they only owe him/MASH/SD £5m. The other £5m has been held back, pending "due diligence".

emerald green
27-01-2015, 05:36 PM
Apologies if this has already been covered elsewhere on this huge thread, but what I can't quite get my head around is this:

Mike Ashley / Sports Direct keep lending The Rangers millions of pounds, thus preventing the newco falling into administration (with the resultant 25 points deduction). Yet, at the same time as this latest loan was announced, the Scottish FA's judicial panel was expected to begin its hearing into whether Ashley was in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs.

How can this be right? What is it I'm not seeing here? What if the same judicial panel find Ashley is in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs? What happens then? Do they have to give him his money back? :confused:

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 05:42 PM
Apologies if this has already been covered elsewhere on this huge thread, but what I can't quite get my head around is this:

Mike Ashley / Sports Direct keep lending The Rangers millions of pounds, thus preventing the newco falling into administration (with the resultant 25 points deduction). Yet, at the same time as this latest loan was announced, the Scottish FA's judicial panel was expected to begin its hearing into whether Ashley was in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs.

How can this be right? What is it I'm not seeing here? What if the same judicial panel find Ashley is in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs? What happens then? Do they have to give him his money back? :confused:
I would expect that he would be given a period of time to comply with their ruling. ie get out of NUFC or RFC, or at least reduce his involvement.

Then the ball would be in his court. ....[emoji6]

jonty
27-01-2015, 05:43 PM
Apologies if this has already been covered elsewhere on this huge thread, but what I can't quite get my head around is this:

Mike Ashley / Sports Direct keep lending The Rangers millions of pounds, thus preventing the newco falling into administration (with the resultant 25 points deduction). Yet, at the same time as this latest loan was announced, the Scottish FA's judicial panel was expected to begin its hearing into whether Ashley was in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs.

How can this be right? What is it I'm not seeing here? What if the same judicial panel find Ashley is in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs? What happens then? Do they have to give him his money back? :confused:

At which point he'll say "you cant do that because The Rangers will collapse and you (The SPFL/SFA) will have caused the mess" and he'll get to keep on doing what he's doing. Whatever that is.

Jim44
27-01-2015, 05:45 PM
Apologies if this has already been covered elsewhere on this huge thread, but what I can't quite get my head around is this:

Mike Ashley / Sports Direct keep lending The Rangers millions of pounds, thus preventing the newco falling into administration (with the resultant 25 points deduction). Yet, at the same time as this latest loan was announced, the Scottish FA's judicial panel was expected to begin its hearing into whether Ashley was in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs.

How can this be right? What is it I'm not seeing here? What if the same judicial panel find Ashley is in contravention of its rules on dual interests in football clubs? What happens then? Do they have to give him his money back? :confused:

I think the SFA are a bit frightened of how Ashley is laughing in their faces or at least they are giving him time and space to build his case. Maybe they see Ashley, while not the fan's favourite, as the most likely to keep them from Administration and will bend over backwards to clear the road back to top league.

emerald green
27-01-2015, 05:50 PM
I would expect that he would be given a period of time to comply with their ruling. ie get out of NUFC or RFC, or at least reduce his involvement.

Then the ball would be in his court. ....[emoji6]

OK thanks for this. It will be interesting to hear what their ruling is. I cannot see Ashley walking away from Newcastle United though.

jonty
27-01-2015, 05:53 PM
at the risk of sounding like one of the great unwashed zombies - whats the big deal if he has a football club in a different country?

Bishop Hibee
27-01-2015, 05:54 PM
If Ashley wasn't allowed to own Rangers 'yesterday' due to his ownership of Newcastle Utd, how will the SFA let him own Rangers 'today/tomorrow' unless he flogs Utd? The SFA must be bricking it over having to make a decision on this.

bingo70
27-01-2015, 05:57 PM
If Ashley wasn't allowed to own Rangers 'yesterday' due to his ownership of Newcastle Utd, how will the SFA let him own Rangers 'today/tomorrow' unless he flogs Utd? The SFA must be bricking it over having to make a decision on this.

Why? They didn't duck out of it when they made them start again in the bottom division.

kaimendhibs
27-01-2015, 05:58 PM
I have no substance to say this other than I don't trust the football authorities in Scotland at all. So my prediction is that the SFA will do an amazing U Turn and find in favour of Ashley and newco!!

emerald green
27-01-2015, 06:03 PM
at the risk of sounding like one of the great unwashed zombies - whats the big deal if he has a football club in a different country?

Fair point. Personally, I have no idea whatsoever if it's relevant that someone, like Ashley, has interests in clubs in Scotland and England (or anywhere else for that matter).

The fact that the SFA's judicial panel is even looking at this I can only presume there is some point, or justification, for doing so? My interest is that I don't wish to see the newco escape a points deduction by avoiding going into administration unfairly and/or against the rules, of which I'm unfamiliar I have to admit.

jonty
27-01-2015, 06:08 PM
Fair point. Personally, I have no idea whatsoever if it's relevant that someone, like Ashley, has interests in clubs in Scotland and England (or anywhere else for that matter).

The fact that the SFA's judicial panel is even looking at this I can only presume there is some point, or justification, for doing so? My interest is that I don't wish to see the newco escape a points deduction by avoiding going into administration unfairly and/or against the rules, of which I'm unfamiliar I have to admit.

they'll be looking at it because there will be some rule that they need to pay lip service too, but IMO he'll get away with whatever he wants.

Ronniekirk
27-01-2015, 06:08 PM
Almost true, but the club are getting £2m, not £400k :)
Could a large part of the 2 million be used to bring in players ,or is that primarily to cover wages and keep the lecky on etc

Kavinho
27-01-2015, 06:16 PM
Why? They didn't duck out of it when they made them start again in the bottom division.

Really?
I thought they passed the buck to the SPL clubs, who in turn had to be barracked by fans to vote against allowing them into the top flight..

Then the SFA had the chance to say "it wisnae me but you have to start at the bottom

might be selectively remembering this now of course. .. !

jonty
27-01-2015, 06:17 PM
Really?
I thought they passed the buck to the SPL clubs, who in turn had to be barracked by fans to vote against allowing them into the top flight..

Then the SFA had the chance to say "it wisnae me but you have to start at the bottom

might be selectively remembering this now of course. .. !

don't forget the snakes and their 5-way-agreement letter.

Kavinho
27-01-2015, 06:18 PM
don't forget the snakes and their 5-way-agreement letter.


How could I ?!

Oh and "Armageddon"

greenginger
27-01-2015, 06:32 PM
they'll be looking at it because there will be some rule that they need to pay lip service too, but IMO he'll get away with whatever he wants.




http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/SFAPublications/ScottishFAPublications2014-15/Handbook%202014-15..pdf


Clause 13 on pages 85 - 87 covers duel interests. Its pretty comprehensive but........ where there's a will there's way.

Kavinho
27-01-2015, 07:34 PM
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/SFAPublications/ScottishFAPublications2014-15/Handbook%202014-15..pdf


Clause 13 on pages 85 - 87 covers duel interests. Its pretty comprehensive but........ where there's a will there's way.

Is it not something to do with "custom and practice"
?!

jonty
27-01-2015, 07:40 PM
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/SFAPublications/ScottishFAPublications2014-15/Handbook%202014-15..pdf


Clause 13 on pages 85 - 87 covers duel interests. Its pretty comprehensive but........ where there's a will there's way.

yeah. that.


theres rules that cover player movement & registration between transfer windows too :wink:

Deansy
27-01-2015, 09:03 PM
Guaranteed the GFA will allow the Hun\Ashley to do whatever they like claiming their hands were tied because any other course of action would've resulted in the demise of this 'Great British Institution' and no-one could seriously want that ................. apart from every other Scottish Football-fan, Scottish Society and every single person on this planet stupid enough to believe in decency, honesty and fair-play !!!

But that won't matter a jot to the 'Leaders of our game' .......

CropleyWasGod
27-01-2015, 09:20 PM
Guaranteed the GFA will allow the Hun\Ashley to do whatever they like claiming their hands were tied because any other course of action would've resulted in the demise of this 'Great British Institution' and no-one could seriously want that ................. apart from every other Scottish Football-fan, Scottish Society and every single person on this planet stupid enough to believe in decency, honesty and fair-play !!!

But that won't matter a jot to the 'Leaders of our game' .......
Yet it did when they stopped him increasing his shareholding[emoji6]

truehibernian
27-01-2015, 09:31 PM
Yet it did when they stopped him increasing his shareholding[emoji6]

CWG, I noted that the loan was secured against land/assets aside from Ibrox......the land around Ibrox includes a car park but if memory serves me right (if it's theirs), a huge football pitch sized area (which was/is a football pitch :greengrin).......if things fail for Ashley owning The Rangers', is the 'land grab' significant ?

ScottB
27-01-2015, 10:14 PM
I am curious as to why there's such an objection on him owning both, Romanov owned several teams and I don't recall that being an issue for Hearts?

Ozyhibby
27-01-2015, 10:19 PM
I am curious as to why there's such an objection on him owning both, Romanov owned several teams and I don't recall that being an issue for Hearts?

UEFA rules have changed since then and it is no longer allowed.

greenginger
27-01-2015, 10:37 PM
UEFA rules have changed since then and it is no longer allowed.


I think its a SFA rule rather than UEFA. UEFA won't allow duel owned clubs to compete in the same European competition, but the English Premier League does not seem to mind their owners having diddy teams as well.

I think the Chelsea owner has a club in Belgium as well.

Haymaker
27-01-2015, 10:38 PM
I think its a SFA rule rather than UEFA. UEFA won't allow duel owned clubs to compete in the same European competition, but the English Premier League does not seem to mind their owners having diddy teams as well.

I think the Chelsea owner has a club in Belgium as well.

Bought Mallorca as well recently.

greenginger
27-01-2015, 11:13 PM
Bought Mallorca as well recently.


I think that deal fell through. Most of the past owners of Real Mallorca are in Palma clink.

Haymaker
27-01-2015, 11:25 PM
I think that deal fell through. Most of the past owners of Real Mallorca are in Palma clink.

Oh, didn't know that

Iain G
27-01-2015, 11:30 PM
Guaranteed the GFA will allow the Hun\Ashley to do whatever they like claiming their hands were tied because any other course of action would've resulted in the demise of this 'Great British Institution' and no-one could seriously want that ................. apart from every other Scottish Football-fan, Scottish Society and every single person on this planet stupid enough to believe in decency, honesty and fair-play !!!

But that won't matter a jot to the 'Leaders of our game' .......

Is Rod not involved in this mix somewhere, if he is I somehow can't see him rolling over, given his quoted track record on the Rangers dabacle recently??

bighairyfaeleith
28-01-2015, 02:11 PM
I wouldn't advise going to sports direct on saturday around 3pm

Blaster
28-01-2015, 02:14 PM
Should be going to Easter road anyway!!! 😄

bighairyfaeleith
28-01-2015, 02:18 PM
Should be going to Easter road anyway!!! 

:greengrin aye very good, however if you're not you might want to avoid sports direct

Blaster
28-01-2015, 02:25 PM
:greengrin aye very good, however if you're not you might want to avoid sports direct

😄

s.a.m
28-01-2015, 02:33 PM
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/308252-rangers-blocked-court-order-from-giving-ashley-security-over-ibrox/

cabbageandribs1875
28-01-2015, 02:44 PM
sally McCoist probably wants to know all the names(and addresses) of all sports direct employees

jacomo
28-01-2015, 03:10 PM
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/308252-rangers-blocked-court-order-from-giving-ashley-security-over-ibrox/

They effectively sold future shirt sponsorship if needed to pay off any loans to Mike Ashley?!

Ronniekirk
28-01-2015, 03:16 PM
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/308252-rangers-blocked-court-order-from-giving-ashley-security-over-ibrox/

Like the quote Corporate Piracy Could be theme for anyone going on Friday the 13th to wind them up
I see they are still referring to an E G M when is this as I thought There was a statement from stock market saying King had withdrawn that request because of the cost it would incurr Have I got that wrong or missed another announcement in this ongoing Piracy saga I

Radium
28-01-2015, 05:15 PM
14163

Saw this at Sports Direct Livingston - only 90% off

cabbageandribs1875
28-01-2015, 05:20 PM
14163

Saw this at Sports Direct Livingston - only 90% off


still far too expensive

portycabbage
28-01-2015, 09:02 PM
I see the SFA hearing for Ashley/sevco is March 2nd.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31022330

Also, was wondering - the new loan has the condition that Ashley can appoint 2 board members (like the 2 already there?) for the duration of the loan, so how does that work if they are voted off by Daveylocks and the three bears in a few weeks? Will the loan have to be repaid before they get the boardroom changes they want, even if the vote goes in their favour?

Northernhibee
28-01-2015, 09:06 PM
14163

Saw this at Sports Direct Livingston - only 90% off

Kris Boyd is such a prick, you can tell just by looking at his moaning puss.

portycabbage
28-01-2015, 09:39 PM
Kris Boyd is such a prick, you can tell just by looking at his moaning puss.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/93/0a/fd/930afde0020a6dbd3083b5db550b57b3.jpg



(http://www.yvonne-arnaud.co.uk/production/a-midsummer-nights-dream-1)

portycabbage
28-01-2015, 11:00 PM
I see the SFA hearing for Ashley/sevco is March 2nd.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31022330

Also, was wondering - the new loan has the condition that Ashley can appoint 2 board members (like the 2 already there?) for the duration of the loan, so how does that work if they are voted off by Daveylocks and the three bears in a few weeks? Will the loan have to be repaid before they get the boardroom changes they want, even if the vote goes in their favour?

Just answering my own questions-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31010900
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31010900)
Sounds like Llambias and Leach will not be voted off anytime soon, unless/until Ashley gets his £10m back (plus perhaps early repayment penalties?)

bighairyfaeleith
29-01-2015, 07:18 AM
Kris Boyd is such a prick, you can tell just by looking at his moaning puss.

That must be a photoshop jobby because no way is boyd that thin!

greenginger
29-01-2015, 07:38 PM
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/308290-high-profile-scottish-football-figures-in-sweat-over-tax-avoidance-scheme/


A whole lot of football people might be hit for back taxes including Billy ( what's an EBT ) Dodds. :thumbsup:


Don't think there's a Yam on the list. :confused:

hibees 7062
02-02-2015, 05:01 PM
Felix Magath new manager if the three bears get in

Bostonhibby
02-02-2015, 05:10 PM
Felix Magath new manager if the three bears get in

Excellent if true, Norris Cole and Christopher Biggins love child. The Rangers/Newcastle reserves, the club that keeps on giving.:thumbsup:

jacomo
02-02-2015, 05:14 PM
Felix Magath new manager if the three bears get in

Wow, is that rumour supposed to boost their chances?

I am expecting news that players are leaving!!

greenginger
03-02-2015, 08:31 AM
This Newcastle import should get a real warm welcome at planet Ibrox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Ferguson

Born Derry ( eh, its Londonderry ) former Gaelic Football player.

I don't think big Mike knows their History ! :greengrin

Jonny1875
03-02-2015, 08:52 AM
This Newcastle import should get a real warm welcome at planet Ibrox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Ferguson

Born Derry ( eh, its Londonderry ) former Gaelic Football player.

I don't think big Mike knows their History ! :greengrin

He plays for NI so he'll be welcomed with open arms!

greenginger
03-02-2015, 08:59 AM
He plays for NI so he'll be welcomed with open arms!


A bit like Neil Lennon. :greengrin

ACLeith
03-02-2015, 09:03 AM
Wow, is that rumour supposed to boost their chances?

I am expecting news that players are leaving!!

Never even heard any rumour that any club was interested in their big earners - and why would they!

So, my unbiased (:agree:) summary of their Transfer Window is -

- They sold their most promising youngster for a fee reputedly close to £1M. But how much of that was up front and did it all go to repay MA anyway?
- Their "stars" are on the scrapheap and still on the wage bill
- They have received 5 youngsters with unknown ability to battle adversity, who almost certainly don't want to be there and who will soon experience the delights of their training/coaching regime. The only development will be in their waist size!
- A manager/coach who had no say in these new players arriving and who probably hadn't heard of them until yesterday evening
- A senior player who is rubbishing the club (KM in today's Herald)

Shame really :aok:

Newry Hibs
03-02-2015, 09:04 AM
With him and Jon Daly in the team, they'll be more 'celtc minded' then their neighbours.

greenginger
03-02-2015, 09:23 AM
What ever happened to the General Meeting of Sevco that Dave King had put in motion ?

Has it been dropped, refused , undecided or a date set.

Spike Mandela
03-02-2015, 09:44 AM
What ever happened to the General Meeting of Sevco that Dave King had put in motion ?

Has it been dropped, refused , undecided or a date set.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/rangers/clock-is-ticking-for-rangers-board-egm-decision-as-fans-call-for-ibrox-195863n.117321739

greenginger
03-02-2015, 10:29 AM
So by this Friday they have to call the meeting, or say why the request is invalid, or do a deal somewhere to get voting support.


Don't know how I want this one to play out.

Ashley has undoubtedly got the cash to keep them afloat but the people won't come out and support his team.

King and the three bears would get the people behind them , but would they put the money in, and how long before they start fighting each other and forcing each other off the board.

KerPlunk
03-02-2015, 10:36 AM
The boy Streete has already played for 2 clubs this season, Toon and Port Vale. He can register with a third club but will be unable to play for them I think. Same situation with Ben Arfa..........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31104494

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/hatem-ben-arfa-limbo-clearance-fifa-nice-newcastle

sadtom
03-02-2015, 10:42 AM
This Newcastle import should get a real warm welcome at planet Ibrox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Ferguson

Born Derry ( eh, its Londonderry ) former Gaelic Football player.

I don't think big Mike knows their History ! :greengrin


No, its Derry.
Made up imperialist names dont count. ;-)
Unless i'm allowed to change the name of Englands capital to Derrylondon?!

greenginger
03-02-2015, 10:44 AM
Registrations/irregularities and the Scottish Football authorities. The rules will be changed next season so everything is OK, normal practice don't you know. :greengrin

greenginger
03-02-2015, 10:47 AM
No, its Derry.
Made up imperialist names dont count. ;-)
Unless i'm allowed to change the name of Englands capital to Derrylondon?!


What you call the second biggest city in Northern Ireland defines your identity !........... according to some folks anyway.

southern hibby
03-02-2015, 10:49 AM
No, its Derry.
Made up imperialist names dont count. ;-)
Unless i'm allowed to change the name of Englands capital to Derrylondon?!

You can change it to Derrylondon if you wish. However I'd like to change it to Sh:t Hole.

GGTTH

JeMeSouviens
03-02-2015, 11:43 AM
What you call the second biggest city in Northern Ireland defines your identity !........... according to some folks anyway.

Stroke City if you're a neutral. :wink:

Andy74
03-02-2015, 11:48 AM
No, its Derry.
Made up imperialist names dont count. ;-)
Unless i'm allowed to change the name of Englands capital to Derrylondon?!

If you have a decent enough army you could do that if you wished.

oneone73
03-02-2015, 12:09 PM
The boy Streete has already played for 2 clubs this season, Toon and Port Vale. He can register with a third club but will be unable to play for them I think. Same situation with Ben Arfa..........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31104494

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/hatem-ben-arfa-limbo-clearance-fifa-nice-newcastle

Let's hope the GFA are aware. One for Petrie methinks

hibbytam
03-02-2015, 12:18 PM
The boy Streete has already played for 2 clubs this season, Toon and Port Vale. He can register with a third club but will be unable to play for them I think. Same situation with Ben Arfa..........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31104494

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/hatem-ben-arfa-limbo-clearance-fifa-nice-newcastle


Certainly seems so, at least according to this website has him playing for Port Vale and Newcastle under 21s. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/remie-streete/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/198587/plus/

That could be quite amusing....

Andy74
03-02-2015, 12:21 PM
Certainly seems so, at least according to this website has him playing for Port Vale and Newcastle under 21s. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/remie-streete/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/198587/plus/

That could be quite amusing....

He hasn't played an official match for Newcastle though.

Oops, just read the article, looks like Under 21 games count.

Hibee87
03-02-2015, 12:26 PM
Presmably fifa get some sort of paperwork today on players signed last night, this could be funny haha

Future17
03-02-2015, 12:30 PM
I'd prefer him to play for them in a few games before they were rumbled!

hibbytam
03-02-2015, 05:57 PM
Reported here.
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/309019-remi-streete-confident-red-tape-wont-scupper-rangers-loan-move/

Personally, I can't see how they can play him, but It is the Rangers, so it depends on how much attention FIFA pay to it. I'm sure the SFA would do their usual.

On another note, how overjoyed does he look at the prospect of playing for sevco.


Remie Streete says he’s confident his loan move to Rangers won’t be scuppered by strict FIFA transfer rules.

The Ibrox club signed Streete on deadline day along with Magpies team-mates Gael Bigirimana, Shane Ferguson, Kevin Mbabu, Remie Streete and Haris Vuckic.

Rangers hope that all five can help Kenny McDowall’s team win promotion to the Premiership but fears were raised Streete’s playing history could rule him out of first team action at Ibrox.

FIFA rules on the transfer of players allow an individual to be registered at three clubs in the space of one season but only to play for two.

Generally, “playing” for a club is considered to apply to first team competitive fixtures. However, recent FIFA rulings suggest that the world governing body considers Under-21 games in England to count in the same way.

Streete has played two games on loan at Port Vale this season but has also made appearances for Newcastle United’s Under-21 side. If the youth games were not counted as full fixtures, Rangers would field be able to field Streete. The Ibrox club would be the third club he was registered with and the second he played for, as the rules permit.

However, if Newcastle Under-21 games are classed as full fixtures by FIFA, Rangers would be able to sign Streete but not play him. He would be registered for three clubs but already have played for two (Port Vale and Newcastle Under-21s).

Scottish FA protocols state only first team games count but FIFA have ruled on this on at least two occasions in the last month, including the case of Hatem Ben Arfa.

Ben Arfa, like Streete, played for Newcastle’s Under-21 side this season and was also on loan at Hull.

He agreed a move from Newcastle to Nice but was told on his arrival at the French club that he could not play for a third club this season.

However Streete doesn’t believe he will suffer the same fate, adding: “It’s all signed from my end.

"I think different federations in different countries have different rules. I know France stopped that one [Ben Arfa] but from what I’ve read on the internet and been told from my agent the Scottish FA have allowed me to make the transfer. So hopefully it should be fine."

In another example, Chelsea midfielder Nathaniel Chalobah played for the club’s Under-21 side and also for Burnley on loan. A proposed January move to Bordeaux collapsed when it was ruled that he had already played for two clubs. Chalobah is now on loan at reading, but only because the English FA handles domestic loans in a different way from international moves.

FIFA declined to comment on specific transfers when contacted by STV on Tuesday

Hal Jordan
03-02-2015, 07:00 PM
An interesting development...

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/03/sports-direct-zero-contract-workers-compensation

McIntosh
03-02-2015, 07:05 PM
An interesting development...

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/03/sports-direct-zero-contract-workers-compensation

What a shower. Ashley and his band are really apologies for human beings. The unacceptable face of capitalism. No football club not even Rangers deserve to be associated with the likes of Ashley.

bingo70
03-02-2015, 07:07 PM
What a shower. Ashley and his band are really apologes for human beings. The unacceptable face of capitalism. No football club not even Ranfers deserve to be associated with the likes of Ashley.

Yes they do, horrible ****s.

lapsedhibee
03-02-2015, 07:08 PM
What a shower. Ashley and his band are really apologies for human beings. The unacceptable face of capitalism. No football club not even Rangers deserve to be associated with the likes of Ashley.

Au contraire. The perfect association!

Just Alf
04-02-2015, 09:49 AM
Dave King, John Gilligan, Paul Murray & Richard Gough convene in Glasgow for a media conference on #Rangers

DK: Very confident of victory at EGM. Believe enough votes have been secured.

DK: Vision is to see a Rangers we recognise. Competing with Celtic, performing in Europe. Gap needs to be addressed. (:faf:)

DK: During course of litigation both myself and SARS were criticised. Final outcome is that SARS agreed no fraud and settlement reached.

DK: Present Nomad not fit and proper. Other Nomads have already cleared DK involvement. Believes he can satisfy SFA too.

DK: Current board should resign. Nomad suggested compromise with existing board being added to. That was rejected. No contact with board.

DK: Very surprised if Whyte still involved. Less so Green.

DK: 'The choice of manager is going to be a very important decision.'

DK: No individual should be in control of Rangers. Fans need to be long term significant investors. DK happy to contribute 50%.

DK: Investment needed not only on football side but maintenance, infrastructure.

lapsedhibee
04-02-2015, 10:09 AM
DK: Present Nomad not fit and proper. Other Nomads have already cleared DK involvement. Believes he can satisfy SFA too.

DK: Current board should resign. Nomad suggested compromise with existing board being added to. That was rejected. No contact with board.

DK: Very surprised if Whyte still involved. Less so Green.


Looked this up to see if it was an acronym and the interwebs came up "None Of My Actions Detected". Very appropriate in the context of the Murray / Whyte / Green skulduggery.

Jim44
04-02-2015, 10:56 AM
The Telegraph says that the SFA are satisfied that the The Rangers loan signings comply with FIFA regulations. They will also be attempting to add a sixth player, free agent, later this week.

Bostonhibby
04-02-2015, 10:59 AM
What a shower. Ashley and his band are really apologies for human beings. The unacceptable face of capitalism. No football club not even Rangers deserve to be associated with the likes of Ashley.

Don't get this at all, the liquidation of the now defunct Glasgow rangers resulted in many people being denied any monies due to them at all, not to mention the criminality that went on along the way. I have consistently believed that Ashley is ideal for them as he is a far bigger shark than they have ever dealt with/bullied/ignored before - as they are now finding out. :thumbsup:

Ashley isn't actually breaking any laws along the way - interesting comparison with the track record of the rest of the cast in this particular pantomime. Would I want him anywhere near Hibs - not a chance.

Stick with it Mike, only a few assets to sweep up now.

Bostonhibby
04-02-2015, 11:01 AM
The Telegraph says that the SFA are satisfied that the The Rangers loan signings comply with FIFA regulations. They will also be attempting to add a sixth player, free agent, later this week.

Inevitable they would interpret in the best possible way again - them pesky rules keep getting in the way.

1987kev
04-02-2015, 11:14 AM
i was really hopin they were not going sign anyone. I still see them a danger in the play offs, anything can happen in 2 games of football no matter what's happened earlier the season.

Seveno
04-02-2015, 12:43 PM
What a shower. Ashley and his band are really apologies for human beings. The unacceptable face of capitalism. No football club not even Rangers deserve to be associated with the likes of Ashley.

Oh, I think they do, you know.

jacomo
04-02-2015, 01:06 PM
i was really hopin they were not going sign anyone. I still see them a danger in the play offs, anything can happen in 2 games of football no matter what's happened earlier the season.

Louise Taylor has undeniable links at Newcastle, her view is that these players will improve them:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/03/rangers-newcastle-five-loan-players-mike-ashley

Der Hun are cheating, robbing barstwerards. Skint and can't afford to pay their bills without selling McLeod to Brentford, they now get 5 loan players on the cheap to help them out.

southsider
04-02-2015, 01:14 PM
Louise Taylor has undeniable links at Newcastle, her view is that these players will improve them:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/03/rangers-newcastle-five-loan-players-mike-ashley

Der Hun are cheating, robbing barstwerards. Skint and can't afford to pay their bills without selling McLeod to Brentford, they now get 5 loan players on the cheap to help them out.
Aye and their pals down PBS way are now paying fee's for payers. Bet Creditors are delighted at that news.

PatHead
04-02-2015, 01:22 PM
Louise Taylor has undeniable links at Newcastle, her view is that these players will improve them:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/03/rangers-newcastle-five-loan-players-mike-ashley

Der Hun are cheating, robbing barstwerards. Skint and can't afford to pay their bills without selling McLeod to Brentford, they now get 5 loan players on the cheap to help them out.
According to the The Hun next door The Rangers are paying all their wages. He suspects it is to make The Rangers more indebt to Ashley and hurry through his plans, whatever they may be. Wouldn't surprise me if he charged them a fee as well.

Northern Hibby
04-02-2015, 01:23 PM
The Rangers = carTOON army

Jim44
04-02-2015, 02:53 PM
What's the likely outcome, if Dave King is successful in ousting the board at their General meeting in a few weeks time? What are the implications for Ashley, his financial loans and his loanee players?

jacomo
04-02-2015, 02:58 PM
According to the The Hun next door The Rangers are paying all their wages. He suspects it is to make The Rangers more indebt to Ashley and hurry through his plans, whatever they may be. Wouldn't surprise me if he charged them a fee as well.

Well, as far as we know they haven't been late with any wage payments this season.

However, they also need loans to see them through the season, which means they are spending more than they have.

Ronniekirk
04-02-2015, 08:31 PM
So King media conference seems to be putting the message out that he has enough backing and votes to become key player at next meeting which is imminent ? he also seems to be implying a new manager would be brought in . Anyone who has been following this of the view that this will now probably happen ,or is it more posturing and trying to get leverage over Ashley

Bostonhibby
04-02-2015, 08:53 PM
So King media conference seems to be putting the message out that he has enough backing and votes to become key player at next meeting which is imminent ? he also seems to be implying a new manager would be brought in . Anyone who has been following this of the view that this will now probably happen ,or is it more posturing and trying to get leverage over Ashley

King will only succeed if Ashley isn't actually wanting to own the club outright, either directly or indirectly. If Ashley actually had no intention of owning the club or it's assets all along he is well placed to make a big profit on exiting.

King is either underestimating the strength of Ashleys position or more likely he gets it but is trading off Ashleys unpopularity with the zombie hordes to endear himself to them and maybe hope they won't see his track record as a problem.

Ashley will get whatever it is he wants out of this.

Bostonhibby
04-02-2015, 09:02 PM
What's the likely outcome, if Dave King is successful in ousting the board at their General meeting in a few weeks time? What are the implications for Ashley, his financial loans and his loanee players?

They will still have to repay the loans, Ashley might not be predisposed to payment holidays, extensions or anything else and if they ain't paid early or on time he has some nice securities in place. The players are probably the rangers for the duration unless Newcastle want them back and none of them are a part of their immediate plans. Maybe there will be issues over who pays them?

IMO

mca
04-02-2015, 09:04 PM
i was really hopin they were not going sign anyone. I still see them a danger in the play offs, anything can happen in 2 games of football no matter what's happened earlier the season.

If That Happens - Guaranteed on CT being referee.. :wink:

portycabbage
04-02-2015, 09:06 PM
What's the likely outcome, if Dave King is successful in ousting the board at their General meeting in a few weeks time? What are the implications for Ashley, his financial loans and his loanee players?

I don't think Llambias and Leach are going to be ousted, given that the terms of the recent £10m Ashley loan include Sports Direct being entitled to appoint 2 directors until it's paid back-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31010900 (relevant bit beneath picture of Dave King's puss).

Bostonhibby
04-02-2015, 09:10 PM
I don't think Llambias and Leach are going to be ousted, given that the terms of the recent £10m Ashley loan include Sports Direct being entitled to appoint 2 directors until it's paid back-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31010900 (relevant bit beneath picture of Dave King's puss).

:agree: Clever man Ashley, they really are dealing with a guy who wont be scared away.

portycabbage
04-02-2015, 09:19 PM
:agree: Clever man Ashley, they really are dealing with a guy who wont be scared away.

Dave King doesn't sound like he's for paying up anytime soon (so that the 2 Ashley-appointed directors can be voted off), and is talking of working with Ashley rather than ousting him-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31139420

Jim44
04-02-2015, 09:20 PM
So, effectively, if King and his cronies get control at the GM, and bite the bullet by repaying all Ashley's loans, including early repayment penalties, the The Rangers could land on their feet in the not too distant future? ............. Disappointing if so.

Bostonhibby
04-02-2015, 09:26 PM
Dave King doesn't sound like he's for paying up anytime soon (so that the 2 Ashley-appointed directors can be voted off), and is talking of working with Ashley rather than ousting him-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31139420

This is an important point, there are many Rangers "people" and King talking money but in the case of the "people", bears or whatever they are called its not the banks money this time, it needs to be their own and they haven't (can't?) actually put up to the extent Ashley has. King is an unknown but again, loads of early noise but nae £££££.

Ashley doesn't need to play with King at this stage.

Deansy
05-02-2015, 09:20 AM
'Dave King:‘Tax fight proves I’m man for Rangers’

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/dave-king-tax-fight-proves-i-m-man-for-rangers-1-3680580


'“I showed resilience, I was willing to put money in, I was tenacious. That is what Rangers need right now. Some of the things I demonstrated in my fight in South Africa is what the club needs. I will hang around. I fought there for 11 years and I won. That is important, if you look at what happened, I won in the end and came out on top against the State'

He 'won' ??


Give it a week or so and our media will be portraying King's version as 'The Real Story' !!

Bostonhibby
05-02-2015, 09:28 AM
'Dave King:‘Tax fight proves I’m man for Rangers’

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/dave-king-tax-fight-proves-i-m-man-for-rangers-1-3680580


'“I showed resilience, I was willing to put money in, I was tenacious. That is what Rangers need right now. Some of the things I demonstrated in my fight in South Africa is what the club needs. I will hang around. I fought there for 11 years and I won. That is important, if you look at what happened, I won in the end and came out on top against the State'

He 'won' ??


Give it a week or so and our media will be portraying King's version as 'The Real Story' !!
The judge had a funny way of telling him he was a winner! His attitude towards der hun makes me think he could be even worse for them than whyte. Only has to totally defeat Ashley, pass the fit and proper person test then put up tens of millions to buy the assets back and fund the club.

lapsedhibee
05-02-2015, 09:44 AM
He 'won' ??


In much the same way that the the local huns claim to have won their tax tribunal thingy.

PatHead
05-02-2015, 10:10 AM
Who needs a fax machine when Ashley tells you the first 5 names on the teamsheet? Doesn't have undue influence though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31145792

bighairyfaeleith
05-02-2015, 10:45 AM
Brilliant, two of the loan signings are injured before they even arrived :greengrin

Jack
05-02-2015, 10:53 AM
'Dave King:‘Tax fight proves I’m man for Rangers’

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/dave-king-tax-fight-proves-i-m-man-for-rangers-1-3680580


'“I showed resilience, I was willing to put money in, I was tenacious. That is what Rangers need right now. Some of the things I demonstrated in my fight in South Africa is what the club needs. I will hang around. I fought there for 11 years and I won. That is important, if you look at what happened, I won in the end and came out on top against the State'

He 'won' ??


Give it a week or so and our media will be portraying King's version as 'The Real Story' !!


... and the State agree NOT!


In 2011, a High Court Judge in North Gauteng, castigated King. Judge Brian Southwood said that the court was "unanimous in finding that he (King) is a mendacious witness whose evidence should not be accepted on any issue unless it is supported by documents and other objective evidence. It was remarkable that King showed no sign of embarrassment or any emotion when he conceded that he had lied to the (SARS) commissioner in a number of his income tax returns. In our assessment, he is a glib and shameless liar."

Moan the Judge :greengrin

Ronniekirk
05-02-2015, 11:38 AM
Brilliant, two of the loan signings are injured before they even arrived :greengrin

I wonder how many of the Five are happy about their Loan moves and when they were told . If they are guaranteed a place every week if fit that must cause unrest in dressing room Wonder if McDowal will follow instructions on this one or are they hoping he walks

silverhibee
05-02-2015, 11:54 AM
He hasn't played an official match for Newcastle though.

Oops, just read the article, looks like Under 21 games count.

Not in Scotland though, SFA rules just been changed.

Biggie
05-02-2015, 11:56 AM
Sorry, but McDowall should just down tools and walk...he's not short of a bob or two and would leave with some dignity instead of being seen by all and sundry to be getting done up the arse.

Future17
05-02-2015, 11:57 AM
Not in Scotland though, SFA rules just been changed.

I don't think that matters does it? It's FIFA's rules that are the relevant point.

With Ben Arfa, the English FA said they don't consider U21 games as "official" fixtures, but FIFA said they do and, therefore, he was prevented from playing for Nice.

Deansy
05-02-2015, 12:25 PM
The thing is, WE won't be laughing if these guys DO make a difference !!. The Huns are trying to repeat what they did in the SPL for years - finishing high-up in the league with players they CAN'T afford and costing every other club their final-position pay-out !!

The Hibee Harp
05-02-2015, 12:38 PM
The thing is, WE won't be laughing if these guys DO make a difference !!. The Huns are trying to repeat what they did in the SPL for years - finishing high-up in the league with players they CAN'T afford and costing every other club their final-position pay-out !!

This! :top marks:agree:

hibbytam
05-02-2015, 12:43 PM
I don't think that matters does it? It's FIFA's rules that are the relevant point.

With Ben Arfa, the English FA said they don't consider U21 games as "official" fixtures, but FIFA said they do and, therefore, he was prevented from playing for Nice.

If this guy is allowed to play, I think Ben Arfa's lawyer might be interested. Certainly seems that both cases are identical, but with different clubs involved.

KeithTheHibby
05-02-2015, 12:44 PM
The thing is, WE won't be laughing if these guys DO make a difference !!. The Huns are trying to repeat what they did in the SPL for years - finishing high-up in the league with players they CAN'T afford and costing every other club their final-position pay-out !!

5 Newcastle reserves? If they were any good they would be out on loan in England instead of a league comparable with the 4th tier of english football.

In the past we have had Tom Soares, Matt Doherty, Keigan Ayre and George Francombe who all came from EPL sides. Neither of them made a difference and were punted back. Jay Sinclair and Matt Kennedy this season also spring to mind.
If it's true what McDowall says then these 5 loanees are only going to split the dressing room, not enhance the team.

Ozyhibby
05-02-2015, 07:11 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/9b46ce485090ae51ba3d1ca4e29c9e42.jpg

The Pointer
05-02-2015, 07:50 PM
Hmm....page 888 of this thread. How appropriate.

:devil:

greenginger
05-02-2015, 08:09 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/9b46ce485090ae51ba3d1ca4e29c9e42.jpg



Where did that feed come from. It has not been picked up on Kerrydale Street.

Funnily enough I saw in one of the reports this morning King was claiming W H Ireland were not fit and proper NOMADs because King claims ( wrongly ) that they had been appointed by Green.

pacorosssco
05-02-2015, 08:19 PM
hope as good as our loans tended to be. cheating. arent rangers fc 50 league winners. fact. they were liquidated

Jack
05-02-2015, 08:41 PM
hope as good as our loans tended to be. cheating. arent rangers fc 50 league winners. fact. they were liquidated

Would you like to try again in joined up English?

Ozyhibby
05-02-2015, 09:13 PM
Where did that feed come from. It has not been picked up on Kerrydale Street.

Funnily enough I saw in one of the reports this morning King was claiming W H Ireland were not fit and proper NOMADs because King claims ( wrongly ) that they had been appointed by Green.

Found it on twitter. No idea of it's accuracy.

kaimendhibs
05-02-2015, 09:18 PM
I've tweeted Tom English, Banderson, graham Spiers, Raman from Stv, Richard Gordon, BBC sport, Stv Sport asking if any idea why mc culloch not been cited. Not ONE reply

Jack
05-02-2015, 10:15 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/9b46ce485090ae51ba3d1ca4e29c9e42.jpg

Canny wait :-)

CropleyWasGod
05-02-2015, 10:50 PM
Found it on twitter. No idea of it's accuracy.
It's referring to an EGM. The pedant in me tends to think it's not genuine, on that point alone.

However, if one side can make the kind of stupid mistake that the post suggests, then so can the others.

SteveHFC
05-02-2015, 10:56 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/9b46ce485090ae51ba3d1ca4e29c9e42.jpg

http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Friends1.gif

greenginger
05-02-2015, 11:09 PM
The post is right about the error in the names.

From the Rangers AIM site on 19th Jan. It is New Oasis Asset Management Ltd that makes the call for a GM.

On 22nd Jan a correction is made to the name of the company owning King's shares. It says the name " New Oasis Investments Ltd " was wrong, and the correct name is " New Oasis Assets Ltd ".

Neither of which is the name of the company calling for the GM. :confused:.

Any one of three then.

tamig
06-02-2015, 07:12 AM
I've tweeted Tom English, Banderson, graham Spiers, Raman from Stv, Richard Gordon, BBC sport, Stv Sport asking if any idea why mc culloch not been cited. Not ONE reply

Have you contacted the compliance guy directly? He looks at complaints raised from all sources.

kaimendhibs
06-02-2015, 09:35 AM
Haven't mate, don't know how


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HIBERNIAN-0762
06-02-2015, 11:24 AM
Are they still playing Simply The Best when they run out of the tunnel?

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Springbank
06-02-2015, 11:31 AM
Poor Kenny McDowall

What's happening at The Rangers would never have happened at Rangers...

HIBERNIAN-0762
06-02-2015, 11:35 AM
McDowell being made to look a right fool here, he should just jack it now but hey! on the salary he must be on?

What a mess, long may it continue.

Onceinawhile
06-02-2015, 11:36 AM
If this guy is allowed to play, I think Ben Arfa's lawyer might be interested. Certainly seems that both cases are identical, but with different clubs involved.

Given he only played twice for Port Vale, I have the feeling this will have been classed as an emergency loan, games on which do not count. Which would leave him free to play.

See skellet to Man u.

bighairyfaeleith
06-02-2015, 12:14 PM
Are they still playing Simply The Best when they run out of the tunnel?

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Aye they do, the irony:greengrin

Bostonhibby
06-02-2015, 12:44 PM
Aye they do, the irony:greengrin
Simply the bust

Bishop Hibee
06-02-2015, 12:58 PM
Apparently the General Meeting will be held in London! Will the tent be pitched in Hyde Park?

scoopyboy
06-02-2015, 01:16 PM
Apparently the General Meeting will be held in London! Will the tent be pitched in Hyde Park?

Why London?

Who picked the venue?

bighairyfaeleith
06-02-2015, 01:19 PM
Why London?

Who picked the venue?

current board, they will be hoping some shareholders cannot attend

ScottB
06-02-2015, 01:24 PM
Apparently the General Meeting will be held in London! Will the tent be pitched in Hyde Park?

Another chance for 'Ra Peepul' to be warmly welcomed in a big English city...

Spike Mandela
06-02-2015, 01:24 PM
Requisitioned General Meeting notice.......

http://www.investegate.co.uk/rangers-int-f-c--plc/rfc/requisitioned-general-meeting/201502061327072959E/?fe=1&utm_source=FE%20Investegate%20Alerts&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=Announcement%20Alert%20Mail&utm_campaign=Rangers%20Int%20F.C.%20PLC%20Alert


Certainly spells out the board's view.

jacomo
06-02-2015, 01:43 PM
Another chance for 'Ra Peepul' to be warmly welcomed in a big English city...

Oh dear... I live in London, so will make sure I take special measures.

I imagine the hotel will ask for a hefty deposit against damages, up front and in cash.

grunt
06-02-2015, 02:10 PM
BBCBMcLauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin 6m6 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/BBCBMcLauchlin/status/563714682004205568) Indian businessman Lalit Modi has held talks with Sandy Easdale over potential purchase of major shareholding in @RangersFC (https://twitter.com/RangersFC) #BBCSPORTSCOT (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BBCSPORTSCOT?src=hash)

Future17
06-02-2015, 02:16 PM
BBCBMcLauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin 6m6 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/BBCBMcLauchlin/status/563714682004205568) Indian businessman Lalit Modi has held talks with Sandy Easdale over potential purchase of major shareholding in @RangersFC (https://twitter.com/RangersFC) #BBCSPORTSCOT (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BBCSPORTSCOT?src=hash)

The same Lalit Modi who was sacked as Commissioner of the IPL and banned for life for financial irregularities. :rolleyes:

WillowbraeHibby
06-02-2015, 02:29 PM
The same Lalit Modi who was sacked as Commissioner of the IPL and banned for life for financial irregularities. :rolleyes:


Couldnae make this script up... Another colourful character... :greengrin

Iain G
06-02-2015, 03:05 PM
The same Lalit Modi who was sacked as Commissioner of the IPL and banned for life for financial irregularities. :rolleyes:

So an improvement on King or Whyte then!!

bighairyfaeleith
06-02-2015, 03:14 PM
So an improvement on King or Whyte then!!

I would love it if they all sold out just before the EGM to this guy.

Smartie
06-02-2015, 03:18 PM
It's like a bizarre game of "stick or twist" with the shady characters that are queueing up to get involved with them.

Murray was bad. It beggars belief how much worse they've managed to get every step of the way.

Newspaper headline from March 2017 - "Rowland, Romanov and the fetid corpse of Wallace Mercer launch bid to save stricken Ibrox outfit".

s.a.m
06-02-2015, 03:29 PM
It's like a bizarre game of "stick or twist" with the shady characters that are queueing up to get involved with them.

Murray was bad. It beggars belief how much worse they've managed to get every step of the way.

Newspaper headline from March 2017 - "Rowland, Romanov and the fetid corpse of Wallace Mercer launch bid to save stricken Ibrox outfit".


It's bizarre, isn't it? You'd think that with all the fans they have, there would be someone with money, somewhere, who is straight up or at the very least, hasn't been prosecuted for financial irregularities.

greenlex
06-02-2015, 03:35 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/9b46ce485090ae51ba3d1ca4e29c9e42.jpgI must have this wrong. If Ive done my maths right 100% voting rights would basically cost you £814.653.74????

Deansy
06-02-2015, 03:47 PM
Requisitioned General Meeting notice.......

http://www.investegate.co.uk/rangers-int-f-c--plc/rfc/requisitioned-general-meeting/201502061327072959E/?fe=1&utm_source=FE%20Investegate%20Alerts&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=Announcement%20Alert%20Mail&utm_campaign=Rangers%20Int%20F.C.%20PLC%20Alert


Certainly spells out the board's view.

'The uncertainty had an adverse effect on trading within the football club business and forced the Company to take action such as accepting short term loans from Sandy Easdale (twice), Laxey Partners Limited, George Letham and Mash Holdings Limited, as well as regretfully having to agree the sale of Lewis MacLeod'

Aye, times are hard - could only get 5 players from an EPL-Club !!

Iain G
06-02-2015, 03:48 PM
It's like a bizarre game of "stick or twist" with the shady characters that are queueing up to get involved with them.

Murray was bad. It beggars belief how much worse they've managed to get every step of the way.

Newspaper headline from March 2017 - "Rowland, Romanov and the fetid corpse of Wallace Mercer launch bid to save stricken Ibrox outfit".

Nigel Farage delighted to be appointed Chairman of Rangers...

GreenLake
06-02-2015, 03:54 PM
The same Lalit Modi who was sacked as Commissioner of the IPL and banned for life for financial irregularities. :rolleyes:

He'll find plenty of bowlers amongst the huns.

grunt
06-02-2015, 03:59 PM
A London hotel will be the venue for the EGM, with the cost of the process amounting to £200,000Money well spent, I'd say.

WillowbraeHibby
06-02-2015, 04:00 PM
He'll find plenty of bowlers amongst the huns.

See what you done there.....:greengrin

ScottB
06-02-2015, 04:08 PM
Nigel Farage delighted to be appointed Chairman of Rangers...

I dunno, he's a racist, sure, but is he bigoted enough for the job?

Ronniekirk
06-02-2015, 06:47 PM
He'll find plenty of bowlers amongst the huns.

You have me stumped there,time to bale Cricket gets on my wicket :wink:

ancient hibee
06-02-2015, 06:53 PM
You have me stumped there,time to bale Cricket gets on my wicket :wink:

Think they wear them.

jonty
06-02-2015, 07:23 PM
So now King has got his EGM (despite reports to the contrary) and its a reported cost of £200,000 - who (is supposed to) pays for that.

Smartie
06-02-2015, 07:26 PM
So now King has got his EGM (despite reports to the contrary) and its a reported cost of £200,000 - who (is supposed to) pays for that.

500+ season ticket holders?

Ronniekirk
06-02-2015, 07:54 PM
Think they wear them.

Ah the Lodge variety

gorgie greens
06-02-2015, 11:56 PM
Ah the Lodge variety

Aye Mason Boyne and his darling daughter Orangina

Springbank
07-02-2015, 03:51 AM
What this year has shown is that ultimately it can all come down to the football.

It's pretty difficult for The Jonny Hun to sing his proscribed party songs at 0-4 to Hibs with half an hour to play