Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[GreenLake]

I found this gem on Skyscraper City:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=566204

That was fun!

The bigots must be furious watching the Uruguay vs Venezuela game on TV right now because there is Godin on the pitch.

[Finn2015]

I found this gem on Skyscraper City:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=566204

Comedy gold. Minty and his moonbeams

[jacomo]

Comedy gold. Minty and his moonbeams

Over in Edinburgh, Tynecastle will definitely* have a bigger capacity than Easter Road once the new main stand is built.

*Hearts FC reserve the right to count some seats twice. Rumoured target of 21902 (ho ho) has now been abandoned.

[grunt]

Mike Ashley loses court fight over Scottish FA fine


The businessman claimed the governing body had made an 'error of law' over dual interest sanction.
Mike Ashley has failed in a court fight over a fine imposed by the Scottish FA over his influence at Rangers.

The businessman had sought judicial review over the decision of the governing body to levy the £1000 sanction, claiming an error in law had been made.

MASH Holdings Limited, of which Ashley is the 100% shareholder, entered a credit facility arrangement with Rangers in October 2014.


As part of the conditions of the loan, his associate Derek Llambias was nominated and subsequently appointed as a director of Rangers International Football Club plc and its subsidiary Rangers Football Club Limited.

Ashley is forbidden under the rules of the Scottish FA from having influence over Rangers beyond his 9% shareholding because of his majority stake in English Championship club Newcastle United.

A judicial panel ruled that he had breached those rules as a result of MASH loaning Rangers money.

In his opinion, Lord Brodie agreed with the view of the Scottish FA's compliance officer that Ashley, through MASH, had through the "very granting of the right to nominate directors in and of itself gave rise to the possibility of the petitioner influencing the affairs of two clubs."

[Finn2015]

Over in Edinburgh, Tynecastle will definitely* have a bigger capacity than Easter Road once the new main stand is built.

*Hearts FC reserve the right to count some seats twice. Rumoured target of 21902 (ho ho) has now been abandoned.

Is that all, sure the 'big team' could get a 60,000 stadium lol

[Famous Fiver]

Pity it wasn't Lord Brodie adjudicating on whether the use of EBTs had provided an unfair advantage.

Could have been an entirely different outcome.

[grunt]

James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 4m4 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/741235276262051840) While much of the debate at Ashley v SFA centered on the long running club/company debate Lord Brodie makes no reference to it. 1/2

James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 4m4 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/741235555808235520)
So a decisive legal judgment on that vexed question remains to be made. 2/2

James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 14m14 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/741233064362270720)
Full judgment in SFA v Mike Ashley https://t.co/ZIY8u1MPWg

[JeMeSouviens]

They have just signed 37 old year old Clint Hill, freed by QPR. Strangely the story on their official site contains 0 quotes from, or indeed mentions of, the de-hatted Warbmeister. Curious?

[kaimendhibs]

Was wondering about that as well. He really has vanished😄

[Ozyhibby]

Allegedly not been in touch with anyone at Ibrox since the cup final.


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[BigKev]

Warburton is due to finish his Pro Licence qualifications in the next couple of weeks which will make him a more attractive candidate for clubs down south.

His silence since the cup final is bizarre and with no confirmation of a new contract then you've got to wonder if he's happy with the broken promises of the Hun board.

[Finn2015]

Expect the daily record devoting the sports pages to why clint hill is the best defender ever and will bring much needed experience blah blah blah

[Jim44]

Expect the daily record devoting the sports pages to why clint hill is the best defender ever and will bring much needed experience blah blah blah

His middle name is 'Overthe'. :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

Warburton is due to finish his Pro Licence qualifications in the next couple of weeks which will make him a more attractive candidate for clubs down south.

His silence since the cup final is bizarre and with no confirmation of a new contract then you've got to wonder if he's happy with the broken promises of the Hun board.

His current contract runs till June 2018 ,so no rush from his point of view to sign a new deal ,unless the terms suit him . But the fact contract talks have broken down according to some papers indicates maybe all is not well



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[Ozyhibby]

His current contract runs till June 2018 ,so no rush from his point of view to sign a new deal ,unless the terms suit him . But the fact contract talks have broken down according to some papers indicates maybe all is not well



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It's got more to do with his unpaid bonus's on his current contract I believe.


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[Keith_M]

#prayforwarbo

[Callum_62]

They are back in pre season training this weekend

all will be revealed then

[Bostonhibby]

His middle name is 'Overthe'. :greengrin

Looks like King's overspending is finally kicking in - Hill was a half decent footballer and exceptional "hard man" up until about 2013/14 but can't see him doing much in Scotland - the Rangers are beginning to look like a rest home for ageing no marks or players in the twilight of their careers who couldn't hack it in England now. Celtc must be quaking in their boots.

[Marco G]

It's got more to do with his unpaid bonus's on his current contract I believe.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt has gone very quiet from the breadman, the question is do The Rangers have a plan B?

[Velma Dinkley]

It has gone very quiet from the breadman, the question is do The Rangers have a plan B?

I'm sure they do but it will probably be half baked.

[northstandhibby]

His current contract runs till June 2018 ,so no rush from his point of view to sign a new deal ,unless the terms suit him . But the fact contract talks have broken down according to some papers indicates maybe all is not well



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Read an article today which referred to ''if mark warburton decides to move south''. Sounded very strange if all was well - obviously all is not well with the mark warburton situation. The media are moving very slowly and softly with this disappearing act.

There is much acrimony I suggest down Ibrox and a soft soap is being applied by the hun media.

Glory Glory

[Stax]

Looks like King's overspending is finally kicking in - Hill was a half decent footballer and exceptional "hard man" up until about 2013/14 but can't see him doing much in Scotland - the Rangers are beginning to look like a rest home for ageing no marks or players in the twilight of their careers who couldn't hack it in England now. Celtc must be quaking in their boots.
The solitary (decent) Hun who I'm mates with came out with this as his main concern, and he was talking about Barton... As an aside, can you imagine any other country on earth where no questions are asked of a disappeared manager of the most successful club on earth?

[Bostonhibby]

The solitary (decent) Hun who I'm mates with came out with this as his main concern, and he was talking about Barton... As an aside, can you imagine any other country on earth where no questions are asked of a disappeared manager of the most successful club on earth?
Maybe the warbler has woke up to what they are singing about and is looking for a return to civilization?

[grunt]

Dave King is answering fans' questions on the Rangers website.
First response is about their transfer policy.
Sit back, it's a long one.
It was posted during the England and Wales games tonight.

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-fan-response-1/


LAST WEEK Rangers Chairman Dave King invited supporters to send in questions and below you can read the first part in series as he addresses the topics raised by fans
Transfer Policy and AmbitionsUnsurprisingly, a topic that contributed the largest amount of questions was the Club’s ongoing transfer policy and ambitions.
Given the pertinent relevance of transfers at this time of the year I have decided to commence my responses by reviewing all of the questions that touch on our general approach to recruiting players through transfer. Hopefully, my comments cover all of the questions that have been submitted with the exception of individual player targets that I cannot publicly comment on.

The first point I wish to make is that the present transfer policy will be consistent for the foreseeable future. Our transfer activity must support the need of the Rangers first-team squad to be capable of competing to win our domestic competitions every season and, in doing so, ensure participation in Europe. While it is unrealistic in the present “moneyed” world of European football to expect any club from the smaller countries to win either of the two major European trophies it is nevertheless important that we give a good account of ourselves when in Europe and not submit meekly at the first hurdle. It will therefore be necessary to acquire players with European experience in advance of our return to European competition.

It is also essential that our transfer activities are conducted in a financially responsible manner. Long gone are the days when Rangers was able to attract top players from England and Europe (Terry Butcher, Richard Gough, Mark Hateley, Ray Wilkins, Graeme Souness, Paul Gascoigne, Brian Laudrup etc.) by paying more than they were earning.

The English Premier League now has more media value than the next three major leagues combined. That has resulted in clubs, that are much smaller than Rangers in pure footballing terms (and history,) having substantially greater transfer funds to invest in players – but only while they are participating in the EPL or the Championship. While it is frustrating to find Rangers being out bid for targeted players by smaller English clubs (with greater short term access to cash,) it would be financially reckless to compete with them and not recognise the current market reality. This reality will only change if Rangers is able to bridge the income gap by competing outside of Scottish football – which will inevitably happen. In the short term, European participation is partial compensation towards bridging this gap.

Another observation I would like to make on our transfer policy options stems from the changes that have been irreversibly introduced by the media exposure that football has achieved on a global basis. When I was a kid it was the ambition of my schoolmates to play for Rangers one day – and play only for Rangers. It is now the case that most Rangers supporting youngsters see playing for the Club as a strong ambition but not their final ambition. Increasingly, playing for Rangers is seen as the realisation of stage one of a personal dream before moving on to one of the Big 5 leagues. It is a pity – but again is a reality that we must recognise as non-Scottish clubs continue to recruit the best young talent irrespective of their nationality.

I have sketched some of my thoughts above as they inform the Club’s transfer policy as adopted by the present Board. Given that we cannot compete with the transfer and wages budgets of our Southern neighbours it is vital that we find ways to attract the best young Scottish talent that can meet our domestic and European ambitions but can also have a good transfer value, if the opportunity presents itself for a move to a better paying league. In that way Rangers will get value while the player plays for the Club and the secondary value of a transfer fee that can be recycled back into improving the player squad. As far as possible the young Scottish players should come through the Rangers Youth System but we must also be alert to acquiring Scottish players from other clubs when the right player and opportunity presents itself.

In addition to blooding and fielding young players it is essential to have an experienced component within the team. That will ideally be a combination of players who have graduated through the Club and others who will be secured from other Clubs within the UK and overseas. When acquiring players from other clubs we recognise the need to pay our players a level of wages that are appropriate to our expectations of them.

We also recognise the important role that transfer fees play in securing targeted players however will do our best to keep this cost down by proper pre-planning of our targeted needs thereby avoiding last minute signings and the consequent premium cost that this always introduces. Frank McParland was recruited with this specific objective in mind and has already been working for many months to ensure that the Manager’s current player recruitment preferences are being met on a properly planned basis.

The squad that the Manager put together for last season had to be done at short notice due to the circumstances at the time. That is not the situation at present as we look to significantly strengthen the squad to compete in the Premiership. The Manager has had ample time to plan his recruitment strategy. Last season Mark deliberately chose a relatively lean squad that was deemed sufficient to win the Championship. The limited options became evident towards the end of the season when player availability was restricted due to yellow cards, injuries and the non-availability of new signings that were cup tied. This season will see a greater emphasis on a larger, more experienced squad while still giving room for the younger players to develop. The squad will however be appropriately larger without being “bloated”. Having players in the squad who have no realistic chance of playing for the first team is not only a waste of money – it is demoralising. All first-team squad players should believe that they have a realistic chance of catching some game time.

Ultimately, the player selection comes down to the group of players that Mark and his team show interest in and executive management then attempts to negotiate with the individual players, and their clubs if necessary. Mark has had a deliberate strategy in the last few signings to secure a number of senior players to add balance to what was a very young squad but the overall squad blend will remain a mixture of youth and experience with a continued strong focus on youth.

[Spike Mandela]

Dave King is answering fans' questions on the Rangers website.
First response is about their transfer policy.
Sit back, it's a long one.
It was posted during the England and Wales games tonight.

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-fan-response-1/

What could be better than the rambling thoughts of a glib and shameless liar?

[Bostonhibby]

Dave King is answering fans' questions on the Rangers website.
First response is about their transfer policy.
Sit back, it's a long one.
It was posted during the England and Wales games tonight.

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-fan-response-1/

The missing sentence at the end is presumably " so for the foreseeable future we will be picking up 35 year old and above free transfers from England"

They've nae money and meaningful debt again by the sound of it.

[YehButNoBut]

Huns look set to sign Croatian midfielder Niko Kranjcar, must have some money to spend.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36579914

Croatia midfielder Niko Kranjcar will arrive in Glasgow on Wednesday for a medical ahead of a proposed move to Rangers, according to his lawyer.
There is a two-year contract on offer to the 31-year-old from the Ibrox club.
The former Tottenham, QPR and Dynamo Kiev player is a free agent following a spell with New York Cosmos.

Kranjcar, capped 81 times for his country, wants to return to Europe for a "fresh challenge", lawyer Emil Zgur told BBC Scotland.

[Finn2015]

Decent player in his day but seems to have lost his way a bit.

[Matty_Jack04]

Huns look set to sign Croatian midfielder Niko Kranjcar, must have some money to spend.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36579914

Croatia midfielder Niko Kranjcar will arrive in Glasgow on Wednesday for a medical ahead of a proposed move to Rangers, according to his lawyer.
There is a two-year contract on offer to the 31-year-old from the Ibrox club.
The former Tottenham, QPR and Dynamo Kiev player is a free agent following a spell with New York Cosmos.

Kranjcar, capped 81 times for his country, wants to return to Europe for a "fresh challenge", lawyer Emil Zgur told BBC Scotland.

Been playing for New York cosmos pretty sure there not even in the MLS no chance he'd get 2 year deal anywhere else IMO good player in his day but a big gamble

[jacomo]

What could be better than the rambling thoughts of a glib and shameless liar?

Only just back in the top Scottish league and already saying it's 'inevitable' they will leave for a wealthier league elsewhere.

Someone should tell the 4 yr old that no one likes a cocky brat.

[greenpaper55]

Who would have them after what happened in Manchester ? King is deluded to think that they will play anywhere else than in Scotland, do you see Belgian teams playing in France or French teams playing in Germany just because they fancy the better money in those countries ?. No team in the lower leagues of England will vote to to lessen the chance of themselves getting into the EPL with the money they stand to lose.

[Iain G]

Only just back in the top Scottish league and already saying it's 'inevitable' they will leave for a wealthier league elsewhere.

Someone should tell the 4 yr old that no one likes a cocky brat.

"It is also essential that our transfer activities are conducted in a financially responsible manner. Long gone are the days when Rangers was able to attract top players from England and Europe (Terry Butcher, Richard Gough, Mark Hateley, Ray Wilkins, Graeme Souness, Paul Gascoigne, Brian Laudrup etc.) by paying more than they were earning."

Does this mean that they haven't re-started the EBT scheme yet? :greengrin

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

"It is also essential that our transfer activities are conducted in a financially responsible manner. Long gone are the days when Rangers was able to attract top players from England and Europe (Terry Butcher, Richard Gough, Mark Hateley, Ray Wilkins, Graeme Souness, Paul Gascoigne, Brian Laudrup etc.) by paying more than they were earning."

Does this mean that they haven't re-started the EBT scheme yet? :greengrin

Cough Tori Andre Flo cough...£12million...cough

[Onion]

"It is also essential that our transfer activities are conducted in a financially responsible manner. Long gone are the days when Rangers was able to attract top players from England and Europe (Terry Butcher, Richard Gough, Mark Hateley, Ray Wilkins, Graeme Souness, Paul Gascoigne, Brian Laudrup etc.) by paying more than they were earning."

Does this mean that they haven't re-started the EBT scheme yet? :greengrin

The ramifications for Rangers defaulting on tens of millions £££ is simply a proven blue-print (pun intended) for their next financial model. Retaining their ground, name, brand, intellectual property and history - while wiping all that debt away - was no disincentive to do it all over again. The SFA/SPFL, media, politicians and other clubs should share in the shame that is Sevco. When it all goes tits up again, they will carry the blame this time.

[southern hibby]

Cough Tori Andre Flo cough...£12million...cough

How they wish they had 12 million in the bank lol

In fact probably wish they had 1.2 million


GGTTH

[Jack Hackett]

How they wish they had 12 million in the bank lol

In fact probably wish they had 1.2 million


GGTTH

They'll be raking under the settee cushions again now they've agreed to pay Accrington Stanley....mind you, 'agreeing' isn't actually 'paying' given their form where such matters are concerned

[Hibs Class]

The ramifications for Rangers defaulting on tens of millions £££ is simply a proven blue-print (pun intended) for their next financial model. Retaining their ground, name, brand, intellectual property and history - while wiping all that debt away - was no disincentive to do it all over again. The SFA/SPFL, media, politicians and other clubs should share in the shame that is Sevco. When it all goes tits up again, they will carry the blame this time.

I hope we get the chance to find out!

[SuperAllyMcleod]

Only just back in the top Scottish league and already saying it's 'inevitable' they will leave for a wealthier league elsewhere.

Someone should tell the 4 yr old that no one likes a cocky brat.

They missed the perfect opportunity to play in England when they dropped to League 2 - they should have said "thanks, but no thanks, we will go and start at the bottom of the English pyramid rather than the Scottish one".

Would have been funny to watch them struggle to sweep through those leagues!

[jacomo]

They missed the perfect opportunity to play in England when they dropped to League 2 - they should have said "thanks, but no thanks, we will go and start at the bottom of the English pyramid rather than the Scottish one".

Would have been funny to watch them struggle to sweep through those leagues!

England have proper Phoenix clubs like FC United and AFC Wimbledon.

The Rangers are an ugly zombie version - not risen from the dead, but undead. No one wants them.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

England have proper Phoenix clubs like FC United and AFC Wimbledon.

The Rangers are an ugly zombie version - not risen from the dead, but undead. No one wants them.

I agree no one wants them and they probably wouldn't have got in, I was just saying that that was their chance.

Personally I'd like to see both Sevco and Celtic go and play in the Irish league - after all, that's all they ever seem to go on about.

[Bostonhibby]

I agree no one wants them and they probably wouldn't have got in, I was just saying that that was their chance.

Personally I'd like to see both Sevco and Celtic go and play in the Irish league - after all, that's all they ever seem to go on about.

:agree: Been done to death, English football has its problems, mostly when they go abroad on international duty. The highly lucrative and protective brand that is the EPL has nothing to gain in terms of its worldwide aspirations by having religious based hatred tarnishing it marketability and future income.

Not to mention the damage the team formerly known as Glasgow rangers fans did in Manchester - England really, really don't want or need them. Their best bet is to go to Northern Ireland and Ireland respectively and knock lumps out of each other every month or so in the name of football, the hun will be better able to guard Derry's walls than they currently are and Scotland can move into the next century.

[CropleyisGod]

Dave King is answering fans' questions on the Rangers website.
First response is about their transfer policy.
Sit back, it's a long one.
It was posted during the England and Wales games tonight.

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-fan-response-1/

Boy...did he write that himself or have they supplied a few hundred fans with type writers? 24 carat drivel and that's just the content not the grammar and structure.

[Finn2015]

:agree: Been done to death, English football has its problems, mostly when they go abroad on international duty. The highly lucrative and protective brand that is the EPL has nothing to gain in terms of its worldwide aspirations by having religious based hatred tarnishing it marketability and future income.

Not to mention the damage the team formerly known as Glasgow rangers fans did in Manchester - England really, really don't want or need them. Their best bet is to go to Northern Ireland and Ireland respectively and knock lumps out of each other every month or so in the name of football, the hun will be better able to guard Derry's walls than they currently are and Scotland can move into the next century.

Always have to wonder about the Hun mentality.

1) want to play in the English league
2) need to try and persuade and convince them that Rangers would be an asset to their league
3) go on the rampage in a major English city.

That will do it

[snooky]

Only just back in the top Scottish league and already saying it's 'inevitable' they will leave for a wealthier league elsewhere.

Someone should tell the 4 yr old that no one likes a cocky brat.

If TRFC and Celtc move to the English league then surely what should happen is all Scottish clubs moving as well to what then would be a National league.

[Finn2015]

If TRFC and Celtc move to the English league then surely what should happen is all Scottish clubs moving as well to what then would be a National league.

Well I don't think they could argue against it tbh. I'm sure they would stick all the rest in league 2 and fast track the two sisters into the top league

[Deansy]

Dave King is answering fans' questions on the Rangers website.
First response is about their transfer policy.
Sit back, it's a long one.
It was posted during the England and Wales games tonight.

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-fan-response-1/

'in advance of our return to European competition'

Better chance of being relegated from the SPL than qualifying for Europe - obviously the penny has still to drop that the previous version of the Hun only achieved 'success' (if you can call it 'Success', years later and still sweating on leagues/cups being declared void !!) through illegal/immoral means !!

And as for the old chestnut - joining the English leagues - presumably the SA-Media didn't cover the last 'FXXK-OFF' England gave them and their partners-in-grime, Septic ??

[Ozyhibby]

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Well done Private Eye for picking up the story the Scottish media want to ignore. I would encourage everyone to buy a copy this week. It may persuade them to follow up.


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[brog]

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Well done Private Eye for picking up the story the Scottish media want to ignore. I would encourage everyone to buy a copy this week. It may persuade them to follow up.


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Great spot Ozy!! I'm off to buy now!

[Bostonhibby]

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Well done Private Eye for picking up the story the Scottish media want to ignore. I would encourage everyone to buy a copy this week. It may persuade them to follow up.


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I subscribe to the eye, not the first time the rangers have appeared but been quiet for a while now. They definitely had Craig whyte and cheeky Charlie green sussed out!

[Geo_1875]

They missed the perfect opportunity to play in England when they dropped to League 2 - they should have said "thanks, but no thanks, we will go and start at the bottom of the English pyramid rather than the Scottish one".

Would have been funny to watch them struggle to sweep through those leagues!

They didn't drop to League 2. The new club were granted accelerated entry to the league structure ahead of clubs from the pyramid.

[hibees 7062]

http://bit.ly/28PuzWM

[jgl07]

Well I don't think they could argue against it tbh. I'm sure they would stick all the rest in league 2 and fast track the two sisters into the top league
And which EPL Clubs are going to vote themselves into the Championship costing themselves millions and millions to make way for the uglies?

Apart from the top six to eight clubs, all other clubs are in some danger of relegation even with three down. With five down it would be even worse. There would also be teams ejected from the EFL.

It is not going to happen.

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.thenational.scot/sport/the-kicker-sfa-can-expect-taxing-questions-from-private-eye.19137?utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_term=Autofeed#link_time=1466677420


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[Hibee87]

http://www.thenational.scot/sport/the-kicker-sfa-can-expect-taxing-questions-from-private-eye.19137?utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_term=Autofeed#link_time=1466677420


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IF, and its a big IF they keep digging away at the SFA i imagine a whole can worms being prysed open

[Moulin Yarns]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/mike-ashley-ordered-to-pay-dave-king-and-sfa-legal-bills-1-4162198

Ashley to pay King and SFA costs

[Jack Hackett]

....and it all looked so promising when the writs started flying around :-(

[Jack]

http://www.thenational.scot/sport/the-kicker-sfa-can-expect-taxing-questions-from-private-eye.19137?utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_term=Autofeed#link_time=1466677420


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The Eye on page 94 cites the offshoregame.net report alleging that “the Scottish Premier League inquiry into Rangers’ use of undisclosed employment benefit trusts (EBTs) to pay players had either been misled or misled itself, ...

By my reckoning page 94 will be the back inside cover of the next edition. It's only got 48 pages!

Page 40 for anyone quickly looking for the article in the newsagents ;-)

[Ozyhibby]

http://thecelticblog.com/2016/07/blogs/resolution-12-the-verdict-and-the-victory-that-restores-truth-to-scottish-football/

UEFA have knocked their same club myth for six.


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[ancient hibee]

These people will presumably get a life one day.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

http://thecelticblog.com/2016/07/blogs/resolution-12-the-verdict-and-the-victory-that-restores-truth-to-scottish-football/

UEFA have knocked their same club myth for six.


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Quickly got bored reading that - anyone got just the bullet points?

[CropleyWasGod]

http://thecelticblog.com/2016/07/blogs/resolution-12-the-verdict-and-the-victory-that-restores-truth-to-scottish-football/

UEFA have knocked their same club myth for six.


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My reading of that is that "a Celtic blog says that UEFA have knocked their same club myth for six." :wink:

I'd rather hear it from UEFA themselves.

[JeMeSouviens]

Quickly got bored reading that - anyone got just the bullet points?

Some Celtc bloggers who complained to UEFA got a reply describing the New Huns as a "new club/company".

The gist of the complaint is that the SFA should have blocked the Old Huns' entry to the CL in 2011 because they owed HMRC for the "wee tax case".

[Famous Fiver]

I think we put it in a nutshell prior to kick off on 21st May.

'You're not Rangers any more.'

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/resolution-12-persistence-beats-res12tance/

More detail


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[SuperAllyMcleod]

Some Celtc bloggers who complained to UEFA got a reply describing the New Huns as a "new club/company".

The gist of the complaint is that the SFA should have blocked the Old Huns' entry to the CL in 2011 because they owed HMRC for the "wee tax case".

Thanks, given Sevco are now a new club, what do the Celtic fans want to happen now as punishment?

[JeMeSouviens]

Thanks, given Sevco are now a new club, what do the Celtic fans want to happen now as punishment?

I think they want the sfa punished or at least embarrassed. The allegation is they knew the Huns shouldn't have been allowed entry so Celtc should've got into the CL instead.

[greenginger]

Thanks, given Sevco are now a new club, what do the Celtic fans want to happen now as punishment?


I think they just want Sevco ( The Rangers ) referred to as a New Club and not the old Rangers who survived liquidation and were relegated to the 4th tier of football by a bunch of " Rangers " Haters.

[southsider]

I think they just want Sevco ( The Rangers ) referred to as a New Club and not the old Rangers who survived liquidation and were relegated to the 4th tier of football by a bunch of " Rangers " Haters.
Small point mate, they were not relegated. They went into liquidation whereby the dear old SFA allowed them to start again in the bottom tier. They received fines from the SFA for various things which are, as yet, unpaid. The SFA should start charging pay-day loan type interest. 15% per day from date of fine seems about right.

[Finn2015]

All things that should happen but let's face it, won't. The gutless lot in the SFA will continue to do everything they can to placate the huns

[greenginger]

Small point mate, they were not relegated. They went into liquidation whereby the dear old SFA allowed them to start again in the bottom tier. They received fines from the SFA for various things which are, as yet, unpaid. The SFA should start charging pay-day loan type interest. 15% per day from date of fine seems about right.


I know they were not relegated, you know they were not relegated , the whole of Scottish football knows they were not relegated.

It does stop statements from Ibrox repeating the nonsense and being copied in print by the media Sevco ar*e-lickers.

[brog]

Hey, we should all be celebrating. After all, we somehow survived Armageddon & em, won a wee trophy along the way! Bring on Armageddon 2 I say!

[greenginger]

Hey, we should all be celebrating. After all, we somehow survived Armageddon & em, won a wee trophy along the way! Bring on Armageddon 2 I say!


We're not the only ones.

Inverness, St Johnston, Ross County all won trophies during Armageddon.

Best thing that's happened to Scottish Football in a long time, pity it was not a permanent arrangement.

[Ozyhibby]

https://johnjamessite.com/2016/07/10/raising-the-roof/

John James on the state of the roof's at Ibrox.


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[jgl07]

Well I don't think they could argue against it tbh. I'm sure they would stick all the rest in league 2 and fast track the two sisters into the top league
And exactly who will move aside to create the vacancies?

[grunt]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/rangers-launch-legal-bid-against-ex-directors-mike-ashley-1-4201659


RANGERS have launched a new multi-million pound legal action against a number of the club’s former directors and billionaire businessman Mike Ashley.

Lawyers acting for the recently promoted Ladbrokes Premiership side allege that Charles Green, Imran Ahmad, Brian Stockbridge and Derek Llambias acted negligently during their time at the club. The Glasgow team believe the men didn’t act in the business’s best interests when they negotiated commercial deals with Ashley’s Sports Direct. The deals which the club are objecting to include an October 2012 agreement in which the directors allowed Sports Direct to have the ‘naming rights’ to Ibrox stadium. Rangers believe that the naming rights were given to Sports Direct at a price well below their true market value.

In November 2014, the club also entered into a Partnership Marketing Agreement with Sports Direct which allowed the business advertising space at Ibrox stadium. The club’s current management believe that the deal was also arranged at a price well blow its true market value. They also believe that Mr Ashley unfairly benefited and assisted from the alleged negligence displayed by Mr Green and his colleagues. Now Rangers are suing Mr Green, Mr Ahmad, Mr Stockbridge, Mr Llambias, Sports Direct and Mr Ashley in the Court of Session in Edinburgh.

The Ibrox club hope to recover a total of £4,106,470.83 from the action. They also want a civil judge to declare the Partnership Marketing Agreement void. The action came to light following a short hearing at the Court of Session on Friday. Advocate Craig Sandison QC, who was appearing on behalf of Sports Direct and Mr Ashley, succeeded in his attempt to get Rangers to disclose documents to them. The lawyer argued that Sports Direct and Mr Ashley needed access to the documents to help them prepare for the case. Judge Lord Boyd agreed with Mr Sandison’s submissions and allowed both Sports Direct’s and Mr Ashley’s lawyers to access the documents. He added: “I am content to allow the motion.”

The action is concerned with the alleged actions involving the club’s former Chief Executive Charles Green, Commercial Director Imran Ahmad and its former finance director Brian Stockbridge. The club is also concerned with the alleged conduct of Mr Green’s replacement as chief executive Derek Llambias. Lawyers acting for the side alleged that the directors didn’t negotiate the best possible deal when dealing with Mr Ashley and Sports Direct. The club’s legal team believe Mr Green, Mr Ahmad and Mr Stockbridge breached their “fiduciary” duties when they negotiated the “naming rights” for Ibrox stadium. The club claim the businessmen sold the naming rights for £1 and they say the true market value for the deal was at least £500,000 per year. The agreement was in existence for approximately two years but was never enacted.

The directors who negotiated the deal claim that they didn’t do anything wrong. They say that if another company made a rival offer, Mr Ashley’s firm would have to make another offer at a competitive price to retain the rights. Rangers also object to the Partnership Marketing Agreement which was agreed in November 2014. This allowed Sports Direct to secure advertising space at Ibrox. Lawyers acting for Rangers claim the advertising space was a sold for £1 and this wasn’t the true market value for the deal, and that Mr Llambias agreed the agreement with Sports Direct should go ahead. Rangers claim that Mr Ashley “assisted” in the breach of the “fiduciary duties” owed by the directors to the club. Lawyers acting for the individuals being sued by Rangers deny any wrong doing. The case will next call before the court sometime in the near future.

Love the 83p on the sum requested!

[Bostonhibby]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/rangers-launch-legal-bid-against-ex-directors-mike-ashley-1-4201659

Love the 83p on the sum requested!
Well if Ashley fancies it we might at least find out how "unlimited" dodgy Dave's wealth truly is and how much he might finally spend on the the rangers. Losing might cost more than the cost of a few freebies from Wigan and a pension fund deal for Josie O'Barton.

[grunt]

Well if Ashley fancies it we might at least find out how "unlimited" dodgy Dave's wealth truly is and how much he might finally spend on the the rangers.How do you mean?

[Smartie]

Looks to me like King wants to get in and give Ashley a good kicking when he's down.

I can't stand Ashley and I've enjoyed his recent misfortunes. But it might be nice to see him win this one and land a few heavy blows on King.

A continuation of the ugly scrap between this pair of odious individuals can only be a good thing.

[Bostonhibby]

How do you mean?
Pound for pound the slug that is Ashley has more visible and
active assets. Dodgy has spoken about wealth as per Craig whyte. Daily record supported "wealth".

[HoboHarry]

Can't see this as anything other than a desperate attempt to grab cash from somewhere/anywhere. Wonder what the total cost of the case and subsequent appeals will be?

[Velma Dinkley]

Whyte new the deals that were in place. If he didn't like them he shouldn't have taken over control of the club.

[Smartie]

Whyte new the deals that were in place. If he didn't like them he shouldn't have taken over control of the club.

I take it you mean King?

Your point makes sense to me - will Ashley's budget lawyers manage to prove that though?

[Ozyhibby]

I take it you mean King?

Your point makes sense to me - will Ashley's budget lawyers manage to prove that though?

Ashley's lawyer was almost comically bad last time he went up against King. Unless he has changed legal team I wouldn't bet against King.


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[Topographic Hibby]

Isn't the amount simply how much TRFC are due to Puma for unsold strips?

Or how much they need to fix the roof?

Or how much they need to see out the season?

Or how much they need to pay in legal fees for the myriad of cases they are involved in?

What was the SPFL club that was near to Administration.......?

[Velma Dinkley]

I take it you mean King?

Your point makes sense to me - will Ashley's budget lawyers manage to prove that though?

Yes. I wondered who would be the first to spot that. Well done.

[Springbank]

I'm not saying Warburton has been made to look a f@nny, but....

...8 days after Rangers boss was wheeled out in front of the press by his shyster board to tell the world rangers had lost out on Joleon Lescott because of his wish to be near his family (and nothing to do with money), I see today that lescott is joining aek Athens.

Either lescott must have a lot of family in Greece OR
was it really that rangers were skint all along and tried to reduce his wages at the 11th hour?

Only the Magic Hat can tell us which....

[Jack Hackett]

I'm not saying Warburton has been made to look a f@nny, but....

...8 days after Rangers boss was wheeled out in front of the press by his shyster board to tell the world rangers had lost out on Joleon Lescott because of his wish to be near his family (and nothing to do with money), I see today that lescott is joining aek Athens.

Either lescott must have a lot of family in Greece OR
was it really that rangers were skint all along and tried to reduce his wages at the 11th hour?

Only the Magic Hat can tell us which....

Seems the new club haven't grasped the concept of plausible deniability yet. Every made up excuse is shot down within days. :lolrangers:

[Northernhibee]

I was thinking the other day that since being relegated we've given them their fair share of humiliations. 4-0 at ER, 3-0 up at Ibrox at HT, that Scottish Cup Final, 2-0 at Ibrox with Lewis' beautiful volley - no wonder they hate us :flag:

[Mr White]

I was thinking the other day that since being relegated we've given them their fair share of humiliations. 4-0 at ER, 3-0 up at Ibrox at HT, that Scottish Cup Final, 2-0 at Ibrox with Lewis' beautiful volley - no wonder they hate us :flag:

Also: 50% of david gray's career goals have been against them. One in the ibrox trouncing you mention, one a screamer in the easter road demolition you reference and the last quite simply the greatest goal ever scored in the history of association football. He was born to hammer the zombie-huns

:flag:

[Jim44]

Seems the new club haven't grasped the concept of plausible deniability yet. Every made up excuse is shot down within days. :lolrangers:

The immediate response of the muppets on FF was to accuse the player of lying to Sevco but some of them came round to the obvious explanation that their club was telling porkies or at best was being economical with the truth.

[Seveno]

Also: 50% of david gray's career goals have been against them. One in the ibrox trouncing you mention, one a screamer in the easter road demolition you reference and the last quite simply the greatest goal ever scored in the history of association football. He was born to hammer the zombie-huns

:flag:

That is one of the finest posts I have ever read. Glory, glory to Sir David.

[Killiehibbie]

I was thinking the other day that since being relegated we've given them their fair share of humiliations. 4-0 at ER, 3-0 up at Ibrox at HT, that Scottish Cup Final, 2-0 at Ibrox with Lewis' beautiful volley - no wonder they hate us :flag:I hope they get similar from Inverness and Ross Co this season.

[The Pointer]

Also: 50% of david gray's career goals have been against them. One in the ibrox trouncing you mention, one a screamer in the easter road demolition you reference and the last quite simply the greatest goal ever scored in the history of association football. He was born to hammer the zombie-huns

:flag:
I like that - a lot.

[Marco G]

I'm not saying Warburton has been made to look a f@nny, but....

...8 days after Rangers boss was wheeled out in front of the press by his shyster board to tell the world rangers had lost out on Joleon Lescott because of his wish to be near his family (and nothing to do with money), I see today that lescott is joining aek Athens.

Either lescott must have a lot of family in Greece OR
was it really that rangers were skint all along and tried to reduce his wages at the 11th hour?

Only the Magic Hat can tell us which....
Maybe Lescott is taking his family with him (or maybe not). Do feel that Warburton is feeling the pressure though and being a mouthpiece does not really come that easily for him.

[Bostonhibby]

Maybe Lescott is taking his family with him (or maybe not). Do feel that Warburton is feeling the pressure though and being a mouthpiece does not really come that easily for him.
Agree, ersepiece is more his territory.

[Springbank]

Maybe Lescott is taking his family with him (or maybe not). Do feel that Warburton is feeling the pressure though and being a mouthpiece does not really come that easily for him.

Yeah although it would probably be as easy (if not 10 times easier) to relocate family to Edinburgh or bridge of weir than to Athens I would've thought.. if family was the big factor in the decision making

[Captain Trips]

Aek Athens, brilliant stuff from The Rangers.

[Weststandwanab]

Also: 50% of david gray's career goals have been against them. One in the ibrox trouncing you mention, one a screamer in the easter road demolition you reference and the last quite simply the greatest goal ever scored in the history of association football. He was born to hammer the zombie-huns

:flag:

That reads like poetry !

[Bostonhibby]

Aek Athens, brilliant stuff from The Rangers.

:agree: Within a matter of a couple of days Warblers been made to look an even bigger fool, and exposed yet another wee PR gaffe / lie by the new boys.

[JeMeSouviens]

From the Birmingham Mail:


Roberto Di Matteo has confirmed that Joleon Lescott turned down a move to Rangers because he couldn’t agree personal terms.

The Italian said Lescott passed a medical after waving goodbye to his team-mates at Bodymoor Heath yesterday but decided against a move overnight.

"It’s quite public that we had a agreement with Rangers,"he said. "He didn’t agree personal terms."

Porkies in Sevconia :wink:

[Joe6-2]

From the Birmingham Mail:



Porkies in Sevconia :wink:

Surely not?!!

[jacomo]

Can't see this as anything other than a desperate attempt to grab cash from somewhere/anywhere. Wonder what the total cost of the case and subsequent appeals will be?

Which is exactly the situation the club was in when it did those deals with Sports Direct.

Of course they didn't strike a good deal - they were desperate for cash and Ashley knew it. That's how business works.

As for stadium naming rights, IIRC both Moonbeams and Whyte tried to flog them but no one was interested in their toxic business.

[ian cruise]

The Rangers fans are revolting (but we already knew that!)

They seem to have turned their press releases away from us for a minute to get themselves all worked up because the Aberdeen official site shows no previous meeting between the clubs.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/7231365/Rangers-fans-furious-at-Aberdeens-new-club-dig-on-official-club-website.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-ScottishSunSport-ScottishSunSport-_-20160901-_-Football-_-560276588

[matty_f]

Good on Aberdeen. Let's all laugh at The Rangers. :greengrin

[Mr White]

Aberdeen have just went way up in my estimation :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

well said the dandy dons

[hibbyboy1]

Think the next time there at easter road the score board should have THE RANGERS that might pee them off a bit.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Think the next time there at easter road the score board should have THE RANGERS that might pee them off a bit.



or, we stop being nicey nicey and just give them the title they deserve... "The Filth" would look great

[jacomo]

The Rangers fans are revolting (but we already knew that!)

They seem to have turned their press releases away from us for a minute to get themselves all worked up because the Aberdeen official site shows no previous meeting between the clubs.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/7231365/Rangers-fans-furious-at-Aberdeens-new-club-dig-on-official-club-website.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-ScottishSunSport-ScottishSunSport-_-20160901-_-Football-_-560276588

They are so easy to wind up.

[hibees 7062]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

They call them zombies

[NAE NOOKIE]

The Rangers fans are revolting (but we already knew that!)

They seem to have turned their press releases away from us for a minute to get themselves all worked up because the Aberdeen official site shows no previous meeting between the clubs.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/7231365/Rangers-fans-furious-at-Aberdeens-new-club-dig-on-official-club-website.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-ScottishSunSport-ScottishSunSport-_-20160901-_-Football-_-560276588


:faf:

[O'Rourke3]

Did Dundee Hibs not sack their DJ for this

Sent via the bushes @ EM

[cabbageandribs1875]

Did Dundee Hibs not sack their DJ for this

Sent via the bushes @ EM


sure it was Falkirk

[Juice-Terry]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::lolrangers::flag:

[Highland_Hibee]

The Rangers fans are revolting (but we already knew that!)

They seem to have turned their press releases away from us for a minute to get themselves all worked up because the Aberdeen official site shows no previous meeting between the clubs.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/7231365/Rangers-fans-furious-at-Aberdeens-new-club-dig-on-official-club-website.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-ScottishSunSport-ScottishSunSport-_-20160901-_-Football-_-560276588

"It's all about the Rangers". Yep the whole of Scottish football is laughing at you.

[Fife-Hibee]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

Hahaha

[jacomo]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

So, so good.

[AltheHibby]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

Brilliant. Had to stop in the street and watch it.

[Hibee87]

See the bit I dont get in this is they have given a reason why there is no history - Their website was redone in 2014 and doesn't contain the database of results. To me this seems entirely plausible and thus, making it a total non story.
All this foaming from the rangers and articles in the papers claiming clubs are having digs is only going to end in one very messy way. Most likely involving violence with their fans and others which will result in a death.

[Northernhibee]

The RangersNedia site reaction to the notice of complaint is great reading. Whining that it's all the big bad Hibs fans fault, if more Sevco neds had been on the pitch there could have been deaths and how the SFA should be personally thanking them for their support.

Staggering.

[hibs0666]

The RangersNedia site reaction to the notice of complaint is great reading. Whining that it's all the big bad Hibs fans fault, if more Sevco neds had been on the pitch there could have been deaths and how the SFA should be personally thanking them for their support.

Staggering.

What that says is that Rangers supporters are capable of murder. That is so sad.

[Highland_Hibee]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

Best thing I've seen today.


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[Northernhibee]

What that says is that Rangers supporters are capable of murder. That is so sad.

And of course the club thanks them for their restraint.

[hibs0666]

And of course the club thanks them for their restraint.

Yup - cheers for not murdering any Hibs welts even if they deserved it after making funny faces at our glorious heroes. No surrender!

[jacomo]

The RangersNedia site reaction to the notice of complaint is great reading. Whining that it's all the big bad Hibs fans fault, if more Sevco neds had been on the pitch there could have been deaths and how the SFA should be personally thanking them for their support.

Staggering.

And this is the club that wants to leave Scottish football and join the English leagues?

Their failure to condemn casual bigotry and violence will be noted.

No one likes them and no one wants them.

[Waxy]

Just a quick thought. Did the only other Scottish cup final between Hibs and Rangers in 1979 not also end 3-2 after another late header from a hibby? Bit strange that.

[brog]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

Magnificent!!!

[jgl07]

Given the demise of the old Rangers, is it not time to consign this thread with its four year old poll to the Vault?

We can the start a new The Rangers thread.

[johnbc70]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

Absolutely brilliant!

[The Green Goblin]

The Rangers fans are revolting (but we already knew that!)

They seem to have turned their press releases away from us for a minute to get themselves all worked up because the Aberdeen official site shows no previous meeting between the clubs.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/7231365/Rangers-fans-furious-at-Aberdeens-new-club-dig-on-official-club-website.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-ScottishSunSport-ScottishSunSport-_-20160901-_-Football-_-560276588


What a pathetic bunch of typical would be bullies they are, behaving like psychos, trashing cities, singing songs of hate and expecting to get their own way, but at the first sign of low-level stuff getting dished back to them, it's the outrage, the indignation, the victim card, all helped along by a spineless national media that is either too afraid or too blind to call them out and challenge them, preferring instead to be deaf to their singing and only interested in celebrating this idea that finally, they are somehow "back where they belong". Utterly pathetic. Beneath contempt, the lot of them.

[CropleyWasGod]

Given the demise of the old Rangers, is it not time to consign this thread with its four year old poll to the Vault?

We can the start a new The Rangers thread.
Lots still to play for.

Craigy's trial, the potential civil cases which might result, the tax case, and the potential effect of those on the liquidation.

Remember that Airdrie's liquidation took 9? years. That was simple compared to this.

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[Moulin Yarns]

Lots still to play for.

Craigy's trial, the potential civil cases which might result, the tax case, and the potential effect of those on the liquidation.

Remember that Airdrie's liquidation took 9? years. That was simple compared to this.

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We love you CWG

[GlesgaeHibby]

sure it was Falkirk

:agree: Referred to them as 'The Sevco Franchise'.

[CropleyWasGod]

We love you CWG
**** off.

At my age, I'd prefer lust.

[emoji6]

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[Keith_M]

**** off.

At my age, I'd prefer lust.


I presume you're also at the age where the lust just doesn't raise its ugly head as often as it used to.



:wink:

[CropleyWasGod]

I presume you're also at the age where the lust just doesn't raise its ugly head as often as it used to.



:wink:

At my age, it sure as hell ain't ugly.... it's ****ing beautiful :greengrin

[Finn2015]

Aberdeen have just went way up in my estimation :greengrin

Me to well done dons

[greenginger]

And, for a bit more fun, the Duff and Phelps pair are suing police Scotland for wrongful arrest and detention.

[CropleyWasGod]

And, for a bit more fun, the Duff and Phelps pair are suing police Scotland for wrongful arrest and detention.

Brilliant

I reckon they'll get their erses skelped by BDO soon enough.

Although the criminal cases were dropped, civil cases are a different matter.

[hibees 7062]

Absolutely brilliant!

:agree: Class :greengrin

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

[QUOTE=hibees 7062;4808812]https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

[Highland_Hibee]

Can't take credit for this but one of my friends who is a Celtic man shared this with me.

Ohh Warburton's a fanny
Lee wallace is a grass
As for Joey Barton
He never misses mass
They say WATP
But we know this is *****
They wave their nazi Union Jacks
And turn Zombie overnight

I dunno about the final two lines but it's a good effort nonetheless.

In related news I see they are raging over the Warburton sing along at Lewys bash. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[sleeping giant]

https://youtu.be/tfE2zN44vPE

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Fantastic

[majorhibs]

rangers died. Everybody knows that, they bumped loads of people for a huge amount of money, disgustingly & with no remorse, & now there is the new huns. Same disgusting, worst behaved in Scotland neanderthal followers, but WE, & THEY, & EVERYONE knows, its new disgusting huns, couple o years wishy washy history, but new huns, second newest club in Scottish divisions, there has never been a more deserving set of newly formed bigoted trumpets rife for the windup than the club formed by a yorkshire conman in 2012. &, all credit to Aberdeen FC. They stand up to the bigoted biased pish coming out of Scotland as well as Hibs, & while on the subject, the tic & lawell are complicit but obviously pound signs in eyes there. If any league would have the bigots, one set of thiefs fi 1888 & one set of shameless bigoted bump any & all creditors fi 2012, who are amazingly EVEN worse than the knuckle draggers they replaced, well that league would be SO welcomed by me. 60k gauranteed, slavering bigoted hate filled lunatics going cheap, one wi a history fi 1888 they know nowt about although they sing about it wrongly all the time, & another set of of the wall bigots following a club formed in 2012 with a staggering 3 (Scottish 3rd, 2nd, 1st division) titles behind this NEW club. :flag:

[MrSmith]

rangers died. Everybody knows that, they bumped loads of people for a huge amount of money, disgustingly & with no remorse, & now there is the new huns. Same disgusting, worst behaved in Scotland neanderthal followers, but WE, & THEY, & EVERYONE knows, its new disgusting huns, couple o years wishy washy history, but new huns, second newest club in Scottish divisions, there has never been a more deserving set of newly formed bigoted trumpets rife for the windup than the club formed by a yorkshire conman in 2012. &, all credit to Aberdeen FC. They stand up to the bigoted biased pish coming out of Scotland as well as Hibs, & while on the subject, the tic & lawell are complicit but obviously pound signs in eyes there. If any league would have the bigots, one set of thiefs fi 1888 & one set of shameless bigoted bump any & all creditors fi 2012, who are amazingly EVEN worse than the knuckle draggers they replaced, well that league would be SO welcomed by me. 60k gauranteed, slavering bigoted hate filled lunatics going cheap, one wi a history fi 1888 they know nowt about although they sing about it wrongly all the time, & another set of of the wall bigots following a club formed in 2012 with a staggering 3 (Scottish 3rd, 2nd, 1st division) titles behind this NEW club. :flag:

Tin hat on ... to be fair to Celtic, their fans have been superb in supporting us against the media and the rangers whores! Spend time on twitter and you will see them challenging everything coming out of the succulent lamb media re us and refusal to report on Res12 and that brings me nicely to Lawell, there is no love lost there with Celtic fans with his silence and lack of action/movement in supporting Res12 has them fuming.

just sayin' like :)

[WeeRussell]

Tin hat on ... to be fair to Celtic, their fans have been superb in supporting us against the media and the rangers whores! Spend time on twitter and you will see them challenging everything coming out of the succulent lamb media re us and refusal to report on Res12 and that brings me nicely to Lawell, there is no love lost there with Celtic fans with his silence and lack of action/movement in supporting Res12 has them fuming.

just sayin' like :)

They will always be good at hating Rangers. Doesn't mean they deserve any credit from us for it.

[tamig]

They will always be good at hating Rangers. Doesn't mean they deserve any credit from us for it.

Exactly. Would have been the same reaction from them if the hun rants were against almost any other club.

[Ozyhibby]

They will always be good at hating Rangers. Doesn't mean they deserve any credit from us for it.

That 100% correct. Sevco could have been 100% innocent while we run amok petrol bombing them and Celtic fans would still blame Sevco.
However I no longer think of them as two cheeks of the same arse. Celtic fans do appear to be slowly moving with the times on the sectarian front. Sevconians on the other hand....


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[flash]

I am no lover of Celtic but fail to see how anything they do can be classed as sectarian.

[Jim44]

I am no lover of Celtic but fail to see how anything they do can be classed as sectarian.

And there was me thinking that singing IRA songs was sectarian. Have they changed the definition of sectarian?

[Ozyhibby]

And there was me thinking that singing IRA songs was sectarian. Have they changed the definition of sectarian?

There are technicalities that can be argued there but I'm not really up for it. [emoji3]


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[magpie1892]

This English journalist didn't get the memo. The the hun will want to know who is writing this! (Here's a clue, guys, his name is at the top of the piece).

The truth will out - it always does. Makes denying them their first ever trophy on 21/5 that little bit sweeter when the MSM tell the truth about sevco 5088:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3777660/Rangers-manager-Mark-Warburton-says-players-t-enjoy-Old-Firm-derby-shouldn-t-playing-football.html

"Celtic and Rangers have not played each other in Scotland's top flight since the latter entered liquidation in 2012.

"Rangers were forced to reconstitute as a new club placed in the third division and have subsequently risen through the ranks to re-join the Premiership this season."

[majorhibs]

Tin hat on ... to be fair to Celtic, their fans have been superb in supporting us against the media and the rangers whores! Spend time on twitter and you will see them challenging everything coming out of the succulent lamb media re us and refusal to report on Res12 and that brings me nicely to Lawell, there is no love lost there with Celtic fans with his silence and lack of action/movement in supporting Res12 has them fuming.

just sayin' like :)


They will always be good at hating Rangers. Doesn't mean they deserve any credit from us for it.


That 100% correct. Sevco could have been 100% innocent while we run amok petrol bombing them and Celtic fans would still blame Sevco.
However I no longer think of them as two cheeks of the same arse. Celtic fans do appear to be slowly moving with the times on the sectarian front. Sevconians on the other hand....


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Aye, hats of tae ye Mr Smith for putting me right, no up tae speed on this twitter etc caper, while I am nae lover of ´glesgae´ and its in yer face people, the tic have in the last fewyears shown sighs o movin into the 20th (nae typo, their opposites are in the 16th) century, all supports have their outside at the edges elements but for me the tic are actually moving a bit forward. This new, totally out there entity formed in 2012 & after a palaver now led by a glib & shameless charlatan who appears to have an even better bulletproof back than the cowboy called green that he replaced, but as originally implied tic are actually about 3 centuries ahead of the zombie new club called sevco or somethin. Of course bein telt yer a ton out of date, well cannae be that bad when what your held up against are so firmly stuck in their "1690" glory- But really huns & traynor & daily rangers, it ISNAE just us who you play against who see you as neanderthals. Really, the WORLD sees you as neanderthals- & not likeable cuddly neanderthals. when you embarressments die, the whole of Scotland, will be a much richer country for it.

[northstandhibby]

Aye, hats of tae ye Mr Smith for putting me right, no up tae speed on this twitter etc caper, while I am nae lover of ´glesgae´ and its in yer face people, the tic have in the last fewyears shown sighs o movin into the 20th (nae typo, their opposites are in the 16th) century, all supports have their outside at the edges elements but for me the tic are actually moving a bit forward. This new, totally out there entity formed in 2012 & after a palaver now led by a glib & shameless charlatan who appears to have an even better bulletproof back than the cowboy called green that he replaced, but as originally implied tic are actually about 3 centuries ahead of the zombie new club called sevco or somethin. Of course bein telt yer a ton out of date, well cannae be that bad when what your held up against are so firmly stuck in their "1690" glory- But really huns & traynor & daily rangers, it ISNAE just us who you play against who see you as neanderthals. Really, the WORLD sees you as neanderthals- & not likeable cuddly neanderthals. when you embarressments die, the whole of Scotland, will be a much richer country for it.

:top marks

You make a lot of very good points. Even some Sellick fans don't want the Old/New firm derby back.





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[WeeRussell]

That 100% correct. Sevco could have been 100% innocent while we run amok petrol bombing them and Celtic fans would still blame Sevco.
However I no longer think of them as two cheeks of the same arse. Celtic fans do appear to be slowly moving with the times on the sectarian front. Sevconians on the other hand....


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Yep - pretty much where I am at. I still hate Celtic, but I don't hate any football team as much as Rangers, and I am very confident I never will.

[Seveno]

I am amazed to find that I hate The Rangers even more than I hated the club that used to be Rangers.

[Bostonhibby]

I am amazed to find that I hate The Rangers even more than I hated the club that used to be Rangers.
Likewise, but I am developing a real dislike for those barstewards who follow west of Scotland FC and Scottish cup FC as well, their violence marred the final for me and thank goodness the daily record exposed them for what they are.



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[Ozyhibby]

NY Times calls it
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[JimBHibees]

Likewise, but I am developing a real dislike for those barstewards who follow west of Scotland FC and Scottish cup FC as well, their violence marred the final for me and thank goodness the daily record exposed them for what they are.



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:not worth :faf::faf:

[southsider]

Yep - pretty much where I am at. I still hate Celtic, but I don't hate any football team as much as Rangers, and I am very confident I never will.
The best thing Celtic fans could do is to stop the IRA stuff. Thereby claim the moral high ground and let sevco stink in their vile sectarian filth. Will watch The New Glasgow Derby on Saturday and hope Leigh scores a hat-trick. Anyone know the odds ?

[CropleyWasGod]

NY Times calls it
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"A" Glasgow derby, shirley? :greengrin

[Malthibby]

This English journalist didn't get the memo. The the hun will want to know who is writing this! (Here's a clue, guys, his name is at the top of the piece).

The truth will out - it always does. Makes denying them their first ever trophy on 21/5 that little bit sweeter when the MSM tell the truth about sevco 5088:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3777660/Rangers-manager-Mark-Warburton-says-players-t-enjoy-Old-Firm-derby-shouldn-t-playing-football.html

"Celtic and Rangers have not played each other in Scotland's top flight since the latter entered liquidation in 2012.

"Rangers were forced to reconstitute as a new club placed in the third division and have subsequently risen through the ranks to re-join the Premiership this season."


So cool, just a pity the morally compromised Scottish meeja can't bring themselves to report the truth.

[Hibs Class]

This English journalist didn't get the memo. The the hun will want to know who is writing this! (Here's a clue, guys, his name is at the top of the piece).

The truth will out - it always does. Makes denying them their first ever trophy on 21/5 that little bit sweeter when the MSM tell the truth about sevco 5088:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3777660/Rangers-manager-Mark-Warburton-says-players-t-enjoy-Old-Firm-derby-shouldn-t-playing-football.html

"Celtic and Rangers have not played each other in Scotland's top flight since the latter entered liquidation in 2012.

"Rangers were forced to reconstitute as a new club placed in the third division and have subsequently risen through the ranks to re-join the Premiership this season."

Decent effort, although sloppy use of "rejoin".

[jabis]

Fantastic

"They are zombies",same guy😂

Sorry can't do a link!

[magpie1892]

Decent effort, although sloppy use of "rejoin".

Dammit, missed that. 7/10?

[jacomo]

Dammit, missed that. 7/10?

Generous at that. Definite fence-sitting going on there.

Just as Walter Smith himself said: Rangers died. Same fans, but they had to build a new club.

[Spike Mandela]

JohnJames and Phil Macg blogs both stating that Brian Kennedy showing an interest in buying control of Rangers on the proviso that King goes.

[The Captain....]

JohnJames and Phil Macg blogs both stating that Brian Kennedy showing an interest in buying control of Rangers on the proviso that King goes.

Indeed...with further speculation that Rangers require additional funding or will be skint by October..by all things Sauzee let them go to the wall again.

[northstandhibby]

JohnJames and Phil Macg blogs both stating that Brian Kennedy showing an interest in buying control of Rangers on the proviso that King goes.


It was reported Paul Murray had instigated contact with Mr Kennedy without Lying King's approval. Don't know how truthful that actually is. I would suspect the Lying King would be fully informed and expecting top rate if Mr Kennedy had been approached.

Mr Kennedy apparently has deep pockets, my advice to him would be to stay clear of such a volatile investment.



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[MichaelTheCelt]

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[matty_f]

http://i64.tinypic.com/2468cia.png

:hilarious

[Eyrie]

JohnJames and Phil Macg blogs both stating that Brian Kennedy showing an interest in buying control of Rangers on the proviso that King goes.

Kennedy could have formed Sevco for buttons himself after the original Huns were liquidated, so I'd be very surprised if he was willing to now give more money to King for a basket case.

Besides, the Ibrox pitch is too small and the stands too big for it to be used for rugby.

[CropleyWasGod]

Kennedy could have formed Sevco for buttons himself after the original Huns were liquidated, so I'd be very surprised if he was willing to now give more money to King for a basket case.

Besides, the Ibrox pitch is too small and the stands too big for it to be used for rugby.
That's not quite true.

He offered ...as part of the Blue Knights, I think......a couple of million. That was rejected and the Green Knights offer of 5.5m was eventually accepted.

However, I too would be surprised if he gets involved this time. If anything, he'll wait for the next implosion.

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[Ozyhibby]

Anybody serious about sorting out that club knows it needs administration to get rid of all the dodgy deals that have been done and also lose the debt that is already been built up. The only way to avoid that is to put a lot of money in.


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[CropleyWasGod]

Anybody serious about sorting out that club knows it needs administration to get rid of all the dodgy deals that have been done and also lose the debt that is already been built up. The only way to avoid that is to put a lot of money in.


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Not sure administration would get rid of the contracts.

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[Keith_M]

Not sure administration would get rid of the contracts.

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Liquidation?




:wink:

[Jack Hackett]

Not sure administration would get rid of the contracts.

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A 25pt penalty wouldn't be good for their title aspirations either :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

A 25pt penalty wouldn't be good for their title aspirations either :greengrin
Would help everyone else's aspirations towards relegation for them though .......:agree:

[Bostonhibby]

Anybody serious about sorting out that club knows it needs administration to get rid of all the dodgy deals that have been done and also lose the debt that is already been built up. The only way to avoid that is to put a lot of money in.


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Agree, but surely it can only be a matter of time before dodgy Dave starts the much spouted about over investment? That'll make all the problems go away!

He's trading badly off their current cash flow right now. Nae new money and probably hoping for a sale with a reasonable profit, same as when he started

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[Jim44]

Chris Sutton on Warburton today :


But Warburton first hit out at the "negativity" in Thursday’s media conference then attempted to put a positive spin on the County draw on Saturday – much to Sutton’s disgust.

Analysing Inverness v Celtic today for BT Sport, the Record Sport columnist said: "Bad management on the pitch, bad management off it.

Rangers boss Mark Warburton staggered by negativity after 5-1 Celtic thrashing as he blasts: 'Nobody died'

"They’ve just had their pants pulled down by their biggest rivals and he’s coming out moaning about negativity?

"The job’s too big for him in my view. This isn’t Brentford. This isn’t the City. And he’s coming out with "it’s the best performance of the season? Do me a favour!"

[majorhibs]

It was reported Paul Murray had instigated contact with Mr Kennedy without Lying King's approval. Don't know how truthful that actually is. I would suspect the Lying King would be fully informed and expecting top rate if Mr Kennedy had been approached.

Mr Kennedy apparently has deep pockets, my advice to him would be to stay clear of such a volatile investment.



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Kennedy has talked his talk for years. Ask Stockport fans, after taking over them the only walk for Stockport was off the end of the plank! A shyster who I really hope gets involved wi the huns. What is it about that club that they seem to attract the biggest cowboys going? Could it be the biggest crooks looking for the easiest targets, spot something in the huns, that us mere mortals cant?

[Saturday Boy]

That's not quite true.

He offered ...as part of the Blue Knights, I think......a couple of million. That was rejected and the Green Knights offer of 5.5m was eventually accepted.

However, I too would be surprised if he gets involved this time. If anything, he'll wait for the next implosion.

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Blue Knights, Green Knights, and yet it looks like they've ended up with the Baron Knights.

One for the older netters :wink:

[HoboHarry]

Blue Knights, Green Knights, and yet it looks like they've ended up with the Barren Knights.

One for the older netters :wink:
Fixed that for you...... :greengrin

[Saturday Boy]

Fixed that for you...... :greengrin


Nice :thumbsup:

[northstandhibby]

Kennedy has talked his talk for years. Ask Stockport fans, after taking over them the only walk for Stockport was off the end of the plank! A shyster who I really hope gets involved wi the huns. What is it about that club that they seem to attract the biggest cowboys going? Could it be the biggest crooks looking for the easiest targets, spot something in the huns, that us mere mortals cant?

Just googled Stockport and Brian Kennedy.

You are spot on my friend. Seems Mr Kennedy took them over and ended up shafting them by basically pirating their stadium. Appears to be of the same ilk of Craig White.

What a bunch of greedy barstewards. I feel sorry for Stockport.

GGTTH

[CropleyWasGod]

A 25pt penalty wouldn't be good for their title aspirations either :greengrin

They have about a year to hang on before that 25 drops to 15. :greengrin

[AndyM_1875]

Kennedy has talked his talk for years. Ask Stockport fans, after taking over them the only walk for Stockport was off the end of the plank! A shyster who I really hope gets involved wi the huns. What is it about that club that they seem to attract the biggest cowboys going? Could it be the biggest crooks looking for the easiest targets, spot something in the huns, that us mere mortals cant?

Yep. He tried to buy us back in 1998 but Sir Tom was having none of it. Whatever anyone thinks of STF he has a remarkable capacity for spotting an absolute spoofer a mile off. He did the same when that Celtc minded shyster David Low came calling a couple of years back telling us Hibs fans that our club was worthless. These guys all talk the talk. But it takes bigger balls to actually deliver.

[magpie1892]

They have about a year to hang on before that 25 drops to 15. :greengrin

Gonna be a long year then. Skint by December without a massive cash injection from somewhere - but where? You're talking at least £10m to fix the crumbling stadium and cover their massive cost base - and this is money that you'd just have to write off straight away. They're due Barton £2.6m over the remainder of his contract, for example. Another liquidation appears more and more likely.

A second liquidation throws up an interesting question - will hun v3.0 be able to take their Div 3,2,Championship and Petrofac Cup-winning history with them when they re-emerge?

[Ozyhibby]

Gonna be a long year then. Skint by December without a massive cash injection from somewhere - but where? You're talking at least £10m to fix the crumbling stadium and cover their massive cost base - and this is money that you'd just have to write off straight away. They're due Barton £2.6m over the remainder of his contract, for example. Another liquidation appears more and more likely.

A second liquidation throws up an interesting question - will hun v3.0 be able to take their Div 3,2,Championship and Petrofac Cup-winning history with them when they re-emerge?

Unless they are owe the tax man again then they are likely to get a CVA. Although that may not be the preferred option for them to make a clean break from the dodgy contracts.


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[Jack Hackett]

Gonna be a long year then. Skint by December without a massive cash injection from somewhere - but where? You're talking at least £10m to fix the crumbling stadium and cover their massive cost base - and this is money that you'd just have to write off straight away. They're due Barton £2.6m over the remainder of his contract, for example. Another liquidation appears more and more likely.

A second liquidation throws up an interesting question - will hun v3.0 be able to take their Div 3,2,Championship and Petrofac Cup-winning history with them when they re-emerge?

I'm sure it will be up for grabs for a quid...just about what it's worth :greengrin

[magpie1892]

Unless they are owe the tax man again then they are likely to get a CVA. Although that may not be the preferred option for them to make a clean break from the dodgy contracts.


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Don't see how a CVA is any use to them. It won't fix the stadium, and it won't settle the VAT on their season ticket sales, which I believe has yet to be paid. OK, they'd be able to get rid of Barton, Senderos and Krancjar - a trio they obviously wish they'd never signed - but could see their better players walking also. That, and the points deduction will see them more likely to get relegated than win their, ahem, 55th title (!)

It's hard to see a way out for them other than liquidation unless they can find someone who can afford, and is minded to, write off at least £10m. Even then, they have to slash their cost base, which still - having apparently learned nothing from 2012 - massively outstrips their incomings. The season ticket money will last them until December and after that, the pot is empty. Ashley has effectively turned their usual (and not insignificant) merchandising revenue into an income stream for Sports Direct.

Nearly time to break out the popcorn again.

[jacomo]

Chris Sutton on Warburton today :


But Warburton first hit out at the "negativity" in Thursday’s media conference then attempted to put a positive spin on the County draw on Saturday – much to Sutton’s disgust.

Analysing Inverness v Celtic today for BT Sport, the Record Sport columnist said: "Bad management on the pitch, bad management off it.

Rangers boss Mark Warburton staggered by negativity after 5-1 Celtic thrashing as he blasts: 'Nobody died'

"They’ve just had their pants pulled down by their biggest rivals and he’s coming out moaning about negativity?

"The job’s too big for him in my view. This isn’t Brentford. This isn’t the City. And he’s coming out with "it’s the best performance of the season? Do me a favour!"

Chris Sutton's opinion won't mean much to yer average Hun, but the loss of the magic hat is starting to show.

[Smartie]

Don't see how a CVA is any use to them. It won't fix the stadium, and it won't settle the VAT on their season ticket sales, which I believe has yet to be paid. OK, they'd be able to get rid of Barton, Senderos and Krancjar - a trio they obviously wish they'd never signed - but could see their better players walking also. That, and the points deduction will see them more likely to get relegated than win their, ahem, 55th title (!)

It's hard to see a way out for them other than liquidation unless they can find someone who can afford, and is minded to, write off at least £10m. Even then, they have to slash their cost base, which still - having apparently learned nothing from 2012 - massively outstrips their incomings. The season ticket money will last them until December and after that, the pot is empty. Ashley has effectively turned their usual (and not insignificant) merchandising revenue into an income stream for Sports Direct.

Nearly time to break out the popcorn again.

What exactly is wrong with the stadium and how urgent are the repairs that are needed?

I've heard "the state of Ibrox" brought up many times but I don't know what the specifics are.

I remember seeing a picture of something coming off the Govan Stand roof but I don't know how serious that was/ expensive to fix.


It all went a bit quieter on their problems for a bit so I assumed they were out of the woods. The main sticking point that I see them having going forward is keeping "the hordes" onside when they are clearly and palpably unable to compete with Celtic. This will probably play out next year when they can't sell enough season tickets.Whilst they might moan about their time in the lower leagues, they were still able to win every week. If they'd been parachuted straight back into the Premier and had to play with the guff that was left behind after their previous insolvency event then they'd have been pumped every week. Instead of having the fans rallying behind their club and their perceived injustice I reckon the new club would have already withered away and died (again).

[Iain G]

Kennedy has talked his talk for years. Ask Stockport fans, after taking over them the only walk for Stockport was off the end of the plank! A shyster who I really hope gets involved wi the huns. What is it about that club that they seem to attract the biggest cowboys going? Could it be the biggest crooks looking for the easiest targets, spot something in the huns, that us mere mortals cant?

It could have been us!! Lucky escape I think? From what I recall his entire business case for Hibs involved re-signing Darren Jackson...

[Radium]

What exactly is wrong with the stadium and how urgent are the repairs that are needed?

I've heard "the state of Ibrox" brought up many times but I don't know what the specifics are.

I remember seeing a picture of something coming off the Govan Stand roof but I don't know how serious that was/ expensive to fix.


It all went a bit quieter on their problems for a bit so I assumed they were out of the woods. The main sticking point that I see them having going forward is keeping "the hordes" onside when they are clearly and palpably unable to compete with Celtic. This will probably play out next year when they can't sell enough season tickets.Whilst they might moan about their time in the lower leagues, they were still able to win every week. If they'd been parachuted straight back into the Premier and had to play with the guff that was left behind after their previous insolvency event then they'd have been pumped every week. Instead of having the fans rallying behind their club and their perceived injustice I reckon the new club would have already withered away and died (again).

Source is JJ but can't find another ATM.

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[magpie1892]

What exactly is wrong with the stadium and how urgent are the repairs that are needed?

I've heard "the state of Ibrox" brought up many times but I don't know what the specifics are.

I remember seeing a picture of something coming off the Govan Stand roof but I don't know how serious that was/ expensive to fix.




Good question, and I don't have the specifics either. I do know, though, that a number of individuals (various Celtc bloggers - twats like Phil Wotsisname, etc.) but also actual media organisations have contacted the hun press office (basically Mangetout Traynor) looking for details and answer there came none. I'm also led to believe that Glasgow City Council have expressed concern about the three stands that went up in the early 1980s from a safety perspective, and that that concern is still 'live'.

[greenginger]

What exactly is wrong with the stadium and how urgent are the repairs that are needed?

I've heard "the state of Ibrox" brought up many times but I don't know what the specifics are.

I remember seeing a picture of something coming off the Govan Stand roof but I don't know how serious that was/ expensive to fix.


It all went a bit quieter on their problems for a bit so I assumed they were out of the woods. The main sticking point that I see them having going forward is keeping "the hordes" onside when they are clearly and palpably unable to compete with Celtic. This will probably play out next year when they can't sell enough season tickets.Whilst they might moan about their time in the lower leagues, they were still able to win every week. If they'd been parachuted straight back into the Premier and had to play with the guff that was left behind after their previous insolvency event then they'd have been pumped every week. Instead of having the fans rallying behind their club and their perceived injustice I reckon the new club would have already withered away and died (again).

On Friday 16 th Rangers lodged a section 89 building warrant application with Glasgow council, number 16/02690/s89 , to allow the playing of football matches at Ibrox Stadium.
A section 89 application is for continued use of a structure.

Ive no idea if it's to do with the stand roofs or some minor matter, but I'm sure the daily rags will be on it if there's anything to report.

[Moulin Yarns]

On Friday 16 th Rangers lodged a section 89 building warrant application with Glasgow council, number 16/02690/s89 , to allow the playing of football matches at Ibrox Stadium.
A section 89 application is for continued use of a structure.

Ive no idea if it's to do with the stand roofs or some minor matter, but I'm sure the daily rags will be on it if there's anything to report.


Section 89 of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982 requires that no person shall use or permit the use of a raised structure for seating or standing accommodation unless such use has been approved by the local authority. Certain raised structures are exempt from this including any structure that has been granted a building warrant. I think this refers to a temporary structure.

Looking at Glasgow City portal it refers to the application in relation to a Football Match.

[greenginger]

https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=17341

maybe it's because they have not got a completion certificate for the stand repair work. :confused:

[greenginger]

https://publicaccess.glasgow.gov.uk/online-applications/scottishBuildingWarrantDetails.do?activeTab=summar y&keyVal=ODLE5LEX09500

that is the application.

[bingo70]

Were the rangers fans not moved out a particular part of the ground a year or two back because there were parts of the stand at risk of falling?

Was a midweek game I think

[Moulin Yarns]

https://publicaccess.glasgow.gov.uk/online-applications/scottishBuildingWarrantDetails.do?activeTab=summar y&keyVal=ODLE5LEX09500

that is the application.

There have been 3 Section 89s in the past year!!

[brog]

Were the rangers fans not moved out a particular part of the ground a year or two back because there were parts of the stand at risk of falling?

Was a midweek game I think

I know the roof fell in on them at Hampden in May! :wink:

[bingo70]

I know the roof fell in on them at Hampden in May! :wink:

Think that was because someone was on fire though

[magpie1892]

Were the rangers fans not moved out a particular part of the ground a year or two back because there were parts of the stand at risk of falling?

Was a midweek game I think

Part of the suspended roof in the Govan fell out, but remained attached, dangling over the huns.

[The Green Goblin]

Gonna be a long year then. Skint by December without a massive cash injection from somewhere - but where? You're talking at least £10m to fix the crumbling stadium and cover their massive cost base - and this is money that you'd just have to write off straight away. They're due Barton £2.6m over the remainder of his contract, for example. Another liquidation appears more and more likely.

A second liquidation throws up an interesting question - will hun v3.0 be able to take their Div 3,2,Championship and Petrofac Cup-winning history with them when they re-emerge?

I think I love you. :greengrin

That post made my day...

[GreenLake]

Were the rangers fans not moved out a particular part of the ground a year or two back because there were parts of the stand at risk of falling?

Was a midweek game I think

Fall, oh fall, oh fall

[magpie1892]

I think I love you. :greengrin



I'm flattered, but I'm not sure you're my type.

[Keith_M]

I'm flattered, but I'm not sure you're my type.



Are you prejudiced against Goblins?



:confused:

[magpie1892]

Are you prejudiced against Goblins?



:confused:

I admit it, I'm goblinist.

[Springbank]

I admit it, I'm goblinist.

Shan

[The Green Goblin]

I'm flattered, but I'm not sure you're my type.


Are you prejudiced against Goblins?



:confused:


I admit it, I'm goblinist.


Shan

:faf:

[Moulin Yarns]

On Friday 16 th Rangers lodged a section 89 building warrant application with Glasgow council, number 16/02690/s89 , to allow the playing of football matches at Ibrox Stadium.
A section 89 application is for continued use of a structure.

Ive no idea if it's to do with the stand roofs or some minor matter, but I'm sure the daily rags will be on it if there's anything to report.



The Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982, Section 89, requires that the use of a “raised structure” must be approved by the relevant local authority. In this context, “raised structure” means a platform, stand, staging or other similar structure, which provides seating or standing accommodation. This requirement does not apply where, a Building Warrant has been granted or, scaffolding or similar equipment is used in connection with building works.

Could this be for television positions (BT Sports or sky)

[magpie1892]

Could this be for television positions (BT Sports or sky)

Don't think so. All broadcasters have been using the same gantry in the main stand for, literally, decades. There's no reason I can think of why they would want to build a new gantry in the Govan stand (or at either end for that matter), especially as this would probably cause the whole lot to come crashing down around them.

[Kato]

Don't think so. All broadcasters have been using the same gantry in the main stand for, literally, decades. There's no reason I can think if why they would want to build a new gantry in the Govan stand (or at either end for that matter), especially as this would probably cause the whole lot to come crashing down around them.

It's for the pedestal they prematurely plonked Joey Barton on.

[.Sean.]

Few questions as I've no really got much time to go through the thread -

Whats wrong with Ibrox? Ten million to repair what?

And in the dim and distant past was Kennedy no interested in buying Hibs? What was the story there?

[JeMeSouviens]

Few questions as I've no really got much time to go through the thread -

Whats wrong with Ibrox? Ten million to repair what?

And in the dim and distant past was Kennedy no interested in buying Hibs? What was the story there?

Allegedly the roof on the 3 stands apart from the main stand are falling down. They're about 35 years old.

Kennedy made some public noise about buying Hibs in the late 90s around the time of "Hands on Hibs" which was folk trying to pressure Tom Farmer into either taking a hands on role or selling up to someone who would. TF told him to bolt, Kennedy (who was always more of a rugby guy I think) went and bought Sale Sharks rugby team instead. He then bought and neglected Stockport County to give the rugby team a ground to play at.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/football-opinion/brian-kennedy-sale-sharks-killing-3369157

He made his money in double glazing (Weatherseal), supposedly was a boyhood Hibby (but as I said, more rugby) and has Hun leanings through his brother in law (and doubtless the quantum of his ego :rolleyes: ).

[Hibernia&Alba]

Few questions as I've no really got much time to go through the thread -

Whats wrong with Ibrox? Ten million to repair what?

And in the dim and distant past was Kennedy no interested in buying Hibs? What was the story there?

Ibrox is certainly in disrepair and needs big money spending on it, which the glib and shameless liar clearly doesn't have.

[jacomo]

Few questions as I've no really got much time to go through the thread -

Whats wrong with Ibrox? Ten million to repair what?

And in the dim and distant past was Kennedy no interested in buying Hibs? What was the story there?

It's full of Huns.

[Onion]

It's full of Huns.

... and infiltrators from

West of Scotland FC
Hampden FC
Glasgow FC

[Keith_M]

When NewHun had their recent IPO, they promised to use a certain amount of the money raised (6M?) for urgent stadium repairs.

That obviously didn't happen.

[Bostonhibby]

... and infiltrators from

West of Scotland FC
Hampden FC
Glasgow FC
Scottish cup supporters are the worst of the lot. Thank goodness the daily record drew all of Scotland's attention to this new brand of football hooligans

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[greenginger]

Could this be for television positions (BT Sports or sky)


spot on, just looked on the weegie council web site and they've changed the application heading from football match to temporary t.v. Studio.

must have been getting too many enquiries of what it was all about.

[grunt]

spot on, just looked on the weegie council web site and they've changed the application heading from football match to temporary t.v. Studio.

must have been getting too many enquiries of what it was all about.

Presumably not for the BBC.


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[magpie1892]

spot on, just looked on the weegie council web site and they've changed the application heading from football match to temporary t.v. Studio.

must have been getting too many enquiries of what it was all about.

They have perfectly adequate studio facilities already. I smell a massive hun rat.

[greenginger]

http://lmmx.co.uk/companies/profile/rangers-international-foofball-club-plc/


1.5 million shares in RIFC bought yesterday. :confused:

First trade since May, someone sniffing around or the Rangers First crew or their like buying shares with their dosh instead of passing it on to the lying King.

[magpie1892]

http://lmmx.co.uk/companies/profile/rangers-international-foofball-club-plc/


1.5 million shares in RIFC bought yesterday. :confused:

First trade since May, someone sniffing around or the Rangers First crew or their like buying shares with their dosh instead of passing it on to the lying King.

Good spot - and where are the SMSM on this?

[Spike Mandela]

http://lmmx.co.uk/companies/profile/rangers-international-foofball-club-plc/


1.5 million shares in RIFC bought yesterday. :confused:

First trade since May, someone sniffing around or the Rangers First crew or their like buying shares with their dosh instead of passing it on to the lying King.

Brian Kennedy???

[magpie1892]

Brian Kennedy???

The trade is worth less than £400,000 though. Not sure why he'd bother with such a small deal?

[Keith_M]

http://lmmx.co.uk/companies/profile/rangers-international-foofball-club-plc/


1.5 million shares in RIFC bought yesterday. :confused:

First trade since May, someone sniffing around or the Rangers First crew or their like buying shares with their dosh instead of passing it on to the lying King.


The trade is worth less than £400,000 though. Not sure why he'd bother with such a small deal?


There are stories going round that SuperSwally is looking to offload all or part of the freebie shares he was given in 2012.

Source is a couple of businessmen I know in Houston (Renfrewshire, not the NASA base ;-) )


I actually thought he already had but, anyway....

[majorhibs]

Brian Kennedy???


The trade is worth less than £400,000 though. Not sure why he'd bother with such a small deal?

Was workin with a Stockport fan 15 odd years ago, over period few years, he went from so enthusiastic at someone takin over with such high & mighty talks & ideals, to sayin it was the worst thing ever, his club scunnered, in around 3 years. His vehemonce to kennedy was without bounds. But then, historians would know how that that clan took over the south west of Scotland in collusion when they & the campbells had the opportunity. Joking aside, kennedy, for what he did to Stockport FC, should never be allowed near a football team anywhere again. Unless of course that team is the the rangers.

[jgl07]

Was workin with a Stockport fan 15 odd years ago, over period few years, he went from so enthusiastic at someone takin over with such high & mighty talks & ideals, to sayin it was the worst thing ever, his club scunnered, in around 3 years. His vehemonce to kennedy was without bounds. But then, historians would know how that that clan took over the south west of Scotland in collusion when they & the campbells had the opportunity. Joking aside, kennedy, for what he did to Stockport FC, should never be allowed near a football team anywhere again. Unless of course that team is the the rangers.
I used to watch Stockport County regularly although I would never have classed myself as a supporter.

Over the last 15-16 years Stockport have plummeted from Division One (now Championship) to the National League North (from the second tier to the sixth). They now have to rent the ground they used to own, Edgeley Park, from Stockport Council.

Brian Kennedy was at the heart of this collapse. Remember that Hands-on-Hibs were chomping at the bit for Kennedy to take over Hibs,

His interests were always in Rugby Union and I was convinced that he was looking to buy Hibs to get his hands on Easter Road and use it for a new professional Rugby Union side which he hoped to put in the English Premier League. He did much the same with Stockport bringing in Sale Sharks. It never quite worked for Sale and they have since relocated to share with Salford Reds Rugby League.

[Highland_Hibee]

Any truth in the rumor Kenny Miller has been arrested for assault? Looks to have been a scuffle after the 5-1 game.


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[magpie1892]

Any truth in the rumor Kenny Miller has been arrested for assault? Looks to have been a scuffle after the 5-1 game.


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I doubt it. He and all of his team-mates were assaulted and spat on, remember? It was in the papers.

[oneone73]

No, his wife was assaulted. They're not pressing charges.

[hibs0666]

Any truth in the rumor Kenny Miller has been arrested for assault? Looks to have been a scuffle after the 5-1 game.


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Yup - lifted after pagger in a restaurant.

[oldbutdim]

Yup - lifted after pagger in a restaurant.

Brave bloke trying to split up a cat fight.

He deserved a medal.

(Obviously with the possibility of angry drunk women being around the presentation took place in the snug bar)

[Highland_Hibee]

To be fair drunk angry lassies are the worst. Expected to do ****** all to them but they gouge eyes, rip hair, stamp with stilettos. Least blokes you know you are getting a crack across the chops. Kenny seems a decent bloke. Must have got pretty heated for him to get involved.


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[hibs0666]

To be fair drunk angry lassies are the worst. Expected to do ****** all to them but they gouge eyes, rip hair, stamp with stilettos. Least blokes you know you are getting a crack across the chops. Kenny seems a decent bloke. Must have got pretty heated for him to get involved.


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No doubt he was goaded into it. As we all know the huns can react violently to a bit of goading.

[Highland_Hibee]

Someone just informed me in the new FIFA The Rangers are in it. Their fans were delighted until the team were seen doing the huddle before kick off. [emoji23] Statement inbound!


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[Topographic Hibby]

No doubt he was goaded into it.

...don't forget prolonged. Think the agreed time is 11 seconds, then slap her one. Better if you have a corner flag handy as well.

[Bostonhibby]

...don't forget prolonged. Think the agreed time is 11 seconds, then slap her one. Better if you have a corner flag handy as well.

Too be fair, maybe the lassie crashed an unstoppable header in with seconds to go. Some form of response is understandable, if you write a column in the record anyway:wink:

[Ozyhibby]

There has been a massive amount of rumours circulating the inter web the last couple of weeks that Sevco are in trouble with bills being unpaid and Hector getting ready to make a move.
Phil Mac has went from a blog every 3 weeks to about 3 a day recently.
There is nothing concrete yet but it's fun to speculate.
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/hector-gets-in-touch-with-old-friends-and-sevco-spins-out-of-control/



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[Bostonhibby]

There has been a massive amount of rumours circulating the inter web the last couple of weeks that Sevco are in trouble with bills being unpaid and Hector getting ready to make a move.
Phil Mac has went from a blog every 3 weeks to about 3 a day recently.
There is nothing concrete yet but it's fun to speculate.
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/hector-gets-in-touch-with-old-friends-and-sevco-spins-out-of-control/



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Surely they won't bump their majesty again? Wtf is the point in singing every week imploring god to save her if you can't even hand over your taxes to her?

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[Jack Hackett]

Surely they won't bump their majesty again? Wtf is the point in singing every week imploring god to save her if you can't even hand over your taxes to her?

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Tbf to the moronic scrotes who follow follow, they've actually paid their dues. It's their Lying King who may have failed in his civic duty to pass the money on to it's lawful recipient...preferring instead to squander it on a trio of has-beens.

Tantamount to theft if you were to ask me :greengrin

[Deansy]

You can hardly blame the Hun shoud they go bust again - not as if the virtually 'non-punishment' from the GFA last time was off-putting - the major punishment came the fans of all the other clubs !

[fat freddy]

Both JohnJames and Phil Mac are also reporting on the essential repair works needed to three of the stands at Ibrox. Rumours that Celtic are refusing to sell tickets to their fans for the next derby in Govan unless they receive guarantees from an independent engineer that the stadium roof is fit for purpose, apparently the mechanical joints that secure the roof are past their sell by date and require replacements at a prohibitive cost. There are suggestions that Hampden may be used as a temporary home for the Scottish cup runners up while the repair works are carried out. Glasgow City Council are also aware of this issue and may have a problem granting a safety certificate if their concerns are not addressed. Also reading from multiple sources that VAT payments from the first two quarters of the year are being demanded by the tax man but the money has all been spent on the new arrivals at the training ground now known as Jurassic Park. Great entertainment being provided again by the bloggers as the lessons of 2012 seem to be getting ignored while the methods of Murray, Whyte and Green appear to be on a loop. Loving it.

[Bostonhibby]

Tbf to the moronic scrotes who follow follow, they've actually paid their dues. It's their Lying King who may have failed in his civic duty to pass the money on to it's lawful recipient...preferring instead to squander it on a trio of has-beens.

Tantamount to theft if you were to ask me :greengrin
They're all the same to me, thousands of cheeks of the same erse[emoji6]



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[jacomo]

Both JohnJames and Phil Mac are also reporting on the essential repair works needed to three of the stands at Ibrox. Rumours that Celtic are refusing to sell tickets to their fans for the next derby in Govan unless they receive guarantees from an independent engineer that the stadium roof is fit for purpose, apparently the mechanical joints that secure the roof are past their sell by date and require replacements at a prohibitive cost. There are suggestions that Hampden may be used as a temporary home for the Scottish cup runners up while the repair works are carried out. Glasgow City Council are also aware of this issue and may have a problem granting a safety certificate if their concerns are not addressed. Also reading from multiple sources that VAT payments from the first two quarters of the year are being demanded by the tax man but the money has all been spent on the new arrivals at the training ground now known as Jurassic Park. Great entertainment being provided again by the bloggers as the lessons of 2012 seem to be getting ignored while the methods of Murray, Whyte and Green appear to be on a loop. Loving it.

You really think Glasgae Cooncil will deny them a safety certificate?

I'd imagine they'll just cross their fingers and hope for the best.

[GreenLake]

Both JohnJames and Phil Mac are also reporting on the essential repair works needed to three of the stands at Ibrox. Rumours that Celtic are refusing to sell tickets to their fans for the next derby in Govan unless they receive guarantees from an independent engineer that the stadium roof is fit for purpose, apparently the mechanical joints that secure the roof are past their sell by date and require replacements at a prohibitive cost. There are suggestions that Hampden may be used as a temporary home for the Scottish cup runners up while the repair works are carried out. Glasgow City Council are also aware of this issue and may have a problem granting a safety certificate if their concerns are not addressed. Also reading from multiple sources that VAT payments from the first two quarters of the year are being demanded by the tax man but the money has all been spent on the new arrivals at the training ground now known as Jurassic Park. Great entertainment being provided again by the bloggers as the lessons of 2012 seem to be getting ignored while the methods of Murray, Whyte and Green appear to be on a loop. Loving it.

I expect Hampden will require payment for the use of the stadium in advance.