Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Ozyhibby]

Meanwhile, they've put next season's STs on sale. The Lying King says:

"We are now within tangible reach of Rangers becoming the dominant force in Scottish football again."

Aye, good one Dave. :greengrin

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[Famous Fiver]

If these EBT payments were found in a Court of Law to be remuneration which was not declared then de facto these payments were illegal. This gave the old Rangers an unfair advantage and they should, at the very least, should have had every trophy they won by cheating taken way.

Back round to Leean Dempster and Rod Petrie ' moving on'. They should have taken this all the way.

I know this has been done to death already but it makes my blood boil.

However, it is nice to know that at least some of the participants are awaiting a call from HMRC.

[MrSmith]

Reading that article in the Eve Times provides and insight into a non-stop car crash of a club intent on breaking every speed limit out there. It seems they will just do whatever they want and leave the rest up to those taking issue. I'm sure we are in the process of seeing administration or liquidation hence the couldn't care less attitude.

[Ozyhibby]

If these EBT payments were found in a Court of Law to be remuneration which was not declared then de facto these payments were illegal. This gave the old Rangers an unfair advantage and they should, at the very least, should have had every trophy they won by cheating taken way.

Back round to Leean Dempster and Rod Petrie ' moving on'. They should have taken this all the way.

I know this has been done to death already but it makes my blood boil.

However, it is nice to know that at least some of the participants are awaiting a call from HMRC.

Nothing must be allowed to get in the way of Rod getting that top job at the SFA. No rocking the boat allowed.


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[marinello59]

Nothing must be allowed to get in the way of Rod getting that top job at the SFA. No rocking the boat allowed.


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Why didn’t Celtic take it all the way then? Maybe because the legal advice was correct and they didn’t want to throw cash at something they were going to lose?

[Stonewall]

Why didn’t Celtic take it all the way then? Maybe because the legal advice was correct and they didn’t want to throw cash at something they were going to lose?

Celtic and Rangers or nothing without each other and both know it.

i think Celtic are trying to keep their own fans onside whist not doing anything to rock the boat.

The legal advice iirc was that as there had been an enquiry meant the authorities could not be forced to revisit the issue. If all the clubs had come out for a new enquiry then the SFA would have had to back down.

[Jack Hackett]

Good to see this old thread back on it's feet again. :aok:

[Smartie]

Good to see this old thread back on it's feet again. :aok:

It's good to see it back bringing bad news for Sevco.

It's also good that CWG has taken at least a couple of hours to reappear and tell us that it's not actually all that bad for them after all (to be fair to him, he has been consistently, depressingly correct throughout as well).

I long for a court case, possibly between someone like Tore Andre Flo and Sevco, where the Sevconians have to stand up in court and claim that they're not the same club in order to have to avoid being liable for the tax.

'Mon then CWG. Tear that one apart or I'm off to pornhub to look up that "orgasm denial" stuff my, ahem, "mate" told me about.

[Ozyhibby]

Celtic and Rangers or nothing without each other and both know it.

i think Celtic are trying to keep their own fans onside whist not doing anything to rock the boat.

The legal advice iirc was that as there had been an enquiry meant the authorities could not be forced to revisit the issue. If all the clubs had come out for a new enquiry then the SFA would have had to back down.

Especially given the narrow terms and evidence that was withheld from the LNS enquiry. The whole thing was a stitch up and unfortunately our club was part of it. The game in Scotland is rigged and there appears to be no way to fix it.


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[Ozyhibby]

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[Deansy]

Jeez, if I were Sevco I'd be saying it's just as well the now defunct Glasgow rangers don't exist, and leave their former players to sort out their tax bills like everybody else.

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Agree - statement incoming from the current version of the Hun makling it quite clear that they're NOT in any way associated with the previous version of the Hun ! Any such misunderstanding could affect future versions of the Hun when caught the next time !

[Ozyhibby]

Agree - statement incoming from the current version of the Hun makling it quite clear that they're NOT in any way associated with the previous version of the Hun ! Any such misunderstanding could affect future versions of the Hun when caught the next time !

They may have to if the players go to court looking for the club to cover given the have side letters saying the club will do just that.


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[green day]

If these EBT payments were found in a Court of Law to be remuneration which was not declared then de facto these payments were illegal. This gave the old Rangers an unfair advantage and they should, at the very least, should have had every trophy they won by cheating taken way.

Back round to Leean Dempster and Rod Petrie ' moving on'. They should have taken this all the way.

I know this has been done to death already but it makes my blood boil.

However, it is nice to know that at least some of the participants are awaiting a call from HMRC.

Aye, it has been done to death, but there are some determined to continue the borefest.

Theres people dying homeless in the street and this is what makes your blood boil?

Some people on here need to sort out what is and isnt "important" in life.........................

I await the "you are just a Petrie apologist" responses:rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

Aye, it has been done to death, but there are some determined to continue the borefest.

Theres people dying homeless in the street and this is what makes your blood boil?

Some people on here need to sort out what is and isnt "important" in life.........................

I await the "you are just a Petrie apologist" responses:rolleyes:

Jeezo, all that bad stuff happening in the world and all your doing is posting on Hibs.net. [emoji23]


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[green day]

Jeezo, all that bad stuff happening in the world and all your doing is posting on Hibs.net. [emoji23]


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I feel hurt........

You are a one trick pony, sporadically posting the same crap about Petrie on here every month or so with nothing new to say, just the same boring trolling.

[Captain Trips]

Aye, it has been done to death, but there are some determined to continue the borefest.

Theres people dying homeless in the street and this is what makes your blood boil?

Some people on here need to sort out what is and isnt "important" in life.........................

I await the "you are just a Petrie apologist" responses:rolleyes:

surely though "blood boil" is in this context on here. I have been "disgusted" at some stuff on football pitch and "disgusted" at reading some horrific crimes that have happened. Both in context of situation.

[Ozyhibby]

I feel hurt........

You are a one trick pony, sporadically posting the same crap about Petrie on here every month or so with nothing new to say, just the same boring trolling.

You come on a football forum to post attacking someone for having warped priorities because they care about football. Just thought that was a bit funny. [emoji23]


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[Famous Fiver]

Green Day

You are bang on the money.

It was poor presentation of my point on my part. Certainly, I should have added that metaphorically speaking it makes my blood boil. My bad for not painstakingly pointing this out.

Of course there are many things going on in the world which are far more serious and I accept that.

[green day]

Green Day

You are bang on the money.

It was poor presentation of my point on my part. Certainly, I should have added that metaphorically speaking it makes my blood boil. My bad for not painstakingly pointing this out.

Of course there are many things going on in the world which are far more serious and I accept that.

I'm more upset now that you used the term "my bad" tbf.😉

[HoboHarry]

Good to see Michael Stewart calling out King for the lying toerag that he is, even if Sevco fans do repeatedly fall for the same nonsense......

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/dave-king-insulting-intelligence-of-rangers-fans-with-utter-rubbish-1-4908115

[Onion]

Good to see Michael Stewart calling out King for the lying toerag that he is, even if Sevco fans do repeatedly fall for the same nonsense......

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/dave-king-insulting-intelligence-of-rangers-fans-with-utter-rubbish-1-4908115

Pressure building on King as each season passes. Sevco don't have the funds to compete, so look out for some ultra-dodgy financial shenanigans, extra strange SFA/ref decisions over the next 2 years as they try everything legal and illegal to prevent 10 IN A ROW :

Celtic - 10 titles in a row
The Rangers - 10 trophy-less seasons in the row

King will be hounded back to SA if he doesn't stop 10IAR.

[HoboHarry]

Pressure building on King as each season passes. Sevco don't have the funds to compete, so look out for some ultra-dodgy financial shenanigans, extra strange SFA/ref decisions over the next 2 years as they try everything legal and illegal to prevent 10 IN A ROW :

Celtic - 10 titles in a row
The Rangers - 10 trophy-less seasons in the row

King will be hounded back to SA if he doesn't stop 10IAR.
If they really are trying to sign players like Greg Stewart and Hastie from Motherwell then they really are knackered. Decent SPL players but not a chance in hell they are going to elevate Sevco to seriously competing with Celtic.....

[JeMeSouviens]

Pressure building on King as each season passes. Sevco don't have the funds to compete, so look out for some ultra-dodgy financial shenanigans, extra strange SFA/ref decisions over the next 2 years as they try everything legal and illegal to prevent 10 IN A ROW :

Celtic - 10 titles in a row
The Rangers - 10 trophy-less seasons in the row

King will be hounded back to SA if he doesn't stop 10IAR.

2 more after that and Celtc will match the Old Huns' 54 titles. Their structural advantage is such that they'll have to seriously **** up for that not to happen.

Depressing on one hand, but huge bags of Hun schadenfreude as compensation.

[Ozyhibby]

2 more after that and Celtc will match the Old Huns' 54 titles. Their structural advantage is such that they'll have to seriously **** up for that not to happen.

Depressing on one hand, but huge bags of Hun schadenfreude as compensation.

A two horse race is no less depressing than a one horse race if yours is not one of the horses.
Until we have some sort of salary cap system to encourage competition then we might as well enjoy the cheating bigots pain. Celtic’s revenue is still 4x that of sevco’s so the are going to need a massive stroke of luck to win a league v Celtic.


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[JeMeSouviens]

A two horse race is no less depressing than a one horse race if yours is not one of the horses.
Until we have some sort of salary cap system to encourage competition then we might as well enjoy the cheating bigots pain. Celtic’s revenue is still 4x that of sevco’s so the are going to need a massive stroke of luck to win a league v Celtic.


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:agree: I don't care that Sevco can't beat Celtc to the title but it's depressing that *nobody* else can.

[Waxy]

The Rangers. Almost certain they’ll bounce around between 2nd and 5th place for the next ten years.When Celtic do eventually lose the league it’ll more likely be to Aberdeen or Hibs.

[matty_f]

A two horse race is no less depressing than a one horse race if yours is not one of the horses.
Until we have some sort of salary cap system to encourage competition then we might as well enjoy the cheating bigots pain. Celtic’s revenue is still 4x that of sevco’s so the are going to need a massive stroke of luck to win a league v Celtic.


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Absolutely - IMHO, the longer Celtc stop Rangers winning something, the better for Scottish football

If they can stick it out long enough, Rangers will start to cut back on things, they can't spend enough to compete with Celtic and there's not enough value in the Europa League to justify spending loads to get there, so over time they end up much like the rest of us.

Then we only need Celtic to have a bad season and you'll have 4 or 5 teams capable of winning the league, which is a good position to be in.

I can't see how anyone can catch Celtic without a massive injection of money from somewhere. They are streets ahead on and off the pitch of anyone else in the country.

Rangers can't keep up with them as it is, and so the gap is only going to get bigger.

[Moulin Yarns]

Absolutely - IMHO, the longer Celtc stop Rangers winning something, the better for Scottish football

If they can stick it out long enough, Rangers will start to cut back on things, they can't spend enough to compete with Celtic and there's not enough value in the Europa League to justify spending loads to get there, so over time they end up much like the rest of us.

Then we only need Celtic to have a bad season and you'll have 4 or 5 teams capable of winning the league, which is a good position to be in.

I can't see how anyone can catch Celtic without a massive injection of money from somewhere. They are streets ahead on and off the pitch of anyone else in the country.

Rangers can't keep up with them as it is, and so the gap is only going to get bigger.

If that's the case then the SPFL will become nothing but an inconvenience to Celtc as they pursue their dream of Chamion's League group stages

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I'm more upset now that you used the term "my bad" tbf.😉

Does my napper in too 🙄

[HoboHarry]

Absolutely - IMHO, the longer Celtc stop Rangers winning something, the better for Scottish football

If they can stick it out long enough, Rangers will start to cut back on things, they can't spend enough to compete with Celtic and there's not enough value in the Europa League to justify spending loads to get there, so over time they end up much like the rest of us.

Then we only need Celtic to have a bad season and you'll have 4 or 5 teams capable of winning the league, which is a good position to be in.

I can't see how anyone can catch Celtic without a massive injection of money from somewhere. They are streets ahead on and off the pitch of anyone else in the country.

Rangers can't keep up with them as it is, and so the gap is only going to get bigger.
If Sevco are trying to sign players like Greg Stewart they are already cutting back......

[MWHIBBIES]

The Rangers. Almost certain they’ll bounce around between 2nd and 5th place for the next ten years.When Celtic do eventually lose the league it’ll more likely be to Aberdeen or Hibs.

No chance Hibs or Aberdeen will win it before Rangers. They have more season ticket holders than both clubs combined, we cannot come close to competing with them financially.

[lapsedhibee]

No chance Hibs or Aberdeen will win it before Rangers. They have more season ticket holders than both clubs combined, we cannot come close to competing with them financially.

One word. Leicester City.

[HoboHarry]

No chance Hibs or Aberdeen will win it before Rangers. They have more season ticket holders than both clubs combined, we cannot come close to competing with them financially.
We can if those bams continue to rack up debts at the rate that they currently are.....

[HoboHarry]

Two words. Leicester City.

Fixed that for you.

[Lago]

Absolutely - IMHO, the longer Celtc stop Rangers winning something, the better for Scottish football

If they can stick it out long enough, Rangers will start to cut back on things, they can't spend enough to compete with Celtic and there's not enough value in the Europa League to justify spending loads to get there, so over time they end up much like the rest of us.

Then we only need Celtic to have a bad season and you'll have 4 or 5 teams capable of winning the league, which is a good position to be in.

I can't see how anyone can catch Celtic without a massive injection of money from somewhere. They are streets ahead on and off the pitch of anyone else in the country.

Rangers can't keep up with them as it is, and so the gap is only going to get bigger.
Nope none of this will happen, Rangers will not cut back & be like the rest of us, Celtic will never have a bad season. It will always be the same old same old.

[Fife-Hibee]

:hahaha: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17583393.vanguard-bears-join-protest-against-protestant-discrimination-by-glasgow-city-council/?fbclid=IwAR3_LpSKZwZeudeyir0RjAEHPKLABsmMzZTn_3t-DQw-f447WzabutPYr7w

The statement from the SPAD said: "The decision taken yesterday by Glasgow City Council and Police Scotland is a clear attack on the Culture and Beliefs of the Protestant people of Scotland and in doing so have created a 'No Go Area' for Protestants.
"The right to assemble in a public place is a key civil and political right, and as such the state has a positive obligation to protect and facilitate and the exercise of that right."

:faf:

[Jack Hackett]

:hahaha: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17583393.vanguard-bears-join-protest-against-protestant-discrimination-by-glasgow-city-council/?fbclid=IwAR3_LpSKZwZeudeyir0RjAEHPKLABsmMzZTn_3t-DQw-f447WzabutPYr7w

The statement from the SPAD said: "The decision taken yesterday by Glasgow City Council and Police Scotland is a clear attack on the Culture and Beliefs of the Protestant people of Scotland and in doing so have created a 'No Go Area' for Protestants.
"The right to assemble in a public place and verbally abuse and spit upon anyone who doesn't praise the lord the same way we do is a key civil and political right, and as such the state has a positive obligation to protect and facilitate and the exercise of that right. We don't want to go around the corner and do it. We want to do it in their faces"

:faf:

Fixed

[Mantis Toboggan]

:hahaha: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17583393.vanguard-bears-join-protest-against-protestant-discrimination-by-glasgow-city-council/?fbclid=IwAR3_LpSKZwZeudeyir0RjAEHPKLABsmMzZTn_3t-DQw-f447WzabutPYr7w

The statement from the SPAD said: "The decision taken yesterday by Glasgow City Council and Police Scotland is a clear attack on the Culture and Beliefs of the Protestant people of Scotland and in doing so have created a 'No Go Area' for Protestants.
"The right to assemble in a public place is a key civil and political right, and as such the state has a positive obligation to protect and facilitate and the exercise of that right."

:faf:

"“I don’t know if Glasgow City Council has an anti-Loyal Order stance, or are trying to stop parades.”

(From the linked article)

They're not the smartest, are they? Very unconvincing supremacists. I just about pished myself laughing the one time I was unfortunate enough to stumble across a parade

[JeMeSouviens]

Phi McG on the latest Sports Direct v Rangers court case in London this week:

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/04/18/big-mike-has-a-good-day-in-court/#more-13364

[cabbageandribs1875]

Phi McG on the latest Sports Direct v Rangers court case in London this week:

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/04/18/big-mike-has-a-good-day-in-court/#more-13364


He admitted that the money wasn't currently available to settle the likely damages.

that was after ashley's brief reminded him that the final cost could be in the millions of pounds


oh dear, that's a shame :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

He admitted that the money wasn't currently available to settle the likely damages.

that was after ashley's brief reminded him that the final cost could be in the millions of pounds


oh dear, that's a shame :greengrin
I'm a little surprised that Ashley's team raised the subject. Seems to me to be an open goal for the judge to reduce the amount of damages awarded against Sevco...

[JeMeSouviens]

I'm a little surprised that Ashley's team raised the subject. Seems to me to be an open goal for the judge to reduce the amount of damages awarded against Sevco...

Sports Direct might be pushing for the court to freeze Sevco's assets.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I'm a little surprised that Ashley's team raised the subject. Seems to me to be an open goal for the judge to reduce the amount of damages awarded against Sevco...


i'm just going to assume the brief knows what he's doing :greengrin but i still wont be surprised if the glib and shameless one slithers away without taking a hit

[Billy Whizz]

Sports Direct might be pushing for the court to freeze Sevco's assets.

What’s his real beef with Sevco?

[Ozyhibby]

What’s his real beef with Sevco?

He has a contract with them and he wants it honoured.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-boss-steven-gerrard-calls-for-investment-as-he-doesn-t-have-magic-wand-1-4911583/amp?__twitter_impression=true


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[HoboHarry]

Sports Direct might be pushing for the court to freeze Sevco's assets.
Ah, I didn't consider that....

[jonty]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-boss-steven-gerrard-calls-for-investment-as-he-doesn-t-have-magic-wand-1-4911583/amp?__twitter_impression=true


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He needs to check the cloakroom for a magic hat.

[HoboHarry]

He needs to check the cloakroom for a magic hat.
Some baldy **** made it disappear......

[PatHead]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-boss-steven-gerrard-calls-for-investment-as-he-doesn-t-have-magic-wand-1-4911583/amp?__twitter_impression=true


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Take it Warburton took the magic wand with the magic hat.

[Deansy]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-boss-steven-gerrard-calls-for-investment-as-he-doesn-t-have-magic-wand-1-4911583/amp?__twitter_impression=true


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Instead of a 'Magic wand' surely it'd be easier for them to put the SFA on the EBT system - worked for them before AND would save a small fortune on brown-envelopes ?

[Smartie]

Phi McG on the latest Sports Direct v Rangers court case in London this week:

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/04/18/big-mike-has-a-good-day-in-court/#more-13364

Who is the "serious professional"?

[HoboHarry]

Who is the "serious professional"?
Stewart Robertson I think....

[Onion]

Absolutely - IMHO, the longer Celtc stop Rangers winning something, the better for Scottish football

If they can stick it out long enough, Rangers will start to cut back on things, they can't spend enough to compete with Celtic and there's not enough value in the Europa League to justify spending loads to get there, so over time they end up much like the rest of us.

Then we only need Celtic to have a bad season and you'll have 4 or 5 teams capable of winning the league, which is a good position to be in.

I can't see how anyone can catch Celtic without a massive injection of money from somewhere. They are streets ahead on and off the pitch of anyone else in the country.

Rangers can't keep up with them as it is, and so the gap is only going to get bigger.

If they really do tackle Bigotry in football and Sevco fail to win the title / cup for a few years, I can see their ST sales collapsing like a pack of cards. Still remember in the 70s/80s, a team called Glasgow Rangers had crowds of 5000 at home matches, having had quite large crowds when they were winning things.

[JeMeSouviens]

Stewart Robertson I think....

It is :agree:

[The Leith Dutch]

The statement from the SPAD said: "The decision taken yesterday by Glasgow City Council and Police Scotland is a clear attack on the Culture and Beliefs of the Protestant people of Scotland and in doing so have created a 'No Go Area' for Protestants.


I love when people demand their freedom to deny certain freedoms to others.

It's not a no-go area for Protestants. It's just you're not being allowed to wear your daft sashes and blow your stupid flutes while marching through areas populated by people you have a generational history of spouting bigotry against trying to get a rise out of them.

[HoboHarry]

I love when people demand their freedom to deny certain freedoms to others.

It's not a no-go area for Protestants. It's just you're not being allowed to wear your daft sashes and blow your stupid flutes while marching through areas populated by people you have a generational history of spouting bigotry against trying to get a rise out of them.
Not to mention lamping priests......

[PatHead]

I love when people demand their freedom to deny certain freedoms to others.

It's not a no-go area for Protestants. It's just you're not being allowed to wear your daft sashes and blow your stupid flutes while marching through areas populated by people you have a generational history of spouting bigotry against trying to get a rise out of them.

Sure I read somewhere but that they had done the walk for 10 years without incident. Why did they start marching there 11 years ago?

[Billy Whizz]

Is this a respected site?

https://twitter.com/aitkensdrum/status/1130527442337189893?s=21

[HoboHarry]

Where's CWG when you need him? :greengrin

[Keith_M]

Is this a respected site?

https://twitter.com/aitkensdrum/status/1130527442337189893?s=21


By Celtc Fans, yes.

By (the) Rangers Fans, no.

[Ozyhibby]

ROLLS BUILDING

COURT 28

Before LIONEL PERSEY QC sitting as a Judge of the High Court

Wednesday 22 May 2019

At 10:30AM (All Day)

Application Hearing

CL-2018-000726

SDI Retail Services Limited v The Rangers Football Club Limited


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[HoboHarry]

ROLLS BUILDING

COURT 28

Before LIONEL PERSEY QC sitting as a Judge of the High Court

Wednesday 22 May 2019

At 10:30AM (All Day)

Application Hearing

CL-2018-000726

SDI Retail Services Limited v The Rangers Football Club Limited


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Is this where the level of compensation payment to MA is being finalized?

[southsider]

Is this where the level of compensation payment to MA is being finalized?

Hi Oz any idea what happening ?

[Ozyhibby]

Hi Oz any idea what happening ?

Not heard a dicky bird. Not sure if maybe the case was put on hold?


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[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

It was due to be heard last week but was postponed as judge was not available. It was back in court yesterday and his judgement is due soon.

Need to follow john james as he is the only one who keeps up to date whilst Scottish media looks the other way.

Not heard a dicky bird. Not sure if maybe the case was put on hold?


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[HoboHarry]

It was due to be heard last week but was postponed as judge was not available. It was back in court yesterday and his judgement is due soon.

Need to follow john james as he is the only one who keeps up to date whilst Scottish media looks the other way.
Phil Mac addresses the matter the briefly in his latest blog. He says that they were summing up in court yesterday (which I had thought was the case) and that the judgement is due next month.....

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/05/23/happy-times-for-the-ibrox-klanbase-so-long-as-they-dont-pay-attention/

[Billy Whizz]

Always nice to drag this up

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/rangers-in-red-line-for-wages-but-good-news-for-celtic-hearts-and-hibs-1-4936820

[Ronniekirk]

Always nice to drag this up

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/rangers-in-red-line-for-wages-but-good-news-for-celtic-hearts-and-hibs-1-4936820

Dundee were even worse in their ratio and look where it got them Relegated
I assume The Rangers will just keep on the same road until the actually win something as there is no prize for not being in the Red


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[cocteautwin]

Always nice to drag this up

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/rangers-in-red-line-for-wages-but-good-news-for-celtic-hearts-and-hibs-1-4936820


I wonder where Hearts would be if they didn't have that anonymous £10m in contributions?

[Fife-Hibee]

Rangers sued for £1.1m over Ibrox disaster tribute garden dispute

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/rangers-sued-for-1-1m-over-ibrox-disaster-tribute-garden-dispute-reports-1-4938531

[Billy Whizz]

Been some rumblings last few days. Judge was due to give a decision on Thursday on SD v Rangers, nothing been published yet
Had a quick look on a Rangers forum, seemingly Mega store is closed, and all the lights are out
Anyone know what’s going

This appeared today
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08142409/filing-history

[HoboHarry]

Been some rumblings last few days. Judge was due to give a decision on Thursday on SD v Rangers, nothing been published yet
Had a quick look on a Rangers forum, seemingly Mega store is closed, and all the lights are out
Anyone know what’s going

This appeared today
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08142409/filing-history
I'm no expert on this Billy but my understanding was that the only thing to be decided was the level of compensation due to to Mike Ashley from Sevco. If the store is closed then it looks like Sevco have been run over by the Ashley legal team's Armoured Division......

[Billy Whizz]

I'm no expert on this Billy but my understanding was that the only thing to be decided was the level of compensation due to to Mike Ashley from Sevco. If the store is closed then it looks like Sevco have been run over by the Ashley legal team's Armoured Division......

Me neither, looks like they’ve tried to dissolve the Company, but it’s been postponed

[HoboHarry]

Me neither, looks like they’ve tried to dissolve the Company, but it’s been postponed
I think it's more likely have closed the store themselves as part of an out of court settlement with MA.....

[Keith_M]

I think it's more likely have closed the store themselves as part of an out of court settlement with MA.....


Rangers have opened a few new stores in Glasgow recently.

[Billy Whizz]

Rangers have opened a few new stores in Glasgow recently.

Click on the link, then People, then King, David Cunningham
Scroll down to find Rangers 2012 PLC
Scroll down and at the bottom, shows “The Rangers Football Club PLC
27th May 1899-31st July 2012”

[HoboHarry]

Click on the link, then People, then King, David Cunningham
Scroll down to find Rangers 2012 PLC
Scroll down and at the bottom, shows “The Rangers Football Club PLC
27th May 1899-31st July 2012”
But, but but..... the newspapers and Donkeycaster at the SFA said they wuz the same Klubb..........:faf::faf:

[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

But, but but..... the newspapers and Donkeycaster at the SFA said they wuz the same Klubb..........:faf::faf:
The judgement has been handed down just that our free press hasn’t mentioned it. JJ has posted last night but it is password protected and only available to those that support his site.

[HoboHarry]

The judgement has been handed down just that our free press hasn’t mentioned it. JJ has posted last night but it is password protected and only available to those that support his site.
It's odd that the press haven't mentioned the closing of the SDI megastore - it's almost like they have something to hide lol......

[Billy Whizz]

The Scottish Football Association will make a decision before the end of the year whether to pursue Rangers in connection with "alleged irregularities" in the Ibrox club's application for a UEFA licence in 2011.

Two years ago, the SFA tasked its compliance officer with launching an investigation into the application

Rangers are understood to have had an unpaid tax liability at the time the application was submitted which, had it been disclosed, would have almost certainly voided the application and Celtic would have competed in the early qualifying rounds of the Champions League rather than their Glasgow rivals.


The Light Blues maintain that the "Five-Way Agreement" signed in 2012 by the SFA, Scottish Premier League, Scottish Football League, the old Rangers and the new club set up by Charles Green means that Scottish football's governing body has no jurisdiction in the matter.


Last July, the Association's judicial panel agreed, and indicated that the case would be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland, if they decided to punish the club.

SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell told The Times: "I would expect that to come back to the board in the not too distant future.

“It [going to CAS] is still under consideration. We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it... but I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

In the Times and Scotsman today, but need to subscribe to read

[JimBHibees]

The Scottish Football Association will make a decision before the end of the year whether to pursue Rangers in connection with "alleged irregularities" in the Ibrox club's application for a UEFA licence in 2011.

Two years ago, the SFA tasked its compliance officer with launching an investigation into the application

Rangers are understood to have had an unpaid tax liability at the time the application was submitted which, had it been disclosed, would have almost certainly voided the application and Celtic would have competed in the early qualifying rounds of the Champions League rather than their Glasgow rivals.


The Light Blues maintain that the "Five-Way Agreement" signed in 2012 by the SFA, Scottish Premier League, Scottish Football League, the old Rangers and the new club set up by Charles Green means that Scottish football's governing body has no jurisdiction in the matter.


Last July, the Association's judicial panel agreed, and indicated that the case would be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland, if they decided to punish the club.

SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell told The Times: "I would expect that to come back to the board in the not too distant future.

“It [going to CAS] is still under consideration. We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it... but I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

In the Times and Scotsman today, but need to subscribe to read

Carpet being lifted, can kicked down the road, kicked into the long grass and nothing to see here. :greengrin

[matty_f]

The Scottish Football Association will make a decision before the end of the year whether to pursue Rangers in connection with "alleged irregularities" in the Ibrox club's application for a UEFA licence in 2011.

Two years ago, the SFA tasked its compliance officer with launching an investigation into the application

Rangers are understood to have had an unpaid tax liability at the time the application was submitted which, had it been disclosed, would have almost certainly voided the application and Celtic would have competed in the early qualifying rounds of the Champions League rather than their Glasgow rivals.


The Light Blues maintain that the "Five-Way Agreement" signed in 2012 by the SFA, Scottish Premier League, Scottish Football League, the old Rangers and the new club set up by Charles Green means that Scottish football's governing body has no jurisdiction in the matter.


Last July, the Association's judicial panel agreed, and indicated that the case would be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland, if they decided to punish the club.

SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell told The Times: "I would expect that to come back to the board in the not too distant future.

“It [going to CAS] is still under consideration. We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it... but I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

In the Times and Scotsman today, but need to subscribe to read

I think they should have their licence revoked for a number of years as punishment.

Or send them back to the second division again :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

I think they should have their licence revoked for a number of years as punishment.

Or send them back to the second division again :greengrin

Lowland league in my opinion
Still waiting on the outcome from the Ashley case too

[Bostonhibby]

The Scottish Football Association will make a decision before the end of the year whether to pursue Rangers in connection with "alleged irregularities" in the Ibrox club's application for a UEFA licence in 2011.

Two years ago, the SFA tasked its compliance officer with launching an investigation into the application

Rangers are understood to have had an unpaid tax liability at the time the application was submitted which, had it been disclosed, would have almost certainly voided the application and Celtic would have competed in the early qualifying rounds of the Champions League rather than their Glasgow rivals.


The Light Blues maintain that the "Five-Way Agreement" signed in 2012 by the SFA, Scottish Premier League, Scottish Football League, the old Rangers and the new club set up by Charles Green means that Scottish football's governing body has no jurisdiction in the matter.


Last July, the Association's judicial panel agreed, and indicated that the case would be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland, if they decided to punish the club.

SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell told The Times: "I would expect that to come back to the board in the not too distant future.

“It [going to CAS] is still under consideration. We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it... but I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

In the Times and Scotsman today, but need to subscribe to readInteresting read Billy, if I were Sevco I'd be arguing strongly that I'm Sevco and not the now defunct Glasgow rangers that were deliberately put into liquidation to avoid situations just like this.

The current governing bodies will just say they themselves have "moved on" from this. Especially if they didn't look hard enough at the reality at the time the liability was outstanding.

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[Billy Whizz]

Interesting read Billy, if I were Sevco I'd be arguing strongly that I'm Sevco and not the now defunct Glasgow rangers that were deliberately put into liquidation to avoid situations just like this.

The current governing bodies will just say they themselves have "moved on" from this. Especially if they didn't look hard enough at the reality at the time the liability was outstanding.

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It was from here
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/sfa-to-make-decision-on-rangers-uefa-licence-before-end-of-the-year-1-4946541

[Bostonhibby]

It was from here
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/sfa-to-make-decision-on-rangers-uefa-licence-before-end-of-the-year-1-4946541[emoji106]

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[nairn hibee]

How on Earth did other clubs agree to this 5 way agreement,surely Rangers were in no position to bargain

[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

Lowland league in my opinion
Still waiting on the outcome from the Ashley case too
The outcome is known to those that subscribe to the johnjamessite. No doubt also to the Scottish media but they will not wish to upset Mr Traynor.

[HoboHarry]

The outcome is known to those that subscribe to the johnjamessite. No doubt also to the Scottish media but they will not wish to upset Mr Traynor.
If it had been a victory for Sevco we would have heard all about it so I'm fairly sure it was a costly mistake by Sevco. The SDI megastore closed around the same time so I'm guessing that they have went their separate ways albeit it would have cost Sevco a pretty penny in compensation to MA......

[Ozyhibby]

The outcome is known to those that subscribe to the johnjamessite. No doubt also to the Scottish media but they will not wish to upset Mr Traynor.

If it was known to anyone it would be known to everyone. If it’s on any website anywhere, whether behind a paywall or not it would now be common knowledge.


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[HoboHarry]

If it was known to anyone it would be known to everyone. If it’s on any website anywhere, whether behind a paywall or not it would now be common knowledge.


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The closing of the megastore makes me think that something happened, wish I knew what....

[Keith_M]

If it had been a victory for Sevco we would have heard all about it so I'm fairly sure it was a costly mistake by Sevco. The SDI megastore closed around the same time so I'm guessing that they have went their separate ways albeit it would have cost Sevco a pretty penny in compensation to MA......


Not meaning to sound argumentative or anything but, if the Rangers Stores have closed, then what's THIS (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rangers+Store/@55.857599,-4.2557409,21z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4888473e7a38c223:0xf3b1d095aaea0 36c!8m2!3d55.857584!4d-4.2556726)?

I've walked past it a couple of times in the past week and it looked open.

[HoboHarry]

Not meaning to sound argumentative or anything but, if the Rangers Stores have closed, then what's THIS (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rangers+Store/@55.857599,-4.2557409,21z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4888473e7a38c223:0xf3b1d095aaea0 36c!8m2!3d55.857584!4d-4.2556726)?

I've walked past it a couple of times in the past week and it looked open.
It was the SDI store that closed as I understand it, hence I think there has been an agreement reached, albeit I would expect that it cost Rangers dearly. All guesswork on my part though....

[Keith_M]

It was the SDI store that closed as I understand it, hence I think there has been an agreement reached, albeit I would expect that it cost Rangers dearly. All guesswork on my part though....


Is that a different company?






Same club, though...obviously ;-)

[HoboHarry]

Is that a different company?






Same club, though...obviously ;-)
Sports Direct owned by Mike Ashley....

[CentreLine]

More here...

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/sfa-to-make-decision-on-rangers-uefa-licence-before-end-of-the-year-1-4946541

It seems to be protected somehow. Won’t open for me at least

[Spike Mandela]

It seems to be protected somehow. Won’t open for me at least

Not sure why I can’t copy link but johnjames site has more on the current situation and it isn’t protected. Have a look.

[HoboHarry]

Not sure why I can’t copy link but johnjames site has more on the current situation and it isn’t protected. Have a look.
The SDIR vs The Rangers is protected and that's the one that's curious. I don't get how he can know anything when no-one else of printing a thing. Doesn't add up......

[Ozyhibby]

The SDIR vs The Rangers is protected and that's the one that's curious. I don't get how he can know anything when no-one else of printing a thing. Doesn't add up......

There is no way there is anything on there that the SFM guys or the res 12 guys don’t know and would share for free.


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[Deansy]

The SDIR vs The Rangers is protected and that's the one that's curious. I don't get how he can know anything when no-one else of printing a thing. Doesn't add up......

Is this what you're talking about ?

A Cluster**** of an Omnishambles at Ibrox (https://johnjamessite.com/2019/06/13/a-cluster****-of-an-omnishambles-at-ibrox-2/) The ‘new improved’ retail deal has had its wheels fall off after a matter of hours. The following club statement revealed all:
“Supporters will appreciate that, in advance of last week’s successful conclusion of new commercial arrangements between Rangers and Sports Direct, demand for replica shirts and other products was low as a result of the boycott. Accordingly only limited amounts of stock were immediately available and we understand that the vast majority of what was available has already been sold. Unfortunately this means that we are not anticipating any further deliveries of Replica kit to the Megastore in advance of Thursday’s game. Rangers are liaising with PUMA on the production and sale of new batches of replica kit but this will unfortunately take some time to produce. We are currently working with our partners to ascertain what can be achieved and will let supporters know as soon as we have reliable dates. We apologise for any inconvenience and thank our supporters for their revived interest in the Club’s retail products.”
You could not make it up. It’s high farce. King was trumpeting how the ‘new’ deal would deliver £5m to the beleaguered new club, when lo and behold the laughing stock had sold out and the chances of new stock being produced to meet the ‘revived’ interest are somewhere between no hope and Bob Hope.
There is a fundamental flaw in King’s lying. He is not smart enough to see the big picture. He is a tactical liar with a limited grasp of strategic mendacity.
__________________________________________________ ________________
The preface to this article is an excerpt from a piece I published on the 30th June 2017. Mike Ashley has never met King. The fake news that he did originated in Donegal. However he saw King coming. Ashley invited King to Shirebrook on the pretext of renegotiating the Rangers Retail agreement. King flew in from Johannesburg to find that Ashley ‘had been called away on urgent business’ and when he later arrived at Glasgow Central he was formally served apropos Contempt of Court proceedings. Had it not been for a discredited judge, Peter Smith, who ‘retired’ on the 27th October 2017 a couple of days prior to his disciplinary hearing, King would have been imprisoned.
King’s consigliere, James Blair, has been so compromised by his involvement with the new club that he was tapped on the shoulder at Anderson Strathern and ‘invited’ to relinquish his partnership. Blair was initially perceived as a rainmaker but when this rain became acidic he had to go. Blair created an affidavit which stated that King was speaking to Jim White in the manner of one chum to another and not ex cathedra viz as the self-appointed Chairman of the holding company. Which begs the question as to why White and a skeletal crew flew to Johannesburg when he could have caught up with his old chum on Skype? When King boasted of having a cellar containing 28,000 bottles of wine, it later became apparent that he had ‘boosted’ same from his sequestrated Winery. Every last bottle was repossessed by the new owner.
King is not an intelligent man. He is not Teflon coated. He was merely a white European in a country where his rudimentary education and the colour of his skin gave him an edge. When those from the disadvantaged minority ( electoral representation) were given the levers of business and state, they had no business training. They were ripe for exploitation by King. Umgeni Water was his first big score courtesy of two bribes; one to a fellow fake accountant well met viz Ian Gregory Morris
It was relatively easy for King to pull the wool over The Takeover Panel’s eyes. James Blair became familiar with the City Code and spotted a loophole. King could sell shares to his cronies and keep the disadvantaged shareholders at bay. Now that they have been dealt with, he and his concert party have plans to breach the 50% threshold which would ordinarily compel them to make an offer to The Easdale brothers and others to procure the entire company.
King does not want to pay a red cent to James and Sandy. His Whitewash Resolution will rinse same.
The Easdale brothers were smart. When they required a £10m line of credit, Ashley obliged. The intellectual property was used as collateral. SDIR also shaved a few points off the Rangers Retail disbursements.
King and his carpetbagging cronies have used the kitchen sinks as collateral with Close Asset Management and are paying a much higher price for a fraction of the quantum that was available to the Easdales.
Those who agitated for change at Ibrox have all been rewarded. Our favourite pop-up director and fake communications supremo ( he had no experience whatsoever and it showed) is now employed as a ‘consultant’ to Club 1872. He is paid by King to squeeze every last penny from the Gullibillies.
Halloween Houston now sells Tequila cocktails. John Gilligan opened doors for him. John Brown has access to the Argyle Suite and comes a valiant second to Big Fat Derek Johnstone in the nosebag stakes. I am confident that there is no truth in the rumour that when the new club finds the net, flakes of pastry can be seen fluttering from Derek’s club blazer. His ‘doggy bags’ are the stuff of legend. Does he keep corgis at his Helensburgh home?
Mike Ashley wiped the floor with King and Blair. With a new season just weeks away the only Replica kits that are available are those that were manufactured by Puma.
Justice Teare’s decision on Elite has not been overturned. King and Blair have a manufacturer in place but no retail partner. King and Blair’s getaway car has had all four wheels removed and is propped up by bricks.
It’s a cluster**** of an omnishambles but then what did one expect from a corporate criminal like King?

[Spike Mandela]

Is this what you're talking about ?

A Cluster**** of an Omnishambles at Ibrox (https://johnjamessite.com/2019/06/13/a-cluster****-of-an-omnishambles-at-ibrox-2/) The ‘new improved’ retail deal has had its wheels fall off after a matter of hours. The following club statement revealed all:
“Supporters will appreciate that, in advance of last week’s successful conclusion of new commercial arrangements between Rangers and Sports Direct, demand for replica shirts and other products was low as a result of the boycott. Accordingly only limited amounts of stock were immediately available and we understand that the vast majority of what was available has already been sold. Unfortunately this means that we are not anticipating any further deliveries of Replica kit to the Megastore in advance of Thursday’s game. Rangers are liaising with PUMA on the production and sale of new batches of replica kit but this will unfortunately take some time to produce. We are currently working with our partners to ascertain what can be achieved and will let supporters know as soon as we have reliable dates. We apologise for any inconvenience and thank our supporters for their revived interest in the Club’s retail products.”
You could not make it up. It’s high farce. King was trumpeting how the ‘new’ deal would deliver £5m to the beleaguered new club, when lo and behold the laughing stock had sold out and the chances of new stock being produced to meet the ‘revived’ interest are somewhere between no hope and Bob Hope.
There is a fundamental flaw in King’s lying. He is not smart enough to see the big picture. He is a tactical liar with a limited grasp of strategic mendacity.
__________________________________________________ ________________
The preface to this article is an excerpt from a piece I published on the 30th June 2017. Mike Ashley has never met King. The fake news that he did originated in Donegal. However he saw King coming. Ashley invited King to Shirebrook on the pretext of renegotiating the Rangers Retail agreement. King flew in from Johannesburg to find that Ashley ‘had been called away on urgent business’ and when he later arrived at Glasgow Central he was formally served apropos Contempt of Court proceedings. Had it not been for a discredited judge, Peter Smith, who ‘retired’ on the 27th October 2017 a couple of days prior to his disciplinary hearing, King would have been imprisoned.
King’s consigliere, James Blair, has been so compromised by his involvement with the new club that he was tapped on the shoulder at Anderson Strathern and ‘invited’ to relinquish his partnership. Blair was initially perceived as a rainmaker but when this rain became acidic he had to go. Blair created an affidavit which stated that King was speaking to Jim White in the manner of one chum to another and not ex cathedra viz as the self-appointed Chairman of the holding company. Which begs the question as to why White and a skeletal crew flew to Johannesburg when he could have caught up with his old chum on Skype? When King boasted of having a cellar containing 28,000 bottles of wine, it later became apparent that he had ‘boosted’ same from his sequestrated Winery. Every last bottle was repossessed by the new owner.
King is not an intelligent man. He is not Teflon coated. He was merely a white European in a country where his rudimentary education and the colour of his skin gave him an edge. When those from the disadvantaged minority ( electoral representation) were given the levers of business and state, they had no business training. They were ripe for exploitation by King. Umgeni Water was his first big score courtesy of two bribes; one to a fellow fake accountant well met viz Ian Gregory Morris
It was relatively easy for King to pull the wool over The Takeover Panel’s eyes. James Blair became familiar with the City Code and spotted a loophole. King could sell shares to his cronies and keep the disadvantaged shareholders at bay. Now that they have been dealt with, he and his concert party have plans to breach the 50% threshold which would ordinarily compel them to make an offer to The Easdale brothers and others to procure the entire company.
King does not want to pay a red cent to James and Sandy. His Whitewash Resolution will rinse same.
The Easdale brothers were smart. When they required a £10m line of credit, Ashley obliged. The intellectual property was used as collateral. SDIR also shaved a few points off the Rangers Retail disbursements.
King and his carpetbagging cronies have used the kitchen sinks as collateral with Close Asset Management and are paying a much higher price for a fraction of the quantum that was available to the Easdales.
Those who agitated for change at Ibrox have all been rewarded. Our favourite pop-up director and fake communications supremo ( he had no experience whatsoever and it showed) is now employed as a ‘consultant’ to Club 1872. He is paid by King to squeeze every last penny from the Gullibillies.
Halloween Houston now sells Tequila cocktails. John Gilligan opened doors for him. John Brown has access to the Argyle Suite and comes a valiant second to Big Fat Derek Johnstone in the nosebag stakes. I am confident that there is no truth in the rumour that when the new club finds the net, flakes of pastry can be seen fluttering from Derek’s club blazer. His ‘doggy bags’ are the stuff of legend. Does he keep corgis at his Helensburgh home?
Mike Ashley wiped the floor with King and Blair. With a new season just weeks away the only Replica kits that are available are those that were manufactured by Puma.
Justice Teare’s decision on Elite has not been overturned. King and Blair have a manufacturer in place but no retail partner. King and Blair’s getaway car has had all four wheels removed and is propped up by bricks.
It’s a cluster**** of an omnishambles but then what did one expect from a corporate criminal like King?

Yip, that’s the one cheers.:aok:

[JimBHibees]

How on Earth did other clubs agree to this 5 way agreement,surely Rangers were in no position to bargain

The clubs and SFA wanted Rangers back in and seem to have contrived a way to brush the issue under the carpet. Celtic may bleat about it to appease their fans but IMO there is no way on this earth that their paws weren't all over the decision to agree to this.

[BILLYHIBS]

Where is CWG?

He was/is the Sevco expert!

:dunno:

[Ronniekirk]

What I think is significant to date is their dealings in the Transfer market They already appear to be settling to try and consolidate finishing second in the League again by bringing in players like Greg Stewart I know it’s early days in the Transfer market but their dealings will be one barometer of their Financial I’ll Health
If they don’t do as well in Europe this Season as last that will be another Financial Blow


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[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

There is no way there is anything on there that the SFM guys or the res 12 guys don’t know and would share for free.


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JJ has provided an addendum explaining how the judgement is handed down.

[Tynie01011973]

It seems to be protected somehow. Won’t open for me at least

SFA 'to make decision on Rangers UEFA Licence' before end of the year


PATRICK MCPARTLIN
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Published: 10:03
Thursday 13 June 2019

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The Scottish Football Association will make a decision before the end of the year whether to pursue Rangers in connection with "alleged irregularities" in the Ibrox club's application for a UEFA licence in 2011, according to reports.



Two years ago, the SFA tasked then compliance officer Tony McGlennan, with launching an investigation into the application.

Rangers are understood to have had an unpaid tax liability at the time the application was submitted which, had it been disclosed, would have almost certainly voided the application with Celtic instead competing in the early qualifying rounds of the Champions League.


The Times states that Rangers claim the Five-Way Agreement, "signed in 2012 by the SFA, Scottish Premier League, Scottish Football League, the old Rangers and the new club set up by Charles Green" means that Scottish football's governing body has no jurisdiction in the matter.

Last July, the Association's judicial panel agreed, and indicated that the case would be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland, if they decided to punish the club.

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SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell told The Times: "I would expect that to come back to the board in the not too distant future.

“It [going to CAS] is still under consideration. We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it... but I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

[Ronniekirk]

SFA 'to make decision on Rangers UEFA Licence' before end of the year


PATRICK MCPARTLIN
Email
Published: 10:03
Thursday 13 June 2019

311
HAVE YOUR SAY

The Scottish Football Association will make a decision before the end of the year whether to pursue Rangers in connection with "alleged irregularities" in the Ibrox club's application for a UEFA licence in 2011, according to reports.



Two years ago, the SFA tasked then compliance officer Tony McGlennan, with launching an investigation into the application.

Rangers are understood to have had an unpaid tax liability at the time the application was submitted which, had it been disclosed, would have almost certainly voided the application with Celtic instead competing in the early qualifying rounds of the Champions League.


The Times states that Rangers claim the Five-Way Agreement, "signed in 2012 by the SFA, Scottish Premier League, Scottish Football League, the old Rangers and the new club set up by Charles Green" means that Scottish football's governing body has no jurisdiction in the matter.

Last July, the Association's judicial panel agreed, and indicated that the case would be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland, if they decided to punish the club.

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SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell told The Times: "I would expect that to come back to the board in the not too distant future.

“It [going to CAS] is still under consideration. We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it... but I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

Yep why deal with something when it can get put off and allow them to participate this year earning them more money
The length of time these things take and money spent in Courts is astounding
King has used this to his advantage to keep the Club afloat



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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2019/1419.html

The decision. Looks like a heavy loss plus legal costs for Sevco.


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[Billy Whizz]

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2019/1419.html

The decision. Looks like a heavy loss plus legal costs for Sevco.


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Looks like they only way they can get out of the Ashley deal is Admin

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/7d76c93493d6f3558e15f996c9479b3d.jpg


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[Billy Whizz]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/7d76c93493d6f3558e15f996c9479b3d.jpg


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What contracts have Rangers broken, Ozy?

[Ozyhibby]

What contracts have Rangers broken, Ozy?

I think this is in relation to not allowing SDI the chance to match any new deal.


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[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

I think this is in relation to not allowing SDI the chance to match any new deal.


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JJ has produced a full analysis of the court papers cutting through the jargon. It is a password protected piece. I suspect that it will not be investigated by any other journalist and even if it is they will not have the cojones to print it.

[Jack Hackett]

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2019/1419.html

The decision. Looks like a heavy loss plus legal costs for Sevco.


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I note with interest that EWHC have given The new Rangers their proper new name of 'The' Rangers... Refreshing! :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

I think this is in relation to not allowing SDI the chance to match any new deal.


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Not sure about that Ozy, I thought this was to do with sevco opening their own stores and selling merchandise without involving MA. I think the company managing it are Elite?

[Billy Whizz]

Not sure about that Ozy, I thought this was to do with sevco opening their own stores and selling merchandise without involving MA. I think the company managing it are Elite?

I think it was around what Ozy said, HH?
Something to do with matching rights

[CyberSauzee]

Phil Mac posted a few a couple of more things. Forgot about the memorial company suing The Rangers.


https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/06/16/amateur-hour-at-ibrox-often-ends-up-with-a-performance-in-court/

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/06/15/big-mike-and-the-ten-million-pound-man/

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190616/bd6a42e99eaaa853eafcac9d31ac08b9.jpg


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[FilipinoHibs]

Where have we heard this before? Usually company does this when in trouble and revenues do not match expenditure. Shares usually end up being nearly worthless and wiping out lenders loan. A step taken to avoid administration. Just saying like!

[HoboHarry]

Where have we heard this before? Usually company does this when in trouble and revenues do not match expenditure. Shares usually end up being nearly worthless and wiping out lenders loan. A step taken to avoid administration. Just saying like!
My understanding of all of this is limited but as I understand it the concert party now own 54% of the shares and everyone else's shares have been diluted. I still don't get what the end game is for King though - does he really think that he's going to find a buyer who is going to waste millions buying the club from him? Any prospective owner would be better buying Celtic.

[Hibernia&Alba]

If this thread going back to the top of the forum doesn't draw out CWG, nothing will :greengrin

So The Rangers have just spent £3.5 million or so on a new centre-back. Where is this coming from: is it more soft loans from the glib and shameless liar? I would imagine their season ticket money is eaten up by squad wages.

Are they up to their old tricks again, reportedly £30 million or so in debt already? The football authorities should be watching them like hawks.

[Spike Mandela]

If this thread going back to the top of the forum does draw out CWG, nothing will :greengrin

So The Rangers have just spent £3.5 million or so on a new centre-back. Where is this coming from: is it more soft loans from the glib and shameless liar? I would imagine their season ticket money is eaten up by squad wages.

Are they up to their old tricks again, reportedly £30 million or so in debt already? The football authorities should be watching them like hawks.

Who is reporting this though and has the fee been challenged? I don't believe this one bit.

[Ozyhibby]

If this thread going back to the top of the forum does draw out CWG, nothing will :greengrin

So The Rangers have just spent £3.5 million or so on a new centre-back. Where is this coming from: is it more soft loans from the glib and shameless liar? I would imagine their season ticket money is eaten up by squad wages.

Are they up to their old tricks again, reportedly £30 million or so in debt already? The football authorities should be watching them like hawks.

CWG hasn’t posted for months.
Who knows with Sevco, they defy financial gravity. The old Rangers did that as well for a while. And then they didn’t.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Who is reporting this though and has the fee been challenged? I don't believe this one bit.

SSN reporting it at around £3.5 million. Eyebrows should be raised by the high heid yins.

[Ronniekirk]

SSN reporting it at around £3.5 million. Eyebrows should be raised by the high heid yins.

They really aren’t that bothered The Plan was always to allow The Rangers to get back to being able to challenge Celtic They haven’t reached that standard yet so they will get another few seasons yet overspending imo
Even Rod won’t make a difference


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[Jack Hackett]

If this thread going back to the top of the forum doesn't draw out CWG, nothing will :greengrin

So The Rangers have just spent £3.5 million or so on a new centre-back. Where is this coming from: is it more soft loans from the glib and shameless liar? I would imagine their season ticket money is eaten up by squad wages.

Are they up to their old tricks again, reportedly £30 million or so in debt already? The football authorities should be watching them like hawks.

Season ticket money is in. It's like back in the day when people got their wage packets at the end of the week and would spend a big chunk of it on Fri/Sat night then struggle through 'til the next one

[Deansy]

They really aren’t that bothered The Plan was always to allow The Rangers to get back to being able to challenge Celtic They haven’t reached that standard yet so they will get another few seasons yet overspending imo
Even Rod won’t make a difference


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God forbid the dark day that would dawn if those s*um ever won the league but if they did I predict the first GFA statement will be -


"We're absolutely shocked - we had no idea whatsoever they'd run up that amount of debt !"


- when the Hun declares admin/bankruptcy immediately upon confirmation the title's been 'won' !

[Ozyhibby]

https://stv.tv/amp/1439382-rangers-lose-latest-court-battle-with-sports-direct/?__twitter_impression=true


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[Stonewall]

https://stv.tv/amp/1439382-rangers-lose-latest-court-battle-with-sports-direct/?__twitter_impression=true


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unsurprising.

[Stonewall]

Season ticket money is in. It's like back in the day when people got their wage packets at the end of the week and would spend a big chunk of it on Fri/Sat night then struggle through 'til the next one

They’ll also be paying in instalments and will probably try to punt him before the last payment.

[HoboHarry]

https://stv.tv/amp/1439382-rangers-lose-latest-court-battle-with-sports-direct/?__twitter_impression=true


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Splendid, when is their next loss due? :faf:

[007]

Splendid, when is their next loss due? :faf:
On Thursday when they play Progrès.

[Phil MaGlass]

God forbid the dark day that would dawn if those s*um ever won the league but if they did I predict the first GFA statement will be -


"We're absolutely shocked - we had no idea whatsoever they'd run up that amount of debt !"


- when the Hun declares admin/bankruptcy immediately upon confirmation the title's been 'won' !

I think they will invest heavily to stop sellik winning the ten in a row, then go tits up, I mean, whats the SPFL or SFA going to do about it, relegate them ?

[Jack Hackett]

I think they will invest heavily to stop sellik winning the ten in a row, then go tits up, I mean, whats the SPFL or SFA going to do about it, relegate them ?

Wouldn't mind in the least if they won it and then died again as a result. Don't think they'd get another bite at the cherry

[The Leith Dutch]

Wouldn't mind in the least if they won it and then died again as a result. Don't think they'd get another bite at the cherry

Unfortunately, much as I'd love it, they won't die again unless they're even thicker than anyone thinks possible and shaft the taxman again.
Long as you avoid that you can shaft everybody else and escape on a CVA no?

[Smartie]

Unfortunately, much as I'd love it, they won't die again unless they're even thicker than anyone thinks possible and shaft the taxman again.
Long as you avoid that you can shaft everybody else and escape on a CVA no?

I don't think it would be easy for them to rise a second time.

Administration, not liquidation would still probably lead to them losing their players, manager etc.

They survived the last time by maintaining their support via a common sense of grievance. They'd be lucky to play in front of 3 men and a dog if anything of the sort happened again.

Which I hope will.

[Keith_M]

Much as I would love if it happened, I can't see them going bust again.

[Billy Whizz]

Much as I would love if it happened, I can't see them going bust again.

I don’t think any ones suggesting this at the moment, not that I’ve read anyway
Can see them selling a few players in the next few weeks as well

[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

I don’t think any ones suggesting this at the moment, not that I’ve read anyway
Can see them selling a few players in the next few weeks as well
They have been touting Morelos and Tavernier for sometime.

[Keith_M]

I don’t think any ones suggesting this at the moment, not that I’ve read anyway
Can see them selling a few players in the next few weeks as well


There was some talk along these lines in some of the more recent comments on this thread, but I don't think they were entirely serious, just kind of wishful thinking.

[southsider]

Unfortunately, much as I'd love it, they won't die again unless they're even thicker than anyone thinks possible and shaft the taxman again.
Long as you avoid that you can shaft everybody else and escape on a CVA no?

The tax man will give you a bit of time but if you mess the VAT man he will close you down tomorrow.

[Jack Hackett]

There was some talk along these lines in some of the more recent comments on this thread, but I don't think they were entirely serious, just kind of wishful thinking.

I'm good at that :wink:

[ScottB]

They’ll keep going as long as they are paying their tax bills and there are folk with deep enough pockets willing to keep lending them money.

They didn’t just suddenly implode last time around, they were burning cash they didn’t have for a long time, and may well have carried on doing without Whyte popping up and actively not paying tax etc.

As it stands, they don’t appear to be at any imminent risk of doom. I’d assume they’ll be paying VAT quarterly, maybe even monthly, given their previous predicament, as long as they keep that up, and the director loans keep coming, they’ll carry on.

[grunt]

Just out, full court judgment in the case of Sports Direct International v The Rangers Football Club Ltd, from April of this year. The ever reliable James Doleman reporting, on Twitter

https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/1153345509836447744

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAGCSzMWwAIHJge?format=jpg&name=large

[HoboHarry]

Just out, full court judgment in the case of Sports Direct International v The Rangers Football Club Ltd, from April of this year. The ever reliable James Doleman reporting, on Twitter

https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/1153345509836447744

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAGCSzMWwAIHJge?format=jpg&name=large



Well that's sparkling news lol. What a way to cheer up a bleak Monday.... :aok: :greengrin :aok:

[The Leith Dutch]

Just out, full court judgment in the case of Sports Direct International v The Rangers Football Club Ltd, from April of this year. The ever reliable James Doleman reporting, on Twitter

https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/1153345509836447744

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAGCSzMWwAIHJge?format=jpg&name=large




That's going to sting in the morning :D

[grunt]

Well that's sparkling news lol. What a way to cheer up a bleak Monday.... :aok: :greengrin :aok:I'm no legal expert, but my reading of paragraph 93 in that picture leads me to think that Elite may have a case for damages against Rangers. I haven't seen any discussion of this yet.

[Billy Whizz]

I'm no legal expert, but my reading of paragraph 93 in that picture leads me to think that Elite may have a case for damages against Rangers. I haven't seen any discussion of this yet.

Remind me what Elites all about?

[HoboHarry]

I'm no legal expert, but my reading of paragraph 93 in that picture leads me to think that Elite may have a case for damages against Rangers. I haven't seen any discussion of this yet.
Can't imagine that Hummel are too chuffed either..... **** them, It's a glorious thing to see them get pummeled so I hope both of them sue.....

[grunt]

Remind me what Elites all about?It's a bit complicated. Story here: https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/sports/basketball/item/football-kit-supplier-deals-lessons-for-clubs-on-matching-rights-from-the-sports-direct-v-rangers-fc-case?category_id=159 (Also please see article Copyright notice at foot of the page. I don't want to upset any lawyers!)

[Billy Whizz]

It's a bit complicated. Story here: https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/sports/basketball/item/football-kit-supplier-deals-lessons-for-clubs-on-matching-rights-from-the-sports-direct-v-rangers-fc-case?category_id=159 (Also please see article Copyright notice at foot of the page. I don't want to upset any lawyers!)
Thanks, bedtime reading by the looks of it

[grunt]

Gloating from Phil https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/07/22/big-mike-and-that-vindication-feeling/

Please note my comments re Elite are very much a side issue, if they are indeed an issue at all.
The main news from today's judgement is that Sports Direct lost "many millions of pounds" and that the court did not limit the amount that Rangers are due them.

[Tomsk]

Should one dare to hope. :pray:

[MrSmith]

Just saw this on twitter:

https://twitter.com/Heavidor/status/1153361710377504769

22309

[04Sauzee]

They are spewing on follow follow.

You can read if you want, if you don't want to I wouldn't blame you
https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/sd-v-rfc-judgement.82606/page-2

[HoboHarry]

Should one dare to hope. :pray:
I am. Feverishly.

[weecounty hibby]

I really hope this is a great big boot to the baws that the ****my *******s deserve. 🙏

[Billy Whizz]

I really hope this is a great big boot to the baws that the ****my *******s deserve. 🙏

Surely the Judge will agree on a payment plan for them, surely they’ll not have to pay it in 28 days!

[Joe6-2]

Surely the Judge will agree on a payment plan for them, surely they’ll not have to pay it in 28 days!

We can always hope!!

[Eyrie]

Just saw this on twitter:

https://twitter.com/Heavidor/status/1153361710377504769

22309

Put a smile on my face as I can't see any negatives in that.

[bringbackbenny]

They are spewing on follow follow.

You can read if you want, if you don't want to I wouldn't blame you
https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/sd-v-rfc-judgement.82606/page-2

Tears to a glass eye 🤣

[Captain Trips]

I just love it when this thread pops up to the top again and with this latest stuff it is all rather amusing. Get in there Ashley

[jeffers]

Not sure if I fully grasp this, suggestion is they are tied to Sports Direct forever. Surely that's not the case ?

[CB_NO3]

Not sure if I fully grasp this, suggestion is they are tied to Sports Direct forever. Surely that's not the case ?

Doubt that. Sure they will need to see the 7 year deal out, so any profits from official merchandise will belong to Mash. Last seasons merchandise profits will also belong to Mash.

[HoboHarry]

Hope Bologna got their money up front for the big Swedish defender lol.....

[Bostonhibby]

Any chance of solving this one with a wee five way agreement, then quickly "moving on"?

Thought not[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[HoboHarry]

Doubt that. Sure they will need to see the 7 year deal out, so any profits from official merchandise will belong to Mash. Last seasons merchandise profits will also belong to Mash.
My understanding is (and this is confusing and I could be completely wrong) is that the 7 year agreement was bought out by Sevco at a cost of 3 million which (oddly enough) wasn't reported by the press at the time. Where they royally screwed up is that the contract that they then agreed to with Ashley was even worse and allowed Ashley matching rights pretty much in perpetuity. I'll happily stand corrected if I'm wrong....

[Glory Lurker]

If anyone's struggling to make sense of it, don't worry It'll all be forensically analysed across tomorrow's msm.

[jeffers]

My understanding is (and this is confusing and I could be completely wrong) is that the 7 year agreement was bought out by Sevco at a cost of 3 million which (oddly enough) wasn't reported by the press at the time. Where they royally screwed up is that the contract that they then agreed to with Ashley was even worse and allowed Ashley matching rights pretty much in perpetuity. I'll happily stand corrected if I'm wrong....

Oh please let that be true.

[mca]

That Rings a bell.. i seem to remember something about a settlement before that ashley deal and i think it was reported in the papers down here about the same time as the ashley deal....


cause it's not often they actually print anything about scottish fitba.. rag top papers..

[ancient hibee]

My understanding is (and this is confusing and I could be completely wrong) is that the 7 year agreement was bought out by Sevco at a cost of 3 million which (oddly enough) wasn't reported by the press at the time. Where they royally screwed up is that the contract that they then agreed to with Ashley was even worse and allowed Ashley matching rights pretty much in perpetuity. I'll happily stand corrected if I'm wrong....


Think you’re right.The case is all about Rangers thinking that the words of the contract don’t mean what they say.They have yet again,even more forcibly,been told that they do.It seems to me that all Rangers have done by forcing the issue is landed themselves not just with the contract and legal costs but with damages which could tip them over again if they’re pursued.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Think you’re right.The case is all about Rangers thinking that the words of the contract don’t mean what they say.They have yet again,even more forcibly,been told that they do.It seems to me that all Rangers have done by forcing the issue is landed themselves not just with the contract and legal costs but with damages which could tip them over again if they’re pursued.

:lolrangers:

[Deansy]

I've googled and there's not one solitary media-outlet got anything to say on this news - of course that's no big surprise but I really wish CWG would make a comeback to clarify things ??


One pice of info I did find on them is absolutely hilarious -

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-launch-campaign-to-promote-diversity-and-inclusion-1-4969334

'"We have a rich history of success and achievement but we should also be regarded as a modern and fair football club which opposes all forms of anti-social and discriminatory behaviour, including bigotry, racism, sectarianism, homophobia and sexism'



The Hun - well known for their tolerant and welcoming culture ............................... unbelieveable - I bet there was the traditional total absence of a red-face on their spokesman !

[HoboHarry]

I've googled and there's not one solitary media-outlet got anything to say on this news - of course that's no big surprise but I really wish CWG would make a comeback to clarify things ??


One pice of info I did find on them is absolutely hilarious -

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-launch-campaign-to-promote-diversity-and-inclusion-1-4969334

'"We have a rich history of success and achievement but we should also be regarded as a modern and fair football club which opposes all forms of anti-social and discriminatory behaviour, including bigotry, racism, sectarianism, homophobia and sexism'



The Hun - well known for their tolerant and welcoming culture ............................... unbelieveable - I bet there was the traditional total absence of a red-face on their spokesman !
Oh I think there is a fair chance the the spokesman's face was very red but that would have been the alcohol as opposed to embarrassment.....:greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

My understanding is (and this is confusing and I could be completely wrong) is that the 7 year agreement was bought out by Sevco at a cost of 3 million which (oddly enough) wasn't reported by the press at the time. Where they royally screwed up is that the contract that they then agreed to with Ashley was even worse and allowed Ashley matching rights pretty much in perpetuity. I'll happily stand corrected if I'm wrong....

Nailed it.[emoji23][emoji6]


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[CraigHibee]

😂 This is brilliant, ashley has the knuckle draggers over a barrel, liquidation part 2 on the horizon? Can imagine that Ashley will receive a sizable figure from sevco for what has happened 😁

[Iain G]

Loving the Daily Ranger's take on this: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-court-blow-mike-ashleys-18667096

Tell the story of poor old hard done by Rangers then devote half the article to how bad a nasty man Mike Ashley is, but don't mention anything about the convicted fraudster Dave King or any of the Rangers dubious contractual dealings...

[The Leith Dutch]

They are spewing on follow follow.

You can read if you want, if you don't want to I wouldn't blame you
https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/sd-v-rfc-judgement.82606/page-2

That's actually unusually balanced for them.
I expected most of the posts to be threats of violence to Ashley.

The bit I'm really struggling with is the line "Rangers are appealing"......

[CraigHibee]

Loving the Daily Ranger's take on this: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-court-blow-mike-ashleys-18667096

Tell the story of poor old hard done by Rangers then devote half the article to how bad a nasty man Mike Ashley is, but don't mention anything about the convicted fraudster Dave King or any of the Rangers dubious contractual dealings...

Blame shifting as per usual, normally done by **** bags.. It is der hun afterall 😁

[CraigHibee]

That's actually unusually balanced for them.
I expected most of the posts to be threats of violence to Ashley.

The bit I'm really struggling with is the line "Rangers are appealing"......

Not sure about appealing but they are most certainly revolting 😁

[HoboHarry]

😂 This is brilliant, ashley has the knuckle draggers over a barrel, liquidation part 2 on the horizon? Can imagine that Ashley will receive a sizable figure from sevco for what has happened 😁
Possibly, but there would be a good chance that Sevco would go breasts skywards if he demanded immediate payment of whatever damages are awarded. I'm thinking that Ashley will come to an agreement with Sevco with terms even more onerous than they are currently....

[JeMeSouviens]

That's actually unusually balanced for them.
I expected most of the posts to be threats of violence to Ashley.

The bit I'm really struggling with is the line "Rangers are appealing"......

I think we can all agree their fans are revolting. :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

Not sure about appealing but they are most certainly revolting 😁

Damn, didn't read far enough, beaten to the punchline again, sigh. :rolleyes:

[Crazyhorse]

Possibly, but there would be a good chance that Sevco would go breasts skywards if he demanded immediate payment of whatever damages are awarded. I'm thinking that Ashley will come to an agreement with Sevco with terms even more onerous than they are currently....

I do hope so. Much as I despise Ashley it is amusing to see him treat the zombies as his no 1 gimp.

[J-C]

Douglas Parks business has been in effective administration & has been run by the bank for the last 18 months. The bank have now instructed that Park sell the car sales part of his business immediately, all of this because he believed King, and King has rode him bareback. His loans to Sevco have been converted into worthless shares and he possibly has lost anything up to €12.5m propping up Kings ego/mouth. And King had the balls to ask him to put in another €2m last week so that they could pay the 1st instalment of the Swedish guy & their legal teams bills. Who by the way are working strictly on a cash basis only. Celtic are planning around them going bang again. Top it off, Dorrans, Murphy have been told to leave & if they don't think they will be training with the youths. Barasic has been told that he has no future and should be looking for a new club. The problem is that no one in Croatia will be or are paying anyone over €20k per week to any player there. They've left 5 people behind the scenes go just so they can make payroll for the players. Hummel have withheld the €1.4m start of the season bonus coz of the Commercial deal fiasco. Jimmy Bell has been busy buying kit without badges from the Hummel UK guy and then getting the badges etc put on. They're ****ed

Just had this sent to me from a mate, interesting stuff.

[blaikie]

Douglas Parks business has been in effective administration & has been run by the bank for the last 18 months. The bank have now instructed that Park sell the car sales part of his business immediately, all of this because he believed King, and King has rode him bareback. His loans to Sevco have been converted into worthless shares and he possibly has lost anything up to €12.5m propping up Kings ego/mouth. And King had the balls to ask him to put in another €2m last week so that they could pay the 1st instalment of the Swedish guy & their legal teams bills. Who by the way are working strictly on a cash basis only. Celtic are planning around them going bang again. Top it off, Dorrans, Murphy have been told to leave & if they don't think they will be training with the youths. Barasic has been told that he has no future and should be looking for a new club. The problem is that no one in Croatia will be or are paying anyone over €20k per week to any player there. They've left 5 people behind the scenes go just so they can make payroll for the players. Hummel have withheld the €1.4m start of the season bonus coz of the Commercial deal fiasco. Jimmy Bell has been busy buying kit without badges from the Hummel UK guy and then getting the badges etc put on. They're ****ed

Just had this sent to me from a mate, interesting stuff.

Got sent this earlier from a Celtic supporting mate ..... it’s believable up to the Jimmy Bell part 🤣

[Billy Whizz]

Got sent this earlier from a Celtic supporting mate ..... it’s believable up to the Jimmy Bell part 🤣

Heard they were selling strips outside a pub😄

[HoboHarry]

Heard they were selling strips outside a pub😄
They were - pop up shop outside the Louden Tavern....

[JeMeSouviens]

Douglas Parks business has been in effective administration & has been run by the bank for the last 18 months. The bank have now instructed that Park sell the car sales part of his business immediately, all of this because he believed King, and King has rode him bareback. His loans to Sevco have been converted into worthless shares and he possibly has lost anything up to €12.5m propping up Kings ego/mouth. And King had the balls to ask him to put in another €2m last week so that they could pay the 1st instalment of the Swedish guy & their legal teams bills. Who by the way are working strictly on a cash basis only. Celtic are planning around them going bang again. Top it off, Dorrans, Murphy have been told to leave & if they don't think they will be training with the youths. Barasic has been told that he has no future and should be looking for a new club. The problem is that no one in Croatia will be or are paying anyone over €20k per week to any player there. They've left 5 people behind the scenes go just so they can make payroll for the players. Hummel have withheld the €1.4m start of the season bonus coz of the Commercial deal fiasco. Jimmy Bell has been busy buying kit without badges from the Hummel UK guy and then getting the badges etc put on. They're ****ed

Just had this sent to me from a mate, interesting stuff.

This is the last set of accounts from Park's business. Seems to be profitable, but I don't really know what to look for. Paging CWG ... come back!

https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-live.ch.gov.uk/docs/wGwW8igusc3GkvbFOqVP8W70Xrm6k1fD8O5e5Yi0pac/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3CXOHMIVN%2F20190723%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20190723T135512Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=AgoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEGwaCWV1LXdlc3QtMiJIMEYCIQDv Ksk7JTtOUDwszKKnvRNYbXYYaX%2BYUJb2n02QrdlZXAIhALrd 7gKmvxXUIcMDIL6xgyx2Hy6mm1yEYvwDR5OQqiz%2FKuMDCNT% 2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEQARoMNDQ5MjI5MDMyOD IyIgzVgnVvVo7w90np5rgqtwO5GYZD7rQD%2BsF%2BG6QT9neM wr7Pu0mpnfCjDa8jIxWj%2FYqQbgL7ZmrptACzDlj2MOAaO0WD Ajo%2F3%2Br2il%2Fv%2FfkDFyJ4UttyjkWGr5cedxnXKO6D6c h4Q%2F63n0vxQIAK5NshIwBlOgChymcCINRMkKhR94UPClTozA 5%2BXFTynGawN2HryCZHkecjkWaEift2lYz6rIzXozwpTVkMiy e6S7A%2FZ22YppwCyiDEmGL3jAWfZkekwr37FBgfcWfmoLM9Ux aFeAj7oWoOIUPYXctQYsvqsmrdsHuyEJA08PS%2Bt%2FjYLQub FLk2gKBJjguhbXPdtAg%2FuoUbbOuzcTIARtR3kta%2F1358kF laDCDKhKOeeO4hevrr19QY68XjLxbxOBUb8dh90MbOeDaDp6U% 2FTJ82hWvKIhcZHwEEEssZIliQloIGbgae0q9n5kvUcsa%2FHh %2F9UNofMLOItqdnkfAUhYf2%2FAR%2FpaoQNOOYvaCFwQH7QA z8gnBNTZyz%2Bk%2FeG%2BcaMcvX15ZO0dSjLSlCutO0KerZKg dONz%2FpMDAr9nSXhAnY8TYzInSudBrEp85UlOjd6lJTf5EnFp eCNuS7MMPb2%2BkFOrMBsHbP0xqj%2FI1Z%2F0%2BVg7YZW5HF AkgDXdLNsoonPXDt4O9ed1rMMCsbsce7UILAD3EbHINxk4grzx 4x66wXynaXQcBjsItTKpTaCrk1M%2FxU6e6hZXAinMrNEb%2B6 0bo2Ug41YvDfqVtwnAARh6mnDnOTya1J5q881DJ6FiWiOp5YGi fkDZmXEyz2hg%2Fe3hcvihTdDx3lbWtZ%2FMSqD3VQaQ9Ix6Ey xNl%2BDcb88MuiEv7Cqei3fB4%3D&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=2fa68d66fd41d734b64b4aa15e30150d801fc3e4 996354b87f272c695d125474

[HoboHarry]

This is the last set of accounts from Park's business. Seems to be profitable, but I don't really know what to look for. Paging CWG ... come back!

https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-live.ch.gov.uk/docs/wGwW8igusc3GkvbFOqVP8W70Xrm6k1fD8O5e5Yi0pac/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3CXOHMIVN%2F20190723%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20190723T135512Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=AgoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEGwaCWV1LXdlc3QtMiJIMEYCIQDv Ksk7JTtOUDwszKKnvRNYbXYYaX%2BYUJb2n02QrdlZXAIhALrd 7gKmvxXUIcMDIL6xgyx2Hy6mm1yEYvwDR5OQqiz%2FKuMDCNT% 2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEQARoMNDQ5MjI5MDMyOD IyIgzVgnVvVo7w90np5rgqtwO5GYZD7rQD%2BsF%2BG6QT9neM wr7Pu0mpnfCjDa8jIxWj%2FYqQbgL7ZmrptACzDlj2MOAaO0WD Ajo%2F3%2Br2il%2Fv%2FfkDFyJ4UttyjkWGr5cedxnXKO6D6c h4Q%2F63n0vxQIAK5NshIwBlOgChymcCINRMkKhR94UPClTozA 5%2BXFTynGawN2HryCZHkecjkWaEift2lYz6rIzXozwpTVkMiy e6S7A%2FZ22YppwCyiDEmGL3jAWfZkekwr37FBgfcWfmoLM9Ux aFeAj7oWoOIUPYXctQYsvqsmrdsHuyEJA08PS%2Bt%2FjYLQub FLk2gKBJjguhbXPdtAg%2FuoUbbOuzcTIARtR3kta%2F1358kF laDCDKhKOeeO4hevrr19QY68XjLxbxOBUb8dh90MbOeDaDp6U% 2FTJ82hWvKIhcZHwEEEssZIliQloIGbgae0q9n5kvUcsa%2FHh %2F9UNofMLOItqdnkfAUhYf2%2FAR%2FpaoQNOOYvaCFwQH7QA z8gnBNTZyz%2Bk%2FeG%2BcaMcvX15ZO0dSjLSlCutO0KerZKg dONz%2FpMDAr9nSXhAnY8TYzInSudBrEp85UlOjd6lJTf5EnFp eCNuS7MMPb2%2BkFOrMBsHbP0xqj%2FI1Z%2F0%2BVg7YZW5HF AkgDXdLNsoonPXDt4O9ed1rMMCsbsce7UILAD3EbHINxk4grzx 4x66wXynaXQcBjsItTKpTaCrk1M%2FxU6e6hZXAinMrNEb%2B6 0bo2Ug41YvDfqVtwnAARh6mnDnOTya1J5q881DJ6FiWiOp5YGi fkDZmXEyz2hg%2Fe3hcvihTdDx3lbWtZ%2FMSqD3VQaQ9Ix6Ey xNl%2BDcb88MuiEv7Cqei3fB4%3D&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=2fa68d66fd41d734b64b4aa15e30150d801fc3e4 996354b87f272c695d125474
CWG, Caversham Green come on down......

[BigKev]

Douglas Parks business has been in effective administration & has been run by the bank for the last 18 months. The bank have now instructed that Park sell the car sales part of his business immediately, all of this because he believed King, and King has rode him bareback. His loans to Sevco have been converted into worthless shares and he possibly has lost anything up to €12.5m propping up Kings ego/mouth. And King had the balls to ask him to put in another €2m last week so that they could pay the 1st instalment of the Swedish guy & their legal teams bills. Who by the way are working strictly on a cash basis only. Celtic are planning around them going bang again. Top it off, Dorrans, Murphy have been told to leave & if they don't think they will be training with the youths. Barasic has been told that he has no future and should be looking for a new club. The problem is that no one in Croatia will be or are paying anyone over €20k per week to any player there. They've left 5 people behind the scenes go just so they can make payroll for the players. Hummel have withheld the €1.4m start of the season bonus coz of the Commercial deal fiasco. Jimmy Bell has been busy buying kit without badges from the Hummel UK guy and then getting the badges etc put on. They're ****ed

Just had this sent to me from a mate, interesting stuff.

Pre tax profits of £21.8m in 2017. Can't see anything for 2018 but I'm guessing similar results.

I think that's a fake text been doing the rounds so unless everyone has the same Celtic supporting mate then it's dubious to say the least.

It appeared on the thread across the road last night as well.

[Smartie]

Pre tax profits of £21.8m in 2017. Can't see anything for 2018 but I'm guessing similar results.

I think that's a fake text been doing the rounds so unless everyone has the same Celtic supporting mate then it's dubious to say the least.

It appeared on the thread across the road last night as well.

Remember the old saying though - turnover for vanity, profit for sanity, CASH IS KING.

It is possible to have a perfectly profitable business struggle due to cash flow issues. I should know, I have one.

My business would disappear very quickly if I took large chunks of cash out of it to throw at an ailing football club.

[BigKev]

Remember the old saying though - turnover for vanity, profit for sanity, CASH IS KING.

It is possible to have a perfectly profitable business struggle due to cash flow issues. I should know, I have one.

My business would disappear very quickly if I took large chunks of cash out of it to throw at an ailing football club.

Turnover was £777m 😂 Profit margins not great!

There was also an £8.9m dividend payment to directors.

Park gives his main residence as Switzerland.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Turnover was £777m 😂 Profit margins not great!

There was also an £8.9m dividend payment to directors.

Park gives his main residence as Switzerland.

But surely such a staunch Rangers man is proudly British and would never want to shortchange the UK treasury?

[ancient hibee]

But surely such a staunch Rangers man is proudly British and would never want to shortchange the UK treasury?

He’s not .He’s doing what everyone should try to do which is keep your money legally away from the tax man.Never understood the idea that Civil Servants are the best people to spend any spare money I have :greengrin:greengrin

[Rumble de Thump]

Sevco fans' hatred of Mike AShley is bizarre considering his emergency £10 million loan saved the club from going bust. They didn't even have enough money to pay employee wages and the club was destined to go the same way as Rangers.

[HoboHarry]

Sevco fans' hatred of Mike AShley is bizarre considering his emergency £10 million loan saved the club from going bust. They didn't even have enough money to pay employee wages and the club was destined to go the same way as Rangers.
If you read some of their blogs there are a considerable number of them who still don't know/realise that the new agreement which has them in this mess was negotiated by King and his acolytes. They still think this was down to Charles Green.....

[Keith_M]

He’s not .He’s doing what everyone should try to do which is keep your money legally away from the tax man.Never understood the idea that Civil Servants are the best people to spend any spare money I have :greengrin:greengrin



You sound like Donald Trump's spokesperson on why he hasn't paid taxes for years.

"It is every American's patriotic duty to pay no more taxes than absolutely necessary"


Or maybe you're Leona Helmsley in disguise...

"We don't pay taxes; only the little people pay taxes"

[Deansy]

Loving the Daily Ranger's take on this: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-court-blow-mike-ashleys-18667096

Tell the story of poor old hard done by Rangers then devote half the article to how bad a nasty man Mike Ashley is, but don't mention anything about the convicted fraudster Dave King or any of the Rangers dubious contractual dealings...


'Rangers could be forced to pay Sports Direct (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/one-quid-year-plus-vat-9314518) (SDIR) millions of pounds ......'


They could be - could ??? The Hun will be forced to pay !

[Joe6-2]

CWG, Caversham Green come on down......

Where are these guys?!!

[HoboHarry]

'Rangers could be forced to pay Sports Direct (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/one-quid-year-plus-vat-9314518) (SDIR) millions of pounds ......'


They could be - could ??? The Hun will be forced to pay !
Well maybe - it's not in Ashley's interest to force them into bankruptcy if he can bleed money out of them for years to come instead. It could be that they will come to an out of court settlement, but the terms of the deal are likely to be pretty onerous for Sevco.....

[ancient hibee]

You sound like Donald Trump's spokesperson on why he hasn't paid taxes for years.

"It is every American's patriotic duty to pay no more taxes than absolutely necessary"


Or maybe you're Leona Helmsley in disguise...

"We don't pay taxes; only the little people pay taxes"

I’m neither.Just someone who has no objection to people doing what the law allows them to do.Doesn’t mean that I think the laws are fair or just.Perhaps you should get in touch with Ron Gordon and tell him you don’t approve of the majority shareholder in Hibs being situated in Delaware in order to take advantage of the company tax rules there.

[Hibernia&Alba]

He’s not .He’s doing what everyone should try to do which is keep your money legally away from the tax man.Never understood the idea that Civil Servants are the best people to spend any spare money I have :greengrin:greengrin

I couldn't disagree with you more. If we want the best possible public services (which I do) they have to be funded accordingly. Tax exiles are a disgrace in my eyes.

[southsider]

You sound like Donald Trump's spokesperson on why he hasn't paid taxes for years.

"It is every American's patriotic duty to pay no more taxes than absolutely necessary"


Or maybe you're Leona Helmsley in disguise...

"We don't pay taxes; only the little people pay taxes"
Taz evasion is a crime whilst tax avoidance by fancy dan accountants is not but should be punishable by death. See SEVCO.

[Captain Trips]

Taz evasion is a crime whilst tax avoidance by fancy dan accountants is not but should be punishable by death. See SEVCO.

Taz Evasion sounds like a decent player.

[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

'Rangers could be forced to pay Sports Direct (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/one-quid-year-plus-vat-9314518) (SDIR) millions of pounds ......'


They could be - could ??? The Hun will be forced to pay !
Wonder if there is a link between Tavernier going to Newcastle for £8 million (titter ye not ). Can’t believe that they think Ashley is as stupid as they are.

[Eyrie]

Taz evasion is a crime whilst tax avoidance by fancy dan accountants is not but should be punishable by death. See SEVCO.

You do realise that you're avoiding tax by putting money into an ISA or a pension?

Although I agree that the fancy lawyers and accountants looking to create and exploit an unintentional loophole in the wording should be dealt with permanently.

[Captain Trips]

You do realise that you're avoiding tax by putting money into an ISA or a pension?

Although I agree that the fancy lawyers and accountants looking to create and exploit an unintentional loophole in the wording should be dealt with permanently.

Well not if the money you put in it is from your wages that was taxed in first place.

[lapsedhibee]

Well not if the money you put in it is from your wages that was taxed in first place.
When you buy something in a shop, do you decline to pay the 20% VAT which is included in the price, on the grounds that you're paying out of your wages, which were already taxed?

[jacomo]

When you buy something in a shop, do you decline to pay the 20% VAT which is included in the price, on the grounds that you're paying out of your wages, which were already taxed?


There is a huge difference between ISAs and pensions, which are designed and encouraged by the government to encourage people to save, and tax avoidance which requires the services of accountants to deliberately exploit loopholes in the law using complex financial transactions.

It is a bit silly to equate the two, but unscrupulous wealthy people are very happy that you do!

[Crazyhorse]

Taz Evasion sounds like a decent player.

Very elusive no one can get near him on the pitch.

[Ozyhibby]

Wonder if there is a link between Tavernier going to Newcastle for £8 million (titter ye not ). Can’t believe that they think Ashley is as stupid as they are.

I think there is zero chance of Ashley giving Dave King £8m.


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[Ozyhibby]

You do realise that you're avoiding tax by putting money into an ISA or a pension?

Although I agree that the fancy lawyers and accountants looking to create and exploit an unintentional loophole in the wording should be dealt with permanently.

By closing the loophole? Not the fault of the accountants, it’s bad tax policy that’s to blame.


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[Ozyhibby]

Well not if the money you put in it is from your wages that was taxed in first place.

You pay into your pension from pre tax earnings. It is done to encourage you to save for your old age so you will not be a drain on the state.


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[Captain Trips]

You pay into your pension from pre tax earnings. It is done to encourage you to save for your old age so you will not be a drain on the state.


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I was discussing ISA not pensions which like you are aware is something totally different.

[Onceinawhile]

You pay into your pension from pre tax earnings. It is done to encourage you to save for your old age so you will not be a drain on the state.


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Not always, quite common to make post tax pension contributions and receive tax relief on them.

[Topographic Hibby]

...and in related matters

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49124375

'Shambles' as Sports Direct's results delayed

[Springbank]

I know Mr MacGiollaBhain has a very annoying writing style, and is frequently full of bluster, but some of this looks a reasonable read

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/07/24/soothing-statements-and-hard-facts/

speculation that sevco are in line for an 8 figure sum to pay as penalty to Sports Direct, and it won't begin with a 1

£20m-£30m is the guess going on here

Close Brothers may be nervous and might be the canary in the mine here... as long as they sit tight, it's probably not end game. But if they do get twitchy...

[Iain G]

I know Mr MacGiollaBhain has a very annoying writing style, and is frequently full of bluster, but some of this looks a reasonable read

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/07/24/soothing-statements-and-hard-facts/

speculation that sevco are in line for an 8 figure sum to pay as penalty to Sports Direct, and it won't begin with a 1

£20m-£30m is the guess going on here

Close Brothers may be nervous and might be the canary in the mine here... as long as they sit tight, it's probably not end game. But if they do get twitchy...

The only readable and understandable bits of his site are where he quotes someone else!

[Springbank]

The only readable and understandable bits of his site are where he quotes someone else!

100% agree - and especially in that article.

The analysis from the rangers supporter he quoted was both brutal & spot on (to my eyes)

[Prof. Shaggy]

I know Mr MacGiollaBhain has a very annoying writing style, and is frequently full of bluster, but some of this looks a reasonable read

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/07/24/soothing-statements-and-hard-facts/

speculation that sevco are in line for an 8 figure sum to pay as penalty to Sports Direct, and it won't begin with a 1

£20m-£30m is the guess going on here

Close Brothers may be nervous and might be the canary in the mine here... as long as they sit tight, it's probably not end game. But if they do get twitchy...

Phil MacG predicts hugely debilitating event for The Rangers!

There's a surprise.

I suppose if he does it often enough it might make it come true.:rolleyes:

[bigswissstriker]

Well not if the money you put in it is from your wages that was taxed in first place.

You get tax relief on pension contributions

[HoboHarry]

Phil MacG predicts hugely debilitating event for The Rangers!

There's a surprise.

I suppose if he does it often enough it might make it come true.:rolleyes:
It did the first time around while he was being dismissed as a fantasist.

[Prof. Shaggy]

It did the first time around while he was being dismissed as a fantasist.

If you mean 2012 there were plenty on here predicting the same thing.
And they were mostly fantasists.
:greengrin:greengrin

[HoboHarry]

If you mean 2012 there were plenty on here predicting the same thing.
And they were mostly fantasists.
:greengrin:greengrin
No apologies from me for fantasizing about that shower of cants going under again, can't come soon enough. I enjoy reading Phil's stuff, it's a refreshing change from the mainstream press and I would like to think that I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions about what is happening based on reading multiple sources.

[Ozyhibby]

Phil may not be everyone cup of tea but back in 2011 him and rangerstaxcase.com were the only one’s with this story. It was completely ignored by the MSM even though all the facts were out there if they wanted to look for them.
He was widely mocked then as well. Who remembers Chic Young on radio Scotland telling everyone there was no chance Rangers were going bust and not to listen to internet bampots?
Or Craig Whyte being introduced as a billionaire by the daily Record?
It’s easy to mock him but he still broke the biggest story in Scottish football in the last 50 years, maybe more.


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[HoboHarry]

Phil may not be everyone cup of tea but back in 2011 him and rangerstaxcase.com were the only one’s with this story. It was completely ignored by the MSM even though all the facts were out there if they wanted to look for them.
He was widely mocked then as well. Who remembers Chic Young on radio Scotland telling everyone there was no chance Rangers were going bust and not to listen to internet bampots?
Or Craig Whyte being introduced as a billionaire by the daily Record?
It’s easy to mock him but he still broke the biggest story in Scottish football in the last 50 years, maybe more.


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:agree: The mainstream press still aren't covering it, I've yet to see coverage of the court loss this week on the BBC.......

[Rocky]

...and in related matters

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49124375

'Shambles' as Sports Direct's results delayed

Being reported that the delay is due to a 600 million euro tax bill from Belgium surfacing yesterday! If that killed them and took the huns down with them that would be a sweet sweet moment.

[Smartie]

Being reported that the delay is due to a 600 million euro tax bill from Belgium surfacing yesterday! If that killed them and took the huns down with them that would be a sweet sweet moment.

Whilst that would be nice, do we not need a strong Sports Direct here? One with pots of cash to spend on lawyers and one less likely to accept a lowball settlement from anyone, as they are an institution desperate to get their hands on any cash possible asap (the position Sevco frequently find themselves in?)

[Rocky]

Whilst that would be nice, do we not need a strong Sports Direct here? One with pots of cash to spend on lawyers and one less likely to accept a lowball settlement from anyone, as they are an institution desperate to get their hands on any cash possible asap (the position Sevco frequently find themselves in?)
Possibly, but I'm thinking maybe SD liquidation would mean that liquidators would need to realise any assets asap, including whatever Sevco owe them? If SD are strong then they'd want to take their pound of flesh gradually from huns to avoid killing the golden goose (also a good outcome) whereas if they're distressed they may actually sink them?

[jgl07]

Possibly, but I'm thinking maybe SD liquidation would mean that liquidators would need to realise any assets asap, including whatever Sevco owe them? If SD are strong then they'd want to take their pound of flesh gradually from huns to avoid killing the golden goose (also a good outcome) whereas if they're distressed they may actually sink them?
Not if you apply Yamonomics. In that case if the company you own millions to goes bust, you get away with. Apparently!

[Billy Whizz]

Possibly, but I'm thinking maybe SD liquidation would mean that liquidators would need to realise any assets asap, including whatever Sevco owe them? If SD are strong then they'd want to take their pound of flesh gradually from huns to avoid killing the golden goose (also a good outcome) whereas if they're distressed they may actually sink them?

Sports Direct SFO resigned tonight?

[Smartie]

Possibly, but I'm thinking maybe SD liquidation would mean that liquidators would need to realise any assets asap, including whatever Sevco owe them? If SD are strong then they'd want to take their pound of flesh gradually from huns to avoid killing the golden goose (also a good outcome) whereas if they're distressed they may actually sink them?

Is it better for us to have Sevco dead asap or being bled dry for years by Sports Direct?

10 in a row, no serious spending to match Celtic and they might die of natural causes along the way.

[Kato]

Is it better for us to have Sevco dead asap or being bled dry for years by Sports Direct?

10 in a row, no serious spending to match Celtic and they might die of natural causes along the way.

Exactly what I was thinking. Hamstrung seasons whilst giving them a few more four zips.

[Rocky]

Is it better for us to have Sevco dead asap or being bled dry for years by Sports Direct?

10 in a row, no serious spending to match Celtic and they might die of natural causes along the way.

Neither of those is a terrible option to be fair! On balance I think they're better dead asap - the existence of any kind of hun, weakened or otherwise, strengthens Celtic too. If their bigot brothers die it'll take some of the Celtic raison d'etre away too and their support will start to lose interest.

[brog]

Phil may not be everyone cup of tea but back in 2011 him and rangerstaxcase.com were the only one’s with this story. It was completely ignored by the MSM even though all the facts were out there if they wanted to look for them.
He was widely mocked then as well. Who remembers Chic Young on radio Scotland telling everyone there was no chance Rangers were going bust and not to listen to internet bampots?
Or Craig Whyte being introduced as a billionaire by the daily Record?
It’s easy to mock him but he still broke the biggest story in Scottish football in the last 50 years, maybe more.


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I agree Ozy though I think Phil Mac plagiarised a lot from rangerstaxcase & one other IIRC. Anyway, wee Craig wasn't just a billionaire, he had off the radar wealth per Keith Jackson. Only in Scotland could a reporter get promoted after such a c!!k up!

[Hibs4185]

Sports Direct in a wee bit of financial trouble today. No chance Big Mike will be taking a penny less than he is due which could be in the 8 figures.

The only way out of that agreement must be an admin event!

[Alan62]

You do realise that you're avoiding tax by putting money into an ISA or a pension?

Although I agree that the fancy lawyers and accountants looking to create and exploit an unintentional loophole in the wording should be dealt with permanently.

Pensions are taxable. You get tax relief when you put money into a pension (as an incentive to save) but pension income is taxed like any other income.

ISAs are funded with money that has already been taxed. You just don't pay any tax on the gain.

So, pensions and ISAs aren't tax avoidance at all.

[Juniper Greens]

That Phil guy is far to regularly quoted on this site. He's an embarrassment and obviously keen to predict death of rangers and now sevco

[Ozyhibby]

That Phil guy is far to regularly quoted on this site. He's an embarrassment and obviously keen to predict death of rangers and now sevco

To be fair I don’t think he ever claims to be an impartial observer.


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[Jack]

That Phil guy is far to regularly quoted on this site. He's an embarrassment and obviously keen to predict death of rangers and now sevco

Although to be fair if it wasn't for him nobody would have been aware they went bust the last time.

It's the MSM that should be embarrassed.

[Springbank]

That Phil guy is far to regularly quoted on this site. He's an embarrassment and obviously keen to predict death of rangers and now sevco

I quoted his piece yesterday - to highlight what a rangers shareholder said in Phil's piece.

I'd say yesterday's quote was a useful one (and one the MSM aren't using) as it said 'what King did with Sports Direct 2 years ago was potentially sensible but only if you are not planning to then slag SD off to your/their customers' and the rangers person then gave some decent rationale.

You don't need to read it. But if you did want to read it then - as others have said - you actually have to read it on his site as the MSM are in a bigger vacuum than Dyson.

[Ozyhibby]

Straight from the David Murray playbook. Sevconians all excited again and forgetting all about the large amounts of money due.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-talks-over-ibrox-capacity-18783817.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Although it’s not exactly up there with this classic.
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[Smartie]

The most annoying thing about the whole Rangers/ Sevco saga is how difficult it is to get decent news or facts.

The Rangerstaxcase blog was excellent.

Utter pish, like what is in the article above, is par for the course for what you would expect to get from the MSM - interesting to see link halfway down the article to a story that Morelos was watched by AC Milan against Progres. I mean, this stuff is fantasy land drivel.

I don't really hold the Phil and JohnJames stuff in much higher regard. As was mentioned, Phil does deserve some credit for his work on the story, but his writing style is incredibly annoying to read. The other side of the coin from the Traynor led fanboys of the MSM is the frothing Celtic minded buffoon who exists in some remote place for their own safety because of the dynamite blogs they write, constantly predicting the imminent demise of Sevco - a demise that is yet to be seen but by contributing financially to the site you'll have ringside seat when it all kicks off.

If only there was something balanced in between.

The general comment on here is about as good as it gets.

I miss CropleyWasGod.

[grunt]

… Phil does deserve some credit for his work on the story, but his writing style is incredibly annoying to read.This! I just can't read his blog posts without getting annoyed at the writing.



I miss CropleyWasGod.Me too.

[Stonewall]

The most annoying thing about the whole Rangers/ Sevco saga is how difficult it is to get decent news or facts.

The Rangerstaxcase blog was excellent.

Utter pish, like what is in the article above, is par for the course for what you would expect to get from the MSM - interesting to see link halfway down the article to a story that Morelos was watched by AC Milan against Progres. I mean, this stuff is fantasy land drivel.

I don't really hold the Phil and JohnJames stuff in much higher regard. As was mentioned, Phil does deserve some credit for his work on the story, but his writing style is incredibly annoying to read. The other side of the coin from the Traynor led fanboys of the MSM is the frothing Celtic minded buffoon who exists in some remote place for their own safety because of the dynamite blogs they write, constantly predicting the imminent demise of Sevco - a demise that is yet to be seen but by contributing financially to the site you'll have ringside seat when it all kicks off.

If only there was something balanced in between.

The general comment on here is about as good as it gets.

I miss CropleyWasGod.

i gave up on John James as he’s clearly has mental health issues.

PMG seems to have good sources and doesn’t tend to post unless he’s something to say. Don’t mind his writing style but his brand of republican fundamentalism is annoying.

The Scottish Football monitor is well intentioned but is repetitive and feels like it is running out of steam a bit.

as others have said how do you keep up with all things Rangers if the press aren’t doing their job.

[Deansy]

Straight from the David Murray playbook. Sevconians all excited again and forgetting all about the large amounts of money due.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-talks-over-ibrox-capacity-18783817.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Although it’s not exactly up there with this classic.
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Shocker - Hun have a very bad day, 2-3 days later the 'Record' publishes a 'Its about to get bigger and better' article !

[Cataplana]

Shocker - Hun have a very bad day, 2-3 days later the 'Record' publishes a 'Its about to get bigger and better' article !

With its proximity to Glasgow International Airport, the casino is bound to be a magnet for all those oil rich arabs that didn't use the Golden Jubilee hospital. Fair play to the weedgies, if health care doesn't bring in the oil dollars, then gambling surely will.

Just see some Sheikh running through his list of places to go and blow a few million dollars: Las Vegas; Sun City; Govan.

Tough call.

[Future17]

Utter pish, like what is in the article above, is par for the course for what you would expect to get from the MSM - interesting to see link halfway down the article to a story that Morelos was watched by AC Milan against Progres. I mean, this stuff is fantasy land drivel.

The Morelos / Milan story originated from Italian media.