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Keith_M
15-02-2020, 09:19 AM
Rangers public relations chief Jim Traynor was the subject of an attack by two men in Cumbernauld on Wednesday afternoon. (The Sun)
From today’s bbc gossip column.
A source told The Sun (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/): "He was set upon by two thugs shouting sectarian abuse. It was an outrageous attack.
"The guy was minding his own business (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/a0/09/95a009d672920cd3fd8138ce36a6d7a3.jpg) and they just appeared and targeted him on the street.
"It’s disgraceful that this could happen."
Does anybody believe a word of this?
p.s.I switched the second link to something I thought was more appropriate... in case anybody was thinking that somebody at the Herald actually has a sense of humour...
CentreLine
15-02-2020, 09:40 AM
Any party would be pleased to have someone who can get away with so many lies working for them. Definitely a good fit for the fake news and dogwhistling approach.
This is the problem with anything that comes out from Traynor. If this story carries anything like the accuracy of reporting following the 2016 cup final the facts probably go more like this.
On a cold windy afternoon in Cumbernauld, a couple of elderly ladies leave the store with their shopping. As they do so a rotund and self infatuated individual is barging throughly the door and knocks in to them. He makes no apology but in his haste he has knocked one lady’s shopping from her hand and her fruit falls to the floor. Her friend manages to catch the grapes and apples but an orange rolls under the feet of the fat oaf. As the old lady struggles she cries out “get that orange”. But as the words leave her mouth, in a fit of selfish arrogance, the oaf kicks the orange away. She lets a small expletive slip as she mutters “bustard” But her friend brushes past the oaf and catches the orange with a reassuring “got the bustard” to her friend.
They recover themselves and head for the coffee shop for drinks and cakes. The oaf, on the other hand, is so affronted that someone got in his space ..............much more likely than the sun story I suspect. False news is just everywhere 🙄
Keith_M
15-02-2020, 09:49 AM
This is the problem with anything that comes out from Traynor. If this story carries anything like the accuracy of reporting following the 2016 cup final the facts probably go more like this.
On a cold windy afternoon in Cumbernauld, a couple of elderly ladies leave the store with their shopping. As they do so a rotund and self infatuated individual is barging throughly the door and knocks in to them. He makes no apology but in his haste he has knocked one lady’s shopping from her hand and her fruit falls to the floor. Her friend manages to catch the grapes and apples but an orange rolls under the feet of the fat oaf. As the old lady struggles she cries out “get that orange”. But as the words leave her mouth, in a fit of selfish arrogance, the oaf kicks the orange away. She lets a small expletive slip as she mutters “bustard” But her friend brushes past the oaf and catches the orange with a reassuring “got the bustard” to her friend.
They recover themselves and head for the coffee shop for drinks and cakes. The oaf, on the other hand, is so affronted that someone got in his space ..............much more likely than the sun story I suspect. False news is just everywhere 🙄
:top marks
(except for the spelling)
speedy_gonzales
15-02-2020, 01:36 PM
The BBC have put up a transcript of Craig Whyte discussing his time at Rangers on "Off the ball".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51515862?__twitter_impression=true
The last question/answer may upset a few;
Q: One emotionally very, very divisive issue, which to this day divides Scottish football, and that is are Rangers a new club? What's your view?
CW: Yes, obviously they are.
murray26
15-02-2020, 01:42 PM
He’s a horrible bigoted self righteous moron .. deserves all he gets.
ZAGREB RED
15-02-2020, 02:42 PM
https://www.rangersnews.uk/columnist/into-the-bear-pit-review-of-craig-whytes-ridiculous-rangers-book/
neil7908
16-02-2020, 10:13 AM
The BBC have put up a transcript of Craig Whyte disgusting good time at Rangers on "Off the ball".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51515862?__twitter_impression=true
The last question/answer may upset a few;
Q: One emotionally very, very divisive issue, which to this day divides Scottish football, and that is are Rangers a new club? What's your view?
CW: Yes, obviously they are.
Hilarious.
Is It On....
16-02-2020, 10:27 AM
The BBC have put up a transcript of Craig Whyte disgusting good time at Rangers on "Off the ball".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51515862?__twitter_impression=true
The last question/answer may upset a few;
Q: One emotionally very, very divisive issue, which to this day divides Scottish football, and that is are Rangers a new club? What's your view?
CW: Yes, obviously they are.
The bit about award winning journalist Jackson not realising the difference between "managing" and "owning" assets is brilliant.
Hibs4185
16-02-2020, 10:58 AM
This stuff with traynor being assaulted is a fishy one. He’s been in the news getting pelter’s after MS. The Morelos thing. This book coming out.
If he had been badly assaulted as a PR ‘guru’ I’m sure there would be pictures absolutely everywhere.
Think it’s a deflection tactic so people forget he’s a **** bag
KingPat4
16-02-2020, 11:04 AM
This stuff with traynor being assaulted is a fishy one. He’s been in the news getting pelter’s after MS. The Morelos thing. This book coming out.
If he had been badly assaulted as a PR ‘guru’ I’m sure there would be pictures absolutely everywhere.
Think it’s a deflection tactic so people forget he’s a **** bag
'They shouted abuse and threw a stone at him'.
What a woose, happens to me every day.
JohnMcM
16-02-2020, 11:14 AM
'They shouted abuse and threw a stone at him'.
What a woose, happens to me every day.
When it finishes writing that up, it'll read something like this,,,,,,,,, "I was in fear of my life and lucky not to be seriously injured. Make no bones about it, this was a riot, probably by Hibs fans who were hell bent upon finding and attacking the defenceless Rangers players. Just ask Lee Wallace he saw it all."
HUTCHYHIBBY
16-02-2020, 11:33 AM
Kenny Miller's wife said they didnae touch him.😉
Jack Hackett
16-02-2020, 01:25 PM
When it finishes writing that up, it'll read something like this,,,,,,,,, "I was in fear of my life and lucky not to be seriously injured. Make no bones about it, this was a riot, probably by Hibs fans who were hell bent upon finding and attacking the defenceless Rangers players, who were all taking shelter behind my corpulent frame. Just ask Lee Wallace he saw it all."
ftfy
Captain Trips
17-02-2020, 10:34 AM
This stuff with traynor being assaulted is a fishy one. He’s been in the news getting pelter’s after MS. The Morelos thing. This book coming out.
If he had been badly assaulted as a PR ‘guru’ I’m sure there would be pictures absolutely everywhere.
Think it’s a deflection tactic so people forget he’s a **** bag
Perhaps it was like in the film "Dirty Harry" When the Killer (Scorpio) paid a guy to beat him up so he could then say Harry beat him up.
Billy Whizz
17-02-2020, 10:50 AM
https://www.skysports.com/share/11936205
Joe6-2
17-02-2020, 10:53 AM
https://www.skysports.com/share/11936205
Does he forget what club he is at now, and it’s ‘history’?
Captain Trips
17-02-2020, 11:40 AM
Its like Ted Bundy telling John Gacy that your not a very nice guy.
Jack Hackett
17-02-2020, 11:48 AM
Does he forget what club he is at now, and it’s ‘history’?
8 year old clubs don't really have much history to speak of
Billy Whizz
17-02-2020, 11:57 AM
Does he forget what club he is at now, and it’s ‘history’?
Looks like he’s wanting a medal for 2014😜
Moulin Yarns
19-02-2020, 02:39 PM
Expect a statement soon :greengrin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51561933
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51561933)
Ozyhibby
19-02-2020, 07:54 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rangers-enter-market-for-kit-retail-partner/
Mike Ashley will be watching this with great interest. And so will Elite who are still technically their partner for next season.
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HoboHarry
19-02-2020, 08:20 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rangers-enter-market-for-kit-retail-partner/
Mike Ashley will be watching this with great interest. And so will Elite who are still technically their partner for next season.
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Aren't Sevco still legally obliged to show MA the terms of any potential new deal to afford him the opportunity to match it?
Ozyhibby
19-02-2020, 08:32 PM
Aren't Sevco still legally obliged to show MA the terms of any potential new deal to afford him the opportunity to match it?
I’m pretty sure that he will match the deal they have with elite for next season so I doubt they have any rights to sell.
Either way, no top drawer kit company is going to get involved knowing that their bid documents would have to be shown to Sports direct.
I think Sevco are running on fumes just now and are searching around desperately for cash. What kind of amateur outfit looks for a kit supplier by putting an ad on their website?
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1875godsgift
20-02-2020, 12:36 AM
8 year old clubs don't really have much history to speak of
No, but they still have a trophy cabinet full of cups and titles they haven't actually won.
FilipinoHibs
20-02-2020, 01:32 AM
The BBC have put up a transcript of Craig Whyte discussing his time at Rangers on "Off the ball".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51515862?__twitter_impression=true
The last question/answer may upset a few;
Q: One emotionally very, very divisive issue, which to this day divides Scottish football, and that is are Rangers a new club? What's your view?
CW: Yes, obviously they are.
Thought his answers were truthful and based on facts. The one bit he was not honest was why the administrators were brought it. HMRC put them in administration because Whyte had not been paying PAYE tax from the players salaries. Already a cash flow issue. He was right when he said he should have put them in administration straight away.
Jack Hackett
20-02-2020, 05:33 AM
No, but they still have a trophy cabinet full of cups and titles they haven't actually won.
Tbf, they do indeed... Even though they only paid a pound for them
Springbank
20-02-2020, 05:43 AM
Maybe Sports Direct are the ones who suggested to Rangers that TRFC should put out a press release inviting sportswear companies to bid for TRFC kit contracts?
As mentioned above, all the financials & other documentation would then have to be run past SD.
Cute move
jacomo
20-02-2020, 06:19 AM
Expect a statement soon :greengrin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51561933
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51561933)
I’m astounded.
:wink:
Sylar
20-02-2020, 09:14 AM
Even the weather is anti-Rangers now it seems - tonight's game is in doubt because of the state of their pitch and the continued forecast rain :greengrin
Billy Whizz
20-02-2020, 09:28 AM
Even the weather is anti-Rangers now it seems - tonight's game is in doubt because of the state of their pitch and the continued forecast rain :greengrin
Is it? Will have to be played tomorrow then
hibbyfraelibby
20-02-2020, 09:34 AM
Is it? Will have to be played tomorrow then
Under UEFA rule I believe that may actually be the case.
Billy Whizz
20-02-2020, 09:50 AM
Under UEFA rule I believe that may actually be the case.
It’s to save the cost of the away team and fans, having to travel back at another date. Makes perfect sense
Sylar
20-02-2020, 09:58 AM
It’s to save the cost of the away team and fans, having to travel back at another date. Makes perfect sense
I recall a match between Juventus and Galatasaraay being played the following day after it was postponed due to snow (?), so I think that is UEFA policy.
I'm in Glasgow just now and it's been pissing down most of the morning and the forecast for tonight into tomorrow is grim - what happens if neither tonight or tomorrow are possible? Move venue? Can you imagine the reaction :greengrin
Ozyhibby
20-02-2020, 10:04 AM
I’m all for anything that costs Sevco money which appears to be in short supply just now.
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Smartie
20-02-2020, 10:37 AM
I recall a match between Juventus and Galatasaraay being played the following day after it was postponed due to snow (?), so I think that is UEFA policy.
I'm in Glasgow just now and it's been pissing down most of the morning and the forecast for tonight into tomorrow is grim - what happens if neither tonight or tomorrow are possible? Move venue? Can you imagine the reaction :greengrin
How much to lend them ER for the night?
Sylar
20-02-2020, 10:48 AM
How much to lend them ER for the night?
Nah - would take too long to replace all of the seats they'd break and toilets they'd destroy before the Livi game.
Springbank
20-02-2020, 10:50 AM
I recall a match between Juventus and Galatasaraay being played the following day after it was postponed due to snow (?), so I think that is UEFA policy.
I'm in Glasgow just now and it's been pissing down most of the morning and the forecast for tonight into tomorrow is grim - what happens if neither tonight or tomorrow are possible? Move venue? Can you imagine the reaction :greengrin
Behind closed doors on an indoor pitch at Toryglen, the Oriam or Auchenhowie?
Ozyhibby
20-02-2020, 11:59 AM
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/newco-kit-deal-the-ashley-in-the-room/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Interesting article on how weird it is for a Club to be advertising for a kit manufacturer at this late stage for next season.
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surreyhibbie
20-02-2020, 12:25 PM
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/newco-kit-deal-the-ashley-in-the-room/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Interesting article on how weird it is for a Club to be advertising for a kit manufacturer at this late stage for next season.
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Wow! If that is accurate then Sevco could lose out big time...
Shame eh? :greengrin
Carheenlea
20-02-2020, 01:55 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VshNVgvL/472-DE768-2-B20-4724-A23-A-AB5-E13-A795-F3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/NL1Yy1RW)
Tomsk
20-02-2020, 01:58 PM
Wow! If that is accurate then Sevco could lose out big time...
Shame eh? :greengrin
Global fanbase - :rolleyes:
HoboHarry
20-02-2020, 02:49 PM
Global fanbase - :rolleyes:
Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....
Greencore
20-02-2020, 02:51 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VshNVgvL/472-DE768-2-B20-4724-A23-A-AB5-E13-A795-F3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/NL1Yy1RW)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Deansy
20-02-2020, 02:56 PM
Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....
Aren't they called 'Hobo's over there …………………………...
HoboHarry
20-02-2020, 03:01 PM
Aren't they called 'Hobo's over there …………………………...
You inferring I'm a Sevco fan ya bam? :greengrin
Haymaker
20-02-2020, 03:31 PM
Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....
I have. I was disgusted.
KingPat4
20-02-2020, 03:36 PM
I have. I was disgusted.
Last time I was in the USA we met a family of Hibbies at the airport, on their way home. Every one of them had a Hibs top on. The kids in full kit.
Haymaker
20-02-2020, 03:39 PM
Last time I was in the USA we met a family of Hibbies at the airport, on their way home. Every one of them had a Hibs top on. The kids in full kit.
A great sight to see.
HoboHarry
20-02-2020, 03:47 PM
A great sight to see.
Saw a Hibee at the Highland Games in Kansas City years ago and then saw the same guy again the following year :greengrin
Haymaker
20-02-2020, 03:49 PM
Saw a Hibee at the Highland Games in Kansas City years ago and then saw the same guy again the following year :greengrin
There's a big Scottish community in Kearny but they all seem to be Celtc supporters.
Ozyhibby
21-02-2020, 03:34 PM
Statement from Hummel / Elite
Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
“The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
“We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
“We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
“We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”
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green day
21-02-2020, 03:36 PM
Statement from Hummel / Elite
Jeez, is there any aspect of that horrible club where they are not under threat of going to the courts?
HoboHarry
21-02-2020, 03:43 PM
Article from CQN says that their online store is now selling old Puma jerseys from the 17/18 season. Hope the players don't get any holes in their shirts between now and the end of the season and I imagine the players will be fined if they swap shirts at the end of a game :faf:
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/hummel-elite-rescind-newco-agreement-start-proceedings/
jacomo
21-02-2020, 04:42 PM
Article from CQN says that their online store is now selling old Puma jerseys from the 17/18 season. Hope the players don't get any holes in their shirts between now and the end of the season and I imagine the players will be fined if they swap shirts at the end of a game :faf:
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/hummel-elite-rescind-newco-agreement-start-proceedings/
More to the point, Hummel are giving Sevco’s legal proceedings short shrift.
This is not the way to run a football club and there is not a limitless well of commercial partners to dip into.
Deansy
21-02-2020, 05:03 PM
You inferring I'm a Sevco fan ya bam? :greengrin
Aaargh, only just noticed your name - of course I wasn't, no-one deserves such a slur apart from the 'loyal', genuine scraper-of-the-knuckle !
O'Rourke3
21-02-2020, 05:45 PM
Statement from Hummel / Elite
Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
“The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
“We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
“We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
“We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHilarious. Der Hun have had as much success in court as they have trophies since they zombified.
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Keith_M
21-02-2020, 06:23 PM
Der Hun have had as much success in court as they have trophies since they zombified.
Be fair, they've won FOUR trophies.
:greengrin
Sylar
21-02-2020, 07:25 PM
Indeed. Now it's true that I don't live on the east coast where (maybe) there are Sevco fans but I can truthfully say that in 19 years of living here in the USA I have never, not once, seen anyone wearing a Sevco top.....
You're doing well then - I've been living half of the year in the USA for the past 3 years (just south of the Bay Area) and I see them from time to time whenever I'm up in San Fran. More Tims though for some reason.
Either are nauseating.
Spike Mandela
21-02-2020, 07:28 PM
Statement from Hummel / Elite
Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
“The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
“We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
“We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
“We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”
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Nobody is going to touch the ‘Rangers’ brand with a bargepole now. I reckon they could be in dire straits.
Ozyhibby
21-02-2020, 07:52 PM
Nobody is going to touch the ‘Rangers’ brand with a bargepole now. I reckon they could be in dire straits.
I think they must be running on fumes by now. They needed £10m to finish the season and I haven’t heard of them receiving it yet. And signs are that they are scratching around for cash.
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HoboHarry
21-02-2020, 08:02 PM
Nobody is going to touch the ‘Rangers’ brand with a bargepole now. I reckon they could be in dire straits.
:agree: Any company thinking about it will know that whatever they offer they might make has to be made known to Mike Ashley to give him the opportunity to match it.
Ozyhibby
21-02-2020, 08:09 PM
:agree: Any company thinking about it will know that whatever they offer they might make has to be made known to Mike Ashley to give him the opportunity to match it.
Wonder what date the have to inform the SPFL and SFA about the design of next years strip? Things are going to be very tight for them making deadlines if they are only putting amateur hour ads on their website now.
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04Sauzee
21-02-2020, 08:22 PM
Read somewhere that the Hummell story could be a hoax
CloudSquall
21-02-2020, 08:43 PM
If they had faced up to the situation when they got back into the top flight they would have accepted that 10 in a row was done and dusted due to Celtic's Champions League / Europa League adventures during their wilderness years and competing with Celtic in the near future over the course of a season was going to be too much for them.
Instead they should have concentrated on a slow rise, within their means or at worst with managable levels of borrowing, to get back to competing with Celtic year in year out for the title.
Of course the hordes can never accept being 2nd, not even for one year, so instead they've decided to embark on "The Road to Administration: The Sequel" which I imagine will conclude next year when it will be do or die in an attempt to stop Celtic from getting 10 in a row.
I can only imagine the scenes if that was clinched at Ibrox.
Ozyhibby
21-02-2020, 09:00 PM
If they had faced up to the situation when they got back into the top flight they would have accepted that 10 in a row was done and dusted due to Celtic's Champions League / Europa League adventures during their wilderness years and competing with Celtic in the near future over the course of a season was going to be too much for them.
Instead they should have concentrated on a slow rise, within their means or at worst with managable levels of borrowing, to get back to competing with Celtic year in year out for the title.
Of course the hordes can never accept being 2nd, not even for one year, so instead they've decided to embark on "The Road to Administration: The Sequel" which I imagine will conclude next year when it will be do or die in an attempt to stop Celtic from getting 10 in a row.
I can only imagine the scenes if that was clinched at Ibrox.
The problem with the slow build is that they have a structural deficit on Celtic that can’t easily be bridged. Celtic have 10,000 extra seats to sell every game and they have a well established retail operation built up over many years. They are about to add a hotel to that as well. Sevco’s turnover is less than half Celtics even without champions league football.
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O'Rourke3
21-02-2020, 09:01 PM
Be fair, they've won FOUR trophies.
:greengrinThis is true. In 4 years of potentially no competition they failed to win the Petrofac cup 3 times. So the rate should be higher. When they came up against real competion in a blue riband trophy they somehow managed not to succeed.
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Tomsk
21-02-2020, 09:51 PM
Statement from Hummel / Elite
Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group was proud to have entered into a supplier agreement with Rangers Football Club in good faith in March 2018. We saw this as an opportunity to work together for the benefit of the club, its supporters and the Hummel brand.
“However, despite being given warranties and assurances by the Rangers board that the club was free to enter into their arrangement, it transpired that Rangers had previously signed a conflicting agreement with a third party.
“The club has therefore been unable to fulfil its obligations to Hummel & The Elite Group, which would have included the creation of a Hummel branded area within the Ibrox Megastore, along with crucial marketing activity such as perimeter advertising, player activations, and promotion on the Rangers FC website.
“Hummel UK & The Elite Group has nonetheless made payments to Rangers totalling c. £2.5m and supplied kit worth approximately £1m. Despite doing all of this in good faith, we are now facing some public statements from Rangers which are not correct.
“We have been unable to find a way forward despite making repeated efforts to reach out to the club. It is with regret that we have therefore rescinded our agreement with Rangers FC with immediate effect, due to the club being in material breach of contract.
“We remain willing to try and resolve matters with Rangers FC on an amicable basis. Contrary to reports, Rangers is not owed any further payments from Hummel UK & The Elite Group at this time and we are disappointed by Rangers’ decision to commence legal proceedings in respect of these issues. Those proceedings will not result in any payment to Rangers and are an unwelcome and unnecessary distraction for the club, its fans and Hummel.
“We have now begun our own legal proceedings against Rangers which we are very confident will result in a positive outcome so we can all move forward.”
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Ha Ha! Serves the tossers right.
Monts
21-02-2020, 10:52 PM
Anyone got a link to the Hummel statement? Can only find it on Celtic related sites with quotes but no link to the original. Makes me suspicious.
Radium
22-02-2020, 08:17 AM
Anyone got a link to the Hummel statement? Can only find it on Celtic related sites with quotes but no link to the original. Makes me suspicious.
The only sources seem to be Celtic leaning. Only non partisan report I can find is
https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/rangers-in-search-for-new-kit-sponsor-as-legal-row-persists/
but no mention of the Hummel/ Elite statement
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Ronniekirk
24-02-2020, 01:59 PM
In terms of Sporting Integrity I want them to go on winning nothing for as long as possible
It’s the only thing now that gets to them
They keep thinking g they are back but the longer they go without winning anything it confirms they aren’t Even if they are the best of the rest
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matty_f
24-02-2020, 10:15 PM
In terms of Sporting Integrity I want them to go on winning nothing for as long as possible
It’s the only thing now that gets to them
They keep thinking g they are back but the longer they go without winning anything it confirms they aren’t Even if they are the best of the rest
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:agree:
jacomo
24-02-2020, 10:22 PM
If they had faced up to the situation when they got back into the top flight they would have accepted that 10 in a row was done and dusted due to Celtic's Champions League / Europa League adventures during their wilderness years and competing with Celtic in the near future over the course of a season was going to be too much for them.
Instead they should have concentrated on a slow rise, within their means or at worst with managable levels of borrowing, to get back to competing with Celtic year in year out for the title.
Of course the hordes can never accept being 2nd, not even for one year, so instead they've decided to embark on "The Road to Administration: The Sequel" which I imagine will conclude next year when it will be do or die in an attempt to stop Celtic from getting 10 in a row.
I can only imagine the scenes if that was clinched at Ibrox.
If they had resisted playing the victim card, shown some humility, not been bought by glib and shameless liars, not hired Jim Traynor, and generally been a whole lot less obnoxious, they might have created a more attractive Phoenix from the flames story and attracted the investment to take Celtc on.
The constant ranting and claims of injustice show that they might be a new club but they’ve learnt nothing.
FilipinoHibs
25-02-2020, 04:44 AM
With £35.4 million of directors debt converted to equity, £11.4 million losses last season and needing £10 million to keep Rangers running to the end of the season, how much are they willing to blow to stop 10 in a row? Will they make wholesale changes - sack Gerrard and sell Morelos? What about the long term contracts of ageing players? Who would they bring in ? How much would it cost? £50 million more needs to be blown for a serious challenge but one that would have no guarantee of success. Going to be good to watch.
JimBHibees
25-02-2020, 06:26 AM
If they had resisted playing the victim card, shown some humility, not been bought by glib and shameless liars, not hired Jim Traynor, and generally been a whole lot less obnoxious, they might have created a more attractive Phoenix from the flames story and attracted the investment to take Celtc on.
The constant ranting and claims of injustice show that they might be a new club but they’ve learnt nothing.
Totally agree if they had come back and actually apologised for cheating to everyone in the game and started back not employing dodgy owners and directors who clearly pandered to the Neanderthal element of their support they might have had more empathy from others in the game. Unfortunately they can't help with the attitude of superiority and entitlement that club has running through its veins.
In many ways they are worse as they convince themselves they have been done over. Can remember an interview with the ex manager who is only referred to by his first name, Walter. He was going on about not forgetting who had put the boot into them apparently when they were down on their luck. :rolleyes:
Ozyhibby
25-02-2020, 08:38 AM
With £35.4 million of directors debt converted to equity, £11.4 million losses last season and needing £10 million to keep Rangers running to the end of the season, how much are they willing to blow to stop 10 in a row? Will they make wholesale changes - sack Gerrard and sell Morelos? What about the long term contracts of ageing players? Who would they bring in ? How much would it cost? £50 million more needs to be blown for a serious challenge but one that would have no guarantee of success. Going to be good to watch.
There is no evidence that the money is even there to continue as they are never mind invest more. Could be an interesting summer.
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Gloucester Hibs
25-02-2020, 08:50 AM
They'd be bonkers to sack Gerrard, they've shown year on year improvement under him and I'd give them a 50/50 chance of stopping 10 in a row if he stays for another season. Unfortunately for the Huns I reckon he'll be offsky in the summer while his stock is still pretty high. :lolrangers:
Ozyhibby
25-02-2020, 09:16 AM
They'd be bonkers to sack Gerrard, they've shown year on year improvement under him and I'd give them a 50/50 chance of stopping 10 in a row if he stays for another season. Unfortunately for the Huns I reckon he'll be offsky in the summer while his stock is still pretty high. :lolrangers:
They have to considerably cut their playing budget next season as things stand. Can’t see him staying in those circumstances. They are further behind Celtic now than they were at this stage last season. Not really an improvement.
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Gloucester Hibs
25-02-2020, 09:18 AM
They have to considerably cut their playing budget next season as things stand. Can’t see him staying in those circumstances. They are further behind Celtic now than they were at this stage last season. Not really an improvement.
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Didn't realise that. Their performances against us, Celtic, and in Europe - which is pretty much the only games of theirs I've seen - are definitely an improvement on last season IMO.
Hibs4185
25-02-2020, 09:23 AM
Hopefully the £2 million they pay us for Kamberi pushes them over the edge and back into another liquidation
Steven79
25-02-2020, 09:28 AM
Hopefully the £2 million they pay us for Kamberi pushes them over the edge and back into another liquidation
I wouldn't be taking a cheque from them...
Rumble de Thump
25-02-2020, 09:30 AM
Didn't realise that. Their performances against us, Celtic, and in Europe - which is pretty much the only games of theirs I've seen - are definitely an improvement on last season IMO.
Probably has more to do with the tens of millions of pounds they've overspent by rather than Gerrard.
Smartie
25-02-2020, 09:35 AM
I wouldn't be taking a cheque from them...
We should help our friends in the West by relieving them of the burden of having to pay Greg Docherty’s wages.
Ozyhibby
25-02-2020, 09:45 AM
Probably has more to do with the tens of millions of pounds they've overspent by rather than Gerrard.
Yip. Their wage bill has doubled under Gerrard. He has brought more in because of the Euro runs but it is not enough.
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stuart-farquhar
25-02-2020, 10:04 AM
You're doing well then - I've been living half of the year in the USA for the past 3 years (just south of the Bay Area) and I see them from time to time whenever I'm up in San Fran. More Tims though for some reason.
Either are nauseating.
Never seen any myself. Although saw a car with an Arsenal plate on the 101 recently near Petaluma.
jacomo
25-02-2020, 10:29 AM
Hopefully the £2 million they pay us for Kamberi pushes them over the edge and back into another liquidation
£2m + Doherty and it’s a deal.
It’s ok though, because the Zombies believe in Kamberi and think they can turn him into the £30m player that Morelos obviously isn’t.
BILLYHIBS
25-02-2020, 10:39 AM
£2m + Doherty and it’s a deal.
It’s ok though, because the Zombies believe in Kamberi and think they can turn him into the £30m player that Morelos obviously isn’t.
Freddos discipline lets him down
Looks as though it will always be a problem for him
Management and colleagues have spoken to him about it and it’s affect on the team but it is still there
He can’t help himself
JeMeSouviens
25-02-2020, 10:49 AM
They have to considerably cut their playing budget next season as things stand. Can’t see him staying in those circumstances. They are further behind Celtic now than they were at this stage last season. Not really an improvement.
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Celtic have improved a fair bit since last year though. I think Sevco have got better but the gap is similar.
From Gerrard's pov, he has probably done ok reputationally so far but still has nothing tangible to show for it and no realistic prospect of the sort of money to spend that would get his squad up to par with Celtic's. If he's smart and gets an offer down south then this summer might be a good time to move for him.
They'll only sack him if the Huns lose faith and ST renewals drop.
FilipinoHibs
25-02-2020, 11:10 AM
Celtic have improved a fair bit since last year though. I think Sevco have got better but the gap is similar.
From Gerrard's pov, he has probably done ok reputationally so far but still has nothing tangible to show for it and no realistic prospect of the sort of money to spend that would get his squad up to par with Celtic's. If he's smart and gets an offer down south then this summer might be a good time to move for him.
They'll only sack him if the Huns lose faith and ST renewals drop.
They need to stop 10 in a row. Gerrard looks like he can't do it. They need a Wim Jansen type of appointment. With four years left on his contract probably a £2 million pay off would do it. Probably a global whip round of Orangemen to raise money for a Stop 10 in a Row.
JeMeSouviens
25-02-2020, 11:56 AM
They need to stop 10 in a row. Gerrard looks like he can't do it. They need a Wim Jansen type of appointment. With four years left on his contract probably a £2 million pay off would do it. Probably a global whip round of Orangemen to raise money for a Stop 10 in a Row.
Spoiler alert: they won't. While it's a pity we're going to have to put up with Celtc uebergloatery, the overwhelming Hun misery is going to be truly wonderful. :wink:
Hibs Class
25-02-2020, 12:03 PM
Spoiler alert: they won't. While it's a pity we're going to have to put up with Celtc uebergloatery, the overwhelming Hun misery is going to be truly wonderful. :wink:
Indeed, although they'll have their "150th anniversary" to console themselves with in the 11 in a row season :faf:
Ozyhibby
25-02-2020, 12:09 PM
Indeed, although they'll have their "150th anniversary" to console themselves with in the 11 in a row season :faf:
Wonder if Celtic will get to 55 before them?
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hibbyfraelibby
25-02-2020, 12:39 PM
Wonder if Celtic will get to 55 before them?
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Well as the earliest "they" could reach 55 is 2076 I reckon there's a good chance.
Keith_M
25-02-2020, 01:14 PM
There is no evidence that the money is even there to continue as they are never mind invest more. Could be an interesting summer.
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I'd imagine they'll use the income from next season's Season Tickets to get them through this season.
That seems to be standard practice for them.
JohnMcM
25-02-2020, 01:16 PM
Well as the earliest "they" could reach 55 is 2076 I reckon there's a good chance.
2076!
I won't see that then. I'll have been dead for nigh on 50 years I reckon.
Still got time to see us lift the big cup again though.
jacomo
25-02-2020, 01:18 PM
Spoiler alert: they won't. While it's a pity we're going to have to put up with Celtc uebergloatery, the overwhelming Hun misery is going to be truly wonderful. :wink:
We’re gonna win the league next season with Jack Ross at the wheel.
Celtc and Rearrangerz will be left in our wake.
Is It On....
25-02-2020, 02:25 PM
Indeed, although they'll have their "150th anniversary" to console themselves with in the 11 in a row season :faf:
Surely you meant 10th anniversary? 🙂
InchHibby
25-02-2020, 02:39 PM
Heard some Sevco fans saying it’s not good for Scottish Football, one team winning the League all the time, suppose it would be okay though if they were winning it too. Fech them, as much as I dislike that other mob winning it year after year it gives me great pleasure that at least one of them ain’t winning nowt.
JeMeSouviens
25-02-2020, 02:39 PM
Surely you meant 10th anniversary? 🙂
Nah, to be fair, it will be Rangers' 150th anniversary. Shame they won't be alive to see others celebrating it. :wink:
JeMeSouviens
25-02-2020, 02:42 PM
Heard some Sevco fans saying it’s not good for Scottish Football, one team winning the League all the time, suppose it would be okay though if they were winning it too. Fech them, as much as I dislike that other mob winning it year after year it gives me great pleasure that at least one of them ain’t winning nowt.
Funnily enough, I don't remember any Rangers fans saying that from 1989-97 and most of them support Sevco now. :rolleyes:
For the rest of us. If you support any of horses 3-12, wtf does it matter if it's a 1 horse or 2 horse race?
Geo_1875
25-02-2020, 09:15 PM
Heard some Sevco fans saying it’s not good for Scottish Football, one team winning the League all the time, suppose it would be okay though if they were winning it too. Fech them, as much as I dislike that other mob winning it year after year it gives me great pleasure that at least one of them ain’t winning nowt.
The pundits kept saying Scottish football needed Rangers in the league to challenge Celtc. That's going well, isn't it.
cabbageandribs1875
25-02-2020, 09:35 PM
assuming it aint gonna be us winning the league i hope sellick win the next five titles at least, sevco mk11 will surely ensue, i just hope the rules were changed allowing them to **** off straight to the lowland leagues
Eyrie
25-02-2020, 09:48 PM
assuming it aint gonna be us winning the league i hope sellick win the next five titles at least, sevco mk11 will surely ensue, i just hope the rules were changed allowing them to **** off straight to the lowland leagues
The longer Celtc's run of consecutive league wins continues, the less impressive it becomes as it will only highlight the lack of competition. It'll be the same if they win the treble again this year.
So I can put up with Celtc getting thirteen in a row if it kills off Sevco.
HoboHarry
25-02-2020, 09:50 PM
The longer Celtc's run of consecutive league wins continues, the less impressive it becomes as it will only highlight the lack of competition. It'll be the same if they win the treble again this year.
So I can put up with Celtc getting thirteen in a row if it kills off Sevco.
Sevco are still going to be here in four years time? Ferkin doom merchant.....
Eyrie
25-02-2020, 10:02 PM
Sevco are still going to be here in four years time? Ferkin doom merchant.....
It'll get worse than that.
There will then be another new club that will pay £1 for the honours that Sevco purchased from the liquidation of Huns RIP, wear blue with an orange away strip, play at Ibrox and have "Rangers" somewhere in its name. It'll even have the same knuckledragging bigots for a support as Huns RIP and Sevco.
JeMeSouviens
25-02-2020, 10:08 PM
It'll get worse than that.
There will then be another new club that will pay £1 for the honours that Sevco purchased from the liquidation of Huns RIP, wear blue with an orange away strip, play at Ibrox and have "Rangers" somewhere in its name. It'll even have the same knuckledragging bigots for a support as Huns RIP and Sevco.
I think their company structure will "save" them next time (if it comes). The debt will be dumped in Rangers International FC plc and The Rangers FC Ltd (formerly Sevco Scotland) will be sold on.
Deansy
25-02-2020, 10:32 PM
In terms of Sporting Integrity I want them to go on winning nothing for as long as possible
It’s the only thing now that gets to them
They keep thinking g they are back but the longer they go without winning anything it confirms they aren’t Even if they are the best of the rest
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Totally agree 100% - ok it's not great Septic winning season-after-season but the up-side is knowing what damage it's doing to the Hun !. The average 'Scraper-of-the-Knuckle' will know, deep down, that his team will never emulate this and that realistically his club's future is hoping to be 'Best of the rest' - in other words - SECOND - and even that's not guaranteed !. Once 10-iar is confirmed watch the 'Loyal' prove that they're anything but !
sambajustice
25-02-2020, 10:48 PM
I got sent weird message from a Celtic mate tonight that he'd been sent. Looks like some real Celtic fantasist stuff. It goes on about dressing room splits, bullying, prostitutes, Gerrard's wife, morelos in the huff and some other stuff.
Whilst I dont believe any of it, anything that indicates they might be in turmoil is pleasing to me!!
Haymaker
25-02-2020, 10:52 PM
I got sent weird message from a Celtic mate tonight that he'd been sent. Looks like some real Celtic fantasist stuff. It goes on about dressing room splits, bullying, prostitutes, Gerrard's wife, morelos in the huff and some other stuff.
Whilst I dont believe any of it, anything that indicates they might be in turmoil is pleasing to me!!
Saw that on twitter.
I got sent weird message from a Celtic mate tonight that he'd been sent. Looks like some real Celtic fantasist stuff. It goes on about dressing room splits, bullying, prostitutes, Gerrard's wife, morelos in the huff and some other stuff.
Whilst I dont believe any of it, anything that indicates they might be in turmoil is pleasing to me!!
Imagine what it'll be like in the run up to 10 in a row.
I got sent weird message from a Celtic mate tonight that he'd been sent. Looks like some real Celtic fantasist stuff. It goes on about dressing room splits, bullying, prostitutes, Gerrard's wife, morelos in the huff and some other stuff.
Whilst I dont believe any of it, anything that indicates they might be in turmoil is pleasing to me!!
https://twitter.com/footballbarber/status/1232289637802139649
FilipinoHibs
26-02-2020, 10:28 AM
https://twitter.com/footballbarber/status/1232289637802139649
Yes saw that story on Facebook. Also claims split dressing room which Gary Mac denied had happened in Dubai so probably some truth. Also a player in the Priory for depression and Morelos not spoken to Gerrard since December. Form has certainly dipped post break.
Deansy
26-02-2020, 03:48 PM
https://twitter.com/footballbarber/status/1232289637802139649
……… '7 Players caught with prostitutes'
Ha-ha-ha - today's average footballer is normally knee-deep in females - the stigma of being a Hun means 'Cash-only' !
HoboHarry
26-02-2020, 03:52 PM
……… '7 Players caught with prostitutes'
Ha-ha-ha - today's average footballer is normally knee-deep in females - the stigma of being a Hun means 'Cash-only' !
:greengrin :top marks
hibbyfraelibby
26-02-2020, 03:54 PM
……… '7 Players caught with prostitutes'
Ha-ha-ha - today's average footballer is normally knee-deep in females - the stigma of being a Hun means 'Cash-only' !
Wonder if the girls insisted in cash for up front and no backdoor payments?
HoboHarry
26-02-2020, 04:01 PM
Wonder if the girls insisted in cash for up front and no backdoor payments?
There used to be constant rumours about a foreign born ex-player who particularly enjoyed back door payments......
HUTCHYHIBBY
26-02-2020, 05:39 PM
no backdoor payments?
that would be surprisingly generous of the ladies. 😉
Is It On....
26-02-2020, 09:02 PM
There used to be constant rumours about a foreign born ex-player who particularly enjoyed back door payments......
Remember the ICF / West am' song about their own Trevor Morley, and Ian Ian Bishop is..
cabbageandribs1875
26-02-2020, 10:00 PM
The longer Celtc's run of consecutive league wins continues, the less impressive it becomes as it will only highlight the lack of competition. It'll be the same if they win the treble again this year.
So I can put up with Celtc getting thirteen in a row if it kills off Sevco.
unfortunately the "turmoil" that they're supposedly in has got them entry into the last 16 of the europa league 😕 i'd rather they came out of this turmoil 😁
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 10:21 PM
https://twitter.com/footballbarber/status/1232289637802139649
I smell sheite.
Unfortunately.
KingPat4
27-02-2020, 09:14 AM
At it again with the party songs last night.
Hopefully EUFA have taken note and will act upon it.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 09:17 AM
unfortunately the "turmoil" that they're supposedly in has got them entry into the last 16 of the europa league [emoji53] i'd rather they came out of this turmoil [emoji16]
Last time they were in turmoil they had just won 3 titles in a row under Walter Smith. It’s almost like if you spend more than you earn then you get some short term success.
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BILLYHIBS
27-02-2020, 09:21 AM
At it again with the party songs last night.
Hopefully EUFA have taken note and will act upon it.
Hope so
Absolutely disgraceful behaviour
They need to be taken to task every time until it stops
I hope they do not let them away with it
Oscar T Grouch
27-02-2020, 10:54 AM
This maybe controversial but when the huns sing in full voice about their players or about their club it is impressive, so why they need to ruin it by singing about catholics and the pope is totally beyond me. They got a famous victory last night, they managed to get into the last 16 of a Euro tournament and they did it with a great performance away from home and yet what this will be remembered for is the fine and censure that will come from UEFA because they couldn't just sing about their players and team, they had to broadcast to the watching public that the hate catholics and want to fek the pope and the vatican.:rolleyes:
Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 11:12 AM
This maybe controversial but when the huns sing in full voice about their players or about their club it is impressive, so why they need to ruin it by singing about catholics and the pope is totally beyond me. They got a famous victory last night, they managed to get into the last 16 of a Euro tournament and they did it with a great performance away from home and yet what this will be remembered for is the fine and censure that will come from UEFA because they couldn't just sing about their players and team, they had to broadcast to the watching public that the hate catholics and want to fek the pope and the vatican.:rolleyes:
Have they got any songs about their players or their team? Have they got any happy songs? They always seem angry about something or someone.
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Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 11:15 AM
Have they got any songs about their players or their team? Have they got any happy songs? They always seem angry about something or someone.
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ballengeich
27-02-2020, 11:26 AM
https://twitter.com/footballbarber/status/1232289637802139649
Morelos wants a new club and Gerrard's wife won't leave Merseyside are believeable. I'm sceptical about the rest.
Cataplana
27-02-2020, 11:33 AM
This maybe controversial but when the huns sing in full voice about their players or about their club it is impressive, so why they need to ruin it by singing about catholics and the pope is totally beyond me. They got a famous victory last night, they managed to get into the last 16 of a Euro tournament and they did it with a great performance away from home and yet what this will be remembered for is the fine and censure that will come from UEFA because they couldn't just sing about their players and team, they had to broadcast to the watching public that the hate catholics and want to fek the pope and the vatican.:rolleyes:
Baz Kent Agrees
PatHead
27-02-2020, 11:45 AM
Wonder if uefa will order their next game to be played behind closed doors? They have already had to close a section and not learnt anything.
Ronniekirk
27-02-2020, 12:21 PM
At it again with the party songs last night.
Hopefully EUFA have taken note and will act upon it.
Surely if they are being consistent they have to .But how many times can you fine a club and close sections of their stadium before realising a certain section of their fans will never stop this type of behaviour
What sanctions can they then impose for repeatedly breaking the same rule
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Ronniekirk
27-02-2020, 12:24 PM
Last time they were in turmoil they had just won 3 titles in a row under Walter Smith. It’s almost like if you spend more than you earn then you get some short term success.
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As long as you have a decent manager and recruit the right calibre of players and. An fell then as a team that’s probably a given
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Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 07:44 PM
https://www.facebook.com/658551547588605/posts/2516816301762111/?vh=e
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Jack Hackett
27-02-2020, 08:07 PM
Wonder if uefa will order their next game to be played behind closed doors? They have already had to close a section and not learnt anything.
Surely if they are being consistent they have to .But how many times can you fine a club and close sections of their stadium before realising a certain section of their fans will never stop this type of behaviour
What sanctions can they then impose for repeatedly breaking the same rule
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Sooner or later, they'll just ban them from the competition... Hopefully!
tamig
27-02-2020, 09:37 PM
Sooner or later, they'll just ban them from the competition... Hopefully!
Thats in UEFAs rules. Partial closures, closed doors, points deduction then out.
Phil MaGlass
28-02-2020, 07:46 AM
looks like they will make a pretty penny from their run too, to keep the afloat, a minimum of 20 million, plus sell one or two players will see them clear.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51670933?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story
Ronniekirk
28-02-2020, 08:30 AM
looks like they will make a pretty penny from their run too, to keep the afloat, a minimum of 20 million, plus sell one or two players will see them clear.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51670933?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story
It’s his European runs and money generated that have kept him in a job His win ratio in the league is worse than other Rangers managers that lost their job
But at the start of every season he is under pressure to do it all again
He has also spent more money than other managers were given
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angus hibby
28-02-2020, 08:34 AM
At it again with the party songs last night.
Hopefully EUFA have taken note and will act upon it.
Shameful that once again, the TV & radio commentators turn a blind eye to it too. They should be highlighting it every single time the songs get sung, not praising them for being in fine voice FFS!!
ballengeich
28-02-2020, 08:44 AM
looks like they will make a pretty penny from their run too, to keep the afloat, a minimum of 20 million, plus sell one or two players will see them clear.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51670933?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story
The £11.4m quoted isn't what Rangers get. It's the total for all teams in the last 16 round. Celtic's elimination means that Rangers get the full Scottish quota rather than sharing it. While I don't know how the figure's calculated - I think it has something to do with tv audiences - the benefit to them's unlikely to be more than half a million.
jacomo
28-02-2020, 09:06 AM
It’s his European runs and money generated that have kept him in a job His win ratio in the league is worse than other Rangers managers that lost their job
But at the start of every season he is under pressure to do it all again
He has also spent more money than other managers were given
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European football is an absolutely critical income stream to them. In that respect, Gerrard is doing his job.
Deansy
01-03-2020, 01:54 PM
Beautiful thread over on 'Loyal-media' -
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topic/326762-theres-no-recovering-from-this/
'Psychologically, that dressing room has a loser's mentality. The big players in the team continue to fail to turn up when the game turns into a battle. Gerrard continues to fail to turn up when the game turns into a battle, not having a clue how to change things or what to do. Technically there's absolutely no question these players are good enough but unfortunately mentally they're absolutely nowhere near it. Teams know they can get at us and our players go into their shells and stop taking responsibility and passing the buck on to others We're utterly ****ed and there's no chance we are stopping 10 next year, we simply do not have the budget to make wholesale changes to this team to find players who might not be as good but have the right attitude and mentality'
8 lovely, angst-filled pages in and there's still very few disagreeing with the OP - is this the start of their now-legendary 'Loyalty only happens when we're winning' tradition making it's regular appearance ?.. Gonna be interesting to see their season-ticket sales for 2020-21 as 10-iar becomes more and more inevitable !
Ozyhibby
27-03-2020, 07:31 PM
Dave King departs the sinking ship.
https://news.stv.tv/sport/dave-king-steps-down-as-rangers-chairman-and-thanks-supporters?top
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/e6679014e037b02f9d3f16a68d457279.plist
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HoboHarry
27-03-2020, 08:49 PM
Dave King departs the sinking ship.
https://news.stv.tv/sport/dave-king-steps-down-as-rangers-chairman-and-thanks-supporters?top
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/e6679014e037b02f9d3f16a68d457279.plist
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Said the same thing on the other thread but I'm wondering if King being cold shouldered meant he had to step down in order for Sevco to get any Government sponsored financial help?
Ozyhibby
27-03-2020, 09:05 PM
Said the same thing on the other thread but I'm wondering if King being cold shouldered meant he had to step down in order for Sevco to get any Government sponsored financial help?
Government bail out loans have to come through banks. I doubt they want to get involved with Sevco for the same reason Hearts were knocked back.
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PatHead
27-03-2020, 09:18 PM
CropleyWasGod comes back and sevco take a step towards administration. Spooky or what?
JohnM1875
27-03-2020, 09:23 PM
CropleyWasGod comes back and sevco take a step towards administration. Spooky or what?
No way! He's back!?
Sounds like even Rangers aren't planning to shaft their staff, unlike some.
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/the-rangers-football-club-limited-update/
Ozyhibby
06-04-2020, 10:07 PM
Sound like even Rangers aren't planning to shaft their staff, unlike some.
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/the-rangers-football-club-limited-update/
That reads like a 100% deferral? If so then it creates a new £8m debt for the new club.
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tamig
06-04-2020, 10:10 PM
Sound like even Rangers aren't planning to shaft their staff, unlike some.
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/the-rangers-football-club-limited-update/
Nice to look at the first item listed in their “Popular” section just below the article you quote.
Green Reaper
06-04-2020, 10:25 PM
Nice to look at the first item listed in their “Popular” section just below the article you quote.
They really can't let it go... brings a warmth to my Heart😁
HoboHarry
06-04-2020, 10:39 PM
That reads like a 100% deferral? If so then it creates a new £8m debt for the new club.
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Phil Mac inferred that government help could only be sought if all taxes were up to date and good. No idea myself if that's correct but it does give pause for thought.
tamig
06-04-2020, 10:46 PM
They really can't let it go... brings a warmth to my Heart😁
Reading it back now I still can’t believe that pile of pish is still on their site. It’s comedy gold and the reason for its popularity can only be down to the number of non-hun visitors who drop by for a wee chuckle.
It could easily have been written by a hysterical ten year old.
Captain Trips
07-04-2020, 08:35 AM
Reading it back now I still can’t believe that pile of pish is still on their site. It’s comedy gold and the reason for its popularity can only be down to the number of non-hun visitors who drop by for a wee chuckle.
It could easily have been written by a hysterical ten year old.
What is this about?
Green forever
07-04-2020, 08:41 AM
What is this about?
A pitch invasion to celebrate Andy Halliday scoring the winner in a Scottish Cup Final...
tamig
07-04-2020, 09:23 AM
What is this about?
Hibs fans acting like savages and some of the media trying to pin the blame on innocent hun supporters. Some game at Hampden apparently a few years back.
Brunswickbill
07-04-2020, 10:59 AM
Just saw this on Twitter - Sevco statement “Rangers intends to implement the Coronavirus job retention scheme for a number of employees.” Let’s all sing “Furlough, furlough, we will furlough Rangers.”
CropleyWasGod
07-04-2020, 11:41 AM
Phil Mac inferred that government help could only be sought if all taxes were up to date and good. No idea myself if that's correct but it does give pause for thought.
I've been through the guidelines, and can't see any reference to it. That said, it would make sense.
Is Phil implying that TRFC aren't up to date with PAYE etc?
HoboHarry
07-04-2020, 11:54 AM
I've been through the guidelines, and can't see any reference to it. That said, it would make sense.
Is Phil implying that TRFC aren't up to date with PAYE etc?
He was inviting the MSM to ask specific questions of Sevco, here is the link
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2020/04/05/pesky-rules-and-ibrox-clubs/
Bostonhibby
07-04-2020, 11:57 AM
I've been through the guidelines, and can't see any reference to it. That said, it would make sense.
Is Phil implying that TRFC aren't up to date with PAYE etc?As has been said before, I just can't see them being so disloyal as to fail to diligently pay their taxes to their Majesty's Revenue & Customs.[emoji6]
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HoboHarry
07-04-2020, 12:01 PM
As has been said before, I just can't see them being so disloyal as to fail to diligently pay their taxes to their Majesty's Revenue & Customs.[emoji6]
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Your faith in your fellow man is admirable. As a reward, I'm willing to sell you some prime real estate on the Dava Moor at a really good price......
Bostonhibby
07-04-2020, 12:42 PM
Your faith in your fellow man is admirable. As a reward, I'm willing to sell you some prime real estate on the Dava Moor at a really good price......Wait a minute,are you telling me that the now defunct Glasgow rangers didn't pay their dues to, and therefore disrespected, their majesty that they constantly sing about?
I mean how the **** are they going to save the old girl if they're actually stealing her money?
If all that's true then the real estate deal's probably not for me.
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Dan Sarf
07-04-2020, 12:44 PM
Just saw this on Twitter - Sevco statement “Rangers intends to implement the Coronavirus job retention scheme for a number of employees.” Let’s all sing “Furlough, furlough, we will furlough Rangers.”
Oh yes!
JohnMcM
07-04-2020, 02:02 PM
Just saw this on Twitter - Sevco statement “Rangers intends to implement the Coronavirus job retention scheme for a number of employees.” Let’s all sing “Furlough, furlough, we will furlough Rangers.”
You can now take a gold star and move straight to the front of the class.
:top marks:not worth
Keith_M
07-04-2020, 02:22 PM
So, lets see if I've got this right:
The Rangers realise they can't afford to pay their players.
The players have either not been asked to reduce their salaries, or have said no.
The Rangers will be lumbering themselves with even larger debt than the massive amount they already have.
Is that about right?
Ozyhibby
07-04-2020, 02:53 PM
So, lets see if I've got this right:
The Rangers realise they can't afford to pay their players.
The players have either not been asked to reduce their salaries, or have said no.
The Rangers will be lumbering themselves with even larger debt than the massive amount they already have.
Is that about right?
Yip. A deferral is a debt.
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linlithgowhibbie
07-04-2020, 07:22 PM
Nice to look at the first item listed in their “Popular” section just below the article you quote.
Brilliant to read the seethe in that!!:thumbsup:
KingPat4
07-04-2020, 07:42 PM
It's all about an asterisk.
It's all about an asterisk.
I'm sure Celtic would agree to an asterisk if Rangers agreed to asterisk the EBT and imperfectly registered player years. Not to mention "Going for 1" instead of "Going for 55".
Deansy
07-04-2020, 09:29 PM
Just saw this on Twitter - Sevco statement “Rangers intends to implement the Coronavirus job retention scheme for a number of employees.” Let’s all sing “Furlough, furlough, we will furlough Rangers.”
Ha-ha-ha- Quality !
jacomo
09-04-2020, 11:57 AM
Hibs fans acting like savages and some of the media trying to pin the blame on innocent hun supporters. Some game at Hampden apparently a few years back.
Apparently the celebration march back to Ibrox was cancelled and the Huns all did walking away back to their beds instead.
Can’t be right surely? Not very staunch behaviour if true.
Phil MaGlass
09-04-2020, 03:20 PM
I'm sure Celtic would agree to an asterisk if Rangers agreed to asterisk the EBT and imperfectly registered player years. Not to mention "Going for 1" instead of "Going for 55".
They should be also doint that for all their won trophies, should say, won under the defunct namemof Glasgow Rangers
Rumble de Thump
09-04-2020, 04:15 PM
How many court cases do they have pending?
Jim44
09-04-2020, 04:22 PM
I'm sure Celtic would agree to an asterisk if Rangers agreed to asterisk the EBT and imperfectly registered player years. Not to mention "Going for 1" instead of "Going for 55".
What’s an asterisk between friends? :rolleyes:
HoboHarry
09-04-2020, 04:28 PM
What’s an asterisk between friends? :rolleyes:
Maybe an asterisk is perfect for Sevco. They certainly have the gall.......
Deansy
09-04-2020, 04:51 PM
Maybe an asterisk is perfect for Sevco. They certainly have the gall.......
Ooooo ............................
Hibby70
09-04-2020, 07:20 PM
Maybe an asterisk is perfect for Sevco. They certainly have the gall.......
Many of the Huns will be trying to get a fix tonight that's for sure.
jacomo
09-04-2020, 09:35 PM
I'm sure Celtic would agree to an asterisk if Rangers agreed to asterisk the EBT and imperfectly registered player years. Not to mention "Going for 1" instead of "Going for 55".
:agree:
Seems fair.
Fuzzywuzzy
10-04-2020, 11:16 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52242968
I genuinely cannot understand why any club would actively seek out the rangers to complain about bullying and coersion?!?
Bishop Hibee
10-04-2020, 11:44 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52242968
I genuinely cannot understand why any club would actively seek out the rangers to complain about bullying and coersion?!?
Self-deluded bams who see themselves as some sort of custodians of justice rather than the bigot apologists they are.
speedy_gonzales
10-04-2020, 12:16 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52242968
I genuinely cannot understand why any club would actively seek out the rangers to complain about bullying and coersion?!?
I genuinely cannot understand why a business would submit a proposal knowing it would not be competent. Surely you'd make sure any submission made was indeed competent?
From that link;
"We prepared this update in advance of the scheduled SPFL board meeting this morning, in the full anticipation that the SPFL board would rule our proposed resolution was not competent,"
Iain G
10-04-2020, 12:29 PM
I genuinely cannot understand why a business would submit a proposal knowing it would not be competent. Surely you'd make sure any submission made was indeed competent?
From that link;
"We prepared this update in advance of the scheduled SPFL board meeting this morning, in the full anticipation that the SPFL board would rule our proposed resolution was not competent,"
I think this "not competent" is a blanket catch all tag that goes with anything the the sevco management get up to...
04Sauzee
10-04-2020, 12:37 PM
Rangers told to wheesht
https://spfl.co.uk/news/board-update-on-rangers-resolution
ScottB
10-04-2020, 12:39 PM
I genuinely cannot understand why a business would submit a proposal knowing it would not be competent. Surely you'd make sure any submission made was indeed competent?
From that link;
"We prepared this update in advance of the scheduled SPFL board meeting this morning, in the full anticipation that the SPFL board would rule our proposed resolution was not competent,"
PR, they can say they tried to their fans, and that the evil authorities rejected their efforts. They’d have known it’d get rejected.
Ozyhibby
19-05-2020, 03:15 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200519/c554fefb006775176311b743e1fdb0c6.plist
Another issue quietly tidied up with a blind eye turned. Rod does Rangers a solid there.
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HoboHarry
19-05-2020, 03:24 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200519/c554fefb006775176311b743e1fdb0c6.plist
Another issue quietly tidied up with a blind eye turned. Rod does Rangers a solid there.
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I'm curious to know if they've done that with tacit approval from Celtic?
Ozyhibby
19-05-2020, 03:25 PM
I'm curious to know if they've done that with tacit approval from Celtic?
Celtic more than happy to see it go away. They have led their own fans on for years on this. They want a strong Rangers as much as Rangers fans.
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Keith_M
19-05-2020, 03:32 PM
I'm curious to know if they've done that with tacit approval from Celtic?
Maybe that was part of the deal to get them onside with naming Celtc as Champions.
I think it's about time there was an investigation into corruption in the SPFL and SFA, starting with this and then the Five Way Agreement.
I seem to remember one club offered to pay for an investigation...
Ozyhibby
19-05-2020, 03:37 PM
Maybe that was part of the deal to get them onside with naming Celtc as Champions.
I think it's about time there was an investigation into corruption in the SPFL and SFA, starting with this and then the Five Way Agreement.
I seem to remember one club offered to pay for an investigation...
I think releasing it today it is made to look like a deal for yesterday but it’s not. The reason this is happening is because it’s the SFA that is in the dock. They are the guilty party here who turned a blind eye to fraud. The whole thing stinks but what do we do? Nothing really. We just accept it. Hibs are as guilty here as any other club. There is still no transparency in the game and still no FFP rules in Scottish football.
Can’t really blame Rangers for working the system when we are happy to watch them do it.
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JimBHibees
19-05-2020, 03:51 PM
Celtic more than happy to see it go away. They have led their own fans on for years on this. They want a strong Rangers as much as Rangers fans.
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Absolutely agree interesting timing that announcement.
PeeKay
19-05-2020, 03:53 PM
Still amazes me that they got away with fielding players who were "improperly registered" and yet wee clubs make an honest mistake in the registration process and get hammered for it.
Fratelli
19-05-2020, 04:24 PM
Absolutely stinks to the high heaven - 2 years for the Panel to gather the evidence and convene a meeting!
Sounds like a carve-up - The Rangers said it should be heard by CAS and the SFA Judicial Panel agree that jurisdiction does sit with CAS but that after 'consideration of the implications of such a referral, including legal opinion...' the matter shouldn't be referred to CAS!
Interesting words used, especially 'implications!'
Now, to use the phrase shouted out by Sevco and their sympathisers in the media, 'if they they have nothing to fear, then refer the matter...'
No transparency whatsoever by the SFA but we shouldn't be surprised!
Ozyhibby
19-05-2020, 04:33 PM
Absolutely stinks to the high heaven - 2 years for the Panel to gather the evidence and convene a meeting!
Sounds like a carve-up - The Rangers said it should be heard by CAS and the SFA Judicial Panel agree that jurisdiction does sit with CAS but that after 'consideration of the implications of such a referral, including legal opinion...' the matter shouldn't be referred to CAS!
Interesting words used, especially 'implications!'
Now, to use the phrase shouted out by Sevco and their sympathisers in the media, 'if they they have nothing to fear, then refer the matter...'
No transparency whatsoever by the SFA but we shouldn't be surprised!
And Hibs will remain silent as usual. We play in a rigged league but the club seem unconcerned? Quite weird.
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Curried
19-05-2020, 04:43 PM
The BBC are of course remaining impartial:
"Rangers then entered administration in 2012 and eventually started season 2012-13 in the fourth tier of Scottish football."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52728938
Fratelli
19-05-2020, 05:16 PM
[QUOTE=Ozyhibby;6177674]And Hibs will remain silent as usual. We play in a rigged league but the club seem unconcerned? Quite weird.
As you said in a previous post, Celtic aren't bothered as they need any type of team playing out of Ibrox but they have mightily peeved off the 'Resolution 12' guys and Rod Petrie, and by association Hibs, knew exactly what was/is going on in Scottish Football...shameful!
JeMeSouviens
19-05-2020, 05:21 PM
And Hibs will remain silent as usual. We play in a rigged league but the club seem unconcerned? Quite weird.
As you said in a previous post, Celtic aren't bothered as they need any type of team playing out of Ibrox but they have mightily peeved off the 'Resolution 12' guys and Rod Petrie, and by association Hibs, knew exactly what was/is going on in Scottish Football...shameful!
Rod is up to his neck in the dreaded 5 way agreement, the attempt to land the new Rangers straight into Div 1 and the construction of the myth of Rangers mk2 being Rangers mk1. He may reckon he had good short term financial reasons for doing so, but from a governance pov, it stinks. No coincidence that Hibs were prominent in suppressing an enquiry.
Tomsk
19-05-2020, 06:00 PM
How does this work? You break someone else's rules. Then you get to choose whether or not you should refer your rule-break to an independent body for arbitration. Funnily enough, you choose not to. Case closed.
Sweet Jesus! HTF do they sleep at night?
Ozyhibby
19-05-2020, 06:33 PM
How does this work? You break someone else's rules. Then you get to choose whether or not you should refer your rule-break to an independent body for arbitration. Funnily enough, you choose not to. Case closed.
Sweet Jesus! HTF do they sleep at night?
Safe in the knowledge that they will get away with it.
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HoboHarry
19-05-2020, 06:37 PM
Safe in the knowledge that they will get away with it.
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Wonder why the law isn't involved if there is a stench of fraud about it?
Ozyhibby
19-05-2020, 06:43 PM
Wonder why the law isn't involved if there is a stench of fraud about it?
Would need the wronged parties to make a complaint. As it’s the other clubs and they seem happy with the arrangement then there won’t be any reason for them to get involved.
And the fans seem happy to just suck it up as well.
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jacomo
19-05-2020, 07:20 PM
I'm curious to know if they've done that with tacit approval from Celtic?
:agree:
Feels like a quid pro quo.
Dinnae bang on about 9IAR being tainted and we will make your issue with CAS go away.
jacomo
19-05-2020, 07:22 PM
Would need the wronged parties to make a complaint. As it’s the other clubs and they seem happy with the arrangement then there won’t be any reason for them to get involved.
And the fans seem happy to just suck it up as well.
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Nope. Criminal proceedings don’t need a complaint.
But fraud - ie criminality - is a high bar to prove and notoriously complex. There is enough grey area here for this to become very complex and very costly.
Spike Mandela
19-05-2020, 07:28 PM
I think releasing it today it is made to look like a deal for yesterday but it’s not. The reason this is happening is because it’s the SFA that is in the dock. They are the guilty party here who turned a blind eye to fraud. The whole thing stinks but what do we do? Nothing really. We just accept it. Hibs are as guilty here as any other club. There is still no transparency in the game and still no FFP rules in Scottish football.
Can’t really blame Rangers for working the system when we are happy to watch them do it.
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Rod Petrie is the master of ‘moving on’ when it comes to all things Rangers and the EBT scandal.
weecounty hibby
19-05-2020, 07:35 PM
Rod Petrie is the master of ‘moving on’ when it comes to all things Rangers and the EBT scandal.
Can't believe it's taken you this long to comment on the thread😆
Spike Mandela
19-05-2020, 07:41 PM
Can't believe it's taken you this long to comment on the thread😆
:lips seal:lips seal:lips seal:lips seal
Bostonhibby
19-05-2020, 07:42 PM
I think releasing it today it is made to look like a deal for yesterday but it’s not. The reason this is happening is because it’s the SFA that is in the dock. They are the guilty party here who turned a blind eye to fraud. The whole thing stinks but what do we do? Nothing really. We just accept it. Hibs are as guilty here as any other club. There is still no transparency in the game and still no FFP rules in Scottish football.
Can’t really blame Rangers for working the system when we are happy to watch them do it.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkA very good summary of the whole culture that was the enabler for the 5 way agreement and that has emboldened sevco and their acolytes since.
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Crazyhorse
19-05-2020, 08:19 PM
A very good summary of the whole culture that was the enabler for the 5 way agreement and that has emboldened sevco and their acolytes since.
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Yep. Years of cheating covered up, keep the titles we’ll say no more about it.
HoboHarry
21-05-2020, 05:57 PM
Not sure if there are problems for Sevco here or not, but this at least has the potential to get interesting.
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2020/05/21/albion-car-park-re-development/
Billy Whizz
21-05-2020, 06:44 PM
Not sure if there are problems for Sevco here or not, but this at least has the potential to get interesting.
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2020/05/21/albion-car-park-re-development/
Who’s want to live opposite that stadium
JeMeSouviens
21-05-2020, 06:49 PM
Who’s want to live opposite that stadium
These guys have just turned up for a viewing.
https://gamespot1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_landscape/313/3136061/3617065-orcs.jpg
HoboHarry
21-05-2020, 06:59 PM
These guys have just turned up for a viewing.
https://gamespot1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_landscape/313/3136061/3617065-orcs.jpg
That's the Sevco backroom staff ya daftie......
Hibs4185
25-05-2020, 01:06 PM
See rangers have either sold or are trying to get planning for their car park,
https://merchanthomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/AHI_Public_Consultation_Information.pdf
160 flats at approx £50,000 a plot might generate £8 million for them.
Wonder if this is what they are having to do to survive?
Billy Whizz
25-05-2020, 01:20 PM
See rangers have either sold or are trying to get planning for their car park,
https://merchanthomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/AHI_Public_Consultation_Information.pdf
160 flats at approx £50,000 a plot might generate £8 million for them.
Wonder if this is what they are having to do to survive?
Do they still own the Car Park?
Hibs4185
25-05-2020, 01:22 PM
Do they still own the Car Park?
I seem to recall that they used it as security for a loan from close brothers. Perhaps they’ve defaulted and close brothers have sold it to a developer.
I’m sure it will all come out eventually.
JeMeSouviens
25-05-2020, 01:23 PM
Do they still own the Car Park?
Was it not security to the loan they took from Close Brothers? Maybe they're having trouble with the repayments?
Edit: https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/16030581.security-over-rangers-property-is-lodged-to-secure-3-million-funding/
Jim44
25-05-2020, 01:33 PM
See rangers have either sold or are trying to get planning for their car park,
https://merchanthomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/AHI_Public_Consultation_Information.pdf
160 flats at approx £50,000 a plot might generate £8 million for them.
Wonder if this is what they are having to do to survive?
How can they pay £5m for a player in the present climate, if they have cash problems?
Stonewall
26-05-2020, 07:26 AM
How can they pay £5m for a player in the present climate, if they have cash problems?
They won’t.
jacomo
26-05-2020, 08:28 AM
See rangers have either sold or are trying to get planning for their car park,
https://merchanthomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/AHI_Public_Consultation_Information.pdf
160 flats at approx £50,000 a plot might generate £8 million for them.
Wonder if this is what they are having to do to survive?
Where will they park the Bigot Buses that convene on Ibrox from across Scotland and Norn Iron now?
Lendo
26-05-2020, 08:41 AM
How can they pay £5m for a player in the present climate, if they have cash problems?
I had heard (and it might be bull****) that it is £5m split over 10 years.
Antifa Hibs
26-05-2020, 08:56 AM
I had heard (and it might be bull****) that it is £5m split over 10 years.
They've had a decent European run and their Castore deal is worth upto £5m so that kinda covers the transfer fee.
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that was their terms though. Did they not offer Hearts something as ridiculous like that for the Jamie Walker transfer fee? Less than a million quid but over 5 seasons or something.
Fratelli
26-05-2020, 03:00 PM
They've had a decent European run and their Castore deal is worth upto £5m so that kinda covers the transfer fee.
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that was their terms though. Did they not offer Hearts something as ridiculous like that for the Jamie Walker transfer fee? Less than a million quid but over 5 seasons or something.
Key words in the Castore deal is ‘worth £25m’ but this will be based on the absolute limit of shirt sales and assumes that Mike Ashley won’t indulge in his favourite pastime of rogering Sevco in all the Courts of the land!
I’m still very suspicious of this deal bearing in mind they announced a £7.5m fund raising in February to move into team sports, including football.
Also, let’s see if they open 10 Sevco stores across the UK and internationally, as alleged.
Finally, Sevco are still waiting to hear what damages they have to pay Sports Direct for reneging on the ‘matching rights’ that they offered to Hummel/Elite...
HoboHarry
26-05-2020, 03:25 PM
Key words in the Castore deal is ‘worth £25m’ but this will be based on the absolute limit of shirt sales and assumes that Mike Ashley won’t indulge in his favourite pastime of rogering Sevco in all the Courts of the land!
I’m still very suspicious of this deal bearing in mind they announced a £7.5m fund raising in February to move into team sports, including football.
Also, let’s see if they open 10 Sevco stores across the UK and internationally, as alleged.
Finally, Sevco are still waiting to hear what damages they have to pay Sports Direct for reneging on the ‘matching rights’ that they offered to Hummel/Elite...
I'm just as suspicious as you are - has MA walked away from his matching rights agreement having won the court case? I'm struggling to believe he couldn't match Castore's deal? All seems a bit dubious to me......
Billy Whizz
26-05-2020, 03:27 PM
I'm just as suspicious as you are - has MA walked away from his matching rights agreement having won the court case? I'm struggling to believe he couldn't match Castore's deal? All seems a bit dubious to me......
A rangers fan I know said Park put a lot of money in recently. Would that not show on their accounts at Company’s house
He also said they settled out of court with Ashley, must admit I haven’t seen anything showing this
HoboHarry
26-05-2020, 03:29 PM
A rangers fan I know said Park put a lot of money in recently. Would that not show on their accounts at Company’s house
He also said they settled out of court with Ashley, must admit I haven’t seen anything showing this
I'm pretty sure MA won in court and all that is awaiting is for the size of the award.
Ozyhibby
26-05-2020, 03:31 PM
A rangers fan I know said Park put a lot of money in recently. Would that not show on their accounts at Company’s house
He also said they settled out of court with Ashley, must admit I haven’t seen anything showing this
They haven’t produced accounts for 16 months now, so difficult to know what the situation is. Makes you wonder how the SFA put through their recent UEFA application but they have form for looking the other way on these things and we have form for looking the other way when it happens.
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ballengeich
26-05-2020, 04:09 PM
They haven’t produced accounts for 16 months now, so difficult to know what the situation is. Makes you wonder how the SFA put through their recent UEFA application but they have form for looking the other way on these things and we have form for looking the other way when it happens.
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Didn't they produce their accounts up to May 19 back in the autumn? That contained the warning that they needed £10m to complete the season. Since then I've read that they got a £5m loan from King, the post Christmas Europa league games will have been worth £2-£3m and they've agreed wage deferals. With early season ticket payments arriving they've probably a bit of cash at present.
However, unless Park or some other wealthy fan is prepared to subsidise them for the coming twelve months I reckon the business strategy is heavily dependent on getting a big fee for Morelos.
HoboHarry
26-05-2020, 04:12 PM
Didn't they produce their accounts up to May 19 back in the autumn? That contained the warning that they needed £10m to complete the season. Since then I've read that they got a £5m loan from King, the post Christmas Europa league games will have been worth £2-£3m and they've agreed wage deferals. With early season ticket payments arriving they've probably a bit of cash at present.
However, unless Park or some other wealthy fan is prepared to subsidise them for the coming twelve months I reckon the business strategy is heavily dependent on getting a big fee for Morelos.
Were you laughing as you typed that?
ballengeich
26-05-2020, 04:18 PM
Were you laughing as you typed that?
More like scratching my head trying to make sense of their strategy. Either the directors keep piling millions in or they have to start making the kind of money on transfers that Celtic have achieved in recent years. I suppose they could try cutting costs to match income - eh naw.
HoboHarry
26-05-2020, 04:39 PM
More like scratching my head trying to make sense of their strategy. Either the directors keep piling millions in or they have to start making the kind of money on transfers that Celtic have achieved in recent years. I suppose they could try cutting costs to match income - eh naw.
I think that the Park cash cow may be on sabbitical. I imagine this crisis has done a number on his coach business profit column.....
Keith_M
26-05-2020, 05:53 PM
I'd imagine The Rangers have already brought in a few million in Season Ticket money (I'm not certain but wasn't it about £12m last year?).
I expect they'll do what Hearts do and use it to see out the current season and fund summer transfers... then plead for cash again next season when it's all run out.
Greenworld
26-05-2020, 06:19 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5636897/hearts-spfl-reconstruction-proposal-in-full/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
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Greenworld
26-05-2020, 06:20 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5636897/hearts-spfl-reconstruction-proposal-in-full/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
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HoboHarry
03-06-2020, 08:29 PM
I see Trabzonspor have been banned now for breaching the FFP rules. How are Sevco getting away with it? Surely they have to be signed up to these rules for playing in Europe?
04Sauzee
06-06-2020, 08:02 AM
The Rangers launching all next seasons strips on the 12th of July! Horrible club
Keith_M
06-06-2020, 08:22 AM
See rangers have either sold or are trying to get planning for their car park,
https://merchanthomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/AHI_Public_Consultation_Information.pdf
160 flats at approx £50,000 a plot might generate £8 million for them.
Wonder if this is what they are having to do to survive?
According to The Herald, they're going to use the money to finance an upgrade to Edmiston House (currently empty) into a Museum and Conference Centre.
Doesn't sound as drastically scary as Phil MaGobin was inferring.
04Sauzee
06-06-2020, 01:00 PM
The Rangers launching all next seasons strips on the 12th of July! Horrible club
Scrub that it's a Parody account 😂 when I seen the Rangers cap at an introductory price of £16.90 I clicked 🤣
HoboHarry
06-06-2020, 02:45 PM
According to The Herald, they're going to use the money to finance an upgrade to Edmiston House (currently empty) into a Museum and Conference Centre.
Doesn't sound as drastically scary as Phil MaGobin was inferring.
I'll take some convincing that they are going to invest that some of money into an empty building when MA could very well be awarded more in the current court case. I'm more persuaded that Close have asked for their money back. Maybe even Dave King for that matter.
Keith_M
06-06-2020, 04:12 PM
I'll take some convincing that they are going to invest that some of money into an empty building when MA could very well be awarded more in the current court case. I'm more persuaded that Close have asked for their money back. Maybe even Dave King for that matter.
The article is here (https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/18494342.rangers-sell-off-half-albion-car-park---turn-edmiston-house-museum-conference-centre-concert-venue/), so you can judge for yourself.
It's an interview with Stewart Robertson...
' "There is potential development in the Albion Car Park," said Robertson. "We are looking at selling half of the car park and the funds from that will go towards the building of Edmiston House, of New Edmiston House" '
TBF, what he says in the article makes sense from a financial perspective but he doesn't half ramble on, and keeps repeating himself. He seems to talk a bit like Trump.
CropleyWasGod
06-06-2020, 04:17 PM
I'll take some convincing that they are going to invest that some of money into an empty building when MA could very well be awarded more in the current court case. I'm more persuaded that Close have asked for their money back. Maybe even Dave King for that matter.
They can't sell the car park without giving Close Brothers their money back. In fact, they probably couldn't even put it on the market without CB's consent.
jacomo
06-06-2020, 04:21 PM
More like scratching my head trying to make sense of their strategy. Either the directors keep piling millions in or they have to start making the kind of money on transfers that Celtic have achieved in recent years. I suppose they could try cutting costs to match income - eh naw.
The pressure to spend big will be even bigger this summer, even though Celtc have an asterisk and it was never 8iar anyhow because league titles without the Rangers in the division apparently don’t count an that.
Celtc look strong and Lennon has a pretty settled squad. Sevco know they aren’t good enough to win the title next season as it stands. What gives?
Keith_M
06-06-2020, 04:26 PM
They can't sell the car park without giving Close Brothers their money back. In fact, they probably couldn't even put it on the market without CB's consent.
Maybe they have their consent?
:dunno:
How much do they owe CB?
HoboHarry
06-06-2020, 05:17 PM
They can't sell the car park without giving Close Brothers their money back. In fact, they probably couldn't even put it on the market without CB's consent.
I didn't word my post very well but that's exactly what I was getting at. Any concept that they are investing 8m in an empty building is straight from the newspaper presses in Narnia.
Seveno
06-06-2020, 05:23 PM
According to The Herald, they're going to use the money to finance an upgrade to Edmiston House (currently empty) into a Museum and Conference Centre.
Doesn't sound as drastically scary as Phil MaGobin was inferring.
Why would such a new club want a museum?
Hibs4185
06-06-2020, 05:28 PM
Why would such a new club want a museum?
Petrofac cup winners is a big deal.
Keith_M
06-06-2020, 06:19 PM
Why would such a new club want a museum?
I think it's the history of Govan.
Rab C Nesbit features quite highly.
CropleyWasGod
06-06-2020, 06:49 PM
I didn't word my post very well but that's exactly what I was getting at. Any concept that they are investing 8m in an empty building is straight from the newspaper presses in Narnia.
👍 It's probably a smart move for them, and I'm not sure why it wasn't done before. Make some cash, pay off some debts, and have enough left for a new whistle and flute.
Ozyhibby
06-06-2020, 08:11 PM
The pressure to spend big will be even bigger this summer, even though Celtc have an asterisk and it was never 8iar anyhow because league titles without the Rangers in the division apparently don’t count an that.
Celtc look strong and Lennon has a pretty settled squad. Sevco know they aren’t good enough to win the title next season as it stands. What gives?
Eh?
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Ozyhibby
01-07-2020, 06:10 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5763259/sports-direct-rangers-castore-exclusive-august/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Is Castore a front for Mike Ashley? [emoji23]
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Billy Whizz
01-07-2020, 06:19 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5763259/sports-direct-rangers-castore-exclusive-august/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Is Castore a front for Mike Ashley? [emoji23]
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Looks like another blinder by Mike
Wonder how much per strip he’s making, via The Rangers
Haymaker
01-07-2020, 06:25 PM
Please say it's true :faf:
HoboHarry
01-07-2020, 06:35 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5763259/sports-direct-rangers-castore-exclusive-august/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Is Castore a front for Mike Ashley? [emoji23]
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Is it possible that this was a demand made by MA to prevent further legal action against Castore/Sevco?
Hibs07p
05-07-2020, 04:29 PM
Just to add to the Castore / Mike Ashley conspiracy.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5776205/rangers-mike-ashley-house-of-fraser-castore/
STRIP OFF Rangers kit only available for pre-order via Mike Ashley’s House of Fraser with Castore to restock ‘in coming days’
Ryan McDonald
5 Jul 2020, 14:45
RANGERS fans desperate to pre-order their team's new home kit can currently only do so through Mike Ashley's House of Fraser.
But the Ibrox club have assured anxious supporters Castore will restock more shirts "in the coming days".
The new Rangers kit was available for pre-order on the Castore website before the club's own platform on Wednesday
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The new Rangers kit was available for pre-order on the Castore website before the club's own platform on Wednesday
Gers unveiled their stylish new 2020/21 strip on Wednesday as they embarked on a new five-year partnership with Castore following the end of their Hummel deal.
Pre-orders were made available directly through Rangers and Castore's website and the initial batch of 50,000 shirts sold out within the first 36 hours.
Now though, the jersey has vanished from both sites - with House of Fraser currently the only shop offering the pre-sale online.
The description states: "Stock date: 01 August 2020. Pre-Order this item today and receive your order shortly after the date shown. Please note your entire order will be held until all items are available."
Mike Ashley's House of Fraser are currently the only shop offering pre-orders on the new kit after Castore sold out
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Mike Ashley's House of Fraser are currently the only shop offering pre-orders on the new kit after Castore sold out
However, a Rangers spokesperson has told SunSport that Castore will make more shirts available this week after the initial 50,000 units were incredibly snapped up in less than two days.
They said: "The first batch of 50,000 home shirts that were made available via Castore.com, the entire batch were pre-ordered in just over 24 hours.
Go on big Mike.
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