Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[Steve-O]

My personal message to Hearts FC :aok:

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-just-die-10.png

[CropleyWasGod]

Which sums up the SPL in a sentence. A club gets in **** for not paying their PAYE so the SPL introduces rules to ensure clubs pay their PAYE rather than rules to ensure that they pay all their tax.

To be fair, that sums up any legal system.

Rules are put in place. People find ways to circumvent them. So more rules are added. People find ways etc etc... and so it goes on.

[the_ginger_hibee]

Poor old Vlad.

http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/40166/the-international-search-for-ex-head-of-ukio-bankas-may-be-announced-201340166/


It is said that the controversial banker is being protected in Moscow by the people of Ramzan Kadyrov – the president of the Republic of Chechnya. The bodyguard group is said to belong to another contentious businessman of Chechen origin, Ruslan Baisarov, who used to have a certain tie with Lithuania in the past, as he was married (now divorced) to the singer Kristina Orbakaitė

So.....as Hearts are Vlad's only real income, and ST money is Hearts only real income, one could factually say the Hearts fans are directly funding the protection of an international criminal suspected of large financial frauds throughout Europe?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ71JmmhGduLMeheZJdK19AH2VCbnY8J uBApUNcVEa29vJLdsDTKQ

[HFC 0-7]

To be fair, that sums up any legal system.

Rules are put in place. People find ways to circumvent them. So more rules are added. People find ways etc etc... and so it goes on.

How about a rule that states any club failing to pay bills, debts or obligations are subject to points deductions and signing embaro?

we will be here for years making up rules, if we limit it to each type of bill and obligation!

[Off the bar]

So.....as Hearts are Vlad's only real income, and ST money is Hearts only real income, one could factually say the Hearts fans are directly funding the protection of an international criminal suspected of large financial frauds throughout Europe?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ71JmmhGduLMeheZJdK19AH2VCbnY8J uBApUNcVEa29vJLdsDTKQ

nice

[Hermit Crab]

Where is it publicised that Wilson transfer is getting investigated?

[Kato]

With Vlad on the run there is no way they will sort out the Ukio or Ubig admin quickly. When Hearts go under it could be years before a new club could be set up, if at all. This won't be like Sevco at all.

If we could get Tom Baker or some lovey type to intone that in a serious/portentious "they're doomed" voice its something I'd find "pleasing".

[Gus Fring]

I think that SPL clubs now have to report tax breaches within 3 days, and that period is now up. The yaks can hardly not report it, as it's already in the public domain. If it all works to plan there will be a transfer embargo within a few days.

I'll try and find out if this has been done, I see no reason that it wouldn't have been.


It's ridiculous that they can be allowed to stumble along from crisis to crisis, bringing disrepute on the SPL and in danger of putting next season into chaos. We can only hope that they will be hit with every sanction available to the authorities (both sporting and legal) when the **** hits the fan. I think the SPL will think that they must be seen to be doing every thing above board but when it throws the plans of the other clubs into disarray it does nobody any favours. Surely they must be able to ask hertz to put a viable plan in front of them or tell them to get tae ****.

Sadly that's the way the world works, it isn't always possible to prevent 1 party causing problems for other parties so you have to wait until they break the rules. The SPL has a tough job of trying to keep the teams from taking the mick whilst also allowing them the breathing space to try and survive. The SPL will never rule the league with an iron fist and anyone expecting them to do so will be disappointed.

[Part/Time Supporter]

Which sums up the SPL in a sentence. A club gets in **** for not paying their PAYE so the SPL introduces rules to ensure clubs pay their PAYE rather than rules to ensure that they pay all their tax.

1. I think it's fair to assume that if a club is not paying VAT they will also be struggling to pay PAYE

2. The rules relate to non-payment of players. PAYE relates to this as it is withheld from gross wages to cover the players' tax liabilities. VAT doesn't relate to non-payment of players.

In respect to Danny Wilson, I suspect that if Hearts submit the registration documents, the authorities will tell them to hold the bus until they can prove that they can pay the next month's wages and PAYE.

[Off the bar]

Where is it publicised that Wilson transfer is getting investigated?

daily ******, link further back on this thread

[Geo_1875]

Sadly that's the way the world works, it isn't always possible to prevent 1 party causing problems for other parties so you have to wait until they break the rules. The SPL has a tough job of trying to keep the teams from taking the mick whilst also allowing them the breathing space to try and survive. The SPL will never rule the league with an iron fist and anyone expecting them to do so will be disappointed.

This is why the financial fair play rules must be imposed as soon as possible. Teams that live close to the edge (or over it) are basically thumbing their noses at the rest. As we are forever being told that the SPL is the clubs we are basically going out of our way to aid and assist our opponents in their financial impropriety. How can we live with ourselves if they continue ripping of the fans and their children, not to mention the frail and elderly who won't get the medical care they require due to them not paying their due taxes.

[Treadstone]

So.....as Hearts are Vlad's only real income, and ST money is Hearts only real income, one could factually say the Hearts fans are directly funding the protection of an international criminal suspected of large financial frauds throughout Europe?

Vlad has been spotted trying to buy a canoe!

[Hermit Crab]

daily ******, link further back on this thread

A trusted newspaper then ;)

[Oscar T Grouch]

You know what amazes me? I have pretty much read all 554 pages of this thread, it has been informative and well informed, insightful and deliberated. It has been wrong at times, but that was usually due to misinformation from the MSM. But through the whole thread we have taken more interest in that club than their own supporters, even now, in their death throws have taken about their own club.

As a Hibee I cannot imagine doing this, if this ever happened to Hibs (which with the way we are run probably wouldn't have happened to us) I know that this would have been sorted long ago, we would never have let it get to this stage, we would have asked questions, pushed for answers and harried the board until all our questions were answered. Every year we have a long thread about the state of our accounts, which are published in good time and in good order, we debate the good and bad of keeping the club "within it's means", yeah some of us want to spend more on the footballing side, some are in favour of keep a tight budget, but we all care about the financial side of the football club. Maybe we are lucky, had we not gone through the early 90s we may have been less sensitive to issues like this?

Looking a brokeback at the moment, you would never guess that their club is in such a state, maybe it is ostrich syndrome :ostrich: I really don't know but surely if your football club is in the state theirs is in you would care more? I know jambo's, most ******s, but a few who are genuine football men, who love their club passionately but even they fail to see that the last few years have been the death by a 1000 cuts for their team, they prefer to see 1-5, 1902, 22 in a row. I really do not get it. Maybe a few of the yam lurkers would like to come on this thread and enlighten me:confused: I doubt very much that will happen though.

[Geo_1875]

Vlad has been spotted trying to buy a canoe!

I hope he buys a paddle as well or he won't get far down ****-creek.

[poolman]

Poor old Vlad.

http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/40166/the-international-search-for-ex-head-of-ukio-bankas-may-be-announced-201340166/



Un-bloody-believable

A Yam roaster's post


if mr romanov needs a place to hide, i will help him.

please god let him be ok. this witch hunt is a disgrace


:faf:

[Hermit Crab]

Un-bloody-believable

A Yam roaster's post


if mr romanov needs a place to hide, i will help him.

please god let him be ok. this witch hunt is a disgrace


:faf:


Yes. I think this may be a whoosh moment on your behalf. :D

[MB62]

I think this is all a Non story again. It was only a few weeks ago that it was reported Wonga were to invest a 07 figure sum in to the Yams for continued sponsorship on the jerseys.

#allisbarry folks, it's just another hobbo conspiracy :greengrin

[SurferRosa]

Un-bloody-believable

A Yam roaster's post


if mr romanov needs a place to hide, i will help him.

please god let him be ok. this witch hunt is a disgrace


:faf:

Doesn`t that just sum them up.

Yet they question why they get no sympathy for their situation from other supporters...

[Caversham Green]

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000083&propertyType=document#P62_4516

As a business with turnover >£2.3M, Hearts will be paying VAT under payments on account.



My understanding from that is that their VAT payment will be due by each month end (31 May in this case). HMRC give businesses who are not in the POA scheme seven days grace to pay VAT* - they seem to have given Hearts that advantage in this case as well. I suspect Hearts will have phoned up HMRC last Friday (31st) to tell them they wouldn't get the money (hence the "we are in dialogue with HMRC" spin yesterday) and HMRC have told them "okay, but if we don't get the money next week we will take court action" (ie if they don't pay before the weekend HMRC will file papers on Monday).

*This is a legacy of shifting from submitting VAT returns on paper and paying by cheque to submitting returns online and paying electronically.

POA is compulsory for businesses with an annual VAT liability of over £2.3m rather than turnover, which equates to a turnover of £11.5m with no input tax so the Yams won't be in the scheme.

That comes as a relief to me as several of my clients have turnovers of more than £2.3m but none are on POA. I need to change my trousers now though.

[heretoday]

I imagine they'll get away with it again. They always seem to. There must be plenty Jam Tarts in the tax authorities.

[CropleyWasGod]

POA is compulsory for businesses with an annual VAT liability of over £2.3m rather than turnover, which equates to a turnover of £11.5m with no input tax so the Yams won't be in the scheme.

That comes as a relief to me as several of my clients have turnovers of more than £2.3m but none are on POA. I need to change my trousers now though.

They might be voluntarily, though. I am.

And, ffs, your trousers need binning. :greengrin

[EdinMike]

I saw this on that silly Book Face of mine..

"Don't worry everyone, I'm gonna hide Vlad under my bed HHGH"

:tsk tsk:

[Part/Time Supporter]

POA is compulsory for businesses with an annual VAT liability of over £2.3m rather than turnover, which equates to a turnover of £11.5m with no input tax so the Yams won't be in the scheme.

That comes as a relief to me as several of my clients have turnovers of more than £2.3m but none are on POA. I need to change my trousers now though.

They may have entered the VAT payments on account scheme in the past (their turnover was about £10M in one year IIRC) and not fallen back out.

[Barman Stanton]

Hilarious, they can't seem to get their heads around the fact that the 5-1 game is directly related to this mess their in.

They are nuts. I actually read someone on kb say 5-1 came at a time when they were cutting costs. Totally deluded.

[Caversham Green]

They may have entered the VAT payments on account scheme in the past (their turnover was about £10M in one year IIRC) and not fallen back out.

It's certainly a possibility, or they could have registered voluntarily as CWG says and it would explain the timing of their debt. I'm a bit dubious that all reports seem to be referring to it as PAYE though - despite STV talking about Rangers paying VAT on wages.

[sidneyhibbie]

they will be closed down by the end of this month they have no money left and no income stream, all the clowns who have already wasted their money on season tickts will be fleeced and no one in their right mind would buy one with all this going on.

[chrisski33]

Im sick of sick of hearing about them about time they were shutdown! but i reckon they will manage to pay this tax demand and the sage will continue

[MountcastleHibs]

Facebook and Twitter awash with yams claiming Romanov is a genius. Incredible. You couldn't make it up! I can't believe they can't see what the rest of Scottish football can.

[Iain G]

no one in their right mind would buy one with all this going on.

So they should sell another 2 or 3000 this week then :greengrin

[GraniteCityHibs]

KICKBACK....A STRANGE STRANGE PLACE!!!


Posted Yesterday, 21:42
(http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=3625160)hughesie27, on 04 June 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:
Really? I find that difficult to understand that a Rape Victim, after going through such trauma, would accept a payout and see the predator walk free. Unless of course she was making it up, which by the way I am not suggesting is the case here at all.
How much does it cost to silence a Rape victim?

--



I doubt it was a case of pinning her down and raping her.
But seems she was too drunk to consent and in that case is rape, chuck some daft bird enough money and you can convince her to shut up.

But if you'd rather have that at the club then fair enough.


Just looked it up

''Charges were dropped but she was awarded £11'000 after compensation after the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority decided she had been raped.''

Hmm..

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All of that from a thread called 'Reality check' about how they don't want the club signing anyone in their current situation.

Less than 20 posts later it's the above....Place is full of weirdos!

[JeMeSouviens]

This is the note from their accounts about paying up the £1.5M settlement to HMRC:


"The amount due is payable in monthly installments from May 2013 to April 2015 and interest of £85,000 will be added to the outstanding balance over the three year period of repayment. Of the total of £1,576,000, £242,000 is due within one year and £1,335,000 greater than one year at the balance sheet date."

The balance sheet date was 30th June 2012. This suggests that May was the first month they had to find anything but since £242K was due by the end of June, the first 2 payments might've been abnormally large (anyone have previous experience of HMRC payment schedules?) They did previously trumpet that they had paid May's installment but perhaps June's is the payment they've just missed?

[Part/Time Supporter]

This is the note from their accounts about paying up the £1.5M settlement to HMRC:



The balance sheet date was 30th June 2012. This suggests that May was the first month they had to find anything but since £242K was due by the end of June, the first 2 payments might've been abnormally large (anyone have previous experience of HMRC payment schedules?) They did previously trumpet that they had paid May's installment but perhaps June's is the payment they've just missed?

HMRC wouldn't have given them seven days' grace if it related to the tax case.

[clerriehibs]

No attempt at any analysis in that scotsman article. It justs pumps out exacyly what homfc want them to print, ie "give us your money".

Lazy, shoddy, embarrassing.

[Technofob]

They're saying that the problem is that they haven't received all the ST money due to people paying in installments. This is unusual given that the finance company would ordinarily pay the club the full amount for each ticket sold then in turn recover the money (hence finance charges).

Either Hearts are telling porkies (again) or the finace company, worried that Hearts are going to go tits up (and people stop paying their installments), have shifted the goalposts.

Richard Gordon said on Sportsound that after a thorough investigation by Blobbo (I know :faf:) 80% of the seasons were paid for with credit cards. I don't know the ins and outs of how the credit card companies forward the money but is this a 60/90 day settlement period?

[21.05.2016]

You know what amazes me? I have pretty much read all 554 pages of this thread, it has been informative and well informed, insightful and deliberated. It has been wrong at times, but that was usually due to misinformation from the MSM. But through the whole thread we have taken more interest in that club than their own supporters, even now, in their death throws have taken about their own club.

As a Hibee I cannot imagine doing this, if this ever happened to Hibs (which with the way we are run probably wouldn't have happened to us) I know that this would have been sorted long ago, we would never have let it get to this stage, we would have asked questions, pushed for answers and harried the board until all our questions were answered. Every year we have a long thread about the state of our accounts, which are published in good time and in good order, we debate the good and bad of keeping the club "within it's means", yeah some of us want to spend more on the footballing side, some are in favour of keep a tight budget, but we all care about the financial side of the football club. Maybe we are lucky, had we not gone through the early 90s we may have been less sensitive to issues like this?

Looking a brokeback at the moment, you would never guess that their club is in such a state, maybe it is ostrich syndrome :ostrich: I really don't know but surely if your football club is in the state theirs is in you would care more? I know jambo's, most ******s, but a few who are genuine football men, who love their club passionately but even they fail to see that the last few years have been the death by a 1000 cuts for their team, they prefer to see 1-5, 1902, 22 in a row. I really do not get it. Maybe a few of the yam lurkers would like to come on this thread and enlighten me:confused: I doubt very much that will happen though.

I've been amazed by this aswell. Whenever you ask a jambo about their current awful state all you get back is "oh but but 5-1, 1902, use are a wee team" etc etc. This obsession with us has blindsighted them from their own troubles and has made them live in this ridiculous fanatsy world.

[Off the bar]

Richard Gordon said on Sportsound that after a thorough investigation by Blobbo (I know :faf:) 80% of the seasons were paid for with credit cards. I don't know the ins and outs of how the credit card companies forward the money but is this a 60/90 day settlement period?

I've got a chip and pin card machine for my business and credit card transactions come through in 3 working days, not sure what t&cs hahahahearts will have but no way will it take 60/90 days to credit, so if 80% of the tickets where paid for by card they've had the money and *****ed it already. fuds.

[Green Man]

I've got a chip and pin card machine for my business and credit card transactions come through in 3 working days, not sure what t&cs hahahahearts will have but no way will it take 60/90 days to credit, so if 80% of the tickets where paid for by card they've had the money and *****ed it already. fuds.

Remember FlyGlobespan? They went bust because the company who processed their card payments was holding onto the funds for much longer than they should have. Would be a shame if the same thing happened to Hearts :greengrin

[21.05.2016]

Facebook and Twitter awash with yams claiming Romanov is a genius. Incredible. You couldn't make it up! I can't believe they can't see what the rest of Scottish football can.

I find it remarkable that the yams still hail Vlad as some kind of God. If someone had done to my club what he has done to theirs I would want them bloody hung! Yes he bought them 2 scottish cups but the club are crippled and facing extinction, was 2 cups really worth it?!

He has lied to the mutants for years and all they have done is swallow his every word regardless of how insane and ridiculous his lies are. Wheres the massive multi-plex stadium he promised? or the world cup stars? or the SPL title? or the Champions league title?

sad thing is that they all still live in the fantasy world he created!

they never fail to amaze me with their delusion!

[brog]

I think that SPL clubs now have to report tax breaches within 3 days, and that period is now up. The yaks can hardly not report it, as it's already in the public domain. If it all works to plan there will be a transfer embargo within a few days.


My reading of rule A6.26 is it applies to PAYE & NI only. In addition they have 28 days from it becoming overdue to settle the a/c.
However, it has been suggested on here that it may be a partial default on the monthly agreed payments with HMRC for the £1.6mm. In that case Yams would be subject to sanction immediately by SPL. I doubt this is case but we can hope!!

[NOLA]

Poor old Vlad.

http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/40166/the-international-search-for-ex-head-of-ukio-bankas-may-be-announced-201340166/

Cracking read, hiding in moscow protected by chechen bodyguards, send in Bond!

[Treadstone]

No attempt at any analysis in that scotsman article. It justs pumps out exacyly what homfc want them to print, ie "give us your money".

Lazy, shoddy, embarrassing.

It read like a yam advertisement/appeal.

:lolyam:

[Kato]

I find it remarkable that the yams still hail Vlad as some kind of God. If someone had done to my club what he has done to theirs I would want them bloody hung! Yes he bought them 2 scottish cups but the club are crippled and facing extinction, was 2 cups really worth it?!

He has lied to the mutants for years and all they have done is swallow his every word regardless of how insane and ridiculous his lies are. Wheres the massive multi-plex stadium he promised? or the world cup stars? or the SPL title? or the Champions league title?

sad thing is that they all still live in the fantasy world he created!

they never fail to amaze me with their delusion!

A few guys stated at the start of Vlad's tenure that his PR had similarities to how Facism works. The anti-outsider (us) rhetoric, the portrayal of himself as an invicible, strong leader and the promises of "Jam tomorrow". It is in fact how facism works and is all a big con, a very powerful con though.

[Spike Mandela]

SPL investigating Wilson transfer according to the Daily ****** http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/spl-investigating-hearts-move-danny-1932465

An SPL investigation, Wow, Fedetovas will be quaking in his books.:rolleyes:

[Liberal Hibby]

A few guys stated at the start of Vlad's tenure that his PR had similarities to how Facism works. The anti-outsider (us) rhetoric, the portrayal of himself as an invicible, strong leader and the promises of "Jam tomorrow". It is in fact how facism works and is all a big con, a very powerful con though.

Vlad learnt all his propaganda skills from the Soviet era KGB - he's had them hook, line and sinker ever since.

And while I don't think we would have been quite so supine - I'd bet if a rich foreigner came along promising champions league football and the Scottish cup there would be plenty of Hibs fans willing to give him the benefit of the doubt - you only have to look at the regular calls to 'break the bank' for (fill in the blank) to see how football fans crave success.

[IWasThere2016]

Un-bloody-believable

A Yam roaster's post


if mr romanov needs a place to hide, i will help him.

please god let him be ok. this witch hunt is a disgrace


:faf:

That HAS to be a Hibby on the take...

[The Green Goblin]

Facebook and Twitter awash with yams claiming Romanov is a genius. Incredible. You couldn't make it up! I can't believe they can't see what the rest of Scottish football can.

I sometimes think its just us that sees it. All the journos are afraid to tell it as it is or they miss the point entirely. Have any of them come out and criticised the yam hordes for their loyalty to Romanov or failure to protect their own club? Spineless

[The Green Goblin]

Richard Gordon said on Sportsound that after a thorough investigation by Blobbo (I know :faf:) 80% of the seasons were paid for with credit cards. I don't know the ins and outs of how the credit card companies forward the money but is this a 60/90 day settlement period?

I thought credit card facilities had been withdrawn at Hearts. A long time ago, due to their financial state.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I sometimes think its just us that sees it. All the journos are afraid to tell it as it is or they miss the point entirely. Have any of them come out and criticised the yam hordes for their loyalty to Romanov or failure to protect their own club? Spineless

Perhaps that fud Cowan should have a go at writing an article on that very topic instead of having a dash at Hibs fans for having the temerity to give their team vocal backing in a Cup Final.

[Kato]

Vlad learnt all his propaganda skills from the Soviet era KGB - he's had them hook, line and sinker ever since.

And while I don't think we would have been quite so supine - I'd bet if a rich foreigner came along promising champions league football and the Scottish cup there would be plenty of Hibs fans willing to give him the benefit of the doubt - you only have to look at the regular calls to 'break the bank' for (fill in the blank) to see how football fans crave success.

To be honest - I doubt he'd get a toe in the door.

[Part/Time Supporter]

I sometimes think its just us that sees it. All the journos are afraid to tell it as it is or they miss the point entirely. Have any of them come out and criticised the yam hordes for their loyalty to Romanov or failure to protect their own club? Spineless

There's a big element of "dog bites man" in the reporting of Hearts now. Most of the journos won't get that interested unless something new happens. Plus a lot of them criticised him years ago for other stuff and feel like criticising him now is like flogging a dead horse.

[blackpoolhibs]

Im sick of sick of hearing about them about time they were shutdown! but i reckon they will manage to pay this tax demand and the sage will continue

You just need to bide your thyme.

[Treadstone]

And while I don't think we would have been quite so supine - I'd bet if a rich foreigner came along promising champions league football and the Scottish cup there would be plenty of Hibs fans willing to give him the benefit of the doubt - you only have to look at the regular calls to 'break the bank' for (fill in the blank) to see how football fans crave success.

Probably. Although the debt he took on has increased and is now owed to (former) interests of the owner. The money claimed to have been put in would comfortably have cleared debt, built a new stadium and put the payroll as easily at the time the third best in the league. Salaries apart no infrastructure promised has materialised and I'm not surprised, bricks and mortar doesn't cut it for him.

Romanov was a nightmare for us Hibs fans at first, a rich guy spending money at the Yams. Turns out it wasn't even his money the cup win in 2012 belongs to the Lith taxpayer more than it does to even the most dyed-in-the-wool Yam.

I'd like to think that if a money man turned up at ER amid all the promises and the debt hadn't been cleared as first port of call then we would smell a rat.

This is possibly hindsight but I'd like to think 1990 gave Hibs fans a scepticism that would allow us to see clearly and evaluate situations for what they are.

[monktonharp]

Un-bloody-believable

A Yam roaster's post


if mr romanov needs a place to hide, i will help him.

please god let him be ok. this witch hunt is a disgrace


:faf:think I'll start a new Vlad thread. GBV= God Bless Vlad,just thinking of my opening line, but where do you start?

[Ozyhibby]

think I'll start a new Vlad thread. GBV= God Bless Vlad,just thinking of my opening line, but where do you start?

Perhaps wait till it's all done and dusted and have a thread in honour of all the people who brought about their demise.
People like Foulkes and Mackay should not be left out. There are lots of people involved and all their contributions should be recognised.

[patlowe]

There's a big element of "dog bites man" in the reporting of Hearts now. Most of the journos won't get that interested unless something new happens. Plus a lot of them criticised him years ago for other stuff and feel like criticising him now is like flogging a dead horse.

There does appear to have been a lack of journalistic rigour in relation to Hearts though, it has to be said. You would think the (allegedly) shady goings-on at Tynecastle over recent times would be a goldmine for hacks but most either don't seem to know anything or appear unwilling to stick their neck out.

[Part/Time Supporter]

There does appear to have been a lack of journalistic rigour in relation to Hearts though, it has to be said. You would think the (allegedly) shady goings-on at Tynecastle over recent times would be a goldmine for hacks but most either don't seem to know anything or appear unwilling to stick their neck out.

Not really. And even if there was something genuinely shocking there, at the end of the day it is only Hearts and therefore only really of interest to (most) Scottish football fans.

[Treadstone]

Not really. And even if there was something genuinely shocking there, at the end of the day it is only Hearts and therefore only really of interest to (most) Scottish football fans.

I think the media get their knickers in a twist over a lot less. No ones asking for Panorama and Dispatches to get the fine tooth combs out but a few searching questions from journos covering them wouldn't go amiss.

[HibeeMG]

You just need to bide your thyme.

:applause:

[Gus Fring]

I'm reliably told that journalists that cover Hearts (Banderson, Brian mclaughlin et al) are "well looked after". The rest haven't been ablt to get close enough for the last few years to even begin digging. Hearts are notoriously difficult to deal with outside of the "circle". The difference between them and Rangers is that Green and Whyte liked to give it the "big I am" so would give interviews to anyone who would listen.

[JimBHibees]

You just need to bide your thyme.

Is that you paprikaing over the cracks? :greengrin

[Kato]

I'm reliably told that journalists that cover Hearts (Banderson, Brian mclaughlin et al) are "well looked after". The rest haven't been ablt to get close enough for the last few years to even begin digging. Hearts are notoriously difficult to deal with outside of the "circle". The difference between them and Rangers is that Green and Whyte liked to give it the "big I am" so would give interviews to anyone who would listen.

Wouldn't surprise me. There's a video somewhere with Vlad walking downstairs at Riccarton and as he passes #AllIsBarry he gives him a little pat on the shoulder like he's lap-dog. #AllIsBarry looks so pleased if smugness was released as Carbon we'd be in an Ice-Age as we speak.

Maybe someone has that Vid? Desperate Dan?

[Treadstone]

Wouldn't surprise me. There's a video somewhere with Vlad walking downstairs at Riccarton and as he passes #AllIsBarry he gives him a little pat on the shoulder like he's lap-dog. #AllIsBarry looks so pleased if smugness was released as Carbon we'd be in an Ice-Age

:faf:

I understand it is hard for journos especially local ones but if you go too far the other way that should also hurt your credibilty. When guys like VR go down they won't be calling Barry to give him the scoop.

[easty]

think I'll start a new Vlad thread. GBV= God Bless Vlad,just thinking of my opening line, but where do you start?

Surely it should start something like -

Vlad commandeth 'let it be barry'
And #allwasbarry

[Beefster]

Perhaps that fud Cowan should have a go at writing an article on that very topic instead of having a dash at Hibs fans for having the temerity to give their team vocal backing in a Cup Final.

Where is this myth that Tam Cowan criticised the Hibs fans for backing the team coming from? His article didn't say one negative thing about us.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Nae idea! I just like to take any opportunity to abuse him cos he is a grade A welt!

[Kato]

Where is this myth that Tam Cowan criticised the Hibs fans for backing the team coming from? His article didn't say one negative thing about us.

He very carefully avoided having a go at the Hibs support. Still, it was written to wind the Hibs support up - so he's fair game.

[Beefster]

Nae idea! I just like to take any opportunity to abuse him cos he is a grade A welt!

Fair enough!

[hibs4thecup1988]

Where is this myth that Tam Cowan criticised the Hibs fans for backing the team coming from? His article didn't say one negative thing about us.

Agreed. I agreed with every word he wrote

[Sanger]

Cracking read, hiding in moscow protected by chechen bodyguards, send in Bond!
Just when you think the whole saga can't get any more bizarre!

[Sanger]

Probably. Although the debt he took on has increased and is now owed to (former) interests of the owner. The money claimed to have been put in would comfortably have cleared debt, built a new stadium and put the payroll as easily at the time the third best in the league. Salaries apart no infrastructure promised has materialised and I'm not surprised, bricks and mortar doesn't cut it for him.

Romanov was a nightmare for us Hibs fans at first, a rich guy spending money at the Yams. Turns out it wasn't even his money the cup win in 2012 belongs to the Lith taxpayer more than it does to even the most dyed-in-the-wool Yam.

I'd like to think that if a money man turned up at ER amid all the promises and the debt hadn't been cleared as first port of call then we would smell a rat.

This is possibly hindsight but I'd like to think 1990 gave Hibs fans a scepticism that would allow us to see clearly and evaluate situations for what they are.


Dundee U & Dunfermline smelt the rat. Only the thick desperate Yams didn't!

[pontius pilate]

Given that the lith authorities may be issuing a European arrest warrant for mad vlad would that have any implications for the ****. What with the spl fit and proper persons test and all

[Saorsa]

Wouldn't surprise me. There's a video somewhere with Vlad walking downstairs at Riccarton and as he passes #AllIsBarry he gives him a little pat on the shoulder like he's lap-dog. #AllIsBarry looks so pleased if smugness was released as Carbon we'd be in an Ice-Age as we speak.

Maybe someone has that Vid? Desperate Dan?Afraid not, I dinnae think I've actually seen that.

[Kato]

Afraid not, I dinnae think I've actually seen that.

Cool, I shall poke around for it when I have time. It's good if you like that little bit of sick in your mouth feeling.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Dundee U & Dunfermline smelt the rat. Only the thick desperate Yams didn't!

Dunfermline had a very lucky escape! I overheard a business lunch in Kiev involving some of Vlads Scottish suitors that he never took his plans forward with Dunfermline cos The Pars chairman at the times wife didnae want him to stay in Kaunas overnight after a meeting with Vlad, so, he didnae go over.

[Springbank]

"Wilson was paraded last week after leaving Liverpool and the 21-year-old admitted he sought assurances from the Hearts hierarchy over the club’s financial future before penning a deal.

Just over a week later it has, however, emerged there are fresh concerns the club could enter administration over the unpaid tax bill."

I can't believe they would have lied to him.

A week is a long time in Yamathematics

[lapsedhibee]

Perhaps wait till it's all done and dusted and have a thread in honour of all the people who brought about their demise.
People like Foulkes and Mackay should not be left out. There are lots of people involved and all their contributions should be recognised.

Another epic Desperate Dan picture-thread looms! :yum yum:

[Saorsa]

Another epic Desperate Dan picture-thread looms! :yum yum:We'll have the thread when the go pop. :agree: Just a wee taster for now :greengrin

1 George 'pishy breeks fatty' Foulkes

http://i41.tinypic.com/ynlsm.jpg


Romanov represents the hope for the future of hearts and I urge the clubs major shareholders not to price the Lithuanian banker out of a deal, otherwise "they'll never be forgiven by the fans"

I've dealt with Romanov. I've had two meetings with him. He and his people are very positive. Everything they've said they'll do, they've done. They're straightforward and they've got the money behind themOther peoples money but never mind eh!


2 Leslie Deans

http://i41.tinypic.com/2dim0k3.jpg


The future is bright under Vlaimir Romanov, the club has strong leadership and we are fortunate to have a man like Vladimir


:faf: :faf: :faf:

[Mikey]

2 Leslie Deans

http://i41.tinypic.com/2dim0k3.jpg




:faf: :faf: :faf:


I'm sure there's a Leslie Deans/Desperate Dan lookalike out there somewhere. That's some chin............

[kdhibees1]

I've just made the tide coming in at Cramond Island and to my amazement......
http://img22.imageshack.us/edit_preview.php?l=img22/4826/submarinemaximumdepth80.jpg&action=rotate

[Gus Fring]

I've just made the tide coming in at Cramond Island and to my amazement......
http://img22.imageshack.us/edit_preview.php?l=img22/4826/submarinemaximumdepth80.jpg&action=rotate

:faf:

[SteveHFC]

I'm sure there's a Leslie Deans/Desperate Dan lookalike out there somewhere. That's some chin............

:rotflmao::rotflmao:

[Mikey]

:rotflmao::rotflmao:

I was of course referring to the real Desperate Dan. Not..... erm......... the real Desperate Dan :greengrin

[green glory]

I've just made the tide coming in at Cramond Island and to my amazement......


Considering it's Fatty Foulkes you should change the colour of water to yellow.

While you're at it you can add Gary Locke with a snorkel.

[Saorsa]

I was of course referring to the real Desperate Dan. Not..... erm......... the real Desperate Dan :greengrin:wink:

[Mikey]

:wink:

Looks a wee bit like Hector too :greengrin

[green glory]

The Scotsman covering The 'manhunt' now.




10092



10093

[green glory]

The Scotsman covering The 'manhunt' now.

<img src="http://www.hibs.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10092"/>

<img src="http://www.hibs.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10093"/>

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/lithuanian-financial-crime-unit-begin-romanov-hunt-1-2955206?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

[kdhibees1]

The Scotsman covering The 'manhunt' now.




10092



10093 Absolutely amazing!! :thumbsup:

[Hibernia Na Eir]

not heard anything from 'The Whiskey Face' (aka Gary MacKay) in the papers re their latest cash flow "problem".

Always tomorrow.....

[Hermit Crab]

not heard anything from 'The Whiskey Face' (aka Gary MacKay) in the papers re their latest cash flow "problem".

Always tomorrow.....

Medals ersehole will be knitting buttons like the rest of the yam roasters.

[Chris.igoe]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?

[Hermit Crab]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?

That's just somebody at the lash surely.

[EdinMike]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?

Someone call an ambulance because I think I just broke my Sternum through laughter... :faf:

[Treadstone]

not heard anything from 'The Whiskey Face' (aka Gary MacKay) in the papers re their latest cash flow "problem".

Always tomorrow.....

Glad ye clarified that one my money was on Pishy Breeks or John Blobertson.

[Springbank]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?

They don't do irony in eh11 but if they did then it would be great to read after hearts get pumped by Pompey or Coventry given the cheating similarities

[lapsedhibee]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?

Undercover hibbies on wirbacksbroke.co.uk will go to absolutely any lengths.:not worth

[Dibben]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?

One of the funniest lines from KB ever!

:-)

[Chris.igoe]

No whitedevires the boy is called deluded . Minihuns hahahaha

[YehButNoBut]

Wonder if Hearts will do the same with Wonga. :greengrin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22791288

Bolton Wanderers drop QuickQuid pay-day loan firm sponsor

Bolton Wanderers Football Club have dropped plans to be sponsored by pay-day loan company QuickQuid after fans protested against the move.

The club said it had taken the decision after "feedback" from fans and discussions with "local and national politicians".

A petition against the Championship club's two-year sponsorship deal received almost 4,500 signatures.

The club will now be sponsored by Bolton-based energy company FibrLec.

The team's kit will carry its logo along with the Bolton University logo, as the firm grew from the university.

In a statement, the club said: "Whilst we anticipated some negative responses from the initial agreement, we underestimated the adverse reaction to the sector of business in which the sponsor operated".

A protest attended by fans and Bolton West MP Julie Hilling was held outside Bolton Town Hall after the QuickQuid deal was announced.

The MP said the pay-day loan industry "exploits vulnerable people who need ready money".

[kdhibees1]

The flumpoids must be absolutely bricking it. The sheer fact that they are in the Papers day by day now must be killing them inside. It's absolutely amazing, loving it!! Ehhhhhh, but hud oan ya bam......5-1.......
:fenlonRight up ye's!!

[Springbank]

Wonder if Hearts will do the same with Wonga. :greengrin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22791288

Bolton Wanderers drop QuickQuid pay-day loan firm sponsor

Bolton Wanderers Football Club have dropped plans to be sponsored by pay-day loan company QuickQuid after fans protested against the move.

The club said it had taken the decision after "feedback" from fans and discussions with "local and national politicians".

A petition against the Championship club's two-year sponsorship deal received almost 4,500 signatures.

The club will now be sponsored by Bolton-based energy company FibrLec.

The team's kit will carry its logo along with the Bolton University logo, as the firm grew from the university.

In a statement, the club said: "Whilst we anticipated some negative responses from the initial agreement, we underestimated the adverse reaction to the sector of business in which the sponsor operated".

A protest attended by fans and Bolton West MP Julie Hilling was held outside Bolton Town Hall after the QuickQuid deal was announced.

The MP said the pay-day loan industry "exploits vulnerable people who need ready money".

I think shef wed did something similar.

The yams on t'other hand....

[kdhibees1]

Wonder if Hearts will do the same with Wonga. :greengrin

. Canny see it. They simply can't afford to refuse any sponsorship!

[ScottB]

I think shef wed did something similar.

The yams on t'other hand....

I think Wednesday turned down an approach by a pay day lender that was worth more than the deal they chose out of principal.

[Sergey]

In-fighting/bickering/incest et al.

The strong smell of coffee is hitting them hard and only the Vlad dolts are prominent.

Got to give Lawson some credit - he's turned full circle and is taking it tight :thumbsup:

[Saorsa]

I think Wednesday turned down an approach by a pay day lender that was worth more than the deal they chose out of principal.Wonga will be ok with the ****s then as they have none.

[EdinMike]

Another idiot I'm about to delete from Facebook...

"Completely agree - he's actually served Hearts well. People forget that we were further up **** creek than we are now when he took over. Our debt is at the same level but we've seen 2 Scottish Cups, splitting the old, the Champions League and numerous other memorable European nights.

Vlad could actually see the way it was going long before anyone else. If he hadn't made moves over a year ago (might be longer than that) to make Hearts self sustainable, then we would have went into admin years ago. His decision to do that is what has kept us going and will see us through this current mess."

:faf:

[ScottB]

Another idiot I'm about to delete from Facebook...

"Completely agree - he's actually served Hearts well. People forget that we were further up **** creek than we are now when he took over. Our debt is at the same level but we've seen 2 Scottish Cups, splitting the old, the Champions League and numerous other memorable European nights.

Vlad could actually see the way it was going long before anyone else. If he hadn't made moves over a year ago (might be longer than that) to make Hearts self sustainable, then we would have went into admin years ago. His decision to do that is what has kept us going and will see us through this current mess."

:faf:

It's like newspeak over there now or something, do they know what self sustainable even means?!

There's no debating with some of them, full indoctrinated in the gospel of their 'messiah'

[SmashinGlass]

Another idiot I'm about to delete from Facebook...

"Completely agree - he's actually served Hearts well. People forget that we were further up **** creek than we are now when he took over. Our debt is at the same level but we've seen 2 Scottish Cups, splitting the old, the Champions League and numerous other memorable European nights.

Vlad could actually see the way it was going long before anyone else. If he hadn't made moves over a year ago (might be longer than that) to make Hearts self sustainable, then we would have went into admin years ago. His decision to do that is what has kept us going and will see us through this current mess."

:faf:

No chance I'd be deleting this individual on Facebook. The comedy potential is simply far too great to do it. There will be better to come.... Mark my words on that one :greengrin

[greenpaper55]

Ok, own up who is winding them up , they don't like it ?. taken from......over there.


rantnrave, on 05 June 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:
We need to remain cool all is not lost.

Lets ake a step back and look at where we are.

1. Fed has said we are 2.5 million short off next years budget.
2. We have sold 6500 season tickets ( but the money raised has been spent or has dissapeared)
3. Ukio Bankus now in Admin own Tynecastle. ( 10 million due )
4. UBIG Own the majority off the shares and are about to be Liquidated 15 million debt due )
5. No income stream right now as season has not started.
6. 100k due in seven days time or HMRC Will serve winding up order.
7. Wages due on 16th of June ( and we have no money )
8. Vlad is on the run ( 50 million fraud case against him )




Nos 3 & 4 are wrong, and 8 may be misleading.

3. Hearts own Tynecastle. Ukio have a security over Tynecastle in respect of part of Hearts £15M debt to Ukio. Ukio are appealing against a Liquidation order.
4. UBIG are likely to go into administration, not liquidation, shortly. The debt to UBIG is £10M

8. The 50M you refer to is 50M Litas or approx £12.5M.



That will be alright then ? , what a bunch of wallopers they are.

[Saorsa]

Another idiot I'm about to delete from Facebook...

"Completely agree - he's actually served Hearts well. People forget that we were further up **** creek than we are now when he took over. Our debt is at the same level but we've seen 2 Scottish Cups, splitting the old, the Champions League and numerous other memorable European nights.

Vlad could actually see the way it was going long before anyone else. If he hadn't made moves over a year ago (might be longer than that) to make Hearts self sustainable, then we would have went into admin years ago. His decision to do that is what has kept us going and will see us through this current mess."

:faf::faf: :faf:

http://i39.tinypic.com/4kah4p.gif

[EdinMike]

No chance I'd be deleting this individual on Facebook. The comedy potential is simply far too great to do it. There will be better to come.... Mark my words on that one :greengrin

Already did, should I mention he's a political graduate as well.. He'll fit right into Edinburgh Council !

[Bostonhibby]

Canny see it. They simply can't afford to refuse any sponsorship!

:agree: They are hoping to strike a deal with Kim Jong Un, now that Vlad has finally gone there is only really one better megalomaniac for them to look up to. Medals MacKay and Fatty Foulkes are heading over there now on the tincastle tandem.

[YehButNoBut]

I think shef wed did something similar.

The yams on t'other hand....

Can't remember any of them even questioning having Wonga as sponsor, absolutely no morals that shower. :yw:

[SmashinGlass]

Already did, should I mention he's a political graduate as well.. He'll fit right into Edinburgh Council !

I fear for the future of humanity if idiots with that level of stupidity are gaining degrees. I seriously do.

[Part/Time Supporter]

:agree: They are hoping to strike a deal with Kim Jong Un, now that Vlad has finally gone there is only really one better megalomaniac for them to look up to. Medals MacKay and Fatty Foulkes are heading over there now on the tincastle tandem.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be looking for a gig soon.

[kdhibees1]

Another idiot I'm about to delete from Facebook...

"Completely agree - he's actually served Hearts well. People forget that we were further up **** creek than we are now when he took over. Our debt is at the same level but we've seen 2 Scottish Cups, splitting the old, the Champions League and numerous other memorable European nights.

Vlad could actually see the way it was going long before anyone else. If he hadn't made moves over a year ago (might be longer than that) to make Hearts self sustainable, then we would have went into admin years ago. His decision to do that is what has kept us going and will see us through this current mess."

:faf:
This certainly sums up their level of thinking!! Scary!!

[Bostonhibby]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be looking for a gig soon.

:agree: Certainly a worthy candidate but he always struck me as being more of a fondant fancy man rather than your cruder Yam cake/bun which tends to be hussled up at speed from a tesco value cake mix and full of dandruff and toe nails, time will tell though.

[fat freddy]

Wonder if Hearts will do the same with Wonga. :greengrin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22791288

Bolton Wanderers drop QuickQuid pay-day loan firm sponsor

Bolton Wanderers Football Club have dropped plans to be sponsored by pay-day loan company QuickQuid after fans protested against the move.

The club said it had taken the decision after "feedback" from fans and discussions with "local and national politicians".

A petition against the Championship club's two-year sponsorship deal received almost 4,500 signatures.

The club will now be sponsored by Bolton-based energy company FibrLec.

The team's kit will carry its logo along with the Bolton University logo, as the firm grew from the university.

In a statement, the club said: "Whilst we anticipated some negative responses from the initial agreement, we underestimated the adverse reaction to the sector of business in which the sponsor operated".

A protest attended by fans and Bolton West MP Julie Hilling was held outside Bolton Town Hall after the QuickQuid deal was announced.

The MP said the pay-day loan industry "exploits vulnerable people who need ready money".






there's something about this statement that makes me think about the big team

[Carheenlea]

10099

[FranckSuzy]

10099

:greengrin :top marks

[kdhibees1]

10099 Class:not worth Love the bottom of the bar 'Pasquale Bruno kicked here' and 'Ronnie Corbett stood here' Effin superb the Boylester!

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Check the size of Fulton's strip! Pahahahaha

[cam75]

10099

Is that Alex salmond in the corner sweating over his pint?
GGTTH

[Prof. Shaggy]

[/B]there's something about this statement that makes me think about the big team

Ah! But they'd only exploit themselves.

[poolman]

I just seen this on kickback .they are crazy


If the SPL bump us, then we can apply to join the Blue Square and be in the Premiership in about 6 years?


It's a good job I put ma bottle o' bishop's finger back down before I read that yin

[degenerated]

Is that Alex salmond in the corner sweating over his pint?
GGTTH

Eric Milligan at far left of the bar too

[Hibby Gav]

10099

Brilliant ! :top marks

[pontius pilate]

Tweet been sent on twitter.
I can confirm that vlad is not in the Broomhouse area. I am working in park head today so I shall keep an eye out for him.

[Dibben]

Tweet been sent on twitter.
I can confirm that vlad is not in the Broomhouse area. I am working in park head today so I shall keep an eye out for him.

#HelpfindVlad

[The Falcon]

They're all on about buying their season tickets on a credit card to protect their money but why arent the credit card companies all over this. They have dimishing prospects of seeing the start of the season let alone completing it.

They all seem to think that it is all very simple and the club will be picked up for peanuts. Every one of them seems to forget that UKIO have security over the stadium and assets and that no one, other than Hearts minded folk will apparently be allowed to bid. UKIO are also expected to bend over and take it willingly and be grateful.

#allisbarry

[edinburghhibee]

I'm about to head to world of football ill keep my peepers open for the mad one on route...

[Just Alf]

They're all on about buying their season tickets on a credit card to protect their money but why arent the credit card companies all over this. They have dimishing prospects of seeing the start of the season let alone completing it.

They all seem to think that it is all very simple and the club will be picked up for peanuts. Every one of them seems to forget that UKIO have security over the stadium and assets and that no one, other than Hearts minded folk will apparently be allowed to bid. UKIO are also expected to bend over and take it willingly and be grateful.

#allisbarry

I'm sure I read in T's & C's at one point that if you can reasonably be expected to know there may be a problem in getting your goods and/or service fulfilled then the Credit Card insurance thingy can be deemed invalid..... and as there's loads of mentions on brokeback that admin is only a matter of time then I think they might be pi**ing in the wind when they try to get their season ticket money back!

[The Falcon]

I'm sure I read in T's & C's at one point that if you can reasonably be expected to know there may be a problem in getting your goods and/or service fulfilled then the Credit Card insurance thingy can be deemed invalid..... and as there's loads of mentions on brokeback that admin is only a matter of time then I think they might be pi**ing in the wind when they try to get their season ticket money back!

Lets hope so. :thumbsup:

[Godsahibby]

They're all on about buying their season tickets on a credit card to protect their money but why arent the credit card companies all over this. They have dimishing prospects of seeing the start of the season let alone completing it.

They all seem to think that it is all very simple and the club will be picked up for peanuts. Every one of them seems to forget that UKIO have security over the stadium and assets and that no one, other than Hearts minded folk will apparently be allowed to bid. UKIO are also expected to bend over and take it willingly and be grateful.

#allisbarry

Nothing to do with credit card companies. In the event of a chargeback, it would be the company who processed the transaction who would be liable for the debt.

Having worked in the industry and managed the accounts of a few different football clubs where season tickets were being purchased on a card and we had concerns about the business, I would normally withhold settlement of the funds an released these back to the club over the season as our exposure reduced. That way of the club was to fail and their fixtures were not fulfilled we would always have a level of security to protect against the expected chargebacks.

[Godsahibby]

I'm sure I read in T's & C's at one point that if you can reasonably be expected to know there may be a problem in getting your goods and/or service fulfilled then the Credit Card insurance thingy can be deemed invalid..... and as there's loads of mentions on brokeback that admin is only a matter of time then I think they might be pi**ing in the wind when they try to get their season ticket money back!

That might be in the terms and conditions but means nothing under card scheme rules. If you have paid for a service on your card (MasterCard Credit, Visa Credit and Visa Debit only) and that service has not been fulfilled i.e paying in advance for entry to watch almost 20 home games of football then you have a right to claim that money back via a chargeback.

[Geo_1875]

Surely a Season Ticket is only valid until the final game. If their season is over in August they've got what they paid for.

[Waxy]

I've been doing my bit. Checking bushes and shrubs as i'm going past. Haven't found him yet.

[Part/Time Supporter]

Nothing to do with credit card companies. In the event of a chargeback, it would be the company who processed the transaction who would be liable for the debt.

Having worked in the industry and managed the accounts of a few different football clubs where season tickets were being purchased on a card and we had concerns about the business, I would normally withhold settlement of the funds an released these back to the club over the season as our exposure reduced. That way of the club was to fail and their fixtures were not fulfilled we would always have a level of security to protect against the expected chargebacks.

Thanks, that is informative. You could have a situation where they have reportedly sold 6500 STs, but if most of those are sold by credit card, they won't have received anything like as much cash as you would expect based on those sales. It would be ironic if Jambos buying their STs on credit cards, in an attempt to be clever, have actually shafted the club because the credit card companies have not released most (or all) of that sale to HMFC.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Hard times for Sir Vlad, he has lost all his assets, and has suffered a stroke and a heart attack in the space of a month.......

[Treadstone]

Nothing to do with credit card companies. In the event of a chargeback, it would be the company who processed the transaction who would be liable for the debt.

Having worked in the industry and managed the accounts of a few different football clubs where season tickets were being purchased on a card and we had concerns about the business, I would normally withhold settlement of the funds an released these back to the club over the season as our exposure reduced. That way of the club was to fail and their fixtures were not fulfilled we would always have a level of security to protect against the expected chargebacks.

Very informative.

If Craig Whyte has done one thing it is that whoever operates in this sphere won't pull their own pants down and lube themselves up in future.

[Mark1875]

Nothing to do with credit card companies. In the event of a chargeback, it would be the company who processed the transaction who would be liable for the debt.

Having worked in the industry and managed the accounts of a few different football clubs where season tickets were being purchased on a card and we had concerns about the business, I would normally withhold settlement of the funds an released these back to the club over the season as our exposure reduced. That way of the club was to fail and their fixtures were not fulfilled we would always have a level of security to protect against the expected chargebacks.

Was waiting on someone that knew a little about this posting this sort of stuff. I read something online along those lines not long ago but can't find the link anymore so didn't want to post info I couldn't back up with print.

Basically the report was to do with clubs on the brink down south having credit card facilities withdrawn when it came to season tickets. The clubs realised this would hit them hard so they ended up negotiating C/C facilities but instead of receiving the whole amount when the purchase was made the C/C companies drip fed the cash to them on fulfilment of the fixtures. If this is how hearts ST's are being handled it would partially explain their confidence(apart from the £2.5M whole in their balance sheet:greengrin) of being in a better place during the season.


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[JimBHibees]

Hard times for Sir Vlad, he has lost all his assets, and has suffered a stroke and a heart attack in the space of a month.......

and appears to be able to get treatment for both without having to attend a hospital. Genius. :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

and appears to be able to get treatment for both without having to attend a hospital. Genius. :greengrin

He can't afford the fees Jim, probably got some dodgy witch doctor healing him with glow sticks:greengrin

[Gus Fring]

He can't afford the fees Jim, probably got some dodgy witch doctor healing him with glow sticks:greengrin

I hope they're bright green and the treatment involves administering them rectally

[Caversham Green]

They're all on about buying their season tickets on a credit card to protect their money but why arent the credit card companies all over this. They have dimishing prospects of seeing the start of the season let alone completing it.

They all seem to think that it is all very simple and the club will be picked up for peanuts. Every one of them seems to forget that UKIO have security over the stadium and assets and that no one, other than Hearts minded folk will apparently be allowed to bid. UKIO are also expected to bend over and take it willingly and be grateful.

#allisbarry

Not just that, they're suggesting paying a small amount by CC and the rest in cash so that they can claim the lot back when the bog is flushed. So, not content with their club living off 'Mr Romanov's' illicit earnings for seven years, they're now encouraging insurance fraud.

Truly a club with no shame.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I hope they're bright green and the treatment involves administering them rectally

:greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Not just that, they're suggesting paying a small amount by CC and the rest in cash so that they can claim the lot back when the bog is flushed. So, not content with their club living off 'Mr Romanov's' illicit earnings for seven years, they're now encouraging insurance fraud.

Truly a club with no shame.

Incitement to commit fraud. :hmmm:

Isn't that something the police would be interested in?

[lapsedhibee]

Having worked in the industry and managed the accounts of a few different football clubs where season tickets were being purchased on a card and we had concerns about the business, I would normally withhold settlement of the funds an released these back to the club over the season as our exposure reduced. That way if the club was to fail and their fixtures were not fulfilled we would always have a level of security to protect against the expected chargebacks.

That sounds suspiciously like something that might be spun by #allisbarry or some other lapdog as 'Hearts fans having chosen to pay for their STs by instalments'. Wasn't something like that floating about a few days ago? (Floating about, that is, like a fatty, bloodied turd.)

[Dashing Bob S]

Time to shut this utter mess of a club down for good.

[Treadstone]

Not just that, they're suggesting paying a small amount by CC and the rest in cash so that they can claim the lot back when the bog is flushed. So, not content with their club living off 'Mr Romanov's' illicit earnings for seven years, they're now encouraging insurance fraud.

Truly a club with no shame.

Seen the post on brokeback and wondered what it was about. A couple of weeks ago the admins wouldn't let a guy post a link to the audio of the AGM but fraud on a large scale is encouraged. :confused:

[EskbankHibby]

Hard times for Sir Vlad, he has lost all his assets, and has suffered a stroke and a heart attack in the space of a month.......

His eczema has flared up as well apparently, seems clear to me that this poor misunderstood chap will be unable to stand trial at any stage soon.

Seems like only yesterday he was boxing with Bednar and dancing on the telly, tragic.

[Ozyhibby]

If only a pound was paid on the credit card the surely only the pound is insured?
Why would they refund the whole amount?

[Treadstone]

His eczema has flared up as well apparently, seems clear to me that this poor misunderstood chap will be unable to stand trial at any stage soon.

Seems like only yesterday he was boxing with Bednar and dancing on the telly, tragic.

Bad eczema you say. Plastic surgery may be required.

[Stevie Reid]

Bad eczema you say. Plastic surgery may be required.

I lost a leg to eczema.

It never rains but it pours for poor Vlad. Bless.

[Crazyhorse]

Bad eczema you say. Plastic surgery may be required.
While he's in they may as well prick his boil and remove his spectacles nurse...after all that's what he did to the entire hearts support

[Lang Toun Hibs]

He can't afford the fees Jim, probably got some dodgy witch doctor healing him with glow sticks:greengrin

Of course in the old days they would probably have used blood sucking leeches which would be kind of ironic!

[pacorosssco]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/3/26/1238081761878/Vladimir-Romanov-001.jpghttp://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01367/FOOTBALL345_1367849a.jpg

is this his disguise.....

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Is that Alex salmond in the corner sweating over his pint?
GGTTH


Eric Milligan at far left of the bar too

John Swinney next to Salmond too?

[The Green Goblin]

Thanks, that is informative. You could have a situation where they have reportedly sold 6500 STs, but if most of those are sold by credit card, they won't have received anything like as much cash as you would expect based on those sales. It would be ironic if Jambos buying their STs on credit cards, in an attempt to be clever, have actually shafted the club because the credit card companies have not released most (or all) of that sale to HMFC.

Ironic and poetic.

[brydekirk]

If only a pound was paid on the credit card the surely only the pound is insured?
Why would they refund the whole amount?
Not sure about your card company but mine is only on payments over £100 that are insured.

[NeilOrrSquareBa]

If Vlad is on the lam does that not make him a non fit and proper person to run a football club and by definition his club's membership of the once proud SPL defuncted?:greengrin

[MyJo]

If only a pound was paid on the credit card the surely only the pound is insured?
Why would they refund the whole amount?


http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/problem/can-i-claim-on-my-credit-card-when-something-goes-wrong/

[lord bunberry]

If Vlad is on the lam does that not make him a non fit and proper person to run a football club and by definition his club's membership of the once proud SPL defuncted?:greengrin

Vlad hasn't officially had anything to do with hearts for years, he isn't a board member that's why he or hearts don't get punished when he has one of his mafia rants

[Treadstone]

Taking the proverbial.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/228361-aberdeen-and-hearts-vie-with-rangers-for-prince-buaben-and-morgaro-gomis/

[SHODAN]

Taking the proverbial.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/228361-aberdeen-and-hearts-vie-with-rangers-for-prince-buaben-and-morgaro-gomis/

Oh for ****'s sake. Maybe we're all just talking ***** and they're really just fine? I seriously cannot understand why they are STILL making offers for players when they have NO money and owe millions. Seriously, what the ****. :grr:

[Matty_Jack04]

Taking the proverbial.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/228361-aberdeen-and-hearts-vie-with-rangers-for-prince-buaben-and-morgaro-gomis/

If there not linked to players, they don't sell ST's, if they don't sell ST's...its curtains

[CropleyWasGod]

Oh for ****'s sake. Maybe we're all just talking ***** and they're really just fine? I seriously cannot understand why they are STILL making offers for players when they have NO money and owe millions. Seriously, what the ****. :grr:

You don't get it , do you? :greengrin

[EdinMike]

If there not linked to players, they don't sell ST's, if they don't sell ST's...its curtains

Nailed it. :top marks

[jonty]

Oh for ****'s sake. Maybe we're all just talking ***** and they're really just fine? I seriously cannot understand why they are STILL making offers for players when they have NO money and owe millions. Seriously, what the ****. :grr:

I'll buy that £10 in your wallet for 10p. Don't say i'm not giving you the chance to make money

[IndieHibby]

The SPL should be seriously embarrassed by Hearts continued 'activity' in the transfer market - it is, after all, the SPL's jurisdiction to regulate their activity.

In the papers yesterday, stating clearly that unless season tickets increase the may not be able to pay HMRC (again).

In the papers today making offers to ex-Championship/EPL

Other national FA's must be pissing themselves with laughter over this. Only one year after the omnishambles that is/was Rangers.

What a pathetic excuse for a regulatory body they are.

[Gus Fring]

Taking the proverbial.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/228361-aberdeen-and-hearts-vie-with-rangers-for-prince-buaben-and-morgaro-gomis/

More players on high wages resulting in higher PAYE tax bills they can't afford to pay? Bring it on I say. These aren't bad news stories for people who want Hearts dead, they are the best stories you could hope for (other than "Hearts cease to exist) because this proves its all BS and they have no intention of cutting the wage bill. All they are doing is swapping the names round. The higher Hearts' outgoings, the less likely they are to survive. Even if they do make it to the start of the season, established players on high wages not getting paid on time will cause a far bigger stink than youth players :wink:

[Gus Fring]

The SPL should be seriously embarrassed by Hearts continued 'activity' in the transfer market - it is, after all, the SPL's jurisdiction to regulate their activity.

In the papers yesterday, stating clearly that unless season tickets increase the may not be able to pay HMRC (again).

In the papers today making offers to ex-Championship/EPL

Other national FA's must be pissing themselves with laughter over this. Only one year after the omnishambles that is/was Rangers.

What a pathetic excuse for a regulatory body they are.

You don't want to believe everything you read in the papers, mate. The SPL can't take action on what the newspapers say Hearts are upto. Hearts would just make the counter-point that in the last week the press have also said they are self-sufficient and that they have every intention of paying the tax bill.

[Hank Schrader]

Maybe we're all just talking ***** and they're really just fine?

No, they certainly are not fine. Not even close.

Just because STV are linking them with players doesn't mean they will sign them. Even if they don't go bust soon they will have a hard job convincing players that Tynecastle is where they should play their football, especially with all that has come to light in recent weeks.

[Part/Time Supporter]

TBF to them, this story seems to be the players' agent drumming up interest in his players by dropping names of clubs that may be interested in them. Rather than them boasting of who they want (which would be reported by BAnderson).

[Dashing Bob S]

The longer Vlad stays missing, the worse it potentially gets for them. Of course, if he shows up tomorrow, its still catastrophic.

[Oscar T Grouch]

The longer Vlad stays missing, the worse it potentially gets for them. Of course, if he shows up tomorrow, its still catastrophic.

Not if you read brokeback, some of them don't even think they'll get a points deduction :rolleyes: many predicting a 2nd place finish too, and 5 new signings, but to be fair there are some saying relegation, but only if they get the points deduction. Seriously deluded bunch of idiots. They seem to think that the club can be sold to an investor and escape with no consequences :agree:

:jamboclows

[McHibby]

I've been doing my bit. Checking bushes and shrubs as i'm going past. Haven't found him yet.

We need to stay vigilant. I told the guys steering the punts in Cambridge to keep an eye out for a submarine lurking about the River Cam :lurksub:
I have been assured it's not deep enough but with Romanov anything is possible. I mean, just look at how he turned a pub team from Gorgie into Champions League Winners within 3 years...

[Mon Dieu4]

Its a quote from an agent, we all know that lots of them spout more nonsense than Vlad himself, wouldn't pay too much attention to it

[Geo_1875]

The longer Vlad stays missing, the worse it potentially gets for them. Of course, if he shows up tomorrow, its still catastrophic.

If Vlad is involved with the Chechens as is being reported he might never turn up again. :bye:

[hibs4thecup1988]

Not sure about your card company but mine is only on payments over £100 that are insured.

Are you maybe confused with regards debit cards? There is a 100 pound guarantee on debit cards.

Anything spent on credit cards is insured. I got tickets for a gig a few years ago 78 quid. All insured.

[Part/Time Supporter]

Its a quote from an agent, we all know that lots of them spout more nonsense than Vlad himself, wouldn't pay too much attention to it

Story confirmed as pish by the Aberdeen FC twitter account.

"Reports linking AFC to Morgaro Gomis & Prince Buaben are completely without foundation.The Club has not made any offers to these players."

[MyJo]

Are you maybe confused with regards debit cards? There is a 100 pound guarantee on debit cards.

Anything spent on credit cards is insured. I got tickets for a gig a few years ago 78 quid. All insured.

There is no guarantee with debit cards, your possibly thinking of the old cheque guarantee scheme.

If you use your debit card and something goes wrong you can try and claim the money back through a chargeback which is a voluntary scheme for debit cards that visa, MasterCard etc participate in.

Purchases on credit cards below £100 are under the same scheme but if you pay for something between £100 and £30k with your credit card it is insured under section 75 of the consumer credit act which means the card provider is jointly liable along with the retailer for the purchase and if anything goes wrong you can claim the cost of the purchase back through your credit card provider and you MUST be refunded in accordance with the legislation.

[Twa Cairpets]

The SPL should be seriously embarrassed by Hearts continued 'activity' in the transfer market - it is, after all, the SPL's jurisdiction to regulate their activity.

In the papers yesterday, stating clearly that unless season tickets increase the may not be able to pay HMRC (again).

In the papers today making offers to ex-Championship/EPL

Other national FA's must be pissing themselves with laughter over this. Only one year after the omnishambles that is/was Rangers.

What a pathetic excuse for a regulatory body they are.

Sadly, as has been posted before, the SPL/SFA cant do anything until (a) there is no doubt it will win an appeal, and (b) they actively do something wrong, or (c) go bust/into admin/liquidation.

If they don't break rules, but merely bend them to within an inch of snapping, then they could offer Messi £300,000 a week to tempt him to some serious Champions League activity and it would be fine up to the point that he wasn't paid or they actively defaulted past their statutory obligations.

It would be worse if they jump the gun, even if we/they all know that the end-game is inevitable.

(Bear in mind also that the offer Hearts made could have been a salary of 2 Battenburgs and a coconut pyramid per week. The expectation of the agent to increase suggests their holding out for yum-yums and Belgian biscuits as a minimum).

[Bostonhibby]

If there not linked to players, they don't sell ST's, if they don't sell ST's...its curtains

They want a goalkeeper and the average Yam have been clamouring for Templeton to be replaced so they are now the sole bidders for Yashin and Puskas.

[--------]

I've been doing my bit. Checking bushes and shrubs as i'm going past. Haven't found him yet.

"All right, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the run for more than 24 hours.

Average foot speed over uneven ground barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of ninety-six miles.

What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, hen-house, outhouse and doghouse in that area.

Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles.

Your fugitive's name is Mad Vlad Romanov.

Go get him ..."

:cb

[Archie70]

"All right, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the run for more than 24 hours.

Average foot speed over uneven ground barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of ninety-six miles.

What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, hen-house, outhouse and doghouse in that area.

Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles.

Your fugitive's name is Mad Vlad Romanov.

Go get him ..."

:cb

If only you'd said 5h1t house they'd have known where to find him!

[hibeesdude]

10111

ok so it took a bout 5 mins to do but made me smile :greengrin

[kdhibees1]

10111

ok so it took a bout 5 mins to do but made me smile :greengrin
:top marks Superb!!

[Saorsa]

10111

ok so it took a bout 5 mins to do but made me smile :greengrin:hilarious :thumbsup:

[Hermit Crab]

"All right, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the run for more than 24 hours.

Average foot speed over uneven ground barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of ninety-six miles.

What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, hen-house, outhouse and doghouse in that area.

Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles.

Your fugitive's name is Mad Vlad Romanov.

Go get him ..."

:cb

Alright folks listen up wyatt Earp is taking over here!!

[iwasthere1972]

I spotted him down East Fortune on Sunday selling dodgy LP's out the back of a 1972 Ford Transit.

[Hibby70]

"
What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, hen-house, outhouse and doghouse in that area.

You missed out bus shelter.

[lapsedhibee]

"All right, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the run for more than 24 hours.

Average foot speed over uneven ground barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of ninety-six miles.

What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, hen-house, outhouse and doghouse in that area.

Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles.

Your fugitive's name is Mad Vlad Romanov.

Go get him ..."

:cb

Already changed his surname from McMad, then, which he must have figured would stick out a bit in deepest Chechnya. Perhaps the brokebackers are right, he is a genius. :dunno:

[CallumLaidlaw]

Story confirmed as pish by the Aberdeen FC twitter account.

"Reports linking AFC to Morgaro Gomis & Prince Buaben are completely without foundation.The Club has not made any offers to these players."

Rangers with a similar tweet -

@RFC_Official: PRESS: Rangers Football Club can confirm we have no interest in signing Prince Buaben and Morgaro Gomis: http://t.co/IhB2vCXnCh

[Mikey]

Rangers with a similar tweet -

@RFC_Official: PRESS: Rangers Football Club can confirm we have no interest in signing Prince Buaben and Morgaro Gomis: http://t.co/IhB2vCXnCh

Well done both clubs. Agent's bluff well and truly called.

[the_ginger_hibee]

Well done both clubs. Agent's bluff well and truly called.

Nice one. About time nonsense like this was ended.

Don't expect a denial from Hearts though...how else are they going to shift Season Tickets?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Nice one. About time nonsense like this was ended.

Don't expect a denial from Hearts though...how else are they going to shift Season Tickets?

The merricks will be too busy, scraping round the back of their sofa's and raiding piggy banks, than have time to worry about speculation like Gomis and Bauben.....

[Winston Ingram]

Meanwhile on JKB, it looks like some sort of super natural event is going to save them...


Although unhappy at this week's events my feeling is we'll be fine. When I get this feeling I'm trustng it to be correct from experience.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Meanwhile on JKB, it looks like some sort of super natural event is going to save them...

They still don't get it, when will the penny eventually drop?

[The Falcon]

There is a growing confidence that someone will make a move to buy the club sometime "next week" and it may take as much as £1m to buy the club lock stock and without any debt. UKIO/UBIG will accept this, apparently, because they have to as its better than nothing.

[Coco Bryce]

Everything is gonna be fine, so boy called Rudi has pledged to FOH...

[Saorsa]

There is a growing confidence that someone will make a move to buy the club sometime "next week" and it may take as much as £1m to buy the club lock stock and without any debt. UKIO/UBIG will accept this, apparently, because they have to as its better than nothing.Where do you get this crap from?

[CB_NO3]

There is a growing confidence that someone will make a move to buy the club sometime "next week" and it may take as much as £1m to buy the club lock stock and without any debt. UKIO/UBIG will accept this, apparently, because they have to as its better than nothing.
Its not really in the hands of Ukio now as they are being controlled by the Lithuainian authorities. Ubig cant sell Hearts as their assets are currently frozen.

[The Falcon]

Where do you get this crap from?

Its all here

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/128713-tax-casewages-hearts-bust-in-a-week-merged/

It appears we are getting the wrong end of the stick......

[The Falcon]

Its not really in the hands of Ukio now as they are being controlled by the Lithuainian authorities. Ubig cant sell Hearts as their assets are currently frozen.

You need to read Keeckback if you believe that nonsense. FoH will make them an offer and they will take their hands off and will be grateful they are getting anything at all.


Apparently :wink:

[Saorsa]

Its all here

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/128713-tax-casewages-hearts-bust-in-a-week-merged/

It appears we are getting the wrong end of the stick......well that explains it, dinnae think I'll bother with the link thanks.

[Mark1875]

Where do you get this crap from?

I may be wrong, but I detected more than a hint of sarcasm in that post. My detective skills are fairly non-existent though, took me ****in ages to play through LA Noire:greengrin

Think I'm in a time warp. I thought I replied fairly quick, apparently not. :grr:

[The Falcon]

I may be wrong, but I detected more than a hint of sarcasm in that post. My detective skills are fairly non-existent though, took me ****in ages to play through LA Noire:greengrin

Well spotted at this time of night :greengrin

[The Falcon]

well that explains it, dinnae think I'll bother with the link thanks.

You really should. It is a humbling experience that would bring a tear to a glass eye.

[CB_NO3]

Well spotted at this time of night :greengrin
I get you now mate.

[HibeeB]

Its all here

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/128713-tax-casewages-hearts-bust-in-a-week-merged/

It appears we are getting the wrong end of the stick......

Is that a Hibs site? I have never as many people with that sense of humour in one place at one time in my life. ******g hilarious.

[Kato]

Its all here

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/128713-tax-casewages-hearts-bust-in-a-week-merged/

It appears we are getting the wrong end of the stick......

Someone has his finger on the pulse.


If I believe anything I definitely believe we're skint.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Still things are looking up - Shaun Lawson is in Uruguay - wonder if his mother knows...?

[Saorsa]

Still things are looking up - Shaun Lawson is in Uruguay - wonder if his mother knows...?Maybe that's where Vlad is and he's visiting :hmmm:

[HibeeB]

Eet is terruble wot he has done.

To raize muney for hiz investagatiun would you come to the kar boot sale at greenside on sundey and buy fabulus beatles albums from me????

All proseeds go to good kause.

[greenpaper55]

This is unbelievable from Fatty Barron Foulkes of Cumnock in the House of Lords yesterday and i quote

In the House of Lords during a debate on tax evasion and avoidance, Lord Foulkes, the former Scotland Office Minister, attacked tax dodgers.
He said: "Those who dodge their legitimate tax obligation commit a severe moral breach but they also deprive our schools and our hospitals of much-needed investment and create problems for responsible businesses who pay their fair share of taxation."

:faf: What a hypocritical arse that man is, does he even think before he opens his gob ?.

[Geo_1875]

What brass neck that man has. Maybe pished at the time and read someone else's speech?

[Springbank]

Lord Foulkes breeks are clearly Wetter Together (*political pun from a free thinking Yes supporter!)

[ScottB]

This is unbelievable from Fatty Barron Foulkes of Cumnock in the House of Lords yesterday and i quote

In the House of Lords during a debate on tax evasion and avoidance, Lord Foulkes, the former Scotland Office Minister, attacked tax dodgers.
He said: "Those who dodge their legitimate tax obligation commit a severe moral breach but they also deprive our schools and our hospitals of much-needed investment and create problems for responsible businesses who pay their fair share of taxation."

:faf: What a hypocritical arse that man is, does he even think before he opens his gob ?.

Would be curious to know his own tax arrangements...

[Treadstone]

Lord Foulkes breeks are clearly Wetter Together (*political pun from a free thinking Yes supporter!)

:faf:

Like it Springbank

[Kaiser1962]

Someone has his finger on the pulse.


If I believe anything I definitely believe we're skint.

Christ they dont miss much!

And yet thet are still just sitting there waiting on somebody else to do something and just expecting that somebody will.


A. Yamfud posted

"They tend not to pay these bills right up until the last minute and they are using this bill to drum up ST sales."
It's not that dangerous a strategy. It seems the Hearts support are forever going to dig deeper into their pockets to bail out the club. I feel the board are milking the support for every last penny before the hammer eventually falls.

[Treadstone]

Someone has his finger on the pulse.
If I believe anything I definitely believe we're skint.

I perticularly like the poster on brokeback who thinks FoH will make their move next week. This would be the same FoH who if counting the money banked from pledges so far would stand at the grand total of £0. They also have a meeting of their next move next Friday. :faf:

[JeMeSouviens]

The 5-1 legacy stuff is getting desperate. The not-really-a-yam Lawson is just about there in terms of realising what an empty triumph subsequent events have proved it to be, so the Muppets are turning on him again. :greengrin

Still, at least one celebrity is still backing them up ... :wink:

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/08/23/20/42/alqbO.St.4.jpeg

[MB62]

The 5-1 legacy stuff is getting desperate. The not-really-a-yam Lawson is just about there in terms of realising what an empty triumph subsequent events have proved it to be, so the Muppets are turning on him again. :greengrin

Still, at least one celebrity is still backing them up ... :wink:

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/08/23/20/42/alqbO.St.4.jpeg

If this man wants to celebrate HIbs League cup win over Kilmarnock, let him. :thumbsup:

[Caversham Green]

Christ they dont miss much!

And yet thet are still just sitting there waiting on somebody else to do something and just expecting that somebody will.


A. Yamfud posted

"They tend not to pay these bills right up until the last minute and they are using this bill to drum up ST sales."
It's not that dangerous a strategy. It seems the Hearts support are forever going to dig deeper into their pockets to bail out the club. I feel the board are milking the support for every last penny before the hammer eventually falls.

There's actually some merit in what the yam says. The news broke on Monday - almost certainly leaked by the club - giving four working days for them to raise enough money to pay the bill. Cheques take at least three working days to clear, credit card companies release funds a week in arrears at best and even debit cards and electronic transfers can take a couple of days so pretty much anyone who bought their ST with anything other than folding cash after Tuesday is unlikely to have contributed to this bill - those who attempted to commit insurance fraud might be ok though.

If HoMFC manage to pay this bill off (always assuming it really does exist) they were probably always going to do so and this was just another exercise in extracting more money from the poor saps who gave them over £1m sixmonths ago and got everything in the following list in return:

[Moulin Yarns]

There's actually some merit in what the yam says. The news broke on Monday - almost certainly leaked by the club - giving four working days for them to raise enough money to pay the bill. Cheques take at least three working days to clear, credit card companies release funds a week in arrears at best and even debit cards and electronic transfers can take a couple of days so pretty much anyone who bought their ST with anything other than folding cash after Tuesday is unlikely to have contributed to this bill - those who attempted to commit insurance fraud might be ok though.

If HoMFC manage to pay this bill off (always assuming it really does exist) they were probably always going to do so and this was just another exercise in extracting more money from the poor saps who gave them over £1m sixmonths ago and got everything in the following list in return:

Thanks Cav. My computer almost crashed with the volume of data on that list!!:wink:

[Caversham Green]

Thanks Cav. My computer almost crashed with the volume of data on that list!!:wink:

:greengrin Took me ages to compile.

[greenginger]

There's actually some merit in what the yam says. The news broke on Monday - almost certainly leaked by the club - giving four working days for them to raise enough money to pay the bill. Cheques take at least three working days to clear, credit card companies release funds a week in arrears at best and even debit cards and electronic transfers can take a couple of days so pretty much anyone who bought their ST with anything other than folding cash after Tuesday is unlikely to have contributed to this bill - those who attempted to commit insurance fraud might be ok though.

If HoMFC manage to pay this bill off (always assuming it really does exist) they were probably always going to do so and this was just another exercise in extracting more money from the poor saps who gave them over £1m sixmonths ago and got everything in the following list in return:


I reckon telling your customers you are about to go out of business to promote sales must rate as a football Ratner moment. :greengrin

Of course the target market being Yams makes it subtle marketing.

[fat freddy]

There's actually some merit in what the yam says. The news broke on Monday - almost certainly leaked by the club - giving four working days for them to raise enough money to pay the bill. Cheques take at least three working days to clear, credit card companies release funds a week in arrears at best and even debit cards and electronic transfers can take a couple of days so pretty much anyone who bought their ST with anything other than folding cash after Tuesday is unlikely to have contributed to this bill - those who attempted to commit insurance fraud might be ok though.

If HoMFC manage to pay this bill off (always assuming it really does exist) they were probably always going to do so and this was just another exercise in extracting more money from the poor saps who gave them over £1m sixmonths ago and got everything in the following list in return:


it took me a while to read through the full list and i noticed that you neglected to include the share certificates that the fans received for their investment...other than that, it is a fair reflection of the benefits the fans received for their loyalty to their club.


oh wait...

[poolman]

:greengrin Took me ages to compile.

You must have worked all night on that list :agree:

[JimBHibees]

Still things are looking up - Shaun Lawson is in Uruguay - wonder if his mother knows...?

Think you misheard think he is in a guy rather than Uruguay. :greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

Few jambo mates of mine (some well educated believe it or not) are in good spirits today. Expecting a big rush on season tickets sales today after hearing some good news last night :confused::confused:

I worry for them sometimes :agree:

[YehButNoBut]

Few jambo mates of mine (some well educated believe it or not) are in good spirits today. Expecting a big rush on season tickets sales today after hearing some good news last night :confused::confused:

I worry for them sometimes :agree:

Has Vlad been found? :thumbsup:

[clerriehibs]

There's actually some merit in what the yam says. The news broke on Monday - almost certainly leaked by the club - giving four working days for them to raise enough money to pay the bill. Cheques take at least three working days to clear, credit card companies release funds a week in arrears at best and even debit cards and electronic transfers can take a couple of days so pretty much anyone who bought their ST with anything other than folding cash after Tuesday is unlikely to have contributed to this bill - those who attempted to commit insurance fraud might be ok though.

If HoMFC manage to pay this bill off (always assuming it really does exist) they were probably always going to do so and this was just another exercise in extracting more money from the poor saps who gave them over £1m sixmonths ago and got everything in the following list in return:

It does exist, doesn't it? Did it not become public because another winding up order was lodged at the CoS??

[Mark1875]

The 5-1 legacy stuff is getting desperate. The not-really-a-yam Lawson is just about there in terms of realising what an empty triumph subsequent events have proved it to be, so the Muppets are turning on him again. :greengrin

Still, at least one celebrity is still backing them up ... :wink:

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/08/23/20/42/alqbO.St.4.jpeg

Lawson even mentions the 7 nil game on page11. I reckon it's only a matter of a couple of weeks, or the next big bill, until he cracks completely and tells it exactly like it is. Which is of course that they may have got the result in the biggest fixture, but they don't own the biggest result in the fixture. :greengrin


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[Caversham Green]

It does exist, doesn't it? Did it not become public because another winding up order was lodged at the CoS??

There's no winding up petition at Companies House and the press stories spoke about them "facing a winding up order" if the payment wasn't made within seven days. That information would not have come from Hector and there are some inconsistencies - such as the timing of the debt as discussed earlier - that just make the whole thing smell a bit.

[Treadstone]

There's no winding up petition at Companies House and the press stories spoke about them "facing a winding up order" if the payment wasn't made within seven days. That information would not have come from Hector and there are some inconsistencies - such as the timing of the debt as discussed earlier - that just make the whole thing smell a bit.

Journo said it was due Monday (3rd) on Twitter. Someone earlier on this thread said that the SPL need to be informed if they are overdue by three days. Surely something other than a Yams spokesman 'dialogue with HMRC' would be in the public domain either by leak or officially.

All stories seem to be off the back of the original story and not their own journalistic endeavours. Coming round to the fact this is just to light a fire under the hold backs.

[clerriehibs]

There's no winding up petition at Companies House and the press stories spoke about them "facing a winding up order" if the payment wasn't made within seven days. That information would not have come from Hector and there are some inconsistencies - such as the timing of the debt as discussed earlier - that just make the whole thing smell a bit.

A bit?!?! They deserve each other.

[jacomo]

Lawson even mentions the 7 nil game on page11. I reckon it's only a matter of a couple of weeks, or the next big bill, until he cracks completely and tells it exactly like it is. Which is of course that they may have got the result in the biggest fixture, but they don't own the biggest result in the fixture. :greengrin


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This is the same bloke who did his own "thorough" investigation into Vlad's business dealings and was convinced Hearts would conquer Europe. I wouldn't pay much attention to him.

[Bostonhibby]

Think you misheard think he is in a guy rather than Uruguay. :greengrin

Wee Shauns other team is the Uruguay subbueteo team, when he is not at star trek conventions with his ma, he follows them everywhere. He is going to stage a yam V uruguay match for the biggest ever world cup final he is laying the pitch as soon as ma finishes hoovering his candy floss off the carpet.

[hibeesdude]

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Please bare with me. Heard today that the club is in a serious place regarding a shortfall of money to get us over the summer. Whilst we know all know this is not exactly new 'news' it was the gravity of the situation that shocked me. However it was pointed out that if everyone who had a season ticket last year and hasn't currently not renewed but then did so, then things would improve dramatically.

So why renew? Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon. I am geniunely not privvy to more than this but I can assure everyone that things are further down the line than simply 'consortiums' registering an interest.

So, what do can we do to help in the meantime? Simple enough, I am sure we all know someone who has not renewed from last season - badger them to do so. This is so vital to us right now - bringing the fans back on board not just for this season but going forward. Every additional season ticket will help us take that step towards being self sufficient and with likely new owners on the horizon then I cannot see anything but a positive future for Heart of Midlothian espically after years of uncertainty and at times negativity. (Apologise for the lack of PUNCTUATION - MY PC IS PLAYING UP).

No doubt I will get slaughtered by some but the message is clear - get you friends and family memebers who are lapsed ST holders back on board again - we have all put our money where our mouth is over the last year or so but I firmly believe that we are almost there with new owners but we just need the income that ST revenue will bring us to get us through the summer. Every ST bought is a step towards a positive future!!!!

[Mikey]

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Please bare with me. Heard today that the club is in a serious place regarding a shortfall of money to get us over the summer. Whilst we know all know this is not exactly new 'news' it was the gravity of the situation that shocked me. However it was pointed out that if everyone who had a season ticket last year and hasn't currently not renewed but then did so, then things would improve dramatically. So why renew? Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon. I am geniunely not privvy to more than this but I can assure everyone that things are further down the line than simply 'consortiums' registering an interest. So, what do can we do to help in the meantime? Simple enough, I am sure we all know someone who has not renewed from last season - badger them to do so. This is so vital to us right now - bringing the fans back on board not just for this season but going forward. Every additional season ticket will help us take that step towards being self sufficient and with likely new owners on the horizon then I cannot see anything but a positive future for Heart of Midlothian espically after years of uncertainty and at times negativity. (Apologise for the lack of PUNCTUATION - MY PC IS PLAYING UP). No doubt I will get slaughtered by some but the message is clear - get you friends and family memebers who are lapsed ST holders back on board again - we have all put our money where our mouth is over the last year or so but I firmly believe that we are almost there with new owners but we just need the income that ST revenue will bring us to get us through the summer. Every ST bought is a step towards a positive future!!!!

I've just read that and the obvious stumbling block is ignored completely. UBIG's assets are still frozen and the club can't be sold to anyone.

[CropleyWasGod]

Please bare with me.

I stopped at this bit. I'm not getting my kit off for a Yam.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Please bare with me. Heard today that the club is in a serious place regarding a shortfall of money to get us over the summer. Whilst we know all know this is not exactly new 'news' it was the gravity of the situation that shocked me. However it was pointed out that if everyone who had a season ticket last year and hasn't currently not renewed but then did so, then things would improve dramatically. So why renew? Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon. I am geniunely not privvy to more than this but I can assure everyone that things are further down the line than simply 'consortiums' registering an interest. So, what do can we do to help in the meantime? Simple enough, I am sure we all know someone who has not renewed from last season - badger them to do so. This is so vital to us right now - bringing the fans back on board not just for this season but going forward. Every additional season ticket will help us take that step towards being self sufficient and with likely new owners on the horizon then I cannot see anything but a positive future for Heart of Midlothian espically after years of uncertainty and at times negativity. (Apologise for the lack of PUNCTUATION - MY PC IS PLAYING UP). No doubt I will get slaughtered by some but the message is clear - get you friends and family memebers who are lapsed ST holders back on board again - we have all put our money where our mouth is over the last year or so but I firmly believe that we are almost there with new owners but we just need the income that ST revenue will bring us to get us through the summer. Every ST bought is a step towards a positive future!!!!

Oh well" that must that then !! #allsbarry !! Haw haw haw

[#FromTheCapital]

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Please bare with me. Heard today that the club is in a serious place regarding a shortfall of money to get us over the summer. Whilst we know all know this is not exactly new 'news' it was the gravity of the situation that shocked me. However it was pointed out that if everyone who had a season ticket last year and hasn't currently not renewed but then did so, then things would improve dramatically. So why renew? Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon. I am geniunely not privvy to more than this but I can assure everyone that things are further down the line than simply 'consortiums' registering an interest. So, what do can we do to help in the meantime? Simple enough, I am sure we all know someone who has not renewed from last season - badger them to do so. This is so vital to us right now - bringing the fans back on board not just for this season but going forward. Every additional season ticket will help us take that step towards being self sufficient and with likely new owners on the horizon then I cannot see anything but a positive future for Heart of Midlothian espically after years of uncertainty and at times negativity. (Apologise for the lack of PUNCTUATION - MY PC IS PLAYING UP). No doubt I will get slaughtered by some but the message is clear - get you friends and family memebers who are lapsed ST holders back on board again - we have all put our money where our mouth is over the last year or so but I firmly believe that we are almost there with new owners but we just need the income that ST revenue will bring us to get us through the summer. Every ST bought is a step towards a positive future!!!!

They all seem to hold this view that the club will be getting bought over in the next week or so and all will be barry.....UBIGS ASSETS ARE FROZEN YOU ****ING IDIOTS!!!!!
The only way they will be unfrozen is when UBIG go into admin which means -15 points for next season. Even then there will still need to be a sufficient bid, Foundation of Hearts don't have a bolt and I would seriously question anyone or any group other than FoH that would want to buy Hearts.

[YehButNoBut]

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Please bare with me. Heard today that the club is in a serious place regarding a shortfall of money to get us over the summer. Whilst we know all know this is not exactly new 'news' it was the gravity of the situation that shocked me. However it was pointed out that if everyone who had a season ticket last year and hasn't currently not renewed but then did so, then things would improve dramatically.

So why renew? Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon. I am geniunely not privvy to more than this but I can assure everyone that things are further down the line than simply 'consortiums' registering an interest.

So, what do can we do to help in the meantime? Simple enough, I am sure we all know someone who has not renewed from last season - badger them to do so. This is so vital to us right now - bringing the fans back on board not just for this season but going forward. Every additional season ticket will help us take that step towards being self sufficient and with likely new owners on the horizon then I cannot see anything but a positive future for Heart of Midlothian espically after years of uncertainty and at times negativity. (Apologise for the lack of PUNCTUATION - MY PC IS PLAYING UP).

No doubt I will get slaughtered by some but the message is clear - get you friends and family memebers who are lapsed ST holders back on board again - we have all put our money where our mouth is over the last year or so but I firmly believe that we are almost there with new owners but we just need the income that ST revenue will bring us to get us through the summer. Every ST bought is a step towards a positive future!!!!

Sounds like another letter from Fedotovas. :greengrin

[Treadstone]

Please bare with me.

Management speak for "you're no gonna believe this...


No doubt I will get slaughtered by some...

Aye.

[Coco Bryce]

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Please bare with me. Heard today that the club is in a serious place regarding a shortfall of money to get us over the summer. Whilst we know all know this is not exactly new 'news' it was the gravity of the situation that shocked me. However it was pointed out that if everyone who had a season ticket last year and hasn't currently not renewed but then did so, then things would improve dramatically.

So why renew? Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon. I am geniunely not privvy to more than this but I can assure everyone that things are further down the line than simply 'consortiums' registering an interest.

So, what do can we do to help in the meantime? Simple enough, I am sure we all know someone who has not renewed from last season - badger them to do so. This is so vital to us right now - bringing the fans back on board not just for this season but going forward. Every additional season ticket will help us take that step towards being self sufficient and with likely new owners on the horizon then I cannot see anything but a positive future for Heart of Midlothian espically after years of uncertainty and at times negativity. (Apologise for the lack of PUNCTUATION - MY PC IS PLAYING UP).

No doubt I will get slaughtered by some but the message is clear - get you friends and family memebers who are lapsed ST holders back on board again - we have all put our money where our mouth is over the last year or so but I firmly believe that we are almost there with new owners but we just need the income that ST revenue will bring us to get us through the summer. Every ST bought is a step towards a positive future!!!!

That's exactly what my jambo mate told me this morning (see my earlier post)

[CyberSauzee]

Well, I can say with some degree of knowledge that the move to have new owners is moving fast and that things will take a turn for the positive fairly soon.


I've just read that and the obvious stumbling block is ignored completely. UBIG's assets are still frozen and the club can't be sold to anyone.

Exactly, but "follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it." Joseph Goebbels. Godwin's Law was broken many pages ago on this thread I should add.

#AllIsBarry