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[hibees 7062]

If Hearts are so concerned for player safety, then why did they not exercise the option available to every club of taking a 2 week break in January?

[haagsehibby]

If I understood correctly, I thought there is an embargo from the SPFL for entering administration which lasts until administration is exited and another embargo from the SFA lasting until 1st February for the non payment of wages. So, even if the the SPFL agree to their appeal then the SFA ban still exists for this transfer window.

However, it's perfectly possible that I'm mistaken !

[Spike Mandela]

If I understood correctly, I thought there is an embargo from the SPFL for entering administration which lasts until administration is exited and another embargo from the SFA lasting until 1st February for the non payment of wages. So, even if the the SPFL agree to their appeal then the SFA ban still exists for this transfer window.

However, it's perfectly possible that I'm mistaken !

Yeah but all the players they will want to sign will be available Feb 1st.

[HibeeMG]

So, when do we find out whether they've been told to shut up and man up or whether the powers-that-be have folded to the media pressure?

[Winston Ingram]

So, when do we find out whether they've been told to shut up and man up or whether the powers-that-be have folded to the media pressure?

This on JKB


View PostDannie Boy, on 13 January 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:
Ban lifted in February no conformation yet but will up date when I can.

[dangermouse]

That will relate to the SFA ban which ends on 1st February surely?

[HibeeMG]

This on JKB

Is the poor wee flower no getting a bit confuddled?

The ban for non-payment of wages ends at the beginning of February. The administration one carries on until they exit administration.

I know you know this. That was purely for any lurking Yams. :sofa:

[s.a.m]

Euan McLean ‏@Euanmc1 7m (https://twitter.com/Euanmc1/status/422768510755176448) SPFL announcement on Hearts imminent. Assured the meeting is almost concluded.
Retweeted by George Foulkes (https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes)

[Andy74]

Is the poor wee flower no getting a bit confuddled?

The ban for non-payment of wages ends at the beginning of February. The administration one carries on until they exit administration.

I know you know this. That was purely for any lurking Yams. :sofa:

I think both relate to administration.

The embargo whilst in it is automatic. The other was a punishment which was given to them for entering administration. It could have been a fine or a further embargo.

I think the non payment of wages was never actually addressed sentence wise this time.

[blackpoolhibs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:

:faf:

[Hank Schrader]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:

You are a bad man! :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:

Very good. :-)

[Andy74]

I think both relate to administration.

The embargo whilst in it is automatic. The other was a punishment which was given to them for entering administration. It could have been a fine or a further embargo.

I think the non payment of wages was never actually addressed sentence wise this time.

From the time:

Hearts have been issued with a new registration embargo for going into administration.


A Scottish Football Association judicial panel has imposed a ban on the club signing new players aged 21 and over until February 1 next year.

The club cannot sign any player at the moment because of an automatic registration embargo which kicked in when they went into administration on June 19 under what were then Scottish Premier League rules.

Hearts, whose true debt was yesterday revealed as almost £29million, have escaped a monetary punishment.

But their extended transfer ban will be a blow to manager Gary Locke, who only has two outfield players aged over 21.

Hearts were also hit with an automatic 15-point penalty in June and Locke will be unable to immediately bring in experienced players if the club exits administration before the end of the January transfer window.

Joint-administrator Trevor Birch, who attended the judicial panel hearing at Hampden, was disappointed with the added sanction.

In a statement, he said: “The decision to impose a transfer embargo on players over 21 until the end of January is disappointing.

“Whilst I appreciate that the SFA rules state that clubs in administration will face sanctions, Hearts have already had a points deduction and player embargo - and it feels like we’re being penalised twice.

“That said, these are the cards that we’ve been dealt and we’ll now just have to get on with it.

“At least the decision gives us clarity and means that the bidders can move forward and focus their attention on refining their proposals rather than worrying about possible sanctions.”

[Bobo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:


:greengrin :greengrin

[Aldo]

Nearly had me.....

[Bostonhibby]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:

Hope they get in there quick - Trudi will be a year younger - win/win for the big team.

[whiskyhibby]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:

Hearts Manager John McGlynn...................is this a spoof site?

[tamig]

Hearts Manager John McGlynn...................is this a spoof site?

There's a clue in the date :wink:

[BroxburnHibee]

Yer a bad man G :tee hee:

[whiskyhibby]

There's a clue in the date :wink:


Yep just saw that too..........naughty boy........:greengrin

[AltheHibby]

Blackpool,

You are a total, total £$%^&*(

My company laptop nearly got flying lessons!!

Good one my man. :thumbsup:

[ShadesLongThrow]

Very good! Been refreshing for the last hour and this had me going. :not worth

[Andy74]

That will relate to the SFA ban which ends on 1st February surely?

That ends in Feb anyway. That punishment has been shown to be totally irrelavant, however, as they will not be out of admin by then.

They should consider a punishment now that actually means something. :greengrin

[CapitalGreen]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.

[Zondervan]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Hearts Manager John McGlynn...................is this a spoof site?

:hmmm:

[God Petrie]

Hahahahaha

[Spike Mandela]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.

Ehhhhhhhh?:confused:

[cabbageandribs1875]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.



and quite right as well :agree: now STFU yamboids and finally act with just a tiny little bit of dignity, infact...hit them with a fine for wasting everyones time, payable after exiting admin

[tamig]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.

Pleasing.

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[Andy74]

Ehhhhhhhh?:confused:

I think its because its a rule - it is automatic and not a punishment/sanction. For it to be changed it would mean a rule change which would need to be proposed and voted on.

[Spike Mandela]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.

The fudge is still available................

Euan McLean (@Euanmc1)
13/01/2014 17:10
But individual cases can be considered if hearts approach them to register a player on a like for like basis.

........................and so it drags on.

[tamig]

The fudge is still available................

Euan McLean (@Euanmc1)
13/01/2014 17:10
But individual cases can be considered if hearts approach them to register a player on a like for like basis.

........................and so it drags on.

But that's always been there anyway.

[greenpaper55]

So what's like for like , who decides what level a player is if you want to replace him ?.

[tanfield]

But that's always been there anyway.

correct. no change!

[JeMeSouviens]

So what's like for like , who decides what level a player is if you want to replace him ?.

The SPFL board.


The current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Les Gray (Hamilton Academical), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Bill Darroch (Stenhousemuir).

[nribs]

The seethe on 20pointsback is pleasing

[Mikey]

The seethe on 20pointsback is pleasing

Well they better get used to seething :greengrin

[greenginger]

Scottish Football should realise HOMFC just cannot be trusted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338

After this relaxation of the ban the yams signed 2 Liverpool players on loan, both of who played and contributed to the Inverness semi defeat. Of course Liverpool were never paid the fee for the contribution Hearts had agreed to make to their wages and ended up on the creditors list for £ 46,625.00.

Get a ban for failure to make payments on time, and first thing they do when its lifted is break the rules again.

[Andy74]

The SPFL board.

They will be getting no favours. :greengrin

[GoldenEagle]

The seethe on 20pointsback is pleasing


What about this belter:

"time to play a team full of 15 year olds stuff the spfl lets embarrass the league"



The shame of it all, personally I think I'd need to turn my back on Scottish Football.

[The Sea-gull]

Over the road they are saying "Right, now lets play the 15 year olds and embarrass the league".

Think this means they think by fielding a team of 15 years olds and said 15 year olds getting pumped by cricket scores will embarrass the other teams.

Think the record books would show that the embarrassment of a serious of heavy defeats would be all HOMFC's!

[Andy74]

and quite right as well :agree: now STFU yamboids and finally act with just a tiny little bit of dignity, infact...hit them with a fine for wasting everyones time, payable after exiting admin

As above I'd argue they should be reviewing the SFA punishment again.

Instead of a fine or extended ban they got one that falls away on 1 Feb.

Pointless as they will not be out of admin anyaway so they really haven't had an SFA punishment for being in admin.

[truehibernian]

If Ryan Stevenson resorts to type and leaves the ship as it's sinking, then I'm quite happy for them to sign The Big Nosed Barman in a 'like for like' :aok:

[Andy74]

Over the road they are saying "Right, now lets play the 15 year olds and embarrass the league".

Think this means they think by fielding a team of 15 years olds and said 15 year olds getting pumped by cricket scores will embarrass the other teams.

Think the record books would show that the embarrassment of a serious of heavy defeats would be all HOMFC's!

They aren't allowed to play 15 year olds. They would be getting another punishment for that!

Oh, and no one cares about what type of scores people can now get against Hearts. All of their own doing. They can't afford any other players so the 'punishments' are having no more effect than their own situation has got them to.

[Hibbyradge]

What about this belter:

"time to play a team full of 15 year olds stuff the spfl lets embarrass the league"



The shame of it all, personally I think I'd need to turn my back on Scottish Football.


Over the road they are saying "Right, now lets play the 15 year olds and embarrass the league".

Think this means they think by fielding a team of 15 years olds and said 15 year olds getting pumped by cricket scores will embarrass the other teams.

Think the record books would show that the embarrassment of a serious of heavy defeats would be all HOMFC's!

Idiots.

If that was possible, which it's not because players must be 16 to play in the SPFL, how do they think they senior players would react?

"Sure, I don't mind if you ruin any chance I have of a move elsewhere".

"I get enough wages as it is. I don't need the appearance money".

[JeMeSouviens]

Over the road they are saying "Right, now lets play the 15 year olds and embarrass the league".

Think this means they think by fielding a team of 15 years olds and said 15 year olds getting pumped by cricket scores will embarrass the other teams.

Think the record books would show that the embarrassment of a serious of heavy defeats would be all HOMFC's!

Obviously they'd actually have to be 16 but ... yes please! :aok:

[Just Alf]

Over the road they are saying "Right, now lets play the 15 year olds and embarrass the league".

Think this means they think by fielding a team of 15 years olds and said 15 year olds getting pumped by cricket scores will embarrass the other teams.

Think the record books would show that the embarrassment of a serious of heavy defeats would be all HOMFC's!


Hmmm interesting... do they actually have any 15 year olds in their 1st team squad of 25 playesr? :cb

[Mon Dieu4]

Sounds hell of a lot like grooming to me

[lord bunberry]

What about this belter:

"time to play a team full of 15 year olds stuff the spfl lets embarrass the league"



The shame of it all, personally I think I'd need to turn my back on Scottish Football.
The embarrassment would be all theirs when they hand the team sheet to the referee and he informs them that 15 year olds can't play in the spfl.

[CyberSauzee]

Scottish Football should realise HOMFC just cannot be trusted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338

After this relaxation of the ban the yams signed 2 Liverpool players on loan, both of who played and contributed to the Inverness semi defeat. Of course Liverpool were never paid the fee for the contribution Hearts had agreed to make to their wages and ended up on the creditors list for £ 46,625.00.

Get a ban for failure to make payments on time, and first thing they do when its lifted is break the rules again.

Very good point GG. One that maybe brog can put in one of his letters to the MSM? :wink:

[Andy74]

Don't know what they are worried about. If anyone has great experience in playing with kids, it's them.

[s.a.m]

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 4m (https://twitter.com/STVGrant/status/422783710413750272) Neil Doncaster says Hearts have made initial application to bring in player on one out, one in basis current SPFL rules allow for

[hibees 7062]

What a disgrace. I agree a boycott of away games should now happen

Aw naw :rolleyes:

[Jack Hackett]

At least one of them isn't a complete tolly

"Think I'll just stay in this thread tonight and laugh at the pantwetters who think because we're Hearts we can do whatever the **** we want."

[DaveF]

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 4m (https://twitter.com/STVGrant/status/422783710413750272) Neil Doncaster says Hearts have made initial application to bring in player on one out, one in basis current SPFL rules allow for

King out, Gonzo in? ****** cheek and the SPFL board should hit them with a fine (never to be paid) for wasting time.

[MyJo]

What about this belter:

"time to play a team full of 15 year olds stuff the spfl lets embarrass the league"



The shame of it all, personally I think I'd need to turn my back on Scottish Football.

They are a long looooong way beyond embarrassing the league already,

[Andy74]

King out, Gonzo in? ****** cheek and the SPFL board should hit them with a fine (never to be paid) for wasting time.

This is the lad they've only bothered to play about 3 times even though they are 'strugglin'?

Let's see what their idea of like for like is.

[07hibee]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21061338


Lucky *******s. :wink:
Ok if I pinch that?

[blackpoolhibs]

Ok if I pinch that?

Help yourself, i did. :wink:

[Spike Mandela]

Don't be fooled the fudge is on it's way.........

Grant Russell (@STVGrant)
13/01/2014 17:34
Neil Doncaster says Hearts have made initial application to bring in player on one out, one in basis current SPFL rules allow for.

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[Hibbyradge]

This is the lad they've only bothered to play about 3 times even though they are 'strugglin'?

Let's see what their idea of like for like is.

I thought he was going to remain at Tynecastle till the end of the season.

If that's the case, it's not one out.

There's a wee whisper that Wilson might be looking elsewhere.

[hibees 7062]

Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_8 (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_8)54s (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_8/status/422782645207322624)
#Hearts (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Hearts&src=hash)' registration embargo remains in place. As I said earlier, they can apply to register new players to replace any who leave. #HMFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HMFC&src=hash)

[07hibee]

Help yourself, i did. :wink:

Nice one !

[the_ginger_hibee]

All this to get a 35 year old, lazy, no-played-a-game-in-years, midfielder?

Haha enjoy 'The Snerch' he's well worth it...(plus expenses of course)

[Hibbyradge]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/260219-spfl-leaves-door-open-for-hearts-to-strengthen-squad-under-existing-rules/

[ShadesLongThrow]

May be stating the obvious but the rule is 'one out, one in' so they need to get rid of someone first. That means they'll not get any emergency cover for the likes of Walker and any of the other wee laddies that are feeling a bit poorly.

And what a fantastic bargaining position Swansea now find themselves in. I wonder if Rod is phoning them now with negotiation techniques?

[Golden Bear]

Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_8 (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_8)54s (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_8/status/422782645207322624)
#Hearts (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Hearts&src=hash)' registration embargo remains in place. As I said earlier, they can apply to register new players to replace any who leave. #HMFC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HMFC&src=hash)

So now they can get rid of the entire first team squad and replace them with a team of world cup superstars.

It will happen I tell ye.

:rolleyes:

[GlenrothesHibee]

See these Hearts fans that are moaning about the embargo remaining. BOO F***ING HOO. Makes a mockery of the league? ****** OFF and get it right up you. Reap what you sew.

[Spike Mandela]

May be stating the obvious but the rule is 'one out, one in' so they need to get rid of someone first. That means they'll not get any emergency cover for the likes of Walker and any of the other wee laddies that are feeling a bit poorly.

And what a fantastic bargaining position Swansea now find themselves in. I wonder if Rod is phoning them now with negotiation techniques?

As I have said before the likelyhood is Hibs may sign 1 or 2 players but at least 3 or 4 are free to leave. Most other clubs will at least balance their transfer dealings.

In essence if Hearts use this loophole by selling players or terminating young player's contracts and bringing more experienced in they effectively don't have an embargo at all.

[GodisaHibee]

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[Jack Hackett]

The vitriol being spat out on keekboak at the news is a fair measure of the total delusion coursing through their veins. Most of these welts actually BELIEVED they'd get a reprieve

:lolyam:

[AltheHibby]

"The SPFL obviously dont care about the integrity of the league so why should we"

"Just don't field a team on away days! F them".

"See once we are allowed to fight back though... I want every single employee of HMFC and every single supporter to hold a bit of animosity to our league mates when we are back in the Premiership"

Bitter Hobos.

Oh, hang on, that's us. :greengrin

[Onion]

As I have said before the likelyhood is Hibs may sign 1 or 2 players but at least 3 or 4 are free to leave. Most other clubs will at least balance their transfer dealings.

In essence if Hearts use this loophole by selling players or terminating young players and bringing more experienced in they effectively don't have an embargo at all.

Nothing has changed. This whole thing boils down to what the SPFL regard as "exceptional circumstances". As many have said before, there is very little in the Hearts squad set up that's exceptional - other than them having to live within their means for a ****ing change :greengrin

[the_ginger_hibee]

The vitriol being spat out on keekboak at the news is a fair measure of the total delusion coursing through their veins. Most of these welts actually BELIEVED they'd get a reprieve

:lolyam:

Kickback is great reading tonight.

Haven't heard this kind of seethe since Oldco existed, just waiting for Gary Locke to demand who these faceless wonders are who refused to discuss the situation...

[Gus Fring]

So now they can get rid of the entire first team squad and replace them with a team of world cup superstars.

It will happen I tell ye.

:rolleyes:

All those World Cup superstars will need to take less wages than the guy who is leaving.

I just finished reading the equivalent thread on Kickback. Was brilliant watching them get all excited at the prospect and then getting the rage when they found it it hadn't even been discussed! How dare they not discuss the woes of the famous!

Reminds me of reading the thread they had for the semi against Falkirk.

[Onion]

"The SPFL obviously dont care about the integrity of the league so why should we"

"Just don't field a team on away days! F them".

"See once we are allowed to fight back though... I want every single employee of HMFC and every single supporter to hold a bit of animosity to our league mates when we are back in the Premiership"

Bitter Hobos.

Oh, hang on, that's us. :greengrin

PLEASING :thumbsup:

[WeeWendy]

I wasn't aware that Wilson was brought in on a like-for-like - I thought it was a loophole in relation to his registration not having been transferred back down south.

[MyJo]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/260219-spfl-leaves-door-open-for-hearts-to-strengthen-squad-under-existing-rules/

Make up your mind spfl??

Winter 2014

Stating that the rules would not be changed, he added that Hearts could apply to register a new player under the "one in, one out" principle.

It is understood that the Edinburgh team have indicated they wish to bring in at least one player.

Doncaster said: "Last summer Hearts applied for Danny Wilson to be brought in and they made it clear which player he was replacing.

"The board looked at it and sanctioned Danny Wilson’s registration at that point.

"If Hearts wish to register an individual player then the process is very clear and there’s no question of changing the rules.

"The rules are clear, it has been the case since last summer and these were the rules we used last summer.





Summer 2013


An SPFL statement read: "The SPFL player registration of Heart of Midlothian FC player Danny Wilson would, had he not agreed a contract extension, have terminated on 30 June.
"The SPFL has now received documents extending the contract of the player.
"As a result, the player's existing SPFL registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL player registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration."



So was he signed on the one out one in rule of was he signed because his registration was still with hearts when he agreed a contract.

Doncaster is a mug

[The_Todd]

Hearts already embarrass Scottish football, since when did they need an excuse?

[bawheid]

The vitriol being spat out on keekboak at the news is a fair measure of the total delusion coursing through their veins. Most of these welts actually BELIEVED they'd get a reprieve

:lolyam:

It confirms that the medicine they've taken to date still hasn't worked.

[blindsummit]

It confirms that the medicine they've taken to date still hasn't worked.

Indeed! We may be reaching the point where the life support machine has to be switched off, as the patient appears to be brain dead :greengrin

[SanFranHibs]

We all think we know one of them, but what a dangerous precedent this is.

I sincerely hope this is just delusion on their part but they seem quite convinced they can find players that not only will play for nothingt for the remainder of this season but also for the entire 2014/15 season in the first division.

I would like to know which players can afford to go unpaid for even half a season. Even if it were to happen you know there is some dodgy money being promised them.

Maybe it is Foulkes and Salmond! Locke said he need a couple of experience heavyweights !

:flag:

[ShadesLongThrow]

There's already a thread over the road about who they want to kick out so they can get some has-beens back. Must be hugely motivating for the younger players.

[CallumLaidlaw]

King out, Gonzo in? ****** cheek and the SPFL board should hit them with a fine (never to be paid) for wasting time.

The player coming in would surely need to be under 21 if it's before 1st Feb?

[Spike Mandela]

We all think we know one of them, but what a dangerous precedent this is.

I sincerely hope this is just delusion on their part but they seem quite convinced they can find players that not only will play for nothingt for the remainder of this season but also for the entire 2014/15 season in the first division.

I would like to know which players can afford to go unpaid for even half a season. Even if it were to happen you know there is some dodgy money being promised them.

Maybe it is Foulkes and Salmond! Locke said he need a couple of experience heavyweights !

:flag:

KT did it for us.

[SaulGoodman]

The player coming in would surely need to be under 21 if it's before 1st Feb?

:agree:

It's fine though, Satchel's signing a pre-contract with them so they can tear apart the first division next season

[HFC 0-7]

If they are allowed the 1 in, 1 out scenario what must be made sure of is that they are not strengthening as a result of it. As it stands it could be the young guy King on the way out who is not experienced and only played about 3 games being replaced by a player with SPL experience probably playing every game.

If its allowed to happen I would imagine a like for like basis in the eyes of the SPFL / SFA is someone on the same money.

The rules are there as a punishment, they should be able to make gains in this situation.

[SunshineOnLeith]

What does it say about Hearts fans that they'd see a promising 20 year old home grown player getting injured as a good thing, should it enhance their chances of signing a 35 year old mercenary?

[Jack Hackett]

Make up your mind spfl??

Winter 2014

Stating that the rules would not be changed, he added that Hearts could apply to register a new player under the "one in, one out" principle.

It is understood that the Edinburgh team have indicated they wish to bring in at least one player.

Doncaster said: "Last summer Hearts applied for Danny Wilson to be brought in and they made it clear which player he was replacing.

"The board looked at it and sanctioned Danny Wilson’s registration at that point.

"If Hearts wish to register an individual player then the process is very clear and there’s no question of changing the rules.

"The rules are clear, it has been the case since last summer and these were the rules we used last summer.





Summer 2013


An SPFL statement read: "The SPFL player registration of Heart of Midlothian FC player Danny Wilson would, had he not agreed a contract extension, have terminated on 30 June.
"The SPFL has now received documents extending the contract of the player.
"As a result, the player's existing SPFL registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL player registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration."



So was he signed on the one out one in rule of was he signed because his registration was still with hearts when he agreed a contract.

Doncaster is a mug

He probably thinks we are as well, considering he kept his job after the Sevco fiasco AND got a huge pay rise to boot

[SanFranHibs]

KT did it for us.

Good point !!!

Although he thought we were staying up....lol And he's on his way out now. Bet he won't do that again.

[DaveF]

What does it say about Hearts fans that they'd see a promising 20 year old home grown player getting injured as a good thing, should it enhance their chances of signing a 35 year old mercenary?

I'd say it tells us that that to a man, the inhabitants of sickbag are banjo playing ****wits.

Hardly ground breaking news :greengrin

[Saorsa]

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.Never even discussed it http://i43.tinypic.com/2wdtses.gif


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[Jack]

If 15 years olds aren't allowed to play in the Premiership then they won't be registered.

The yams can't register players.

Anyone else see the problem here for them fielding a team of 15 year olds to embarrass the league?

Embarrassing!

[Skol]

Was the 1 in 1 out for Wilson not his original loan signing last winter.....which ironically they didnt ever pay Liverpool for and it stands as one of their debts

[Keith_M]

A bit off topic but....


Coming soon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nALg1w1IeJo)to a Stadium near you.



In Hearts case, very near :wink:

[Kaiser1962]

They are a long looooong way beyond embarrassing the league already,

They make The Rangers look dignified.

[GreenLake]

A bit off topic but....


Coming soon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nALg1w1IeJo)to a Stadium near you.



In Hearts case, very near :wink:

Staincastle would come down with a few swings of a wrecking ball. The main stand would fold up like a cheap suit with a couple of dozers.

[Jack Hackett]

Staincastle would come down with a few swings of a wrecking ball. The main stand would fold up like a cheap suit with a couple of dozers.

Beat me to it :greengrin

I'd just add that it won't be with a bang, but a whimper.

[QMU-1875]

As I have said before the likelyhood is Hibs may sign 1 or 2 players but at least 3 or 4 are free to leave. Most other clubs will at least balance their transfer dealings.

In essence if Hearts use this loophole by selling players or terminating young player's contracts and bringing more experienced in they effectively don't have an embargo at all.

They have a ban on signing players over the age of 21, also the 'loophole' isn't really one, it can only be used in emergencies and even then football associations tend to be reluctant, it's normally only for goalkeepers.

[Aldo]

Remember the last time they signed 2 in loan from Liverpool. Ended up being really cheap as they didn't pay Liverpool what they were due - over 40 grand.

[The Green Goblin]

If they brought one in, a more experienced player, how on earth would they pay them anyway?

[greenginger]

Was the 1 in 1 out for Wilson not his original loan signing last winter.....which ironically they didnt ever pay Liverpool for and it stands as one of their debts


Correct ! Their reserve goalie/coach and Mcgowan off to China went out and they were allowed to sign Wilson and Ngoo as loans from Liverpool as long as the wages were no more than the outgoing pair.

Well the last part of the deal was kept, ..... paid Liverpool F.A. :greengrin

[lord bunberry]

If they brought one in, a more experienced player, how on earth would they pay them anyway?

They're hearts, they wouldn't. If they can't even pay for a wreath at their own memorial why would they pay for loan players.

[GoldenEagle]

Make up your mind spfl??

Winter 2014

Stating that the rules would not be changed, he added that Hearts could apply to register a new player under the "one in, one out" principle.

It is understood that the Edinburgh team have indicated they wish to bring in at least one player.

Doncaster said: "Last summer Hearts applied for Danny Wilson to be brought in and they made it clear which player he was replacing.

"The board looked at it and sanctioned Danny Wilson’s registration at that point.

"If Hearts wish to register an individual player then the process is very clear and there’s no question of changing the rules.

"The rules are clear, it has been the case since last summer and these were the rules we used last summer.





Summer 2013


An SPFL statement read: "The SPFL player registration of Heart of Midlothian FC player Danny Wilson would, had he not agreed a contract extension, have terminated on 30 June.
"The SPFL has now received documents extending the contract of the player.
"As a result, the player's existing SPFL registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL player registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration."



So was he signed on the one out one in rule of was he signed because his registration was still with hearts when he agreed a contract.

Doncaster is a mug


Whoops, wonder how Neil will explain this one.

We demand transparency! :greengrin

[tamig]

If they brought one in, a more experienced player, how on earth would they pay them anyway?

Because a load of their former heroes are queuing up to play for them for nowt. So the KB'ers would have you believe.

[Spike Mandela]

They have a ban on signing players over the age of 21, also the 'loophole' isn't really one, it can only be used in emergencies and even then football associations tend to be reluctant, it's normally only for goalkeepers.

This part appears to be urban myth QMU. Apparently they can bring in a like for like player on a similar or lesser contract than the one departing.

[Hermit Crab]

Skacel can't sign as he's over 21 have I got that right?

[tamig]

This part appears to be urban myth QMU. Apparently they can bring in a like for like player on a similar or lesser contract than the one departing.

I don't think the rule says anything like that. It says one out/one in which the board will consider on a case by case basis. Don't think there's anything about the contract. That was part of their punishment at the end of 2012/start of 2013 - that they could only replace "like for like." I'm sure that was a one-off punishment made up at that time and not part of the new rules which came into play in the summer.

[Spike Mandela]

Skacel can't sign as he's over 21 have I got that right?

Nobody knows. Depends on the SPFL fudge factor used.:cb

[TheReg!]

I hope they do sign big nose so he gets relegated with the tramps!

[Aldo]

Maradona knows the script



11796

[Biggie]

Maradona knows the script



11796

:not worth:top marks

[Hermit Crab]

Nobody knows. Depends on the SPFL fudge factor used.:cb

One man can't save them anyway. Goodwin will blooter him anyway.

[Bostonhibby]

Because a load of their former heroes are queuing up to play for them for nowt. So the KB'ers would have you believe.

If that's the case, hopefully Zaliukus will be one of them as his current going rate must be nothing. What a performance for Leeds at the weekend, error strewn and never tried a leg. Suspect he has played his last game for Leeds - fans don't appear that happy with him.

[Spike Mandela]

I don't think the rule says anything like that. It says one out/one in which the board will consider on a case by case basis. Don't think there's anything about the contract. That was part of their punishment at the end of 2012/start of 2013 - that they could only replace "like for like." I'm sure that was a one-off punishment made up at that time and not part of the new rules which came into play in the summer.

I'm sure I heard/seen Doncaster say that today.

Edit here it is......

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hearts/260219-spfl-leaves-door-open-for-hearts-to-strengthen-squad-under-existing-rules/

However SPFL rules allow for teams under the embargo to apply to replace players who have left on a comparable or lower salary, at the league board's discretion.

[Jack Hackett]

Maradona knows the script



11796


:faf:

You're on fire tonight Aldo

[Kato]

It's a common theme in the MSM, especially Ewan Murray, when talking about the reason for Hearts downfall that they put forward euphemisms like "business problems", "UGBIG's profits fell" and the ultimately vague "Global recession".

No one from their side is interested at all that Romanov is a fugitive, wanted for serious financial fraud.

[Jack Hackett]

If that's the case, hopefully Zaliukus will be one of them as his current going rate must be nothing. What a performance for Leeds at the weekend, error strewn and never tried a leg. Suspect he has played his last game for Leeds - fans don't appear that happy with him.

He's got his extended contract. he doesn't gie a **** now :wink:

[happiehibbie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25710173

simple really lets try another way can we sign a player pls EH NAW !!

wonder if the player they want is they guy with the big nose of course it is WHY because the dafties will think it will put bums on seats to get there crowds up too 16k

[Bostonhibby]

He's got his extended contract. he doesn't gie a **** now :wink:

Aye, he should be alright as long as he stays in all week and disnae go anywhere near Elland Road on match days. Or maybe those nice Leeds fans will go easy on him because he used to play for a big team.

[Jack Hackett]

It's a common theme in the MSM, especially Ewan Murray, when talking about the reason for Hearts downfall that they put forward euphemisms like "business problems", "UGBIG's profits fell" and the ultimately vague "Global recession".

No one from their side is interested at all that Romanov is a fugitive, wanted for serious financial fraud.

....and it was the recession that showed him up for the lying cheating fraudster that he is, otherwise they'd still be singing his praises

"Stay safe, sweet Prince"

[brog]

Whoops, wonder how Neil will explain this one.

We demand transparency! :greengrin

I saw Doncaster on TV tonight perpetrating the myth that everyone associated with the Yams' misdemeanours has left the club. That would be everyone except the Chief Executive, self-sufficient Southern who has been there for 40 months, ie nearly 3 years before Yams entered Admin. We demand transparency & accuracy!

[Kato]

....and it was the recession that showed him up for the lying cheating fraudster that he is, otherwise they'd still be singing his praises

To an extent. I think the failure of Vlad's plan lies very much at his own door. His stated plan was to filter players through Hearts/Kaunas to the EPL, with the hope being he could return the money to UKIO - and the ordinary/corporate investors there would be none the wiser that he splashing their cash. The most productive part of his "empire", the Birac Plant failed (as you say because of the recession) hamstringing him, but he did far more damage himself with his behaviour at Hearts. If he had left a professional to manage the club he could have coined in some dough with transfer fees, far more than he actually did. The tampering, tinkering and faxing he got up to ensured Hearts underperformed, they should have done far better given the money spent - the up and down nature of their form and shoving too many players through the club meant the transfer money dried up after the male lesbian and the guy they sold to the Baggies. Then again maybe such a plan didn't exist and he was happy to tinker with everything as he was only washing others people's money.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

I hope they do sign big nose so he gets relegated with the tramps!

Now that WOULD be hugely amusing :-)

[Jack Hackett]

To an extent. I think the failure of Vlad's plan lies very much at his own door. His stated plan was to filter players through Hearts/Kaunas to the EPL, with the hope being he could return the money to UKIO - and the ordinary/corporate investors there would be none the wiser that he splashing their cash. The most productive part of his "empire", the Birac Plant failed (as you say because of the recession) hamstringing him, but he did far more damage himself with his behaviour at Hearts. If he had left a professional to manage the club he could have coined in some dough with transfer fees, far more than he actually did. The tampering, tinkering and faxing he got up to ensured Hearts underperformed, they should have done far better given the money spent - the up and down nature of their form and shoving too many players through the club meant the transfer money dried up after the male lesbian and the guy they sold to the Baggies. Then again maybe such a plan didn't exist and he was happy to tinker with everything as he was only washing others people's money.

The actions of a true sociopath....nah, I'll use the old word, it rings truer....psychopath

[poolman]

There really is some mind-boggling posts on Yakbak tonight


My vote goes to David Attenborough who has to be the biggest
Numpty who really should not be out without his full-time carer

[Www1875hfc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHgQCwjJJY

[SurferRosa]

http://www.teamtalk.com/scottish-premier/9115043/SPFL-chief-executive-clears-up-the-signing-situation-at-Hearts?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitte

" Doncaster is adamant the embargo will remain in place until Hearts exit administration, but he insists the club can register new players on the one in, one out policy which applied to the signing of defender Danny Wilson in June last year. "

" Hearts can bring forward an application to register an individual player," Doncaster said, "and to do so, simply need to let us see the contract and to make it clear which player they are replacing, as they did with Danny Wilson last summer. "

There`s a registration embargo in place but they CAN sign players. Says nowt about 'exceptional circumstances' there. Says they just need to let the SPFL see the contracts.

So....the point of this embargo is what, exactly?

[Andy74]

Skacel can't sign as he's over 21 have I got that right?

Nothing in play that covers that. It would only have applied for January if they were out of admin. That SFA embargo is worthless. It's the standard still in admin embargo they are under. No one in at all but if they lose one a replacement can be considered on its merits.

[Heisenberg]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

[zlatan]

I pray they get Skacel. I want him to be on that pitch when their relegation is confirmed.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

When i was 11 i played a game for Tynecastle boys club,scored twice,never told my oldman i had wore a maroon top to play football,and decided to move to Salveson Boys Club and played a few game for them that season,even at 11 i knew i made a mistake putting that turdbrown top on,would have went to Edina but they were horse in my league.

I played one game for them when I was 15 - fortunately I was the goalie and had a yellow top!

[SurferRosa]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

Up to five replacements. What part of 'registration embargo' is the part where they dont get to sign players.

What a joke.

[AltheHibby]

Utterly shameless mob. Theyre worse than their full fat brothers.

[Spike Mandela]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

If that isn't taking the piss then what is?

[whereswallace?]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

If that's even considered as being allowed to happen, it makes an absolute mockery of Scottish football and the people who run it. They shouldn't be allowed to sign 1 single player, rules are rules and they should take their punishment and shut the **** up.

[weonlywon6-2]

http://www.teamtalk.com/scottish-premier/9115043/SPFL-chief-executive-clears-up-the-signing-situation-at-Hearts?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitte

" Doncaster is adamant the embargo will remain in place until Hearts exit administration, but he insists the club can register new players on the one in, one out policy which applied to the signing of defender Danny Wilson in June last year. "

" Hearts can bring forward an application to register an individual player," Doncaster said, "and to do so, simply need to let us see the contract and to make it clear which player they are replacing, as they did with Danny Wilson last summer. "

There`s a registration embargo in place but they CAN sign players. Says nowt about 'exceptional circumstances' there. Says they just need to let the SPFL see the contracts.

So....the point of this embargo is what, exactly?


Is it just me or is this transfer stuff confusing,can they get players in or not
Yes or no will suffice

[brog]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

Cant see how they'll get away with that, may actually work against them as it's now obvious they're taking the p---! The uproar would be something else!

[hfc rd]

Is it just me or is this transfer stuff confusing,can they get players in or not
Yes or no will suffice


I'm just as confused as you are about all of this.

[Skol]

Ive just read a doncaster quote saying Wilson joined in june under the one in one out rule. Therfore one of the 5 departed HAS been replaced already

[Bobo]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

More neck than a giraffe and no shame to match. What a despicable chancing shower of bellends!!

They're a horrible, horrible club and cannae die quick enough for me, the sooner the better!

Come on the Liths, burry them.

[hfc rd]

Ive just read a doncaster quote saying Wilson joined in june under the one in one out rule. Therfore one of the 5 departed HAS been replaced already


So I take it they can sign up to 4 players then?

[The_Todd]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/hearts/260232-hearts-in-talks-with-driver-and-skacel-as-club-hopes-to-replace-five/

Wow.

Is this a p*ss take? 5 in without releasing anyone? I doubt the SPFL will go for that, somehow.

[Hermit Crab]

They are going to escape relegation now. Can't believe this.

[Saorsa]

Cant see how they'll get away with that, may actually work against them as it's now obvious they're taking the p---! The uproar would be something else!:agree:

I cannae see the SPFL letting them work that one, if it's still up tae the SPFL tae decide each on a case by case basis. I dinnae think they'll let them replace anybody that disnae leave this transfer windae. This will be about the 4th time the've tried tae take the piss, I can see the SPLF getting really hacked off with them..

[nribs]

How can you be paid less than **** all though???

[Spike Mandela]

They are going to escape relegation now. Can't believe this.

Naw they're no. The LC semi now that's another matter. ICT may be about to be shafted.

[Mikey]

They are going to escape relegation now. Can't believe this.

Isn't that taking the latest bout of hysteria a little far? I'm surprised some folk on here leave the house in the morning.

[The_Todd]

I assume what will happen is Hearts will say "This is for our five guys who left in the summer" and the SPFL will just tell them it doesn't count if it wasn't done at the same time. Otherwise it really is just Hearts taking the piss (and losing that last ounce of sympathy anyone else had for them)

[Heisenberg]

Apparently money from Adam King transfer will fund any players coming in. There would be uproar if those in charge of the game allowed it to happen.

[Saorsa]

They are going to escape relegation now. Can't believe this.
:panic:

[Peevemor]

They've already said that there's no risk of them escaping the drop so why the need for 5 players? They've already said that they don't have enough money to finish the season, so are the extra 5 all going to play for free? They're also looking to replace staff that they made redundant!

Hearts class!

[#FromTheCapital]

:faf:

Absolutely no chance of this happening, zilch. Just makes them even more of a laughing stock for trying. They have a serious determination to ignore rules and stick the finger up to Scottish football when all it's going to do is piss people off. Just liquidate the fuds and do everyone a favour.

[Mikey]

Apparently money from Adam King transfer will fund any players coming in. There would be uproar if those in charge of the game allowed it to happen.

"Apparently"??

A Yam told you that, didn't he?

[hfc rd]

I assume what will happen is Hearts will say "This is for our five guys who left in the summer" and the SPFL will just tell them it doesn't count if it wasn't done at the same time. Otherwise it really is just Hearts taking the piss (and losing that last ounce of sympathy anyone else had for them)


You're probably right.

[greenpaper55]

Don't believe anything you read on the STV website, the times they have got things wrong are legion. There is no way they could get away with this, remember each application is reviewed on a case by case basis.

[Aldo]

I posted this the other day but they are not interested in the League as they know they are all but down. They want players in for the LC semi v ICT. It's a simple as that.

I fear that if and it's a very big IF, this is allowed to happen then the SPFL better prepare themselves for one hell if a legal battle,

Also makes a mockery of the so called rules.

I for one will be very surprised if this is allowed to happen.

[Spike Mandela]

:agree:

I cannae see the SPFL letting them work that one, if it's still up tae the SPFL tae decide each on a case by case basis. I dinnae think they'll let them replace anybody that disnae leave this transfer windae. This will be about the 4th time the've tried tae take the piss, I can see the SPLF getting really hacked off with them..

With Doncaster in charge? The man who agreed to Sevco's transfer embargo starting AFTER the window shut. Yeah he'll stand firm.

[The_Todd]

With Doncaster in charge? The man who agreed to Sevco's transfer embargo starting AFTER the window shut. Yeah he'll stand firm.

Doncaster was CEO of the SPL at the time, what would he have had to do with an embargo on an SFL3 team?

[Just Alf]

Is it just me or is this transfer stuff confusing,can they get players in or not
Yes or no will suffice

Yes/no? ....if only!

Here's who the legalese was broken down for me by a lawyer type.

If a team loses a player through injury or they otherwise decide to leave (not accepting reduced wages etc) then the team in question can apply to have the squad position back filled. Part of the criteria is that there's no existing player in the remaining squad that can fill the position (why goalkeepers get mentioned I guess), the other point to note is that you can't "just get rid of someone" to create a gap, if that was taken to an extreme the Yams could bump all TWENTY FIVE of their 1st team squad and bring 25 in.

So short answer I suppose is "yes"

[Heisenberg]

"Apparently"??

A Yam told you that, didn't he?

STV journo on twitter.

[Saorsa]

With Doncaster in charge? The man who agreed to Sevco's transfer embargo starting AFTER the window shut. Yeah he'll stand firm.Have you always been the cheery, optimistic sort or has it taken years of practice?

[Aldo]

Or is this a case of the SPFL/Doncaster saying yip you can put each individual case forward but guess what

Get it roond ye.

[CropleyWasGod]

Doncaster was CEO of the SPL at the time, what would he have had to do with an embargo on an SFL3 team?

It's not even his call.

[Mikey]

STV journo on twitter.

A Yam STV journo :wink:

[The_Todd]

One in one out isn't an embargo, it's wheeling and dealing.

I do hope this is a sign they haven't learnt their lesson and start their promotion push completely bankrupt again.

[PatHead]

Or is this a case of the SPFL/Doncaster saying yip you can put each individual case forward but guess what

Get it roond ye.

In Aldo we trust

[Aldo]

In Aldo we trust

:-D

[The_Todd]

It's not even his call.

Basically what I was saying. Doncaster seems to be a convenient scapegoat for everyone.

[CropleyWasGod]

STV journo on twitter.

STV think VAT is deducted from wages.

It's been a while since I last said that... was getting anxious. :cb

[Barney McGrew]

The only thing I would ask is why Doncaster has suddenly changed his story about why they were allowed to sign Wilson in the summer.

The timing seems a bit too convenient and would give rise to them saying that they used those rules once and would only be allowing Hertz to do what they've done already.

[Waxy]

Cheating yams.Trying to sign ratchit and Driver ONLY to get to the league cup final.
Not for the glory....but for the money.Cheatin yams

[#FromTheCapital]

They are going to escape relegation now. Can't believe this.

Rudi Skacel - Third rate euro trash who only plays when the opposing team happen to be hibs. Hasn't played for over 6 months and is coming to the end of his career.

Andy Driver - :faf:

Escape relegation from the championship next season maybe

[ronaldo7]

I wouldnae worry about it bud. The semi in on Feb 2nd. They would have to be signed sometime in January which is not going to happen.

[CB_NO3]

People need to get stop getting worked up. The one in, one out will be from now and not when they released players. If that was the case every club in the world would go into administration then release your players, knowing you could re-sign them again x amount of months later. Also, they have to apply which is a rule every team can do in their current circumstances. The SFA will see that have over 24 players available to play on a weekly basis so they wont get to sign anyone IMO. The only way their application would be accepted as if they sold their keeper and had to sign an emergency replacement.

[Gustavo Fring]

they wont be able to sign until at least feb 1st - same weekend as the cup semi , and both need international clearance so wouldnt expect to see either to be in the team for it

[Mikey]

People need to get stop getting worked up.

:agree:


The only way their application would be accepted as if they sold their keeper and had to sign an emergency replacement.


:agree:

[Gustavo Fring]

People need to get stop getting worked up. The one in, one out will be from now and not when they released players.

the article says theyre tryin to get 5 in to replace the 5 players they released last june :rotflmao:

[hfc rd]

Are they entitled to make at least one signing since they have already allowed Adam King to join Swansea?

[Cabbage East]

They won't be signing either of those two has beens. Panic over :rolleyes:

[Gus Fring]

Some of you lot are worse than the posters on Sickbag.

Here's the facts:




The Yams are still under embargo. Absolutely nothing has changed on that front since the start of the season
The "One In, One Out" rule is at the discretion of the SPFL. No transfers have been authorised at this stage
This rule does not give Hearts free reign to boot as many players as they want and sign whoever they please. Talk of 5 players is utter pie in the sky. Each one will
If Hearts are allowed to sign players they will need to be on the same or lower wages.
Hearts are still 20 points behind Ross County with only 16 games left to play. Ross County still have a game in hand
Signing Skacel and Driver won't change #5. The 2 of them have scored a total of 5 goals between them since they played us in that Final
BDO still don't have any of the shares they need to complete a sale and money is running out.
They are all still a bunch of cheating, charity robbing, paedo employing, puddle drink morons.


There. Now if you're still running around like this :panic:because you bought everything the media have told you since teatime then give yourself a good slap across the face and GET A GRIP FFS!

[Saturdays Hero]

Some of you lot are worse than the posters on Sickbag.

Here's the facts:




The Yams are still under embargo. Absolutely nothing has changed on that front since the start of the season
The "One In, One Out" rule is at the discretion of the SPFL. No transfers have been authorised at this stage
This rule does not give Hearts free reign to boot as many players as they want and sign whoever they please. Talk of 5 players is utter pie in the sky. Each one will
If Hearts are allowed to sign players they will need to be on the same or lower wages.
Hearts are still 20 points behind Ross County with only 16 games left to play.
Signing Skacel and Driver won't change #5. The 2 of them have scored a total of 5 goals between them since they played us in that Final
BDO still don't have any of the shares they need to complete a sale and money is running out.
They are all still a bunch of cheating, charity robbing, paedo employing, puddle drink morons.


There. Now if you're still running around like this :panic:because you bought everything the media have told you since teatime then give yourself a good slap across the face and GET A GRIP FFS!

Pleasing 😄

[SaulGoodman]

Sorry but the last thing they need is Rudi and Driver :faf:

They'd need to sign 11 players to make any difference, they're rank rotten.

I say let them sign 'king' Rudi, so he can play his customary game against us (the only time a season he tries) and we will still pump them on the 29th.

[brog]

Apparently money from Adam King transfer will fund any players coming in. There would be uproar if those in charge of the game allowed it to happen.

If the King transfer goes through that would, per the STV logic, allow them 6 players in as King wasn't in the 5 "out " mentioned earlier. So 2 STV sources contradicting themselves, Scottish journalism at its finest again!

[CB_NO3]

Are they entitled to make at least one signing since they have already allowed Adam King to join Swansea?

Nope, but they are entitled to apply as every article has said. Am 99% sure they we would be refused the chance to sign someone as they have adequate cover so far with 24 senior players available. You only need to pick 11 to be able to fulfil a fixture.

[brog]

Some of you lot are worse than the posters on Sickbag.

Here's the facts:




The Yams are still under embargo. Absolutely nothing has changed on that front since the start of the season
The "One In, One Out" rule is at the discretion of the SPFL. No transfers have been authorised at this stage
This rule does not give Hearts free reign to boot as many players as they want and sign whoever they please. Talk of 5 players is utter pie in the sky. Each one will
If Hearts are allowed to sign players they will need to be on the same or lower wages.
Hearts are still 20 points behind Ross County with only 16 games left to play. Ross County still have a game in hand
Signing Skacel and Driver won't change #5. The 2 of them have scored a total of 5 goals between them since they played us in that Final
BDO still don't have any of the shares they need to complete a sale and money is running out.
They are all still a bunch of cheating, charity robbing, paedo employing, puddle drink morons.


There. Now if you're still running around like this :panic:because you bought everything the media have told you since teatime then give yourself a good slap across the face and GET A GRIP FFS!

Good man Bajillions! I do worry about some of our fellow posters.

[Gus Fring]

I missed a fact out and it's probably the most important of them all.

As of today Hearts have only submitteda request to sign ONE player. This happened on Friday. The SPFL board haven't considered it yet because they are waiting on a copy of the contract to confirm it's the same or lower terms.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I'm glad this thread has come back to some sense of reality. They'll no get to sign anyone apart from a keeper if McDonald is sold. It is that simple. Everything else is the MSM grasping at straws hoping to make a story where there's no one. Bajillions is correct in what he's said. Relax and watch them implode and then get relegated, with the same squad they have now.

[nribs]

I missed a fact out and it's probably the most important of them all.

As of today Hearts have only submitteda request to sign ONE player. This happened on Friday. The SPFL board haven't considered it yet because they are waiting on a copy of the contract to confirm it's the same or lower terms. the same as or lower terms than who though??

[Saorsa]

the same as or lower terms than who though??The player they claim he's replacing.

[nribs]

The player they claim he's replacing. cleared that up then cheers :)

[monktonharp]

I wouldnae worry about it bud. The semi in on Feb 2nd. They would have to be signed sometime in January which is not going to happen.:agree:beat me to it.

[Nomeancity]

Let them sign who they want now. They are gone, they need to win 7 more games than the team above them. Not going to happen. The quicker they get out of admin, the quicker they start racking up the debt, and the fun starts all over again. They never learn- they are already talking about how they are going to scoosh the championship with all their new players-which will be bought with cash they don't have. Next year is going to be even better watching them - kids in a sweetie shop.

[Nomeancity]

Let them sign who they want now. They are gone, they need to win 7 more games than the team above them. Not going to happen. The quicker they get out of admin, the quicker they start racking up the debt, and the fun starts all over again. They never learn- they are already talking about how they are going to scoosh the championship with all their new players-which will be bought with cash they don't have. Next year is going to be even better watching them - kids in a sweetie shop.

And I'm sick of listening to them going on about the injustice of it all - just let them sign some players. One less excuse they can use to avoid the truth.

[Ronniekirk]

Some of you lot are worse than the posters on Sickbag.

Here's the facts:




The Yams are still under embargo. Absolutely nothing has changed on that front since the start of the season
The "One In, One Out" rule is at the discretion of the SPFL. No transfers have been authorised at this stage
This rule does not give Hearts free reign to boot as many players as they want and sign whoever they please. Talk of 5 players is utter pie in the sky. Each one will
If Hearts are allowed to sign players they will need to be on the same or lower wages.
Hearts are still 20 points behind Ross County with only 16 games left to play. Ross County still have a game in hand
Signing Skacel and Driver won't change #5. The 2 of them have scored a total of 5 goals between them since they played us in that Final
BDO still don't have any of the shares they need to complete a sale and money is running out.
They are all still a bunch of cheating, charity robbing, paedo employing, puddle drink morons.


There. Now if you're still running around like this :panic:because you bought everything the media have told you since teatime then give yourself a good slap across the face and GET A GRIP FFS!
That's crystal clear .:top marksBut can I just chech how many pies in the sky they might be allowed ? :aok::rolleyes:

[Saorsa]

And I'm sick of listening to them going on about the injustice of it all - just let them sign some players. One less excuse they can use to avoid the truth.Aye, lets just dae away with the rules so the next team that does it can come along and say, aye well you let them away with it. They are suffering the consequences of their own actions.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Why does Doncaster keep casting up the Danny Wilson signing and relating it to the current situation? They were not in Administration when Wilson came in this time last year. Surely that makes it a completely different situation?!
A transfer embargo should mean just that. It shouldn't be one in one out. That's absolute nonsense. We're having to do one in one out, as most teams living within their means have to at this time of year. They shouldn't be given the same conditions as other teams whilst in Administration.

[Nomeancity]

Aye, lets just dae away with the rules so the next team that does it can come along and say, aye well you let them away with it. They are suffering the consequences of their own actions.

To be honest I'm past caring about the right and wrongs of the footballing side of the rules. They are gone so it makes no difference. What bugs me is how little it is mentioned that people lost their jobs in all this and businesses haven't been paid. Yet they think it's ok to spend money on players - if only the football rules would allow it. Imagine your a small business having to write off say £2k, then you hear they are looking to sign a player and pay him this a week!!

[Saorsa]

To be honest I'm past caring about the right and wrongs of the footballing side of the rules. They are gone so it makes no difference. What bugs me is how little it is mentioned that people lost their jobs in all this and businesses haven't been paid. Yet they think it's ok to spend money on players - if only the football rules would allow it. Imagine your a small business haven't to write off say £2k, then you hear they are looking to sign a player and pay him this a week!!I care about the rules, cheats need tae pay the penalty. I think the team they are playing in the cup semi-final might care too about them being allowed tae strengthen their team, don't you?

[micksoo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25710173

The quote from Doncaster suggests that they have already registered 10 players last summer using the one out one in rule. (If I am reading this correctly). With this in mind surely they can only apply to replace players who leave going forward.

There is no mention in the rules that the player coming in must be on less than the player going out. I doubt the administrator would sanction a considerable increase in wages with the risk if them running out if money.

[Dashing Bob S]

Some of you lot are worse than the posters on Sickbag.

Here's the facts:




The Yams are still under embargo. Absolutely nothing has changed on that front since the start of the season
The "One In, One Out" rule is at the discretion of the SPFL. No transfers have been authorised at this stage
This rule does not give Hearts free reign to boot as many players as they want and sign whoever they please. Talk of 5 players is utter pie in the sky. Each one will
If Hearts are allowed to sign players they will need to be on the same or lower wages.
Hearts are still 20 points behind Ross County with only 16 games left to play. Ross County still have a game in hand
Signing Skacel and Driver won't change #5. The 2 of them have scored a total of 5 goals between them since they played us in that Final
BDO still don't have any of the shares they need to complete a sale and money is running out.
They are all still a bunch of cheating, charity robbing, paedo employing, puddle drink morons.


There. Now if you're still running around like this :panic:because you bought everything the media have told you since teatime then give yourself a good slap across the face and GET A GRIP FFS!

Beautifully put as per usual. I'd like to folk concentrate more on the second last point. Hearts and the media will be forced to catch up with that one soon.

[Saorsa]

Beautifully put as per usual. I'd like to folk concentrate more on the second last point. Hearts and the media will be forced to catch up with that one soon.:agree:

[#FromTheCapital]

Why does Doncaster keep casting up the Danny Wilson signing and relating it to the current situation? They were not in Administration when Wilson came in this time last year. Surely that makes it a completely different situation?!
A transfer embargo should mean just that. It shouldn't be one in one out. That's absolute nonsense. We're having to do one in one out, as most teams living within their means have to at this time of year. They shouldn't be given the same conditions as other teams whilst in Administration.

Wilson was only supposed to be on loan until the end of last season but he signed for hearts after they went into administration. The reason they allowed it was because he was still on hearts books so there was no need for him to register with hearts.
I think Doncaster is trying to draw comparisons because although hearts weren't in admin this time last year they had an embargo in place which meant they could only sign under 21's on a 1 out 1 in basis. There's still no comparison with that situation and the current one though. Hearts are looking to register players such as Skacel and Driver when they're in admin, which is why this will NOT happen. The desperation is laughable, all they're doing is making bigger fools of themselves and setting their idiot fans up for more disappointment.

[Nomeancity]

I care about the rules, cheats need tae pay the penalty. I think the team they are playing in the cup semi-final might care too about them being allowed tae strengthen their team, don't you?

Fair point re cup semi. But I'm not being too serious about them signing players. Just trying to get across that they are so far behind that it makes no difference. But agree the rules are the rules and they shouldn't be allowed - and I'm confident they won't be.
You have to admit though that it in their complete delusion it is giving them a cause(albeit unjustified) that they can say they are being unfairly treated and if they could sign players they would have survived

[PatHead]

Can picture BDOs pitch to SPFL- "As things stand we don't have enough money to see out the season. We desperately need to sell a couple of players to raise cash so if we can sell Wilson and Adam King can we replace them with Driver and Big Nose. The added benefit of this is that the muppet supporters will turn up in their thousands helping us through to the end of the season."

Unfortunately I can see SPFL falling for it. The only good news is they are both boggin.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

"There is huge sympathy for the position that Hearts players, supporters and indeed administrators find themselves in". WTF. The players are getting paid to play football(stop laughing at the back). Most of us dreamed of that opportunity. It could be worse FFS!! The fans?? **** off. They've had 6 tough months to watch-which incidentally has still included two wins against Aberdeen, two derby wins, two cup wins on pens and a forthcoming semi final. They've had 30 years of watching players on the park that they couldn't afford. 10 years of Romanov, winning cups, derby wins, Europe etc and we should have sympathy as a result of 6 poor months!! **** off!! Administrators?? Have I read that right? Sympathy for guys getting paid £500 per hour for doing their job. Incredible

I also see in that report that Jackson has blamed Walkers injury on playing too many games. A broken foot due to playing too many games. Not because of a tackle or landing awkwardly. Because of playing too many games. I've said this once or twice before but seriously, **** off!!!

[Saorsa]

Fair point re cup semi. But I'm not being too serious about them signing players. Just trying to get across that they are so far behind that it makes no difference. But agree the rules are the rules and they shouldn't be allowed - and I'm confident they won't be.
You have to admit though that it in their complete delusion it is giving them a cause(albeit unjustified) that they can say they are being unfairly treated and if they could sign players they would have survivedThe fuds can say what they like, naebody except them will give a ****. If they hadnae broken the rules and cheated for years they would have survived, that's the real facts, their delusions mean **** all. They did and now they're getting their comeuppance. Tae quote any number of roasters on keechboak, "pleasing".

[Dashing Bob S]

The fuds can say what they like, naebody except them will give a ****. If they hadnae broken the rules and cheated for years they would have survived, that's the real facts, their delusions mean **** all. They did and now they're getting their comeuppance. Tae quote any number of roasters on keechboak, "pleasing".

Yep. Hopefully this pain is just a small downpayment on the justified splatterings yet to come.

[carnoustiehibee]

I wish I'd kept a list of all the lying, cheating and stealing hearts have done since romanov took over. An endless amount of shameless, deceitful, scaremongering propaganda

I feel sorry for the bairns getting dragged along to games and being forced to support that horrible club

[Spike Mandela]

Doncaster was CEO of the SPL at the time, what would he have had to do with an embargo on an SFL3 team?

He was part of the infamous '5 way agreement' on Sevco's negotiations to re-enter league which included the deferred transfer embargo.


Have you always been the cheery, optimistic sort or has it taken years of practice?

You better ****ing believe this Hearts **** is making me mad:grr::grr::grr: they just won't take their punishment aaaaaaarrrrggghhhhhh:devil:

[Spike Mandela]

Some of you lot are worse than the posters on Sickbag.

Here's the facts:




The Yams are still under embargo. Absolutely nothing has changed on that front since the start of the season
The "One In, One Out" rule is at the discretion of the SPFL. No transfers have been authorised at this stage
This rule does not give Hearts free reign to boot as many players as they want and sign whoever they please. Talk of 5 players is utter pie in the sky. Each one will
If Hearts are allowed to sign players they will need to be on the same or lower wages.
Hearts are still 20 points behind Ross County with only 16 games left to play. Ross County still have a game in hand
Signing Skacel and Driver won't change #5. The 2 of them have scored a total of 5 goals between them since they played us in that Final
BDO still don't have any of the shares they need to complete a sale and money is running out.
They are all still a bunch of cheating, charity robbing, paedo employing, puddle drink morons.


There. Now if you're still running around like this :panic:because you bought everything the media have told you since teatime then give yourself a good slap across the face and GET A GRIP FFS!

Bajillions do clubs register their entire squad and squad numbers with the SPFL at the start of the season?

If so any one in one out would surely only involve this squad and not last seasons squad which entered administration in June in the close season wouldn't it?

If they are allowed to replace the likes of Sutton who was made redundant and Zaliukas and Driver who were released from their contracts early, technically (though obviously unlikely in this case) they could be allowed to sign players on the ridiculous salaries that got Hearts into administration in the first place. It's a nonsense.

The SPFL should not have such fudges in their rules. An embargo should be an embargo and that's it.

[Gus Fring]

Bajillions do clubs register their entire squad and squad numbers with the SPFL at the start of the season?

If so any one in one out would surely only involve this squad and not last seasons squad which entered administration in June in the close season wouldn't it?

If they are allowed to replace the likes of Sutton who was made redundant and Zaliukas and Driver who were released early from their contracts early, technically (though not in this case) they could be allowed to sign players on the ridiculous salaries that got Hearts into administration in the first place. It's a nonsense.

The SPFL should not have such fudges in their rules. An embargo should be an embargo and that's it.

I think the close season is a grey area to the SPFL as it is neither deemed as this season or last season. Since Hearts have already made the request without anyone leaving yet I'm guessing those who have already left can be counted against the "one out".

I don't think BDO are stupid enough to sign someone on a wage that would cause the money to run out faster than it already is. Bryan Jackson will know that one player is not going to generate enough income to justify his wage and something like £7k a week is a big chunk of their wage budget.

We are probably looking at Skacel signing a deal that he see's him play for very little money, if any at all. I've been told he wants to retire playing for Hearts and that the Alloa deal was just a handy way of keeping him occupied until such times as Hearts could sign him. As (their) luck would have it they may be able to do it now. I haven't been able to confirm who the player is though, I'm basing my theory purely on the fact he was at the Hearts game on Saturday when Alloa were also playing.

[Spike Mandela]

I think the close season is a grey area to the SPFL as it is neither deemed as this season or last season. Since Hearts have already made the request without anyone leaving yet I'm guessing those who have already left can be counted against the "one out".

I don't think BDO are stupid enough to sign someone on a wage that would cause the money to run out faster than it already is. Bryan Jackson will know that one player is not going to generate enough income to justify his wage and something like £7k a week is a big chunk of their wage budget.

We are probably looking at Skacel signing a deal that he see's him play for very little money, if any at all. I've been told he wants to retire playing for Hearts and that the Alloa deal was just a handy way of keeping him occupied until such times as Hearts could sign him. As (their) luck would have it they may be able to do it now. I haven't been able to confirm who the player is though, I'm basing my theory purely on the fact he was at the Hearts game on Saturday when Alloa were also playing.

Ultimately then if they are allowed to sign players in this fashion then the embargo is meaningless. What is the point of it because all clubs entering administration lose players?:confused:

[Hibbibri]

That's crystal clear .:top marksBut can I just chech how many pies in the sky they might be allowed ? :aok::rolleyes:

One in one out I believe Ronnie :na na:

[gorgie greens]

Are they entitled to make at least one signing since they have already allowed Adam King to join Swansea?

If King is staying at the yams on a loan basis,how can he be replaced if he is still there:confused:

[itslegaltender]

If King is staying at the yams on a loan basis,how can he be replaced if he is still there:confused:

Wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of additional sponsorship behind the scenes to embellish the wages of the. New signings.

[Hibs07p]

"There is huge sympathy for the position that Hearts players, supporters and indeed administrators find themselves in". WTF. The players are getting paid to play football(stop laughing at the back). Most of us dreamed of that opportunity. It could be worse FFS!! The fans?? **** off. They've had 6 tough months to watch-which incidentally has still included two wins against Aberdeen, two derby wins, two cup wins on pens and a forthcoming semi final. They've had 30 years of watching players on the park that they couldn't afford. 10 years of Romanov, winning cups, derby wins, Europe etc and we should have sympathy as a result of 6 poor months!! **** off!! Administrators?? Have I read that right? Sympathy for guys getting paid £500 per hour for doing their job. Incredible

I also see in that report that Jackson has blamed Walkers injury on playing too many games. A broken foot due to playing too many games. Not because of a tackle or landing awkwardly. Because of playing too many games. I've said this once or twice before but seriously, **** off!!!

FFS man, dinnae sit on the fence, say what you mean. :cb

[Dibben]

If King is staying at the yams on a loan basis,how can he be replaced if he is still there:confused:

Surely if they sell him, then get him back on loan, that is one out one in already?

[Onion]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-chief-executive-david-southern-3020099?

And ..... we're off !

[#FromTheCapital]

Think I'm just going to ignore all media on this situation for a few weeks, it's really starting to get on my nerves. Hearts are a disgrace, fed up listening to them whining and moaning and then having the audacity to say they're taking everything on the chin. They are an embarrassment to themselves and football in general.

[SonOfTortolano]

Guaranteed if Satchel gets a deal his squad number will be sooooo predictable...

[matty_f]

Hibs at points this season have had no recognised full backs fit, and we were down to one senior striker for a while when heff got injured. We made do and played players out of position and brought in youth players. The yams should be expected to do the same.

I am sick of hearing how tight their squad is. They're talking about replacing a player that's hardly featured for them-they can't be that hard up.

Why are their players getting burned out but other team's youngsters aren't? Or youth players have played a huge number of games this season between the under 20 league and the East of Scotland league but they're not falling like flies. This burnt out pish is ridiculous and should be challenged.

They have enough players on their books to field a team. It might be a terrible team but that's what years and years of financial mismanagement brings you.

And all this guff about taking their punishment and not complaining... Deary me! Just because your sentence starts with "we're not complaining but, " doesn't make what follows any less of a complaint.

Yams. Go **** yourselves.

[rubber mal]

Southern said: “With everything that’s happened post-administration we’ve taken our medicine.

“We’ve not complained, we’ve not moaned, we’ve just carried on going."

Aye, OK.

[Ozyhibby]

'We've not complained, we've not moaned, we've just carried on going'

David Southern
14/1/14

[EdinMike]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-chief-executive-david-southern-3020099?

And ..... we're off !

“We’ve not complained, we’ve not moaned, we’ve just carried on going."

Urgghhh...

[Mikey]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-chief-executive-david-southern-3020099?

And ..... we're off !

Given his track record why would anyone believe anything that David Southern says?

[WeeWendy]

I don't understand how they can say that bringing in new players now is not going to harm individual teams - surely any point they take off any other team in the league (or any goal they score) could affect their final standing in the league which in turn could affect European places/income?

[QMU-1875]

I genuinely don't get why the media are siding with hearts so strongly on this, it's bizarre. Their players are not at risk of a burnout, they are professionals and so should be fit. The only problem for them is that they are gash. They celebrated the signing embargo over a fine, why do they continue to moan and yet still say they are not moaning but "taking their medicine"... This is a joke and our media needs to actually address it!

[bawheid]

As I posted yesterday, the problem is that the medicine they've taken clearly hasn't worked so far. They're like a smack addict desperate for one last hit. Just one more score Rents, then they'll stop, promise...

No, they need a lot more medicine. It should be force fed them until they learn some humility, contrition and most importantly, fiscal prudence.

[Ronniekirk]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-chief-executive-david-southern-3020099?

And ..... we're off !
It's a complete farce They have now had more media exposure about an application that Doncaster says they were never entitled to make so it wasn't even heard yesterday

for Southern to say we haven't complained and we haven't moaned is hey another rewriting of the situation.They have a systematic campaign which as this article now reveals is about putting the threat ,sorry marker down that they might not at some point in the future be able to field a team to lplay out fixtures .So now they are using Blackmail Tactics.

lLocke is allegedly down to paper thin squad.. A bit like all their excuses Paper Thin ,expect they are now filling the papers .agree with last Poster I am taking some time out from reading about this until substantive decision is made at a future meeting as this bunch of cheats just try to go on cheating and Breaking Hearts with there Paper Thin pleas for Clemency They should play the Clash song Rudi can't Fail .The Jambo fans were all over him getting his autograph on Saturday or maybe that was them signing more pledges to pay his non wages . The only bit of the article I agreed with was when he said it will make no difference we are doomed Ok admit I am tKing some poetic license with is this bit but the word Doomed has a certain Finality to it:na na: And
DOOMSDAY Will be upon them soon enough.:stirrer::pray::chop::bye:

[the_ginger_hibee]

Ah self sufficient Southern.

The brass-esd of brass necks down Gorgie way and that's saying something. Only Vlad riding in on a sub claiming he's came to save the club could top Southerns downright cheek to stay in his job.

[kaimendhibs]

Given his track record why would anyone believe anything that David Southern says?

This!


Sent from my iphone

[greenginger]

I don't understand how they can say that bringing in new players now is not going to harm individual teams - surely any point they take off any other team in the league (or any goal they score) could affect their final standing in the league which in turn could affect European places/income?


Yep, and with 11 fixtures before the split some teams will play them home and some at the PBS. Also if the " strengthening" is not allowed before 1st February, St Johnston , St Mirren and Ross County won't have to play the New Hearts at all before the split.

Not an even playing field Mr Southern.

[blackpoolhibs]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-chief-executive-david-southern-3020099?

And ..... we're off !


This clown told the football world that Hearts were self sufficient, only days before they went into administration.

If he told me it was Tuesday i'd check the calendar.


Guys an erse.

[Eternal Hibbie]

This clown told the football world that Hearts were self sufficient, only days before they went into administration.

If he told me it was Tuesday i'd check the calendar.


Guys an erse.

But he appears to get away with it time after time.

[The_Todd]

Do they call him "Mr Southern" on Kickback? I bet they do.

[Mellow Hibee]

I genuinely don't get why the media are siding with hearts so strongly on this, it's bizarre. Their players are not at risk of a burnout, they are professionals and so should be fit. The only problem for them is that they are gash. They celebrated the signing embargo over a fine, why do they continue to moan and yet still say they are not moaning but "taking their medicine"... This is a joke and our media needs to actually address it!

The Media side with whatever will sell papers. "Hearts told to abide by rules they agreed to" isn't much of a story, so they build a story with the aid of ridiculous quotes from the likes of Southern, they hint at Skachel coming back and the punters either get excited or angry; either way they sell a few more papers. That's all they know and I think that they are adding to the dispointment comming Hearts way when they get told to stop making idiots of themselves with appeals.

In any case - does anyone remember the smugness when they added Wilson to the wage bill using a loophole so that they could eh, avoid relegation?

:tee hee:

[Onion]

As I posted yesterday, the problem is that the medicine they've taken clearly hasn't worked so far. They're like a smack addict desperate for one last hit. Just one more score Rents, then they'll stop, promise...

No, they need a lot more medicine. It should be force fed them until they learn some humility, contrition and most importantly, fiscal prudence.

:top marks This.

The Yams are incapable of helping themselves, so it is up the rest of us (incl the SPFL) to explain to these children how a normal club and business should behave. This is little different to Sevco when the Huns, the media and SFA were incapable to doing the right thing, it was the fans who showed them the way.

[Onion]

The Media side with whatever will sell papers. "Hearts told to abide by rules they agreed to" isn't much of a story, so they build a story with the aid of ridiculous quotes from the likes of Southern, they hint at Skachel coming back and the punters either get excited or angry; either way they sell a few more papers. That's all they know and I think that they are adding to the dispointment comming Hearts way when they get told to stop making idiots of themselves with appeals.

In any case - does anyone remember the smugness when they added Wilson to the wage bill using a loophole so that they could eh, avoid relegation?

:tee hee:

IMHO the risk the Yams are running now is that all this bleating is more likely to fire up their SPFL opponents when they come to play them. Had they just gone about their business and "taken their medicine", they may have built a little sympathy for their plight from some other clubs. Instead, expect hard matches and relentless humpings on their way to Div 1.

[Just Alf]

Had another chat with my lawyer matey (he's worked on contracts with the SPL in the dim distant past so has a fair key decent view of things (notwithstanding an SPFL fudge factor being added of course))

He's said

1) Yams lose a player (injury/rejected contract - redundancy or selling isn't in scope as that's self inflicted and employment law impacts the redundancy element)
2) Yams request 1 out 1 in dispensation
3) Authorities review remaining registered player pool
4) if there is someone who can cover the lost position then application is rejected (being sh*te in the position isn't a reason to allow a registration)

Bryan also said 2) cannot come before 1) .... Deemed self inflicted
There is NO provision to force the replacement to be cheaper (it was expected pressures of admin would cover that)

One last thing, he's not an active fan but when pushed he used to say he was a Jambo (more of an egg chaser these days)!

[The Sea-gull]

As I posted yesterday, the problem is that the medicine they've taken clearly hasn't worked so far. They're like a smack addict desperate for one last hit. Just one more score Rents, then they'll stop, promise...

No, they need a lot more medicine. It should be force fed them until they learn some humility, contrition and most importantly, fiscal prudence.

This is spot on. They were exactly like an addict in recovery at first. "We've made some mistakes. It's our own fault. We have to look at ourselves and deal with the consequences and get ourselves back on our feet."

Trouble is it has been worse than they thought it was going to be and being "sober" is not as easy to handle as they thought. I suspect Southern et al plus most of the fans thought it would be a tough season but they had some of the best young players in Scotland, a loyal and passionate support and their united spirit and the fearless play of the kids would see the 15 points clawed back in no time and their would be a team in the league worse than them over 38 games and even if, worse case scenario, they were in the play off the fact that they are such a big club meant they would win it.

They probably even thought that even if they had a bad first half of the season, the finances would all be sorted and they would be able to sign some big players in January to get them firing through the second half of the season.

The reality has been bleak. They are now in a position where they are finding the sheer embarrassment of geting beat every week too hard to take. This wasn't supposed to happen. This wasn't going to happen. But it has so they are now desparately rolling the dice just to see if they can pull out all the stops to at least go down without losing almost every week. They want to sign a few "legends" so that the crowds in the remaining weeks of the season don't drop to embarrassing levels. Not that they would report them correctly. If they get crowds of 6k it will still go down as 12,382. Trouble is they won't get the money that 12,382 fans bring in on match day and this will hamper their chances of getting out of admin and/or having a "fighting fund" for next seasons's "Championsip charge"

The fact that they are in a league cup semi has a lot to do with it too. They'll be thinking at least if they get relegated and get horsed every week in the league, they can go down with a cup and give it the old "even when the mighty, the famous HOMFC get relegated amdist all sorts of unfair handicaps, we still manage to win more cups than the Hobos".

[Golden Bear]

All these latest rumblings suggest that there is a growing realism across in the dark side that the Administration process is going to rumble on for the foreseeable future.

It's death by a thousand cuts and no amount of sticking plaster solutions will resolve their problems.

It's a shame, a real shame for the poor wee lambs.

Heh heh.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

“We’ve not complained, we’ve not moaned, we’ve just carried on going."

Urgghhh...

That medicine is lower league football and they clearly do NOT intend on having to drop down at any costs.

Lessons learned? NONE.

Those other clubs in similar situations in the past must be very angry.

Someone at Hearts clearly knows how to work the system. If it were Jackson then why didn't he do same for other clubs in the past?

Dirty, horrible cheating bassas.

Let's hope they drop down with all their golden nuggets on board. Revenge will then be VERY sweet!

[Eternal Hibbie]

All these latest rumblings suggest that there is a growing realism across in the dark side that the Administration process is going to rumble on for the foreseeable future.

It's death by a thousand cuts and no amount of sticking plaster solutions will resolve their problems.

It's a shame, a real shame for the poor wee lambs.

Heh heh.

Or maybe they are just going to cheat, lie and squirm their way out of the worse case scenario for them, beating ICT in the process on their way to a cup final. :thumbdown:

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[Saorsa]

'We've not complained, we've not moaned, we've just carried on going'

David Southern
14/1/14Aye, never heard them once right enough :faf: what a ****in' tool. You've missed out his middle name though, it's

David 'self-sufficient' Southern

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Just noticed too that if they do re-sign the desperados, then they will be allowed to play in cup semi as it's 2nd February, the day after the SFA embargo sanctions are lifted. You couldn't script it!

I so hope ICT and Yogi hump them at the Holy Ground :-)

[CallumLaidlaw]

Just noticed too that if they do re-sign the desperados, then they will be allowed to play in cup semi as it's 2nd February, the day after the SFA embargo sanctions are lifted. You couldn't script it!

I so hope ICT and Yogi hump them at the Holy Ground :-)

Might see if I can get a ticket in the ICT end :greengrin

[K-Zazu]

Their starting to piss me off, I wish they would just **** of and die !