2020-21 season non-Hibs games thread

[wookie70]

🤣🤣🤣. Lennons most infuriating trait. Was reading how king kenny took all the stresses of being Liverpool manager on himself and told the players to just express themselves which led to him resigning.One day Lennon needs to look in the mirror and accepts his responsibilities when it goes wrong.
When he looks in the mirror after a defeat he sees Flo

[GreenCastle]

Is that true? Lennon spent £11.4m this season, £18.4m the previous season and £13m the season before.

How much did Celtic generate as a club during these times ?

Much more than they spent.

I also said recruitment has been poor - the wages and fees they spent on dross this season has been one of the worst windows they have had for a long time.

[hibbysam]

I didn’t say he wasn’t backed.

I said the board hasn’t reinvested. Reinvested over the years with all the ££ they have taken in from selling players plus all the other ££ Celtic generate.

Tierney was £25 million for example which is about half of the fees you mention above.

Probably to make up for the fact they failed to make the champions league group stages for 3 years on the bounce resulting in having to replace that money from sales.

[hibbysam]

How much did Celtic generate as a club during these times ?

Much more than they spent.

I also said recruitment has been poor - the wages and fees they spent on dross this season has been one of the worst windows they have had for a long time.

They’ve just announced fairly significant losses for the first 6 months of this season. Should he have been given even more money?

[GreenCastle]

Lennon has wasted money on rubbish. But why hasn't he been sacked? It just makes no sense, given the terrible results. At any club of a comparable size he would have been sacked, so what's going on? I'm baffled.

Who would want to come in now and take it over ?

Plus payoff to Lennon during a Covid season.

Any sane manager looking in will let the storm pass and fresh start in summer.

Plus while many think it’s a big job - many managers down south will be on much more ££.

The issue they have will be selling STs as Celtic fans seem to be raging and boycotting of a change isn’t made. Again covid may do the board a favour as no rush to get them on sale.

[hibbysam]

I didn’t say he wasn’t backed.

I said the board hasn’t reinvested. Reinvested over the years with all the ££ they have taken in from selling players plus all the other ££ Celtic generate.

Tierney was £25 million for example which is about half of the fees you mention above.

Last season they spent £20m of the £24m they got for Tierney, and made a £0.1m profit.

This season they’ve lost over £6m in the first 6 months after spending £10m+ on players.

[mayo hibee]

Lennon has wasted money on rubbish. But why hasn't he been sacked? It just makes no sense, given the terrible results. At any club of a comparable size he would have been sacked, so what's going on? I'm baffled.

Whoever is coming in will want a clean slate and no association with the current season. The league is gone, they assume (probably correctly) that they won't fall lower than second and the cup won't be played so no point sacking him now really. Lawwell is going so it doesn't matter to him at this stage anyway - he won't be there when the fans come back into the stadium so they won't need to bother with the misspelled banners.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m not convinced Gerrard will stay much longer when Rangers win the league - could Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen all have different managers next season ?!!

Gerrard will want a shot at the Champions League.

[GreenCastle]

They’ve just announced fairly significant losses for the first 6 months of this season. Should he have been given even more money?

How much did he spend in January ?

[hibbysam]

Gerrard will want a shot at the Champions League.

And I don’t think Klopp will stay beyond next season. Gerrard will have had conversations around that already.

[hibbysam]

How much did he spend in January ?

They spent over £10m on this season alone. The league was done in January, they were out of Europe, therefore it would be a waste of money. The damage was done by then. You said they never reinvested the Tierney money when their accounts showed they did.

[GreenCastle]

Gerrard will want a shot at the Champions League.

Who would have predicted several months ago Klopp possibly not in CL and Gerrard managing in it !

It’s a fair point - will look better on his CV with CL experience - though don’t forget he hasn’t won a knockout cup yet in Scotland and St Mirren knocked them out League Cup. An improved Celtic and slow start to next season / not making Champions league and he could be gone by Xmas.

[GreenCastle]

They spent over £10m on this season alone. The league was done in January, they were out of Europe, therefore it would be a waste of money. The damage was done by then. You said they never reinvested the Tierney money when their accounts showed they did.

Your not making sense to what I’m posting.

I know the didn’t spend in January which answers your point about not backing him in January.

I didn’t say they didn’t reinvest the Tierney money - I said that was one example - but the club generate much more money not just from transfer fees alone.

I will leave it there as if you talk to any Celtic fan they will tell you the same thing and that was they saw all of this coming ages ago.

[SHODAN]

Neil Lennon is a fantastic manager and you're all just a bunch of Kamberis for thinking otherwise. :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Magpie]

Neil Lennon is a fantastic manager and you're all just a bunch of Kamberis for thinking otherwise. :grr: :grr: :grr:

He’s having a terrible season but his record as manager is pretty good, he also did well with us for 2 years. Whether he had good players or not, you can’t take his medals and achievements away from him.

[hibbysam]

Your not making sense to what I’m posting.

I know the didn’t spend in January which answers your point about not backing him in January.

I didn’t say they didn’t reinvest the Tierney money - I said that was one example - but the club generate much more money not just from transfer fees alone.

I will leave it there as if you talk to any Celtic fan they will tell you the same thing and that was they saw all of this coming ages ago.

They made a £0.1m profit last season - ie they reinvested almost every penny that came in the door. Previous seasons to that are irrelevant as they won the league every year so they obviously invested enough.

This season they are losing ****loads of money, therefore they haven’t just reinvested, they’re spending way more than they made.

He didn’t need backed in January, the league was done.

You referenced Tierney in regards to the amount they spent this year only being half of that. In the year they sold Tierney they reinvested all but £3m of his fee, and every penny of the money the club made.

[B.H.F.C]

Who would have predicted several months ago Klopp possibly not in CL and Gerrard managing in it !

It’s a fair point - will look better on his CV with CL experience - though don’t forget he hasn’t won a knockout cup yet in Scotland and St Mirren knocked them out League Cup. An improved Celtic and slow start to next season / not making Champions league and he could be gone by Xmas.

He’s done well in the Europa League and got a chance to get a bit further. If he could get in to the Champions League, I think that European experience would be more attractive to potential employers than a domestic trophy up here.

Think he’s the type of guy who backs himself so he’ll fancy giving it a go. Hope he fails miserably, obviously.

[hibbysam]

He’s done well in the Europa League and got a chance to get a bit further. If he could get in to the Champions League, I think that European experience would be more attractive to potential employers than a domestic trophy up here.

Think he’s the type of guy who backs himself so he’ll fancy giving it a go. Hope he fails miserably, obviously.

In a way, however Rangers are already light years ahead of us again, so if them doing well in Europe gives Hibs extra opportunity I’m all for it. We just have to make sure it’s us that is benefiting from it.

[Magpie]

The foul throw leading to Leicester’s second goal 😭 how did the officials not spot that 😂

[easty]

Brighton absolutely battering Palace.

1-1, but Palace have been really poor. 67 mins played, the Palace goal was a lovely wee finish, but it’s been the only shot and only touch of the ball they’ve had in Brighton’s box the whole game.

[SJNB Hibby]

Brighton absolutely battering Palace.

1-1, but Palace have been really poor. 67 mins played, the Palace goal was a lovely wee finish, but it’s been the only shot and only touch of the ball they’ve had in Brighton’s box the whole game.

Palace fan, but theyre awful----year after year, get safe of relegation then go on vacation. Where's the Don Rogers, Stevie Kembers and Charlie Cooke's of yesteryear...Oh I'm getting old:dunno:

[SJNB Hibby]

palace fan, but theyre awful----year after year, get safe of relegation then go on vacation. Where's the don rogers, stevie kembers and charlie cooke's of yesteryear...oh i'm getting old:dunno:

omfg!!!!!!

[easty]

Benteke volleys in the winner! 94th min.

Robbery.

[jgl07]

The worst defence of a Premiership title was in 2016-17 when Leicester finished 12th.

What odds are Liverpool to finish 13th? :greengrin

If you include the old First Division, Manchester City hold the record. They won the title in 1936-37 and were relegated the following season despite scoring more goals than they conceded.

[Ray_]

Palace fan, but theyre awful----year after year, get safe of relegation then go on vacation. Where's the Don Rogers, Stevie Kembers and Charlie Cooke's of yesteryear...Oh I'm getting old:dunno:

Not forgetting Gerry McQueen, Willie Wallace and Yogi Hughes.

They were much better in the Allison/Veners years, I remember 17yo Kenny Sansom giving Des Bremner a roasting when Hibs played them at Selhurst Park, in Feb 1978, although Ally McLeod scored the games only goal on the stroke of half-time.

[Paul1642]

Lennon has chucked this season for Celtic however rangers aren’t getting enough credit IMO. They have 2 more points after 30 games than Celtic got last season (30 game season).

[Since452]

Brighton absolutely battering Palace.

1-1, but Palace have been really poor. 67 mins played, the Palace goal was a lovely wee finish, but it’s been the only shot and only touch of the ball they’ve had in Brighton’s box the whole game.

Can't believe someone watched 67 minutes of Brighton v Crystal Palace. Fair play.

[JimBHibees]

Can't believe someone watched 67 minutes of Brighton v Crystal Palace. Fair play.

One of the best games I have seen recently Brighton were superb

[Lancs Harp]

If you include the old First Division, Manchester City hold the record. They won the title in 1936-37 and were relegated the following season despite scoring more goals than they conceded.

Not only that they were the top flights highest scorers. In that crazy season only 16 points separated the top club from the bottom club (two points for a win in those days of course).

[Onion]

Lennon has chucked this season for Celtic however rangers aren’t getting enough credit IMO. They have 2 more points after 30 games than Celtic got last season (30 game season).

Idea of giving that disgusting stain on fair sport credit for anything makes me retch.

They've tracked down the coaching video for their 2016 Cup losing team

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56167027

[hibsbollah]

Idea of giving that disgusting stain on fair sport credit for anything makes me retch.

They've tracked down the coaching video for their 2016 Cup losing team

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56167027

I think the object should be commended for the restraint he displayed under extreme provocation.

[jacomo]

He’s done well in the Europa League and got a chance to get a bit further. If he could get in to the Champions League, I think that European experience would be more attractive to potential employers than a domestic trophy up here.

Think he’s the type of guy who backs himself so he’ll fancy giving it a go. Hope he fails miserably, obviously.


Champions League income may delay the expected fire sale at Ibrox this summer. So a good chance Gerrard could stay, yes.

Otherwise why would he stick around if his best players are sold? The club have admitted they need transfer income to balance the books. Gerrard could do a Guardiola and take a year out to recuperate before taking his next job.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Leeds 1 Southampton 0 Bamford

[Ron D Hibbie]

Leeds 1 Southampton 0 Bamford

Grimsby 1 crawley 0. Filipe morais. A blast from the past.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Grimsby 1 crawley 0. Filipe morais. A blast from the past.


must be in his 50's by now surely :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scotland ladies brought back down to earth in Larnaca Scotland 0 Portugal 2, even though they "battered" them :(

[Kato]

rangers aren’t getting enough credit IMO.

Diddums

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Leeds 2 Southampton 0 after 76 mins



Birmingham 1 Norwich 1 after 38 mins

[KingPat4]

Morais is married to a Musselburgh girl.

[cabbageandribs1875]

3-0 Leeds FT up to 10th

i can see the Brazilian Raphinha attracting some big bids in the summer


ICT 0 Alloa 1 HT

[cannastar]

peterbotough midfielder samme szmodics scores again. iv put this up before we could get him for a decent fee the boy is on fire could be taking a chance on a lot worse.

[HibbyAndy]

3-1 Norwich

Proper run club

[easty]

1-0 Chelsea

Giroud. Beautiful finish.

[easty]

peterbotough midfielder samme szmodics scores again. iv put this up before we could get him for a decent fee the boy is on fire could be taking a chance on a lot worse.

Peterborough look like they’ll go up...so I’d say we have somewhere close to no chance of getting him.

[04Sauzee]

Peterborough look like they’ll go up...so I’d say we have somewhere close to no chance of getting him.

Plus he's contracted until 2024

[Magpie]

Wonderful goal by Dele Alli, far from finished.

[MWHIBBIES]

Wonderful goal by Dele Alli, far from finished.

Surprised hes even playing. Been dreadful for so long now. He'll have to do a bit more than score in a tie thats already over to impress Jose i think.

[Magpie]

Surprised hes even playing. Been dreadful for so long now. He'll have to do a bit more than score in a tie thats already over to impress Jose i think.

Only 24 years old, was immense for his first 2 years in the Premier League, winning PFA Young Player of the Year on both occasions. There’s a player in there, the fact he’s started the last two European games and made an appearance off the bench on the weekend suggests he’s very much a part of Mourinho’s plans.

[Billy Whizz]

St Mirren v Motherwell about to ko

[MWHIBBIES]

Only 24 years old, was immense for his first 2 years in the Premier League, winning PFA Young Player of the Year on both occasions. There’s a player in there, the fact he’s started the last two European games and made an appearance off the bench on the weekend suggests he’s very much a part of Mourinho’s plans.

I think Mourinho is just resting his important players.

[blackpoolhibs]

The guy thats just came on for Wolfsburg looked about 3 stone overweight. :faf:

[DaveF]

St Mirren v Motherwell about to ko

The very definition of a scrap but the 'well commentary duo are saying that their performance is much improved compared to the last couple of games. 15 to go and 0-0

[DaveF]

'well hit the post. I didn't realise they had the winger Roberts on loan from Hearts.

[Billy Whizz]

'well hit the post. I didn't realise they had the winger Roberts on loan from Hearts.

So a step up for Roberts

[Squealing pig]

So a step up for Roberts

Got slated on a view from the terrace as most negative winger ever

[The 90+2]

This game is utter pish

[Magpie]

This game is utter pish

Patiently waiting for the Champions League theme tune.

[Unseen work]

Centre/attacking mid isn’t a position we’re light on but I’ve always been impressed with Jamie McGrath of guess for it.....St Mirren.

9 goals in 35 from midfield this season his his first season in Scottish football.

24 years old.

He’s quite big, strong and athletic for the attacking midfield position too.

Reminds me a bit of David Turnbull.

[DaveF]

This game is utter pish

That's being very kind. Completely forgettable with the standout highlight being the rain.

[Billy Whizz]

Centre/attacking mid isn’t a position we’re light on but I’ve always been impressed with Jamie McGrath of guess for it.....St Mirren.

9 goals in 35 from midfield this season his his first season in Scottish football.

24 years old.

He’s quite big, strong and athletic for the attacking midfield position too.

Reminds me a bit of David Turnbull.

I agree, been watching his progress this season, although he’s scored a few penalties

[The 90+2]

That's being very kind. Completely forgettable with the standout highlight being the rain.

My thoughts exactly funny enough. Fancy Atalanta now.

[The 90+2]

Patiently waiting for the Champions League theme tune.

More like the river city theme tune.

[Sir David Gray]

So that's probably Motherwell knocked out of the race for the final top 6 place (Livingston's not officially safe yet but I'm assuming they will do enough.

It's now one place up for grabs with three teams still in contention - St Mirren, Dundee Utd and St Johnstone.

Remaining fixtures;

St Mirren

Ross County (h)
Rangers (a)
Hamilton (a)

Dundee Utd

Kilmarnock (a)
Celtic (h)
Aberdeen (h)

St Johnstone

Hamilton (a)
Hibs (h)
Ross County (h)

My tip is St Johnstone to make it.

[we are hibs]

Thats never a red for Atalanta

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[hibbysam]

So that's probably Motherwell knocked out of the race for the final top 6 place (Livingston's not officially safe yet but I'm assuming they will do enough.

It's now one place up for grabs with three teams still in contention - St Mirren, Dundee Utd and St Johnstone.

Remaining fixtures;

St Mirren

Ross County (h)
Rangers (a)
Hamilton (a)

Dundee Utd

Kilmarnock (a)
Celtic (h)
Aberdeen (h)

St Johnstone

Hamilton (a)
Hibs (h)
Ross County (h)

My tip is St Johnstone to make it.

St Mirren easy.

[The 90+2]

Ref will go card happy guaranteed real get a man sent off.

[Since452]

So that's probably Motherwell knocked out of the race for the final top 6 place (Livingston's not officially safe yet but I'm assuming they will do enough.

It's now one place up for grabs with three teams still in contention - St Mirren, Dundee Utd and St Johnstone.

Remaining fixtures;

St Mirren

Ross County (h)
Rangers (a)
Hamilton (a)

Dundee Utd

Kilmarnock (a)
Celtic (h)
Aberdeen (h)

St Johnstone

Hamilton (a)
Hibs (h)
Ross County (h)

My tip is St Johnstone to make it.

Like to see St Mirren take it. What a job Goodwin has done there.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i really must look to see if any scottish footy is on, glad it ended 0-0 :)

[Sir David Gray]

St Mirren easy.

Can't see it personally.

[Lancs Harp]

Champions League final as a footy fan has to be a Bayern v City final if the draw works out. Head and shoulders above anyone else at the moment.

[hibbysam]

Champions League final as a footy fan has to be a Bayern v City final if the draw works out. Head and shoulders above anyone else at the moment.

City - PSG.

[Lancs Harp]

City - PSG.

PSG are a good team but quite honestly not in the same league as City and Bayern. Even struggling a bit in their on league by their own standards. Famous last words I know but there's nothing in Italy and Spain, PSG are good and Liverpool are a loose canon in Europe sometimes but as a footy fan would love to see the present Bayern and City teams going at it for me clearly Europes best at the mo.

[Hibernia&Alba]

City 2-0 up; win number 19 on the spin on the way. Incredible form.

[Magpie]

City 2-0 up; win number 19 on the spin on the way. Incredible form.

Different class. Quadruple is well and truly on.

[hibbysam]

PSG are a good team but quite honestly not in the same league as City and Bayern. Even struggling a bit in their on league by their own standards. Famous last words I know but there's nothing in Italy and Spain, PSG are good and Liverpool are a loose canon in Europe sometimes but as a footy fan would love to see the present Bayern and City teams going at it for me clearly Europes best at the mo.

Bayern are neck and neck with the side that just got hammered by Liverpool. Atletico are flying in Spain yet got hammered by a struggling Chelsea side. PSG, with Neymar back, are as good a side as any in the competition.

[Lancs Harp]

Atalanta 0 Real Madrid 0

Atalanta have been down to 10 men since the 17th minute

[Lancs Harp]

Late goal for Real Madrid. 1 up in Atalanta.

[JimBHibees]

Ref in Real game laughably fails to punish Casemiro for blatant dive when on a yellow. Quelle surprise

[Lancs Harp]

Bayern are neck and neck with the side that just got hammered by Liverpool. Atletico are flying in Spain yet got hammered by a struggling Chelsea side. PSG, with Neymar back, are as good a side as any in the competition.

ok fella :wink: Its all about opinions, we'll see come final day. But by your own reckoning PSG are third in a moderate French league.

[JimBHibees]

Bayern are neck and neck with the side that just got hammered by Liverpool. Atletico are flying in Spain yet got hammered by a struggling Chelsea side. PSG, with Neymar back, are as good a side as any in the competition.

How did Athletico get hammered it was 1 0 and they are still in the tie

[Lancs Harp]

How did Athletico get hammered it was 1 0 and they are still in the tie

To be fair mate, score wise yes but Chelsea were so far on top it was untrue. Atletico played most of the match with 6 across the back. It was totally one way traffic. Spain is weak this year by their own standards and if Atletico is the best they have it isnt saying much.

[hibbysam]

How did Athletico get hammered it was 1 0 and they are still in the tie

It was 1 going on more. 0 shots on target.

[hibbysam]

ok fella :wink: Its all about opinions, we'll see come final day. But by your own reckoning PSG are third in a moderate French league.

Of course they are, however that was me replying to you saying PSG are struggling in the league, Bayern aren’t setting the heather alight in a moderate Bundesliga either. Most top leagues this year have been extremely poor. It is about opinions, and for me PSG with Neymar back are as good as any in the competition.

[JimBHibees]

It was 1 going on more. 0 shots on target.

They are a defensive team though think they are still in the tie

[Magpie]

They are a defensive team though think they are still in the tie

It’s far from over. They scored three goals at Anfield last season.

[CMurdoch]

So that's probably Motherwell knocked out of the race for the final top 6 place (Livingston's not officially safe yet but I'm assuming they will do enough.

It's now one place up for grabs with three teams still in contention - St Mirren, Dundee Utd and St Johnstone.

Remaining fixtures;

St Mirren

Ross County (h)
Rangers (a)
Hamilton (a)

Dundee Utd

Kilmarnock (a)
Celtic (h)
Aberdeen (h)

St Johnstone

Hamilton (a)
Hibs (h)
Ross County (h)

My tip is St Johnstone to make it.

st Johnstone are the form team but I think St Mirren are favourites given their current 3 point advantage. Their injuries have caught up with them in recent times and probably as a result they seem to be drawing all of their games so need a win next time out against Ross County at home to steady the ship.

[Crunchie]

Like to see St Mirren take it. What a job Goodwin has done there.

Our very own Danny Lennon was doing well there and got the sack, he had them in as stable a position as they're entitled to be and won a trophy.
Goodwin won't be able to meet Fitzpatrick's lofty ambitions.

[Crunchie]

Different class. Quadruple is well and truly on.
I'd love to see them do it but think they'll win 2 at most.

[Sir David Gray]

st Johnstone are the form team but I think St Mirren are favourites given their current 3 point advantage. Their injuries have caught up with them in recent times and probably as a result they seem to be drawing all of their games so need a win next time out against Ross County at home to steady the ship.

I can see St Johnstone picking up 7 points from their remaining games meaning that St Mirren will need to beat Ross County and Hamilton in order to finish above them (I've assumed they'll get nothing at Ibrox) which I don't think they will do.

It will be really tight.

[hibsbollah]

To be fair mate, score wise yes but Chelsea were so far on top it was untrue. Atletico played most of the match with 6 across the back. It was totally one way traffic. Spain is weak this year by their own standards and if Atletico is the best they have it isnt saying much.

Someone said that Atleti are ‘flying’ earlier, but they’re really not. Losing to Levante, dropping points to Celta Vigo and poor Granada side. Also playing attacking midfielder (Llorente) in Trippiers position and Carrasco also not been fit. No clean sheets in 7 very weird for a Simeone team. Pundits were widely tipping Chelsea to win this.

[CMurdoch]

Our very own Danny Lennon was doing well there and got the sack, he had them in as stable a position as they're entitled to be and won a trophy.
Goodwin won't be able to meet Fitzpatrick's lofty ambitions.

I think Fitzpatrick will be delighted with 6th although it will make little difference this season..
The are 2nd top of their tier after Livingston.
Their glass ceiling is 5th and probably 6th once Hearts return.

[hibbysam]

Someone said that Atleti are ‘flying’ earlier, but they’re really not. Losing to Levante, dropping points to Celta Vigo and poor Granada side. Also playing attacking midfielder (Llorente) in Trippiers position and Carrasco also not been fit. No clean sheets in 7 very weird for a Simeone team. Pundits were widely tipping Chelsea to win this.

They’ve lost twice all season, and clear at the top of the league. The fact Chelsea were being tipped and hammered them all over the pitch shows how weak the competition is this season. Spanish teams are poor, Italian are just as bad, Liverpool are struggling yet took to bits a side challenging at the top of the Bundesliga.

[hibsbollah]

They’ve lost twice all season, and clear at the top of the league. The fact Chelsea were being tipped and hammered them all over the pitch shows how weak the competition is this season. Spanish teams are poor, Italian are just as bad, Liverpool are struggling yet took to bits a side challenging at the top of the Bundesliga.

You’re using selective facts. They HAD lost twice all season, but the point is NOW they’re in a massive form slump, have lost key players and Chelsea got them at just the right time. Liverpool beat a Red Bull side that never replaced Werner and are toothless, and they never ‘took them apart’, they squeezed through because of two bits of comedy defending.

Man City are favourites rightly but there’s no massive slump going on in Europe like you say.

[hibbysam]

You’re using selective facts. They HAD lost twice all season, but the point is NOW they’re in a massive form slump, have lost key players and Chelsea got them at just the right time. Liverpool beat a Red Bull side that never replaced Werner and are toothless, and they never ‘took them apart’, they squeezed through because of two bits of comedy defending.

Man City are favourites rightly but there’s no massive slump going on in Europe like you say.

Yet red bull are keeping tabs with Bayern in the league, which was the original argument - Bayern and city are far and away the best two sides, which isn’t true.

Was hardly a massive slump in form, a wee sticky patch of 1 win in 4, but wider than that 9 wins in their last 12. They still have lost twice in the league all season. That hasn’t changed? Bayern haven’t won in their last 2 league games either.

Fair enough if you think teams in Europe are as strong this year than previous years.

For me, Spain is a shadow of previous years, Barca and Real are woeful, Atleti the best of that trio but not too far ahead. Dortmund struggling massively in the league but beating Sevilla who are up in the mix in Spain. Germany as weak a league as they have been recently, both of those shown by results vs Liverpool and Chelsea. Italian sides all beaten in the last 16.

Again, feel Man City through form and ability are top of the bunch, and PSG through squad and potential would be the best final to watch. Neymar on one side with Mbappe and KDB on the other would be wonderful to watch.

[Lancs Harp]

Yet red bull are keeping tabs with Bayern in the league, which was the original argument - Bayern and city are far and away the best two sides, which isn’t true.

Was hardly a massive slump in form, a wee sticky patch of 1 win in 4, but wider than that 9 wins in their last 12. They still have lost twice in the league all season. That hasn’t changed? Bayern haven’t won in their last 2 league games either.

Fair enough if you think teams in Europe are as strong this year than previous years.

For me, Spain is a shadow of previous years, Barca and Real are woeful, Atleti the best of that trio but not too far ahead. Dortmund struggling massively in the league but beating Sevilla who are up in the mix in Spain. Germany as weak a league as they have been recently, both of those shown by results vs Liverpool and Chelsea. Italian sides all beaten in the last 16.

Again, feel Man City through form and ability are top of the bunch, and PSG through squad and potential would be the best final to watch. Neymar on one side with Mbappe and KDB on the other would be wonderful to watch.


Its subjective opinion Sam its what message boards are all about.

[JimBHibees]

Different class. Quadruple is well and truly on.

Do we not get that chat every year only for them to get punted out at quarter final stage in Europe. :greengrin

[Hibs90]

Properly laughed at the hun at the start of the BT program there who said "we don't go down without a fight"

Do you aye?

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[we are hibs]

Hun TV back tonight then. Wonder what belters these two halfwits will come out with today

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[we are hibs]

This mob are honking like. Theyve gifted the huns about 3 of their 5 goals in this tie

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[hibbysam]

Its subjective opinion Sam its what message boards are all about.

Correct, and my opinion is that’s not true.

[HoboHarry]

As always when Sevco are playing I start off with a heart full of hope but fully expect a Tsunami of disappointment. Bollocks to the co-efficient, I hope the Govan minkers get leathered.

[green day]

As always when Sevco are playing I start off with a heart full of hope but fully expect a Tsunami of disappointment. Bollocks to the co-efficient, I hope the Govan minkers get leathered.
Sadly, no chance. More likely they will extend their lead. They are a very good team going forward.

[green day]

Sadly, no chance. More likely they will extend their lead. They are a very good team going forward.

Spoke too soon.....😁

[Lancs Harp]

Belting Benfica freekick 1-1 in Athens, Arsenals new home :greengrin

[Aldo]

Morelos is a rat but credit there when the Antwerp player pulled up!


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[Magpie]

Morelos is a rat but credit there when the Antwerp player pulled up!


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Can’t believe he just did that 😂

[Aldo]

Can’t believe he just did that [emoji23]

I know. Ref clapped him too. His team mates weren’t happy!


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[green day]

Great tie this, basketball score 7-5 on agg now

[lord bunberry]

7-5 on aggregate and 3-2 on the night. Another goal for Antwerp and its squeaky bum time for der hun.

[bringbackbenny]

Wtf was McGregor up to there 😅

[Magpie]

Arsenal 1-2 Benfica

[wookie70]

How funny would it be if the Thes still got knocked out. Both defences are dreadful

[Lancs Harp]

Arsenal 1-2 Benfica

Hang in there boys :greengrin

[Magpie]

Arsenal 2-2 Benfica

[Lancs Harp]

7-5 on aggregate and 3-2 on the night. Another goal for Antwerp and its squeaky bum time for der hun.

I'm not watching the Rangers game (watching Benfica) but would you say this is a case of Rangers, very strong domestically defensively but found wanting against stronger opposition in Europe (not that I rate Antwerp particularly highly)? I always thought Celtic were found wanting the same way in Europe. Not good enough at the back with better opponents.

[hibbysam]

I'm not watching the Rangers game (watching Benfica) but would you say this is a case of Rangers, very strong domestically defensively but found wanting against stronger opposition in Europe (not that I rate Antwerp particularly highly)? I always thought Celtic were found wanting the same way in Europe. Not good enough at the back with better opponents.

Thing is, they’re that good attacking that teams don’t get a massive chance to attack them domestically. In Europe they’re still very good going forward, so are happy to make it a game of basketball like it was described above.

[Lancs Harp]

Thing is, they’re that good attacking that teams don’t get a massive chance to attack them domestically. In Europe they’re still very good going forward, so are happy to make it a game of basketball like it was described above.


yeah that was the point I was trying to make. They will get by until they come up against better "clued up" opposition. Not knocking Rangers as I think they have a decent team and play decent football (all biases put aside).

[Magpie]

Arsenal 3-2 Benfica. Great game

[Lancs Harp]

Arsenal 3-2 Benfica. Great game

Bugger, just about sums Benfica up at the moment. Couldnt win a raffle if they have 9 out of 10 tickets :greengrin Never mind.

[1van Sprou7e]

New record for most goals in a Europa tie (in the tournament proper)

Ours was in the qualifiers but it seems the 12-5 win over the Faroese team might be the record for the whole tournment including qualifiers?

Anyone know if this is the case?

[Magpie]

Bugger, just about sums Benfica up at the moment. Couldnt win a raffle if they have 9 out of 10 tickets :greengrin Never mind.

They were unlucky, I thought they played well. Rangers, Ajax, Arsenal, Man Utd (should be fine), Spurs, Molde, Granada, Shakhtar and Villarreal through to the next round as it stands.

[telford hibbee]

Hun TV back tonight then. Wonder what belters these two halfwits will come out with today

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Didn’t think their comments were anywhere near as bad tonight.
There was some stick on Twitter last week I wonder if BT had a word.

[Magpie]

I’d like to see Rangers play one of the English teams or Ajax in the next round. See how they get on against the better teams of the competition.

[Stuart93]

I’d like to see Rangers play one of the English teams or Ajax in the next round. See how they get on against the better teams of the competition.

I’d like to see them get arsenal. Genuinely reckon they’d have a chance against them

[hibbysam]

Didn’t think their comments were anywhere near as bad tonight.
There was some stick on Twitter last week I wonder if BT had a word.

Apart from Craigan having absolutely no idea about the rule when the referee stops play when the ball is in the box. Keeper gets the ball regardless, he thought it was ‘goodwill’ as Kent should have got the ball back!

[hibbysam]

I’d like to see Rangers play one of the English teams or Ajax in the next round. See how they get on against the better teams of the competition.

They were very good vs Benfica in the groups. Showed over two legs against arsenal they’re still a decent side.

[Magpie]

I’d like to see them get arsenal. Genuinely reckon they’d have a chance against them

Benfica gave them a game over two legs so I wouldn’t be surprised.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I'm not watching the Rangers game (watching Benfica) but would you say this is a case of Rangers, very strong domestically defensively but found wanting against stronger opposition in Europe (not that I rate Antwerp particularly highly)? I always thought Celtic were found wanting the same way in Europe. Not good enough at the back with better opponents.


i didn't watch sevco tonight but i did comment last week antwerp would struggle in our league :greengrin and going by that scoreline it looks like they did tonight ?




anyways

Man u 0 Sociedad 0...glad the boy just missed that penalty it irks me when penalty takers erse about slowing down to wait on the keeper diving

[Lancs Harp]

i didn't watch sevco tonight but i did comment last week antwerp would struggle in our league :greengrin and going by that scoreline it looks like they did tonight ?




anyways

Man u 0 Sociedad 0...glad the boy just missed that penalty it irks me when penalty takers erse about slowing down to wait on the keeper diving

Im watching the Leicester game, out of interest with a big lead from the first leg what sort of a team have United put out tonight?

Leicester do have a few injury issues but have made a few changes. In contrast Slavia actually rested half a dozen players last weekend to rest them for this match. Bit of a difference in attitude (although as said some of Leicesters changes have been forced)

[hibbysam]

Im watching the Leicester game, out of interest with a big lead from the first leg what sort of a team have United put out tonight?

Leicester do have a few injury issues but have made a few changes. In contrast Slavia actually rested half a dozen players last weekend to rest them for this match. Bit of a difference in attitude (although as said some of Leicesters changes have been forced)

Half and half, Wan Bissaka, Bruno, Martial, Fred etc still playing along with Greenwood, James, Bailly, Henderson in goal. Bruno would’ve been the first name I’d have rested tonight if I was them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Im watching the Leicester game, out of interest with a big lead from the first leg what sort of a team have United put out tonight?

Leicester do have a few injury issues but have made a few changes. In contrast Slavia actually rested half a dozen players last weekend to rest them for this match. Bit of a difference in attitude (although as said some of Leicesters changes have been forced)


i honestly could't tell you who is normally in the first team for man u :) but McGuire/Rashford on the bench, i'm not sure if McTominay is injured but he's not in the squad

[Lancs Harp]

Half an hour in and Slavia are giving Leicester the run around.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’d like to see them get arsenal. Genuinely reckon they’d have a chance against them

I think Rangers would win. Full of confidence and it would be a huge game for this.

[Iggy Pope]

I’d like to see them get arsenal. Genuinely reckon they’d have a chance against them

I agree. I’d prefer to see them get pumped by a side they’ve no chance against. Which should be Arsenal but it’s not.

[Lancs Harp]

I agree. I’d prefer to see them get pumped by a side they’ve no chance against. Which should be Arsenal but it’s not.

Are Luxembourg's finest Progres Niederkorn still in the tournament? :greengrin

[Lancs Harp]

Leicester 0 Slavia 1 thoroughly deserved and serves Leicester right for having more creativity on the bench than on the park.

[SJNB Hibby]

Think Rogers isnt too bothered. Theyre not likely to win it, and they have an excellent chance of top 4 to get back to the ECL that way. Might be different if fans were there

[SJNB Hibby]

Hoffenheim out to Molde, and now Leverkeusen losing to Young Boys

[Lancs Harp]

Hoffenheim out to Molde, and now Leverkeusen losing to Young Boys

Young Boys v Leverkusen was a cracking first tie. The Swiss team went 3-0 up and Leverkusen fought back to 3-3 before Young Boys snatched the win right at the end.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Its subjective opinion Sam its what message boards are all about.

I believe your opinion is correct, whether that produces a CL Final between the teams is a different story.

[Haymaker]

New record for most goals in a Europa tie (in the tournament proper)

Ours was in the qualifiers but it seems the 12-5 win over the Faroese team might be the record for the whole tournment including qualifiers?

Anyone know if this is the case?

Nope, record is 21-0 held by Feyenoord in the late 70s.

[Lancs Harp]

Leicester 0 Slavia 2 thoroughly deserved

[JimBHibees]

Fantastic result for Slavia, superb.

[SJNB Hibby]

Young Boys thru---a few fancied teams heading out tonight...Hoffenheim, Leverkeusen, Leicester, Brugges, PSV

[we are hibs]

How dare a foreign team beat an English club! Steve Mcmanaman is a proper bellend

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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What's happened to Jamie Vardy, pale shadow of his former self.

[Lancs Harp]

Olympiacos left it very late to score and dump PSV in Eindhoven.

Leicester deserved to go out, Well done Brendon you got that one totally wrong. Put a semi reserve team out with the attitude we'll have enough to beat these but the truth is Slavia aren't a bad side, go 1-0 down make three substitutions up the pace then caught on the break, 2-0. Well done Slavia.

[Since452]

Diddy cup. Until we're in it next season.

[MWHIBBIES]

What's happened to Jamie Vardy, pale shadow of his former self.

14 goals is pretty good for a guy whos diet is caffine pills and red bull :greengrin

[rossevenil]

What's happened to Jamie Vardy, pale shadow of his former self.

i`d imagine still getting back up to full speed after having a Hernia op right at the end of January.

I`m guessing the Sticky Buns aren`t complaining about the referee last night seeing as this one knew that the only team who get Pens are them?

[SHODAN]

What's happened to Jamie Vardy, pale shadow of his former self.

He's 34 now.

[Magpie]

Slavia Prague v Rangers
Man Utd v AC Milan
Olympiacos v Arsenal
Dinamo Zagreb v Spurs
Granada v Molde
Ajax v Young Boys
Dynamo Kyiv v Villarreal
Roma v Shakhtar

[Billy Whizz]

I’m hoping Inverness put up a performance tonight

[we are hibs]

I’m hoping Inverness put up a performance tonightThey'll need to take their tounges out Hearts arse first.

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[Billy Whizz]

They'll need to take their tounges out Hearts arse first.

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😂😂😂

[lord bunberry]

My god this is an absolute boak fest. I hope they both get beat.

[JohnMcM]

I’m hoping Inverness put up a performance tonight

I’m going to watch the first half to be honest. If ICT are ahead then, I’ll maybe watch the second half then flip over to KB if they’ll allow visitors😂

[Since452]

I will absolutely urinate myself if ICT beat them. Unfortunately they are horrific so won't happen.

[Northernhibee]

Gary Mackay-Steven just has a face made for a Hearts strip. The look of "Miss! Miss! Jonny's chewing gum and you're not allowed that in the classroom" plastered all over his miserable Playstation 2 character puss.

[Billy Whizz]

Gary Mackay-Steven just has a face made for a Hearts strip. The look of "Miss! Miss! Jonny's chewing gum and you're not allowed that in the classroom" plastered all over his miserable Playstation 2 character puss.

Surely they could afford a pair of shorts that fitted GMS

[Magpie]

Inverness 1-0 Hearts

[hibee_girl]

ICT 1-0 Hearts :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

I really wish there was a team capable of putting a run together to really challenge them.

They are absolutely garbage. Even if they lose tonight Dunfermilne are still 11 points behind though albeit with 2 games in hand.

[Bishop Hibee]

Not very friendly 😀

[Glory Lurker]

Goal for the Highland Hearts!

[Glory Lurker]

I really wish there was a team capable of putting a run together to really challenge them.

They are absolutely garbage. Even if they lose tonight Dunfermilne are still 11 points behind though albeit with 2 games in hand.

And there's a Fife Derby this weekend or soon at least. Shouldn't be allowed.

[we are hibs]

If thats up the other end Hearts wouldve got the penalty like they usually do

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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

i`d imagine still getting back up to full speed after having a Hernia op right at the end of January.

I`m guessing the Sticky Buns aren`t complaining about the referee last night seeing as this one knew that the only team who get Pens are them?

What influence did Vardy have on that game? I can understand that he might've had a bigger influence compared to the game he played in though.

[Del Boy]

Should be a couple up here

Poor Hearts, who needs enemies when you have friends like this

[lord bunberry]

That was a penalty.

[Jim44]

Hearts problem tonight is that Robbo’s not there to restrain ICT. They’ve forgotten the script.:greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

Hertz are pish 😂

[Waxy]

Hundred percent pen and sending off.
Remember that pen they got against Ayr?
Stinking bias. Hearts are rotten whatever.

[Since452]

I absolutely love Robbie Neilson

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

How Tom Tit are these maroon balloons 😄😄😄

[Billy Whizz]

How Tom Tit are these maroon balloons 😄😄😄

Until they play Hibs

[Tambo]

Would love to see Dunfermline pip hearts to 1st place but can't see it, they will end up loosing away to queen of the south. Win the 2 games in hand and as it stands would be 5 points behind and they need to play again.

[Hibee87]

Remember when we wanted Boyce? Couldn't trap a bag of cement.

[lord bunberry]

Billy Dodds is a nasily, whinny, clueless little hun prick.

[Magpie]

This ref is bottling big decisions here.

[we are hibs]

That was a red

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[lord bunberry]

That’s a ****in red card.

[Since452]

Remember when we wanted Boyce? Couldn't trap a bag of cement.

Are they still paying him 6k a week?

[Magpie]

I absolutely love Robbie Neilson

I ******* hate Hearts

[04Sauzee]

Just a yellow? A little surprised tbh

[Coco Bryce]

What a bunch of dirty bassas Hertz are.

[Del Boy]

I actually thought Naismith would be good in the championship.

I was wrong.

[Ardenttwo]

I ******* hate Hearts

How many times in a game does Billy Dodds say ‘Brilliant’ He said it three time just now in one sentence

[Hibs4185]

I dunno who is the bigger Jambo, the ref or Billy Dodds.

[Magpie]

How many times in a game does Billy Dodds say ‘Brilliant’ He said it three time just now in one sentence

He would talk a glass eye to sleep.

[mayo hibee]

Awful moment there for David Marshall in the East Midlands derby.

[Magpie]

Jammy *******s

[Billy Whizz]

I actually thought Naismith would be good in the championship.

I was wrong.

Got another 2 years after this season too, pleasing

[04Sauzee]

How many times in a game does Billy Dodds say ‘Brilliant’ He said it three time just now in one sentence

According to him that was a definite Yellow kick 👀

[Hibee87]

Looked a good few foot offside. Linesman was behind play as well tbh

[hibbysam]

Looked a good few foot offside. Linesman was behind play as well tbh

Well onside, same player twice, once with the ball back into the box and then dropped for the header playing the scorer onside.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Captivating first half 😂

[Ronniekirk]

Until they play Hibs

The current hibs team would of beaten them in the Semi


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[Newry Hibs]

NHC. Watching the linfield larne match. Co commentator is bobby burns (ex jambo). Actually comes across really well for one sp young. He's currently on glentorans books but is recovering from a double leg break.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Would love to see Dunfermline pip hearts to 1st place but can't see it, they will end up loosing away to queen of the south. Win the 2 games in hand and as it stands would be 5 points behind and they need to play again.

Dunfermline wont win their 2 games in hand. More likely to draw both or lose and draw one. None of the teams below Hearts can put a good run together which is annoying as the league is there to be won if they could.

[Pagan Hibernia]

NHC. Watching the linfield larne match. Co commentator is bobby burns (ex jambo). Actually comes across really well for one sp young. He's currently on glentorans books but is recovering from a double leg break.

im switching between the two games. Hoping for a Larne comeback and an Inverness winner

[Pagan Hibernia]

Just watching the game it reminds me how much I detest hearts colours!

so dour and grim. Cant imagine being in love with a football team that played in that crap

[Newry Hibs]

im switching between the two games. Hoping for a Larne comeback and an Inverness winner

Plenty of chances for both teams. Good game so far.

[Unseen work]

Couldn’t help but cringe at Gordon’s reaction to that cross in the box and foul.

Hardly anything in it, it’s a could. Goalies get off with murder and dish out stuff like that every game.

[Since452]

Just watching the game it reminds me how much I detest hearts colours!

so dour and grim. Cant imagine being in love with a football team that played in that crap

I've always thought that. As depressing and bland as it gets.

[Magpie]

Hearts haven’t won at Inverness in their last 9 games (since 2010).

[Frazerbob]

Awful moment there for David Marshall in the East Midlands derby.

What happened?

[Lancs Harp]

What happened?

He let a bit of a bobbler in. Since gone off with a back injury, not his night.

The game isnt a great watch to be honest I would regard myself as being a football fanatic but this game is making my eyes bleed.

[1van Sprou7e]

How has GMS been for them so far? Looks poor on the rare occasion I tune in

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

The current hibs team would of beaten them in the Semi


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This..

[big gogs]

How has GMS been for them so far? Looks poor on the rare occasion I tune in
He still has the knack of falling down,when anybody goes within 6 feet of him.

[Northernhibee]

This Hearts team is going to struggle massively when promoted. They're absolute dog**** and can barely even trap a ball.

[Unseen work]

How has GMS been for them so far? Looks poor on the rare occasion I tune in

Poor.

If it wasn’t for his career to date it would look a bad signing.

He’s had the odd drop of shoulder but overall miles below what you’d expect.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

How did we lose to this mob? Horrendous standard of football.

[Since452]

How did we lose to this mob? Horrendous standard of football.

Because Hibs are their be all and end all

[Northernhibee]

Their new striker is - and I can't understate this enough - really, really, really ***** at football.

[Stuart93]

How did we lose to this mob? Horrendous standard of football.

Because it doesn’t matter how bad they are, they’re always up for it against us

[Lancs Harp]

Derby 1 Forest 1, Kazim Richards with a bit of quality in a poor game to grab the equaliser. Fingers crossed after a very drab game might get 7 or 8 minutes of excitement at the end.

[Northernhibee]

Mackay Steven misses an absolute sitter.

[SHODAN]

How did we lose to this mob? Horrendous standard of football.

I feel as though we see a post to this effect at least once every season.

[Iggy Pope]

I feel as though we see a post to this effect at least once every season.

A week.

[FilipinoHibs]

This Hearts team is going to struggle massively when promoted. They're absolute dog**** and can barely even trap a ball.

Agree absolutely dug*****.

[Since452]

Three 1-1 draws in a row for the big team

[Northernhibee]

Three 1-1 draws in a row for the big team

Dunfermline have two games in hand. They win those, they go six points behind Farts and are still due to play them twice.

If Dunfermline can find a run of form, the league isn't over.

[Ronniekirk]

This Hearts team is going to struggle massively when promoted. They're absolute dog**** and can barely even trap a ball.

They will fling benefactors money at Robbie to strengthen and the fans will be asked to dig deep yet again and they will just to try and beat us


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[Andy74]

Dunfermline have two games in hand. They win those, they go six points behind Farts and are still due to play them twice.

If Dunfermline can find a run of form, the league isn't over.

None of the other teams have shown any signs of finding consistency unfortunately.

[hibbysam]

Dunfermline have two games in hand. They win those, they go six points behind Farts and are still due to play them twice.

If Dunfermline can find a run of form, the league isn't over.

They aren’t good enough. Dunfermline are at the level of Dundee, Inverness, Raith etc. All these teams take points off each other. Hearts win most of their games. It’s unfortunate but I can’t see any side getting close enough to them.

[Pretty Boy]

The killer for any challenge was Hearts fluking a win v Dunfermilne a few weeks back.

[EI255]

Great draw for the killer Big crowd... Just what they wanted [emoji1787]

Hearts will struggle with that team in the top flight next season. No question.

[Since452]

Hearts are just a better pish than the rest of the pish in that division

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I feel as though we see a post to this effect at least once every season.

Is that why we lost to them?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Hearts are just a better pish than the rest of the pish in that division

I said that a while ago.

[660]

Kickback is gold at the moment:

Steve Clarke should replace Neilson
Derek McInnes should replace Neilson
They need to “persevere”
“Are Hearts just no as big or as good as we think they are?”

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Kickback is gold at the moment:

Steve Clarke should replace Neilson
Derek McInnes should replace Neilson
They need to “persevere”
“Are Hearts just no as big or as good as we think they are?”

Have been following that thread, one dumpling even quoting Frank Lampard but in brackets "wages may be a problem" 😯🤣🤣🤣

[Billy Whizz]

Kickback is gold at the moment:

Steve Clarke should replace Neilson
Derek McInnes should replace Neilson
They need to “persevere”
“Are Hearts just no as big or as good as we think they are?”

And we got Naismith under contract until 2023, on £6k per week

[Smartie]

Struggling to win crap games against stuffy, awful teams.

I’m so glad we’re not down there any more.

It’s a tough league, one where Jambo hubris could really have caused them to come a cropper.

Their expensive squad should do just about enough to win it but they’re lucky af that there aren’t any half-decent teams down there with them, and they’ll need to buck up their ideas big time if / when they come back up. That team with an expectant Tynecastle crowd on their backs is a recipe for disaster.

[147lothian]

I don't think its a tough league they are in, going on the way Dun Utd romped it last season, its just that there is no real impovement in that hearts team from the one that finished bottom last season IMO They will stuggle to stay up with that team in the big league

[Smartie]

I don't think its a tough league they are in, going on the way Dun Utd romped it last season, its just that there is no real impovement in that hearts team from the one that finished bottom last season IMO They will stuggle to stay up with that team in the big league

I don’t think it’s tough as in strong - it’s difficult, awkward, unpleasant and you need to know what you’re doing to get out of it.

Look at some of the results we had against teams, and look at how good some of the players were that we had playing for us.

Loads of teams with very little interest in playing football or attacking, some terrible pitches, loads of niggle.

[mjhibby]

None of the other teams have shown any signs of finding consistency unfortunately.

It’s also the poorest championship for years. They will scramble up and then boast they will be third only to be in a relegation scrap for most of the season then blame everybody else for their predicament. They are gash and they know but can’t face up to it and this is with Benny factor and fog millions. Wow.

[greenginger]

I heard a story a few days ago that Gorgie is not a happy camp at the moment. It came from a guy who is an in-law of one of the senior pros in the big team and not a guy who just makes stuff up.

Seems there has been some economising been done and bonus payments for wins have been cut drastically and this had made a huge difference to some players wages.

Has there been any talk of this on Kickback ?

[mjhibby]

Struggling to win crap games against stuffy, awful teams.

I’m so glad we’re not down there any more.

It’s a tough league, one where Jambo hubris could really have caused them to come a cropper.

Their expensive squad should do just about enough to win it but they’re lucky af that there aren’t any half-decent teams down there with them, and they’ll need to buck up their ideas big time if / when they come back up. That team with an expectant Tynecastle crowd on their backs is a recipe for disaster.

Kickback is fuming just now so imagine what it would be like with fans in the ground watching that. Like Celtic and Aberdeen they are very fortunate there are no crowds otherwise the venom would pour out. If they are like this in the spl they will be relegation candidates again as the gorgie faithful aren’t renowned for their patience.🤣🤣🤣

[weecounty hibby]

Its the easiest chumpionship in years. Hearts are garbage but sadly none of the others will put a winning run together.

[hibbysam]

I heard a story a few days ago that Gorgie is not a happy camp at the moment. It came from a guy who is an in-law of one of the senior pros in the big team and not a guy who just makes stuff up.

Seems there has been some economising been done and bonus payments for wins have been cut drastically and this had made a huge difference to some players wages.

Has there been any talk of this on Kickback ?

Majority of their players don’t really have bonuses do they? That’s what Budge was peddling last year when pushing wage cuts as their players were on bigger wages but lower bonuses. She was looking to change this going forward, however I’d imagine most of their current players will be on those older contracts?

[where'stheslope]

Just had a look at next weeks games in Championship:
Dundee V ICT
Raith V Dunfermline
Hertz V Dundee
The following week Dunfermline V Dundee
They can't all win, and they will end up handing them the league by default!!!

[Aldo]

Majority of their players don’t really have bonuses do they? That’s what Budge was peddling last year when pushing wage cuts as their players were on bigger wages but lower bonuses. She was looking to change this going forward, however I’d imagine most of their current players will be on those older contracts?

She definitely alluded to that in one of her interviews.

They have spent money again on 2 or 3 who will be on a decent wage... GMS and the 6ft 3 striker whose always injured and are still paying out big wages on the likes of Dacour and Berra and many more!


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[Northernhibee]

They aren’t good enough. Dunfermline are at the level of Dundee, Inverness, Raith etc. All these teams take points off each other. Hearts win most of their games. It’s unfortunate but I can’t see any side getting close enough to them.

I've ended up watching their Friday night games as quite frankly Scottish football is what I like and it's usually on somewhere. Hearts aren't much better than Dundee, Inverness, Raith at the minute if at all. They started the season well and I don't know what's up but there's a real malaise about them just now. There's no spark.

I'm telling you, the league's not won yet. They have one hand on it, but for one reason or another they can't get a firm grasp.

[Sir David Gray]

I've ended up watching their Friday night games as quite frankly Scottish football is what I like and it's usually on somewhere. Hearts aren't much better than Dundee, Inverness, Raith at the minute if at all. They started the season well and I don't know what's up but there's a real malaise about them just now. There's no spark.

I'm telling you, the league's not won yet. They have one hand on it, but for one reason or another they can't get a firm grasp.

I reckon they will win the title with at least four games to spare.

[Keith_M]

I honestly think Hearts played a blinder by starting their training weeks before the other Championship sides.

It was obvious that they were so far ahead of everybody else earlier in the season but, now the other teams have caught up in terms of match fitness, it's probably too late for any other side to catch them.

[147lothian]

I don’t think it’s tough as in strong - it’s difficult, awkward, unpleasant and you need to know what you’re doing to get out of it.

Look at some of the results we had against teams, and look at how good some of the players were that we had playing for us.

Loads of teams with very little interest in playing football or attacking, some terrible pitches, loads of niggle.

Very true what your saying but for me it's a much poorer championship now than when we were in it

[Jones28]

I don’t think it’s tough as in strong - it’s difficult, awkward, unpleasant and you need to know what you’re doing to get out of it.

Look at some of the results we had against teams, and look at how good some of the players were that we had playing for us.

Loads of teams with very little interest in playing football or attacking, some terrible pitches, loads of niggle.

Yepp. Dundee United had 3 attempts to get themselves promoted and by then they had built a title winning team.