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hibbysam
22-10-2020, 09:21 PM
This is just not true.
The latest set of figures I can see state that in September 2019 (a year ago) the gap for average 1st team annual salaries was £895k versus £650k.
Couple that with the figures I provided previously that in the last 2 seasons Rangers have spent £20M (net) on transfers and Celtic £6M (net) then you begin to see that their respective budgets are not nearly as far apart as Sevco would have (or like) you believe.
£250k per player (£5k per week per player) - or about 25% less (if my maths are correct). Their respective squads values are far different, regardless of what they’ve sold, what they can put on the pitch far outweighs what rangers can based on numbers spent. They are miles apart.
Celtic’s starting 11 plus subs on Saturday cost around £30m. Rangers’ cost them around £20m. That’s a substantial difference when you think celtic were missing Jullien, Edouard and Elhamed missing which was north of £15m.
Magpie
22-10-2020, 09:27 PM
31 goals in 11 games for Mourinho since the start of the season.
So much for a manager who just parks the bus.
hibbysam
22-10-2020, 09:35 PM
31 goals in 11 games for Mourinho since the start of the season.
So much for a manager who just parks the bus.
What a side they’ve built. Probably lacking depth like the top sides but first 11 man for man is probably as good as any in the premier league.
ancient hibee
22-10-2020, 09:37 PM
Celtic are a shadow of the team now that Rodgers left behind. A lot of Celtic fans think the same. They’ve regressed a good bit whilst Rangers have improved significantly. What was a huge gap is now pretty much non existent.
I don’t think Lennon has a clue what his best team is while Gerrard puts roughly the same team out every week and they keep on producing near enough every week.
I’d be surprised to see Celtic win the league this year and with the budget they have over Rangers and the position Rodgers left them in, that’s poor to say the least.
Interesting you should say that as I believe that covering the period since he took over Lennon has the best win percentage record of any Celtic manager.
Magpie
22-10-2020, 09:45 PM
What a side they’ve built. Probably lacking depth like the top sides but first 11 man for man is probably as good as any in the premier league.
I think their depth is actually very good after the summer window. I noted on here earlier how strong their bench is and they won comfortably tonight even without most their key players. Would be surprised if they didn’t go on to win a trophy this season under Mourinho. After the United game I fancied them to go on a title challenge, time will tell.
hibbysam
22-10-2020, 09:50 PM
I think their depth is actually very good after the summer window. I noted on here earlier how strong their bench is and they won comfortably tonight even without most their key players. Would be surprised if they didn’t go on to win a trophy this season under Mourinho. After the United game I fancied them to go on a title challenge, time will tell.
They have a lot of depth, just not sure how many could consistently fit into their side and keep them at the top of their game. That would be my only question, in comparison with Liverpool or Man City. If they either get lucky with injuries, or the second string players prove capable on a regular basis then they’ll definitely win something, and go very close in the league.
The 90+2
22-10-2020, 09:54 PM
31 goals in 11 games for Mourinho since the start of the season.
So much for a manager who just parks the bus.
Jose Mourinho and his Liverpool counterpart seem the best coaches and people in the world tbh.
Magpie
22-10-2020, 10:12 PM
They have a lot of depth, just not sure how many could consistently fit into their side and keep them at the top of their game. That would be my only question, in comparison with Liverpool or Man City. If they either get lucky with injuries, or the second string players prove capable on a regular basis then they’ll definitely win something, and go very close in the league.
Realistically if Villa can keep McGinn fit they win the league.
Magpie
22-10-2020, 10:15 PM
Jose Mourinho and his Liverpool counterpart seem the best coaches and people in the world tbh.
Could listen to them both all day. Watched Mourinho’s episode on The Playbook Netflix and it really hit how much of a connection he builds with his players when Materazzi was crying on the street after Inter won the Champions League knowing Mourinho was leaving.
The 90+2
22-10-2020, 10:28 PM
Could listen to them both all day. Watched Mourinho’s episode on The Playbook Netflix and it really hit how much of a connection he builds with his players when Materazzi was crying on the street after Inter won the Champions League knowing Mourinho was leaving.
Was amazing. Watch the Spurs amazon series. 👌
They genuinely love football and genuinely love people. Same as you and I. Just nice guys and geniuses.
Magpie
22-10-2020, 10:49 PM
Was amazing. Watch the Spurs amazon series. 👌
They genuinely love football and genuinely love people. Same as you and I. Just nice guys and geniuses.
👍🏻
Jose Mourinho and his Liverpool counterpart seem the best coaches and people in the world tbh.
You have a low bar for the best people in the world.
HoboHarry
23-10-2020, 12:15 AM
You have a low bar for the best people in the world.
:agree: He's never met me obviously.
:greengrin
calumhibee1
23-10-2020, 08:08 AM
Interesting you should say that as I believe that covering the period since he took over Lennon has the best win percentage record of any Celtic manager.
Interesting if true.
I still think they look a very poor side compared to where they were though and to me there’s major comparisons can be made with Ronny Deilas Celtic side - decent first season domestically with a decent European run which then ended with a whimper. Embarrassing exit from Champions League qualifiers.
Second season - average domestically, further humiliation in Europe.. difference being Deila’s side didn’t have anyone to challenge them. I’d be surprised if there’s much more than a small minority of Celtic fans don’t want change and judging by social media a lot of them are truly fearful for 10 in a row.
Scouse Hibee
23-10-2020, 11:06 AM
Realistically if Villa can keep McGinn fit they win the league.
😁
allmodcons
23-10-2020, 12:11 PM
£250k per player (£5k per week per player) - or about 25% less (if my maths are correct). Their respective squads values are far different, regardless of what they’ve sold, what they can put on the pitch far outweighs what rangers can based on numbers spent. They are miles apart.
Celtic’s starting 11 plus subs on Saturday cost around £30m. Rangers’ cost them around £20m. That’s a substantial difference when you think celtic were missing Jullien, Edouard and Elhamed missing which was north of £15m.
You are completely missing the point! This is about Sevco living beyond their means.
Firstly, the wages figures I quoted relate to September 2019, the gap will have closed again this year as Sevco look to stop 10 in a row.
As I have already alluded to, Celtic's starting line up was, to a large extent, funded by £24M from the sale of Tierney (i.e. - they are at least trying to balance the books).
Celtic have assembled a team at net cost of £6M, whilst Sevco have assembled a team a net cost of £20M. They just cannot help themsleves.
For what it's worth, I hate both sides of the Old Firm but let's not start believing the pish spouted by Sevco's press releases that they are always the victim.
Interesting you should say that as I believe that covering the period since he took over Lennon has the best win percentage record of any Celtic manager.
Now that's scientific, although I'd expect twitter or facebook or some other platform for moaning *******s would have you believe otherwise.
Jim44
23-10-2020, 12:23 PM
Gerrard on the behaviour of the Standard Liege coaches last night:
“........ couple of their staff who got over-excited and don’t handle themselves with class and humility”
That from the most classless and graceless manager in the Scottish game. Unbelievable.
JeMeSouviens
23-10-2020, 12:28 PM
Gerrard on the behaviour of the Standard Liege coaches last night:
“........ couple of their staff who got over-excited and don’t handle themselves with class and humility”
That from the most classless and graceless manager in the Scottish game. Unbelievable.
Him and Sevco are so well matched it's unreal. :agree:
HibbyAndy
23-10-2020, 12:29 PM
Gerrard on the behaviour of the Standard Liege coaches last night:
“........ couple of their staff who got over-excited and don’t handle themselves with class and humility”
That from the most classless and graceless manager in the Scottish game. Unbelievable.
Hes' a complete and utter clown !
Ran into the hibs dugoot causing chaos then skulked away leaving his backroom staff to deal with it
Coward
hibbysam
23-10-2020, 01:36 PM
You are completely missing the point! This is about Sevco living beyond their means.
Firstly, the wages figures I quoted relate to September 2019, the gap will have closed again this year as Sevco look to stop 10 in a row.
As I have already alluded to, Celtic's starting line up was, to a large extent, funded by £24M from the sale of Tierney (i.e. - they are at least trying to balance the books).
Celtic have assembled a team at net cost of £6M, whilst Sevco have assembled a team a net cost of £20M. They just cannot help themsleves.
For what it's worth, I hate both sides of the Old Firm but let's not start believing the pish spouted by Sevco's press releases that they are always the victim.
Now that's scientific, although I'd expect twitter or facebook or some other platform for moaning *******s would have you believe otherwise.
No it’s not, it was to do with Celtic having a far bigger budget than Rangers. Your point was regarding the size of Gerrards budget, even though Lennon’s budget is far higher. It doesn’t matter how they got that budget, the facts are they have a far higher budget, and their squad cost far more to assemble, so they should in theory be well ahead. That was the point I made. Your the one that’s believing the Celtic victim nonsense, oh they’re spending too much money, oh they’ve got dirty money coming in, oh they’re about to go bust every 6 weeks.
Magpie
23-10-2020, 01:50 PM
Gerrard on the behaviour of the Standard Liege coaches last night:
“........ couple of their staff who got over-excited and don’t handle themselves with class and humility”
That from the most classless and graceless manager in the Scottish game. Unbelievable.
Find it difficult to praise that club in any shape or form. Vermin right through.
allmodcons
23-10-2020, 02:49 PM
There is no way they will the league "at a canter". They've just beaten a weakened Celtic team and suddenly the league is over? Cast your mind back to last season when they beat Celtic and went top of the league.
Lennon has a proven track record managing one half of the ugly sisters. Gerrard has achieved nothing as a Manager/Coach in 30 months at The Rangers this despite him having a ridiculous budget to work with.
I know that but Gerrard has a ridiculous budget for a 'Club' that went in to liquidation only 8 years ago and from the outside looking in don't look too clever financially again now.
They have a history of spending more than they earn. Hearts did well when some Lithuanian was "pumping cash in" but we all know how that ended.
Financially, Sevco have very weak foundations.
Just as an aside, Celtic have spent circa £30M on transfer fees in the last couple of seasons. During that period they netted £24M for the sale of Kieran Tierney.
During the same period Sevco spent circa £20M and took in next to nothing.
This is just not true.
The latest set of figures I can see state that in September 2019 (a year ago) the gap for average 1st team annual salaries was £895k versus £650k.
Couple that with the figures I provided previously that in the last 2 seasons Rangers have spent £20M (net) on transfers and Celtic £6M (net) then you begin to see that their respective budgets are not nearly as far apart as Sevco would have (or like) you believe.
No it’s not, it was to do with Celtic having a far bigger budget than Rangers. Your point was regarding the size of Gerrards budget, even though Lennon’s budget is far higher. It doesn’t matter how they got that budget, the facts are they have a far higher budget, and their squad cost far more to assemble, so they should in theory be well ahead. That was the point I made. Your the one that’s believing the Celtic victim nonsense, oh they’re spending too much money, oh they’ve got dirty money coming in, oh they’re about to go bust every 6 weeks.
I really don't think you understand finance. You cannot simply add up all the outputs and ignore the inputs. The net figure is what is important. Club's sell assets and buy replacements to live within their means. John McGinn is prime example! We were weakened when he left right?
Do you or do you not agree that Celtic have spend circa £6M (net) in the last 2 seasons and Sevco £20M (net)?
Check out my previous posts on the subject where I accept Celtic have a larger budget but continually refer to Sevco as living beyond their means.
Your last sentence, where you start to make up things about me, is a sure sign you're losing the argument.
DH1875
23-10-2020, 03:31 PM
I've no idea how much money rangers have and it's a debate for another thread. They'll walk the league though as Celtic are garbage. Still can't believe they beat us 3-0.
MWHIBBIES
23-10-2020, 03:43 PM
Not really got a dog in this fight but I doubt Arsenal have paid Celtic much more than half the Tierney fee so far. They paid basically everything in installments last summer.
hibbysam
23-10-2020, 03:51 PM
I really don't think you understand finance. You cannot simply add up all the outputs and ignore the inputs. The net figure is what is important. Club's sell assets and buy replacements to live within their means. John McGinn is prime example! We were weakened when he left right?
Do you or do you not agree that Celtic have spend circa £6M (net) in the last 2 seasons and Sevco £20M (net)?
Check out my previous posts on the subject where I accept Celtic have a larger budget but continually refer to Sevco as living beyond their means.
Your last sentence, where you start to make up things about me, is a sure sign you're losing the argument.
Your ignoring all rangers inputs surely? Income isn’t generated solely from transfers. Your original point was Gerrard having a huge budget yet wins nothing, the argument was that their biggest rivals for trophies have a far bigger budget, and then you turn it onto net spend. Their budget is far bigger, budget is how much they can spend. Celtic can spend and have spent far more. It’s very simple. They should therefore win everything.
The last sentence was me turning your argument about me believing the Rangers victim nonsense around. You don’t think rangers will win the league, I do. Celtic are rank rotten.
Hermit Crab
23-10-2020, 03:54 PM
I've no idea how much money rangers have and it's a debate for another thread. They'll walk the league though as Celtic are garbage. Still can't believe they beat us 3-0.
A few rumours about Lennon and his personal life just now and how these have had a detrimental affect on the dressing room and training etc. I don't think he'll be there much longer anyway. I'd fancy Aberdeen to take something on Sunday as well.
HoboHarry
23-10-2020, 04:20 PM
I've no idea how much money rangers have and it's a debate for another thread. They'll walk the league though as Celtic are garbage. Still can't believe they beat us 3-0.
Celtic aren't garbage, IMHO they have a better standard of player than Sevco but are really poorly coached. With a better coach they will win the league, Lennon should he stay is going to cost them......
Lendo
23-10-2020, 04:47 PM
Hearing the St Mirren/Hamilton game tomorrow is off. St Mirren are going to have 26 games in hand by May
CMurdoch
23-10-2020, 05:08 PM
Celtic aren't garbage, IMHO they have a better standard of player than Sevco but are really poorly coached. With a better coach they will win the league, Lennon should he stay is going to cost them......
I think your right. It has taken time but Rangers through Michael Beale now look a very well coached, fast and efficient side with all the players knowing their roles.
That combined with Celtic missing Eduard, Jullian and Forrest as well as the 3 players they lost to Covid resulted in a perfect storm.
They need to get their main players back and at it ASAP. Could also see them spending money in the January window to bolster their effort.
Strangely both teams main strikers Morelos & Eduard have been struggling. Eduard seems to have been struggling with his fitness/injuries and Morelos has totally lost form. If one of them catches fire it could change the dynamic.
Hearing the St Mirren/Hamilton game tomorrow is off. St Mirren are going to have 26 games in hand by May
Imagine the Jambo tears if the league was stopped and they stayed up on PPG with 8 games in hand or something.
DH1875
23-10-2020, 06:07 PM
Celtic aren't garbage, IMHO they have a better standard of player than Sevco but are really poorly coached. With a better coach they will win the league, Lennon should he stay is going to cost them......
You'd be surprised. Put together a team from their players and a good few of them will be rangers players.
Did you watch our game against Celtic? Do you not think 3-0 flattered them and that we should have got something out the game. From watching our games against them both, the oldfirm game and games in Europe, rangers are the better team IMO.
JoeTortolanoFanClub
23-10-2020, 06:24 PM
Rachael Boyle starts for the SWNT v Albania at the PBS live on BBC Alba now.
Malthibby
23-10-2020, 06:26 PM
Rachael Boyle starts for the SWNT v Albania at the PBS live on BBC Alba now.
:flag:
allmodcons
23-10-2020, 06:29 PM
Your ignoring all rangers inputs surely? Income isn’t generated solely from transfers. Your original point was Gerrard having a huge budget yet wins nothing, the argument was that their biggest rivals for trophies have a far bigger budget, and then you turn it onto net spend. Their budget is far bigger, budget is how much they can spend. Celtic can spend and have spent far more. It’s very simple. They should therefore win everything.
The last sentence was me turning your argument about me believing the Rangers victim nonsense around. You don’t think rangers will win the league, I do. Celtic are rank rotten.
I'm going to draw a line under this simply because I'm getting pissed off with you misquoting me and deflecting rather than answer the simple question I asked of you:-
Do you or do you not agree that Celtic have spend circa £6M (net) in the last 2 seasons and Sevco £20M (net)?
I said Gerrard had a "ridiculous" budget not huge, ridiculous in terms of where Sevco have been and where their finances are now.
It's fairly clear to me that you don't understand finance and how a prudent Club (e.g - like Hibs) should look to balance their books by selling assets and then spending the proceeds on other players.
To rely on a sugar daddy (e.g. - Romanov or Murray) for cash is just asking for trouble in the form of administration or liquidation. The history books will tell you both Rangers and Hearts have been there before.
B.H.F.C
23-10-2020, 06:32 PM
You'd be surprised. Put together a team from their players and a good few of them will be rangers players.
Did you watch our game against Celtic? Do you not think 3-0 flattered them and that we should have got something out the game. From watching our games against them both, the oldfirm game and games in Europe, rangers are the better team IMO.
Celtic hardly got out of first gear against us. We had a few half decent chances early doors but didn’t have a shot on target in the whole game. They could have scored more. We went toe to toe with Rangers and did get something from the game. Not sure I’d be concluding Rangers were the better of the two based, solely, on those two games.
FWIW, I do think Rangers look the better side just now but I think Celtic will
Improve when they get the likes of Edouard, Christie and Forrest back playing regular.
Sir David Gray
23-10-2020, 06:43 PM
What time do we reckon the Hearts penalty will come tonight then?
Since452
23-10-2020, 06:51 PM
Before 8pm
hibbysam
23-10-2020, 06:54 PM
I'm going to draw a line under this simply because I'm getting pissed off with you misquoting me and deflecting rather than answer the simple question I asked of you:-
Do you or do you not agree that Celtic have spend circa £6M (net) in the last 2 seasons and Sevco £20M (net)?
I said Gerrard had a "ridiculous" budget not huge, ridiculous in terms of where Sevco have been and where their finances are now.
It's fairly clear to me that you don't understand finance and how a prudent Club (e.g - like Hibs) should look to balance their books by selling assets and then spending the proceeds on other players.
To rely on a sugar daddy (e.g. - Romanov or Murray) for cash is just asking for trouble in the form of administration or liquidation. The history books will tell you both Rangers and Hearts have been there before.
So you meant ridiculous in those terms in regards to that means they should have won more trophies because they never raked that money in from transfers? 😂 of course you did.
I don’t agree with those spends no, Rangers have brought money in from other means, just like Celtic have. Only looking at transfers is narrow minded and wrong. Rangers (and Celtic) had very good European runs, have huge commercial deals, now have huge retail deals, and have multiple tens of thousands of season ticket holders. Couple that with both sides having directors and investors pumping money in and they can both afford their players.
I’d happily put a fairly large bet that rangers will not go into administration or liquidation over the course of the next 5 years. If you truly believe that then you need to stop reading weird Celtic fanzines.
There’s only one person here that clearly doesn’t understand that football clubs finances are far more varied than just what comes in from transfers.
Like mentioned before, likes of Kent’s transfers will be paid in many instalments and structured in a way where Rangers (and Celtic) haven’t spent anywhere near that money your quoting yet.
DH1875
23-10-2020, 06:55 PM
Celtic hardly got out of first gear against us. We had a few half decent chances early doors but didn’t have a shot on target in the whole game. They could have scored more. We went toe to toe with Rangers and did get something from the game. Not sure I’d be concluding Rangers were the better of the two based, solely, on those two games.
FWIW, I do think Rangers look the better side just now but I think Celtic will
Improve when they get the likes of Edouard, Christie and Forrest back playing regular.
Maybe they were out of first gear though and they are just fish. We were by far the better team for most of the first half and even in 2bd half were having the better of it before they got the 3rd.
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 06:56 PM
i think that boyle goal should have stood
Since452
23-10-2020, 06:57 PM
Maybe they were out of first gear though and they are just fish. We were by far the better team for most of the first half and even in 2bd half were having the better of it before they got the 3rd.
I agree. Best I've seen us a that place in years first half. First goal was crucial.
Del Boy
23-10-2020, 07:08 PM
Arbroath looking the better team last 5 minutes
B.H.F.C
23-10-2020, 07:08 PM
Maybe they were out of first gear though and they are just fish. We were by far the better team for most of the first half and even in 2bd half were having the better of it before they got the 3rd.
We started well, that was about as good as it got.
We were nowhere near the side we were the week before against Rangers.
Scorrie
23-10-2020, 07:09 PM
Arbroath playing well here. Couple of decent chances. Yams missing that Ginnelly
lord bunberry
23-10-2020, 07:10 PM
Arbroath looking the better team last 5 minutes
They’ve had the best 2 chances in the game.
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:11 PM
Arbroath looking the better team last 5 minutes
I put it on and saw the team in maroon dominating. Just assumed it was Hearts
JohnM1875
23-10-2020, 07:11 PM
Ref pulls play back for an Arbroath free kick, if he let's play go they're basically through on goal.
weecounty hibby
23-10-2020, 07:15 PM
Not following this as I'm watching the rugby. 0-0 at the moment? Who missed the hearts penalty?
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:16 PM
Hopefully Jack is watching this. They are honking.
Some save from Gordon
SJNB Hibby
23-10-2020, 07:16 PM
Villa leeds is a cracking game
United going right at them
Hibby70
23-10-2020, 07:17 PM
Leeds looking good, very entertaining game so far
Scorrie
23-10-2020, 07:18 PM
Doolan nearly scores for Lichties. Good save
JohnM1875
23-10-2020, 07:19 PM
Arbroath been the better team past 10 minutes or so. Fully expect the Hearts penalty soon.
Craig Gordon will save them a few points this season. Still a great shot stopper.
hibbysam
23-10-2020, 07:23 PM
We started well, that was about as good as it got.
We were nowhere near the side we were the week before against Rangers.
We were good most of the first half, Celtic were very good second half.
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:23 PM
Dundee must be hopeless because Hearts are toiling tonight
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 07:23 PM
Not following this as I'm watching the rugby. 0-0 at the moment? Who missed the hearts penalty?
i want to watch leeds at footy and rugby...footy has it for now, hows the rugby going, big game they will do well to get something at st.helens
just noticed, 16-0 diwn already, pass
weecounty hibby
23-10-2020, 07:25 PM
i want to watch leeds at footy and rugby...footy has it for now, hows the rugby going, big game they will do well to get something at st.helens
Proper rugby ffs! Scotland v Georgia. Scotland 17-0 at ht, playing pretty well
S4uzee
23-10-2020, 07:25 PM
I expect us to get chances against them and it’s up to us to take them
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:26 PM
Craig Gordon MOTM so far
1van Sprou7e
23-10-2020, 07:26 PM
They look awful right now
Souter96Mac
23-10-2020, 07:26 PM
Scotland Woman 1-0 up, should be more but hopefully push on 2nd half. Caroline Weir is a very good player in the midfield.
Zambernardi1875
23-10-2020, 07:27 PM
Billy Dodds saying halkett is better than considine and hanlon, now saying it’s tough conditions up there. Hearts are murder
sleeping giant
23-10-2020, 07:27 PM
Arbroath have had a few very decent chances.
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:29 PM
Hoof
hibbysam
23-10-2020, 07:30 PM
Billy Dodds saying halkett is better than considine and hanlon, now saying it’s tough conditions up there. Hearts are murder
He never said that, he said he’s only 25 and will be looking at Hanlon and Considine to show that playing for Scotland isn’t dead in the water for him.
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 07:30 PM
what a pr*ck struijk is, imagine getting taken off after just 20 mins because you would probably leave your team with 10 men, bielsa will be raging at the clown
B.H.F.C
23-10-2020, 07:34 PM
I expect us to get chances against them and it’s up to us to take them
Even thought they pumped Dundee, Dundee should have scored more than the two they got. Will definitely get chances.
Pretty Boy
23-10-2020, 07:34 PM
Hearts look absolutely woeful tonight. They knocked it about pretty well last week but this is eye bleeding stuff and they are arguably lucky not to be behind.
JoeTortolanoFanClub
23-10-2020, 07:35 PM
Rachael Boyle starts for the SWNT v Albania at the PBS live on BBC Alba now.
Subbed at HT after being booked. Scotland 1-0 up. No way Albania will finish the game with 11 on the pitch. Every tackle is a foul.
Del Boy
23-10-2020, 07:36 PM
We will pump them next week. They are rank.
allmodcons
23-10-2020, 07:36 PM
Hearts look absolutely woeful tonight. They knocked it about pretty well last week but this is eye bleeding stuff and they are arguably lucky not to be behind.
Agree. Started well but lucky to go in level at half time. Long may it continue.
wookie70
23-10-2020, 07:37 PM
Arbroath by the far the better side for the last 20 mins or so of that half. Hearts would have had a penalty for the wee shove and shirt pull. As soon as any pressure was on the ball Hearts resorted to type and Hoofed it. We need to make sure we press them and we should win without issue
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:39 PM
Craig Gordon worries me for next week. He's been outstanding tonight
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 07:41 PM
Proper rugby ffs! Scotland v Georgia. Scotland 17-0 at ht, playing pretty well
oops forgot about that, i'l stop recording the women to record the rugby instead
Unseen work
23-10-2020, 07:44 PM
Hearts have been very poor tonight however we all know they won’t be like this next week. They’ll raise their game as they always do against us and it will be a very difficult game.
Onion
23-10-2020, 07:46 PM
Arbroath by the far the better side for the last 20 mins or so of that half. Hearts would have had a penalty for the wee shove and shirt pull. As soon as any pressure was on the ball Hearts resorted to type and Hoofed it. We need to make sure we press them and we should win without issue
THIS. Arbroath are showing goo deanery and closing Hearts down quickly, not allowing them the space they got against Dundee. Hibs need to have the same level of energy and press the ball. If we do that, we'll win the Semi.
Hearts are a failed team, trying to rebuild from a low base. They met a poor, unprepared Dundee last week and took full advantage. Playing an up to speed Hibs will be entirely different.
Billy Whizz
23-10-2020, 07:47 PM
We will pump them next week. They are rank.
Don’t judge them on this game, we didn’t exactly set the heather on fire in the Betfred Cup
Onion
23-10-2020, 07:50 PM
Hearts have been very poor tonight however we all know they won’t be like this next week. They’ll raise their game as they always do against us and it will be a very difficult game.
100%. Anyone thinking it will be anything other than a tough match are kidding themselves. This is Hearts' Cup Final. Nothing else matters. They will be thrilled to be thrashed by Celtic or Aberdeen in the final, if that means they've beaten Hibs in the semi. Hibs don't have that mentality.
We see Hearts are a means to an end. They see Hibs as the be all and end all.
1van Sprou7e
23-10-2020, 07:51 PM
Don’t judge them on this game, we didn’t exactly set the heather on fire in the Betfred Cup
We were playing with heavily weakened sides tbf
However, only a fool would predict Hibs to win a derby by a large margin
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:52 PM
Don’t judge them on this game, we didn’t exactly set the heather on fire in the Betfred Cup
This is Hearts full strength team. We had about 8 first team players missing for the Betfred games
Zambernardi1875
23-10-2020, 07:52 PM
He never said that, he said he’s only 25 and will be looking at Hanlon and Considine to show that playing for Scotland isn’t dead in the water for him.
Liam McLeod said that. Dodds said championship level doesn’t help but was quoted as being ahead of the two mentioned
Scorrie
23-10-2020, 07:55 PM
I forgot Halliday was playing. He’s been awful
Brightside
23-10-2020, 07:55 PM
Just turned it on. Why have all the hearts players got white under armour on? Any is bad enough but surely it has to be the colour of the kit?
allmodcons
23-10-2020, 07:56 PM
So you meant ridiculous in those terms in regards to that means they should have won more trophies because they never raked that money in from transfers? 😂 of course you did.
I don’t agree with those spends no, Rangers have brought money in from other means, just like Celtic have. Only looking at transfers is narrow minded and wrong. Rangers (and Celtic) had very good European runs, have huge commercial deals, now have huge retail deals, and have multiple tens of thousands of season ticket holders. Couple that with both sides having directors and investors pumping money in and they can both afford their players.
I’d happily put a fairly large bet that rangers will not go into administration or liquidation over the course of the next 5 years. If you truly believe that then you need to stop reading weird Celtic fanzines.
There’s only one person here that clearly doesn’t understand that football clubs finances are far more varied than just what comes in from transfers.
Like mentioned before, likes of Kent’s transfers will be paid in many instalments and structured in a way where Rangers (and Celtic) haven’t spent anywhere near that money your quoting yet.
I was hoping to draw a line under this but can't let you get away with yet more deflection.
You might want to read the previous posts rather than playing with emojis. You clearly don't know what you are talking about if you can't see that Clubs like Hearts and Sevco should be looking to learn from previous misadventures with what you like to call other sources of income.
You still haven't answered the simple question I asked. Is the maths too much for you? Here's another one for you to avoid, how do think both Sevco and Hearts went in to administration/liquidation before?
Since452
23-10-2020, 07:58 PM
Did Billy Dodds just say everyone in football knows Arbroath is a hard place to go?
Pretty Boy
23-10-2020, 07:59 PM
Did Billy Dodds just say everyone in football knows Arbroath is a hard place to go?
Tbf it is when the wind and rain gets up.
I played at Gayfield once and it was an absolute nightmare of a ground to play at.
Greenfly
23-10-2020, 07:59 PM
c'mon ye maroons.
HIBERNIAN-0762
23-10-2020, 08:01 PM
I'm waiting on the penalty, the own goal or the deflected last minute goal, that's what they are all about 🤮
Scorrie
23-10-2020, 08:01 PM
Tbf it is when the wind and rain gets up.
I played at Gayfield once and it was an absolute nightmare of a ground to play at.
I mind being soaked by a wave crashing over the terrace! Still one of my favourite grounds though...
speedy_gonzales
23-10-2020, 08:04 PM
Billy Dodds saying halkett is better than considine and hanlon, now saying it’s tough conditions up there. Hearts are murder
He never said that, he said he’s only 25 and will be looking at Hanlon and Considine to show that playing for Scotland isn’t dead in the water for him.
I might have misheard, but one of the commentators mentioned Hanlon/Considine being in the national squad, and at only 25, Halkett could have that to look forward to, the other commentator then said, when he was in the premiership last year, arguably, Halkett was a better defender than the two players you just mentioned.
The same Halkett that played in a team that drew 11 and lost 15 out if 30.
Northernhibee
23-10-2020, 08:04 PM
Arbroath really haven’t played that well - quite a few misplaced passes and poor crossing. Hearts have been awful so far.
Hibby70
23-10-2020, 08:05 PM
Elliott Frear is humpty.
Since452
23-10-2020, 08:06 PM
Even that Kingsley lad has resorted to hoofing it
lord bunberry
23-10-2020, 08:06 PM
It appears hearts have made a catastrophic mistake and brought on an old age pensioner instead of a player.
Hibby70
23-10-2020, 08:07 PM
^^ I based the above on 15 minutes whilst I was waiting on Villa v Leeds coming back on. But I reckon that's enough.
Since452
23-10-2020, 08:13 PM
Booo
Greenfly
23-10-2020, 08:14 PM
That's a drag.
S4uzee
23-10-2020, 08:15 PM
Why does the Arbroath GK always come so far out 😂
SJNB Hibby
23-10-2020, 08:15 PM
Leeds score
They're deadly on the counterattack
More goals in this though
JohnM1875
23-10-2020, 08:16 PM
Arbroath look shattered. Expect at least another goal from them.
That Ginnely was off injured after 6 mins today. Think he'll be a miss for them next week (if he is indeed out)
Leeds score
They're deadly on the counterattack
More goals in this though
Grealish should have scored after his mazy.
hibby rae
23-10-2020, 08:23 PM
A win's a win for Scotland. Albania played with a lot of fight, so credit to them, though Scotland should have done better in attack on a few occasions.
The Finland game will be a far tougher affair but very much looking forward to it. I really enjoy watching this Scotland team play.
JoeTortolanoFanClub
23-10-2020, 08:26 PM
A win's a win for Scotland. Albania played with a lot of fight, so credit to them, though Scotland should have done better in attack on a few occasions.
The Finland game will be a far tougher affair but very much looking forward to it. I really enjoy watching this Scotland team play.
3-0. That was a good watch. SWNT kept their heads. They were missing the creativity of Evans and Little. Both injured. Weir is some player.
hibby rae
23-10-2020, 08:28 PM
3-0. That was a good watch. SWNT kept their heads. They were missing the creativity of Evans and Little. Both injured. Weir is some player.
Yeah they are a miss, especially Kim Little. But it's a really good team overall in my opinion.
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 08:29 PM
wow go leeds :) 0-2
The Spaceman
23-10-2020, 08:29 PM
The “standard” of football here is absolutely horrendous. We would absolutely wipe the floor with either of these teams whilst in second gear.
Hibernian Verse
23-10-2020, 08:32 PM
The “standard” of football here is absolutely horrendous. We would absolutely wipe the floor with either of these teams whilst in second gear.Said every confident Hibs fan ever, only to see us beaten 1-0 to a soft penalty.
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Since452
23-10-2020, 08:35 PM
Should have been the equaliser there
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 08:35 PM
3-0 leeds. Bamford hattrick:thumbsup:
Pretty Boy
23-10-2020, 08:37 PM
**** sake man get over the ball. That's a great chance.
Greenfly
23-10-2020, 08:37 PM
Hearts certainly weren't impressive tonight - lucky to get away with more than a point. Here's hoping they play like that next week.
Hibernian Verse
23-10-2020, 08:37 PM
Should have been the equaliser thereHearts have ridden their luck tonight.
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Gary Caldwell should do a podcast for insomniacs.
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Since452
23-10-2020, 08:44 PM
Hearts were chronic tonight. Very very poor. No doubt they will play like Barcelona next week
Bishop Hibee
23-10-2020, 08:48 PM
Hertz as poor tonight as they were good v Dundee. Walker was decent for them. Halkett is a donkey. We are favourites for the semi no doubt.
EI255
23-10-2020, 08:48 PM
Hearts were chronic tonight. Very very poor. No doubt they will play like Barcelona next weekHearts looked awful.
If we play like we can / should, then there will be no worries next week.
Lucky win for a full strength Hearts tonight.
Arbroath always looked in the game.
Let's do them Hibs!!
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cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 08:48 PM
26 goal attempts for leeds away from home
CmoantheHibs
23-10-2020, 08:49 PM
Arbroath will be disappointed. Can't really remember hearts creating much and Arbroath had a few good chances.
Arbroath deserved at least a draw.
Other than Boyce and Walker diving they have little going for them. Halliday is so far of the pace and sharing is miles away. The winger that went off early is tricky and will be out. No Naismith who is caring a hamstring injury.
If we play like we can we should win on Saturday by two goals minimum.
S4uzee
23-10-2020, 08:56 PM
Arbroath deserved at least a draw.
Other than Boyce and Walker diving they have little going for them. Halliday is so far of the pace and sharing is miles away. The winger that went off early is tricky and will be out. No Naismith who is caring a hamstring injury.
If we play like we can we should win on Saturday by two goals minimum.
They’re definitely saving Naismith for next week
hibbysam
23-10-2020, 08:56 PM
I was hoping to draw a line under this but can't let you get away with yet more deflection.
You might want to read the previous posts rather than playing with emojis. You clearly don't know what you are talking about if you can't see that Clubs like Hearts and Sevco should be looking to learn from previous misadventures with what you like to call other sources of income.
You still haven't answered the simple question I asked. Is the maths too much for you? Here's another one for you to avoid, how do think both Sevco and Hearts went in to administration/liquidation before?
I answered your bold part of your post clearly. I told you I don’t believe that as far more entries contribute to a teams ability to spend money other than bringing in transfer fees. I also told you that rangers haven’t spent all the money you think they have, and that Celtic haven’t received all the mo eh you think they have.
We’re not talking about why they went into admin before (not paying the tax man however if your asking, are you saying they aren’t paying him now?). I bow down to your hugely superior accountancy skills though, I’ll look forward to both of those clubs going to the wall again.
Back to the original point, Celtic have a far bigger budget than Rangers, and should win the league. The fact there’s even a question over it, let along weighted in rangers favour now shows how good a job Gerrard is doing and how poor Lennon is doing.
Frazerbob
23-10-2020, 08:57 PM
26 goal attempts for leeds away from home
Similar to us at Dingwall 😉
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 08:58 PM
very quiet games for sjm and grealish
leeds were braw
CmoantheHibs
23-10-2020, 08:59 PM
Don't rate Bamford at Leeds but his hattrick against Villa tonight was superb.
hibsbollah
23-10-2020, 08:59 PM
Hearts were chronic tonight. Very very poor. No doubt they will play like Barcelona next week
Like they did in the 8-2 defeat to Bayern, hopefully :greengrin
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 08:59 PM
Similar to us at Dingwall ��
with an entirely different outcome, nisbet and doidge had their boots on the wrong feet unfortunately
hibsbollah
23-10-2020, 09:01 PM
Don't rate Bamford at Leeds but his hattrick against Villa tonight was superb.
Bamford is a systems guy. He knows how to play in Bielsas scheme. And Bielsa loves him because he brings the other guys into play. And now he’s scoring goals too!
Since452
23-10-2020, 09:10 PM
26 goal attempts for leeds away from home
Just like us last weekend
cabbageandribs1875
23-10-2020, 09:18 PM
Just like us last weekend
finished 27 attempts tonight
FilipinoHibs
23-10-2020, 09:19 PM
Hertz as poor tonight as they were good v Dundee. Walker was decent for them. Halkett is a donkey. We are favourites for the semi no doubt.
Normal service resumed.
PS I bought Pedagogy of the Oppressed in 1974, have some Brazillian family.
The Count
23-10-2020, 09:33 PM
Only worry i have about the semi is Craig Gordon.
Since452
23-10-2020, 10:09 PM
Only worry i have about the semi is Craig Gordon.
Same. Still an extremely good keeper on tonight's display
CmoantheHibs
23-10-2020, 11:02 PM
Bamford is a systems guy. He knows how to play in Bielsas scheme. And Bielsa loves him because he brings the other guys into play. And now he’s scoring goals too!
He obviously brings things to the team as bielsa has had the opportunity to replace him but has not. It wasn’t so much that but more the quality, calmness and brilliance of his finishing. I have rarely seen that from him. If they came from Kane or Salah people would be drooling. Shows you what I know as I never thought he was capable.
DH1875
24-10-2020, 01:27 AM
Just like us last weekend
Except they won.
West ham 1 Man City 0
Great goal.
Paul1642
24-10-2020, 12:28 PM
Except they won.
Yeah but Arbroath are a few steps below Ross county.
EI255
24-10-2020, 12:45 PM
Arbroath deserved at least a draw.
Other than Boyce and Walker diving they have little going for them. Halliday is so far of the pace and sharing is miles away. The winger that went off early is tricky and will be out. No Naismith who is caring a hamstring injury.
If we play like we can we should win on Saturday by two goals minimum.After watching that last night, I'm confident about next Saturday now. Hearts defence looks very fragile. They are fortunate to have the lanky fella between the stix.
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Sylar
24-10-2020, 02:09 PM
Watching the Classico while listening to the Hibs game.
What a start!
1-1 after 9 minutes - Real took the lead after 5 minutes, Barcelona equalise in the 8th minute.
Since452
24-10-2020, 02:32 PM
Raith going top the Championship at this rate
SJNB Hibby
24-10-2020, 02:38 PM
Fletch scoring for Stoke---didnt realise he was there tbh
cabbageandribs1875
24-10-2020, 02:41 PM
murrawell 1 ross co 0
The Modfather
24-10-2020, 02:51 PM
Watching the Classico while listening to the Hibs game.
What a start!
1-1 after 9 minutes - Real took the lead after 5 minutes, Barcelona equalise in the 8th minute.
It’s a shame how far Barca and Real have fallen, I didn’t even know they were playing today until this post. Watching Messi v Ronaldo when they were in their prime was a privilege.
On an unrelated note, is Fati worth the hype? Haven’t actually ever seen him play but he sounds like he’ll be some player.
wallpaperman
24-10-2020, 02:54 PM
Watching the Classico while listening to the Hibs game.
What a start!
1-1 after 9 minutes - Real took the lead after 5 minutes, Barcelona equalise in the 8th minute.
It’s been a wonderful first half. I don’t support either so don’t care who wins. Some of the passing and movement (especially from RM) has been a joy to watch.
wallpaperman
24-10-2020, 02:58 PM
It’s a shame how far Barca and Real have fallen, I didn’t even know they were playing today until this post. Watching Messi v Ronaldo when they were in their prime was a privilege.
On an unrelated note, is Fati worth the hype? Haven’t actually ever seen him play but he sounds like he’ll be some player.
I don’t think either of them have fallen that far, even though both are going through some sort of transitional period.
I watched Ansu Fati a lot last season as he broke into the team, it’s easy to forget how young he is, he is the real deal, absolutely.
£5.99 a month on La Liga tv is phenomenal value for money.
Sylar
24-10-2020, 03:00 PM
It’s a shame how far Barca and Real have fallen, I didn’t even know they were playing today until this post. Watching Messi v Ronaldo when they were in their prime was a privilege.
On an unrelated note, is Fati worth the hype? Haven’t actually ever seen him play but he sounds like he’ll be some player.
I think he's worth the hype. Seen him a lot this season (I've got a Premier Sport account and watch a lot of La Liga) and he looks sensational. It helps him being surrounded by so much talent right enough - must be nice working with Coutinho, Messi, de Jong etc every day!
cabbageandribs1875
24-10-2020, 03:18 PM
murrawell 3 ross co 0
st.johnstone 0 dundee utd 0
mutley
24-10-2020, 03:35 PM
Well 4-0 County
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cabbageandribs1875
24-10-2020, 03:46 PM
5-2 raith in dumfries
they'll be dancing in the streets tonight in kawdy
Since452
24-10-2020, 03:48 PM
Raith knock the pink flumps off the top
Scorrie
24-10-2020, 03:51 PM
Real Madrid pumping Barca 1-3 in the Classico
calumhibee1
24-10-2020, 03:52 PM
Raith knock the pink flumps off the top
How it started 🔝
How it’s going ⬇️
Since452
24-10-2020, 03:56 PM
How it started 🔝
How it’s going ⬇️
👏👏👏
StevesFamau5
24-10-2020, 04:00 PM
I don’t think either of them have fallen that far, even though both are going through some sort of transitional period.
I watched Ansu Fati a lot last season as he broke into the team, it’s easy to forget how young he is, he is the real deal, absolutely.
£5.99 a month on La Liga tv is phenomenal value for money.It's an absolute steal at 5.99. Coverage is pretty good and loads of games.
Also Semra Hunter is worth the admission price alone haha.
Definitely agree about Ansu, if his trajectory continues he will be on Mbappe scales soon enough.
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Barney McGrew
24-10-2020, 04:07 PM
Ajax are currently 12-0 up away to Venlo
Sylar
24-10-2020, 04:18 PM
Ajax are currently 12-0 up away to Venlo
13...
Wow.
mutley
24-10-2020, 04:18 PM
Dunfermline sneak into 2nd , Hertz
Down to 3rd !!
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AFKA5814_Hibs
24-10-2020, 04:18 PM
Ajax are currently 12-0 up away to Venlo
Ended 13-0. Ajax had 45 shots at goal. Venlo had a player sent off who's surname is Kum.
All seems very bizarre. 😄
cabbageandribs1875
24-10-2020, 04:19 PM
Ajax won 13-0
unlucky for some
wallpaperman
24-10-2020, 04:21 PM
Ajax won 13-0
unlucky for some
I thought ours was the only pub league?
The Modfather
24-10-2020, 04:43 PM
That a Man U starting lineup is light years away from the title and probably not god enough for the top 4.
Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, McTominay, Fred, Mata & James simply aren’t good enough. Why sign the likes of Van De Beek & Cavani but not play them.
Callum_62
24-10-2020, 04:57 PM
Bore fest at Old Trafford so far
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cabbageandribs1875
24-10-2020, 05:11 PM
I thought ours was the only pub league?
that's the championship this season your thinking about :greengrin
Callum_62
24-10-2020, 05:12 PM
how is that not a penalty against Mcguire?
He holds Azpilcueta down around the neck whos infront of him that stops him jumping
VAR not getting involved - dont get it
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1320052252359462914?s=20
MWHIBBIES
24-10-2020, 06:36 PM
United 15th. Ole stealing a living
Northernhibee
24-10-2020, 06:39 PM
United 15th. Ole stealing a living
I feel for him. Jose Mourinho is very much the Neil Lennon of the English top flight - works for a while but when it falls apart it can leave a club in a bad place. When Ole took over he had the same positive reaction that Hecky had with us and it was a no brainer for Man Utd to give him a longer term contract and a no brainer for him to sign it.
Unfortunately Molde is the sort of level of management suited to him but that positive spell would have been enough for both to think it was the right move. It's a shame it's not working out for him but also Woodward hasn't backed him which just makes everything look that little bit worse.
He's a good guy who took the job for the right reasons, IMO "stealing a living" should be reserved for the likes of Colin Calderwood and Terry Butcher.
The Modfather
24-10-2020, 06:42 PM
Evra is a bit of a dick. A less articulate and insightful Gary Neville IMO
Just_Jimmy
24-10-2020, 06:54 PM
Evra is a bit of a dick. A less articulate and insightful Gary Neville IMOis he?
it's his second language and he's actually right.
these utd and Chelsea teams are stacked with big money transfers but they're dross to watch and it was a total pish game.
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MWHIBBIES
24-10-2020, 07:01 PM
I feel for him. Jose Mourinho is very much the Neil Lennon of the English top flight - works for a while but when it falls apart it can leave a club in a bad place. When Ole took over he had the same positive reaction that Hecky had with us and it was a no brainer for Man Utd to give him a longer term contract and a no brainer for him to sign it.
Unfortunately Molde is the sort of level of management suited to him but that positive spell would have been enough for both to think it was the right move. It's a shame it's not working out for him but also Woodward hasn't backed him which just makes everything look that little bit worse.
He's a good guy who took the job for the right reasons, IMO "stealing a living" should be reserved for the likes of Colin Calderwood and Terry Butcher.
Mourinho is leagues and leagues ahead of ole imo. His spurs team put 6 past United. He won trophies despite getting almost none of the targets he wanted.
He really isn't a good guy either. Him and his agent are very shady, have a Google. Some really dodgy stuff.
The Modfather
24-10-2020, 07:01 PM
is he?
it's his second language and he's actually right.
these utd and Chelsea teams are stacked with big money transfers but they're dross to watch and it was a total pish game.
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His English is perfect so don’t think it’s anything to do with translation. I just think he puts a lot of points across poorly and too emotionally. Gary Neville is as big a Man U fan as Evra but he is a lot better at being subjective and removing the emotion from his point.
Lancs Harp
24-10-2020, 07:09 PM
Both teams played as if they were totally terrified of conceding the first goal. Love my football but a hugely disappointing game. I actually missed 20 minutes of it switching over to watch the IPL game (plus reading the learned opinions of the day on here of course)
Next up for me, glass of wine on the go and a look at David Beckhams Inter Miami.
Scouse Hibee
24-10-2020, 09:01 PM
Liverpool come from behind to win 2-1
Magpie
25-10-2020, 05:53 AM
I feel for him. Jose Mourinho is very much the Neil Lennon of the English top flight - works for a while but when it falls apart it can leave a club in a bad place. When Ole took over he had the same positive reaction that Hecky had with us and it was a no brainer for Man Utd to give him a longer term contract and a no brainer for him to sign it.
Unfortunately Molde is the sort of level of management suited to him but that positive spell would have been enough for both to think it was the right move. It's a shame it's not working out for him but also Woodward hasn't backed him which just makes everything look that little bit worse.
He's a good guy who took the job for the right reasons, IMO "stealing a living" should be reserved for the likes of Colin Calderwood and Terry Butcher.
To be honest for any manager to be sacked the club must be in a bad place.
I suppose you are right in your comparison of Mourinho being the Lennon of the EPL, they have multiple trophies between them.
Brightside
25-10-2020, 08:01 AM
I feel for him. Jose Mourinho is very much the Neil Lennon of the English top flight - works for a while but when it falls apart it can leave a club in a bad place. When Ole took over he had the same positive reaction that Hecky had with us and it was a no brainer for Man Utd to give him a longer term contract and a no brainer for him to sign it.
Unfortunately Molde is the sort of level of management suited to him but that positive spell would have been enough for both to think it was the right move. It's a shame it's not working out for him but also Woodward hasn't backed him which just makes everything look that little bit worse.
He's a good guy who took the job for the right reasons, IMO "stealing a living" should be reserved for the likes of Colin Calderwood and Terry Butcher.
Man Utd was a mess when Jose took over. It’s never recovered despite multiple managers trying. Needs a refresh from top to bottom. Jose certainly didn’t leave it in a state. OGS had a couple of easy games and then his ex colleagues in the press got him the job full time. They need Poch and a proper Director of Football with a 3 year plan. Calling Jose the Neil Lennon of English football is very insulting for Jose.
Billy Whizz
25-10-2020, 10:13 AM
For those who have remembered to change their clocks, Aberdeen v Celtic on Sky 12noon ko
Celtic made quite a few changes, dropping their goalie and Brown
EdinMike
25-10-2020, 10:21 AM
How much did that dud of a keeper cost Celtic anyway ? I actually think Bain is better.
Northernhibee
25-10-2020, 10:33 AM
Man Utd was a mess when Jose took over. It’s never recovered despite multiple managers trying. Needs a refresh from top to bottom. Jose certainly didn’t leave it in a state. OGS had a couple of easy games and then his ex colleagues in the press got him the job full time. They need Poch and a proper Director of Football with a 3 year plan. Calling Jose the Neil Lennon of English football is very insulting for Jose.
It’s really not. Both tend to come in, spend money and after two seasons lose their effectiveness.
Mind you both managers have their followers who cannot see the wood for the trees and think that neither can do a thing wrong.
Michael
25-10-2020, 10:36 AM
It’s really not. Both tend to come in, spend money and after two seasons lose their effectiveness.
Mind you both managers have their followers who cannot see the wood for the trees and think that neither can do a thing wrong.
How many managers last longer than 2 or 3 years? Lennon and Mourinho tend to be successful in those 2 years, but most are not.
blackpoolhibs
25-10-2020, 10:41 AM
How many managers last longer than 2 or 3 years? Lennon and Mourinho tend to be successful in those 2 years, but most are not.
Exactly, although some people's hatred of certain individuals last much longer.
Scorrie
25-10-2020, 11:11 AM
For those who have remembered to change their clocks, Aberdeen v Celtic on Sky 12noon ko
Celtic made quite a few changes, dropping their goalie and Brown
Not surprised both have been dropped [unless injured) . Brown looks pretty much finished at this level now, certainly on the evidence of the last few matches
Iggy Pope
25-10-2020, 11:12 AM
The fellah Hedges looks a right twat in his headband.
Real Emerald
25-10-2020, 11:24 AM
I see Aberdeen have managed to pipe in a very realistic Pittodrie crowd noise......... silence shhhhhhhhhh
Since452
25-10-2020, 11:24 AM
Hope Celtic win (boke).
Andy74
25-10-2020, 11:25 AM
The fellah Hedges looks a right twat in his headband.
In think the last 3 words there are superfluous.
Andy74
25-10-2020, 11:27 AM
McGeouch injured, which I know will come as a shock to all of us.
hibee_girl
25-10-2020, 11:27 AM
McGeouch lasted 25 minutes before going off injured
BILLYHIBS
25-10-2020, 11:28 AM
McGeouch injured, which I know will come as a shock to all of us.
Made of paper
Just fell over and started clutching his groin
Souter96Mac
25-10-2020, 11:29 AM
Made of paper
Just fell over and started clutching his groin
Looked like he made a challenge on the sideline and over stretched it.
Andy74
25-10-2020, 11:31 AM
Looked like he made a challenge on the sideline and over stretched it.
Looked like he had already tweaked it earlier too up the far right before he took a throw.
SHODAN
25-10-2020, 11:31 AM
I see Aberdeen have managed to pipe in a very realistic Pittodrie crowd noise......... silence shhhhhhhhhh
It does seem more lively than usual.
sauzee=legend
25-10-2020, 11:34 AM
Can you imagine watching Aberdeen week in and week out, majority of the time they have every man behind the ball and play for set pieces.
hibee-boys
25-10-2020, 11:35 AM
Made of paper
Just fell over and started clutching his groin
Has done very little since he left Hibs, be interesting to see in what direction his career goes after his Aberdeen contract comes to an end. Should be in his prime but has played a bit part at his last 2 clubs.
1van Sprou7e
25-10-2020, 11:40 AM
Has done very little since he left Hibs, be interesting to see in what direction his career goes after his Aberdeen contract comes to an end. Should be in his prime but has played a bit part at his last 2 clubs.
Probably end up at dundee united
givescotlandfreedom
25-10-2020, 11:40 AM
Really dull viewing this. Celtic toothless, Aberdeen boring as always.
Made of paper
Just fell over and started clutching his groin
He's had groin problems for most of his career by the looks of it, he used to be constantly stretching and rubbing his groin muscle during warm up and during the game.
TBH this game is pretty boring, Celtic look toothless up front and Aberdeen are happy sit in and soak things up, they look to be playing for a point.
oneone73
25-10-2020, 11:42 AM
How come Celtc are ***** against everyone bar us?
givescotlandfreedom
25-10-2020, 11:43 AM
How come Celtc are ***** against everyone bar us?
Reminds me of when Lennon seemed to lose interest with us.
hibee_girl
25-10-2020, 11:44 AM
Penalty to aberdeen
hibee_girl
25-10-2020, 11:44 AM
Aberdeen 1 - 0 Celtic
givescotlandfreedom
25-10-2020, 11:45 AM
Silly challenge
BILLYHIBS
25-10-2020, 11:46 AM
Looked like he made a challenge on the sideline and over stretched it.
Really needs to make sure he is fully stretched and warmed up beforehand to avoid tweeks Happens too often with McGeouch Lenny didnae look too surprised as it is all in his heid 😂
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 11:47 AM
Celtic are absolutely garbage.
norhfc
25-10-2020, 11:47 AM
I like the red and white squares in the nets, think green and white ones at ER, would look good :agree:
SHODAN
25-10-2020, 11:47 AM
Lennon won't last much longer at this rate.
jeffers
25-10-2020, 11:47 AM
Wasn’t a penalty for me. As is the way nowadays a player feels contact in the box and goes down.
Aberdeen are solid defensively, they sit 541 and break on the counter, most attacks are snubbed due to the players all doing their job, it's not pretty but effective.
Hibernian Verse
25-10-2020, 11:48 AM
Wasn’t a penalty for me. As is the way nowadays a player feels contact in the box and goes down.Definitely a pen.
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Iggy Pope
25-10-2020, 11:48 AM
I like the red and white squares in the nets, think green and white ones at ER, would look good :agree:
I remember as a boy the Hibs nets having green vertical bands on them. Or have I imagined that?
Scorrie
25-10-2020, 11:49 AM
Lennon won't last much longer at this rate.
I think they’ll have to get shot now if they want 10IR
Frazerbob
25-10-2020, 11:49 AM
Lennon implosion incoming.......
Heisenberg
25-10-2020, 11:49 AM
Wasn’t a penalty for me. As is the way nowadays a player feels contact in the box and goes down.
I thought it was soft. Ferguson played for it well and Ntcham was daft to fall for it though.
Spike Mandela
25-10-2020, 11:49 AM
Reminiscent of the Aberdeen game at ER. Hibs dominating slightly but give away a sill penalty.
SChibs
25-10-2020, 11:49 AM
Wasn’t a penalty for me. As is the way nowadays a player feels contact in the box and goes down.
He was almost on the floor before the contact. You could tell by the way he looked at the ref when he went down the only thing on his mind was trying to get a penalty
I remember as a boy the Hibs nets having green vertical bands on them. Or have I imagined that?
Nope you're right, I was just going to post that.
murray26
25-10-2020, 11:50 AM
Clumsy from my ntcham.. Lennons loses this and he’ll probably be away
Frazerbob
25-10-2020, 11:50 AM
Celtic are absolutely garbage.
They really are. Anyone’s cup, especially with them not having 3/4 of the stadium for the semi.
I thought it was soft. Ferguson played for it well and Ntcham was daft to fall for it though.
It was a clumsy challenge and Nitcham should've been more aware.
HappyAsHellas
25-10-2020, 11:52 AM
I remember as a boy the Hibs nets having green vertical bands on them. Or have I imagined that?
Your memory's fine as I remember then. But then again I'm in my dotage according to family members.
Only time in my life I ever wanted any of the ugly sisters to win a game. Jeez and their getting beat unreal. Hibs back to 4th at the moment.
Phil MaGlass
25-10-2020, 11:54 AM
sellik are absolute gash, no threat what so ever. Huns will win the league by a country mile.
EdinMike
25-10-2020, 11:55 AM
Only time you want Celtic to win and Lennon is still being useless to us 😅
.Sean.
25-10-2020, 11:56 AM
I remember as a boy the Hibs nets having green vertical bands on them. Or have I imagined that?
We had green and yellow nets at one stage. Also had black nets too.
SHODAN
25-10-2020, 11:59 AM
Hibs Aberdeen cup final anyone?
Iggy Pope
25-10-2020, 12:00 PM
Your memory's fine as I remember then. But then again I'm in my dotage according to family members.
I also remember trying to paint my Subbuteo nets like that and made a right erse of them.
Phil MaGlass
25-10-2020, 12:01 PM
Hibs Aberdeen cup final anyone?
I have a feeling Hampden is too big for Dons, sellik will beat them there
JohnM1875
25-10-2020, 12:03 PM
We had green and yellow nets at one stage. Also had black nets too.
Remember the green and yellow nets. Had them when I was about 13 and had my season ticket in the famous five with a few mates.
Should get them back this season with our third kit being yellow.
Siralbertkidd
25-10-2020, 12:04 PM
Lennon won't last much longer at this rate.
Manager of the Month for September :greengrin
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 12:06 PM
They really are. Anyone’s cup, especially with them not having 3/4 of the stadium for the semi.
Yup. I fancy us for the cup tbh. All difficult games but we’re more than capable of winning against all 3 teams left.
jeffers
25-10-2020, 12:06 PM
He was almost on the floor before the contact. You could tell by the way he looked at the ref when he went down the only thing on his mind was trying to get a penalty
Football is treated differently but if I was to make contact with someone like that in the street I’d be stunned if they fell to the ground. It’s the modern way though.
hibee-boys
25-10-2020, 12:08 PM
Wasn’t a penalty for me. As is the way nowadays a player feels contact in the box and goes down.
A clear foul anywhere else on the pitch, penalty for me.
hibee_girl
25-10-2020, 12:09 PM
Aberdeen 1 - 1 Celtic
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 12:12 PM
Football is treated differently but if I was to make contact with someone like that in the street I’d be stunned if they fell to the ground. It’s the modern way though.
Whilst I don’t disagree with you I’m not sure the person in the street would be running whilst trying to dribble a football :greengrin
jeffers
25-10-2020, 12:14 PM
Whilst I don’t disagree with you I’m not sure the person in the street would be running whilst trying to dribble a football :greengrin
:greengrin
greenlex
25-10-2020, 12:16 PM
Only time you want Celtic to win and Lennon is still being useless to us 😅
If we’re gonna win the league a draw might be better.:greengrin
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 12:22 PM
If we’re gonna win the league a draw might be better.:greengrin
:agree:
Mon the draw.
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 12:22 PM
2-1. Shane Duffy lol.
It’s like he’s taking the piss by being so bad.
Andy74
25-10-2020, 12:22 PM
Duffy is brutal when he’s not heading things.
hibee_girl
25-10-2020, 12:22 PM
Aberdeen 2 - 1 Celtic
Duffy is so bad!
one day maybe...
25-10-2020, 12:22 PM
Aberdeen 1 - 1 Celtic
FT score if that wouldn’t be the worst result for Hibs. Their game in hand is against each too
Scorrie
25-10-2020, 12:23 PM
Jeezo that Duffy couldn’t play in the juniors. He is awful
Hedges for Aberdeen, big mistake by Duffy again, this signing might cost Lennon his job.
one day maybe...
25-10-2020, 12:24 PM
FT score if that wouldn’t be the worst result for Hibs. Their game in hand is against each too
Kiss of death :no way:
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 12:24 PM
Duffy has been at fault to some degree for every goal in the Rangers, Milan and Aberdeen games apart from the penalty today. 5 out of 6. What an absolute disaster of a signing for Celtic.
Since452
25-10-2020, 12:25 PM
Lennon out
Since90+2
25-10-2020, 12:25 PM
If Celtic lose here I think Lennon will be gone. They won't wont win the league with him in charge.
jeffers
25-10-2020, 12:25 PM
I take it Julien is injured ? Can’t believe Duffy is viewed as a better option to him.
calumhibee1
25-10-2020, 12:25 PM
If Celtic lose here I think Lennon will be gone. They won't wont win the league with him in charge.
Rangers will stroll it if they don’t make a change in the next few weeks. Celtic have probably got a slightly better squad but they look absolutely garbage.
Scorrie
25-10-2020, 12:26 PM
Duffy has been at fault to some degree for every goal in the Rangers, Milan and Aberdeen games apart from the penalty today. 5 out of 6. What an absolute disaster of a signing for Celtic.
I bet Brighton couldn’t believe their luck getting shot of Duffy. He looks like he’s on the beer every night. And that Arteti is pish as well
The Modfather
25-10-2020, 12:27 PM
Rangers will stroll it if they don’t make a change in the next few weeks.
A born winner who Celtic are lucky to have. The board and players settle for second best and can’t match Lennon's ambitions.
Callum_62
25-10-2020, 12:27 PM
The EPL must be absolutely garbage
It must be if Shane Duffy managed to get a game in it
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Hibs90
25-10-2020, 12:28 PM
Lennon must be gone surely
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