2020-21 season non-Hibs games thread

[Pretty Boy]

That United defence cost £195M.......

[BT58]

Evra actually showing more passion in 5 minutes than the whole team in 90 minutes
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[Callum_62]

Souness is right BTW

Bailly, Shaw and pogba could've and perhaps should have all seen red

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[Magpie]

That United defence cost £195M.......

Apparently United have spent over a billion pound since Ferguson left

[Magpie]

Souness is right BTW

Bailly, Shaw and pogba could've and perhaps should have all seen red

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Shaw should definitely have seen red. Whether United were getting battered or not the ref should have shown red.

[Callum_62]

Shaw should definitely have seen red. Whether United were getting battered or not the ref should have shown red.Definately

The Bailly one was blatent for me too

Neville seemed to miss it in the replay as he thought he just leaned into it but it was the stamp after the initial contact

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[G B Young]

That is an effin disgrace for Man U. If Ole doesn't resign immediately he should be dismissed.

Always liked the guy and he was part of a fantastic United side but he's clearly way out of his depth.

The longer this goes on the more it hammers home what an extraordinary football manager Alex Ferguson was.

[Fergus52]

I don't think Spurs will win the league but they are looking better than Man City, Leicester, Man United and Chelsea at the moment.

In terms of the players mentioned, they honestly remind me of Liverpool's midfield when Klopp took over. Would anyone have bet on Jordan Henderson being a Champions League winner? Or Wijnaldum when he was at Newcastle in 2016?

Like Liverpool, the Spurs midfield have power, aggression and are good all rounders. They are there to allow the front 3 to play, and I would say Son, Kane and Bale is up there with Salah, Firmino and Mane.

Fair play mate, those are all good points!

Arsenal are my English team so I'm just a tad biased :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

Thought it was decent myself.

Bet you did. 😝

'Mon the Villa.

[Hibs90]

Since Sir Alex Ferguson left in May 2013, Manchester United have spent £1,033,530,000 on new signings.

[theonlywayisup]

Oh dear, how bad are Man United?

How much did they pay for Maguire? He's rubbish compared to Van Dyke.

[Andy74]

That is an effin disgrace for Man U. If Ole doesn't resign immediately he should be dismissed.

Always liked the guy and he was part of a fantastic United side but he's clearly way out of his depth.

The longer this goes on the more it hammers home what an extraordinary football manager Alex Ferguson was.

They finished last season in as high a position as they probably could.

Ferguson’s teams got some hammerings too. I think he deserves time because just repeatedly changing manager is not working.

The Board need to deliver some actual quality players.

[neil7908]

Fair play mate, those are all good points!

Arsenal are my English team so I'm just a tad biased :greengrin

Hahahaha, fair enough - you have a lot to look forward to this season as well!

[Magpie]

After their next game, United have Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton.

[Magpie]

Bayern Munich signing Douglas Costa as well. Some attack.

[hibee_girl]

Aston Villa 1-0 Liverpool

[Magpie]

Villa 1-0 Liverpool. Poor from Adrian.

[BT58]

After their next game, United have Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton.
Is it Newcastle first ???
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Mon the Villa

[BT58]

what a miss by Barkley....
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[Sir David Gray]

Villa 1-0 Liverpool. Poor from Adrian.

That's cheered me up.

Where's our resident scouser?

[Scouse Hibee]

That's cheered me up.

Where's our resident scouser?

I’m here, that was a penalty

[Scorrie]

SJM got away with that. That looked a pen on Salah

[Scouse Hibee]

Ffs

[hibee_girl]

2-0 Villa

[Sir David Gray]

:faf:

[Magpie]

Is it Newcastle first ???
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Mon the Villa

Yes mate

[RitchieHibs]

Some goal by Villa there. What a start they've had to their season.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The English Hearts

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😂

United have historically won trophies to justify their fans arrogance. Hearts haven’t.

[HoboHarry]

SJM got away with that. That looked a pen on Salah

I thought so on first sight but not after seeing the replay.

[Stanton Spence]

I thought so on first sight but not after seeing the replay.Same here mate, it was just SJM doing what he does best and shielding the baw with his big nine darter

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[Sir David Gray]

Who would have thought Everton and Aston Villa would have been the teams to hold onto their 100% records the longest?

[CmoantheHibs]

2-1 now. Very open game

[BT58]

Villa should have been up 4-0, Salah scores

[Magpie]

Our John!! 3-1

[Stanton Spence]

Barkley could have had a hattrick

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[Sir David Gray]

3-1

[hibee_girl]

SJM makes it 3-1

[RitchieHibs]

Liverpool's goal was coming. They've been piling on the pressure. Sloppy play by Villa in midfield led up to it. Well taken in the end up. Good Game.

[BT58]

Barkley could have had 3. SJM get in there 3-1

[Sir David Gray]

SJM makes it 3-1

That's got to be a Van Dijk own goal, surely.

[HoboHarry]

Ya beauty.....😁

[RitchieHibs]

Deflection but they all count. 3-1. Some game.

[Vault Boy]

Give it to SJM. Do the right thing.

[Scorrie]

Juve v Napoli a bit strange. Neither team has turned up...

[Stanton Spence]

That's got to be a Van Dijk own goal, surely.You would think so but his strike was on target and would have took a bit saving
Did you hear the stadium announcer? Goal scored by super John Mcginn [emoji16]

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[CmoantheHibs]

That's got to be a Van Dijk own goal, surely.
Is it not SJM goal as his shot was on target?

[Sir David Gray]

4-1

[Magpie]

Villa 4-1 Liverpool. Klopp out.

[Stanton Spence]

Oh dear

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[hibee-boys]

Villa 4th.....EPL is crazy so far this year🤷🤣

[hibee_girl]

Today has been mental in football :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant stuff, not a bad afternoon of footy

[RitchieHibs]

Wow. This could end up any scoreline. Great game.

[weecounty hibby]

Looks like a straight fight between Everton and Villa for the league. I'd be happy to see Villa coming second!!😃😃

[HoboHarry]

If villa get another I night have to go and s**g the wife to celebrate......

[heretoday]

Blimey! The no crowd thing is proving a great leveller.

[Scouse Hibee]

Give me strength.

[Jim44]

Villa 4-1 Liverpool. Klopp out.

.... Gerrard will be getting moist.:greengrin

[Gloucester Hibs]

The EPL has been great entertainment so far this season, goals galore!

[SteveHFC]

Give me strength.

They’ll still win the league mate :greengrin

[BT58]

Hope Evra is still in the studio, might cheer him up. We,ll see if Souness is greeting now !!!
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[Sioux]

Man Utd :faf:

Lost 9 goals in 2.5 games :faf:

Genuine challengers to Liverpool and Man City :faf:

Shut it Asshole

[Vault Boy]

It's no Hibs v Hamilton, but Super Sunday certainly hasn't lacked entertainment for the neutral.

[Stanton Spence]

Shut it Asshole[emoji23][emoji23]
It's the old he who laughs last saying. Not that it matters to me, my English team is Everton but I really don't worry that much about results and just enjoy watching good football and goals and it's been a super Sunday alright

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[jgl07]

That is an effin disgrace for Man U. If Ole doesn't resign immediately he should be dismissed.

Always liked the guy and he was part of a fantastic United side but he's clearly way out of his depth.

The longer this goes on the more it hammers home what an extraordinary football manager Alex Ferguson was.

Don’t blame OGS, the problems at United are far deeper than him. Ed Woodward is the face of the United disaster. Put an investment accountant in charge of signing players and this sort of thing will happen.

No doubt that OGS will be blamed and sacrificed just like Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho before him.

[Hibs90]

Souness blaming the pitch 😂

[EdinMike]

Good to see both Man U and Liverpool taking a thumping. And even sweeter to see SJM score ! This no crowds malarkey is making the EPL entertaining...

[hibee_girl]

5-1

[Magpie]

Barkley. 5-1 Villa

[Sir David Gray]

5-1

[cabbageandribs1875]

lol

[Aldo]

If villa get another I night have to go and s**g the wife to celebrate......

Good luck with that!!


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[BT58]

Villa 5, the chumps 1....

[Scorrie]

Is that Liverpool dead as a club?

[Hiber-nation]

This is unreal!

I'm struggling to recall as bad a centre back performance as that of Gomez tonight.

[easty]

Don’t blame OGS, the problems at United are far deeper than him. Ed Woodward is the face of the United disaster. Put an investment accountant in charge of signing players and this sort of thing will happen.

No doubt that OGS will be blamed and sacrificed just like Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho before him.

Moyes got nowhere near the support Ole has had

[H18 SFR]

The further up that table Villa go the more likely a bigger team buys SJM.

[cabbageandribs1875]

38 goals in 10 games over the weekend down south


make that 39

[SJNB Hibby]

The further up that table Villa go the more likely a bigger team buys SJM.

Villa hung on to Grealish when they were in the Championship for 2 years---I dont see them letting SJM go if theyre pushing for a European spot, or winning medals

[jeffers]

Good luck with that!!


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I thought HoboHarry meant his wife was a Liverpool fan and he was going to slag her :wink:

[Aldo]

I thought HoboHarry meant his wife was a Liverpool fan and he was going to slag her :wink:

[emoji848] a predictive text moment you mean?? [emoji1787][emoji1787]


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[MWHIBBIES]

The further up that table Villa go the more likely a bigger team buys SJM.

He isn't going anywhere for at least 12 months so not worth thinking about the now.

[gaz1875]

I thought Hobo Harry meant his wife was a Liverpool fan and he was going to slag her :wink:

:rotflmao::top marks

[hibee_girl]

6-2 Villa

[Magpie]

Villa 6-2 Liverpool. Grealish

[cabbageandribs1875]

:6:-:2:

[bringbackbenny]

3 deflected goals ?🤣

[EI255]

Villa are outstanding tonight.

McGinn is all over the pitch too. What a game he's having. Superb!

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[Wilson]

3 deflected goals ?🤣

Yeah. Our 6-2 is better.

[Scouse Hibee]

What a pumping 😩

[MWHIBBIES]

Liverpool obviously made mistakes but jesus, 3 horrendous deflections is crazy. Could be a totally different match.

[Scott Allan Key]

What a pumping [emoji30]Correction, presently, 6-2, Liverpool are the English Hearts.

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[jgl07]

Liverpool obviously made mistakes but jesus, 3 horrendous deflections is crazy. Could be a totally different match.
Liverpool have got what they deserved today, regardless of deflections, absolutely nothing!

[Scorrie]

Villa have some decent players. That Mings looks a really good CH

[H18 SFR]

Liverpool obviously made mistakes but jesus, 3 horrendous deflections is crazy. Could be a totally different match.

Agreed, Barkley could have score one or both of his first half sitters to make it 7-2 or 8-2.

Edit - 8-2 or 9-2.

[Magpie]

7-2 Villa. Grealish

[SteveHFC]

7-2

[Sir David Gray]

This is beautiful. 😍

[Scorrie]

This is unbelievable!

[EI255]

What a pass from McGinn for the 7th. Unbelievable.

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[supermcginn]

Grealish is absolutely brilliant.

[The Spaceman]

Most mental result in Premier League history in my book. This is absolutely mental. 7-2 and could be more.

[Scouse Hibee]

Switched it off.....goodnight.

[bigwheel]

Switched it off.....goodnight.

Ryan P feels you’re a bad loser. [emoji2][emoji6]

[EdinMike]

Unbelievable Jeff as they say !

[Tambo]

Gary Neville will be smiling now.

[HibbyAndy]

Superb

[Scorrie]

Gary Neville will be smiling now.

He said he wasn’t going to watch it after the Utd game!

[Mibbes Aye]

What a pass from McGinn for the 7th. Unbelievable.

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Passes like that just stick a few more million on his selling price. Good for us and for Saints.

[HendoDelivered]

Genuinely mortified to be a Liverpool fan tonight. What the actual ****.

[SJNB Hibby]

Villa have 27% posession!! and 7 goals... thats the craziest 2 statistics i have ever seen together

[HoboHarry]

What a difference in Villa this season compared to last. If they can keep up anything close to this level they'll be competing for Europe, not fighting relegation.

[Northernhibee]

Villa hit the bar.

[Magpie]

Liverpool getting destroyed.

[EI255]

Virgil not as good as what he's made out to be. He's been playing poorly for a while.

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[Gloucester Hibs]

Watkins should make it 8 there! What a game!

[Keyser Sauzee]

Leicester avoid relegation first season back up then go on to win the league the next season.......

[SaulGoodman]

I stuck a fiver on 8-2 when the 6th went in too :(

[Hibernia&Alba]

What a day.

Man United v Spurs


https://youtu.be/8FB9GYkIT3E

[Hibernia&Alba]

Villa V Liverpool


https://youtu.be/XbAM2_6jKY0

[Sir David Gray]

Switched it off.....goodnight.

Aw don't be like that. 🤣🤣

[Magpie]

Looking forward to MOTD tonight.

[Iggy Pope]

Virgil not as good as what he's made out to be. He's been playing poorly for a while.

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He also looks like a right tosser!

[Vault Boy]

Probably should have been 9 or 10, which is an absolutely mad thing to say.

[Callum_62]

Probably should have been 9 or 10, which is an absolutely mad thing to say.Could have easily been

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[hibee_girl]

Probably should have been 9 or 10, which is an absolutely mad thing to say.

Or even more. Barkley missed two great chances and they’ve hit the bar. Mental!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Klopp's post match interview will be something.

[speedy_gonzales]

Gary Neville will be smiling now.

https://twitter.com/GNev2/status/1312837767324467200?s=19

[Magpie]

Sweet Carolineeee

[Callum_62]

Merseyside Derby next too! [emoji44][emoji44]

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[Northernhibee]

I wonder if today may cause someone like Man Utd to panic bid for SJM?

[Stuarty1875]

Football :not worth

what a crazy day

[GRA]

Wonder what odds you would have got for those two results from the Liverpool & Man Utd games. Mental!

[Callum_62]

I wonder if today may cause someone like Man Utd to panic bid for SJM?120 million bid tomorrow.

Well, they did pay 80 million for Mcguire

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[cabbageandribs1875]

the highlights/replays will last longer than the game

[Vault Boy]

Merseyside Derby next too! [emoji44][emoji44]

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Oooft, didn't realise that. 🤤

[Magpie]

Merseyside Derby next too! [emoji44][emoji44]

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0-0 probably 😂

[whiskyhibby]

Unbelievable result Villa, good to see SJM back to his best, Barclay should have had a treble, Liverpool lucky to keep it below double figures.😂

[Scorrie]

I wonder if today may cause someone like Man Utd to panic bid for SJM?

They need a centre half desperately. Porteous for 65m?!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sweet Carolineeee


so good
so good
so good

[whiskyhibby]

Apparently the first time Man U and Liverpool have both shipped 6 goals on the same day!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Wonder what odds you would have got for those two results from the Liverpool & Man Utd games. Mental!

Bookies usually cap crazy scores at 500/1 odds. So 250,000/1 double.

[Iggy Pope]

Bookies usually cap crazy scores at 500/1 odds. So 250,000/1 double.

I reckon a pound on that would’ve brought the polis to the door.

[Sylar]

Glad the Villa Liverpool game was decent. I'd been looking forward to the Juventus vs Napoli game, but Napoli ended up being denied the right to travel. Juve continued to warm up and were ready to take the pitch.

Barcelona vs Sevilla game has been decent too - very well balanced.

[neil7908]

Amazing weekend of football with the Hibs win on Friday and now tonight. Helped by the fact that almost all my bets came in!

[Iggy Pope]

Glad the Villa Liverpool game was decent. I'd been looking forward to the Juventus vs Napoli game, but Napoli ended up being denied the right to travel. Juve continued to warm up and were ready to take the pitch.

Barcelona vs Sevilla game has been decent too - very well balanced.

Juventus were warming up and Napoli hadn’t left?

[zitelli62]

Villa amazing sjm brilliant get In there villa my second team.

[The 90+2]

If Super John wasn’t the nicest guy in the world can you imagine the swaggering into Scotland training tomorrow telling Champions League EPL winner Scotland Captain Robertson he shouldn’t even be training on the same pitch as him 😀

Aston Villa’s best result in what? 35 years and no fans there and chucked out the pub in half hour.

[J-C]

Missed the Villa game tonight, I compromised with the wife and watched the United game and we're watching a film right now, I'll see it on MOTD later. Football today has been mental score wise and as someone said maybe no fans are making a difference.

[Andy74]

Grealish is absolutely brilliant.

Yep, always a few comments on here that he’s over rated but he was sensational tonight.

[Pretty Boy]

Man Utd struggling
Economic turmoil
A Tory government
A virus sweeping the planet
Everton and Aston Villa at the top end of the English league

It could be the 1980s all over again.

[Scorrie]

Man Utd struggling
Economic turmoil
A Tory government
A virus sweeping the planet
Everton and Aston Villa at the top end of the English league

It could be the 1980s all over again.

Oh god not Alex Miller as well...?

[Stanton Spence]

Apparently the first time Man U and Liverpool have both shipped 6 goals on the same day!That's not really that surprising a stat. How often do they concede six goals each in a season never mind the same day

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[Stanton Spence]

Fantastic to hear Klopp praise Villa for being so good especially Watkins, rather than blame his own side for brutal defending

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[H18 SFR]

Man Utd struggling
Economic turmoil
A Tory government
A virus sweeping the planet
Everton and Aston Villa at the top end of the English league

It could be the 1980s all over again.

I’d go back to 1980’s football in a millisecond.

[The 90+2]

Fantastic to hear Klopp praise Villa for being so good especially Watkins, rather than blame his own side for brutal defending

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I kind of got the feeling he was just enjoying the game.

Same with Pep yesterday when he was interviewed “great game, wasn’t it” brilliant to see.

[Hermit Crab]

There’s a popular Man Utd fan missing from this thread.


Theres a popular Liverpool fan missing from this forum now as well. :tee hee:

[Sylar]

Juventus were warming up and Napoli hadn’t left?

Napoli were sat on the runway apparently when the decision came through that they weren't allowed to travel. However, Serie A didn't call the game off so Juve continued with their preparations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54408861

[speedy_gonzales]

Missed the Villa game tonight, I compromised with the wife and watched the United game and we're watching a film right now, I'll see it on MOTD later. Football today has been mental score wise and as someone said maybe no fans are making a difference.

What is this witchcraft you speak of???

[Bobby's Cinema]

Missed the Villa game tonight, I compromised with the wife and watched the United game and we're watching a film right now, I'll see it on MOTD later. Football today has been mental score wise and as someone said maybe no fans are making a difference.
Same! Looks like incredibly enough we peaked too early

[CentreLine]

I’d go back to 1980’s football in a millisecond.

Not the Hibs version though. Of course there were a few moments but 1980’s were a trial as a fan

[The Modfather]

I wonder if today may cause someone like Man Utd to panic bid for SJM?

Man U is probably a footballing step down for McGinn these days 😀

[EI255]

I see Mr Hickey and his club got gubbed today off a club I've never heard of before.

Pop!

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[Callum_62]

Sky just apologed for the stereotype of the "latin" culture when Souness was describing Lamela and Martial incident

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[Sir David Gray]

Theres a popular Liverpool fan missing from this forum now as well. :tee hee:

#prayforscousehibee

[Pretty Boy]

Sky just apologed for the stereotype of the "latin" culture when Souness was describing Lamela and Martial incident

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I remember Alex McLeish getting pulled up for referencing Dundees 'Latin temperament' after we pumped them nearly 20 years ago.

[Hermit Crab]

I see Mr Hickey and his club got gubbed today off a club I've never heard of before.

Pop!

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Gubbed? They lost 1-0...

[Moulin Yarns]

There’s a popular Man Utd fan missing from this thread.

You reap what you sow as they. 😂

[Hermit Crab]

Sky just apologed for the stereotype of the "latin" culture when Souness was describing Lamela and Martial incident

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Ffs. You just can't say anything these days.

[Moulin Yarns]

Villa have 27% posession!! and 7 goals... thats the craziest 2 statistics i have ever seen together

Efficiency

[hibee-boys]

Sky just apologed for the stereotype of the "latin" culture when Souness was describing Lamela and Martial incident

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What was said?....hoping not to offend anybody on here🙈

[Sir David Gray]

Sky just apologed for the stereotype of the "latin" culture when Souness was describing Lamela and Martial incident

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Steve McClaren (I think) made a similar comment a couple of weeks ago during a commentary on Talksport which didn't merit a mention.

[Andy74]

What was said?....hoping not to offend anybody on here🙈

He was right. He said that the reaction of Lamela was the type of thing that was part of the game in Latin countries and shouldn’t be part of the British game.

[hibee-boys]

Ffs. You just can't say anything these days.

Yip....i'll be expecting an apology every time someone suggests us Scots are grumpy, unhealthy and excessive drinkers!🤔

[BILLYHIBS]

Gubbed? They lost 1-0...

And had a goal ruled out by VAR so really 1-1??

[hibee-boys]

He was right. He said that the reaction of Lamela was the type of thing that was part of the game in Latin countries and shouldn’t be part of the British game.

That warranted an apology!.....world really has gone mad.

[Magpie]

Chelsea only conceding 15 goals in 04/05 was a great achievement. Close second to Arsenal’s Invincibles record imo. Don’t think I’ll see either happen again in my lifetime.

[Sir David Gray]

He was right. He said that the reaction of Lamela was the type of thing that was part of the game in Latin countries and shouldn’t be part of the British game.

If that's all that was said then apologising for that is disgraceful.

You just need to watch a game from the likes of Argentina or Brazil etc to know that kind of behaviour is rife in their game.

What about if you're offended by the apology?

[Scouse Hibee]

You reap what you sow as they. 😂

You give it out, you have to take it. I’ll survive 😁

[Hiber-nation]

I see Mr Hickey and his club got gubbed today off a club I've never heard of before.

Pop!

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I hope he does well. Young Scottish player trying to further his career. It was actually 1-0 so no gubbing.

[Scouse Hibee]

An Everton just phoned the Covid snitch line to inform that his neighbours had let in seven.

From one of my blue mates 😡

[Stanton Spence]

I kind of got the feeling he was just enjoying the game.

Same with Pep yesterday when he was interviewed “great game, wasn’t it” brilliant to see.Brilliant stuff to watch as a neutral mate [emoji1303]
I got the impression fae Pep yesterday that he seen it as a privalage to share the points with Beilsa [emoji23] you could see the massive respect he's got for him tho, his face lit up when speaking about him

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[Magpie]

Does anyone know why a lot of players are making an A shape with their fingers when celebrating a goal?

[Callum_62]

If that's all that was said then apologising for that is disgraceful.

You just need to watch a game from the likes of Argentina or Brazil etc to know that kind of behaviour is rife in their game.

What about if you're offended by the apology?https://twitter.com/oliver_todd/status/1312860296554389509?s=19

https://twitter.com/osvaldooardiles/status/1312826234603278337?s=19

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[The 90+2]

Brilliant stuff to watch as a neutral mate [emoji1303]
I got the impression fae Pep yesterday that he seen it as a privalage to share the points with Beilsa [emoji23] you could see the massive respect he's got for him tho, his face lit up when speaking about him

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Its amazing mate. And aye, I think Beilsa is a hero to Pep, still no idea how it didn’t work out for him as Argentina manager all they years ago. Both them in fact all three managers named there all seem amazing people too just enjoying football. Imagine that in contrast to Dr Football, Neil McCann and Neilson.

[Stanton Spence]

Its amazing mate. And aye, I think Beilsa is a hero to Pep, still no idea how it didn’t work out for him as Argentina manager all they years ago. Both them in fact all three managers named there all seem amazing people too just enjoying football. Imagine that in contrast to Dr Football, Neil McCann and Neilson.Beilsa has forgotten more about fitbaw than that three know put together bud

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[speedy_gonzales]

Does anyone know why a lot of players are making an A shape with their fingers when celebrating a goal?

Represents A-Star apparently,,,,I thought it was for Aston Villa tonight!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/jan/09/theknowledge.sport

[The 90+2]

Beilsa has forgotten more about fitbaw than that three know put together bud

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👌 hes the master.

[Magpie]

Represents A-Star apparently,,,,I thought it was for Aston Villa tonight!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/jan/09/theknowledge.sport

Thanks for sharing that 👍🏻

[Andy74]

https://twitter.com/oliver_todd/status/1312860296554389509?s=19

https://twitter.com/osvaldooardiles/status/1312826234603278337?s=19

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Load of nonsense. He wasn't stereotyping all latin players, he was saying certain things are part of the game in Latin countries more than here, which is a fair observation. He did also clarify that he had played in Italy and so he has first hand experience to compare.

Football is different in different leagues and some ways of playing and some behaviours are more part of some leagues than others. I don't believe it is offensive to polnt that out.

[Kato]

Load of nonsense. He wasn't stereotyping all latin players, he was saying certain things are part of the game in Latin countries more than here, which is a fair observation. He did also clarify that he had played in Italy and so he has first hand experience to compare.

Football is different in different leagues and some ways of playing and some behaviours are more part of some leagues than others. I don't believe it is offensive to polnt that out.

Footballers dive and feign injury all over the world.

[Callum_62]

Footballers dive and feign injury all over the world.We British dont

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[Kato]

We British dont

We Scots do.

[Callum_62]

We Scots do.Especially that Fraser Fyvie.

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[Vault Boy]

Footballers dive and feign injury all over the world.

Exactly.

Without even leaving the England national team, Dele, Kane, Rashford, Grealish, Sterling and Maddison have all been caught diving - yet for some reason there still exists this sense of British arrogance that simulation is beneath us. Nonsense.

I'd rather it wasn't part of football altogether, but to label it as being inherently part of a specific region, rather than just football itself, is wrong.

[Wakeyhibee]

Exactly.

Without even leaving the England national team, Dele, Kane, Rashford, Grealish, Sterling and Maddison have all been caught diving - yet for some reason there still exists this sense of British arrogance that simulation is beneath us. Nonsense.

I'd rather it wasn't part of football altogether, but to label it as being inherently part of a specific region, rather than just football itself, is wrong.

Yes it has crept into our game more and more in my lifetime.
However it was rare 30 years ago when it was commo place in places like Italian and South American football.

I understand Souness's comments from that era it's his experience and mine as a supporter too. Unfortunately he should have acknowledged we now do the same these days.

[jgl07]

Pogba just seems to swan about the pitch playing for himself IMO.

Yes, like the scoreline, he is a Sick Swan.

[Since452]

EPL farmers league. My nan could defend better than that

[JimBHibees]

Yes it has crept into our game more and more in my lifetime.
However it was rare 30 years ago when it was commo place in places like Italian and South American football.

I understand Souness's comments from that era it's his experience and mine as a supporter too. Unfortunately he should have acknowledged we now do the same these days.

I think that is fair he has played in Italy and his experience will reflect it however to not then say it was widespread all over the world was wrong imo. The way he said it was as if British football was better than that which of course it isn't especially when you have players like Sterling diving about 5 times a game. Crass way of putting it and the apology was merited imo.

[The Modfather]

On the Souness debate, is he not talking about the way Lamela went down rather than a “dive” as such. British players are as likely as anyone else to dive for a penalty. I remember Michael Owen tying himself in knots to justify a pretty blatant dive by Rashford not that long ago.

I’d still agree that going down like you’ve been shot after that slap, while not unique to them, that kind of gamesmanship is something generally more prevalent in South America than Britain, or elsewhere.

[Scouse Hibee]

I completely understood the context in which Souness was describing the antics and don’t think he has anything to apologise about. In regard to folk saying diving is also in the British game, I agree it is, but whenever I watch other foreign leagues I see far more exaggerated falls, numerous rolls and feigning injury than I see in our games.

[Keith_M]

Here's a big shout out to... Sir David Gray and Scouse Hibeee




:faf:

[Andy74]

I completely understood the context in which Souness was describing the antics and don’t think he has anything to apologise about. In regard to folk saying diving is also in the British game, I agree it is, but whenever I watch other foreign leagues I see far more exaggerated falls, numerous rolls and feigning injury than I see in our games.

He also wasn’t saying it didn’t happen here. He said it had crept in to the game here too. His comments were also more about the acceptance of it being part of the game. I think it is certainly true that there isn’t a second thought in some countries to this whereas we still tend to have a debate about it being wrong.

[Magpie]

Arsenal have made famous mascot gunnersauras redundant as part of their cost cutting process. Legend

[660]

Disgusting comments from sounness. Pesky foreigners bringing their sneaky ways to honourable British football. What xenophobic bollocks.

[Since90+2]

I half jokingly said to my mate a few weeks ago I think Everton could win the league. Wish I had put a few pound on I.

[Since452]

This is why I couldn't have a second team, or an English team. Hibs put me through the ringer enough without adding another clubs woes into the mix

[CockneyRebel]

I completely understood the context in which Souness was describing the antics and don’t think he has anything to apologise about. In regard to folk saying diving is also in the British game, I agree it is, but whenever I watch other foreign leagues I see far more exaggerated falls, numerous rolls and feigning injury than I see in our games.


Before theses antics became common place in UK football we had seen them in European and international matches. The latin and south American teams were the worst offenders (even the Brazilians were not averse to a coordinated simulation)). The growing number of players taking their services abroad with the freedom of movement legislation meant that, because they got away with a lot of it, it got copied more and more by our own players.
Some of them deserve a Bafta.

[Scouse Hibee]

Here's a big shout out to... Sir David Gray and Scouse Hibeee




:faf:


Cheers mate, nothing like a bit of banter to lift the gloom 😁

[Scouse Hibee]

This is why I couldn't have a second team, or an English team. Hibs put me through the ringer enough without adding another clubs woes into the mix

It’s really not that hard......honest 😂

[weecounty hibby]

It’s really not that hard......honest 😂
It is if that second team is Everton!! Still the league title this year will make up for everything 😀

[Scouse Hibee]

It is if that second team is Everton!! Still the league title this year will make up for everything 😀

😂 No chance.

[weecounty hibby]

😂 No chance.

Being a Hibby and a Toffee does tend to make you an optimist. And also pretty miserable a lot too

[Keith_M]

Cheers mate, nothing like a bit of banter to lift the gloom 😁


I know, it was actually quite funny.

:greengrin


Just remember, it's only a game.

[Iggy Pope]

Steve McClaren (I think) made a similar comment a couple of weeks ago during a commentary on Talksport which didn't merit a mention.

Ah. But he’d say it in Dutch, disnae count.

[theonlywayisup]

I see that Ha Ha Heart are playing tonight. Not really been following the lower leagues. Any thoughts on how what we can expect?

[Keith_M]

I see that Ha Ha Heart are playing tonight. Not really been following the lower leagues. Any thoughts on how what we can expect?


Hoof, dive, moan, foul, dive, foul, hoof...

[mal]

I see that Ha Ha Heart are playing tonight. Not really been following the lower leagues. Any thoughts on how what we can expect?

Expect to learn nothing, however the game turns out. It's not so long ago that some people here had concluded that Doidge and Newell were duds based on what were being treated as pre-season friendlies. I'd say the same applies with the lower league sides at this stage of their season. The amount of games Hearts already have under their belts should stand them in better stead than ICT who have played (I think) one match but even if it's a resounding home win it will mean nothing in terms of the league campaign.

[SHODAN]

Hope Hearts' season gets off to a fantastically miserable start.

[Wilson]

Expect to learn nothing, however the game turns out. It's not so long ago that some people here had concluded that Doidge and Newell were duds based on what were being treated as pre-season friendlies. I'd say the same applies with the lower league sides at this stage of their season. The amount of games Hearts already have under their belts should stand them in better stead than ICT who have played (I think) one match but even if it's a resounding home win it will mean nothing in terms of the league campaign.

That is a very selective memory you have there. What about those that had concluded Vela was a dud? What about the fact that these games were brushed off by some as pre season friendlies but proved to be very portentous about Heckingbottom's reign?

I think you're being a bit naughty digging up old arguments.

I agree though that one match in isolation wont tell us much...

[Magpie]

Hope Hearts' season gets off to a fantastically miserable start.

Me too, but Inverness haven’t played a game since March. They haven’t played any friendlies leading up to this game. I’ve put some money on Hearts to win by more than 1 goal at 6/4.

[mal]

That is a very selective memory you have there. What about those that had concluded Vela was a dud? What about the fact that these games were brushed off by some as pre season friendlies but proved to be very portentous about Heckingbottom's reign?

I think you're being a bit naughty digging up old arguments.

I agree though that one match in isolation wont tell us much...

I didn't participate in any such arguments at the time so I'm not digging anything up, merely pointing out the fact (that you agree with in your last sentence) that you don't learn anything of note from such games, while providing an example of why that's the case.

[PatHead]

Me too, but Inverness haven’t played a game since March. They haven’t played any friendlies leading up to this game. I’ve put some money on Hearts to win by more than 1 goal at 6/4.

Thought they played Elgin at the weekend?

[MWHIBBIES]

That is a very selective memory you have there. What about those that had concluded Vela was a dud? What about the fact that these games were brushed off by some as pre season friendlies but proved to be very portentous about Heckingbottom's reign?

I think you're being a bit naughty digging up old arguments.

I agree though that one match in isolation wont tell us much...

We won both matches Vela played, 3-0 and 2-0. No one was calling him a dud after those games. We also comfortably won the group. They basically are pre season matches. The nonsense on here was way ott imo.

[scoopyboy]

Me too, but Inverness haven’t played a game since March. They haven’t played any friendlies leading up to this game. I’ve put some money on Hearts to win by more than 1 goal at 6/4.

They've definitely been playing friendlies.

Their latest was against Elgin City at the weekend.

John Robertson was in the papers and on BBC website saying that the showering arrangements were appalling, Elgin players didn't get one.

[Magpie]

They've definitely been playing friendlies.

Their latest was against Elgin City at the weekend.

John Robertson was in the papers and on BBC website saying that the showering arrangements were appalling, Elgin players didn't get one.

Ah right I wasn’t aware. I only came across this article when looking up on them.

https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/sport/caley-thistle-furlough-will-rule-out-friendlies-205343/

[Moulin Yarns]

Me too, but Inverness haven’t played a game since March. They haven’t played any friendlies leading up to this game. I’ve put some money on Hearts to win by more than 1 goal at 6/4.

Ahem.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54425686

[JimBHibees]

Me too, but Inverness haven’t played a game since March. They haven’t played any friendlies leading up to this game. I’ve put some money on Hearts to win by more than 1 goal at 6/4.

Why have ict not played?

Ict are bound to be well up for it after being cheated in last seasons cup. Robbo will make sure his thugs will be kicking anything that moves like our quarter final earlier this year.

[Jim44]

Can’t see the Jambos losing tonight but I think they’ll be under pressure to put in a decisive performance. If they don’t get a goal in the first twenty minutes they’ll get a wee bit nervous.

[Iggy Pope]

We won both matches Vela played, 3-0 and 2-0. No one was calling him a dud after those games. We also comfortably won the group. They basically are pre season matches. The nonsense on here was way ott imo.

Agreed and in saying that there’s still a cup to play for. Some of the stick Doidge got from one or two on here this time last year was close to the end of this wee forum for me, it was appalling. He went from being “raped” by the Alloa defence to having no real right to buy a bottle of wine in Morrisons

[Smartie]

Can’t see the Jambos losing tonight but I think they’ll be under pressure to put in a decisive performance. If they don’t get a goal in the first twenty minutes they’ll get a wee bit nervous.

I think they'll be better off without the fans there for this one.

An anxious Tynecastle can work against Hearts in a big way when things aren't going their way.

Ref - humiliation of relegation 2019/2020 season

[tamig]

Why have ict not played?

Ict are bound to be well up for it after being cheated in last seasons cup. Robbo will make sure his thugs will be kicking anything that moves like our quarter final earlier this year.

They’re part of the exclusive maroon pound club though - so an honourable draw could be on the cards.

[tamig]

Agreed and in saying that there’s still a cup to play for. Some of the stick Doidge got from one or two on here this time last year was close to the end of this wee forum for me, it was appalling. He went from being “raped” by the Alloa defence to having no real right to buy a bottle of wine in Morrisons

It was scandalous. But I’m sure he was an Asda man 😀

[cabbageandribs1875]

Edin city 0 Livingston 1
Gimps 0 Caley 0

[green day]

Christ, that Olly Lee is still playing for the gimps.

Thats the only excitement so far - dire game

[04Sauzee]

NaturalOrder74 NaturalOrder74

Posted 6 minutes ago
Wighton tearing this defence to shreds

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[04Sauzee]

Sooperstar Sooperstar

Posted 6 minutes ago
Plenty attacking intent so far. Not a bad opening 15 minutes of the season.

[Vault Boy]

If this was the first football match I'd watched, I'd have taken up rugby or tennis instead. An embarrassingly bad impression of a football team are Hearts.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Albion Rovers 1 Ayr 0
Edin City 0 Livvy 2
Morton 1 QoS 0
Stirling 0 Arbroath 1

[green day]

NaturalOrder74 NaturalOrder74

Posted 6 minutes ago
Wighton tearing this defence to shreds

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Must be on drugs, wighton is anonymous

[cabbageandribs1875]

Halkett looks like he's lost a stone or two in weight

[Hibby70]

Even the piped in crowd will start booing soon.

[Jim44]

Reading their match thread on KB. They’re wetting themselves at John Robertson’s Hearts allegiance in his pre-match interview where apparently he finished with an “only Hearts” gesture. I wouldn’t be too happy about that if I had the misfortune to support ICT.:greengrin

[green day]

If this is the standard that Hearts come up against, they will be in for a wee surprise when they play a team that doesnt shell it aimlessly from the back to front.

ICT are mince and being honest, I would want 4 against them tonight.

[Hibby70]

God imagine having a Hearts calendar on your kitchen wall and Aidy White is the November picture.

Face that would make an onion greet.

[Kato]

an “only Hearts” gesture

Arm at 45 degrees, hand straight out?

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[Scorrie]

Stephen Craigan has a bizzare love in with the yams. Very strange...

[Northernhibee]

Quite a good game this though.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Annan beating hamilton 2-0

[Sylar]

Quite a good game this though.

Would you mind providing me with the contact details of your dealer? Because that's some good **** you're on if you think this is a good game :na na:

I've never seen two more horribly incompetent teams sharing a field. 6 is the most amount of consecutive passes I've counted before either side gives the ball away or a free kick is awarded.