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A Hi-Bee
03-09-2022, 06:25 PM
Villa barely been in this................

1-1 great goal

As he used to say "it's a funny old game Saint"
:greengrin

LewysGot2
03-09-2022, 06:34 PM
If Arsenal cam win this weekend they will have had a flying start

MWHIBBIES
03-09-2022, 06:37 PM
If Arsenal cam win this weekend they will have had a flying start

Yep. Huge one for both sides tomorrow. Hopefully a cracker. Arsenal ravaged by injuries though, so they'd probably take a point now.

hibsbollah
03-09-2022, 06:45 PM
Five defeats out of six now for the Biglies

Five Big Huge Famous defeats

But they all felt like wins, that’s what counts.

Lago
03-09-2022, 07:00 PM
Watching the managers being interviewed after OF game, Celtic manager in front of sponsor board, Rangers no board, Rangers still playing silly bug..rs re Chinch sponsorship.

JamesHFC
03-09-2022, 07:01 PM
And yet shouldve won it with that coutinho wonder goal the ref blew for 'offside' about 1 second before it hit top bins!

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Not sure why the linesman was in a rush to call offside with VAR there. Villa robbed.

007
03-09-2022, 07:15 PM
Five defeats out of six now for the Biglies

Five Big Huge Famous defeats

Neilsen using the fatigue excuse again like he did after Kilmarnock papped them out of the cup.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/crgj7xgn2v4o

Don't see how players can be fatigued after so few matches. Maybe it's a case of Neilsen inadvertantly using psychology on them. The more he keeps saying they're fatigued, the more they believe it. Hes been saying it since their pre-season game v Crawley.

https://youtu.be/9IGTFbK5LQo

Callum_62
03-09-2022, 07:21 PM
Neilsen using the fatigue excuse again like he did after Kilmarnock papped them out of the cup.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/crgj7xgn2v4o

Don't see how players can be fatigued after so few matches. Maybe it's a case of Neilsen inadvertantly using psychology on them. The more he keeps saying they're fatigued, the more they believe it. Hes been saying it since their pre-season game v Crawley.

https://youtu.be/9IGTFbK5LQoHave they played much more games than us?

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Sir David Gray
03-09-2022, 07:24 PM
Have they played much more games than us?

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One less.

Scorrie
03-09-2022, 07:26 PM
Watching the managers being interviewed after OF game, Celtic manager in front of sponsor board, Rangers no board, Rangers still playing silly bug..rs re Chinch sponsorship.

If I was Cinch, I would be happy with that. Who’d want to be associated with a horrible club who’ve just been pumped in their biggest match

HoboHarry
03-09-2022, 07:42 PM
Watching the managers being interviewed after OF game, Celtic manager in front of sponsor board, Rangers no board, Rangers still playing silly bug..rs re Chinch sponsorship.

They are broke and in the FIFA crosshairs for Financal Fair play misbehavior and yet they won't cooperate with sponsors. Immeasurably stupid conduct.

LunasBoots
03-09-2022, 07:53 PM
They are broke and in the FIFA crosshairs for Financal Fair play misbehavior and yet they won't cooperate with sponsors. Immeasurably stupid conduct.

Yup, Rangers fans wondering why they can't recruit like Celtic. Forget the loans and debts they have to pay back, basket case of a club.

007
03-09-2022, 07:59 PM
Have they played much more games than us?

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1 less I think. 6 League, 1 LC & 2 in Europe to our 6 League and 4 LC.

Lancs Harp
03-09-2022, 08:05 PM
Yup, Rangers fans wondering why they can't recruit like Celtic. Forget the loans and debts they have to pay back, basket case of a club.

Its a difficult market for them trying to find players who will sign up to their sectarian and bigotted "values".

Hibernia&Alba
03-09-2022, 08:05 PM
They are broke and in the FIFA crosshairs for Financal Fair play misbehavior and yet they won't cooperate with sponsors. Immeasurably stupid conduct.

But **** them. As a Fenian I will take their pain every time. They represent the worst of Scotland. I hate them and their bigotry, and I hope they suffer the consequences.

HoboHarry
03-09-2022, 08:13 PM
But **** them. As a Fenian, I will take their pain every time. They represent the worst of Scotland. I hate them and their bigotry, and I hope they suffer the consequences.

I hope the khants go bust and fold forever. You'd hear my laughter for days....

Hibernia&Alba
03-09-2022, 08:16 PM
I hope the khants go bust and fold forever. You'd hear my laughter for days....

Absolutely :top marks

Rumble de Thump
03-09-2022, 08:49 PM
Congratulations to Hearts on another fantastic defeat. Can't help but be a little bit jealous.

Sir David Gray
03-09-2022, 10:00 PM
Absolutely disgraceful decision to rule out West Ham's second goal.

Scandal.

Iain G
03-09-2022, 10:01 PM
Absolutely disgraceful decision to rule out West Ham's second goal.

Scandal.

I love seeing Moyes irate though, arrogant sod! 🤣

Zambernardi1875
03-09-2022, 10:04 PM
I love seeing Moyes irate though, arrogant sod! 🤣

I’ve never thought of David Moyes as arrogant

Smartie
03-09-2022, 10:04 PM
That’s about as bad as a decision gets.

I’m finding it hard to believe quite how much of a pig’s ear they’ve made of VAR in England.

hibsbollah
03-09-2022, 10:06 PM
Absolutely disgraceful decision to rule out West Ham's second goal.

Scandal.

I don’t know how as a ref you can watch that on a screen and think it’s a foul and change your mind. I just don’t understand it.

VAR has been a failure.

Sir David Gray
03-09-2022, 10:29 PM
That’s about as bad as a decision gets.

I’m finding it hard to believe quite how much of a pig’s ear they’ve made of VAR in England.

Yep and you can bet on your life that it won't be implemented any better up here either.

If anything they'll find a way to make things even more shambolic than they are in England.

Hibernia&Alba
03-09-2022, 11:13 PM
Absolutely disgraceful decision to rule out West Ham's second goal.

Scandal.

Yes, it was awful.

Aldo
04-09-2022, 06:47 AM
Just watched the incident and how can that be a foul?? Outrageous.


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easty
04-09-2022, 07:08 AM
The West Ham and Newcastle goals ruled out by VAR absolutely should have stood.

The disallowed Villa goal, the linesman has made an arse of it, but the whistle went and the City players stopped. If the whistle doesn’t go, Ederson saves Coutinhos shot. Probably.

BILLYHIBS
04-09-2022, 10:13 AM
I don’t know how as a ref you can watch that on a screen and think it’s a foul and change your mind. I just don’t understand it.

VAR has been a failure.

Absolute shocking decision a disgrace

VAR is ruining the game

MWHIBBIES
04-09-2022, 11:09 AM
Absolute shocking decision a disgrace

VAR is ruining the game

It really isn't.

Do you blame the oven if you burn the dinner? Or is that user error?

VAR is run by officials. They are the ones at fault.

hibsbollah
04-09-2022, 11:17 AM
It really isn't.

Do you blame the oven if you burn the dinner? Or is that user error?

VAR is run by officials. They are the ones at fault.

VAR places doubt in the referees mind. The individuals make the decisions yes, but the VAR system is making those decisions more difficult.

And the delays it’s causing are ruining the experience as a spectator. Time to end the failed experiment.

Jim44
04-09-2022, 11:20 AM
It really isn't.

Do you blame the oven if you burn the dinner? Or is that user error?

VAR is run by officials. They are the ones at fault.

You’re factually correct but as some users are incompetent/biased/corrupt or a combination of those, the system is flawed and not worth using. How can you ensure complete objectivity when it’s open to abuse?
As I said in another thread, VAR in the Scottish Premiership will probably become a vehicle for vindicating and consolidating Old Firm bias and dominance. Problems will arise only in Old Firm derbies.

hibsbollah
04-09-2022, 11:52 AM
You’re factually correct but as some users are incompetent/biased/corrupt or a combination of those, the system is flawed and not worth using. How can you ensure complete objectivity when it’s open to abuse?
As I said in another thread, VAR in the Scottish Premiership will probably become a vehicle for vindicating and consolidating Old Firm bias and dominance. Problems will arise only in Old Firm derbies.

:agree: I think VAR is being properly scrutinized in England at the moment because there isn’t any widespread bias towards the big clubs or any football establishment. Certainly down there football media types don’t seem to hold any strong bias to the clubs they were associated with. Up here, VAR will strengthen old firm bias because only certain incidents will be looked at and those decisions will be scrutinized by a media who (most of us agree) have an interest in keeping their mates in the old firm happy.

Dmas
04-09-2022, 01:00 PM
I think Brendan Rodgers is hitting his expiry date, Brighton to win this

Dmas
04-09-2022, 01:03 PM
I think Brendan Rodgers is hitting his expiry date, Brighton to win this

😳

cabbageandribs1875
04-09-2022, 01:05 PM
53 seconds Brighton 0 Leicester 1


leicester keeper trying his best to level things up


9 mins wan-wan

Mikey_1875
04-09-2022, 01:17 PM
Four Leicester players jogging back there. Don’t think there is much appetite to fight for Rodgers

Dmas
04-09-2022, 01:17 PM
53 seconds Brighton 0 Leicester 1


leicester keeper trying his best to level things up


9 mins wan-wan

2-1 wheels are off at Leicester

cabbageandribs1875
04-09-2022, 01:20 PM
2-1 wheels are off at Leicester


should have played vardy :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
04-09-2022, 01:35 PM
33 mins twa-twa done the right thing leaving vardy out







:)



wow pick that one out 3-2.... VAR checking

VAR says NAW 2-2

green day
04-09-2022, 02:09 PM
VAR is pish..................

BILLYHIBS
04-09-2022, 02:10 PM
Oh I say !

Another peach of a goal wiped out by VAR

Brighton 2 v 2 Leicester City

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:13 PM
33 mins twa-twa done the right thing leaving vardy out







:)



wow pick that one out 3-2.... VAR checking

VAR says NAW 2-2

Brilliant strike as it was definitely the right decision imo the offside player tried to play the ball.

Jones28
04-09-2022, 02:14 PM
Oh that’s a real shame for the scorer, it was a beauty.

I don’t really see how he can be deemed to be interfering with play if he doesn’t touch the ball.

DaveF
04-09-2022, 02:17 PM
Brilliant strike as it was definitely the right decision imo the offside player tried to play the ball.

It's not a clear and obvious error though. It's needed a forensic examination of millimetres to rule out a cracking goal. Totally wrong IMO.

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:18 PM
It's not a clear and obvious error though. It's needed a forensic examination of millimetres to rule out a cracking goal. Totally wrong IMO.

Looked clearly offside

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Oh that’s a real shame for the scorer, it was a beauty.

I don’t really see how he can be deemed to be interfering with play if he doesn’t touch the ball.

He tried an overhead kick

Jones28
04-09-2022, 02:26 PM
He tried an overhead kick

He didn’t influence the ball though.

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:29 PM
Trossard is a cracking player

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:31 PM
He didn’t influence the ball though.

He influenced the game by trying to play the ball imo.

Jack Hackett
04-09-2022, 02:32 PM
Trossard is a cracking player

:agree:

Brighton are a cracking team

J-C
04-09-2022, 02:35 PM
I wonder if Brendan may walk after this, he's had a go at the hierarchy in the last few games about not being prepared and recruitment etc, he wants to challenge top 6 not struggle down the bottom.

Jones28
04-09-2022, 02:36 PM
He influenced the game by trying to play the ball imo.

I’m not sure what the rules are tbh. I think it’s probably because such a good goal was scored 😂

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 02:37 PM
Antony starting for United. Other than Partey missing its a full strength team for Arsenal.

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:39 PM
I’m not sure what the rules are tbh. I think it’s probably because such a good goal was scored 😂

Could be right :greengrin

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 02:42 PM
I wonder if Brendan may walk after this, he's had a go at the hierarchy in the last few games about not being prepared and recruitment etc, he wants to challenge top 6 not struggle down the bottom.

Have they actually signed anyone decent in the window. Surprise to see them having Danny Ward as keeper after Schmeichel left seems a big difference in quality there.

Dmas
04-09-2022, 02:48 PM
Have they actually signed anyone decent in the window. Surprise to see them having Danny Ward as keeper after Schmeichel left seems a big difference in quality there.

Messed that up himself was always saying he had 2 no.1s how can u go wax 10-15m on a schmeichel replacement after that.
I think Rodgers is a cracking coach but I don’t think he’s good in the transfer market, because of that I think he has a shelf life at clubs and this could well be his limit

J-C
04-09-2022, 02:54 PM
Have they actually signed anyone decent in the window. Surprise to see them having Danny Ward as keeper after Schmeichel left seems a big difference in quality there.


Just Wout Faes from Reims who is Fofana's replacement and a keeper from Cardiff as backup. They're sitting bottom of the league with only 1 point, shoogly peg time.

HendoDelivered
04-09-2022, 02:56 PM
Brighton are a class side these days. Potters done a great job. Only a matter of time before a big club comes in for him.

Jack Hackett
04-09-2022, 02:56 PM
Justice for MacAllister... brilliant free kick

MWHIBBIES
04-09-2022, 02:56 PM
Brenden getting found out a bit. Decent manager but wont get another big shot because of things like this.

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 02:56 PM
That be Rodgers away.

The Modfather
04-09-2022, 03:01 PM
Have they actually signed anyone decent in the window. Surprise to see them having Danny Ward as keeper after Schmeichel left seems a big difference in quality there.

He’ll get sacked soon, but I feel sorry for him. That Leicester team has needed freshening up for the last few windows. They have only spent £15m this summer. The likes of Forrest have spent near on £150m

J-C
04-09-2022, 03:02 PM
My streams been slow all day, missed that last goal, the Leicester players look a shadow of the players from last season, they needed about 3-4 good players in to keep the players on their toes, Tielemans was expecting to be away but it never happened, something not right there. Roy Keane just had a right go at the players for that performance.

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 03:14 PM
My streams been slow all day, missed that last goal, the Leicester players look a shadow of the players from last season, they needed about 3-4 good players in to keep the players on their toes, Tielemans was expecting to be away but it never happened, something not right there. Roy Keane just had a right go at the players for that performance.

Schmeichel and Fofana are huge losses. They are playing Ndidi out of position at cb and that Luke Thomas is probably one of the weaker starting left backs in the league. Rodgers is a good manager and did well in winning them their first ever FA Cup. I think they need someone with fresh ideas to get the best back out of their attacking players and sort out their leaky defence.

hibees 7062
04-09-2022, 03:32 PM
:agree:

Brighton are a cracking team

Yep , pity we couldn’t get some sort of tie wish them

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 03:37 PM
Bruno Fernandes 🤣 the guys just smashed his head off the ground.

DaveF
04-09-2022, 03:40 PM
Bruno Fernandes 🤣 the guys just smashed his head off the ground.

He bounced his head off the turf. It will hurt more when he headers a ball. Football really is turning into a game for wimps.

BILLYHIBS
04-09-2022, 03:44 PM
Var 🙀

cabbageandribs1875
04-09-2022, 03:45 PM
correct decision

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 03:45 PM
Not clear and obvious at all but it is United of course.

MWHIBBIES
04-09-2022, 03:46 PM
Very soft but probably a foul. Excellent breakaway and goal. United very fortunate. Not sure its clear and obvious but English refs need VAR to decide what to have for breakfast.

green day
04-09-2022, 03:46 PM
He bounced his head off the turf. It will hurt more when he headers a ball. Football really is turning into a game for wimps.
I can't believe the game was stopped.

On another note, great goal by Martinelli chalked off for previous foul. 10th one in the Premiership this weekend.

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 03:46 PM
Lol., the premier league pretending they have set a high bar for physicality... Except when it leads to a goal

Another poor decision for me


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DaveF
04-09-2022, 03:47 PM
Not clear and obvious at all but it is United of course.

Of course it's clear and obvious. He gave a foul against McTominay 5mins earlier for a similar shove.

HendoDelivered
04-09-2022, 03:47 PM
Really hate VAR

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 03:47 PM
He bounced his head off the turf. It will hurt more when he headers a ball. Football really is turning into a game for wimps.Eh, no it wouldn't

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bringbackbenny
04-09-2022, 03:48 PM
I think Erikson didn't have control of the ball and was looking to go down. However some contact and probably the correct decision.

GlesgaeHibby
04-09-2022, 03:48 PM
Of course it's clear and obvious. He gave a foul against McTominay 5mins earlier for a similar shove.

Mctominay shove was two arms in the back.

Scorrie
04-09-2022, 03:48 PM
Really hate VAR

I’m beginning to agree. Decent goals getting ruled out for very little these days

JimBHibees
04-09-2022, 03:48 PM
Of course it's clear and obvious. He gave a foul against McTominay 5mins earlier for a similar shove.

Not for me next to nothing in that.

bringbackbenny
04-09-2022, 03:49 PM
Mctominay shove was two arms in the back.

Ridiculous not to be booked for it.

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 03:49 PM
I think Erikson didn't have control of the ball and was looking to go down. However some contact and probably the correct decision.Some Contact doesnt mean a foul

Saka shouldve just fell down there and it's a penalty based on that train of thought

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DaveF
04-09-2022, 03:49 PM
Mctominay shove was two arms in the back.

Do you honestly think that wasn't a foul?

GlesgaeHibby
04-09-2022, 03:51 PM
Do you honestly think that wasn't a foul?

Probably was just a foul, but it's not similar to Mctominay. Mctominay ran up from behind and shoved the guy with two hands.

It's not a clear and obvious error though.

DaveF
04-09-2022, 03:52 PM
Mctominay shove was two arms in the back.

2 arms, 1 arm - both were fouls. I'm all for letting the ge flow but you still have to call fouls.

Onion
04-09-2022, 03:53 PM
I think Erikson didn't have control of the ball and was looking to go down. However some contact and probably the correct decision.

Agreed, He didn't see the Arsenal player, got caught on the ball, and went down like a sack of spuds to save face.

Onion
04-09-2022, 03:57 PM
I’m beginning to agree. Decent goals getting ruled out for very little these days

:agree: WHUFC equaliser was the best yet. Goalie goes down, makes a complete and utter horlicks of it and then pretends to be injured (again, to save face). Ref/VAR get all confused and chalk a good goal off just to avoid having to explain themselves. Farcical :greengrin

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 04:03 PM
Arsenal have been excellent so far - very good watch

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Callum_62
04-09-2022, 04:04 PM
Arsenal have been excellent so far - very good watch

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkAnd it's 1-0 utd [emoji23][emoji23]

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JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 04:05 PM
It had to be the debutant.

green day
04-09-2022, 04:08 PM
It had to be the debutant.

He looks no bad, smashing move, Erikson's ball was brilliant

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 04:09 PM
He looks no bad, smashing move, Erikson's ball was brilliantPortoesque

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JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 04:10 PM
He looks no bad, smashing move, Erikson's ball was brilliant

Been really impressed by Eriksen so far this season. He's always been a great player but to continue at this level after what happened to him is inspirational.

green day
04-09-2022, 04:13 PM
Been really impressed by Eriksen so far this season. He's always been a great player but to continue at this level after what happened to him is inspirational.

Always thought it was odd that Inter Terminated his contract. Maybe an insurance issue? Or maybe he just wanted back to the UK for family reasons?
Great player

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 04:16 PM
Always thought it was odd that Inter Terminated his contract. Maybe an insurance issue? Or maybe he just wanted back to the UK for family reasons?
Great player

I think it had something to do with a rule put in place by the Italian FA that he couldn't play with a heart monitor or something like that. Not entirely sure.

Scorrie
04-09-2022, 04:18 PM
I think it had something to do with a rule put in place by the Italian FA that he couldn't play with a heart monitor or something like that. Not entirely sure.

No you’re right. Serie A has a rule about that so Eriksen had to leave

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 04:48 PM
1-1 Saka fully deserved

Unless Paul Tierney can find a reason to disallow it [emoji23]

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joe t
04-09-2022, 04:49 PM
Doig scores!

green day
04-09-2022, 04:50 PM
Arsenal well worthy of the goal, but Man Utd will do nothing with that defending.

MWHIBBIES
04-09-2022, 04:50 PM
Doig scores!

Doigs goal here

https://streamja.com/krXXb

Well done Josh :thumbsup:

green day
04-09-2022, 04:51 PM
Doigs goal here

https://streamja.com/krXXb

Well done Josh :thumbsup:
Right foot too....same as his assist last week

Callum_62
04-09-2022, 04:53 PM
Incredible

2-1 utd

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JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 04:54 PM
That assist was stunning.

MWHIBBIES
04-09-2022, 04:56 PM
United are deadly on the break.

Rashford is hopeless most weeks but always excellent against other top 6 sides.

green day
04-09-2022, 04:56 PM
That assist was stunning.

Fernandez is one of my favourite players .

Pagan Hibernia
04-09-2022, 04:56 PM
Doigs goal here

https://streamja.com/krXXb

Well done Josh :thumbsup:

what on earth was he doing up there! But well finished

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 05:04 PM
Game over. Arsenal were brilliant for the first hour but United with some brilliant pieces of play hurt them. Arsenal's unbeaten run comes to an end. Onto Thursday for them now.

MWHIBBIES
04-09-2022, 05:06 PM
Great by United on the break again. Still much to learn for Arsenal. Missed key chances when it mattered.

green day
04-09-2022, 05:06 PM
He's gone for some bananas subs here. We don't know what the formation is, no sure the players do either

Hibernian Verse
04-09-2022, 05:14 PM
Commentators are loving Doig on BT Sport. Looks like he’s playing left wing.

Bridge hibs
04-09-2022, 05:18 PM
Brilliant for Doig, right place, right time, was gonna say Lasagne laid it on a plate for him but looks like keeper parried it

Willis1875
04-09-2022, 05:22 PM
Brilliant for Doig, right place, right time, was gonna say Lasagne laid it on a plate for him but looks like keeper parried it

Puns incoming….

Wilson
04-09-2022, 05:29 PM
Puns incoming….

We're pasta all that.

HoboHarry
04-09-2022, 05:37 PM
We're pasta all that.

Not if you're on the sauce

Hibernia&Alba
04-09-2022, 07:00 PM
United back at the races. There is still work to do: Dalot, McTominay, Fred, Maguire not good enough and must be replaced. Casemiro will take McTominay's place, and the defence looks much better without Maguire and Shaw. There must be ten players at least who need kicking out of the club, but progress is noticeable recently. It's going to take a couple of transfer windows to remove the deadwood, but Ten Hag has identified the losers and has a plan.

JamesHFC
04-09-2022, 07:05 PM
United back at the races. There is still work to do: Dalot, McTominay, Fred, Maguire not good enough and must be replaced. Casemiro will take McTominay's place, and the defence looks much better without Maguire and Shaw. There must be ten players at least who need kicking out of the club, but progress is noticeable recently. It's going to take a couple of transfer windows to remove the deadwood, but Ten Hag has identified the losers and has a plan.

I actually quite like Dalot. Definitely a work in process and they are still a bit away from City but they have improved a lot in such a small space of time.

Hibs4185
04-09-2022, 07:06 PM
United back at the races. There is still work to do: Dalot, McTominay, Fred, Maguire not good enough and must be replaced. Casemiro will take McTominay's place, and the defence looks much better without Maguire and Shaw. There must be ten players at least who need kicking out of the club, but progress is noticeable recently. It's going to take a couple of transfer windows to remove the deadwood, but Ten Hag has identified the losers and has a plan.

Getting rid of Linnegard and Pogba have made a huge difference. Celebrities and egos more than footballers

Hibernia&Alba
04-09-2022, 07:15 PM
I actually quite like Dalot. Definitely a work in process and they are still a bit away from City but they have improved a lot in such a small space of time.

I don't rate Dalot at all. United should sign a top class right back, have Dalot as back up and sell Wan Basaka. Also sell Maguire, Shaw, Williams, Tuanzabe, Jones, Fred and one or two others, which would free massive wages from terrible players. I hope to see Ten Hag get very ruthless during the next couple of transfer windows.

heretoday
04-09-2022, 08:55 PM
Rashford is concentrating on his football again.

JimBHibees
05-09-2022, 05:43 AM
I actually quite like Dalot. Definitely a work in process and they are still a bit away from City but they have improved a lot in such a small space of time.

Dalot has been very good in the games I have seen this season imo. Looks a totally different player

MWHIBBIES
05-09-2022, 05:56 AM
Rashford is concentrating on his football again.

I don't think he's suddenly going to stop the excellent work off the pitch. Far more important than daft football.

He's always been good in big games, right from day one. Always a threat to City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. It's every week he struggles to hit that level.

Scorrie
05-09-2022, 06:02 AM
United back at the races. There is still work to do: Dalot, McTominay, Fred, Maguire not good enough and must be replaced. Casemiro will take McTominay's place, and the defence looks much better without Maguire and Shaw. There must be ten players at least who need kicking out of the club, but progress is noticeable recently. It's going to take a couple of transfer windows to remove the deadwood, but Ten Hag has identified the losers and has a plan.


I actually thought McTominay played quite well today. Broke up a lot of Arsenal attacks and some good forward passes. Obviously he has to do this more consistently but maybe having a decent coach and better players around him helps?

Tyler Durden
05-09-2022, 06:30 AM
Rashford is concentrating on his football again.

More the case that he’s had a pre season and is now working with a proper coach who has them working hard all over the park.

Tyler Durden
05-09-2022, 06:32 AM
VAR in England is all wrong. The emphasis in other countries is “clear and obvious error”.

That Arsenal goal would never have been disallowed in Germany, Italy or the Champions League IMO. In England it’s like they use VAR to find any reason to disallow a goal.

worcesterhibby
05-09-2022, 06:37 AM
VAR in England is all wrong. The emphasis in other countries is “clear and obvious error”.

That Arsenal goal would never have been disallowed in Germany, Italy or the Champions League IMO. In England it’s like they use VAR to find any reason to disallow a goal.

When we get it up here it will be usee to find any excuse to disallow goals against Rangers, but will be posted missing when they score an offisde goal unless they are 3-0 up

Smartie
05-09-2022, 06:42 AM
VAR in England is all wrong. The emphasis in other countries is “clear and obvious error”.

That Arsenal goal would never have been disallowed in Germany, Italy or the Champions League IMO. In England it’s like they use VAR to find any reason to disallow a goal.

I thought VAR was excellent during the Euros last year. Really helped the referees and allowed proper, full blooded games to continue at pace.

It's hard to work out how England have managed to get it so wrong. They seem to be in need of getting a grasp on the rules, like the West Ham one on Saturday "just because there is contact doesn't mean it is a foul".

I'm in favour of the concept of VAR and reckon it should be a force for good but there is absolutely no point in it if you're going to get decisions like that one on Saturday.

There should also be a bit of wiggle room for interpretation, opinion or subjectivity when debating these decisions. It's not always black and white. As long as they get the black and white ones right (which they've not) and the majority of the dark grey ones, they should be forgiven for giving a 50/50 call one way when ultimately it is a 50/50 call.

(Although there are ways of dealing with 50/50 calls as well - if in doubt, the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacking team etc).

HH81
05-09-2022, 06:53 AM
Didn't catch any football yesterday as was busy in Rochdale at the bigger event yesterday.

Anyone seen that goal Huddersfield scored? Not given and was miles over the line.

PPZPOL
05-09-2022, 10:20 AM
I don't rate Dalot at all. United should sign a top class right back, have Dalot as back up and sell Wan Basaka. Also sell Maguire, Shaw, Williams, Tuanzabe, Jones, Fred and one or two others, which would free massive wages from terrible players. I hope to see Ten Hag get very ruthless during the next couple of transfer windows.

Who is buying these guys on stupid wages with time left on their contracts? With all due respect, Harry Maguire’s next club isn’t going to be paying him the same salary as he is on just now and I’m sure the others will be the same. Pretty sure at some point they’ve tried to “get rid” of a few of them but why should/would they move. If you hand out the meaty contracts you have to swallow the medicine when the player doesn’t work out, happens at every club.

Scottie
05-09-2022, 11:11 AM
Didn't catch any football yesterday as was busy in Rochdale at the bigger event yesterday.

Anyone seen that goal Huddersfield scored? Not given and was miles over the line.
Was it as bad as Griffs or Oli Shaws against the gimps ?

HH81
05-09-2022, 11:43 AM
Was it as bad as Griffs or Oli Shaws against the gimps ?

Yes I'd say. Got sent link this morning where football league has said ball tracking was lost by camera at time of the goal. They are sorry but result stands.

Think that's first error of that kind and also ref pointed to his watch during game so even if he thought it was in he went with his watch anyway.

JimBHibees
05-09-2022, 12:42 PM
VAR in England is all wrong. The emphasis in other countries is “clear and obvious error”.

That Arsenal goal would never have been disallowed in Germany, Italy or the Champions League IMO. In England it’s like they use VAR to find any reason to disallow a goal.

Totally agree that was never a clear and obvious error should have been a goal.

Broken Gnome
05-09-2022, 01:08 PM
VAR in England is all wrong. The emphasis in other countries is “clear and obvious error”.

That Arsenal goal would never have been disallowed in Germany, Italy or the Champions League IMO. In England it’s like they use VAR to find any reason to disallow a goal.

Yep, it's weighted far too negatively towards disallowing g goals.

If you're going back to midfield challenges like in the Arsenal game or any form of contact like Newcastle, that's a huge majority of cases where you're looking to rule out a goal. Nothing comparable that would 'benefit' a team instead

DaveF
05-09-2022, 01:09 PM
Totally agree that was never a clear and obvious error should have been a goal.

I know we disagreed on this yesterday but if you win possession by fouling the opposition and score, yet the on field referee misses it, then how is that not a clear and obvious error?

It was a foul. If you don't think it was, then I assume you are happy to watch footbal where players clearly push each other to get possession? Football 1890's style 😄

worcesterhibby
05-09-2022, 01:34 PM
I know we disagreed on this yesterday but if you win possession by fouling the opposition and score, yet the on field referee misses it, then how is that not a clear and obvious error?

It was a foul. If you don't think it was, then I assume you are happy to watch footbal where players clearly push each other to get possession? Football 1890's style ��

It's a pretty soft foul to be honest..it's also about consistency..have a watch of the first 30 seconds of the Brighton Leicester Game that came before the Man Utd match. There is an almost identical "Foul" by a leicester player on a brighton player, the ball goes in the box and Leicester score...no VAR..no disallowed goal.


https://youtu.be/Kg0uecCq1Tg

DaveF
05-09-2022, 01:38 PM
It's a pretty soft foul to be honest..it's also about consistency..have a watch of the first 30 seconds of the Brighton Leicester Game that came before the Man Utd match. There is an almost identical "Foul" by a leicester player on a brighton player, the ball goes in the box and Leicester score...no VAR..no disallowed goal.


https://youtu.be/Kg0uecCq1Tg

Totally agree about the consistency angle for the most part but there is no comparison between the Leicester and Arsenal ones.Tielmans does not use his arm to shove (as I recall it anyway) whereas Odegaard clearly pushes Eriksen. Do Arsenal they win the ball if he does not shove him?

MWHIBBIES
05-09-2022, 02:05 PM
Totally agree about the consistency angle for the most part but there is no comparison between the Leicester and Arsenal ones.Tielmans does not use his arm to shove (as I recall it anyway) whereas Odegaard clearly pushes Eriksen. Do Arsenal they win the ball if he does not shove him?

It's the lack of consistency that's ridiculous. The penalty arsenal weren't given on Wednesday was ridiculous. Saka hauled down. Then 2 hands around Ramsdale on the villa goal. Then eriksen yesterday. I'd say the softest of the 3 was the only one given, and only after about 30 reviews from the ref.

Now, that's only 2 matches I've watched and can remember. There's been dozens of bad decisions from refs this season and the not having a replay excuse doesn't work anymore. Refs are just rubbish.

JimBHibees
05-09-2022, 02:07 PM
I know we disagreed on this yesterday but if you win possession by fouling the opposition and score, yet the on field referee misses it, then how is that not a clear and obvious error?

It was a foul. If you don't think it was, then I assume you are happy to watch footbal where players clearly push each other to get possession? Football 1890's style 😄

I think it was soft and not clear and obvious. Just think if we are going back for these sort of fouls where does it stop imo. Appreciate others will have different views on that.

DaveF
05-09-2022, 02:10 PM
It's the lack of consistency that's ridiculous. The penalty arsenal weren't given on Wednesday was ridiculous. Saka hauled down. Then 2 hands around Ramsdale on the villa goal. Then eriksen yesterday. I'd say the softest of the 3 was the only one given, and only after about 30 reviews from the ref.

Now, that's only 2 matches I've watched and can remember. There's been dozens of bad decisions from refs this season and the not having a replay excuse doesn't work anymore. Refs are just rubbish.

Totally agree on the consistency. Some of the decisions this weekend were crackers.

Just_Jimmy
05-09-2022, 02:11 PM
It's the lack of consistency that's ridiculous. The penalty arsenal weren't given on Wednesday was ridiculous. Saka hauled down. Then 2 hands around Ramsdale on the villa goal. Then eriksen yesterday. I'd say the softest of the 3 was the only one given, and only after about 30 reviews from the ref.

Now, that's only 2 matches I've watched and can remember. There's been dozens of bad decisions from refs this season and the not having a replay excuse doesn't work anymore. Refs are just rubbish.I think the worst challenge in the match was Saka on Fernades which should have been a red.

The ref was 5 yards away and looking right at it and VAR didn't even highlight it.

As you say, there's zero consistency.

I do think the Erikson one was a foul however.

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JimBHibees
05-09-2022, 02:14 PM
I think the worst challenge in the match was Saka on Fernades which should have been a red.

The ref was 5 yards away and looking right at it and VAR didn't even highlight it.

As you say, there's zero consistency.

I do think the Erikson one was a foul however.

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Yep poor tackle wasn't Saka though was Lockonga I think. Difficult to tell with Fernandes though how genuinely injured he is at times. :greengrin

HH81
05-09-2022, 02:17 PM
If Gary Neville said it was soft it definitely wasn't a foul. I don't need to watch it based on that.

Pretty much the man u minded people have all said foul, doubt they would have said so if VAR ruled their goal out.

Hibbyradge
05-09-2022, 02:25 PM
It's a pretty soft foul to be honest..it's also about consistency..have a watch of the first 30 seconds of the Brighton Leicester Game that came before the Man Utd match. There is an almost identical "Foul" by a leicester player on a brighton player, the ball goes in the box and Leicester score...no VAR..no disallowed goal.


https://youtu.be/Kg0uecCq1Tg

Ericsson was going to pass the ball and the Arsenal player kicked his leg and stopped him doing that. I don't know how that could be described as 'soft'.

Hibbyradge
05-09-2022, 02:28 PM
If Gary Neville said it was soft it definitely wasn't a foul. I don't need to watch it based on that.

Pretty much the man u minded people have all said foul, doubt they would have said so if VAR ruled their goal out.

If they said no foul, they would be wrong.

The Arsenal player didn't win the ball fairly. He didn't even get a touch on it. If it had been in their own box, it would have been a penalty.

Just_Jimmy
05-09-2022, 02:33 PM
Yep poor tackle wasn't Saka though was Lockonga I think. Difficult to tell with Fernandes though how genuinely injured he is at times. :greengrinNah it was definitely Saka at 26 minutes. Bruno passes the ball away and saka plants his foot on his inside calf.

Yes Bruno play acts but it should definitely been looked at.

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HH81
05-09-2022, 02:41 PM
If they said no foul, they would be wrong.

The Arsenal player didn't win the ball fairly. He didn't even get a touch on it. If it had been in their own box, it would have been a penalty.

Just seen it. At live speed you can see why it wasn't given by the ref. Erikson looks weak in the tackle.

Even great tackles look not so good in slow motion.

ancient hibee
05-09-2022, 02:47 PM
Y
Nah it was definitely Saka at 26 minutes. Bruno passes the ball away and saka plants his foot on his inside calf.

Yes Bruno play acts but it should definitely been looked at.

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Suggest you have another look as I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Saka.:greengrin

Just_Jimmy
05-09-2022, 02:53 PM
Y

Suggest you have another look as I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Saka.:greengrinhttps://youtu.be/flkYbGT6v9k

Fair, it was said it was Saka at the time and after it it wasn't even looked at so I had to hunt it down. It's not Saka, despite the video title.

Still red.

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Hibernia&Alba
05-09-2022, 02:55 PM
Who is buying these guys on stupid wages with time left on their contracts? With all due respect, Harry Maguire’s next club isn’t going to be paying him the same salary as he is on just now and I’m sure the others will be the same. Pretty sure at some point they’ve tried to “get rid” of a few of them but why should/would they move. If you hand out the meaty contracts you have to swallow the medicine when the player doesn’t work out, happens at every club.

Yes, there is always the risk a player is happier taking the money than playing regularly. Some will even play in the reserves and take the cash. I suppose it depends on each individual: some will want to play first team football. Maguire, for example, is clearly no longer first choice, but he has his England career to think of, too. Without first team football he won't get England games. He will have a decision to make: move on for the good of his career or sit on the bench for the rest of his contract.

Hibernia&Alba
05-09-2022, 02:58 PM
Just seen it. At live speed you can see why it wasn't given by the ref. Erikson looks weak in the tackle.

Even great tackles look not so good in slow motion.

It was one of those fifty-fifty tackles which are almost always given in the modern game. Twenty years ago it was play on. If it goes your way, it was a correct call for a foul; if it goes against you, it was soft. It could have gone either way.

I will say Arsenal put in a few naughty tackles plus dived two or three times for a penalty.

Hibbyradge
05-09-2022, 02:59 PM
Just seen it. At live speed you can see why it wasn't given by the ref. Erikson looks weak in the tackle.

Even great tackles look not so good in slow motion.

I agree. I didn't think it was a foul at the time, but it was and that's what Var is for.

HH81
05-09-2022, 03:00 PM
https://youtu.be/flkYbGT6v9k

Fair, it was said it was Saka at the time and after it it wasn't even looked at so I had to hunt it down. It's not Saka, despite the video title.

Still red.

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Looks a bad one at full speed and them slowed down looks like no contact to me.

Hibbyradge
05-09-2022, 03:03 PM
Looks a bad one at full speed and them slowed down looks like no contact to me.

If he'd had his full weight on that leg, it could have been broken. I thought he should have been booked at the time.

ancient hibee
05-09-2022, 03:09 PM
https://youtu.be/flkYbGT6v9k

Fair, it was said it was Saka at the time and after it it wasn't even looked at so I had to hunt it down. It's not Saka, despite the video title.

Still red.

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Yes it was Saliba. Booked for another foul later.

HH81
05-09-2022, 03:11 PM
It was one of those fifty-fifty tackles which are almost always given in the modern game. Twenty years ago it was play on. If it goes your way, it was a correct call for a foul; if it goes against you, it was soft. It could have gone either way.

I will say Arsenal put in a few naughty tackles plus dived two or three times for a penalty.

I very much doubt the man u players we're all angels.

MWHIBBIES
05-09-2022, 03:13 PM
Yes it was Saliba. Booked for another foul later.

Its not Saliba either.

It is Albert Sambi-Lokonga

Tyler Durden
05-09-2022, 03:22 PM
If they said no foul, they would be wrong.

The Arsenal player didn't win the ball fairly. He didn't even get a touch on it. If it had been in their own box, it would have been a penalty.

I don’t think it would.

It wasn’t a tackle and nobody is claiming Odegaard won the ball. He made contact with Eriksen and Eriksen went down. You are allowed to make contact. The PGMOL refs group explicitly made a point at the start of last season to highlight that not all contact is a foul.

This looks worse in slow motion but it’s not a clear and obvious error for the ref to wave play on. Why does he need to look at several replays if it’s a clear foul? VAR is not meant to be there to “re referee” the game

Just_Jimmy
05-09-2022, 03:27 PM
Yes it was Saliba. Booked for another foul later.It's Sambi-Lokonga. Saliba was booked as you say.

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J-C
05-09-2022, 03:29 PM
I don’t think it would.

It wasn’t a tackle and nobody is claiming Odegaard won the ball. He made contact with Eriksen and Eriksen went down. You are allowed to make contact. The PGMOL refs group explicitly made a point at the start of last season to highlight that not all contact is a foul.

This looks worse in slow motion but it’s not a clear and obvious error for the ref to wave play on. Why does he need to look at several replays if it’s a clear foul? VAR is not meant to be there to “re referee” the game

Except he pushed him in his back at his right shoulder, causing him to fall, that's a foul.

Hibernia&Alba
05-09-2022, 03:30 PM
Except he pushed him in his back at his right shoulder, causing him to fall, that's a foul.

Yes, it was technically a foul, but it was soft. Like you say, a push in the back is a push in the back.

Hibbyradge
05-09-2022, 03:50 PM
I don’t think it would.

It wasn’t a tackle and nobody is claiming Odegaard won the ball. He made contact with Eriksen and Eriksen went down. You are allowed to make contact. The PGMOL refs group explicitly made a point at the start of last season to highlight that not all contact is a foul.

This looks worse in slow motion but it’s not a clear and obvious error for the ref to wave play on. Why does he need to look at several replays if it’s a clear foul? VAR is not meant to be there to “re referee” the game

Contact is allowed but you're not allowed to kick another player's legs or use your foot to stop him from playing the ball.

Tyler Durden
05-09-2022, 03:51 PM
Except he pushed him in his back at his right shoulder, causing him to fall, that's a foul.

I think you are missing my point slightly. You think it's a foul. Some others may disagree. I'm not really saying anyone is right or wrong there.

The ref saw it at close quarters and didn't give a foul. That decision is not a "clear and obvious" error on his part.

Hibbyradge
05-09-2022, 03:54 PM
The ref saw it at close quarters and didn't give a foul. That decision is not a "clear and obvious" error on his part.

You could say that about every decision and every offside.

Hibernia&Alba
05-09-2022, 03:55 PM
I think you are missing my point slightly. You think it's a foul. Some others may disagree. I'm not really saying anyone is right or wrong there.

The ref saw it at close quarters and didn't give a foul. That decision is not a "clear and obvious" error on his part.

Isn't every goal checked for possible problems with VAR?

MWHIBBIES
05-09-2022, 04:13 PM
Isn't every goal checked for possible problems with VAR?

Which is weird. Actively looking for a reason to disallow it, rather than clear and obvious errors.

007
05-09-2022, 05:03 PM
Which is weird. Actively looking for a reason to disallow it, rather than clear and obvious errors.

Ambiguity over what's clear and obvious is what will facilitate even more decisions going Rangers and Celtic's way.

Hibernia&Alba
05-09-2022, 05:09 PM
Ambiguity over what's clear and obvious is what will facilitate even more decisions going Rangers and Celtic's way.

That is guaranteed, as is both of them whining that VAR is cheating them.

Tyler Durden
05-09-2022, 06:54 PM
You could say that about every decision and every offside.

Only in Englands approach to VAR which is a total outlier.

The UEFA refs chief talks of a “minimum interference, maximum benefit” approach. That’s what worked well at the Euros and pretty much what you get in Spain and Germany. Only major events that the ref hasn’t seen should be flagged to him by the VAR basically - if it’s something open to interpretation. Offsides are factual.

If the ref has a good view of tackles and basic passages of play, there is no need to ask him to review incidents again. It’s only in England that they do so and that’s why everyone hates VAR

Just_Jimmy
05-09-2022, 10:43 PM
Only in Englands approach to VAR which is a total outlier.

The UEFA refs chief talks of a “minimum interference, maximum benefit” approach. That’s what worked well at the Euros and pretty much what you get in Spain and Germany. Only major events that the ref hasn’t seen should be flagged to him by the VAR basically - if it’s something open to interpretation. Offsides are factual.

If the ref has a good view of tackles and basic passages of play, there is no need to ask him to review incidents again. It’s only in England that they do so and that’s why everyone hates VARWe'll adopt the German method in Scotland.

They're system only asks one question and one question only; "how will this decision benefit Bayern Munich"?

If it does they make the decision. If it doesn't or harms them, no call.

Here We'll do the same except Bayern will be replaced with the old firm.

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Hibernia&Alba
06-09-2022, 11:55 AM
I'm looking forward to Celtc v Real Madrid tonight. Celtc playing some great football, but tonight they face the ultimate test. It should be a good game; Madrid's class should tell, but Celtc have had some famous nights at Parkhead against world class teams.

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 11:59 AM
I'm looking forward to Celtc v Real Madrid tonight. Celtc playing some great football, but tonight they face the ultimate test. It should be a good game; Madrid's class should tell, but Celtc have had some famous nights at Parkhead against world class teams.

A strange position for a socialist like myself to be in, but I hope Franco’s team give them a good pumping.

Hibernia&Alba
06-09-2022, 12:04 PM
A strange position for a socialist like myself to be in, but I hope Franco’s team give them a good pumping.

I quite agree. There is always pleasure to be had when the Old Firm take a European pumping. It reminds them of their place within the bigger picture, when they can't bully Scottish clubs a fraction of their size.

Onceinawhile
06-09-2022, 12:05 PM
A strange position for a socialist like myself to be in, but I hope Franco’s team give them a good pumping.

Have you ever read "fear and loathing in la liga" by Sid Lowe?

It explores the Franco / Real Madrid link and comes to the conclusion that Franco supported Real because they were successful, not the other way round.

Hibernia&Alba
06-09-2022, 12:09 PM
Have you ever read "fear and loathing in la liga" by Sid Lowe?

It explores the Franco / Real Madrid link and comes to the conclusion that Franco supported Real because they were successful, not the other way round.

There were also Republicans and Francoists amongst both Real Madrid and Barcelona supporters. In a civil war that split families and friendships, football clubs were also divided.

Springbank
06-09-2022, 12:17 PM
There is an interesting story behind how Alfredo di Stefano ended up at Real instead of Barça

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/28204560.amp

Many in Catalunya blame the Barça president more than they blame Franco for that one

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 12:35 PM
Have you ever read "fear and loathing in la liga" by Sid Lowe?

It explores the Franco / Real Madrid link and comes to the conclusion that Franco supported Real because they were successful, not the other way round.

I like his contributions on the totally football podcast and I imagine he’s very well informed. They are perceived as representing his regime though, regardless of how accurate it might be.

Hibernia&Alba
06-09-2022, 12:42 PM
I like his contributions on the totally football podcast and I imagine he’s very well informed. They are perceived as representing his regime though, regardless of how accurate it might be.

That's true and Franco was a Real Madrid fan, but there were supporters of the club who fought against the Nationalists, which you would expect in conflict which cut across traditional loyalties. The Civil War still scars Spain today, of course, with older generations still reluctant to discuss it.

JeMeSouviens
06-09-2022, 12:49 PM
Have you ever read "fear and loathing in la liga" by Sid Lowe?

It explores the Franco / Real Madrid link and comes to the conclusion that Franco supported Real because they were successful, not the other way round.

By all accounts, Franco wasn't much of a football fan at all. He adopted Madrid because they brought a rare bit of international prestige for Spain in the 50s.

The president of Madrid pre-civil war fought in the Republican defence of the city and ended up exiled in France.

Billy Whizz
06-09-2022, 02:38 PM
Celtic under 19’s, 4-0 down to Real Madrid after 35 mins
Game live on BT Sport

ian cruise
06-09-2022, 02:41 PM
Celtic under 19’s, 4-0 down to Real Madrid after 35 mins
Game live on BT Sport

Under 19s playing Real Madrid first team doesn't sound like a fair match 😉

ancient hibee
06-09-2022, 03:40 PM
I'm looking forward to Celtc v Real Madrid tonight. Celtc playing some great football, but tonight they face the ultimate test. It should be a good game; Madrid's class should tell, but Celtc have had some famous nights at Parkhead against world class teams.
Think Celtic’s centre backs both got booked against Rangers.If they had difficulty in a cakewalk they might be in for a very hard evening.

EGL2000
06-09-2022, 05:05 PM
1-0 Zagreb nice breakaway goal from orsic. How lazy are the BT sport team for any team that isn't English though! Saying what a goal from the young man he's 29!!

J-C
06-09-2022, 05:32 PM
Chelsea have really dropped their levels this season, Zagreb are all over them, could easily be 3 up.

Billy Whizz
06-09-2022, 05:58 PM
Chelsea have really dropped their levels this season, Zagreb are all over them, could easily be 3 up.

Pleasing to read. One team I’ve never had any love for

J-C
06-09-2022, 06:03 PM
Pleasing to read. One team I’ve never had any love for


Me too, I see them as the Rangers of England.

bigwheel
06-09-2022, 06:04 PM
Me too, I see them as the Rangers of England.

I’ll “third” that

Hibernia&Alba
06-09-2022, 06:05 PM
I’ll “third” that

Aye, right wing Kensington Tory Huns.

Jim44
06-09-2022, 06:14 PM
Celtic or Real Madrid to win? I suppose it boils down to the co-efficient supporters or the ‘hope they get humped’ club. Personally’ I hope they get hammered as anything that undermines their confidence can only be good for our domestic game.

Scorrie
06-09-2022, 06:31 PM
Celtic or Real Madrid to win? I suppose it boils down to the co-efficient supporters or the ‘hope they get humped’ club. Personally’ I hope they get hammered as anything that undermines their confidence can only be good for our domestic game.

I think I’d like Celtic to get a result. Would be some advert for Scottish football

Jim44
06-09-2022, 06:39 PM
I think I’d like Celtic to get a result. Would be some advert for Scottish football

I don’t think it would ....... it would only further consolidate their superiority and dominance of Scottish football, which does nothing for 10 teams ( I’ll keep Rangers out of the equation ) in the Scottish Premiership.

Since452
06-09-2022, 06:39 PM
Hope Celtic get horsed 9 or 10-0. **** them.

green day
06-09-2022, 06:42 PM
Chelsea are poor, Zagreb are ok, but wont be bothering the far reaches of this competition.

Billy Whizz
06-09-2022, 06:52 PM
Chelsea are poor, Zagreb are ok, but wont be bothering the far reaches of this competition.

Their nett spend in the summer window was £200m

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 06:58 PM
I wonder if Real Madrid have experienced a ‘special’ atmosphere like this before? They could easily be intimidated.

Callum_62
06-09-2022, 07:15 PM
Good watch at celtic Park so far

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Since452
06-09-2022, 07:16 PM
I wonder if Real Madrid have experienced a ‘special’ atmosphere like this before? They could easily be intimidated.

Celtic fans singing about Hibs while playing Real Madrid

green day
06-09-2022, 07:17 PM
Red Bull Leipzig just lost the most ludicrous goal you will see - huge huge keeper error.

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 07:18 PM
Really good game so far, some of Reals first touch play a joy to watch. And incredible pass from jota earlier.

hibee_girl
06-09-2022, 07:21 PM
Celtic hit the post

WhileTheChief..
06-09-2022, 07:21 PM
What a chance!!!

Celtic looking really good here.

SteveHFC
06-09-2022, 07:21 PM
Celtic been the better team.

Callum_62
06-09-2022, 07:23 PM
It's just 2 good teams full of players that are comfortable on the ball playing brilliant attacking football

Great watch and celtic could easily be ahead

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hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 07:24 PM
Celtic been the better team.

The last five minutes they have. Overall it’s been even I’d say.

SRHibs
06-09-2022, 07:26 PM
The last five minutes they have. Overall it’s been even I’d say.

I think Celtic have been on top since minute 1. They need to get something from it though as I don't think they'll be able to keep this intensity of play going for too much longer.

Torto7
06-09-2022, 07:28 PM
Wee Hatate is some player. They did well to get him.

Green Reaper
06-09-2022, 07:29 PM
Benzema not going to last much longer

Alfred E Newman
06-09-2022, 07:29 PM
I wonder if Real Madrid have experienced a ‘special’ atmosphere like this before? They could easily be intimidated.

An atmosphere almost on a par with a packed Tynecastle.

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 07:30 PM
Poor Benzema.

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 07:31 PM
An atmosphere almost on a par with a packed Tynecastle.

Be sensible.

Keith_M
06-09-2022, 07:37 PM
Celtic fans singing about Hibs while playing Real Madrid


They're singing about Hibs?

What exactly?

SJNB Hibby
06-09-2022, 07:38 PM
I think Celtic have been on top since minute 1. They need to get something from it though as I don't think they'll be able to keep this intensity of play going for too much longer.

If you didn't know they were playing Madrid...you'd think they'd have a chance

Scorrie
06-09-2022, 07:39 PM
They're singing about Hibs?

What exactly?

“We shall not be moved” we’re still quoted in that song

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 07:41 PM
Hazard misses a sitter.

Keith_M
06-09-2022, 07:41 PM
“We shall not be moved” we’re still quoted in that song


Ah, OK, cheers.

I presumed they were singing specifically about us, which seemed a bit strange.

Sylar
06-09-2022, 07:43 PM
This definitely sticks in the craw, but I've been really impressed by Celtc this first half. They have some serious quality in their side.

Carter-Vickers, Juranovic, Hetate, Jota and Giakoumakis have all be outstanding so far.

I'm away to throw up.

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 07:46 PM
Absolutely fantastic 45 minutes of football. Very distinct styles too.

J-C
06-09-2022, 07:48 PM
Celtic definitely holding their own here, they play a very quick tempo game, players have to be very fit to play it.

Golden Bear
06-09-2022, 07:51 PM
Good game so far. We should take a lesson from Celtic's quick thinking and movement when they get a throw in.

Benny Brazil
06-09-2022, 07:53 PM
This definitely sticks in the craw, but I've been really impressed by Celtc this first half. They have some serious quality in their side.

Carter-Vickers, Juranovic, Hetate, Jota and Giakoumakis have all be outstanding so far.

I'm away to throw up.

They play some really great football - quick one/two touch stuff- O'Riley is real quality - should have had at least one goal in this game. They may regret not taking one of these chances

bigwheel
06-09-2022, 07:54 PM
Good game so far. We should take a lesson from Celtic's quick thinking and movement when they get a throw in.

What a team Celtic look this season - taking it to different levels.

Glory Lurker
06-09-2022, 07:58 PM
Do they only ever play the same records at half time at Parkhead?

B.H.F.C
06-09-2022, 08:01 PM
Good game so far. We should take a lesson from Celtic's quick thinking and movement when they get a throw in.

Celtic will win the league by miles this season.

So much of what they do is so simple. Obviously they have some really good players but they all sprint forward. Then they all sprint back. And they all have it drummed in to them to start the game as quickly as possible when the game stops.

Scorrie
06-09-2022, 08:02 PM
Maeda about to come on. I’d love us to have a midfielder like him. Great at turning defence to attack. I really rate him

e2los
06-09-2022, 08:04 PM
Celtic definitely holding their own here, they play a very quick tempo game, players have to be very fit to play it.

Can they keep that pace in the second half though?

theonlywayisup
06-09-2022, 08:06 PM
What a team Celtic look this season - taking it to different levels.

They look very entertaining to watch. Good players in all positions.

Paulie Walnuts
06-09-2022, 08:09 PM
Maeda about to come on. I’d love us to have a midfielder like him. Great at turning defence to attack. I really rate him

He’s a striker no?

SlickShoes
06-09-2022, 08:09 PM
Maeda about to come on. I’d love us to have a midfielder like him. Great at turning defence to attack. I really rate him

Just missed a sitter, if he done that for us people would be up in arms and he wouldn't get the chance to make amends.

bigwheel
06-09-2022, 08:10 PM
They look very entertaining to watch. Good players in all positions.

I’ll still be 2-1 Hibs on the predictor ! [emoji23]

Scorrie
06-09-2022, 08:14 PM
He’s a striker no?

Wide midfielder but covers loads of ground

Booked4Being-Ugly
06-09-2022, 08:14 PM
Yeeeha

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 08:14 PM
That’s one of the best transition goals you’ll ever see. Beautiful passing.

Sir David Gray
06-09-2022, 08:14 PM
Hala Madrid 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

Booked4Being-Ugly
06-09-2022, 08:17 PM
Yaaaaaaas

cabbageandribs1875
06-09-2022, 08:18 PM
for the 38th time, i'd take Modric at Hibs

SonOfDavidFrancey
06-09-2022, 08:18 PM
Two ha ha

Sir David Gray
06-09-2022, 08:18 PM
Modric. :not worth

hibsbollah
06-09-2022, 08:18 PM
They are sooo good. 0-2.

Jim44
06-09-2022, 08:19 PM
Disappointing!! :tee hee:

theonlywayisup
06-09-2022, 08:19 PM
Hope Celtic get horsed 9 or 10-0. **** them.

Two goals in two minutes

B.H.F.C
06-09-2022, 08:19 PM
Fair to say Madrid have upped it a bit second half.

SJNB Hibby
06-09-2022, 08:19 PM
for the 38th time, i'd take Modric at Hibs

Celtic playing like Hibs.....you dont take your chances.....

BILLYHIBS
06-09-2022, 08:19 PM
“ Fine margins “ Chris Sutton 😂

Callum_62
06-09-2022, 08:19 PM
Can't afford to miss the chances they have at this level

1st Madrid goal was sheer quality

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green day
06-09-2022, 08:20 PM
ha ha ha ha ha

On a side note, Modric - that man is magnificent

TrinityHibs
06-09-2022, 08:21 PM
Modric could get a game for Hibs but not one for the future

heretoday
06-09-2022, 08:23 PM
Always a pleasure watching the best.

Mcbizz1998
06-09-2022, 08:23 PM
Get it up them! [emoji23]

Paulie Walnuts
06-09-2022, 08:24 PM
for the 38th time, i'd take Modric at Hibs

The best players in the world should be made to pick a team out a hat and play for free when they hit 35.

Could end up at Airdrie, could end up at Boca Juniors.

Scorrie
06-09-2022, 08:24 PM
ha ha ha ha ha

On a side note, Modric - that man is magnificent

He’s a brilliant footballer. Total quality. No sign of slowing down at 37 either

B.H.F.C
06-09-2022, 08:24 PM
Modric could get a game for Hibs but not one for the future

37 this week but still looks like he has years in him.

theonlywayisup
06-09-2022, 08:25 PM
Modric could get a game for Hibs but not one for the future

Imagine the negativity if Hibs signed a 36 year old, few days from 37.