2021-22 season non-Hibs games thread

[cabbageandribs1875]

Andorra 0 Poland 2 10 mins

[Tambo]

England 1 Albania 0 Harry Maguire

Let's hope San Marino do the unthinkable 😂

[Lancs Harp]

2-0 England Kane

[Sir David Gray]

I think Poland winning tonight knocks us down to 6th place in the play off table, which is the last remaining seeded place.

[Lancs Harp]

N. Ireland 1 Lithuania 0
Denmark 1 Faroe 0

[cabbageandribs1875]

Denmark 1 Faroes 0 booo

[Lancs Harp]

Edinburgh City 1 Stranraer 0

[Lancs Harp]

3-0 England Henderson

[Jones28]

Wow Jordan Henderson. Superb goal, 3-0

[cabbageandribs1875]

2-0 Scotland nice goal middleton

and nice run by josh doig

[Tambo]

2-0 Scotland

Some excellent play from Doig.

[Sir David Gray]

Italy 1-1

[Lancs Harp]

4-0 England Kane again. Massacre.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Some excellent play from Doig.


good for his confidence

[Sir David Gray]

Austria 0-1 Israel

Glad we finished the job tonight.

[Scorrie]

4-0 England Kane again. Massacre.

England do tend to get very easy groups. Probably the seeding but a couple of difficult games probably help better than battering dross

[Scorrie]

Italy equaliser v Swiss. Very good game

[Lancs Harp]

England do tend to get very easy groups. Probably the seeding but a couple of difficult games probably help better than battering dross

To be fair Albania are a lot better than they used to be, half their team plays in Italy and they have had some good results in recent years. Their mistake tonight is they have tried to high press and England were just too good for their press and simply played through it.

[Lancs Harp]

5-0 England on half time, Kane hatrick

[cabbageandribs1875]

2-1 Scotland

dreadful defending/goal keeping

[Lago]

4-0 England Kane again. Massacre.
Cricket score incoming 😊

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT 2-1 well done the young dudes



Austria 1 Israel 1


Austria 1 Israel 2

Austria 2 Israel 2


Denmark 2 Faroes 0

[Sir David Gray]

Quite surprised that Poland are only 3-1 up v Andorra after Andorra's been playing with 10 men since the 30th second of the match.

[Irish_Steve]

Ha Ha, Stephen Craigan commentating on the NI game just called Hearts a "very strange team" lol

[Sir David Gray]

3-2 Austria

[cabbageandribs1875]

4-1 polaski

[Sir David Gray]

Penalty Italy in the 88th minute.

[JimBHibees]

Penalty Italy in the 88th minute.

Not a pen very very soft

Justice

[Sir David Gray]

Italy miss penalty - woeful.

[SJNB Hibby]

Italy miss penalty - woeful.

1-1 is not a good result for us seeding wise

[SJNB Hibby]

Faeroes score against Denmark!!

[Sir David Gray]

1-1 is not a good result for us seeding wise

Yes it means the second placed team will probably finish on 18 points which is out of our reach.

[Lancs Harp]

Edinburgh City 3 Stranraer 1 final

[Lancs Harp]

Austria 4 Israel 2
England 5 Albania 0
Hungary 4 San Marino 0
NI 1 Lithuania 0
Denmark 3 Faroe 1
Andorra 1 Poland 4
Italy 1 Switzerland 1

[Sir David Gray]

So the play off table now looks like this;

Seeded

Serbia - 17
Switzerland - 15
Sweden - 15
Croatia - 14
Poland - 14
Scotland - 14

Unseeded

Czech Republic - 11
Norway - 11
North Macedonia - 9
Ukraine - 9
Wales - NL
Austria - NL

A draw for Scotland v Denmark should be enough to be seeded.

[JimBHibees]

So the play off table now looks like this;

Seeded

Serbia - 17
Switzerland - 15
Sweden - 15
Croatia - 14
Poland - 14
Scotland - 14

Unseeded

Czech Republic - 11
Norway - 11
North Macedonia - 9
Ukraine - 9
Wales - NL
Austria - NL

A draw for Scotland v Denmark should be enough to be seeded.

Norway have Latvia at home then away to Holland who have already qualified so assume a minimum 14. Czech at home to Estonia only one game left. Norway have plus 2 Czech plus 3 assume both likely to surpass our plus 5 especially if we lose to Denmark. Turkey still in the running also. Do Czech take the play off place if finish 3rd behind Wales who have qualified through nations league?

Here is link to play off situation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_–_UEFA_Second_Ro und

[Sir David Gray]

Norway have Latvia at home then away to Holland who have already qualified so assume a minimum 14. Czech at home to Estonia only one game left. Norway have plus 2 Czech plus 3 assume both likely to surpass our plus 5 especially if we lose to Denmark. Turkey still in the running also. Do Czech take the play off place if finish 3rd behind Wales who have qualified through nations league?

Here is link to play off situation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_–_UEFA_Second_Ro und

As far as I'm aware if Wales finish 2nd then Czech Republic qualify through the Nations League and vice versa if Czech Republic finish 2nd.

The only way I can see a defeat for Scotland on Monday being enough to be seeded is if the Czech Republic fail to beat Estonia.

If the Czech Republic win I believe Scotland need a point.

[SHODAN]

As far as I'm aware if Wales finish 2nd then Czech Republic qualify through the Nations League and vice versa if Czech Republic finish 2nd.

The only way I can see a defeat for Scotland on Monday being enough to be seeded is if the Czech Republic fail to beat Estonia.

If the Czech Republic win I believe Scotland need a point.

Either way you just know we're going to get the Czechs in the playoff.

[Sir David Gray]

Just checked - Balogun and Aribo are also away with Nigeria.

Sakala also played for Zambia today - scored a hat-trick v Mauritania.

[Sir David Gray]

Either way you just know we're going to get the Czechs in the playoff.

They would be tough but I'd probably rather play them than Croatia, Poland or Sweden.

[cabbageandribs1875]

only the one goal so far in the championship

Hamilton 0 Raith 1


same in League one

Dumbarton 0 Falkirk 1

[Coco Bryce]

Watching ICT v Pars.

Yogi's team giving it a 'right good go'

[Sir David Gray]

Inverness 1-0 Dunfermline

[Highwayman]

I was talking to a Jambo about the current Scotland Squads.

I mentioned that I didn’t see Aaron Hickey included in the Under 21 Squad.

He said that Hickey had made it clear to the powers that be,that he didn’t want to be included in any of the current squads.

Has anyone else heard anything about this,as IMO if this is true doesn’t look good for Hickeys international future.

Or is this a case of Jambo getting it wrong again.

[Radium]

https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/internationals/scotland-u21-boss-sends-aaron-hickey-message-after-latest-squad-withdrawal/amp/

Report on Hickey having turned down every call up to U21s

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[Renfrew_Hibby]

I was talking to a Jambo about the current Scotland Squads.

I mentioned that I didn’t see Aaron Hickey included in the Under 21 Squad.

He said that Hickey had made it clear to the powers that be,that he didn’t want to be included in any of the current squads.

Has anyone else heard anything about this,as IMO if this is true doesn’t look good for Hickeys international future.

Or is this a case of Jambo getting it wrong again.

Dont know much about the situation or the lad but this isn't another James McCarthy, holding out for someone else, or is it something different altogether?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Dont know much about the situation or the lad but this isn't another James McCarthy, holding out for someone else, or is it something different altogether?

Interesting. McCarthy and McGeady chose ROI over Scotland whereas he’s just not turning up for Scotland.

Wonder if he’s just got ahead of himself?

[JimBHibees]

Interesting. McCarthy and McGeady chose ROI over Scotland whereas he’s just not turning up for Scotland.

Wonder if he’s just got ahead of himself?

Might be something to do with Covid. Maybe his club don't want him to travel.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hamilton 0 Raith 3 again i say they need to ask Brian Rice to come back



Caley 1 Dunfy 1
Ayr 0 Harry Wraggs 2

[Alfred E Newman]

Watching ICT v Pars.

Yogi's team giving it a 'right good go'

It’s good to see yogi back in the dugout. His post match interviews are priceless!

[Coco Bryce]

It’s good to see yogi back in the dugout. His post match interviews are priceless!

He's certainly gave them a boot up the arse at HT 🤣

[Hibeesforever]

Yogi's Pars 1-2 up!

[SHODAN]

Yogi off to a fantastic start as things stand.

[Since452]

https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/internationals/scotland-u21-boss-sends-aaron-hickey-message-after-latest-squad-withdrawal/amp/

Report on Hickey having turned down every call up to U21s

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He's tired

[Alfred E Newman]

He's certainly gave them a boot up the arse at HT 🤣

The slippers are off!

[SHODAN]

If Latvia can hold out for a draw here that'd be great for us. Almost puts Norway out of contention for a seeded place.

[Sir David Gray]

If Latvia can hold out for a draw here that'd be great for us. Almost puts Norway out of contention for a seeded place.

It probably puts Norway out altogether as they play the Netherlands in their last game and Turkey play Montenegro.

Turkey just need to match Norway's result to finish ahead of them.

[JimBHibees]

It probably puts Norway out altogether as they play the Netherlands in their last game and Turkey play Montenegro.

Turkey just need to match Norway's result to finish ahead of them.

Could do with Montenegro getting a result v Turkey

[BILLYHIBS]

Wales 1 v 0 Belarus

Ramsey

[PatHead]

If Latvia can hold out for a draw here that'd be great for us. Almost puts Norway out of contention for a seeded place.

Finished 0-0 so how does that suit us?

[Sir David Gray]

Finished 0-0 so how does that suit us?

Norway are probably now out as they're away to the Netherlands in their last game, Turkey are still a potential problem though especially if they beat Montenegro in their last game as they'll go to 15 points, which means they would go above us if we lose to Denmark.

If we draw with Denmark then we'll possibly still finish above Turkey as we're currently on +5 and Turkey's on +1 so if we draw then Turkey would need to beat Montenegro 4-0 to overtake us on goals scored.

[PatHead]

Norway are probably now out as they're away to the Netherlands in their last game, Turkey are still a potential problem though especially if they beat Montenegro in their last game as they'll go to 15 points, which means they would go above us if we lose to Denmark.

If we draw with Denmark then we'll possibly still finish above Turkey as we're currently on +5 and Turkey's on +1 so if we draw then Turkey would need to beat Montenegro 4-0 to overtake us on goals scored.

Thanks. If Turkey don't win. Are we home then?

[Sir David Gray]

Montenegro 2-2 Netherlands

[Sir David Gray]

Thanks. If Turkey don't win. Are we home then?

Czech Republic or Wales could also beat us to a seeded place.

[Northernhibee]

Yogi off to a fantastic start as things stand.

He’s another manager who would be held in much higher regard if he didn’t have a working class accent or a more exotic sounding name. Got a lot of time for Yogi.

[SHODAN]

Aaand now we're in the bottom seeds after Wales thrash Belarus.

[Sir David Gray]

So the play off table now looks like this;

Seeded

Serbia - 17
Switzerland - 15
Sweden - 15
Croatia - 14
Poland - 14
Scotland - 14

Unseeded

Czech Republic - 11
Norway - 11
North Macedonia - 9
Ukraine - 9
Wales - NL
Austria - NL

A draw for Scotland v Denmark should be enough to be seeded.

Updated after tonight's matches;

Seeded

Serbia - 17 (GD+8) Away to Portugal in final match
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+7) Away to Spain in final match
Croatia - 14 (GD+12) Home to Russia in final match
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
North Macedonia - 9 (GD+1) Home to Iceland in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

[green day]

Updated after tonight's matches;

Seeded

Serbia - 17 (GD+8) Away to Portugal in final match
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+7) Away to Spain in final match
Croatia - 14 (GD+12) Home to Russia in final match
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
North Macedonia - 9 (GD+1) Home to Iceland in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

So, it's down to who loses least goals between us and Wales !

[SJNB Hibby]

So, it's down to who loses least goals between us and Wales !

No...Turkey are still in the mix. Montenegro are pointless agaisnt the top 3 so could easily lose by a few....they, like Wales will know whats needed after our game is over

[green day]

No...Turkey are still in the mix. Montenegro are pointless agaisnt the top 3 so could easily lose by a few....they, like Wales will know whats needed after our game is over

Good point about turkey, cheers.

[Newry Hibs]

So, it's down to who loses least goals between us and Wales !

I suspect turkey will get to 15 points as well.
Or even win the group with the runner up being at least 15 points.

Beaten to it!

[hibeg]

I would be happy to be drawn against any of them apart from the Swiss

[Sir David Gray]

So permutations (I think!) for Scotland to get seeded in the play off draw;

Win - Guaranteed to be seeded.

Draw - In Group E - We would need Belgium to beat Wales or if it's a draw between Belgium and Wales our draw needs to be higher scoring than theirs by two goals - i.e. 2-2 v 0-0.

We would also need help in Group G - We need no more than one of Netherlands, Turkey and Norway to reach 21 points and if two of them do get 21 points, we would need those teams to have a goal difference of less than +5.

Netherlands are out of reach in terms of goal difference, Turkey are currently on +1 and Norway are on +2. Our best bet would be Netherlands beating Norway and Turkey beating Montenegro by less than 4-0.

Loss - In Group E - We would need Belgium to beat Wales than a bigger scoreline than we lose to Denmark AND Czech Republic to draw or lose to Estonia.

Also in Group G - Norway fail to beat Netherlands AND Turkey fail to beat Montenegro.

All very complicated, if anyone spots a mistake feel free to correct me.

If I'm right with my permutations then I'd say our chances of being seeded with a draw are about 80% and a loss at less than 5%.

[scoopyboy]

I agree we need something from Denmark game to be seeded, however not the end of the world if we are unseeded.

We can go for it on Monday in the knowledge we have another game coming up

[hibsbollah]

I would be happy to be drawn against any of them apart from the Swiss

We’d be underdogs against all the seeded teams (possibly excluding Wales?) and narrow favourites against the unseeded teams (but I don’t fancy playing Turkey either).

[JimBHibees]

We’d be underdogs against all the seeded teams (possibly excluding Wales?) and narrow favourites against the unseeded teams (but I don’t fancy playing Turkey either).

I wouldn't mind Turkey thought they were pretty poor in the Euros. Wouldn't mind Wales or Norway either.

[JimBHibees]

No...Turkey are still in the mix. Montenegro are pointless agaisnt the top 3 so could easily lose by a few....they, like Wales will know whats needed after our game is over

Montenegro just drew with Holland last night from two goals down and drew with Turkey in Istanbul 2 2 so clearly not pointless against better teams and assume will fancy their chances on Tuesday.

Your point about knowing what they need to do is absolutely valid though. Big advantage though other side is could put them under pressure if don't score early.

[Sir David Gray]

Montenegro just drew with Holland last night from two goals down and drew with Turkey in Istanbul 2 2 so clearly not pointless against better teams and assume will fancy their chances on Tuesday.

Your point about knowing what they need to do is absolutely valid though. Big advantage though other side is could put them under pressure if don't score early.

Obviously the flip side to that is if Scotland get a win v Denmark tomorrow then we know we have done what we need to do.

[JimBHibees]

Obviously the flip side to that is if Scotland get a win v Denmark tomorrow then we know we have done what we need to do.

True enough

[hibsbollah]

I wouldn't mind Turkey thought they were pretty poor in the Euros. Wouldn't mind Wales or Norway either.

They were really poor in the Euros, spot on. I can only imagine there was some sort of stuff going on behind the scenes because their best players are world class, and they are still playing really well at their clubs. Have beaten Holland and Norway, I’d want to avoid them. (Holland did hump them 6-1 also so clearly one of those teams that on their day can blow up)

[Scorrie]

Croatia v Russia game a bit of a fiasco now. Standing water on the pitch

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Croatia beat Russia 1-0 to qualify automatically. Russia in the play offs.

[SJNB Hibby]

N Macedonia beating Iceland 1-0, theyre 1 point ahead of Rumania who are winning 1-0 at Lichtenstein, and likley to grab all 3 points. Not worried by either one of them, but would prefer NM

[Sir David Gray]

North Macedonia 1-1 Iceland

Romania still beating Liechtenstein so Romania will go into the play offs now as things stand.

[Sir David Gray]

2-1 North Macedonia.

They're back in the play offs.

[Sir David Gray]

3-1

[Sir David Gray]

Full time 3-1 North Macedonia.

[GRA]

Looking at the various permutations I'd say we need to get a win to be seeded.

If we get a draw then the likes of Turkey or Wales (who play the day after our game) will know exactly what result (or Goal difference) they need to be seeded, playing against teams with nothing to play for, which will give them the upper hand IMO.

Being seeded is massive, our only chance at having a shot of the WC IMO.

[Sir David Gray]

Looking at the various permutations I'd say we need to get a win to be seeded.

If we get a draw then the likes of Turkey or Wales (who play the day after our game) will know exactly what result (or Goal difference) they need to be seeded, playing against teams with nothing to play for, which will give them the upper hand IMO.

Being seeded is massive, our only chance at having a shot of the WC IMO.

I'm fairly confident that a draw would be enough.

I think Belgium will beat Wales, Netherlands will beat Norway (Netherlands still have something to play for, if they lose to Norway they could go out altogether) and I don't see Turkey beating Montenegro by 4+ goals.

[B.H.F.C]

Looking at the various permutations I'd say we need to get a win to be seeded.

If we get a draw then the likes of Turkey or Wales (who play the day after our game) will know exactly what result (or Goal difference) they need to be seeded, playing against teams with nothing to play for, which will give them the upper hand IMO.

Being seeded is massive, our only chance at having a shot of the WC IMO.

We’ve had some decent results away from home in the last year so we’d still have a chance IMO. Would definitely be preferable to be seeded but most important thing tomorrow, for me, is that we don’t end up with any suspensions to the likes of McGinn, Gilmour or Robertson.

[J-C]

Spain v Sweden about to start, should be a good game.

[Sir David Gray]

Portugal 1-0 Serbia

Looks like Serbia will be in the play offs.

[Paul1642]

Portugal 1-0 Serbia

Looks like Serbia will be in the play offs.

Good. Portugal are not a team I would want to face. We have shown we can ge toast Serbia on our day.

[Sir David Gray]

Good. Portugal are not a team I would want to face. We have shown we can ge toast Serbia on our day.

Yeah I don't think we would have any chance of beating Portugal.

Serbia would be far more winnable.

[Sir David Gray]

Portugal 1-1 Serbia

Portugal will top the group as long as they don't lose.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Spain v Sweden has been quite poor so far.

[Coco Bryce]

Spain v Sweden has been quite poor so far.

Dreadful. I had to turn it off.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

1 0 Spain Morata

[Sir David Gray]

Portugal 1-2 Serbia

Portugal in the play offs.

[SteveHFC]

Last minute winner for Serbia.

[SHODAN]

Portugal 1-2 Serbia

Portugal in the play offs.

If they're in our bracket we can forget it.

[B.H.F.C]

Portugal a bit like Man Utd. Loads of quality players but not a team with Ronaldo wandering about moaning at everyone.

[hibbysam]

If they're in our bracket we can forget it.

Not just them. The seeded teams will be:
Portugal
Switzerland/Italy
Sweden
Russia
Poland
Wales/Czech/Turkey if it’s not us.

Probably two of them, at least one game away from home. Seeding is everything and should have been wrapped up already.

[Magpie]

Not just them. The seeded teams will be:
Portugal
Switzerland/Italy
Sweden
Russia
Poland
Wales/Czech/Turkey if it’s not us.

Probably two of them, at least one game away from home. Seeding is everything and should have been wrapped up already.

I can’t see Scotland beating any of those teams, especially away.

[Sir David Gray]

Updated after tonight's matches;

Seeded

Serbia - 17 (GD+8) Away to Portugal in final match
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+7) Away to Spain in final match
Croatia - 14 (GD+12) Home to Russia in final match
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
North Macedonia - 9 (GD+1) Home to Iceland in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

[Fergus52]

If they're in our bracket we can forget it.

If Serbia can beat them why can't we.

Obviously they're miles better than us on paper but in a one off match anything can happen

[Sir David Gray]

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

The only currently seeded team I'd want us to play would be Wales and I can't see them finishing as a seed as I reckon the Czech Republic will take their place.

In short I think it's absolutely vital we get at least a point tomorrow as I don't see us winning away against any of the seeded sides if the Czechs do make it.

[gbhibby]

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL
So all to play for against Denmark. Wales and Poland need to win as well to guarantee seeding. A win would take us above
Russia and Sweden so the Swiss have to win their match. Should be an interesting evening. Just do it Scotland.

[Magpie]

The only currently seeded team I'd want us to play would be Wales and I can't see them finishing as a seed as I reckon the Czech Republic will take their place.

In short I think it's absolutely vital we get at least a point tomorrow as I don't see us winning away against any of the seeded sides if the Czechs do make it.

Wales have only lost 1 of their last 5 games against Belgium, winning 2 of them. If Martinez decides to give caps to a weakened side as they have already qualified then Wales have a good chance of taking something from the game. Wales are highly underrated by many on here.

[B.H.F.C]

The only currently seeded team I'd want us to play would be Wales and I can't see them finishing as a seed as I reckon the Czech Republic will take their place.

In short I think it's absolutely vital we get at least a point tomorrow as I don't see us winning away against any of the seeded sides if the Czechs do make it.

I think we’d have half a chance against Poland, think we’ve got a result there on our last couple of visits. Sweden are pretty efficient but would be beatable. Particularly when you can win with a draw.

Wouldn’t fancy Portugal, Russia or Switzerland.

[A Hi-Bee]

Wales have only lost 1 of their last 5 games against Belgium, winning 2 of them. If Martinez decides to give caps to a weakened side as they have already qualified then Wales have a good chance of taking something from the game. Wales are highly underrated by many on here.

Have to agree, they have a very decent balanced side who would pump Scotland.

[blackpoolhibs]

Have to agree, they have a very decent balanced side who would pump Scotland.
We dont get pumped these days, beaten yes, but not pumped and certainly not by Wales.

[A Hi-Bee]

We dont get pumped these days, beaten yes, but not pumped and certainly not by Wales.

Perhaps the wrong word/description but you get my meaning, so you stick to your opinion and i will stick to my opinion. Wales would win against Scotland how does that agree with your constitution sir?.

[blackpoolhibs]

Perhaps the wrong word/description but you get my meaning, so you stick to your opinion and i will stick to my opinion. Wales would win against Scotland how does that agree with your constitution sir?.
I think it would be close, could go either way.

[Scouse Hibee]

Perhaps the wrong word/description but you get my meaning, so you stick to your opinion and i will stick to my opinion. Wales would win against Scotland how does that agree with your constitution sir?.

Given the games between Scotland and England in recent years have been close I certainly wouldn’t write Scotland off against Wales.

[SHODAN]

We can beat any team in the draw and they can beat any of us.

The most realistic "good" pathway, conditional on seeding, would probably be:

Scotland v Finland, at home in final if we win
Poland v Austria (North Macedonia prob second weakest team but doubt they'd beat Poland)

Worst case scenario would be:

Russia v Czech Republic
Portugal v Scotland, away in final if we win

[JimBHibees]

I think it would be close, could go either way.

Undoubtedly would be a close game don't think much between both teams and no way would we be getting pumped by them. They are dependent on Ramsay I think for their creative spark and Bale not as good though have a number of decent quality players exactly like us. Would be relatively happy if we got Wales.

[hibsbollah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLQ3Mdp0xUQ

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/59290195

Unbelievable penalty decision; South Africa asking for a replay of the game, this penalty put Ghana into the world cup, the Senegalese ref under a bit of suspicion.

[Hiber-nation]

Souttar starts in place of Hendry. Christie in for Armstrong. Dykes out.

[JimBHibees]

Souttar starts in place of Hendry. Christie in for Armstrong. Dykes out.

Strange one that

[Hiber-nation]

Strange one that

Which one?

[Hibs90]

Porteous is better than Souttar.

[04Sauzee]

Souttar starts in place of Hendry. Christie in for Armstrong. Dykes out.

McKenna's bum must be right out the window.

[weecounty hibby]

McKenna's bum must be right out the window.
Good. Probably one of the most overrated players I've ever seen

[Billy Whizz]

McKenna's bum must be right out the window.

He’s a leftie

[cabbageandribs1875]

We can beat any team in the draw and they can beat any of us.

The most realistic "good" pathway, conditional on seeding, would probably be:

Scotland v Finland, at home in final if we win
Poland v Austria (North Macedonia prob second weakest team but doubt they'd beat Poland)

Worst case scenario would be:

Russia v Czech Republic
Portugal v Scotland, away in final if we win


i guarantee 110% Austria won't be involved, indeed i'd put a lot of money on it :)

[Hiber-nation]

McKenna's bum must be right out the window.

Cooper and Tierney are both left sided so McKenna would only come in for one of them.

[SHODAN]

i guarantee 110% Austria won't be involved, indeed i'd put a lot of money on it :)

Austria are qualifying via the Nations League.

[JimBHibees]

Which one?

Souttar defensively poor imo

[CropleyWasGod]

i guarantee 110% Austria won't be involved, indeed i'd put a lot of money on it :)

Before I take that bet, are you saying that Scotland and Austria would be kept apart in the draw? :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Good. Probably one of the most overrated players I've ever seen

I'm not disputing that 😁 He was a regular starter for quite a while

[Hiber-nation]

Souttar defensively poor imo

Souttar was the only alternative I suppose to avoid too playing many lefties and he was always going to be picked before Ryan.

[JohnM1875]

Souttar was the only alternative I suppose to avoid too playing many lefties and he was always going to be picked before Ryan.

If course he was. Called up before Ryan this camp so it would have been bizarre if Ryan started ahead of him.

Can't say I know too much about Souttar if I'm honest. But a lot of folk seem to think he's brilliant. Hopefully leaves that lot in the summer for nothing when his contract is up.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Austria are qualifying via the Nations League.


kin heck, well noticed :lips seal


Before I take that bet, are you saying that Scotland and Austria would be kept apart in the draw? :greengrin


calm down calm down, when i say a lot of money i mean maybe £1-£1.50p, i probably won't risk it though this time :devil:

[hibsbollah]

Weakened Denmark team. Back three and keeper the same as the Euros, and the very good Maehle on the left. The other 6 more forward players are all different from the England semifinal.

[Sir David Gray]

Referee has shown 18 yellow cards in his last 2 La Liga games. 🙄

[cabbageandribs1875]

mon scotland get in aboot thum




anyone got a packet of soothers for Ally McCoist

[JXM73]

mon scotland get in aboot thum




anyone got a packet of soothers for Ally McCoist

Waiting for him to belt out bette davis eyes..

[Gmack7]

Waiting for him to belt out bette davis eyes..

😃

[cabbageandribs1875]

Waiting for him to belt out bette davis eyes..


i was thinking more of it's a heartache by Bonnie Tyler

[cabbageandribs1875]

absolutely pathetic by that keeper, pathetic

[dchibs]

mon scotland get in aboot thum




anyone got a packet of soothers for Ally McCoist

He should suck a fishermans friend.:aok:

[cabbageandribs1875]

He should suck a fishermans friend.:aok:


oooer

[Paul1642]

Playing well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

keeper blocks from adams :(

[Sir David Gray]

Thought that was in!

[B.H.F.C]

Decent save but should have burst the net from there.

Doing all right here.

[Sir David Gray]

What a goal that would have been.

Scotland's playing some lovely stuff.

[cabbageandribs1875]

pass back to Robertson man :(

[Northernhibee]

I would be bricking it if we were to draw us in a one off knockout game. Very tough team to beat.

[cabbageandribs1875]

yassssssssssssss :saltireflag:saltireflag:saltireflag

[Sir David Gray]

Yaaaaaaas 1-0

Souttar.

[Paul1642]

Yaaas

[cabbageandribs1875]

great header back from cooper

[The Modfather]

Get in.

I’ve only seen the last 20 minutes, and Denmark are on holiday mode, but this is possibly the best we’ve played under Clarke. No one will want to play us at a rocking Hampden!

[HoboHarry]

Can't recall when I last cheered on a Jambo.....

[Jim44]

We’ve got them worried now. Hope we keep the ‘press’ on them.

[Northernhibee]

Jambo fud or not, after everything Souttar has been through I’m pleased for him.

[JXM73]

This team really are likeable.... maybe clarke does know what he's doing...

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT soon shirly

[Sir David Gray]

Poland losing to Hungary which is great for us if we happen to go on and draw tonight.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Poland 0 Hungary 1

the stars are alligning

[B.H.F.C]

As brilliant as Gilmour has been since he came in, McGregor has been a different player since they started playing together. Perfect balance with the two of them and McGinn.

[Sir David Gray]

England 6-0 up v San Marino.

[Hibs90]

Once again, Scotland have been excellent and playing some really good football.

[J-C]

Why has everyone jumped onto this thread to post Scotland comments, just logged in and no comments on the Scotland thread from the weekend.

[Keyser Sauzee]

As brilliant as Gilmour has been since he came in, McGregor has been a different player since they started playing together. Perfect balance with the two of them and McGinn.

I was very critical of McGregor on here but I have to say he’s proved me wrong, he’s been different class for us recently, barely putting a foot wrong and we look to have found the perfect balance with him Gilmore and McGinn in front of them.

[Sir David Gray]

Thought that was in.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Why has everyone jumped onto this thread to post Scotland comments, just logged in and no comments on the Scotland thread from the weekend.


for huge international games like this their should really be a thread all on it's own

[SHODAN]

Scotland are... Not pish?

I need a moment.

[Sir David Gray]

Half way there.

Brilliant performance so far.

[lord bunberry]

Excellent 45 minutes from Scotland.

[Coco Bryce]

John McGinn 😍😍

[HibsGW]

Really enjoying the Scotland games this past couple of years. Lots of great players in that team.

[Lago]

This team really are likeable.... maybe clarke does know what he's doing...
They are, kind of remind me of Scottish teams when I was much younger, a mix of anglos & home Scots and various clubs but they all appear to want play for Scotland, terrific to see & credit to Steve Clarke.

[Paul1642]

Best 45 from Scotland in a long long time, especially taking the opposition into account.

[Lago]

Why has everyone jumped onto this thread to post Scotland comments, just logged in and no comments on the Scotland thread from the weekend.
So as you would have something to complain about 😉

[Jones28]

We look a better side without McTominay.

Superb first half.

[Sir David Gray]

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

As it stands...👀

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Scotland - 17 (GD+6) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Switzerland - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+8) Group finished

Unseeded

Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

[Hibs90]

Best 45 from Scotland in a long long time, especially taking the opposition into account.

To a man, absolutely outstanding.

But what's impressed me most is the style of play and tempo.

[Paul1642]

To have played such attacking football and not going in ahead at the break would have been moral breaking. Such an important goal.

[CentreLine]

Super John McGinn playing a stormer tonight again. Is that the same John McGinn that the sports genius that is Tom English told us was barely good enough to make the bench at Celtic? 🤔

[CmoantheHibs]

Excellent first half playing attractive football. Some outstanding performances so far. Keep it up lads.

[Paul1642]

As it stands Italy are going to be a seeded team. All the more reason we need to be seeded (not that the Swiss would have been an easy game)

[HibbyAndy]

Will a draw see us seeded or do we need to win ?

[Sir David Gray]

Will a draw see us seeded or do we need to win ?

A draw should be ok but by no means guaranteed.

[Sir David Gray]

2-0 Switzerland.

[Scorrie]

Not his biggest fan but Calum McGregor has been superb tonight. Scotland’s midfield has been excellent

[Sir David Gray]

Poland 1-1 Hungary

[Sir David Gray]

3-0 Switzerland

[SJNB Hibby]

3-0 Switzerland

Now Italy need to win by 2

[hibsbollah]

Now Italy need to win by 2


Very surprising, they were unbeatable in 30+games not long ago.

[MWHIBBIES]

Very surprising, they were unbeatable in 30+games not long ago.

They still are, they haven't lost in this group. Jorginho skied a penalty to win the group the other night.

[Sir David Gray]

Switzerland only 2-0, 3rd goal ruled out by VAR.

[NC1875]

They still are, they haven't lost in this group. Jorginho skied a penalty to win the group the other night.

And done me out of £300 in the process! Unbelievable Jeff

[SaulGoodman]

Che Adams’ best game for Scotland tonight

[Sir David Gray]

Now it's 3-0 Switzerland!

[Sir David Gray]

9-0 England.

[Sir David Gray]

Israel 2-2 Faroe Islands

[Sir David Gray]

Now it's 3-0 Switzerland!

Nope still 2-0.

Second Swiss goal disallowed by VAR in about 5 minutes!

[Sir David Gray]

This is getting silly - 3-0 Switzerland.

I think...

[Sir David Gray]

9-0 England.

Only 8-0 goal disallowed.

[SaulGoodman]

Only 8-0 goal disallowed.

You arguing with yourself is making my night.

[Sir David Gray]

You arguing with yourself is making my night.

:faf:

[Paul1642]

Lots of back passing creeping into our game.

[Sir David Gray]

9-0 England.

[Since452]

Gordon is a great keeper but his kicking pisses me off. Never finds a man.

[Aldo]

9-0 England.

Eh naw

10!

You could pick 11 Gadgies off the street and they’d be better than San Marino


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[Sir David Gray]

Poland 1-2 Hungary

[Sir David Gray]

Yaaaaaaas 2-0!!!

[stokesmessiah]

Wowzers !!

[Joe6-2]

Ya beauty!!!

[SaulGoodman]

That’s close

[Off the bar]

Yessssss

[Scorrie]

What a goal!!!

[CmoantheHibs]

Get in. Adams deserved that. Scotland deserved it.

[Sir David Gray]

What a goal that would have been.

[SaulGoodman]

That’s close

Must’ve just been me then 😂

[OtleyHibs]

Could've been 3
Outstanding performance tonight Scotland

[Magpie]

Poland 1-2 Hungary

Keeps Wales in a great position to be seeded. They will only need a draw tomorrow if Poland lose.

[CmoantheHibs]

How did Armstrong miss that

[J-C]

Cracking goal by Adams and almost a 3rd, what has happened to the team, suddenly they look immense.

[Hibs90]

Wow.

What a performance

[vercol36]

Who the **** is this team and what have they done with Scotland?!

[Joe6-2]

Someone should tell Steven Pressley we are winning, what a dour bugger

[Since452]

And folk wanted Clarke out

[Magpie]

Italy will join Portugal in the Play Offs.

[NC1875]

Unbelievable performance. Fight and team spirit in abundance

[Sir David Gray]

Outstanding from Scotland, one of the best performances of my lifetime from a Scottish team.

[Joe6-2]

Fantastic SJM superb

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Superb showing.

[CmoantheHibs]

Fantastic result and performance. Every single player was immense.

[Magpie]

Fantastic SJM superb

I hope he moves to a bigger club than Villa, he deserves it.

[JohnM1875]

What a performance that was! Fantastic. Roll on March.

[Hiber-nation]

23 points...that is unbelievable!!

[HH81]

Clarke and this Scotland team are class.

[B.H.F.C]

Pretty unlucky not to have qualified with 23 points surely.

[GRA]

Tremendous performance when it mattered most. Not often Scotland outplay and beat a team ranked in the World top 10! What a contrast from the game in Copenhagen in early September. Super Stevie Clarke working his magic once again!

[Sir David Gray]

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Scotland - 17 (GD+7) Group finished
Italy - 16 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+8) Group finished

Unseeded

Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

[The Modfather]

They should start carving our name into the World Cup now 😀

[JohnM1875]

Pretty unlucky not to have qualified with 23 points surely.

Minus 6 as we're in a group of six teams.

[A Hi-Bee]

Well **** me credit where credits due, they played very very well, and SJMc is worth his weight in gold.

[RyeSloan]

Clarke must go.

We might have won but it was a dead rubber for Denmark

His teams are a dour as him.

Or something like that [emoji1787]


Fantastic win and wonderful performance again!

[Lago]

What a power of work Adams put in tonight, plus a superb goal.

[A Hi-Bee]

Tremendous performance when it mattered most. Not often Scotland outplay and beat a team ranked in the World top 10! What a contrast from the game in Copenhagen in early September. Super Stevie Clarke working his magic once again!

Lets no get carried away, this was a Danish team nothing like the one we played over in Denmark, but a great result all the same.

[Northernhibee]

We're a really good football team. Nobody will want to draw us.

[HoboHarry]

Sing along now, we're on the march wi Clarkies army, we're going tae the Middle East.....

[blackpoolhibs]

Updated after today's matches;

Seeded

Portugal - 17 (GD+11) Group finished
Scotland - 17 (GD+7) Group finished
Italy - 16 (GD+11) Group finished
Russia - 16 (GD+9) Group finished
Sweden - 15 (GD+6) Group finished
Poland - 14 (GD+8) Group finished

Unseeded

Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match
North Macedonia - 12 (GD+3) Group finished
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

I want Wales, i reckon we'd pump them.

[heretoday]

They should start carving our name into the World Cup now 😀

"We're on the march with Stevie's army......................."

[JohnM1875]

We're a really good football team. Nobody will want to draw us.

True. Especially as we're guaranteed to be playing at Hampden.