Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[SHODAN]

Confirmed in (16):
Momodou Bojang, one year loan (striker, Rainbow)
Martin Boyle, three year contract (midfielder, Al-Faisaly)
Rocky Bushiri, three year contract (defender, Norwich)
Marijan Cabraja, three year contract (defender, Dinamo Zagreb)
Will Fish, one year loan (defender, Man Utd)
Ewan Henderson, three year contract (midfielder, Celtic)
Nohan Kenneh, three year contract (midfielder, Leeds)
Mykola Kukharevych, one year loan (striker, Troyes)
David Marshall, two year contract (goalkeeper, QPR)
Kyle McClelland, three year contract (defender, Rangers)
Aiden McGeady, one year contract (midfielder, Sunderland)
Harry McKirdy, three year contract (striker, Swindon)
Lewis Miller, three year contract (defender, Macarthur)
Ryan Schofield, one year loan (goalkeeper, Huddersfield)
Jair Tavares, four year contract (midfielder, Benfica)
Elie Youan, one year loan (striker, St Gallen)

Confirmed new contracts (2):
Chris Cadden (three years)
Joe Newell (three years)

Confirmed out (14):
Scott Allan (Arbroath)
Harry Clarke (Stoke)
Josh Doig (Verona)
Alex Gogic (St Mirren)
Sylvester Jasper (Fulham)
Matt Macey (Luton)
Sean Mackie (Falkirk)
Paul McGinn (Motherwell)
David Mitchell (Partick)
Chris Mueller (Chicago Fire)
Jamie Murphy (St Johnstone)
Innes Murray (Edinburgh)
James Scott (Hull)
Drey Wright (St Johnstone)

Confirmed out on loan (9):
Joao Balde (East Fife)
Jack Brydon (Edinburgh)
Allan Delferriere (Edinburgh)
Christian Doidge (Kilmarnock)
Runar Hauge (Dundalk)
EJ Johnson (Edinburgh)
Murray Johnson (Airdrie)
Dan MacKay (Inverness)
Dylan Tait (Arbroath)

[JimBHibees]

Summer it was sub zero last night :greengrin

[Since452]

Think this will be a very busy window both in the way and out.

[OldEast]

Think this will be a very busy window both in the way and out.

It needs to be

[Unseen work]

Out of contract

Drey Wright
Scott Allan
Innes Murray
James Scott - Loan expired
Rocky Bushiri - Loan expired (Option to buy)
Sylvester Jasper - Loan expired (option to buy)

Final year

Kevin Dabrowski
David Mitchell
Ryan Porteous
Lewis Stevenson
Darren McGregor
Matt Macey
Chris Cadden
Harry Clarke (loan expires)

Returning from loan

Dan Mackay
Dylan Tait
Steven Bradley (option to recall in summer)
Joao Balde
Jack Brydon


Being realistic what can we expect to see this summer with players leaving and coming in?

I would say Scott, Allan and Wright should all leave and it’s quite an easy decision but Maloney has played Wright a lot, is that purely for now as he has limited options or does he rate him? Wright also starts ahead of one of our big signings in Mueller, does Maloney think he’s better or is it a case of Mueller needing a break and pre season?

I can 100% see us signing Rocky and Jasper permanent.

As for the players in the final year I can see Porteous moving on so we get a fee and likely in his best interest. McGregor is one I can see doing a Gray and hanging up his boots to coach. Dabrowski is an odd one, done well for us when called upon but that might now give him suiters in our league that will play him regularly and not as back up. For me Cadden needs an extension and I’d also love to see Clarke sign permanently.

[Henderson2Del]

Out of contract

Drey Wright
Scott Allan
Innes Murray
James Scott - Loan expired
Rocky Bushiri - Loan expired (Option to buy)
Sylvester Jasper - Loan expired (option to buy)

Final year

Kevin Dabrowski
David Mitchell
Ryan Porteous
Lewis Stevenson
Darren McGregor
Matt Macey
Chris Cadden
Harry Clarke (loan expires)

Returning from loan

Dan Mackay
Dylan Tait
Steven Bradley (option to recall in summer)
Joao Balde
Jack Brydon


Being realistic what can we expect to see this summer with players leaving and coming in?

I would say Scott, Allan and Wright should all leave and it’s quite an easy decision but Maloney has played Wright a lot, is that purely for now as he has limited options or does he rate him? Wright also starts ahead of one of our big signings in Mueller, does Maloney think he’s better or is it a case of Mueller needing a break and pre season?

I can 100% see us signing Rocky and Jasper permanent.

As for the players in the final year I can see Porteous moving on so we get a fee and likely in his best interest. McGregor is one I can see doing a Gray and hanging up his boots to coach. Dabrowski is an odd one, done well for us when called upon but that might now give him suiters in our league that will play him regularly and not as back up. For me Cadden needs an extension and I’d also love to see Clarke sign permanently.


I’d not touch Rocky if we can get rid in summer. In my opinion simply not good enough. Especially if Porto is away.

[Alfred E Newman]

Yes, it's not summer yet. But we have done some transfer business already.

Confirmed in (0):
None

Confirmed new contracts (1):
Joe Newell (three years)

Confirmed out (0):
None

Confirmed out on loan (0):
None

Rumoured in:
Jak Alnwick (goalkeeper, St Mirren)

Rumoured out:
None

Rumoured new contracts:
None
Exciting times!

[Oscar T Grouch]

Yes, it's not summer yet. But we have done some transfer business already.

Confirmed in (0):
None

Confirmed new contracts (1):
Joe Newell (three years)

Confirmed out (0):
None

Confirmed out on loan (0):
None

Rumoured in:
Jak Alnwick (goalkeeper, St Mirren)

Rumoured out:
None

Rumoured new contracts:
None

The club have confirmed that Scott Burns made up the Jak Alnwick rumour.

"Hibs have categorically denied any interest in St Mirren goalkeeper Jak Alnwick"

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[Brightside]

We need to get Cadden on a 3 year deal pronto.

[CapitalGreen]

I’d not touch Rocky if we can get rid in summer. In my opinion simply not good enough. Especially if Porto is away.

Having just turned 22 do you not believe he has any potential to improve?

[JimBHibees]

I’d not touch Rocky if we can get rid in summer. In my opinion simply not good enough. Especially if Porto is away.

Think he has more than shown enough to suggest he had potential to get better. Would definitely keep

[Henderson2Del]

Having just turned 22 do you not believe he has any potential to improve?

We will need players ready and good enough to be starters and dependable, so personally it’s a no from me.

[OldEast]

Think he has more than shown enough to suggest he had potential to get better. Would definitely keep

We're told Maloney wanted him to come to Easter road. Can't see what he's doing to fit into Maloney's vision. Clarke will take his place and hopefully keep it.

[Alfred E Newman]

Having just turned 22 do you not believe he has any potential to improve?

We wont get any where if we build our hopes on players we hope will improve while they’re here.

[cameronw-hfc]

We will need players ready and good enough to be starters and dependable, so personally it’s a no from me.

We also need players capable of stepping up when we've got injuries as this season has proved, so to me, a 22yo that still looks a bit raw but has been decent so far, with next to no first team experience is the perfect option to have as a backup and let him develop without being relied on weekly.

[HoboHarry]

Summer it was sub zero last night :greengrin

No here it wisnae 😁

[SChibs]

Tin hat on here but I'd give Drey Wright another year or maybe 2. He's not going to be a starter every week but he's versatile and he's never as bad as folk actually make out. Look at how many positions he has played for us this season, CM, RM, LM, ST, LB. With our injury record he's a useful player to keep in the squad imo

[The Modfather]

Tin hat on here but I'd give Drey Wright another year or maybe 2. He's not going to be a starter every week but he's versatile and he's never as bad as folk actually make out. Look at how many positions he has played for us this season, CM, RM, LM, ST, LB. With our injury record he's a useful player to keep in the squad imo

He can cover lots of positions but his biggest contributions this season have been without the ball, chasing, harrying, working hard etc. I don’t think he offers much in an attacking sense and I think we’d be better off signing players for specific roles rather than a guy who can do a defensive job when needed but isn’t a defender.

[blackpoolhibs]

We wont get any where if we build our hopes on players we hope will improve while they’re here.

I know, that John McGinn was a right waste of a contract. :wink:

[Iggy Pope]

I know, that John McGinn was a right waste of a contract. :wink:

Martin Boyle for a pair.

[whiskyhibby]

We wont get any where if we build our hopes on players we hope will improve while they’re here.

Ficks shake………..:idiot::idiot:

[brog]

We wont get any where if we build our hopes on players we hope will improve while they’re here.

Well that's Melkersen, Rocky, Jasper, Clarke and Henderson written off then!

[JimBHibees]

We're told Maloney wanted him to come to Easter road. Can't see what he's doing to fit into Maloney's vision. Clarke will take his place and hopefully keep it.

Unless you are watching different teams he has been very good

[hibeg]

Unless you are watching different teams he has been very good

Well I must be watching different teams as well Jim. Very good ? Not in my opinion.
He has been ok on the deck but he has been woeful in the air.

[JimBHibees]

Well I must be watching different teams as well Jim. Very good ? Not in my opinion.
He has been ok on the deck but he has been woeful in the air.

Yep think he has been good very young player remember. Could be better but loads of potential imo

[andrew70]

Well I must be watching different teams as well Jim. Very good ? Not in my opinion.
He has been ok on the deck but he has been woeful in the air.

He had one poor game when Arbroath were shelling our defence almost incessantly. He will have never faced that sort of game plan before in his life. He gradually improved in that game and has been more than steady throughout.

[OldEast]

Unless you are watching different teams he has been very good

No I'm watching the same games as you. This is a summer transfer thread which surely must include our views on who will play a part in SM's vision of skillful players in attack and defense, comfortable on the ball, with good passing skills. For me Rocky hasn't shown he fits that profile. I agree we'll need squad players as a back up this is where he could show value. I hope Clarke and any new signings will be better options as regular starters.

[Dmas]

We're told Maloney wanted him to come to Easter road. Can't see what he's doing to fit into Maloney's vision. Clarke will take his place and hopefully keep it.

I think Clarke will play right wing back and cadden will be pushed forward, I would personally have a look at putting cads into CM his engine in there going box to box could be a threat sure he’s played midfield before can’t mind how it went though

[Alfred E Newman]

Well that's Melkersen, Rocky, Jasper, Clarke and Henderson written off then!

I didn't say that but there has to be a balance.

[JimBHibees]

No I'm watching the same games as you. This is a summer transfer thread which surely must include our views on who will play a part in SM's vision of skillful players in attack and defense, comfortable on the ball, with good passing skills. For me Rocky hasn't shown he fits that profile. I agree we'll need squad players as a back up this is where he could show value. I hope Clarke and any new signings will be better options as regular starters.

Yes you are allowed a view mine is re Rocky he has done well in the majority of games I have seen not perfect and he does need to improve in the air which can be coached but to me has shown more than enough potential to keep him on.

[OldEast]

I think Clarke will play right wing back and cadden will be pushed forward, I would personally have a look at putting cads into CM his engine in there going box to box could be a threat sure he’s played midfield before can’t mind how it went though

I've heard crazier ideas. Worth a shot I agree.

[OldEast]

Yes you are allowed a view mine is re Rocky he has done well in the majority of games I have seen not perfect and he does need to improve in the air which can be coached but to me has shown more than enough potential to keep him on.

I'm not sure we differ all that much. I don't see him as a regular starter next season. Do you?

[JimBHibees]

I'm not sure we differ all that much. I don't see him as a regular starter next season. Do you?

Think you are right. He could be more cover but think he has potential to be a starter but needs to improve. Will be looking to bring in centre back or two especially if Porto leaves

[OldEast]

Think you are right. He could be more cover but think he has potential to be a starter but needs to improve. Will be looking to bring in centre back or two especially if Porto leaves

Yes, a busy window hopefully. Let's hope he plays well today 👍🏻

[Paulie Walnuts]

Unless you are watching different teams he has been very good

I don’t mind Rocky but I can’t say I agree with that.

Imo he’s been alright but that’s about it. I’m not sure I’d have him starting if everyone was fit though, even in a three.

[J-C]

I think Clarke will play right wing back and cadden will be pushed forward, I would personally have a look at putting cads into CM his engine in there going box to box could be a threat sure he’s played midfield before can’t mind how it went though

I think Cadden used to play CM/RM at Motherwell, he's very versatile and that's why managers like him.

[where'stheslope]

Feel we should be going for Lionel Messi, because according to Anwar Sarwar he's only on £3,000 a week????
I'm sure we could afford him!!!!

[A Hi-Bee]

Dylan has been told by the Sheep that he can go in the summer, just saying like!!!!

:greengrin

[JohnM1875]

Dylan has been told by the Sheep that he can go in the summer, just saying like!!!!

:greengrin

I'd 100% be looking to sign him. 29 and a bit of quality and experience added to the team.

[Callum_62]

Dylan has been told by the Sheep that he can go in the summer, just saying like!!!!

:greengrinNotice he is having a fitness test before today's game

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[chippy]

I'd 100% be looking to sign him. 29 and a bit of quality and experience added to the team.

If we don’t win 2 of the next 3 matches then I’d be looking at bringing back Dylan and Lenny

[alibaba]

Notice he is having a fitness test before today's game

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Last thing we need is someone who spends half the season on the treatment table
Think he’s had opportunities to come back and went elsewhere


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[James70]

Doesn't matter who we sign when we have a manager who teaches the players to not try scoring.

[Callum_62]

Doesn't matter who we sign when we have a manager who teaches the players to not try scoring.I'm sure that's what he teaching

Raging at Harry Clarke at half time I heard

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[andrew70]

Doesn't matter who we sign when we have a manager who teaches the players to not try scoring.

😂😂🤡

It’s very evident what Maloney is trying to do. It will be nurtured and we are becoming more of a threat game by game.

[A Hi-Bee]

😂😂🤡

It’s very evident what Maloney is trying to do. It will be nurtured and we are becoming more of a threat game by game.


It will take time, and a lot of patience, perhaps he needs to up his wheatabix intake, so he can speed it up for some.
:greengrin

[Haymaker]

At least Griffiths contract with Falkirk is only until the end of the season, can get him in for free this summer and maybe we'll score some goals and win some games!

[JimBHibees]

Doesn't matter who we sign when we have a manager who teaches the players to not try scoring.

:greengrin

[at last 61]

We desperately need an attacking midfielder who is quick enough to get into the box, and need some height in the team, I believe we will move on about 7 or 8 players so should be a summer to look forward too

[Gaffer1875]

I'd 100% be looking to sign him. 29 and a bit of quality and experience added to the team.

One of my favourite players over the last 10 years to play for Hibs but he’s done. He’s not a regular in a poor Aberdeen team we need better.

Dylan’s stock was high when he left in 2018 but moving to Sunderland and Aberdeen were bad footballing decisions albeit decent on his bank account no doubt.


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[Tambo]

Central midfield is a must! Will Tait improve us? Will he even get a chance?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Central midfield is a must! Will Tait improve us? Will he even get a chance?

We can’t count on Tait. He can’t get into a Championship Kilmarnock team.

That’s not me writing him off in any way, but we need to be signing players to start and presuming he won’t quite be ready. If he is then it’s a bonus.

[Unseen work]

The sun linking Hearts with Alan Forrest.

Be interesting to see what happens with him and Charles Cook.

[brog]

We can’t count on Tait. He can’t get into a Championship Kilmarnock team.

That’s not me writing him off in any way, but we need to be signing players to start and presuming he won’t quite be ready. If he is then it’s a bonus.

He's injured.

[easty]

He's injured.

Aye, but he wasn’t playing when he was available either.

[SHODAN]

Would love to see us go for Charles-Cook though think he will have better options.

Jasper on a permanent deal is a must. Would take Bushiri too as backup.

[badabing67]

I think Clarke will play right wing back and cadden will be pushed forward, I would personally have a look at putting cads into CM his engine in there going box to box could be a threat sure he’s played midfield before can’t mind how it went though

I totally agree about Cadden playing in a CM role. I also think Doig could do a good job in there as well.

[badabing67]

Dylan has been told by the Sheep that he can go in the summer, just saying like!!!!

:greengrin

Well he can go to Killie McInnes likes to sign him

[Juniper Greens]

Unless you are watching different teams he has been very good

Been our worst player the past few weeks. Terrible timing and doesn't read the game well

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/andyfaeaberdeen/status/1511729604943355911?s=21&t=3SqhpWjP-RN0qX5f0zDQ-g

Not a rumour as such but interesting that everybody’s favourite journalist Scott Burns has been banned from Pittodrie for being a bit of a dick, although some would say he was just doing his job.

I’m not really one for conspiracy theories but it has become a bit of a pattern with him just to link any Aberdeen bound player with Hibs.

[Rondon]

Defo need to bring in a couple of creative midfielders and a couple more strikers. I think we get this right and we’ll be looking good.

Hopefully O’Connor etc also get brought through and get a proper shot. Always important to bring our own through

[green day]

https://twitter.com/andyfaeaberdeen/status/1511729604943355911?s=21&t=3SqhpWjP-RN0qX5f0zDQ-g

Not a rumour as such but interesting that everybody’s favourite journalist Scott Burns has been banned from Pittodrie for being a bit of a dick, although some would say he was just doing his job.

I’m not really one for conspiracy theories but it has become a bit of a pattern with him just to link any Aberdeen bound player with Hibs.

I am assuming that this is related to the Considine stuff as the timing seems too convenient otherwise.

Burns is a bit of a cock, as you say his USP is a bit obvious.

On rumours - Harry Milne of Cove Rangers in the summer.

[Lago]

I am assuming that this is related to the Considine stuff as the timing seems too convenient otherwise.

Burns is a bit of a cock, as you say his USP is a bit obvious.

On rumours - Harry Milne of Cove Rangers in the summer.
Who the hell is Harry Milne???

[flash]

Who the hell is Harry Milne???

A football player at Cove Rangers.

[itslegaltender]

A football player at Cove Rangers.

a left back...

[badabing67]

It's reported that Shaun Maloney has already been speaking to transfer targets. That must mean these players are out of contract at the end of the season I wonder who he has been talking to. Anyone got any ideas or know anything

[Bayern Bru]

I am assuming that this is related to the Considine stuff as the timing seems too convenient otherwise.

Burns is a bit of a cock, as you say his USP is a bit obvious.

On rumours - Harry Milne of Cove Rangers in the summer.

Ironic that Aberdeen are meant to be after him as well - or is that the joke? :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

It's reported that Shaun Maloney has already been speaking to transfer targets. That must mean these players are out of contract at the end of the season I wonder who he has been talking to. Anyone got any ideas or know anything

Watched his q and a this morning and got the impression from what he was saying that a few players were lined up. Might be wrong but dont think so.

[JimBHibees]

It's reported that Shaun Maloney has already been speaking to transfer targets. That must mean these players are out of contract at the end of the season I wonder who he has been talking to. Anyone got any ideas or know anything

Suppose possible we have agreed a transfer with club allowing us to talk to signed players.

[Lago]

A football player at Cove Rangers.
Never heard of him, not exactly a super star then??
Cove Rangers really going to raid one of the top leagues!!

[MWHIBBIES]

It's reported that Shaun Maloney has already been speaking to transfer targets. That must mean these players are out of contract at the end of the season I wonder who he has been talking to. Anyone got any ideas or know anything

Maybe not. We could've had bids accepted or could be speaking to contracted players via their agents.

[Unseen work]

Despite Alan Forrest and Charles Cook both having really good seasons I’m not sure I want us to go for them.

Maybe as options but not as a key player.

Cant help but think Charles Cook has just went on a purple patch like Connor Sammon done, he’s never had a season even remotely close to this.

A winger I have always been impressed with in our league is Joseph Hungbo though. Fast, strong and really good technically cutting in on his left foot.

I think our recruitment will go for a bit more exciting and different players than Forrest and Charles Cook though.

[Lago]

Despite Alan Forrest and Charles Cook both having really good seasons I’m not sure I want us to go for them.

Maybe as options but not as a key player.

Cant help but think Charles Cook has just went on a purple patch like Connor Sammon done, he’s never had a season even remotely close to this.

A winger I have always been impressed with in our league is Joseph Hungbo though. Fast, strong and really good technically cutting in on his left foot.

I think our recruitment will go for a bit more exciting and different players than Forrest and Charles Cook though.
Hope you're right.

[Smartie]

Despite Alan Forrest and Charles Cook both having really good seasons I’m not sure I want us to go for them.

Maybe as options but not as a key player.

Cant help but think Charles Cook has just went on a purple patch like Connor Sammon done, he’s never had a season even remotely close to this.

A winger I have always been impressed with in our league is Joseph Hungbo though. Fast, strong and really good technically cutting in on his left foot.

I think our recruitment will go for a bit more exciting and different players than Forrest and Charles Cook though.


I'm finding it hard to think of players I'd want us to sign because I don't really understand Maloney's 343.

It's all very well identifying wingers... but where do they fit into the way we play? We've got Cadden for the right, Doig and Mitchell for the left. Where does Mueller fit in, what about Jasper? Mueller may not have featured much but Maloney himself signed Jasper so you'd expect him to feature somewhere.

What are Maloney's plans for Clarke, given he chose to play him at LWB at the weekend, accommodating Doig at LCH and shifting Hanlon into the middle?

I don't really see why we should be identifying wingers, as they don't really fit into this way of playing.

As I see it we're needing several strikers, several number 10s and cover. The ones we have are either not up to it, young, injury prone or don't exist.

That's before we get onto replacing Porto and working out what to do with the middle of midfield.

[CapitalGreen]

I'm finding it hard to think of players I'd want us to sign because I don't really understand Maloney's 343.

It's all very well identifying wingers... but where do they fit into the way we play? We've got Cadden for the right, Doig and Mitchell for the left. Where does Mueller fit in, what about Jasper? Mueller may not have featured much but Maloney himself signed Jasper so you'd expect him to feature somewhere.

What are Maloney's plans for Clarke, given he chose to play him at LWB at the weekend, accommodating Doig at LCH and shifting Hanlon into the middle?

I don't really see why we should be identifying wingers, as they don't really fit into this way of playing.

As I see it we're needing several strikers, several number 10s and cover. The ones we have are either not up to it, young, injury prone or don't exist.

That's before we get onto replacing Porto and working out what to do with the middle of midfield.

I don’t understand why people fret about where all the players are going to fit into a starting XI, how often do we ever have a everybody available for selection that it would ever be an issue? Heaven forbid we might have a situation where some players have to compete for their place in the team as opposed to being pretty much guaranteed to start regardless of form.

[Iggy Pope]

I'm finding it hard to think of players I'd want us to sign because I don't really understand Maloney's 343.

It's all very well identifying wingers... but where do they fit into the way we play? We've got Cadden for the right, Doig and Mitchell for the left. Where does Mueller fit in, what about Jasper? Mueller may not have featured much but Maloney himself signed Jasper so you'd expect him to feature somewhere.

What are Maloney's plans for Clarke, given he chose to play him at LWB at the weekend, accommodating Doig at LCH and shifting Hanlon into the middle?

I don't really see why we should be identifying wingers, as they don't really fit into this way of playing.

As I see it we're needing several strikers, several number 10s and cover. The ones we have are either not up to it, young, injury prone or don't exist.

That's before we get onto replacing Porto and working out what to do with the middle of midfield.

Don’t suppose we, being us, will do any of it certainly not obtaining several No 10s and strikers. Greatest team I seen at Hibs had about three of them for both. What’s wrong with youth? Let him do his job,

[bingo70]

I don’t understand why people fret about where all the players are going to fit into a starting XI, how often do we ever have a everybody available for selection that it would ever be an issue? Heaven forbid we might have a situation where some players have to compete for their place in the team as opposed to being pretty much guaranteed to start regardless of form.

Totally agree.

Would also be nice to have a really strong bench at some point with players to bring on that could change a game.

[Unseen work]

I'm finding it hard to think of players I'd want us to sign because I don't really understand Maloney's 343.

It's all very well identifying wingers... but where do they fit into the way we play? We've got Cadden for the right, Doig and Mitchell for the left. Where does Mueller fit in, what about Jasper? Mueller may not have featured much but Maloney himself signed Jasper so you'd expect him to feature somewhere.

What are Maloney's plans for Clarke, given he chose to play him at LWB at the weekend, accommodating Doig at LCH and shifting Hanlon into the middle?

I don't really see why we should be identifying wingers, as they don't really fit into this way of playing.

As I see it we're needing several strikers, several number 10s and cover. The ones we have are either not up to it, young, injury prone or don't exist.

That's before we get onto replacing Porto and working out what to do with the middle of midfield.

One thing I found really interesting when Clarke moved to the right on Saturday was he went to right wing back and Cadden went to RCB, I thought it would have been the opposite.

Left hand side is interesting too as for me I’d have Hanlon left of the back 3 and Doig wingback however Maloney seems determined to keep Doig LCB which would make me think Mitchell plays wing back.

For me the 10’s will be Jasper and one new signing but imo it’s essential that the 10 is willing to run beyond the striker and stretch the game as that’s something we really lack.

I think Porteous will leave so could we see us with

…………………….Macey………

..…Cadden…..Hanlon…Doig….

Clarke…..Magennis…Newell…Mitchell…

………..???…………………….Jasper…….

……………………Melkersen……

For me I don’t like Cadden in a back 3 but it would suit Maloney wanting to play attacking football with him and Doig able to come out with the ball. Maybe Magennis could play one of the 10 positions as he showed earlier in the season he’s more than capable with JDH next to Newell? Although he has said he’s after a 6 so you imagine one will drop out.

For balance id much rather see


…………………….Macey………

..…Clarke…..Rocky/new signing…Hanlon

Cadden…..Magennis…Newell…Doig…

………..???…………………….Jasper…….

……………………Melkersen……

[HoboHarry]

I don’t understand why people fret about where all the players are going to fit into a starting XI, how often do we ever have a everybody available for selection that it would ever be an issue? Heaven forbid we might have a situation where some players have to compete for their place in the team as opposed to being pretty much guaranteed to start regardless of form.
Not to mention that selection will be based on who we are playing. Our best 11 against celtic wont necessarily be the same if we are playing St Mirren.

[J-C]

One thing I found really interesting when Clarke moved to the right on Saturday was he went to right wing back and Cadden went to RCB, I thought it would have been the opposite.

Left hand side is interesting too as for me I’d have Hanlon left of the back 3 and Doig wingback however Maloney seems determined to keep Doig LCB which would make me think Mitchell plays wing back.

For me the 10’s will be Jasper and one new signing but imo it’s essential that the 10 is willing to run beyond the striker and stretch the game as that’s something we really lack.

I think Porteous will leave so could we see us with

…………………….Macey………

..…Cadden…..Hanlon…Doig….

Clarke…..Magennis…Newell…Mitchell…

………..???…………………….Jasper…….

……………………Melkersen……

For me I don’t like Cadden in a back 3 but it would suit Maloney wanting to play attacking football with him and Doig able to come out with the ball. Maybe Magennis could play one of the 10 positions as he showed earlier in the season he’s more than capable with JDH next to Newell? Although he has said he’s after a 6 so you imagine one will drop out.

For balance id much rather see


…………………….Macey………

..…Clarke…..Rocky/new signing…Hanlon

Cadden…..Magennis…Newell…Doig…

………..???…………………….Jasper…….

……………………Melkersen……
Henderson will be the other 10.

[keep the faith]

The two players I previously felt would slot into our side were omeonga and Barrie Mckay.
One is out of our reach now, but I still think we should be looking at stephane. Likes to have the ball and move it on quickly which maloney likes but a bit more tenacity and forward thinking than many we currently have in midfield.

[Scooter]

One thing I found really interesting when Clarke moved to the right on Saturday was he went to right wing back and Cadden went to RCB, I thought it would have been the opposite.

Left hand side is interesting too as for me I’d have Hanlon left of the back 3 and Doig wingback however Maloney seems determined to keep Doig LCB which would make me think Mitchell plays wing back.

For me the 10’s will be Jasper and one new signing but imo it’s essential that the 10 is willing to run beyond the striker and stretch the game as that’s something we really lack.

I think Porteous will leave so could we see us with

…………………….Macey………

..…Cadden…..Hanlon…Doig….

Clarke…..Magennis…Newell…Mitchell…

………..???…………………….Jasper…….

……………………Melkersen……

For me I don’t like Cadden in a back 3 but it would suit Maloney wanting to play attacking football with him and Doig able to come out with the ball. Maybe Magennis could play one of the 10 positions as he showed earlier in the season he’s more than capable with JDH next to Newell? Although he has said he’s after a 6 so you imagine one will drop out.

For balance id much rather see


…………………….Macey………

..…Clarke…..Rocky/new signing…Hanlon

Cadden…..Magennis…Newell…Doig…

………..???…………………….Jasper…….

……………………Melkersen……
I'd have Mueller in as well I think he's got great potential

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-news-shaun-maloney-has-already-met-prospective-signings-as-he-works-on-shaping-202223-squad-3643805

Glad to see he shares the majority of fans opinion about where we need to strengthen and about us being more than keeping possession.

Wonder who the players he’s already met with are.

[Unseen work]

I'd have Mueller in as well I think he's got great potential

Against cove I thought he looked very promising but he’s not doing much since then imo, the odd flash here or there maybe but I want far more from him and have been a little bit dissapointed truth be told.

That said I’m willing to put that down to him playing a full MLS season then coming straight here and adapting to a new country and league.

I think (hope) we see a different animal after a good rest and pre season.

[IberianHibernian]

Never heard of him, not exactly a super star then??
Cove Rangers really going to raid one of the top leagues!!Harry Milne scored twice for Cove at falkirk today .

[Unseen work]

Rocky
McGregor
Porteous - Sold for fee
Jasper - Hope we keep
Scott
Allan
Wright
Doidge?

All potentially/likely to be gone in the summer - lots of room for manoeuvre for whoever is in charge

[JamesHFC]

We need some more experienced players. The youngsters we have are nowhere near the golden generation under Mowbray.

We let Boyle and Murphy go to replace them with Jasper. Should have brought in someone like Jordan Jones too imo.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Rocky
McGregor
Porteous - Sold for fee
Jasper - Hope we keep
Scott
Allan
Wright
Doidge?

All potentially/likely to be gone in the summer - lots of room for manoeuvre for whoever is in charge

We shouldn't be letting anyone go until we have someone in charge who has a clue what they're doing.

[IberianHibernian]

We shouldn't be letting anyone go until we have someone in charge who has a clue what they're doing.I would say we shouldn`t change manager until he has a chance to see what players he`ll have available next season .

[Iain G]

We shouldn't be letting anyone go until we have someone in charge who has a clue what they're doing.

Yeah I agree, bring Rod Petrie back 😁

[Eyrie]

I would say we shouldn`t change manager until he has a chance to see what players he`ll have available next season .

I'd be concerned about giving the manager who signed Bushieri and Henderson, and who thinks playing Scott is a good move, the substantial sum of money required to improve the quad, let alone sign the players needed for how Maloney wants us to play as it's likely that his replacement will need different players.

Until yesterday I was unconvinced by Maoney but prepared to give him the first 10-12 league games of next season. A change could then be made in October as his replacement would have the enforced World Cup break to work with the players.

After yesterday, Maloney either wins next week or has to go in the summer. You don't reinforce failure.

[#2 Double Tap]

Yeah I agree, bring Rod Petrie back 😁

we are experiencing the exact same as we went through with petrie, seems like non football people making football decisions. Petrie made so many mistakes, im really hoping we dont have to go through all the same ones again.

[HibbyAndy]

I'd be concerned about giving the manager who signed Bushieri and Henderson, and who thinks playing Scott is a good move, the substantial sum of money required to improve the quad, let alone sign the players needed for how Maloney wants us to play as it's likely that his replacement will need different players.

Until yesterday I was unconvinced by Maoney but prepared to give him the first 10-12 league games of next season. A change could then be made in October as his replacement would have the enforced World Cup break to work with the players.

After yesterday, Maloney either wins next week or has to go in the summer. You don't reinforce failure.


How long is this break ?

[500miles]

We're lacking experience up top, getting dominated. Wonder if Fletch could still do it up here?

[SHODAN]

I'd be concerned about giving the manager who signed Bushieri and Henderson, and who thinks playing Scott is a good move, the substantial sum of money required to improve the quad, let alone sign the players needed for how Maloney wants us to play as it's likely that his replacement will need different players.

Gordon will be thinking the same thing. I don't doubt that Maloney is on notice now.

[LewysGot2]

Any money gained from Boyle going is now just the cushion that off sets the bottom 6 finish and the loss of prize money, gate receipts from a derby and a Weege team visit and the loss of walk up revenue.

[Since452]

We're lacking experience up top, getting dominated. Wonder if Fletch could still do it up here?

Fletcher would be an outstanding signing and exactly what we need, even at 35. We badly lack experience in the team. I wish David Gray was still playing for us.

[JamesHFC]

Any money gained from Boyle going is now just the cushion that off sets the bottom 6 finish and the loss of prize money, gate receipts from a derby and a Weege team visit and the loss of walk up revenue.

If we beat Dundee United last week we would be 4th right now. Draws to Dundee & St Johnstone equally ridiculous, 4th was there for the taking and we blew it.

[Rick Rude]

Any money gained from Boyle going is now just the cushion that off sets the bottom 6 finish and the loss of prize money, gate receipts from a derby and a Weege team visit and the loss of walk up revenue.

The difference between bottom and 3rd in the league is only about £900k so it's really not.

[LewysGot2]

The difference between bottom and 3rd in the league is only about £900k so it's really not.

And the loss in gate money? And tv money - as the pay out is based on how well you do. We’ve pissed Boyles money up the wall

[Mikey_1875]

I’m dreading what the “transfer committee” will come up with this summer.

[hibee-boys]

Maloney’s talk of him identifying summer targets already and having a lot of work to do in the summer is just deflection in my eyes. He’ll have ran out of excuses come September/October time. He’s had more than enough time on the training pitch and a January transfer window to build a team good enough to secure a top 6 position and he’s failed miserably.

[Rick Rude]

And the loss in gate money? And tv money - as the pay out is based on how well you do. We’ve pissed Boyles money up the wall

Pretty sure the prize money is the TV money. But yeah a few 100k from a game against the Huns and the other Huns. In all likelihood we would have finished 5th or 6th at best. If we finish 7th (that's a big if) then prize money loss is a few hundred k too. Getting to the final would probably make that up.

[Alfred E Newman]

Yeah I agree, bring Rod Petrie back 😁

I’d take the old school back in a flash. Some mistakes were made but they still ran the club 100 times better than this faceless bunch.

[alibaba]

Get beat next week and sm has to go we have been absolutely dreadful to watch under him he has to take responsibility on who he picks and how he sets up the team
If we do win and I hope we do I’d be happy to give him some more time


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[Eyrie]

How long is this break ?

Think it's four weeks, and there's no January break as a result.

[Billy Whizz]

Think it's four weeks, and there's no January break as a result.

Around 5 weeks
Last game is on 12/13 November and next game is on 17/18 December

[Brightside]

The difference between bottom and 3rd in the league is only about £900k so it's really not.

Bottom 6 will have a huge impact on transfer funds. Also sacking Maloney will batter that too. There are no positives right now.

[18Craig75]

Alan Nixon on Twitter suggesting we’re after someone from Swindon. Behind a paywall on Patreon so no idea who. Only references their “cult hero”.

[Hibernian Verse]

Alan Nixon on Twitter suggesting we’re after someone from Swindon. Behind a paywall on Patreon so no idea who. Only references their “cult hero”.

It'll be Harry McKirdy and he will be off to the Championship so probably wasting our time. 17 league goals this season so far.

[bigwheel]

Alan Nixon on Twitter suggesting we’re after someone from Swindon. Behind a paywall on Patreon so no idea who. Only references their “cult hero”.

Let me guess….20 year old developing talent …..???

[The Modfather]

Yeah I agree, bring Rod Petrie back 😁

We should check he’s still alive first. 3 years into his SFA role and we’re still waiting on any inclination of what his plan is for reform (quiet at the back). Once he’s achieved that he can come back and maybe now 10 years on put some details to his mythical “5 year plan”.

[andrew70]

It'll be Harry McKirdy and he will be off to the Championship so probably wasting our time. 17 league goals this season so far.

The ex Hearts player?

[Billy Whizz]

The ex Hearts player?

No he plays or did at Junior level
Think he was Sean McKirdy

[Gmack7]

The ex Hearts player?

I think the ex hearts player dropped out of senior football so I hope not, was a superb prospect at 16 though

[Since452]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

[bigwheel]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

There’s nothing new in that though - happens every season . Players know they are only in the team, until the club find someone better or they get a move …it’s the nature of the industry …

[andrew70]

No he plays or did at Junior level
Think he was Sean McKirdy

Of course, thanks. Had me worried there for a second. Never seen such a poor player that had ‘made it’ at youth level.

Will look into Harry.

[MrRobot]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

There is a summer transfer window coming up? the players will be absolutely aware that the club are recruiting

[Hibernian Verse]

There is a summer transfer window coming up? the players will be absolutely aware that the club are recruiting

And some might already have moves lined up themselves.

[JimBHibees]

And some might already have moves lined up themselves.

Absolutely will

[Rick Rude]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

If I was a player with any ambition I'd be more worried if there wasn't moves to bring more players in.

Personally just hope that for the first time in living memory we can do our business early and have a team in place for the start of the season. Not running about 3 or 4 games in still trying to plug gaps.

[HendoDelivered]

If I was a player with any ambition I'd be more worried if there wasn't moves to bring more players in.

Personally just hope that for the first time in living memory we can do our business early and have a team in place for the start of the season. Not running about 3 or 4 games in still trying to plug gaps.

Didnt we business early under Hecky?

[Spudster]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

I'm pretty sure Butcher tried this tactic as motivation :rolleyes:

[J-C]

I'm pretty sure Butcher tried this tactic as motivation :rolleyes:

I think Butcher lined them up and told them they'd all be off in the summer. I'd expect Maloney would've sat down individually and discussed their futures professionally.

[Tambo]

It'll be Harry McKirdy and he will be off to the Championship so probably wasting our time. 17 league goals this season so far.

Hibernian are interested in signing Swindon Town striker Harry McKirdy in the summer, journalist Alan Nixon has reported via Patreon.




McKirdy joined Swindon last summer following his release by Port Vale, and has made a big impact during his time at The County Ground.

The 25-year-old has scored 19 goals and provided nine assists in 38 appearances in all competitions for the Robins since the start of the campaign, helping them to 11th place in the League Two standings, four points adrift of the play-offs

[Hibernian Verse]

Hibernian are interested in signing Swindon Town striker Harry McKirdy in the summer, journalist Alan Nixon has reported via Patreon.




McKirdy joined Swindon last summer following his release by Port Vale, and has made a big impact during his time at The County Ground.

The 25-year-old has scored 19 goals and provided nine assists in 38 appearances in all competitions for the Robins since the start of the campaign, helping them to 11th place in the League Two standings, four points adrift of the play-offs

Does this count as my first ever transfer coup? :greengrin

[Gmack7]

Does this count as my first ever transfer coup? :greengrin

Only if he signs
Only if he's good
Only if he destroys hertz

[wookie70]

I think Butcher lined them up and told them they'd all be off in the summer. I'd expect Maloney would've sat down individually and discussed their futures professionally. I suspect either approach would lead to a similar result

[MrSmith]

Swindon link: https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20062492.hibernian-interested-signing-swindon-town-striker-harry-mckirdy/

[SHODAN]

McKirdy looks good on paper.

[Heisenberg]

Swindon link: https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20062492.hibernian-interested-signing-swindon-town-striker-harry-mckirdy/

Should fit in nicely here :greengrin

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20018814.harry-mckirdy-miss-weeks-league-two-season-injury/

[Oscar T Grouch]

JET Released by Aberdeen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61084756

[Unseen work]

No idea of his ability but he has plenty of character and personality about him!

His Instagram captions are a good read :greengrin

I hope we get him because you just know he’d score against hearts and rangers.

[Paulie Walnuts]

JET Released by Aberdeen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61084756

Terrible player

[Steve88]

Wish we would take a leaf out of Aberdeen's book and get rid of the absolute guff we have..

[truehibernian]

Experience and character are what’s missing from this squad of players. Only 5 years ago we had players like Cummings, SJM, Bartley, Keatings, Holt, Fontaine, McGeouch, Henderson, Fyvie, all players who got the club, had personality, a point to prove, and actually relished a derby and wanted it before a ball was kicked.

When we were drawn against Hearts, these players had the ‘bring it on’ battle cry, whereas now, I just get the impression they don’t have the same inner confidence and minerals to take games to them or any of the top sides.

It’s a very ‘nice’ squad of players who you don’t get the impression have the inner strength to play through a knock, battle hard, trust in their ability. The lack of leadership through the spine of the side is alarming,

That’s what needs addressed in summer, getting in and identifying players who have a combination of getting their career back on a positive track, proven experience in the battle, and introducing youthful zest and creativity around that.

It’s very reminiscent of when we lost the bulk of the golden generation, Derek, Scott, Garry, etc., and went for the likes of Kerr, Gatheussi, Rankin, O’Brien, Curier, and O’Hanlon.

The recruitment has only ever been consistently good during Stubbs reign this decade, (arguably some of Lennon’s reign) and even before that, as above, we’ve failed to build on success and re-investing funds properly,

Ron and team have taken their eyes off the most important thing, the team, and instead had too much emphasis on off field activities and commerce. Yes, both are linked, but the commercial side should be commensurate to what’s on the pitch, not to the detriment of it.

The second priority for Ron is rebuilding the disconnect with supporters and that’s going to take some charm offensive to get fans back on side. His decision making has been really poor this year, and his blueprint for success that he laid out re-drawn and contain more achievable goals and targets.

[BoomtownHibees]

Wish we would take a leaf out of Aberdeen's book and get rid of the absolute guff we have..

I’m sure we will in time. Just not 4 days before the biggest game of our season when we are already lacking in numbers

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wish we would take a leaf out of Aberdeen's book and get rid of the absolute guff we have..

Alternatively, Aberdeen have taken a leaf out of ours. We binned Nathan Wood quick enough and during the middle of the season out with a transfer window.

[Latapy'sVolley]

Not a player transfer, but I see we've brought in Livi's club secretary as "Head of Football Operations" from the summer.

[GibbytheHibby2]

Think he has more than shown enough to suggest he had potential to get better. Would definitely keep
I would too. Lots of players take a season to settle in. I remember Paul Elliott (celtic) was a laughing stock in his first season. The following season he was the best player on the league.

[JamesHFC]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

I don’t see anything wrong with it. Our best players will want to play with better players.

[1620]

Should fit in nicely here :greengrin

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20018814.harry-mckirdy-miss-weeks-league-two-season-injury/

At 5ft 9 ins sounds like competition for Melkersen and Nesbit which is good. I would also like to see competition for Doidge with a 6ft plus physical goal scorer.

[itslegaltender]

Should fit in nicely here :greengrin

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20018814.harry-mckirdy-miss-weeks-league-two-season-injury/

Ideal for Hibs

From Wiki “ He has been criticised for his temperament, particularly in regards to his reactions to jeering by fans both on the pitch and on social media.”

[Billy Whizz]

At 5ft 9 ins sounds like competition for Melkersen and Nesbit which is good. I would also like to see competition for Doidge with a 6ft plus physical goal scorer.

Hasn’t played that much for a 25 year old

[GreenArmy1875]

Graeme Shinnie. Anyone know how he is doing at Wigan? See he isn't starting tonight

[Unseen work]

Just reading up on McKirdy, quite an odd career to date.

25 years old, not played a huge amount of games and was released last season then went on trial to Swindon where he has since scored 18 goals this season and got 8 assists. Never played higher than league 2 and his goal scoring hasn’t been overly impressive elsewhere.

I was expecting a flair player to play one of the positions behind the striker (unsure if it’s because he’s trying to look like Grealish), but going by his goals this season a lot seem to be tap ins and him being alert in the box.

Does show a bit of pace in the second link however.

https://youtu.be/taWmlkMHfvM

https://youtu.be/GNk3QzrHxdI

We’ve done well scouting league 2 of late with the signings of Doidge and Jasper so I’d be willing to trust the recruitment team.

Personally if we were signing a ‘9’ to play the lone striker role I’d prefer someone a lot more physical with pace, similar to Simms at Hearts. Unless McKirdy would play behind in one of the attacking positions but like I say he doesn’t look like that player based on the clips.

I wonder how he compared to a Charles Cook and Alan Forrest who have similarly had the best seasons of their career. Both of them are also out of contract where as we would need a fee for McKirdy.

[HendoDelivered]

Pretty sure he scored against City in the cup a couple months back.

[Stuart93]

Key target? He’ll sign for hearts or Aberdeen then

[SMAXXA]

This whole thing about Maloney already having met targets worries me a bit. Basically says to the players playing now that they are only in the side temporarily and could be gone in the summer. Dangerous game to play. Rather he just kept quiet until the season was over

What a strange take on it

[MWHIBBIES]

Key target? He’ll sign for hearts or Aberdeen then

Chronic patter

[McGruber]

McKirdy looks small and lightweight, 5ft 9 and weighs 10 stone. Looks like you wouldn't see him from the side.

I would rather our next striker signing target looked more like Martin Ford, bald head tattoos en all.

Firmly tounge in cheek of course- the guys size doesn't mean anything if he is a good player of course, more a Riordan than a Mixu will do me.

Still though, whilst tounge in cheek.. we are crying out for some physical presence and power up top.

* if we are even interested in the boy

[Since452]

What a strange take on it

I don't know whats strange about it. Coming out publicly before a massive derby double header that will define our season and saying you've met or are meeting players for next season doesn't send out a very good message to the guys in the team.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't know whats strange about it. Coming out publicly before a massive derby double header that will define our season and saying you've met or are meeting players for next season doesn't send out a very good message to the guys in the team.

It doesn’t send any sort of message imo.

I’d imagine 99% of teams will sign players in the summer. I’d imagine the majority of those teams have started speaking to players and agents. Football players will know this and I’m not sure they’ll be horrified to hear it from Maloney.

[superfurryhibby]

I don't know whats strange about it. Coming out publicly before a massive derby double header that will define our season and saying you've met or are meeting players for next season doesn't send out a very good message to the guys in the team.

There’s a subtle difference between saying you are planning for next season and singling out individual players and telling them they aren’t in the management’s plans.

I think most professional football players can understand the difference, even if a simple fan doesn’t.

[Hibernian Verse]

There’s a subtle difference between saying you are planning for next season and singling out individual players and telling them they aren’t in the management’s plans.

I think most professional footballer players understand the difference, even if a fan doesn’t.

If Maloney had red sauce instead of brown sauce on a lorne roll, the same people would be going tonto over why he should've had brown.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If Maloney had red sauce instead of brown sauce on a lorne roll, the same people would be going tonto over why he should've had brown.

:agree:

Criticising the manager for publicly acknowledging we’re planning for next season when there’s only 5 games to go of this season is pathetic.

We signed Mueller 6 months in advance of him coming. That was planning in advance. I wonder if there was the same concern about how the players currently at the club were going to be feeling about that when Jack Ross was in charge. I certainly don’t remember anyone questioning whether Kevin Nisbet, Martin Boyle or Christian Doidge would be ready to down tools because we were going to sign new players in the future :rolleyes:

[bigwheel]

I don't know whats strange about it. Coming out publicly before a massive derby double header that will define our season and saying you've met or are meeting players for next season doesn't send out a very good message to the guys in the team.

You’re way off here ..footballers know what the industry is like . They will be exploring what’s next for them, in the same way as Maloney is exploring what’s next for his team …it’s a nothing story ….completely business as usual

[Heisenberg]

I don't know whats strange about it. Coming out publicly before a massive derby double header that will define our season and saying you've met or are meeting players for next season doesn't send out a very good message to the guys in the team.

This seems like just going for the manager for the sake of it. What he said isn’t at all controversial and won’t be a surprise to any player at the club.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't know whats strange about it. Coming out publicly before a massive derby double header that will define our season and saying you've met or are meeting players for next season doesn't send out a very good message to the guys in the team.

Half the players will probably be talking to various folk about what they’re doing next season as well.

There’s absolutely nothing in this, criticising for the sake of criticising.

[hibeesjoe]

Not sure if posted anywhere but seen this

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20062492.hibernian-interested-signing-swindon-town-striker-harry-mckirdy/

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[JimBHibees]

If Maloney had red sauce instead of brown sauce on a lorne roll, the same people would be going tonto over why he should've had brown.

I think red sauce is a sacking offence personally :greengrin

[Smartie]

I think red sauce is a sacking offence personally :greengrin

Especially if he’s putting it on his cereal.

[JimBHibees]

Half the players will probably be talking to various folk about what they’re doing next season as well.

There’s absolutely nothing in this, criticising for the sake of criticising.

Agree if they cant as a professional get yourself up for possibly winning the cup irrespective of where you are playing next season you are likely in the wrong job

[JimBHibees]

Especially if he’s putting it on his cereal.

Yuk

[eastmainsmsh]

Wonder if Mckirdy will sign decent return 18 in 28 but is he any better than youngsters like O Connor and Laidlaw rather see them getting a run

[bigwheel]

Wonder if Mckirdy will sign decent return 18 in 28 but is he any better than youngsters like O Connor and Laidlaw rather see them getting a run

He’s 25. So different staggered of career

[MrRobot]

This seems like just going for the manager for the sake of it. What he said isn’t at all controversial and won’t be a surprise to any player at the club.

:agree:

people seem to be finding any reason to take a pop at maloney. he has said absolutely nothing wrong here, im glad to hear we are being proactive in trying to secure targets early

[JohnMcM]

If Maloney had red sauce instead of brown sauce on a lorne roll, the same people would be going tonto over why he should've had brown.

,,,,,,,,,, he would be a bl**dy heathen:greengrin

[where'stheslope]

Our biggest problem now is asking players to sign up for a season without European football.
This takes the players we want down a level from what we may want?
So for this, it makes this weekends game all the more important!!!

[B.H.F.C]

Our biggest problem now is asking players to sign up for a season without European football.
This takes the players we want down a level from what we may want?
So for this, it makes this weekends game all the more important!!!

Can’t see it being that big an issue. We’re usually knocked out by the time we get the players in.

[J-C]

This seems like just going for the manager for the sake of it. What he said isn’t at all controversial and won’t be a surprise to any player at the club.

We have a few players at the end of their contracts, there will also be others not in his plans. What does he do wait until the start of pre season before telling them? Players aren't stupid and will know the score, they'll have their agents on the case already.

[Heisenberg]

Our biggest problem now is asking players to sign up for a season without European football.
This takes the players we want down a level from what we may want?
So for this, it makes this weekends game all the more important!!!

We were in Europe at the start of this season and ended up with JDH, Nathan Wood and James Scott…

[where'stheslope]

We were in Europe at the start of this season and ended up with JDH, Nathan Wood and James Scott…
So ask yourself the question?
Who will we get without it?????

[Smartie]

So ask yourself the question?
Who will we get without it?????

I'd be surprised if European football was that much of a carrot for players joining us, given it usually consists of us pissing about in June/ July with half a team and being knocked out long before we've assembled our squad for the season.

We did our best job of attracting good players when we were in the Championship, bizarrely.

[bingo70]

So ask yourself the question?
Who will we get without it?????

Hearts managed to sign good players this year without the lure of European football.

I don’t think the attraction of playing a couple of games in Europe will make much of a difference to attracting players.

[Heisenberg]

So ask yourself the question?
Who will we get without it?????

I’m not sure it can get any worse.

[B.H.F.C]

Hearts managed to sign good players this year without the lure of European football.

I don’t think the attraction of playing a couple of games in Europe will make much of a difference to attracting players.

When we win the cup and guarantee group stage, European football it might make a bit of a difference. And the guaranteed £3m will help.

But generally, most years, I agree the prospect of playing a couple of qualifiers won’t make much difference.

[ahibby]

Not sure if posted anywhere but seen this

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20062492.hibernian-interested-signing-swindon-town-striker-harry-mckirdy/

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Calf injuries, presumably a tear, are difficult to heal and tend to recurr, would be a known risk and a fee to boot. I would say no

[hibeesjoe]

Calf injuries, presumably a tear, are difficult to heal and tend to recurr, would be a known risk and a fee to boot. I would say noSounds like the ideal Hibs signing if he's carrying injuries

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[Scorrie]

If Maloney had red sauce instead of brown sauce on a lorne roll, the same people would be going tonto over why he should've had brown.

The last straw for me. Maloney oot. It has to be broon sauce

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Red Sauce? Tomato sauce surely

[Scotty Leither]

I would hope if John McGinn moves in the summer, then Hibs' transfer targets will change up a notch or two.

[Is It On....]

Not a player transfer, but I see we've brought in Livi's club secretary as "Head of Football Operations" from the summer.

A key appointment is a Head of Player Recruitment to replace Ian Gordon. The owners son, with little or no experience, should NOT be the head such an important area at the club.

[Mr. Wonderful]

A key appointment is a Head of Player Recruitment to replace Ian Gordon. The owners son, with little or no experience, should NOT be the head such an important area at the club.

So you keep telling us

[PatHead]

So you keep telling us

He does have a point.

[Ronniekirk]

He does have a point.

And the summer window is now crucial


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[Eyrie]

And the summer window is now crucial


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Which is why I'm very concerned that Gordon will pony up only for Maloney to waste it.

The money needs to be spent by a decent manager.

[bingo70]

Which is why I'm very concerned that Gordon will pony up only for Maloney to waste it.

The money needs to be spent by a decent manager.

Maybe Maloney will be when he’s got a decent squad?

I’m not saying that to be a dick but as long as he’s our manager, the club will need to back him accordingly.

January transfer window was miles from being good enough but playing devils advocate it is a notoriously difficult window to make wholesale changes to the squad.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Which is why I'm very concerned that Gordon will pony up only for Maloney to waste it.

The money needs to be spent by a decent manager.

We have a recruitment team. Maloney won’t be allowed to just go ahead and waste it off his own back.

[MWHIBBIES]

Which is why I'm very concerned that Gordon will pony up only for Maloney to waste it.

The money needs to be spent by a decent manager.

To be fair, getting results doesnt mean he would spent money well, and vise versa.

Lennon got good results and largely signed awful players.

[bigwheel]

And the summer window is now crucial


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As was the January one. And they failed miserably

[blackpoolhibs]

So ask yourself the question?
Who will we get without it?????

2 or 3 games in Europe or another 1k a week in your wages, i know what most players would take.

[easty]

2 or 3 games in Europe or another 1k a week in your wages, i know what most players would take.

At our level, an extra £1k a month is probably enough.

[Lago]

Red Sauce? Tomato sauce surely
Ketchup 🍅

[Inconsequential]

Red Sauce? Tomato sauce surely Ketchup! Great minds think alike Lago!

[Paulie Walnuts]

At our level, an extra £1k a month is probably enough.

:agree:

£1k a month pays for a brand new Range Rover or whatever other daft crap footballers would want.

No doubt in my mind they’d rather have that than 2 games against a Danish side or the like getting a chasing.

[Dr What If?]

A key appointment is a Head of Player Recruitment to replace Ian Gordon. The owners son, with little or no experience, should NOT be the head such an important area at the club.

My son has the ability to nag me into buying anything he wants, if Ian wants half the German squad we could be on a winner :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

As was the January one. And they failed miserably

A few years back we had managed to do well in winter windows but agree we solved nothing Clarke is the only player brought in in last window who looks first team ready and can hold down a place and be consistent but even he could move on if parent club decide to sell him
My gut tells me something isn’t right and results and performances just continue to reinforce that
I just hope we don’t end up in a bigger mess into new season as the cost of fixing it all will be beyond us and boyles transfer money might be wasted



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[Smartie]

I actually thought we did pretty well in January. A few of the bigger signings have been injured and not able to contribute as much as we'd have liked, but I've been quite happy with the quality shown by most of the players signed in the last window.

They just don't fit into this 343 thing that Maloney likes to play. Or they're duplicates for positions where we were already strong, meaning we accommodate other players in positions where they are weaker (Doig at LCB, Clarke everywhere, Jasper and Mueller as number 10s).

We're still weak in the striker department but - dare I say it - I think Jack Ross would have done quite well with the players brought in in January.

He'd surely have been prioritising strikers though, as that's where we've been most deficient for the longest. And I think Hibs will continue to be some shade of 5hite until we find someone who can make a half decent fist of playing up front on their own, almost irrespective of what we have going on elsewhere in the team.

[bigwheel]

I actually thought we did pretty well in January. A few of the bigger signings have been injured and not able to contribute as much as we'd have liked, but I've been quite happy with the quality shown by most of the players signed in the last window.

They just don't fit into this 343 thing that Maloney likes to play. Or they're duplicates for positions where we were already strong, meaning we accommodate other players in positions where they are weaker (Doig at LCB, Clarke everywhere, Jasper and Mueller as number 10s).

We're still weak in the striker department but - dare I say it - I think Jack Ross would have done quite well with the players brought in in January.

He'd surely have been prioritising strikers though, as that's where we've been most deficient for the longest. And I think Hibs will continue to be some shade of 5hite until we find someone who can make a half decent fist of playing up front on their own, almost irrespective of what we have going on elsewhere in the team.

Surprised at that view…only Clarke was a quality first team addition. Even Mitchell and Jasper are raw, not proven . No other signing looks like it would have improved out first eleven. The rest are developing players at best….we should have had a decent CH and an experienced goal scorer …major mistakes, particularly when you take into account how bad our summer window was.


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[Eyrie]

Maybe Maloney will be when he’s got a decent squad?

I’m not saying that to be a dick but as long as he’s our manager, the club will need to back him accordingly.

January transfer window was miles from being good enough but playing devils advocate it is a notoriously difficult window to make wholesale changes to the squad.

I'd question whether Maloney is a decent manager if he can only do it under the very specific circumstances of having exactly the players he needs to make his only system work. A decent manager does a decent job with what he has, not what he needs.

But I'd agree that if the decision is made to keep Maloney then he needs to be properly backed rather than left to fail due to a lack of support.

[Jdawg]

I'd question whether Maloney is a decent manager if he can only do it under the very specific circumstances of having exactly the players he needs to make his only system work. A decent manager does a decent job with what he has, not what he needs.

But I'd agree that if the decision is made to keep Maloney then he needs to be properly backed rather than left to fail due to a lack of support.

Spot on. Won’t get the funds to buy a replica of the Belgium squad. Delusional. Get rid.

[HoboHarry]

I'd question whether Maloney is a decent manager if he can only do it under the very specific circumstances of having exactly the players he needs to make his only system work. A decent manager does a decent job with what he has, not what he needs.

But I'd agree that if the decision is made to keep Maloney then he needs to be properly backed rather than left to fail due to a lack of support.
Whit? A decent manager makes the best of what he has inherited until he builds a team that suits his style. You think Pep or Klopp would turn St Mirren into trophy winners in three months?

[AugustaHibs]

Whit? A decent manager makes the best of what he has inherited until he builds a team that suits his style. You think Pep or Klopp would turn St Mirren into trophy winners in three months?

No, that’s why he said a ‘decent’ job.

Maloney is a poor manager doing an even worse job.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'd question whether Maloney is a decent manager if he can only do it under the very specific circumstances of having exactly the players he needs to make his only system work. A decent manager does a decent job with what he has, not what he needs.

But I'd agree that if the decision is made to keep Maloney then he needs to be properly backed rather than left to fail due to a lack of support.

Nobody mentioned him having the exact squad he needs though. Only a decent one.

At this point in time, this squad isn’t anywhere near being decent imo and there’s very little of that is down to Maloney. He’s inherited the majority of the duds.

[Hibernian Verse]

No, that’s why he said a ‘decent’ job.

Maloney is a poor manager doing an even worse job.

What if this is the best anyone could get out the squad?

Reality is we will never know, and that's just one reason why he should get the summer to mould his side. No one is saying he's doing a good job but it would be madness to sack him just now.

[ahibby]

What if this is the best anyone could get out the squad?

Reality is we will never know, and that's just one reason why he should get the summer to mould his side. No one is saying he's doing a good job but it would be madness to sack him just now.

He must be given a summer transfer window.

[500miles]

Surprised at that view…only Clarke was a quality first team addition. Even Mitchell and Jasper are raw, not proven . No other signing looks like it would have improved out first eleven. The rest are developing players at best….we should have had a decent CH and an experienced goal scorer …major mistakes, particularly when you take into account how bad our summer window was.


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I mean Mitchell joined scored twice and done well at Hearts. He's known to be at least capable at this level.

[bigwheel]

I mean Mitchell joined scored twice and done well at Hearts. He's known to be at least capable at this level.

Fair points …still not played that much at our level , and looks a bit raw to me despite his early goals ..would expect him to contribute though ..so fair enough

[Ronniekirk]

Fair points …still not played that much at our level , and looks a bit raw to me despite his early goals ..would expect him to contribute though ..so fair enough

Except he is injury prone and didn’t tske him long to be out with an injury sir a sustained period
He was struggling to last a full game and this injury just sets him back re fitness
If this pattern continues it just disrupts the team
But if he can stay fit and get match fit he has a role to play as seemed able to ghost in unmarked at the back post so has goals in him


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[Paulie Walnuts]

What if this is the best anyone could get out the squad?

Reality is we will never know, and that's just one reason why he should get the summer to mould his side. No one is saying he's doing a good job but it would be madness to sack him just now.

I actually don’t think anyone would be getting all that much more out this squad. The squad has such glaring deficiencies in key areas that I don’t think even the best of managers at our level would be getting many wins when your only striker is a 19 year old laddie who’s never played on grass and our midfielders are Newell, JDH and Campbell.

[BSEJVT]

I'd question whether Maloney is a decent manager if he can only do it under the very specific circumstances of having exactly the players he needs to make his only system work. A decent manager does a decent job with what he has, not what he needs.

But I'd agree that if the decision is made to keep Maloney then he needs to be properly backed rather than left to fail due to a lack of support.

Entirely fair comment

What if we buy him the squad he wants and they get injured / go off form?

Are we meant to put up with this pish again

A manager needs to get a tune out of what he has available and if that means compromising his principles in the short term to do so, so be it.

Maloney shows every sign of not being able to do this and it will cost him his job, probably sooner rather than later

[BSEJVT]

I actually don’t think anyone would be getting all that much more out this squad. The squad has such glaring deficiencies in key areas that I don’t think even the best of managers at our level would be getting many wins when your only striker is a 19 year old laddie who’s never played on grass and our midfielders are Newell, JDH and Campbell.

Completely disagree

A blind man could see this team's shortcomings

He has made zero effort to address them but has stuck slavishly to his preferred formation, whilst doing so he has hung the players out to dry, many of whom have collapsed in form.

Off the top of my head only Wright looks a better player since Maloney has come in and thats probably only as a result of playing more

There is a real risk here of him ruining the younger players like Melkerson, Jasper & Doig

His ability to spot a player is questionable as well, Rocky and Henderson to name but two, I have severe doubts either will ever make an impact at ER

[Eyrie]

I actually don’t think anyone would be getting all that much more out this squad. The squad has such glaring deficiencies in key areas that I don’t think even the best of managers at our level would be getting many wins when your only striker is a 19 year old laddie who’s never played on grass and our midfielders are Newell, JDH and Campbell.
I agree that the squad has major holes but surely that says more about the current manager for not addressing those weaknesses in January?


Maloney isn't responsible for Nisbet's injury. He is responsible for not bringing in more cover than Melkerson. He's also responsible for the departures of Hallberg, Gogic and Tait from our midfield.


Completely disagree

A blind man could see this team's shortcomings

He has made zero effort to address them but has stuck slavishly to his preferred formation, whilst doing so he has hung the players out to dry, many of whom have collapsed in form.

Off the top of my head only Wright looks a better player since Maloney has come in and thats probably only as a result of playing more

There is a real risk here of him ruining the younger players like Melkerson, Jasper & Doig

His ability to spot a player is questionable as well, Rocky and Henderson to name but two, I have severe doubts either will ever make an impact at ER
Completely accurate.

[IberianHibernian]

I can understand most criticisms of SM though I don`t share many if any of them . But I certainly don`t think he`s responsible in a positive or negative way for January signings . He had just arrived , Boyle departure seemed likely but wasn`t definite , Nesbit injury couldn`t be predicted or Doidge struggling , most if not all arrivals have shown at least potential but again injuries to Clarke who looks like a great signing and Mitchell haven`t helped . Whatever happens on Saturday , I hope our signing plans for first and Under 23 team continue as planned .

[Since452]

Completely disagree

A blind man could see this team's shortcomings

He has made zero effort to address them but has stuck slavishly to his preferred formation, whilst doing so he has hung the players out to dry, many of whom have collapsed in form.

Off the top of my head only Wright looks a better player since Maloney has come in and thats probably only as a result of playing more

There is a real risk here of him ruining the younger players like Melkerson, Jasper & Doig

His ability to spot a player is questionable as well, Rocky and Henderson to name but two, I have severe doubts either will ever make an impact at ER

To be honest. I don't think Maloney had a clue about our shortcomings. I blame him for a lot but not that. I blame whoever appointed him. When Ross was punted Hibs wouldn't have even been on Maloney's radar. He didn't even apply for the job so doubt he knew much about our season. If we'd appointed McInnes or someone in the game here the they would have known about our shortcomings and what was required. In fact I bet even Jack Ross did. The appointment of a rookie working for Belgium was just wrong. We needed an experienced hand for the January window.

[McD]

There’s a subtle difference between saying you are planning for next season and singling out individual players and telling them they aren’t in the management’s plans.

I think most professional football players can understand the difference, even if a simple fan doesn’t.


Which individual players have been singled out?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I agree that the squad has major holes but surely that says more about the current manager for not addressing those weaknesses in January?


Maloney isn't responsible for Nisbet's injury. He is responsible for not bringing in more cover than Melkerson. He's also responsible for the departures of Hallberg, Gogic and Tait from our midfield.


Completely accurate.

The recruitment team are responsible for the shortcomings. They were responsible in the summer when Jack Ross was manager. Why are they not responsible now?

Seems awful selective for Jack Ross to get off with it being the recruitment teams fault but then the exact same issue happening again in January is Maloneys fault. It’s almost as is people just want to find as many excuses to slate him as possible..

[J-C]

I agree that the squad has major holes but surely that says more about the current manager for not addressing those weaknesses in January?


Maloney isn't responsible for Nisbet's injury. He is responsible for not bringing in more cover than Melkerson. He's also responsible for the departures of Hallberg, Gogic and Tait from our midfield.


Completely accurate.


Is he also responsible for Doidge being complete dug sh it since he came back, is he responsible for Magennis being made of glass, what about injuries to key players like Newell, Hanlon etc, oh and what about Porteous being daft enough to be sent off again.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Which individual players have been singled out?

None. I think that’s the point.

People are suggesting Maloney has ‘done a Butcher’. Butcher told players they wouldn’t be at Hibs next season etc. Maloney has made a generic statement about how there’ll be movement in the summer both in and out and people are trying to dress the two up as being the same.

[IberianHibernian]

The recruitment team are responsible for the shortcomings. They were responsible in the summer when Jack Ross was manager. Why are they not responsible now?

Seems awful selective for Jack Ross to get off with it being the recruitment teams fault but then the exact same issue happening again in January is Maloneys fault. It’s almost as is people just want to find as many excuses to slate him as possible..Exactly . January is a difficult window for any club ( I say club and not manager since I think SM probably deserves very little credit or flak for winter signings as I doubt he had much say in any of the signings ) . This season hasn`t been good though LC final , SC semi ( hopefully winner) and 7th to 10th in league is still probably a good year in the 54 years I`ve seen including several when Turnbull was our manager .

[McD]

None. I think that’s the point.

People are suggesting Maloney has ‘done a Butcher’. Butcher told players they wouldn’t be at Hibs next season etc. Maloney has made a generic statement about how there’ll be movement in the summer both in and out and people are trying to dress the two up as being the same.


I know mate, was trying to get the OP to put up or shut up really, it really is a free for all to pummel maloney for absolutely anything just now. Will we see similar criticism if it turns out any of the players or their agents have been talking to other clubs in preparation for next season? Will we ****! But woe betide our manager for working to get new players in to (hopefully) improve us. Every single manager we’ve had will have done this, yet SM is getting it tight from some fans for doing it? As has been said, where was the criticism of JR when the pre contract was announced for mueller in the summer? It’s double standards. What’s next, I don’t like how he brushes his hair?

he’s not perfect, and I’m sure he could and hopefully will learn a lot, but ffs nothing is going to change in the next 48 hours and hopefully beyond, can we get behind him and try to push him and team on to victory rather than sniping at every little thing

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know mate, was trying to get the OP to put up or shut up really, it really is a free for all to pummel maloney for absolutely anything just now. Will we see similar criticism if it turns out any of the players or their agents have been talking to other clubs in preparation for next season? Will we ****! But woe betide our manager for working to get new players in to (hopefully) improve us. Every single manager we’ve had will have done this, yet SM is getting it tight from some fans for doing it? As has been said, where was the criticism of JR when the pre contract was announced for mueller in the summer? It’s double standards. What’s next, I don’t like how he brushes his hair?

he’s not perfect, and I’m sure he could and hopefully will learn a lot, but ffs nothing is going to change in the next 48 hours and hopefully beyond, can we get behind him and try to push him and team on to victory rather than sniping at every little thing

:agree:

[JimBHibees]

I know mate, was trying to get the OP to put up or shut up really, it really is a free for all to pummel maloney for absolutely anything just now. Will we see similar criticism if it turns out any of the players or their agents have been talking to other clubs in preparation for next season? Will we ****! But woe betide our manager for working to get new players in to (hopefully) improve us. Every single manager we’ve had will have done this, yet SM is getting it tight from some fans for doing it? As has been said, where was the criticism of JR when the pre contract was announced for mueller in the summer? It’s double standards. What’s next, I don’t like how he brushes his hair?

he’s not perfect, and I’m sure he could and hopefully will learn a lot, but ffs nothing is going to change in the next 48 hours and hopefully beyond, can we get behind him and try to push him and team on to victory rather than sniping at every little thing

Couldn't agree more the vibe on Manley really is despicable. Give the guy a forking chance

[FitbaFolkKen]

The recruitment team are responsible for the shortcomings. They were responsible in the summer when Jack Ross was manager. Why are they not responsible now?

Seems awful selective for Jack Ross to get off with it being the recruitment teams fault but then the exact same issue happening again in January is Maloneys fault. It’s almost as is people just want to find as many excuses to slate him as possible..

Ross got sacked, how did he get off with it?


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[Paulie Walnuts]

Ross got sacked, how did he get off with it?


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He got sacked for poor results, not poor recruitment.

It was pretty widely accepted that the recruitment in the summer let him down.

We’ve not changed the structure of our recruitment team, we still recruit players in the same way as we did before.

If it wasn’t Ross’ fault in the summer then it’s not Maloneys fault now.

[Dmas]

He got sacked for poor results, not poor recruitment.

It was pretty widely accepted that the recruitment in the summer let him down.

We’ve not changed the structure of our recruitment team, we still recruit players in the same way as we did before.

If it wasn’t Ross’ fault in the summer then it’s not Maloneys fault now.

There has been changes, Mathies out as sporting director, Ian Gordon is in as Head of Recruitment and Kensall is negotiating terms, I would like to know if the people making up the ‘recruitment team’ that IG is heading up have changed any since Lennons time here, I think around that time the recruitment was failing a lot of ‘samey’ midfeild types brought in around then and the January scramble started around lennys time as well, it’s maybe the actual team that’s needing shaken up

[Paulie Walnuts]

There has been changes, Mathies out as sporting director, Ian Gordon is in as Head of Recruitment and Kensall is negotiating terms, I would like to know if the people making up the ‘recruitment team’ that IG is heading up have changed any since Lennons time here, I think around that time the recruitment was failing a lot of ‘samey’ midfeild types brought in around then and the January scramble started around lennys time as well, it’s maybe the actual team that’s needing shaken up

It’s still the same idea for recruitment though. When people say Maloney should have went out and signed another forward, that’s not something he can just go out and do. Maloney doesn’t get free reign to go out and sign players like managers did 20 years ago.

The team definitely needs shaken up imo. A 3rd place finish papered over the cracks of how stale we’d become as a club. That can probably be traced all the way back to the end of Lennon/Heckingbottom.

We could do with getting rid of the majority of the squad and having a complete reset imo. Problem is we’ve inexplicably given really long contracts to a good few of them.

[JimBHibees]

It’s still the same idea for recruitment though. When people say Maloney should have went out and signed another forward, that’s not something he can just go out and do. Maloney doesn’t get free reign to go out and sign players like managers did 20 years ago.

The team definitely needs shaken up imo. A 3rd place finish papered over the cracks of how stale we’d become as a club. That can probably be traced all the way back to the end of Lennon/Heckingbottom.

We could do with getting rid of the majority of the squad and having a complete reset imo. Problem is we’ve inexplicably given really long contracts to a good few of them.

Think Maloney has final say assume he requests players or positions recruitment team give him a list then the group including our CEO decide who are realistic targets.

[500miles]

It’s still the same idea for recruitment though. When people say Maloney should have went out and signed another forward, that’s not something he can just go out and do. Maloney doesn’t get free reign to go out and sign players like managers did 20 years ago.

The team definitely needs shaken up imo. A 3rd place finish papered over the cracks of how stale we’d become as a club. That can probably be traced all the way back to the end of Lennon/Heckingbottom.

We could do with getting rid of the majority of the squad and having a complete reset imo. Problem is we’ve inexplicably given really long contracts to a good few of them.

3rd place isn't papering over cracks. You can't get a more substantial measure of consistent performance than your league position.

I'd argue the reason we're struggling because a lot of those players have hardly been available this season.

[MWHIBBIES]

It’s still the same idea for recruitment though. When people say Maloney should have went out and signed another forward, that’s not something he can just go out and do. Maloney doesn’t get free reign to go out and sign players like managers did 20 years ago.

The team definitely needs shaken up imo. A 3rd place finish papered over the cracks of how stale we’d become as a club. That can probably be traced all the way back to the end of Lennon/Heckingbottom.

We could do with getting rid of the majority of the squad and having a complete reset imo. Problem is we’ve inexplicably given really long contracts to a good few of them.

You think 3rd place and 2 cup finals in a row papered over cracks? What planet are you on?

[The Modfather]

You think 3rd place and 2 cup finals in a row papered over cracks? What planet are you on?

Papered over the cracks probably isn’t the most accurate terminology. However I never thought the foundations of last season were particularly strong. We deservedly finished 3rd but I wasn’t surprised to see this season go the way it has.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Papered over the cracks probably isn’t the most accurate terminology. However I never thought the foundations of last season were particularly strong. We deservedly finished 3rd but I wasn’t surprised to see this season go the way it has.

This is more what I meant.

We’ve been quite stale as a club for ages now, including the third place finish. Look at the amount of people that completely lost interest last season despite that third place finish. On paper the season we had last season should have been exceptional and the fans should have been absolutely buzzing. A huge amount of fans weren’t though.

We finished third last season and other than Martin Boyle there wasn’t really anyone I’d have been genuinely gutted to lose. Compare that to when we finished 4th under Lennon and at that point I think you could have listed 8 or 9 you’d be gutted to have lost.

Something hasn’t been right for a few years now at Hibs and that was also the case last season despite us finishing 3rd imo hence why I said it papered over the cracks of how stale we’d got. There was nothing in that team last season that made me look at it and think we’re really going places with this lot and that’s exactly how it’s panned out. It was all a bit 4th place John Hughes feel to it rather than 3rd or 4th place Mowbray or Championship winning/4th place Lennon feel to it. Even Stubbs second season had a better feel around the place despite all the disappointments that came before the cup win.

[superfurryhibby]

This is more what I meant.

We’ve been quite stale as a club for ages now, including the third place finish. Look at the amount of people that completely lost interest last season despite that third place finish. On paper the season we had last season should have been exceptional and the fans should have been absolutely buzzing. A huge amount of fans weren’t though.

We finished third last season and other than Martin Boyle there wasn’t really anyone I’d have been genuinely gutted to lose. Compare that to when we finished 4th under Lennon and at that point I think you could have listed 8 or 9 you’d be gutted to have lost.

Something hasn’t been right for a few years now at Hibs and that was also the case last season despite us finishing 3rd imo hence why I said it papered over the cracks of how stale we’d got. There was nothing in that team last season that made me look at it and think we’re really going places with this lot and that’s exactly how it’s panned out. It was all a bit 4th place John Hughes feel to it rather than 3rd or 4th place Mowbray or Championship winning/4th place Lennon feel to it. Even Stubbs second season had a better feel around the place despite all the disappointments that came before the cup win.

Gutted to lose any of a large group of players is always going to be a bit subjective, but I would have seen Boyle, Nisbet, Hanlon, Doidge, Newell, Porteous, Doig and Newell as big losses (to varying degrees) had they not been with the side at the start of the new season. Lennon's side played more scintillating football for around four months, granted.

The capitulations in cup games (where we were the better side, on form and in terms of players) was particularly galling and the lack of crowds last season was another huge factor, but personally, I was well and truly buzzing for big games las5 season though and so were all my Hibee pals?

[ScottB]

I think the problem is that by and large the standard of the league for the last couple years outside the Old Firm has been quite low, especially this year, where it seemed like everyone from 4th to 10th was determined to avoid finishing in the top 6!

Consequently, you can be third by just being a bit more consistent. Yes, actually managing that is still good, but we didn’t exactly sweep all before us on the way to it last season, despite no Hearts, Aberdeen falling over etc. Hearts aren’t a team of world beaters by any means, but they’ve got a much tighter grip on third than we ever got last season.

So it’s a weird one, objectively finishing third is a damn good season, yet it can also be seen as not all that impressive in context, at the same time.

[truehibernian]

A name thrown at me this week was Regan Poole, Lincoln City. Apparently we are keeping an eye on him. Welsh U21 who can play across defence and midfield. No ‘in the know’ information, just a guy I know who keeps tabs on things around certain clubs.

[Is It On....]

Whit? A decent manager makes the best of what he has inherited until he builds a team that suits his style. You think Pep or Klopp would turn St Mirren into trophy winners in three months?

My dad said that Stein turned an average squad into trophy challengers within 3 months. He also said the same squad became quite average within 3 months of him leaving ☹️

[Paulie Walnuts]

Gutted to lose any of a large group of players is always going to be a bit subjective, but I would have seen Boyle, Nisbet, Hanlon, Doidge, Newell, Porteous, Doig and Newell as big losses (to varying degrees) had they not been with the side at the start of the new season. Lennon's side played more scintillating football for around four months, granted.

The capitulations in cup games (where we were the better side, on form and in terms of players) was particularly galling and the lack of crowds last season was another huge factor, but personally, I was well and truly buzzing for big games las5 season though and so were all my Hibee pals?

That’s fair and as you say, it’s quite a subjective thing. I’d suggest there would be a lot of people would share your opinion and a lot of people would share mine from last season.

The likes of Lennons 17/18 4th place season though I’d expect it would be pretty unanimous that people would have been gutted had almost any of the whole full strength first 11 left - Rocky, Ambrose, McGregor, Gray, Stevenson, Dylan, Marv, McGinn, Allan, Boyle, Flo, Maclaren. There was loads of them.

I’ve got a couple of mates who didn’t bother renewing this season after last season. Just had no interest in watching us. I renewed but I can’t say my feelings were all that much different. There was no real desperation from me to get back and watch these players. There was something missing last season for me in what should have been an exceptional season and from reading this forum I think a lot of others were the same. Everything about it was just all a bit meh.

[FitbaFolkKen]

He got sacked for poor results, not poor recruitment.

It was pretty widely accepted that the recruitment in the summer let him down.

We’ve not changed the structure of our recruitment team, we still recruit players in the same way as we did before.

If it wasn’t Ross’ fault in the summer then it’s not Maloneys fault now.

He did, Maloney has poor results too. If poor results got Ross sacked then surely they should get Maloney sacked now by that rationale?

There is a fundamental flaw in your logic on this.

Edit - sorry realised this is the transfer thread.


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[superfurryhibby]

He got sacked for poor results, not poor recruitment.

It was pretty widely accepted that the recruitment in the summer let him down.

We’ve not changed the structure of our recruitment team, we still recruit players in the same way as we did before.

If it wasn’t Ross’ fault in the summer then it’s not Maloneys fault now.

He wasn’t sacked for poor results, he was sacked because Ron wanted him out.

However, poor recruitment usually leads to poor results, and who cares about the structure of our recruitment team? In fact , who actually knows. Stop pretending you know everything, it’s tiresome

[IberianHibernian]

He did, Maloney has poor results too. If poor results got Ross sacked then surely they should get Maloney sacked now by that rationale?

There is a fundamental flaw in your logic on this.

Edit - sorry realised this is the transfer thread.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkRoss got poor results with a stronger squad than maloney has had so far . More importantly , Maloney was signed as part of a longer term plan with Steve Kean to build squad with young , talented players who will challenge more strongly in a few years`time than say last year`s squad . Not writing off this season but priority is next season and after and anything like cup success this season a welcome bonus .

[McGruber]

Ross got poor results with a stronger squad than maloney has had so far . More importantly , Maloney was signed as part of a longer term plan with Steve Kean to build squad with young , talented players who will challenge more strongly in a few years`time than say last year`s squad . Not writing off this season but priority is next season and after and anything like cup success this season a welcome bonus .

This season's rewards for European football include guarantee group football and cash of anything from 3 to 6 million. £2.2 million for 3rd place down to what, something like £500K for 10th. Great timing to think longer term and write this season off. It has been a disaster. Only a win today rescues any pride and keeps Maloney in post. Lose and he keeps his job then the longer term rebuild starts with season ticket sales of circa 6 to 7K, a disconnect between fans and club and a massive hole in the budget to sign these new players designed to challenge next season onwards.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He wasn’t sacked for poor results, he was sacked because Ron wanted him out.

However, poor recruitment usually leads to poor results, and who cares about the structure of our recruitment team? In fact , who actually knows. Stop pretending you know everything, it’s tiresome

Know everything? I’ve been quite clear all my posts are my opinion.

[04Sauzee]

Harry Milne who someone on here said we were interested in has won a couple of Cove POTY awards this evening.

[andrew70]

Harry Milne who someone on here said we were interested in has won a couple of Cove POTY awards this evening.

Is he not going to Patrick Thistle?

[04Sauzee]

Is he not going to Patrick Thistle?

Not sure read on here Hibs had shown an interest and had heard Aberdeen funnily enough.

[Unseen work]

Harry McKirdy who were interested in also scored 2 today on his return from interview.

He also gave a very interesting interview after the game about the effect home fans have and how badly it can impact the team however when they’re away from home the fans are always brilliant and a lot more supportive…

[Hibernian Verse]

Harry McKirdy who were interested in also scored 2 today on his return from interview.

He also gave a very interesting interview after the game about the effect home fans have and how badly it can impact the team however when they’re away from home the fans are always brilliant and a lot more supportive…

Exactly like the Hibs support. Home are Twitter fannies, away are the club stalwarts.