Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[JimBHibees]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

Struggling to think of the rational in that sale. Down south fair enough.

[JamesHFC]

Really impressed with this window. It’s exactly what we needed. Credit to those involved.

[Unseen work]

Is Connor young not viewed by many of those that regularly watch the 18s as one of the most ready for first team?

Seems to score loads of different types of goals and seem a much better build for making the step up?

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/revealed-the-full-reuben-mcallister-to-hibernian-fee-as-bristol-city-academy-raises-more-money-3763035

That’s a lot of money for a 16 year old on only a three year deal?


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[Hibbyradge]

https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/revealed-the-full-reuben-mcallister-to-hibernian-fee-as-bristol-city-academy-raises-more-money-3763035

That’s a lot of money for a 16 year old on only a three year deal?


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3 years is the max for under 18s.

[scoopyboy]

https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/revealed-the-full-reuben-mcallister-to-hibernian-fee-as-bristol-city-academy-raises-more-money-3763035

That’s a lot of money for a 16 year old on only a three year deal?


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Two or three posters have explained 3 years is the maximum length you can give a 16yo.

Fair bit of money right enough.

[flash]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

Difficult to keep these young boys when bigger clubs come knocking but your "Hibs view etc" sentence simply can't be true as he is well ahead of Laidlaw development wise.

[CapitalGreen]

Difficult to keep these young boys when bigger clubs come knocking but your "Hibs view etc" sentence simply can't be true as he is well ahead of Laidlaw development wise.

Laidlaw and O’Connor have both been involved in first team squads, while Young hasn’t.

[flash]

Laidlaw and O’Connor have both been involved in first team squads, while Young hasn’t.

Yeah I know and they may very well have more potential but I stick with my point.

[Brooster]

Laidlaw and O’Connor have both been involved in first team squads, while Young hasn’t.

I would place them...1 Laidlaw 2 Young and 3 O'connor at this moment in time. Just my opinion of course.

[The dalmeny]

Laidlaw and O’Connor have both been involved in first team squads, while Young hasn’t.

that will probably reflect what cover the first team needed at the time

[The dalmeny]

Difficult to keep these young boys when bigger clubs come knocking but your "Hibs view etc" sentence simply can't be true as he is well ahead of Laidlaw development wise.

Young’s always been the one who stood out in the matches I’ve seen

[Gmack7]

Young’s always been the one who stood out in the matches I’ve seen

And that'll be the main reason the huns have bid for him and not the other 2

[cocopops1875]

And that'll be the main reason the huns have bid for him and not the other 2

And that will be the reason he’s gone because he feels like Hibs are promoting others above him.

[HIBS NUTS]

I would place them...1 Laidlaw 2 Young and 3 O'connor at this moment in time. Just my opinion of course.

1.Young 2.o’connor 3.Laidlaw
Laidlaw has looked off the pace recently probably to do with stretching,too quickly. 👍🏻

[Stairway 2 7]

His dad wasn't happy others were chosen in front of him for full team squads last season, it was put to them it would be the same this season. O'connor should be back this week and is seen as the top striking prospect by hibs

[brog]

Not trying to be rude here, but if you can't try more difficult passes when 5-0 vs a lower league team, when can you? Portos distribution is good, sometimes he tries too much, but id much rather a player try too hard than not enough.

He doesn't try "world cup passes" to be a billy big baws, it's because he genuinely thinks he can play the pass. Yeah they might not come out for him, but if he's trying it vs Rangers at 0-0 then maybe I see the issue, moaning at him trying a few difficult passes when 5-0 up is a bit mental tho

Exactly right. Porto also played on the right in the 2nd half with the expectation that both Miller and Cadden would be bombing on. I suspect our management encouraged Porto to try these balls in the 2nd half. They were certainly doing that in Portugal.

[brog]

Young’s always been the one who stood out in the matches I’ve seen

Agreed, wonderful left foot.

[DetroitHibs]

His dad wasn't happy others were chosen in front of him for full team squads last season, it was put to them it would be the same this season. O'connor should be back this week and is seen as the top striking prospect by hibs

Sounds like Kurtis Byrne all over again. Look what happened to him 🙄

[Greencore]

Sounds like Kurtis Byrne all over again. Look what happened to him 🙄

Got a move to rangers and hibs got a cash fee?

[DetroitHibs]

Got a move to rangers and hibs got a cash fee?

His dad got involved and pushed a move through and the lads career was a non starter.

[Stuart93]

Get nowhere near rangers first team. He’ll play a season or two for their B team then probably end up in the Scottish championship/L1.

[Tambo]

Sounds like Kurtis Byrne all over again. Look what happened to him 🙄

Also not that long ago Josh McPake who I mentioned in a post who was highly rated left us to go the the Huns and has been on loan in England lower league.

Can see why Hibs accepted some money even if it's a five figure sum like reported.

[Sergio sledge]

Difficult to keep these young boys when bigger clubs come knocking but your "Hibs view etc" sentence simply can't be true as he is well ahead of Laidlaw development wise.

I suppose he may be ahead of Laidlaw right now, but the articles online are saying the Hibs think that O'Connor and Laidlaw "are viewed as more likely to hit Lee Johnson's senior squad." It's a subtle difference, but the club are going with the line that they think that the others have better prospects of making the break through in the future. All three being around the same age probably doesn't help any of them as they will all be fighting for the same spots in the development side.

No point Hibs standing in his way if they think others are more likely to make it and he has an offer from elsewhere. I guess the club probably didn't think it would be to the likes of The Rangers. Will be interesting to see how he gets on playing in the lowland league for them.

[CapitalGreen]

Also not that long ago Josh McPake who I mentioned in a post, who was highly rated left us to go the the Huns and has been on loan in England lower league.

Can see why Hibs accepted some money even if it's a five figure sum like reported.

Can add Kieran McGrath who joined Celtic around the same time I think. Without a club after spending last season on loan at Clyde.

[wallpaperman]

His dad wasn't happy others were chosen in front of him for full team squads last season, it was put to them it would be the same this season. O'connor should be back this week and is seen as the top striking prospect by hibs

Terrible piece of business from Hibs. I understand Connor had a year left on his contract at Hibs, there seemed to be little appetite to offer him an improved deal.

Very short sighted, and I agree with others that he has looked the stand out whenever I have seen the youth team.

[Stuart93]

Terrible piece of business from Hibs. I understand Connor had a year left on his contract at Hibs, there seemed to be little appetite to offer him an improved deal.

Very short sighted, and I agree with others that he has looked the stand out whenever I have seen the youth team.

These deals of youngsters moving from us to the old firm very rarely work out very well to be honest.

Also been a VERY long time now that we’ve produced a striker from youth that’s made it at us

[Since452]

Any news on the work permit situation? Could do with them getting the league cup games to bed in.

[Sergio sledge]

Terrible piece of business from Hibs. I understand Connor had a year left on his contract at Hibs, there seemed to be little appetite to offer him an improved deal.

Very short sighted, and I agree with others that he has looked the stand out whenever I have seen the youth team.

He may well turn out to be the best out of the three of them, but it's extremely rare for Hibs to release or sell a youth player and for it to be a big mistake. I struggle to think of any to be honest. Leigh Griffiths maybe?

With all the investment in the Development side you'd have thought there might have been room for all three, but clearly he's decided he's got better prospects at the rangers than being potentially 2nd choice in our development side.

[Dmas]

And that'll be the main reason the huns have bid for him and not the other 2

Rangers already have a young striker that can’t get game time even with the guy roofe who can’t string a handful of games together, terrible decision to go there he’ll be ditched in lowland league squad at a time there’s people to impress and places to be won at hibs short sightedness from his old man if that’s what’s went on

[04Sauzee]

Confirm by Hibs now that Connor Young has joined rangers

[brog]

Also not that long ago Josh McPake who I mentioned in a post who was highly rated left us to go the the Huns and has been on loan in England lower league.

Can see why Hibs accepted some money even if it's a five figure sum like reported.


Young’s always been the one who stood out in the matches I’ve seen

Me too and I'm disappointed to see him go. 1 possible piece of thinking however is that if Connor does do well at them then he'll probably command a far higher fee, a la Patterson, than he would from us. Assuming we have a sell on clause it could eventually be fruitful.

[Tambo]

Confirm by Hibs now that Connor Young has joined rangers

We’re really excited about the potential that Ethan and Josh have. Ethan was away with Scotland Under-17s this summer for the Euros, and Josh made a cameo appearance for the first team last season away at Aberdeen. They’re both pacy strikers who love to get in-behind defences and cause opposition players problems.

We received a very good amount for Connor, alongside his sell-on, and that allows us to give more opportunities to Ethan and Josh.

What Kean has said.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

We’re really excited about the potential that Ethan and Josh have. Ethan was away with Scotland Under-17s this summer for the Euros, and Josh made a cameo appearance for the first team last season away at Aberdeen. They’re both pacy strikers who love to get in-behind defences and cause opposition players problems.

We received a very good amount for Connor, alongside his sell-on, and that allows us to give more opportunities to Ethan and Josh.

What Kean has said.

Fair enough!

[villager]

He’s one to hold onto for me. Very surprised Connor Young isn’t seen as at least an equal with Laidlaw and O’connor. Dev team cant’t have 3 good forwards across the season? Loan in Jan an option if not working out?

Must have some cracking 16 and 17 yr old forward lads as cover for development team?

There are no certainties in developing young team but this sale feels very high risk.

If the lad and his family do feel unappreciated as suggested I can see why, his recent development is impressive.

[The dalmeny]

Losing this

https://twitter.com/gilbertsongrant/status/1487364306085855234?s=21&t=mdY44M1O5o-bDEo2eW8TFg

[wallpaperman]

Losing this

https://twitter.com/gilbertsongrant/status/1487364306085855234?s=21&t=mdY44M1O5o-bDEo2eW8TFg

Connor’s Mum’s side of the family (including Connor himself) are die hard Hibs fans, his Dad’s not.

[Malthibby]

Sounds like Kurtis Byrne all over again. Look what happened to him 🙄


Had forgotten about Kurtis Byrne, I hope for Connor's sake his dad hasn't interfered in the same way as Byrne senior.
As has been noted, it didn't end well. As has also been noted, it's incredibly difficult to pick youngsters who are going to make it,
let's just hope our coaches have made the right choices.
GG

[The dalmeny]

We’re really excited about the potential that Ethan and Josh have. Ethan was away with Scotland Under-17s this summer for the Euros, and Josh made a cameo appearance for the first team last season away at Aberdeen. They’re both pacy strikers who love to get in-behind defences and cause opposition players problems.

We received a very good amount for Connor, alongside his sell-on, and that allows us to give more opportunities to Ethan and Josh.

What Kean has said.

perhaps the other two might fit better in the plans, doesn’t mean they are better players.

[ahibby]

perhaps the other two might fit better in the plans, doesn’t mean they are better players.

Or maybe non of the three are going to make it, so doesnt matter.

[Leith Green]

Connor’s Mum’s side of the family (including Connor himself) are die hard Hibs fans, his Dad’s not.

Went to school with his stepdad and that side are all jambos. Know them well , nice guy as are his family..

[Since452]

I'd only heard of Connor Young for the first time tonight. O'Connor and Laidlaw seem to be breaking into first team squads. Makes sense for the young lad to move on? Must be well down the pecking order?

[wallpaperman]

I'd only heard of Connor Young for the first time tonight. O'Connor and Laidlaw seem to be breaking into first team squads. Makes sense for the young lad to move on? Must be well down the pecking order?

You sound well qualified to make an assessment of someone you have never heard of. :confused:

Serious question, do you just live in a first team bubble and have no interest beyond that?

[CapitalGreen]

Also not that long ago Josh McPake who I mentioned in a post, who was highly rated left us to go the the Huns and has been on loan in England lower league.

Can add Kieran McGrath who joined Celtic around the same time I think. Without a club after spending last season on loan at Clyde.

Another one for the list is Kane O’Connor, left Hibs for Brentford. Now without a club after leaving Brentford last summer and having a couple of short spells at Cowdenbeath and Elgin. Much gnashing of teeth on this thread at the time https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?338940-Kane-O-Connor

[JimBHibees]

Basically the. sort of decision which is a key part of players development paths as there is only a very few that genuinely make it. Got to be seen as huge progress that we appear to have three up and coming forward players at the same time. A huge positive to me imo for the clubs development going forward.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Terrible piece of business from Hibs. I understand Connor had a year left on his contract at Hibs, there seemed to be little appetite to offer him an improved deal.

Very short sighted, and I agree with others that he has looked the stand out whenever I have seen the youth team.
According to the club statement there is a substantial sell on fee attached to the deal. Doesn't spund like it is short sighted. The laddie is a prospect but down the pecking order in terms of dev potential in the eyes of the coaches. We've covered our backs financially and the laddie now joins a club where he will be even further down the pecking order.

The Academy model isnt just about getting guys into our first team but generating cash too.

[04Sauzee]

Sheep to sign a winger/foward from Benfica B as well (Luis Duk)

Aberdeen press reporting Aberdeen are paying £400k for this boy

[04Sauzee]

Craig Sibbald 2 year deal at Dundee Utd announced.

[neil7908]

You sound well qualified to make an assessment of someone you have never heard of. :confused:

Serious question, do you just live in a first team bubble and have no interest beyond that?

So you are better placed to assess Hibs young players than the professional coaches who work with them every day?

What a strange, aggressive post to a fellow Hibee who, like 95% of fans, will not pay much attention to anything outside the first team.

I'd never heard of the young lad before tonight either.

[Heisenberg]

Aberdeen press reporting Aberdeen are paying £400k for this boy

That on top of the 500k+ they spent on Miovski. Goodwin certainly getting well backed.

[Stuart93]

That on top of the 500k+ they spent on Miovski. Goodwin certainly getting well backed.

£1.4m they’ve spent this summer

[Lago]

:aok:
So you are better placed to assess Hibs young players than the professional coaches who work with them every day?

What a strange, aggressive post to a fellow Hibee who, like 95% of fans, will not pay much attention to anything outside the first team.

I'd never heard of the young lad before tonight either.

[ElginHibbie]

£1.4m they’ve spent this summer

Gonna be a very interesting season that's for sure, hope every penny of £1.4m has been wasted!

[Northernhibee]

£1.4m they’ve spent this summer

They were more of the same as last year against Peterhead. Had plenty of the ball but no cutting edge.

[04Sauzee]

They were more of the same as last year against Peterhead. Had plenty of the ball but no cutting edge.

Similarly to us I think they have a few guys awaiting a work permit? One of their boys just one today. Also looks like they have signed this boy from Portugal and they are looking at signing a couple of attacking midfielders. I don't think the team they put out against Peterhead will be the team that they put out at the end of the window.

Agreed the were dreadful though.

[KeithTheHibby]

£1.4m they’ve spent this summer

They’ve pulled in 6m.

[CapitalGreen]

£1.4m they’ve spent this summer

but lost their top scorer and top assister.

[wallpaperman]

So you are better placed to assess Hibs young players than the professional coaches who work with them every day?

What a strange, aggressive post to a fellow Hibee who, like 95% of fans, will not pay much attention to anything outside the first team.

I'd never heard of the young lad before tonight either.

I don’t think I aggressive and I don’t intend to debate with you, someone who has never heard of one of our top young stars, the top scorer in our under 18 title winning team.

I’ve seen the youth team a number of times, and Connor stood out ahead of many of the players who were included in the first team squad, when Connor never featured. Why that is, we’ll never know.

I don’t believe he would be anywhere near Rangers if they didn’t believe in his huge potential having faced them a number of times last season.

[huggie1875]

maybe the lads decided to move on he's allowed a say too

[NAE NOOKIE]

I don’t think I aggressive and I don’t intend to debate with you, someone who has never heard of one of our top young stars, the top scorer in our under 18 title winning team.

I’ve seen the youth team a number of times, and Connor stood out ahead of many of the players who were included in the first team squad, when Connor never featured. Why that is, we’ll never know.

I don’t believe he would be anywhere near Rangers if they didn’t believe in his huge potential having faced them a number of times last season.

But on the other hand it's doubtful Hibs would have let him go if they thought he was looking like a real first team contender. The fact is club's like The Rangers can attract young players from other clubs and have the means to pinch them without it hurting too much, and if the kids dad was a major influence there was probably little Hibs could do.

Plenty of folk have said it: Hibs have had a number of youngsters go to the Uglies and elsewhere and not a single one of them has come back to haunt us or made a dent elsewhere ...... who was the last striker from their youth team to come through at Rangers and be a regular? .... Hell it was probably Ally McCoist :greengrin

[neil7908]

I don’t think I aggressive and I don’t intend to debate with you, someone who has never heard of one of our top young stars, the top scorer in our under 18 title winning team.

I’ve seen the youth team a number of times, and Connor stood out ahead of many of the players who were included in the first team squad, when Connor never featured. Why that is, we’ll never know.

I don’t believe he would be anywhere near Rangers if they didn’t believe in his huge potential having faced them a number of times last season.

Ah so you've seen the youth team a number of times, which I guess means that you are a better judge than the professional coaches that see the young players day in, day out, and will have seen every game he's played. I'll definitely take your judgement then over the pro's at the club :confused::confused::confused:.

Oh and RE the bit in bold, I think we do know - the club dont agree with you. Simple as that.

[jacomo]

I don’t think I aggressive and I don’t intend to debate with you, someone who has never heard of one of our top young stars, the top scorer in our under 18 title winning team.

I’ve seen the youth team a number of times, and Connor stood out ahead of many of the players who were included in the first team squad, when Connor never featured. Why that is, we’ll never know.

I don’t believe he would be anywhere near Rangers if they didn’t believe in his huge potential having faced them a number of times last season.


I think this is fair comment.

I welcome insight from fans who watch the development team / youth players.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Connor Young would have been a player well worth hanging onto as he has a real chance of making the breakthrough at a reasonably high level.

He looked the pick of current crop of young strikers though given the respect ages its hard to tell.

Quite strong, decent football brain,two footed and good movement.

There isn't a lot Hibs can do though if the player gets presented and wants to move to a higher profile club and all they can do is try to negotiate the best deal possible.

[Kato]

Hell it was probably Ally McCoist :greengrin

Developed by St Johnstone.

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[The_Sauz]

But on the other hand it's doubtful Hibs would have let him go if they thought he was looking like a real first team contender. The fact is club's like The Rangers can attract young players from other clubs and have the means to pinch them without it hurting too much, and if the kids dad was a major influence there was probably little Hibs could do.

Plenty of folk have said it: Hibs have had a number of youngsters go to the Uglies and elsewhere and not a single one of them has come back to haunt us or made a dent elsewhere ...... who was the last striker from their youth team to come through at Rangers and be a regular? .... Hell it was probably Ally McCoist :greengrin
They got him from Saint Johnstone :wink:

[Tully]

Thought mccoist signed from Sunderland

[Hibs90]

Hibs shouldn’t be doing any business with that lot full stop.

Horrible club

[bod]

Thought mccoist signed from Sunderland

I thought that too, took John Greg 3 attempts to sign him but maybe I’m mistaking

[Since452]

Young McClelland was allowed to leave Rangers and could very well become a nailed on starter for us. Looks the part. These things happen. We're top heavy with strikers and Laidlaw and O'Connor are both ahead of him. Cash and a sell on for Young sounds like a sensible outcome all round.

[May21/05/216]

Young McClelland was allowed to leave Rangers and could very well become a nailed on starter for us. Looks the part. These things happen. We're top heavy with strikers and Laidlaw and O'Connor are both ahead of him. Cash and a sell on for Young sounds like a sensible outcome all round.I agree

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[Brooster]

As someone has already mentioned earlier Hibs have sold a number of youth players in recent years, there's always been a bit of an uproar from the fans but the truth is most of these players are now looking for clubs or playing well down the leagues. I'll trust Hibs on this one.

[Hibernian Verse]

There must be a reason why Laidlaw & O'Connor are in Scotland setups and Young is not.

[McGruber]

There must be a reason why Laidlaw & O'Connor are in Scotland setups and Young is not.

There may well be. On the face of it though that reason doesn't seem to be that they are playing better or scoring more. Maybe it is how the coaches feel about their respective headroom for improvement who knows. Playing devils advocate there must be a reason Young has been signed by a bigger club with bags of cash/options.
For what it is worth he had a year left on his contract, he has obviously had this option infront of him and wanted to/has taken it. Probably not much Hibs could have done other than try and get the best recompense possible.
I bet the club are more disappointed than their positive spin suggests but they are not at fault here. The deal could end up being a good one for the club. Some of the more promising kids make it and some don't

[Hibernian Verse]

There may well be. On the face of it though that reason doesn't seem to be that they are playing better or scoring more. Maybe it is how the coaches feel about their respective headroom for improvement who knows. Playing devils advocate there must be a reason Young has been signed by a bigger club with bags of cash/options.
For what it is worth he had a year left on his contract, he has obviously had this option infront of him and wanted to/has taken it. Probably not much Hibs could have done other than try and get the best recompense possible.
I bet the club are more disappointed than their positive spin suggests but they are not at fault here. The deal could end up being a good one for the club. Some of the more promising kids make it and some don't

Yeah you're right. I overheard a youth ref at sevens last night suggesting Young has been badly advised by those close to him and isn't anywhere near as good as he/they think he is.

Time will tell.

[CentreLine]

I thought that too, took John Greg 3 attempts to sign him but maybe I’m mistaking

Think you are right. There was a lot of talk about rangers signing him from St J but the club held all the cards in those days and they sold him to Sunderland. From there he moved to rangers.

[McGruber]

As someone has already mentioned earlier Hibs have sold a number of youth players in recent years, there's always been a bit of an uproar from the fans but the truth is most of these players are now looking for clubs or playing well down the leagues. I'll trust Hibs on this one.

I don't disagree. Almost makes you feel what is the point though. Knowing not just most of our youth players don't make it but most of the ones starring at youth level don't.
Is Porteous the last one to have really came through youth ranks? Maybe the club should bin the youth set up and concentrate on the development team - bring in young players to the development team from elsewhere like we have been recently - English/foreign drop outs plus closer to home Cummings, Doigs etc. Wonder what it looks like, the cost of running the youth operation v output for first team/player sales?

Whether Connor Young makes the grade or not naturally we are going to be disappointed because we hope all the kids come good at Hibs and we hold out most hope for the ones standing out.

[J-C]

But on the other hand it's doubtful Hibs would have let him go if they thought he was looking like a real first team contender. The fact is club's like The Rangers can attract young players from other clubs and have the means to pinch them without it hurting too much, and if the kids dad was a major influence there was probably little Hibs could do.

Plenty of folk have said it: Hibs have had a number of youngsters go to the Uglies and elsewhere and not a single one of them has come back to haunt us or made a dent elsewhere ...... who was the last striker from their youth team to come through at Rangers and be a regular? .... Hell it was probably Ally McCoist :greengrin

Although others have pointed out it was St Johnstone it only further proves your point that Rangers for all their buying of other clubs talent, have struggled over many years to produce 1st team players from their own academy set up.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't disagree. Almost makes you feel what is the point though. Knowing not just most of our youth players don't make it but most of the ones starring at youth level don't.
Is Porteous the last one to have really came through youth ranks? Maybe the club should bin the youth set up and concentrate on the development team - bring in young players to the development team from elsewhere like we have been recently - English/foreign drop outs plus closer to home Cummings, Doigs etc. Wonder what it looks like, the cost of running the youth operation v output for first team/player sales?

Whether Connor Young makes the grade or not naturally we are going to be disappointed because we hope all the kids come good at Hibs and we hold out most hope for the ones standing out.

Is the scenario you describe not the model Brentford use? Something tells me they don’t have a full on youth setup but invest heavily in the teams just below first team.

It works really well for them.

[easty]

Is the scenario you describe not the model Brentford use? Something tells me they don’t have a full on youth setup but invest heavily in the teams just below first team.

It works really well for them.

Brentford are re-opening their academy

[HIBS NUTS]

Although others have pointed out it was St Johnstone it only further proves your point that Rangers for all their buying of other clubs talent, have struggled over many years to produce 1st team players from their own academy set up.

I often watch the under 18splay and am disappointed at Connor Young moving especially to them, however the best player for me in the last 2 games is BALDE, he has great balance, and reads a game well, he’s young but didn’t come through the normal route, i think we got him from paying a small fee to lowland league team.

[Hibby Bairn]

Brentford are re-opening their academy

Only because Premier League rules have changed to say they have to though.

[04Sauzee]

I often watch the under 18splay and am disappointed at Connor Young moving especially to them, however the best player for me in the last 2 games is BALDE, he has great balance, and reads a game well, he’s young but didn’t come through the normal route, i think we got him from paying a small fee to lowland league team.

Balde has been with Rangers and Livingston and is now 21 , heard lots of good things about him as a player , this is a big season for him I'd imagine.

[Michael]

Brentford closed their academy because anyone half decent would be poached by a bigger London club - so it made it a pretty pointless endeavour.

I'd hope we'd have a better chance of retaining prospects given we have less competition in our area.

[HIBS NUTS]

Balde has been with Rangers and Livingston and is now 21 , heard lots of good things about him as a player , this is a big season for him I'd imagine.

Aye think we paid a small fee for him, he’s small in stature, so mabye the reason he’s previously been released.
i would be Disappointed if he doesn’t start appearing on the bench or in the match day squads of the big team.
Fantastic Attitude.👍🏻

[CapitalGreen]

As someone has already mentioned earlier Hibs have sold a number of youth players in recent years, there's always been a bit of an uproar from the fans but the truth is most of these players are now looking for clubs or playing well down the leagues. I'll trust Hibs on this one.

These are the high profile youth players we have lost in recent years and as you say each time there was a bit of an uproar that they left. There are probably more but as I can’t remember them they probably haven’t made much impact in the game.

Kieran McGrath - Celtic, now unattached
Josh McPake - Rangers, has never played in the 1st team
Jack Adamson - Rangers, now unattached
Kane O’Connor - Brentford, now unattached

[flash]

These are the high profile youth players we have lost in recent years and as you say each time there was a bit of an uproar that they left. There are probably more but as I can’t remember them they probably haven’t made much impact in the game.

Kieran McGrath - Celtic, now unattached
Josh McPake - Rangers, has never played in the 1st team
Jack Adamson - Rangers, now unattached
Kane O’Connor - Brentford, now unattached

Amazing how often the boys who go on to have the best careers are not thought of as the best in their team at youth level.
So many things have to fall into place to make it at a decent level regardless of how good you are at 16 or 17.

[GloryGlory]

Any news yet if Doig has signed for Verona? His medical was supposed to be yesterday.

[Smartie]

These are the high profile youth players we have lost in recent years and as you say each time there was a bit of an uproar that they left. There are probably more but as I can’t remember them they probably haven’t made much impact in the game.

Kieran McGrath - Celtic, now unattached
Josh McPake - Rangers, has never played in the 1st team
Jack Adamson - Rangers, now unattached
Kane O’Connor - Brentford, now unattached

When these players leave Hibs, I almost never think it’s in their best interests to do so.

Not saying they’d have been a guaranteed success if they’d stayed but I’m not sure any of them have gained anything from leaving.

I don’t think we’re a bad place for a player to develop and I don’t think our record at developing players is that bad.

[brog]

So you are better placed to assess Hibs young players than the professional coaches who work with them every day?

What a strange, aggressive post to a fellow Hibee who, like 95% of fans, will not pay much attention to anything outside the first team.

I'd never heard of the young lad before tonight either.

Not sure where you get the 95% from. I live in London and was very familiar with Connor from various sites, including one where his step dad posted updates and videos on every U 18 game. The OP wasn't originally questioning our mgt decision, he was questioning why a poster who had never heard of the player was commenting on that player's ability or otherwise. I think that was a valid question.

[CapitalGreen]

Amazing how often the boys who go on to have the best careers are not thought of as the best in their team at youth level.
So many things have to fall into place to make it at a decent level regardless of how good you are at 16 or 17.

Maybe partly down to physical development, bigger players at youth level will look more first team ready because they have the physical appearance of a first team player. Players who develop physically earlier can dominate at youth level playing against smaller players but then they don’t necessarily have that same advantage when stepping up to adult football. At youth level their physical strength can help mask flaws in other parts of their game. Fraser Hornby is a good example of a striker who was physically dominant at youth level and a goal machine but hasn’t been able to translate that into adults football.

[flash]

Maybe partly down to physical development, bigger players at youth level will look more first team ready because they have the physical appearance of a first team player. Players who develop physically earlier can dominate at youth level playing against smaller players but then they don’t necessarily have that same advantage when stepping up to adult football. At youth level their physical strength can help mask flaws in other parts of their game. Fraser Hornby is a good example of a striker who was physically dominant at youth level and a goal machine but hasn’t been able to translate that into adults football.
Absolutely. It's a massive step up.

[happiehibbie]

I often watch the under 18splay and am disappointed at Connor Young moving especially to them, however the best player for me in the last 2 games is BALDE, he has great balance, and reads a game well, he’s young but didn’t come through the normal route, i think we got him from paying a small fee to lowland league team.

Got him for nothing from the Strollers absolutely shocking to be honest.

[BILLYHIBS]

Got him for nothing from the Strollers absolutely shocking to be honest.

Not even a set o strips or a bag a ba’s?

[Stairway 2 7]

Melkerson is only a year and a half older than Young, will Young be where he is developmentally at the start of next season, I'd doubt it. With Doidge, Nisbet and Melkerson, behind them Youan and Bojang with squad numbers. Behind them O'connor and Laidlaw ahead in the queue, you can see why young would need to move to get a chance

[bigwheel]

Melkerson is only a year and a half older than Young, will Young be where he is developmentally at the start of next season, I'd doubt it. With Doidge, Nisbet and Melkerson, behind them Youan and Bojang with squad numbers. Behind them O'connor and Laidlaw ahead in the queue, you can see why young would need to move to get a chance

He’s not moved to get a chance though . His route to first team football at Rangers will be much harder than here. He’s moved perhaps for his development , but it won’t be first team football there.

[JimBHibees]

As someone has already mentioned earlier Hibs have sold a number of youth players in recent years, there's always been a bit of an uproar from the fans but the truth is most of these players are now looking for clubs or playing well down the leagues. I'll trust Hibs on this one.

Same for me.

[happiehibbie]

Not even a set o strips or a bag a ba’s?

Nothing not even the "The hole in the Donut"

[JimBHibees]

But on the other hand it's doubtful Hibs would have let him go if they thought he was looking like a real first team contender. The fact is club's like The Rangers can attract young players from other clubs and have the means to pinch them without it hurting too much, and if the kids dad was a major influence there was probably little Hibs could do.

Plenty of folk have said it: Hibs have had a number of youngsters go to the Uglies and elsewhere and not a single one of them has come back to haunt us or made a dent elsewhere ...... who was the last striker from their youth team to come through at Rangers and be a regular? .... Hell it was probably Ally McCoist :greengrin

Ally didnt come through at Rangers St Johnstone then Sunderland

[bigwheel]

Ally didnt come through at Rangers St Johnstone then Sunderland

Got me thinking as to who would be the last youngster brought through as a forward for Rangers - are we going back as far as McSwegan or Fleck ??

What a poor record that is for them ..

[H18S NX]

Young McClelland was allowed to leave Rangers and could very well become a nailed on starter for us. Looks the part. These things happen. We're top heavy with strikers and Laidlaw and O'Connor are both ahead of him. Cash and a sell on for Young sounds like a sensible outcome all round......:aok:

[Stairway 2 7]

He’s not moved to get a chance though . His route to first team football at Rangers will be much harder than here. He’s moved perhaps for his development , but it won’t be first team football there.

He moved because there were lots of his team mates that got a place on the bench last season, was told this season he would definitely get game time but is behind others from last years 18s. Hibs never stood in his way but did ask for a sell on. He might see the b team for rangers as a better platform to show himself than our development team.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Got me thinking as to who would be the last youngster brought through as a forward for Rangers - are we going back as far as McSwegan or Fleck ??

What a poor record that is for them ..

Ross McCormack?

[Hibernian Verse]

Ross McCormack?

Only played 11 league matches for Rangers, mostly off the bench. Scored two goals before joining Motherwell after a loan spell at Doncaster.

[hibsforeurope]

Would be interesting to see a list of the signings since January with the reported fees alongside to get a measure of what we're spending.

January In (1st team signings):
Melkersen - 350-400k
Meuller - Free
Mitchell - undisclosed/free
Clarke - Loan
Rocky - Loan to permanent - 100k
Henderson - Loan to Permanent - Free
Jasper - Loan
Tait - 100k plus sell on


Summer (so far)
Mcgeady - Free
Marshall - Free
Tavares - Free %age of future fee
Kenneh - Free
Miller - ?
Youan - Loan Option to buy
Bojang - Loan Option to buy

Not taking in to account any signing on fees.

[SHODAN]

We're all really bored, aren't we?

[GloryGlory]

January In (1st team signings):
Melkersen - 350-400k
Meuller - Free
Mitchell - Free
Clarke - Loan
Rocky - Loan to permanent - 100k
Henderson - Loan to Permanent - Free
Jasper - Loan
Tait - Free


Summer (so far)
Mcgeady - Free
Marshall - Free
Tavares - Free %age of future fee
Kenneh - Free
Miller - ?
Youan - Loan Option to buy
Bojang - Loan Option to buy

Did we not pay a small fee for Runar Hauge as well?

[B.H.F.C]

Did we not pay a small fee for Runar Hauge as well?

Mitchell as well I think.

[04Sauzee]

January In (1st team signings):
Melkersen - 350-400k
Meuller - Free
Mitchell - Free
Clarke - Loan
Rocky - Loan to permanent - 100k
Henderson - Loan to Permanent - Free
Jasper - Loan
Tait - Free


Summer (so far)
Mcgeady - Free
Marshall - Free
Tavares - Free %age of future fee
Kenneh - Free
Miller - ?
Youan - Loan Option to buy
Bojang - Loan Option to buy

Not taking in to account any signing on fees.

Must have paid a fee for Tait?

[hibsforeurope]

Did we not pay a small fee for Runar Hauge as well?

Think he was a dev signing at the time.

[SMAXXA]

Hibs shouldn’t be doing any business with that lot full stop.

Horrible club

Their money is as good as anyone elses

[hibsforeurope]

Must have paid a fee for Tait?

He was end of contract, possibly a development fee though.

[brog]

He moved because there were lots of his team mates that got a place on the bench last season, was told this season he would definitely get game time but is behind others from last years 18s. Hibs never stood in his way but did ask for a sell on. He might see the b team for rangers as a better platform to show himself than our development team.

If that's the case, and I don't doubt you, it seems a bit daft and premature. Until the last game of the season the only player from the U18s to actually make the pitch was O'Connor, for 9 minutes in a lost cause at Aberdeen. As I posted earlier however it may be that a large sell on fee from Rangers transferring on could earn us more than us selling. If its just Hibs making a tough decision then I'll back their call.

[SMAXXA]

He was end of contract, possibly a development fee though.

We did pay a fee for him

[matty_f]

He was end of contract, possibly a development fee though.

We definitely paid a fee for Tait - they put out a statement at the time saying they’d receive more up front than had been quoted plus a significant sell on.

[hibsforeurope]

We did pay a fee for him

This list is made up from transfer market, as fees are normally undisclosed.

[GordonHFC]

Their money is as good as anyone elses

If they had any.

[04Sauzee]

If they had any.

On the verge of announcing Rabbi Matondo

[CapitalGreen]

He was end of contract, possibly a development fee though.

No he wasn’t.

[hibsforeurope]

We definitely paid a fee for Tait - they put out a statement at the time saying they’d receive more up front than had been quoted plus a significant sell on.

100K plus a sell on and incentive clauses from media reports.

[McGruber]

Is the scenario you describe not the model Brentford use? Something tells me they don’t have a full on youth setup but invest heavily in the teams just below first team.

It works really well for them.

Exactly that yes

Most of the younger players that break through at Hibs are ones picked up from having dropped out or signed from elsewhere a few years earlier

[GordonHFC]

On the verge of announcing Rabbi Matondo

Perhaps he can pray for them?

[GreenCastle]

When do we think we will receive clearance for the 4 work permits?

Tavares - signed 15th June
Youan - signed 25th June
Bojang - 8th June - deal began 1st July
Cabraja - singed in next few days ?

Next few fixtures..

Falkirk away - 12th July
Bonnyrigg - 17th July
Morton - 20th July
Norwich - 24th July

Saints 30th July
Hearts 7th August
Livi 13th August

[Leitherhibs]

When do we think we will receive clearance for the 4 work permits?

Tavares - signed 15th June
Youan - signed 25th June
Bojang - 8th June - deal began 1st July
Cabraja - singed in next few days ?

Next few fixtures..

Falkirk away - 12th July
Bonnyrigg - 17th July
Morton - 20th July
Norwich - 24th July

Saints 30th July
Hearts 7th August
Livi 13th August

Not the most helpful response but I genuinely don't think anyone can answer that with any confidence, my understanding of the current process is that it's a complete mess and almost impossible to estimate when things will move.

[Rijeka fan]

Dinamo got rid of another player on Monday. Marijan Čabraja, the left back, is traveling to Scotland today where, after completing all the formalities, he will sign for Hibernian.
Čabraja came from Gorica a year and a half ago in a package with Darij Špikić, he played 10 games (eight in the HNL and two in the Cup), but last summer he fell out of Dinamo's strong competition with left backs, went on loan to Ferencvaros, while he spent the last part of the season in Olympia. At the end of his loan, he returned to Maksimir, and even though Čačić is now having problems in that position, Čabraja is not in the combinations, it was clear that he will look for a new club.
After certain talks with clubs from Poland, Hibernian appeared, which quickly reached an agreement with Dinamo about the transfer. The Blues have given the green light for Čabraja's permanent departure without compensation, so it is not a loan, and the Scots will pay Dinamo a certain percentage (allegedly as much as 40 percent) of the next transfer. Čabraja will sign a three-year contract.

Translated article

Hi guys.

Marijan Čabraja was one of the best left backs in Croatian League when Dinamo bought him. Personally I was surprised that he did not play more minutes for them, first because he is a good player, second they had problems with that position.

He played on loan for two seasons now outside Croatia so I really couldn't say anything about his current skills, but in time he played for Gorica he was really good. He loves to play forward, he is much better offensively then defensively. In Gorica he played left back in defence 4 in line. But he can easily play wing back in 3-5-2 or similar lineup, for example.

He also had one unfortunate episode while in Dinamo in 2021, Dinamo played against his former club Gorica and Čabraja (unintentionally) broke a leg to his former teamate in Gorica, Joey Suk.

[Hibernian Verse]

Hi guys.

Marijan Čabraja was one of the best left backs in Croatian League when Dinamo bought him. Personally I was surprised that he did not play more minutes for them, first because he is a good player, second they had problems with that position.

He played on loan for two seasons now outside Croatia so I really couldn't say anything about his current skills, but in time he played for Gorica he was really good. He loves to play forward, he is much better offensively then defensively. In Gorica he played left back in defence 4 in line. But he can easily play wing back in 3-5-2 or similar lineup, for example.

He also had one unfortunate episode while in Dinamo in 2021, Dinamo played against his former club Gorica and Čabraja (unintentionally) broke a leg to his former teamate in Gorica, Joey Suk.

Welcome back...how did your season go in the end?

[SHODAN]

Hi guys.

Marijan Čabraja was one of the best left backs in Croatian League when Dinamo bought him. Personally I was surprised that he did not play more minutes for them, first because he is a good player, second they had problems with that position.

He played on loan for two seasons now outside Croatia so I really couldn't say anything about his current skills, but in time he played for Gorica he was really good. He loves to play forward, he is much better offensively then defensively. In Gorica he played left back in defence 4 in line. But he can easily play wing back in 3-5-2 or similar lineup, for example.

He also had one unfortunate episode while in Dinamo in 2021, Dinamo played against his former club Gorica and Čabraja (unintentionally) broke a leg to his former teamate in Gorica, Joey Suk.

Thanks for the info. Sounds like an older Josh Doig tbh.

I see you lost a cup final too!

[green day]

Young McClelland was allowed to leave Rangers and could very well become a nailed on starter for us. Looks the part. These things happen. We're top heavy with strikers and Laidlaw and O'Connor are both ahead of him. Cash and a sell on for Young sounds like a sensible outcome all round.

Yep.

Levein was on the radio on Saturday, and was asked about Josh D leaving Hearts and Hibs now getting a big fee etc.

Obviously Hearts made some errors with that, not getting a sellon etc...............but the biggest thing for the player was that he said they couldnt guarantee Doig would play - and he wanted to play (Hickey, for one, was ahead of him to get game time). So he ultimately didnt get a new deal, and the rest we know.

The other thing Levein said was that Hickey could have gone to Bayern Munich for a larger salary but would have been stuck with their youth team. Having experienced a bit of first team football at Hearts, he went to Italy to continue that and progress his career.

While Levein hasnt spoken to Hickey this time, it seemed clear that he has made this move for footballing reasons too (ok, he will still be on great money, but could have made more to sit on his behind at Arsenal).

Didnt hear the rest as got to pub pre Clyde match :greengrin

I hope Young goes on to have a good career, but (based on what normally happens with Rangers) he will probably leave and go elsewhere in a few years.

[04Sauzee]

Patrick McPartlin reckons the McAllister deal is moving along nicely and looks like it's £120k as apposed to the £250k that was being banded about yesterday.

[yerauldda]

Hanlon linked with a move to Central Coast Mariners on Twitter by a NZ based journalist.

[we are hibs]

Hanlon linked with a move to Central Coast Mariners on Twitter by a NZ based journalist. its a fake account.

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[CapitalGreen]

Hanlon linked with a move to Central Coast Mariners on Twitter by a NZ based journalist.

https://twitter.com/its_shanen/status/1545267574262210560?s=21&t=9gDawwmiD6Wf0idtieDCTQ

[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/its_shanen/status/1545267574262210560?s=21&t=9gDawwmiD6Wf0idtieDCTQ

The most Bizarre tweet 🤣🤣🤣
Tweets that it's close to happening then asks their followers if they think it will happen 😅

[yerauldda]

Silly me..

[Brightside]

The replies to that tweet are everything thats wrong with our "supporters"

[04Sauzee]

Silly me..

Not at all

[04Sauzee]

Lewis Ferguson confirmed to Bologna.

[SMAXXA]

Lewis Ferguson confirmed to Bologna.

Doig next, tonight or tomorrow I’d think. Fair play to these lads moving abroad must have looked at the likes of Henderson and hickey and fancied a bit of that

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lewis Ferguson confirmed to Bologna.

Glad he’s away.

Good player and losing 16 goals from midfield will be a void they won’t come close to filling

[Rick Rude]

Glad he’s away.

Good player and losing 16 goals from midfield will be a void they won’t come close to filling

TBF, long as they have someone good at taking penalties that'll be most of the 16 covered but aye, a good player I'm glad we will no longer face.

[Rijeka fan]

Welcome back...how did your season go in the end?

Just passing by...:wink:

Not so disappointing as Yours, but at the end it could be much better. Finished 4th in championship, lost cup finals against biggest rival, Hajduk Split. Lost breath in final 2 months of season.

Currently again in rebuilding, new coach, bunch of new players, same s... every year.

Playing against Swedish Djurgarden in Conference League, 21/28.07.

[Hibernian Verse]

Just passing by...:wink:

Not so disappointing as Yours, but at the end it could be much better. Finished 4th in championship, lost cup finals against biggest rival, Hajduk Split. Lost breath in final 2 months of season.

Currently again in rebuilding, new coach, bunch of new players, same s... every year.

Playing against Swedish Djurgarden in Conference League, 21/28.07.

At least you're back in the Conference League. As you say, ours was very disappointing!

[badabing67]

Off topic is this game tonight available to stream tonight.

[Hibbyradge]

Off topic is this game tonight available to stream tonight.

It's live on Premier Sports 1.

[badabing67]

It's live on Premier Sports 1.


Cheers :aok:

[04Sauzee]

Boli Bolingoli joins Mechelen from Celtic.

[theonlywayisup]

Any word on any more signings for us?

[Big_Franck]

It's live on Premier Sports 1.

Is it also live on Hibs TV for international viewers does anyone know? It's not clear from the Hibs TV site when I look.

[flash]

Josh Doig 4 year deal according to Sky Sports.

[GloryGlory]

Josh Doig 4 year deal according to Sky Sports.

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12476234/transfer-centre-live-tuchel-big-admirer-of-ronaldo-neymar-move-a-long-shot

[Heisenberg]

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12476234/transfer-centre-live-tuchel-big-admirer-of-ronaldo-neymar-move-a-long-shot

More than £3m plus add ons. Decent deal.

[weecounty hibby]

Brilliant for both Hibs and Josh. Really Hooe he makes a success out of the move

[JohnM1875]

Brilliant for both Hibs and Josh. Really Hooe he makes a success out of the move

Same, I really like the way he carries himself. Just seems like a really good guy. Wish him all the success in the world.

[HendoDelivered]

The annoying thing about the Croatian lad is if we sign him, we’re gonna need to wait ages on a work permit!

[Wilson]

The annoying thing about the Croatian lad is if we sign him, we’re gonna need to wait ages on a work permit!

If he's worth the wait then you wait.

[HendoDelivered]

If he's worth the wait then you wait.

Of course! I’ve a feeling he will be as well.

[SHODAN]

If he's worth the wait then you wait.

Stevenson will do just fine in the meantime.

[flash]

Stevenson will do just fine in the meantime.

He won't really though will he.

[Nicho87]

Where is the Boyle money and now the Doig money.

Aspirations for a good season, needs some of it being spent

Centre half
Left back
2 x central midfielders.

[Heisenberg]

Where is the Boyle money and now the Doig money.

Aspirations for a good season, needs some of it being spent

Centre half
Left back
2 x central midfielders.

We’ll need to ship out some of the very poor central midfielders we have first before signing more.

[HendoDelivered]

Where is the Boyle money and now the Doig money.

Aspirations for a good season, needs some of it being spent

Centre half
Left back
2 x central midfielders.

Agree.

Seemingly we were/are close to getting a CB and the Croatian lad looks to be coming in as our new LB.

[Nicho87]

We’ll need to ship out some of the very poor central midfielders we have first before signing more.

I’d move on Campbell out on loan and JDH, Newell for me is the only I’d keep if forced.

[Hibs90]

In dire need of quality midfielders.

[J-C]

I’d move on Campbell out on loan and JDH, Newell for me is the only I’d keep if forced.


Not on tonight's showing, pish.

[WhileTheChief..]

In dire need of quality midfielders.

We've been saying that since we sold McGinn :greengrin

Unfortunately nobody at the club has noticed.

[Hibs90]

We've been saying that since we sold McGinn :greengrin

Unfortunately nobody at the club has noticed.

Which is mental when you consider the amount of players signed, the managers come and gone.

We just seem to be pinning our hopes on Magennis being fit.

[Scottie]

I’d move on Campbell out on loan and JDH, Newell for me is the only I’d keep if forced.
Newell should be the 1st away imo. Offers nothing of importance. Flatters to deceive every game.

[Stuart93]

Hopefully we use some of the Doig money to address this midfield. Absolutely terrible tonight

[mcfly]

We’ve brought In £5 million on 2 players.

Time to spend it on a quality centre back and a couple of midfielders cause those 3 in the middle are nae good.

Awful tonight

[Paulie Walnuts]

Where is the Boyle money and now the Doig money.

Aspirations for a good season, needs some of it being spent

Centre half
Left back
2 x central midfielders.

Absolutely. The centre mids are a priority. Our midfield is an abomination and trying to fix it with a guy who’s never played first team football is ****ing scandalous.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We’ll need to ship out some of the very poor central midfielders we have first before signing more.

We need to sign new ones whether we move the current ones on or not.

Not being able to move them on is in no way an acceptable excuse for going into yet another season with a terrible midfield.

The fact Joe Newell could break 150 appearances for Hibs this season is a sin. An atrocious bottle merchant of a footballer.

[Scotty Leither]

Where is the Boyle money and now the Doig money.

Aspirations for a good season, needs some of it being spent

Centre half
Left back
2 x central midfielders.

We seem to be averse to spending TRANSFER FEES on players. This Croatian guy is in on a free. The Aussie guy at right back (who showed nothing tonight and was exposed time and again) was signed for nothing, notwithstanding we matched or bettered the deal he was offered by a team that’s been in existence for barely 5 years.

The fans aren’t stupid, £5/6m incoming transfer fees, 11k season tickets, hospitality packages selling well, and yet we still have the same pedestrian midfield from last season, yet the tombola signing policy of hoping one of the clutch of untried players come good still persists?

Question to Ron and Ian, are we actually going to spend some money on a creative midfielder?

[Stuart93]

We need to spend some money on real midfield quality cause it’s nowhere near good enough

[xqnq1875]

Surely another midfielder in, newell, Jdh and Campbell all not good enough


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[Unseen work]

Youan, Tavares, McGeady, Kenneh, Bojang and Cabraja need to be good and hit the ground running.

We also need to add more known quality who don’t need time to adapt imo.

That said we just lost to a team with Sean Mackie and Stephen McGinn. To me that’s an attitude/application problem as we have the better players but were made to look like amateurs tonight.

[Chorley Hibee]

We're still 5/6 short, and by short I mean experienced first team players, not teenagers for the ******ing development team!

No doubt we'll sign another teenager before the week is out though.

A left back, centre half, 2 x centre midfielders and a striker just to start with, but I'm not convinced we'll see anything like that.

[hhibs]

I’d move on Campbell out on loan and JDH, Newell for me is the only I’d keep if forced.


Newell ,first out the door. !!

High wage, low performance ,and, I am being VERY kind.

[madhatter]

Thought Rocky was one of our better players tonight. Hopefully he keeps it going and gets some more composure. We need a CB though as balance is off without Hanlon there.

Midfield were too deep for most of the match and give little to no creativity or guile. Need to get a midfielder in.

[Unseen work]

Thought Rocky was one of our better players tonight. Hopefully he keeps it going and gets some more composure. We need a CB though as balance is off without Hanlon there.

Midfield were too deep for most of the match and give little to no creativity or guile. Need to get a midfielder in.

I thought Rocky was absolutely brutal first half when the pressure was on.

Always easier second half when the team winning sits off and he has time

[chippy]

It’s all about central midfield. Need 2 quality players in there with experience , not injury prone and has a track record at a good level . We were supposedly in for Connor McGrandles a couple of months ago. Perhaps LJ seeing how crap his midfielders were and how tough the game is up here , maybe we’ll go back in for him

[Stuart93]

To me it continues to look like it’s cheap options every single time.

[thebausburst]

Thought Rocky was one of our better players tonight. Hopefully he keeps it going and gets some more composure. We need a CB though as balance is off without Hanlon there.

Midfield were too deep for most of the match and give little to no creativity or guile. Need to get a midfielder in.

Take it you’re being ironic, Rocky was absolutely shocking, the guy is nowhere near good enough that is clear to all of us surely.

[overdrive]

I thought we signed Miller on a permanent deal. The commentator on Premier Sport said he was on loan. I assume he was talking gash!

[Dazzjw1875]

Just back from the game was dreadful.. I reckon we need another CB and a playmaker 100%

[Since452]

Thought Rocky was one of our better players tonight. Hopefully he keeps it going and gets some more composure. We need a CB though as balance is off without Hanlon there.

Midfield were too deep for most of the match and give little to no creativity or guile. Need to get a midfielder in.

Thought he was everywhere tonight. Far from our worst player. That accolade is between Porteous, Stevenson and Campbell. Dabrowski was pretty hopeless too.

[Logie Green]

We seem to be averse to spending TRANSFER FEES on players. This Croatian guy is in on a free. The Aussie guy at right back (who showed nothing tonight and was exposed time and again) was signed for nothing, notwithstanding we matched or bettered the deal he was offered by a team that’s been in existence for barely 5 years.

The fans aren’t stupid, £5/6m incoming transfer fees, 11k season tickets, hospitality packages selling well, and yet we still have the same pedestrian midfield from last season, yet the tombola signing policy of hoping one of the clutch of untried players come good still persists?

Question to Ron and Ian, are we actually going to spend some money on a creative midfielder?

To be fair to the board we did spend £150k on Bushiri, if the rumours are true. 😜

[NC1875]

I’d move on Campbell out on loan and JDH, Newell for me is the only I’d keep if forced.

Surely not ? He’s terrible and should be one of the first out the door.

Poser who swans about thinking he’s a footballer

[JimBHibees]

Midfield looked ok first half on Saturday when Newell wasn't playing.

[H18 SFR]

Johnson did say right in his first interview it will take 4 or more transfer windows to get the squad where he wants it.

I had hoped that would be an overreaction from him but tonight shows he is right.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i think Newell/JDH/Campbell will still be our midfield in 2030

they will finally lose their places to 8 year olds getting signed for our "B","C","D" and 14 development sides

[Scotty Leither]

Johnson did say right in his first interview it will take 4 or more transfer windows to get the squad where he wants it.

I had hoped that would be an overreaction from him but tonight shows he is right.

FFS - we’re not in for more “transition” are we?

That’s on a par with Petrie’s mythical 5-year plan.

[Stuart93]

If we don’t bring another midfielder in, who we’ve spent a bit cash on and he’s already a half decent level, we’re in trouble

[Heisenberg]

If we don’t bring another midfielder in, who we’ve spent a bit cash on and he’s already a half decent level, we’re in trouble

Id say the same about a centre half too. We are badly lacking quality in both positions.

[Unseen work]

Bang on the posts about a centre back and centre mid. Real quality and can go straight in, no setting in period.

We know we’ll bring in a centre half.

Surely we can’t rely on Kenneh all season in centre mid though to play the deepest role? We’ve seen tonight (and all last season) that JDH, Newell and Campbell doesn’t work and none can play the 6 role.

We need someone else in there too.

Competition with Henderson for the ‘10’ position too, need someone that can beat a man and play a through ball in that position.

Essentially the core.

Oh and we badly need a right winger.

Busy summer ahead 😅

[xqnq1875]

If Campbell isn’t moved on this summer it’s a disgrace, what do these managers keep seeing in him he was an utter ****ing disgrace today


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[Crab apple]

Bang on the posts about a centre back and centre mid. Real quality and can go straight in, no setting in period.

We know we’ll bring in a centre half.

Surely we can’t rely on Kenneh all season in centre mid though to play the deepest role? We’ve seen tonight (and all last season) that JDH, Newell and Campbell doesn’t work and none can play the 6 role.

We need someone else in there too.

Competition with Henderson for the ‘10’ position too, need someone that can beat a man and play a through ball in that position.

Essentially the core.

Oh and we badly need a right winger.

Busy summer ahead 😅

Agree with all of this. No idea who the centre half will be. Boyle will be back as the right winger. We badly need another Scott Allan type as the midfield is crying out for drive and creativity.

[bigwheel]

Agree with all of this. No idea who the centre half will be. Boyle will be back as the right winger. We badly need another Scott Allan type as the midfield is crying out for drive and creativity.

Boyle will be back ??? Is this actually going to happen…..


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[Iain G]

Bang on the posts about a centre back and centre mid. Real quality and can go straight in, no setting in period.

We know we’ll bring in a centre half.

Surely we can’t rely on Kenneh all season in centre mid though to play the deepest role? We’ve seen tonight (and all last season) that JDH, Newell and Campbell doesn’t work and none can play the 6 role.

We need someone else in there too.

Competition with Henderson for the ‘10’ position too, need someone that can beat a man and play a through ball in that position.

Essentially the core.

Oh and we badly need a right winger.

Busy summer ahead 😅

I thought Jair was our right winger?

[SMAXXA]

We seem to be averse to spending TRANSFER FEES on players. This Croatian guy is in on a free. The Aussie guy at right back (who showed nothing tonight and was exposed time and again) was signed for nothing, notwithstanding we matched or bettered the deal he was offered by a team that’s been in existence for barely 5 years.

The fans aren’t stupid, £5/6m incoming transfer fees, 11k season tickets, hospitality packages selling well, and yet we still have the same pedestrian midfield from last season, yet the tombola signing policy of hoping one of the clutch of untried players come good still persists?

Question to Ron and Ian, are we actually going to spend some money on a creative midfielder?

We paid a fee for miller he wasn’t a free

[SMAXXA]

We're still 5/6 short, and by short I mean experienced first team players, not teenagers for the ******ing development team!

No doubt we'll sign another teenager before the week is out though.

A left back, centre half, 2 x centre midfielders and a striker just to start with, but I'm not convinced we'll see anything like that.

Well you arnt going to get 5/6 players in before the window thats for sure

[matty_f]

We paid a fee for miller he wasn’t a free

It doesn't matter. It's easier to pretend that we didn't so we can complain more about it. It's also infuriating that we've not spent the Doig money from a transfer that is yet to be confirmed.

[SMAXXA]

It doesn't matter. It's easier to pretend that we didn't so we can complain more about it. It's also infuriating that we've not spent the Doig money from a transfer that is yet to be confirmed.

Yeah pretty much where I’m at, tiresome some folk are at times

[Haymaker]

I mean... we could have Griffiths up front. Wouldn't have lost the game tonight with him leading the line.

[huggie1875]

I mean... we could have Griffiths up front. Wouldn't have lost the game tonight with him leading the line.


i really hope you're being sarcastic

[MWHIBBIES]

Stevenson will do just fine in the meantime.

He really will not. Lewis is my absolute favorite ever Hibs player. Last night he was a massive hindrance to us. We need a left back who can beat a man and pass it forward. Lewis is so easily forced backwards, killing all momentum.

[Since452]

He really will not. Lewis is my absolute favorite ever Hibs player. Last night he was a massive hindrance to us. We need a left back who can beat a man and pass it forward. Lewis is so easily forced backwards, killing all momentum.

He was dreadful last night. Brilliant servant but not what we need now.

[SMAXXA]

He was dreadful last night. Brilliant servant but not what we need now.

Isn’t it possible for him to be good and have bad games or does a bad game constitute not being good enough at all now a days?

[HairyMM]

He really will not. Lewis is my absolute favorite ever Hibs player. Last night he was a massive hindrance to us. We need a left back who can beat a man and pass it forward. Lewis is so easily forced backwards, killing all momentum.

He had an absolute shocker last night but wasn’t alone…..quite telling when your own teammates don’t pass to the captain when he was repeatedly unmarked and in acres of space 😡

[MWHIBBIES]

He had an absolute shocker last night but wasn’t alone…..quite telling when your own teammates don’t pass to the captain when he was repeatedly unmarked and in acres of space 😡

Lewis just isn't good on the ball. It was genuinely better not passing it to him. The difference between him and cadden is huge. Chris can beat a man and run in behind. Takes the ball on the move and gets it forward. Lewis just can't anymore.

[truehibernian]

Lewis just isn't good on the ball. It was genuinely better not passing it to him. The difference between him and cadden is huge. Chris can beat a man and run in behind. Takes the ball on the move and gets it forward. Lewis just can't anymore.

Helps when Newell isn’t walking round the pitch like he’s on the golf course, and Doyle Hayes and Campbell aren’t playing so far apart they need mediation !!

Lewis was poor admittedly but he had no one to play up to other than a well marked McGeady - that midfield is horrific, and unless sorted now, we are bottom 6 easily. Top teans will simply maul and engulf that kind of midfield - no zip, no drive, no hunger and no creativity - flat, square, immobile, and lacking quality,

[blackpoolhibs]

There was one moment in the 2nd half that tells you everything thats wrong with Hibs, last season and it appears now too.

Newell had the ball in the middle of the park in space, Lewis was making a run wide on the left in plenty of space, Newell had a look, looked again and rolled the ball out to him behind him.

I screamed at the tv, you ****in waste of space, the ball should have been pinged into the space in front of Lewis so he could start a wide attack running on to a forward ball.

Newells stats will look brilliant, 90% ball retention, maybe even more, but he does the square root of nothing, a bloody show pony who's main aim in the team is to do bugger all but make the easy pass.

He was not the only culprit last night, we've 3 others who are absolute pish and should never play 1st team football at this standard, but Newell has been doing the same sheite since he arrived at the club, and half a dozen good games are nowhere near enough to spare him the critisicm, and he needs replaced now.

[GreenCastle]

Few problems against Falkirk which other teams scouting Hibs last night will have noticed.

They pressed high - unless we sign another CB and some wing backs who drive forward or can distribute longer passes it’s all too predictable at the back. Kev is shaky with the ball at his feet.

Central midfield - unless we sign some players who can receive in tight spaces and play forward teams will push up and over run over midfield. Our midfield press is woeful too. They can’t tackle and have a bad habit of pretending to jockey.

Central striker - Doidge isn’t fast - teams know this and will push high. We need more speed and forward thinking players in the team.

One paced - safe - predictable players will get us Maloney level performances again.

[SMAXXA]

Few problems against Falkirk which other teams scouting Hibs last night will have noticed.

They pressed high - unless we sign another CB and some wing backs who drive forward or can distribute longer passes it’s all too predictable at the back. Kev is shaky with the ball at his feet.

Central midfield - unless we sign some players who can receive in tight spaces and play forward teams will push up and over run over midfield. Our midfield press is woeful too. They can’t tackle and have a bad habit of pretending to jockey.

Central striker - Doidge isn’t fast - teams know this and will push high. We need more speed and forward thinking players in the team.

One paced - safe - predictable players will get us Maloney level performances again.

Re the latter comments:

Nisbet
McGeady
Bojang
Travares
Magennis
Youan

[truehibernian]

Re the latter comments:

Nisbet
McGeady
Bojang
Travares
Magennis
Youan

Question mate, would you keep any of the three in midfield last night ?

Yes, players are out, but a Hibs side should not be getting outplayed and outfought by a League One side - posts after last night aren’t just an over reaction, they’re a continuation of what we saw repeatedly last season and arguably before that - how any manager coming in can’t have seen that the trio selected cannot work in any shape or form is hugely worrying for me.

Campbell should not be anywhere near a Hibs starting side, sorry.

[JammyDoidger]

There was one moment in the 2nd half that tells you everything thats wrong with Hibs, last season and it appears now too.

Newell had the ball in the middle of the park in space, Lewis was making a run wide on the left in plenty of space, Newell had a look, looked again and rolled the ball out to him behind him.

I screamed at the tv, you ****in waste of space, the ball should have been pinged into the space in front of Lewis so he could start a wide attack running on to a forward ball.

Newells stats will look brilliant, 90% ball retention, maybe even more, but he does the square root of nothing, a bloody show pony who's main aim in the team is to do bugger all but make the easy pass.

He was not the only culprit last night, we've 3 others who are absolute pish and should never play 1st team football at this standard, but Newell has been doing the same sheite since he arrived at the club, and half a dozen good games are nowhere near enough to spare him the critisicm, and he needs replaced now.

One thing I've noticed a lot with Newell is he takes the ball from the defenders and instead of turning and driving forward he plays the ball straight back to the defender it came from, even when no one is closing him down, painful watch.

[SMAXXA]

Question mate, would you keep any of the three in midfield last night ?

Yes, players are out, but a Hibs side should not be getting outplayed and outfought by a League One side - posts after last night aren’t just an over reaction, they’re a continuation of what we saw repeatedly last season and arguably before that - how any manager coming in can’t have seen that the trio selected cannot work in any shape or form is hugely worrying for me.

Campbell should not be anywhere near a Hibs starting side, sorry.

Honestly mate, yeah if keep newell and JDH, not saying them combined are the answer but I think they are decent players just need the right players around them as both based on time at Hibs so far are pretty conservative and don’t offer enough in an attacking sense for me.

We will bring in better players but with 10 in so far, I’m not convinced we will see the 5/6 more some seem to suggest we need.

Campbell I’m no a massive fan of tbh

[Paulie Walnuts]

One thing I've noticed a lot with Newell is he takes the ball from the defenders and instead of turning and driving forward he plays the ball straight back to the defender it came from, even when no one is closing him down, painful watch.

It gets his stats up which is all that really seems to matter. We’ve even had people dragging the stats up on here as a reason that JDH, Campbell and Newell will be reborn under LJ. They won’t be. They’re crap.

The 3 in midfield last night are all miles below the standard required. Our only addition to the centre of midfield from last season is a laddie who has never played first team football before and from what I’ve seen so far, albeit it’s still very early, doesn’t look like he’s going to single handedly improve it. It’s a huge concern and without another signing or 2 in there (and/or Magennis ever being available) then we’ll be a bottom 6 side again this year. It’s probably the worst midfield in the league.

[Steve88]

Hibs look to betting KM will be fit all this season which is concerning..

Didn't pay off too well last season that bet

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hibs look to betting KM will be fit all this season which is concerning..

Didn't pay off too well last season that bet

The minute it became apparent KM wasn’t going to be fit for pre season we should have been looking to replace him with a similar player.

[GreenCastle]

Re the latter comments:

Nisbet
McGeady
Bojang
Travares
Magennis
Youan

Nisbet - yes but not back for a while - season could be over by then.
McGeady - he’s out most dangerous player.

Bojang - no idea and hard to get hopes up expect hoping he’s Ivan Sproule.

Traveres - looks tricky - again needs to see against better players.

Magennis - love the guy but I if he ever plays again for us it’s a bonus.

Youan - like the look of him and will add a different threat.

Still shows my point..

CB
X3 central midfielders - but would be happy with 2.

I think the rest of the team will be ok if we add the Croatian left back.

If LJ has any sense he will be finding CM today to sign.

[Nicho87]

Anyone pinning hopes on Magennis I’d be worried

There has to come a point where hibs can’t just keep paying a bit wages for keeping the medical staff busy

Started of superb last season

But we are still too nice a club

Extensions of contracts to players who score a goal etc

Ridiculous - grow a pair hibs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Anyone pinning hopes on Magennis I’d be worried

There has to come a point where hibs can’t just keep paying a bit wages for keeping the medical staff busy

Started of superb last season

But we are still too nice a club

Extensions of contracts to players who score a goal etc

Ridiculous - grow a pair hibs.

To be fair we have to pay him until someone else takes him off us or his contract expires.

We need to accept though that he’s not worth counting on as being one of our centre midfield options. Likewise we need to accept JDH, Newell and Campbell aren’t good enough and we need to get players in that are good enough. If that means we’re overstocked with midfielders then so be it. We can’t just carry on with the utter dross we have in that position simply because we were stupid enough to give them all long term deals or else we’ll end up relegated.

[Bostonhibby]

There was one moment in the 2nd half that tells you everything thats wrong with Hibs, last season and it appears now too.

Newell had the ball in the middle of the park in space, Lewis was making a run wide on the left in plenty of space, Newell had a look, looked again and rolled the ball out to him behind him.

I screamed at the tv, you ****in waste of space, the ball should have been pinged into the space in front of Lewis so he could start a wide attack running on to a forward ball.

Newells stats will look brilliant, 90% ball retention, maybe even more, but he does the square root of nothing, a bloody show pony who's main aim in the team is to do bugger all but make the easy pass.

He was not the only culprit last night, we've 3 others who are absolute pish and should never play 1st team football at this standard, but Newell has been doing the same sheite since he arrived at the club, and half a dozen good games are nowhere near enough to spare him the critisicm, and he needs replaced now.A summary of the Newell enigma that I totally agree with, I've been for and against him, which maybe tells it's own story about his performances given how long he has been a regular pick.

On what I witnessed last night, I'm with you.That midfield combination has been exposed as nowhere near good enough a while ago and I don't think the manager emerges from the team selection and performance very well either, hopefully he decided to find out for himself and the experience is now over.



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[Aldo]

One thing I've noticed a lot with Newell is he takes the ball from the defenders and instead of turning and driving forward he plays the ball straight back to the defender it came from, even when no one is closing him down, painful watch.

He does it all the time but watch him once he’s played it, he’s static, doesn’t move or give the receiving player an option putting pressure in them but his retention stats (as others have mentioned) are high!

We are again all talking about the MF trio and we can all see it doesn’t work but will LJ persist with them.


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[B.H.F.C]

There was one moment in the 2nd half that tells you everything thats wrong with Hibs, last season and it appears now too.

Newell had the ball in the middle of the park in space, Lewis was making a run wide on the left in plenty of space, Newell had a look, looked again and rolled the ball out to him behind him.

I screamed at the tv, you ****in waste of space, the ball should have been pinged into the space in front of Lewis so he could start a wide attack running on to a forward ball.

Newells stats will look brilliant, 90% ball retention, maybe even more, but he does the square root of nothing, a bloody show pony who's main aim in the team is to do bugger all but make the easy pass.

He was not the only culprit last night, we've 3 others who are absolute pish and should never play 1st team football at this standard, but Newell has been doing the same sheite since he arrived at the club, and half a dozen good games are nowhere near enough to spare him the critisicm, and he needs replaced now.

There was a moment last night which sums Newell up, for me, right at the end.

Falkirk goalie was standing on the ball waiting to pick it up. Newell sprints 30 yards towards him. It’s one of those things where it makes it look like he’s really trying when he basically spent the previous 93 minutes floating around doing exactly what we saw for most of last season.

I can’t believe we’ve not done more to address that area of the park. Hopefully last night has shown Johnson exactly what he is working with in there and we do something about it now.

[superfurryhibby]

Re the latter comments:

Nisbet
McGeady
Bojang
Travares
Magennis
Youan

Nisbet is injured and is unlikely to play much of a part, if any, this year.

McGeady, has quality but is an old man in football terms. He was pish last night, against a 1st division side.

Who really knows about Bojang, Tavares or Youan? I would hope we aren't pinning hopes on them, all totally untested as yet.

Magennis is permanently injured and is as likely to remain so as he is to come in and transform our midfield.

Bottom line is that we played the same failed midfield as had us on our knees last season, that is a ****ing disgrace. I have said all along that we need more first team ready players, it's about time the club backed the manager and matched the commitment of the fans by bringing in proven quality. We need x2 central midfielders, a striker, left back and a centre half.

Time for the Gordon to spend money on first team ready players.

[Allant1981]

Anyone pinning hopes on Magennis I’d be worried

There has to come a point where hibs can’t just keep paying a bit wages for keeping the medical staff busy

Started of superb last season

But we are still too nice a club

Extensions of contracts to players who score a goal etc

Ridiculous - grow a pair hibs.

To nice a club? He has a contract so you either pay him off or keep him, either way you are paying him

[PaulSmith]

Anyone pinning hopes on Magennis I’d be worried

There has to come a point where hibs can’t just keep paying a bit wages for keeping the medical staff busy

Started of superb last season

But we are still too nice a club

Extensions of contracts to players who score a goal etc

Ridiculous - grow a pair hibs.

He seems to be quite enjoying his trips to Dubai, Las Vegas, Ibiza and the likes with a couple of his non playing rich mates. Maybe he fancies a bit of that for the remainder of his three years left at the club. Who knows but can’t say that I’m seeing anything that suggests he’s busting a gut to get back.

[flash]

He seems to be quite enjoying his trips to Dubai, Las Vegas, Ibiza and the likes with a couple of his non playing rich mates. Maybe he fancies a bit of that for the remainder of his three years left at the club. Who knows but can’t say that I’m seeing anything that suggests he’s busting a gut to get back.

Do we actually know what's wrong with him? I can't remember ever being told.

[bigwheel]

He seems to be quite enjoying his trips to Dubai, Las Vegas, Ibiza and the likes with a couple of his non playing rich mates. Maybe he fancies a bit of that for the remainder of his three years left at the club. Who knows but can’t say that I’m seeing anything that suggests he’s busting a gut to get back.

These post make me laugh - Do you think you have any real awareness of what his rehab approach is ?


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[Paulie Walnuts]

Do we actually know what's wrong with him? I can't remember ever being told.

He had surgery for a knee injury around the end of March. That’s the last we’ve heard I think.

[scoopyboy]

He seems to be quite enjoying his trips to Dubai, Las Vegas, Ibiza and the likes with a couple of his non playing rich mates. Maybe he fancies a bit of that for the remainder of his three years left at the club. Who knows but can’t say that I’m seeing anything that suggests he’s busting a gut to get back.

Quite disrespectful PS, not like you to be fair.

Magennis is working very hard to get back playing, he has to follow instructions and not rushed back as has happened with him and other Hibs players recently.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Quite disrespectful PS, not like you to be fair.

Magennis is working very hard to get back playing, he has to follow instructions and not rushed back as has happened with him and other Hibs players recently.

You any idea when he’s expected back Scoopyboy?

If PS is correct and he’s spent all summer in Vegas, Dubai and Ibiza with his mates then I’m not sure that is all that professional tbh. Fair enough it’s his summer but I’m not sure he’ll be getting all he can out of his rehab on 3 lads holidays. 1 is fair enough but 3 really just seems like someone who has downed tools for the summer - something which is a bit more acceptable if you’re going to come back ready to be involved for pre season.

[flash]

He had surgery for a knee injury around the end of March. That’s the last we’ve heard I think.

Cheers.

[Scotty Leither]

If LJ has any sense he will be finding CM today to sign.[/QUOTE]

Nah, we’ve got until quarter to 12 on the last day of the transfer window to address that, when we’ll bring in a League One loanee from England.

[flash]

Nah, we’ve got until quarter to 12 on the last day of the transfer window to address that, when we’ll bring in a League One loanee from England.

Take a day off ffs.

[SlickShoes]

Anyone pinning hopes on Magennis I’d be worried

There has to come a point where hibs can’t just keep paying a bit wages for keeping the medical staff busy

Started of superb last season

But we are still too nice a club

Extensions of contracts to players who score a goal etc

Ridiculous - grow a pair hibs.

This line of thinking is absolutely insane. Hibs can afford to pay their staff that are under contract whether they are injured or not, Kyle deserves his money, as does everyone else that has long term illness or difficult conditions. Your mindset seems to be to cast anyone aside that is not "healthy" and just forget about them and as a human that is disgusting.

[SlickShoes]

He seems to be quite enjoying his trips to Dubai, Las Vegas, Ibiza and the likes with a couple of his non playing rich mates. Maybe he fancies a bit of that for the remainder of his three years left at the club. Who knows but can’t say that I’m seeing anything that suggests he’s busting a gut to get back.

Imagine trying to enjoy your life, what a misery.

[GloryGlory]

Is Doig officially away? He's been in Italy for a few days now.

[SlickShoes]

You any idea when he’s expected back Scoopyboy?

If PS is correct and he’s spent all summer in Vegas, Dubai and Ibiza with his mates then I’m not sure that is all that professional tbh. Fair enough it’s his summer but I’m not sure he’ll be getting all he can out of his rehab on 3 lads holidays. 1 is fair enough but 3 really just seems like someone who has downed tools for the summer - something which is a bit more acceptable if you’re going to come back ready to be involved for pre season.

He can go wherever he likes on holiday, there is honestly no pleasing some hibs fans, should he be chained to a rehab room and not allowed to leave until he is match fit?

[Wilson]

The players available last night are good enough to beat Falkirk. The manager and the available players have to hold their hands up. That was a poor night when we're trying to get a bit of positivity going.

There is no point blaming injured players for not being available. The fit players should have been good enough on the night and were not.

[Heisenberg]

Is Doig officially away? He's been in Italy for a few days now.

Not been announced yet but Sky were reporting it as done yesterday on a four year deal. Imagine it’ll be confirmed today.

Hope we reinvest a good bit back into the squad.

[GloryGlory]

Not been announced yet but Sky were reporting it as done yesterday on a four year deal. Imagine it’ll be confirmed today.

Hope we reinvest a good bit back into the squad.

Need to have a good look at using this money to bring in better quality, especially in midfield. But bolstering the defence and strikers with some quality wouldn't go amiss either.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He can go wherever he likes on holiday, there is honestly no pleasing some hibs fans, should he be chained to a rehab room and not allowed to leave until he is match fit?

He can indeed go wherever he wants, I never said he couldn’t.

I also didn’t say he couldn’t go on holiday.

You crack on though.

[GloryGlory]

The players available last night are good enough to beat Falkirk. The manager and the available players have to hold their hands up. That was a poor night when we're trying to get a bit of positivity going.

There is no point blaming injured players for not being available. The fit players should have been good enough on the night and were not.

Part of the issue is 1) the timing of the LC qualifying sections and 2) "bigger" teams seeing it as part of pre season prep and falling into the trap of underestimating opponents and chopping and changing the team to give everyone minutes on the park to try out systems and combinations. Somehow you need to square the circle of having the team ready for competitive football at the start of the LC qualifying, not at the end. Maybe some closed doors games for the squad players who don't play much part and putting a more or less settled team on the park for the LC?

I should add - failure to qualify is likely to be a considerable hit on the budget.

[Heisenberg]

Josh announced at Verona now.

https://twitter.com/hellasveronafc/status/1547137791640870912?s=21&t=Nj6srB_adcOaZcYI3aCknw

Apparently going to be on 15k a week. Great deal for him.

[Just_Jimmy]

There was one moment in the 2nd half that tells you everything thats wrong with Hibs, last season and it appears now too.

Newell had the ball in the middle of the park in space, Lewis was making a run wide on the left in plenty of space, Newell had a look, looked again and rolled the ball out to him behind him.

I screamed at the tv, you ****in waste of space, the ball should have been pinged into the space in front of Lewis so he could start a wide attack running on to a forward ball.

Newells stats will look brilliant, 90% ball retention, maybe even more, but he does the square root of nothing, a bloody show pony who's main aim in the team is to do bugger all but make the easy pass.

He was not the only culprit last night, we've 3 others who are absolute pish and should never play 1st team football at this standard, but Newell has been doing the same sheite since he arrived at the club, and half a dozen good games are nowhere near enough to spare him the critisicm, and he needs replaced now.I got slated on here a while back when everyone was banging on about him being brilliant, because I said he was like "the emperors new clothes".

He's bang average. He'll look brilliant with good players around him. He's not good enough to make other average or pish players look good.

Doyle Hayes is another who is bang average.

Campbell is utter dross.

We've signed 10 players and none of them are for the real problem position in this team - centre of the park. Until that's addressed then nothing will improve long term.

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[Heisenberg]

I got slated on here a while back when everyone was banging on about him being brilliant, because I said he was like "the emperors new clothes".

He's bang average. He'll look brilliant with good players around him. He's not good enough to make other average or pish players look good.

Doyle Hayes is another who is bang average.

Campbell is utter dross.

We've signed 10 players and none of them are for the real problem position in this team - centre of the park. Until that's addressed then nothing will improve long term.

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Kenneh was signed to help sort the problem and he somehow didn’t get a game last night. Baffling. We definitely need at least one more in there and for Campbell to go out on loan.

[Just_Jimmy]

Josh announced at Verona now.

https://twitter.com/hellasveronafc/status/1547137791640870912?s=21&t=Nj6srB_adcOaZcYI3aCknw

Apparently going to be on 15k a week. Great deal for him.That top is really nice.

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[GreenPJ]

Part of the issue is 1) the timing of the LC qualifying sections and 2) "bigger" teams seeing it as part of pre season prep and falling into the trap of underestimating opponents and chopping and changing the team to give everyone minutes on the park to try out systems and combinations. Somehow you need to square the circle of having the team ready for competitive football at the start of the LC qualifying, not at the end. Maybe some closed doors games for the squad players who don't play much part and putting a more or less settled team on the park for the LC?

I should add - failure to qualify is likely to be a considerable hit on the budget.

Do you honestly believe we won't qualify? I think the LC group stages coming so early into pre-season means you have to rotate the squad to get people game time and for a new manager to see what is and isn't working. The only objective is to qualify, if we do that with a couple of poor performances but allows fitness and manger to see stuff then then I can live with that.

[JohnM1875]

Kenneh was signed to help sort the problem and he somehow didn’t get a game last night. Baffling. We definitely need at least one more in there and for Campbell to go out on loan.

Kenneh didn't get a start but he came on with about five minutes to go and it was his cross that Melkersen glanced onto the post. Should have started along with Hendo.