Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[Unseen work]

Ross supposedly close to the Dundee United job.

Wonder if he’d come in for any of our players like Doidge or McGinn.

[Dalianwanda]

Attackers are welcome.

However unless we fix the middle of the park with another addition or two I feel you will see the same struggles.

IMHO

The manager is well aware of this

[Pretty Boy]

I like the idea of signing promising youngsters. However I think it's an area we are very, very heavy in now.

From January Henderson, Melkerson, Hague and Delferrière. Then Kenneh, Tavares, Miller and Bojang this summer. Given the lukewarm reception from the club to Rocky he can probably be included in that list as well.

There is a risk with any signing but with young players that risk is amplified. Of our summer transfers thus far 2 of them have only really played in an under 23 setting. Of course I realise not all of them will be regulars from the off but we will be reliant on them throughout the season. If the 8 or 9 names mentioned above all make it as 1st team regulars then it will be about double the number of players we have graduated from the development squad in the last decade. That's wishful thinking bordering on madness to believe that will happen.

Looking at the squad now compared to the end of last season and I'm not sure you can really argue it is definitely improved. if a couple or these guys turn out to be superstars then it could well be but as it stands our transfer strategy is about as risky as it could be. We are signing guys with limited to no 1st team experience and limited exposure to Scottish or even British football.

I think we will look back on this window in the months to come and say it was either genius or an unmitigated disaster, even if we bring in 2 or 3 experienced heads in the coming weeks there is so many unknowns I'm not sure there is a lot of middle ground to be had.

[chippy]

The manager is well aware of this

We were linked to Connor McGrandles in winter window and I think recently.

[Since452]

Ross supposedly close to the Dundee United job.

Wonder if he’d come in for any of our players like Doidge or McGinn.

Dundee United will be a tougher proposition with Ross there next season as will Aberdeen and Hearts. Top 4 chase will be tough.

[Heisenberg]

The manager is well aware of this

I’m glad to hear that. Midfield was so similar and too defensive last season.

[McGruber]

I like the idea of signing promising youngsters. However I think it's an area we are very, very heavy in now.

From January Henderson, Melkerson, Hague and Delferrière. Then Kenneh, Tavares, Miller and Bojang this summer. Given the lukewarm reception from the club to Rocky he can probably be included in that list as well.

There is a risk with any signing but with young players that risk is amplified. Of our summer transfers thus far 2 of them have only really played in an under 23 setting. Of course I realise not all of them will be regulars from the off but we will be reliant on them throughout the season. If the 8 or 9 names mentioned above all make it as 1st team regulars then it will be about double the number of players we have graduated from the development squad in the last decade. That's wishful thinking bordering on madness to believe that will happen.

Looking at the squad now compared to the end of last season and I'm not sure you can really argue it is definitely improved. if a couple or these guys turn out to be superstars then it could well be but as it stands our transfer strategy is about as risky as it could be. We are signing guys with limited to no 1st team experience and limited exposure to Scottish or even British football.

I think we will look back on this window in the months to come and say it was either genius or an unmitigated disaster, even if we bring in 2 or 3 experienced heads in the coming weeks there is so many unknowns I'm not sure there is a lot of middle ground to be had.

Some names missed aswell- Dan McKay, Tait to name a few

[Pretty Boy]

Some names missed aswell- Dan McKay, Tait to name a few

I'm sceptical we will see either of them in a Hibs shirt again, or at all in the case of Tait.

I suppose that exemplifies the risks of signing youngsters.

[OldEast]

Attackers are welcome.

However unless we fix the middle of the park with another addition or two I feel you will see the same struggles.

IMHO

I completely agree. We can't rely solely on wingers. Early yet though and more to come I'm sure.

[Scotty Leither]

I like the idea of signing promising youngsters. However I think it's an area we are very, very heavy in now.

From January Henderson, Melkerson, Hague and Delferrière. Then Kenneh, Tavares, Miller and Bojang this summer. Given the lukewarm reception from the club to Rocky he can probably be included in that list as well.

There is a risk with any signing but with young players that risk is amplified. Of our summer transfers thus far 2 of them have only really played in an under 23 setting. Of course I realise not all of them will be regulars from the off but we will be reliant on them throughout the season. If the 8 or 9 names mentioned above all make it as 1st team regulars then it will be about double the number of players we have graduated from the development squad in the last decade. That's wishful thinking bordering on madness to believe that will happen.

Looking at the squad now compared to the end of last season and I'm not sure you can really argue it is definitely improved. if a couple or these guys turn out to be superstars then it could well be but as it stands our transfer strategy is about as risky as it could be. We are signing guys with limited to no 1st team experience and limited exposure to Scottish or even British football.

I think we will look back on this window in the months to come and say it was either genius or an unmitigated disaster, even if we bring in 2 or 3 experienced heads in the coming weeks there is so many unknowns I'm not sure there is a lot of middle ground to be had.

My fear is that if we go with a team of young players, then that runs the risk of being on the end of a few tankings. The Gordons might not think that’s such a big deal in their take on the grand scheme of things.

Problem for them there is that I think the fans will view it differently.

[HoboHarry]

😂 Don't worry I took myself into the next room and had a word with myself.
Did you remember the tissues?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Miles off ? Seriously ?

We outplayed them with 10 men and a horrific squad (and injury list) and an inept manager. They didn’t have a shot on target after 120 minutes in a cup final against a team who’d played in a European final 3 days earlier and hadn’t trained.

Shankland didn’t set the heather on fire with United in the top league, you suddenly think he’s going to turn into Harry Kane wearing maroon ?

We’re not miles off them at all.

On a game by game basis it’s often the case that nobody in our league is miles off anyone and that includes everyone else V the Old Firm.

Over the course of the season though it’s undeniable we were miles off them. From the transfer window so far, especially if they get Shankland, they’d look like they’re further ahead of us than they were when the season finished.

As it stands just now and if they get Shankland then we’re miles off them imo.

[The Sundance Kid]

Tavares about to be announced, going by the post on Hibs Twitter.

[Smartie]

I'm sceptical we will see either of them in a Hibs shirt again, or at all in the case of Tait.

I suppose that exemplifies the risks of signing youngsters.

They're youngsters being expected to also step up a level though. There's never any guarantee that a player tearing it up in the Championship whether they're young or old are going to be able to reproduce that against a better standard of player.

I don't have a problem with being loaded with youngsters - as long as they are really good and enough of them have enough of the right character about them. Scott Brown, Jason Cummings and others might have been youthful when they were with us but they had a strength of character and a presence about them. The youthfulness is a problem if it comes with a timidness.

I often think that experience is overrated. No doubt you need a sprinkling of it in there somewhere and you'll often struggle if you have none, but it can take different forms and I'm not a huge believer in having older players just for the sake of it. Or older players who might not necessarily be the right sort of characters. We'd probably consider Joe Newell to be experienced - not sure how much use his experience was to him when he was making the decision whether or not to walk home after a few jars or get stuck into multiple hefty challenges when on a yellow card just as your team is getting the upper hand in a semi final against your greatest rivals.

[TT07]

Tavares about to be announced, going by the post on Hibs Twitter.

Just announced on rwitter

[SHODAN]

Four year deal.

[Unseen work]

Dundee United will be a tougher proposition with Ross there next season as will Aberdeen and Hearts. Top 4 chase will be tough.

Completely agree, Ross will make them a more than decent and effective side.

Wonder if it will encourage our board to back the new manager that little bit more.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Completely agree, Ross will make them a more than decent and effective side.

Wonder if it will encourage our board to back the new manager that little bit more.

They finished 4th last season. Ross won’t improve on that imo, Infact I’d be very surprised if Ross matched that.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Completely agree, Ross will make them a more than decent and effective side.

Wonder if it will encourage our board to back the new manager that little bit more.

If he goes there... its a long drive fron Ponteland😉🙃😏

[Vault Boy]

Excited by this one, looks very skilful. Welcome, Jair.

[Unseen work]

Welcome Jair.

Hopefully from now on our signings are in the ‘prime’ category Johnson previously referred to.

We’ve got plenty young players with potential.

[JamesHFC]

McGeady’s experience will come through brilliant in nurturing this young talent.

[Johnny_Leith]

Welcome Jair, looks promising.

[Bridge hibs]

McGeady’s experience will come through brilliant in nurturing this young talent.

Is McGeady a goer ?

[MWHIBBIES]

They finished 4th last season. Ross won’t improve on that imo, Infact I’d be very surprised if Ross matched that.

Could easily make them a better team, though. They weren't any better than us last season. If Melkerson scores the open goal, they are below us.

[Brightside]

New strip on show in the Press Release. :greengrin

[Alex Trager]

New strip on show in the Press Release. :greengrin

Where about

[GreenPJ]

Completely agree, Ross will make them a more than decent and effective side.

Wonder if it will encourage our board to back the new manager that little bit more.

I like Jack Ross and rate him as a manager but I don't think you can knock the job Courts did. I don't think they will get the lad back from Man Utd and have already lost the young CH to Hearts. Utd don't have a huge budget and so I think if he can match what they did in the season just gone he will be doing well.

[Brightside]

Where about

Half way down..... with him wearing it. :greengrin

[Alex Trager]

Half way down..... with him wearing it. :greengrin

Ah, on the website?

Looks smart

[Bridge hibs]

Where aboutThe one Tavares is wearing is the old purple and green bogging striped version with the old beck bottle style badge and calor sponsor

[Stuart93]

The one Tavares is wearing is the old purple and green bogging striped version with the old beck bottle style badge and calor sponsor

One of the best tops we’ve had

[Big_Franck]

The one Tavares is wearing is the old purple and green bogging striped version with the old beck bottle style badge and calor sponsor

How very dare you. That's the nicest Hibs top ever.

[Bridge hibs]

One of the best tops we’ve hadI think its brutal, prefer the plain yellow or plain white ones, that striped one is painful on the eyes, I just dont like purple 🤣

[Brightside]

The one Tavares is wearing is the old purple and green bogging striped version with the old beck bottle style badge and calor sponsor

Its one of our bet and its clearly a clue to our new strip

[Bridge hibs]

Its one of our bet and its clearly a clue to our new stripGood, my pocket money will last a bit longer then 🤣

[Weir07]

I'll reserve full judgement until the end of the window but getting more and more concerned about Ron Gordon's reign, this policy of scouting untried youngsters from across the globe is fatally flawed IMO, the % that are a success will be low. We need 1st team ready players to improve on last year's poor league campaign and that doesn't seem to be happening. I assume the idea is to improve these youngsters and then sell on for a profit, hopefully it will be scrapped at some point in the near future, I only hope not too much damage is done before it is. Good luck Lee Johnson, you will need it!

[G15 Hibs]

Jair as in "chair" or "Ja-ear"? Or something else?

[Paul1642]

I'll reserve full judgement until the end of the window but getting more and more concerned about Ron Gordon's reign, this policy of scouting untried youngsters from across the globe is fatally flawed IMO, the % that are a success will be low. We need 1st team ready players to improve on last year's poor league campaign and that doesn't seem to be happening. I assume the idea is to improve these youngsters and then sell on for a profit, hopefully it will be scrapped at some point in the near future, I only hope not too much damage is done before it is. Good luck Lee Johnson, you will need it!

I really like the policy of building for the future. It just needs to coincide with Sal few solid pros for the current first team which I hope are still to come.

[Big_Franck]

Jair as in "chair" or "Ja-ear"? Or something else?

The second one :greengrin

[Unseen work]

McGeady’s experience will come through brilliant in nurturing this young talent.

McGeady happening?

Any update on the English player you alluded to a couple of weeks ago?

[GreenPJ]

I'll reserve full judgement until the end of the window but getting more and more concerned about Ron Gordon's reign, this policy of scouting untried youngsters from across the globe is fatally flawed IMO, the % that are a success will be low. We need 1st team ready players to improve on last year's poor league campaign and that doesn't seem to be happening. I assume the idea is to improve these youngsters and then sell on for a profit, hopefully it will be scrapped at some point in the near future, I only hope not too much damage is done before it is. Good luck Lee Johnson, you will need it!

You did well waiting until the end of the window :wink:

[blackpoolhibs]

A decent centre half, a decent middle of midfielder and a good centre forward and we are better than anything that finished below the gimps, and we'd be very close to them.

[JohnM1875]

A decent centre half, a decent middle of midfielder and a good centre forward and we are better than anything that finished below the gimps, and we'd be very close to them.

Exactly where I'm at as well. Really looking forward to the start of the season.

[GloryGlory]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/jair-tavares-joins-hibernian-fc

Interesting wording on the announcement. Not the usual "undisclosed fee" but "the terms of the transfer will remain undisclosed". The twitter from Portuguese sources suggested Hibs had put two deals on the table:

1) No upfront fee with any future transfer fee 50:50 share Hibs and Benfica.
2) Upfront fee and Benfica get 30% of any future transfer fee.

From the wording I would assume option 1 is what has been signed.

[HH81]

Who's next?

Let's hope he is decent.

[Big_Franck]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/jair-tavares-joins-hibernian-fc

Interesting wording on the announcement. Not the usual "undisclosed fee" but "the terms of the transfer will remain undisclosed". The twitter from Portuguese sources suggested Hibs had put two deals on the table:

1) No upfront fee with any future transfer fee 50:50 share Hibs and Benfica.
2) Upfront fee and Benfica get 30% of any future transfer fee.

From the wording I would assume option 1 is what has been signed.

I don't know, I don't think it's that kind of deal. Theres a sentence in the statement from the official site that seems to suggest we used a clause in his contract to get him at a cut-price deal:

Head of Recruitment Ian Gordon added: “It’s not often you are able to get a player of Jair’s quality for the terms agreed in this transfer.

“He’s a player we’ve monitored closely for a period of time and were able to take advantage of a specific clause in his contract. He is a real talent that’ll only get better.”

[Unseen work]

I'll reserve full judgement until the end of the window but getting more and more concerned about Ron Gordon's reign, this policy of scouting untried youngsters from across the globe is fatally flawed IMO, the % that are a success will be low. We need 1st team ready players to improve on last year's poor league campaign and that doesn't seem to be happening. I assume the idea is to improve these youngsters and then sell on for a profit, hopefully it will be scrapped at some point in the near future, I only hope not too much damage is done before it is. Good luck Lee Johnson, you will need it!

It’s just all about balance for me.

I fear we try kid ourselves at times though, always thinking we’re doing something no one else has thought of and that we’re signing the next big thing.

Individually signing guys like Bojang, Kenneh, Tavares, Melkersen, Hauge, Delferriere etc is exciting but too many can make it very difficult for them to actually grow. We also have Tait and Mackay who are almost forgotten about already, these are guys we have paid fee’s for too so whilst fans are excited it will quickly changed to if we never spent X amount of a couple of untried youngsters we could have got an experienced player etc.

We need experienced guys and players that have that quality now to take us up the league, not ones that might have it in a couple of years time.

I do still think we’ll see it as Johnson mentioned how the ‘prime’ players tend to take a bit longer to get and are more difficult.

But we really need to add quality where the vast majority of people can see that the new player will instantly improve us and start. At the moment the only one I can say that for is Marshall.

We also need to try get rid of quite a few players.

There’s plenty of time left though and I imagine we’ll see alot of movement yet.

[jacomo]

I'll reserve full judgement until the end of the window but getting more and more concerned about Ron Gordon's reign, this policy of scouting untried youngsters from across the globe is fatally flawed IMO, the % that are a success will be low. We need 1st team ready players to improve on last year's poor league campaign and that doesn't seem to be happening. I assume the idea is to improve these youngsters and then sell on for a profit, hopefully it will be scrapped at some point in the near future, I only hope not too much damage is done before it is. Good luck Lee Johnson, you will need it!


Don’t be so miserable.

Young talent with potential is more exciting than a team full of journeymen cloggers.

[04Sauzee]

Who's next?

Let's hope he is decent.

Wouldn't we hope all our signings are decent

[jacomo]

A decent centre half, a decent middle of midfielder and a good centre forward and we are better than anything that finished below the gimps, and we'd be very close to them.


Agreed. But if Doig goes we will have a job to replace him too.

[Northernhibee]

Agreed. But if Doig goes we will have a job to replace him too.

Being honest, I think we're fine with Mitchell and Stevenson on the left.

[HoboHarry]

I'll reserve full judgement until the end of the window but getting more and more concerned about Ron Gordon's reign, this policy of scouting untried youngsters from across the globe is fatally flawed IMO, the % that are a success will be low. We need 1st team ready players to improve on last year's poor league campaign and that doesn't seem to be happening. I assume the idea is to improve these youngsters and then sell on for a profit, hopefully it will be scrapped at some point in the near future, I only hope not too much damage is done before it is. Good luck Lee Johnson, you will need it!
Did your bird dump you or did you s**t yourself to make you this miserable?

[One Day Soon]

Ok, this is all good so far but now we really need to be signing some players with a bit of experience who will be first team picks. Young prospects are good, but we are going to need established quality in the spine of this side.

On the plus side the signings so far would suggest to me that someone who was planning this rationally would likely also be planning a sprinkling of two or three of serious quality in positions at the front, the mid and perhaps CB to complete the picture.

On the possibly worrying side a hatchery of youngsters with few adults would be a recipe for a very difficult season should we continue with more signings only in this vein.

:I'm waiti

[jacomo]

Being honest, I think we're fine with Mitchell and Stevenson on the left.


Maybe, but Mitchell’s fitness is a concern (plus the fact I’m unconvinced by him).

[SlickShoes]

Maybe, but Mitchell’s fitness is a concern (plus the fact I’m unconvinced by him).

Not sure if he will be back for the start of the season as he still had a medical boot thing on a week or so ago. If he can stay fit though those two as our left back options are good.

[JimBHibees]

Maybe, but Mitchell’s fitness is a concern (plus the fact I’m unconvinced by him).

Dont think he is great defensively

[GloryGlory]

I don't know, I don't think it's that kind of deal. Theres a sentence in the statement from the official site that seems to suggest we used a clause in his contract to get him at a cut-price deal:

Head of Recruitment Ian Gordon added: “It’s not often you are able to get a player of Jair’s quality for the terms agreed in this transfer.

“He’s a player we’ve monitored closely for a period of time and were able to take advantage of a specific clause in his contract. He is a real talent that’ll only get better.”

Maybe the clause was "we'll let you go for nowt if the other club are willing to offer a 50:50 share of future deals"? :dunno::dunno:

[tonyrougier123]

We now need a captain,a real winning mentality.
A player committed to doing the graft in the middle.
A centre back no nonsense style.
And another striker.
We need players who can do the boring simple stuff to glue these laddies we’ve signed together now,it doesn’t exist in the current squad at the moment, so I hope due diligence is being done on these types or the squad we have is very disproportionate to what is needed.

[Since452]

Quite excited by these signings.

[Greenworld]

We now need a captain,a real winning mentality.
A player committed to doing the graft in the middle.
A centre back no nonsense style.
And another striker.
We need players who can do the boring simple stuff to glue these laddies we’ve signed together now,it doesn’t exist in the current squad at the moment, so I hope due diligence is being done on these types or the squad we have is very disproportionate to what is needed.I think we have some of these players they won't be asked to be what there not under LJ so we have a few players that will have to alter there game to a more forward playing direct approach I suspect

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[J-C]

I'm sceptical we will see either of them in a Hibs shirt again, or at all in the case of Tait.

I suppose that exemplifies the risks of signing youngsters.


Mackay got injured after showing decent form pre season and Tait was on loan at Raith till January, both punted very quickly to Killie for the 2nd half of the season, so you have to wonder what type of training form they were showing to not be used from January in a very poor Hibs team.

[GreenGray]

Definitely excited by all these young players and I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. I do think we need some experience though, people who understand the importance of the big games etc.


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[King Cosell]

Not sure if he will be back for the start of the season as he still had a medical boot thing on a week or so ago. If he can stay fit though those two as our left back options are good.

He was on the bench for the Hearts semi.

[Vault Boy]

He was on the bench for the Hearts semi.

He had surgery after the season ended

[jacomo]

We now need a captain,a real winning mentality.
A player committed to doing the graft in the middle.
A centre back no nonsense style.
And another striker.
We need players who can do the boring simple stuff to glue these laddies we’ve signed together now,it doesn’t exist in the current squad at the moment, so I hope due diligence is being done on these types or the squad we have is very disproportionate to what is needed.


I don’t disagree with this.

Leaders in the dressing room to show these lads the way.

[Alex Trager]

We now need a captain,a real winning mentality.
A player committed to doing the graft in the middle.
A centre back no nonsense style.
And another striker.
We need players who can do the boring simple stuff to glue these laddies we’ve signed together now,it doesn’t exist in the current squad at the moment, so I hope due diligence is being done on these types or the squad we have is very disproportionate to what is needed.

Agree with what is required.

We also need to shift some

[Weir07]

Did your bird dump you or did you s**t yourself to make you this miserable?

Neither mate, just calling it like I see it. We're a top 5 club, name me any other top 5 club from any league in the world that's had tangible success from recruiting a bunch of youngsters. If I come across as miserable it's because I'm sick of crap that we're constantly served up by the owners of my club, mistake after mistake and no lessons learnt. Sooner we have owners that have knowledge of the game, or have the ability to appoint a CEO that does, the better.

[Mikey_1875]

Hopefully a success and at 4 years we must be fairly confident he will be.

I’m encouraged that we are getting players with a lot of pace in the attacking areas. It’s one of the most exciting attributes for a fan and if we can coach the football side of it then they can be very hard to stop in this league like Boyle was.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Neither mate, just calling it like I see it. We're a top 5 club, name me any other top 5 club from any league in the world that's had tangible success from recruiting a bunch of youngsters. If I come across as miserable it's because I'm sick of crap that we're constantly served up by the owners of my club, mistake after mistake and no lessons learnt. Sooner we have owners that have knowledge of the game, or have the ability to appoint a CEO that does, the better.

Wow, we did finish 3rd the season before and have had a fair few final and semi final appearances recently. I think some perspective is required. Yes last season was not great but let’s not tar previous seasons with the most recent.

[Alfred E Newman]

Wow, we did finish 3rd the season before and have had a fair few final and semi final appearances recently. I think some perspective is required. Yes last season was not great but let’s not tar previous seasons with the most recent.

Yes we did but then we dumped the manager who got us there .

[jacomo]

Neither mate, just calling it like I see it. We're a top 5 club, name me any other top 5 club from any league in the world that's had tangible success from recruiting a bunch of youngsters. If I come across as miserable it's because I'm sick of crap that we're constantly served up by the owners of my club, mistake after mistake and no lessons learnt. Sooner we have owners that have knowledge of the game, or have the ability to appoint a CEO that does, the better.


“You never win anything with kids!”

Alan Hansen

[Mr. Wonderful]

Neither mate, just calling it like I see it. We're a top 5 club, name me any other top 5 club from any league in the world that's had tangible success from recruiting a bunch of youngsters. If I come across as miserable it's because I'm sick of crap that we're constantly served up by the owners of my club, mistake after mistake and no lessons learnt. Sooner we have owners that have knowledge of the game, or have the ability to appoint a CEO that does, the better.

This is where I am too. They might have some superior knowledge and I'll be happy to put my hands up and say I'm wrong if they do but it seems to me that we're taking real gambles with way too many players and, as ever with young talent, the success rate won't be what we need it to be to be better than we were last season

[gbhibby]

“You never win anything with kids!”

Alan Hansen

We have the Class of 2022😁

[Stuart93]

This is where I am too. They might have some superior knowledge and I'll be happy to put my hands up and say I'm wrong if they do but it seems to me that we're taking real gambles with way too many players and, as ever with young talent, the success rate won't be what we need it to be to be better than we were last season

But if we sign experience to compliment the youngsters we’ve signed?

There’s plenty time left, relax

[04Sauzee]

But if we sign experience to compliment the youngsters we’ve signed?

There’s plenty time left, relax

Exactly this, I'm more than confident we will sign some players who are older and have more games behind them. Window will have been open only 1 week come tomorrow. Expect to see a few in/out soon.

[BSEJVT]

It is very early days and individually they look to have a bit quality about them.

We will need to see what else we sign before reaching any conclusions.

I would be a liar though if I said I didn't have a nagging concern that this feels a bit like a rich dad (Ron) giving his son (Ian) his head and a chance to make a name for himself but unearthing some kid who turns into a worldbeater having not really achieved much else in his previous career.

Hopefully, this and the B team signings work out grand and to date, you cannot question the fact that Ron is spending money, it just all seems a bit strange to me investing as much money as we have in (Marshall apart) a whole lot of untried players yet to make their way in the game, stretching back to at least the last transfer window, especially when the first team which is what interests most of us has been really struggling.

I fervently hope most of these signings make their way into the first team, it is certainly going to be interesting watching things develop.

I will be especially interested to see what happens with Mackay & Tait when the season starts. I fear for their futures at ER and that would be a massive wast of cash for a team like Hibs.

[Since452]

Will be funny when these young boys rip up the league and we secure a champions league spot and sell them on for 6 million each 😉

[Dmas]

Will be funny when these young boys rip up the league and we secure a champions league spot and sell them on for 6 million each 😉

I’m on board with that!

[Lago]

Quite excited by these signings.
Yip, just watched our new boys interview, he can cook and he will get use to the cold, love his positive attitude all through his interview. Great!!!!

[easty]

Mackay got injured after showing decent form pre season and Tait was on loan at Raith till January, both punted very quickly to Killie for the 2nd half of the season, so you have to wonder what type of training form they were showing to not be used from January in a very poor Hibs team.

Mackay was playing at the start of last season, he was really poor.

I’d hoped he’d go to Killie and he’d kick on, but it doesn’t look like he did at all.

[J-C]

Mackay was playing at the start of last season, he was really poor.

I’d hoped he’d go to Killie and he’d kick on, but it doesn’t look like he did at all.


He looked ok pre season but never really did much after that, I thought he got injured early doors but as you say, went to Killie and never really did anything there.

[SChibs]

Mackay was playing at the start of last season, he was really poor.

I’d hoped he’d go to Killie and he’d kick on, but it doesn’t look like he did at all.

I thought he looked okay. Definitely room for improvement but I thought he would kick on as he got more games and used to the team. He'd have given us another option and a bit of a goal threat

[McGruber]

Jason Kerr
Graeme Shinnie
Marlon Pack
Tom Eaves
Aiden McGeady

Jobs a good un

[thebausburst]

Neither mate, just calling it like I see it. We're a top 5 club, name me any other top 5 club from any league in the world that's had tangible success from recruiting a bunch of youngsters. If I come across as miserable it's because I'm sick of crap that we're constantly served up by the owners of my club, mistake after mistake and no lessons learnt. Sooner we have owners that have knowledge of the game, or have the ability to appoint a CEO that does, the better.
This is how I feel about things, cannot see us achieving the ambitions Ron has set without investment in proven quality, seems like the owner and team are very focused on revenue and player sales/value over sporting success.

[bingo70]

This is how I feel about things, cannot see us achieving the ambitions Ron has set without investment in proven quality, seems like the owner and team are very focused on revenue and player sales/value over sporting success.

They go hand in hand.

We need to trade players well to fund the sporting success.

[Unseen work]

Jason Kerr
Graeme Shinnie
Marlon Pack
Tom Eaves
Aiden McGeady

Jobs a good un

A couple of them would be very good signings albeit not sure how likely .

Along with quality and experience I’d like to see us go for

Regan Poole
Ciaron Brown
Anthony Scully
Daniel Mandriou

Think they’re all coming into their ‘prime’ as Johnson would say. Wonder if McGrath will be available since he’s hardly played for Wigan?

[04Sauzee]

Jason Kerr
Graeme Shinnie
Marlon Pack
Tom Eaves
Aiden McGeady

Jobs a good un
Were we not after Eaves about 4 years ago
Pack is slower than a fortnight in Saughton
, Shinnie will stay down South. I do know where you are coming from though

[Unseen work]

A couple of them would be very good signings albeit not sure how likely .

Along with quality and experience I’d like to see us go for

Regan Poole
Ciaron Brown
Anthony Scully
Daniel Mandriou

Think they’re all coming into their ‘prime’ as Johnson would say. Wonder if McGrath will be available since he’s hardly played for Wigan?

Take it the Cole Stockton chat is dead too? Alan Nixon seemed convinced even when other outlets said it wasn’t true

[04Sauzee]

A couple of them would be very good signings albeit not sure how likely .

Along with quality and experience I’d like to see us go for

Regan Poole
Ciaron Brown
Anthony Scully
Daniel Mandriou

Think they’re all coming into their ‘prime’ as Johnson would say. Wonder if McGrath will be available since he’s hardly played for Wigan?

Think Daniel Mandriou is a fantastic player but read he's a bit of a trouble maker, can't recall how exactly. There is another yooung guy who plays a similar role who was linked with MK Dons who looks the biz. I'm sure I seen an interview with Brown who sees himself as a LB and not a LCB so not sure he's be someone we would look at. I no nothing about the other 2 😁

[GreenCastle]

They go hand in hand.

We need to trade players well to fund the sporting success.

But surely a team doing well and the young player playing well rather than a team struggling and the player losing confidence or even doing ok but not standing out as much as a winning team.

I’m actually amazed Aberdeen have done so well to sell players for decent money.

[bingo70]

But surely a team doing well and the young player playing well rather than a team struggling and the player losing confidence or even doing ok but not standing out as much as a winning team.

I’m actually amazed Aberdeen have done so well to sell players for decent money.

Sorry, I don’t understand? The plan is for the team to do well with young players so what’s the issue? It’s not a case of one or the other.

Experienced players will be signed too.

[Callum_62]

This is how I feel about things, cannot see us achieving the ambitions Ron has set without investment in proven quality, seems like the owner and team are very focused on revenue and player sales/value over sporting success.Sounds like the manager likes this signing alot

Lee Johnson said: “Completing the deal to bring Jair to Hibernian FC is a real coup for this football club.

“He’s an incredibly talented winger that’ll not only improve our First Team squad, but is someone that has a lot of potential to develop into a top player in this league.

“Jair is an exciting, attacking talent that adds speed and trickery to our wide areas. We welcome him warmly to Hibs and look forward to working with him.

“I’d also like to thank the staff at Hibernian FC, Benfica, Jair’s father Adriano, and his agent for their work in getting this deal done.”

Head of Recruitment Ian Gordon added: “It’s not often you are able to get a player of Jair’s quality for the terms agreed in this transfer.

“He’s a player we’ve monitored closely for a period of time and were able to take advantage of a specific clause in his contract. He is a real talent that’ll only get better.”



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[HoboHarry]

Lets hope he's too quick for the hammer throwing defenders of Scottish fitba who'll want to boot him into next week.

[King Cosell]

From what Lincoln fans and fans of other League One clubs are saying, Conor McGrandles would be an excellent signing. Ticks all the boxes and with no transfer fee we could put together a juicy financial package.

[brydekirk]

We do still have decent amounts of experience in the squad.

Marshall, Stevenson, Hanlon, Mitchell, Newell, Cadden, Nisbet, Magennis, Doidge, JDH and probably others I’ve got bored trying to think of all have plenty experience.

It’s not quite the team of babies being put out that some are suggesting.

This.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Raphinha has rejected a £60m move from Liverpool to replace Mane, he's still holding out for that move to Barcelona who just happen to be sorta skintish :) Spurs/Arsenal supposedly interested.


apparently Raphinha is said to be willing to 'go to war' to force through a move away from Elland Road for the camp nou


ach sod him he's not worth that £60m price tag imo :)


Man city rumoured to be lining up a £50m bid for Kalvin Philips,who's been warned by ex player danny mills he will just end up "another squad player"

[04Sauzee]

From what Lincoln fans and fans of other League One clubs are saying, Conor McGrandles would be an excellent signing. Ticks all the boxes and with no transfer fee we could put together a juicy financial package.

Lincoln fans seemed to think he was ER bound and that his partner had already moved back to Scotland. That was a few weeks ago now though.

Also think he was injured towards the end of last season 👀

[GreenCastle]

Sorry, I don’t understand? The plan is for the team to do well with young players so what’s the issue? It’s not a case of one or the other.

Experienced players will be signed too.

Sorry didn’t explain that well.

Someone like Mueller for example - if we had good players around him I’m sure he would have played better / more goals / assists = sold for more.

Instead put him in a struggling team and he looked useless / short on confidence and not great at all.

Ok many will say he’s not good anyway but my point is if a team is doing well it’s a better environment for young players to put themselves in shop window / club to make good amounts of £ back.

Experienced players who hopefully aren’t using Hibs to retire would also be useful and I am expecting McGeady and others to compliment the youth.

[GreenCastle]

From what Lincoln fans and fans of other League One clubs are saying, Conor McGrandles would be an excellent signing. Ticks all the boxes and with no transfer fee we could put together a juicy financial package.

He definitely would be.

He’s coming back to Scotland - let’s just hope Hibs make him a priority. Would add leadership and quality to the middle plus the type of players fans will enjoy watching.

[Jdawg]

Sorry didn’t explain that well.

Someone like Mueller for example - if we had good players around him I’m sure he would have played better / more goals / assists = sold for more.

Instead put him in a struggling team and he looked useless / short on confidence and not great at all.

Ok many will say he’s not good anyway but my point is if a team is doing well it’s a better environment for young players to put themselves in shop window / club to make good amounts of £ back.

Experienced players who hopefully aren’t using Hibs to retire would also be useful and I am expecting McGeady and others to compliment the youth.
No he was absolutely pish.

[04Sauzee]

He definitely would be.

He’s coming back to Scotland - let’s just hope Hibs make him a priority. Would add leadership and quality to the middle plus the type of players fans will enjoy watching.

What type of player is he? Can't actually remember ever seeing him play

[MWHIBBIES]

Raphinha has rejected a £60m move from Liverpool to replace Mane, he's still holding out for that move to Barcelona who just happen to be sorta skintish :) Spurs/Arsenal supposedly interested.


apparently Raphinha is said to be willing to 'go to war' to force through a move away from Elland Road for the camp nou


ach sod him he's not worth that £60m price tag imo :)


Man city rumoured to be lining up a £50m bid for Kalvin Philips,who's been warned by ex player danny mills he will just end up "another squad player"

Barcelona aren't really skint. It was wages they had problems with, which they have massively reduced now. Not in a great situation still, but could easily spend 60 million.

[bingo70]

Lincoln fans seemed to think he was ER bound and that his partner had already moved back to Scotland. That was a few weeks ago now though.

Also think he was injured towards the end of last season 👀

He played at Lincoln with Lewis Fiorini last season. He’s someone I’ve noticed a lot on highlight packages. Would people be happy with him, presumably just on loan? Only 20 years but played a lot of football the last 2 years.

[Unseen work]

The only issue about McGrandles is the fact him and Johnson had a wee scuffle at the side of the pitch last season. Nothing more than handbags so let’s hope they can both put it behind them 😅

[Paul1642]

He played at Lincoln with Lewis Fiorini last season. He’s someone I’ve noticed a lot on highlight packages. Would people be happy with him, presumably just on loan? Only 20 years but played a lot of football the last 2 years.

A 20 year old on loan would surely send this place into meltdown right now.

[bingo70]

A 20 year old on loan would surely send this place into meltdown right now.

If he was brilliant then what’s the problem?

[Smartie]

If he was brilliant then what’s the problem?

Yeah, I don’t really get this.

Obviously we don’t want our squad to be packed out with loan signings but bringing someone in to be brilliant for a year could surely only be in our interests?

[chippy]

If he was brilliant then what’s the problem?

McGrandles is 26

[bingo70]

McGrandles is 26

Yeah, I’m suggesting Fiorini as a possibility who is only 20 but meant to be excellent and has 2 years first team football experience.

[xqnq1875]

Are we linked with Mcgrandles, been at work all day and I’ve just seen talk of him on here


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[King Cosell]

Are we linked with Mcgrandles, been at work all day and I’ve just seen talk of him on here


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Word is he wants to return to Scotland, so it's basically Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen.

[brog]

We have plenty experience available, certainly at the back and in midfield. (I'm not commenting on the quality. I'm sure others will!) To me our obvious deficiency is in attack. We have 2 experienced strikers, one is injured and their are major question marks over the other.
We had the 3rd best defence but the 8th best attack last season. It looks like we're addressing our other deficiency, ie lack of pace in the team but we desperately need, IMO, a focal point for our attack. If Porto and/or Doig go then we'll need to bring in defensive reinforcements but i suspect we already have contingency plans there.
Of course, none of this addresses our real problem, the system and style of play and the way individual players are deployed. Over to you Lee!!

[Iain G]

McGrandles is 26

What position is that then? 😁

[Vault Boy]

I know the last few times we’ve been linked to McGrandles, there’s not been any actual interest from the Hibs end.

No idea now with a new manager, though. So I suppose this was a useless post. Enjoy.

[One Day Soon]

We have plenty experience available, certainly at the back and in midfield. (I'm not commenting on the quality. I'm sure others will!) To me our obvious deficiency is in attack. We have 2 experienced strikers, one is injured and their are major question marks over the other.
We had the 3rd best defence but the 8th best attack last season. It looks like we're addressing our other deficiency, ie lack of pace in the team but we desperately need, IMO, a focal point for our attack. If Porto and/or Doig go then we'll need to bring in defensive reinforcements but i suspect we already have contingency plans there.
Of course, none of this addresses our real problem, the system and style of play and the way individual players are deployed. Over to you Lee!!

Who is our midfield playmaker?

[HoboHarry]

I know the last few times we’ve been linked to McGrandles, there’s not been any actual interest from the Hibs end.

No idea now with a new manager, though. So I suppose this was a useless post. Enjoy.
Yes, back to the vault you go and no .net for week. :greengrin

[Unseen work]

Might be in the minority but I don’t think McGrandles is the type of midfielder we need.

I rate JDH and Newell and think along with Kenneh they’ll all be able to contribute well.

We need a replacement/someone to compete with Magennis as you never know how long he’ll be fit for. Someone who can do a bit of everything, score and create, loads of energy and get in the box, but also have the strength and defensive ability. I’d personally like to see Cameron Brannigan from Oxford but I’m not sure how likely that would be as I imagine he has a lot of clubs after him.

Whilst Newell and JDH got loads of stick and never played to their normal standards, I think if you’ve got players ahead of them that are intelligent, can hold the ball in and have good movement you’ll see another side to them.

Under Maloney the forwards all came to feet and made it very congested, it was difficult for them to do much other than a 5 yard pass under those instructions.

Johnson’s 100mph will see a different side to them.

[Callum_62]

Australia, Portugal and Gambia

Anyone else disappointed we havent made 1 signing from Paisley yet?

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[Greencore]

Australia, Portugal and Gambia

Anyone else disappointed we havent made 1 signing from Paisley yet?

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Still time 😃👍

[Greenworld]

Ajax

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[theonlywayisup]

So, taking the squad posted yesterday from SDG on another thread, I wonder when we'll have a team comprising on no Scottish players!

Dabrowski

Clarke
Bushiri
Delferriere
Miller

Hauge
Doyle Hayes
Kenneh
Tavares

Melkersen
Bojang

Not suggesting that we set up with the team above, just picking as many non-Scots (or non-British) players as I could.

How would you feel watching a Hibs team without any Scottish players?



Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Macey
Dabrowski
Mitchell

McGinn
Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Clarke
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere
MacIntyre
Mitchell
McGregor

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait
Hauge
Magennis
Henderson
Blaney
Aiken
Hamilton
Kenneh
Mackay
Tavares

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor

Squad of 35 as things stand.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Ajax

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Domestos

[McGruber]

So, taking the squad posted yesterday from SDG on another thread, I wonder when we'll have a team comprising on no Scottish players!

Dabrowski

Clarke
Bushiri
Delferriere
Miller

Hauge
Doyle Hayes
Kenneh
Tavares

Melkersen
Bojang

Not suggesting that we set up with the team above, just picking as many non-Scots (or non-British) players as I could.

How would you feel watching a Hibs team without any Scottish players?

That was a list of a squad of 35 though not sure where the line was for youth and B players. Steven Bradley missing and Laidlaw, Young, Brydon probably about same level as those included. For your foreign contingent there was the American lad signed, E Johnson, the Portugese (?) J Balde and the right back Megwa from the performance school. Plenty other youngsters behind that lot too.

More to the point - the squad is massive. I agree the narrative that there is no point panicking that we have plenty time to sign ready to go tried and tested 1st teamers with a known quality.... but surely not much space in the squad as things stand. A number will need moved on to accomodate and that won't be easy, or cheap, given our out of contract guys have gone. A large number of loans maybe on the cards for some you would think.

[OldEast]

So, taking the squad posted yesterday from SDG on another thread, I wonder when we'll have a team comprising on no Scottish players!

Dabrowski

Clarke
Bushiri
Delferriere
Miller

Hauge
Doyle Hayes
Kenneh
Tavares

Melkersen
Bojang

Not suggesting that we set up with the team above, just picking as many non-Scots (or non-British) players as I could.

How would you feel watching a Hibs team without any Scottish players?

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if they were all the best available to us for each position.

[JammyDoidger]

How would we feel about Jamie McCart now? On a free, 24 years old. Left sided, double cup winner, shown he can defend and play, no brainer for me.

[JimBHibees]

How would we feel about Jamie McCart now? On a free, 24 years old. Left sided, double cup winner, shown he can defend and play, no brainer for me.

Would make sense though question whether LJ would want him

[JammyDoidger]

Would make sense though question whether LJ would want him

Think we've seen enough experiments, time to get guys proven at our level in the door now, and a left sided centre half is well needed for me. Still not at his peak, can be coached into a better player, ticks all the boxes.

[JimBHibees]

Think we've seen enough experiments, time to get guys proven at our level in the door now, and a left sided centre half is well needed for me. Still not at his peak, can be coached into a better player, ticks all the boxes.

Agree maybe Johnson has someone in mind as we definitely need that sort of player

[Unseen work]

How would we feel about Jamie McCart now? On a free, 24 years old. Left sided, double cup winner, shown he can defend and play, no brainer for me.

I was a big fan of McCart and really wanted us to sign him last summer. Think he would have been a great addition to play left of a back 3 as he’s mobile, decent defensively and good on the ball.

I’m unsure how he’d cope in Johnson’s style though as I think he’ll want really powerful centre halves that are really good 1 v 1 as they’ll likely be exposed to a lot of counter attacks.

Could certainly do worse especially since he’ll be free and is a good age.

[Smartie]

I thinK McCart would be a disaster for us.

[scoopyboy]

How would we feel about Jamie McCart now? On a free, 24 years old. Left sided, double cup winner, shown he can defend and play, no brainer for me.

He's maybe on a free for a reason, if he was that good would somebody have not signed him on a pre contract?

I paid particular attention to him last season and thought he was poor, he was good beside Jason Kerr the season before but I think Kerr must have been helping him a lot.

Not for me.

[Tyler Durden]

I think we maybe dodged a bullet on McCart. I think Jack Fitzwater at Livi would be one to go for, albeit we’d need to pay a decent fee

[weecounty hibby]

I hope we aren't looking at McCart. Really do not rate him in the slightest.

[brog]

He's maybe on a free for a reason, if he was that good would somebody have not signed him on a pre contract?

I paid particular attention to him last season and thought he was poor, he was good beside Jason Kerr the season before but I think Kerr must have been helping him a lot.

Not for me.

Agreed, St J got that 1 wrong!

[BILLYHIBS]

McCart makes Hanlon look like Beckenbauer

Thanks but no thanks

[Northernhibee]

For some reason signings from St Johnstone as of late haven’t quite worked out. Craig, Wright, Swanson etc.

[Paulie Walnuts]

For some reason signings from St Johnstone as of late haven’t quite worked out. Craig, Wright, Swanson etc.

Rowan vine.. :greengrin

It’s not been a succesful place for picking up players for us at all.

[Nicho87]

I thought Alex Iacovitti improved last season. Only 24 big goal threat also.

[GloryGlory]

I thought Alex Iacovitti improved last season. Only 24 big goal threat also.

Just signed a new deal:

https://www.bt.com/sport/news/2022/june/ex-scotland-under-21-defender-alex-iacovitti-signs-new-deal-with-ross-county

[McGruber]

BBC reporting we are still after a midfielder, a winger and a striker. Good news but surely a centre back on the list aswell. McGregor not likely to feature this time round so we would be heavily reliant on Porteous and Hanlon being fit and available. I think we need 1 now - 2 solid ones if Porteous goes

* I know Rocky is there but don't think it particularly helps

[Paloschi]

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/former-plymouth-argyle-defender-ben-7200228.amp

Ben Purrington now leaving Charlton - they didn’t offer him a new deal despite him being a regular. I was told Hibs are keen on him and offered him a deal. Can’t see it if Doig stays and the back up was the West Ham defender. Unless Johnson wants another left back and thinks Stevenson is better in midfield.

[Paloschi]

BBC reporting we are still after a midfielder, a winger and a striker. Good news but surely a centre back on the list aswell. McGregor not likely to feature this time round so we would be heavily reliant on Porteous and Hanlon being fit and available. I think we need 1 now - 2 solid ones if Porteous goes

* I know Rocky is there but don't think it particularly helps


In my opinion it’s an absolute priority. Porteous, Hanlon and Bushiri with another starting centre back would be ok. Not sure McGregor or even Stevenson are viable options there. Can Harry Clarke play CB?

[Willis1875]

In my opinion it’s an absolute priority. Porteous, Hanlon and Bushiri with another starting centre back would be ok. Not sure McGregor or even Stevenson are viable options there. Can Harry Clarke play CB?

Clarke and Doig can aswell as Delferriere and Kenneh

[McGruber]

Clarke and Doig can aswell as Delferriere and Kenneh

I know. So can McGinn, Miller etc. They can all play there but it's square pegs and round holes. It's not their best position and none are dominant centre backs. These fill ins would get us by but not push us on/improve the team. Also takes them away from their best position

[Willis1875]

I know. So can McGinn, Miller etc. They can all play there but it's square pegs and round holes. It's not their best position and none are dominant centre backs. These fill ins would get us by but not push us on/improve the team. Also takes them away from their best position

I know,I agree.
I was just answering the previous posters question

[McGruber]

I know,I agree.
I was just answering the previous posters question

Hopefully Johnson has someone in mind, must be good options in the English leagues

[Gordy M]

I know. So can McGinn, Miller etc. They can all play there but it's square pegs and round holes. It's not their best position and none are dominant centre backs. These fill ins would get us by but not push us on/improve the team. Also takes them away from their best position

I think Harry Clarke is actually a centre half being used as a right back is he not? I may be wrong but i thought he played CH for Arsenal and Ross Co.

[McGruber]

I think Harry Clarke is actually a centre half being used as a right back is he not? I may be wrong but i thought he played CH for Arsenal and Ross Co.

I think Clarke's biggest strength by far is his running power. That's what probably sees him wider on the pitch. I've only ever seen him play right back/wing back for us and County (though he could have played centre back for them most of the season for County for all I know - only started paying attention when we were linked).

[Iain G]

I think Harry Clarke is actually a centre half being used as a right back is he not? I may be wrong but i thought he played CH for Arsenal and Ross Co.

Clarke and Porto could make a great, strong, mobile centre half pairing

[Gordy M]

I think Clarke's biggest strength by far is his running power. That's what probably sees him wider on the pitch. I've only ever seen him play right back/wing back for us and County (though he could have played centre back for them most of the season for County for all I know - only started paying attention when we were linked).
No i totally agree about his forward movement, but with us signing the young Oz right back i wondered if LJ sees Clarke as more a CH? I think he would be decent in there. Big strong quick.

[Gordy M]

Clarke and Porto could make a great, strong, mobile centre half pairing

I agree:aok:

[McGruber]

No i totally agree about his forward movement, but with us signing the young Oz right back i wondered if LJ sees Clarke as more a CH? I think he would be decent in there. Big strong quick.

See where you're coming from, possibly would yeah. If he is dominant in the air makes sense. One of the things Rocky lacks is ability to win enough headers. Clarke might be an answer.

Be hard to fit Clarke, Miller and Cadden in the same team - good problem to have I suppose

[Tambo]

Not transfer news but I see Cummings has signed an extension.

[davhibby]

BBC reporting we are still after a midfielder, a winger and a striker. Good news but surely a centre back on the list aswell. McGregor not likely to feature this time round so we would be heavily reliant on Porteous and Hanlon being fit and available. I think we need 1 now - 2 solid ones if Porteous goes

* I know Rocky is there but don't think it particularly helps

Rocky is an improvement on Daz as fourth choice, I agree we need 1 to challenge now and a replacement if Porto goes

[SChibs]

I think Clarke's biggest strength by far is his running power. That's what probably sees him wider on the pitch. I've only ever seen him play right back/wing back for us and County (though he could have played centre back for them most of the season for County for all I know - only started paying attention when we were linked).

I think Clarke would be good on the right side of a back 3. It would give him the freedom to make runs further forward and carry the ball. Under Lennon Hanlon used to overlap on the left from time to time and it was quite effective

[ahibby]

Rocky is an improvement on Daz as fourth choice, I agree we need 1 to challenge now and a replacement if Porto goes

I wonder with the wide players we have now whether they will consider Kenneh and Miller slotting in at CB when required, both strapping lads. I know Miller is a wing back but knows about defensive duties too. Still, I too would like to see a CB come in. I liked the look of Jay Rich at Accrington also plays with Miller for Oz u23 but is also a bit green. At 6ft 6ins tall has presence

[04Sauzee]

I wonder with the wide players we have now whether they will consider Kenneh and Miller slotting in at CB when required, both strapping lads. I know Miller is a wing back but knows about defensive duties too. Still, I too would like to see a CB come in. I liked the look of Jay Rich at Accrington also plays with Miller for Oz u23 but is also a bit green. At 6ft 6ins tall has presence
He's a unit and half , only seen him in one game so can't really give an opinion on him other than he's definitely a physical looking guy.

[Callum_62]

I wonder when Arsenals clause to bring Clarke back expires - It surely cant run until the end of the window

[Jones28]

I wonder when Arsenals clause to bring Clarke back expires - It surely cant run until the end of the window

I'd like to think they will have to do so before the season starts.

[J-C]

I think Harry Clarke is actually a centre half being used as a right back is he not? I may be wrong but i thought he played CH for Arsenal and Ross Co.

Play both equally well. Delferriere the lad from Belgium was highly thought off, he may be seen as back up this season,if he's any good get him playing.

[J-C]

I wonder when Arsenals clause to bring Clarke back expires - It surely cant run until the end of the window

Why not, they can recall him anytime within the window being open, it's what we agreed to.

[Callum_62]

Why not, they can recall him anytime within the window being open, it's what we agreed to.I figured that them recalling them on the evening of TDD wouldnt be ideal for us

Wondered if there was an earlier cut off to that clause - I don't think it would have to tie into the TDD dates

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[Alex Trager]

In my opinion it’s an absolute priority. Porteous, Hanlon and Bushiri with another starting centre back would be ok. Not sure McGregor or even Stevenson are viable options there. Can Harry Clarke play CB?

Agree with this.

If Porto goes we need 2.

I want one in to challenge Hanlon to play alongside Porto

[GloryGlory]

I figured that them recalling them on the evening of TDD wouldnt be ideal for us

Wondered if there was an earlier cut off to that clause - I don't think it would have to tie into the TDD dates

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I suppose we'll know if he turns up for preseason on Saturday.

[04Sauzee]

Andy Considine looks like he's going to be a St Johnstone player

[04Sauzee]

Ramsay to Liverpool looks like it's agreed

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/calvin-ramsay-liverpool-agreed-aberdeen-24242308

[badabing67]

I wonder when Arsenals clause to bring Clarke back expires - It surely cant run until the end of the window

I think the recall is available to Arsenal until the end of the January window

[Callum_62]

I think the recall is available to Arsenal until the end of the January windowI know they have a summer and winter recall, I just wondered if it was active until the window closes during both periods

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[Blaster]

Linked with 20 year old Kyle Mclelland. Centre half freed by Rangers

[thebausburst]

Hibs being linked with Rangers kid Kyle McClelland apparently a “long-term contract has been hammered out which would see the Northern Ireland Under-21s star move to Easter Road.” according to the Sun.

[Col2]

BBC reporting we are still after a midfielder, a winger and a striker. Good news but surely a centre back on the list aswell. McGregor not likely to feature this time round so we would be heavily reliant on Porteous and Hanlon being fit and available. I think we need 1 now - 2 solid ones if Porteous goes

* I know Rocky is there but don't think it particularly helps

I think it comes down to IF Rocky was trusted/valued we wouldn’t be seeing another CH as top priority. I still think he will be moved on if LJ doesn’t get the performances he wants by end of Aug. we would replace if so and same for Porto. For me a 4th defender could be from u20s or loan on but late in window so maybe not a top priority?

[Lee Marvin]

Welcome to Hibs Boys Club, Kyle

[JimBHibees]

Welcome to Hibs Boys Club, Kyle

Anyone any idea how good he is?

[King Cosell]

If Ryan Porteous was a foreign player who arrived at ER in Jan 2020, I don't think many would want to keep him. He had an error-strewn few months and a lot of fans, myself included, would have played McGregor in the cup final. Last season Porteous was magnificent. Let's not wright Rocky off.

[Stuart93]

Anyone any idea how good he is?

West Ham were interested in him last month. Must have something about him

Also just seen he was on loan at Falkirk and struggled, which isn’t too good

[Vault Boy]

Linked to EFL Championship clubs too. Wonder why he’s not cut it at Rangers.

[HoboHarry]

Calvin Ramsay has signed for Liverpool. Two Scottish full backs there now....

[Mr. Wonderful]

Linked to EFL Championship clubs too. Wonder why he’s not cut it at Rangers.

The boy is an absolute baller. Will make us millions

GGTTH

[timewilltell]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/B787/production/_125438964_bbcbreakingnewsgraphic.jpg

Aberdeen have accepted a £4.5m offer from Liverpool for 18-year-old full-back Calvin Ramsay.
The deal also includes £3m of potential add-ons and a 20% sell-on clause.

Ramsay has agreed a five-year deal with the Anfield side and is set to finalise the move following his medical in the next few days.
Ramsay has made 39 appearances - including 33 last season - for the Scottish Premiership club after rising through the youth ranks.

[Stokesy's on fire]

The wee dons have done well to sell Ramsay to Liverpool for a fee that large considering he isn't actually that good

[Stuart93]

The wee dons have done well to sell Ramsay to Liverpool for a fee that large considering he isn't actually that good

For 18 year old he’s a very good player and only going to get better.

You don’t sign for that Liverpool team if you aren’t that good

[Callum_62]

The wee dons have done well to sell Ramsay to Liverpool for a fee that large considering he isn't actually that goodCome off it, he's already pretty good and has massive potential

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[flash]

For 18 year old he’s a very good player and only going to get better.

You don’t sign for that Liverpool team if you aren’t that good

Exciting both for him and the national team if he can cut it down there.
Wonder if Josh Doig will be next.

[HoboHarry]

For 18 year old he’s a very good player and only going to get better.

You don’t sign for that Liverpool team if you aren’t that good
Only Scotland could have such a crap forward line and at the same time have 4 top class full backs.

[HoboHarry]

The wee dons have done well to sell Ramsay to Liverpool for a fee that large considering he isn't actually that good
Behave yourself.

[04Sauzee]

Come off it, he's already pretty good and has massive potential

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Only seen him a few times myself and I wasn't overly impressed. Probably caught him on his bad days though and I'm sure Liverpool are better at scouting than me 😅

[Springbank]

Clarke and Porto could make a great, strong, mobile centre half pairing

You could make a case for a return to the Lennon 2018 formation, where in the 3-5-2 two of the three defenders (Efe & Hanlon) were encouraged to be overlapping centre backs, and to carry the ball through the midfield

Not sure JDH has the positional awareness that the 2018 version of Dylan McGeough had though, but maybe that would be Kenneh's role anyway, as the guy who snuffs out counters if the ball gets lost/turned over with one of the defence stuck up the pitch

But there's maybe a bit of mileage in a line up of

Marshall

Clarke, Porto, Rocky/Hanlon (bringing a more dynamic ball-playing defence again)

Cadden and Doig wingbacks

Kenneh CDM alongside McGennis & one of Stevenson/JDH/Newell

Tavares
Nisbet

[cameronw-hfc]

West Ham were interested in him last month. Must have something about him

Also just seen he was on loan at Falkirk and struggled, which isn’t too good


Asked my pal from Falkirk and he said he's very surprised we're interested. said he won't be good enough for the prem yet and can't see him ever being good enough.

Hope he just had a poor year at Falkirk rather than being a bad player.

[CapitalGreen]

Asked my pal from Falkirk and he said he's very surprised we're interested. said he won't be good enough for the prem yet and can't see him ever being good enough.

Hope he just had a poor year at Falkirk rather than being a bad player.

Scott Burns was linking him with a move to Cardiff or Sheffield Utd just last month. He only turned 20 in February so obviously a lot of potential to still develop.

[Nicho87]

Won’t with anything with kids…

[Unseen work]

The more youngsters we sign the more worrying it gets for me I’m afraid.

[Stokesy's on fire]

For 18 year old he’s a very good player and only going to get better.

You don’t sign for that Liverpool team if you aren’t that good

Once upon a time Frances Jeffers was purchased for a large transfer fee...the fee didnt make him a good player

[04Sauzee]

Alex Cochrane who was on loan at Hearts last season is wanted by QPR, Coventry and Hearts according to reports.

[04Sauzee]

The more youngsters we sign the more worrying it gets for me I’m afraid.

Which signings have you worried?
Do you not think we will sign players over the age of 20/21 in the coming weeks. Window opened 1 week ago.

[04Sauzee]

Andy Considine signs 2 year deal at St Johnstone
Drey Wright also signs on for 2 years.

[Stuart93]

Once upon a time Frances Jeffers was purchased for a large transfer fee...the fee didnt make him a good player

I’m not saying the fee makes him a good player.

Being a good player makes him a good player

In fact, I never mentioned the fee at all

[Unseen work]

Which signings have you worried?
Do you not think we will sign players over the age of 20/21 in the coming weeks. Window opened 1 week ago.

Not one individually has me worried but it just feels a bit at the moment that it will only be 19-22 year olds we sign with the exception of a David Marshall.

I just find it a bit odd we’d sign this boy who is 20 and only played a handful of games for Falkirk when we’ve got Jack Brydon and Delferriere for example.

I’m giving the club the benefit of the doubt they’ll sign older players but with each passing day it’s looking less likely.

I just want to see us sign a good couple of players that Johnson knows, trusts and is of a good age and experience.

[Groathillgrump]

Andy Considine signs 2 year deal at St Johnstone
Drey Wright also signs on for 2 years.

Thought he was hopeless but no doubt will come back to haunt us next season.

[easty]

For 18 year old he’s a very good player and only going to get better.

You don’t sign for that Liverpool team if you aren’t that good

He’s a good player, I think Aberdeen have got a great deal though.

I don’t agree with your last point, last season they signed Ben Davies, Oran Kabak and Tsimikas. They’re no that good.

[ancient hibee]

Obviously a lot of these younger players will be needed for the B team. However I think if we don’t sign an experienced midfielder who can dictate the tempo of the game we will be in big trouble. We can’t go into a new season with anything resembling last season’s midfield particularly as I’m not convinced that Magennis will be fit.

[Centre Hawf]

Not one individually has me worried but it just feels a bit at the moment that it will only be 19-22 year olds we sign with the exception of a David Marshall.

I just find it a bit odd we’d sign this boy who is 20 and only played a handful of games for Falkirk when we’ve got Jack Brydon and Delferriere for example.

I’m giving the club the benefit of the doubt they’ll sign older players but with each passing day it’s looking less likely.

I just want to see us sign a good couple of players that Johnson knows, trusts and is of a good age and experience.

I imagine this lad is far more for the Development squad than the first team and is Steve Kean's signing more than Lee Johnson for example. He'll probably go into the dev squad with a view of playing in the next 12 to 48 months depending on his development. If he does well and starts playing for the first time then brilliant, if not then he'll be released when his contract is up like any other player of his age.

No need to worry too much about it imo, long summer ahead for older players to come in.

[CapitalGreen]

He’s a good player, I think Aberdeen have got a great deal though.

I don’t agree with your last point, last season they signed Ben Davies, Oran Kabak and Tsimikas. They’re no that good.

Tsimikas is a very good player. Would be a starting left back at every other team in the EPL other than Chelsea (and City if you consider Cancelo a LB).

[easty]

Thought he was hopeless but no doubt will come back to haunt us next season.

I doubt it.

I remember thinking when we signed him - I've never seen this guy do anything, ever. He'd been at St Johnstone for 2 years and I had no idea what sort of player he was. Until we were going for him, you never heard anyone talking about how good Drey Wright was.

He'll go back to St Johnstone, they'll set up like the always do, and he'll fit in somewhere doing nowt.

[easty]

Tsimikas is a very good player. Would be a starting left back at every other team in the EPL other than Chelsea (and City if you consider Cancelo a LB).

The bit in bold isn't true, at all.

[HoboHarry]

The bit in bold isn't true, at all.
I've no real idea how you can think he is anything but a good player.

[GreenGray]

Asked my pal from Falkirk and he said he's very surprised we're interested. said he won't be good enough for the prem yet and can't see him ever being good enough.

Hope he just had a poor year at Falkirk rather than being a bad player.

I wouldn’t judge him on that season, Falkirk are a shambles. He’s seemingly very highly rated at Rangers they wanted to keep him.

Must be good if West Ham and others down south interested also.


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[Brightside]

I doubt it.

I remember thinking when we signed him - I've never seen this guy do anything, ever. He'd been at St Johnstone for 2 years and I had no idea what sort of player he was. Until we were going for him, you never heard anyone talking about how good Drey Wright was.

He'll go back to St Johnstone, they'll set up like the always do, and he'll fit in somewhere doing nowt.

The St J manager thought he was their best player back then. It didnt work at Hibs but he will do fine at StJ.

[Tyler Durden]

Not one individually has me worried but it just feels a bit at the moment that it will only be 19-22 year olds we sign with the exception of a David Marshall.

I just find it a bit odd we’d sign this boy who is 20 and only played a handful of games for Falkirk when we’ve got Jack Brydon and Delferriere for example.

I’m giving the club the benefit of the doubt they’ll sign older players but with each passing day it’s looking less likely.

I just want to see us sign a good couple of players that Johnson knows, trusts and is of a good age and experience.

This is not really based on anything is it? We will sign experienced players.

[04Sauzee]

From the Sun

EXCLUSIVE: Benji Siegrist to Celtic transfer close to completion as Hoops poised to win race for ex-Dundee United keeper

https://t.co/1nNDuyxnL7

[WeeRussell]

The bit in bold isn't true, at all.

Kieran Tierney springs to mind as a starting point.

[Since452]

This is not really based on anything is it? We will sign experienced players.

Yup. The transfer window has only just opened. I want us to get the right players in so if it takes a wee bit longer i'm OK with that. LJ did say that the young players are the ones you can get in the door quickly and certainly looks that way.

[Lago]

Andy Considine signs 2 year deal at St Johnstone
Drey Wright also signs on for 2 years.
Pleased for Wright

[Gordy M]

Speaking to a jambo season ticket holder today, asked about Shankland, he was saying that they really want Simms back but various Championship clubs interested. Problem they have is that our season starts before England? so do they wait and potentially miss out on him and not sign anyone in the meantime? I thought Shankland had signed?

[Stokesy's on fire]

I’m not saying the fee makes him a good player.

Being a good player makes him a good player

In fact, I never mentioned the fee at all

time will tell but Aberdeen have done well to rip Liverpool off for that fee.

[cameronw-hfc]

He’s a good player, I think Aberdeen have got a great deal though.

I don’t agree with your last point, last season they signed Ben Davies, Oran Kabak and Tsimikas. They’re no that good.


Ben Davies and Kabak we're emergency cover and Tsimikas has been impressive whenever he's had a chance? I know Liverpool fans like him.

[cameronw-hfc]

I wouldn’t judge him on that season, Falkirk are a shambles. He’s seemingly very highly rated at Rangers they wanted to keep him.

Must be good if West Ham and others down south interested also.



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Yep, id take my post with a pinch of salt, only posted it because I figured it's worth saying, although as you say Falkirk isn't exactly a club to judge someone on given their state.

[easty]

The St J manager thought he was their best player back then. It didnt work at Hibs but he will do fine at StJ.

Yeah I remember reading that when we signed him, but that didn't change the fact that, for me, in the 2 years he'd had at St Johnstone I'd seen and heard nowt about him. I'm nae Scottish football mastermind, but I do keep up to date with whats going on, and I watch the highlights and read the match reports. I cannae remember any other player we've signed from another SPL team that I've knew nothing about. Then he comes here, and it didn't really surprise me that he doesn't do anything.

[Since452]

Big Rocky deserved a permanent deal if only for blootering the ball into orbit at Arbroath back in February. One of the funniest things i've seen at the football. The longer time goes by the more i think i imagined it.

[Scotty Leither]

Not one individually has me worried but it just feels a bit at the moment that it will only be 19-22 year olds we sign with the exception of a David Marshall.

I just find it a bit odd we’d sign this boy who is 20 and only played a handful of games for Falkirk when we’ve got Jack Brydon and Delferriere for example.

I’m giving the club the benefit of the doubt they’ll sign older players but with each passing day it’s looking less likely.

I just want to see us sign a good couple of players that Johnson knows, trusts and is of a good age and experience.


Maybe Kensell will tell the assembled throng what the club's incoming transfer policy is at the Q and A this Wednesday?

Unless the questions are vetted beforehand like they were at Sean Maloney's gig where his favourite soup and cereal were deemed to be the burning issues of the evening.

[04Sauzee]

From Patrick McPartlin

🔙 Hibs have recalled EJ Johnson from his Charleston Battery loan spell. Versatile winger will join up with the development squad

https://t.co/E3ytEasqkV


Also saying the deal for McClelland would be for the development squad

[Since90+2]

Ben Davies and Kabak we're emergency cover and Tsimikas has been impressive whenever he's had a chance? I know Liverpool fans like him.

Tsimikas is quality. Wouldn't be surprised to see him start the season ahead of Robertson.

[HoboHarry]

Tsimikas is quality. Wouldn't be surprised to see him start the season ahead of Robertson.
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm waiting for the punchline here? Unless you mean because they are giving Robertson time to rest of course....

[easty]

Tsimikas is quality. Wouldn't be surprised to see him start the season ahead of Robertson.

:faf:

[Since90+2]

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm waiting for the punchline here? Unless you mean because they are giving Robertson time to rest of course....

Tsimikas' end delivery is better than Robertson's. I suspect Robertson will become more of a squad player next season.

[HoboHarry]

Tsimikas' end delivery is better than Robertson's. I suspect Robertson will become more of a squad player next season.
Aye right, you're at it so I'll leave you to your nonsense.

[Vault Boy]

From Patrick McPartlin

🔙 Hibs have recalled EJ Johnson from his Charleston Battery loan spell. Versatile winger will join up with the development squad

https://t.co/E3ytEasqkV


Also saying the deal for McClelland would be for the development squad

Better than having Johnson loaned out to a standard below that of the development team

[Stuart93]

time will tell but Aberdeen have done well to rip Liverpool off for that fee.

Well done to Aberdeen I’d say. I hope every Scottish club start doing the same thing.

It’s about time we started demanding more of a fee from teams down south

[Since90+2]

Aye right, you're at it so I'll leave you to your nonsense.

You ok, you seem awfully upset?

[easty]

Tsimikas' end delivery is better than Robertson's. I suspect Robertson will become more of a squad player next season.

You're on the wind up.

[MWHIBBIES]

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm waiting for the punchline here? Unless you mean because they are giving Robertson time to rest of course....

Don't see why its so outrageous to suggest, even if I disagree. I still think Robertson is better, but Tsimikas is clearly a very good player.

[Since90+2]

You're on the wind up.

Opinions mate, like ********s eh, everyone's got one.

[Stuart93]

Don't see why its so outrageous to suggest, even if I disagree. I still think Robertson is better, but Tsimikas is clearly a very good player.

Well surely it’s a tad outrageous to suggest one of the best left backs in the world is going to become a squad player and someone you think isn’t as good is going to take his place?

[Since90+2]

Well surely it’s a tad outrageous to suggest one of the best left backs in the world is going to become a squad player and someone you think isn’t as good is going to take his place?

Robertson is overrated IMO. He gets a pass as he's Scottish.

He plays in an exceptional Liverpool team where good players can be made to look outstanding by the truly world class players in the side.

He's a good player that's without question, but his performances for Scotland show that he's a guy who's been elevated by his teammates, rather than a player who elevates his teammates, which is what the truly world class players do.

[AugustaHibs]

Robertson is overrated IMO. He gets a pass as he's Scottish.

He plays in an exceptional Liverpool team where good players can be made to look outstanding by the truly world class players in the side.

He's a good player that's without question, but his performances for Scotland show that he's a guy who's been elevated by his teammates, rather than a player who elevates his teammates, which is what the truly world class players do.

Agreed.

Guy also seems like a throbber and makes it easy to dislike him.

[MWHIBBIES]

Well surely it’s a tad outrageous to suggest one of the best left backs in the world is going to become a squad player and someone you think isn’t as good is going to take his place?

I don't think he is as good based on what I've seen. but there isn't miles between them, Robertson could easily lose his place if his form drops.

[Since452]

Robertson is overrated IMO. He gets a pass as he's Scottish.

He plays in an exceptional Liverpool team where good players can be made to look outstanding by the truly world class players in the side.

He's a good player that's without question, but his performances for Scotland show that he's a guy who's been elevated by his teammates, rather than a player who elevates his teammates, which is what the truly world class players do.

I don't watch Liverpool or English football in general but is he not a regular for them? A team that is trying to win the Champions League and league tiltles every season in the so called best league in the world? Is he really overratted?

[Brightside]

Robertson overrated is a cracking take. Don't think you will find many Liverpool fans agreeing with you.

[Nicho87]

Robertson

Would he have been pictured on the lash with scotland team mates 4 days before a champions league final - the response from liverpool fans would have caused uproar

because it was the other way about however, all ok

Would strip him of the scotland captaincy instantly.

[RyeSloan]

I don't think he is as good based on what I've seen. but there isn't miles between them, Robertson could easily lose his place if his form drops.

You could say that about any player!

Robertson has been class for Liverpool who at the same time have been one of the best teams in Europe.

You don’t play regularly in a side like that unless you are very very good.

[MWHIBBIES]

You could say that about any player!

Robertson has been class for Liverpool who at the same time have been one of the best teams in Europe.

You don’t play regularly in a side like that unless you are very very good.

I haven't said one bad word about Robertson. I think he is world class. Read my posts.

[flash]

We signing Andy Robertson?

Got to be happy with that.

[Stuart93]

We signing Andy Robertson?

Got to be happy with that.

Na, some think he’s overrated

[RyeSloan]

I haven't said one bad word about Robertson. I think he is world class. Read my posts.

I did read your posts that’s why I said you could say any player could be dropped if their form falters!

I wasn’t looking for an argument just making a simple point. [emoji106]

[RyeSloan]

We signing Andy Robertson?

Got to be happy with that.

Would he get past Lewis for a starting berth though, that’s the real question here [emoji2957]

[GreenPJ]

Robertson is overrated IMO. He gets a pass as he's Scottish.

He plays in an exceptional Liverpool team where good players can be made to look outstanding by the truly world class players in the side.

He's a good player that's without question, but his performances for Scotland show that he's a guy who's been elevated by his teammates, rather than a player who elevates his teammates, which is what the truly world class players do.

Would the Greek boy elevate VVD, Salah etc? I don't doubt that if he has a dip in form he will be liable to be dropped but still fully expect that with his work ethic, ability and personality he has in that team that he would work his way back into the starting line up relatively quickly.

[04Sauzee]

Where did McGeady go on holiday? Seems to have been away forever 😁

[easty]

Robertson is overrated IMO. He gets a pass as he's Scottish.

He plays in an exceptional Liverpool team where good players can be made to look outstanding by the truly world class players in the side.

He's a good player that's without question, but his performances for Scotland show that he's a guy who's been elevated by his teammates, rather than a player who elevates his teammates, which is what the truly world class players do.

He gets a pass from who because he's Scottish? His German manager Jurgen Klopp? The Liverpool fans? The numerous sports reporters who write about him being the best left back in the world?

[HoboHarry]

Maybe Klopp has brought in Tsimikas and Ramsay from Aberdeen because he's decided that Robertson and Alexander Arnold are a pair of huddies and need catapulted into the Championship because that's their level? :faf:

[Bostonhibby]

We signing Andy Robertson?

Got to be happy with that.Matty Jack role?

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