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BigKev
22-07-2022, 03:12 PM
What nonsense. Capitalist owned club doesn’t do basics on suspended player on Tuesday. Hearts not doing badly, as are Motherwell, St Mirren, ….let me see… oh Barcelona. Fan owned club hire professionals to run the club in a business like professional manner
Hearts and St Mirren have been under fan ownership for 5 minutes.
Barca are hundreds of millions of €’s in debt.
Motherwell are the only ones doing reasonably well after a couple of years. Mainly due to player sales. David Turnbull to Celtic bring the main one.
Hibernian Verse
22-07-2022, 03:17 PM
Hearts and St Mirren have been under fan ownership for 5 minutes.
Barca are hundreds of millions of €’s in debt.
Motherwell are the only ones doing reasonably well after a couple of years. Mainly due to player sales. David Turnbull to Celtic bring the main one.
Motherwell also just lost to Sligo Rovers in a qualifier.
flash
22-07-2022, 03:19 PM
What nonsense. Capitalist owned club doesn’t do basics on suspended player on Tuesday. Hearts not doing badly, as are Motherwell, St Mirren, ….let me see… oh Barcelona. Fan owned club hire professionals to run the club in a business like professional manner
That's working out well for Barcelona.
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 03:20 PM
A fit McGennis would be a God send right now. Greg Docherty, who went to Hull after a loan with us, he'd be a great addition in my humble.
Greg Docherty would be the best player outside the old firm imo.
Way out our league unfortunately.
Since452
22-07-2022, 03:21 PM
Motherwell also just lost to Sligo Rovers in a qualifier.
Shocker. Puts our draw with Morton into perspective.
Since452
22-07-2022, 03:24 PM
Greg Docherty would be the best player outside the old firm imo.
Way out our league unfortunately.
Largely annonymous when he was here. Wouldn't be rushing to bring him back. Would be nowhere near the best player outside the OF.
green with envy
22-07-2022, 03:28 PM
Shocker. Puts our draw with Morton into perspective.
We lost 3-0.🙈😉
Broken Gnome
22-07-2022, 03:35 PM
Largely annonymous when he was here. Wouldn't be rushing to bring him back. Would be nowhere near the best player outside the OF.
Omeonga, Docherty and....
Who was the third midfielder that was going to rip the arse out of Hearts in the last game before lockdown, yet all three completely vanished?
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 03:37 PM
Largely annonymous when he was here. Wouldn't be rushing to bring him back. Would be nowhere near the best player outside the OF.
He played 8 games and had 8 direct goal involvements from centre mid with 3 goals and 5 assists. I do remember him having one especially poor game but imo he was generally excellent. He also played 90 minutes (or 89 in one case) every game he ever played for us other than his debut where he started on the bench. If you look at his career since that’s pretty much the story of it - near enough never injured and 90 minutes the vast majority of games.
Just seen broken gnomes post and it would have been the derby that was his poor game.
I don’t see a player in anyone outside the OFs teams that’s at his level imo.
Haymaker
22-07-2022, 03:38 PM
He certainly is, 2 footed as well, his dad should be invited to EM to work with our strikers for a few hours each week.
... so you're saying he's returning?! :hyper
WestStandWillie
22-07-2022, 03:46 PM
As long as this new centre half is experienced and has had a pre season under his belt, that’ll do for me.
bingo70
22-07-2022, 04:02 PM
As long as this new centre half is experienced and has had a pre season under his belt, that’ll do for me.
What if he’s ***** but experienced and had a pre season? 😃
chippy
22-07-2022, 04:04 PM
Hearts and St Mirren have been under fan ownership for 5 minutes.
Barca are hundreds of millions of €’s in debt.
Motherwell are the only ones doing reasonably well after a couple of years. Mainly due to player sales. David Turnbull to Celtic bring the main one.
Barca done rather well historically. Quote a few German clubs with majority fan shares afaik. It’s capitalist owned clubs that go bust. Can’t recall a fan owned club going bust. Can’t see Barca not surviving , big debts but huge world wide support and investor s probably desperate to get involved
Ringothedog
22-07-2022, 04:05 PM
What if he’s ***** but experienced and had a pre season? 😃
But but but if he is experienced how can he be ****, surely only inexperienced players can be ****e
I don’t care what age or experience they have as long as they improve the Hibs team
Ringothedog
22-07-2022, 04:11 PM
Barca done rather well historically. Quote a few German clubs with majority fan shares afaik. It’s capitalist owned clubs that go bust. Can’t recall a fan owned club going bust. Can’t see Barca not surviving , big debts but huge world wide support and investor s probably desperate to get involved
What is a capitalist owned club, is that similar to a socialist or communist owned club?
As you are more than aware very few clubs in Britain never mind Scotland are fan owned. We had our chance but our fans had no appetite for ownership. We just have to suck it up as it’s not changing anytime soon
Percy Vere
22-07-2022, 04:17 PM
Kyle Magennis:
Hibs are hoping that his latest minor op on his groin will have him back in a couple of wks. He's been a significant investment. If he doesn't reach a number of games within a certain period the club has a clause they can activate in his contract. Impeccable source
Bollocks
Wilson
22-07-2022, 04:19 PM
Bollocks
Thought it was his groin.
Hibiza
22-07-2022, 04:22 PM
Kyle Magennis:
Hibs are hoping that his latest minor op on his groin will have him back in a couple of wks. He's been a significant investment. If he doesn't reach a number of games within a certain period the club has a clause they can activate in his contract. Impeccable source
Activate what ?
Eaststand
22-07-2022, 04:24 PM
W uta dokey I
Emmm, I'm really crap at guessing what does your message mean Billy ?
GGTTH
neil7908
22-07-2022, 04:25 PM
W uta dokey I
Best post on here all month 😂😂
Billy Whizz
22-07-2022, 04:28 PM
Emmm, I'm really crap at guessing what does your message mean Billy ?
GGTTH
No idea how this got on, phone was in my pocket😳
Ringothedog
22-07-2022, 04:32 PM
Best post on here all month 😂😂
His post is Probably the most sensible for a while on here
Eaststand
22-07-2022, 04:35 PM
No idea how this got on, phone was in my pocket😳
Aha, I actually thought it was one of your better posts too 😎
Only joking, I always enjoy reading your posts and thought it was maybe a new text acronym or something.
GGTTH
Bayern Bru
22-07-2022, 04:39 PM
Omeonga, Docherty and....
Who was the third midfielder that was going to rip the arse out of Hearts in the last game before lockdown, yet all three completely vanished?
Scott Allan?
Last *home* game before Covid - they still had time to get horsed 3-1 at Aberdeen four days after the derby
bingo70
22-07-2022, 04:56 PM
But but but if he is experienced how can he be ****, surely only inexperienced players can be ****e
I don’t care what age or experience they have as long as they improve the Hibs team
A lot being said just now about needing experience but I don’t see it. Looking at the probably starting 11 versus St Johnstone we’ll probably include the following….
Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Rocky
Cabreja or Stevenson
Newell
JDH (he might not be a certain starter)
McGeady
Henderson
Youann or Doidge.
On top of that we also have Hanlon, Magennis and Nisbet to come back.
All of those players have loads of first team experience. Where is it coming from that we need experience? If we can add to the above experience with young guys like Taveras, Bojang, Kenneh etc then that’s a decent balance. We need good players, it’s that simple. Experience or age isn’t needed, we’ve got loads of experience in the squad.
Callum_62
22-07-2022, 05:39 PM
A lot being said just now about needing experience but I don’t see it. Looking at the probably starting 11 versus St Johnstone we’ll probably include the following….
Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Rocky
Cabreja or Stevenson
Newell
JDH (he might not be a certain starter)
McGeady
Henderson
Youann or Doidge.
On top of that we also have Hanlon, Magennis and Nisbet to come back.
All of those players have loads of first team experience. Where is it coming from that we need experience? If we can add to the above experience with young guys like Taveras, Bojang, Kenneh etc then that’s a decent balance. We need good players, it’s that simple. Experience or age isn’t needed, we’ve got loads of experience in the squad.Agree totally
We already have loads of experience in the squad
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blackpoolhibs
22-07-2022, 05:44 PM
We need better players, age doesn't really matter if they are better than we currently have.
worcesterhibby
22-07-2022, 05:52 PM
A lot being said just now about needing experience but I don’t see it. Looking at the probably starting 11 versus St Johnstone we’ll probably include the following….
Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Rocky
Cabreja or Stevenson
Newell
JDH (he might not be a certain starter)
McGeady
Henderson
Youann or Doidge.
On top of that we also have Hanlon, Magennis and Nisbet to come back.
All of those players have loads of first team experience. Where is it coming from that we need experience? If we can add to the above experience with young guys like Taveras, Bojang, Kenneh etc then that’s a decent balance. We need good players, it’s that simple. Experience or age isn’t needed, we’ve got loads of experience in the squad.
Exactly, drop one of the midfield and stick Wayne Rooney aged 17 before he played his first professional game and he would blow the place apart. What we need are a couple of very good players. Very Good players who are 26, have 300 appearances in a decent league and great leadership qualities will cost about £10 million and expect three times the wages we pay ! It's 2022..we are never going to sign the likes of Sauzee and Latapy again I'm afraid .
Keepthefaith
22-07-2022, 06:29 PM
Exactly, drop one of the midfield and stick Wayne Rooney aged 17 before he played his first professional game and he would blow the place apart. What we need are a couple of very good players. Very Good players who are 26, have 300 appearances in a decent league and great leadership qualities will cost about £10 million and expect three times the wages we pay ! It's 2022..we are never going to sign the likes of Sauzee and Latapy again I'm afraid .
Well said, which is why there's so much investment in the under 18 and development team so we can try and be better at growing our own!
Borderhibbie76
22-07-2022, 06:54 PM
Experience is not the problem out Tom Kite midfield of JDH, Campbell and Newell are the main problem in this side. That and the fact we can't drop a disinterested Porto coz we haven't bothered (as yet) to sign a proper centre half ...signed what is it 11 players? Yet can't address those 2 glaring gaps in the starting 11...utter shambles
HUTCHYHIBBY
22-07-2022, 06:55 PM
I'm struggling here, we've signed a guy from Vanuatu? 😀 Spreading our influence far and wide.
Hibernia&Alba
22-07-2022, 08:14 PM
The Huns signing a left back for £5 million. What murky financial shenanigans are they involved in now? :cb
GreenNWhiteArmy
22-07-2022, 09:37 PM
Need a bit of character and swag
SMAXXA
22-07-2022, 09:38 PM
The Huns signing a left back for £5 million. What murky financial shenanigans are they involved in now? :cb
Apart from the 22m they will get for Bassey as part of his transfer a think 5m isn’t too bad to be spending. Add in Patterson cash and they are no exactly toiling
bingo70
22-07-2022, 09:42 PM
Apart from the 22m they will get for Bassey as part of his transfer a think 5m isn’t too bad to be spending. Add in Patterson cash and they are no exactly toiling
Also just got to a European final.
GreenCastle
22-07-2022, 09:55 PM
A lot being said just now about needing experience but I don’t see it. Looking at the probably starting 11 versus St Johnstone we’ll probably include the following….
Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Rocky
Cabreja or Stevenson
Newell
JDH (he might not be a certain starter)
McGeady
Henderson
Youann or Doidge.
On top of that we also have Hanlon, Magennis and Nisbet to come back.
All of those players have loads of first team experience. Where is it coming from that we need experience? If we can add to the above experience with young guys like Taveras, Bojang, Kenneh etc then that’s a decent balance. We need good players, it’s that simple. Experience or age isn’t needed, we’ve got loads of experience in the squad.
Possibly 8 out of that 11 were here last season!
The team still needs to add fresh faces and ideally with leadership and character.
JammyDoidger
22-07-2022, 10:00 PM
Need a bit of character and swag
This, the team with McGinn, Cummings and Mcgregor etc we could relate to, they got us, we need a wee bit of that back. Would love to have Cummings back if I'm honest. Always felt he was going to score in the big games.
bingo70
22-07-2022, 10:01 PM
Possibly 8 out of that 11 were here last season!
The team still needs to add fresh faces and ideally with leadership and character.
Yeah, it needs fresh faces and quality.
The experience thing is a nonsense though, we’ve loads of experience in the team and the squad.
blackpoolhibs
22-07-2022, 10:10 PM
Yeah, it needs fresh faces and quality.
The experience thing is a nonsense though, we’ve loads of experience in the team and the squad.
Cant argue with any of that, new faces who are better than we currently have in midfield and up front would transform this team, not young players who are not ready for the 1st team.
Lots of calls for several new players which is fine but let’s be serious here, it’s not happening.
We have been told 1-2 maximum more with the assumption several will go on loan and possibly a few leaving.
We have a thread on Campbell at left back, a previous thread on why Rocky maybe isn’t that bad and numerous threads about several players not available due to injury or registration / home office delay. We also have players settling into playing with us for first time.
We are so far away from a settled team it’s frightening.
On one level it might come good but best case it will take several weeks if not months. I am not sure our support have the patience for that and we have a tough league start. Worse case it might fall apart and we end up being nearer the bottom of the league.
There are very few players that can transform an a team. Boyle is one of them. His signing even on loan could give us the lift and impact that might help get us through August.
I hate to say it but trying to be objective but we look like the Cathro then Levein 2017-19 transfer bingo **** show.
GreenCastle
22-07-2022, 10:23 PM
Yeah, it needs fresh faces and quality.
The experience thing is a nonsense though, we’ve loads of experience in the team and the squad.
I think leadership is the key - obviously with some quality but players who won’t be bullied and will get the fans going plus bring others on with them.
Hibby Kay-Yay
22-07-2022, 10:31 PM
We can’t expect to have a poor season then expect an instant turn around. Unless we spend some serious cash.
Our league is pretty poor beneath the top two. Look at how close the gap was for top 4 and bottom 4 last season.
Yeah we’ve had a couple of dicey results but at least give LJ some time here to turn it around and get his stamp on this team.
One Day Soon
22-07-2022, 10:39 PM
Experience is not the problem out Tom Kite midfield of JDH, Campbell and Newell are the main problem in this side. That and the fact we can't drop a disinterested Porto coz we haven't bothered (as yet) to sign a proper centre half ...signed what is it 11 players? Yet can't address those 2 glaring gaps in the starting 11...utter shambles
This
One Day Soon
22-07-2022, 10:39 PM
Need a bit of character and swag
And this.
21sMay
22-07-2022, 10:41 PM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
Hibernia&Alba
22-07-2022, 10:45 PM
Apart from the 22m they will get for Bassey as part of his transfer a think 5m isn’t too bad to be spending. Add in Patterson cash and they are no exactly toiling
Also just got to a European final.
I don't trust them. Soft loans, huge overheads and wage bill, but now spending millions on a full back, like Oldco used to. They are up to something :cb
One Day Soon
22-07-2022, 10:49 PM
Right now it feels to me like we are betting the bank on Magennis getting injury free, match fit and playing a full season. I don’t see otherwise how our midfield is going to be transformed, without new signings, which it needs to be.
Has anyone asked LJ yet what his timescales are for getting us playing in the style he wants? Does he think what he has a enough?
JohnM1875
22-07-2022, 10:51 PM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
Really hope that's true! Exactly what we need.
Callum_62
22-07-2022, 10:52 PM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan dealHe would be a top signing for sure
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Big_Franck
22-07-2022, 10:53 PM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
I doubt we'd come anywhere close to being able to match Kenny McLean's Norwich wage. He'd be a good signing but I really can't see it.
GreenNWhiteArmy
22-07-2022, 11:04 PM
This, the team with McGinn, Cummings and Mcgregor etc we could relate to, they got us, we need a wee bit of that back. Would love to have Cummings back if I'm honest. Always felt he was going to score in the big games.
Even Boyle offered something after these guys left. Just feels a bit meh at the moment. There's opportunity for growth over the next 3 years, but we need something now. Hopefully tsvares and youan get us off our seat. Bit we need someone that is 100 miles an hour with a bit passion
GreenNWhiteArmy
22-07-2022, 11:06 PM
Kenny McLean would be a huge signing
Please be true
Hibernia&Alba
22-07-2022, 11:07 PM
I doubt we'd come anywhere close to being able to match Kenny McLean's Norwich wage. He'd be a good signing but I really can't see it.
Agreed, it would be a very tough deal to get agreed. Here's hoping anyway.
Unseen work
22-07-2022, 11:11 PM
McLean will be on an absolute fortune and played over 30 times in the Prem last season
If he was to leave Norwich he’d have a pick of championship clubs after him.
Absolutely no chance.
Would love to be wrong.
McGruber
22-07-2022, 11:18 PM
We are not signing Kenny McLean. Would be great it if we did, but we are simply not. Love to be wrong of course.
04Sauzee
22-07-2022, 11:31 PM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
30 appearances for Norwich in the English premier League and 1 year left on his contract. I'd obviously be delighted buy really can't see it. Like others I'd love to be wrong
cameronw-hfc
22-07-2022, 11:38 PM
We are not signing Kenny McLean. Would be great it if we did, but we are simply not. Love to be wrong of course.
Just asked a boy I follow on Twitter that's a Norwich fan. He said it's surprising as he's usually a starter, however he's not as well rated there. Surprised me he said "we've signed 2cms but he somehow always ends up starting regardless".
Can imagine this is a load of rubbish if he's still in the plans, albeit to the dismay of the fans.
phoenixfire
22-07-2022, 11:47 PM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
He will be on a good wage there so doubt it will happen! But thanks for telling us:aok: !
phoenixfire
23-07-2022, 12:32 AM
Just asked a boy I follow on Twitter that's a Norwich fan. He said it's surprising as he's usually a starter, however he's not as well rated there. Surprised me he said "we've signed 2cms but he somehow always ends up starting regardless".
Can imagine this is a load of rubbish if he's still in the plans, albeit to the dismay of the fans.
What kinda midfielder is he? Can't say I remember him ! Was he attacking midfielder?
cameronw-hfc
23-07-2022, 12:36 AM
What kinda midfielder is he? Can't say I remember him ! Was he attacking midfielder?
Traditional CM. Good left foot, bit of a cultured box to box player or a deeper playmaker but seriously doubt it's even happening.
No Europe means it's even more unlikely, he'd have Hearts, Aberdeen etc all after him if he was coming back, can't see any reason he'd come to us.
He's also a diehard rangers fan and nearly signed when Gerrard took over, I really don't think there's a hope in hell this is happening.
Haymaker
23-07-2022, 04:45 AM
:hyper
IvanSproule
23-07-2022, 04:58 AM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan dealI'd maybe stop listening to that source fella! Can't see any way we will be signing a guy that just played 30 games in the prem.
Appreciate you posting what you heard anyway! Hope I have to eat my words.
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Cant argue with any of that, new faces who are better than we currently have in midfield and up front would transform this team, not young players who are not ready for the 1st team.
The midfield is severely lacking in pace and energy, the showpony being one, whoever gave him an extension needs slapped. Experience is all relative, we seen when he's fit how good Magennis can be and he's still a young lad, Henderson is now showing what he's capable of and still young, it's quality and not just experience we need.
Sl1010
23-07-2022, 06:16 AM
10 years ago we signed Leigh Griffiths. Today we could and SHOULD sign him again. We need him.
Seriously man shut up about Griffith's. You're like a ****ing broken record and he's past it, just accept it and move on for everyone's sake.
Paulie Walnuts
23-07-2022, 06:36 AM
Can’t see any way we could get McLean.
Percy Vere
23-07-2022, 06:58 AM
No idea how this got on, phone was in my pocket😳
You should leave it there more often!
Percy Vere
23-07-2022, 07:05 AM
We can’t expect to have a poor season then expect an instant turn around. Unless we spend some serious cash.
Our league is pretty poor beneath the top two. Look at how close the gap was for top 4 and bottom 4 last season.
Yeah we’ve had a couple of dicey results but at least give LJ some time here to turn it around and get his stamp on this team.
What he said.
This team is in its infancy and it will take weeks before we see more consistency and the type of football LJ is aspiring to. We need to get behind him and the players. Another managerial merry go round would make Hibs a laughing stock. Not to mention a team in constant flux. Let’s see what the first three - six months brings. I’m hopeful it will turn around.
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
Nice one and I think it's feasible. KM will be 31 this season. One last chance for a gpod signing on fee, a return to Scotland keeping him firmly in Clarke's eye. I also assume given BK's Norwich connection that if it was a non runner it would have been quashed right away. Thanks for sharing.
PS, no one thought Liam Miller or Stokes would sign either.
Juice-Terry
23-07-2022, 07:22 AM
We can’t expect to have a poor season then expect an instant turn around. Unless we spend some serious cash.
Our league is pretty poor beneath the top two. Look at how close the gap was for top 4 and bottom 4 last season.
Yeah we’ve had a couple of dicey results but at least give LJ some time here to turn it around and get his stamp on this team.
Why not? Happened to Hertz.
DC_Hibs
23-07-2022, 07:31 AM
Nice one and I think it's feasible. KM will be 31 this season. One last chance for a gpod signing on fee, a return to Scotland keeping him firmly in Clarke's eye. I also assume given BK's Norwich connection that if it was a non runner it would have been quashed right away. Thanks for sharing.
PS, no one thought Liam Miller or Stokes would sign either.
Quashed where? On this messageboard as that’s likely the only place this has ever been discussed!!
I read an article a week or two back - from a Norwich journalist - that said he was expected to be a key man for Norwich in their championship season despite fan reservations. Wasn’t aware then he’d played as many premier league games either.
If he was unwanted down there then we’d maybe be in luck that they’d still take the hit on a chunk of his wages for a loan deal but it’s the same manager who just played him regularly and they’re now a division lower. He’s a year or two too young for us to have any chance of getting on a Hibs wage and if he was deemed surplus then he’d still get better offer from us. I’d expect down south and if not then Aberdeen - his former club - would likely offer more as is the norm
Iain G
23-07-2022, 07:35 AM
Can’t see any way we could get McLean.
We would have to Try Hard with a Vengeance to get McLean
Sir David Gray
23-07-2022, 07:56 AM
Right now it feels to me like we are betting the bank on Magennis getting injury free, match fit and playing a full season. I don’t see otherwise how our midfield is going to be transformed, without new signings, which it needs to be.
Has anyone asked LJ yet what his timescales are for getting us playing in the style he wants? Does he think what he has a enough?
He recently said in an interview "I don't think you'll be able to see the true 'us' until ten or 12 games in because that won't be ready.
"It doesn't mean we can't win football matches, by the way, and most clubs will be experiencing this in their own way."
I'm not sure if that's just 10-12 league matches or if we're now 4 games into that sequence, either way if Johnson is correct it will be at least September before we see the true Hibs team.
flash
23-07-2022, 08:02 AM
He recently said in an interview "I don't think you'll be able to see the true 'us' until ten or 12 games in because that won't be ready.
"It doesn't mean we can't win football matches, by the way, and most clubs will be experiencing this in their own way."
I'm not sure if that's just 10-12 league matches or if we're now 4 games into that sequence, either way if Johnson is correct it will be at least September before we see the true Hibs team.
Which seems reasonable if you are bedding several new players in on top of implementing a new playing style.
Jakhog1
23-07-2022, 08:02 AM
We would have to Try Hard with a Vengeance to get McLean
Could seem him getting his hands grubbier over at the tynecastle plaza.
Paulie Walnuts
23-07-2022, 08:04 AM
He recently said in an interview "I don't think you'll be able to see the true 'us' until ten or 12 games in because that won't be ready.
"It doesn't mean we can't win football matches, by the way, and most clubs will be experiencing this in their own way."
I'm not sure if that's just 10-12 league matches or if we're now 4 games into that sequence, either way if Johnson is correct it will be at least September before we see the true Hibs team.
I think that’s fair enough. In some ways, I’d say it’s potentially even optimistically quick.
I just hope (and I’m not for a second saying he is) that he’s not expecting to get away with a terrible run in that period. He needs to make the first 10-12 games work with what he has, even if it’s not his team playing in the way that he wants.
We can’t end up 12 games into the season, miles off top 4 and then hope to turn it round and catch them.
flash
23-07-2022, 08:11 AM
We would have to Try Hard with a Vengeance to get McLean
Yippee kay yay! Better stop there before the swear filter kicks in.
RyeSloan
23-07-2022, 08:42 AM
I think that’s fair enough. In some ways, I’d say it’s potentially even optimistically quick.
I just hope (and I’m not for a second saying he is) that he’s not expecting to get away with a terrible run in that period. He needs to make the first 10-12 games work with what he has, even if it’s not his team playing in the way that he wants.
We can’t end up 12 games into the season, miles off top 4 and then hope to turn it round and catch them.
Totally.
Different level I know but look at Klopp at Liverpool..a lot of pundits snickered at his high line / high press stuff for quite sometime before he moulded the team into the best (or thereabouts) in Europe.
We can’t expect LJ to transform this team in one window and suddenly have the squad playing as one cohesive team fully implementing his ideas.
As you say 10 - 12 games seems optimistic and LJ has already went on record that actually the TRUE timescale is 3 - 4 transfer windows.
But as you say that’s all well n good and probably accurate but the trick is to be ‘good enough’ during those phases to make sure he is actually still around to see the job through.
Alex Trager
23-07-2022, 08:45 AM
I've posted about a midfielder a few times that we where definitely trying to get done . Was told it was very close this week but obviously nothing has came out as of yet . Much like the Steven Fletcher one I mentioned in January.
I'm only passing on what I'm told from someone very close to the club and would never expect to tell me stuff without any substance .
The midfielder is Kenny McLean , we have tried to get him in permanently at first but are now looking at a loan deal
Fair play to you mate.
Hope it’s true, would be a great signing
One Day Soon
23-07-2022, 08:52 AM
He recently said in an interview "I don't think you'll be able to see the true 'us' until ten or 12 games in because that won't be ready.
"It doesn't mean we can't win football matches, by the way, and most clubs will be experiencing this in their own way."
I'm not sure if that's just 10-12 league matches or if we're now 4 games into that sequence, either way if Johnson is correct it will be at least September before we see the true Hibs team.
I can certainly live with that - actually I think it’s perhaps a naively short timescale - provided we can see the signs of improvement during those games. Haven’t seen it in the first four so things need to start to look different pretty quickly.
worcesterhibby
23-07-2022, 08:58 AM
Totally.
Different level I know but look at Klopp at Liverpool..a lot of pundits snickered at his high line / high press stuff for quite sometime before he moulded the team into the best (or thereabouts) in Europe.
We can’t expect LJ to transform this team in one window and suddenly have the squad playing as one cohesive team fully implementing his ideas.
As you say 10 - 12 games seems optimistic and LJ has already went on record that actually the TRUE timescale is 3 - 4 transfer windows.
But as you say that’s all well n good and probably accurate but the trick is to be ‘good enough’ during those phases to make sure he is actually still around to see the job through.
good post. What baffles me about elements of our support is that they are happy to say “ we are a disgrace, need a total clear out..not one decent player” at the end of last year..yet they expect the new manager to have completely turned things around in half a dozen games and start suggesting LJ’s in danger of being sacked despite most of the new players not being available. Martin Boyle as a huge reason for out relative success under Jack Ross, it had taken 7 years to get Martin Boyle to that stage, you can’t buy players of that level with Hibs finances, you have to create them from rough diamonds. The midfield is definitely lacking the drive and quality we need and we obviously need at least one more centre half, but actually getting hold of the players we need of the required experience and quality is bloody hard. It will take time and it will be harder to achieve if the manager, players and staff at Easter Road are under a constant barrage of abuse. The team are the ones who can really bring the feel good factor back…but we are going to have to help them and be patient.
Quashed where? On this messageboard as that’s likely the only place this has ever been discussed!!
I read an article a week or two back - from a Norwich journalist - that said he was expected to be a key man for Norwich in their championship season despite fan reservations. Wasn’t aware then he’d played as many premier league games either.
If he was unwanted down there then we’d maybe be in luck that they’d still take the hit on a chunk of his wages for a loan deal but it’s the same manager who just played him regularly and they’re now a division lower. He’s a year or two too young for us to have any chance of getting on a Hibs wage and if he was deemed surplus then he’d still get better offer from us. I’d expect down south and if not then Aberdeen - his former club - would likely offer more as is the norm
I didn't express it very well. What I meant was BK will know KM's earnings at Norwich and his potential earnings at ER. If he didn't think it was feasible it wouldn't have reached this stage, even tho as you rightly say it's only Hibs Net. However I believe the OP is 100% acting in good faith and kudos to him for sharing.
SlickShoes
23-07-2022, 09:12 AM
I didn't express it very well. What I meant was BK will know KM's earnings at Norwich and his potential earnings at ER. If he didn't think it was feasible it wouldn't have reached this stage, even tho as you rightly say it's only Hibs Net. However I believe the OP is 100% acting in good faith and kudos to him for sharing.
How can BK stop something that isn’t happening?
good post. What baffles me about elements of our support is that they are happy to say “ we are a disgrace, need a total clear out..not one decent player” at the end of last year..yet they expect the new manager to have completely turned things around in half a dozen games and start suggesting LJ’s in danger of being sacked despite most of the new players not being available. Martin Boyle as a huge reason for out relative success under Jack Ross, it had taken 7 years to get Martin Boyle to that stage, you can’t buy players of that level with Hibs finances, you have to create them from rough diamonds. The midfield is definitely lacking the drive and quality we need and we obviously need at least one more centre half, but actually getting hold of the players we need of the required experience and quality is bloody hard. It will take time and it will be harder to achieve if the manager, players and staff at Easter Road are under a constant barrage of abuse. The team are the ones who can really bring the feel good factor back…but we are going to have to help them and be patient.
Yip.
Same folk slating the players last season will be the first to turn on the manager this year, with largely the same player base.
Best ignored.
mcfly
23-07-2022, 09:28 AM
good post. What baffles me about elements of our support is that they are happy to say “ we are a disgrace, need a total clear out..not one decent player” at the end of last year..yet they expect the new manager to have completely turned things around in half a dozen games and start suggesting LJ’s in danger of being sacked despite most of the new players not being available. Martin Boyle as a huge reason for out relative success under Jack Ross, it had taken 7 years to get Martin Boyle to that stage, you can’t buy players of that level with Hibs finances, you have to create them from rough diamonds. The midfield is definitely lacking the drive and quality we need and we obviously need at least one more centre half, but actually getting hold of the players we need of the required experience and quality is bloody hard. It will take time and it will be harder to achieve if the manager, players and staff at Easter Road are under a constant barrage of abuse. The team are the ones who can really bring the feel good factor back…but we are going to have to help them and be patient.
I get your point but how patient do we have to be?
Why is it other clubs new signings hit the ground running yet we have to be patient and wait for our new players to develop.
Football fans expect success straightaway- it’s the way we are.
I understand we have a budget but we need experience and a bit more quality.
Centre half and centre midfielder please.
B.H.F.C
23-07-2022, 09:38 AM
good post. What baffles me about elements of our support is that they are happy to say “ we are a disgrace, need a total clear out..not one decent player” at the end of last year..yet they expect the new manager to have completely turned things around in half a dozen games and start suggesting LJ’s in danger of being sacked despite most of the new players not being available. Martin Boyle as a huge reason for out relative success under Jack Ross, it had taken 7 years to get Martin Boyle to that stage, you can’t buy players of that level with Hibs finances, you have to create them from rough diamonds. The midfield is definitely lacking the drive and quality we need and we obviously need at least one more centre half, but actually getting hold of the players we need of the required experience and quality is bloody hard. It will take time and it will be harder to achieve if the manager, players and staff at Easter Road are under a constant barrage of abuse. The team are the ones who can really bring the feel good factor back…but we are going to have to help them and be patient.
I think folk are happy to be patient to an extent. I don’t think anybody sensible expects us to be paying to our full potential straight away. But you need to see signs of something coming together and, in the League Cup, we didn’t see that. That’s where the impatience and the questions then come in. I also think a lot of the impatience that does exist is because a lot of people don’t believe we’ve addressed the key issue from last season, despite signing a large number of players.
SlickShoes
23-07-2022, 09:49 AM
I get your point but how patient do we have to be?
Why is it other clubs new signings hit the ground running yet we have to be patient and wait for our new players to develop.
Football fans expect success straightaway- it’s the way we are.
I understand we have a budget but we need experience and a bit more quality.
Centre half and centre midfielder please.
I think you’ll find many clubs sign players that aren’t instantly good you just don’t watch them as closely as you do with hibs players
21sMay
23-07-2022, 10:00 AM
I had the same thoughts as most in this board when was first told about it. It was continually brought up from the person , saying we had originally made contact when Maloney was in charge . I didn't want to post as it's a bit far fetched but hearts managed to bring Naismith back to Scotland( different circumstances I know) . Fingers crossed it comes to something
Springbank
23-07-2022, 10:29 AM
On the Kenny McLean thing (not specific to KM but as a general point) Hibs have the benefit of being located in one of the best cities in Europe for folk in their 30s who have made their decent coin already.
If their partners studying (think Efe Ambrose) Edinburgh is one of the top 15 unis on the face of the earth
If they have kids, Edinburgh has the most educated population in Europe (source: Eurostat, July 2022)
The club & the city offers a great opportunity on & off the pitch, though the key factor will always be money.
If KM (as others) have made a good wedge such that they are in a position to prioritise lifestyle / education etc then Hibs have a major edge over backwater Brexit Britain places like Norwich
One Day Soon
23-07-2022, 10:46 AM
On the Kenny McLean thing (not specific to KM but as a general point) Hibs have the benefit of being located in one of the best cities in Europe for folk in their 30s who have made their decent coin already.
If their partners studying (think Efe Ambrose) Edinburgh is one of the top 15 unis on the face of the earth
If they have kids, Edinburgh has the most educated population in Europe (source: Eurostat, July 2022)
The club & the city offers a great opportunity on & off the pitch, though the key factor will always be money.
If KM (as others) have made a good wedge such that they are in a position to prioritise lifestyle / education etc then Hibs have a major edge over backwater Brexit Britain places like Norwich
I agree with most of that post until the end. Incredibly patronising about Norwich and East Anglia (in fact exactly the sort of comment some people like to complain is made about some in rUK about Scotland). Everywhere in the UK is Brexit Britain. Edinburgh massively punches above its weight as a city and should be very attractive but the idea that East Anglia isn’t an attractive place for lifestyle/education is way off. And Norwich have a massively bigger budget than us.
JohnM1875
23-07-2022, 10:48 AM
Can see a loan making sense for McLean. Think he's heading into the last year of his contract there. They've apparently bought a few more CM's recently so game time might be low. Go out on loan whilst still receiving the final year of your bumper contact with Hibs paying what we can.
Really hope it happens.
Billy Whizz
23-07-2022, 10:49 AM
I agree with most of that post until the end. Incredibly patronising about Norwich and East Anglia (in fact exactly the sort of comment some people like to complain is made about some in rUK about Scotland). Everywhere in the UK is Brexit Britain. Edinburgh massively punches above its weight as a city and should be very attractive but the idea that East Anglia isn’t an attractive place for lifestyle/education is way off. And Norwich have a massively bigger budget than us.
They do and most of it comes from TV money
Think I read that around £90m of their £120m or so came from the TV Deal
McLean being ex St Mirren, must have a chance of being at Hibs sometime😀
S4uzee
23-07-2022, 10:50 AM
Can see a loan making sense for McLean. Think he's heading into the last year of his contract there. They've apparently bought a few more CM's recently so game time might be low. Go out on loan whilst still receiving the final year of your bumper contact with Hibs paying what we can.
Really hope it happens.
I’d be astonished if he was anywhere near hibs
IberianHibernian
23-07-2022, 10:50 AM
On the Kenny McLean thing (not specific to KM but as a general point) Hibs have the benefit of being located in one of the best cities in Europe for folk in their 30s who have made their decent coin already.
If their partners studying (think Efe Ambrose) Edinburgh is one of the top 15 unis on the face of the earth
If they have kids, Edinburgh has the most educated population in Europe (source: Eurostat, July 2022)
The club & the city offers a great opportunity on & off the pitch, though the key factor will always be money.
If KM (as others) have made a good wedge such that they are in a position to prioritise lifestyle / education etc then Hibs have a major edge over backwater Brexit Britain places like NorwichNorwich has been voted several times in recent years the best city in UK to live in.
blackpoolhibs
23-07-2022, 10:53 AM
Ive been to Norwich many times, and it really is a nice part of the country. Norwich is quite small, and 5 minutes in a car and you are into some lovely countryside and very nice villages.
Bostonhibby
23-07-2022, 10:59 AM
I agree with most of that post until the end. Incredibly patronising about Norwich and East Anglia (in fact exactly the sort of comment some people like to complain is made about some in rUK about Scotland). Everywhere in the UK is Brexit Britain. Edinburgh massively punches above its weight as a city and should be very attractive but the idea that East Anglia isn’t an attractive place for lifestyle/education is way off. And Norwich have a massively bigger budget than us.I agree re Norwich, I'm an Edinburgh man through and through, there are many similarities, Norwich is a fine, clean prosperous city with some great landmarks.
The East Anglian region has some brilliant countryside, seaside and open spaces too.
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I agree re Norwich, I'm an Ediburgh man through and through, there are many similarities, Norwich is a fine, clean prosperous city with some great landmarks.
The East Anglian region has some brilliant countryside, seaside and open spaces too.
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Yip lovely city and East Anglia a lovely part of the country 👌
Smartie
23-07-2022, 11:06 AM
Never been the same since they pedestrianised the city centre imo.
Bostonhibby
23-07-2022, 11:07 AM
Never been the same since they pedestrianised the city centre imo.Best Owl sanctuary this side of the A47
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Best Owl sanctuary this side of the A47
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Bet that’s a Hoot!! 🫣
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GloryGlory
23-07-2022, 11:13 AM
Bet that’s a Hoot!! 🫣
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:greengrin
Bostonhibby
23-07-2022, 11:17 AM
Bet that’s a Hoot!! 🫣
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI can see the way this is going, I'm out, off to Swaffham for the day.
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AugustaHibs
23-07-2022, 11:28 AM
Never been the same since they pedestrianised the city centre imo.
The Linton travel tavern is fantastic though mind you.
scuttle
23-07-2022, 11:32 AM
Bet that’s a Hoot!! 🫣
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That’s is that bad ,I’m talon the admins on you
That’s is that bad ,I’m talon the admins on you
Tawnie no dae that.
leith lynx
23-07-2022, 12:03 PM
Never been the same since they pedestrianised the city centre imo.
You people, unbelievable!
leith lynx
23-07-2022, 12:07 PM
The Linton travel tavern is fantastic though mind you.
Equadistant between London and Norwich, that's the real beuty of it!... and remember your 12 inch plate, lovely stuff!
S4uzee
23-07-2022, 12:16 PM
Can see a loan making sense for McLean. Think he's heading into the last year of his contract there. They've apparently bought a few more CM's recently so game time might be low. Go out on loan whilst still receiving the final year of your bumper contact with Hibs paying what we can.
Really hope it happens.
I’d be astonished if he was anywhere near hibs
Coco Bryce
23-07-2022, 12:20 PM
Yip.
Same folk slating the players last season will be the first to turn on the manager this year, with largely the same player base.
Best ignored.
Maybe because our manager is playing the 'same' players that were absolute gash for us last season.
Haymaker
23-07-2022, 12:49 PM
:hyper
NC1875
23-07-2022, 02:28 PM
McLean starts for Norwich against Celtic. No chance he’s coming here
cabbageandribs1875
23-07-2022, 02:41 PM
Norwich have sold a midfielder to a French club and are expecting to make one last signing of the summer to replace him, so i doubt very much they are also selling another midfielder...
(1) John Percy on Twitter: "Norwich midfielder Pierre Lees-Melou is set to sign for #Brest in a deal worth around £3.5m. Medical in France tomorrow. Norwich will look to recruit a replacement in what is expected to be their final signing of the transfer window #ncfc" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1550091205895241730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550091205895241730%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.pinkun.com%2Findex.php %3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl% 3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FJPercyTelegraph%2Fst atus%2F1550091205895241730)
NEXT...
Borderhibbie76
23-07-2022, 02:46 PM
More false hope...cant wait to see JDH, Newell and Campbell as our ###### midfield 3 in Perth next Sat.. utter shambles from the club. That and the fact we still haven't signed a CB
Callum_62
23-07-2022, 02:54 PM
More false hope...cant wait to see JDH, Newell and Campbell as our ###### midfield 3 in Perth next Sat.. utter shambles from the club. That and the fact we still haven't signed a CBWe've signed Rocky and McClelland
That's 2 CBs
Shambles!!!
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overdrive
23-07-2022, 02:56 PM
We've signed Rocky and McClelland
That's 2 CBs
Shambles!!!
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One that was part of the squad last season and wasn’t very good (I accept he’s looked a bit better so far this season) and the other that the club said was signed for the development team, not the first team.
MWHIBBIES
23-07-2022, 02:57 PM
More false hope...cant wait to see JDH, Newell and Campbell as our ###### midfield 3 in Perth next Sat.. utter shambles from the club. That and the fact we still haven't signed a CB
I mean, you'd have to be daft to think McLean was coming here. Even if he came back to Scotland, there's 3 clubs he'd join before even considering Hibs.
B.H.F.C
23-07-2022, 03:07 PM
We've signed Rocky and McClelland
That's 2 CBs
Shambles!!!
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That being the two we’ve signed is why we’re still desperate for a centre half!
No really anything against them, particularly McClelland who wasn’t even signed as a first team player.
DC_Hibs
23-07-2022, 03:09 PM
I mean, you'd have to be daft to think McLean was coming here. Even if he came back to Scotland, there's 3 clubs he'd join before even considering Hibs.
Mentalists.
Just back from the club shop and the queue for McLean lettering on the back of the new shirts was out the door. The Rogic one was even longer.
“NURSE”
NC1875
23-07-2022, 03:14 PM
Would McCarthy on loan be a shout from Celtic ? Dont know if he’s even fit bit with them signing Mooy he’s surely even further down the pecking order.
Bridge hibs
23-07-2022, 03:18 PM
More false hope...cant wait to see JDH, Newell and Campbell as our ###### midfield 3 in Perth next Sat.. utter shambles from the club. That and the fact we still haven't signed a CB
False hope ? I dont think there was ever a chance of Kenny McLean signing for hibs 😀
Hibbyradge
23-07-2022, 03:26 PM
Need a bit of character and swag
Are you suggesting that we turn to burglary?
Hamish
23-07-2022, 03:28 PM
Both central defender rumours this week, Godwin-Malife and Jason Kerr playing today in friendlies, albeit Kerr is on bench.
Hibbyradge
23-07-2022, 03:29 PM
Seriously man shut up about Griffith's. You're like a ****ing broken record and he's past it, just accept it and move on for everyone's sake.
Griffith's what?
We should be told...
Hibbyradge
23-07-2022, 03:33 PM
We would have to Try Hard with a Vengeance to get McLean
Yippee ki-yay melon farmer.
Borderhibbie76
23-07-2022, 04:21 PM
We've signed Rocky and McClelland
That's 2 CBs
Shambles!!!
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You've kind of solidified my point for me really
AlbertK86
23-07-2022, 04:55 PM
good post. What baffles me about elements of our support is that they are happy to say “ we are a disgrace, need a total clear out..not one decent player” at the end of last year..yet they expect the new manager to have completely turned things around in half a dozen games and start suggesting LJ’s in danger of being sacked despite most of the new players not being available. Martin Boyle as a huge reason for out relative success under Jack Ross, it had taken 7 years to get Martin Boyle to that stage, you can’t buy players of that level with Hibs finances, you have to create them from rough diamonds. The midfield is definitely lacking the drive and quality we need and we obviously need at least one more centre half, but actually getting hold of the players we need of the required experience and quality is bloody hard. It will take time and it will be harder to achieve if the manager, players and staff at Easter Road are under a constant barrage of abuse. The team are the ones who can really bring the feel good factor back…but we are going to have to help them and be patient.
Well said
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One Day Soon
23-07-2022, 05:36 PM
More false hope...cant wait to see JDH, Newell and Campbell as our ###### midfield 3 in Perth next Sat.. utter shambles from the club. That and the fact we still haven't signed a CB
I find it completely perplexing that of all the signings we needed to make, the most important was in our midfield and that's where we haven't acted. If as I suspect they think there are alternative solutions to be found via either a fit Magennis or a previously uncoached/untried combination of the others then we are going to have an ugly season which is likely to be pretty brutal from the off.
bigwheel
23-07-2022, 05:45 PM
I find it completely perplexing that of all the signings we needed to make, the most important was in our midfield and that's where we haven't acted. If as I suspect they think there are alternative solutions to be found via either a fit Magennis or a previously uncoached/untried combination of the others then we are going to have an ugly season which is likely to be pretty brutal from the off.
Yep. I wonder if they thought Kenneh was going to be a regular starter and are now realising that he needs more development time ..so searching again …
MagicSwirlingShip
23-07-2022, 06:13 PM
Yep. I wonder if they thought Kenneh was going to be a regular starter and are now realising that he needs more development time ..so searching again …
Or maybe he doesn’t. Lots of people on here seem very quick to write this lad off. Plenty time for him yet
B.H.F.C
23-07-2022, 06:16 PM
Or maybe he doesn’t. Lots of people on here seem very quick to write this lad off. Plenty time for him yet
I don’t really think he’s been written off. But, equally, I don’t think he looks like the answer to our midfield problems right now. Despite that, I think I’d still play him next weekend and give him the opportunity because we can’t just revert to what we’ve had.
bigwheel
23-07-2022, 06:17 PM
Or maybe he doesn’t. Lots of people on here seem very quick to write this lad off. Plenty time for him yet
I’m not writing him off, I agree there is plenty time. But from what we’ve seen so far he doesn’t appear ready to start every week for us yet
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Quadrophenia
23-07-2022, 06:19 PM
Or maybe he doesn’t. Lots of people on here seem very quick to write this lad off. Plenty time for him yet
Agree.he has won a hell of a lot of second balls. A few loose passes but reminds me of Marvin
04Sauzee
23-07-2022, 08:55 PM
Both central defender rumours this week, Godwin-Malife and Jason Kerr playing today in friendlies, albeit Kerr is on bench.
Bernard the other Boy at FGR started on the bench.
LaMotta
23-07-2022, 09:11 PM
I’m not writing him off, I agree there is plenty time. But from what we’ve seen so far he doesn’t appear ready to start every week for us yet
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I don’t really think he’s been written off. But, equally, I don’t think he looks like the answer to our midfield problems right now. Despite that, I think I’d still play him next weekend and give him the opportunity because we can’t just revert to what we’ve had.
:agree::agree:
He struggled against Bonnyrigg and Morton. Yes it is early days, but the signs are not good. He will get a bit of time, but there needs to be a huge improvement. On what we've seen so far, JDH would be a much better option.
IberianHibernian
23-07-2022, 09:33 PM
At least half our season ticketholders probably haven`t been to a match yet this season . We`ve yet to play strong opposition and most of our new signings have hardly played , a couple haven`t played at all yet there`s talk here of writing players off . LC elimination was very disappointing ( wonder if LJ feels that disappointment as much as fans or just considers LC as an inconvenience ) but none of our league rivals seem to have done anything amazing in LC or in friendlies to make anyone think we`ll be struggling against them . Doidge could have scored another 3 hattricks but it wouldn`t have meant we were fine up front ( remember Simon Murray in LC and against mediocre Hearts team ? ) .
IberianHibernian
23-07-2022, 09:46 PM
:agree::agree:
He struggled against Bonnyrigg and Morton. Yes it is early days, but the signs are not good. He will get a bit of time, but there needs to be a huge improvement. On what we've seen so far, JDH would be a much better option.From what I`ve seen of him ( and he`s yet to play strong opposition ) I think he`s definitely good enough to play in our league and probably in a much better league . He`s still very young and has been playing with different teammates in every game . Against Morton there were a couple of growns when his passes didn`t find a teammate ( most times I thought it was down to poor movement of teammate anyway ) but also some applause when he recovered the ball quickly but while impressed by him in other games I remember thinking this guy will be new boo boy cause at times he seems a bit ponderous or slow despite obvious quality so anyone looking for a reason to attack club / manager will pick him out . As for JDH I`ve always rated him and really hope LJ or whoever is our manager after him can help him to get to a higher level ( with us ) . I don`t see why both can`t be in same midfield .
GreenCastle
23-07-2022, 09:52 PM
At least half our season ticketholders probably haven`t been to a match yet this season . We`ve yet to play strong opposition and most of our new signings have hardly played , a couple haven`t played at all yet there`s talk here of writing players off . LC elimination was very disappointing ( wonder if LJ feels that disappointment as much as fans or just considers LC as an inconvenience ) but none of our league rivals seem to have done anything amazing in LC or in friendlies to make anyone think we`ll be struggling against them . Doidge could have scored another 3 hattricks but it wouldn`t have meant we were fine up front ( remember Simon Murray in LC and against mediocre Hearts team ? ) .
Aberdeen played 3 - won 3 and haven’t conceded a goal.
Pretty much what we should be doing.
Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Dundee Utd
Motherwell
If we don’t start well we could easily be behind these teams minimum if we have a slow start.
Onceinawhile
23-07-2022, 10:01 PM
Aberdeen played 3 - won 3 and haven’t conceded a goal.
Pretty much what we should be doing.
Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Dundee Utd
Motherwell
If we don’t start well we could easily be behind these teams minimum if we have a slow start.
Sorry no. Motherwell are rotten.
Utter pony.
IberianHibernian
23-07-2022, 10:04 PM
Aberdeen played 3 - won 3 and haven’t conceded a goal.
Pretty much what we should be doing.
Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Dundee Utd
Motherwell
If we don’t start well we could easily be behind these teams minimum if we have a slow start.The 5 teams in Europe haven`t played a competitive match yet except Motherwell who lost at home so hard to know if they`ll be strong . Hard to tell from friendlies but have any of these teams got impressive results in friendlies so far ? So hard to tell how our competitors might do in league . Good chance we`ll be behind some or all of these teams after first round of fixtures but question is if we can pick up in second round .
LaMotta
23-07-2022, 10:09 PM
From what I`ve seen of him ( and he`s yet to play strong opposition ) I think he`s definitely good enough to play in our league and probably in a much better league . He`s still very young and has been playing with different teammates in every game . Against Morton there were a couple of growns when his passes didn`t find a teammate ( most times I thought it was down to poor movement of teammate anyway ) but also some applause when he recovered the ball quickly but while impressed by him in other games I remember thinking this guy will be new boo boy cause at times he seems a bit ponderous or slow despite obvious quality so anyone looking for a reason to attack club / manager will pick him out . As for JDH I`ve always rated him and really hope LJ or whoever is our manager after him can help him to get to a higher level ( with us ) . I don`t see why both can`t be in same midfield .
Not convinced mate, but obviously hope you are correct!
IberianHibernian
23-07-2022, 10:41 PM
Not convinced mate, but obviously hope you are correct!I`m not convinced he`ll turn out to be a good signing for us either but I can certainly see why we signed him . There are loads of examples of less talented players making better football careers than more talented players . In this case , I hope he gets the chance to show his quality and progress while with us .
Percy Vere
24-07-2022, 08:54 AM
More false hope...cant wait to see JDH, Newell and Campbell as our ###### midfield 3 in Perth next Sat.. utter shambles from the club. That and the fact we still haven't signed a CB
Welcome back
King of knocking all things Hibs
IF that’s our midfield three you’re right, but it won’t be.
And we’ve signed two cb and looking for another
McGruber
24-07-2022, 09:15 AM
Welcome back
King of knocking all things Hibs
IF that’s our midfield three you’re right, but it won’t be.
And we’ve signed two cb and looking for another
Would like to think we will sign a centre back - not a given though, the word 'hopefully' being bandied about now. Given the time between us being on the verge of bringing one in to now could well be whatever deal has fell through.
Staying optimistic for now it goes to plan, 1 CB & 1CM.
Don't think we can say we have signed 2 CBs already - the narrative of needing CB was bourne from us needing it from last season. Rocky was there last season.
Then there is McLelland - development team signing. Has played some minutes given injuries and looks to have good potential whilst at the same time looking very much a development level player.
Plus side here is Rocky is showing some good form pre-season and cup games. In amongst the disappointments so far Rocky and Henderson look to be 2 that are showing they can push on and improve under Johnson
Onceinawhile
24-07-2022, 10:05 AM
I would be astounded if we got kenny McLean in.
Stuart93
24-07-2022, 10:23 AM
Definitely have to bring a CB and a CM in.
Fail to do that and we’ve failed to improve positions that are badly needing some quality brought in.
We’ll go into another season under prepared.
Brightside
24-07-2022, 10:39 AM
Or maybe he doesn’t. Lots of people on here seem very quick to write this lad off. Plenty time for him yet
He will be a starter on almost every game for us. No idea why anyone would think otherwise. He’s a no 6 not a number 10 and he’s already a better footballer than the last few players we had in that role.
MWHIBBIES
24-07-2022, 11:08 AM
Definitely have to bring a CB and a CM in.
Fail to do that and we’ve failed to improve positions that are badly needing some quality brought in.
We’ll go into another season under prepared.
I think we already have. Season has started. And not well.
I honestly don't remember Hibs being truly prepared for a season.
Stuart93
24-07-2022, 11:12 AM
I think we already have. Season has started. And not well.
I honestly don't remember Hibs being truly prepared for a season.
I’m sure there’s lots of moving parts but surely we have targets set CB & CM wise and a list of players to go for.
One week before our first league game and both positions are still glaring issues
Smartie
24-07-2022, 11:16 AM
Would like to think we will sign a centre back - not a given though, the word 'hopefully' being bandied about now. Given the time between us being on the verge of bringing one in to now could well be whatever deal has fell through.
Staying optimistic for now it goes to plan, 1 CB & 1CM.
Don't think we can say we have signed 2 CBs already - the narrative of needing CB was bourne from us needing it from last season. Rocky was there last season.
Then there is McLelland - development team signing. Has played some minutes given injuries and looks to have good potential whilst at the same time looking very much a development level player.
Plus side here is Rocky is showing some good form pre-season and cup games. In amongst the disappointments so far Rocky and Henderson look to be 2 that are showing they can push on and improve under Johnson
McLelland was awful at Falkirk but looked decent in all the other games he's featured in. He was also playing in a new CB pairing with Rocky, with Dabrowski behind him and the terrible trio in front of him. To make matters worse he had Lewis Stevenson having an uncharacteristically poor game to his left as well.
I know he was intended to be a development team signing but with a decent, experienced centre back beside him I still think he looks like he could possibly play a part.
Rocky has looked decent but he was hopeless when paired with McLelland.
Given the situation with Porto, his contract and his focus and Hanlon's injury I think we've still got an awful lot of work to do in the middle of our defence.
Smartie
24-07-2022, 11:19 AM
I think we already have. Season has started. And not well.
I honestly don't remember Hibs being truly prepared for a season.
Lennon just taken over, post cup win, about to win the Championship? We won our first 5 games iirc and were unlucky not to progress against Brondby in Europe.
Obviously that season wasn't all plain sailing but I felt pretty comfortable that we'd done what we needed to do to be ready for the season.
It's pitiful tbh that upon racking my brains that's the best I can come up with. We've been notably badly prepared before then and since.
MWHIBBIES
24-07-2022, 11:21 AM
Lennon just taken over, post cup win, about to win the Championship? We won our first 5 games iirc and were unlucky not to progress against Brondby in Europe.
Obviously that season wasn't all plain sailing but I felt pretty comfortable that we'd done what we needed to do to be ready for the season.
It's pitiful tbh that upon racking my brains that's the best I can come up with. We've been notably badly prepared before then and since.
Yeah, that season probably the closest I could think of, we probably needed another forward and didn't have the goalie signed for brondby first leg.
Ended up needing 2 emergency loans to get us through the season.
Borderhibbie76
24-07-2022, 12:34 PM
Welcome back
King of knocking all things Hibs
IF that’s our midfield three you’re right, but it won’t be.
And we’ve signed two cb and looking for another
I hardly post on here so no idea what you mean and been a ST holder for over 20 years - so ru happy with the summer and how prepared we are for next week??
Hibs90
24-07-2022, 12:40 PM
Would McCarthy on loan be a shout from Celtic ? Dont know if he’s even fit bit with them signing Mooy he’s surely even further down the pecking order.
Nah he's past it.
Ronniekirk
24-07-2022, 01:00 PM
I would be astounded if we got kenny McLean in.
Prepare not to be Astounded
1875Sean
24-07-2022, 01:00 PM
I would be astounded if we got kenny McLean in.
He is first choice for Norwich so he defo isn’t coming here, he is a hun so could see him at Rangers
HoboHarry
24-07-2022, 02:58 PM
He is first choice for Norwich so he defo isn’t coming here, he is a gun so could see him at Rangers
Hair trigger and shoots on sight?
CropleyWasGod
24-07-2022, 03:00 PM
Hair trigger and shoots on sight?
I was that age once.
:cb
JamesHFC
24-07-2022, 03:24 PM
Heard at the game we are trying hard to get one more in before St Johnstone.
04Sauzee
24-07-2022, 03:37 PM
Heard at the game we are trying hard to get one more in before St Johnstone.
I'd be more than a little surprised if we weren't tbh
Listening to LJ last week I really expected to have one in last week.
GreenCastle
24-07-2022, 03:46 PM
I would be astounded if we got kenny McLean in.
100% nonsense rumour. He isn’t coming.
Unseen work
24-07-2022, 03:47 PM
Heard at the game we are trying hard to get one more in before St Johnstone.
Any idea who?
JamesHFC
24-07-2022, 03:54 PM
Any idea who?
No name mentioned. Centre back is priority though apparently.
cameronw-hfc
24-07-2022, 04:12 PM
No name mentioned. Centre back is priority though apparently.
Really hope it's a left footer. Not to replace Hanlon, but to push him and give cover on that side. He's the only left footed CB at the club. Doig could cover in a back 3 but even then feel like we've missed another lefty in the squad for depth reasons for a while now.
Ozyhibby
24-07-2022, 04:15 PM
Really hope it's a left footer. Not to replace Hanlon, but to push him and give cover on that side. He's the only left footed CB at the club. Doig could cover in a back 3 but even then feel like we've missed another lefty in the squad for depth reasons for a while now.
Def need cover there. Hanlon’s injuries are getting more frequent and keeping him out longer these days.
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Libby Hibby
24-07-2022, 04:17 PM
McLelland is left footed
chippy
24-07-2022, 04:20 PM
McLelland is left footed
Yep and don’t think he’s too far away from starting
B.H.F.C
24-07-2022, 04:26 PM
McLelland is left footed
Played on the left of the three when he came on today but I don’t think he’s left footed?
04Sauzee
24-07-2022, 04:34 PM
Played on the left of the three when he came on today but I don’t think he’s left footed?
I could 100% be wrong but I'm sure he's right footed. Playing at LCB as we don't have a natural left footed CB
B.H.F.C
24-07-2022, 04:35 PM
I could 100% be wrong but I'm sure he's right footed. Playing at LCB as we don't have a natural left footed CB
Yep that’s what I think as well. In fact, I’m going to say he’s definitely not left footed.
Agree we need a centre half but surprised most seem happy with our attacking options, particularly out wide.
We only have mcgeady (i think he flatters to deceive and we will get little end product from him), tavares (who looks every bit a development team player, certainly doesn't look ready to play regularly) and melkersen (who is only 19 and not a natural wide player). We have henderson and youan as options too but you would think they will play centrally.
I actually think a lot of our issues last season came from our attacking players not being up to it and i don't think we have fully addressed that. Would like another winger in to go straight into the starting line up, boyle ideally but appreciate how massively unlikely that is.
CapitalGreen
24-07-2022, 04:53 PM
Agree we need a centre half but surprised most seem happy with our attacking options, particularly out wide.
We only have mcgeady (i think he flatters to deceive and we will get little end product from him), tavares (who looks every bit a development team player, certainly doesn't look ready to play regularly) and melkersen (who is only 19 and not a natural wide player). We have henderson and youan as options too but you would think they will play centrally.
Really? McGeady had the most assists in England during 2021 by quite a distance despite missing 2 months of the year through injury.
Heisenberg
24-07-2022, 04:56 PM
A lot of Aberdeen fans getting excited that Boyle was at their game.
bigwheel
24-07-2022, 05:08 PM
A lot of Aberdeen fans getting excited that Boyle was at their game.
So they should be, they rarely get to see a quality player at their games [emoji6]
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Libby Hibby
24-07-2022, 05:09 PM
A lot of Aberdeen fans getting excited that Boyle was at their game.
Could Boyle end up there?
Wilson
24-07-2022, 05:11 PM
Could Boyle end up there?
He went as far as Saudi Arabia so I don't think it is inconceivable. Not preferable granted but not inconceivable.
HendoDelivered
24-07-2022, 05:11 PM
A lot of Aberdeen fans getting excited that Boyle was at their game.
Don’t think it’s anything to worry about really. He’s from there and supports them.
Was also at our game last week!
Stokesy's on fire
24-07-2022, 05:15 PM
Boyle being at the sheep game means nothing
He was with his mate who supports the wee sheep. And we have a buy back clause...if he was coming to Scotland he would be coming to Hibs.
Boyle going there will be a sore one, think it’s more of a first refusal we have rather than a buy back isn’t it? Any sell on %?
LewysGot2
24-07-2022, 06:01 PM
Boyle going there will be a sore one, think it’s more of a first refusal we have rather than a buy back isn’t it? Any sell on %?
Will?
What "will" is there about it?
Will?
What "will" is there about it?
You missing work with schools being off?
I could 100% be wrong but I'm sure he's right footed. Playing at LCB as we don't have a natural left footed CB
100% correct, just more comfortable there than Rocky.
LewysGot2
24-07-2022, 06:10 PM
You missing work with schools being off?
Eh?
There's no will unless you know something we don't?
Cheesy peeps 😂
Stokesy's on fire
24-07-2022, 06:15 PM
Boyle going there will be a sore one, think it’s more of a first refusal we have rather than a buy back isn’t it? Any sell on %?
It wont happen but i'm sure Bk said a while ago we have a clause related to buying him back.
Eh?
There's no will unless you know something we don't?
Cheesy peeps 😂
Grammar police, wind your neck in no everyone’s perfect
LewysGot2
24-07-2022, 06:21 PM
Grammar police, wind your neck in no everyone’s perfect
You've got the wrong end of a very big stick. 😂
Never mind. This place is nuts at times.
Nae need for the aggression
Borderhibbie76
24-07-2022, 07:46 PM
100% correct, just more comfortable there than Rocky.
Dunno what u mean by this, Rocky was really good 1st half today, again much better than Porto
It wont happen but i'm sure Bk said a while ago we have a clause related to buying him back.
Yeah I think we do I thought it was a first refusal/option rather than a set fee though sheep rumour going round says 500k I’m sure it was floated we could sign him for 500k as well
Anyway he did say he didn’t want to play for another Scottish club I’m sure someone in England has taken notice as well
04Sauzee
24-07-2022, 08:21 PM
Dunno what u mean by this, Rocky was really good 1st half today, again much better than Porto
That's it though Rocky played right CB and Porteous LCB then Mclleland came on and played on the left of a back 3.
There wasn't anybody saying Rocky didn't have a good first half.
Def need cover there. Hanlon’s injuries are getting more frequent and keeping him out longer these days.
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I thought he had an op to clean up some crap floating around his knee, if so that's not really an injury.
Stokesy's on fire
24-07-2022, 09:09 PM
Yeah I think we do I thought it was a first refusal/option rather than a set fee though sheep rumour going round says 500k I’m sure it was floated we could sign him for 500k as well
Anyway he did say he didn’t want to play for another Scottish club I’m sure someone in England has taken notice as well
Sheep fans are the best at talking crap in the scottish game Goodwin has even said they arent looking at him.
04Sauzee
24-07-2022, 09:13 PM
Wonder if we will hear anything tomorrow about the CB that was going through his medical this weekend. 👀👀
Unseen work
24-07-2022, 10:13 PM
Wonder if we will hear anything tomorrow about the CB that was going through his medical this weekend. 👀👀
Was that a rumour on here or Twitter?
I must have missed it, any names on who it is?
CockneyRebel
24-07-2022, 10:56 PM
Yep and don’t think he’s too far away from starting
He (McClelland) looked assured today.
badabing67
24-07-2022, 11:00 PM
Does anyone know how bad McGeady's injury is
Smartie
25-07-2022, 12:00 AM
He (McClelland) looked assured today.
Apart from a terrible 45 minutes at Falkirk he’s looked very good for us so far.
Greenworld
25-07-2022, 03:37 AM
Yeah I think we do I thought it was a first refusal/option rather than a set fee though sheep rumour going round says 500k I’m sure it was floated we could sign him for 500k as well
Anyway he did say he didn’t want to play for another Scottish club I’m sure someone in England has taken notice as wellWe would just be accepting less transfer money as fee wasn't paid up front according to Ron. So very simple in that respect
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flash
25-07-2022, 05:49 AM
Does anyone know how bad McGeady's injury is
Not serious according to the manager and has a chance for next weekend.
GreenNWhiteArmy
25-07-2022, 07:42 AM
Hearts and Hibs battling for Elliot Anderson deal as 12 clubs chase Newcastle midfielder.
#HMFC #Hibs #NUFC #Transfers https://t.co/gcF0yVXrBH
That's it though Rocky played right CB and Porteous LCB then Mclleland came on and played on the left of a back 3.
There wasn't anybody saying Rocky didn't have a good first half.
Thank you, saved me!
Souter96Mac
25-07-2022, 08:01 AM
A new CB, CM and Anderson would be serious business.
Can see Anderson going to a championship team though
neil7908
25-07-2022, 08:11 AM
Hearts and Hibs battling for Elliot Anderson deal as 12 clubs chase Newcastle midfielder.
#HMFC #Hibs #NUFC #Transfers https://t.co/gcF0yVXrBH
I'll admit I never heard of him before he was linked with us but after doing a bit of reading he sounds like a real prospect.
However, a bit like the McLean rumour, I just can't see it.
I desperately hope we can get a CM and CB in very shortly. We needed those positions filled months ago and with our current injury and work permit issues, the first team isn't filling me with confidence for the start of the season.
WestStandWillie
25-07-2022, 09:03 AM
Any further news on work permits? I'd imagine other teams are in oor position but it's frustrating that length of time it's taking.
I assume they couldnae play in yesterday's game because it was played in the UK? Whereas the games he did play were in Portugal where there's no issues. Frustrating.
Callum_62
25-07-2022, 09:06 AM
Any further news on work permits? I'd imagine other teams are in oor position but it's frustrating that length of time it's taking.
I assume they couldnae play in yesterday's game because it was played in the UK? Whereas the games he did play were in Portugal where there's no issues. Frustrating.The manager mentioned in his post match they need to try and nail down 2 WPs this week
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GloryGlory
25-07-2022, 09:08 AM
The manager mentioned in his post match they need to try and nail down 2 WPs this week
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They were hoping Youan's would be done by the end of last week.
Spike Mandela
25-07-2022, 09:38 AM
Hearts and Hibs battling for Elliot Anderson deal as 12 clubs chase Newcastle midfielder.
#HMFC #Hibs #NUFC #Transfers https://t.co/gcF0yVXrBH
Realistically, all things being equal, if we were seriously competing with Hearts for a player this year we would be very unlikely to get them due to the lure of European football till Christmas.
Latapy'sVolley
25-07-2022, 10:02 AM
Realistically, all things being equal, if we were seriously competing with Hearts for a player this year we would be very unlikely to get them due to the lure of European football till Christmas.
Agreed, don't think this is worth getting too hung up on - also think he's most likely to stay down south.
Paloschi
25-07-2022, 10:04 AM
Aberdeen have always tried to sign Boyle so it wouldn’t surprise me if they are trying to again.
Robbie Neilson also a huge admirer. I have been told Hearts have actively pursued him this window. Same person who told me about Ben Purrington (who went to County admittedly) but his info usually reliable.
For what it’s worth I can’t see Boyle signing for Hearts due to his ties for Hibs. Aberdeen may be attractive for him as it’s home but honestly can only see him joining us or maybe if they want him, Celtic in Scotland.
Stuart93
25-07-2022, 10:48 AM
Aberdeen have always tried to sign Boyle so it wouldn’t surprise me if they are trying to again.
Robbie Neilson also a huge admirer. I have been told Hearts have actively pursued him this window. Same person who told me about Ben Purrington (who went to County admittedly) but his info usually reliable.
For what it’s worth I can’t see Boyle signing for Hearts due to his ties for Hibs. Aberdeen may be attractive for him as it’s home but honestly can only see him joining us or maybe if they want him, Celtic in Scotland.
Pretty sure we’ve got first refusal on him as well before any other club in Scotland.
bingo70
25-07-2022, 10:52 AM
Pretty sure we’ve got first refusal on him as well before any other club in Scotland.
That doesn’t really mean anything though.
If we offer him x amount and Aberdeen make it known they’ll offer more, he doesn’t have to sign for Hibs.
The first refusal just means if Aberdeen bid for him, they have to tell us so we can decide if we want to match it or not.
Stuart93
25-07-2022, 11:02 AM
That doesn’t really mean anything though.
If we offer him x amount and Aberdeen make it known they’ll offer more, he doesn’t have to sign for Hibs.
The first refusal just means if Aberdeen bid for him, they have to tell us so we can decide if we want to match it or not.
Aye I know.
But you’d like to think if Aberdeen or hearts were in a position to make a move for him we’d be prepared to match it
Not In The Know
25-07-2022, 11:03 AM
Aberdeen have always tried to sign Boyle so it wouldn’t surprise me if they are trying to again.
Robbie Neilson also a huge admirer. I have been told Hearts have actively pursued him this window. Same person who told me about Ben Purrington (who went to County admittedly) but his info usually reliable.
For what it’s worth I can’t see Boyle signing for Hearts due to his ties for Hibs. Aberdeen may be attractive for him as it’s home but honestly can only see him joining us or maybe if they want him, Celtic in Scotland.
I still dont understand why an English Champ side dont take him. £25,000 a week is nothing for them and hes way better than the guff been on show this weekend
Stuart93
25-07-2022, 11:29 AM
5 days before our first league game.
Seems a short time for a CM and CB to come in
flash
25-07-2022, 11:30 AM
5 days before our first league game.
Seems a short time for a CM and CB to come in
Especially the defender. We badly need to get Porto back over to the right.
Springbank
25-07-2022, 11:42 AM
Saw this thread, which alleges to have all the English Championship salaries on it
At first I thought - no way would that info be publicly available (for any number of reasons)
But I guess it is pretty detailed.
Find the likes of Jason Kerr, Murray Wallace, Liam Lindsay on here, as well as every other player..
https://capology.com/uk/championship/salaries/
CapitalGreen
25-07-2022, 11:45 AM
Saw this thread, which alleges to have all the English Championship salaries on it
At first I thought - no way would that info be publicly available (for any number of reasons)
But I guess it is pretty detailed.
Find the likes of Jason Kerr, Murray Wallace, Liam Lindsay on here, as well as every other player..
https://capology.com/uk/championship/salaries/
It’s nonsense, as you rightly thought, no way would that info be publicly available.
Callum_62
25-07-2022, 11:45 AM
Saw this thread, which alleges to have all the English Championship salaries on it
At first I thought - no way would that info be publicly available (for any number of reasons)
But I guess it is pretty detailed.
Find the likes of Jason Kerr, Murray Wallace, Liam Lindsay on here, as well as every other player..
https://capology.com/uk/championship/salaries/There number 9 yesterday earns £29,000 per week.
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BSEJVT
25-07-2022, 11:47 AM
The thing I can’t get my head around is that we need a starting centre half and have done for at least 6 windows
One thing I always tried to do in business was not give folk a stick to hit me over the head with
Yet Hibs have consistently done this
A starting centre half would have been my first recruit
500miles
25-07-2022, 11:51 AM
The thing I can’t get my head around is that we need a starting centre half and have done for at least 6 windows
One thing I always tried to do in business was not give folk a stick to hit me over the head with
Yet Hibs have consistently done this
A starting centre half would have been my first recruit
Yet we've had the best defensive record outside of the OF for the last two seasons.
Centre half hasn't been an issue since Hanlon/ Fonts/ McGregor.
Stuart93
25-07-2022, 12:07 PM
Yet we've had the best defensive record outside of the OF for the last two seasons.
Centre half hasn't been an issue since Hanlon/ Fonts/ McGregor.
Can’t say I’m surprised at that.
We were as defensive as I’ve ever seen us under Maloney
CapitalGreen
25-07-2022, 12:14 PM
Yet we've had the best defensive record outside of the OF for the last two seasons.
Centre half hasn't been an issue since Hanlon/ Fonts/ McGregor.
Can’t agree with that, there was a number of games in the last couple of seasons when Doig has had to play centre back. While defensively it may not have been an issue, having to play our attacking wing back as a makeshift centre back has hampered our attack. I’m summer 2020 we tried and failed for McCrorie (disappointing) and summer 2021 we tried and failed for McCart (not disappointing) so it’s obvious the club has seen it as an issue too.
Since452
25-07-2022, 12:15 PM
Rocky is like a new signing (i know technically he is). He's been impressive in all the games so far and for me is a nailed on starter. If we're going for another central defender then it would only be to safeguard ourselves with Porteous dilly-dallying over a new contract. Hanlon is coming back as well. I think our priority is another midfielder however we have the likes of Tait and Magennis who will be giving the manager a headache. There are a lot of moving parts at the minute. If everyone was fit, avaliable and in Porteous's case commited then i think that would be our business done and dusted.
GloryGlory
25-07-2022, 12:41 PM
Rocky is like a new signing (i know technically he is). He's been impressive in all the games so far and for me is a nailed on starter. If we're going for another central defender then it would only be to safeguard ourselves with Porteous dilly-dallying over a new contract. Hanlon is coming back as well. I think our priority is another midfielder however we have the likes of Tait and Magennis who will be giving the manager a headache. There are a lot of moving parts at the minute. If everyone was fit, avaliable and in Porteous's case commited then i think that would be our business done and dusted.
If Porteous were committed, he would have signed the contract that's been on the table for a while now. I hope not, but he seems to have decided to let his contract run down. TBH I wouldn't be surprised if a precontract announcement somewhere down south was made in January next year.
badabing67
25-07-2022, 12:42 PM
Not serious according to the manager and has a chance for next weekend.
Cheers :aok:
JimBHibees
25-07-2022, 12:58 PM
If Porteous were committed, he would have signed the contract that's been on the table for a while now. I hope not, but he seems to have decided to let his contract run down. TBH I wouldn't be surprised if a precontract announcement somewhere down south was made in January next year.
You can still be committed and see out your contract loads of players have done so
Ronniekirk
25-07-2022, 01:37 PM
Rocky is like a new signing (i know technically he is). He's been impressive in all the games so far and for me is a nailed on starter. If we're going for another central defender then it would only be to safeguard ourselves with Porteous dilly-dallying over a new contract. Hanlon is coming back as well. I think our priority is another midfielder however we have the likes of Tait and Magennis who will be giving the manager a headache. There are a lot of moving parts at the minute. If everyone was fit, avaliable and in Porteous's case commited then i think that would be our business done and dusted.
Hanlon is back in non contact training with Mitchel .Still a fair bit to go before he is match fit .
Mcgennis is not even at that stage yet
McGregor played fir the second half yesterday .
GreenGray
25-07-2022, 01:38 PM
The thing I can’t get my head around is that we need a starting centre half and have done for at least 6 windows
One thing I always tried to do in business was not give folk a stick to hit me over the head with
Yet Hibs have consistently done this
A starting centre half would have been my first recruit
Was going to say something similar what is the hold up?? Especially when we knew Hanlon was going to miss start of the season and knew for a while.
It’s baffling, other teams seem to sign centre half’s with no problems but we always struggle.
What happened to the boy LJ said was basically done when speaking to fans in Portugal?
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worcesterhibby
25-07-2022, 01:41 PM
Rocky is like a new signing (i know technically he is). He's been impressive in all the games so far and for me is a nailed on starter. If we're going for another central defender then it would only be to safeguard ourselves with Porteous dilly-dallying over a new contract. Hanlon is coming back as well. I think our priority is another midfielder however we have the likes of Tait and Magennis who will be giving the manager a headache. There are a lot of moving parts at the minute. If everyone was fit, avaliable and in Porteous's case commited then i think that would be our business done and dusted.
If we do sign a new Centre Back and we get Hanlon Fit, I can see Rocky doing a job as a defensive midfielder at some point this season, It would be great to have his height in there against some teams and he can certainly press forward and pass the ball.
worcesterhibby
25-07-2022, 01:43 PM
Was going to say something similar what is the hold up?? Especially when we knew Hanlon was going to miss start of the season and knew for a while.
It’s baffling, other teams seem to sign centre half’s with no problems but we always struggle.
What happened to the boy LJ said was basically done when speaking to fans in Portugal?
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I'm sure we could sign one tomorrow...but maybe they are trying to sign the RIGHT one.
Unseen work
25-07-2022, 02:19 PM
If we do sign a new Centre Back and we get Hanlon Fit, I can see Rocky doing a job as a defensive midfielder at some point this season, It would be great to have his height in there against some teams and he can certainly press forward and pass the ball.
Rocky as a defensive mid?! Please tell me you’re joking.
Callum_62
25-07-2022, 02:20 PM
Porto and Rocky new centre mid partnership
:greengrin
ian cruise
25-07-2022, 03:02 PM
Was going to say something similar what is the hold up?? Especially when we knew Hanlon was going to miss start of the season and knew for a while.
It’s baffling, other teams seem to sign centre half’s with no problems but we always struggle.
What happened to the boy LJ said was basically done when speaking to fans in Portugal?
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Don't think LJ said we were close, Kensell said they had deals agreed with two and it was up to Lee to say whether he wanted one was what I read.
I've assumed neither were of the standard he was looking for and they're away looking for better.
ian cruise
25-07-2022, 03:05 PM
Was going to say something similar what is the hold up?? Especially when we knew Hanlon was going to miss start of the season and knew for a while.
It’s baffling, other teams seem to sign centre half’s with no problems but we always struggle.
What happened to the boy LJ said was basically done when speaking to fans in Portugal?
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Might be quite difficult to convince a centre half to sign as they're going to assume they're not first choice. Our captain and vice captain (plus one of our highest prospects) are centre backs.
If someone is coming in with the intention of first team football, say an international or someone with international aspirations, that's a harder sell than the left back position where we'd sold our first choice and back up is in the latter stages of his career.
worcesterhibby
25-07-2022, 03:13 PM
Rocky as a defensive mid?! Please tell me you’re joking.
It's not that mental an idea.......athletic defence minded footballer, who can carry the ball and pass, might do a shift as a stand-in defensive midfielder.....we are on the cusp of having a barely sane Liz Truss as Prime Minister for god sake ! :shocked:anything is possible !
Smartie
25-07-2022, 03:25 PM
Can’t agree with that, there was a number of games in the last couple of seasons when Doig has had to play centre back. While defensively it may not have been an issue, having to play our attacking wing back as a makeshift centre back has hampered our attack. I’m summer 2020 we tried and failed for McCrorie (disappointing) and summer 2021 we tried and failed for McCart (not disappointing) so it’s obvious the club has seen it as an issue too.
Did anyone other than Maloney play Doig at CB?
Pretty sure he never played there because the were no alternatives, it was a conscious choice of the manager to play him there.
Which was a poor choice.
04Sauzee
25-07-2022, 03:28 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
Chorley Hibee
25-07-2022, 03:31 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
He was born in Fray Bentos, so it's probably pie in the sky.
jacomo
25-07-2022, 03:32 PM
Rocky as a defensive mid?! Please tell me you’re joking.
Why not? Have you seen him play there?
He’s young and modern players are more adaptable than they were, it’s very common to see them change positions.
CropleyWasGod
25-07-2022, 03:32 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
Born in Fray Bentos.
A bit hard of hearing, maybe?
Heisenberg
25-07-2022, 03:33 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
Left footed centre half going by a quick look on transfermarkt. Only 20.
jacomo
25-07-2022, 03:34 PM
Did anyone other than Maloney play Doig at CB?
Pretty sure he never played there because the were no alternatives, it was a conscious choice of the manager to play him there.
Which was a poor choice.
I’m sure Jack did at least once, he played there at youth level no?
Golden Bear
25-07-2022, 03:34 PM
Born in Fray Bentos.
A bit hard of hearing, maybe?
:thumbsup:
flash
25-07-2022, 03:37 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
Great detective work. Seems legit, the guy who posted it has 112,000 followers.
HendoDelivered
25-07-2022, 03:37 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
No chance that’s a first team signing.
SHODAN
25-07-2022, 03:38 PM
Left footed centre half going by a quick look on transfermarkt. Only 20.
Development signing?
JimBHibees
25-07-2022, 03:38 PM
Born in Fray Bentos.
A bit hard of hearing, maybe?
:thumbsup:
SaulGoodman
25-07-2022, 03:39 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
Not to be too negative but another young player that’ll need a work permit?
CapitalGreen
25-07-2022, 03:39 PM
Did anyone other than Maloney play Doig at CB?
Pretty sure he never played there because the were no alternatives, it was a conscious choice of the manager to play him there.
Which was a poor choice.
Would he have made the choice if better options were available to him? Previous managers have played Stevenson at centre back too which I doubt they’d have done with better options available.
We spent the 20/21 season striving to qualify for Europe only to end up having to play Darren McGregor in the 30 degree heat of Croatia after Hanlon got injured and we hadn’t been able to sign any depth at centre back.
AugustaHibs
25-07-2022, 03:39 PM
What's this?
https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)
Our signing policy is shocking.
No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.
Stuart93
25-07-2022, 03:40 PM
Kind of hoping that is for the development side and not our answer to our CB problem
JohnM1875
25-07-2022, 03:40 PM
No chance that’s a first team signing.
You'd have to think so, right? The being left footed thing is making me wonder though.
JimBHibees
25-07-2022, 03:40 PM
Our signing policy is shocking.
No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.
Assuming he is not a first team player yet
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