Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[Col2]

BBC Sportsound doing it’s best to play it down as almost bad news👀

Arguably the biggest signing of close season outside OF and Tom English is questioning how much Hibs were reliant on the Saudi money to pay for all the players we have brought in.

If it had been Budge they would have been going crazy with excitement.

[Sir David Gray]

I have the pleasure of updating this! :greengrin

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Dabrowski

Miller
Cabraja
Hanlon
Porteous
Cadden
Stevenson
McGregor
Bushiri
McClelland

Kenneh
Magennis
Doyle Hayes
Tavares
Newell
Henderson
Mitchell
Tait
Campbell
McGeady

Doidge
Nisbet
Bojang
Melkersen
Youan
Boyle

[Davy Mac]

BBC Sportsound doing it’s best to play it down as almost bad news👀

Arguably the biggest signing of close season outside OF and Tom English is questioning how much Hibs were reliant on the Saudi money to pay for all the players we have brought in.

If it had been Budge they would have been going crazy with excitement.

It was the same last week, when we got the winner at Perth.

Even though we were streets ahead of St J, you could sense the disappointment in the studio and they focused on the unfairness/consistency of the sending off rather than the performance.

Willie Miller's review was quite balanced but there definately is a bit of apathy towards all things Hibs.

Fxxx them.

[Col2]

I have the pleasure of updating this! :greengrin

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Dabrowski

Miller
Cabraja
Hanlon
Porteous
Cadden
Stevenson
McGregor
Bushiri
McClelland

Kenneh
Magennis
Doyle Hayes
Tavares
Newell
Henderson
Mitchell
Tait
Campbell
McGeady

Doidge
Nisbet
Bojang
Melkersen
Youan
Boyle

Can’t argue the owner and CEO have back the manager big time. 12 new signings. Lots of promise but also some experience. Another CH and we need to hope that LJ can knit it together and we get results and performances.

[Sir David Gray]

BBC Sportsound doing it’s best to play it down as almost bad news👀

Arguably the biggest signing of close season outside OF and Tom English is questioning how much Hibs were reliant on the Saudi money to pay for all the players we have brought in.

If it had been Budge they would have been going crazy with excitement.

Yes I heard that too, I've not been the most positive person about Hibs lately and haven't always disagreed with negative comments from the media as much as some people on here but English's take on things today was very weird.

[04Sauzee]

I'm still very hopeful we will get 2 more in , a CB and a CM player. May see someone move on as well.

[Sir David Gray]

Can’t argue the owner and CEO have back the manager big time. 12 new signings. Lots of promise but also some experience. Another CH and we need to hope that LJ can knit it together and we get results and performances.

On the basis that Magennis is unlikely to be fit anytime soon I'd like a centre midfielder and a centre half and I think we're pretty much there.

[GloryGlory]

BBC Sportsound doing it’s best to play it down as almost bad news👀

Arguably the biggest signing of close season outside OF and Tom English is questioning how much Hibs were reliant on the Saudi money to pay for all the players we have brought in.

If it had been Budge they would have been going crazy with excitement.

Well considering we just brought in £3M for Doig and BK says we received £1.5M of the Boyle fee, plus a small fee for Macey about £100k, I wonder if anyone can enlighten me where we spent £4.6 million this summer on players

[Hibiza]

On the basis that Magennis is unlikely to be fit anytime soon I'd like a centre midfielder and a centre half and I think we're pretty much there.

:top marks

[Billy Whizz]

What size of squad did Lee say he wanted

[tonyrougier123]

What a day!
Incredible stuff from Ian,Ben and Ron.

[patlowe]

The very same ones who probably claim that Forest is a class signing and should be a Scotland cap, deluded muppets 🤣

It's quite incredible. I think it was the general consensus that Boyle was the best player outside of the old firm before his move, and now six months later he's inferior to Alan Forrest after a decent half against Ross County :greengrin

[007]

£1.5 mil for a 6 months loan.

I'd imagine a chunk of that is now sitting in Boyle's bank account.

[B.H.F.C]

It was the same last week, when we got the winner at Perth.

Even though we were streets ahead of St J, you could sense the disappointment in the studio and they focused on the unfairness/consistency of the sending off rather than the performance.

Willie Miller's review was quite balanced but there definately is a bit of apathy towards all things Hibs.

Fxxx them.

F*** them all. We should use all that kind of stuff as motivation. Same with some of the stuff getting spouted about how good Hearts are these days. Some of it is laughable. They’ve had one good season and they’re been spoken about as being on different levels FFS.

Boyle is the biggest signing in the league full stop IMO. He totally transforms our attack and will have a bigger impact on the team, than any other signing will have on their team. That’s not me saying he’s the best player in the league, just relative to the impact I think he’ll have for us.

[chippy]

I'd imagine a chunk of that is now sitting in Boyle's bank account.

Yes and then some going to Porto if he signs up

[Phil MaGlass]

It sounds almost like we have had to ensure that MB hasnt lost out on the cash he was due from the Saudi club as well.

If its made cash for Hibs, helped Boyle and signed him for us, then Kensell deserves huge credit.

I thihk its also great to see the club letting us know almost all the insmand outs aswell, great, and well done to Kensell for patting himself on the back aswell, seems were all buzzing, hope we sealmit with a win the morn

[Paulie Walnuts]

F*** them all. We should use all that kind of stuff as motivation. Same with some of the stuff getting spouted about how good Hearts are these days. Some of it is laughable. They’ve had one good season and they’re been spoken about as being on different levels FFS.

Boyle is the biggest signing in the league full stop IMO. He totally transforms our attack and will have a bigger impact on the team, than any other signing will have on their team. That’s not me saying he’s the best player in the league, just relative to the impact I think he’ll have for us.

He’s by an absolute country mile the best player outside the Old Firm other than potentially Craig Gordon but that’s a bit different with him being a keeper.

[GloryGlory]

I'd imagine a chunk of that is now sitting in Boyle's bank account.

Plus it looks like he has reached some agreement about his contract with Al Faisaly.

[Glory Lurker]

Feeling great as a Hibbie thanks to this news. Kudos to everyone involved.

[Mcbizz1998]

BBC Sportsound doing it’s best to play it down as almost bad news[emoji102]

Arguably the biggest signing of close season outside OF and Tom English is questioning how much Hibs were reliant on the Saudi money to pay for all the players we have brought in.

If it had been Budge they would have been going crazy with excitement.

There isn’t a thing anyone on this earth could say to convince me that Hibs re-signing Martin Boyle is a bad thing - much less those absolute weapons on BBC Sportsound.

[Walter]

....and our obsession with signing ex players continue.......

[eastmainsmsh]

Brilliant it's a pity he isn't playing tomorrow the seethe

[eastmainsmsh]

I'm still very hopeful we will get 2 more in , a CB and a CM player. May see someone move on as well.

James Mcarthy would be a decent addition
Sol Bamba for a season

[Eyrie]

Well considering we just brought in £3M for Doig and BK says we received £1.5M of the Boyle fee, plus a small fee for Macey about £100k, I wonder if anyone can enlighten me where we spent £4.6 million this summer on players

The wage bill.

A three year deal for someone on £6k per week is close to £1.1m (remember NIC), and there will be signing on and agent fees to add to that.

[GloryGlory]

The wage bill.

A three year deal for someone on £6k per week is close to £1.1m (remember NIC), and there will be signing on and agent fees to add to that.

Some maybe - but season tickets, other tickets, sponsorship, catering and other income cover the wages.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Well considering we just brought in £3M for Doig and BK says we received £1.5M of the Boyle fee, plus a small fee for Macey about £100k, I wonder if anyone can enlighten me where we spent £4.6 million this summer on players

Fees -
Melkersen
Bushiri
Miller

Signing on fees and wages for all other 11 signings including McGeady, Marshall, Boyle, Youan, Kenneh. Guessing big outlays for these guys


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[Since452]

F*** them all. We should use all that kind of stuff as motivation. Same with some of the stuff getting spouted about how good Hearts are these days. Some of it is laughable. They’ve had one good season and they’re been spoken about as being on different levels FFS.

Boyle is the biggest signing in the league full stop IMO. He totally transforms our attack and will have a bigger impact on the team, than any other signing will have on their team. That’s not me saying he’s the best player in the league, just relative to the impact I think he’ll have for us.

Agree. He's a fantastic signing but even just having him in the dressing room is brilliant. He's a character. You need that.

[Hibernian Verse]

Fees -
Melkersen
Bushiri
Miller

Signing on fees and wages for all other 11 signings including McGeady, Marshall, Boyle, Youan, Kenneh. Guessing big outlays for these guys


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Not to mention we haven’t got 3m for Doig it’s in instalments.

[GloryGlory]

Fees -
Melkersen
Bushiri
Miller

Signing on fees and wages for all other 11 signings including McGeady, Marshall, Boyle, Youan, Kenneh. Guessing big outlays for these guys


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Wages mostly covered by season ticket income, other gate money, sponsorship and advertising, TV money, prize money, catering income and other misc income.

[cabbageandribs1875]

we will get 17k x2 for our two televised LC group games


not a lot


interesting that the winner of the 20-21 LC got 300k whereas the winner of the SC only got 240k


winners this season for the LC get 350K, no idea what the SC will be

[Eyrie]

Wages mostly covered by season ticket income, other gate money, sponsorship and advertising, TV money, prize money, catering income and other misc income.

The wages budget has clearly gone up this year when you realise we've added the calibre of Marshall, McGeady, Youan, Cabraja and now Boyle. There's also a good offer on the table for Porteous.

[BoomtownHibees]

Not to mention we haven’t got 3m for Doig it’s in instalments.

Pretty much every transfer will be like that

[Greenworld]

The wages budget has clearly gone up this year when you realise we've added the calibre of Marshall, McGeady, Youan, Cabraja and now Boyle. There's also a good offer on the table for Porteous.Thats a understatement theres a great offer on the table but his agent wants more

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[Hibernian Verse]

Thats a understatement theres a great offer on the table but his agent wants more

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He better step out of Bushiri’s shadow that he’s been in this season and get back to his best quickly if he wants even more than he’s being offered. Starting with today.

[Rumble de Thump]

The fact that Boyle is back at Hibs makes it clear that we weren't reliant on money from the Saudi club. English lost the plot a long time ago.

[Gmack7]

He better step out of Bushiri’s shadow that he’s been in this season and get back to his best quickly if he wants even more than he’s being offered. Starting with today.

When Hanlon is back up to speed I think it'll be him and Porteous if we are playing 2 CBs

[Hibrandenburg]

Our midfield have been having trouble feeding the forwards, hopefully Boyle can provide the link.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Not to mention we haven’t got 3m for Doig it’s in instalments.

It’s cool, we don’t pay the wages upfront for all these players. :wink:

Qualifying for Europe is a must this season, financially.

[Eyrie]

It’s cool, we don’t pay the wages upfront for all these players. :wink:

Qualifying for Europe is a must this season, financially.

But we do pay the signing on and agent fees up front, then need the Doig instalments to pay for the wages.

[Hibbyradge]

Unless I'm mistaken, we've also brought in several more players than we've let go.

[GloryGlory]

But we do pay the signing on and agent fees up front, then need the Doig instalments to pay for the wages.

Wages are an operating expense. Silly to rely on irregular transfer fees to pay operating expenses. Most wages will be covered by ticket sales, sponsorship and advertising, TV money, prize money, incidentals like catering and hospitality income.

[Jones28]

When Hanlon is back up to speed I think it'll be him and Porteous if we are playing 2 CBs

I think that’s far from certain, after today as well. Bushiri seems to look a lot more comfortable in there at the moment.

[Phil MaGlass]

heard a rumour, Porto has signed again?

[hibeerealist]

heard a rumour, Porto has signed again?

After his performance today maybe best he did as it may not be there for much longer awaiting a signature!

[500miles]

I think that’s far from certain, after today as well. Bushiri seems to look a lot more comfortable in there at the moment.

I like Rocky, but Porto being played on the left to facilitate the big man's weak left foot - highlighted by his fresh air swipes (just about his only mistakes) today.

[Hibee Mac]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

[Allant1981]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

Rocky certainly hasnt been a bombscare this season so you clearly havent watched us

[Torto7]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

Absolute guff.

[Hibee Mac]

Rocky certainly hasnt been a bombscare this season so you clearly havent watched usI've been to every game at Easter road this season mate, just because someone has a different opinion to you on a player doesn't mean they haven't been to games.

Appreciate it's a strong opinion but I don't see what others seem to with Rocky. Don't like that he got abuse from some on twitter when he re-signed, but that doesn't get away from him being a nervy CH.

[Coco Bryce]

Porto worse than Rocky today.

He's totally regressed with all this transfer stuff going on.

[Hibee Mac]

Absolute guff.Call it what you will, Rocky is not a good enough standard to start for Hibs

[BegbieHSC]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

I thought Rocky was grand today tbh.

I do agree that we could do with another centre back, but I think our most pressing signing should be a quality box to box central midfielder. I don’t think Campbell has the quality to be a regular starter, and I don’t like Newell and Doyle Hayes together.

I think we’re two signings off a good team, challenging for top 4.

[Allant1981]

I've been to every game at Easter road this season mate, just because someone has a different opinion to you on a player doesn't mean they haven't been to games.

Appreciate it's a strong opinion but I don't see what others seem to with Rocky. Don't like that he got abuse from some on twitter when he re-signed, but that doesn't get away from him being a nervy CH.

Nope you are just plain wrong saying rocky is a bombscare as he hasnt done anything this season for you to even suggest it, and if you have been to every home game you will have seen that

[BT58]

Rocky wasnt to blame for Hertz goal, where was RP ??. I would rather have Rocky and PH at the back atm, although in being greedy i would like us to sign an experienced CH to boost our defence
B

[weecounty hibby]

Porto made way more mistakes than Rocky today. Rocky has been just fine in the two league games I've now seen.

[Hibee Mac]

Nope you are just plain wrong saying rocky is a bombscare as he hasnt done anything this season for you to even suggest it, and if you have been to every home game you will have seen thatI've seen plenty of him both this season and last to make my mind up, agree to disagree.

When Hanlon is fully fit it will be him and Porteous starting at CH and we'll be better for it.

[Since452]

Rocky just won't win with some folk. Absolutely fine today.

[Allant1981]

Rocky just won't win with some folk. Absolutely fine today.

And every other game he has played this season, mental that some people form an opinion and cant change it

[Northernhibee]

Porto worse than Rocky today.

He's totally regressed with all this transfer stuff going on.
Agreed.

[nickwhibs]

Porto made way more mistakes than Rocky today. Rocky has been just fine in the two league games I've now seen.

Agreed. I still think Porteous is a good player but is going through a sticky patch. I don’t think being on the left side helps either

[badabing67]

When Hanlon is back up to speed I think it'll be him and Porteous if we are playing 2 CBs

When Hanlon's back he might change to a back 3...... Just saying

[Smartie]

When Hanlon's back he might change to a back 3...... Just saying

I think there's a pretty tidy looking 352 that could be made out of our current players (if, like me, you like Martin Boyle playing up front).

[TheGroundsman]

Being wishful here but I'd like us to sign another CB. A "prime" one at that according to Johnson's squad plan.

I like Porto, but Rocky for me has been far more reliable recently.

[Big_Franck]

I think there's a pretty tidy looking 352 that could be made out of our current players (if, like me, you like Martin Boyle playing up front).

Cabraja and Cadden as wingbacks could work well. Both are better going forward than going the other way and it'd allow us to play Youan and Boyle through the middle.

[Unseen work]

Rocky was good today.

I think he just has a bit of a clumsy look about him at times that folk can’t take to and always think he’s not in control. The only real mistakes he’s made this season is a poor clearance, normally when the ball is bouncing and he tries to smash it on the volley, often slices it or misses it.

But today he was strong, physical, saved a certain goal and also played some really nice passes - 1 cross field pass to Cabraja in the second half was sublime.

Where as Porteous, he looks a lot more assures in possession put us in real danger by passing it to their midfield time and time again and putting us under pressure

[Borderhibbie76]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

Utter nonsense ...Rocky has been far better than Porto so far this season

[HendoDelivered]

LJ says maybe 1 or 2 more incomings.

[Vault Boy]

LJ says maybe 1 or 2 more incomings.

Was really pleased to hear that. Midfielder and centre back please, Hibs.

[Heisenberg]

LJ says maybe 1 or 2 more incomings.

I’m surprised we’ve still got scope to add more. Certainly being well backed in this window.

[JamesHFC]

I’m surprised we’ve still got scope to add more. Certainly being well backed in this window.

Ron wants success.

[Jones28]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

Pish. He’s been the best player in the side since we came back for pre season.

[chippy]

I’m surprised we’ve still got scope to add more. Certainly being well backed in this window.
2 midfielders please

[Nicho87]

LJ says maybe 1 or 2 more incomings.

Where was this quoted cheers

Definatley need them

[Gaffer1875]

A quality CB and CM and we are good.


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[Big_Franck]

Where was this quoted cheers

Definatley need them

Johnson said it in the last few seconds of his post match interview today, it's on Hibs' YouTube channel.

[Wilson]

Ron wants success.

Must be a long con he's running.

[Nicho87]

I’d certainly say that’s a fair assessment

I’d take a punt and move doidge on out now, he’s not what we need

Centre half with a decent bit experience
Central midfielder

If that was the case I’d consider letting Tait go on loan for 5 months

[brog]

A quality CB and CM and we are good.


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There's about 4 responses saying this. To me our obvious deficiency is the lack of an out and out striker until Nisbet returns. A focal point up front will allow our fast, wide players to play off him. Happy days!

[Torto7]

I wonder if we'll be bringing in a couple of loans from down south. LJ hasn't signed anyone from that market yet bar McGeady and Marshall who are well kent to us all. There was some talk of Man City links with Johnson. The boy the sheep signed from Liverpool looked the part yesterday.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Al Faisaly wanting to buy boyle back for £4m







:devil:

[big gogs]

Must be a long con he's running.
Where are the Ron the con accuser’s now.

[Torto7]

There's about 4 responses saying this. To me our obvious deficiency is the lack of an out and out striker until Nisbet returns. A focal point up front will allow our fast, wide players to play off him. Happy days!

I agree although I'd imagine Doidge leaving will have to take place first and since he wants to remain in Scotland we're looking at a narrow group of clubs. Dun Utd was rumoured but they've signed Fletch. Motherwell already have Van Vleen. Livi Nouble. Maybe St Johnstone? It would be nice to have a link guy who can play in Youan and Boyler. Melkerson isn't ready for that role either although he shows a lot of potential when he's on the pitch.

[xqnq1875]

Joel Nouble someone we should absolutely be looking at he’s had a good start to the season and is an absolute nightmare for the opposition to handle, really like the look of him so far and definitely one to keep an eye on


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[Crunchie]

Joel Nouble someone we should absolutely be looking at he’s had a good start to the season and is an absolute nightmare for the opposition to handle, really like the look of him so far and definitely one to keep an eye on


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I'm dreading next weeks game on his showing against Rangers. He's surely under contract at Livingston though?

[h185forever]

On a 2 year contract till summer 23 …

[Winston Ingram]

That was the worst I’ve seen Porto play. His passing was brainless

[Winston Ingram]

There's about 4 responses saying this. To me our obvious deficiency is the lack of an out and out striker until Nisbet returns. A focal point up front will allow our fast, wide players to play off him. Happy days!

Nisbet’s an out an out striker?

[tonyrougier123]

Joel Nouble someone we should absolutely be looking at he’s had a good start to the season and is an absolute nightmare for the opposition to handle, really like the look of him so far and definitely one to keep an eye on


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A wee cheeky double swoop for him and omeonga,money plus player would do nicely.😉

Seriously though how it panned out with Boyle coming back,the club have really played a blinder,Ron,Ian and Ben absolutely done us a solid.

Still buzzing from all that.

[GreenCastle]

We needed another CM before Campbell got injured.

Depending on his injury I would say we need x2 centrally.

[Libby Hibby]

Perhaps if Campbell out for a few weeks might give Tait a chance to shine.

[Callum_62]

Joel Nouble someone we should absolutely be looking at he’s had a good start to the season and is an absolute nightmare for the opposition to handle, really like the look of him so far and definitely one to keep an eye on


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe really shouldn't

Hes played a handful of decent games but he's no where near the standard of player we should be signing

Don't be drawn into the 'other teams player does alrite for 2 weeks and is highlighted on Sportscene' he must be signed bandwagon!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Nouble

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[Smartie]

That was the worst I’ve seen Porto play. His passing was brainless

He's all over the shop at the moment.

[SHODAN]

Honestly, given our need for a goalscorer, I would take a punt on Griffiths at this point.

[Libby Hibby]

That was the worst I’ve seen Porto play. His passing was brainless

Away you go. Slaver.

Misplaced 1, maybe 2 passes, the rest was fine. His long range passing was excellent.

[Libby Hibby]

He's all over the shop at the moment.

He’s actually not.

[bingo70]

Away you go. Slaver.

Misplaced 1, maybe 2 passes, the rest was fine. His long range passing was excellent.

Finally I’ve found someone that agrees with me 😃

[GloryGlory]

Honestly, given our need for a goalscorer, I would take a punt on Griffiths at this point.

I wouldn't. He comes with so much baggage that Hibs would need to build a large extension to the dressing room just for him.

[bigwheel]

Honestly, given our need for a goalscorer, I would take a punt on Griffiths at this point.

Didn’t he just get knocked back by Stenhousemuir?? We shouldn’t go near him

[jeffers]

Admittedly I’ve only seen him against Norwich, but I don’t know why Tait isn’t being given an opportunity. Looked like he had something to offer and seemed a very confident boy.

[Greenworld]

I actually think midfield is the area that needs sorting im fine with what we have at the back and upfront when everyone is available.
Rocky is getting better with every game and looks to me to be a real find. Remember he is very young for that position .
Midfield has been the problem for seasons now .
Playmaker midfielders are hard to find though.

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[weecounty hibby]

Honestly, given our need for a goalscorer, I would take a punt on Griffiths at this point.

Do you think out issues will be sorted by a guy who both Forfar and Stenhousemuir said no to. He has been training with Livi , why are they not signing him? Griffith a won’t play for Hibs again for a number of reasons, the main one being he has no longer got it at the level we are at

[JohnM1875]

LJ mentioned 'hopefully one or two more' in one of his post match interviews, can't remember which one, but that's promising. Surely means we'll see the same move out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

LJ mentioned 'hopefully one or two more' in one of his post match interviews, can't remember which one, but that's promising. Surely means we'll see the same move out.

Simply has to be a centre mid and a centre half.

[JohnM1875]

Simply has to be a centre mid and a centre half.

Without a doubt. Especially if Campbell's injury is a bad one.

[GreenGray]

LJ mentioned 'hopefully one or two more' in one of his post match interviews, can't remember which one, but that's promising. Surely means we'll see the same move out.

Yeah our squad is pretty big probably need some outgoings before we bring anyone in

[Hibee Mac]

Agree with others that Tait is fully deserving of a chance. If he doesn't get around about the first team after Campbell is injured then he's going to want out of the club I'd imagine.

[neil7908]

I actually think midfield is the area that needs sorting im fine with what we have at the back and upfront when everyone is available.
Rocky is getting better with every game and looks to me to be a real find. Remember he is very young for that position .
Midfield has been the problem for seasons now .
Playmaker midfielders are hard to find though.

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I want a CB in but I agree a midfielder (or even two) has to be number one on the recruitment teams agenda.

Kenneh has done well since he came in but none of Campbell, Newell, JDH or Henderson have performed at a high enough level consistently enough to be a definite pick. And that worries me.

It's not to say they all should go but we have almost no goal threat from the middle of the park, and all host of players who are too similar.

Boyle coming back is huge for us but unless we get the right players behind him creating and scoring goals then we will not get far this season.

Manager has done well since coming in but I'll be really disappointed if we are sitting here on 1st September without a proper first team midfielder having been brought in.

[LewysGot2]

That was the worst I’ve seen Porto play. His passing was brainless

He's not adapted well to playing on the left

[Tambo]

Would be some move for them if Celtic can get Ross Barkley in.

Let's see what this week brings regarding links etc

[Brightside]

Number 1 priority has to be in the centre of defence.

[Souter96Mac]

Number 1 priority has to be in the centre of defence.

If we can get a quality addition there, and a centre mid who can dominate and create, that would be class

[neil7908]

Number 1 priority has to be in the centre of defence.

Disagree.

Our midfield options are worrying across the centre. We will struggle this year without another first team CM that can contribute goals and assists.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Porto’s range of passing is actually pretty good.

From what I understand, he is being encouraged to get the ball forward faster, breaking the lines and get the opposition on the back foot. Yesterday, those attempts were cut out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Disagree.

Our midfield options are worrying across the centre. We will struggle this year without another first team CM that can contribute goals and assists.

Agree.

CM is the priority imo.

[badabing67]

Joel Nouble someone we should absolutely be looking at he’s had a good start to the season and is an absolute nightmare for the opposition to handle, really like the look of him so far and definitely one to keep an eye on

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I think him and Nisbet would be a nightmare for everyone else in the league

[PPZPOL]

That was the worst I’ve seen Porto play. His passing was brainless

I felt his options were (are) lacking in terms of passes into midfield. Don’t think Newell, Campbell or Henderson created enough space for themselves to receive, or didn’t work hard enough to get into space and give an option. Haven’t watched game back, but was what I felt at game (admittedly that can be wrong in real time)

[IanM]

https://twitter.com/StevenCochrane0/status/1556582297767485442?t=Dc4jZRu8TqNYBb5NmXzi2g&s=08

[Col2]

https://twitter.com/StevenCochrane0/status/1556582297767485442?t=Dc4jZRu8TqNYBb5NmXzi2g&s=08


Not sure how reliable this is re Mickey Johnson

But they have quotes from LJ on our interest.

“We are in talks but nothing has been agreed yet. He’s one of the players we would like to bring into the team. He has what we are looking for in pace and skill and brings something unique and different in a good way, but there’s still time, so no need to rush into anything. We didn’t rush with Boyle and it went to plan, so if we have to do the same with this deal then we will."

[brog]

Disagree.

Our midfield options are worrying across the centre. We will struggle this year without another first team CM that can contribute goals and assists.

Which SPFL teams have such a person? That's a very rare combo which is why SJM was outstanding.
FWIW, I'll repeat, I think our biggest need is for a genuine striker. Can you imagine the pace of Boyle, Youan, Melkersen and Jair running off a proper front man? KN may be that person but we won't see him for months yet & we don't know how he'll react to his bad injury. (see Doidge!). A Harry McKirdy type would be ideal and also give us a different option/dimension.

[matty_f]

https://twitter.com/StevenCochrane0/status/1556582297767485442?t=Dc4jZRu8TqNYBb5NmXzi2g&s=08


Not sure how reliable this is re Mickey Johnson

But they have quotes from LJ on our interest.

“We are in talks but nothing has been agreed yet. He’s one of the players we would like to bring into the team. He has what we are looking for in pace and skill and brings something unique and different in a good way, but there’s still time, so no need to rush into anything. We didn’t rush with Boyle and it went to plan, so if we have to do the same with this deal then we will."

I had a look at that and presumed it was a troll account. Hearts fan, 18 tweets, and the link looked like a spoof one but i didn’t click through it so i could be wrong.

[JohnM1875]

https://twitter.com/StevenCochrane0/status/1556582297767485442?t=Dc4jZRu8TqNYBb5NmXzi2g&s=08

Never really been impressed with Johnston and would much prefer we sign a central midfielder. Unless the plan is to play him as an attacking central midfielder.

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/StevenCochrane0/status/1556582297767485442?t=Dc4jZRu8TqNYBb5NmXzi2g&s=08

Looks fake to me

[Hibiza]

Disagree.

Our midfield options are worrying across the centre. We will struggle this year without another first team CM that can contribute goals and assists.

:top marks

[hibbyfraelibby]

We need a CH. Rocky is a bombscare and should be nowhere near the starting 11. Porto has been playing poor this season, hard to know how much of that is down to playing on the left.

I'll be glad to get Hanlon back in the side.

Rocky is no bombscare. If Porto doesn't buck up his ideas Hanlon will get the gig on the left.

[Lee Marvin]

There is no way we are signing another winger now we have Boyle. That would be absolutely pointless.

[04Sauzee]

Rocky is no bombscare. If Porto doesn't buck up his ideas Hanlon will get the gig on the left.

Off course he will , Porteous Is playing there because Rocky can't. It's been obvious we need a LCB . Hanlon gets that gig if we don't sign another.

[Not In The Know]

Rocky is no bombscare. If Porto doesn't buck up his ideas Hanlon will get the gig on the left.

Porto was terrible yesterday. He needs rocket up the arse sign a new deal or F off.

[Mcbizz1998]

Hanlon to come back in in place of Rocky and sign a proper CM. I’d be happy enough with that along with Boyle and hopefully some luck with injuries re. Nisbet, Magennis.

[Smartie]

https://twitter.com/StevenCochrane0/status/1556582297767485442?t=Dc4jZRu8TqNYBb5NmXzi2g&s=08


Not sure how reliable this is re Mickey Johnson

But they have quotes from LJ on our interest.

“We are in talks but nothing has been agreed yet. He’s one of the players we would like to bring into the team. He has what we are looking for in pace and skill and brings something unique and different in a good way, but there’s still time, so no need to rush into anything. We didn’t rush with Boyle and it went to plan, so if we have to do the same with this deal then we will."

Is he not meant to start quotes like that with “I never speak about other teams’ players, but…”

[j'adorehibs]

Rocky is no bombscare. If Porto doesn't buck up his ideas Hanlon will get the gig on the left.

with you on that. Yesterday Porto had 5 or 6 misplaced passes , Rocky one miskick which worked out ok .

[Paulie Walnuts]

with you on that. Yesterday Porto had 5 or 6 misplaced passes , Rocky one miskick which worked out ok .

Rocky had two complete fresh air swipes and another that he must have caught with the tips of his studs at best.

He was very shaky yesterday imo.

[Smartie]

There is no way we are signing another winger now we have Boyle. That would be absolutely pointless.

I’m not sure I’d even be playing wingers with the squad we have.

Boyle up front with Youan (or Doidge or Nisbet both play better in a pair).

Cabraja (or Mitchell) and Cadden wingbacks.

Back 3 of Hanlon, Porteous and Rocky, all 3 in what seem to be their most natural positions.

Kenneh, Magennis (or Henderson) and one other in midfield.

I’d say we need a midfielder and cover at the back.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

GK: Marshall / Dabrowski


RB: Cadden / Miller
CB: Porteous / McGregor / McLelland
CB: Hanlon / Bushiri
LB: Cabraja / Stevenson


DM: Kenneh / Campbell
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: Henderson / Magennis / Tait


RW: Boyle / Tavares
LW: Melkersen / McGeady / Mitchell
CF: Youan / Nisbet / Doidge / Bojang

One CB would be the priority for me, with one CM being a cherry on top, particuarly if we can get a tangible prognosis on Magennis

[Nicho87]

There is no way we are signing another winger now we have Boyle. That would be absolutely pointless.

Get the point

However if LJ sees Boyle more as a central player, why not

[Since452]

Tin hat on but Rocky Bushiri would be one of the first names on my team sheet. At 22 he's absolutley nowhere near the finished article and he's only going to improve playing regularly. Lets not forgret he's younger than Porteous, Nisbet etc and they get an incredible ammount of slack. I'm quite comfortable with the CB position unless we bring someone in as cover.

[Lago]

Tin hat on but Rocky Bushiri would be one of the first names on my team sheet. At 22 he's absolutley nowhere near the finished article and he's only going to improve playing regularly. Lets not forgret he's younger than Porteous, Nisbet etc and they get an incredible ammount of slack. I'm quite comfortable with the CB position unless we bring someone in as cover.
Spot on 👍

[Bostonhibby]

Tin hat on but Rocky Bushiri would be one of the first names on my team sheet. At 22 he's absolutley nowhere near the finished article and he's only going to improve playing regularly. Lets not forgret he's younger than Porteous, Nisbet etc and they get an incredible ammount of slack. I'm quite comfortable with the CB position unless we bring someone in as cover.

I tend to agree with you on current form.

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[Greenworld]

No tin hat required he has inceba le potential ad has deffinaey improved in his short time with hibs.
Strong and good pace at 22 he could be a star man in a year or so

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[theonlywayisup]

Tin hat on but Rocky Bushiri would be one of the first names on my team sheet. At 22 he's absolutley nowhere near the finished article and he's only going to improve playing regularly. Lets not forgret he's younger than Porteous, Nisbet etc and they get an incredible ammount of slack. I'm quite comfortable with the CB position unless we bring someone in as cover.

Yes, 100% agree. Our problem area is central midfield.

That said, I do think that Rocky and Porto would benefit by a solid experienced no-nonsense central defender. Getting Hanlon back will help, but I would still rather someone new.

[Allant1981]

Tin hat on but Rocky Bushiri would be one of the first names on my team sheet. At 22 he's absolutley nowhere near the finished article and he's only going to improve playing regularly. Lets not forgret he's younger than Porteous, Nisbet etc and they get an incredible ammount of slack. I'm quite comfortable with the CB position unless we bring someone in as cover.


Nah he is a bombscare apparently

[J-C]

I’m not sure I’d even be playing wingers with the squad we have.

Boyle up front with Youan (or Doidge or Nisbet both play better in a pair).

Cabraja (or Mitchell) and Cadden wingbacks.

Back 3 of Hanlon, Porteous and Rocky, all 3 in what seem to be their most natural positions.

Kenneh, Magennis (or Henderson) and one other in midfield.

I’d say we need a midfielder and cover at the back.


LJ doesn't play 3 at the back and he's brought in wide attacking forwards because that's how he wants to play, he has always played a 433 system at every club he's been at and so far this season it's mostly how he's set up.

[Highwayman]

Manager. at Club Brugge,says he doesn’t have Jack Hendry in his plans for this season.

Maybe outwith Hibs budget.

Hendry now being linked with Vincent Kompany at Burnley.

[Winston Ingram]

LJ doesn't play 3 at the back and he's brought in wide attacking forwards because that's how he wants to play, he has always played a 433 system at every club he's been at and so far this season it's mostly how he's set up.

Thank god. Can't think of any decent attacking sides in world football that play with a 352. We're never as good when we play it.

[Just_Jimmy]

Thank god. Can't think of any decent attacking sides in world football that play with a 352. We're never as good when we play it.We only won our last major trophy playing it.

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[Springbank]

We only won our last major trophy playing it.

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Very true but you could make a case that Stokes and McGinn were exceptional at times during that run, to make the midfield and striking depts more than the sum of the parts

[Just_Jimmy]

Very true but you could make a case that Stokes and McGinn were exceptional at times during that run, to make the midfield and striking depts more than the sum of the partsYou could, but that wasn't the point and any good side always has key players playing well if they're successful.

I'm not a huge fan of it as a formation. However a club like hibs should probably fit a formation to get the best out players, rather than buying to play a formation. Less likely to Nedd huge clear outs every time we change management.

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[Smartie]

LJ doesn't play 3 at the back and he's brought in wide attacking forwards because that's how he wants to play, he has always played a 433 system at every club he's been at and so far this season it's mostly how he's set up.

Yeah.

I’m just not sure it suits our players best (centre halves and strikers mainly) and we’ve got a couple of handy wingbacks.

Rocky’s doing great but it does seem to be at the cost of making Porto (our best player imo) a bit uncomfortable.

I’m also of the opinion that trying to get a 451 to work without the players to make it work has seen off a couple of potentially good Hibs managers (Hecky and Jack Ross, Stubbs also toiled with it at the start).

[JamesHFC]

From a recent bit in the evening news on Boyle.

“Hibs plan to reveal details of Boyle’s transfer back to the club in due course. It is expected the deal will go down as the club’s highest ever transfer fee paid for a player, which is currently £700,000 for Ulises de la Cruz in 2001.“

[Smartie]

Thank god. Can't think of any decent attacking sides in world football that play with a 352. We're never as good when we play it.

I’ve never seen us make a decent go of 451. Never had the central striker right, and I’m still not convinced we’ve got it now.

All our strikers play best in a pair.

[bingo70]

From a recent bit in the evening news on Boyle.

“Hibs plan to reveal details of Boyle’s transfer back to the club in due course. It is expected the deal will go down as the club’s highest ever transfer fee paid for a player, which is currently £700,000 for Ulises de la Cruz in 2001.“

Penny for Andy74s thoughts.

[HendoDelivered]

Probably too expensive wages wise, but I think we could do a lot worse than go for James McCarthy. Celtic reportedly looking to offload. Probably end up back down south mind you.

[California-Hibs]

From a recent bit in the evening news on Boyle.

“Hibs plan to reveal details of Boyle’s transfer back to the club in due course. It is expected the deal will go down as the club’s highest ever transfer fee paid for a player, which is currently £700,000 for Ulises de la Cruz in 2001.“

Its absolutely fantastic ambition from Ron that he's made this happen and no one can argue otherwise.

[Souter96Mac]

Its absolutely fantastic ambition from Ron that he's made this happen and no one can argue otherwise.

Agreed, I was expecting Boyle to come back at some point. But more like 3 or 4 years down the line when he'd have lost a yard or two of pace, not 6 months later when he's still pretty much in his prime.

[JammyDoidger]

From a recent bit in the evening news on Boyle.

“Hibs plan to reveal details of Boyle’s transfer back to the club in due course. It is expected the deal will go down as the club’s highest ever transfer fee paid for a player, which is currently £700,000 for Ulises de la Cruz in 2001.“

Hard to look at it that way, pretty much received a loan fee for Boyle, think he was out longer through injury than he was away in Saudi Arabia😂, delighted he's back!

[Chorley Hibee]

I thought the Saudi club hadn't paid the fee for Boyle?

What are we doing paying them if we've not received the original fee?

[flash]

I thought the Saudi club hadn't paid the fee for Boyle?

What are we doing paying them if we've not received the original fee?

We aren't. We are foregoing a large part of the transfer fee which means we effectively come out 1.5 million ahead for a 6 month loan deal.

[Dibben]

Saudi team agreed a deal for £3m. Then paid us £1m - if we agree a deal back - we have in effect given up £2m to sign him back!

So we won’t have paid anything, but written off an amount.

[Chorley Hibee]

We aren't. We are foregoing a large part of the transfer fee which means we effectively come out 1.5 million ahead for a 6 month loan deal.

Thanks for clarifying.

[brog]

We only won our last major trophy playing it.

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I actually like a back 3 but we were 2 1 down in the final when we switched to a back 4. Can't really say we won it with a 3-5-2.

[CropleyWasGod]

We aren't. We are foregoing a large part of the transfer fee which means we effectively come out 1.5 million ahead for a 6 month loan deal.

I think there are 2 transactions here.

1. We invoiced al-Faisaly for 3m. 1.5 has been paid. So they owe us 1.5m.

2. They invoiced us 1.5m.

So we each owe the other 1.5m , and no money needs to change hands

Therefore, because of the second transaction, MB is our record signing.
.

[flash]

I think there are 2 transactions here.

1. We invoiced al-Faisaly for 3m. 1.5 has been paid. So they owe us 1.5m.

2. They invoiced us 1.5m.

So we each owe the other 1.5m , and no money needs to change hands

Therefore, because of the second transaction, MB is our record signing.
.
Yeah I think that's what I meant......:greengrin

[J-C]

Thank god. Can't think of any decent attacking sides in world football that play with a 352. We're never as good when we play it.


I never said anything about 352/242 not being a good option, just LJ doesn't use that system, never seen 3 at the back since he took over.

[andrew70]

I never said anything about 352/242 not being a good option, just LJ doesn't use that system, never seen 3 at the back since he took over.

We played 3 at the back in the second half against Norwich. Granted the personnel was extremely different but I wouldn’t rule it out.

[J-C]

Yeah.

I’m just not sure it suits our players best (centre halves and strikers mainly) and we’ve got a couple of handy wingbacks.

Rocky’s doing great but it does seem to be at the cost of making Porto (our best player imo) a bit uncomfortable.

I’m also of the opinion that trying to get a 451 to work without the players to make it work has seen off a couple of potentially good Hibs managers (Hecky and Jack Ross, Stubbs also toiled with it at the start).


451/433/4231 is basically the same thing as the players should be flexible to interchange during the game. Our problem was we didn't have the players to play it but LJ has been recruiting players specifically to play it. The front 3 should be interchangeable and fluid, see Liverpool, Man C, Celtic etc, hence why he's brought in players like Tavares, Youan, Bojang who can all play across the front line, we've now added Boyle and Melkersen is starting to learn playing in the wide areas. As was obvious yesterday our midfield is still a problem, we've still not added the box2box player or someone with the guile to unlock defences.

[MrSmith]

Penny for Andy74s thoughts.

Not seen him in ages, is he still here?

[hibeemikey21]

Hungbo still not getting a look in at Watford. If the Mikey Johnston rumours are true and we’re in for a winger, I’d be making an enquiry…

[McGruber]

Hungbo still not getting a look in at Watford. If the Mikey Johnston rumours are true and we’re in for a winger, I’d be making an enquiry…

I don't think we need another winger and don't think we are looking either - Mikey Johnson rumour looks nonesense.

[McGruber]

I think there are 2 transactions here.

1. We invoiced al-Faisaly for 3m. 1.5 has been paid. So they owe us 1.5m.

2. They invoiced us 1.5m.

So we each owe the other 1.5m , and no money needs to change hands

Therefore, because of the second transaction, MB is our record signing.
.

Think this is basically right except sums are 2 million in 1 million out that was reported after the derby. So Boyle record signing effectively £1 million

[Bostonhibby]

I think there are 2 transactions here.

1. We invoiced al-Faisaly for 3m. 1.5 has been paid. So they owe us 1.5m.

2. They invoiced us 1.5m.

So we each owe the other 1.5m , and no money needs to change hands

Therefore, because of the second transaction, MB is our record signing.
.I'm confused, couldn't we just say we owe him to ourselves like big teams do?

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[007]

Rocky just won't win with some folk. Absolutely fine today.

A guy sitting near me slated Rocky when he almost got tackled in the 1st half and then mis-kicked it in the 2nd half. Was noticeably silent the 2 or 3 times Porteous passed it straight to a Hearts player and when he totally missed the ball, which led to their double chance. Thankfully Marshall got him and us out of jail.

https://youtu.be/ibKcOZTynR4?t=126

[aberhibsfc]

I'm confused, couldn't we just say we owe him to ourselves like big teams do?

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:greengrin

[big gogs]

I don't think we need another winger and don't think we are looking either - Mikey Johnson rumour looks nonesense.
Hopefully it is just a rumour.

[Since452]

Hopefully it is just a rumour.

Fingers crossed. He's murder.

[theonlywayisup]

Fingers crossed. He's murder.

What a stupid comment to make! He's a professional footballer player, who may or may not be playing at 100% of his potential, who may or may not be fully fit, playing in a team who may or may not utilise his skills as best as they should. He's certainly not murder, whatever that means in a football context.

I pray that he doesn't come to Hibs, largely because he already seems to have alienated a small group of our footballing experts, who probably have little evidence to justify their claims. Yes, they may go onto the Celtic forums, but like here there will be a huge gap between whether the player is a very good player or a very poor player, when the reality is that he is somewhere in between. See threads on Doidge, Rocky etc as examples.

[Mcbizz1998]

What a stupid comment to make! He's a professional footballer player, who may or may not be playing at 100% of his potential, who may or may not be fully fit, playing in a team who may or may not utilise his skills as best as they should. He's certainly not murder, whatever that means in a football context.

I pray that he doesn't come to Hibs, largely because he already seems to have alienated a small group of our footballing experts, who probably have little evidence to justify their claims. Yes, they may go onto the Celtic forums, but like here there will be a huge gap between whether the player is a very good player or a very poor player, when the reality is that he is somewhere in between. See threads on Doidge, Rocky etc as examples.

Agree with that and in fact - I would be happy enough if we signed him. I don’t think he is “murder” at all and would add some depth.

[McGruber]

What a stupid comment to make! He's a professional footballer player, who may or may not be playing at 100% of his potential, who may or may not be fully fit, playing in a team who may or may not utilise his skills as best as they should. He's certainly not murder, whatever that means in a football context.

I pray that he doesn't come to Hibs, largely because he already seems to have alienated a small group of our footballing experts, who probably have little evidence to justify their claims. Yes, they may go onto the Celtic forums, but like here there will be a huge gap between whether the player is a very good player or a very poor player, when the reality is that he is somewhere in between. See threads on Doidge, Rocky etc as examples.

Not making any judgement on the boy's ability. We simply have enough wingers but have gaps to fill elsewhere. Boyle, McGeady, Tavares, Mitchell - we have Hague and Bradley out on loan. Can't be much budget left now so we need to use what's left for centre back or centre mid - hopefully both

[hibbyfraelibby]

Hopefully it is just a rumour.

An agent inspired rumour which leaked just as the Boyle deal was quietly being finalised 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Smokescreen.

[nonshinyfinish]

I think there are 2 transactions here.

1. We invoiced al-Faisaly for 3m. 1.5 has been paid. So they owe us 1.5m.

2. They invoiced us 1.5m.

So we each owe the other 1.5m , and no money needs to change hands

Therefore, because of the second transaction, MB is our record signing.
.

Is there a reason it's beneficial to either club to structure it like that, rather that the simpler (to my mind) version where they don't invoice us anything and we just write off the amount owed?

I know there are some seriously complicated accounting tricks used in football – e.g. https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1276039133396373504.

[Smartie]

We've just gone into a huge game - an Edinburgh derby - with Ewan Henderson shunted out to the wing, and it didn't really work.

I'd expect Johnston to do better than Henderson did - and for Henderson to do better if he was played more centrally.

These were probably some of the issues that contributed most to the poorer aspects of our performance on Sunday so I wouldn't be ruling out a potential solution to that.

Although if there was a finite amount of money left in the budget, I'd rather it went on a CB and CM, both of which appear to be a more pressing requirement.

[Iain G]

We've just gone into a huge game - an Edinburgh derby - with Ewan Henderson shunted out to the wing, and it didn't really work.

I'd expect Johnston to do better than Henderson did - and for Henderson to do better if he was played more centrally.

These were probably some of the issues that contributed most to the poorer aspects of our performance on Sunday so I wouldn't be ruling out a potential solution to that.

Although if there was a finite amount of money left in the budget, I'd rather it went on a CB and CM, both of which appear to be a more pressing requirement.

With Mitchell, Tavares, Bojang and when he gets back, McGeady in there, we do have options out wide.

[CropleyWasGod]

Is there a reason it's beneficial to either club to structure it like that, rather that the simpler (to my mind) version where they don't invoice us anything and we just write off the amount owed?

I know there are some seriously complicated accounting tricks used in football – e.g. https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1276039133396373504.

Can't think of anything obvious, other than having 2 transactions makes it "cleaner" for the football authorities.

Also:-

Al Faisaly are not seen as defaulting on their debt.

Ron is a little bit closer to achieving a doubling of turnover as he promised.

We are seen to be laying out big money on players.

[Smartie]

With Mitchell, Tavares, Bojang and when he gets back, McGeady in there, we do have options out wide.

Mitchell and McGeady don't have great injury records. Tavares has played little first team football and is very much unproven. Is Bojang not a central striker mainly? Even so, he's very raw on the brief glimpses we've seen so far.

Having said all of that - I've liked the little I've seen of Mitchell and McGeady and the other two look like they have something about them and deserve an opportunity to develop.

It just looks to me that if we play the 451 we'll have a striker who can't play up front on his own accompanied by 2 "projects". That suggests huff and puff with little cutting edge when you combine it with our midfield to me, phrases we're not exactly unfamiliar with when Hibs have played this way in the past. Add in having an awkward Porto on the left of the defence and it starts to look more cumbersome than it should from a squad of decent players.

Whilst the 352 I described still has imperfections, I think it suits many of our current players more.

[timewilltell]

Reuben McAllister, midfielder (Bristol City, undisclosed). Whats the current situation with this guy?

[Stuart93]

Reuben McAllister, midfielder (Bristol City, undisclosed). Whats the current situation with this guy?

A young player signed for the development side/maybe even under 18’s

[timewilltell]

A young player signed for the development side/maybe even under 18’s


Cheers.:thumbsup:

[Unseen work]

Is there anything in the Mikey Johnston rumour?

I thought it was just that fake account that linked us? Same one that’s now saying Porteous to Celtic. Embarassing the effort the fake account is going to.

I don’t believe for a second we’re after another winger;

Boyle
Tavares
Melkersen
McGeady
Youan
Cadden
Henderson

All capable of playing there, plus Bradley and Hauge will be back in January.

[Unseen work]

Sosa to CSKA is off, wonder if we’ll sign him now.

https://twitter.com/laabdon/status/1556987533111738368?s=21&t=SVjrWO8j4ENfP3iqG0k-xQ

[hibee-boys]

Sosa to CSKA is off, wonder if we’ll sign him now.

https://twitter.com/laabdon/status/1556987533111738368?s=21&t=SVjrWO8j4ENfP3iqG0k-xQ

Obviously tuned in and witnessed the scenes at the end of the derby, got straight on blower to his agent to tell him to get him to Easter Road🤔😂

[HoboHarry]

Obviously tuned in and witnessed the scenes at the end of the derby, got straight on blower to his agent to tell him to get him to Easter Road🤔😂
That's a load of rubbish, you made that up. He wants to play on the same team as Martin Boyle, the finest player on the planet.

[Torto7]

Sosa to CSKA is off, wonder if we’ll sign him now.

https://twitter.com/laabdon/status/1556987533111738368?s=21&t=SVjrWO8j4ENfP3iqG0k-xQ

Wasnt it 1.5 mill? No chance if that was the price.

[Unseen work]

Wasnt it 1.5 mill? No chance if that was the price.

I’m sure 1.5 was mentioned but unsure on currency. The way it was reported though and comments made by the player sounded like it was all agreed and was just a matter of time.

Now that CSKA are out the running I wonder if they’ll go back to our bid? The club seem quite good at finding ways of getting players who are valued higher with well structured deals

[CapitalGreen]

I’m sure 1.5 was mentioned but unsure on currency. The way it was reported though and comments made by the player sounded like it was all agreed and was just a matter of time.

Now that CSKA are out the running I wonder if they’ll go back to our bid? The club seem quite good at finding ways of getting players who are valued higher with well structured deals

If only 70% of his rights are available to purchase then he won’t be coming to the Uk. Part-ownership of players is not permitted here.

[CallumLaidlaw]

If only 70% of his rights are available to purchase then he won’t be coming to the Uk. Part-ownership of players is not permitted here.

Is it not just the same as
Giving a 30% sell on tho, or is that too simplistic?


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[CapitalGreen]

Is it not just the same as
Giving a 30% sell on tho, or is that too simplistic?


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A 30% sell on is a a contractual agreement with the selling club while the 70/30% part ownership model is where the 30% of the players economic rights are retained by a 3rd party. It’s widely used in South America but banned over here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_ownership_in_association_football

[hibbyfraelibby]

I’m sure 1.5 was mentioned but unsure on currency. The way it was reported though and comments made by the player sounded like it was all agreed and was just a matter of time.

Now that CSKA are out the running I wonder if they’ll go back to our bid? The club seem quite good at finding ways of getting players who are valued higher with well structured deals
According to "sources" we withdrew our bid...wonder why?

[Unseen work]

According to "sources" we withdrew our bid...wonder why?

Think Pat Mcpartilin rubbished that in his last update about the situation and said we were very much still interested.

Anyone know how part ownership works? Who owns the other 30%? Club or agent?

[Torto7]

I’m sure 1.5 was mentioned but unsure on currency. The way it was reported though and comments made by the player sounded like it was all agreed and was just a matter of time.

Now that CSKA are out the running I wonder if they’ll go back to our bid? The club seem quite good at finding ways of getting players who are valued higher with well structured deals

Maybe although I'd doubt we have similar budget levels with Boyler back now. Who knows though we've already done more than I was expecting.

[Since452]

What a stupid comment to make! He's a professional footballer player, who may or may not be playing at 100% of his potential, who may or may not be fully fit, playing in a team who may or may not utilise his skills as best as they should. He's certainly not murder, whatever that means in a football context.

I pray that he doesn't come to Hibs, largely because he already seems to have alienated a small group of our footballing experts, who probably have little evidence to justify their claims. Yes, they may go onto the Celtic forums, but like here there will be a huge gap between whether the player is a very good player or a very poor player, when the reality is that he is somewhere in between. See threads on Doidge, Rocky etc as examples.

Just my opinion. I really don't rate him and hope we don't sign him. Really surprised Celtic haven't moved him on. Others will disagree. As with any player we sign he'd get my full support if he were to join.

[HoboHarry]

Just my opinion. I really don't rate him and hope we don't sign him. Really surprised Celtic haven't moved him on. Others will disagree. As with any player we sign he'd get my full support if he were to join.
Not rating him is fine, it's the use of terms like "he's murder" that'll will draw fire. It's meaningless with no reasoning to back it up. "Pish" is the one that makes me laugh, such a ridiculous term to use and utterly bereft of meaning unless someone can post a link to a "pishiness scale". Seriously, incrementally, how do players go from world star to pish?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not rating him is fine, it's the use of terms like "he's murder" that'll will draw fire. It's meaningless with no reasoning to back it up. "Pish" is the one that makes me laugh, such a ridiculous term to use and utterly bereft of meaning unless someone can post a link to a "pishiness scale". Seriously, incrementally, how do players go from world star to pish?

You’ve got to be joking eh?

We’re now not allowed to give our opinion on a player unless it’s backed up by a scale? :faf:

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Johnston is pish. But I sure as hell don’t need a scale to understand what people mean when they say it.

[HoboHarry]

You’ve got to be joking eh?

We’re now not allowed to give our opinion on a player unless it’s backed up by a scale? :faf:

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Johnston is pish. But I sure as hell don’t need a scale to understand what people mean when they say it.
Oh FFS. Sensible debate was what I was getting at and the scale was sarcasm. Jesus Christ....

[Onceinawhile]

Think Pat Mcpartilin rubbished that in his last update about the situation and said we were very much still interested.

Anyone know how part ownership works? Who owns the other 30%? Club or agent?

Could be anyone.

Neymar's parent's owned part of his sporting rights IIRC.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Oh FFS. Jesus Christ....

If thats the latest rumour then the crosses are going to be amazing

[Since452]

If thats the latest rumour then the crosses are going to be amazing

To be fair i think LJ has nailed it if we sign him.

[SHODAN]

No problems with Johnston on paper but not sure we should be prioritising another forward player now.

[Big_Franck]

No problems with Johnston on paper but not sure we should be prioritising another forward player now.

IMO we certainly shouldn't be prioritising a young player from Celtic with a terrible injury record. If we do sign Mikey Johnston then clearly we've learnt nothing from the Magennis and Mitchell transfers.

A left sided centre half and a goal scoring midfielder are absolute musts. If we don't sign them now, we'll end up signing them in January when 3rd place might be done.

[J-C]

Sosa to CSKA is off, wonder if we’ll sign him now.

https://twitter.com/laabdon/status/1556987533111738368?s=21&t=SVjrWO8j4ENfP3iqG0k-xQ


Can only see it being a loan, he is part owned by an agency so therefore against our rules over here, probably the main problem that we pulled the deal in the 1st place.

[CapitalGreen]

IMO we certainly shouldn't be prioritising a young player from Celtic with a terrible injury record. If we do sign Mikey Johnston then clearly we've learnt nothing from the Magennis and Mitchell transfers.

A left sided centre half and a goal scoring midfielder are absolute musts. If we don't sign them now, we'll end up signing them in January when 3rd place might be done.

He’s not even that young, he’ll be 24 this season and has only started 16 league games for Celtic in 7 seasons since making his debut.

[Gmack7]

He’s not even that young, he’ll be 24 this season and has only started 16 league games for Celtic in 7 seasons since making his debut.

That's a horrific stat, steer clear and push young Bradley hard, could learn a lot from Boyle and McGeady

[bingo70]

He’s not even that young, he’ll be 24 this season and has only started 16 league games for Celtic in 7 seasons since making his debut.

Aye but Celtic are miles better than us. Those stats not all just down to fitness.

Just because he’s not good enough to start for Celtic doesn’t mean he’s not good enough to start for us.

[davhibby]

Aye but Celtic are miles better than us. Those stats not all just down to fitness.

Just because he’s not good enough to start for Celtic doesn’t mean he’s not good enough to start for us.

That’s true. His ability means he’s not good enough to start for us. Anyway, if we’re getting 1/2 more in before the end of the month there’s next to no chance one of them is a winger anyway

[Ringothedog]

He’s not even that young, he’ll be 24 this season and has only started 16 league games for Celtic in 7 seasons since making his debut.

Not according to his wiki page, he has played 78 times for Celtc in the League ,cups and Europe. Obviously not all starts but he is nowhere as bad as you are making out. By comparison Dylan McGeoch had made 27 appearances prior to joining us and he turned out not too bad

[CapitalGreen]

Not according to his wiki page, he has played 78 times for Celtc in the League ,cups and Europe. Obviously not all starts but he is nowhere as bad as you are making out. By comparison Dylan McGeoch had made 27 appearances prior to joining us and he turned out not too bad

He’s spent nearly 700 days of the previous 3 seasons out injured and has only played 900 minutes of football (all competitions) over the previous 2 seasons.

26117

[chippy]

Can only see it being a loan, he is part owned by an agency so therefore against our rules over here, probably the main problem that we pulled the deal in the 1st place.

Might there be a way round that. Think we’d have been aware of ownership rights initially. Maybe we could buy 30-40% of him and that say his agency own 30% whilst his current club retain 30%, if he does well and eventually is worth 3m everybody is a winner

[Hibernian Verse]

Might there be a way round that. Think we’d have been aware of ownership rights initially. Maybe we could buy 30-40% of him and that say his agency own 30% whilst his current club retain 30%, if he does well and eventually is worth 3m everybody is a winner

Illegal in the UK

[Ringothedog]

Might there be a way round that. Think we’d have been aware of ownership rights initially. Maybe we could buy 30-40% of him and that say his agency own 30% whilst his current club retain 30%, if he does well and eventually is worth 3m everybody is a winner

Part ownership of a player is not allowed in this country, it’s all or nothing

[Billy Whizz]

Illegal in the UK

Morelos club in Columbia claim they still own 14% of his rights. Is this ok or illegal

[Ringothedog]

Morelos club in Columbia claim they still own 14% of his rights. Is this ok or illegal

If it is the Huns then it will be okay

[HoboHarry]

Morelos club in Columbia claim they still own 14% of his rights. Is this ok or illegal
The Scottish governing bodies will just call it "Imperfectly Registered" again like they did with the EBT's and look the other way.

[CropleyWasGod]

Morelos club in Columbia claim they still own 14% of his rights. Is this ok or illegal

The important word is "claim".

I suspect there's a Lost in Translation thing here, and they have a sell-on clause of somewhere in that region. It would amount to the same being paid to them.

[SquashedFrogg]

Aye but Celtic are miles better than us. Those stats not all just down to fitness.

Just because he’s not good enough to start for Celtic doesn’t mean he’s not good enough to start for us.

Correct. Neither of the Henderson's were good enough, or Mcgeouch.

[Silky]

Correct. Neither of the Henderson's were good enough, or Mcgeouch.

Or Scott Allan

[Unseen work]

Was there not something about Teves ans Mascherano at West Ham and issued over ownership?

[SquashedFrogg]

Or Scott Allan

True. Or McGinlay.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

True. Or McGinlay.

Finished top scorer for them

[chippy]

Illegal in the UK

How about this.
Transfer fee from Nacional for 1.5m Euros
Hibs buy him from Nacional for 500k Euros with a 66.66% sell on clause
Nacional get their 1mill Euros when we sell him and bung his agency in Uruguay 500kEuros
if he’s sold for say 3million Euros by us , the additional 1.5m is split between the 3 parties after a deduction of the wages we’ve paid him.

[IberianHibernian]

With Joaquin Sosa , Uruguayan press reports of 25th July said Nacional had negociated 70 / 30 deal with us and player was set for Edinburgh . The reports about moving to CSKA appeared on 2nd August and on 5th short reports of not moving with 70 / 30 again mentioned . CSKA have signed some other South American defenders on loan this month . I haven`t seen the 1.5 million figure mentioned anywhere except here . I really hope we`re still interested since we need a left sided defender since Hanlon won`t be a first pick for ever and Sosa , though young , already has a fair bit of experience and gets good writeups in Uruguay . Apart from the ownership of player obstacle , I suspect we`ve probably spent our budget on Boyle while Nacional have used situation to raise price .

[CapitalGreen]

With Joaquin Sosa , Uruguayan press reports of 25th July said Nacional had negociated 70 / 30 deal with us and player was set for Edinburgh . The reports about moving to CSKA appeared on 2nd August and on 5th short reports of not moving with 70 / 30 again mentioned . CSKA have signed some other South American defenders on loan this month . I haven`t seen the 1.5 million figure mentioned anywhere except here . I really hope we`re still interested since we need a left sided defender since Hanlon won`t be a first pick for ever and Sosa , though young , already has a fair bit of experience and gets good writeups in Uruguay . Apart from the ownership of player obstacle , I suspect we`ve probably spent our budget on Boyle while Nacional have used situation to raise price .

Bologna are apparently in for him now.

[IberianHibernian]

Bologna are apparently in for him now.Wouldn`t surprise me . We seemed to have done a great job of arranging signing in secret , pity we couldn`t get it over the line . Credit to recruitment team for getting so close to signing , more proof that our signing policy is anything but scattergun . Ideally we`d sign him and we`d sell him to Bologna ( or similar ) for a few million in a couple of years . That would have been original plan I`m sure . If any money left over after Boyle , maybe still a chance of signing him .

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/mhendry92/status/1557117397290680320?s=21&t=RRRdBZ2TmVPPYNzruDY3Ng

Johnston not coming here since Boyle has returned.

[badabing67]

Sounds like this Sosa would be a starter for us but maybe not for Bologna, having not really see him its difficult to judge. I think moving to us could be a good stepping stone but is he a Serie A ready player. :dunno:

[Hibbyradge]

Nope you are just plain wrong saying rocky is a bombscare as he hasnt done anything this season for you to even suggest it, and if you have been to every home game you will have seen that

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[CapitalGreen]

https://twitter.com/mhendry92/status/1557117397290680320?s=21&t=RRRdBZ2TmVPPYNzruDY3Ng

Johnston not coming here since Boyle has returned.

Good

[SickBoy32]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Come on eh, he followed shankland out to the halfway line, got turned easy and then failed to track the runner (despite rocky having pace and strength) - Shankland then overpowers kenneh /handballs into the net 0-1

Bushiri lacks technical ability on the ball, and his positioning has already costs us a few goals since he’s arrived

We need much better as a starting centre half, PH is of course much better but could do with another in imo, hope we are still in with a shout for the Uruguayan

Wasn’t meaning to jump on your post in particular

[SMAXXA]

Come on eh, he followed shankland out to the halfway line, got turned easy and then failed to track the runner (despite rocky having pace and strength) - Shankland then overpowers kenneh /handballs into the net 0-1

Bushiri lacks technical ability on the ball, and his positioning has already costs us a few goals since he’s arrived

We need much better as a starting centre half, PH is of course much better but could do with another in imo, hope we are still in with a shout for the Uruguayan

Wasn’t meaning to jump on your post in particular

on current form I’d be more concerned about his CH partner who has been worse that Rocky so far this season that’s for sure.

[tonyrougier123]

Sosa has a YouTube reel recently put up.
https://youtu.be/f06Nug1QH10

[brog]

on current form I’d be more concerned about his CH partner who has been worse that Rocky so far this season that’s for sure.

While I wouldn't disagree we must remember that Porto is playing out of position to accommodate Rocky. I really wouldn't want to see the positions reversed.

[Since452]

https://twitter.com/mhendry92/status/1557117397290680320?s=21&t=RRRdBZ2TmVPPYNzruDY3Ng

Johnston not coming here since Boyle has returned.

Delighted

[Since452]

While I wouldn't disagree we must remember that Porto is playing out of position to accommodate Rocky. I really wouldn't want to see the positions reversed.

Porteous constantly giving the ball away and making silly tackles has nothing to do with him being out of position. It's down to poor decision making. It's not as if he's a centre forward being asked to play centre back.

[flash]

Porteous constantly giving the ball away and making silly tackles has nothing to do with him being out of position. It's down to poor decision making. It's not as if he's a center forward being asked to play center back.

Of course it's a factor it's utterly ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

[bingo70]

Of course it's a factor it's utterly ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

Constantly giving the ball away is a bit of a stretch too. He probably had a few stray passes tops but a lot of his distribution was excellent.

[JDT]

I'm maybe wrong but would we be better with a target man in the middle of the front 3? Someone in the mold as the boy from livi. Boyle, McGeady, Tavares, Melkerson and Yohan options out wide? I know we have Doidge and Nisbett I know but just thinking a link up player with strength and a decent header would be good

[Squealing pig]

Get nouble signed up

[easty]

Get nouble signed up

I know he’s looked a handful in a few games, but he’s no much of a striker at all, and he’s scored 1 in his last 33 games.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know he’s looked a handful in a few games, but he’s no much of a striker at all, and he’s scored 1 in his last 33 games.

Yup. He’d most likely end up a terrible signing for us.

[Brightside]

Come on eh, he followed shankland out to the halfway line, got turned easy and then failed to track the runner (despite rocky having pace and strength) - Shankland then overpowers kenneh /handballs into the net 0-1

Bushiri lacks technical ability on the ball, and his positioning has already costs us a few goals since he’s arrived

We need much better as a starting centre half, PH is of course much better but could do with another in imo, hope we are still in with a shout for the Uruguayan

Wasn’t meaning to jump on your post in particular

Porto does that all the time.

[Hibernian Verse]

We're so overcritical of our own players that a 1 goal in 33 Livi striker becomes a no brainer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’ve suggested him before but I see Leon Balogun is still without a club..

[worcesterhibby]

We're so overcritical of our own players that a 1 goal in 33 Livi striker becomes a no brainer.

:agree:

[bigwheel]

We're so overcritical of our own players that a 1 goal in 33 Livi striker becomes a no brainer.

Haha. Don’t let facts get in the way of a Hibs Net opinion ! [emoji1787][emoji106]