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wookie70
04-07-2022, 08:47 AM
Josh did contribute goals and assists in a team struggling to score. His loan spells saw a few goals too. I actually think he could be a Pat McGinlay type player for us and his youth, energy and engine could see him be very useful. Last year he wasn't good enough but he didn't hide and kept going despite some mistakes that cost us goals. He might not end up a regular but I think the style of play Maloney played made decent players look poor and LJs style will suit Josh perfectly. He is young so his next step is to get regular appearances that are positive and build from there.

04Sauzee
04-07-2022, 09:01 AM
Kalvin Phillips announced by Man City on a 6 year deal.

Brooster
04-07-2022, 09:03 AM
Please report anything you feel crosses the line to us. We regularly discuss posts and posters on here and take action when required. Which more often then not sees us being accused of being heavy handed.

I won't waste my time. They post multiple times day after day and will continue to do so. This place isn't a patch on it's former self.

Oscar T Grouch
04-07-2022, 09:06 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the summer transfer thread? Because there has been no transfers talked about for the last 3 pages. Can we open separate threads to discuss the merits of specific players ability to play in the 1st team?







Oops, sorry forgot where I was, please continue :greengrin

jacomo
04-07-2022, 09:09 AM
Yeah but I think the counter argument to that is that a new manager could get more out of the midfield players that were here last year by simplifying how we play and asking them to play on the front foot more.

Last season was it the personnel that was the problem or how they were asked to play? I’m guessing LJ thinks it was the latter.


No question about it, but also our midfield is the area that was most in need of a serious reset.

I’d be more comfortable with another option in there, maybe Delefierre (sp?) is the one.

Lago
04-07-2022, 09:13 AM
I won't waste my time. They post multiple times day after day and will continue to do so. This place isn't a patch on it's former self.
Your final sentence is spot on.

Brightside
04-07-2022, 09:14 AM
This thread and site is brutal in terms of folk ripping in to our own players, did we not learn anything from the Rocky affair. The place is infested by trolls, a few yams have already been outed but they are still here and posting garbage on this thread. Give us peace ffs.

Especially as its a thread about transfers.

Hibbyradge
04-07-2022, 09:16 AM
A fairly simple question I thought, hardly an interrogation! But you're not prepared to give an answer, fair enough.

Anyway didn't mean to divert the transfer thread any further, agree Campbell gets a clean slate as they all do.

It was not a simple question. It was a loaded question and actually irrelevant to my post which would have only led to another argument from you.

I said that I think he'll come good so it doesn't matter who I think he's currently better than or not.

hibsforeurope
04-07-2022, 09:16 AM
Does anyone know if we're likely to see Bojang arrive this week, sure he was due to link up with the squad on 1st July from the initial press release.

Hibbyradge
04-07-2022, 09:18 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the summer transfer thread? Because there has been no transfers talked about for the last 3 pages. Can we open separate threads to discuss the merits of specific players ability to play in the 1st team?







Oops, sorry forgot where I was, please continue :greengrin

What transfers shall we talk about? :dunno:

Brightside
04-07-2022, 09:19 AM
I think you should be banning posters that accuse others as being Hearts fans!

It's the lowest of the low and gets trotted out regularly by a few on here. They're never right either!!

I'd say its the ones that keep coming back under new names after being banned that are the issue.

Brightside
04-07-2022, 09:23 AM
Some folk need to redefine what they class as “ripping into someone”.

Campbell was piss poor last season, and making that observation isn’t ripping into him, or having a go at him, or hoping he fails.

Yesterday someone posted that he was one of the best midfielders at the club, or something along those lines, and that’s by far the most ridiculous thing that’s been said about Campbell on this thread the last few days.

Campbell gets a clean slate. Just like everyone else.

He wasnt piss poor. He wasn't great, but no one in the midfield had a chance to shine. Again its the language that people seem to use now - rubbish, pish, crap, hopeless. None of our players are that.
The boy clearly has ability so lets see what LJ gets out of him. The signs from the friendlies are encouraging. Bu i realise would we need to beat West Ham or similar in a friendly for some to be happy with the early signs of progress.

We need to forget about last season and move on.

easty
04-07-2022, 09:32 AM
He wasnt piss poor. He wasn't great, but no one in the midfield had a chance to shine. Again its the language that people seem to use now - rubbish, pish, crap, hopeless. None of our players are that.
The boy clearly has ability so lets see what LJ gets out of him. The signs from the friendlies are encouraging. Bu i realise would we need to beat West Ham or similar in a friendly for some to be happy with the early signs of progress.

We need to forget about last season and move on.

In my opinion he was piss poor. I don’t have any problem with you disagreeing with that though. The team/squad was generally poor for the vast majority of the season, and in my opinion Campbell was regularly one of the worst performers.

As you say though, let’s see what LJ gets out of him.

Where are the posts from people saying they’re not happy with the progress? I dinnae read everything on here, but the feeling I was getting was that folk were happy with the way things have gone so far.

Unseen work
04-07-2022, 09:37 AM
So……anyone know who this centre half is we’re signing?

Northernhibee
04-07-2022, 09:40 AM
In my opinion he was piss poor. I don’t have any problem with you disagreeing with that though. The team/squad was generally poor for the vast majority of the season, and in my opinion Campbell was regularly one of the worst performers.

As you say though, let’s see what LJ gets out of him.

Where are the posts from people saying they’re not happy with the progress? I dinnae read everything on here, but the feeling I was getting was that folk were happy with the way things have gone so far.

He was also an inexperienced player who was arguably hung out to dry more than almost another other player in the team by Maloney.

He had two midfielders alongside him - usually Newell and JDH - who seemed to have the instruction to sit further back and not take many risks. We were lightweight up front so Josh put in the world of running and effort but had nobody to hit up front and very little to work with behind him. He also wasn't that experienced at first team level so really needed players around him in midfield to help guide him and improve him and he arguably didn't have that.

We also seen the benefit of taking a player out of the firing line when Jack Ross would drop Josh Doig in and out of the team when he was breaking through. Josh didn't have that nearly as much under Maloney and I remember an interview with Maloney where he'd said something like we needed to get the likes of Josh into the Scotland team, which I thought put a lot of extra pressure on him.

From what we've seen in the two pre season friendlies, LJ has Josh playing in a more natural position and also has Newell and JDH looking to make more runs and passes forward but also has a player up front and out wide making moves and looking to get the ball. He immediately has a lot more options to work with and looks a different player.

I think if we get behind Josh this season and LJs tactics are more positive and we have more mobility in the team we'll see a completely different Josh Campbell and a few will be happy to eat their words about him.

bingo70
04-07-2022, 09:41 AM
So……anyone know who this centre half is we’re signing?

As persuasive as your post is, probably not or they would have told us and we’d be discussing the player already 😉

HUTCHYHIBBY
04-07-2022, 09:46 AM
As persuasive as your post is, probably not or they would have told us and we’d be discussing the player already 😉

Or they drop a hint that they know the name then keep it to themselves. 🤔

jacomo
04-07-2022, 09:47 AM
He was also an inexperienced player who was arguably hung out to dry more than almost another other player in the team by Maloney.

He had two midfielders alongside him - usually Newell and JDH - who seemed to have the instruction to sit further back and not take many risks. We were lightweight up front so Josh put in the world of running and effort but had nobody to hit up front and very little to work with behind him. He also wasn't that experienced at first team level so really needed players around him in midfield to help guide him and improve him and he arguably didn't have that.

We also seen the benefit of taking a player out of the firing line when Jack Ross would drop Josh Doig in and out of the team when he was breaking through. Josh didn't have that nearly as much under Maloney and I remember an interview with Maloney where he'd said something like we needed to get the likes of Josh into the Scotland team, which I thought put a lot of extra pressure on him.

From what we've seen in the two pre season friendlies, LJ has Josh playing in a more natural position and also has Newell and JDH looking to make more runs and passes forward but also has a player up front and out wide making moves and looking to get the ball. He immediately has a lot more options to work with and looks a different player.

I think if we get behind Josh this season and LJs tactics are more positive and we have more mobility in the team we'll see a completely different Josh Campbell and a few will be happy to eat their words about him.


He’s absolutely not an attacking midfielder imo. Josh Campbell looks more comfortable further back.

easty
04-07-2022, 09:51 AM
He was also an inexperienced player who was arguably hung out to dry more than almost another other player in the team by Maloney.

He had two midfielders alongside him - usually Newell and JDH - who seemed to have the instruction to sit further back and not take many risks. We were lightweight up front so Josh put in the world of running and effort but had nobody to hit up front and very little to work with behind him. He also wasn't that experienced at first team level so really needed players around him in midfield to help guide him and improve him and he arguably didn't have that.

We also seen the benefit of taking a player out of the firing line when Jack Ross would drop Josh Doig in and out of the team when he was breaking through. Josh didn't have that nearly as much under Maloney and I remember an interview with Maloney where he'd said something like we needed to get the likes of Josh into the Scotland team, which I thought put a lot of extra pressure on him.

From what we've seen in the two pre season friendlies, LJ has Josh playing in a more natural position and also has Newell and JDH looking to make more runs and passes forward but also has a player up front and out wide making moves and looking to get the ball. He immediately has a lot more options to work with and looks a different player.

I think if we get behind Josh this season and LJs tactics are more positive and we have more mobility in the team we'll see a completely different Josh Campbell and a few will be happy to eat their words about him.

I don't disagree with that. Hung out to dry sums it up pretty well for me.

Your last point - I'd more than happily eat my words about Campbell. I'll be delighted if he has a great season. Does it only work one way though? If he's poor again this season, will others have to eat their words?

Hibbyradge
04-07-2022, 09:55 AM
He’s absolutely not an attacking midfielder imo. Josh Campbell looks more comfortable further back.

He's exactly an attacking midfielder.

Northernhibee
04-07-2022, 10:00 AM
I don't disagree with that. Hung out to dry sums it up pretty well for me.

Your last point - I'd more than happily eat my words about Campbell. I'll be delighted if he has a great season. Does it only work one way though? If he's poor again this season, will others have to eat their words?

Well no, I wouldn't be "happy" to eat my words because that will mean that a Hibs player did not have a good season and that would be disappointing. It's quite a different dynamic from a Hibs player doing better than expected. Nobody wins otherwise.

CapitalGreen
04-07-2022, 10:02 AM
To take the thread back to transfers as opposed to discussions about players who have been at the club since their teens. Any ideas of who the new players rumoured to be close to signing are? Looking at who would be realistic, available and fitting the profile of our recent signings, this is who I’ve came up with.

Centre Back is close to done according to those who spoke with LJ in Portugal.

Cameron Humphreys - 23yo 6ft 2, ex-Man City defender who has just become a free agent at Belgian club Zulte Waregem. Was linked with Rangers and a host of Championship clubs towards the end of last season but nothing seems to have happened there.

Jacob Bedeau - 22yo, 6ft, Burnley defender. His contract expires next year but he has yet to play for them. 61 appearances over the last 2 seasons for Scunthorpe and Morecambe - Morecambe fans are very keen to get him back.

Attack minded midfielder - as rumoured by 21smay. I got the impression from them that this signing might a well known name or be seen as a bit of a coup if it happened so took that into account.

- Romaine Sawyers
- Luke Freeman - played with LJ during his first season managing Bristol City
- Alen Halilovic
- Jack Wilshere

All of the above are free agents.

Unlikely we’ll sign any of the above in reality but hopefully moves the chat away from the tedium of talking about Josh Campbell and back to transfers.

easty
04-07-2022, 10:14 AM
To take the thread back to transfers as opposed to discussions about players who have been at the club since their teens. Any ideas of who the new players rumoured to be close to signing are? Looking at who would be realistic, available and fitting the profile of our recent signings, this is who I’ve came up with.

Centre Back is close to done according to those who spoke with LJ in Portugal.

Cameron Humphreys - 23yo 6ft 2, ex-Man City defender who has just become a free agent at Belgian club Zulte Waregem. Was linked with Rangers and a host of Championship clubs towards the end of last season but nothing seems to have happened there.

Jacob Bedeau - 22yo, 6ft, Burnley defender. His contract expires next year but he has yet to play for them. 61 appearances over the last 2 seasons for Scunthorpe and Morecambe - Morecambe fans are very keen to get him back.

Attack minded midfielder - as rumoured by 21smay. I got the impression from them that this signing might a well known name or be seen as a bit of a coup if it happened so took that into account.

- Romaine Sawyers
- Luke Freeman - played with LJ during his first season managing Bristol City
- Alen Halilovic
- Jack Wilshere

All of the above are free agents.

Unlikely we’ll sign any of the above in reality but hopefully moves the chat away from the tedium of talking about Josh Campbell and back to transfers.

Halilovic would be interesting. Some career he's had.

I hope that there's no chance of us getting Wilshere though. He'd be a terrible signing.

OldEast
04-07-2022, 10:16 AM
He’s absolutely not an attacking midfielder imo. Josh Campbell looks more comfortable further back.

This season will show you just how good an attacking midfielder he can be.

Northernhibee
04-07-2022, 10:38 AM
Halilovic would be interesting. Some career he's had.

I hope that there's no chance of us getting Wilshere though. He'd be a terrible signing.

Notived that Halilovic can play out wide as well as in a central attacking midfield position. Pretty sure it's been said on here before that a CB and a winger have been the priorities for us.

Brightside
04-07-2022, 10:42 AM
This season will show you just how good an attacking midfielder he can be.

Totally agree. Much better in the final third.

Hibernian Verse
04-07-2022, 10:49 AM
Halilovic is an FM legend. On that basis, hope he signs.

Souter96Mac
04-07-2022, 11:16 AM
Both of the above centre Half's seem like decent enough options without being spectacular.

From the list of attacking mids, Sawyers and Halilovic are the standouts. Freeman's not played many games in the last 3/4 years. Think our physios are busy enough without Wilshere

Haymaker
04-07-2022, 11:40 AM
:hyper

King Cosell
04-07-2022, 11:58 AM
Connor Mahoney's still available. Pretty sure he'll be on LJ's radar.

Blocks Biloxi
04-07-2022, 12:11 PM
I used to watch Romaine Sawyers a fair bit when he was at Brentford and was disappointed when he moved on - although I think he had a point to prove at West Brom. Would be amazed if he's not snapped up by a top-half Championship side.

04Sauzee
04-07-2022, 12:13 PM
There was definitely talk about Conor McGrandles moving back to Scotland and there was definitely talk about Hibs being the club that were in for him. Wonder where he will end up.

Can't recall seeing him play so not idea what type of player he is

bigwheel
04-07-2022, 12:14 PM
There was definitely talk about Conor McGrandles moving back to Scotland and there was definitely talk about Hibs being the club that were in for him. Wonder where he will end up.

Can't recall seeing him play so not idea what type of player he is

Signed for Charlton

04Sauzee
04-07-2022, 12:20 PM
Signed for Charlton

I totally missed this, all the talk from his previous club was that his partner had already moved back home and he was joining a club in Scotland.

On another note regarding Charlton I see Killie beat them in a friendly .

jacomo
04-07-2022, 12:22 PM
This season will show you just how good an attacking midfielder he can be.


Can’t wait…

CapitalGreen
04-07-2022, 12:25 PM
One we have repeatedly been linked with - Darragh Burns signing for MK Dons for around £200k.

Since452
04-07-2022, 12:32 PM
Connor Mahoney's still available. Pretty sure he'll be on LJ's radar.

Mahoney out (nervous twitch).

Willis1875
04-07-2022, 12:53 PM
Connor Mahoney's still available. Pretty sure he'll be on LJ's radar.

Huddersfield want him

jacomo
04-07-2022, 12:54 PM
:hyper


I can exclusively reveal that Leigh Griffiths is returning to Easter Road!

He will need to be on his best behaviour though. The club are clear that all supporters must respect the rules while watching a match, even famous ones.

Greenworld
04-07-2022, 01:02 PM
I can exclusively reveal that Leigh Griffiths is returning to Easter Road!

He will need to be on his best behaviour though. The club are clear that all supporters must respect the rules while watching a match, even famous ones.It's an interesting offer 6 months rolling contract

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Bridge hibs
04-07-2022, 01:20 PM
It's an interesting offer 6 months rolling contract

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using TapatalkHope he doesnt think he can wobble straight to the front of the pie queue, he needs to prove his lack of fitness first 🤬

badabing67
04-07-2022, 01:22 PM
I can exclusively reveal that Leigh Griffiths is returning to Easter Road!

He will need to be on his best behaviour though. The club are clear that all supporters must respect the rules while watching a match, even famous ones.


Nah, you nearly had me there though :na na:

Hibees1973
04-07-2022, 01:46 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to ........... Yaaaaaam of the week. Our first contestant is 'Donno'

What subjects are you hoping to avoid 'donno'

Erm, football mate, I know sod all about it.

OK 'donno' before we start what are your interests outside of work.

Oh, eh, .... I collect cardigans and I'm currently restoring a classic Rover motor car.

Ha Ha ... nice. OK donno, here's your first question, it's on footballers transfer values.

Oh bugger !!!

Some folk on here really are a bit precious.

Seems some posters are keeping a count of people who give their honest opinion (some critical of Hibs), then if they reach their own pre-requisite amount, out them as a Yam.

There was even a guy who took the time to trawl through some of my posts, really can't remember his name. He found 4 or 5 critical posts of mine over the last couple of years, collated them together then called me a Yam. He didn't even think to quote any of the numerous positive quotes I give. Strange behaviour.

This platform is to give positive and critical comments on Hibs. There are some lazy posters too quick to label others as a Yam, when really their evidence is at best flimsy.

I like to read critical comments on Hibs. These are often the most amusing ones, as in the end is this forum not just a bit of fun.

Some people take critical responses personally, even if it's not aimed at them. It's almost as if they take any criticism of Hibs personally.

Hibbyradge
04-07-2022, 02:00 PM
Some folk on here really are a bit precious.

Seems some posters are keeping a count of people who give their honest opinion (some critical of Hibs), then if they reach their own pre-requisite amount, out them as a Yam.

There was even a guy who took the time to trawl through some of my posts, really can't remember his name. He found 4 or 5 critical posts of mine over the last couple of years, collated them together then called me a Yam. He didn't even think to quote any of the numerous positive quotes I give. Strange behaviour.

This platform is to give positive and critical comments on Hibs. There are some lazy posters too quick to label others as a Yam, when really their evidence is at best flimsy.

I like to read critical comments on Hibs. These are often the most amusing ones, as in the end is this forum not just a bit of fun.

Some people take critical responses personally, even if it's not aimed at them. It's almost as if they take any criticism of Hibs personally.

I think the post you have criticised was just a bit of fun!

But let's face it. £500k max for Doig? That poster is either drunk, no right, or he's at it.

Aldo
04-07-2022, 02:01 PM
Some folk on here really are a bit precious.

Seems some posters are keeping a count of people who give their honest opinion (some critical of Hibs), then if they reach their own pre-requisite amount, out them as a Yam.

There was even a guy who took the time to trawl through some of my posts, really can't remember his name. He found 4 or 5 critical posts of mine over the last couple of years, collated them together then called me a Yam. He didn't even think to quote any of the numerous positive quotes I give. Strange behaviour.

This platform is to give positive and critical comments on Hibs. There are some lazy posters too quick to label others as a Yam, when really their evidence is at best flimsy.

I like to read critical comments on Hibs. These are often the most amusing ones, as in the end is this forum not just a bit of fun.

Some people take critical responses personally, even if it's not aimed at them. It's almost as if they take any criticism of Hibs personally.

Well what are your thoughts on the initial post the poster is replying to. Do you think it’s an honest summation of Doig. Using the word brutal and we’d be lucky to get a bid of 500k??

I would suggest that this evidence isn’t flimsy but trolling etc!


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Groathillgrump
04-07-2022, 02:06 PM
I think the post you have criticised was just a bit of fun!

But let's face it. £500k max for Doig? That poster is either drunk, no right, or he's at it.

Based on his valuation of Doig I'd say he falls into all three categories. :greengrin

Gordy M
04-07-2022, 02:13 PM
Some folk on here really are a bit precious.

Seems some posters are keeping a count of people who give their honest opinion (some critical of Hibs), then if they reach their own pre-requisite amount, out them as a Yam.

There was even a guy who took the time to trawl through some of my posts, really can't remember his name. He found 4 or 5 critical posts of mine over the last couple of years, collated them together then called me a Yam. He didn't even think to quote any of the numerous positive quotes I give. Strange behaviour.

This platform is to give positive and critical comments on Hibs. There are some lazy posters too quick to label others as a Yam, when really their evidence is at best flimsy.

I like to read critical comments on Hibs. These are often the most amusing ones, as in the end is this forum not just a bit of fun.

Some people take critical responses personally, even if it's not aimed at them. It's almost as if they take any criticism of Hibs personally.

While you are right in that everyone is entitled to an opinion......however it is def odd that certain posters never praise hibs? If we get a good win, or a bit of good news, whatever it is, then nowhere to be seen, but happy to point out all the apparent bad things, results, players?

This is a Hibs supporters forum, you cant be surprised that when you critisize something that is as important as the team they support, that folk will push back?

Shrekko
04-07-2022, 02:41 PM
Some folk on here really are a bit precious.

Seems some posters are keeping a count of people who give their honest opinion (some critical of Hibs), then if they reach their own pre-requisite amount, out them as a Yam.

There was even a guy who took the time to trawl through some of my posts, really can't remember his name. He found 4 or 5 critical posts of mine over the last couple of years, collated them together then called me a Yam. He didn't even think to quote any of the numerous positive quotes I give. Strange behaviour.

This platform is to give positive and critical comments on Hibs. There are some lazy posters too quick to label others as a Yam, when really their evidence is at best flimsy.

I like to read critical comments on Hibs. These are often the most amusing ones, as in the end is this forum not just a bit of fun.

Some people take critical responses personally, even if it's not aimed at them. It's almost as if they take any criticism of Hibs personally.

You're right- Hibs fans who constantly are negative about Hibs (and never positive) shouldn't be classed as Yams - they're even worse than that.

Springbank
04-07-2022, 03:41 PM
To take the thread back to transfers as opposed to discussions about players who have been at the club since their teens. Any ideas of who the new players rumoured to be close to signing are? Looking at who would be realistic, available and fitting the profile of our recent signings, this is who I’ve came up with.

Centre Back is close to done according to those who spoke with LJ in Portugal.

Cameron Humphreys - 23yo 6ft 2, ex-Man City defender who has just become a free agent at Belgian club Zulte Waregem. Was linked with Rangers and a host of Championship clubs towards the end of last season but nothing seems to have happened there.

Jacob Bedeau - 22yo, 6ft, Burnley defender. His contract expires next year but he has yet to play for them. 61 appearances over the last 2 seasons for Scunthorpe and Morecambe - Morecambe fans are very keen to get him back.

Attack minded midfielder - as rumoured by 21smay. I got the impression from them that this signing might a well known name or be seen as a bit of a coup if it happened so took that into account.

- Romaine Sawyers
- Luke Freeman - played with LJ during his first season managing Bristol City
- Alen Halilovic
- Jack Wilshere

All of the above are free agents.

Unlikely we’ll sign any of the above in reality but hopefully moves the chat away from the tedium of talking about Josh Campbell and back to transfers.

Perhaps Connor Ronan?

04Sauzee
04-07-2022, 03:44 PM
Perhaps Connor Ronan?

Aberdeen and Hearts are meant to be very keen on him and I believe the fee that's been quoted is £500k. Apart from the screamers he's scored I haven't noticed much of him. Must be something about the guy to have some decent interest in him.

Hibees1973
04-07-2022, 05:37 PM
Well what are your thoughts on the initial post the poster is replying to. Do you think it’s an honest summation of Doig. Using the word brutal and we’d be lucky to get a bid of 500k??

I would suggest that this evidence isn’t flimsy but trolling etc!


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Doig is potentially a good player, much the same as Ramsay who moved to Liverpool for £4m and Hickey who I think left the Yams to Italy for £1.5m. Like everyone else on here I don't know if any bids have come in for Doig or what has been rejected.

Liverpool obviously deemed Ramsay a better prospect than Doig. I reckon Klopp is a decent judge of a player so we can forget getting anywhere near £4m for Doig. From what I have seen of Doig so far I'd rate in at £2m - £2.5m and would instantly take that sum of money for him as poor form or injury could come along at any time.

Unseen work
04-07-2022, 05:45 PM
Kilmarnock supposedly signing Jordan Jones and Liam Donnelly.

Two good signings if true, although Donnelly rarely seems to stay injury free for long.

jacomo
04-07-2022, 05:56 PM
Doig is potentially a good player, much the same as Ramsay who moved to Liverpool for £4m and Hickey who I think left the Yams to Italy for £1.5m. Like everyone else on here I don't know if any bids have come in for Doig or what has been rejected.

Liverpool obviously deemed Ramsay a better prospect than Doig. I reckon Klopp is a decent judge of a player so we can forget getting anywhere near £4m for Doig. From what I have seen of Doig so far I'd rate in at £2m - £2.5m and would instantly take that sum of money for him as poor form or injury could come along at any time.


Or maybe they weren’t looking for a left back this summer? Ramsay plays right back.

Tambo
04-07-2022, 06:27 PM
Not really sure if Johnson will go for another Central player unless someone goes.

New CB in the next few days? Maybe another wide player?

Aldo
04-07-2022, 06:28 PM
Doig is potentially a good player, much the same as Ramsay who moved to Liverpool for £4m and Hickey who I think left the Yams to Italy for £1.5m. Like everyone else on here I don't know if any bids have come in for Doig or what has been rejected.

Liverpool obviously deemed Ramsay a better prospect than Doig. I reckon Klopp is a decent judge of a player so we can forget getting anywhere near £4m for Doig. From what I have seen of Doig so far I'd rate in at £2m - £2.5m and would instantly take that sum of money for him as poor form or injury could come along at any time.

I think what I was getting at is you mentioned folk being targeted or looked at for post counts etc and being called yams with the evidence being flimsy?? The poster was clearly at it and had rightly been called out!

As for Doig I think he’ll go for around £3 million plus add ons but Heay I’m no Klopp so what do I know!


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hibees 7062
04-07-2022, 06:35 PM
Perhaps Connor Ronan?
Signed for Wolves

AlbertK86
04-07-2022, 06:37 PM
Signed for Wolves

Was already at Wolves and on loan to St Mirren


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hibees 7062
04-07-2022, 06:43 PM
Was already at Wolves and on loan to St Mirren


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Cheers , thinking of someone else

Crab apple
04-07-2022, 07:11 PM
Not really sure if Johnson will go for another Central player unless someone goes.

New CB in the next few days? Maybe another wide player?

Yep I think you're right with Martin Boyle maybe being that wide player.

Aldo
04-07-2022, 07:37 PM
Yep I think you're right with Martin Boyle maybe being that wide player.

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McD
04-07-2022, 09:00 PM
Doig is potentially a good player, much the same as Ramsay who moved to Liverpool for £4m and Hickey who I think left the Yams to Italy for £1.5m. Like everyone else on here I don't know if any bids have come in for Doig or what has been rejected.

Liverpool obviously deemed Ramsay a better prospect than Doig. I reckon Klopp is a decent judge of a player so we can forget getting anywhere near £4m for Doig. From what I have seen of Doig so far I'd rate in at £2m - £2.5m and would instantly take that sum of money for him as poor form or injury could come along at any time.


or Liverpool obviously know what position they wanted to recruit, Doig is a left full back/wingback/centre back, Ramsay is a right back. Them signing Ramsay is nothing to do with one being a better prospect than the other.

Greenworld
04-07-2022, 10:13 PM
Doig is potentially a good player, much the same as Ramsay who moved to Liverpool for £4m and Hickey who I think left the Yams to Italy for £1.5m. Like everyone else on here I don't know if any bids have come in for Doig or what has been rejected.

Liverpool obviously deemed Ramsay a better prospect than Doig. I reckon Klopp is a decent judge of a player so we can forget getting anywhere near £4m for Doig. From what I have seen of Doig so far I'd rate in at £2m - £2.5m and would instantly take that sum of money for him as poor form or injury could come along at any time.Your ok your not a good judge of player and have no idea of player values. Doig I hope we keep as he is going to be some player . Other teams know that I'll be amazed if he starts the season with hibs

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Unseen work
04-07-2022, 10:45 PM
Not really the thread for it but Johnson a big fan of Melkersen

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-lee-johnson-hails-elias-melkersen-after-portugal-showing-and-sets-targets-for-forward-3755381

Really excited to see what he can do this season.

Tha Cabbage Kid
05-07-2022, 06:15 AM
Hayden Coulson told he sulpess to requirement at Boro. Left back wing back. very good player and fast. if Doig goes would love to see him come in. attack minded and creative.
Not a rumour but someone who would be a good addition

MagicSwirlingShip
05-07-2022, 08:07 AM
Up to €22m (inc add ons) Bologna are getting for Hickey, according to Fabrizio Romano - some deal for them.

flash
05-07-2022, 08:11 AM
Up to €22m (inc add ons) Bologna are getting for Hickey, according to Fabrizio Romano - some deal for them.

Nothing against Hickey but that's absolutely incredible.

matty_f
05-07-2022, 08:18 AM
Nothing against Hickey but that's absolutely incredible.

I agree, I've not seen loads of Hickey but when I have seen him, I've never been blown away. Clearly there must be something there to generate that level of spend, though.

WeeRussell
05-07-2022, 08:29 AM
I agree, I've not seen loads of Hickey but when I have seen him, I've never been blown away. Clearly there must be something there to generate that level of spend, though.

Me too, but then when an English premiership side spends money it never surprises me how much anymore.

flash
05-07-2022, 08:29 AM
I agree, I've not seen loads of Hickey but when I have seen him, I've never been blown away. Clearly there must be something there to generate that level of spend, though.

I suppose its the inevitable outcome of creating a league where they have so much money that it completely loses its value.

lucky
05-07-2022, 08:42 AM
I agree, I've not seen loads of Hickey but when I have seen him, I've never been blown away. Clearly there must be something there to generate that level of spend, though.

Fair point but he’s played in a Scottish Cup Final at 16 and played a season or so in the Scottish Premiership then 30+ games in the Italian top flight plus international football. Lots of coaches obviously rate him and the fact he’s got so much experience at a young age so moving to Brentford is the next stage in his career. I think he’ll end up at one the top 6 EPL clubs.

Daydreamer
05-07-2022, 08:43 AM
I think what I was getting at is you mentioned folk being targeted or looked at for post counts etc and being called yams with the evidence being flimsy?? The poster was clearly at it and had rightly been called out!

As for Doig I think he’ll go for around £3 million plus add ons but Heay I’m no Klopp so what do I know!


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I know the Scottish scout of an English Championship club and he has had a good look at Doig a few times. He does'nt think at this present moment he is anywhere near that level and nowhere near the value that is being kicked around. Dont be surprised that Doig will be at Hibs for the coming season with no bids being forthcoming.

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 08:46 AM
I suppose its the inevitable outcome of creating a league where they have so much money that it completely loses its value.

Let's face it, elite level football is ****ed. The destination of Haaland was always ever going to be Real Madrid, PSG or Man City and will be the same for the very top level talents until the bubble bursts. The fact that when he signed for Man City the rumours started that he'll be at Real within two years just goes to show that there's no magic in it whatsoever.

I truly hope Scottish football remains largely untouched by all of this, it's a different world.

Smartie
05-07-2022, 08:50 AM
I know the Scottish scout of an English Championship club and he has had a good look at Doig a few times. He does'nt think at this present moment he is anywhere near that level and nowhere near the value that is being kicked around. Dont be surprised that Doig will be at Hibs for the coming season with no bids being forthcoming.

Me neither but he undoubtedly has massive potential and could easily reward someone prepared to take a punt on him.

I'd rather Doig stayed, improved a bit and then moved on when he was genuinely worth the money.

I reckon Doig is a sensible lad and knows this too.

Hopefully Hibs have been doing the right thing by him all along but I've often got the feeling that we're trying to force him out the door before he's really ready or wanting to move.

Sioux
05-07-2022, 09:00 AM
Me neither but he undoubtedly has massive potential and could easily reward someone prepared to take a punt on him.

I'd rather Doig stayed, improved a bit and then moved on when he was genuinely worth the money.

I reckon Doig is a sensible lad and knows this too.

Hopefully Hibs have been doing the right thing by him all along but I've often got the feeling that we're trying to force him out the door before he's really ready or wanting to move.

Who's forcing him out the door?

flash
05-07-2022, 09:01 AM
I know the Scottish scout of an English Championship club and he has had a good look at Doig a few times. He does'nt think at this present moment he is anywhere near that level and nowhere near the value that is being kicked around. Dont be surprised that Doig will be at Hibs for the coming season with no bids being forthcoming.

I tend to agree with that but you would be buying potential which he definitely has in spades.
He is a big unit for a young guy and has a great motor. With these starting blocks the rest can be worked on.
Hopefully he stays and improves with us.

Greenworld
05-07-2022, 09:11 AM
I know the Scottish scout of an English Championship club and he has had a good look at Doig a few times. He does'nt think at this present moment he is anywhere near that level and nowhere near the value that is being kicked around. Dont be surprised that Doig will be at Hibs for the coming season with no bids being forthcoming.Fortunately there are 100's of scouts out there all looking for different things. Doig has his attributes an athlete , good height if he stays at hibs fantastic a great player , however there are other scouts out there who rate him highly . He would do very well abroad if that's where he ends up

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brog
05-07-2022, 09:24 AM
Both are significantly better than Campbell, though.


Fortunately there are 100's of scouts out there all looking for different things. Doig has his attributes an athlete , good height if he stays at hibs fantastic a great player , however there are other scouts out there who rate him highly . He would do very well abroad if that's where he ends up

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I agree, personally I feel Josh has more chance of making it in Engerlund than Hickey.

bigwheel
05-07-2022, 09:27 AM
I agree, personally I feel Josh has more chance of making it in Engerlund than Hickey.

Hickey’s been performing well regularly in Seria A

I like Doig, and think he can go on to play at a good
Level - but surely Hickey has proven that ???

Paulie Walnuts
05-07-2022, 09:41 AM
Fair point but he’s played in a Scottish Cup Final at 16 and played a season or so in the Scottish Premiership then 30+ games in the Italian top flight plus international football. Lots of coaches obviously rate him and the fact he’s got so much experience at a young age so moving to Brentford is the next stage in his career. I think he’ll end up at one the top 6 EPL clubs.

Agree.

Hickey is a cracking player and has some great experience where he’s also been a huge success for somebody his age.

stuart-farquhar
05-07-2022, 09:46 AM
I tend to agree with that but you would be buying potential which he definitely has in spades.
He is a big unit for a young guy and has a great motor. With these starting blocks the rest can be worked on.
Hopefully he stays and improves with us.

Spades? A big unit with a great motor AND starting blocks! Lol. A construction vehicle?

Torto7
05-07-2022, 09:48 AM
I know the Scottish scout of an English Championship club and he has had a good look at Doig a few times. He does'nt think at this present moment he is anywhere near that level and nowhere near the value that is being kicked around. Dont be surprised that Doig will be at Hibs for the coming season with no bids being forthcoming.

Who? He must be a poor scout.

flash
05-07-2022, 09:54 AM
Spades? A big unit with a great motor AND starting blocks! Lol. A construction vehicle?

A tank.

Smartie
05-07-2022, 09:59 AM
Who? He must be a poor scout.

I didn't think Doig had a great season last season. He was often played out of position and was culpable for us losing a few goals. If the scout saw all of our games then he'd probably see the mixed bag. If he saw a select few performances I could certainly understand how a scout might think he's not deserving of the accolades that come his way. If he'd been at others though, I could certainly understand how a scout might think he's very good indeed.

The time is right for Doig to play in his best position and play in an attacking side that will show his best attributes off, and with better players playing in a better formation that will help him show what he's all about a bit better.

I actually think Doig would be better suited to England than Hickey - because English football is more about physicality than technical ability and I think Doig has more to offer there. Hickey would be more suited to Italian football though and I'm not convinced the rawer but more physical Doig would fit in as well as Hickey there.

Since452
05-07-2022, 10:04 AM
I agree, I've not seen loads of Hickey but when I have seen him, I've never been blown away. Clearly there must be something there to generate that level of spend, though.

He was brilliant against us at Easter Road. Sure he scored. On the flip side i thought he was poor in a game at Tynecastle. Very good player for his age though.

Paulie Walnuts
05-07-2022, 10:19 AM
He was brilliant against us at Easter Road. Sure he scored. On the flip side i thought he was poor in a game at Tynecastle. Very good player for his age though.

Yup. He was the best player on the park that day imo and he must have only been 16/17.

Libby Hibby
05-07-2022, 10:20 AM
I’m sorry but Hickey is nothing special, incredible business to get that sort of money for a very average and limited footballer.

Greenworld
05-07-2022, 10:22 AM
The great thing is Doig is only going if the reported 4 million value is met . Otherwise we have a cracking young player in our team .
Same with porteous if he is staying as well then we look good at the back with Marshall behind them .
I'm more concerned with tying porteous down to me he is the best player we have

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Paulie Walnuts
05-07-2022, 10:25 AM
I’m sorry but Hickey is nothing special, incredible business to get that sort of money for a very average and limited footballer.

Just turned 20 last month, has played in a cup final (and won MOTM I’m sure?) and the Serie A. 81 first team appearances, 6 goals (48 appearances and 5 goals in Italy from full back). Full international. On the list for the Golden Boy award.

I’d go as far as saying Brentford have got themselves a steal at that price when you see what other players go for down there.

I’m sorry but if he’a “nothing special” then I’d hate to think what 99.9% of the worlds footballers would be described as.

Hibernian Verse
05-07-2022, 10:25 AM
Just turned 20 last month, has played in a cup final (and won MOTM) and the Serie A. 81 first team appearances, 6 goals (48 appearances and 5 goals in Italy from full back). Full international. On the list for the Golden Boy award.

I’d go as far as saying Brentford have got themselves a steal at that price when you see what other players go for down there.

I’m sorry but if he’a “nothing special” then I’d hate to think what 99.9% of the worlds footballers would be described as.

Wait till we lose our first game of the season...

Smartie
05-07-2022, 10:26 AM
The great thing is Doig is only going if the reported 4 million value is met . Otherwise we have a cracking young player in our team .
Same with porteous if he is staying as well then we look good at the back with Marshall behind them .
I'm more concerned with tying porteous down to me he is the best player we have

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Problem is, I think there is zero chance we will tie Porteous down. He either leaves now and we get what we can with a year on his contract or he goes in a year and we get nowt, although possibly after an excellent year of football as he tries to get as many options as possible for himself at the end of his contract.

Stuart93
05-07-2022, 10:53 AM
Problem is, I think there is zero chance we will tie Porteous down. He either leaves now and we get what we can with a year on his contract or he goes in a year and we get nowt, although possibly after an excellent year of football as he tries to get as many options as possible for himself at the end of his contract.

Supposedly there’s a big offer by our standards on the table for him and has been for a while. Just hasn’t signed it.

He’s maybe not as hibs through n through as we think

Smartie
05-07-2022, 11:00 AM
Supposedly there’s a big offer by our standards on the table for him and has been for a while. Just hasn’t signed it.

He’s maybe not as hibs through n through as we think

He's a good player, has confidence in his own ability and a lot of ambition.

I don't think I'd question his "through and through" credentials but he's simply got ideas a few levels above our station.

When push comes to shove, all players are more interested in their own progress than the progress of the club they followed as a kid.

It's nice if the 2 can align for a while though, and it's always better when they move somewhere where they're not coming back to play against us.

Libby Hibby
05-07-2022, 11:03 AM
Just turned 20 last month, has played in a cup final (and won MOTM I’m sure?) and the Serie A. 81 first team appearances, 6 goals (48 appearances and 5 goals in Italy from full back). Full international. On the list for the Golden Boy award.

I’d go as far as saying Brentford have got themselves a steal at that price when you see what other players go for down there.

I’m sorry but if he’a “nothing special” then I’d hate to think what 99.9% of the worlds footballers would be described as.

Vastly over rated and will be found out I’m sure in the English Premiership.

Allant1981
05-07-2022, 11:04 AM
I’m sorry but Hickey is nothing special, incredible business to get that sort of money for a very average and limited footballer.

Each to their own but cant see very average, limited players playing regularly in serie A

MrRobot
05-07-2022, 11:06 AM
Supposedly there’s a big offer by our standards on the table for him and has been for a while. Just hasn’t signed it.

He’s maybe not as hibs through n through as we think

He’s maybe not hibs through and through because he hasn’t signed a new deal, which has supposedly been offered? :dunno:

Stuart93
05-07-2022, 11:08 AM
He’s maybe not hibs through and through because he hasn’t signed a new deal, which has supposedly been offered? :dunno:

That’s correct.

Martin Boyle done the right thing.

JimBHibees
05-07-2022, 11:10 AM
Supposedly there’s a big offer by our standards on the table for him and has been for a while. Just hasn’t signed it.

He’s maybe not as hibs through n through as we think

He definitely should be looking after his interests though ideally he would sign a deal which means the club benefit when he leaves.

Brightside
05-07-2022, 11:17 AM
Who's forcing him out the door?

I dont think anyone at the club is tbh, and he has said he's in no rush to move on. That's not to say there arent other people in his ear trying to push him to the next club.

MrRobot
05-07-2022, 11:20 AM
That’s correct.

Martin Boyle done the right thing.

I agree Boyle done the right thing and ideally Porto will too, however it’s based on something that’s supposedly happened and not actually happened.

He does need to look after his own interests but i’d hope he will also look after hibs best interests.

NAE NOOKIE
05-07-2022, 11:26 AM
Some folk on here really are a bit precious.

Seems some posters are keeping a count of people who give their honest opinion (some critical of Hibs), then if they reach their own pre-requisite amount, out them as a Yam.

There was even a guy who took the time to trawl through some of my posts, really can't remember his name. He found 4 or 5 critical posts of mine over the last couple of years, collated them together then called me a Yam. He didn't even think to quote any of the numerous positive quotes I give. Strange behaviour.

This platform is to give positive and critical comments on Hibs. There are some lazy posters too quick to label others as a Yam, when really their evidence is at best flimsy.

I like to read critical comments on Hibs. These are often the most amusing ones, as in the end is this forum not just a bit of fun.

Some people take critical responses personally, even if it's not aimed at them. It's almost as if they take any criticism of Hibs personally.

All I can say to that mate is, feel free to trawl through my posts and get back to me with how many times in 15 years and 12,000 odd posts I've accused anybody of being a Jambo on here, you will find it's as rare as hens teeth. Unless a comment actually is personal I don't take it personally.

But sometimes somebody's assessment of a player or an aspect relating to the club is so utterly negative it's hard not to draw that conclusion and suggesting the best offer Hibs could expect for someone as promising as Josh Doig is half a million quid falls into that category for me, especially on the back of Liverpool having just paid four million quid for an 18 year old right back with 28 first team games under his belt for a team who were worse than us last season.

In that scenario suggesting Doig is worth £500,000 is either ridiculously naive or just trolling.

Smartie
05-07-2022, 11:36 AM
All I can say to that mate is, feel free to trawl through my posts and get back to me with how many times in 15 years and 12,000 odd posts I've accused anybody of being a Jambo on here, you will find it's as rare as hens teeth. Unless a comment actually is personal I don't take it personally.

But sometimes somebody's assessment of a player or an aspect relating to the club is so utterly negative it's hard not to draw that conclusion and suggesting the best offer Hibs could expect for someone as promising as Josh Doig is half a million quid falls into that category for me, especially on the back of Liverpool having just paid four million quid for an 18 year old right back with 28 first team games under his belt for a team who were worse than us last season.

In that scenario suggesting Doig is worth £500,000 is either ridiculously naive or just trolling.

I find it quite hard to put a value on a player.

At the end of the day, they're worth what someone is prepared to pay for them. We don't know what anyone would be prepared to pay for Doig.

The market for footballers is totally skewed by the insane amounts of money swilling around in the English game and it makes it tempting to overvalue all of our players.

Doig didn't have a brilliant season last season, certainly not as good as his first. An argument could be made, on the back of that, that he's a very average left sided centre back with potential to improve. How much would one of those be worth, if the English clubs with the money didn't see it in him? Is half a million all that outrageous?

With Doig it's all about potential and that's difficult to put a price on. A good season as an attacking fullback in a team that gets forward in numbers and the half a million could easily look ridiculous. But as it stands, I don't think it's a crazy opinion to hold, even if I'd value him a fair bit above that personally.

Since452
05-07-2022, 11:39 AM
With Doig you'd be buying potential, that's what will make him worth a lot of money. He's far from the finished article and i think we could replace him because of that but he has the potential to go on and be very, very good. 4/5 million is what i'd be looking for with add ons. I don't think we should accept anything less.

Hibees1973
05-07-2022, 11:40 AM
Supposedly there’s a big offer by our standards on the table for him and has been for a while. Just hasn’t signed it.

He’s maybe not as hibs through n through as we think

So, if Porteous and his agent think he can move on to a club that offer better wages, what's wrong with that in this day and age.

Labelling him as not being Hibs through and through by not signing the contract we have put on offer is a bit harsh. Yes, he could sign the contract to enable us to get a big fee for him but he is not obliged to.

The Porteous scenario is the same as when McGinn left. McGinn only had one year on his contract when he left for Villa which in some way restricted the transfer fee we got for him. He didn't sign a longer contract to enable us to get a bigger and probably more accurate fee (£5m - £6m).

Porteous is within his right to sit and wait until offers come in or even run his contract down and we get nowt. Souttar did the same with the Yams.

Heisenberg
05-07-2022, 11:40 AM
Jamie Murphy signs for St Johnstone.

Stuart93
05-07-2022, 11:42 AM
So, if Porteous and his agent think he can move on to a club that offer better wages, what's wrong with that in this day and age.

Labelling him as not being Hibs through and through by not signing the contract we have put on offer is a bit harsh. Yes, he could sign the contract to enable us to get a big fee for him but he is not obliged to.

The Porteous scenario is the same as when McGinn left. McGinn only had one year on his contract when he left for Villa which in some way restricted the transfer fee we got for him. He didn't sign a longer contract to enable us to get a bigger and probably more accurate fee (£5m - £6m).

Porteous is within his right to sit and wait until offers come in or even run his contract down and we get nowt. Souttar did the same with the Yams.

And souttar got dogs abuse from hearts fans for doing so.

He can protect his own interests and hibs’ by signing an extension but potentially including a buy out clause.

matty_f
05-07-2022, 11:42 AM
He was brilliant against us at Easter Road. Sure he scored. On the flip side i thought he was poor in a game at Tynecastle. Very good player for his age though.

I don't remember him being brilliant but then I struggle to give that lot Abby credit at any time so I'm probably not the best person to judge :greengrin

I'm sure his goal took a massive deflection as well

Please don't think I'm saying he's not a good player, I'm not talking him down - I haven't paid enough attention to him to say one way or the other. Just didn't see it myself when I watched him.

NAE NOOKIE
05-07-2022, 11:47 AM
I find it quite hard to put a value on a player.

At the end of the day, they're worth what someone is prepared to pay for them. We don't know what anyone would be prepared to pay for Doig.

The market for footballers is totally skewed by the insane amounts of money swilling around in the English game and it makes it tempting to overvalue all of our players.

Doig didn't have a brilliant season last season, certainly not as good as his first. An argument could be made, on the back of that, that he's a very average left sided centre back with potential to improve. How much would one of those be worth, if the English clubs with the money didn't see it in him? Is half a million all that outrageous?

With Doig it's all about potential and that's difficult to put a price on. A good season as an attacking fullback in a team that gets forward in numbers and the half a million could easily look ridiculous. But as it stands, I don't think it's a crazy opinion to hold, even if I'd value him a fair bit above that personally.

Indeed mate, in which case all you can do is look at what the market is prepared to pay for potential, in Liverpool's case that appears to be over 4 million quid and they are far from the first club to pay over 2 million quid for that type of player. That's context and though I do not put Doig in the 4 million quid bracket I just think anybody saying he is worth half a million in today's market is at it. Opinions aside can you see any scenario short of a fire sale where Hibs would let Josh Doig go for that sort of money?

badabing67
05-07-2022, 11:48 AM
Jamie Murphy signs for St Johnstone.

Think that's a good signing for them

Since452
05-07-2022, 11:52 AM
Jamie Murphy signs for St Johnstone.

Who do we play first game again?...

Hibernian Verse
05-07-2022, 11:53 AM
Who do we play first game again?...

Not him anyway, he'll be injured.

Hibees1973
05-07-2022, 11:56 AM
And souttar got dogs abuse from hearts fans for doing so.

He can protect his own interests and hibs’ by signing an extension but potentially including a buy out clause.

Yes, Souttar got dogs abuse from Hearts fans but don't think it affected his form.

Porteous is a strong character and if he doesn't sign a new contract and stays, I fully expect him to still be one of our more effective players. Not sure if Porteous is protecting his own interests if he wants a move but signs a new contract with us. There is more chance of him getting a better contract/signing on fee if the club that buys him gets Porteous at a lower price.

I agree it would 100% protect the club's interests and would lead to us getting a potentially higher transfer fee, but not Porteous.

easty
05-07-2022, 12:03 PM
I can take off the green-tinted specs and say Hickey is very obviously a very good young player.

He only recently turned 20 years old, but he made his international debut and was and a regular starter in Serie A at 19 years old. I think he'll go to Brentford and kick on, and get a move to a better team in a couple of seasons max.

Smartie
05-07-2022, 12:13 PM
Indeed mate, in which case all you can do is look at what the market is prepared to pay for potential, in Liverpool's case that appears to be over 4 million quid and they are far from the first club to pay over 2 million quid for that type of player. That's context and though I do not put Doig in the 4 million quid bracket I just think anybody saying he is worth half a million in today's market is at it. Opinions aside can you see any scenario short of a fire sale where Hibs would let Josh Doig go for that sort of money?

No, I can't.

Fire sale - stranger things have happened.

Doig doesn't really kick on, contract gets into last year and we're faced with half a million or nothing - stranger things have happened.

Someone from the West lowballs us with half a million, get Doig to kick off big time via agent antics etc and Hibs end up in an impossible situation - stranger things have happened.


I think the £4m stuff is fanciful and Aberdeen won a watch to catch Liverpool's eye for a player who is so far from the finished article but who has shown potential.

It's hard to see Hibs turning down £1.5m - £2m at this stage. A solid season this season though and you could easily double that and then some, which is why I'd been keen to keep him. Especially since he seems happy, keen to stay and understands the importance of playing regularly in his development.

Smartie
05-07-2022, 12:15 PM
I can take off the green-tinted specs and say Hickey is very obviously a very good young player.

He only recently turned 20 years old, but he made his international debut and was and a regular starter in Serie A at 19 years old. I think he'll go to Brentford and kick on, and get a move to a better team in a couple of seasons max.

Truth is, I don't think many of us have actually seen enough of him to form an opinion - other than his performances for Hearts against Hibs, the odd highlight from Italy and his "quiet" debut for Scotland in a tough game against Ukraine.

scoopyboy
05-07-2022, 12:41 PM
Part of the reason Porto hasn't signed the deal that is on the table is he reckoned the club was showing a lack of ambition, hopefully he may have changed his view on that the last couple of weeks.

Hibs offer is a good one and comparable with ones that have been mentioned in dispatches from Championship clubs. He might just sign, I would say there is more chance now than there was a month ago

Crab apple
05-07-2022, 12:54 PM
Part of the reason Porto hasn't signed the deal that is on the table is he reckoned the club was showing a lack of ambition, hopefully he may have changed his view on that the last couple of weeks.

Hibs offer is a good one and comparable with ones that have been mentioned in dispatches from Championship clubs. He might just sign, I would say there is more chance now than there was a month ago

And offering him the captaincy might further help seal the deal.

MagicSwirlingShip
05-07-2022, 12:59 PM
Part of the reason Porto hasn't signed the deal that is on the table is he reckoned the club was showing a lack of ambition, hopefully he may have changed his view on that the last couple of weeks.

Hibs offer is a good one and comparable with ones that have been mentioned in dispatches from Championship clubs. He might just sign, I would say there is more chance now than there was a month ago

Hopefully more to come and we can get a contract extension announcement from the club once the window shuts

leith lynx
05-07-2022, 01:10 PM
And offering him the captaincy might further help seal the deal.

Yes, give him the armband, we have lacked a real leader for a while now.

Hibernian Verse
05-07-2022, 01:16 PM
Has there been any indication of when Bojang will be able to join up with the squad?

Golden Bear
05-07-2022, 01:16 PM
Hopefully more to come and we can get a contract extension announcement from the club once the window shuts

It would be brilliant if he did sign a new contract but inwardly I can't help thinking that he's a marked man in the cesspit of Scottish Football and for the sake of his career he would be better moving to pastures new.

Brightside
05-07-2022, 01:16 PM
And offering him the captaincy might further help seal the deal.

If we are handing out captains armbands just to get someone to sign a deal (just weeks after publicly reprimanding him) then i'd be worried about the decision making at the club.

Cat Stanton
05-07-2022, 01:29 PM
Jamie Murphy signs for St Johnstone.

Rather them than us. He should never have been near our first team after his performance in the league cup final. In my humble opinion etc etc etc obviously....!

Paulie Walnuts
05-07-2022, 01:42 PM
I can take off the green-tinted specs and say Hickey is very obviously a very good young player.

He only recently turned 20 years old, but he made his international debut and was and a regular starter in Serie A at 19 years old. I think he'll go to Brentford and kick on, and get a move to a better team in a couple of seasons max.

:agree:

I’d suspect if Hickey hadn’t played for Hearts and simply broke through at Bologna and played nearly every game last season whilst being 19 years old that we’d be seeing a much more honest appraisal of him.

You don’t end up being nominated for the golden boy award and moving for £1.5m or whatever it was then again for £20m by the time you’ve just turned 20 years old unless you’re a bit special.

I’d fancy he’ll spend 2 years at Brentford then he’ll be away to one of the big clubs in world football whether that’s in england or abroad.

oneone73
05-07-2022, 01:50 PM
Has anyone got any info on who the goalkeeping coach might be?

tamig
05-07-2022, 02:03 PM
I’m sorry but Hickey is nothing special, incredible business to get that sort of money for a very average and limited footballer.

That is some statement. The boy is an excellent talent, barely out of his teens and is only going to get better. I’m struggling to see how you could possibly reach your conclusion.

Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 02:08 PM
Yes, give him the armband, we have lacked a real leader for a while now.

Where's Porto been?

04Sauzee
05-07-2022, 02:11 PM
Has anyone got any info on who the goalkeeping coach might be?

Sure I read there would be an announcement soon, the guy in Portugal was meant to be just standing in?

The Modfather
05-07-2022, 02:18 PM
I didn't think Doig had a great season last season. He was often played out of position and was culpable for us losing a few goals. If the scout saw all of our games then he'd probably see the mixed bag. If he saw a select few performances I could certainly understand how a scout might think he's not deserving of the accolades that come his way. If he'd been at others though, I could certainly understand how a scout might think he's very good indeed.

The time is right for Doig to play in his best position and play in an attacking side that will show his best attributes off, and with better players playing in a better formation that will help him show what he's all about a bit better.

I actually think Doig would be better suited to England than Hickey - because English football is more about physicality than technical ability and I think Doig has more to offer there. Hickey would be more suited to Italian football though and I'm not convinced the rawer but more physical Doig would fit in as well as Hickey there.

I’m sure I remember someone on here putting up an article that said Doig was in the top 20 U21 year olds in Europe (presumably defenders) last season stats wise. I know it’s the way of the modern world that players are becoming judged on stats more than what you see with your own eyes. Same with JDH & Newell being among the top midfielders for key stats. While all that might be true it was difficult to see much evidence of that from a wretched season where everyone struggled.

Apologies to go off on an old man’s rant, particularly as you weren’t talking about stats. Thought Doig was ok last season but a drop off from his debut season. Which is probably to be expected, hopefully he really kicks on again this season.

ekhibee
05-07-2022, 02:27 PM
Part of the reason Porto hasn't signed the deal that is on the table is he reckoned the club was showing a lack of ambition, hopefully he may have changed his view on that the last couple of weeks.

Hibs offer is a good one and comparable with ones that have been mentioned in dispatches from Championship clubs. He might just sign, I would say there is more chance now than there was a month ago
I would hope we don't end up as the same situation we had with Riordan, running down his contract then buggering off to Celtic to keep the bench warm for next to nothing.4

Brightside
05-07-2022, 02:30 PM
I’m sure I remember someone on here putting up an article that said Doig was in the top 20 U21 year olds in Europe (presumably defenders) last season stats wise. I know it’s the way of the modern world that players are becoming judged on stats more than what you see with your own eyes. Same with JDH & Newell being among the top midfielders for key stats. While all that might be true it was difficult to see much evidence of that from a wretched season where everyone struggled.

Apologies to go off on an old man’s rant, particularly as you weren’t talking about stats. Thought Doig was ok last season but a drop off from his debut season. Which is probably to be expected, hopefully he really kicks on again this season.

JDH was one of the best defensively....very low on stats for forward passes that create chances.

WhileTheChief..
05-07-2022, 02:32 PM
Has there been talk about clubs coming in for Doig or anyone else this window?

I've not really been following things but last year the fear was losing Nisbet, Doing or Porto. Is it basically the same chat regurgitated or something new?

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 02:37 PM
JDH was one of the best defensively....very low on stats for forward passes that create chances.

If you look at the stats of JDH, Newell, Doig etc. on the likely metrics that they were judged on by their manager (Maloney) in reality as compared to the sales guff he gave the fans about "attacking football" and the like then they probably did a very good job. Eleven men back at set pieces, being happy with things he'd seen when we'd barely had a shot on goal in a boring 0-0 draw and the like - Maloneyball was effectively all out defence without the benefit of a pacey counter attack and defensively they did a very good job.

It's why I don't think we need major surgery other than more squad depth and balance. I think a lot of players who were hung out to dry last season (JDH, Campbell, Newell etc) will end up doing a lot better this season once they're given a bit more freedom to get forward and take a risk or two.

bingo70
05-07-2022, 02:51 PM
Has anyone got any info on who the goalkeeping coach might be?

No info but I’m guessing David Preece.

Recently left Sunderland and was also at Barnsley or Bristol city around the same time as LJ

MWHIBBIES
05-07-2022, 02:59 PM
Yes, give him the armband, we have lacked a real leader for a while now.If he isn't a leader now, an armband will change nothing.


And offering him the captaincy might further help seal the deal.

Or would stripping our current captain, Paul Hanlon, a club legend of his well earned captaincy effect him and others negatively.

Being captain of Hibs should not be some sweetener to make someone sign a new deal IMO.

JimBHibees
05-07-2022, 03:05 PM
I’m sure I remember someone on here putting up an article that said Doig was in the top 20 U21 year olds in Europe (presumably defenders) last season stats wise. I know it’s the way of the modern world that players are becoming judged on stats more than what you see with your own eyes. Same with JDH & Newell being among the top midfielders for key stats. While all that might be true it was difficult to see much evidence of that from a wretched season where everyone struggled.

Apologies to go off on an old man’s rant, particularly as you weren’t talking about stats. Thought Doig was ok last season but a drop off from his debut season. Which is probably to be expected, hopefully he really kicks on again this season.

Personally thought he was pretty good last season and seemed one of the few who did well under Maloney.

bigwheel
05-07-2022, 03:07 PM
Personally thought he was pretty good last season and seemed one of the few who did well under Maloney.

He got much better as the season progressed . Actually thought he was one of our best players for the second half of the season - very athletic …

JimBHibees
05-07-2022, 03:10 PM
He got much better as the season progressed . Actually thought he was one of our best players for the second half of the season - very athletic …

Agree with that. There was a game against St Johnstone at home where I think he played left centre back where thought he was exceptional

Since452
05-07-2022, 03:11 PM
Very interesting that LJ wanted Porto miked up during the Hartlepool game. A very good tactic imo. Forced Porto into being more vocal, giving out instructions and organising. Thats the kind of thing that'll make him sign a new contract, knowing the manager can improve him. Hopefully he does. I've probably been one of his biggest critics on here but mainly because i rate him so highly.

theonlywayisup
05-07-2022, 03:13 PM
Truth is, I don't think many of us have actually seen enough of him to form an opinion - other than his performances for Hearts against Hibs, the odd highlight from Italy and his "quiet" debut for Scotland in a tough game against Ukraine.

Agree! I think this is typical football forum chat building up an opinion on a player based on very little appraisal or analysis and then making ridiculous statements to support it.

To be honest, I know very little about Hickey, so have zero opinion on whether he's worth the investment that has been made to date. I'd rather take on board the opinion of those who have done the detailed appraisal and analysis, especially those who are spending vast sums of money to procure his services. I hope for Hickey and for Scottish football that he succeeds in the game. He's already achieved more in the game than the vast majority of the stay-at-home Scottish footballers have or will.

blackpoolhibs
05-07-2022, 03:16 PM
Does giving a player the armband and making him captain have any bareing on a player when looking at his options?

bingo70
05-07-2022, 03:23 PM
Does giving a player the armband and making him captain have any bareing on a player when looking at his options?

IMO it probably would if the player in question is 7 or 8 years old.

When talking about guys who do this professionally and have the possibility of earning hundreds of thousands of pounds more by moving, I’m guessing that’s unlikely.

jacomo
05-07-2022, 03:25 PM
Nearly £19m for Hickey!

That’s a lot of money.

Ringothedog
05-07-2022, 03:29 PM
Does giving a player the armband and making him captain have any bareing on a player when looking at his options?

In my opinion…..no

andrew70
05-07-2022, 03:33 PM
Does giving a player the armband and making him captain have any bareing on a player when looking at his options?

100%. Prestigious. Especially being a supporter.

Away from Porteous it could equally be being used as leverage for a.n. other player who may be yet to come in.

Shouldn’t be undervalued in any case.

blackpoolhibs
05-07-2022, 03:37 PM
100%. Prestigious. Especially being a supporter.

Away from Porteous it could equally be being used as leverage for a.n. other player who may be yet to come in.

Shouldn’t be undervalued in any case.

Here you go Ryan, £6k a week and the captains armband, whats that Milwall, £15k a week did you say, see you later Mr Johnson.:wink:

MWHIBBIES
05-07-2022, 03:42 PM
100%. Prestigious. Especially being a supporter.

Away from Porteous it could equally be being used as leverage for a.n. other player who may be yet to come in.

Shouldn’t be undervalued in any case.

We have a captain. It is not being used for any leverage. Paul Hanlon is our captain.

allezsauzee
05-07-2022, 03:44 PM
Aaron Hickey was pretty close to being an ever present in the Serie A last season so has proven himself in a much higher level than Josh has. As far as English/Italian clubs are concerned Josh has still to prove himself at that level therefore its almost irrelevant whether or not he's a better player than Hickey, they are still taking it on faith that he has what it takes to hack it at that level and consequently the fee that they are willing to pay is much lower. Personally, i really rate Josh and don't want us to be in a rush to cash in our chips. I'd rather we kept him another season at least if he's happy here, his value is unlikely to lower this time next year given he's under contract until 2026. He should be a much more accomplished player with another season under his belt.

Crab apple
05-07-2022, 03:50 PM
If he isn't a leader now, an armband will change nothing.



Or would stripping our current captain, Paul Hanlon, a club legend of his well earned captaincy effect him and others negatively.

Being captain of Hibs should not be some sweetener to make someone sign a new deal IMO.

With Paul Hanlon likely to be injured for some time the manager will need to make a choice on captain. I think Ryan would welcome and thrive on the opportunity.

bingo70
05-07-2022, 03:52 PM
John Park has moved to Rangers in a scouting role.

MWHIBBIES
05-07-2022, 03:53 PM
With Paul Hanlon likely to be injured for some time the manager will need to make a choice on captain. I think Ryan would welcome and thrive on the opportunity.

He'll need to make a choice on vice captain. Who will replace Paul McGinn as vice captain, which he would regardless of Hanlon being injured or not.

andrew70
05-07-2022, 03:55 PM
We have a captain. It is not being used for any leverage. Paul Hanlon is our captain.

We’ll soon find out.

Crab apple
05-07-2022, 03:57 PM
Here you go Ryan, £6k a week and the captains armband, whats that Milwall, £15k a week did you say, see you later Mr Johnson.:wink:

No argument from me here BH if it's about cold hard cash. Cash wins almost every time. As others have said on this thread there doesn't appear to be much between what Ryan is being offered by us and what he might be able to get elsewhere. On that basis offering the captaincy to him as player and as a lifelong Hibs fan must be an added incentive to stay.

Crab apple
05-07-2022, 03:58 PM
He'll need to make a choice on vice captain. Who will replace Paul McGinn as vice captain, which he would regardless of Hanlon being injured or not.

Marshall is just in the door but I think he'd be a good shout.

Billy Whizz
05-07-2022, 04:00 PM
Marshall is just in the door but I think he'd be a good shout.

Lewis is vice captain. When Maloney came in, he gave it to Lewis, and seemingly didn’t tell McGinn

CapitalGreen
05-07-2022, 04:01 PM
Here you go Ryan, £6k a week and the captains armband, whats that Milwall, £15k a week did you say, see you later Mr Johnson.:wink:

Nice example, but nobody is offering him £15k per week and even if they wanted to they’d need to make a bid that the club found acceptable first or wait for him until next summer.

Giving him an increased wage, the captains armband and a minimum fee release clause could still see him go earn the big money next summer if a team (such as Millwall) wanted him.

blackpoolhibs
05-07-2022, 04:09 PM
No argument from me here BH if it's about cold hard cash. Cash wins almost every time. As others have said on this thread there doesn't appear to be much between what Ryan is being offered by us and what he might be able to get elsewhere. On that basis offering the captaincy to him as player and as a lifelong Hibs fan must be an added incentive to stay.

I hope he does sign on again, i see him as our best defender/player by a long shot, and he will get better.

I have my doubts we will be able to match the wages he could earn elsewhere, and its a decision the club and the player i suppose need to make now, or he does leave for nothing next year. :boo hoo:

JimBHibees
05-07-2022, 04:14 PM
Here you go Ryan, £6k a week and the captains armband, whats that Milwall, £15k a week did you say, see you later Mr Johnson.:wink:

Pretty much :greengrin

JimBHibees
05-07-2022, 04:16 PM
John Park has moved to Rangers in a scouting role.

Was he still at Celtic?

Brightside
05-07-2022, 04:16 PM
Does giving a player the armband and making him captain have any bareing on a player when looking at his options?

The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 04:27 PM
The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

Unless he thinks he can make a positive difference in that role. Bit like an employee agreeing to stay with a company if they get a promotion.

neil7908
05-07-2022, 04:29 PM
Jamie Murphy joins Drey Wright at St Johnstone.

Unseen work
05-07-2022, 04:31 PM
The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

Bit ridiculous if true imo.

blackpoolhibs
05-07-2022, 04:35 PM
The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

I'd be very surprised at that, there will be other bits and pieces he will want too, money being the main one.

Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 04:36 PM
Does giving a player the armband and making him captain have any bareing on a player when looking at his options?

Maybe they could give him the armband and not make him captain! :hilarious

bingo70
05-07-2022, 04:36 PM
Was he still at Celtic?

Nah, he left Blackburn last week I think it was.

JimBHibees
05-07-2022, 04:37 PM
Nah, he left Blackburn last week I think it was.

Ok cheers

MagicSwirlingShip
05-07-2022, 04:59 PM
The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

Defo sounds like madness.

Spike Mandela
05-07-2022, 05:00 PM
Jamie Murphy joins Drey Wright at St Johnstone.

Early contenders for relegation.

Nicho87
05-07-2022, 05:08 PM
Early contenders for relegation.

Thanks for jinxing the relegated team to a nice three points on match day 1

😂

Jones28
05-07-2022, 05:09 PM
Jamie Murphy joins Drey Wright at St Johnstone.

The forward line to be feared this season.

Golden Bear
05-07-2022, 05:19 PM
The forward line to be feared this season.

I'm saying nowt as these things have a habit of coming back and biting us on the erchie.

SHODAN
05-07-2022, 05:27 PM
Early contenders for relegation.

St Johnstone made a winning start to the 2022-23 season at the expense of Hibernian, with two goals from ex-Hibees Drey Wright and Jamie Murphy.

S4uzee
05-07-2022, 05:28 PM
St Johnstone made a winning start to the 2022-23 season at the expense of Hibernian, with two goals from ex-Hibees Drey Wright and Jamie Murphy.

You forgot the two assists from Melker Hallberg

Dazzjw1875
05-07-2022, 05:33 PM
St Johnstone made a winning start to the 2022-23 season at the expense of Hibernian, with two goals from ex-Hibees Drey Wright and Jamie Murphy.

Well last I saw ICT were pumping then 5-1 in a friendly earlier

Springbank
05-07-2022, 05:35 PM
The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

By the way, I love this kind of mentality (if it's true)

That armband should mean the world

Glad to hear it does to Porto

ancient hibee
05-07-2022, 06:03 PM
Manager will switch around captaincy in early season.

andrew70
05-07-2022, 06:32 PM
Is Tom Carter off to Tranent?

neil7908
05-07-2022, 06:38 PM
St Johnstone made a winning start to the 2022-23 season at the expense of Hibernian, with two goals from ex-Hibees Drey Wright and Jamie Murphy.

Not to forget goal saving tackles from Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon

davhibby
05-07-2022, 07:12 PM
Early contenders for relegation.

They’ve been absolute stick ons for relegation from the full time whistle in the playoff. They were saved by Dundee sacking McPake last season and have lost Clark, Rooney and Hendry who were their only good players. Unless someone else has a stinker they’ll be as good as gone by the World Cup

bigwheel
05-07-2022, 07:14 PM
Not to forget goal saving tackles from Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon

They’ve also signed Adam Montgomery , striker, on loan , a young player we tried to persuade to sign for us this summer, but he chose to stay at Celtic ..another guaranteed to score ! :)

He was one who was told Doidge was leaving while we were trying to persuade him to sign …..

Callum_62
05-07-2022, 07:17 PM
They’ve also signed Adam Montgomery , striker, on loan , a young player we tried to persuade to sign for us this summer, but he chose to stay at Celtic ..another guaranteed to score ! :)

He was one who was told Doidge was leaving while we were trying to persuade him to sign …..He's a left back

So, Doig or Doidge?

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bigwheel
05-07-2022, 07:20 PM
He's a left back

So, Doig or Doidge?

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Apologies. Good catch - It was Adam Brooks we tried to sign ..a striker , got him mixed up with Montgomery [emoji106]

Doidge

Unseen work
05-07-2022, 07:30 PM
Apologies. Good catch - It was Adam Brooks we tried to sign ..a striker , got him mixed up with Montgomery [emoji106]

Doidge

We were trying to sign an 18 year old to sign as a replacement for Doidge?!

Concerning if true!

bigwheel
05-07-2022, 07:31 PM
We were trying to sign an 18 year old to sign as a replacement for Doidge?!

Concerning if true!

I’m sure it was just sales talk to him trying to show that he had a route to first team game time ….

Jones28
05-07-2022, 07:32 PM
I'm saying nowt as these things have a habit of coming back and biting us on the erchie.

It’s absolutely reeking of it eh?

Gmack7
05-07-2022, 08:14 PM
Aribo to Southampton for 10million, last year of his contract

xyz23jc
05-07-2022, 08:19 PM
Aribo to Southampton for 10million, last year of his contract

Pay off a wee bit o' the debt at least... dunno what's 10 mill frae quarter o' a billion? :greengrin

raeburnhibs
05-07-2022, 08:26 PM
Rangers linked with Ellis Sims

HoboHarry
05-07-2022, 08:27 PM
Aribo to Southampton for 10million, last year of his contract

Aye right, no club is giving sevco that amount for a player in the last year of his contract.

Hibernian Verse
05-07-2022, 08:38 PM
Rangers linked with Ellis Sims

Hun at my work said he was likely going to Rangers a few weeks ago. I’d prefer they got him rather than Hearts.

Brooster
05-07-2022, 08:40 PM
Is Tom Carter off to Tranent?

He played for Tranent tonight in a friendly against Hamilton Accies

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 08:41 PM
Rangers linked with Ellis Sims

Would be good if Hertz missed out on Simms and Shankland.

04Sauzee
05-07-2022, 08:43 PM
He played for Tranent tonight in a friendly against Hamilton Accies

Melkersen was spotted at the game and Hamilton fans are concierge he's now going on loan to Hamilton 😁

Hibernian Verse
05-07-2022, 08:46 PM
Would be good if Hertz missed out on Simms and Shankland.

Would be good if they just had a ****ter of a season, lost every European game and finished in the bottom 6.

AlbertK86
05-07-2022, 08:49 PM
He was brilliant against us at Easter Road. Sure he scored. On the flip side i thought he was poor in a game at Tynecastle. Very good player for his age though.

Deflection


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MWHIBBIES
05-07-2022, 08:49 PM
Aye right, no club is giving sevco that amount for a player in the last year of his contract.

Looks like they are. Good player tbh, and a good move for him

ElginHibbie
05-07-2022, 08:59 PM
Would be good if they just lost every game and finished bottom.

Removed some words

LancsHibs
05-07-2022, 09:00 PM
Would be good if Hertz missed out on Simms and Shankland.

Simms will not be going back to Tinpot, if the Rangers rumour isn’t true he is Championship bound, Millwall, Middlesburgh & Blackpool all interested

Wilson
05-07-2022, 09:02 PM
Melkersen was spotted at the game and Hamilton fans are concierge he's now going on loan to Hamilton 😁

Blame it on the bellboy

HoboHarry
05-07-2022, 09:03 PM
Looks like they are. Good player tbh, and a good move for him

I'll believe it when I see it in the yearly accounts. It might be that amount with add ons like winning the CL lol......

04Sauzee
05-07-2022, 09:06 PM
Blame it on the bellboy

No idea how convinced became concierge 👀

Stuart93
05-07-2022, 11:12 PM
Simms will not be going back to Tinpot, if the Rangers rumour isn’t true he is Championship bound, Millwall, Middlesburgh & Blackpool all interested

Aye they’re now pretending not to be bothered about simms going back.

MWHIBBIES
06-07-2022, 04:07 AM
I'll believe it when I see it in the yearly accounts. It might be that amount with add ons like winning the CL lol......

This isn't rangers supporting journalists saying this. It's not some spin from the club.

BT58
06-07-2022, 04:29 AM
Confirmed on Sky. ( Aribo)
B

Since90+2
06-07-2022, 05:03 AM
Aribo is quality, £10 million for him really isn't that much even in the last year of his contract.

He consistently performed at an incredibly high standard in the Europa League, Southampton won't mind paying £10 mill at all.

MWHIBBIES
06-07-2022, 05:15 AM
Aribo is quality, £10 million for him really isn't that much even in the last year of his contract.

He consistently performed at an incredibly high standard in the Europa League, Southampton won't mind paying £10 mill at all.

Yep. If Rangers do hold out for the release clause which they certainly have time to do, that's 10 million up front

flash
06-07-2022, 05:36 AM
Aribo is quality, £10 million for him really isn't that much even in the last year of his contract.

He consistently performed at an incredibly high standard in the Europa League, Southampton won't mind paying £10 mill at all.

People up here need to understand that English clubs have an almost bottomless pit of money to spend.

Winston Ingram
06-07-2022, 05:42 AM
Would be good if Hertz missed out on Simms and Shankland.

I’d be gutted if they missed out on Shankland. They’d be paying £500k and he’s pish.

Since452
06-07-2022, 06:32 AM
I’d be gutted if they missed out on Shankland. They’d be paying £500k and he’s pish.

Same. I'd be delighted they signed Shankland especially for that fee. Simms on the other hand is very good.

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 06:33 AM
Would take Shankland in a heartbeat

Truth is we probably cannot afford him

The guy is far from pish scoring almost 1:2 career goals from 324 appearances including 28:33 for United in 2019/2020

The guy is quality still only 26 and I have no doubt he would be a success at Hibs

The Rangers not interested in Simms

Hibernian Verse
06-07-2022, 06:49 AM
Would take Shankland in a heartbeat

Truth is we probably cannot afford him

The guy is far from pish scoring almost 1:2 career goals from 349 appearances including 28:33 for United in 2019/2020

The guy is quality and I have no doubt he would be a success at Hibs

The Rangers not interested in Simms

We've already got Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen and Bojang. Even if we could afford him we can't have 5 strikers for one position.

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 06:50 AM
We've already got Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen and Bojang. Even if we could afford him we can't have 5 strikers for one position.

My argument is that he is far from pish

Happy for Hearts to spend 500k on him 😀

Bobby's Cinema
06-07-2022, 06:51 AM
Would take Shankland in a heartbeat

Truth is we probably cannot afford him

The guy is far from pish scoring almost 1:2 career goals from 349 appearances including 28:33 for United in 2019/2020

The guy is quality and I have no doubt he would be a success at Hibs

The Rangers not interested in Simms
Agreed. Unless something goes badly wrong I'd expect Shankland to have a hit rate of 1 in 3 and be 10+ goals in a season. You are getting track record and a bit of certainty with a signing like that.

Our top scorers last season were Boyle (11), Nisbet (6), Scott (4) and at the moment we are relying on Nisbet coming back firing/ Doidge recapturing some form/ Youan/Melkerson hitting the ground running. Still far from certain what we are getting.

SMAXXA
06-07-2022, 06:57 AM
We've already got Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen and Bojang. Even if we could afford him we can't have 5 strikers for one position.

And doidge

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 06:57 AM
Agreed. Unless something goes badly wrong I'd expect Shankland to have a hit rate of 1 in 3 and be 10+ goals in a season. You are getting track record and a bit of certainty with a signing like that.

Our top scorers last season were Boyle (11), Nisbet (6), Scott (4) and at the moment we are relying on Nisbet coming back firing/ Doidge recapturing some form/ Youan/Melkerson hitting the ground running. Still far from certain what we are getting.

Shankland has the experience and proven track record

We would just need a ‘Martin Boyle’ to set up the chances for him

The Spaceman
06-07-2022, 07:07 AM
Aribo is quality, £10 million for him really isn't that much even in the last year of his contract.

He consistently performed at an incredibly high standard in the Europa League, Southampton won't mind paying £10 mill at all.

£10m is an absolute steal for Aribo. He’s quality and I’ve always said he’d do well in the EPL.

04Sauzee
06-07-2022, 07:10 AM
£10m is an absolute steal for Aribo. He’s quality and I’ve always said he’d do well in the EPL.

Fabrizio Romano reporting that it's £6m + add ons. As you say he's quality.

Gordy M
06-07-2022, 07:30 AM
Agreed. Unless something goes badly wrong I'd expect Shankland to have a hit rate of 1 in 3 and be 10+ goals in a season. You are getting track record and a bit of certainty with a signing like that.

Our top scorers last season were Boyle (11), Nisbet (6), Scott (4) and at the moment we are relying on Nisbet coming back firing/ Doidge recapturing some form/ Youan/Melkerson hitting the ground running. Still far from certain what we are getting.

Just for balance, he has scored 17 goals in his last 68 games, and his last season in the Scot Prm he scored 8 goals in 32 games.

NC1875
06-07-2022, 07:30 AM
Shankland has the experience and proven track record

We would just need a ‘Martin Boyle’ to set up the chances for him

What was his record on his 1 season in the premiership ? Gordy just answered that above. Not exactly great!

His stats are massively skewed in his favour as most of his goals are championship level.

Don’t think he’s a bad player but nowhere near as good as some think.

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 07:34 AM
What was his record on his 1 season in the premiership. His stats are massively skewed in his favour as most of his goals are championship level.

Don’t think he’s a bad player but nowhere near as good as some think.

8 goals

Obvious to a blind man running for a bus that his overall play assists and quality had improved making it into the Scotland setup

Agree but nowhere near the pish that Winston suggests

Would take him as a Marquee signing if it was doable

https://youtu.be/V9yrQcVvYXg

bigwheel
06-07-2022, 07:34 AM
What was his record on his 1 season in the premiership ? Gordy just answered that above. Not exactly great!

His stats are massively skewed in his favour as most of his goals are championship level.

Don’t think he’s a bad player but nowhere near as good as some think.

I think he will score a decent amount with the right service - think he’d be a quality addition for Hearts and us for that matter.

Paulie Walnuts
06-07-2022, 07:36 AM
8 goals

Obvious to a blind man running for a bus that his overall play assists and quality had improved making it into the Scotland setup

Agree but nowhere near the pish that Winston suggests

Would take him as a Marquee signing if it was doable

Agree.

Shankland in a team finishing top four would score more than his fair share.

KeithTheHibby
06-07-2022, 07:47 AM
Shankland has the experience and proven track record

We would just need a ‘Martin Boyle’ to set up the chances for him

Shankland has barely scored a goal in the last couple of years. Would be more concerned if they got Simms, he’s qualify for such a young player. If the currant buns sell Aribo I can see him at Ibrox.

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 07:52 AM
Shankland has barely scored a goal in the last couple of years. Would be more concerned if they got Simms, he’s qualify for such a young player. If the currant buns sell Aribo I can see him at Ibrox.

The Huns not interested in Simms

BBC Sport

Liked him but disappointed in the Scottish Cup Final bright start hit the post then disappeared

Jury still out imho

ian cruise
06-07-2022, 08:00 AM
The chat is that he will sign the current offer if he gets the armband. Which sounds like madness but there has been plenty chat about it. Certainly a player saying he will stay if he's made captain doesn't sound much like captain material to me.

Maybe it's not "if you stay you'll be captain" but more,"We view you as the captain but if you're going to leave we'll look daft announcing it then needing to replace you in a few weeks time so let us know what's happening?"

Similar but slightly different, one is the captaincy being used as a bargaining chip, the other is that Ryan is their natural choice but we're protecting ourselves from the usual suspects and their hibsd it type" banter".

oneone73
06-07-2022, 08:00 AM
The Huns not interested in Simms



Liked him but disappointed in the Scottish Cup Final bright start hit the post then disappeared


I wasn't disappointed 😁

Hibernian Verse
06-07-2022, 08:07 AM
Is Hanlon ok with losing the captaincy? Or will he be "Club Captain" like Gray was?

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 08:11 AM
I wasn't disappointed 😁

👍

HibbyAndy
06-07-2022, 08:14 AM
I wasn't disappointed 😁

Me neither , I love how they have bottled 3 Scottish cup finals in 4 years

degenerated
06-07-2022, 09:22 AM
8 goals

Obvious to a blind man running for a bus that his overall play assists and quality had improved making it into the Scotland setup

Agree but nowhere near the pish that Winston suggests

Would take him as a Marquee signing if it was doable

https://youtu.be/V9yrQcVvYXgGoing on his scoring record in the top league it would be more of a four man tent than marquee. He's no better than what we have in doidge and nisbet and we've no idea how good or otherwise our new guys are.

04Sauzee
06-07-2022, 09:24 AM
To take the thread back to transfers as opposed to discussions about players who have been at the club since their teens. Any ideas of who the new players rumoured to be close to signing are? Looking at who would be realistic, available and fitting the profile of our recent signings, this is who I’ve came up with.

Centre Back is close to done according to those who spoke with LJ in Portugal.

Cameron Humphreys - 23yo 6ft 2, ex-Man City defender who has just become a free agent at Belgian club Zulte Waregem. Was linked with Rangers and a host of Championship clubs towards the end of last season but nothing seems to have happened there.

Jacob Bedeau - 22yo, 6ft, Burnley defender. His contract expires next year but he has yet to play for them. 61 appearances over the last 2 seasons for Scunthorpe and Morecambe - Morecambe fans are very keen to get him back.

Attack minded midfielder - as rumoured by 21smay. I got the impression from them that this signing might a well known name or be seen as a bit of a coup if it happened so took that into account.

- Romaine Sawyers
- Luke Freeman - played with LJ during his first season managing Bristol City
- Alen Halilovic
- Jack Wilshere

All of the above are free agents.

Unlikely we’ll sign any of the above in reality but hopefully moves the chat away from the tedium of talking about Josh Campbell and back to transfers.
Sawyers has just signed for Cardiff so we will have to work on other on the list 😁

We have heard on here that we were close to signing a striker from England which hasn't materialised. A CB was tied up so would have expected an announcement. Also rumours of an attacking midfielder.

Was hoping for another body in before the Clyde game.

Since452
06-07-2022, 09:30 AM
Not sure Shankland would be starting ahead of Youan or Nisbet imo.

CapitalGreen
06-07-2022, 09:33 AM
Sawyers has just signed for Cardiff so we will have to work on other on the list 😁

We have heard on here that we were close to signing a striker from England which hasn't materialised. A CB was tied up so would have expected an announcement. Also rumours of an attacking midfielder.

Was hoping for another body in before the Clyde game.

The list has been decimated.

Sawyers has signed for Cardiff
Freeman has signed for Luton
Humphreys has signed for Rotherham
Halivovic has signed for Rijeka
Wilshere joining Arsenal as a coach

Just leaving Jacob Bedeau from my scouting list 😂

flash
06-07-2022, 09:34 AM
The list has been decimated.

Sawyers has signed for Cardiff
Freeman has signed for Luton
Humphreys has signed for Rotherham
Halivovic has signed for Rijeka
Wilshere joining Arsenal as a coach

Just leaving Jacob Bedeau from my scouting list 😂

Just proves it was a good list.

04Sauzee
06-07-2022, 09:40 AM
The list has been decimated.

Sawyers has signed for Cardiff
Freeman has signed for Luton
Humphreys has signed for Rotherham
Halivovic has signed for Rijeka
Wilshere joining Arsenal as a coach

Just leaving Jacob Bedeau from my scouting list 😂
🤣 Need list 1.1

Brightside
06-07-2022, 10:01 AM
Maybe it's not "if you stay you'll be captain" but more,"We view you as the captain but if you're going to leave we'll look daft announcing it then needing to replace you in a few weeks time so let us know what's happening?"

Similar but slightly different, one is the captaincy being used as a bargaining chip, the other is that Ryan is their natural choice but we're protecting ourselves from the usual suspects and their hibsd it type" banter".

The chat was that he was offered a contract similar to Boyles and he turned it down as it didnt include the captaincy. I'm hoping thats totally made up. Someone should be made captain based on the respect they command from the squad and the management team. It should never be a bargaining tool for either side.

I think we will see less of Hanlon this year as injuries start to catch up on him and the next captain will be someone as reliable and respected as him within the football club.

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 10:20 AM
Not sure Shankland would be starting ahead of Youan or Nisbet imo.

Not seen Youan

Nisbet out till Christmas

Shankland won’t be coming in any case

Hibernian Verse
06-07-2022, 10:28 AM
Not seen Youan

Nisbet out till Christmas

Shankland won’t be coming in any case

You'll be very impressed IMO.

Can't wait for Saturday.

BILLYHIBS
06-07-2022, 10:34 AM
You'll be very impressed IMO.

Can't wait for Saturday.

Hope so

Need someone to hit the ground running

🙏

Aldo
06-07-2022, 10:39 AM
#announcesquirrel


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GGTTH07
06-07-2022, 11:20 AM
Defender from L1 England incoming. Big tall lad, mid 20s.

04Sauzee
06-07-2022, 11:23 AM
Defender from L1 England incoming. Big tall lad, mid 20s.

Guessing that's a permanent deal? Not a loan from a mid 20s player from league 1?

bingo70
06-07-2022, 11:23 AM
Defender from L1 England incoming. Big tall lad, mid 20s.

Today?

Is he out of contract or we buying him?

bingo70
06-07-2022, 11:26 AM
Somebody said we were getting a Finnish defender (please no Anti Niemmi jokes). If so then Aapo Halme would fit the bill... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aapo_Halme

Mid 20's, big tall lad and coming from English League 1.

SHODAN
06-07-2022, 11:28 AM
Somebody said we were getting a Finnish defender (please no Anti Niemmi jokes). If so then Aapo Halme would fit the bill... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aapo_Halme

Mid 20's, big tall lad and coming from English League 1.

Don't worry, he's 24 so we can't do the joke.

Hibby Kay-Yay
06-07-2022, 11:28 AM
Is Hanlon ok with losing the captaincy? Or will he be "Club Captain" like Gray was?

I think we should have club captains on the pitch and club ambassadors in the community.

flash
06-07-2022, 11:31 AM
Somebody said we were getting a Finnish defender (please no Anti Niemmi jokes). If so then Aapo Halme would fit the bill... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aapo_Halme

Mid 20's, big tall lad and coming from English League 1.
Would be my moment in the sun as I suggested him on PM board last week. (So it won't be him.)

GGTTH07
06-07-2022, 11:35 AM
Would be my moment in the sun as I suggested him on PM board last week. (So it won't be him.)

Sure he was meant to be going on trial, dunno if that happened though

Greenworld
06-07-2022, 11:50 AM
Is Hanlon ok with losing the captaincy? Or will he be "Club Captain" like Gray was?Hanlon wants what's best for hibs he would be fine with whoever is given the role

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Alfred E Newman
06-07-2022, 11:50 AM
Sure he was meant to be going on trial, dunno if that happened though

Maybe the case was dropped.:dunno: