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Stuart93
20-07-2022, 11:04 PM
Oft I’m looking forward to Wright, Murphy and Hallberg making us look amateur in our first game
Haymaker
20-07-2022, 11:04 PM
Oft I’m looking forward to Wright, Murphy and Hallberg making us look amateur in our first game
Sticking money on them all scoring
bingo70
20-07-2022, 11:06 PM
Thought that as well when I read it, blaming the fact there wasn’t a fourth official.. wtf?
He never blamed anything on there not being a 4th official?
It’s worthy of mentioning due to the amount of time wasting they did, which did continually break our momentum, we have to be better but he’s absolutely right about that.
I can’t believe there was only 4 minutes at the end. I find that incredible and I’m not surprised he mentioned it.
green day
20-07-2022, 11:08 PM
Oft I’m looking forward to Wright, Murphy and Hallberg making us look amateur in our first game
Wright and Murphy are crap.
Hallberg we could have kept.
Stuart93
20-07-2022, 11:09 PM
Wright and Murphy are crap.
Hallberg we could have kept.
Our former players always seem to have stoaters against us
phoenixfire
20-07-2022, 11:15 PM
Any news on midfield player in England ?
Paulie Walnuts
20-07-2022, 11:18 PM
Our former players always seem to have stoaters against us
I honestly wouldn’t put it past Joe Newell to allow himself to get utterly dominated by Drey Wright.
Smartie
20-07-2022, 11:34 PM
Wright and Murphy are crap.
Hallberg we could have kept.
Wright will be pish.
Murphy will be injured.
Hallberg will be motm, but only because Wotherspoon will be missing the game.
SlickShoes
20-07-2022, 11:40 PM
Don't worry, we've still got the usual desperate, last minute loans to join up.
Absolutely fed up to the back teeth of the utter neglect that has been shown towards the first team.
Kenneh, Melkersen, Tavares, Bojang, Miller - not a single one of them look anything like being capable of taking us to where we want to be.
As someone said earlier, it's a collection of nobodies, similar to the scattergun approach of Hearts prior to last season, one which we all fell about laughing at.
That's before we get started on Doidge, Newell, JDH, Campbell etc - all players that should have been replaced, but here we are, yet again, with them making up a core part of the side.
I can't believe that we've ended up in this mess once again!
You are clearly raging but most them mentioned have barely played enough minutes in real games to even judge. Bojang particularly has played less than 45 minutes.
Torto7
21-07-2022, 12:34 AM
You are clearly raging but most them mentioned have barely played enough minutes in real games to even judge. Bojang particularly has played less than 45 minutes.
:agree: Mental the takes on here almost as if some are just waiting to pounce on any shortcomings. We'll beat Norwich and play well as they wont sit it and counter so our pacier players will look better.
It's the pack the defence play off errors that we struggle with and you face that a lot in Scotland. If LJ can solve breaking those teams down then we'll have a successful season. They can start with some crossing practice as its been honking for too long. LB needs to be fixed. If he doesn't think Lewis can get up and down the pitch then Cadden is a no go on that side. The Croat needs to hit the ground as Truss would say. I've heard good things about Mcintyre but I don't watch that level so no idea if he could contribute.
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 12:42 AM
Anyone think we’ll see Stevenson starting defensive mid in first game of the Stevenson?
I actually think Campbell will start central too with Henderson on the left. Campbell isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but he at least presses high like LJ wants
Ridiculous to even think it but I can see him opting for Lewis over Kenneh, especially since wel have Cabraja.
The core of the team needs badly addressed and a right winger added.
Looking at hearts squad tonight it looks miles clear of ours.
phoenixfire
21-07-2022, 01:09 AM
Anyone think we’ll see Stevenson starting defensive mid in first game of the Stevenson?
I actually think Campbell will start central too with Henderson on the left. Campbell isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but he at least presses high like LJ wants
Ridiculous to even think it but I can see him opting for Lewis over Kenneh, especially since wel have Cabraja.
The core of the team needs badly addressed and a right winger added.
Looking at hearts squad tonight it looks miles clear of ours.
Midfields the problem for me ! Campbell isn't everyone's cup of tea cause he's not good enough like Newell ! Two midfielders badly needed and your right sadly hearts squad are miles ahead of ours:grr::grr:
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 05:17 AM
Didn’t someone post they expect to see a midfielder announced this week and predicted that it will be done by yesterday?
Any idea who it was, if it’s still happening and when it will be announced?
Chorley Hibee
21-07-2022, 05:57 AM
:agree: Mental the takes on here almost as if some are just waiting to pounce on any shortcomings. We'll beat Norwich and play well as they wont sit it and counter so our pacier players will look better.
It's the pack the defence play off errors that we struggle with and you face that a lot in Scotland. If LJ can solve breaking those teams down then we'll have a successful season. They can start with some crossing practice as its been honking for too long. LB needs to be fixed. If he doesn't think Lewis can get up and down the pitch then Cadden is a no go on that side. The Croat needs to hit the ground as Truss would say. I've heard good things about Mcintyre but I don't watch that level so no idea if he could contribute.
I'll tell you what is a mental take on things, the idea that, despite not being good enough to beat both Falkirk and Morton, the same bunch of unknowns, kids and failures from last season will be better against sides of a far higher calibre than them.
Head in the clouds stuff.
We need at least 2 midfielders, Kenneh is still young and will be inconsistent until he gains more experience, a left sided CH maybe 2 if Porteous leaves.
I'd personally get shot of Doidge, Newell, Campbell and Porteous if he doesn't commit, the 1st three are part of our problem when a previous manager handed out long deals when not justified.
degenerated
21-07-2022, 06:19 AM
Oft I’m looking forward to Wright, Murphy and Hallberg making us look amateur in our first gameI honestly don't doubt that for a second.
Nicho87
21-07-2022, 06:39 AM
Looking forward to the signing of 2-3 real coups from English teams
Standard roll out line
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 06:47 AM
I find it mental that Porteous would turn down 8k a week here if the rumours are true - which I doubt.
Would many other teams pay him that?
If he was and rejected it I wonder if it’s down to where he sees the club at the moment.
bigwheel
21-07-2022, 06:57 AM
Little decisions underline the concern for me - for example: did LJ really view Paul McGinn a less able deputy to Cadden than Miller at RB? That is a poor call .
Jamie McGrath, Jason Kerr , McCart. That’s who we were after last summer. Exactly the type of signings that could come in and perform in our league . Now we have a high percentage of raw talent , that are having the learn to be a first team player and learn our league . It’s definitely been a flaw in our recruitment this summer . We can’t keep changing managers though. LJ and his staff need to get their heads around this and find a way forward .
We used to complain. about being poor in big games …that seems a long time ago these days
theonlywayisup
21-07-2022, 07:03 AM
Little decisions underline the concern for me - for example: did LJ really view Paul McGinn a less able deputy to Cadden than Miller at RB? That is a poor call .
Jamie McGrath, Jason Kerr , McCart. That’s who we were after last summer. Exactly the type of signings that could come in and perform in our league . Now we have a high percentage of raw talent , that are having the learn to be a first team player and learn our league . It’s definitely been a flaw in our recruitment this summer . We can’t keep changing managers though. LJ and his staff need to get their heads around this and find a way forward .
We used to complain. about being poor in big games …that seems a long time ago these days
Fully agree bigwheel. Compare our team now to the team that start last season; we're considerably worse. We need to stop signing promising youngsters from Benfica B team and/or players who've never played a senior game and start signing experienced professionals.
B.H.F.C
21-07-2022, 07:25 AM
Little decisions underline the concern for me - for example: did LJ really view Paul McGinn a less able deputy to Cadden than Miller at RB? That is a poor call .
Jamie McGrath, Jason Kerr , McCart. That’s who we were after last summer. Exactly the type of signings that could come in and perform in our league . Now we have a high percentage of raw talent , that are having the learn to be a first team player and learn our league . It’s definitely been a flaw in our recruitment this summer . We can’t keep changing managers though. LJ and his staff need to get their heads around this and find a way forward .
We used to complain. about being poor in big games …that seems a long time ago these days
McGinn is a good example of where we’ve went wrong this summer IMO. Not that I thought McGinn himself was brilliant by the way.
However, we’ve started addressing things that didn’t really need addressed. Cadden with McGinn as back up would have been absolutely fine. There wasn’t any urgent need to do anything with that position. Instead, we’ve put efforts in to that and not addressed the key positions that did need dealt with.
It all seems completely scattergun and I don’t see any real plan in how we fit all these players together. We’d have been far better served signing half the number of players we have, but ones who were first team ready players who would go in and improve us right away. I thought we were off to a great start when we got Marshall, a clear upgrade, but then we’ve just reverted to this crazy recruitment model we have.
bigwheel
21-07-2022, 07:32 AM
McGinn is a good example of where we’ve went wrong this summer IMO. Not that I thought McGinn himself was brilliant by the way.
However, we’ve started addressing things that didn’t really need addressed. Cadden with McGinn as back up would have been absolutely fine. There wasn’t any urgent need to do anything with that position. Instead, we’ve put efforts in to that and not addressed the key positions that did need dealt with.
It all seems completely scattergun and I don’t see any real plan in how we fit all these players together. We’d have been far better served signing half the number of players we have, but ones who were first team ready players who would go in and improve us right away. I thought we were off to a great start when we got Marshall, a clear upgrade, but then we’ve just reverted to this crazy recruitment model we have.
Yep, we can only assume that we are leaning heavily into a “moneyball” type approach to try to generate regular sales of emerging talent ….currently , the balance is not right - we need to compete in the league and cups first and foremost .
superfurryhibby
21-07-2022, 07:42 AM
You are clearly raging but most them mentioned have barely played enough minutes in real games to even judge. Bojang particularly has played less than 45 minutes.
It's called reasonably informed guesswork.
Most folk with some passing interest in the Scottish game could tell you that laddies with little or no first team experience/experience of our footballing culture, are going to struggle when asked to make the step up to play in the first team at Hibs.
What makes it harder is when there is a core group of experienced pros aren't good enough or are past their best. Doidge, JDH, Newell, Stevenson, Hanlon, possibly McGeady all fit in that group.
It's looking grim.
Marshall looks a cut above what we've had since Rocky left though.
SideBurns
21-07-2022, 07:43 AM
Yep, we can only assume that we are leaning heavily into a “moneyball” type approach to try to generate regular sales of emerging talent ….currently , the balance is not right - we need to compete in the league and cups first and foremost .
I remember times when emerging talent predominantly emerged from our own youth set up.
Scotty Leither
21-07-2022, 08:00 AM
Yep, we can only assume that we are leaning heavily into a “moneyball” type approach to try to generate regular sales of emerging talent ….currently , the balance is not right - we need to compete in the league and cups first and foremost .
Who’ll be “worth” SFA if they’re toiling in a poor team with no leadership on or off the park.
It’s a high risk strategy which if it doesn’t bear fruit will see the fans turn quickly, and nae amount of slick marketing and podcasts from our owner will fix.
SlickShoes
21-07-2022, 08:20 AM
It's called reasonably informed guesswork.
Most folk with some passing interest in the Scottish game could tell you that laddies with little or no first team experience/experience of our footballing culture, are going to struggle when asked to make the step up to play in the first team at Hibs.
What makes it harder is when there is a core group of experienced pros aren't good enough or are past their best. Doidge, JDH, Newell, Stevenson, Hanlon, possibly McGeady all fit in that group.
It's looking grim.
Marshall looks a cut above what we've had since Rocky left though.
If you are watching our defence and think that we are NOT missing Hanlon then you are off your head. Look at Porto trying to lead the defence, it's chaos. JDH is 23, he is not a seasoned pro. Stevenson would have been a huge asset at left back last night.
You cannot judge Bojang on 40 minutes and Jair on 45 minutes, we also have players to come in who have plenty first team experience but we must await work permits.
Bojang in 40 minutes has looked more useful than Doidge has for about a year, minus the Clyde game.
thebausburst
21-07-2022, 08:24 AM
Recruitment needs to get back to quality over quantity, stop rooting around the bargain buckets looking for a ‘hidden gem’ and sign someone who is proven SPL quality!!
xqnq1875
21-07-2022, 08:28 AM
I don’t want to see any more young players signed for the remainder of this window, we need experienced players who are ready to go in to the team now, still clearly haven’t learned our lesson from last season, “you don’t win anything with kids”
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SlickShoes
21-07-2022, 08:29 AM
Recruitment needs to get back to quality over quantity, stop rooting around the bargain buckets looking for a ‘hidden gem’ and sign someone who is proven SPL quality!!
Yes more Drey Wright, Liam Craig, Jamie Murphy please!
McGruber
21-07-2022, 08:36 AM
Yes more Drey Wright, Liam Craig, Jamie Murphy please!
No, more John McGinn, Scott Allan, Darren McGregor please
WestStandWillie
21-07-2022, 08:45 AM
Should never have let Paul McGinn go
MagicSwirlingShip
21-07-2022, 08:48 AM
Should never have let Paul McGinn go
His form wasn’t exactly great
Hibiza
21-07-2022, 08:48 AM
Recruitment needs to get back to quality over quantity, stop rooting around the bargain buckets looking for a ‘hidden gem’ and sign someone who is proven SPL quality!!
:top marks
One Day Soon
21-07-2022, 08:49 AM
We'll have to agree to differ on this. In any normal cluster**** summer for us I would perhaps agree that signings would and should come in throughout the window. That would be because I might normally have the view that our squad and first team don't require major reconstructive surgery.
I think at this point and particularly after last season it is woefully clear that we need substantial renovation which suggests to me that we need many of our signings in early. If that means pushing the boat out to land those players well that is simply the price you pay for not doing so in previous transfer windows and therefore finding yourself weakened by earlier misjudgements. There is an alternative of course which is to carry on as before, a mixture of signing prospects you hope might make good and waiting to see if you can pick up others later in the window and presumably when they have fewer options. That has not served us well to date and is still less likely to do so when we are already weaker.
I think we are broadly agreeing on my second paragraph. I am saying that I simply do not believe RG thinks business as usual is fine and I would be astonished if he thinks there is the space for a long term approach to getting us from where we finished last season to where we should be.
At the moment I think I was more or less right about this. Apart from the last sentence. I have no idea what Rod was and is now thinking. If this club was a car I'd be looking to buy it a missing steering wheel.
I don't care who we have and have not signed so far, losing to Falkirk and drawing at home with Morton is beyond gash. We now have one chance of winning something this season and that is the Scottish Cup and right now we are nowhere near good enough to do that.
We should be challenging to be the third best club in Scotland, spending what money we have on trying to sign the players who can help us do that. Instead it feels like we are a giant football petri dish looking to find and invest in what we pray will be valuable saleable assets while hoping we somehow improve as a competitive side.
If we start badly against St Johnstone and Hearts Johnson is done. Except that Gordon will feel obligated to give him a long run since he has so much leadership capital invested in his decision to appoint Johnson rather than JDT after screwing up over Maloney.
cameronw-hfc
21-07-2022, 08:51 AM
I'd be happy with a loan signing at CM with Magennis back later this year, but we need another flexible forward, someone that can play across the front three, someone at CM and a CB.
I'd be happy with Kenneh and Lewis as #6 options as players often move further inside as they age, and Lewis seemed to step up big time in midfield last season, but I honestly don't feel like we're miles off. I think there's a making of a decent team there, we're just short a few key areas.
Northernhibee
21-07-2022, 08:52 AM
His form wasn’t exactly great
It wasn’t bad either and he’s the sort of 7/10 every week player that we need and that can help cover for younger players and their natural inconsistency and need for guidance.
Onceinawhile
21-07-2022, 08:53 AM
No, more John McGinn, Scott Allan, Darren McGregor please
We signed Darren mcgregor from a championship team.
Scott Allan had 8 premier league appearances to his name when we signed him.
Heisenberg
21-07-2022, 08:55 AM
Should never have let Paul McGinn go
He was very poor last season to be fair.
WhileTheChief..
21-07-2022, 08:58 AM
Recruitment needs to get back to quality over quantity, stop rooting around the bargain buckets looking for a ‘hidden gem’ and sign someone who is proven SPL quality!!
We're being asked to believe that we are picking up gems from these clubs.
Somehow, we're a step ahead of other cubs in unearthing them!
It's crazy when you think about it. Out of all the teams in Portugal, for example, none of them could entice a 'promising youngeste' to sign. Or Spain for that matter.
I'd imagine that a young player in Portugal would look to move to Spain in a similar way that our guys want to move down south.
Instead, the young lad opts to move to a mid table club in Scotland to further his career? Why? It doesn't add up.
One Day Soon
21-07-2022, 08:58 AM
We signed Darren mcgregor from a championship team.
Scott Allan had 8 premier league appearances to his name when we signed him.
IDGAF where we sign players from as long as they are good enough, fit enough, injury free enough and work permitted enough. Our recruitment doesn't seem to reflect that though. Someone or some people aren't good enough at their jobs. Or the recruitment they are doing is not primarily for the purpose of putting a consistently winning team on the park...
BSEJVT
21-07-2022, 09:12 AM
I'd be happy with a loan signing at CM with Magennis back later this year, but we need another flexible forward, someone that can play across the front three, someone at CM and a CB.
I'd be happy with Kenneh and Lewis as #6 options as players often move further inside as they age, and Lewis seemed to step up big time in midfield last season, but I honestly don't feel like we're miles off. I think there's a making of a decent team there, we're just short a few key areas.
I think the idea of a fit Magennis who will play a run of games is becoming more fanciful by the minute.
He is either the unluckiest injury hit player we have ever had or is someone who will never be fit in his own mind even when he is.
A lot of the remaining optimism on Hibs is that he will rise like a phoenix from the ashes and transform the at best mediocrity that surrounds him into the new Brazil.
That seems to me like a huge ask and is based upon a few decent games at the start of last season when the entire team were flying.
What he will be asked to do this time is raise an entire **** show from the dead and even Ronaldo didnt manage that.
Paulie Walnuts
21-07-2022, 09:14 AM
I think the idea of a fit Magennis who will play a run of games is becoming more fanciful by the minute.
He is either the unluckiest injury hit player we have ever had or is someone who will never be fit in his own mind even when he is.
A lot of the remaining optimism on Hibs is that he will rise like a phoenix from the ashes and transform the at best mediocrity that surrounds him into the new Brazil.
That seems to me like a huge ask and is based upon a few decent games at the start of last season when the entire team were flying.
What he will be asked to do this time is raise an entire **** show from the dead and even Ronaldo didnt manage that.
Absolutely.
Magennis needs to be forgotten about. He might eventually get fit (I’m honestly not even sure this will happen) but he’ll just end up injured again after a few games or he’ll be like his first season and he’ll be crap.
If he comes back, is class and stays fit then huge bonus for us. But for now, he can’t come into the conversation when considering our midfield imo.
MagicSwirlingShip
21-07-2022, 09:15 AM
It wasn’t bad either and he’s the sort of 7/10 every week player that we need and that can help cover for younger players and their natural inconsistency and need for guidance.
He was really not great last season at all. Closer to a 5 most games which we unlike him as he had become one of our most consistent performers. The amount of times he let his man get a cross in which led to a goal against. Loads.
B.H.F.C
21-07-2022, 09:16 AM
I think the idea of a fit Magennis who will play a run of games is becoming more fanciful by the minute.
He is either the unluckiest injury hit player we have ever had or is someone who will never be fit in his own mind even when he is.
A lot of the remaining optimism on Hibs is that he will rise like a phoenix from the ashes and transform the at best mediocrity that surrounds him into the new Brazil.
That seems to me like a huge ask and is based upon a few decent games at the start of last season when the entire team were flying.
What he will be asked to do this time is raise an entire **** show from the dead and even Ronaldo didnt manage that.
It’s been clear for ages that we can’t just wait on Magennis, but that’s what we find ourselves doing again. Then, if he does actually get back, we’ll have a period of waiting for him to get up to speed with the length of time he’s been out.
Another fail for the recruitment lot and at the cost of one competition before we’re even out of July.
Hiber-nation
21-07-2022, 09:18 AM
He was very poor last season to be fair.
McGinn was one of our most consistent players and to me it's astonishing he was found to be surplus to requirements. Maybe Johnson's ditching of the 3 at the back was a factor but McGinn is a better RB than Cadden in a 4.
loanheadhibby
21-07-2022, 09:22 AM
Absolutely.
Magennis needs to be forgotten about. He might eventually get fit (I’m honestly not even sure this will happen) but he’ll just end up injured again after a few games or he’ll be like his first season and he’ll be crap.
If he comes back, is class and stays fit then huge bonus for us. But for now, he can’t come into the conversation when considering our midfield imo.
Totally agree. I hope he comes back and has a great season. However, we cannot hang our hat on Magennis unfortunately. We need someone in there with quality who will play 30ish games a season.
Hibbyradge
21-07-2022, 09:26 AM
Guarantee there’s no interest from us. This is just Aberdeen leaking that we’re interested in the same ***** player they are, so they can claim it’s a coup against us again.
Is that what clubs do these days?
Claim imaginary coups?
supermcginn
21-07-2022, 09:39 AM
It wasn’t bad either and he’s the sort of 7/10 every week player that we need and that can help cover for younger players and their natural inconsistency and need for guidance.
He was awful last season, his performance and red card at Livingston basically put the final nail in Ross' coffin and then in the semi final his terrible piece of play sold the first goal.
JohnM1875
21-07-2022, 09:57 AM
Really hope there's a good signing announced today to pick things up a bit. Been a really honking week or so since the Falkirk result. A class midfielder would be my preference!
McGruber
21-07-2022, 09:59 AM
Recruitment needs to get back to quality over quantity, stop rooting around the bargain buckets looking for a ‘hidden gem’ and sign someone who is proven SPL quality!!
Absolutely this. Get this memo to the board.
Jason Kerr getting a game these days, Graeme Shinnie, Jamie McGrath
neil7908
21-07-2022, 10:01 AM
Its been very, very quiet on the signing front recently. The chat was BK or someone was telling fans in Portugal that signings were imminent.
I'm not for a second suggesting he was having us on, and fully appreciate that stuff falls through all the time.
But that's the danger of being too open with fans. We will always get excited at news like that, and if nothing happens it will lead to criticism.
GordonHFC
21-07-2022, 10:03 AM
Desperately need another LCD in urgently as playing Porto on the left to accommodate Rocky is not working.
Hibbyradge
21-07-2022, 10:09 AM
Desperately need another LCD in urgently as playing Porto on the left to accommodate Rocky is not working.
In what way is it not working? :dunno:
We lost a goal to an unfortunate penalty in about Morton's only venture into our box.
Rocky looked good last night again.
xqnq1875
21-07-2022, 10:13 AM
In what way is it not working? :dunno:
We lost a goal to an unfortunate penalty in about Morton's only venture into our box.
Rocky looked good last night again.
Agree with this, Rocky is one of the last players that should be getting complained about at the moment he’s been good so far but he’s just the scapegoat at the moment going off some fans moaning about him when he’s played decent
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G15 Hibs
21-07-2022, 10:13 AM
In what way is it not working? :dunno:
We lost a goal to an unfortunate penalty in about Morton's only venture into our box.
Rocky looked good last night again.
One drawback is that one of Porteous' strengths is distribution. Playing him at LCB stifles that somewhat.
Paulie Walnuts
21-07-2022, 10:14 AM
In what way is it not working? :dunno:
We lost a goal to an unfortunate penalty in about Morton's only venture into our box.
Rocky looked good last night again.
It’s not working for Porteous. He’s been really poor this pre season.
Rocky has been decent though.
SickBoy32
21-07-2022, 10:15 AM
In what way is it not working? :dunno:
We lost a goal to an unfortunate penalty in about Morton's only venture into our box.
Rocky looked good last night again.
Possibly a bit of a contradiction there - not sure a centre half can look good (again?!), when as you say the opposition barely crossed the half way line?
He did however manage to put a pretty simple header (from a great McGeady cross 1st half) over the bar when the goal was empty.
Hanlon and Porto our starting centre halves for when we play the big boys, no question IMO.
Hibbyradge
21-07-2022, 10:20 AM
Possibly a bit of a contradiction there - not sure a centre half can look good (again?!), when as you say the opposition barely crossed the half way line?
He did however manage to put a pretty simple header (from a great McGeady cross 1st half) over the bar when the goal was empty.
Hanlon and Porto our starting centre halves for when we play the big boys, no question IMO.
Eh?
Of course he can look good again. He was one of the main reasons Morton didn't get a sniff apart from the penalty. He dealt with everything he had to with composure.
The chance to which you refer was taken off his head by the keeper's finger tips. Watch it again.
Whether or not Porteous and Hanlon are our number one pairing is irrelevant. Rocky and Porto did perfectly well last night which is contrary to what Gordon said about them.
Stuart93
21-07-2022, 10:21 AM
Possibly a bit of a contradiction there - not sure a centre half can look good (again?!), when as you say the opposition barely crossed the half way line?
He did however manage to put a pretty simple header (from a great McGeady cross 1st half) over the bar when the goal was empty.
Hanlon and Porto our starting centre halves for when we play the big boys, no question IMO.
Rockys been our best player/most consistent player over pre season. He’s been a lot better than Porteous as well.
Rocky doesn’t deserve to get dropped.
JohnM1875
21-07-2022, 10:24 AM
Its been very, very quiet on the signing front recently. The chat was BK or someone was telling fans in Portugal that signings were imminent.
I'm not for a second suggesting he was having us on, and fully appreciate that stuff falls through all the time.
But that's the danger of being too open with fans. We will always get excited at news like that, and if nothing happens it will lead to criticism.
I'm genuinely of the opinion now that BK talks complete and utter ***** when talking to fans.
SlickShoes
21-07-2022, 10:28 AM
Its been very, very quiet on the signing front recently. The chat was BK or someone was telling fans in Portugal that signings were imminent.
I'm not for a second suggesting he was having us on, and fully appreciate that stuff falls through all the time.
But that's the danger of being too open with fans. We will always get excited at news like that, and if nothing happens it will lead to criticism.
We signed a player last week
Heisenberg
21-07-2022, 10:29 AM
Its been very, very quiet on the signing front recently. The chat was BK or someone was telling fans in Portugal that signings were imminent.
I'm not for a second suggesting he was having us on, and fully appreciate that stuff falls through all the time.
But that's the danger of being too open with fans. We will always get excited at news like that, and if nothing happens it will lead to criticism.
Targets have potentially changed since the sale of Doig. More money to spend will hopefully give us better quality. I’m not holding my breath but I hope that’s the case.
neil7908
21-07-2022, 10:34 AM
We signed a player last week
Yes but it was a reactive move to directly replace someone that had left. That isn't strengthening the squad and from what fans have reported, is not what BK was referring to.
neil7908
21-07-2022, 10:36 AM
Targets have potentially changed since the sale of Doig. More money to spend will hopefully give us better quality. I’m not holding my breath but I hope that’s the case.
Agreed but like you, I worry about our recruitment teams ability to invest £3m (or whatever they get from that) wisely.
To be honest, even in better days it's been incredibly challenging for a club like us to replace a multi million pound player.
SickBoy32
21-07-2022, 10:38 AM
Eh?
Of course he can look good again. He was one of the main reasons Morton didn't get a sniff apart from the penalty. He dealt with everything he had to with composure.
The chance to which you refer was taken off his head by the keeper's finger tips. Watch it again.
Whether or not Porteous and Hanlon are our number one pairing is irrelevant. Rocky and Porto did perfectly well last night which is contrary to what Gordon said about them.
Have just watched the highlights, the Irish boy certainly states that the goalie tips it - but very very marginal if any touch, as can see no change in the flight of the ball. Should've scored IMO.
Aye he played alright defensively last night, if we're being honest though he's still no good enough for the SPL. Seen him mistime his jump plenty times in the last 6 months, add to that questionable technique on the ball.
Sad state of affairs that we used to sign proper centre halves like McGregor and Ambrose, now pulling in guys like Bushiri (with apparently a 6 figure fee to rub salt in the wounds!!)
SickBoy32
21-07-2022, 10:39 AM
Rockys been our best player/most consistent player over pre season. He’s been a lot better than Porteous as well.
Rocky doesn’t deserve to get dropped.
Henderson IMO, by a distance
Stuart93
21-07-2022, 10:42 AM
Have just watched the highlights, the Irish boy certainly states that the goalie tips it - but very very marginal if any touch, as can see no change in the flight of the ball. Should've scored IMO.
Aye he played alright defensively last night, if we're being honest though he's still no good enough for the SPL. Seen him mistime his jump plenty times in the last 6 months, add to that questionable technique on the ball.
Sad state of affairs that we used to sign proper centre halves like McGregor and Ambrose, now pulling in guys like Bushiri (with apparently a 6 figure fee to rub salt in the wounds!!)
Genuinely can’t believe you’re taking a pop at Rocky after the way he’s performed pre season.
He’s been the least of our problems
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 10:42 AM
Henderson IMO, by a distance
Agree.
Personally think some are overdoing it with their praise for Rocky now after the comments that he feels like the fans hate him.
04Sauzee
21-07-2022, 10:50 AM
Agree.
Personally think some are overdoing it with their praise for Rocky now after the comments that he feels like the fans hate him.
So you personally think that? Maybe he's just been very good for us in the main in the game time he's had. Nothing to do with the nonsense that was spouted last season about him. A season he was being played whilst injured and was heavily strapped up. Perhaps people just see he's doing a good job and he deserves the credit he's been given.
Hibbyradge
21-07-2022, 10:50 AM
Have just watched the highlights, the Irish boy certainly states that the goalie tips it - but very very marginal if any touch, as can see no change in the flight of the ball. Should've scored IMO.
Aye he played alright defensively last night, if we're being honest though he's still no good enough for the SPL. Seen him mistime his jump plenty times in the last 6 months, add to that questionable technique on the ball.
Sad state of affairs that we used to sign proper centre halves like McGregor and Ambrose, now pulling in guys like Bushiri (with apparently a 6 figure fee to rub salt in the wounds!!)
The ball was deflected by the keeper. It's as clear as day. Rocky also claimed that he was fouled.
In any case, Porteous and Hanlon have missed dozens of chances in front of goal. To hold that against them would be completely unfair because they're not strikers.
Goals from centre halves are rare beasts despite them going up for every corner and free kick.
Paul has played nearly 400 times for Hibs, he's scored 20 goals. Ryan is 8 in 100. They've both missed "sitters".
I'm not going to change your mind because you've taken against Rocky but I think you're being blinkered and unfair.
SickBoy32
21-07-2022, 10:57 AM
The ball was deflected by the keeper. It's as clear as day. Rocky also claimed that he was fouled.
In any case, Porteous and Hanlon have missed dozens of chances in front of goal. To hold that against them would be completely unfair because they're not strikers.
Goals from centre halves are rare beasts despite them going up for every corner and free kick.
Paul has played nearly 400 times for Hibs, he's scored 20 goals. Ryan is 8 in 100. They've both missed "sitters".
I'm not going to change your mind because you've taken against Rocky but I think you're being blinkered and unfair.
Clear as day haha - we can agree to disagree on that one. Didn't see a foul either FWIW.
I don't think he's sub standard due to that miss, just feel that he should've scored. Of course Hanlon/Porteous have missed chances too, difference being I believe they are good quality SPL defenders, as they have proved previously.
I think he's out his depth as I've said due to his poor technical ability on the ball, repeated mistimed jumps for headers and poor positioning at times. Don't think he's a top 4 centre half, but maybe best just to leave it at that.
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 10:59 AM
So you personally think that? Maybe he's just been very good for us in the main in the game time he's had. Nothing to do with the nonsense that was spouted last season about him. A season he was being played whilst injured and was heavily strapped up. Perhaps people just see he's doing a good job and he deserves the credit he's been given.
Yes, hence why I said personally. Not sure why you’ve took such offence to it.
Imo he’s not been very good in the games so far, he’s been good in some without being brilliant and then poor in the first half against Falkirk with the rest of the team.
I also don’t think he was ever as bad as some have made out.
SHODAN
21-07-2022, 11:05 AM
Anyone clamouring for a proven top flight midfielder will be disappointed when we sign a 20 year old from Malaga (work permit est. 6 weeks) after the inevitable defeat to Hearts, and panic buy loan signing Lewis McNogames, 18, from Wycombe on deadline day once we're solidly bottom six.
The club have said the midfield isn't a priority. It hasn't been a priority for four years despite being the main reason for our decline. There might be a centre back and that's it. Deal with it.
JimBHibees
21-07-2022, 11:07 AM
Rockys been our best player/most consistent player over pre season. He’s been a lot better than Porteous as well.
Rocky doesn’t deserve to get dropped.
Nowhere near our best player. Henderson by miles. Rocky is nowhere near good enough but has a good attitude. Could have scored a couple of goals last night if he could head a ball
04Sauzee
21-07-2022, 11:07 AM
Yes, hence why I said personally. Not sure why you’ve took such offence to it.
Imo he’s not been very good in the games so far, he’s been good in some without being brilliant and then poor in the first half against Falkirk with the rest of the team.
I also don’t think he was ever as bad as some have made out.
No offence taken 😀
thebausburst
21-07-2022, 11:31 AM
Simple question but why can’t Hibs just buy 2 real quality players each window and build a really good side over the next 3-4 windows why do we need 12 odd players all potentially average or poorer than we have?
Iain G
21-07-2022, 11:38 AM
Simple question but why can’t Hibs just buy 2 real quality players each window and build a really good side over the next 3-4 windows why do we need 12 odd players all potentially average or poorer than we have?
As that strategy wont satisfy the increasing blood lust that the support has for throwing them all under the bus at the drop of a hat and demanding replacements :greengrin
Greenworld
21-07-2022, 11:41 AM
There is nothing happening at hibs the we did not already know.
It is relatively simple but we have only signed one of the players needed Marshall .
3 more like him needed ch. Cm .cf.
That's it it been the case for seasons now they have the cash so get it done.
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SaulGoodman
21-07-2022, 11:41 AM
Simple question but why can’t Hibs just buy 2 real quality players each window and build a really good side over the next 3-4 windows why do we need 12 odd players all potentially average or poorer than we have?
Because we seem to have an obsession with buying young players that might net us a good fee when we sell them without really thinking we need experience to go with it.
Even some of the best players in the world weren’t dropped straight into the first team at 19 years old.
degenerated
21-07-2022, 11:55 AM
Because we seem to have an obsession with buying young players that might net us a good fee when we sell them without really thinking we need experience to go with it.
Even some of the best players in the world weren’t dropped straight into the first team at 19 years old.How many 19 year olds were playing for us last night?
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 01:06 PM
I can’t believe how much of a feel good factor was in the club and that’s all gone and more over the past week with a defeat to Falkirk, drawing with Morton and almost being out of the cup…..to more or less certainly being kicked out due to fielding a suspended player.
The club need to get fans back on side quickly with a couple of big signings.
H18 SFR
21-07-2022, 01:08 PM
I can’t believe how much of a feel good factor was in the club and that’s all gone and more over the past week with a defeat to Falkirk, drawing with Morton and almost being out of the cup…..to more or less certainly being kicked out due to fielding a suspended player.
The club need to get fans back on side quickly with a couple of big signings.
This is genuinely the best way to bury this, get a big signing announced.
flash
21-07-2022, 01:11 PM
This is genuinely the best way to bury this, get a big signing announced.
I totally agree.
People are rightly annoyed with the combination of poor performance and now poor admin.
Youan and Cabraja's work permits along with a quality new addition would be very welcome.
04Sauzee
21-07-2022, 01:13 PM
I can’t believe how much of a feel good factor was in the club and that’s all gone and more over the past week with a defeat to Falkirk, drawing with Morton and almost being out of the cup…..to more or less certainly being kicked out due to fielding a suspended player.
The club need to get fans back on side quickly with a couple of big signings.
Kyle Hudlin?
Haymaker
21-07-2022, 01:17 PM
10 years ago we signed Leigh Griffiths. Today we could and SHOULD sign him again. We need him.
Why don't we actually try Tait. He was put out on loan his first season, he could be what this team is missing.
B
His form wasn’t exactly great
A lot of folk on here were quite glad to see him go, the free up a wage crew.
We're being asked to believe that we are picking up gems from these clubs.
Somehow, we're a step ahead of other cubs in unearthing them!
It's crazy when you think about it. Out of all the teams in Portugal, for example, none of them could entice a 'promising youngeste' to sign. Or Spain for that matter.
I'd imagine that a young player in Portugal would look to move to Spain in a similar way that our guys want to move down south.
Instead, the young lad opts to move to a mid table club in Scotland to further his career? Why? It doesn't add up.
Similarly a young lad move to the Dons from Portugal, I wonder how that adds up?
500miles
21-07-2022, 02:35 PM
Yes more Drey Wright, Liam Craig, Jamie Murphy please!
On what I've seen so far, we'd have been better off keeping Murphy than signing McGeady.
skyehibee
21-07-2022, 02:47 PM
Why don't we actually try Tait. He was put out on loan his first season, he could be what this team is missing.
B
Said the same last night, he can’t be any worse than Campbell.
500miles
21-07-2022, 02:53 PM
Said the same last night, he can’t be any worse than Campbell.
Well Kenneh appears to be worse than Campbell, so I wouldn't be too confident.
04Sauzee
21-07-2022, 02:55 PM
Notice Mitchell has posted on his Instagram he will be back in 2 weeks, assuming that means fit enough to play?
May have been mentioned elsewhere so apologise if it has.
silverhibee
21-07-2022, 03:01 PM
I totally agree.
People are rightly annoyed with the combination of poor performance and now poor admin.
Youan and Cabraja's work permits along with a quality new addition would be very welcome.
Could we try to get Gilmour on loan from Chelsea.
Gmack7
21-07-2022, 03:02 PM
Notice Mitchell has posted on his Instagram he will be back in 2 weeks, assuming that means fit enough to play?
May have been mentioned elsewhere so apologise if it has.
Can he play LCB, LB, CM X2, RW, & CF?
ian cruise
21-07-2022, 03:02 PM
Its been very, very quiet on the signing front recently. The chat was BK or someone was telling fans in Portugal that signings were imminent.
I'm not for a second suggesting he was having us on, and fully appreciate that stuff falls through all the time.
But that's the danger of being too open with fans. We will always get excited at news like that, and if nothing happens it will lead to criticism.
Was it not BK said the there were deals in place for two players in central defence and it was with LJ to decide who he wanted? Might be he said neither were good enough and to go find better.
silverhibee
21-07-2022, 03:03 PM
10 years ago we signed Leigh Griffiths. Today we could and SHOULD sign him again. We need him.
Would rather we signed the young kid at Stenhousemuir, Riordan I think his name is. :thumbsup:
Joe6-2
21-07-2022, 03:04 PM
Would rather we signed the young kid at Stenhousemuir, Riordan I think his name is. :thumbsup:
Sign both!!
davhibby
21-07-2022, 03:15 PM
Notice Mitchell has posted on his Instagram he will be back in 2 weeks, assuming that means fit enough to play?
May have been mentioned elsewhere so apologise if it has.
Hopefully. He’d be an improvement at left mid compared to what we’ve seen so far.
Billy Whizz
21-07-2022, 03:23 PM
Notice Mitchell has posted on his Instagram he will be back in 2 weeks, assuming that means fit enough to play?
May have been mentioned elsewhere so apologise if it has.
Back training, playing or just back from his hols😀
JohnM1875
21-07-2022, 03:23 PM
Can he play LCB, LB, CM X2, RW, & CF?
😂
Scotty Leither
21-07-2022, 03:32 PM
How many 19 year olds were playing for us last night?
Kenney. Signed as our "No 6" according to Gordon. Nae first-team experience to speak of, yet heralded as a "big" signing.
We're being played by a Board who seem to think we're not noticing how the club is being run.
GreenNWhiteArmy
21-07-2022, 03:43 PM
Generally felt we're a CB and CM away from challenging for top 4
Doubts creeping in about that after the last week. Possibly two CM, a CB and a striker (with Doidge moving on)
HendoDelivered
21-07-2022, 03:56 PM
Generally felt we're a CB and CM away from challenging for top 4
Doubts creeping in about that after the last week. Possibly two CM, a CB and a striker (with Doidge moving on)
We’re so far off top 4 even if we get a new CB & CM imo.
Paulie Walnuts
21-07-2022, 03:58 PM
We’re so far off top 4 even if we get a new CB & CM imo.
Yup.
Unless they’re called Van Dijk and John McGinn then we won’t be top 4.
We’ll get another young laddie in for centre mid and we’ll have Ron and Ben wondering why a couple of inexperienced kids haven’t fixed the shambles of a midfield.
Iain G
21-07-2022, 04:01 PM
Kenney. Signed as our "No 6" according to Gordon. Nae first-team experience to speak of, yet heralded as a "big" signing.
We're being played by a Board who seem to think we're not noticing how the club is being run.
I still don't understand why people think they are being "played" or "conned"? Too many paranoid conspiracy theorists on here that not even Fox Mulder would believe!
Paulie Walnuts
21-07-2022, 04:03 PM
I still don't understand why people think they are being "played" or "conned"? Too many paranoid conspiracy theorists on here that not even Fox Mulder would believe!
You don’t understand why fans of a club that’s taken in £6m in transfer fees would think they’re being played when we’ve made the signings we have? Really?
JammyDoidger
21-07-2022, 04:03 PM
I still don't understand why people think they are being "played" or "conned"? Too many paranoid conspiracy theorists on here that not even Fox Mulder would believe!
We are being conned. At least 6m in transfer fees and look at the state of our recruitment again. Not rocket science to work out.
Iain G
21-07-2022, 04:04 PM
We are being conned. At least 6m in transfer fees and look at the state of our recruitment again. Not rocket science to work out.
How are we being conned??? :confused:
Guessing you aren't a rocket scientist...
K-Zazu
21-07-2022, 04:28 PM
Does Rainbow FC have any more players we could have? Maybe a couple of 18 year olds? With an option to buy of course
Steven79
21-07-2022, 04:37 PM
Does Rainbow FC have any more players we could have? Maybe a couple of 18 year olds? With an option to buy of courseI hear that Zippy is available...
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bingo70
21-07-2022, 04:38 PM
We are being conned. At least 6m in transfer fees and look at the state of our recruitment again. Not rocket science to work out.
Will it not show up in the accounts?
What do you think is happening? The Gordon’s are taking the transfer money for themselves?
BlackSheep
21-07-2022, 04:46 PM
Will it not show up in the accounts?
What do you think is happening? The Gordon’s are taking the transfer money for themselves?
As much as I want to reply to most of these comments as well, i have given up.... too many angry folk on here looking for someone to blame and they won't listen to reason.
I do applaud your attempts to calm folk down.
I live in hope that as usual this forum is just the small noisy minority of our fanbase. A full season ahead and fans want to start with sacking the board and getting the owner to sell.... you couldn't write it!
MrSmith
21-07-2022, 04:46 PM
I thought the sale of Boyle shored up the accounts during the Covid lockdown?
Paulie Walnuts
21-07-2022, 04:50 PM
Will it not show up in the accounts?
What do you think is happening? The Gordon’s are taking the transfer money for themselves?
Depends how you want to look at it.
Are they directly pocketing the money? I doubt it but I’m sure we’ll see in the accounts.
Are they avoiding spending the majority of that money on the team and instead spending that money on adding value to the stuff that they own such as the stadium and therefore increasing the value of their asset? Now that’s a much more difficult question to answer..
leith lynx
21-07-2022, 04:52 PM
I hear that Zippy is available...
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I think we have Bungle at the club already!
cameronw-hfc
21-07-2022, 04:53 PM
Depends how you want to look at it.
Are they directly pocketing the money? I doubt it but I’m sure we’ll see in the accounts.
Are they avoiding spending the majority of that money on the team and instead spending that money on adding value to the stuff that they own such as the stadium and therefore increasing the value of their asset? Now that’s a much more difficult question to answer..
Are we no due Ron about 6M anyway for the loan he gave us? He'd have every right to pocket it if true
bingo70
21-07-2022, 04:54 PM
As much as I want to reply to most of these comments as well, i have given up.... too many angry folk on here looking for someone to blame and they won't listen to reason.
I do applaud your attempts to calm folk down.
I live in hope that as usual this forum is just the small noisy minority of our fanbase. A full season ahead and fans want to start with sacking the board and getting the owner to sell.... you couldn't write it!
I wasn’t aware that’s what I was doing 😂
Im pretty relaxed about everything in all honesty, there was a time I’d have been as hysterical as most but I’ve got a bit more perspective now I think. If Hibs are **** for a bit it’s not the end of the world, getting knocked out the cup early isn’t the end of the world and despite the end result I actually enjoyed spells last night when we were pushing for goals towards the end.
What will be will be and all that.
Feel free to remind me of this post oj transfer deadline day when we’ve still not signed a ****ing midfielder 😡
bingo70
21-07-2022, 04:55 PM
Depends how you want to look at it.
Are they directly pocketing the money? I doubt it but I’m sure we’ll see in the accounts.
Are they avoiding spending the majority of that money on the team and instead spending that money on adding value to the stuff that they own such as the stadium and therefore increasing the value of their asset? Now that’s a much more difficult question to answer..
Perfectly entitled to do that if that’s the route they’ve gone down. I wouldn’t say that’s us being conned though as investments in the stadium are also long term investments in the club.
Paulie Walnuts
21-07-2022, 04:57 PM
Perfectly entitled to do that if that’s the route they’ve gone down. I wouldn’t say that’s us being conned though as investments in the stadium are also long term investments in the club.
I’d say it’s us being conned if it’s to the detriment of the team. With our transfer window so far, I certainly don’t think that’s a ridiculous suggestion.
The club is for the fans. The fans want the best team possible on the pitch. We’re being told all the money will be reinvested into the team but there’s no real sign of us investing anything close to the amount we’ve brought in into the playing squad. There’s plenty signs of us flinging money around to make the stadium etc worth more though.
BlackSheep
21-07-2022, 05:04 PM
I wasn’t aware that’s what I was doing 😂
Im pretty relaxed about everything in all honesty, there was a time I’d have been as hysterical as most but I’ve got a bit more perspective now I think. If Hibs are **** for a bit it’s not the end of the world, getting knocked out the cup early isn’t the end of the world and despite the end result I actually enjoyed spells last night when we were pushing for goals towards the end.
What will be will be and all that.
Feel free to remind me of this post oj transfer deadline day when we’ve still not signed a ****ing midfielder 😡
I am in the same boat mate, glimpses of hope last night towards the end, but i tell you now, i dunno how my seat isn't bent at the front as i feel we as fans are constantly on the edge of our seats for the last 15 mins as we push for goals that most of the time never come!!!
I try to look for the silver lining most of the time, as much as we love a League Cup run, could this work out in our favour... less games, less injuries?
Agree that my patience may not be as intact after the transfer window if we dont address the obvious.... CB, CM and CF for me....
Depends how you want to look at it.
Are they directly pocketing the money? I doubt it but I’m sure we’ll see in the accounts.
Are they avoiding spending the majority of that money on the team and instead spending that money on adding value to the stuff that they own such as the stadium and therefore increasing the value of their asset? Now that’s a much more difficult question to answer..
You say it's a much more difficult question to answer, but you also say we'll see it in the accounts. The 2nd comment is correct, its actually easy to see the increase in the value of assets, both fixed, infrastructure, and intangible fixed assets, players. I'm also bemused that people still think that transfer fees are the only way of spending on the team. Do we really think that players uproot from Australia, USA, Switzerland, Portugal etc etc without recompense? FWIW I would be astonished if anyone thought a football club was an attractive option because of the value of their fixed assets. A club will increase their value by considerably more if they are successful on the pitch.
big gogs
21-07-2022, 05:27 PM
10 years ago we signed Leigh Griffiths. Today we could and SHOULD sign him again. We need him.
No.
jakeshibs
21-07-2022, 05:34 PM
Will it not show up in the accounts?
What do you think is happening? The Gordon’s are taking the transfer money for themselves?
terrible post
Does Rainbow FC have any more players we could have? Maybe a couple of 18 year olds? With an option to buy of course
I have just been driving past the Meadows and there was a young lad playing keepie-uppie who looked like a prospect. Probably worth a punt.
ScottB
21-07-2022, 05:47 PM
I mean, free transfers aren’t free, and a couple guys on decent money for 2-3 years will very quickly start to eat into the money brought in.
Whether that budget is being used effectively is a debate that can be had all day long, but we’ve paid a number of fees in the last year as well as bringing in players, so money is very much being spent.
scuttle
21-07-2022, 05:53 PM
10 years ago we signed Leigh Griffiths. Today we could and SHOULD sign him again. We need him.
Well he can certainly take a penalty, score free kicks and has a good delivery at set pieces.Oh wait a minute we have players who can do that don’t we
blackpoolhibs
21-07-2022, 06:08 PM
We signed Darren mcgregor from a championship team.
Scott Allan had 8 premier league appearances to his name when we signed him.
I dont care who we sign players from, they just need to be better than we currently have.
terrible post
Why, it's a fair question to sum what hysterical post.
HoboHarry
21-07-2022, 06:22 PM
Well he can certainly take a penalty, score free kicks and has a good delivery at set pieces.Oh wait a minute we have players who can do that don’t we
Did he never miss from a penalty or free kick?
Allant1981
21-07-2022, 06:26 PM
Well he can certainly take a penalty, score free kicks and has a good delivery at set pieces.Oh wait a minute we have players who can do that don’t we
When was the last time he done all those things?
scuttle
21-07-2022, 06:28 PM
Did he never miss from a penalty or free kick?
Never said he scored them all
scuttle
21-07-2022, 06:31 PM
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033676]When was the last time he done all those things?[/QUOTE
When was the last time he got the chance. All I’m saying is a fit sparky would be better than we have IMO
Tyler Durden
21-07-2022, 06:34 PM
I’d say it’s us being conned if it’s to the detriment of the team. With our transfer window so far, I certainly don’t think that’s a ridiculous suggestion.
The club is for the fans. The fans want the best team possible on the pitch. We’re being told all the money will be reinvested into the team but there’s no real sign of us investing anything close to the amount we’ve brought in into the playing squad. There’s plenty signs of us flinging money around to make the stadium etc worth more though.
Re your first paragraph - it is a ridiculous suggestion.
A football stadium is worthless by the way. The investments are made to grow the clubs revenues. Something Ron has already managed by about 30%.
He’s committed that we double the wage bill in 5 years. We’re about 2 years into that and we’ve likely increased the football budget by about 30% already.
How that is spent is clearly the main problem so far. But it is nonsense and pure ignorance to suggest Gordon is trying to pocket transfer fees himself. He’s laid out a plan and he gives regular updates - all of which will be validated by our accounts.
Allant1981
21-07-2022, 06:35 PM
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033676]When was the last time he done all those things?[/QUOTE
When was the last time he got the chance. All I’m saying is a fit sparky would be better than we have IMO
He was playing every week for falkirk in the 2nd division and couldnt do those things
Smartie
21-07-2022, 06:40 PM
When was the last time he got the chance. All I’m saying is a fit sparky would be better than we have IMO
A fit sparky would be better than we have.
Unfortunately "a fit sparky" now lives with the unicorns and flying pigs.
scuttle
21-07-2022, 06:41 PM
[QUOTE=scuttle;7033687]
He was playing every week for falkirk in the 2nd division and couldnt do those things
Aye ok then your right I’m wrong, if your happy with Doidge and Meilkerson so far your easy pleased
SaulGoodman
21-07-2022, 06:44 PM
A fit sparky would be better than we have.
Unfortunately "a fit sparky" now lives with the unicorns and flying pigs.
An apprentice sparky would be better than what we have
davhibby
21-07-2022, 06:45 PM
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033694]
Aye ok then your right I’m wrong, if your happy with Doidge and Meilkerson so far your easy pleased
Both are infinitely better than a man who’s just been passed up on by *checks notes* Forfar Athletic
Allant1981
21-07-2022, 06:46 PM
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033694]
Aye ok then your right I’m wrong, if your happy with Doidge and Meilkerson so far your easy pleased
Yip i am right and you are 100% wrong as he hasnt done anything of note in a very long time, hence why he now has no club and forfar wouldn't even sign him, and where have i said im happy with doidge or melkersen? Think you will find i havent once mentioned them
Mcbizz1998
21-07-2022, 06:49 PM
Griffiths chat is so boring. He won’t be back here so why do we insist on discussing it?
It’s not even in the realms of possibility.
scuttle
21-07-2022, 06:53 PM
[QUOTE=scuttle;7033704]
Yip i am right and you are 100% wrong as he hasnt done anything of note in a very long time, hence why he now has no club and forfar wouldn't even sign him, and where have i said im happy with doidge or melkersen? Think you will find i havent once mentioned them
Thought this was a forum didn’t realise I couldn’t have a different opinion from your obviously vastly superior footballing knowledge
Allant1981
21-07-2022, 06:56 PM
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033716]
Thought this was a forum didn’t realise I couldn’t have a different opinion from your obviously vastly superior footballing knowledge
Show me where i said you couldnt have an opinion, couple of posts where you have just made stuff up now
Stanton Spence
21-07-2022, 06:56 PM
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033716]
Thought this was a forum didn’t realise I couldn’t have a different opinion from your obviously vastly superior footballing knowledgeYou don't need a vastly superior knowledge of football to know that Griffiths is done and will never be near playing in the top flight again sadly
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JohnM1875
21-07-2022, 06:59 PM
Sounds like a deal is almost close going by the RG podcast posted earlier. Nearly slipped the name out as well.
Tambo
21-07-2022, 07:06 PM
we need another wide attacking player on top of a cb and cm imo.
Notts Forrest paying Jesse Lingaard 200k per week. Madness
CL0762
21-07-2022, 07:09 PM
10 years ago we signed Leigh Griffiths. Today we could and SHOULD sign him again. We need him.
Do you not get bored of this? Even if it’s some sort of inside joke I’m not aware of, it’s been absolutely done to death.
CL0762
21-07-2022, 07:10 PM
Sounds like a deal is almost close going by the RG podcast posted earlier. Nearly slipped the name out as well.
McCrorie all over again.
JohnM1875
21-07-2022, 07:13 PM
McCrorie all over again.
Haha aye! Glad the name didn't slip to be fair. Hope it is close to done though.
[QUOTE=Aldot1981;7033694]
Aye ok then your right I’m wrong, if your happy with Doidge and Meilkerson so far your easy pleased
yes because that’s exactly what they said, ffs
Do you not get bored of this? Even if it’s some sort of inside joke I’m not aware of, it’s been absolutely done to death.
Totally agree, past it's sell by date along time ago.
McIntosh
21-07-2022, 07:40 PM
Is the club trying to sign anyone? If so, what is their pedigree and experience?
Iain G
21-07-2022, 07:41 PM
Is the club trying to sign anyone? If so, what is their pedigree and experience?
No they aren't as Ron has trousered all the money as part of his Ponzi scheme....
No they aren't as Ron has trousered all the money as part of his Ponzi scheme....
Some people probably believe that 😅
xqnq1875
21-07-2022, 08:01 PM
Hibs central caught with his pants down yet again [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
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04Sauzee
21-07-2022, 08:10 PM
Hibs central caught with his pants down yet again [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
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How so?
xqnq1875
21-07-2022, 08:18 PM
How so?
Tried to say Ron said we’re close to signing a cb and one of the hibs podcasts quote tweeted him basically calling him a liar because they were interviewing Ron also and he said no such thing according to them
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BoomtownHibees
21-07-2022, 08:19 PM
Tried to say Ron said we’re close to signing a cb and one of the hibs podcasts quote tweeted him basically calling him a liar because they were interviewing Ron also and he said no such thing according to them
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But Ron did say that I’m sure
flash
21-07-2022, 08:20 PM
Tried to say Ron said we’re close to signing a cb and one of the hibs podcasts quote tweeted him basically calling him a liar because they were interviewing Ron also and he said no such thing according to them
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Am confused. I thought he nearly named someone during the interview?
Coco Bryce
21-07-2022, 08:23 PM
New signing will be to replace Porto who has clearly chucked it to fast track his exit out the club.
flash
21-07-2022, 08:25 PM
New signing will be to replace Porto who has clearly chucked to fast track his exit out the club.
I agree with you on that one. Some bizarre performances already this season culminating in what almost looked like a deliberate penalty miss.
Tried to say Ron said we’re close to signing a cb and one of the hibs podcasts quote tweeted him basically calling him a liar because they were interviewing Ron also and he said no such thing according to them
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which podcast tweeted that?
Coco Bryce
21-07-2022, 08:27 PM
I agree with you on that one. Some bizarre performances already this season culminating in what almost looked like a deliberate penalty miss.
Martin Boyle like ala Livi 😉
Heisenberg
21-07-2022, 08:29 PM
New signing will be to replace Porto who has clearly chucked it to fast track his exit out the club.
We’d still need another centre half on top of that if the next signing is to replace Porteous.
xqnq1875
21-07-2022, 08:53 PM
which podcast tweeted that?
Down the slope mate, haven’t seen the interview yet so I’m about to find out if Ron really did say anything
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Martymck
21-07-2022, 08:56 PM
As much as I want to reply to most of these comments as well, i have given up.... too many angry folk on here looking for someone to blame and they won't listen to reason.
I do applaud your attempts to calm folk down.
I live in hope that as usual this forum is just the small noisy minority of our fanbase. A full season ahead and fans want to start with sacking the board and getting the owner to sell.... you couldn't write it!
My thoughts exactly
Iain G
21-07-2022, 09:08 PM
Am confused. I thought he nearly named someone during the interview?
He did nearly name someone and stopped and said he hoped we would get it completed...who said he didn't?
Down the slope mate, haven’t seen the interview yet so I’m about to find out if Ron really did say anything
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cheers bud :aok:
Unseen work
21-07-2022, 09:19 PM
Jesus Christ.
I know Hibs central gets loads of stick but the DTS lads are being fairly picky calling him a liar over that.
“Closing in on an acquisition at centre half……we’re hopefully closing in on an acquisition at centre half”
He also said when speaking about ‘prime players’ he mentioned Cabraja and then almost said the name of a player.
Haymaker
21-07-2022, 09:41 PM
Would rather we signed the young kid at Stenhousemuir, Riordan I think his name is. :thumbsup:
I've heard he's a little goal machine. Is his dad any good?
Iain G
21-07-2022, 09:44 PM
Jesus Christ.
I know Hibs central gets loads of stick but the DTS lads are being fairly picky calling him a liar over that.
“Closing in on an acquisition at centre half……we’re hopefully closing in on an acquisition at centre half”
He also said when speaking about ‘prime players’ he mentioned Cabraja and then almost said the name of a player.
Have found DTS a pretty depressing listen and not overly positive, will stick to long bangers
I've heard he's a little goal machine. Is his dad any good?
:hyper
Haymaker
21-07-2022, 09:56 PM
:hyper
Firm agree :agree:
04Sauzee
21-07-2022, 09:58 PM
Have found DTS a pretty depressing listen and not overly positive, will stick to long bangers
Longbangers and Hibs talk but they have gone a bit quiet recently which is a shame .
Coco Bryce
21-07-2022, 10:11 PM
Have found DTS a pretty depressing listen and not overly positive, will stick to long bangers
One of the guys on it is exceptionally depressing as ****.
Big_Franck
21-07-2022, 10:39 PM
One of the guys on it is exceptionally depressing as ****.
I watched DTS once and I think I know which guy you mean. Unbelievably negative, seems to think he's an authority on everything and his voice is horrible to listen to. I couldn't listen to DTS again because of him.
Haymaker
22-07-2022, 02:02 AM
:hyper
California-Hibs
22-07-2022, 04:32 AM
One of the guys on it is exceptionally depressing as ****.
There's a lad on the Hibs Talk podcast that fits that bill aswel, but more along the lines of embracing and thriving on that negativity so much that he's molded himself into playing that part and loves to showcase his pessimism and sticking the boot in any way he can. Don't get me wrong, I'm not insinuating that I only want to listen to 'happy clappers', I put the boot in and vent my frustrations when things aren't going well, but I can't stand when either things at the club are going well, or a podcast is talking about a certain good win and folk love to act up and get uncomfortable when talking about something positive and in those circumstances continously try to maintain their image and stick negative comments in to change the flow, or try to look and sound 'cool' or 'funny'.
That was happening way too much for me with Hibs Talk, which is a shame because most of them are actually really balanced and bring good thoughts to the air, but I had to give up because of a certain guy just being a depressing clown and you can tell he was thriving on it.
Anyway that's when I decided to try out LongBangers and Strong Opinion Hibs, and found those podcast to be far more enjoyable.
Real Emerald
22-07-2022, 10:35 AM
How’s recruitment coming along this morning? Anymore wonder kids being linked?
flash
22-07-2022, 10:40 AM
How’s recruitment coming along this morning? Anymore wonder kids being linked?
Are you genuinely interested or was this just another pot shot at the club?
(It's a rhetorical question I am well aware which one it is.)
Real Emerald
22-07-2022, 10:44 AM
Are you genuinely interested or was this just another pot shot at the club?
(It's a rhetorical question I am well aware which one it is.)
No, lI’m very interested to see an improvement in the team after again lashing out £400 quid on a season ticket. Do you actually think I would do that hoping to watch pish again?
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 10:50 AM
So we’re apparently getting close with a quality cente half. Any ideas?
Callum_62
22-07-2022, 10:51 AM
No, lI’m very interested to see an improvement in the team after again lashing out £400 quid on a season ticket. Do you actually think I would do that hoping to watch pish again?
Freddy Adu and To Madeira are names ive heard
flash
22-07-2022, 10:52 AM
No, lI’m very interested to see an improvement in the team after again lashing out £400 quid on a season ticket. Do you actually think I would do that hoping to watch pish again?
Was more alluding to the wonder kid part of your post.
Have found DTS a pretty depressing listen and not overly positive, will stick to long bangers
One of the guys on it is exceptionally depressing as ****.
I watched DTS once and I think I know which guy you mean. Unbelievably negative, seems to think he's an authority on everything and his voice is horrible to listen to. I couldn't listen to DTS again because of him.
interestingly, I found exactly the same. Started listening to what I hoped would be a really interesting pod they’d released a wee while back, and ended up stopping it about a third of the way through as one guy was so patronising and dismissive of the others opinions, and very negative.
as said by others, I’m interested in hearing a range of opinions, including ones that disagree with mine, but it went beyond sharing opinions and thoughts, was quite arrogant and made a few digs at players and his fellow hosts, totally put me off listening again.
I don’t know the guy’s name, but I hope he starts to find something positive about Hibs to enjoy
Heisenberg
22-07-2022, 10:53 AM
RG did mention the two we are going for would be players in their prime (I think). Hopefully we get them in soon.
Real Emerald
22-07-2022, 11:00 AM
Was more alluding to the wonder kid part of your post.
I was trying to revive our transfer thread as it’s all gone a bit quiet understandably, with a tongue-in-cheek remark about our standard of signings so far.
Anyway DOES anyone know if anything is bubbling under regarding signings?
McGruber
22-07-2022, 11:02 AM
How’s recruitment coming along this morning? Anymore wonder kids being linked?
Yes - Shayden Morris, a 20 year old winger from Fleetwood
Haymaker
22-07-2022, 11:02 AM
Freddy Adu and To Madeira are names ive heard
They're no Griffiths but :hyper they'll do!
Dalianwanda
22-07-2022, 11:02 AM
I was trying to revive our transfer thread as it’s all gone a bit quiet understandably, with a tongue-in-cheek remark about our standard of signings so far.
Anyway DOES anyone know if anything is bubbling under regarding signings?
Ron does...
flash
22-07-2022, 11:04 AM
I was trying to revive our transfer thread as it’s all gone a bit quiet understandably, with a tongue-in-cheek remark about our standard of signings so far.
Anyway DOES anyone know if anything is bubbling under regarding signings?
The owner certainly alluded to a central defender and there's been talk of another midfielder too.
Think these will be good level ready to play sort of signings.
Real Emerald
22-07-2022, 11:11 AM
Yes - Shayden Morris, a 20 year old winger from Fleetwood
Seeing I’m in Fleetwood this morning I shall investigate, does he have a market stall. 😂
Real Emerald
22-07-2022, 11:12 AM
The owner certainly alluded to a central defender and there's been talk of another midfielder too.
Think these will be good level ready to play sort of signings.
Hopefully 👍
Coco Bryce
22-07-2022, 11:23 AM
I watched DTS once and I think I know which guy you mean. Unbelievably negative, seems to think he's an authority on everything and his voice is horrible to listen to. I couldn't listen to DTS again because of him.
Has to be the same guy :agree:
It's only some fans having a laugh to be fair but I really couldn't listen to that monotone voice for long.
Unseen work
22-07-2022, 12:00 PM
Although I never agreed with the tweet I actually really like DTS and think the guys do a good job.
I don’t think it’s overly negative other than the odd comment wanting Hanlon and Campbell out 😅
scuttle
22-07-2022, 12:02 PM
Freddy Adu and To Madeira are names ive heard
I've not played championship manager for years, To Madeira was one of the best signings you could get
Springbank
22-07-2022, 12:06 PM
Seeing I’m in Fleetwood this morning I shall investigate, does he have a market stall. 😂
Market stall is so last century buddy
It's a youtube showreel that we all rush to [mis]judge potential signings on these days:aok:
eastmainsmsh
22-07-2022, 12:11 PM
Ron trying to tempt Alexi Lalas out of retirement
silverhibee
22-07-2022, 12:26 PM
I've heard he's a little goal machine. Is his dad any good?
He certainly is, 2 footed as well, his dad should be invited to EM to work with our strikers for a few hours each week.
He certainly is, 2 footed as well, his dad should be invited to EM to work with our strikers for a few hours each week.
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He certainly is, 2 footed as well, his dad should be invited to EM to work with our strikers for a few hours each week.
A few weeks each hour more like!
Alex Trager
22-07-2022, 12:56 PM
https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status/1550458230442172417?s=21&t=i--sfqDuxvs4zS4pMd5xjQ
Central Defender for Hibs in Edinburgh today for his medical over the weekend. He's young. Played 80+ games for his side who won a title in England last season.
Impeccable source. #GGTTH 💚
bingo70
22-07-2022, 01:01 PM
https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status/1550458230442172417?s=21&t=i--sfqDuxvs4zS4pMd5xjQ
Central Defender for Hibs in Edinburgh today for his medical over the weekend. He's young. Played 80+ games for his side who won a title in England last season.
Impeccable source. #GGTTH 💚
Somebody suggesting this guy…..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udoka_Godwin-Malife
JammyDoidger
22-07-2022, 01:04 PM
Somebody suggesting this guy…..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udoka_Godwin-Malife
Right sided, can play right back, it's the other side we need, unless we are getting 2 in..
Callum_62
22-07-2022, 01:10 PM
https://www.fgr.co.uk/team/player/udoka-godwin-malife
Edit - no idea if it is him
Callum_62
22-07-2022, 01:19 PM
Any more chat on the midfielder?
I do wonder if that was who Ron almost let slip out
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MagicSwirlingShip
22-07-2022, 01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status/1550458230442172417?s=21&t=i--sfqDuxvs4zS4pMd5xjQ
Central Defender for Hibs in Edinburgh today for his medical over the weekend. He's young. Played 80+ games for his side who won a title in England last season.
Impeccable source. #GGTTH 💚
Going out on a whim, Ben Goodliffe, from Sutton United
LewysGot2
22-07-2022, 01:22 PM
Somebody suggesting this guy…..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udoka_Godwin-Malife
Ron said the 2 targets are players in their prime - so not likely to be a 21 year old
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 01:24 PM
Going out on a whim, Ben Goodliffe, from Sutton United
Never won a title last season.
patlowe
22-07-2022, 01:25 PM
Somebody suggesting this guy…..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udoka_Godwin-Malife
Had a quick glance at the Forest Green forum and he seems quite well liked as an athletic RCB/RWB
bingo70
22-07-2022, 01:27 PM
Ron said the 2 targets are players in their prime - so not likely to be a 21 year old
I’d suggest a 21 year old that’s played 80+ first team game very much fits that bill.
A 21 year old that hasn’t kicked a ball in first team football maybe not.
04Sauzee
22-07-2022, 01:27 PM
https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status/1550458230442172417?s=21&t=i--sfqDuxvs4zS4pMd5xjQ
Central Defender for Hibs in Edinburgh today for his medical over the weekend. He's young. Played 80+ games for his side who won a title in England last season.
Impeccable source. #GGTTH 💚
Wonder what young actually means though ? RG was talking about the players we were looking at being in their prime?
Prime isn't old but I'd have thought maybe 24-28 bracket?
LewysGot2
22-07-2022, 01:33 PM
I’d suggest a 21 year old that’s played 80+ first team game very much fits that bill.
A 21 year old that hasn’t kicked a ball in first team football maybe not.
He was talking about experience, leadership etc. 21 is still incredibly young.
Players in their prime are 25-30 ish.
That's what we're needing.
I'm Spartacus
22-07-2022, 01:35 PM
Ron trying to tempt Alexi Lalas out of retirement
"Hey Alexi, how about playing for the Edinboro Greens? Give me a HELL YEAH!"
Nothing would surprise me.
04Sauzee
22-07-2022, 01:37 PM
https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status/1550458230442172417?s=21&t=i--sfqDuxvs4zS4pMd5xjQ
Central Defender for Hibs in Edinburgh today for his medical over the weekend. He's young. Played 80+ games for his side who won a title in England last season.
Impeccable source. #GGTTH 💚
He's also tweeted something strange about Magennis?
I'm Spartacus
22-07-2022, 01:40 PM
https://twitter.com/hibbysmurf/status/1550458230442172417?s=21&t=i--sfqDuxvs4zS4pMd5xjQ
Central Defender for Hibs in Edinburgh today for his medical over the weekend. He's young. Played 80+ games for his side who won a title in England last season.
Impeccable source. #GGTTH
Kane Wilson from Forest Green?
Cancel that. He has signed for Bristol.
sleeping giant
22-07-2022, 01:41 PM
He's also tweeted something strange about Magennis?
Is that the same Smurf that used to post on here ?
I'm Spartacus
22-07-2022, 01:42 PM
Dom Bernard from Forest Green haha.
Aged 25 and played 87 games.
NC1875
22-07-2022, 01:42 PM
Kane Wilson from Forest Green?
Cancel that. He has signed for Bristol.
Signed for Bristol City
bingo70
22-07-2022, 01:43 PM
He was talking about experience, leadership etc. 21 is still incredibly young.
Players in their prime are 25-30 ish.
That's what we're needing.
I think you’re putting too much emphasis on their age.
21 year olds all have varying levels of experience, some will be in their prime at that age, some won’t.
Just my opinion however number of first team games played is a better indicator of their experience and how close to their prime they are.
bingo70
22-07-2022, 01:46 PM
Dom Bernard from Forest Green haha.
Aged 25 and played 87 games.
Left sided centre back. Would seem like a better fit for what we are needing than some other names mentioned.
LewysGot2
22-07-2022, 01:46 PM
I think you’re putting too much emphasis on their age.
21 year olds all have varying levels of experience, some will be in their prime at that age, some won’t.
Just my opinion however number of first team games played is a better indicator of their experience and how close to their prime they are.
Age is a really important factor in terms of resilience, experience to draw on and so on. Footballers are generally thought to be in their prime in their mid to late 20s where the balance of experience, maturity and fitness levels peak before the latter starts to decline unless you're James Milner 😉
If we're in a dog fight this year we'll not want to rely on a team predominantly in their early 20s.
bigwheel
22-07-2022, 01:47 PM
I think you’re putting too much emphasis on their age.
21 year olds all have varying levels of experience, some will be in their prime at that age, some won’t.
Just my opinion however number of first team games played is a better indicator of their experience and how close to their prime they are.
21 wouldn’t be deemed as “in their prime “ as a footballer though. Would it ?? Would be more 25-29 type of age group …Wouldn’t quite be in line with the expectations set by RG on the podcast
Unseen work
22-07-2022, 01:48 PM
The same boys post about Magennis is an odd one.
HendoDelivered
22-07-2022, 01:49 PM
“Impeccable source” 😂
B.H.F.C
22-07-2022, 01:49 PM
I think you’re putting too much emphasis on their age.
21 year olds all have varying levels of experience, some will be in their prime at that age, some won’t.
Just my opinion however number of first team games played is a better indicator of their experience and how close to their prime they are.
Age wouldn’t concern me for a centre half if they’re a good player who know what playing first team football is all about.
They’ll have Marshall behind them. Two first choice full backs are of good age and experience. And they’ll be playing next to Porteous or Hanlon most likely.
LewysGot2
22-07-2022, 01:57 PM
Is that the same Smurf that used to post on here ?
Think it's a poster who is more regularly on The Bounce but posts across a range of socials
Alex Trager
22-07-2022, 01:57 PM
Any more chat on the midfielder?
I do wonder if that was who Ron almost let slip out
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I thought Ron said there was a CH nearing completion which is what he nearly let slip, not a CM?
NC1875
22-07-2022, 02:00 PM
The same boys post about Magennis is an odd one.
What does it say ?
Alex Trager
22-07-2022, 02:00 PM
“Impeccable source” 😂
Aye just seen his other tweet about KM which makes me think he’s at the wind up
04Sauzee
22-07-2022, 02:04 PM
Think it's a poster who is more regularly on The Bounce but posts across a range of socials
Yip he's posted the same tweet on the bounce
Eaststand
22-07-2022, 02:06 PM
Aye just seen his other tweet about KM which makes me think he’s at the wind up
What does he say about KM ?
GGTTH
brydekirk
22-07-2022, 02:08 PM
You don’t understand why fans of a club that’s taken in £6m in transfer fees would think they’re being played when we’ve made the signings we have? Really?
The club hasn't received all the money. The Boyle transfer is over 3 years and Doig is similar.
Alex Trager
22-07-2022, 02:10 PM
What does he say about KM ?
GGTTH
Kyle Magennis:
Hibs are hoping that his latest minor op on his groin will have him back in a couple of wks. He's been a significant investment. If he doesn't reach a number of games within a certain period the club has a clause they can activate in his contract. Impeccable source
McGruber
22-07-2022, 02:10 PM
It might well be rubbish anyway but Wigan won their league - Jason Kerr fairly young, 80 plus appearances you would think for St J
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 02:14 PM
The club hasn't received all the money. The Boyle transfer is over 3 years and Doig is similar.
We can still sign players and commit the fees towards their signing though whether that’s by us also paying out fees in instalments or high wages which would obviously be paid over a number of years as well.
We might not have £6m in the bank right now but we can commit the full £6m this window if we wanted to.
04Sauzee
22-07-2022, 02:17 PM
We can still sign players and commit the fees towards their signing though whether that’s by us also paying out fees in instalments or high wages which would obviously be paid over a number of years as well.
We might not have £6m in the bank right now but we can commit the full £6m this window if we wanted to.
I'm not an accountant but it would seem a bit daft to me to commit 6m to transfers and wages if we have only perhaps received one third of it? I have no idea how much we have received btw
Eaststand
22-07-2022, 02:23 PM
Kyle Magennis:
Hibs are hoping that his latest minor op on his groin will have him back in a couple of wks. He's been a significant investment. If he doesn't reach a number of games within a certain period the club has a clause they can activate in his contract. Impeccable source
Ta for that AT 👍
GGTTH
Ringothedog
22-07-2022, 02:31 PM
We can still sign players and commit the fees towards their signing though whether that’s by us also paying out fees in instalments or high wages which would obviously be paid over a number of years as well.
We might not have £6m in the bank right now but we can commit the full £6m this window if we wanted to.
This is why fans should never run football clubs. Hibs will spend what they can afford at this moment in time. When we get future parts of any fee we will spend it at that time. You are asking Hibs to spend money they do not have and effectively go into debt. That went well the last time we did that.
HibsGW
22-07-2022, 02:39 PM
This is why fans should never run football clubs. Hibs will spend what they can afford at this moment in time. When we get future parts of any fee we will spend it at that time. You are asking Hibs to spend money they do not have and effectively go into debt. That went well the last time we did that.
That isn’t what was said. What you’ve said in the first bit is exactly what was said.
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 02:42 PM
This is why fans should never run football clubs. Hibs will spend what they can afford at this moment in time. When we get future parts of any fee we will spend it at that time. You are asking Hibs to spend money they do not have and effectively go into debt. That went well the last time we did that.
I’m not asking us to spend money we don’t have. I’m asking us to spend the money we do have and commit to spending the money we will have in future when we have it. That commitment can be made now and allows us to make much more enticing offers for players and offer much more enticing contracts than we could if we spend it in dribs and drabs and is exactly what other teams are doing to us and what the majority of teams around the world do.
Do you think Hellas Verona are about to go to the wall because they commited to signing Doig by instalments?
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 02:48 PM
I'm not an accountant but it would seem a bit daft to me to commit 6m to transfers and wages if we have only perhaps received one third of it? I have no idea how much we have received btw
Why does it seem daft?
Other teams are doing exactly that to us when they’re commiting to paying for Doig over a number of years or Boyle over a number of years.
WhileTheChief..
22-07-2022, 02:52 PM
When we buy a player we will also be able to pay it up over 2 or 3 years in the same way as Verona are doing with the Doig fee.
It doesn't just go one way against Hibs.
That allows us to 'spend' the Boyle and Doig money, even though it's not in our bank account.
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 02:55 PM
When we buy a player we will also be able to pay it up over 2 or 3 years in the same way as Verona are doing with the Doig fee.
It doesn't just go one way against Hibs.
That allows us to 'spend' the Boyle and Doig money, even though it's not in our bank account.
Exactly.
I’m not quite sure why it’s a bad idea for Hibs to do it. If it’s that bad an idea and would lead to a club being in financial jeopardy then we wouldn’t be accepting offers in instalments incase the buying club went bust.
LewysGot2
22-07-2022, 02:57 PM
It might well be rubbish anyway but Wigan won their league - Jason Kerr fairly young, 80 plus appearances you would think for St J
25 years old and over 200 professional outings. That's the ball park you'd think we'd like. Knows the league too.
Paulie Walnuts
22-07-2022, 02:58 PM
25 years old and over 200 professional outings. That's the ball park you'd think we'd like. Knows the league too.
It’s certainly the standard you’d be hoping we’re looking at after our player sales.
CapitalGreen
22-07-2022, 03:05 PM
It’s certainly the standard you’d be hoping we’re looking at after our player sales.
Reportedly on £15k pw following Wigan’s promotion to the Championship. That’s £2m+ on wages alone over a 3 year contract before factoring in transfer fees and signing on bonus. We should have been all over him while he was at St Johnstone instead of spending all summer courting Jamie McCart only to get bumped.
chippy
22-07-2022, 03:07 PM
This is why fans should never run football clubs. Hibs will spend what they can afford at this moment in time. When we get future parts of any fee we will spend it at that time. You are asking Hibs to spend money they do not have and effectively go into debt. That went well the last time we did that.
What nonsense. Capitalist owned club doesn’t do basics on suspended player on Tuesday. Hearts not doing badly, as are Motherwell, St Mirren, ….let me see… oh Barcelona. Fan owned club hire professionals to run the club in a business like professional manner
Hibiza
22-07-2022, 03:11 PM
A fit McGennis would be a God send right now. Greg Docherty, who went to Hull after a loan with us, he'd be a great addition in my humble.
chippy
22-07-2022, 03:11 PM
Reportedly on £15k pw following Wigan’s promotion to the Championship. That’s £2m+ on wages alone over a 3 year contract before factoring in transfer fees and signing on bonus. We should have been all over him while he was at St Johnstone instead of spending all summer courting Jamie McCart only to get bumped.
Is he getting all his salary though ?Wasn’t reporting recently that they were late a couple of times with players wages suggesting possible financial issues. 8k from us plus signing on fee, bonus might do the trick
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