Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[phoenixfire]

Born in Fray Bentos.

A bit hard of hearing, maybe?

Took a minute to get , very good:thumbsup:

[Heisenberg]

From a quick translation of a few tweets in reaction to that story they don’t seem happy he’s leaving.

[Callum_62]

Not to be too negative but another young player that’ll need a work permit?Every player we sign who isn't british will require a work permit - likley most of our signings

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[Callum_62]

Our signing policy is shocking.

No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.Don't care, with a name like that he's a winner

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[Paloschi]

A Uruguayan under 20 international with plenty senior games under his belt. Highly rated in South America and would be a coup for Hibs. Love that we are looking into the profile or player and looking wider than previous years.

Apparently it’s a shocking policy according to fans on here. People are never happy. This is much more exciting than signing a centre back released by Rotherham or signed from Morcambe etc etc

[CapitalGreen]

We don’t need a first choice left footer as Hanlon is our first choice and is back in full training. What we need is a player who will go on to replace Hanlon as his gametime decreases over the next few years. Like Porteous coming through and replacing McGregor.

[500miles]

The man from Fray Bentos, he say ****in aye.

[flash]

Kind of hoping that is for the development side and not our answer to our CB problem

This guy is not in any way a development team player. A quick scan of twitter shows how highly rated he is in South America.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A Uruguayan under 20 international with plenty senior games under his belt. Highly rated in South America and would be a coup for Hibs. Love that we are looking into the profile or player and looking wider than previous years.

Apparently it’s a shocking policy according to fans on here. People are never happy. This is much more exciting than signing a centre back released by Rotherham or signed from Morcambe etc etc

Unless his Wikipedia is wrong he’s not an u20 international.

[GloryGlory]

What's this?

https://i.ibb.co/JvYXRwP/Screenshot-2022-07-25-16-26-59-11-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/VgFXWc8)

According to this he has Uruguayan and Italian citizenship.

And he's Fray Bentos! :greengrin

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joaquin-sosa/profil/spieler/657742

[GloryGlory]

A Uruguayan under 20 international with plenty senior games under his belt. Highly rated in South America and would be a coup for Hibs. Love that we are looking into the profile or player and looking wider than previous years.

Apparently it’s a shocking policy according to fans on here. People are never happy. This is much more exciting than signing a centre back released by Rotherham or signed from Morcambe etc etc

His contract at his current club is up to 31 December this year - wonder if it's another loan with option to buy deal?

[stuart-farquhar]

According to this he has Uruguayan and Italian citizenship.

And he's Fray Bentos! :greengrin

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joaquin-sosa/profil/spieler/657742
Let's hope he doesn't make a hash of it!

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/scoutsourced/status/1298024162439593984?t=VioCAFJ6mcC-m3a7Nfw4_g&s=19

https://twitter.com/scoutsourced/status/1295263871167594496?t=HJvrcQZVMTXTiIvioj_Pfg&s=19

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[Libby Hibby]

Not to be too negative but another young player that’ll need a work permit?

Do all non British now not require a WP?

[Alfred E Newman]

According to this he has Uruguayan and Italian citizenship.

And he's Fray Bentos! :greengrin

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joaquin-sosa/profil/spieler/657742

Mair spam!

[Vault Boy]

The inevitable scouting video: https://youtu.be/OY14ElUmk8I

[CapitalGreen]

Looking at the work permit points I think he should be eligible for the easy pass (not guaranteed as I don’t know how it fully works). This is how Celtic got a WP so quickly for Bernabei.

He needs 15 points for an easy pass.

He played 100% of his teams minutes in the Copa Scudamerica which is worth 10 points.
His minutes played in the Uruguayan top league will be worth somewhere between 1-3 points.
The club he plays for is worth a further 4 points.

[GloryGlory]

Mair spam!

What's your beef? :greengrin

[badabing67]

Hanlon is back in non contact training with Mitchel .Still a fair bit to go before he is match fit .
Mcgennis is not even at that stage yet
McGregor played fir the second half yesterday .

You have got to wonder if Magennis is going to make any meaningful contribution, we are going into the 3rd year of his contract, will have 2 yrs left at the end of the season and how many games has he played.

[brog]

Our signing policy is shocking.

No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.

Yep, let's go back to the days of the established pros like Rowan Vine, Owain Tudor Jones and Mickey Nelson. Just for once try and not be automatically negative!

[HoboHarry]

What's your beef? :greengrin

Tried to think of a reason but ah kidney..

.

[StevieHendo]

The fact people are saying they think rocky is going to be a sure starter genuinely fills me with fear. not much ambition of confidence if he's best we have defensively? surely even if this lads inexperienced he's a better option

[blackpoolhibs]

Yep, let's go back to the days of the established pros like Rowan Vine, Owain Tudor Jones and Mickey Nelson. Just for once try and not be automatically negative!

This is why i live in hope, and i'm completely wrong about this long term plan.

[badabing67]

Did anyone other than Maloney play Doig at CB?

Pretty sure he never played there because the were no alternatives, it was a conscious choice of the manager to play him there.

Which was a poor choice.

Apparently he played CB when he was at Hearts, and was released.

[GloryGlory]

Tried to think of a reason but ah kidney..

.

I'd have steaked my life you'd say that!

[Spike Mandela]

Our signing policy is shocking.

No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.

It's certainly a policy. Yet to see if it's a bold move or a foolish one. This season could be unbelievable or could be a disaster.

If it works out, it could make us a lot of money if not...

[MWHIBBIES]

The fact people are saying they think rocky is going to be a sure starter genuinely fills me with fear. not much ambition of confidence if he's best we have defensively? surely even if this lads inexperienced he's a better option

Rocky has been absolutely fine so far this season. No reason whatsoever to worry if he plays.

[JamesHFC]

Rocky has been absolutely fine so far this season. No reason whatsoever to worry if he plays.

Our best defender in pre season imo

[Ronniekirk]

You have got to wonder if Magennis is going to make any meaningful contribution, we are going into the 3rd year of his contract, will have 2 yrs left at the end of the season and how many games has he played.
But we haven’t gone into the transfer market to get someone like him thst csn score from midfield Regularly Henderson’s a possibility if he keep improving
He will clearly get a chance under Lee if he can get fit But if he breaks down again before he can get back playing or fairly soon after he starts playing then we would need to be looking at the return we have had , and at some
Whether Some sort of severance package may be needed by end of the season
We clearly couldn’t go into his fourth year of contract with him still hardly having played for us
So it’s a big season for him His career will be in jeopardy if he can’t get fit and cement a place in the team

[Smartie]

According to this he has Uruguayan and Italian citizenship.

And he's Fray Bentos! :greengrin

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joaquin-sosa/profil/spieler/657742

Bet he's mince.

[Ronniekirk]

We don’t need a first choice left footer as Hanlon is our first choice and is back in full training. What we need is a player who will go on to replace Hanlon as his gametime decreases over the next few years. Like Porteous coming through and replacing McGregor.

Hanlon is back training but it’s no contact at this stage same as Mitchel Sontheybaint going to be first team ready in a few games time I don’t think

[Stuart93]

Will definitely steak his claim for a starting spot

[matty_f]

Will definitely steak his claim for a starting spot

He’ll need to earn his crust etc.

[Unseen work]

Why not? Have you seen him play there?

He’s young and modern players are more adaptable than they were, it’s very common to see them change positions.

I’ve not but I’ve seen him play centre half and imo he just wouldn’t be good there.

There seems to be a fascination at times for putting centre halves in there, over the years there’s been numerous threads about Hanlon or Porteous playing there.

We have more than enough centre mids before trying him there, even the likes of Delferierre and Tait look really good never mind the young lads in the 23s before we play Rocky there.

[JamesHFC]

He’ll need to earn his crust etc.

He will fancy a slice of the Edinburgh derby.

[JimBHibees]

I’ve not but I’ve seen him play centre half and imo he just wouldn’t be good there.

There seems to be a fascination at times for putting centre halves in there, over the years there’s been numerous threads about Hanlon or Porteous playing there.

We have more than enough centre mids before trying him there, even the likes of Delferierre and Tait look really good never mind the young lads in the 23s before we play Rocky there.

Remember when people thought Efe would be good in centre mid. Think it lasted twenty mins

[Aldo]

This Fray Bentos patter must surely be canned before admins look in?


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[CropleyWasGod]

Homer thinks he's a cert for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5CQgsFJm0c

[JamesHFC]

This Fray Bentos patter must surely be canned before admins look in?


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Chances of that are the square root of pi

[matty_f]

The inevitable scouting video: https://youtu.be/OY14ElUmk8I

He needs to be having words with whoever makes his videos, they’ve stitched him right up in this one.

[SChibs]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I've heard Huage is going to Dundalk on loan. Think it would be good for him to get a good run of games this year

[Allant1981]

Our signing policy is shocking.

No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.

Another negative post from you, shocker

[badabing67]

But we haven’t gone into the transfer market to get someone like him thst csn score from midfield Regularly Henderson’s a possibility if he keep improving
He will clearly get a chance under Lee if he can get fit But if he breaks down again before he can get back playing or fairly soon after he starts playing then we would need to be looking at the return we have had , and at some
Whether Some sort of severance package may be needed by end of the season
We clearly couldn’t go into his fourth year of contract with him still hardly having played for us
So it’s a big season for him His career will be in jeopardy if he can’t get fit and cement a place in the team

I will keep my fingers crossed for him because i think he is a real talent and would really improve us

[Unseen work]

Don’t think a 20 year old from Uraguy is what the majority of us were hoping for at centre half.

[Since452]

Another interesting signing if he joins. Really liking the signing policy.

[JamesHFC]

In all seriousness our development team is looking ****ing dynamite.

We need to be getting European football the next 2/3 years though otherwise other teams will push ahead of us by the time the young lads come through properly.

[flash]

Don’t think a 20 year old from Uraguy is what the majority of us were hoping for at centre half.

I was hoping for a good centre half.

[Callum_62]

Don’t think a 20 year old from Uraguy is what the majority of us were hoping for at centre half.What we you hoping for?

Is he rubbish?

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[Bostonhibby]

Bet he's mince.I can see us frittering away another chunk of money here.

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[vercol36]

What we you hoping for?

Is he rubbish?

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Think he was hoping for a Bolivian wing back.

[Unseen work]

What we you hoping for?

Is he rubbish?

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I’ve no idea, he could be brilliant and if that is the case then superb.

The way I viewed it as we have three young defenders in Porteous, Rocky and Mclelland. Fair enough Porteous has loads of games and I would actually class him as experienced, but below the first team there’s also Blaney, Brydon etc coming through.

I wanted someone in their ‘prime’ as Johnson called it, 24-28 sort of age with a lot of experience and quality and be a leader.

This guy could be brilliant. But there will again be a work permit issue, language and culture change and obviously settling in to a new country.

I want someone to come in and hit the ground running, obviously this guy could do that but it’s a huge ask imo.

[Since452]

In all seriousness our development team is looking ****ing dynamite.

We need to be getting European football the next 2/3 years though otherwise other teams will push ahead of us by the time the young lads come through properly.

Reminds me of when I played Championship Manager back in the day, cheated and filled my reserves full of wonderkids from all over the world. Worked well for me!

[Callum_62]

I’ve no idea, he could be brilliant and if that is the case then superb.

The way I viewed it as we have three young defenders in Porteous, Rocky and Mclelland. Fair enough Porteous has loads of games and I would actually class him as experienced, but below the first team there’s also Blaney, Brydon etc coming through.

I wanted someone in their ‘prime’ as Johnson called it, 24-28 sort of age with a lot of experience and quality and be a leader.

This guy could be brilliant. But there will again be a work permit issue, language and culture change and obviously settling in to a new country.

I want someone to come in and hit the ground running, obviously this guy could do that but it’s a huge ask imo.So you want a 24-28 year old British Centre half basically?

Bit outside the age range but I can't believe we haven't signed him yet

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joe-shaughnessy/profil/spieler/119574

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[Torto7]

A Uruguayan under 20 international with plenty senior games under his belt. Highly rated in South America and would be a coup for Hibs. Love that we are looking into the profile or player and looking wider than previous years.

Apparently it’s a shocking policy according to fans on here. People are never happy. This is much more exciting than signing a centre back released by Rotherham or signed from Morcambe etc etc

Yeah this 100 pc. :aok:

[04Sauzee]

He needs to be having words with whoever makes his videos, they’ve stitched him right up in this one.

Watched it and hoped nobody would post it on here 🤣

[Ringothedog]

Our signing policy is shocking.

No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.

The sad thing is I hope you are wrong but you are desperate to be right

[Unseen work]

So you want a 24-28 year old British Centre half basically?

Bit outside the age range but I can't believe we haven't signed him yet

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joe-shaughnessy/profil/spieler/119574

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Not necessarily British but just someone that knows the league or played within the UK before and will be used to the demands.

We’ve seen plenty come in like I’ve described before and been terrible though so we’ll just have to wait and see!

[rotherhamrob]

Training on a Wednesday should consist of a game between the 1st team and the development team,whoever wins plays Saturday.

[hibee-boys]

The lad looks a different gravy😏

[davhibby]

Not necessarily British but just someone that knows the league or played within the UK before and will be used to the demands.

We’ve seen plenty come in like I’ve described before and been terrible though so we’ll just have to wait and see!

I would say that someone who’s coming from Uruguay will be used to a physical game, probably more so than any European league.

One thing that’s been talked about with some of the other young signings is lack of first team experience, this guy has been playing every week this year at a good level. Certainly an interesting one.

[Callum_62]

Not necessarily British but just someone that knows the league or played within the UK before and will be used to the demands.

We’ve seen plenty come in like I’ve described before and been terrible though so we’ll just have to wait and see!if they arnt British then we will have the same WP delays

Hopefully someone somewhere is working to speed that process up

Waiting 5+ weeks for a WP in an industry when the transfer window is open for 12 is crazy

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[Hibbyradge]

Hanlon is back training but it’s no contact at this stage same as Mitchel Sontheybaint going to be first team ready in a few games time I don’t think

Mitchel Sontheybaint? Is he the Belgian midfielder someone mentioned?

[Unseen work]

if they arnt British then we will have the same WP delays

Hopefully someone somewhere is working to speed that process up

Waiting 5+ weeks for a WP in an industry when the transfer window is open for 12 is crazy

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How long is it or what’s the rules for a foreign player currently playing within the UK or previously played here?

Genuinely intrigued and I don’t have a clue!

[Vault Boy]

He needs to be having words with whoever makes his videos, they’ve stitched him right up in this one.

Aye he’s clearly pissed off the editor :greengrin

[Callum_62]

How long is it or what’s the rules for a foreign player currently playing within the UK or previously played here?

Genuinely intrigued and I don’t have a clue!Previous wontmake a difference but its a good question on currently playing

There will still be a process but I'm not sure where to find it

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[greenginger]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62273648

I wonder how long this guys work permit will take.

[B.H.F.C]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62273648

I wonder how long this guys work permit will take.

Not long. Capped internationally for Turkey and played regularly in their top league.

[flash]

He needs to be having words with whoever makes his videos, they’ve stitched him right up in this one.

https://twitter.com/MartinCharquero/status/1380595487758299136?t=Sa3-8PbTaDtio42EbiunDg&s=19

Here's a better one.

[CapitalGreen]

if they arnt British then we will have the same WP delays

Hopefully someone somewhere is working to speed that process up

Waiting 5+ weeks for a WP in an industry when the transfer window is open for 12 is crazy

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By my count, Sosa easily reaches the 15 points necessary for an automatic work permit so hopefully shouldn’t take anywhere near as long as the others have.

[Smartie]

https://twitter.com/MartinCharquero/status/1380595487758299136?t=Sa3-8PbTaDtio42EbiunDg&s=19

Here's a better one.

What’s Uruguayan for “pick that one right out ya ****”?

[Tyler Durden]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I've heard Huage is going to Dundalk on loan. Think it would be good for him to get a good run of games this year

I’d be surprised by that given Steven Bradley is there and plays same position.

I’ve always thought that Hauge was basically signed to help Melkersen settle in. Nothing I’ve seen in his brief appearances have changed that view.

I remember when he signed, David Weatherston (ex Scottish pro based in Norway) said that he’d watched Hauge all season and felt he was miles away from our level.

[matty_f]

https://twitter.com/MartinCharquero/status/1380595487758299136?t=Sa3-8PbTaDtio42EbiunDg&s=19

Here's a better one.

Peach!!

[Paul1642]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62273648

I wonder how long this guys work permit will take.

The 6 Turkey apps will probably help.

[flash]

Peach!!

No doubt we won't sign him now.

[blackpoolhibs]

I’d be surprised by that given Steven Bradley is there and plays same position.

I’ve always thought that Hauge was basically signed to help Melkersen settle in. Nothing I’ve seen in his brief appearances have changed that view.

I remember when he signed, David Weatherston (ex Scottish pro based in Norway) said that he’d watched Hauge all season and felt he was miles away from our level.

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

It could also be argued he actually came with a better pedigree than Melkersen with a handful of first team appearances at Bodo/Glimt.

As you say, there’s no chance he’s been signed to keep Melkersen company.

[JohnM1875]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

Deivydas Matulevicius?

Nah, I actually totally agree with you, think we signed him cause we think he has potential.

[SlickShoes]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

Step forward Alex Marinkov

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/p_mcpartlin/status/1551628967257542656?s=21&t=zqgBEsdDBx_X2hKE0JTP4Q

Patrick hasn’t rubbished it so I imagine it’s right enough.

[Since452]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

Lyndon Andrews

[ian cruise]

But we haven’t gone into the transfer market to get someone like him thst csn score from midfield Regularly Henderson’s a possibility if he keep improving
He will clearly get a chance under Lee if he can get fit But if he breaks down again before he can get back playing or fairly soon after he starts playing then we would need to be looking at the return we have had , and at some
Whether Some sort of severance package may be needed by end of the season
We clearly couldn’t go into his fourth year of contract with him still hardly having played for us
So it’s a big season for him His career will be in jeopardy if he can’t get fit and cement a place in the team

I think Henderson was signed to be that player, whether he is/can be is another question.

Remember last season we had Scott Allan who managers would have hoped could fit that role.

[greenginger]

Not long. Capped internationally for Turkey and played regularly in their top league.

Seems there are several ways to accumulate the 15 points required to be granted a visa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62284560

[Stuart93]

Aberdeen signed Callum Roberts on a 3 year deal

They’ll not be short of players in a hurry

[greenlad]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

El Tanque

[CapitalGreen]

Aberdeen signed Callum Roberts on a 3 year deal

They’ll not be short of players in a hurry

Poor sheepies, just 24 hours ago they thought they were getting Boyle and they’ve ended up with a winger from non-League in England 😂

[GloryGlory]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

El Tanque Hurtado.

[bod]

What’s Uruguayan for “pick that one right out ya ****”?

Spanish is the language they speak

[GreenCastle]

The inevitable scouting video: https://youtu.be/OY14ElUmk8I

Some pretty dodgy play in that video early on.

[CapitalGreen]

Some pretty dodgy play in that video early on.

Tbf it’s from 2 years ago when he was 18.

[green day]

Aberdeen sign some guy called Cal Roberts from Notts County.

Striker.

[Gmack7]

I've heard this said before, i cant believe we'd just sign a player to keep another one company.

Eduardo Hurtado

[Hibernian Verse]

Aberdeen sign some guy called Cal Roberts from Notts County.

Striker.

Hibs net would be having a meltdown if we signed a striker from the National League that scored 0 in 10 for Killie.

[Silky]

I’ve no idea, he could be brilliant and if that is the case then superb.

The way I viewed it as we have three young defenders in Porteous, Rocky and Mclelland. Fair enough Porteous has loads of games and I would actually class him as experienced, but below the first team there’s also Blaney, Brydon etc coming through.

I wanted someone in their ‘prime’ as Johnson called it, 24-28 sort of age with a lot of experience and quality and be a leader.

This guy could be brilliant. But there will again be a work permit issue, language and culture change and obviously settling in to a new country.

I want someone to come in and hit the ground running, obviously this guy could do that but it’s a huge ask imo.

All decent points, but this utopian centre half with loads of experience could turn out to be crap. There's no guarantees imo that an older, experienced player will fare any better than a young, hungry one. All signings are a risk. I'm sure we could all name an experienced player we have signed who was totally Tom Kite.

[Alfred E Newman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62273648

I wonder how long this guys work permit will take.

Couple of handshakes.

[Silky]

Hibs net would be having a meltdown if we signed a striker from the National League that scored 0 in 10 for Killie.

Is he experienced, though?

[Hibernian Verse]

Is he experienced, though?

25. Club before Notts County was Blyth Spartans.

[IberianHibernian]

Sounds like it coul be a really good signing . Only 20 years old but already haa a lot of first team experience at a good level as a central defender and left back . Left home as a 14 year old for football reasons which might help him settle . Having Italian and Uruguayan nationality may be due to personal / family situation but may also suggest he`s keen to make a career in Europe . May not affect work permit situation if he signs for us ( though posts here seem to suggest he meets requirements to get WP quickly ) but would certainly help if we get a good offer from a club from Spain , Italy etc Would also help us to become better known to clubs and agents in South America and in rest of Europe . Hope it happens and if it does , congratulations to club and especially our recruitment team .

[Hibernian Verse]

I remember someone at Hibs suggesting we were going down the FC Midtjylland route a year or so ago and certainly seems to be the case. They have some fantastic young players and have taken a few from South America such as Evander from Vasco de Gama. I hope we can have some similar success (albeit on a lower level to begin with).

[Since452]

Remember we used to sign players like Michael Nelson and Owain Tudur Jones? Give me this signing policy every time.

[J-C]

if they arnt British then we will have the same WP delays

Hopefully someone somewhere is working to speed that process up

Waiting 5+ weeks for a WP in an industry when the transfer window is open for 12 is crazy

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Someone said somewhere, maybe PM board that he has dual nationality, Uruguay and Italy.

[Libby Hibby]

Remember we used to sign players like Michael Nelson and Owain Tudur Jones? Give me this signing policy every time.

Liam Craig, Akpo Sodje, Pu Kajabi, Rowan Vine…the list is endless.

Give me this signing approach, anytime.

[IberianHibernian]

I remember someone at Hibs suggesting we were going down the FC Midtjylland route a year or so ago and certainly seems to be the case. They have some fantastic young players and have taken a few from South America such as Evander from Vasco de Gama. I hope we can have some similar success (albeit on a lower level to begin with).Exactly . Obviously , many or most signings may not work out as always and like at all clubs but possible advantages of such a signing policy are numerous . Means fans may have to be patient as results may take a while to show . If this signing takes place it`s another example that our recruitment team is doing a lot of work and it`s not scattergun , but following a clear strategy . Whether that strategy will be successful in the next 3 to 5 years noone knows and will depend on how success is measured , but at least interesting times are coming .

[Unseen work]

I thought Cabraja’s work permit would have been relatively quick due to the amount of games played but doesn’t seem to be the case

[Callum_62]

Someone said somewhere, maybe PM board that he has dual nationality, Uruguay and Italy.Yep he does - that doesn't negate the need for a work permit anymore though

We no longer have freedom to work in Europe or Europeans to work here

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[Smartie]

Someone said somewhere, maybe PM board that he has dual nationality, Uruguay and Italy.

Does that help any more though?

Used to be that the Italian thing would guarantee the permit via being part of the EU, that will no longer be the criteria post-Brexit, there will now be different requirements. Not sure the Italy passport will carry any more weight than the Uruguay one.

[Alfred E Newman]

I'd have steaked my life you'd say that!

Stop talking mince!

[bingo70]

Does that help any more though?

Used to be that the Italian thing would guarantee the permit via being part of the EU, that will no longer be the criteria post-Brexit, there will now be different requirements. Not sure the Italy passport will carry any more weight than the Uruguay one.

Is there a danger some of these work permits could get knocked back or should it just be a formality really?

[MWHIBBIES]

Liam Craig, Akpo Sodje, Pu Kajabi, Rowan Vine…the list is endless.

Give me this signing approach, anytime.

McGinn, Fyvie, Gray, McGeouch, Allan...

Thats certainly more recent than the Calderwood/Fenlon disasters. While this transfer policy is better than 2012, we were still signing better players in the championship with a smaller budget.

I think a mix of younger players and some real proven quality is what we need. Although Youan and Cabraja could be just that.

[CapitalGreen]

I thought Cabraja’s work permit would have been relatively quick due to the amount of games played but doesn’t seem to be the case

The point system is only based on the previous 12 months.

The big one for getting points is playing in a continental competition such as Champions League, Europa League, Copa Libertadores or Copa Scudamerica. It’s worth up to 10 points of the 15 required if a player plays over 90% of minutes, however Cabraja only played 21% of minutes in the Europa League for Ferencvaros which is worth 0 points, however he will have 5 points for appearing in the group stage.

The Hungarian and Slovenian leagues are band 6 leagues so his league appearances are not worth many points.

[brog]

Is there a danger some of these work permits could get knocked back or should it just be a formality really?

I think the biggest problem is everything in UK is f****d at the moment. Huge delays for everything from getting an op to renewing a passport. I'm sure visas are no different..

[FilipinoHibs]

Sounds like it coul be a really good signing . Only 20 years old but already haa a lot of first team experience at a good level as a central defender and left back . Left home as a 14 year old for football reasons which might help him settle . Having Italian and Uruguayan nationality may be due to personal / family situation but may also suggest he`s keen to make a career in Europe . May not affect work permit situation if he signs for us ( though posts here seem to suggest he meets requirements to get WP quickly ) but would certainly help if we get a good offer from a club from Spain , Italy etc Would also help us to become better known to clubs and agents in South America and in rest of Europe . Hope it happens and if it does , congratulations to club and especially our recruitment team .

Lots of people of Italian desent in Uruguay and Minas Gerais/Sao Paolo. Uruguayan noted for being gritty footballers with a touch of skill. Should fit well into current Hibs set up.

[CapitalGreen]

I think the biggest problem is everything in UK is f****d at the moment. Huge delays for everything from getting an op to renewing a passport. I'm sure visas are no different..

Yup, it should typically take 4 weeks for a standard WP application but now taking 6 weeks on average. The home office have also suspended the priority and super priority options which football clubs would typically use to expedite the process.

[Del Boy]

Dundee United signed an Australian keeper last Tuesday and he was playing for them on Saturday v Fleetwood and confirmed he’s fine for first league game this weekend. Dunno how some are so quick

[Borderhibbie76]

I think the biggest problem is everything in UK is f****d at the moment. Huge delays for everything from getting an op to renewing a passport. I'm sure visas are no different..

I renewed my passport 2 weeks ago...took a grand total of 7 days to arrive

[Ronniekirk]

Mitchel Sontheybaint? Is he the Belgian midfielder someone mentioned?

Lol no idea

[IberianHibernian]

Yep he does - that doesn't negate the need for a work permit anymore though

We no longer have freedom to work in Europe or Europeans to work here

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkIf we sign him , main advantage of dual nationality would be being able to sell him to a team from EU country without counting as a foreigner there . That could be a huge selling point .

[cameronw-hfc]

Dundee United signed an Australian keeper last Tuesday and he was playing for them on Saturday v Fleetwood and confirmed he’s fine for first league game this weekend. Dunno how some are so quick

Lewis Millers was pretty quick as well tbf. Depends on the country as well.

[IberianHibernian]

Dundee United signed an Australian keeper last Tuesday and he was playing for them on Saturday v Fleetwood and confirmed he’s fine for first league game this weekend. Dunno how some are so quickDouble nationality possibly . Pre Brexit I don`t remember work permits being a big issue when we signed non Europeans ( non EU ) .other than Norwegians back in 1970s - Fenwick , Claros , etc

[SMAXXA]

Our signing policy is shocking.

No danger are we getting 4th let alone 3rd this year.

That’s the spirit let’s be negative about someone you’ve never heard of let alone seen.

[Hibiza]

Owain Tudor - Jones , Jarkko Wiss , JDH , Campbell , Newell.

[04Sauzee]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[Paulie Walnuts]

Is there a danger some of these work permits could get knocked back or should it just be a formality really?

Ordinarily I would have said no.

I also would have said that about us playing suspended players though so who knows!

You’d have to presume the club know they’ll be approved.

[Hibernian Verse]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)

So he’s an attacking centre half. What could possibly go wrong?

Whatever happens - I’m here for it! Haha

[Springbank]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Thanks for posting - suspect it would be the opposite strengths/weaknesses for rocky & they may (in theory) make a decent partnership.

[bingo70]

So he’s an attacking centre half. What could possibly go wrong?

Whatever happens - I’m here for it! Haha

Sounds to me like a young, modern Zambernardi. I’d imagine with worse hair though.

[IberianHibernian]

The point system is only based on the previous 12 months.

The big one for getting points is playing in a continental competition such as Champions League, Europa League, Copa Libertadores or Copa Scudamerica. It’s worth up to 10 points of the 15 required if a player plays over 90% of minutes, however Cabraja only played 21% of minutes in the Europa League for Ferencvaros which is worth 0 points, however he will have 5 points for appearing in the group stage.

The Hungarian and Slovenian leagues are band 6 leagues so his league appearances are not worth many points.What would situation be for players we sign now who we want to sell to another club based in UK ? How long would UK WP last and would it allow player to sign for English club after us without paperwork problems ? Likewise if we want to sign player with WP at club in UK .

[Stuart93]

We’re definitely going baws oot like

[Lago]

So he’s an attacking centre half. What could possibly go wrong?

Whatever happens - I’m here for it! Haha
I'm pretty excited by his potential signing.

[Iain G]

I think the biggest problem is everything in UK is f****d at the moment. Huge delays for everything from getting an op to renewing a passport. I'm sure visas are no different..

Wouldn't be an issue if Brexit hadn't ****ed things up

[Paulie Walnuts]

Remember we used to sign players like Michael Nelson and Owain Tudur Jones? Give me this signing policy every time.

To be fair we more recently signed guys like Darren McGregor and Liam Fontaine.

I’m sure you could find positive and negative examples for both.

[King Cosell]

Don't know how the Uruguayan Premier League works but it's split into 2 groups, Group A and Group B, and Liverpool Montevideo are top of Group A. So, there's that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Don't know how the Uruguayan Premier League works but it's split into 2 groups, Group A and Group B, and Liverpool Montevideo are top of Group A. So, there's that.

A lot of the Twitter posts in response to the tweet that broke the news are mentioning an attempt to weaken Liverpool by his parent club Nacional.

Make of that what you will.

[nonshinyfinish]

He played 100% of his teams minutes in the Copa Scudamerica which is worth 10 points.


The big one for getting points is playing in a continental competition such as Champions League, Europa League, Copa Libertadores or Copa Scudamerica.

Are you doing this on purpose?

Made me laugh both times so fair enough.

[CapitalGreen]

What would situation be for players we sign now who we want to sell to another club based in UK ? How long would UK WP last and would it allow player to sign for English club after us without paperwork problems ? Likewise if we want to sign player with WP at club in UK .

5 years then the player would have the right to apply to settle permanently.

A player can change employer on an existing visa, they’ll need to apply to update theor visa if they change employer but as they are staying in the same occupation it would be straightforward.

[04Sauzee]

Are you doing this on purpose?

Made me laugh both times so fair enough.

🤣🤣🤣

[cameronw-hfc]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)


So what I can take from this is that he's not as strong defensively, very progressive passer, not insanely accurate and good at carrying the ball forward.

This should be fun😂

[CapitalGreen]

Are you doing this on purpose?

Made me laugh both times so fair enough.

Not intentional but hasn’t realised I’d done it twice! Was going to correct it earlier but thought it was funny too.

[04Sauzee]

So what I can take from this is that he's not as strong defensively, very progressive passer, not insanely accurate and good at carrying the ball forward.

This should be fun😂


Also from @stewartross89 on twitter

Liverpool Montevideo averaging 52.3% possession so volume defensive numbers might not be super high anyway, if dominating ball more often than not. Defensive duel win % maybe a concern but some nice passing numbers yeah - 9.57 progressive passes per 90, 77.3% success rate.

[Greencore]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)

What does reindeer on twitter have to say about this

[badabing67]

Apologises if already posted

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/joaquin-sosa-hibs-transfer-link-27574761

[hibee-boys]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Have I misinterpreted this or is it telling us that he weak points are his defensive stats…….bit of a worry if he’s a centre half no?😂

[Hibby70]

If people like these things and understand them more than I do.

From @stewartross89 on twitter

https://i.ibb.co/1KZBNNB/20220725-212342.png (https://imgbb.com/)

All I can see is when Yavin 4 comes into range.

And if you get that reference then you truly are a geek

[Coco Bryce]

Watched it and hoped nobody would post it on here 🤣

😂

[CraigHibee]

Liam Craig, Akpo Sodje, Pu Kajabi, Rowan Vine…the list is endless.

Give me this signing approach, anytime.

I'm getting nightmares just looking at the names

[Zambernardi1875]

Sounds to me like a young, modern Zambernardi. I’d imagine with worse hair though.

Fantastic

[Renfrew_Hibby]

A lot of the Twitter posts in response to the tweet that broke the news are mentioning an attempt to weaken Liverpool by his parent club Nacional.

Make of that what you will.

Nacional are one of the 'Big 2' in Uruguay, the more establishment minded side compared to Penarol so you can imagine this sort of behaviour.

[Springbank]

A lot of the Twitter posts in response to the tweet that broke the news are mentioning an attempt to weaken Liverpool by his parent club Nacional.

Make of that what you will.

Nacional are a serious pedigree club

This guy is worth a punt imo

[Forza Fred]

Anybody that was born in a place called Fray Bentos will dae me!

Could lead to a significant sponsorship boost as Scotmid in Easter Road see the tins fly off the shelf!

[HoboHarry]

All I can see is when Yavin 4 comes into range.

And if you get that reference then you truly are a geek

I thought I was looking inside a kaliedoscope.

[GreenCastle]

So he’s an attacking centre half. What could possibly go wrong?

Whatever happens - I’m here for it! Haha

Seems he doesn’t like aerial duals and only wins 50% of his headers of I’ve read that correctly ??!

[Torto7]

I take it the Uruguay guy is more first team signing than folk initially thought going by his pedigree? Also looking at his stats do they see him as a potential LB maybe?

[phoenixfire]

Seems he doesn’t like aerial duals and only wins 50% of his headers of I’ve read that correctly ??!

Going to be good at scoring headers at corners now !! Well here's hoping:wink:

[phoenixfire]

Going to be good at scoring headers at corners now !! Well here's hoping:wink:

Another ROB JONES:greengrin

[jacomo]

Don’t think a 20 year old from Uraguy is what the majority of us were hoping for at centre half.


Judging by their international team, Uruguay players are tough as teak and it seems this guy is highly rated.

You just seem to be throwing shade on this thread at the moment!

[Fergus52]

Seems he doesn’t like aerial duals and only wins 50% of his headers of I’ve read that correctly ??!

Nah how those graphs work is they take every CB in the Uruguayan league, and rank them on each metric. How much of each section of the radar is filled in represents what percentile he is in for each metric.

so 70% of CBs in that league had more arial duels than him, and 53% had a higher arial duel win %.

Not as worrying as it initially looks as the former could be explained by the fact that his team probably dominated possession most matches (as they won the league?) so he wouldn't be as facing as many crosses and long balls as other defenders.

Then to be just outside the top 50% for arial duel win % isn't that bad when you consider how young he is, if he fills out a bit and works on his strength you'd think this would improve.

[Unseen work]

Judging by their international team, Uruguay players are tough as teak and it seems this guy is highly rated.

You just seem to be throwing shade on this thread at the moment!

Throwing shade? Have a word.

I’m not doubting for a second the guy will be tough, but there will be a settling in period and getting used to the league.

After being on knocked out the league cup already I think it’s fair to say the majority wanted some quality additions, especially at centre half. Does a 20 year old from Uraguy fill me with loads of confidence? No.

It’s of course exciting as he could be brilliant, but we just don’t know and imo the majority of our players fit that bill at the moment.

He might be brilliant but it’s a huge ask.

[andrew70]

An agent just suggested to me on twitter he has a British passport. The Uruguayan I mean

[04Sauzee]

Born in Fray Bentos.

A bit hard of hearing, maybe?

He lifted me a pie upon his shoulder 🎶🎶

[Souter96Mac]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but I wonder what this means for this CB we were supposedly linked with who is based in England. Unless one of Rocky or McLelland goes out on loan, I can't see us bringing in another CB on top of Sosa.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Dundee United signed an Australian keeper last Tuesday and he was playing for them on Saturday v Fleetwood and confirmed he’s fine for first league game this weekend. Dunno how some are so quick

Probably due to the two year visa rule for Aussies, and if a parent was born in UK. Aussies can work 12 months in a 24 month period without WP.

[GloryGlory]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but I wonder what this means for this CB we were supposedly linked with who is based in England. Unless one of Rocky or McLelland goes out on loan, I can't see us bringing in another CB on top of Sosa.

Porteous away? :dunno:

Hibs had already taken negotiations quite far for Cabraja, just waited for Doig to be confirmed at Verona before completing the Cabraja deal.

[ian cruise]

All I can see is when Yavin 4 comes into range.

And if you get that reference then you truly are a geek

"That's not a moon"

[Big_Franck]

I've been reading twitter posts from journalists and Uruguayan football fans since the Joaquin Sosa rumour emerged.

Sosa is contracted to Nacional (one of the 2 biggest clubs in the country, the other being Peñarol) but has only ever played once for them. He was loaned out to a small club called Rentistas last year and was a regular there. This season he has been loaned out to Liverpool and he has also been a regular there. Liverpool are actually doing so well this season that they are challenging Nacional for titles and Nacional fans seem happy to sell him now, thereby weakening Liverpool's chances this season. Where have we seen that stuff before!?

From comments on twitter he seems to have played some games at left back but is really a left sided centre half. He doesn't seem to be what we'd normally expect from a Uruguayan centre half (I always think of Godin) as he is more of a footballing centre half rather than a very strong, dominant centre half. He apparently likes a long pass, in particular long diagonals and likes to play out from the back. He doesn't appear as strong defensively in the air as we'd expect from a Uruguayan centre back but does seem to be a goal threat at the other end.

Going by comments from fans he seems to be defensively likely to make the odd mistake and he isn't particularly strong or great in the air. On the flip side he gets lots of positive comments on his ability on the ball and on his left foot. Some Nacional fans seem to want to keep him as he has potential so that's a good sign too. All in all, not quite what you'd maybe expect from a Uruguayan centre half.

[H18 SFR]

Porteous away? :dunno:

Hibs had already taken negotiations quite far for Cabraja, just waited for Doig to be confirmed at Verona before completing the Cabraja deal.

Whether it’s now, January or next summer, Porteous will be away. In terms of bringing in a fee of some sorts, now is probably the best time to move him on.

[BlackSheep]

I've been reading twitter posts from journalists and Uruguayan football fans since the Joaquin Sosa rumour emerged.

Sosa is contracted to Nacional (one of the 2 biggest clubs in the country, the other being Peñarol) but has only ever played once for them. He was loaned out to a small club called Rentistas last year and was a regular there. This season he has been loaned out to Liverpool and he has also been a regular there. Liverpool are actually doing so well this season that they are challenging Nacional for titles and Nacional fans seem happy to sell him now, thereby weakening Liverpool's chances this season. Where have we seen that stuff before!?

From comments on twitter he seems to have played some games at left back but is really a left sided centre half. He doesn't seem to be what we'd normally expect from a Uruguayan centre half (I always think of Godin) as he is more of a footballing centre half rather than a very strong, dominant centre half. He apparently likes a long pass, in particular long diagonals and likes to play out from the back. He doesn't appear as strong defensively in the air as we'd expect from a Uruguayan centre back but does seem to be a goal threat at the other end.

Going by comments from fans he seems to be defensively likely to make the odd mistake and he isn't particularly strong or great in the air. On the flip side he gets lots of positive comments on his ability on the ball and on his left foot. Some Nacional fans seem to want to keep him as he has potential so that's a good sign too. All in all, not quite what you'd maybe expect from a Uruguayan centre half.

Sound like an ideal backup/replacement to Hanlon

[CapitalGreen]

Whether it’s now, January or next summer, Porteous will be away. In terms of bringing in a fee of some sorts, now is probably the best time to move him on.

We’re not short of money, he is worth more to the team this season than a paltry fee now.

[Lago]

Judging by their international team, Uruguay players are tough as teak and it seems this guy is highly rated.

You just seem to be throwing shade on this thread at the moment!
At the moment it would seem Hibs are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't in terms of transfer targets, they are too old, too young, don't know the Scottish league, injury prone. Hibs have been criticised for not being adventurous in looking outwith the UK and also for bring in unknown players from.... out with the UK.

[JammyDoidger]

Dundee United close to signing Australian international left back Aziz Behich, handy team they're putting together aswell, plenty experience.

[Billy Whizz]

See Tam McManus is saying in the papers today, that Steven Fletcher’s 1st choice was to rejoin Hibs

[patlowe]

I've been reading twitter posts from journalists and Uruguayan football fans since the Joaquin Sosa rumour emerged.

Sosa is contracted to Nacional (one of the 2 biggest clubs in the country, the other being Peñarol) but has only ever played once for them. He was loaned out to a small club called Rentistas last year and was a regular there. This season he has been loaned out to Liverpool and he has also been a regular there. Liverpool are actually doing so well this season that they are challenging Nacional for titles and Nacional fans seem happy to sell him now, thereby weakening Liverpool's chances this season. Where have we seen that stuff before!?

From comments on twitter he seems to have played some games at left back but is really a left sided centre half. He doesn't seem to be what we'd normally expect from a Uruguayan centre half (I always think of Godin) as he is more of a footballing centre half rather than a very strong, dominant centre half. He apparently likes a long pass, in particular long diagonals and likes to play out from the back. He doesn't appear as strong defensively in the air as we'd expect from a Uruguayan centre back but does seem to be a goal threat at the other end.

Going by comments from fans he seems to be defensively likely to make the odd mistake and he isn't particularly strong or great in the air. On the flip side he gets lots of positive comments on his ability on the ball and on his left foot. Some Nacional fans seem to want to keep him as he has potential so that's a good sign too. All in all, not quite what you'd maybe expect from a Uruguayan centre half.

Zambernardi vibes :greengrin

[Crab apple]

See Tam McManus is saying in the papers today, that Steven Fletcher’s 1st choice was to rejoin Hibs

Saws that too. He seemed to be suggesting that it was made clear that we felt that we were well already well covered for strikers.

[Stuart93]

See Tam McManus is saying in the papers today, that Steven Fletcher’s 1st choice was to rejoin Hibs

Tam’s been saying a lot in the papers about hibs recently

I reckon he’s a bit salty after getting chopped from hibs tv

[GloryGlory]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1551893982011064323

Youan and Cabraja WPs issued, it seems.

[brog]

He lifted me a pie upon his shoulder 🎶🎶

:thumbsup:

[brog]

I renewed my passport 2 weeks ago...took a grand total of 7 days to arrive

The average wait time in UK is currently 10 weeks and 55k are delayed beyond that so you did well.

[Stuart93]

Paperwork done for youan and cabby

[Scotty Leither]

See Tam McManus is saying in the papers today, that Steven Fletcher’s 1st choice was to rejoin Hibs

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.

[Brightside]

See Tam McManus is saying in the papers today, that Steven Fletcher’s 1st choice was to rejoin Hibs

Tam is a fanny.

[CapitalGreen]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.

We’ve signed Marshall and McGeady suggesting that wouldn’t be a barrier to us signing him. But of course you already knew that.

More likely is that as we haven’t been able to move Doidge on, he’ll be our target man striker for this season.

[Gmack7]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.
He may well have never heard of him but I'm sure he gave it the go ahead. Bottom 6? not for me

[Brightside]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.

Limited first team experience? Have you actually read anything about him? Ridiculous post.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

We’ve signed Marshall and McGeady suggesting that wouldn’t be a barrier to us signing him. But of course you already knew that.

More likely is that as we haven’t been able to move Doidge on, he’ll be our target man striker for this season.

Or the manager preferred to have Doidge than Fletcher ?

[Willis1875]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.

We don’t know what sort of money Fletcher wanted and maybe he wanted to come in as first choice striker,we had already signed Youan to go with Doidge and Nisbet at that time

[jacomo]

Tam is a fanny.


Bit uncalled for, that.

[CapitalGreen]

Or the manager preferred to have Doidge than Fletcher ?

Not the impression I got from LJ. Hibs were approached by clubs from down South for Doidge and and it was Doidge who turned down the moves not the club.

I’ve no idea if we were interested in Fletcher or not.

[Unseen work]

I’m glad the club never signed Fletcher, purely down to what stoke fans were saying and how Johnson wants to play.

As a whole I think we’ve recruited to suit his style which can only benefit us if the players are good.

Would be a nightmare having a style and the vocal point of it being completely different to what you want.

[andrew70]

Not the impression I got from LJ. Hibs were approached by clubs from down South for Doidge and and it was Doidge who turned down the moves not the club.

I’ve no idea if we were interested in Fletcher or not.

Yes because of his missus is at uni here. He wanted United but Jack Ross didn’t want him as he was getting Fletch. I’d have happily swapped that.

[BlackSheep]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.

Every thread i read today has your negative opinion all over it... we get it, you dont have much confidence in the team we are putting together.

Take a break and sit back and wait for you to be proven wrong or right then come back and tell us 'you do us so'.... or on a brighter note, hold your hands up and say you're pleasantly surprised by how well we're doing.

[BlackSheep]

On the Fletcher topic, only time will tell how he will do back in Scotland.... Same goes for Shankland.... hell, same goes for all our new additions.

[Borderhibbie76]

Whether a happy clapper or a negative nana there is far too much bickering in this site and this thread too. Truth is nobody really knows how good/bad we are gonna be this season as we've barely seen enough of most of new signings yet. On Sunday we were missing 12 first team players - so let's just give the new guys a chance to bed in and the new manager. LC was a disaster but it's done now and we can only hope it becomes a bit if a watershed moment - I still hope we add a CB and a midfielder as feel these are 2 areas we badly need to strengthen in

[Aldo]

Yes because of his missus is at uni here. He wanted United but Jack Ross didn’t want him as he was getting Fletch. I’d have happily swapped that.

I wouldn’t. Least you know what you’re getting with Doidge!

I don’t doubt Fletcher is quality but he’s 6 years older than CD and I’m not sure he would fit into our high press game!


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[Onceinawhile]

I wouldn’t. Least you know what you’re getting with Doidge!

I don’t doubt Fletcher is quality but he’s 6 years older than CD and I’m not sure he would fit into our high press game!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is it exactly. Manager chose not to sign a player who won't be able to play the way he wants to. No big deal.

[jacomo]

On the Fletcher topic, only time will tell how he will do back in Scotland.... Same goes for Shankland.... hell, same goes for all our new additions.


Of course, but I’d have been up for seeing him back in a Hibs shirt. Quality player.

[Scotty Leither]

He may well have never heard of him but I'm sure he gave it the go ahead. Bottom 6? not for me

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.

[badabing67]

When does Rocky start his suspension and how many games will he miss

[CapitalGreen]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.

That’s not how transfer committees work 😂 they don’t have a vote on players with a majority deciding who signs.

[flash]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.
What a relentless positivity vacuum you are.

Look forward to the resale of Marshall and McGeady in a couple of years.

[CapitalGreen]

When does Rocky start his suspension and how many games will he miss

He’s not had his hearing yet, that happens in mid-August so we won’t know if he has any punishment until then.

[Callum_62]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.That right aye?

[emoji23][emoji23]

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[big gogs]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.
How do you know this.

[Fanforlife]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.
What a lot of crap.

[davhibby]

Fletcher would have been a really handy signing, doesn’t fit the bill of a potential sell-on value though, and I would imagine would have wanted a decent wedge.

See we’re now linked with another 20-year old with limited first-team experience, whom I bet the manager has never heard of either.

Bottom 6 for this team this season, I’m afraid.

Is 2 seasons of top flight experience and games in the copa libertadores limited experience now? I’d say that’s pretty solid experience for a 20 year old and better pedigree than someone that’s lugged around Leagues 1 and 2 in England.

I’d also be willing to bet that Fletcher won’t be better than any of our starting strikers this season.

[jacomo]

How do you know this.


It’s not facts that matter anymore, it’s how you feel.

[Dmas]

I’ve just saw that Callum Kane has signed for Tranent Juniors is that the guy who left us for Brentford B a couple season back?

[tamig]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.

You’re guessing all of this stuff to suit your never-ending negative agenda. Pure guesswork. As someone else mentioned, give it a rest and when you have some facts you can come back and share your wisdom.

[H18 SFR]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.

On a score of 1-10, how much do you truly hate Hibs?

[CapitalGreen]

I’ve just saw that Callum Kane has signed for Tranent Juniors is that the guy who left us for Brentford B a couple season back?

Kane O’Connor I think you mean, Yes it is.

[Dmas]

Kane O’Connor I think you mean, Yes it is.

Yes that’s it I saw on twitter a tweet from a Callum, quite a drop for the lad that, I remember him being very highly thought of at the time he left

[Ringothedog]

How do you know this.

He doesn’t, just made up nonsense from a poster who has nothing positive to say about our club

[SquashedFrogg]

That’s not how transfer committees work 😂 they don’t have a vote on players with a majority deciding who signs.

I did laugh at that myself. Clueless.

[Heisenberg]

It has been confirmed many times that Lee Johnson has final say on transfers and is leading recruitment. No manager would accept the job if there was a chance they could get landed with players they didnt want.

[sleeping giant]

Yes that’s it I saw on twitter a tweet from a Callum, quite a drop for the lad that, I remember him being very highly thought of at the time he left

Yip. Loads on here gutted when he left. Myself included.

[JimBHibees]

It has been confirmed many times that Lee Johnson has final say on transfers and is leading recruitment. No manager would accept the job if there was a chance they could get landed with players they didnt want.

He must have said that about twenty times since he arrived some are just desperate not to believe him.

[Callum_62]

It has been confirmed many times that Lee Johnson has final say on transfers and is leading recruitment. No manager would accept the job if there was a chance they could get landed with players they didnt want.Confirmed by whom though?

How would Lee Johnson know?

Scotty Leither is the subject matter expert here

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[HoboHarry]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.

Dearie me. :clown:

[Since452]

It has been confirmed many times that Lee Johnson has final say on transfers and is leading recruitment. No manager would accept the job if there was a chance they could get landed with players they didnt want.

As did Maloney. I don't get why people don't understand this. Do they really think a manager would willingly risk ruining their reputation by having someone sign players for them? Just isn't going to happen.

[Engels74]

Interesting article posted 5 months ago about 7 young Uruguayan primera players to watch and features Joaquin Sosa.

https://worldfootballindex.com/2022/03/uruguay-wonderkids-and-players-to-watch-in-2022/

[badabing67]

He’s not had his hearing yet, that happens in mid-August so we won’t know if he has any punishment until then.

Good at least he is available at the start of the season

[Hibbyradge]

He’d have had no choice but to give it the go ahead - even if he didn’t want him he’d have to go with the majority of the transfer “committee”.

:faf:

[Hibbyradge]

You’re guessing all of this stuff to suit your never-ending negative agenda. Pure guesswork. As someone else mentioned, give it a rest and when you have some facts you can come back and share your wisdom.

He's not guessing.

He's simply making it up.

[itslegaltender]

Interesting article posted 5 months ago about 7 young Uruguayan primera players to watch and features Joaquin Sosa.

https://worldfootballindex.com/2022/03/uruguay-wonderkids-and-players-to-watch-in-2022/



'Strong in defence, good in the air and boasting an impressive long passing game, 20-year-old Sosa will be a great addition to a side that puts a lot of faith in their youth.'

Perfect for us then.:wink:

[MikeyS]

Tam is a fanny.

That may be the case but he is right on this one. If Fletcher has the choice he would be a Hibs player again. Seems we weren't interested enough. No problem with that either, LJ obviously fancies the other forwards more

[Greencore]

It has been confirmed many times that Lee Johnson has final say on transfers and is leading recruitment. No manager would accept the job if there was a chance they could get landed with players they didnt want.
Actually his time at Sunderland, he didn't make the transfers according to a popular fans podcast.

[Hibs4185]

That may be the case but he is right on this one. If Fletcher has the choice he would be a Hibs player again. Seems we weren't interested enough. No problem with that either, LJ obviously fancies the other forwards more

I think LJ is prioritising speed and movement so maybe doesn’t fancy another older more direct player especially when we have Doidge already

[Springbank]

I think LJ is prioritising speed and movement so maybe doesn’t fancy another older more direct player especially when we have Doidge already

He's right to do that
Slow play is too easy for opponents to set up to defend against
A speed merchant changes the game

[J-C]

Actually his time at Sunderland, he didn't make the transfers according to a popular fans podcast.

That happened when Ross was there too, probably why they go through so many managers.

[PaulSmith]

It has been confirmed many times that Lee Johnson has final say on transfers and is leading recruitment. No manager would accept the job if there was a chance they could get landed with players they didnt want.

He’s certainly not leading on transfers. It’ll not be too dissimilar to how he operated at Sunderland.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/key-sunderland-figure-outlines-recruitment-strategy-that-will-surely-be-good-news-for-lee-johnson/

Seems like folk can’t get their heads around that clubs now have a strategy on recruitment and regardless of who is manager the club will stick to that strategy.

They’ll recruit a manager who is comfortable working under this structure.

The days of managers identifying players and then signing them, using the owners money, is long gone.

I’d also say that are plenty managers across the world who are simply the first team coach….here’s the squad and go make it work. If it doesn’t work then we’ll hire someone else.

[ian cruise]

He’s certainly not leading on transfers. It’ll not be too dissimilar to how he operated at Sunderland.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/key-sunderland-figure-outlines-recruitment-strategy-that-will-surely-be-good-news-for-lee-johnson/

Seems like folk can’t get their heads around that clubs now have a strategy on recruitment and regardless of who is manager the club will stick to that strategy.

They’ll recruit a manager who is comfortable working under this structure.

The days of managers identifying players and then signing them, using the owners money, is long gone.

I’d also say that are plenty managers across the world who are simply the first team coach….here’s the squad and go make it work. If it doesn’t work then we’ll hire someone else.

No one is saying Johnson is identifying all the targets himself, quite the opposite, but he does get final say on the deal. There's no situation where Johnson says he doesn't want a player but other members on the committee overrule him and he's signed without Johnson consent.

[Brightside]

That may be the case but he is right on this one. If Fletcher has the choice he would be a Hibs player again. Seems we weren't interested enough. No problem with that either, LJ obviously fancies the other forwards more

Correct. But again no need for Tam to “write” this stuff every week. Must be easier ways to earn £50.

[PaulSmith]

No one is saying Johnson is identifying all the targets himself, quite the opposite, but he does get final say on the deal. There's no situation where Johnson says he doesn't want a player but other members on the committee overrule him and he's signed without Johnson consent.

The poster I quoted said he was leading on recruitment, that’s why I questioned that.

LJ - I need a new left back
IG - Here’s a choice of three that we’ve identified and Ben has done all the work to agree a deal. We reckon that they’ll improve the first team and more importantly generate income for the club. Take a look at them and tell us which one.
LJ - ok, go for player A

I suspect the above will be far, far closer to what actually happens than some of us care to admit. I’m not sure why though, that’s just how clubs operate these days.

[CapitalGreen]

The poster I quoted said he was leading on recruitment, that’s why I questioned that.

LJ - I need a new left back
IG - Here’s a choice of three that we’ve identified and Ben has done all the work to agree a deal. We reckon that they’ll improve the first team and more importantly generate income for the club. Take a look at them and tell us which one.
LJ - ok, go for player A

I suspect the above will be far, far closer to what actually happens than some of us care to admit. I’m not sure why though, that’s just how clubs operate these days.

That’s what I would expect to happen and will be similar to most bigger clubs nowadays, I’m not sure why anyone would be afraid to admit it. The manager states what he is after and has final say on who is signed, I would describe that as leading recruitment in the context of a modern football club. There will still be scope within such a model for managers to sign players who they themselves can recommend like Johnson did with McGeady or Carl Winchester while at Sunderland.

[Heisenberg]

That’s what I would expect to happen and will be similar to most bigger clubs nowadays, I’m not sure why anyone would be afraid to admit it. The manager states what he is after and has final say on who is signed, I would describe that as leading recruitment in the context of a modern football club. There will still be scope within such a model for managers to sign players who they themselves can recommend like Johnson did with McGeady or Carl Winchester while at Sunderland.

Yeah that is pretty much what I thought in terms of the process. A fair bit away from him getting told who he’s signing and being landed with players if he’s out voted by the “committee” as per Scotty’s post.

[matty_f]

The poster I quoted said he was leading on recruitment, that’s why I questioned that.

LJ - I need a new left back
IG - Here’s a choice of three that we’ve identified and Ben has done all the work to agree a deal. We reckon that they’ll improve the first team and more importantly generate income for the club. Take a look at them and tell us which one.
LJ - ok, go for player A

I suspect the above will be far, far closer to what actually happens than some of us care to admit. I’m not sure why though, that’s just how clubs operate these days.
I think that’s probably the case with the caveat that if LJ said “actually, can you have a look at player D who i know and think will suit us?” then we’d invest the time in trying to sign that player.

[Iain G]

I think that’s probably the case with the caveat that if LJ said “actually, can you have a look at player D who i know and think will suit us?” then we’d invest the time in trying to sign that player.

And then the committee vote on it? 😉😁

[flash]

https://twitter.com/Sport890/status/1551970203445125122?t=ypJI-RKeSe_tbTktACSfBQ&s=19

Wee update.

[BoomtownHibees]

https://twitter.com/Sport890/status/1551970203445125122?t=ypJI-RKeSe_tbTktACSfBQ&s=19

Wee update.

One of the quotes:

“Tomorrow I play the final. My contract is paid by Liverpool. I still have not confirmed my departure to Scotland. I know there is interest, it makes me happy that the opportunity presents itself to me”

[flash]

One of the quotes:

“Tomorrow I play the final. My contract is paid by Liverpool. I still have not confirmed my departure to Scotland. I know there is interest, it makes me happy that the opportunity presents itself to me”

Yeah looks like it's very likely to happen.

[hibbie02]

https://twitter.com/Sport890/status/1551970203445125122?t=ypJI-RKeSe_tbTktACSfBQ&s=19

Wee update.

The boy has that Alan Sneddon look about him…


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[JohnM1875]

See that Elliot Anderson starts for Newcastle in their preseason game against Benfica. Didn't really think there was a chance we'd get him on loan.

[jacomo]

One of the quotes:

“Tomorrow I play the final. My contract is paid by Liverpool. I still have not confirmed my departure to Scotland. I know there is interest, it makes me happy that the opportunity presents itself to me”


What a well spoken young man.

:wink:

[AlbertK86]

I think that’s probably the case with the caveat that if LJ said “actually, can you have a look at player D who i know and think will suit us?” then we’d invest the time in trying to sign that player.

That’s exactly what LJ said. Both recruitment team and he and his coaching team ID players then it gets discussed by the committee.

Suspect he was the one that identified Reuben McAllister as opposed to Ian Gordon


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[BoomtownHibees]

That’s exactly what LJ said. Both recruitment team and he and his coaching team ID players then it gets discussed by the committee.

Suspect he was the one that identified Reuben McAllister as opposed to Ian Gordon


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His Dad being assistant may have helped with that one

[bingo70]

His Dad being assistant may have helped with that one

Yeah but that doesn’t really fit the narrative that players are signed and forced upon the management team by big bad Ian Gordon.

[BoomtownHibees]

Yeah but that doesn’t really fit the narrative that players are signed and forced upon the management team by big bad Ian Gordon.

My post was more aimed at the “identifying” part 😁

[AlbertK86]

His Dad being assistant may have helped with that one

Exactly my point … coaching team as opposed to Ian Gordon and recruitment team


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[BoomtownHibees]

Exactly my point … coaching team as opposed to Ian Gordon and recruitment team


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Sorry my post was meant to be tongue in cheek around you saying LJ would have identified the assistants son

Poor attempt at humour 😩

[Cardinal G]

Actually his time at Sunderland, he didn't make the transfers according to a popular fans podcast.

Thats very true. An example was Defoe, he made it clear he didnt want him, yet the day after he was sacked he signed.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I see Luis Suarez is signing for the lads parent club, Nacional. Gives an idea of the size of the club we are dealing with 🇺🇾

[Renfrew_Hibby]

I see Luis Suarez is signing for the lads parent club, Nacional. Gives an idea of the size of the club we are dealing with 🇺🇾

Nacional = the Huns of Uruguay

[JammyDoidger]

Aberdeen sign Hayden Coulson on loan from Middlesbrough.