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Hibiza
15-07-2022, 07:39 PM
7 or 8 places above us?
Gies peace.
Very unlikely , however the fellas basing his comments probably on our " star " midfield of Jdh , Campbell and Newell ,- a midfield to put any team down.
degenerated
15-07-2022, 07:59 PM
The last four words of your post….been affecting me more and more as I get into my 40’s.:hilarious
Springbank
15-07-2022, 08:17 PM
Very unlikely , however the fellas basing his comments probably on our " star " midfield of Jdh , Campbell and Newell ,- a midfield to put any team down.
Yep that unbeaten run at the start of last season when mcgennis was fit saved us in the end
After mcgennis dropped out we must have been 10th to 12th in the form table, Nov to May
cabbageandribs1875
15-07-2022, 08:28 PM
leeds will rake in approx £105m in fees for Kalvin Philips and Raphinha
they're really gonna miss kalvin philips in the middle
Erikson joins man u on a free for 3 years
jacomo
15-07-2022, 08:28 PM
Although I think we still need another attacking midfielder I think Henderson will be huge for us this season.
Last year he came in after not playing in ages and done well, with a bit more luck/sharpness he genuinely could have got double figures due to the positions he found himself in.
Even this season so far he scored against Hartlepool, played a brilliant ball to Campbell for Doidge’s goal against Burton and then got an assist against Clyde. Against Falkirk he came on and had a shot off the line and then another off the bar.
A lot of ifs buts and maybes but I honestly think we’ll see him score and create alot this season, also seemed to look stronger and half a yard quicker.
I hope so. I’ve not really seen it as yet, but we know he’s highly rated.
Doesn’t address our issues in central midfield but an in form Ewan Henderson would be very welcome.
jacomo
15-07-2022, 08:30 PM
leeds will rake in approx £105m in fees for Kalvin Philips and Raphinha
they're really gonna miss kalvin philips in the middle
They will miss them both massively I think.
Critical that they recruit well as they are likely to be in a relegation dog fight again this season.
cabbageandribs1875
15-07-2022, 08:40 PM
They will miss them both massively I think.
Critical that they recruit well as they are likely to be in a relegation dog fight again this season.
i see the 49ers are expected to buy out Radrizzani for £400m by 24, inc the stadium, not bad seeing as Radz bought them for just £45m in 17
on relagtion imo Fulham and Bournemouth will already be fav's to go straight back down
Smartie
15-07-2022, 08:45 PM
Kenneh has probably spooked us more than he should by taking a couple of heavy touches in the Clyde game. His pedigree is certainly excellent.
Would a midfield 3 of Kenneh, Stevenson and Henderson not have a decent bit of everything?
Front 3 of Melkerson, Doidge (or Youan or Bojang) and McGeady and we're looking half decent.
Just need the Crotian left back to be fit and ready asap and then to figure out what is happening at CH - Porto staying or going, Hanlon going to be fit, can we really trust either McLelland or Rocky and is anyone else going to come in?
Then - what happens when we get injuries and suspensions?
Hibiza
15-07-2022, 08:47 PM
Greg Docherty. Hull ,- he'd bring some attacking class .
I sometimes don't believe what I read even if I've written it!
Beat that!
Trumped my ace 😞
cameronw-hfc
15-07-2022, 09:04 PM
Greg Docherty. Hull ,- he'd bring some attacking class .
They'd want a mill at least for him. We won't pay close to what they want. He's well liked down south
JamesHFC
15-07-2022, 10:22 PM
Barcelona signing Lewandowski, I don’t know how they are financially pulling all these deals off 😂
BegbieHSC
15-07-2022, 10:46 PM
Barcelona signing Lewandowski, I don’t know how they are financially pulling all these deals off 😂
They’ll he known as “The Barcelona” within two years. 4 year deal for a 34 year old - €20m a year salary. €50m up front fee for a player out of contract at the end of the season. Absolute madness!!
Haymaker
15-07-2022, 11:42 PM
They’ll he known as “The Barcelona” within two years. 4 year deal for a 34 year old - €20m a year salary. €50m up front fee for a player out of contract at the end of the season. Absolute madness!!
And yet owe De Jong $17m?!
OldEast
16-07-2022, 02:34 AM
Has he only got one eye?
The left one 👀
Hibernian Verse
16-07-2022, 04:16 AM
Disclaimer that I might be absolutely wrong but we didn’t attack a team from December onwards. Lucky victory over Aberdeen in the bleak mid-winter and scraped past St Mirren to secure our top flight status.
LJ will bring attacking football I trust we will be top six. Only need top 5 for Euro football we will get that.
MWHIBBIES
16-07-2022, 04:31 AM
Which big games?
He’s also had a few howlers in big games as well including his sending offs.
Yup. Big games have certainly often brought out his worst moments.
Which big games have had his worst moments?
His best 2 games for Hibs were in the 0-0 draw with Hearts under Maloney and the 3-1 Hampden win over Rangers. Absolutely excellent in both.
Paulie Walnuts
16-07-2022, 05:50 AM
Which big games have had his worst moments?
His best 2 games for Hibs were in the 0-0 draw with Hearts under Maloney and the 3-1 Hampden win over Rangers. Absolutely excellent in both.
He’s been sent off twice against Rangers, once against Aberdeen and also retrospectively suspended from an incident during a game against Aberdeen
I also didn’t think he was great in the LC final against Celtic. There may well be more as well but that’s 5 for starters.
Since452
16-07-2022, 05:57 AM
Disclaimer that I might be absolutely wrong but we didn’t attack a team from December onwards. Lucky victory over Aberdeen in the bleak mid-winter and scraped past St Mirren to secure our top flight status.
LJ will bring attacking football I trust we will be top six. Only need top 5 for Euro football we will get that.
The Hearts semi final was by far Maloney's best game. I'm not sure if that was down to him or the players had just had enough and did their own thing. The manager has to get credit I guess. Ultimately we lost another game of football. Twice in the space of a week to them. The Maloney period is up there with my worst supporting Hibs. Unlikeable players, a manager I just didn't get and dreadful possession football going nowhere.
Paulie Walnuts
16-07-2022, 06:11 AM
The Hearts semi final was by far Maloney's best game. I'm not sure if that was down to him or the players had just had enough and did their own thing. The manager has to get credit I guess. Ultimately we lost another game of football. Twice in the space of a week to them. The Maloney period is up there with my worst supporting Hibs. Unlikeable players, a manager I just didn't get and dreadful possession football going nowhere.
I thought the DU game at Tannadice and the Motherwell game at Fir Park were both better than that. Likewise the Celtic game at ER where I thought we were unlucky not to win.
Also thought we done well at Arbroath. I know you disliked him but I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say his best game was a defeat at Hampden to Hearts :greengrin
hibbyfraelibby
16-07-2022, 07:04 AM
Did he go in two footed?
Dived in the box...
S4uzee
16-07-2022, 07:25 AM
Which big games have had his worst moments?
His best 2 games for Hibs were in the 0-0 draw with Hearts under Maloney and the 3-1 Hampden win over Rangers. Absolutely excellent in both.
Allowed rangers back into the game at hampden with a poor clearance
Greenworld
16-07-2022, 08:06 AM
I would personally sell porteous for what we can get now if the comments on here are true that he is rejecting even a conversation on signing.
It's not what I heard and expected him to sign the new deal before now. Things change however so if he has decided not to sign get him sold for as close to 1 million as we can get .
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JimBHibees
16-07-2022, 08:09 AM
Allowed rangers back into the game at hampden with a poor clearance
But was excellent otherwise
BILLYHIBS
16-07-2022, 08:33 AM
Thought it poor that he kept trying to get Falkirk players booked
Not the Hibs way ! 😁
Needs to knuckle down prove himself all over again and cut out all the rash silliness and stupid mistakes
He is not as good as he thinks he is but I am convinced there is a future Hibs Captain in there somewhere
Would bite your hand off for a decent offer now
Hibbyradge
16-07-2022, 08:41 AM
But was excellent otherwise
That's how it works though.
If he's a fans' favourite, a couple of mistakes are understandable and tolerated, even if one leads to a goal against.
Unnecessary spendings off, retrospective bans for stamping and social incidents are all excused and defended.
If it's Rocky (substitute anyone out of favour) one mistake, regardless of the outcome, and he should never be seen in a Hibs shirt again.
He's a very good player, and he should be a huge asset, but people are tiring of Ryan Porteous and understandably so.
Hibs4185
16-07-2022, 08:55 AM
Porteous is different class to a point. He has the skill to beat a man and make that extra yard or space. He also strides out of defence in the same way Efe did. He can ping a pass and find his man most of the time.
Unfortunately I think his ego is maybe getting the better of him which leads to the silly mistakes which then leads to the moment of madness. Without the attitude and stupidity he’d be miles ahead of Souttar.
He could be a phenomenal player and personally I think we will be stronger this season with him than without him (if he’s not suspended).
He will no doubt leave for nothing and get a good weekly wage but to do so he will need to have a strong season, which is good for Hibs!
McGruber
16-07-2022, 09:04 AM
We can't afford to lose Porteous now given the club is banned from signing centre backs
SlickShoes
16-07-2022, 09:14 AM
Kenneh has probably spooked us more than he should by taking a couple of heavy touches in the Clyde game. His pedigree is certainly excellent.
Would a midfield 3 of Kenneh, Stevenson and Henderson not have a decent bit of everything?
Front 3 of Melkerson, Doidge (or Youan or Bojang) and McGeady and we're looking half decent.
Just need the Crotian left back to be fit and ready asap and then to figure out what is happening at CH - Porto staying or going, Hanlon going to be fit, can we really trust either McLelland or Rocky and is anyone else going to come in?
Then - what happens when we get injuries and suspensions?
The fact that people are going on about heavy touches is ridiculous in itself, there appears to be no margin for error at Hibs unless you are a fan favourite like Porteous.
flash
16-07-2022, 09:18 AM
The fact that people are going on about heavy touches is ridiculous in itself, there appears to be no margin for error at Hibs unless you are a fan favourite like Porteous.
Porto is getting absolutely slammed by several posters on the forum so I wouldn't say he is getting much margin for error right now either.
WeeRussell
16-07-2022, 09:30 AM
That's how it works though.
If he's a fans' favourite, a couple of mistakes are understandable and tolerated, even if one leads to a goal against.
Unnecessary spendings off, retrospective bans for stamping and social incidents are all excused and defended.
If it's Rocky (substitute anyone out of favour) one mistake, regardless of the outcome, and he should never be seen in a Hibs shirt again.
He's a very good player, and he should be a huge asset, but people are tiring of Ryan Porteous and understandably so.
Absolutely spot on, particularly the stuff in relation to other players and criticism.
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 09:50 AM
Porto is getting absolutely slammed by several posters on the forum so I wouldn't say he is getting much margin for error right now either.
Can’t believe some of the comments I’ve been reading about him in the last couple of days. Many of them about his character rather than footballing ability. Mental. Some folk seem determined to talk up the poor players by talking down the half decent players for some reason.
flash
16-07-2022, 09:54 AM
Can’t believe some of the comments I’ve been reading about him in the last couple of days. Many of them about his character rather than footballing ability. Mental. Some folk seem determined to talk up the poor players by talking down the half decent players for some reason.
I really want him to stay as I doubt we could get better but if his own support have joined in the bashing I totally get why he would want out.
SlickShoes
16-07-2022, 09:57 AM
Can’t believe some of the comments I’ve been reading about him in the last couple of days. Many of them about his character rather than footballing ability. Mental. Some folk seem determined to talk up the poor players by talking down the half decent players for some reason.
He makes the same mistakes others make sometimes worse and is immune from being criticised the majority of the time. It’s not a shock that people are finally being a bit more critical of his game when he hasn’t cut this stuff out as he’s got a bit older and more experienced.
He’s still a good player, but if we are going to get on at someone like Kenneh for a couple of heavy touches then Ryan deserves criticism for his play too.
SlickShoes
16-07-2022, 09:59 AM
I really want him to stay as I doubt we could get better but if his own support have joined in the bashing I totally get why he would want out.
It’s not bashing though, we just want him to stop getting sent off, stop passing it to the opposition and be a bit more level headed, he’s a passionate player but there’s a point where he goes too far and losing him for 4 games at a time costs us big time.
What about other players just in the door already being criticised ? Should they understandably want out as well?
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 09:59 AM
He makes the same mistakes others make sometimes worse and is immune from being criticised the majority of the time. It’s not a shock that people are finally being a bit more critical of his game when he hasn’t cut this stuff out as he’s got a bit older and more experienced.
He’s still a good player, but if we are going to get on at someone like Kenneh for a couple of heavy touches then Ryan deserves criticism for his play too.
He’s not immune from being criticised, just look at the last few pages of this thread. Some of the stuff about him being ‘Billy Big Baws’ and a liability and stuff like that is ridiculous.
BlackSheep
16-07-2022, 10:00 AM
Barcelona signing Lewandowski, I don’t know how they are financially pulling all these deals off 😂
Barca just sold 10% of their TV rights for a cool £240M…. That will stabilise them for a bit….
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 10:02 AM
He makes the same mistakes others make sometimes worse and is immune from being criticised the majority of the time. It’s not a shock that people are finally being a bit more critical of his game when he hasn’t cut this stuff out as he’s got a bit older and more experienced.
He’s still a good player, but if we are going to get on at someone like Kenneh for a couple of heavy touches then Ryan deserves criticism for his play too.
The criticism, or more so the “Billy big baws” stuff and the “not as good as he thinks” stuff only seems to have started since folk realised he might not sign a contract extension which is weird, but maybe predictable
SlickShoes
16-07-2022, 10:02 AM
He’s not immune from being criticised, just look at the last few pages of this thread. Some of the stuff about him being ‘Billy Big Baws’ and a liability and stuff like that is ridiculous.
Ok a few pages of a thread with some criticism and it’s understandable he should get out of toxic hibs but for other players they should just take the constant criticism and boos and get better instead of being crap.
superfurryhibby
16-07-2022, 10:02 AM
If we don't sign more players in the key positions where we are lacking then it's going to be a tough old season.
Central midfielder and a Centre half are essential. Having taken in six million in transfer fees this year, I would imagine we have a budget which will allow the manager to bring in some good experienced players with the necessary quality in these key areas.
I'm sure the Gordon's know that this season is going to be a huge indicator of the direction the club is heading and that fans are fully expectant that they will invest the money from the sale of what were valuable assets. Other wise they will truly learn the meaning of fickle.
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 10:09 AM
Ok a few pages of a thread with some criticism and it’s understandable he should get out of toxic hibs but for other players they should just take the constant criticism and boos and get better instead of being crap.
Na, they should all endeavour to be better. Porteous included.
I don’t think there happens to be anything toxic about us either. People just generally call what they see.
Heisenberg
16-07-2022, 10:12 AM
If we don't sign more players in the key positions where we are lacking then it's going to be a tough old season.
Central midfielder and a Centre half are essential. Having taken in six million in transfer fees this year, I would imagine we have a budget which will allow the manager to bring in some good experienced players with the necessary quality in these key areas.
I'm sure the Gordon's know that this season is going to be a huge indicator of the direction the club is heading and that fans are fully expectant that they will invest the money from the sale of what were valuable assets. Other wise they will truly learn the meaning of fickle.
Aberdeen have certainly gone about reinvesting in players after selling for two big fees. Nearly £2m spent in transfer fees alone. I don’t think we need to do similar but a couple of bigger signings in the areas you mention would be good.
BK said the Doig fee would be reinvested into the squad. Let’s see what happens.
Smartie
16-07-2022, 10:18 AM
Porto is getting absolutely slammed by several posters on the forum so I wouldn't say he is getting much margin for error right now either.
The thing about Porto is that it looks like it should be so effortlessly easy to cut out the daft stuff and improve into being an absolutely top player. You've got players who you're getting just about as much as you're ever going to get (Paul McGinn?) and it frustrates when you've got ones who look like they could and should be better.
For all his imperfections he's still a cracking player - and I didn't love what we looked like without him during the first half.
We've discussed the midfield a lot this week - CH has the potential to be a key area for us as well. Porto stays, Hanlon gets fit, Rocky gets a few games and a good summer under his belt, we maybe add one more - it all looks good. Porto moves on, Hanlon struggles to get over his injury and surgery, Rocky continues to have folk on his back turning him into a bag of nerves, we don't add - and it could be pretty scary.
Juniper Greens
16-07-2022, 10:28 AM
Keep clicking on hear hoping to see a transfer update, but instead see arguments about our current squad.
superfurryhibby
16-07-2022, 10:31 AM
Keep clicking on hear hoping to see a transfer update, but instead see arguments about our current squad.
Why don't you give your views on the merits of the current team, maybe offer an opinion on where we need to strengthen then?
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 10:35 AM
It’s not bashing though, we just want him to stop getting sent off, stop passing it to the opposition and be a bit more level headed, he’s a passionate player but there’s a point where he goes too far and losing him for 4 games at a time costs us big time.
What about other players just in the door already being criticised ? Should they understandably want out as well?
He has stopped being sent off, when was the last time he was sent off?
Paulie Walnuts
16-07-2022, 10:37 AM
If we don't sign more players in the key positions where we are lacking then it's going to be a tough old season.
Central midfielder and a Centre half are essential. Having taken in six million in transfer fees this year, I would imagine we have a budget which will allow the manager to bring in some good experienced players with the necessary quality in these key areas.
I'm sure the Gordon's know that this season is going to be a huge indicator of the direction the club is heading and that fans are fully expectant that they will invest the money from the sale of what were valuable assets. Other wise they will truly learn the meaning of fickle.
Agree.
A centre mid thats able to start games and a centre half are musts if we want to have a chance of challenging for 3rd/4th imo.
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 10:41 AM
He has stopped being sent off, when was the last time he was sent off?
March, against Aberdeen. Not for a punching anyone or anything like that, just a last ditch attempt to try and stop the opposition scoring a goal.
HUTCHYHIBBY
16-07-2022, 10:43 AM
According to The Sun on BBC Gossip Column Forfar have knocked back the opportunity to sign Griffiths.
CL0762
16-07-2022, 10:44 AM
We’ve still got a lot of players missing.
Hanlon, Mitchell, Magennis, Nisbet, Cabraja, Tavares, Youan - the first 5 are easily first team starters IMO. Hopefully Youan & Jair can show the same once they’re settled.
I still think we need a centre half to compensate for Hanlon’s more recent spells of injury & also for any instances of indiscipline from
Porteous. Whilst I like the look of McLelland, I wouldn’t want to see him playing too often from the start.
Midfield, I’m unsure of as I reckon Johnson’s preferred system will accommodate 2 central midfielders (4-2-3-1) and it’ll be 2 from Kenneh, Newell, JDH & Campbell. The latter 3 are all very samey though and that’s the problem, all safe on the ball rather take the easy option than a riskier one so identifying a midfielder who’s happy to take the ball off the defence and drive us 15/20 yards up the park is essential. Someone with the same attributes (obviously not at the level) as McGinn would be an absolute godsend in this team I reckon.
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 10:46 AM
March, against Aberdeen. Not for a punching anyone or anything like that, just a last ditch attempt to try and stop the opposition scoring a goal.
I did know that. :greengrin The thing is, we wont know if he will get sent off again until it happens, and harping on about previous sending offs mean nowt.
flash
16-07-2022, 11:18 AM
It’s not bashing though, we just want him to stop getting sent off, stop passing it to the opposition and be a bit more level headed, he’s a passionate player but there’s a point where he goes too far and losing him for 4 games at a time costs us big time.
What about other players just in the door already being criticised ? Should they understandably want out as well?
He gets stuff about his off field stuff that nobody else does.
We have had two players done for drink driving barely without a ripple on here in the recent past.
Paulie Walnuts
16-07-2022, 11:24 AM
He gets stuff about his off field stuff that nobody else does.
We have had two players done for drink driving barely without a ripple on here in the recent past.
There was 212 posts on a thread on the subject of Boyles drink driving.
Sorry to be that guy :greengrin
tonyrougier123
16-07-2022, 11:54 AM
Porteous is different class to a point. He has the skill to beat a man and make that extra yard or space. He also strides out of defence in the same way Efe did. He can ping a pass and find his man most of the time.
Unfortunately I think his ego is maybe getting the better of him which leads to the silly mistakes which then leads to the moment of madness. Without the attitude and stupidity he’d be miles ahead of Souttar.
He could be a phenomenal player and personally I think we will be stronger this season with him than without him (if he’s not suspended).
He will no doubt leave for nothing and get a good weekly wage but to do so he will need to have a strong season, which is good for Hibs!
Devils advocate here about Ryan porteous.
So I watched the mic’d up bit and it looked really good,having someone talking players through the game.
But on the flip side the barking at the strikers in that game didn’t really pay off for us.
Fast forward to the burton game,I felt we looked a more fluid team and strikers played much better in the half porteous was not in the starting eleven.
Especially melkerson who was superb in that match.
First pick for me Ryan no contest btw,but maybe less barking at the forwards because it might not be working.
He can chew the midfield though 😑.
Brightside
16-07-2022, 12:17 PM
The fact that people are going on about heavy touches is ridiculous in itself, there appears to be no margin for error at Hibs unless you are a fan favourite like Porteous.
Agreed. He was excellent v Clyde.
OldEast
16-07-2022, 12:24 PM
Devils advocate here about Ryan porteous.
So I watched the mic’d up bit and it looked really good,having someone talking players through the game.
But on the flip side the barking at the strikers in that game didn’t really pay off for us.
Fast forward to the burton game,I felt we looked a more fluid team and strikers played much better in the half porteous was not in the starting eleven.
Especially melkerson who was superb in that match.
First pick for me Ryan no contest btw,but maybe less barking at the forwards because it might not be working.
He can chew the midfield though 😑.
I've long been an advocate of a talkative captain. Especially for marshalling the defence. In fact if a team has an experienced keeper he should be captain in my opinion.
I have no problem with Porteous being our captain but is there a happy medium to be found? Listening to him when mic'd up I just wondered if he was a bit relentless with the chat and might start to intimidate team mates at all?
mjhibby
16-07-2022, 12:32 PM
Whether folk like it or not this board is toxic. With constant stream of negative posts. A lot of us who used to post regularly just come on ocassionally now and the bounce is far less negative than on here. It sucks the life out of the love of our great club. Maybe have seperate areas for negative comments to give my brain a rest. Fwiw i think we need three more players. A ch ( two if porto goes),a dominant centre mid and striker. If we get three ready to go experienced players we will be up near third. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but its brain numbing the level of negativity on here. Only the dons id say were worse imho.
bigwheel
16-07-2022, 12:32 PM
I've long been an advocate of a talkative captain. Especially for marshalling the defence. In fact if a team has an experienced keeper he should be captain in my opinion.
I have no problem with Porteous being our captain but is there a happy medium to be found? Listening to him when mic'd up I just wondered if he was a bit relentless with the chat and might start to intimidate team mates at all?
There’s little difference between micd up Porto and almost every lead central defender in our league. That’s what it’s like at that level ..
sleeping giant
16-07-2022, 12:35 PM
I would love Porto to sign a new deal but if he doesn't, I would move him on this window.
I don't think he's experienced or mature enough to be our captain and the mic"d up thing done nothing to change my mind.
tonyrougier123
16-07-2022, 12:38 PM
I've long been an advocate of a talkative captain. Especially for marshalling the defence. In fact if a team has an experienced keeper he should be captain in my opinion.
I have no problem with Porteous being our captain but is there a happy medium to be found? Listening to him when mic'd up I just wondered if he was a bit relentless with the chat and might start to intimidate team mates at all?
Totally agree,just an opinion ofcourse I only comment on what I see and give my thoughts on it.
I do feel melkerson played a lot more freely in the burton game,maybe not a consequence of porteous shouting,but there was a difference in his game.
Totally agree,just an opinion ofcourse I only comment on what I see and give my thoughts on it.
I do feel melkerson played a lot more freely in the burton game,maybe not a consequence of porteous shouting,but there was a difference in his game.
not all players react optimally to someone shouting and bawling at them. Some will retreat into themselves, others will just get pissed off and distracted. There’s so much more to a captain than bollocking teammates, especially if you’ve delivered a crappy pass to them in the first place
tonyrougier123
16-07-2022, 12:45 PM
not all players react optimally to someone shouting and bawling at them. Some will retreat into themselves, others will just get pissed off and distracted. There’s so much more to a captain than bollocking teammates, especially if you’ve delivered a crappy pass to them in the first place
Aye doesny work for every player for sure,better to let your more creative types to think for themselves or be less shouty in your approach to them.
Borderhibbie76
16-07-2022, 12:51 PM
Whether folk like it or not this board is toxic. With constant stream of negative posts. A lot of us who used to post regularly just come on ocassionally now and the bounce is far less negative than on here. It sucks the life out of the love of our great club. Maybe have seperate areas for negative comments to give my brain a rest. Fwiw i think we need three more players. A ch ( two if porto goes),a dominant centre mid and striker. If we get three ready to go experienced players we will be up near third. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but its brain numbing the level of negativity on here. Only the dons id say were worse imho.
It really is brutal, I'm another who doesn't come in here much anymore as its a real toxic environment - feels like some just love it when Hibs get beat and they have something to moan about.
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 01:22 PM
I watched the piece on Porto mic'd up, and he was giving instructions and letting players know what to do, then one gave him a bit of back chat, he replied with dont tut at me.
Now that to me says the player tutting does not like being told what to do from his captain.
Now i only saw that, if there's more i'd like to see it, to see if there is more to this than i have seen.
ahibby
16-07-2022, 01:27 PM
I watched the piece on Porto mic'd up, and he was giving instructions and letting players know what to do, then one gave him a bit of back chat, he replied with dont tut at me.
Now that to me says the player tutting does not like being told what to do from his captain.
Now i only saw that, if there's more i'd like to see it, to see if there is more to this than i have seen.
That was Melkerson and I dont blame him. Being coached by someone with their badges is fine but by a big laddie in CB with not much more experience and talking p&^%$, isnt right.
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 01:28 PM
That was Melkerson and I dont blame him. Being coached by someone with their badges is fine but by a big laddie in CB with not much more experience and talking p&^%$, isnt right.
This is just nonsense
ahibby
16-07-2022, 01:31 PM
This is just nonsense
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
HendoDelivered
16-07-2022, 01:32 PM
That was Melkerson and I dont blame him. Being coached by someone with their badges is fine but by a big laddie in CB with not much more experience and talking p&^%$, isnt right.
Wtf 😂😂
Or he’s just trying to show some leadership/captaincy skills, whilst commanding respect doing so… as a leader/captain should.
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 01:35 PM
That was Melkerson and I dont blame him. Being coached by someone with their badges is fine but by a big laddie in CB with not much more experience and talking p&^%$, isnt right.
Nah, i agree with the others above.
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 01:36 PM
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
I couldn’t give a **** who you have played with, your point is nonsense
keep the faith
16-07-2022, 01:38 PM
I've long been an advocate of a talkative captain. Especially for marshalling the defence. In fact if a team has an experienced keeper he should be captain in my opinion.
I have no problem with Porteous being our captain but is there a happy medium to be found? Listening to him when mic'd up I just wondered if he was a bit relentless with the chat and might start to intimidate team mates at all?
Seeing David Marshall at close range in the Portugal games i have no doubt he should be captain
Talked the defence through the game constantly and always positive. A real leader.
bigwheel
16-07-2022, 01:41 PM
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
Then you would know there was zero wrong with Porto in that clip . Doing exactly what you’d expect of him as a leader on the park and everything he said was absolutely what a manager would hope …melkersons petty response needed told - nothing wrong with it at all ..an exchange that both of them won’t even give two thoughts about now …
MWHIBBIES
16-07-2022, 01:42 PM
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
This really is rubbish. Its pretty clear Melkersen wasn't doing something that had been discussed before the match and Ryan told him to so. There really was nothing in it from either of them, just Ryan trying to get Elias to concentrate and make the run. Doubt Melkersen was even upset or unhappy with Ryan at all, probably just frustrated with himself.
Allant1981
16-07-2022, 01:55 PM
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
Rubbish, as a coach/manager you would always want your more experienced players talking to guys with less experience during the game, i played for years and always had more experienced players talking through the game, very similar to porteous and melkersen. What premier league team did you play for
Hibbyradge
16-07-2022, 02:00 PM
So you don’t think a captain/leader on the park should be giving orders or providing advice to others because they don’t have their coaching badges?
You're right, there has to be guidance offered by the more experienced players, but "Don't you tut at me" isn't coaching and doesn't help the team in any way.
Libby Hibby
16-07-2022, 02:09 PM
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
Have you, aye?
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 02:15 PM
You're right, there has to be guidance offered by the more experienced players, but "Don't you tut at me" isn't coaching and doesn't help the team in any way.
Yet I guess that’s one of the more tame things said between players on a football pitch. No idea why this “don’t tut” comment is getting so much focus. Well I do actually, it’s because of who said it
Hibbyradge
16-07-2022, 02:17 PM
Well I do actually, it’s because of who said it
Who else was mic'd up?
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 02:21 PM
Who else was mic'd up?
Nobody as far as I know
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 02:23 PM
I played at a reasonable level, not professional but we did get a little brown envelope after each game. :greengrin
And if my captain had said dont tut at me, after the game he'd have been slaughtered by the rest of us for using the word tut, but we'd all know what he meant when he said it.
WestEndHibee
16-07-2022, 02:25 PM
Transfer thread...
Hibbyradge
16-07-2022, 02:26 PM
Nobody as far as I know
Exactly.
Had someone else been, we'd be able to comment on what they said instead, but we can only talk about Ryan's remarks.
He's not being treated unfairly.
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 02:30 PM
Exactly.
Had someone else been, we'd be able to comment on what they said instead, but we can only talk about Ryan's remarks.
He's not being treated unfairly.
He’s being treated unfairly because what he said doesn’t warrant it even being mentioned. It means nothing and is tame in comparison to a lot of other stuff that is said between players. Neither player involved will even remember this exchange
If it was someone other than Porteous, we wouldn’t still be taking about it, or if we were, it would more than likely be around them showing leadership skills, it wouldn’t be seen as a negative
Hibbyradge
16-07-2022, 02:32 PM
I played at a reasonable level, not professional but we did get a little brown envelope after each game. :greengrin
And if my captain had said dont tut at me, after the game he'd have been slaughtered by the rest of us for using the word tut, but we'd all know what he meant when he said it.
You'd have told him to **** off!
bigwheel
16-07-2022, 02:37 PM
You're right, there has to be guidance offered by the more experienced players, but "Don't you tut at me" isn't coaching and doesn't help the team in any way.
it does ..it says , get that petted lip away and get on with your job ..very clear …
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 02:48 PM
You'd have told him to **** off!
You know me too well Dave. :greengrin
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 02:54 PM
That was Melkerson and I dont blame him. Being coached by someone with their badges is fine but by a big laddie in CB with not much more experience and talking p&^%$, isnt right.
So players shouldn’t keep others right on the pitch because they don’t have their badges?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that comment. And the coaching staff (who will all have their badges) obviously didn’t think so either because there is no way they would let something like that be put out without seeing the content first.
cameronw-hfc
16-07-2022, 03:09 PM
No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
I played pro-youth my whole teens and coached at a good level since I quit, this is utter rubbish. Doesn't matter how qualified you are, a captain leads by example on and off the pitch, not whoever has the most qualifications.
Smartie
16-07-2022, 03:16 PM
I thought it was great of him to do the “mic’d up” thing as it was inevitable it would be scrutinised.
Personally I thought he came across well and the “tut” bit couldn’t have been more minor. That sort of thing surely happens every 5 minutes in a game at that level?
I didn’t play at a high level but had the occasional game with someone who did. One of the things that struck me about them was that their communication was about a million times better than my pub league colleagues. You generally couldn’t go far wrong if you listened to them closely and did what you were told.
jacomo
16-07-2022, 03:22 PM
Have you, aye?
You’re probably talking to Colin Nish here.
😂
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 03:22 PM
I played pro-youth my whole teens and coached at a good level since I quit, this is utter rubbish. Doesn't matter how qualified you are, a captain leads by example on and off the pitch, not whoever has the most qualifications.
Well said, and industrial language will be used lots between players every game, and folk getting upset over Ryan telling Melkerson to stop tutting at him are funny, as if you think thats bad you have no idea what really goes on on a park.
cameronw-hfc
16-07-2022, 04:06 PM
Well said, and industrial language will be used lots between players every game, and folk getting upset over Ryan telling Melkerson to stop tutting at him are funny, as if you think thats bad you have no idea what really goes on on a park.
Some of the things you hear at a decent level on the pitch are just as bad as the drivel on the pitch you'll hear at a Sunday league game. It's the same as any high stress environment, usually all sorts being thrown around abuse-wise but it doesn't mean the players have an issue with each other, they're just adults that get frustrated.
I critiqued Ryans recent behaviour over the contract etc earlier, but folk moaning at this are desperate for a reason to slate him. "Don't tut at me" is possibly the most middle class/polite way I've ever heard someone say shut the f up on a football pitch.
Nothing in that video suggests he'd be an exceptional captain or a bad one for that matter.
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 04:09 PM
Some of the things you hear at a decent level on the pitch are just as bad as the drivel on the pitch you'll hear at a Sunday league game. It's the same as any high stress environment, usually all sorts being thrown around abuse-wise but it doesn't mean the players have an issue with each other, they're just adults that get frustrated.
I critiqued Ryans recent behaviour over the contract etc earlier, but folk moaning at this are desperate for a reason to slate him. "Don't tut at me" is possibly the most middle class/polite way I've ever heard someone say shut the f up on a football pitch.
Nothing in that video suggests he'd be an exceptional captain or a bad one for that matter.
It also sounded more of a “don’t tut at me, just do your job” rather than a “do you know who I am” type comment, if that makes sense
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2022, 04:11 PM
Some of the things you hear at a decent level on the pitch are just as bad as the drivel on the pitch you'll hear at a Sunday league game. It's the same as any high stress environment, usually all sorts being thrown around abuse-wise but it doesn't mean the players have an issue with each other, they're just adults that get frustrated.
I critiqued Ryans recent behaviour over the contract etc earlier, but folk moaning at this are desperate for a reason to slate him. "Don't tut at me" is possibly the most middle class/polite way I've ever heard someone say shut the f up on a football pitch.
Nothing in that video suggests he'd be an exceptional captain or a bad one for that matter.
Absolutely. :agree:
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 04:12 PM
Some of the things you hear at a decent level on the pitch are just as bad as the drivel on the pitch you'll hear at a Sunday league game. It's the same as any high stress environment, usually all sorts being thrown around abuse-wise but it doesn't mean the players have an issue with each other, they're just adults that get frustrated.
I critiqued Ryans recent behaviour over the contract etc earlier, but folk moaning at this are desperate for a reason to slate him. "Don't tut at me" is possibly the most middle class/polite way I've ever heard someone say shut the f up on a football pitch.
Nothing in that video suggests he'd be an exceptional captain or a bad one for that matter.
I remember my mate playing for Kelty 6 or 7 years ago. The biggest moaner, player manager at the time, was Tam Courts. He used to absolutely slaughter boys on the pitch (when he was playing). He did have a coaching badge right enough, but he’s not done too badly since.
It happens in football and always will. Porteous was likely being careful with his words as well.
SaulGoodman
16-07-2022, 04:14 PM
The “don’t tut at me comment” wasn’t even mentioned until we got beat by Falkirk and now it’s an issue.
Smartie
16-07-2022, 04:23 PM
The “don’t tut at me comment” wasn’t even mentioned until we got beat by Falkirk and now it’s an issue.
The "mic'd up" stuff had been universally well received until that point.
Iain G
16-07-2022, 04:29 PM
Yet I guess that’s one of the more tame things said between players on a football pitch. No idea why this “don’t tut” comment is getting so much focus. Well I do actually, it’s because of who said it
We should start to call him King Tut 😁
Hibiza
16-07-2022, 04:32 PM
You’re probably talking to Colin Nish here.
😂
Hi Colin
MacBean
16-07-2022, 04:41 PM
Transfer thread...
☝🏼 Exactly!
Take your bickering about Porto elsewhere ffs
cabbageandribs1875
16-07-2022, 05:28 PM
motherwell forward Kaiyne Woolery joins turkish club Sakaryaspor for undisclosed fee, hope he gets paid his wages ok
cameronw-hfc
16-07-2022, 05:36 PM
☝🏼 Exactly!
Take your bickering about Porto elsewhere ffs
Aw aye let's all go back to the abundance of transfer rumours over the last few days...
Aw aye let's all go back to the abundance of transfer rumours over the last few days...
Let's do something before I lose thw will to live, over 3 pages of drivel
:aok:
It really is brutal, I'm another who doesn't come in here much anymore as its a real toxic environment - feels like some just love it when Hibs get beat and they have something to moan about.
Haymaker
16-07-2022, 06:02 PM
:hyper
Tambo
16-07-2022, 07:52 PM
The Huns set to cash in another 22 million pound with Bassey on his way to Ajax.
Stuart93
16-07-2022, 08:18 PM
The Huns set to cash in another 22 million pound with Bassey on his way to Ajax.
Think it’s €22m so about £16m…still a large fee regardless but he was one of their best players
Not easy to replace
Spudster
16-07-2022, 08:21 PM
Think it’s €22m so about £16m…still a large fee regardless but he was one of their best players
Not easy to replace
Was average for the first 6 months of last season IMO
Stuart93
16-07-2022, 08:22 PM
Was average for the first 6 months of last season IMO
Aye he was then found another level. Was unplayable towards the end of the season
HendoDelivered
16-07-2022, 08:50 PM
Think it’s €22m so about £16m…still a large fee regardless but he was one of their best players
Not easy to replace
A steal IMO.
theonlywayisup
16-07-2022, 08:59 PM
Think it’s €22m so about £16m…still a large fee regardless but he was one of their best players
Not easy to replace
Closer to £19m
Big_Franck
16-07-2022, 08:59 PM
Aye he was then found another level. Was unplayable towards the end of the season
He also got in the Europa League team of the season and was outstanding in numerous Europa League games and in the Scottish Cup final. Unfortunate for us that sevco are pulling in that kind of fee but the boy could well turn out to be cheap at that price. A year playing champions league football and Ajax will punt him to England for double that.
CapitalGreen
16-07-2022, 09:27 PM
The “don’t tut at me comment” wasn’t even mentioned until we got beat by Falkirk and now it’s an issue.
You’re wrong, it was mentioned before falkirk but it only became mentioned as a negative after we got beat or once people realised he might see out his contract without extending. Here’s the original thread from the time, not a negative comment to be found. https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?358118-Ryan-Mic-d-up
B.H.F.C
16-07-2022, 09:33 PM
You’re wrong, it was mentioned before falkirk but it only became mentioned as a negative after we got beat or once people realised he might see out his contract without extending. Here’s the original thread from the time, not a negative comment to be found. https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?358118-Ryan-Mic-d-up
Thread didn’t even get as far as a second page despite his outrageous comments towards his teammates!
BoomtownHibees
16-07-2022, 10:07 PM
You’re wrong, it was mentioned before falkirk but it only became mentioned as a negative after we got beat or once people realised he might see out his contract without extending. Here’s the original thread from the time, not a negative comment to be found. https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?358118-Ryan-Mic-d-up
The narrative around Porto has definitely changed since it was said he wouldn’t be renewing his contract
Spudster
16-07-2022, 10:20 PM
Aye he was then found another level. Was unplayable towards the end of the season
Aye, just frustrating that 3 or 4 months of playing good for the uglies gets that figure. Whereas 3 years of that for the rest of us gets us £3m max
1875Sean
16-07-2022, 10:21 PM
The Huns set to cash in another 22 million pound with Bassey on his way to Ajax.
Lost two of their best players from last season, can’t see last Celtic for the league
Hibbyradge
16-07-2022, 10:32 PM
Think it’s €22m so about £16m…still a large fee regardless but he was one of their best players
Not easy to replace
€22m is actually closer to £19m.
NAE NOOKIE
16-07-2022, 10:41 PM
[QUOTE=ahibby;7025811]No it isnt, and if you dont know it is then you havent played with players at that level. Incase you are wondering, I have.
That made me chuckle. I've listened to many many players who have played 'at that level' on the telly talking utter baws about the game in general and on isolated incidents during games. My very favourite ... Alan Shearer is the worst for it .... a forward gets a snap chance at a shot with the keeper literally inches away, he simply cant get the ball past the keeper, its physically impossible, and the pundit goes 'well he should have done better there, that should have been in the back of the net'
I for one mate have ceased to be impressed by .... 'played at that level' .... or 'played with players who have played at that level' because ex pros, and current pros for that matter, are just as capable of talking rubbish as even the most gifted amateur :greengrin
Anyway .... any transfer news :rolleyes:
Stuart93
16-07-2022, 10:47 PM
€22m is actually closer to £19m.
Ah right. Well even then, even more cash for them
SaulGoodman
17-07-2022, 01:12 AM
You’re wrong, it was mentioned before falkirk but it only became mentioned as a negative after we got beat or once people realised he might see out his contract without extending. Here’s the original thread from the time, not a negative comment to be found. https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?358118-Ryan-Mic-d-up
That’s kind of what I meant :greengrin
heretoday
17-07-2022, 08:11 AM
Bassy was MoM in the cup final for me. Very strong.
How can the rest of us ever compete when the OF are dealing in players of that calibre?
Alex Trager
17-07-2022, 08:17 AM
Bassy was MoM in the cup final for me. Very strong.
How can the rest of us ever compete when the OF are dealing in players of that calibre?
Bassey cost them £300K
McGruber
17-07-2022, 08:23 AM
Bassey cost them £300K
True, but if we had picked him up instead for that affordable £300K (wages possibly have been too much for us) and he played just as well he might be off to Ajax just now for about £1 million.
At OF these players get big wages that need bought out, promoting media and more importantly playing alongside good international players in big games. They get to showcase themselves in cup finals and in Europe against other top teams.
We aren't a club placed to turn round that kind of sale - we would have to have someone truly exceptional on a long contract for big numbers.
Probably more likely in future we get our better money ins from sell on % from the likes of Doig and others who go now
Paulie Walnuts
17-07-2022, 08:27 AM
True, but if we had picked him up instead for that affordable £300K (wages possibly have been too much for us) and he played just aswell he might be off to Ajax just now for about £1 million.
At OF these players get big wages that need bought out, promoting media and more importantly playing alongside good international players in big games. They get to showcase themselves in cup finals and in Europe against other top teams.
We aren't a club placed to turn round that kind of sale - we would have to have someone truly exceptional on a long contract for big numbers.
Probably more likely in future we get our better money ins from sell on % from the likes of Doig and others who go now
If we’d signed Bassey when the Huns did and he turned out as good a player I reckon we’d be holding out for about £8m or so. He’s an exceptional player.
Even that still proves your point though, we don’t get the same money for the same standard of player. Nowhere near it.
Tambo
17-07-2022, 08:32 AM
https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/portsmouth-hibernian-motherwell-three-way-7342247
Dunno if has been posted before but just come across this.
Free agent center back linked with us.
Portsmouth are set to face a battle to acquire the services of free agent defender Terell Thomas.
The 26-year-old is on the look-out for a new club having been released by Championship side Reading at the end of last season.
However, landing Thomas could be tricky as it is understood Scottish clubs Hibernian and Motherwell are interesting in luring the defender north of the border.
GloryGlory
17-07-2022, 08:33 AM
If we’d signed Bassey when the Huns did and he turned out as good a player I reckon we’d be holding out for about £8m or so. He’s an exceptional player.
Even that still proves your point though, we don’t get the same money for the same standard of player. Nowhere near it.
We need to raise our profile by getting regular European football with qualification for the group stages and beyond. Players that have that sort of experience against clubs in the "better" leagues in Europe usually command higher fees. Not the only thing, but a big factor like playing regular internationals for their countries.
GloryGlory
17-07-2022, 08:36 AM
https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/portsmouth-hibernian-motherwell-three-way-7342247
Dunno if has been posted before but just come across this.
Free agent center back linked with us.
Portsmouth are set to face a battle to acquire the services of free agent defender Terell Thomas.
The 26-year-old is on the look-out for a new club having been released by Championship side Reading at the end of last season.
However, landing Thomas could be tricky as it is understood Scottish clubs Hibernian and Motherwell are interesting in luring the defender north of the border.
He's already played some pre season matches on trial for Portsmouth - would suggest they are in the driving seat at the mo? Johnson would have to be quite persuasive to get him here and then there's money.
Alex Trager
17-07-2022, 08:39 AM
True, but if we had picked him up instead for that affordable £300K (wages possibly have been too much for us) and he played just as well he might be off to Ajax just now for about £1 million.
At OF these players get big wages that need bought out, promoting media and more importantly playing alongside good international players in big games. They get to showcase themselves in cup finals and in Europe against other top teams.
We aren't a club placed to turn round that kind of sale - we would have to have someone truly exceptional on a long contract for big numbers.
Probably more likely in future we get our better money ins from sell on % from the likes of Doig and others who go now
I agree with you, however a sense of placing is needed.
We aren’t playing EL finals and going for league titles.
The same as Ajax will probably cash in on him in a couple of years for £50-60+ if he does well.
Just the way it goes.
Still, £300k - £8M or there abouts would be outstanding for us
Big_Franck
17-07-2022, 08:40 AM
https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/portsmouth-hibernian-motherwell-three-way-7342247
Dunno if has been posted before but just come across this.
Free agent center back linked with us.
Portsmouth are set to face a battle to acquire the services of free agent defender Terell Thomas.
The 26-year-old is on the look-out for a new club having been released by Championship side Reading at the end of last season.
However, landing Thomas could be tricky as it is understood Scottish clubs Hibernian and Motherwell are interesting in luring the defender north of the border.
At last, a transfer rumour! He seems to have played most of his football in league 2 though, only playing twice for Reading before they released him.
Wilson
17-07-2022, 08:40 AM
If we’d signed Bassey when the Huns did and he turned out as good a player I reckon we’d be holding out for about £8m or so. He’s an exceptional player.
Even that still proves your point though, we don’t get the same money for the same standard of player. Nowhere near it.
We don't have players that make the Europa league team of the season and are subsequently sought after by multiple clubs in Europe's top leagues. We might produce the odd player who us up to that standard technically but it is more about the exposure. That the player is scouted producing the goods at the highest level possible. That they draw the attention of the financial big hitters.
Ajax aren't spending that sort of money after a scouting mission at hibs away to Livingston.
Success breeds success. It is why people bang on about qualifying for Europe every year. Not just qualifying but pushing on. The money and the exposure that comes from that could be game changing for us.
Since452
17-07-2022, 08:44 AM
Bassey is a fantastic player. He's outgrown the huns. If he performs the same at Ajax he'll outgrow them too.
04Sauzee
17-07-2022, 08:45 AM
https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/portsmouth-hibernian-motherwell-three-way-7342247
Dunno if has been posted before but just come across this.
Free agent center back linked with us.
Portsmouth are set to face a battle to acquire the services of free agent defender Terell Thomas.
The 26-year-old is on the look-out for a new club having been released by Championship side Reading at the end of last season.
However, landing Thomas could be tricky as it is understood Scottish clubs Hibernian and Motherwell are interesting in luring the defender north of the border.
6'3 right footed CB , don't know much about him but seems at least to have had a pre-season.
Smartie
17-07-2022, 08:51 AM
Bassey certainly had a hot streak there but he’s not exactly put in a sustained spell of good form and “outgrown” anyone.
Good deal for all parties imo as he could easily have had a purple patch and may well fall back a bit.
£18m for a player who has been good for 4-5 months is great business, especially if they’ve secured a sell on.
Bassey certainly had a hot streak there but he’s not exactly put in a sustained spell of good form and “outgrown” anyone.
Good deal for all parties imo as he could easily have had a purple patch and may well fall back a bit.
£18m for a player who has been good for 4-5 months is great business, especially if they’ve secured a sell on.
That's where I am. I actually thought he was a bit of a liability early on and I know one team thought likewise and targeted his area of park. Latterly he was excellent but there's every chance he could be another Efe.
Paulie Walnuts
17-07-2022, 10:02 AM
We need to raise our profile by getting regular European football with qualification for the group stages and beyond. Players that have that sort of experience against clubs in the "better" leagues in Europe usually command higher fees. Not the only thing, but a big factor like playing regular internationals for their countries.
Definitely.
I think it would probably be a step too far for us to get out a group but just getting to the groups really shouldn’t be beyond us and would boost our clubs and players profiles significantly
Unseen work
17-07-2022, 10:16 AM
Finally a rumour!!!
Played in league 1 a lot so you’d imagine Johnson will know him verg well.
Out of contract and on trial at Portsmouth so I won’t if we’ve missed out on other targets? Or are we holding out as we’re desperate to get him?
https://youtu.be/5I-6DmKUmnE
Looks a big strong lad who is decent on the ball too
lucky
17-07-2022, 10:46 AM
https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/portsmouth-hibernian-motherwell-three-way-7342247
Dunno if has been posted before but just come across this.
Free agent center back linked with us.
Portsmouth are set to face a battle to acquire the services of free agent defender Terell Thomas.
The 26-year-old is on the look-out for a new club having been released by Championship side Reading at the end of last season.
However, landing Thomas could be tricky as it is understood Scottish clubs Hibernian and Motherwell are interesting in luring the defender north of the border.
A quick look at his stats don’t make good reading, he’s only played 91 league games in his whole career. I can’t see him being anywhere near the standard we will be looking at.
McGruber
17-07-2022, 10:51 AM
I agree with you, however a sense of placing is needed.
We aren’t playing EL finals and going for league titles.
The same as Ajax will probably cash in on him in a couple of years for £50-60+ if he does well.
Just the way it goes.
Still, £300k - £8M or there abouts would be outstanding for us
Hear what you're saying. We would have turned round a tremendous fee - nowhere near £8 million though.
Like McGinn at Villa, his value could well sky rocket for any potential sell on from Ajax
04Sauzee
17-07-2022, 10:56 AM
A quick look at his stats don’t make good reading, he’s only played 91 league games in his whole career. I can’t see him being anywhere near the standard we will be looking at.
Looks like he's played more than double that, looking at soccerbase he's played 183 first team games. Not sure how many of these games he's come off the bench mind. Maybe it's 91 starts?
Agreed I'm not sure he will be a Hibs player.
BILLYHIBS
17-07-2022, 05:48 PM
The Rangers agree deal to sign Ben Davies from Liverpool for 4m
BBC Sport
NC1875
17-07-2022, 05:58 PM
The Rangers agree deal to sign Ben Davies from Liverpool for 4m
BBC Sport
Liverpool signed him for nothing. He hasn’t played a game in what, 2 years and The Rangers pay 4 million for him ?
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2022, 06:01 PM
Liverpool signed him for nothing. He hasn’t played a game in what, 2 years and The Rangers pay 4 million for him ?
Was on loan last season.
Good player, decent signing for Rangers
04Sauzee
17-07-2022, 06:03 PM
Liverpool signed him for nothing. He hasn’t played a game in what, 2 years and The Rangers pay 4 million for him ?
Liverpool definitely paid a small fee, think Celtic thought they had him at one point. He was on loan at Sheffield Utd last season.
04Sauzee
17-07-2022, 06:49 PM
Hibs working on 1 or 2 players with 'plates spinning' Terell Thomas not thought to be one of them although a CB is high on the list
JDH to go for a scan on his heel and hopefully only be out for 7 to 10 days.
Liverpool definitely paid a small fee, think Celtic thought they had him at one point. He was on loan at Sheffield Utd last season.
yep, think it was 1.5 million total, but only 500k up front, with the rest based on certain conditions. Never kicked a ball for Liverpool in a first team match, but gave them cover when they had about 7 centre backs injured (including the midfielders who had covered there)
hibbyfraelibby
17-07-2022, 07:14 PM
Is Gogic deal with St.Mirren gone sour? Wouldn't mind him back as cover.
Is Gogic deal with St.Mirren gone sour? Wouldn't mind him back as cover.
Jeez mate, he's not what we need at Hibs now.
JamesHFC
17-07-2022, 08:18 PM
Honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Porteous gone by the end of the window.
cameronw-hfc
17-07-2022, 08:26 PM
Jeez mate, he's not what we need at Hibs now.
He's basically Marvin Bartley without the tactical intelligence and worse on the ball. I actually think he's a better footballer than Marv, but Marv understood his limits and kept it simple. Gogic would go on wanders and try cross field balls that he just couldn't play😂
brydekirk
17-07-2022, 08:26 PM
Honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Porteous gone by the end of the window.
Must agree, acting like a spoilt kid.
Liverpool definitely paid a small fee, think Celtic thought they had him at one point. He was on loan at Sheffield Utd last season.
Pretty decent player
badabing67
17-07-2022, 08:30 PM
Honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Porteous gone by the end of the window.
Apparently Ange wants him
https://twitter.com/Goal_UK_/status/1548685315535249408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Callum_62
17-07-2022, 08:33 PM
Apparently Ange wants him
https://twitter.com/Goal_UK_/status/1548685315535249408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EtweetSeems legit
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04Sauzee
17-07-2022, 08:33 PM
Apparently Ange wants him
https://twitter.com/Goal_UK_/status/1548685315535249408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Did you read the tweet 👀
Stevie Reid
17-07-2022, 08:38 PM
Looks like he's played more than double that, looking at soccerbase he's played 183 first team games. Not sure how many of these games he's come off the bench mind. Maybe it's 91 starts?
Agreed I'm not sure he will be a Hibs player.
He’s made 170 starts across all competitions, 141 in the league. 13 sub appearances on top of those starts to make 183 as you say.
Wikipedia often gathers player stats from Soccerbase but only seems to show league matches in their career summary.
badabing67
17-07-2022, 08:39 PM
Did you read the tweet
Yes it said
"EXCLUSIVE Ange Postecoglou has demanded Celtic make an approach for Hibs liability Ryan Porteous to bolster their defensive options after yesterday's calamitous display against Blackburn. The offer of a Loan with option to buy made by cash strapped Celtic has angered Hibernian"
But he is out of contract at the end of the season so a loan doesn't make sense. But it doesn't mean Celtic aren't interested in him
cameronw-hfc
17-07-2022, 08:51 PM
Yes it said
"EXCLUSIVE Ange Postecoglou has demanded Celtic make an approach for Hibs liability Ryan Porteous to bolster their defensive options after yesterday's calamitous display against Blackburn. The offer of a Loan with option to buy made by cash strapped Celtic has angered Hibernian"
But he is out of contract at the end of the season so a loan doesn't make sense. But it doesn't mean Celtic aren't interested in him
Yeah but that's a wind up account, so it also doesn't mean that they are
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2022, 08:52 PM
Yes it said
"EXCLUSIVE Ange Postecoglou has demanded Celtic make an approach for Hibs liability Ryan Porteous to bolster their defensive options after yesterday's calamitous display against Blackburn. The offer of a Loan with option to buy made by cash strapped Celtic has angered Hibernian"
But he is out of contract at the end of the season so a loan doesn't make sense. But it doesn't mean Celtic aren't interested in him
Its quite clearly rubbish
CapitalGreen
17-07-2022, 08:52 PM
Yes it said
"EXCLUSIVE Ange Postecoglou has demanded Celtic make an approach for Hibs liability Ryan Porteous to bolster their defensive options after yesterday's calamitous display against Blackburn. The offer of a Loan with option to buy made by cash strapped Celtic has angered Hibernian"
But he is out of contract at the end of the season so a loan doesn't make sense. But it doesn't mean Celtic aren't interested in him
So you’ve read that and you think it could possibly be genuine?
Smartie
17-07-2022, 09:05 PM
There's nothing in that tweet to suggest it is genuine, however I'd be astonished if we get through to this time next year without a Porto/ last year of contract/ Celtic/ lowball offer/ turn on one of our favourite players saga.
Based on absolutely zero fact or information.
Stuart93
17-07-2022, 09:07 PM
Hearts looking like they’ve managed to get Shankland over the line
badabing67
17-07-2022, 09:17 PM
So you’ve read that and you think it could possibly be genuine?
As a rule I am not part of the Twitteratti. I do not use Twitter because it is full of crap, but i do think Celtic will have an interest in Porto and will be sniffing around, that is just the start of it. We will see similar from various sources I am sure
04Sauzee
17-07-2022, 09:20 PM
Aaron Mooy looks like he's Celtic bound.
Vault Boy
17-07-2022, 09:36 PM
Aaron Mooy looks like he's Celtic bound.
That’s a great signing
21sMay
17-07-2022, 10:03 PM
I've posted twice about a midfielder we have been after . I'll go for midweek
flash
17-07-2022, 10:04 PM
I've posted twice about a midfielder we have been after . I'll go for midweek
From England?
Stevie Reid
17-07-2022, 10:04 PM
Aaron Mooy looks like he's Celtic bound.
Had absolutely no idea that he played for St. Mirren.
Onceinawhile
17-07-2022, 10:07 PM
Hearts looking like they’ve managed to get Shankland over the line
Couldn't get a game or do anything half decent with antwerp's second team.
21sMay
17-07-2022, 10:13 PM
From England?
Nope
I've been wrong before though . I called Fletcher signing in Jan and it didn't happen . Should have but didn't . Fingers crossed this one's a goer
Callum_62
17-07-2022, 10:17 PM
Nope
I've been wrong before though . I called Fletcher signing in Jan and it didn't happen . Should have but didn't . Fingers crossed this one's a goerI thought the midfielder you mentioned previously was England?
Wasn't that the one the transfer fee was the issue?
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21sMay
17-07-2022, 10:25 PM
I thought the midfielder you mentioned previously was England?
Wasn't that the one the transfer fee was the issue?
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Yes but he isn't English
CL0762
17-07-2022, 10:37 PM
Hearts looking like they’ve managed to get Shankland over the line
Completely nonplussed about this.
He’s been good in the championship, yet struggled in the premiership.
Stuart93
17-07-2022, 10:45 PM
Completely nonplussed about this.
He’s been good in the championship, yet struggled in the premiership.
True. I reckon he’ll get a lot more service at hearts than he has elsewhere though.
Unseen work
17-07-2022, 10:47 PM
I've posted twice about a midfielder we have been after . I'll go for midweek
Come on give us a name.
Very least enough clues we can work it out for ourselves 😅
phoenixfire
17-07-2022, 11:08 PM
Guessing here just Jamie McGrath? Or maybe Daniel Sinani?or Scott Fraser? Again guessing here:dunno::dunno:
Bobby's Cinema
17-07-2022, 11:15 PM
Completely nonplussed about this.
He’s been good in the championship, yet struggled in the premiership.
Keep saying it but this sort of signing is pretty much guaranteed goals for them.
Our signings in key positions are complete unknowns. Always supportive but very concerned with how we're shaping up.
phoenixfire
17-07-2022, 11:38 PM
Or Elliot Anderson?
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2022, 11:49 PM
Keep saying it but this sort of signing is pretty much guaranteed goals for them.
Our signings in key positions are complete unknowns. Always supportive but very concerned with how we're shaping up.
Shankland is definitely not guaranteed goals in the top flight.
Bobby's Cinema
18-07-2022, 12:25 AM
Shankland is definitely not guaranteed goals in the top flight.
Say what you like but seen it a million times, the team that finishes third has relative consistency of squad season to season and sign established players with a track record that know the league. Hopeful but concerned with our business - time marching on and for me we're still desperate for an established striker - the opening 2 games of our league campaign against a rotten St Johnstone and home v Hearts will tell us alot about how we're shaping up here.
MWHIBBIES
18-07-2022, 12:28 AM
Say what you like but seen it a million times, the team that finishes third has relative consistency of squad season to season and sign established players with a track record that know the league. Hopeful but concerned with our business - time marching on and for me we're still desperate for an established striker - the opening 2 games of our league campaign against a rotten St Johnstone and home v Hearts will tell us alot about how we're shaping up here.
We have 2 strikers with a better track record in the SPL than shankland.
Big_Franck
18-07-2022, 12:56 AM
Say what you like but seen it a million times, the team that finishes third has relative consistency of squad season to season and sign established players with a track record that know the league. Hopeful but concerned with our business - time marching on and for me we're still desperate for an established striker - the opening 2 games of our league campaign against a rotten St Johnstone and home v Hearts will tell us alot about how we're shaping up here.
I actually agree with this. You don't have to sign world beaters to finish 3rd in our league but signing youngsters with little to no experience and punts from around europe rarely gets you 3rd.
matty_f
18-07-2022, 12:59 AM
I actually agree with this. You don't have to sign world beaters to finish 3rd in our league but signing youngsters with little to no experience and punts from around europe rarely gets you 3rd.
How many times has it been tried?
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 02:33 AM
Say what you like but seen it a million times, the team that finishes third has relative consistency of squad season to season and sign established players with a track record that know the league. Hopeful but concerned with our business - time marching on and for me we're still desperate for an established striker - the opening 2 games of our league campaign against a rotten St Johnstone and home v Hearts will tell us alot about how we're shaping up here.
Don’t think it will…way too early to assess that…perhaps when we’ve played everyone once - that will be a time to assess. In fuller detail, it will be Xmas ..when we’ve played most teams home and away .
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bigwheel
18-07-2022, 02:37 AM
How many times has it been tried?
Can’t answer your question Matty, but it’s a fair point being made in the post you respond to. The lack of first team experience in our squad will result in what we are already seeing, some good performances,some not so good. We’ve seen it over many years. At Hibs and across football. It will likely stop us getting anywhere near a top4 finish, but should see us better than last season.
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Winston Ingram
18-07-2022, 05:41 AM
Completely nonplussed about this.
He’s been good in the championship, yet struggled in the premiership.
I’m delighted their getting him.
The guy is a poacher only and even then, his only success has been in the lower leagues and they’re paying a fair bit for him.
Hearts main strength is their front 3. Shankland has to play in a front 2. Great attacking sides that play with front 2 are as rare as hens teeth.
Since452
18-07-2022, 05:46 AM
Keep saying it but this sort of signing is pretty much guaranteed goals for them.
Our signings in key positions are complete unknowns. Always supportive but very concerned with how we're shaping up.
Correct. If Hearts are preparing for their usual relegation. Shankland is prolific at a lower level. Delighted it isn't Simms.
mjhibby
18-07-2022, 05:56 AM
Its impossible to predict who will be third. Motherwell constantly defied the odds to be third,second when sevco not there. Kilmarnock have done it. No point speculating till the end of the window then what happens in january. As it stands we arent strong enough to be top 4 imho but a couple of quality signings and we could be. Plus better luck with injuries. Last season was unbelievable. As for hearts. They have lost their best two players and as any jambo will tell you gordon was the difference for them. Like roughie with us he got them 12/15 points another keeper wouldnt get them. If he gets injured or loses form their season will be totally different. Plus no idea how aberdeen or the arabs will do. Always one team does better than expected. Maybe well again.Top 6 id be happy with tbh. Next season 3rd for sure
thebausburst
18-07-2022, 06:05 AM
Keep saying it but this sort of signing is pretty much guaranteed goals for them.
Our signings in key positions are complete unknowns. Always supportive but very concerned with how we're shaping up.
Agreed.
Winston Ingram
18-07-2022, 06:12 AM
Keep saying it but this sort of signing is pretty much guaranteed goals for them.
Our signings in key positions are complete unknowns. Always supportive but very concerned with how we're shaping up.
Not in the top flight he doesn't. His only success has been in the Championship.
04Sauzee
18-07-2022, 06:23 AM
Guessing here just Jamie McGrath? Or maybe Daniel Sinani?or Scott Fraser? Again guessing here:dunno::dunno:
Did we not try for Fraser before but he decided to go to MK Dons?
Libby Hibby
18-07-2022, 06:54 AM
I actually agree with this. You don't have to sign world beaters to finish 3rd in our league but signing youngsters with little to no experience and punts from around europe rarely gets you 3rd.
What? You’ve seen it ‘millions’ of times too?
matty_f
18-07-2022, 07:13 AM
Can’t answer your question Matty, but it’s a fair point being made in the post you respond to. The lack of first team experience in our squad will result in what we are already seeing, some good performances,some not so good. We’ve seen it over many years. At Hibs and across football. It will likely stop us getting anywhere near a top4 finish, but should see us better than last season.
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We've not seen what performances our new signings are capable of yet as we're waiting on work permits for them so performances so far can really be used as a barometer, imho.
We've also tried the other approach of getting tried and tested players in waves we've had one third pace finish in seventeen years, a relegation and three years in the Championship so I'm all for us trying something different.
Brightside
18-07-2022, 07:14 AM
As a rule I am not part of the Twitteratti. I do not use Twitter because it is full of crap, but i do think Celtic will have an interest in Porto and will be sniffing around, that is just the start of it. We will see similar from various sources I am sure
I wouldn’t expect Celtic to have any interest in Ryan.
Crunchie
18-07-2022, 07:26 AM
Shankland is definitely not guaranteed goals in the top flight.
Nothing is guaranteed but he's a safe bet to get in double figures playing in a decent team.
Brightside
18-07-2022, 07:30 AM
Nothing is guaranteed but he's a safe bet to get in double figures playing in a decent team.
He scored 7 goals on 48 games in the prem. that’s as far from a safe bet as your going to find.
Mcbizz1998
18-07-2022, 07:30 AM
Shankland will score goals for them unfortunately. It’s silly to suggest he won’t.
Libby Hibby
18-07-2022, 07:38 AM
Shankland will score goals for them unfortunately. It’s silly to suggest he won’t.
Of course he will. The argument is will he be prolific as history suggests otherwise.
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 07:43 AM
We've not seen what performances our new signings are capable of yet as we're waiting on work permits for them so performances so far can really be used as a barometer, imho.
We've also tried the other approach of getting tried and tested players in waves we've had one third pace finish in seventeen years, a relegation and three years in the Championship so I'm all for us trying something different.
Fair enough . But history shows us with few exceptions, inexperienced players, even if they are decent , give mixed team performances . I fully expect us to see some up and down performances with this group this season . Good enough for top six , but unlikely top four .
I guess that could change if a couple of experienced quality additions are made , but overall we all know what we get if we sign players who have limited first team experience ..even if they are decent .
I’m up for the journey - just setting my expectations. I’d imagine even the board won’t be expecting third place this season . They will realise with this signing approach, it’s not a quick fix scenario
Allant1981
18-07-2022, 07:47 AM
Fair enough . But history shows us with few exceptions, inexperienced players, even if they are decent , give mixed team performances . I fully expect us to see some up and down performances with this group this season . Good enough for top six , but unlikely top four .
I guess that could change if a couple of experienced quality additions are made , but overall we all know what we get if we sign players who have limited first team experience ..even if they are decent .
I’m up for the journey - just setting my expectations. I’d imagine even the board won’t be expecting third place this season . They will realise with this signing approach, it’s not a quick fix scenario
We have seen many a team with experienced players have mixed performances, we have been relegated with experienced players
Crunchie
18-07-2022, 07:49 AM
He scored 7 goals on 48 games in the prem. that’s as far from a safe bet as your going to find.
If he signs for Hearts and gets regular games I'll bet you anything you want he'll get into double figures. I'd be confident he'd do the same for us. He played in a crappy United side that I think finished 9th.
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 07:51 AM
We have seen many a team with experienced players have mixed performances, we have been relegated with experienced players
True, But the average age of our team is very young, and coupled with the fact that for many it’s their first season as first team players. Even if they are good enough, they will need time to grow and develop. I’m supportive . Looking forward to it , but realistic .
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 07:52 AM
He scored 7 goals on 48 games in the prem. that’s as far from a safe bet as your going to find.
I’m expecting him to get much better service in this hearts team, than that United side . There’s no doubt he knows how to score goals .
GreenCastle
18-07-2022, 07:59 AM
Fair enough . But history shows us with few exceptions, inexperienced players, even if they are decent , give mixed team performances . I fully expect us to see some up and down performances with this group this season . Good enough for top six , but unlikely top four .
I guess that could change if a couple of experienced quality additions are made , but overall we all know what we get if we sign players who have limited first team experience ..even if they are decent .
I’m up for the journey - just setting my expectations. I’d imagine even the board won’t be expecting third place this season . They will realise with this signing approach, it’s not a quick fix scenario
Someone should have told me I signed up for another transition season with my ST.
While I agree it will take more than 1 window to fix the mess we were in - we still need to add “experience” in midfield and a left footed centre back. Not a lot to ask surely.
GloryGlory
18-07-2022, 08:08 AM
Someone should have told me I signed up for another transition season with my ST.
While I agree it will take more than 1 window to fix the mess we were in - we still need to add “experience” in midfield and a left footed centre back. Not a lot to ask surely.
Even when you're in transition, you can still have a short term plan to fill gaps until the full transition is done. I can see the medium and long term plan - get young talented players and develop them to sell on at a large profit, rinse and repeat - but that needs to be tempered with what happens now. A couple of seasoned pros for a year or two, until the development squad is ready to move up, wouldn't go amiss and wouldn't necessarily break the bank.
SlickShoes
18-07-2022, 08:15 AM
Someone should have told me I signed up for another transition season with my ST.
While I agree it will take more than 1 window to fix the mess we were in - we still need to add “experience” in midfield and a left footed centre back. Not a lot to ask surely.
Has anyone ever bought a Hibs season ticket and been guaranteed success? Every Hibs season ticket has been like a lottery since as far back as I can remember.
hibbyfraelibby
18-07-2022, 08:19 AM
Even when you're in transition, you can still have a short term plan to fill gaps until the full transition is done. I can see the medium and long term plan - get young talented players and develop them to sell on at a large profit, rinse and repeat - but that needs to be tempered with what happens now. A couple of seasoned pros for a year or two, until the development squad is ready to move up, wouldn't go amiss and wouldn't necessarily break the bank.
Agree with you re the seasoned pros and thats what McGeady and Marshall bring to the party. We still have seasoned pros from last season in Stevenson, Hanlon, Cadden, Newell so we are perhaps not too far off.
matty_f
18-07-2022, 08:31 AM
Agree with you re the seasoned pros and thats what McGeady and Marshall bring to the party. We still have seasoned pros from last season in Stevenson, Hanlon, Cadden, Newell so we are perhaps not too far off.
Think your point has been lost along the way but you're spot on - we don't have a team full of young players, there's plenty experience in the squad as well.
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 08:41 AM
Think your point has been lost along the way but you're spot on - we don't have a team full of young players, there's plenty experience in the squad as well.
Outside of the three experienced signings (including the new left back ) , almost all the players we have signed this calendar year have had almost no first team experience . It is not just their age, it’s that they are Learning team football . You seem to think it’s not an issue. Fair do’s. I say it will show in our performances this season and as a result, even if they are good, it will take longer to compete with the likes of Hearts. Who have a stronger mix of experience in their side .
B.H.F.C
18-07-2022, 08:44 AM
Think your point has been lost along the way but you're spot on - we don't have a team full of young players, there's plenty experience in the squad as well.
There was plenty experience on the pitch yesterday. Got Hanlon to come back in to that and the left back is a decent age and played a decent number of games at a decent level. Youan is a bit less experienced but has played and scored at a decent level as well.
Don’t think experience (or lack of it) will hinder us too much. It’s just whether the players coming in are any good and whether those who have under performed over the last year can improve.
04Sauzee
18-07-2022, 08:49 AM
Outside of the three experienced signings (including the new left back ) , almost all the players we have signed this calendar year have had almost no first team experience . It is not just their age, it’s that they are Learning team football . You seem to think it’s not an issue. Fair do’s. I say it will show in our performances this season and as a result, even if they are good, it will take longer to compete with the likes of Hearts. Who have a stronger mix of experience in their side .
Mitchell has 94 appearances with a decent number already in the Scottish game. Youan has 60 appearances at a decent level
Since452
18-07-2022, 08:50 AM
The average age of our squad is balanced out with the likes of Marshall, McGeady, Stevenson, Hanlon etc. That can't be far off 2000 appearances between them. Three of them at least will be regular starters for us.
Paulie Walnuts
18-07-2022, 08:52 AM
The average age of our squad is balanced out with the likes of Marshall, McGeady, Stevenson, Hanlon etc. That can't be far off 2000 appearances between them. Three of them at least will be regular starters for us.
2375 between the four of them :agree:
AL-Qaholik
18-07-2022, 09:11 AM
Sorry if already posted:
From BBC gossip - Portsmouth, Hibernian and Motherwell are competing to sign free agent Terell Thomas after the Saint Lucia defender, 26, was released from his contract by Reading. (Hampshire Live)
Never played above League One but came through the ranks at Arsenal.
Since452
18-07-2022, 09:16 AM
2375 between the four of them :agree:
That's a crazy amount of experience. Then you've got Daz about the place as well.
phoenixfire
18-07-2022, 09:31 AM
Did we not try for Fraser before but he decided to go to MK Dons?
Think we were linked with him at one time thou don't know if tried to get him!
CapitalGreen
18-07-2022, 09:36 AM
Guessing here just Jamie McGrath? Or maybe Daniel Sinani?or Scott Fraser? Again guessing here:dunno::dunno:
Fraser only joined Charlton in Jan so unlikely to be him.
AlbertK86
18-07-2022, 09:50 AM
Of course he will. The argument is will he be prolific as history suggests otherwise.
He hasn’t played in a team that create loads of chances in the top league.
I reckon he will score plenty for them.
Don’t think they are a great team but they are best of the rest and certainly attack much more than Utd when he was there
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matty_f
18-07-2022, 10:17 AM
Outside of the three experienced signings (including the new left back ) , almost all the players we have signed this calendar year have had almost no first team experience . It is not just their age, it’s that they are Learning team football . You seem to think it’s not an issue. Fair do’s. I say it will show in our performances this season and as a result, even if they are good, it will take longer to compete with the likes of Hearts. Who have a stronger mix of experience in their side .
But we can't exclude the 3 experienced players who are added to a squad that already includes Porteous, Stevenson, Hanlon, Newell, Magennis, Nisbet, Doidge, JDH and Mitchell.
That's a healthy mix of ages so even if we're signing younger players, they're not having to do it on their own.
matty_f
18-07-2022, 10:18 AM
There was plenty experience on the pitch yesterday. Got Hanlon to come back in to that and the left back is a decent age and played a decent number of games at a decent level. Youan is a bit less experienced but has played and scored at a decent level as well.
Don’t think experience (or lack of it) will hinder us too much. It’s just whether the players coming in are any good and whether those who have under performed over the last year can improve.
:agree:
JimBHibees
18-07-2022, 10:27 AM
I've posted twice about a midfielder we have been after . I'll go for midweek
Who?
theonlywayisup
18-07-2022, 10:28 AM
Outside of the three experienced signings (including the new left back ) , almost all the players we have signed this calendar year have had almost no first team experience . It is not just their age, it’s that they are Learning team football . You seem to think it’s not an issue. Fair do’s. I say it will show in our performances this season and as a result, even if they are good, it will take longer to compete with the likes of Hearts. Who have a stronger mix of experience in their side .
I'm with you on this bigwheel. Though I can fully understand the view of others that bringing in experienced players is no guarantee of success.
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 11:01 AM
I'm with you on this bigwheel. Though I can fully understand the view of others that bringing in experienced players is no guarantee of success.
Agree with that too..Compared to our various rivals for a top four spot, I’m expecting us to have much less experience in our squad and starting eleven..we will soon see, as league starts soon . The signing of foreign players and the work permit issues has made us behind the curve in terms of prep too..will likely mean it will be September before we are seeing our likely first 11 play regularly.
04Sauzee
18-07-2022, 11:24 AM
LJ interviewed again on Sky Sports and asked the question on how many additions he'd still like in the squad. Again he's said if he had to go with what he's got he'd be happy ( I'm sure most managers day that) ideally he'd still like 2 but if he got only one in the right position that would be great.
Also touched on the Porteous contract situation, love to keep him, it's Porto's prerogative to keep his option open but we are forever hopeful.
Dublin07
18-07-2022, 11:46 AM
Agree with that too..Compared to our various rivals for a top four spot, I’m expecting us to have much less experience in our squad and starting eleven..we will soon see, as league starts soon . The signing of foreign players and the work permit issues has made us behind the curve in terms of prep too..will likely mean it will be September before we are seeing our likely first 11 play regularly.
Although it’s frustrating regarding the work permits we are not behind the curve in prep. Hearts have played 3 friendlies and drew 2-2 with crawley, Aberdeen are at the same stage as us and their league cup games have been 2-0 not spectacular by any means. They have also had work permit issues. Utd have only played one friendly and lost 2-0. Motherwell have only played one friendly. I don’t think we have made a bad signing this summer. We will sign a CB at the very least. Yesterday we had 7 players out that you would consider for a starting place. We could have 3 of those ready for at Johnstone game.
bigwheel
18-07-2022, 12:10 PM
Although it’s frustrating regarding the work permits we are not behind the curve in prep. Hearts have played 3 friendlies and drew 2-2 with crawley, Aberdeen are at the same stage as us and their league cup games have been 2-0 not spectacular by any means. They have also had work permit issues. Utd have only played one friendly and lost 2-0. Motherwell have only played one friendly. I don’t think we have made a bad signing this summer. We will sign a CB at the very least. Yesterday we had 7 players out that you would consider for a starting place. We could have 3 of those ready for at Johnstone game.
The prep points you make are decent points. That’s one thing that the league cup does provide , a set of competitive games prior to the league kicking off .
xqnq1875
18-07-2022, 12:26 PM
Still think we’ll see 2-3 more players come in, Cb, cm, and another forward but it will most likely only be 2
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MWHIBBIES
18-07-2022, 12:28 PM
Still think we’ll see 2-3 more players come in, Cb, cm, and another forward but it will most likely only be 2
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Another forward just isn't happening. We have Melkersen, Doidge, Bojang, Youan and Nisbet already. CB and CM yes, very likely we sign both.
xqnq1875
18-07-2022, 12:41 PM
Another forward just isn't happening. We have Melkersen, Doidge, Bojang, Youan and Nisbet already. CB and CM yes, very likely we sign both.
Still think we’ll need another one (in my opinion) doidge hasn’t looked great so far both yesterday and the Falkirk game he was terrible just looks very lazy and uninterested I’m hoping this will change soon as I don’t think he’s a bad player at all and showed how good he can be i.e the 19/20 season when Ross came in
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MWHIBBIES
18-07-2022, 12:49 PM
Still think we’ll need another one (in my opinion) doidge hasn’t looked great so far both yesterday and the Falkirk game he was terrible just looks very lazy and uninterested I’m hoping this will change soon as I don’t think he’s a bad player at all and showed how good he can be i.e the 19/20 season when Ross came in
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Bloody hell.
Doidge is ANYTHING but lazy and uninterested. He absolutely wasn't terrible against Falkirk. He was quite first half, thats for sure, but everyone was dreadful first half. He had 2 efforts cleared off the line. Won a penalty yesterday and forced 2 good saves from the keeper. He has been by far our most likely forward to score in the 3 games so far, and obviously got a brilliant 13 minute hattrick against Clyde. I'd probably have Bojang starting on wednesday to get him fit, but Doidge is currently the one who'll be starting first day, and rightly so. Need to back him and give him minutes, he will score goals.
We've really only been playing with 1 out and out forward so far, fantasy stuff if we think we're having more the number we've got for that.
badabing67
18-07-2022, 12:56 PM
I wouldn’t expect Celtic to have any interest in Ryan.
The ugly sisters have a track record of weakening the opposition by either signing or unsettling influential players, they have done this as long as i can remember. Porto has plenty potential and i think it is fair to say is on the fringes of the international squad. Imo opinion we will see links with Porto to them from now until he decides on his own future. A Souttar situation with Celtic in January is not an unrealistic possibility as far as i can see if he is still here when this window closes.
Brightside
18-07-2022, 01:03 PM
The ugly sisters have a track record of weakening the opposition by either signing or unsettling influential players, they have done this as long as i can remember. Porto has plenty potential and i think it is fair to say is on the fringes of the international squad. Imo opinion we will see links with Porto to them from now until he decides on his own future. A Souttar situation with Celtic in January is not an unrealistic possibility as far as i can see if he is still here when this window closes.
When did they last sign a Hibs player? I'm not being nippy I just cant remember the last time they signed a players from us?
and we can;t count Kamberi. :greengrin
SlickShoes
18-07-2022, 01:04 PM
The ugly sisters have a track record of weakening the opposition by either signing or unsettling influential players, they have done this as long as i can remember. Porto has plenty potential and i think it is fair to say is on the fringes of the international squad. Imo opinion we will see links with Porto to them from now until he decides on his own future. A Souttar situation with Celtic in January is not an unrealistic possibility as far as i can see if he is still here when this window closes.
What exactly does Porteous have that Celtic need or even want? So far they have done nothing to upset or unsettle him other than just exist.
badabing67
18-07-2022, 01:04 PM
He scored 7 goals on 48 games in the prem. that’s as far from a safe bet as your going to find.
Yes but i think that was a lot to do with the way Micky Mellon was playing at DD Utd at the time. I think Shankland had little support and not a lot of chances TBF. Also scored one of the goals of the season a screamer from around the 1/2 way line if i remember right.
OldEast
18-07-2022, 01:07 PM
Still think we’ll need another one (in my opinion) doidge hasn’t looked great so far both yesterday and the Falkirk game he was terrible just looks very lazy and uninterested I’m hoping this will change soon as I don’t think he’s a bad player at all and showed how good he can be i.e the 19/20 season when Ross came in
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Once the others are all fit and available Doidge will struggle for game time.
BILLYHIBS
18-07-2022, 01:14 PM
When did they last sign a Hibs player? I'm not being nippy I just cant remember the last time they signed a players from us?
and we can;t count Kamberi. :greengrin
Scott Bain Scott Allan Deeks Griff although some might have been on loan
Porto would probably already be a Celtic player if he had knuckled down last season
Shudda had SJM but refused to pay the going rate
badabing67
18-07-2022, 01:15 PM
Although it’s frustrating regarding the work permits we are not behind the curve in prep. Hearts have played 3 friendlies and drew 2-2 with crawley, Aberdeen are at the same stage as us and their league cup games have been 2-0 not spectacular by any means. They have also had work permit issues. Utd have only played one friendly and lost 2-0. Motherwell have only played one friendly. I don’t think we have made a bad signing this summer. We will sign a CB at the very least. Yesterday we had 7 players out that you would consider for a starting place. We could have 3 of those ready for at Johnstone game.
STJ not having a great start either. I think Callum Davidson could be under pressure already, not having a much of a season last time out. I think it could be the best opening game we could have away from home. Here's hoping anyway.
Hibbyradge
18-07-2022, 01:17 PM
Scott Bain Scott Allan Deeks Griff although some might have been on loan
Porto would probably already be a Celtic player if he had knuckled down last season
Shudda had SJM but refused to pay the going rate
You can't count players they didn't sign, Billy :greengrin
BILLYHIBS
18-07-2022, 01:19 PM
You can't count players they didn't sign, Billy :greengrin
Worth a try thought I might be pushing it with squirrel 😀
badabing67
18-07-2022, 01:26 PM
What exactly does Porteous have that Celtic need or even want? So far they have done nothing to upset or unsettle him other than just exist.
Have you seen Carl Starfelt play against us ?
Stuart93
18-07-2022, 01:33 PM
Have you seen Carl Starfelt play against us ?
Porteous isn’t good enough for Celtic imo
I said this the other day but I’ve no idea what makes people think Porteous is levels above us.
badabing67
18-07-2022, 01:34 PM
When did they last sign a Hibs player? I'm not being nippy I just cant remember the last time they signed a players from us?
and we can;t count Kamberi. :greengrin
When was the last time they tried would be more to the point. They did try really hard for McGinn and blew it, and were also heavily linked to Boyler if i remember right. But that wouldn't be anything to do with targeting influential players. The same way Rangers were linked to Ramsay, Souttar etc
easty
18-07-2022, 01:51 PM
Porteous would be a good signing for Celtc in my opinion. Hope it doesn’t ever happen though.
Unseen work
18-07-2022, 02:04 PM
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Celtic got Porteous in January on a pre contract as a relatively cheap squad player that knows the league and is good.
At Hibs is issue imo is that he’s the main man and always thinks he needs to make things happen from centre half, his concentration also goes and he makes daft mistakes.
At Celtic I think he’d know he can’t get away with half the stuff he does and would simplify his game a lot and allow the better players to do the on the ball work. He would also listen to and respect his team mates more given the difference in standard.
Imo the way he’s playing is someone that’s frustrated as he thinks he should be getting a move and the complacency/loss of concentration is making him make some silly mistakes.
He’s undoubtedly a very good defender and very good on the ball.
A team that put a rocket up him and make him realise he’s not the main man would probably be perfect for him.
04Sauzee
18-07-2022, 02:14 PM
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Celtic got Porteous in January on a pre contract as a relatively cheap squad player that knows the league and is good.
At Hibs is issue imo is that he’s the main man and always thinks he needs to make things happen from centre half, his concentration also goes and he makes daft mistakes.
At Celtic I think he’d know he can’t get away with half the stuff he does and would simplify his game a lot and allow the better players to do the on the ball work. He would also listen to and respect his team mates more given the difference in standard.
Imo the way he’s playing is someone that’s frustrated as he thinks he should be getting a move and the complacency/loss of concentration is making him make some silly mistakes.
He’s undoubtedly a very good defender and very good on the ball.
A team that put a rocket up him and make him realise he’s not the main man would probably be perfect for him.
Celtic have Welsh who's 22 and contracted until 2025, they turned down bids for him last season, so they would have to move him on if they got Porteous, I couldn't see Celtic with both Welsh and Porteous. Just in my opinion of course.
Iain G
18-07-2022, 02:28 PM
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Celtic got Porteous in January on a pre contract as a relatively cheap squad player that knows the league and is good.
At Hibs is issue imo is that he’s the main man and always thinks he needs to make things happen from centre half, his concentration also goes and he makes daft mistakes.
At Celtic I think he’d know he can’t get away with half the stuff he does and would simplify his game a lot and allow the better players to do the on the ball work. He would also listen to and respect his team mates more given the difference in standard.
Imo the way he’s playing is someone that’s frustrated as he thinks he should be getting a move and the complacency/loss of concentration is making him make some silly mistakes.
He’s undoubtedly a very good defender and very good on the ball.
A team that put a rocket up him and make him realise he’s not the main man would probably be perfect for him.
I think he could end up at Villa, think Gerrard knows he is a good player in spite of all the noise.
Big_Franck
18-07-2022, 02:32 PM
We really need to get an upgrade on Doidge before the window closes at the end of August. His goals record for Hibs looks alright if you include all his scrappy goals against lower league ***** in the cups. In the last 2 games he hasn't even managed to perform against them though. His record in the league is a truer indication of his level and we clearly need better.
matty_f
18-07-2022, 02:42 PM
We really need to get an upgrade on Doidge before the window closes at the end of August. His goals record for Hibs looks alright if you include all his scrappy goals against lower league ***** in the cups. In the last 2 games he hasn't even managed to perform against them though. His record in the league is a truer indication of his level and we clearly need better.
Will we get rid of Melkersen as well? His record is worse over the last three games.
FWIW,I think Doidge has his work cut out to stay in the team when the other forwards are available.
MWHIBBIES
18-07-2022, 03:36 PM
We really need to get an upgrade on Doidge before the window closes at the end of August. His goals record for Hibs looks alright if you include all his scrappy goals against lower league ***** in the cups. In the last 2 games he hasn't even managed to perform against them though. His record in the league is a truer indication of his level and we clearly need better.
For his type of striker, his record is excellent. Compares very well to other big guys like mixu. Hibs have 5 strikers right now. Honestly, we'd be mental to go after another when we have other weaknesses. Doidge and Nisbet proven quality, youan and bojang new guys and melkersen the young talent. Quite happy with our strikers.
Mrimbetween
18-07-2022, 03:44 PM
Say another 2 come in, nice
How many will be in the squad after that ??
Losing track
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