Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[stuart-farquhar]

What is the starred out word there?

Farquhar. As in " I think he was right the first time"

[Onion]

I think he’s made a few comments over the last week that make it crystal clear he’s not happy. Talking about needing ready made players was the first sign. And he more or less said yesterday that some of the players we do have are lacking in quality.

If we don’t get a couple of those ready made players that he wants, this week, then he’ll be gone by the World Cup.

Sadly agree. if LJ cannot see what's needed or he can't convince Ron to release funds to fix the problem, he is toast.

Ron has to weigh up, fund the players we need to fix the problem now, or eventually fork out even more to sack LJ, recruit yet another manager and bring in yet more players. The problem ain't going away.

[snedzuk]

If we can’t get a new striker in, then Melkerson has to play 9. He’s desperate for the experience and he literally can’t be any worse than Doidge.

He'll get fed up. He runs (or feigns to run) off the shoulder of the last defender every time he's on the pitch, but as he does that, a cloak of invisibility seems to envelop him as no midfielder recognises that there might be space he can run into so they pass it across the back instead.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

You would make the assumption that before LJ signed a contract there were guarantees given and he was given a good scope of where the club was going and what the expectations were as a club and of him.

Is it that the club aren't living up to their side of the deal?

[Unseen work]

I think we’ll get the couple of players in we need, don’t know why but I’ve been pretty confident in that all window.

Centre half I think will be a loan going by Johnson’s comments but can see another midfielder and striker permanent.

[bingo70]

I think we’ll get the couple of players in we need, don’t know why but I’ve been pretty confident in that all window.

Centre half I think will be a loan going by Johnson’s comments but can see another midfielder and striker permanent.

I think we could get that guy from Wolves on loan who was at St Mirren last year. I also can’t see how we can’t sign a new defender. No way we can go into the next few months with only Hanlon and Porteous

IMO the compromise between the club and LJ to get these players in will be Lon signings with no option to buy. It’s clearly not a route we want to go down as a club but I think somethings got to give as the club and manager won’t want us going till January with what we’ve got.

[04Sauzee]

I think we could get that guy from Wolves on loan who was at St Mirren last year. I also can’t see how we can’t sign a new defender. No way we can go into the next few months with only Hanlon and Porteous

IMO the compromise between the club and LJ to get these players in will be Lon signings with no option to buy. It’s clearly not a route we want to go down as a club but I think somethings got to give as the club and manager won’t want us going till January with what we’ve got.

Conor Ronnan?
Scored a few goals and assists, watched him closely in the game we won 1-0 at Paisley last season. Not even sure what type of blayer he is ? No10? Boc to Box

Sure Aberdeen were very interested in him.

[bingo70]

Conor Ronnan?
Scored a few goals and assists, watched him closely in the game we won 1-0 at Paisley last season. Not even sure what type of blayer he is ? No10? Boc to Box

Sure Aberdeen were very interested in him.

Aye, that’s him. Aberdeen and Hearts were very keen but I know Hearts moved on and signed other people instead, hoping Aberdeen did too when they signed the boy from Liverpool.

Think Wolves said last week he’d be heading somewhere but not sure where, just guessing it could be us.

Scored a few great goals last season, don’t know about the rest of his game but we could desperately do with an attacking midfielder that’ll chip in with goals like he scored last year.

[Unseen work]

I think we could get that guy from Wolves on loan who was at St Mirren last year. I also can’t see how we can’t sign a new defender. No way we can go into the next few months with only Hanlon and Porteous

IMO the compromise between the club and LJ to get these players in will be Lon signings with no option to buy. It’s clearly not a route we want to go down as a club but I think somethings got to give as the club and manager won’t want us going till January with what we’ve got.

Could certainly see us trying.

Think Aberdeen are in the best position to get him, I’d have thought they have enough in that position but goodwins latest interview sounded like they were still after him.

Interestingly I saw some Swindon fans saying they can’t imagine McKirdy would be keen on us as it’s too far from London, he’s Chelsea daft too so don’t know if he goes to a lot of games.

Money talks though.

[Callum_62]

Could certainly see us trying.

Think Aberdeen are in the best position to get him, I’d have thought they have enough in that position but goodwins latest interview sounded like they were still after him.

Interestingly I saw some Swindon fans saying they can’t imagine McKirdy would be keen on us as it’s too far from London, he’s Chelsea daft too so don’t know if he goes to a lot of games.

Money talks though.Surley he's often playing at the same time chelsea are?

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[Centre Hawf]

Surley he's often playing at the same time chelsea are?

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Much easier to nip off to watch Chelsea play a champions league match or Sunday game from down south than it is up here.

[JohnM1875]

Much easier to nip off to watch Chelsea play a champions league match or Sunday game from down south than it is up here.

In which case I'd want him nowhere near Hibs. If he's more interested than watching Chelsea play (which I appreciate is just a rumour) than furthering his own career then he isn't what we need.

[Rumble de Thump]

In which case I'd want him nowhere near Hibs. If he's more interested than watching Chelsea play (which I appreciate is just a rumour) than furthering his own career then he isn't what we need.

It's not even a rumour.

[JohnM1875]

It's not even a rumour.

Eh? It's been reported loads. Unless you mean it's something stronger than a rumour? In which case I agree.

[18Craig75]

Mcgeady manages to support his team, Celtic Colts, so don’t see it being an issue for this guy.

[Rumble de Thump]

Eh? It's been reported loads. Unless you mean it's something stronger than a rumour? In which case I agree.

Nope.

[007]

Eh? It's been reported loads. Unless you mean it's something stronger than a rumour? In which case I agree.

What's been reported loads? That he's more interested in watching Chelsea than furthering his career?

[JohnM1875]

What's been reported loads? That he's more interested in watching Chelsea than furthering his career?

Yup, heard he has an Adrian Mutu tattoo on his leg and when he's at home he put's on a bald cap and only speaks in a fake Dutch accent claiming to be Arjen Robben.

[Is It On....]

fuzzbox :dunno:

"International Rescue Calling.."

[007]

Yup, heard he has an Adrian Mutu tattoo on his leg and when he's at home he put's on a bald cap and only speaks in a fake Dutch accent claiming to be Arjen Robben.

Well in that case it's a non-starter then.

[Cletus]

Kabongo Tshimanga

[Unseen work]

Kabongo Tshimanga

Something you’ve heard or someone you’d like?

[Centre Hawf]

Kabongo Tshimanga

Good goal record recently in non-league, I'm not one for turning our noses up at guys just because of the level they currently play at as sometimes guys just need an opportunity to build their careers.

That being said it would be another punt on something unknown which I think has been the issue this year.

[Wilson]

Kabongo Tshimanga

Bless you.

[hibees 7062]

Kabongo Tshimanga
I’m sure you can get tablets for that

[Unseen work]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-27855018

Doidge update

[McGruber]

Kabongo Tshimanga

Is this a suggestion or you having heard something?

[jeffers]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-27855018

Doidge update

How utterly depressing. Not surprised he doesn’t want to leave. If he’s being honest with himself he must realise he’s that bad no decent side will want him now.

[truehibernian]

How utterly depressing. Not surprised he doesn’t want to leave. If he’s being honest with himself he must realise he’s that bad no decent side will want him now.

There shouldn’t be any confusion in his head - he can knock on the manager’s door and ask. For me it’s a simple conversation with him, thanks for all your efforts but you’re now free to find another club . He’s not scoring, not offering anything on the pitch, so it’s hardly going to have an effect on motivation and might force his agent into action. Promote young Laidlaw in the meantime. Ruthless maybe, required, absolutely.

Lovely fella, but has fallen into that small niche of players at the club who are comfortable just getting by and coasting along.

[JimBHibees]

There shouldn’t be any confusion in his head - he can knock on the manager’s door and ask. For me it’s a simple conversation with him, thanks for all your efforts but you’re now free to find another club . He’s not scoring, not offering anything on the pitch, so it’s hardly going to have an effect on motivation and might force his agent into action. Promote young Laidlaw in the meantime. Ruthless maybe, required, absolutely.

Lovely fella, but has fallen into that small niche of players at the club who are comfortable just getting by and coasting along.

Agree there cant be any confusion. Issue is the length of his contract we cant force him to leave but options find him a new club he wants to play for and or agree a pay off. He is saying the right things from his perspective. Think he will leave this week either sign for someone or pay off.

[truehibernian]

Agree there cant be any confusion. Issue is the length of his contract we cant force him to leave but options find him a new club he wants to play for and or agree a pay off. He is saying the right things from his perspective. Think he will leave this week either sign for someone or pay off.

Hope so Jim, as I say, he’s been a decent player for us and I’d wish him well. Just think there should never be confusion in any player’s head if asked - players are never away from the gaffer’s door day to day.

I’d hope we are having the same conversation with Joe Newell too to be even more brutal.

[J-C]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-27855018

Doidge update


I love playing for this club as they gave me a lot more money and an extra 2 years, of course he doesn't want to leave, he'll drop wages immediately.

[JimBHibees]

Hope so Jim, as I say, he’s been a decent player for us and I’d wish him well. Just think there should never be confusion in any player’s head if asked - players are never away from the gaffer’s door day to day.

I’d hope we are having the same conversation with Joe Newell too to be even more brutal.

Agree on both completely going through the motions imo. Agree also he will know exactly the position he is in.

[JimBHibees]

I love playing for this club as they gave me a lot more money and an extra 2 years, of course he doesn't want to leave, he'll drop wages immediately.

Which is completely his right to do

[J-C]

Which is completely his right to do


I understand that, just very frustrated with the situation like the majority on here, we need better but due to Ross and Kensell giving him a bumper new extension, we're sort of stuck with a player not producing goals or assists.

[Unseen work]

I understand that, just very frustrated with the situation like the majority on here, we need better but due to Ross and Kensell giving him a bumper new extension, we're sort of stuck with a player not producing goals or assists.

This is where the club are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Doidge started off brilliantly last season before getting injured, a lot were saying he was better than Nisbet and he was running into the final year of his deal.

It’s easy in hindsight to say it was a mistake giving him one but if we never and he scored on his return they would get criticised.

I get these people get paid to do a job but they can’t tell the future.

[Lago]

There shouldn’t be any confusion in his head - he can knock on the manager’s door and ask. For me it’s a simple conversation with him, thanks for all your efforts but you’re now free to find another club . He’s not scoring, not offering anything on the pitch, so it’s hardly going to have an effect on motivation and might force his agent into action. Promote young Laidlaw in the meantime. Ruthless maybe, required, absolutely.

Lovely fella, but has fallen into that small niche of players at the club who are comfortable just getting by and coasting along.
Yip Hibs are a cushy number for him, turn up and keep his head down and, what's not to like?

[PaulSmith]

This is where the club are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Doidge started off brilliantly last season before getting injured, a lot were saying he was better than Nisbet and he was running into the final year of his deal.

It’s easy in hindsight to say it was a mistake giving him one but if we never and he scored on his return they would get criticised.

I get these people get paid to do a job but they can’t tell the future.

Giving an average player another 3 years to take him up to his 32nd birthday, on a top wage with zero sell on value was madness then and it’s been proven to be.

I’ll give Ben Kensell some credit here as he was dead against it but went went with Jack Ross.

[J-C]

This is where the club are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Doidge started off brilliantly last season before getting injured, a lot were saying he was better than Nisbet and he was running into the final year of his deal.

It’s easy in hindsight to say it was a mistake giving him one but if we never and he scored on his return they would get criticised.

I get these people get paid to do a job but they can’t tell the future.


He must realise he's dropped his standards and cannot now play at the same level as he did before, unfortunately we need better but need to move on dead wood to bring them in, as I said in another post, many supporters are just frustrated with the situation.

[JimBHibees]

Giving an average player another 3 years to take him up to his 32nd birthday, on a top wage with zero sell on value was madness then and it’s been proven to be.

I’ll give Ben Kensell some credit here as he was dead against it but went went with Jack Ross.

How do you know that?

[B.H.F.C]

These contracts dished out to under performing players are killing us.

We have to bring players in even if we can’t move them on. If we don’t, we’re in real danger of a relegation battle.

What an utterly ridiculous and depressing situation to be in.

[A Hi-Bee]

Anybody been seen in Greggs, or even on a plane to Edinburgh, we need some good rumours to keep us going this week, I heard Dundee United have offered anyone their goalie, and KT was seen at the top of Easter Road yesterday.
:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

These contracts dished out to under performing players are killing us.

We have to bring players in even if we can’t move them on. If we don’t, we’re in real danger of a relegation battle.

What an utterly ridiculous and depressing situation to be in.

Agree not great that is for sure. Kind of what happens with a turnover of managers you end up with a bloated squad and players on longer contracts who don't want to leave.

[JimBHibees]

Anybody been seen in Greggs, or even on a plane to Edinburgh, we need some good rumours to keep us going this week, I heard Dundee United have offered anyone their goalie, and KT was seen at the top of Easter Road yesterday.
:greengrin

A poster Cletus posted this name earlier in the thread no idea if a player he likes or has heard something :greengrin on the face of it the sort of central forward we need

Kabongo Tshimanga

[PaulSmith]

How do you know that?

He was quite open about either before or just after Ross was sacked, can’t actually remember the timeline.

Edit - it was a 2 year extension rather than 3.

[Heisenberg]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

Brilliant.

At least we’ve spent a fortune on our development team though.

[Northernhibee]

Brilliant.

At least we’ve spent a fortune on our development team though.

Again, like in January.

Gordon, Gordon and Kensell need to stick to the commercial side and get an actual football person in. They don’t have a ****ing scooby.

[H18S NX]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!...........That is so ....kin depressing.

[Spike Mandela]

There shouldn’t be any confusion in his head - he can knock on the manager’s door and ask. For me it’s a simple conversation with him, thanks for all your efforts but you’re now free to find another club . He’s not scoring, not offering anything on the pitch, so it’s hardly going to have an effect on motivation and might force his agent into action. Promote young Laidlaw in the meantime. Ruthless maybe, required, absolutely.

Lovely fella, but has fallen into that small niche of players at the club who are comfortable just getting by and coasting along.

Remember when we signed him and he couldn’t score for ages. He was written off then, but came good. Why write him off now?

I know he’s older, had a long term injury and form doesn’t look great but age wise he isn’t over the hill yet.

Perhaps with a bit of support, a bit of good coaching, a bit of decent supply from the midfield and a dollop of good fortune he could hit the goal trail again.

If he is determined to see out his contract it’s up to the coaching staff to get good value out of him.

[Billy Whizz]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

What’s the situation with Mitchell. I know he’s injured, but was he not told he could move back down south for family reasons

[xqnq1875]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

Going to be another absolutely disaster of a season instead of investing in some decent quality players we’ve blew half the budget on youth players again


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[Ronniekirk]

What’s the situation with Mitchell. I know he’s injured, but was he not told he could move back down south for family reasons

He has to go and see a specialist re his injury so he won’t be going anywhere this window and we won’t see him playing fir hibs anytime soon
If L J is now reduced to having to get injured players back sooner This is what will happen They will be pushed too quickly and get a set back
It’s all a bit doom and gloom being s Hibee just now
Looks like it’s down to the B team to develop the players who aren’t ready for first team
Am hoping L J ish just damping expectation But the above could well be our reality till next window
What they aren’t factoring in is the possibility of a few more injuries to key first team players as we seem to get a few back and a few more get injured

[Stuart93]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

Superb.

An abysmal transfer window.

The way our players keep talking about waiting on it to “click” worries me. I reckon we’re going to be waiting all season for it clicking.

[bingo70]

Superb.

An abysmal transfer window.

The way our players keep talking about waiting on it to “click” worries me. I reckon we’re going to be waiting all season for it clicking.

I don’t think we were ever realistically going to start this season strongly. Getting the points in the Hearts and Rangers game has been a big bonus.

It’s a huge If and if I was LJ I wouldn’t gamble on it but if Magennis can stay fit that’s a huge boost, add to that McGeady and Nisbet returning that’s three really good reasons to believe we could kick on as the season progresses.

I also think Tavares, Kenneh and Youann could get better as the season goes on.

There’s no way we can’t sign another central defender though, that would be madness. Even if it’s a young guy on loan to offer competition (yes I know Nathan Wood was crap)

[GreenCastle]

I don’t think we were ever realistically going to start this season strongly. Getting the points in the Hearts and Rangers game has been a big bonus.

It’s a huge If and if I was LJ I wouldn’t gamble on it but if Magennis can stay fit that’s a huge boost, add to that McGeady and Nisbet returning that’s three really good reasons to believe we could kick on as the season progresses.

I also think Tavares, Kenneh and Youann could get better as the season goes on.

There’s no way we can’t sign another central defender though, that would be madness. Even if it’s a young guy on loan to offer competition (yes I know Nathan Wood was crap)

Sorry but this kind of post just doesn’t make sense.

Hearts and Rangers points a bonus ? 2 points out of 6 and 0 out of 6 from Livi and St Mirren?

Surely Livi and St Mirren are easier fixtures ?

The injured players…we won’t see them for a while and we should not be waiting for them or relying on them to change our season. We made that mistake with Doidge and look how that’s turned out.

Tavares and Kenneth could even be trusted to play Saturday.

Youann will be decent if we actually had a central midfield giving him service.

A young centre back is the last thing we need - we need a centre back who has played games and can organise - not a young guy as we already have McClelland who can’t even get minutes as he’s not at the level.

[jeffers]

I don’t think we were ever realistically going to start this season strongly. Getting the points in the Hearts and Rangers game has been a big bonus.

It’s a huge If and if I was LJ I wouldn’t gamble on it but if Magennis can stay fit that’s a huge boost, add to that McGeady and Nisbet returning that’s three really good reasons to believe we could kick on as the season progresses.

I also think Tavares, Kenneh and Youann could get better as the season goes on.

There’s no way we can’t sign another central defender though, that would be madness. Even if it’s a young guy on loan to offer competition (yes I know Nathan Wood was crap)

If you are meaning playing Hearts and the Huns early on was likely to result in us losing some points and as such not make a strong start then yes fair enough. But it doesn’t mean we can’t have performed better, especially in our last two away games. We were utter pish on Saturday and weren’t much better in the first half at Livingston.

Our new signings in the main are nowhere near good enough, at least at present, some may never be. We are back to relying on a player who has been with us for a few seasons and another who is never fit, returning and making a big difference, by which time we could well be near the foot of the table.

[500miles]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

I think he's trying to get his excuses in. He's pointed fingers continually and his public bashing of Miller at the weekend was the next step in a pattern of behaviour.

[Since452]

Johnson now talking about trying to get injured players back because we won’t be able to move much in the market. All aboard the relegation battle express!

That's what happens when you have players on long contracts that nobody wants. His hands are tied.

[04Sauzee]

Seems bizarre that when questioned a few weeks ago about Luke McCormick LJ didn't dismiss it entirely, a few days later he moves to another club for a fee and now we are to believe we aren't going to make signings and the speculation is that the cash isn't there in the budget? Or is it that the squad is bloated and we need to move bodies on in the first instance?

[jeffers]

I think he's trying to get his excuses in. He's pointed fingers continually and his public bashing of Miller at the weekend was the next step in a pattern of behaviour.

What did he say about Miller, I missed that. He was absolutely awful on Saturday though, he looked like a fit fan had won a competition to get the last few minutes of a game when he came on.

[Springbank]

It would feel easier to support the team in 22/23 if we released Doidge Newell & JDH, and, instead played the youth & development boys... who would not have the bad influence of slow, immobile senior pros affecting their development.

A bit of pace, bite, tempo, movement & you'll get 100% more out of the (exciting) Youan, Boyle combination.

[Billy Whizz]

What did he say about Miller, I missed that. He was absolutely awful on Saturday though, he looked like a fit fan had won a competition to get the last few minutes of a game when he came on.

He didn’t get his boots on in time, to get on the park

[Iain G]

I think he's trying to get his excuses in. He's pointed fingers continually and his public bashing of Miller at the weekend was the next step in a pattern of behaviour.

What was his public bashing of Miller?

[Billy Whizz]

What was his public bashing of Miller?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/lee-johnson-brands-hibs-lewis-24875309

[jeffers]

He didn’t get his boots on in time, to get on the park

Aaah cheers Billy. By the look of things he’d maybe rushed it and put them on the wrong feet.

[Billy Whizz]

Aaah cheers Billy. By the look of things he’d maybe rushed it and put them on the wrong feet.

Made me laugh, but summed up his performance

[Stuart93]

He didn’t get his boots on in time, to get on the park

I’m sure it was his boots shin pads and strip.

[bingo70]

Sorry but this kind of post just doesn’t make sense.

Hearts and Rangers points a bonus ? 2 points out of 6 and 0 out of 6 from Livi and St Mirren?

Surely Livi and St Mirren are easier fixtures ?

The injured players…we won’t see them for a while and we should not be waiting for them or relying on them to change our season. We made that mistake with Doidge and look how that’s turned out.

Tavares and Kenneth could even be trusted to play Saturday.

Youann will be decent if we actually had a central midfield giving him service.

A young centre back is the last thing we need - we need a centre back who has played games and can organise - not a young guy as we already have McClelland who can’t even get minutes as he’s not at the level.

To answer your last point first, just because McCelland (or the likes of Nathan Wood) weren’t ready, doesn’t mean that all young players aren’t.

I thought it was a bonus to get points against Rangers and Hearts as they’re both better sides than us.

Livingston is a losable game, they’ve got a terrific record at home. I only saw the second half of that game and we played well in it and deserved to win (or at least get a point)

The game on Saturday was a shocker and we were terrible but I still think there’s been a huge over reaction to it.

I think we’ve been better this season than last season (league games only, not talking about the league cup) and we will get better still when injured players come back and new players start to settle.

I appreciate I’m in the minority with that view but I don’t care.

[Spike Mandela]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/lee-johnson-brands-hibs-lewis-24875309

Something that could probably have been kept in the dressing room but I think we all agree the laddie probably needs a bit of tough medicine right now. Maybe Johnson using this gentle criticism in the media to fire a shot across the bows of the entire squad about being more professional.

[flash]

Any chance all the angst and hand wringing could be posted on one of the several threads created for that very purpose leaving this one free for any transfer rumours and speculation?

It's two days before deadline day and loads of us will be checking this thread regularly and it's much easier to find any news when the thread isn't full of stuff that has nothing to do with transfers.

Cheers.

[Willis1875]

I wonder if LJ wanted Boyle back at the club or if he had earmarked the money we have spent on bringing Boyle back for 2/3 established players in key positions.
His tone has changed somewhat since we got Boyler back which gives off the impression that the pot is now dry.
It’s doubtful he will have got much say in bringing MB back

[bingo70]

Any chance all the angst and hand wringing could be posted on one of the several threads created for that very purpose leaving this one free for any transfer rumours and speculation?

It's two days before deadline day and loads of us will be checking this thread regularly and it's much easier to find any news when the thread isn't full of stuff that has nothing to do with transfers.

Cheers.

Agree with the sentiments Flash, the OTT hysteria doing my heid in too.

There isn’t any transfer rumours to discuss though. I’ll maybe go and make one up.

[Unseen work]

Something that could probably have been kept in the dressing room but I think we all agree the laddie probably needs a bit of tough medicine right now. Maybe Johnson using this gentle criticism in the media to fire a shot across the bows of the entire squad about being more professional.

I’m sure it was picked up by the media first, can’t remember where but one outlet said how mcallister was raging and shouted “be ready” or words to that effect at Miller.

Maybe just a case of Johnson clarifying what actually happened

[SlickShoes]

I wonder if LJ wanted Boyle back at the club or if he had earmarked the money we have spent on bringing Boyle back for 2/3 established players in key positions.
His tone has changed somewhat since we got Boyler back which gives off the impression that the pot is now dry.
It’s doubtful he will have got much say in bringing MB back

We pretty much had to bring him back though and personally I think it’s a great signing regardless of what else got bumped because of it, even if we do have to wait longer for others or wait until other players finally leave.

This place is pretty full of vitriol for the club at the moment and if Ron didn’t make the Boyle deal happen I can’t imagine how negative things would be right now.

I really hope we bring in someone soon as I don’t know if there is a way to get those midfielders we have creating things since they’ve now gone years of doing the bare minimum

[GreenGray]

Seems bizarre that when questioned a few weeks ago about Luke McCormick LJ didn't dismiss it entirely, a few days later he moves to another club for a fee and now we are to believe we aren't going to make signings and the speculation is that the cash isn't there in the budget? Or is it that the squad is bloated and we need to move bodies on in the first instance?

I’m a bit confused also with noises coming from the club, we were heavily rumoured to be spending fees on McCormick, Sosa and McKirdy. But now there’s no money to be spent?


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[CapitalGreen]

I’m a bit confused also with noises coming from the club, we were heavily rumoured to be spending fees on McCormick, Sosa and McKirdy. But now there’s no money to be spent?


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I don’t think fees are the issue, it will be our bloated wage bill. Rightly, the club will have a wage-to-turnover ratio target it wants to operate within which is why we need to move players on. Doidge alone will cost us in the region of £500K in wages over the remainder of his contract.

[bingo70]

I’m a bit confused also with noises coming from the club, we were heavily rumoured to be spending fees on McCormick, Sosa and McKirdy. But now there’s no money to be spent?


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Spent our money on Boyle?

Playing a negotiating game with clubs wanting more money out of us?

Managing expectations just in case we’re not successful in getting the players we are targetting?

No idea though, just guessing.

[Callum_62]

Anyone have any update on the possible Mckirdy deal?

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[bingo70]

That Nottingham Forest winger that was due to sign for Hearts that someone on here was creaming themselves about is signing for Sheffield Wednesday instead.

[04Sauzee]

That Nottingham Forest winger that was due to sign for Hearts that someone on here was creaming themselves about is signing for Sheffield Wednesday instead.

Seen that yesterday, find it strange that Forrest see it better that he goes to league 1 team Wednesday rather than Hearts who are playing European football. I know Wednesday are favs for promotion and I guess it's only what an HR door to door but I honestly thought playing in Scotland for Hearts would be good for him.

[CapitalGreen]

Seen that yesterday, find it strange that Forrest see it better that he goes to league 1 team Wednesday rather than Hearts who are playing European football. I know Wednesday are favs for promotion and I guess it's only what an HR door to door but I honestly thought playing in Scotland for Hearts would be good for him.

He can probably sign for Sheffield without having to move, it’s only an hour up the road.

[McGruber]

To answer your last point first, just because McCelland (or the likes of Nathan Wood) weren’t ready, doesn’t mean that all young players aren’t.

I thought it was a bonus to get points against Rangers and Hearts as they’re both better sides than us.

Livingston is a losable game, they’ve got a terrific record at home. I only saw the second half of that game and we played well in it and deserved to win (or at least get a point)

The game on Saturday was a shocker and we were terrible but I still think there’s been a huge over reaction to it.

I think we’ve been better this season than last season (league games only, not talking about the league cup) and we will get better still when injured players come back and new players start to settle.

I appreciate I’m in the minority with that view but I don’t care.

I agree with you and I'm in that same minority.

[Mutu]

I agree with you and I'm in that same minority.

Same boat too.

[matty_f]

If Johnson is needing to wait got the injured players back then we’re going to be out of the running before they’ve had a chance to make a difference. Rocky is two months away, Nisbet more than that and who knows for Magennis?

We’ve needed a centre half since Ross was in charge. I accept that we signed Rocky and so it’s not like it’s been ignored completely but we needed more than that, it’s been the most obvious weakness for seasons now.

I have no complaints about the amount of money spent this summer, and I can understand why we haven’t got money left to spend as a result. Hope that money has been spent is up for criticism though, as we’ve got a load of signings that the manager won’t play in favour of the team that was ****ing ***** last season. No wonder folk are losing their heads about it.

[sleeping giant]

If Johnson is needing to wait got the injured players back then we’re going to be out of the running before they’ve had a chance to make a difference. Rocky is two months away, Nisbet more than that and who knows for Magennis?

We’ve needed a centre half since Ross was in charge. I accept that we signed Rocky and so it’s not like it’s been ignored completely but we needed more than that, it’s been the most obvious weakness for seasons now.

I have no complaints about the amount of money spent this summer, and I can understand why we haven’t got money left to spend as a result. Hope that money has been spent is up for criticism though, as we’ve got a load of signings that the manager won’t play in favour of the team that was ****ing ***** last season. No wonder folk are losing their heads about it.

Yip.
Finding it increasingly difficult to have a positive
outlook for the season.

[J-C]

I’m sure it was his boots shin pads and strip.

Surely you'd sit on the bench with boots on and all you needed to do was slip the shin pads on, no wonder he wasn't happy.

[bingo70]

If Johnson is needing to wait got the injured players back then we’re going to be out of the running before they’ve had a chance to make a difference. Rocky is two months away, Nisbet more than that and who knows for Magennis?

We’ve needed a centre half since Ross was in charge. I accept that we signed Rocky and so it’s not like it’s been ignored completely but we needed more than that, it’s been the most obvious weakness for seasons now.

I have no complaints about the amount of money spent this summer, and I can understand why we haven’t got money left to spend as a result. Hope that money has been spent is up for criticism though, as we’ve got a load of signings that the manager won’t play in favour of the team that was ****ing ***** last season. No wonder folk are losing their heads about it.

I’ve been pretty relaxed about the defenders situation. I’ve always felt whoever was being signed wouldn’t be any better than Hanlon and Porteous anyway so they’d only likely sit on the bench most of the time.

I do think that’s changed a bit now though, I think Hanlon has looked very poor when he’s played this season and with Rocky injured we can’t just go with what we’ve got.

I’d be fine with loaning a good young player from a club down south, even if there’s been one or two that haven’t worked out in the past.

[Stuart93]

To answer your last point first, just because McCelland (or the likes of Nathan Wood) weren’t ready, doesn’t mean that all young players aren’t.

I thought it was a bonus to get points against Rangers and Hearts as they’re both better sides than us.

Livingston is a losable game, they’ve got a terrific record at home. I only saw the second half of that game and we played well in it and deserved to win (or at least get a point)

The game on Saturday was a shocker and we were terrible but I still think there’s been a huge over reaction to it.

I think we’ve been better this season than last season (league games only, not talking about the league cup) and we will get better still when injured players come back and new players start to settle.

I appreciate I’m in the minority with that view but I don’t care.

But for us to be better when the injured players come back they need to hit the ground running, that’s a big ask for players who’ve been out for a lengthy period.

The new players can only start to settle with game time. The starting 11 on Saturday was made up of the majority of the failures from last season. The majority of our signings were on the bench. That’s ominous.

Appreciate you’re having a positive outlook on things but for me there’s been nothing to suggest that, against the “weaker” sides in the league, anything’s changed from last season from a results and scoring goals perspective. We’re also still losing the same ***** goals we were last season as well, our defending is laughable at times.

[matty_f]

I’ve been pretty relaxed about the defenders situation. I’ve always felt whoever was being signed wouldn’t be any better than Hanlon and Porteous anyway so they’d only likely sit on the bench most of the time.

I do think that’s changed a bit now though, I think Hanlon has looked very poor when he’s played this season and with Rocky injured we can’t just go with what we’ve got.

I’d be fine with loaning a good young player from a club down south, even if there’s been one or two that haven’t worked out in the past.

I think the issue with that, is that this team lacks a huge amount of character. It’s not enough to turn it on in the TV games against Rangers and Celtic etc, we need fill with the work rate and determination of the teams we face week in/week out.

From the team on Saturday, I’d say possibly only Lewis Stevenson looked like a player that was going everything he could to not be on the losing team.

If none of the signings we’ve made are going to play every week and we’re relying on this bunch and a loan defender brought in to cover, we’re goosed.

[bingo70]

But for us to be better when the injured players come back they need to hit the ground running, that’s a big ask for players who’ve been out for a lengthy period.

The new players can only start to settle with game time. The starting 11 on Saturday was made up of the majority of the failures from last season. The majority of our signings were on the bench. That’s ominous.

Appreciate you’re having a positive outlook on things but for me there’s been nothing to suggest that, against the “weaker” sides in the league, anything’s changed from last season from a results and scoring goals perspective. We’re also still losing the same ***** goals we were last season as well, our defending is laughable at times.

Just look at how we’ve finished games we’ve not been winning to see the difference from last year. We’re trying to play on the front foot much more compared to last year. We’re not doing it for long enough in games and too often we’ve not done it from the first minute but there is a difference compared to last year. Game on Saturday is the exception to that, we were dreadful.

I’m trying to be positive but I also think I’m being realistic. I can’t believe we’ve not signed a central midfielder that’ll press on and score goals. I do accept though that’s not a complete right off though as Magennis could be that man if he can get and stay fit. If I was LJ I wouldn’t bank on that happening but it still might.

Defensive situation is a concern.

Going forward any team missing Magennis, Nisbet and McGeady would find it hard to replace them IMO.

[Niffy]

Surely you'd sit on the bench with boots on and all you needed to do was slip the shin pads on, no wonder he wasn't happy.

Management need to take the blame on this if they have let players get so lax. It maybe shows the laziness built up in the squad.

[bingo70]

I think the issue with that, is that this team lacks a huge amount of character. It’s not enough to turn it on in the TV games against Rangers and Celtic etc, we need fill with the work rate and determination of the teams we face week in/week out.

From the team on Saturday, I’d say possibly only Lewis Stevenson looked like a player that was going everything he could to not be on the losing team.

If none of the signings we’ve made are going to play every week and we’re relying on this bunch and a loan defender brought in to cover, we’re goosed.

I think the team showed character to score the late goal against St Johnstone and I think the team showed lots of character in the second half against Livingston so it’s not just the big games.

I don’t think character has been the problem for this team, it’s the lack of quality going forward from midfield IMO.

[Trinity Hibee]

Gary Cahill and efe Ambrose both free agents

[Stuart93]

Just look at how we’ve finished games we’ve not been winning to see the difference from last year. We’re trying to play on the front foot much more compared to last year. We’re not doing it for long enough in games and too often we’ve not done it from the first minute but there is a difference compared to last year. Game on Saturday is the exception to that, we were dreadful.

I’m trying to be positive but I also think I’m being realistic. I can’t believe we’ve not signed a central midfielder that’ll press on and score goals. I do accept though that’s not a complete right off though as Magennis could be that man if he can get and stay fit. If I was LJ I wouldn’t bank on that happening but it still might.

Defensive situation is a concern.

Going forward any team missing Magennis, Nisbet and McGeady would find it hard to replace them IMO.

But surely the fact we’re leaving it until that late is a concern in itself? When was the last time we played well from get go? I’m struggling to think of a game so far this season in the league.

Pinning our hopes on magennis staying fit has been happening for 3 seasons now. It’s not an excuse anymore to not go out and find a good quality midfielder.

It’s more than just a concern. Rocky out long term means we’re relying on a young laddie who isn’t ready and another who’d basically retired last season.

Of course any team would find it difficult but it doesn’t even seem we’ve attempted to. A few days left in the window and we’re still requiring a full spine of the team. To wait on injured players coming back and getting up to speed means we’re writing off potentially half the season.

[matty_f]

I think the team showed character to score the late goal against St Johnstone and I think the team showed lots of character in the second half against Livingston so it’s not just the big games.

I don’t think character has been the problem for this team, it’s the lack of quality going forward from midfield IMO.

I think the team fought well against St Johnstone and deserved the win. At Johnstone weren't interested in playing though, they just tried to defend their goal and run down the clock, we just kept going. No complaints there.

Livi, however, was a disgrace. A fightback of sorts in the second half couldn't make up for the first half which was pitiful.

As soon as we had the setback of conceding on Saturday folk had a good idea of how the game would pan out because St Johnstone was the exception. That group of players over a considerable period of time now, have shown that they're not up to it for where we want to be.

That they can turn it on now and again just shows that they're selling us short, imho.

[SlickShoes]

If Johnson is needing to wait got the injured players back then we’re going to be out of the running before they’ve had a chance to make a difference. Rocky is two months away, Nisbet more than that and who knows for Magennis?

We’ve needed a centre half since Ross was in charge. I accept that we signed Rocky and so it’s not like it’s been ignored completely but we needed more than that, it’s been the most obvious weakness for seasons now.

I have no complaints about the amount of money spent this summer, and I can understand why we haven’t got money left to spend as a result. Hope that money has been spent is up for criticism though, as we’ve got a load of signings that the manager won’t play in favour of the team that was ****ing ***** last season. No wonder folk are losing their heads about it.

I think I'd be less negative if a team full of new players lost to St Mirren, because it was a team so similar to last season we are just sick of seeing it, if it was the new lads you could chalk it up to them settling in or something, but instead we see the same core of the team do the thing they have done for over a year now.

[matty_f]

I think I'd be less negative if a team full of new players lost to St Mirren, because it was a team so similar to last season we are just sick of seeing it, if it was the new lads you could chalk it up to them settling in or something, but instead we see the same core of the team do the thing they have done for over a year now.

That's what triggered my ire this weekend as much as anything.

What do we expect to be different when it's the same old, same old?

It's borderline unforgivable that we had a period in that game yesterday where not one outfield player was not here last season - a season that was a huge disappointment and underachievement.

We've got Darren McGregor on the bench, a legend, but one who effectively did the "that's me finished now, folks" lap of honour at the end of last season and was publicly moved to the development squad to support his coaching career at the start of this season.

It's actually farcical. I'm getting annoyed again thinking about it!

[Lago]

To answer your last point first, just because McCelland (or the likes of Nathan Wood) weren’t ready, doesn’t mean that all young players aren’t.

I thought it was a bonus to get points against Rangers and Hearts as they’re both better sides than us.

Livingston is a losable game, they’ve got a terrific record at home. I only saw the second half of that game and we played well in it and deserved to win (or at least get a point)

The game on Saturday was a shocker and we were terrible but I still think there’s been a huge over reaction to it.

I think we’ve been better this season than last season (league games only, not talking about the league cup) and we will get better still when injured players come back and new players start to settle.

I appreciate I’m in the minority with that view but I don’t care.
I agree with you, for what it's worth 👍

[B.H.F.C]

That's what triggered my ire this weekend as much as anything.

What do we expect to be different when it's the same old, same old?

It's borderline unforgivable that we had a period in that game yesterday where not one outfield player was not here last season - a season that was a huge disappointment and underachievement.

We've got Darren McGregor on the bench, a legend, but one who effectively did the "that's me finished now, folks" lap of honour at the end of last season and was publicly moved to the development squad to support his coaching career at the start of this season.

It's actually farcical. I'm getting annoyed again thinking about it!

Pretty much how I feel.

I’d take it a step further and say that I was annoyed before I even made it to the game because I though it was so bloody predictable what I was going to see, once I saw the team.

We actually then started on the front foot, playing high up the park but then lose a goal the first time they go up the park and that was that.

I just can’t for the life of me work out why we’re continuing to neglect the positions we have. The reaction at full time was a bad one but it wasn’t just about that performance IMO, it was about the whole running of the club at the moment.

[Unseen work]

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Tshimanga on as a sub for chesterfield today.

Imagine the poster that mentioned him was out of hope rather than substance

[LunasBoots]

I think I'd be less negative if a team full of new players lost to St Mirren, because it was a team so similar to last season we are just sick of seeing it, if it was the new lads you could chalk it up to them settling in or something, but instead we see the same core of the team do the thing they have done for over a year now.

Exactly, that's why most of us are so annoyed.

The talk of 'we've leant lessons' after last seasons shambles just seems like more talk to me, same issues and virtually the same team.

[SlickShoes]

That's what triggered my ire this weekend as much as anything.

What do we expect to be different when it's the same old, same old?

It's borderline unforgivable that we had a period in that game yesterday where not one outfield player was not here last season - a season that was a huge disappointment and underachievement.

We've got Darren McGregor on the bench, a legend, but one who effectively did the "that's me finished now, folks" lap of honour at the end of last season and was publicly moved to the development squad to support his coaching career at the start of this season.

It's actually farcical. I'm getting annoyed again thinking about it!

When I got out of the car on Saturday and saw the team I was worried, but the fans gave them a good backing even after going a goal down. You could just see how it was going to go from the very start though, the way we played was just the same as it's been for ages in those key areas. Then later in the game you have us almost losing more goals because Hanlon can't hold the ball away from the attacked, Porto is trying to take someone on instead of just passing it back to Marshall, and the centre of the midfield is just rolling the ball about at a snails pace, no just looks and passes, it's look touch touch touch pass.

So I am at the same point as you where I am trying to be positive, I am backing the manager, but until we really do change the personnel or the way we are playing we are going to keep feeling the same way and the fact it's been ongoing for a whole year means just thinking about it is annoying.

Is there something that professional football coaches and managers are seeing that we as fans aren't?

[Lago]

Ross Barley a free agent, just saying.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ross Barley a free agent, just saying.

Rangers and Celtic both interested.

Will probably be looking for £50k a week or more.

[BoomtownHibees]

Ross Barley a free agent, just saying.

Need someone to separate the wheat from the chaff

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[truehibernian]

Management need to take the blame on this if they have let players get so lax. It maybe shows the laziness built up in the squad.

I drew comparisons with the 2014 squad yesterday, and sorry to again do so, but under Butcher (and Pat) some players were using phones and texting whilst on the bench back then. Not even having kit and boots on is ridiculous- so is it not being noticed by the two coaches, physio, and other pros though. Just underlines the lack of attention.

This is a relegation squad in the making, make no mistake. If Boyle gets injured or gets a poor run of form, we’re toiling.

[Aldo]

I drew comparisons with the 2014 squad yesterday, and sorry to again do so, but under Butcher (and Pat) some players were using phones and texting whilst on the bench back then. Not even having kit and boots on is ridiculous- so is it not being noticed by the two coaches, physio, and other pros though. Just underlines the lack of attention.

This is a relegation squad in the making, make no mistake. If Boyle gets injured or gets a poor run of form, we’re toiling.

We are toiling already TH.

No fluency, energy or ability to take the team to the opponent’s. Easy to get up for Derby or games v Rangers but they need to step up every game!


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[One Day Soon]

I drew comparisons with the 2014 squad yesterday, and sorry to again do so, but under Butcher (and Pat) some players were using phones and texting whilst on the bench back then. Not even having kit and boots on is ridiculous- so is it not being noticed by the two coaches, physio, and other pros though. Just underlines the lack of attention.

This is a relegation squad in the making, make no mistake. If Boyle gets injured or gets a poor run of form, we’re toiling.


I could just about live with all this 5hite if we'd seen the club at least attempt to address the glaring weaknesses in the spine. If we'd signed a CB, CM playmaker and a CF some or all of whom had then gone on to pick up injuries you would think 'we are the unluckiest *******s in this league' and suck it up. Instead we've absolutely gone all 'fur coat and nae knickers' with the deeply unsurprising consequence that the first team squad is weak, our play is turgid and we're pleading poverty for further transfers.

**** off, we all knew what needed done and unless you make those signings in the next 72 hours or so then youve completely ****ed it.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

If we never had an injury list. What would be our priorities? I still reckon CH but that’s it.

[JimBHibees]

To answer your last point first, just because McCelland (or the likes of Nathan Wood) weren’t ready, doesn’t mean that all young players aren’t.

I thought it was a bonus to get points against Rangers and Hearts as they’re both better sides than us.

Livingston is a losable game, they’ve got a terrific record at home. I only saw the second half of that game and we played well in it and deserved to win (or at least get a point)

The game on Saturday was a shocker and we were terrible but I still think there’s been a huge over reaction to it.

I think we’ve been better this season than last season (league games only, not talking about the league cup) and we will get better still when injured players come back and new players start to settle.

I appreciate I’m in the minority with that view but I don’t care.

Agree with that. The reaction has been way ott imo with absolutely everything about the club being slaughtered. There are obviously concerns however Johnson and the players need time to settle and improve. Hope we can turnover a few players by the end of the window.

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/chesterfieldfc/status/1564254160995995648?s=21&t=SXgSOlxyjq-tGa9nt94TMA

Tshimanga on as a sub for chesterfield today.

Imagine the poster that mentioned him was out of hope rather than substance

Scored another goal today, doesn’t seem like there’s any issues following his injury last season.

[PaulSmith]

Agree with that. The reaction has been way ott imo with absolutely everything about the club being slaughtered. There are obviously concerns however Johnson and the players need time to settle and improve. Hope we can turnover a few players by the end of the window.

We were promised a change for this season in style and personal. We’re 9 games on and it’s by in large the same first X1 and I’ve yet to be really excited watching us. In fact the games v Falkirk, Morton, Livi and St Mirren have been pretty poor/mediocre.

This time to settle stuff doesn’t wash with me. Good players come in and make a difference to teams immediately. It’s an easy excuse to come out with when we’re looking for some hope to cling onto.

Ben Kensell, Ian Gordon and Lee Johnson have 72 hours to save our season. That’s the bottom line as far as I’m concerned as with the current starting X1 it’s been proven that they are incapable of getting results time and time again.

[truehibernian]

We are toiling already TH.

No fluency, energy or ability to take the team to the opponent’s. Easy to get up for Derby or games v Rangers but they need to step up every game!


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I know buddy, it’s painful and I get more angry after each game, each week, each month supporting Hibs these days.

Ron has ripped the feel good factor out the club, with some horrendous decisions, appointments and staff dismissals. If it can’t make money, he’s not interested, it’s that simple.

We’re like a brand new Porsche with no engine or wheels.

He’s failing to read the room, he’s created division in the support, and in turn, failing on a number of fronts.

Ditch his son and Kensall would be my first actions, appoint a footballing minded Director of Football, get the cheque book out and use your wealth, and get four quality players, two centre halves, creative midfielder and striker.

This is a season that if done anywhere near right, guarantees group stage European football. Sod screens, new pies, and 16 year olds coaches sons
from Bristol, invest properly in the first team and by properly I mean much more professional due diligence on recruitment.

I feel like signing off each post ‘Angry, from Southside’ Aldo 😂😩

[HendoDelivered]

I honestly have a bad feeling we won’t sign anyone else

[GordonHFC]

I honestly have a bad feeling we won’t sign anyone else

Me too and there are going to be an awful lot of angry people come Friday.

[Callum_62]

Me too and there are going to be an awful lot of angry people come Friday.That's a very easy bet though

There will be angry people regardless

Anngry if we don't sign or angry at what we've signed

Let's hope it's the latter [emoji23]

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[Aldo]

I know buddy, it’s painful and I get more angry after each game, each week, each month supporting Hibs these days.

Ron has ripped the feel good factor out the club, with some horrendous decisions, appointments and staff dismissals. If it can’t make money, he’s not interested, it’s that simple.

We’re like a brand new Porsche with no engine or wheels.

He’s failing to read the room, he’s created division in the support, and in turn, failing on a number of fronts.

Ditch his son and Kensall would be my first actions, appoint a footballing minded Director of Football, get the cheque book out and use your wealth, and get four quality players, two centre halves, creative midfielder and striker.

This is a season that if done anywhere near right, guarantees group stage European football. Sod screens, new pies, and 16 year olds coaches sons
from Bristol, invest properly in the first team and by properly I mean much more professional due diligence on recruitment.

I feel like signing off each post ‘Angry, from Southside’ Aldo [emoji23][emoji30]

For everything good he’s done off the field there has been failure on it!

Dont think he’s doing it deliberately but you’d think a man of his business experience and supposed savvy would surround himself with experienced people with a footballing background!

He’s now beginning to look daft and if he says we’ve done great in the transfer window etc then he needs to be called out.

Yes Boyle bring back is brilliant but we also need others. For me before we went out and spent X amount on young talent for the Dev Squad, the first team should have been sorted! That’s what drives the success of the club!

It’s already been a long season but it’ll get worse if we don’t get ready to start CH, AM and striker before the end of the window.

If truth be told I don’t hold out any hope of this happening!


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[CockneyRebel]

I drew comparisons with the 2014 squad yesterday, and sorry to again do so, but under Butcher (and Pat) some players were using phones and texting whilst on the bench back then. Not even having kit and boots on is ridiculous- so is it not being noticed by the two coaches, physio, and other pros though. Just underlines the lack of attention.

This is a relegation squad in the making, make no mistake. If Boyle gets injured or gets a poor run of form, we’re toiling.





The team is so duff that Boyles not making much difference just now.

[Springbank]

The 2015-18 period showed what the business model needs to be

Go win on the park & you'll sell record amounts of season tickets, merch, food

Focus on the development team & regress in each of those 3 areas

[one day maybe...]

https://twitter.com/chesterfieldfc/status/1564254160995995648?s=21&t=SXgSOlxyjq-tGa9nt94TMA

Tshimanga on as a sub for chesterfield today.

Imagine the poster that mentioned him was out of hope rather than substance

No chance we are getting him. Big clubs were queuing up for him before his bad injury which basically curtailed Chesterfields promotion push. He was on fire for them and they collapsed when he went out injured for the rest of the season around February I think, don't quote me on that though.

[HendoDelivered]

The 2015-18 period showed what the business model needs to be

Go win on the park & you'll sell record amounts of season tickets, merch, food

Focus on the development team & regress in each of those 3 areas

The good days 😫

[Mikey_1875]

Agree with that. The reaction has been way ott imo with absolutely everything about the club being slaughtered. There are obviously concerns however Johnson and the players need time to settle and improve. Hope we can turnover a few players by the end of the window.

I don’t think the reaction has been OTT. Through all of the games so far the fans have been working on the assumption that we are going to be adding a centre half and centre mid to this team. Pretty much out of the blue after a terrible result Johnson is saying there isn’t much movement for us in the market. It’s doubled down on the anger from the match.

The argument that fans thought we were two or three players away from clicking vs rangers but now think we are suddenly awful as an example of overreacting doesn’t make sense to me because when it is the spine of our team that is exactly the difference between clicking and being awful.

My view on the “two players away from clicking” was that these players were needed to keep us in the hunt for european spots while still having our ups and downs throughout the first half of the season. This is while the players who aren’t ready adapt to the league and our injured players come back. Top that up with a couple in January and we could then really kick on.

While there has been some good signings made we are still looking at a team largely made up of the failures from last season and younger players who don’t look there yet and we don’t know if they ever will be.

It’s no wonder folk are having a pop when we are staring down the barrel of another six months debating the merits of Joe Newell for the umpteenth time.

[bigwheel]

I don’t think the reaction has been OTT. Through all of the games so far the fans have been working on the assumption that we are going to be adding a centre half and centre mid to this team. Pretty much out of the blue after a terrible result Johnson is saying there isn’t much movement for us in the market. It’s doubled down on the anger from the match.

The argument that fans thought we were two or three players away from clicking vs rangers but now think we are suddenly awful as an example of overreacting doesn’t make sense to me because when it is the spine of our team that is exactly the difference between clicking and being awful.

My view on the “two players away from clicking” was that these players were needed to keep us in the hunt for european spots while still having our ups and downs throughout the first half of the season. This is while the players who aren’t ready adapt to the league and our injured players come back. Top that up with a couple in January and we could then really kick on.

While there has been some good signings made we are still looking at a team largely made up of the failures from last season and younger players who don’t look there yet and we don’t know if they ever will be.

It’s no wonder folk are having a pop when we are staring down the barrel of another six months debating the merits of Joe Newell for the umpteenth time.

Good summary this . We will only know if the reaction has been OTT in hindsight. I think what’s occurred is that people are now seeing the levels of this team after nine competitive games . They are realising that it looks way too much like last seasons levels , and as a result people are worried about the likely season ahead ..so it’s getting a negative reaction …

[CapitalGreen]

The 2015-18 period showed what the business model needs to be

Go win on the park & you'll sell record amounts of season tickets, merch, food

Focus on the development team & regress in each of those 3 areas

You missed off the rest of the 2015-18 business plan. Lose your best players after one good league season and have no continuity plan in place to replace them.

[007]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822

[Paulie Walnuts]

You missed off the rest of the 2015-18 business plan. Lose your best players after one good league season and have no continuity plan in place to replace them.

It’s not any different now though, is it?

We lost Boyle in January and replaced him with Jasper who was absolutely gash.

We lost Doig this summer and we’ve replaced him with Cabraja who the jury is still very much out on.

We lost Magennis to injury nearly a year ago and we’ve not even bothered attempting to replace him.

We lost Nisbet through injury and we’ve not replaced him either.

We lost McGregor to retirement and we’ve done such a bad job of replacing him that he’s actually still on the bench despite being ‘retired’ to all intents and purposes.

[mcfly]

I know buddy, it’s painful and I get more angry after each game, each week, each month supporting Hibs these days.

Ron has ripped the feel good factor out the club, with some horrendous decisions, appointments and staff dismissals. If it can’t make money, he’s not interested, it’s that simple.

We’re like a brand new Porsche with no engine or wheels.

He’s failing to read the room, he’s created division in the support, and in turn, failing on a number of fronts.

Ditch his son and Kensall would be my first actions, appoint a footballing minded Director of Football, get the cheque book out and use your wealth, and get four quality players, two centre halves, creative midfielder and striker.

This is a season that if done anywhere near right, guarantees group stage European football. Sod screens, new pies, and 16 year olds coaches sons
from Bristol, invest properly in the first team and by properly I mean much more professional due diligence on recruitment.

I feel like signing off each post ‘Angry, from Southside’ Aldo 😂😩

Your not alone feeling this way - it’s great we are making money commercially

However as a fan I’m only concerned with the results on the pitch. Do you trust the recruiting team to invest the extra money wisely in players? I don’t.

I’m Fed up seeing the same players picked every week regardless of their prev performances, thats why they are lax in their attitude / they know they are undropable.

[Hibee Daft]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822

Cant see Rogic comimg here altho would he amazing signing. Snodgrass / Mcgeouch would be pretty good aswell, just worry about injuries issues tho

[Jones28]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822

I’d honestly take all of them in our current state.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822

Rogic is the only one on that list I’d bother with.

Think Snodgrass would be an expensive disaster and the others either aren’t good enougy, have fitness issues or in Zander Clarks case we don’t need.

[Tambo]

Rogic could definitely be a man to break down teams at this level but not sure what kind of wages he would be asking for

Martin Boyle could have a wee word in his ear! Get him playing for the Hibees!

Hoping for some links and names tomorrow.

[BILLYHIBS]

Need someone to separate the wheat from the chaff

Corny

[Unseen work]

No chance we are getting him. Big clubs were queuing up for him before his bad injury which basically curtailed Chesterfields promotion push. He was on fire for them and they collapsed when he went out injured for the rest of the season around February I think, don't quote me on that though.

Really? Only team I’ve seen him linked with is Hearts 🤣

[Lago]

Me too and there are going to be an awful lot of angry people come Friday.
There are a lot of people who are just desperate to be angry.

[Trinity Hibee]

There are a lot of people who are just desperate to be angry.

Really don’t think folk are. The repeated let downs means most of us have ran out of patience. Folk just want to see us winning games.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There are a lot of people who are just desperate to be angry.

Ah well. Hibs are giving us every excuse to be with our woeful on pitch performance and our woeful squad.

Still though, at least you’re above that nonsense.

[JimBHibees]

I don’t think the reaction has been OTT. Through all of the games so far the fans have been working on the assumption that we are going to be adding a centre half and centre mid to this team. Pretty much out of the blue after a terrible result Johnson is saying there isn’t much movement for us in the market. It’s doubled down on the anger from the match.

The argument that fans thought we were two or three players away from clicking vs rangers but now think we are suddenly awful as an example of overreacting doesn’t make sense to me because when it is the spine of our team that is exactly the difference between clicking and being awful.

My view on the “two players away from clicking” was that these players were needed to keep us in the hunt for european spots while still having our ups and downs throughout the first half of the season. This is while the players who aren’t ready adapt to the league and our injured players come back. Top that up with a couple in January and we could then really kick on.

While there has been some good signings made we are still looking at a team largely made up of the failures from last season and younger players who don’t look there yet and we don’t know if they ever will be.

It’s no wonder folk are having a pop when we are staring down the barrel of another six months debating the merits of Joe Newell for the umpteenth time.

Let's see where we are on Thursday. The start of the season was always going to be up and down. We definitely need more in and let's see where we are. Some of the new players definitely need time rather than being written off after such a ridiculously short time.

[Alfred E Newman]

Need someone to separate the wheat from the chaff

Bring Kenny Miller out of retirement.

[IberianHibernian]

Let's see where we are on Thursday. The start of the season was always going to be up and down. We definitely need more in and let's see where we are. Some of the new players definitely need time rather than being written off after such a ridiculously short time.Yes . Writing off new signings so soon is ridiculous given age and work permit problems some faced .

[Hibees1973]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822

Wouldn't take any of them.

We have been down this road before signing players late in the transfer window who have not played recent games. The thought of Johnson saying 'we need time to get him up to speed' makes me sick and would be yet another foolish move by the clowns in our recruitment dept.

[Libby Hibby]

Yes . Writing off new signings so soon is ridiculous given age and work permit problems some faced .

I am not writing them off, I’m just curious as to why they are not playing.

[Lago]

Ah well. Hibs are giving us every excuse to be with our woeful on pitch performance and our woeful squad.

Still though, at least you’re above that nonsense.
I honestly am, I've been supporting them since 1971, and in that time there have been many ups and downs, this a bit of a dip I agree but I think it will come good, your sarcasm does you no favours if I may say so.

[easty]

Wouldn't take any of them.

We have been down this road before signing players late in the transfer window who have not played recent games. The thought of Johnson saying 'we need time to get him up to speed' makes me sick and would be yet another foolish move by the clowns in our recruitment dept.

You wouldn’t take Rogic? He’s basically exactly what we need. Proven in this league. Played just about every week for Celtc last season. Still under 30.

I’d love us to get Rogic

[Hibees1973]

So here we are with 3 days of the transfer window left needing a central midfielder with creativity to be the fulcrum of the team. Also desperately needing a central defender with experience, maturity and strength to slot straight into the first team.

But our recruitment team have prioritised signing the assistant managers son, a sixteen year old brought in for £250k and various waifs and strays brought in from the likes of FC Rainbow and some other hangers-on with a handful of first team games between them.

Couldn't make it up.

[Callum_62]

So here we are with 3 days of the transfer window left needing a central midfielder with creativity to be the fulcrum of the team. Also desperately needing a central defender with experience, maturity and strength to slot straight into the first team.

But our recruitment team have prioritised signing the assistant managers son, a sixteen year old brought in for £250k and various waifs and strays brought in from the likes of FC Rainbow and some other hangers-on with a handful of first team games between them.

Couldn't make it up.Is the 250k a Hibs. Net fact?

Mcparland thinks differently

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/reuben-mcallister-hibs-finalising-deal-for-bristol-city-prospect-after-agreeing-transfer-fee-3765054

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[IberianHibernian]

I am not writing them off, I’m just curious as to why they are not playing.Usual reasons - injury , tactics , age , .. How many were you expecting to walk straight into the first team ? Marshall , Boyle , Youan , Henderson and Cabraja seem to be regulars . McGeady injured , likewise Rocky . Tavares - time to adapt ? Would we have signed him if we thought Boyle was returning ? Far too soon to write off or claim they`re great signings

[B.H.F.C]

I honestly am, I've been supporting them since 1971, and in that time there have been many ups and downs, this a bit of a dip I agree but I think it will come good, your sarcasm does you no favours if I may say so.

Genuine question. What is it you see in the current team that makes you think things will come good?

As it stands I think there’s much more chance of us being dragged in to a relegation battle than coming good. We’ve won 4 league games in 2022.

[JimBHibees]

Is the 250k a Hibs. Net fact?

Mcparland thinks differently

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/reuben-mcallister-hibs-finalising-deal-for-bristol-city-prospect-after-agreeing-transfer-fee-3765054

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Yep think it is. He is also on 30k a week and has a full time butler :greengrin

[Callum_62]

Yep think it is. He is also on 30k a week and has a full time butler :greengrinSurley his da is cooking his tea?

Ffs!

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[JimBHibees]

Genuine question. What is it you see in the current team that makes you think things will come good?

As it stands I think there’s much more chance of us being dragged in to a relegation battle than coming good. We’ve won 4 league games in 2022.

Promising full backs signed. Kenneh looks decent on initial viewing. Marshall and Boyle are stellar signings. Youhan looks quality.

[Shrekko]

The good days 😫

Mainly spent in the Championship?

[B.H.F.C]

Promising full backs signed. Kenneh looks decent on initial viewing. Marshall and Boyle are stellar signings. Youhan looks quality.

Marshall one of the best keepers in the league and Boyle the best winger outside Glasgow. They can’t carry a whole team as we’re finding out though. Jury out on the remainder although I think Cabraja will be a good player.

Fundamental problems still remain.

[JimBHibees]

Marshall one of the best keepers in the league and Boyle the best winger outside Glasgow. They can’t carry a whole team as we’re finding out though. Jury out on the remainder although I think Cabraja will be a good player.

Fundamental problems still remain.

They undoubtedly do remain

[Lago]

Promising full backs signed. Kenneh looks decent on initial viewing. Marshall and Boyle are stellar signings. Youhan looks quality.
And the mind set has changed, the team goes to the 95th minute doesn't give up which wasn't the case last season.

[Stuart93]

And the mind set has changed, the team goes to the 95th minute doesn't give up which wasn't the case last season.

But we have away a goal in the last 5mins against livi then got beat in paisley for the first time in 8 years in the top flight, has the mind set changed that much?

[Lago]

But we have away a goal in the last 5mins against livi then got beat in paisley for the first time in 8 years in the top flight, has the mind set changed that much?
Your correct, Saturday was awful but yes I do believe it has changed.

[Basildon Hibs]

I could just about live with all this 5hite if we'd seen the club at least attempt to address the glaring weaknesses in the spine. If we'd signed a CB, CM playmaker and a CF some or all of whom had then gone on to pick up injuries you would think 'we are the unluckiest *******s in this league' and suck it up. Instead we've absolutely gone all 'fur coat and nae knickers' with the deeply unsurprising consequence that the first team squad is weak, our play is turgid and we're pleading poverty for further transfers.

**** off, we all knew what needed done and unless you make those signings in the next 72 hours or so then youve completely ****ed it.

👍

[horseflesh]

But we have away a goal in the last 5mins against livi then got beat in paisley for the first time in 8 years in the top flight, has the mind set changed that much?

I think it has, the 2nd half against Livvy was a big improvement on our last handful of visits there and St Mirren are having a purple patch.
Fixtures have been tough for us at the start of the season. If only we could have played Ross County, United and St J at home.

[flash]

But we have away a goal in the last 5mins against livi then got beat in paisley for the first time in 8 years in the top flight, has the mind set changed that much?

I commend you Stuart for your relentless shutting down of any attempts at positivity.
You aren't by any means the only one but probably the most prolific at about 50 posts an hour.

[tonyrougier123]

And the mind set has changed, the team goes to the 95th minute doesn't give up which wasn't the case last season.

There is hope in those moments at the end for sure,but the absolute abject performances in between those moments in the majority has been really lacking.
Hopefully we do dip the market before the window closes,it’s a long way to january playing like that.

[HibeeSS0762]

I currently fear for the situation we’re in at the moment and the direction we’re heading in. If going by LJ interviews are true and we will be going into the season with the squad we have as no budget then questions must be asked of Ron Gordon and the recruitment department. We got boyle back in which we made money from, we made £3m+ on Josh Doig. How isn’t there a budget left? It absolutely baffles me. We’ve brought Bojang in who can’t get a game over Doidge, that’s telling signs about who’s actually recruiting these players. Hopefully im wrong but I see us heading for a dead end road. We badly need investment and I don’t see RG doing it.

[Iain G]

I currently fear for the situation we’re in at the moment and the direction we’re heading in. If going by LJ interviews are true and we will be going into the season with the squad we have as no budget then questions must be asked of Ron Gordon and the recruitment department. We got boyle back in which we made money from, we made £3m+ on Josh Doig. How isn’t there a budget left? It absolutely baffles me. We’ve brought Bojang in who can’t get a game over Doidge, that’s telling signs about who’s actually recruiting these players. Hopefully im wrong but I see us heading for a dead end road. We badly need investment and I don’t see RG doing it.

Marshall, McGeady, Boyle, Cabraja won't be on low wages which will take up a good chunk of budget

[Callum_62]

I currently fear for the situation we’re in at the moment and the direction we’re heading in. If going by LJ interviews are true and we will be going into the season with the squad we have as no budget then questions must be asked of Ron Gordon and the recruitment department. We got boyle back in which we made money from, we made £3m+ on Josh Doig. How isn’t there a budget left? It absolutely baffles me. We’ve brought Bojang in who can’t get a game over Doidge, that’s telling signs about who’s actually recruiting these players. Hopefully im wrong but I see us heading for a dead end road. We badly need investment and I don’t see RG doing it.I don't think the investment can be argued against surley?

What we are getting for the money but we must be spending far in excess of what we've ever spent

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[HibeeSS0762]

Marshall, McGeady, Boyle, Cabraja won't be on low wages which will take up a good chunk of budget

McGeady a waste of money IMHO. The others are good signings but we need more investment whether the budgets done or not. Instead of all these young lads signing we need first team players now!

[HibeeSS0762]

I don't think the investment can be argued against surley?

What we are getting for the money but we must be spending far in excess of what we've ever spent

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I was probably a bit harsh on investment side of things. However, our recruitment is shocking 8 of jack Ross signings started on Saturday. Leaving room for 3 new players? We are unfortunate with injuries but we need better contingency plans in place.

[IberianHibernian]

I currently fear for the situation we’re in at the moment and the direction we’re heading in. If going by LJ interviews are true and we will be going into the season with the squad we have as no budget then questions must be asked of Ron Gordon and the recruitment department. We got boyle back in which we made money from, we made £3m+ on Josh Doig. How isn’t there a budget left? It absolutely baffles me. We’ve brought Bojang in who can’t get a game over Doidge, that’s telling signs about who’s actually recruiting these players. Hopefully im wrong but I see us heading for a dead end road. We badly need investment and I don’t see RG doing it. What " signs " does it tell you ? Are you writing Bojang off already ? Do you think he was an expensive signing ? Do you think we haven`t signed other young strikers almost every year , most of whom never make the first team ? Do you think Boyle signing was free and club didn`t have plans for other signings with his transfer fee ? Do you know there isn`t a budget left and if there is do you expect us to spend it on players signed hurriedly on last day who`ll probably add nothing to the squad ?

[Stuart93]

I commend you Stuart for your relentless shutting down of any attempts at positivity.
You aren't by any means the only one but probably the most prolific at about 50 posts an hour.

Would you like to point out my “50 posts an hour” or are you grossly exaggerating? I reckon I’ve posted maybe 5 times tonight considering I’ve been busy.

I’m just seeing it from another point of view. For me a team with character doesn’t go to st mirren and barely lays a glove on them.

There’s plenty positive posts on the site I haven’t replied to. You’re talking nonsense.

[HibeeSS0762]

What " signs " does it tell you ? Are you writing Bojang off already ? Do you think he was an expensive signing ? Do you think we haven`t signed other young strikers almost every year , most of whom never make the first team ? Do you think Boyle signing was free and club didn`t have plans for other signings with his transfer fee ? Do you know there isn`t a budget left and if there is do you expect us to spend it on players signed hurriedly on last day who`ll probably add nothing to the squad ?

Well clearly the gaffer doesn’t fancy him as doidge starts ahead of him. We made money on the boyle deal mate. If you read what I said I clearly stated that if what the interviews are suggesting and there’s none left and we’re going into season as we are.

[Lago]

Would you like to point out my “50 posts an hour” or are you grossly exaggerating? I reckon I’ve posted maybe 5 times tonight considering I’ve been busy.

I’m just seeing it from another point of view. For me a team with character doesn’t go to st mirren and barely lays a glove on them.

There’s plenty positive posts on the site I haven’t replied to. You’re talking nonsense.
You are pretty relentless in your campaign of negativity of all things Hibs, even you must acknowledge that.

[Iain G]

Well clearly the gaffer doesn’t fancy him as doidge starts ahead of him. We made money on the boyle deal mate. If you read what I said I clearly stated that if what the interviews are suggesting and there’s none left and we’re going into season as we are.

We were budgeting for £3m from Boyle which we didn't get all of, so it depends on what our plans were. I do suspect Boyle coming back was at the expense of other players, and looks like we may have to middle through with what we have til the world cup in November, then we get McGeady and Nisbet back?

We do need cover for Rocky now though...

[Stuart93]

You are pretty relentless in your campaign of negativity of all things Hibs, even you must acknowledge that.

Because I’m struggling to find the positives surrounding hibs just now. I’ve been pretty positive with regards to hibs off the pitch and the work that’s been done in hospitality and generating more revenue.

But on the playing side of things, the most important side for me, we’re in a mess. Pumped out the league cup in a terrible group and have had a below par start to the season. We still require, imo, a full spine to sign before the window shuts, which we all knew from the moment it opened yet it’s still not been done. Sure I seen that 8/9 players who ended the game on Saturday were part of Jack Ross’ hibs team before he got sacked. It’s not good enough.

Yep I’m pretty relentlessly negative just now because hibs are giving me plenty ammunition. My opinion might be negative but at least I try to back it up with why. Posters suggesting I’m all over the place shutting down every positive post is simply nonsense. “50 posts an hour” haha.

[IberianHibernian]

Well clearly the gaffer doesn’t fancy him as doidge starts ahead of him. We made money on the boyle deal mate. If you read what I said I clearly stated that if what the interviews are suggesting and there’s none left and we’re going into season as we are.We may have made money on Boyle deal but I`m pretty sure we started to spend the money as soon as he left in January if not before and will have had to stop other possible summer signings when he returned . He`ll rightly be on a high salary which logically means that other players couldn`t be signed .

[HibeeSS0762]

We may have made money on Boyle deal but I`m pretty sure we started to spend the money as soon as he left in January if not before and will have had to stop other possible summer signings when he returned . He`ll rightly be on a high salary which logically means that other players couldn`t be signed .

Okay so where’s Doig money gone?

[HibeeSS0762]

Because I’m struggling to find the positives surrounding hibs just now. I’ve been pretty positive with regards to hibs off the pitch and the work that’s been done in hospitality and generating more revenue.

But on the playing side of things, the most important side for me, we’re in a mess. Pumped out the league cup in a terrible group and have had a below par start to the season. We still require, imo, a full spine to sign before the window shuts, which we all knew from the moment it opened yet it’s still not been done. Sure I seen that 8/9 players who ended the game on Saturday were part of Jack Ross’ hibs team before he got sacked. It’s not good enough.

Yep I’m pretty relentlessly negative just now because hibs are giving me plenty ammunition. My opinion might be negative but at least I try to back it up with why. Posters suggesting I’m all over the place shutting down every positive post is simply nonsense. “50 posts an hour” haha.

I genuinely couldn’t have put it better myself. All the do good happy clappers upset because your truthful about the club. We’re in a sticky position right now and I don’t see us getting out any time soon.

[Stuart93]

I genuinely couldn’t have put it better myself. All the do good happy clappers upset because your truthful about the club. We’re in a sticky position right now and I don’t see us getting out any time soon.

Every ones got their own opinion and that’s fine but I don’t think people should be singled out or pulled up for having an opinion.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I genuinely couldn’t have put it better myself. All the do good happy clappers upset because your truthful about the club. We’re in a sticky position right now and I don’t see us getting out any time soon.

And it’s the same posters who offer next to nothing to the forum other than moaning about other posters.

They’d have nothing to post about if others weren’t moaning.

[HibeeSS0762]

And it’s the same posters who offer next to nothing to the forum other than moaning about other posters.

They’d have nothing to post about if others weren’t moaning.

Spot on mate. Anyway, hopefully we get a couple players in. I personally feel we’re 2/3 short but not sure any movement will happen unless we get rid of dead weight but we’ve honoured these guys with lengthy contracts so what chance we got😁

[Iain G]

Okay so where’s Doig money gone?

Ron trousered it as part of the Ponzi scheme he is fronting for Sir Tom and Rod Petrie 😁

[Lago]

And it’s the same posters who offer next to nothing to the forum other than moaning about other posters.

They’d have nothing to post about if others weren’t moaning.
But you don't do anything but repeat the same stuff ad infinitum you offer nothing new just gloom.

[Lago]

Ron trousered it as part of the Ponzi scheme he is fronting for Sir Tom and Rod Petrie 😁
Your not supposed to tell anyone 😜

[Iain G]

But you don't do anything but repeat the same stuff ad infinitum you offer nothing new just gloom.

At least it's gloom with a view 😁

[HendoDelivered]

Mainly spent in the Championship?

Yep. The teams we had in the championship would probably wipe the floor with this current side as well.

[Unseen work]

Wonder if we’ll use Johnson’s contacts at Man City to bring in any players, especially on loan.

[ehf]

#announce Salomon Obama!

[Unseen work]

#announce Salomon Obama!

Who?

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-set-to-hold-onto-defender-despite-lee-johnson-loan-hint-but-midfielder-could-still-leave-3823190

McLellend likely to stay unless new centre half comes in but Tait could still leave

[phoenixfire]

Who?

22 year old . Right winger , can play across the front , don't think anything in it as he's just joined a ciub that's if I have right one !

[basehibby]

Let's see where we are on Thursday. The start of the season was always going to be up and down. We definitely need more in and let's see where we are. Some of the new players definitely need time rather than being written off after such a ridiculously short time.

This is true - I totally get the frustration being expressed though. We have signed a bunch of players but about half of them are raw and unproven at this level. We live in hope that they will work out and end up gracing the team before too long, but we all know that we need players who are ready NOW to play for Hibs in the SPL and make us a better team on the park - and thus to win games and pick up points NOW rather than so many weeks or months down the line. There is still a window of opportunity to make this happen - let's wait and see.

[phoenixfire]

#announce Salomon Obama!

He's supposed to have just joined a club . Looks quick and Abit like a GORDAN target. You hear something ?

[phoenixfire]

This is true - I totally get the frustration being expressed though. We have signed a bunch of players but about half of them are raw and unproven at this level. We live in hope that they will work out and end up gracing the team before too long, but we all know that we need players who are ready NOW to play for Hibs in the SPL and make us a better team on the park - and thus to win games and pick up points NOW rather than so many weeks or months down the line. There is still a window of opportunity to make this happen - let's wait and see.

All we can do is wait I suppose .thing that really gets me is talk we aren't taking in anyone ,yet we spent 250,000 on a young kid that's not going to be ready for probably 2years at least and yet our midfields a disaster now I was delighted when LJ was appointed,think he's a good manager but this is bizarre beyond belief .Now maybe it's just me that finds this strange from a club that's got first team issues yet always seem to be looking for the next superstar to make millions on!

[OldEast]

And it’s the same posters who offer next to nothing to the forum other than moaning about other posters.

They’d have nothing to post about if others weren’t moaning.

This place in a nutshell

[AlbertK86]

All we can do is wait I suppose .thing that really gets me is talk we aren't taking in anyone ,yet we spent 250,000 on a young kid that's not going to be ready for probably 2years at least and yet our midfields a disaster now I was delighted when LJ was appointed,think he's a good manager but this is bizarre beyond belief .Now maybe it's just me that finds this strange from a club that's got first team issues yet always seem to be looking for the next superstar to make millions on!

Actually £120k but maybe doesn’t fit the outrage and negativity agenda [emoji2375]


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[Paulie Walnuts]

Actually £120k but maybe doesn’t fit the outrage and negativity agenda [emoji2375]


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The fee for him is £250k.

[JimBHibees]

The fee for him is £250k.

Confirmed anywhere?

[GloryGlory]

The fee for him is £250k.

Maybe - but that might be with add ons if/when he plays for 1st team, age group caps, etc

[Paulie Walnuts]

Maybe - but that might be with add ons if/when he plays for 1st team, age group caps, etc

That’s the initial fee by all accounts. There is add ins, but they’d make it more than the £250k.

[Smartie]

Should the £250k not be considered part of the fee to get Jamie McAllister up from Bristol, with his talented son chucked in for free?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Should the £250k not be considered part of the fee to get Jamie McAllister up from Bristol, with his talented son chucked in for free?

He claims it was absolutely nothing to do with him :dunno:

[HibbyKeith]

Confirmed anywhere?https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/revealed-the-full-reuben-mcallister-to-hibernian-fee-as-bristol-city-academy-raises-more-money-3763035

Not sure how reliable, but this article is a few days after the inital 100k fee was spouted sayin its more like 250k potentially 500k if all clauses were fulfilled.

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[Callum_62]

That’s the initial fee by all accounts. There is add ins, but they’d make it more than the £250k.By all accounts except Mcparlands in the EEN and others

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footballscotland.co.uk/transfer-news/reuben-mcallister-joins-hibs-despite-24480886.amp

It's believed that Hibs agreed an initial fee in excess of £100,000 with Bristol City to bring him to Easter Road.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/reuben-mcallister-hibs-finalising-deal-for-bristol-city-prospect-after-agreeing-transfer-fee-3765054

However, the Capital club has agreed a more modest £120,000 fee for the in-demand midfielder, with earlier figures mentioned appearing to be significantly wide of the mark.





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[Paulie Walnuts]

By all accounts except Mcparlands in the EEN and others

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footballscotland.co.uk/transfer-news/reuben-mcallister-joins-hibs-despite-24480886.amp

It's believed that Hibs agreed an initial fee in excess of £100,000 with Bristol City to bring him to Easter Road.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/reuben-mcallister-hibs-finalising-deal-for-bristol-city-prospect-after-agreeing-transfer-fee-3765054

However, the Capital club has agreed a more modest £120,000 fee for the in-demand midfielder, with earlier figures mentioned appearing to be significantly wide of the mark.





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£250k is in excess of £100k?

McPartland is the only person quoting the fee he’s mentioned. Everywhere else reckons it’s £250k with add ons on top.

[brog]

https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/revealed-the-full-reuben-mcallister-to-hibernian-fee-as-bristol-city-academy-raises-more-money-3763035

Not sure how reliable, but this article is a few days after the inital 100k fee was spouted sayin its more like 250k potentially 500k if all clauses were fulfilled.

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It doesn't say it's more like 250k, it says it's closer to 250k. That could be anywhere from 181k to 240k, remember this is a Bristol paper doing like the EEN and appeasing the natives. Interesting though that The Bristol C fans were up in arms about his departure. Meanwhile some Hibs Net posters are up in arms about his arrival and have written off a 16 year old boy!

[hibbyfraelibby]

I was probably a bit harsh on investment side of things. However, our recruitment is shocking 8 of jack Ross signings started on Saturday. Leaving room for 3 new players? We are unfortunate with injuries but we need better contingency plans in place.

Jack Ross never signed Porto, Hanlon, Boyle, Campbell, Doidge, Newell, Marshall, Cabraja, Youan...so how do Cadden and JDH equal 8?

[GreenCastle]

It doesn't say it's more like 250k, it says it's closer to 250k. That could be anywhere from 181k to 240k, remember this is a Bristol paper doing like the EEN and appeasing the natives. Interesting though that The Bristol C fans were up in arms about his departure. Meanwhile some Hibs Net posters are up in arms about his arrival and have written off a 16 year old boy!

I think Bristol fans wanted to see a player they were developing stay

He’s signed a 3 year deal - his dads contract is till May 2026. His contract is May 2025.

Do we think we will ever see him play for 1st team?

There will be a point in future where he is picked up by another team or signs a new contract with Hibs or if he’s not up to standard will leave for free. Obviously Hibs will want to make money back as a minimum.

[HibbyKeith]

It doesn't say it's more like 250k, it says it's closer to 250k. That could be anywhere from 181k to 240k, remember this is a Bristol paper doing like the EEN and appeasing the natives. Interesting though that The Bristol C fans were up in arms about his departure. Meanwhile some Hibs Net posters are up in arms about his arrival and have written off a 16 year old boy!It wa a brief description of the article, I wasnt quoting it directly. It's there for everyone to read. I also did say that I dont know it's reliability.

FWIW I dont think .net posters are complaining about the signing of the lad himself, more that there are gaping holes in the first team in need of that transfer cash before we spend it on a player who is potentially years away from making a impact at first team level.

I'm all for signing potential, but we need to get the team the actually generates the income sorted first.

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[Springbank]

Jack Ross never signed Porto, Hanlon, Boyle, Campbell, Doidge, Newell, Marshall, Cabraja, Youan...so how do Cadden and JDH equal 8?

Oh I think Jack Ross was instrumental in Doidge signing a new long term deal (which represents the problem for us now)

Ditto Newell, JDH (who somehow managed to sign two contracts under Ross within 5 months), Campbell etc

The ones we would (almost) all like to move on, are here for the long haul, because of contracts handed out in the Jack Ross era

Yet Delfierre and Tait are the ones sent out on loan, while my season book money has been spent so that I can watch JDH leave his man free (at all times), and Newell to take 5 unnecessary touches, Doidge to be outpaced & outmuscled by bottom 6 defences.

They were the first three who should have been told to find new clubs this summer.

[phoenixfire]

Actually £120k but maybe doesn’t fit the outrage and negativity agenda [emoji2375]


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I'm not outraged or trying to be negative about it just found it baffling that we are so in need of 3 first team players CB,AM,CF yet we have invested in young players that aren't ready or likely will be anytime soon and now club saying maybe no more to come in!

[phoenixfire]

It doesn't say it's more like 250k, it says it's closer to 250k. That could be anywhere from 181k to 240k, remember this is a Bristol paper doing like the EEN and appeasing the natives. Interesting though that The Bristol C fans were up in arms about his departure. Meanwhile some Hibs Net posters are up in arms about his arrival and have written off a 16 year old boy!

Sure the young lads a very good player , definitely not up in arms about him and hopefully he will be a very good player for us in the years ahead though meantime I would be worried if there is no new arrivals specially to a midfield that's got major problems

[Paulie Walnuts]

It doesn't say it's more like 250k, it says it's closer to 250k. That could be anywhere from 181k to 240k, remember this is a Bristol paper doing like the EEN and appeasing the natives. Interesting though that The Bristol C fans were up in arms about his departure. Meanwhile some Hibs Net posters are up in arms about his arrival and have written off a 16 year old boy!

Where has anybody written him off?

[Callum_62]

£250k is in excess of £100k?

McPartland is the only person quoting the fee he’s mentioned. Everywhere else reckons it’s £250k with add ons on top.Yeah but I'm sure if the cee was close to 250k they wouldn't say in excess of 100k

That would just be silly

Anyway we can argue the toss. Over 120k or 250k - when he's winning balon d'or we won't care

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[brog]

Sure the young lads a very good player , definitely not up in arms about him and hopefully he will be a very good player for us in the years ahead though meantime I would be worried if there is no new arrivals specially to a midfield that's got major problems


That's fine. We have to remember all these signings for the future took place before MB resigned. I'm glad Martin came back and let's be honest, can you imagine the outrage if he had signed for another Scottish team? However i dont think there can be any doubt that Martin's signing has changed our transfer plans and budget. It's interesting that the imminent transfer for the young Austrian striker seems to have disappeared since MB returned.
For years, many of us have been calling on Hibs to speculate to accumulate so I certainly can't complain when we do exactly that. I thought the signings of Mackay and Tait were excellent, but (so far) they haven't worked out. I guess that's why it's called speculate. To summarise I'm not sure we would be signing Reuben now but it was a sign of intent at the time so let's not rewrite history and use it as another excuse to blame our club.
(not you!)

[Gorgiehibee]

Heard we're looking/talking to Harvey St Claire, He played for killie a couple years ago now plays in Italy.

[Billy Whizz]

Heard we're looking/talking to Harvey St Claire, He played for killie a couple years ago now plays in Italy.

Surprised we’re looking at another winger, unless one is moving on

[bigwheel]

Heard we're looking/talking to Harvey St Claire, He played for killie a couple years ago now plays in Italy.

Played in the third tier of Italian football
Last season on loan ….not filling me
With optimism

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah but I'm sure if the cee was close to 250k they wouldn't say in excess of 100k

That would just be silly

Anyway we can argue the toss. Over 120k or 250k - when he's winning balon d'or we won't care

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Thing is for me, I’m not flat out against that type of signing. From the sounds of things he’s very highly rated and if he progresses as we hope we could have a real player on our hands.

I am against it though when our first team requires players right through the spine of it and we now don’t have the money to pay for any of that.

[Callum_62]

Thing is for me, I’m not flat out against that type of signing. From the sounds of things he’s very highly rated and if he progresses as we hope we could have a real player on our hands.

I am against it though when our first team requires players right through the spine of it and we now don’t have the money to pay for any of that.As I've said Martin Boyle signing wouod have had much more of an impact on our first team funds than Reuben Mcallister

Also, I wouldn't pay any attention to what the manager says regarding transfer funds

It might be right but its just as likey to be wrong

I've never heard a manager say we have a war chest to spend

We were obviously in the hunt for the boy from Wimbledon very recently (a central midfielder) so it shows we must have some funds and it's an area we are targeting

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[Unseen work]

Is there anything in Kabongo Tshimanga or Solomon Obama?

Or are they just randoms folk want in?

[coldingham hibs]

Livingston sign another 6’4 striker, does that mean Nouble is on his way out. Most likely if he leaves it will be to Hearts and he will destroy us. Just my guess.

[04Sauzee]

Livingston sign another 6’4 striker, does that mean Nouble is on his way out. Most likely if he leaves it will be to Hearts and he will destroy us. Just my guess.

Hearts will defo be in the market for another signing with Boyce out for the season .

[coldingham hibs]

Hearts will defo be in the market for another signing with Boyce out for the season .

He’s a typical Hearts type of player, the sort we never sign but always need.

[04Sauzee]

He’s a typical Hearts type of player, the sort we never sign but always need. Martindale rates him at about 1m , they never seen to need the cash so can't see him going for a small fee and would be surprised if he left this window.

[SHODAN]

He’s a typical Hearts type of player, the sort we never sign but always need.

I'm not convinced he'd do that well for us, we never really give big physical strikers much time and his goalscoring record isn't great.

That said, he'd wreck us in a derby.

[Mainstandman]

Time to bring back our best striker in the last ten league games - James Scott

[GreenGray]

Time to bring back our best striker in the last ten league games - James Scott

We’re that desperate at this point I wouldn’t even be against it.


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[Smartie]

I'm not convinced he'd do that well for us, we never really give big physical strikers much time and his goalscoring record isn't great.

That said, he'd wreck us in a derby.

I think he’s almost exactly what we’re crying out for.

We’ve seen so many managers crash and burn attempting to play 451 without an adequate central striker. Even allowing for his imperfections, I think you’d see much more from so many of our players with him in our team.

Him, Magennis and a good centre half and our team becomes unrecognisably better imo.

[weecounty hibby]

Time to bring back our best striker in the last ten league games - James Scott
I said it at the end of last season, I would have kept him. I think he was just starting to show what he could do

[HendoDelivered]

I said it at the end of last season, I would have kept him. I think he was just starting to show what he could do

Too little, too late though. He was utter dog poo!

[weecounty hibby]

Too little, too late though. He was utter dog poo!

Injuries, not up to fitness. He got there towards the end if his time here and I think he would have been at the very least a better option that Doidge at the moment. I have a lot of time for CD but it's not happening at all for him right now

[04Sauzee]

Nicky Clark moving from Dundee Utd to St Johnstone

[Unseen work]

Nicky Clark moving from Dundee Utd to St Johnstone

Good signing for them

[Billy Whizz]

Nicky Clark moving from Dundee Utd to St Johnstone

A St Johnstone type player

[Cod Boy]

Time to bring back our best striker in the last ten league games - James Scott

Injured

[SHODAN]

Injured

He's perfect!

[Smartie]

Interesting to see Jack Ross get his jotters amidst rumours of acrimony with experienced players.

I liked Ross and wanted him to get more time but I thought his treatment of James Scott was poor. He threw him under the bus with his fitness comments and drove a wedge between the player and the support at a time when he could really have done without it.

Not defending Scott’s performances for us which over the piece were not good enough until the last couple of months, but I thought his manager did him no favours with his fitness comments earlier that season, which were then interpreted as a slur on the player’s professionalism.

[Hibee Daft]

Always got the feeling James Scott wasnt giving 100% or just lacked awareness to make good runs and close down.

Very frustrating to watch.

[GreenCastle]

James Scott hasn’t played since his 3 goals for Hibs last season!!

If we had signed him he probably would have missed more than he played no doubt.

[GreenGray]

Always got the feeling James Scott wasnt giving 100% or just lacked awareness to make good runs and close down.

Very frustrating to watch.

I’m not sure if this is outrageous or not but if he could play the way he did towards end of last season I’d rather him than Doidge.


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[Springbank]

Nicky Clark moving from Dundee Utd to St Johnstone

If you're St Johnstone, you're thinking this guy should be the difference between us being 7-10th in the league, instead of 11-12th

[Halmyre Hibee]

According to Pie & Bovril forum a Rangers fan saying we are interested in Stephen Kelly. Also mention of a loan deal for James McCarthy from Celtic.

[bingo70]

According to Pie & Bovril forum a Rangers fan saying we are interested in Stephen Kelly. Also mention of a loan deal for James McCarthy from Celtic.

Stephen Kelly meant to be highly rated isn’t he? I thought he was a full back but just checked and see he’s a midfielder. Could see there being something in that.

McCarthy would be another defensive midfielder offering no goal threat, not for me.

[04Sauzee]

According to Pie & Bovril forum a Rangers fan saying we are interested in Stephen Kelly. Also mention of a loan deal for James McCarthy from Celtic.

Stephen Kelly was told he can leave rangers if he can find a club, think there would be a fee involved unless Hibs agree one of those huge sell on deals. Had some success on loan in lower leagues down South m not sure what type of midfielder he is.
McCarthy is a decent player, I'd assume Celtic will be looking for someone to take up a fair chunk of his wages which I don't think Hibs can do .

[The Modfather]

Stephen Kelly meant to be highly rated isn’t he? I thought he was a full back but just checked and see he’s a midfielder. Could see there being something in that.

McCarthy would be another defensive midfielder offering no goal threat, not for me.

Stephen Kelly is 22 but played less first team games than Dylan Tait for Ayr, Ross County & Salford. Might as well just play some of the existing inexperienced youngsters we already have than sign any new ones.

[bingo70]

Stephen Kelly is 22 but played less first team games than Dylan Tait for Ayr, Ross County & Salford. What’s the point in the development team and the likes of Tait and Delfierre if we were to end up signing a similarly inexperienced player on loan rather than play one of our own youngsters.

Because we think Kelly is better than them?

[Iain G]

Stephen Kelly is 22 but played less first team games than Dylan Tait for Ayr, Ross County & Salford. What’s the point in the development team and the likes of Tait and Delfierre if we were to end up signing a similarly inexperienced player on loan rather than play one of our own youngsters.

Maybe he is better and maybe we can buy him? :confused:

[The Modfather]

Because we think Kelly is better than them?

At what point do we actually transition our youngsters from the youth teams and development teams if we’re simply going to keep buying similarly inexperienced players instead. If we’re not going to bring in proven experienced quality then I’d rather start playing the promising youngsters we’ve already got.

[Unseen work]

Kelly is a good young player, loads of energy and gets stuck in.

Is he much better than what we have or the creative spark we’re missing? Not imo.

He’s one that would be a good signing but not convinced he’s what we need. He would suit Johnson’s style though

McCarthy is one that sounds daft turning our nose up at but for some reason I just can’t see it being a great fit

[bingo70]

At what point do we actually transition our youngsters from the youth teams and development teams if we’re simply going to keep buying similarly inexperienced players instead. If we’re not going to bring in proven experienced quality then I’d rather start playing the promising youngsters we’ve already got.

When they earn a starting place by impressing the manager.

Although we don’t get to see them very often, the manager and his coaches watch and analyse them every day. If they thought they’d improve the team, they’d play them.

[eastmainsmsh]

McCarthy would be ideal also Mcgeouch if he could stay Injury Free he was magic as deep playmaker