Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[MrSmith]

He had all those things available to him at Celtic and he wasn’t interested. The guy is a waster, plain and simple.

I'm not sure that is completely true. He definitely had opportunities but was left aimless most of the time albeit he is an adult and should be looking to change issues for himself. He really needs to man up but I think someone to put a routine in place and hold his hand through it, is what he needs. Some guidance and tough love. It's still there, just needs brought back out.

[Smartie]

Kenneh has never played first team football.

I like the sound of him but we shouldn’t be counting on a 19 year old who’s never played first team football to fix what was a disaster of a midfield last season.

Without having seen him play, he makes me think of Craig Rocastle.

Big, strong ball winner who has just fallen short of making an impact at a big club down South.

Until we’ve seen him play we won’t know if he can be relied upon, but he’s been needing an opportunity and we’ve been needing a player with his skill set.

I think he’s going to be good, he’s a type of player we’ve been lacking.

[number9dream]

I take it Hamilton hasn’t progressed in the last couple of years if he’s not been snapped up on a pre contract before now. He was rumoured to be being watched by Liverpool and looked a real prospect, if still quite raw, when he broke through at 17.

Played a lot at right-back last season, which suggests his development as a centre-half may have stalled.
I’d like to see us add a more seasoned central defender - or two.

[superfurryhibby]

The first team still needs more players. A central striker, central midfielder and a centre half (at least one, if Porto goes, which I think is almost a given). That's a key group of players who operate down the spine of the side. Hopefully some of our many young players are able to step up to the mark, and some of the inconsistent/poor performers (like JDH, Newell and Campbell) are able to raise their games. However, I'm far from being convinced about our squad so far.

Fortunately, there will be more action on the departures and incomings over the next few weeks.

[SlickShoes]

I'm not sure that is completely true. He definitely had opportunities but was left aimless most of the time albeit he is an adult and should be looking to change issues for himself. He really needs to man up but I think someone to put a routine in place and hold his hand through it, is what he needs. Some guidance and tough love. It's still there, just needs brought back out.

I don't think the solution for what seem like serious mental health issues is to "man up". He has struggled for years now, we can't just force him to get back to his best, it is all up to him. None of us really know what's going on but for someone so naturally gifted there has to be some serious stuff going on in his head for his career to drop like a stone as it has.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The first team still needs more players. A central striker, central midfielder and a centre half (at least one, if Porto goes, which I think is almost a given). That's a key group of players who operate down the spine of the side. Hopefully some of our many young players are able to step up to the mark, and some of the inconsistent/poor performers (like JDH, Newell and Campbell) are able to raise their games. However, I'm far from being convinced about our squad so far.

Fortunately, there will be more action on the departures and incomings over the next few weeks.

I’m not all that sure Porteous will be going anywhere.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see this window pass without any real interest in him.

[Fergus52]

Kenneh has never played first team football.

I like the sound of him but we shouldn’t be counting on a 19 year old who’s never played first team football to fix what was a disaster of a midfield last season.

Leeds wanted to keep him, he took a pay cut to come, and Johnson has been raving about him to fans at those private events.

He's almost definitely coming in to be our starting ball winner in midfield, lack of experience or not.

When JDH and Newell both win plenty of tackles as well, a ball winner is the last thing we need added to the midfield.

Wouldn't say no to some more pace, stamina and creativity in there though.

[Brightside]

Kenneh has never played first team football.

I like the sound of him but we shouldn’t be counting on a 19 year old who’s never played first team football to fix what was a disaster of a midfield last season.

Squad numbers out and LJ is clear he wants Kenneh to be his no6. And to play the number 6 role. Source: Hibs Press release today.

[MrRobot]

Said it many times before, I'd have Griffiths back with us in a flash! A rigorous fitness routine, health and wellbeing coach and councillor assigned to ensure his mental health was taken care of. I would bet within a short time he would be lean, fit, focussed and scoring goals for fun with us. There is still goals in him!

Find it mental that people still want this guy back at the club :dunno:

[Vault Boy]

Tait and MacKay are included in the squad numbers confirmation

[OldEast]

Find it mental that people still want this guy back at the club :dunno:

Whilst conceding I'm doing the same, I find it mental that people find other people's opinions mental. 🥴🥴🥴It's all about opinion.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Leeds wanted to keep him, he took a pay cut to come, and Johnson has been raving about him to fans at those private events.

He's almost definitely coming in to be our starting ball winner in midfield, lack of experience or not.

When JDH and Newell both win plenty of tackles as well, a ball winner is the last thing we need added to the midfield.

Wouldn't say no to some more pace, stamina and creativity in there though.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against him starting. I just think we need another new body in to start alongside him. It wouldn’t really be fair for him to be left to drag Newell and JDH up a level after poor seasons.

[Northernhibee]

Find it mental that people still want this guy back at the club :dunno:

Yep. He wasn't up to standard at Falkirk playing against part timers FFS. Unless it's through a serious injury and recovering a footballer shouldn't be finding themselves in that position.

His attitude isn't good enough for Hibs and nowadays his ability isn't good enough for Hibs.

[Fergus52]

Fingers crossed you’re right but we’ve seen enough of them all other than Magennis to say they aren’t all that. I don’t think Newell is anywhere near one of the best centre mids in the league out with the OF either. Infact I don’t even think he’s good enough to start every week for us and don’t think he offers anywhere near enough.



To be fair, I said in terms of technical ability not all round game - Ferguson, Beningame, Ronan, Levitt, maybe Devlin and Harkes were probably the best non OF centre mids in the league last season. I'd say Newall's first touch, technique and close control in tight spaces is better than all those players, but they obviously have other aspects to their games that are stronger compared to Newall.

Last season its widely accepted he was poor, but on Whoscored ratings (which aren't perfect by any means, but the way they're compiled based on various metrics for each position means they're a pretty good tool for trying to objectively compare players) he was still the 6th best non OF centre mid in the league last season. Behind Ferguson, McGrath, Devlin, Harkes and Ronan.

He's already proven he's good enough to start each week for us, when he was excellent in the season we came third. He was basically responsible for all of our ball progression through the midfield that year as he was next to Gogic who could barely pass the ball ten yards.

Stick some off the ball runners around him to create space for him to play in to and I think we'll see him shine next season. We really lacked good movement to create space under both Ross and Maloney, which is partly responsible for all the backwards and sideways passing we saw from him and JDH imo.

Can't really see him being regularly benched next season, and rightfully so, but time will tell.

[superfurryhibby]

I’m not all that sure Porteous will be going anywhere.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see this window pass without any real interest in him.

He's in his last year of his contract and would be a low risk gamble for a Championship side for a guy with all the attributes (if we exclude the occasional daft mistake and impetuous actions).

Either way, we still need better a better centre half than Rocky to challenge Porto and Hanlon.

[Paulie Walnuts]

To be fair, I said in terms of technical ability not all round game - Ferguson, Beningame, Ronan, Levitt, maybe Devlin and Harkes were probably the best non OF centre mids in the league last season. I'd say Newall's first touch, technique and close control in tight spaces is better than all those players, but they obviously have other aspects to their games that are stronger compared to Newall.

Last season its widely accepted he was poor, but on Whoscored ratings (which aren't perfect by any means, but the way they're compiled based on various metrics for each position means they're a pretty good tool for trying to objectively compare players) he was still the 6th best non OF centre mid in the league last season. Behind Ferguson, McGrath, Devlin, Harkes and Ronan.

He's already proven he's good enough to start each week for us, when he was excellent in the season we came third. He was basically responsible for all of our ball progression through the midfield that year as he was next to Gogic who could barely pass the ball ten yards.

Stick some off the ball runners around him to create space for him to play in to and I think we'll see him shine next season. We really lacked good movement to create space under both Ross and Maloney, which is partly responsible for all the backwards and sideways passing we saw from him and JDH imo.

Can't really see him being regularly benched next season, and rightfully so, but time will tell.

You did, apologies.

Thing is, that’s JDH who’s statistically one of the best in some areas and Newell who’s one of the best in another set of statistics yet we could all see in the majority of games last season how poor our midfield was. Statistics can only tell you so much.

We’ll see how he goes this season. I’d suspect that if Magennis can get fit and stay fit (big if) and Kenneh turns out a good signing that Newell will be out of the team more often than not.

[delbert]

The first team still needs more players. A central striker, central midfielder and a centre half (at least one, if Porto goes, which I think is almost a given). That's a key group of players who operate down the spine of the side. Hopefully some of our many young players are able to step up to the mark, and some of the inconsistent/poor performers (like JDH, Newell and Campbell) are able to raise their games. However, I'm far from being convinced about our squad so far.

Fortunately, there will be more action on the departures and incomings over the next few weeks.

You are spot on mate and it’s baffling that with less than three weeks to go till we play competitive football, the spine of the first team hasn’t been properly addressed.

[BlackSheep]

Squad numbers out and LJ is clear he wants Kenneh to be his no6. And to play the number 6 role. Source: Hibs Press release today.

My mate says he is the stand out at training just now, not just from the new signings, but in the whole squad.

I look forward to seeing him in the green and white!

[badabing67]

Could Boyler be coming back

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/martin-boyle-hibs-return-hope-27344353

[Souter96Mac]

If it was even possible getting Boyle back, that would scenes of the highest order

[Unseen work]

Unless Boyle had a clause in his contract that said if they got relegated his wage went from 20+k a week to 1k a week then it’s a non starter.

He went there for money and I imagine he’ll see out the contract.

[SHODAN]

McClelland's been named in the first team so added him to the Ins.

[jacomo]

Leeds wanted to keep him, he took a pay cut to come, and Johnson has been raving about him to fans at those private events.

He's almost definitely coming in to be our starting ball winner in midfield, lack of experience or not.

When JDH and Newell both win plenty of tackles as well, a ball winner is the last thing we need added to the midfield.

Wouldn't say no to some more pace, stamina and creativity in there though.


All true but it would be unreasonable to pile too much expectation on his shoulders too soon.

With Magennis maybe not ready either we need another midfielder in imo.

[superfurryhibby]

You are spot on mate and it’s baffling that with less than three weeks to go till we play competitive football, the spine of the first team hasn’t been properly addressed.

I'm also puzzled by references for the need for players to outgoing before we bring more in. I would have thought the Boyle money would have meant we could afford some more established first team quality players, particularly when you consider that Gogic, Boyle, Allan, McGinn, Macey have all gone. We have Marshall, Miller and McGeady in, who will no doubt account for some of those wages. Mot sure how all the youngsters fit in in terms of wages etc.

I do expect more movement soon. Porto and Doig will probably bring fees in, although if they go, both will be hard to replace with guys of a similar quality. Expecting more action in the coming weeks, no doubt about it, this squad remains a work in progress.

[SHODAN]

I'm also puzzled by references for the need for players to outgoing before we bring more in. I would have thought the Boyle money would have meant we could afford some more established first team quality players, particularly when you consider that Gogic, Boyle, Allan, McGinn, Macey have all gone. We have Marshall, Miller and McGeady in, who will no doubt account for some of those wages. Mot sure how all the youngsters fit in in terms of wages etc.

I do expect more movement soon. Porto and Doig will probably bring fees in, although if they go, both will be hard to replace with guys of a similar quality. Expecting more action in the coming weeks, no doubt about it, this squad remains a work in progress.

:agree:

Not expecting much more than a transitional season as things stand.

[Since452]

You are spot on mate and it’s baffling that with less than three weeks to go till we play competitive football, the spine of the first team hasn’t been properly addressed.

How do you know it hasn't been? We've signed a goalkeeper, a central midfielder and a center forward. Hanlon and Porteous are still here and he's looking to add another central defender. We've signed eight players so far. I don't know what else people expect?

[Lago]

:hyper
Griffiths is still available.

[xqnq1875]

Wouldn’t look in to this Boyle coming back saga too much


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[Paulie Walnuts]

How do you know it hasn't been? We've signed a goalkeeper, a central midfielder and a center forward. Hanlon and Porteous are still here and he's looking to add another central defender. We've signed eight players so far. I don't know what else people expect?

Quantity clearly isn’t an issue all the way through the squad. Quality is though imo. The quality wasn’t there last season in centre mid and all we’ve done since is add Kenneh whos 19 and never played a first team game. He sounds promising, but we need more than that in centre mid.

[Alex Trager]

Quantity clearly isn’t an issue all the way through the squad. Quality is though imo. The quality wasn’t there last season in centre mid and all we’ve done since is add Kenneh whos 19 and never played a first team game. He sounds promising, but we need more than that in centre mid.

Aye I want more quality in central midfield.

I want a quality centre half (2 if RP leaves).

Two quality additions and I would be satisfied so long as we don’t lose anyone we need.

Any movement out of our top players then they need replaced.

[BILLYHIBS]

Gabriel Jesus having medical at Arsenal ahead of 45m move from Man City

BBC News

[stokesmessiah]

Gabriel Jesus having medical at Arsenal ahead of 45m move from Man City

BBC News

Good signing for them!

[Gordy M]

I'm also puzzled by references for the need for players to outgoing before we bring more in. I would have thought the Boyle money would have meant we could afford some more established first team quality players, particularly when you consider that Gogic, Boyle, Allan, McGinn, Macey have all gone. We have Marshall, Miller and McGeady in, who will no doubt account for some of those wages. Mot sure how all the youngsters fit in in terms of wages etc.

I do expect more movement soon. Porto and Doig will probably bring fees in, although if they go, both will be hard to replace with guys of a similar quality. Expecting more action in the coming weeks, no doubt about it, this squad remains a work in progress.

Thing is with the midefield, we currently have probably 5 players vying for 2 places in CM. Im not sure its monetary, more about having too big a squad.

[Since452]

Quantity clearly isn’t an issue all the way through the squad. Quality is though imo. The quality wasn’t there last season in centre mid and all we’ve done since is add Kenneh whos 19 and never played a first team game. He sounds promising, but we need more than that in centre mid.

We have no idea how the new players will perform. I'm sure we'll still add another couple between now and our first league game with a few leaving.

[j'adorehibs]

People are delusional if they think the squad can be managed in one transfer window.


We have brought in 8, of which id expect most to be vyinmg for starting positions, let go most of the squad that would not feature even if we have injuries etc.

For more players in we will need players out . Id agree we have some concerns in midfield and at CH but you cant just keep bringing in players.

For another midfielder i suspect we would need Campbell/Newell or JDH to be moved on difficult considering their contracts - likewise for a striker Doidge would have to move. Again he has a longer term contract.

We need to have faith in LJ that he can get the new signings up to speed and starting and with those we have suffered with to date and tied down being improved . Who knows - new tactics just may bring the best out of those.

[MWHIBBIES]

Unless Boyle had a clause in his contract that said if they got relegated his wage went from 20+k a week to 1k a week then it’s a non starter.

He went there for money and I imagine he’ll see out the contract.

Indeed. He didn't go there for the quality of football so relegation makes no difference

[Mcbizz1998]

Indeed. He didn't go there for the quality of football so relegation makes no difference

Will he continue to get picked for Australia playing in a diddy footballing nation, in their diddy league?

[500miles]

Gogic to Dundee United.

[Springbank]

People are delusional if they think the squad can be managed in one transfer window.


We have brought in 8, of which id expect most to be vyinmg for starting positions, let go most of the squad that would not feature even if we have injuries etc.

For more players in we will need players out . Id agree we have some concerns in midfield and at CH but you cant just keep bringing in players.

For another midfielder i suspect we would need Campbell/Newell or JDH to be moved on difficult considering their contracts - likewise for a striker Doidge would have to move. Again he has a longer term contract.

We need to have faith in LJ that he can get the new signings up to speed and starting and with those we have suffered with to date and tied down being improved . Who knows - new tactics just may bring the best out of those.

Good post

I agree with pretty much all of it

Can't do everything in one window, but the Kenneh signing was a key one I think

Our squad looks better now than it did at the recent Hampden semi final (to put it that way) and I always think a board member should approach the transfer window on the basis we will potentially have a major cup game against a Hearts or a Rangers, and you want to be going into that with a good team (not asking the manager to take a knife to a gun fight)

Sad to say it, but Paul McGinn coughing away possession cheaply and our centre-mid positions were our undoing in that semi, and at least those have had some attention this window.

I'd agree with yesterday's headlines too, that a centre half is the next priority

And fwiw, I was a Lee Johnson sceptic at first, but his decisiveness, and his confident approach, are actually what I thought we might have been getting in Maloney (but didn't) and I'm really glad to have LJ in post this summer. Think most of the signings have made perfect sense so far.

[SlickShoes]

Will he continue to get picked for Australia playing in a diddy footballing nation, in their diddy league?

Probably yeah

[Paulie Walnuts]

We have no idea how the new players will perform. I'm sure we'll still add another couple between now and our first league game with a few leaving.

Of course we don’t.

Centre mid is somewhere most people want another player though despite the fact that on paper we’ve got the numbers that we shouldn’t need more. Only one of them is a new player and it was our worst area of our team last season.

Whether we’ve signed 8 or 9 players, whether we’ve got 6 or 7 centre midfielders, we still need to bring in quality in there regardless imo because it’s just not there as it stands and that’s the case whether we move anybody on or not. We can’t just settle on our centre midfield as it is because there’s alot of them or else we’ll struggle next season imo.

[Smartie]

Of course we don’t.

Centre mid is somewhere most people want another player though despite the fact that on paper we’ve got the numbers that we shouldn’t need more. Only one of them is a new player and it was our worst area of our team last season.

Whether we’ve signed 8 or 9 players, whether we’ve got 6 or 7 centre midfielders, we still need to bring in quality in there regardless imo because it’s just not there as it stands and that’s the case whether we move anybody on or not. We can’t just settle on our centre midfield as it is because there’s alot of them or else we’ll struggle next season imo.

Whilst the midfield was awful, I'd argue we were worse up front last season. Boyle did a decent job there at times when he was still with us but we were atrocious up front for various reasons for most of the season.

[The Modfather]

Whilst the midfield was awful, I'd argue we were worse up front last season. Boyle did a decent job there at times when he was still with us but we were atrocious up front for various reasons for most of the season.

I think we were so toothless up front last year in part because of the midfield. What a thankless task it was for anyone playing up front or hitting the bye line to look at the box and see one, maybe two players in there. While we had 3 midfielders holding hands watching the attack from the half way line.

[matty_f]

Gogic to Dundee United is an odd one given Ross had stopped playing him at Hibs.

[Lester B]

Of course we don’t.

Centre mid is somewhere most people want another player though despite the fact that on paper we’ve got the numbers that we shouldn’t need more. Only one of them is a new player and it was our worst area of our team last season.

Whether we’ve signed 8 or 9 players, whether we’ve got 6 or 7 centre midfielders, we still need to bring in quality in there regardless imo because it’s just not there as it stands and that’s the case whether we move anybody on or not. We can’t just settle on our centre midfield as it is because there’s alot of them or else we’ll struggle next season imo.

While adding in that area would be desirable, LJ does have a track record of improving younger players quite markedly. Yes the centre midfield was very poor under Maloney but what area of the team looked much cop under his management. I think people writing off JDH, Henderson and even Campbell is a bit of a kneejerk reaction.

And I have a feeling, reinforced by a couple of comments on here, that Kenneh is going to be the type of player than we'll enjoy while we have him as he's quite possibly headed for bigger things than us.

[superfurryhibby]

While adding in that area would be desirable, LJ does have a track record of improving younger players quite markedly. Yes the centre midfield was very poor under Maloney but what area of the team looked much cop under his management. I think people writing off JDH, Henderson and even Campbell is a bit of a kneejerk reaction.

And I have a feeling, reinforced by a couple of comments on here, that Kenneh is going to be the type of player than we'll enjoy while we have him as he's quite possibly headed for bigger things than us.

Feelings like the ones you have about Kennah are based on pure guess work. Time will tell.

Being concerned about a midfield with JDH, Campbell and Henderson is based on having watched them in action last season and not really kneejerk. No one is writing anyone off, but we are expressing views that this area of the team was gash and those guys were culpable, to a greater or lesser extent. That's pretty reasonable to my mind and the opposite to kneejerk.

[King Cosell]

Inverness have signed Max Ram from Wycombe. Max Ram!

[jacomo]

Wouldn’t look in to this Boyle coming back saga too much


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Ah so it’s a saga now?

Need to update myself on all the twists and turns so far.

[badabing67]

Gogic to Dundee United is an odd one given Ross had stopped playing him at Hibs.

Jack must think he is as good as or better than he has already got. Personally i think it is a good signing for them Jack knows what he is getting

[Lester B]

Feelings like the ones you have about Kennah are based on pure guess work. Time will tell.

Being concerned about a midfield with JDH, Campbell and Henderson is based on having watched them in action last season and not really kneejerk. No one is writing anyone off, but we are expressing views that this area of the team was gash and those guys were culpable, to a greater or lesser extent. That's pretty reasonable to my mind and the opposite to kneejerk.

It's not pure guesswork at all. He's got the reputation as a very strong, capable player despite his age, Leeds fans were disappointed that he was leaving and accounts here about the training camp say he's already impressing massively.

So it's not really kneejerk and the opposite of kneejerk. Apparently. Who played well under Maloney? A lot of people here are writing them off. No point pretending otherwise. You're not writing them off but they were gash and culpable? Can they improve under a better manager? One who has developed other young players at other clubs?

[jacomo]

It's not pure guesswork at all. He's got the reputation as a very strong, capable player despite his age, Leeds fans were disappointed that he was leaving and accounts here about the training camp say he's already impressing massively.

So it's not really kneejerk and the opposite of kneejerk. Apparently. Who played well under Maloney? A lot of people here are writing them off. No point pretending otherwise. You're not writing them off but they were gash and culpable? Can they improve under a better manager? One who has developed other young players at other clubs?


He’s got zero first team experience.

Our manager is very positive about him but let’s keep expectations realistic.

[Big_Franck]

Will he continue to get picked for Australia playing in a diddy footballing nation, in their diddy league?

They pick players still playing in Australia, so yeah.

[superfurryhibby]

It's not pure guesswork at all. He's got the reputation as a very strong, capable player despite his age, Leeds fans were disappointed that he was leaving and accounts here about the training camp say he's already impressing massively.

So it's not really kneejerk and the opposite of kneejerk. Apparently. Who played well under Maloney? A lot of people here are writing them off. No point pretending otherwise. You're not writing them off but they were gash and culpable? Can they improve under a better manager? One who has developed other young players at other clubs?

I’m always hopeful, but I don’t think either of the three I mentioned will have a positive impact on the side this season. That’s based on having to endure their efforts last season. JDH and Campbell both played under Ross too.

The side needs additions in a key area of the field. An untested 19 year old isn’t filling the criteria for me. We’ve seen many youngsters with similar backgrounds come up here and flop miserably.

I would add that Johnson is also a semi unknown quantity. He’s experienced, but so were the likes of Heckingbottom and Calderwood when they came. TBF! I have no idea as to his capacity to improve players or build an effective team either. Adding some proven quality in the key areas will help though, I’m pretty sure about that.

[Mcbizz1998]

They pick players still playing in Australia, so yeah.

Surely the Australian league is better standard than where Boyle will be playing next season?

He is now playing in a complete backwater. In a footballing sense and in general.

[Since452]

Boyle now knows playing in the Saudi 2nd division isn't going to improve him as a player. He'll obviously still be picking up a decent wedge but he'll surely be having thoughts about moving. I genuinley wouldn't be surprised if he comes back.

[ancient hibee]

Boyle now knows playing in the Saudi 2nd division isn't going to improve him as a player. He'll obviously still be picking up a decent wedge but he'll surely be having thoughts about moving. I genuinley wouldn't be surprised if he comes back.

Going there in the first place wasn't going to improve him as a player. He,rightly, went for the money and that'll still be his first consideration.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think we were so toothless up front last year in part because of the midfield. What a thankless task it was for anyone playing up front or hitting the bye line to look at the box and see one, maybe two players in there. While we had 3 midfielders holding hands watching the attack from the half way line.

Yup, that’s pretty much the way I seen last season. We got away with it with Boyle here to some degree because individually he was exceptional and could create things for himself. He was as good as a one man team.

Once he left there was next to nothing being created by Newell, JDH, Campbell or Wright who mainly played through the centre. The strikers would either have to do it all themselves (which is a ridiculous expectation of Melkersen for example) or they weren’t going to get any opportunities.

Our strikers were offering nothing because they were given absolutely nothing to work with by our midfield which was desperately poor imo. Could the strikers have done more to create things themselves? Possibly. Could the midfielders have done more? They absolutely should have imo.

[Brightside]

So if we had signed say a 30 year old journey man from England Div 1, would some be more excited than if we'd bought a 19yo up and coming player from LEEDS? The boy is being pumped up not by the fans but by Hibs. He's a quality player and Hibs "cannot believe" we've got him. There is nothing wrong with having some positivity about our team and the season ahead. Better that than to have some daft idea that we are going to replace the whole midfield. We have signed a senior pro attacking midfielder and a quality young DM. Thats nothing but positive.

[Paulie Walnuts]

So if we had signed say a 30 year old journey man from England Div 1, would some be more excited than if we'd bought a 19yo up and coming player from LEEDS? The boy is being pumped up not by the fans but by Hibs. He's a quality player and Hibs "cannot believe" we've got him. There is nothing wrong with having some positivity about our team and the season ahead. Better that than to have some daft idea that we are going to replace the whole midfield. We have signed a senior pro attacking midfielder and a quality young DM. Thats nothing but positive.

Nobody has criticised the signing of Kenneh or said they’d rather we’d signed a 30 year old journeyman. Most people are really quite positive about him if you read through the thread.

Nobody has also said that there’s anything wrong with people being positive.

People are saying we need others to go along with him that aren’t the same players who failed us so badly last season. Expecting the arrival of a 19 year old laddie with absolutely zero first team experience to fix our massive midfield issues would be mental.

[snedzuk]

Inverness have signed Max Ram from Wycombe. Max Ram!

Bet thats got the sheep worried.

[SlickShoes]

Boyle now knows playing in the Saudi 2nd division isn't going to improve him as a player. He'll obviously still be picking up a decent wedge but he'll surely be having thoughts about moving. I genuinley wouldn't be surprised if he comes back.

He is 29, if the team are willing to keep paying him he will see out his contract, this contract will see him comfortable for the rest of his life should he see it out.

[Scooter]

I'm sure his goals/assists haven't been great over there

[SlickShoes]

I'm sure his goals/assists haven't been great over there

In the league

Played 13 Goals 3 Assists 1.

His team in that period Played 13 - Won 4 - Draw 5 - Loss 4

[Fergus52]

I’m always hopeful, but I don’t think either of the three I mentioned will have a positive impact on the side this season. That’s based on having to endure their efforts last season. JDH and Campbell both played under Ross too.

The side needs additions in a key area of the field. An untested 19 year old isn’t filling the criteria for me. We’ve seen many youngsters with similar backgrounds come up here and flop miserably.

I would add that Johnson is also a semi unknown quantity. He’s experienced, but so were the likes of Heckingbottom and Calderwood when they came. TBF! I have no idea as to his capacity to improve players or build an effective team either. Adding some proven quality in the key areas will help though, I’m pretty sure about that.

We've seen plenty premier league youth and reserve players come here and flop, but not many were as highly rated as Kenneh clearly is by the Leeds fans and both Hibs and Leeds management.

Your Daniel Boetang's etc. were clearly never going to make it at that level but were still hanging on to long term youth contracts at their parent clubs and going out on new loans every 6 months.

Most clear equivalent to Kenneh I can see is Beningame, who despite being highly rated at Everton had only played 10 senior games with most off them of the bench, before coming to hearts at 22 (3 years older than Kenneh is) and being one of the best players in the league last season.

[Brightside]

Nobody has criticised the signing of Kenneh or said they’d rather we’d signed a 30 year old journeyman. Most people are really quite positive about him if you read through the thread.

Nobody has also said that there’s anything wrong with people being positive.

People are saying we need others to go along with him that aren’t the same players who failed us so badly last season. Expecting the arrival of a 19 year old laddie with absolutely zero first team experience to fix our massive midfield issues would be mental.

I dont think they failed us so badly, but they weren't great going forward. But the management team also explained that they were hamstrung by not having a natural DM. This meant that the JDH and Newell both ended up sharing responsibilities for the role and neither doing it properly. The club have been saying all year that we are missing a natural no6. Now we have him and I think we will see a huge difference in the way the team operates in that area. JDH and Newell wont be going anywhere.

[J-C]

I hope Boyle has a relegation clause in there which might allow him to leave if a certain amount is offered.

[Unseen work]

We've seen plenty premier league youth and reserve players come here and flop, but not many were as highly rated as Kenneh clearly is by the Leeds fans and both Hibs and Leeds management.

Your Daniel Boetang's etc. were clearly never going to make it at that level but were still hanging on to long term youth contracts at their parent clubs and going out on new loans every 6 months.

Most clear equivalent to Kenneh I can see is Beningame, who despite being highly rated at Everton had only played 10 senior games with most off them of the bench, before coming to hearts at 22 (3 years older than Kenneh is) and being one of the best players in the league last season.

I do think he’ll be good but then I thought Darnell Johnson, Nathan Wood etc would be good too and look how they turned out 🤣

[J-C]

I dont think they failed us so badly, but they weren't great going forward. But the management team also explained that they were hamstrung by not having a natural DM. This meant that the JDH and Newell both ended up sharing responsibilities for the role and neither doing it properly. The club have been saying all year that we are missing a natural no6. Now we have him and I think we will see a huge difference in the way the team operates in that area. JDH and Newell wont be going anywhere.

Our biggest failing was not getting a player similar to Magennis and not getting a Boyle replacement.

[Springbank]

Let's hope Inverness give Max Ram the shirt number 1902
Instant classic.

Oh and on Martin Boyle, yes, there's the money to think of. But for the one and only time in his life (probably) there is also the small matter of playing at a level that ensures he makes the Australia world cup squad.

Hibs provide that...

[Brightside]

Our biggest failing was not getting a player similar to Magennis and not getting a Boyle replacement.

And we have hopefully backed up on both those positions now.

[CapitalGreen]

We've seen plenty premier league youth and reserve players come here and flop, but not many were as highly rated as Kenneh clearly is by the Leeds fans and both Hibs and Leeds management.

Your Daniel Boetang's etc. were clearly never going to make it at that level but were still hanging on to long term youth contracts at their parent clubs and going out on new loans every 6 months.

Most clear equivalent to Kenneh I can see is Beningame, who despite being highly rated at Everton had only played 10 senior games with most off them of the bench, before coming to hearts at 22 (3 years older than Kenneh is) and being one of the best players in the league last season.

2 more examples

Jeremie Frimpong - joined Celtic at 18 having never made a first team appearance for Man City - sold 18 months later for £12m.

Calvin Bassey - joined Rangers at 20 having never made a first team appearance for Leicester City - 2 years later linked with £20m+ moves back to the EPL.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Boyle now knows playing in the Saudi 2nd division isn't going to improve him as a player. He'll obviously still be picking up a decent wedge but he'll surely be having thoughts about moving. I genuinley wouldn't be surprised if he comes back.

Maybe on a loan deal?

[jacomo]

I think we were so toothless up front last year in part because of the midfield. What a thankless task it was for anyone playing up front or hitting the bye line to look at the box and see one, maybe two players in there. While we had 3 midfielders holding hands watching the attack from the half way line.


:agree:

Our forward players barely got any service with Maloneyball… at best they would receive the ball with one or two defenders on them already and couldn’t do anything with it.

[superfurryhibby]

We've seen plenty premier league youth and reserve players come here and flop, but not many were as highly rated as Kenneh clearly is by the Leeds fans and both Hibs and Leeds management.

Your Daniel Boetang's etc. were clearly never going to make it at that level but were still hanging on to long term youth contracts at their parent clubs and going out on new loans every 6 months.

Most clear equivalent to Kenneh I can see is Beningame, who despite being highly rated at Everton had only played 10 senior games with most off them of the bench, before coming to hearts at 22 (3 years older than Kenneh is) and being one of the best players in the league last season.

I accept your point about the likes of Boateng, Johnso, Woods etc and that from others who have mentioned Calvin Bassey as an example of a young player coming in an having a decent impact. Bassey (albeit as a defender) in particular has developed at an amazing level, having now shown his qualities on the European stage.

As a general rule, it's not common to see players with so little/no first team experience come into the SPFL and impose their game on the rascals who operate in the engine room of most teams. It's a big ask. That said, I do recall a young Kevin Thomson doing just that at Hibs. I remember seeing him doing just that, against an ageing Barry Ferguson and thinking that the laddie had everything needed to be a huge star.

Lewis Ferguson is a more recent example of a young guy who stepped up and made a huge impact, with very little experience and at a similar age.

Time will tell, but I'm still fervently hoping that we bring in better quality into the central area than we have just now. None of JDH, Newell, Campbell have enough of what it takes. I'd be glad to see them all go.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I accept your point about the likes of Boateng, Johnso, Woods etc and that from others who have mentioned Calvin Bassey as an example of a young player coming in an having a decent impact. Bassey (albeit as a defender) in particular has developed at an amazing level, having now shown his qualities on the European stage.

As a general rule, it's not common to see players with so little/no first team experience come into the SPFL and impose their game on the rascals who operate in the engine room of most teams. It's a big ask. That said, I do recall a young Kevin Thomson doing just that at Hibs. I remember seeing him doing just that, against an ageing Barry Ferguson and thinking that the laddie had everything needed to be a huge star.

Lewis Ferguson is a more recent example of a young guy who stepped up and made a huge impact, with very little experience and at a similar age.

Time will tell, but I'm still fervently hoping that we bring in better quality into the central area than we have just now. None of JDH, Newell, Campbell have enough of what it takes. I'd be glad to see them all go.

Barry Ferguson was not ageing

[Fergus52]

I accept your point about the likes of Boateng, Johnso, Woods etc and that from others who have mentioned Calvin Bassey as an example of a young player coming in an having a decent impact. Bassey (albeit as a defender) in particular has developed at an amazing level, having now shown his qualities on the European stage.

As a general rule, it's not common to see players with so little/no first team experience come into the SPFL and impose their game on the rascals who operate in the engine room of most teams. It's a big ask. That said, I do recall a young Kevin Thomson doing just that at Hibs. I remember seeing him doing just that, against an ageing Barry Ferguson and thinking that the laddie had everything needed to be a huge star.

Lewis Ferguson is a more recent example of a young guy who stepped up and made a huge impact, with very little experience and at a similar age.

Time will tell, but I'm still fervently hoping that we bring in better quality into the central area than we have just now. None of JDH, Newell, Campbell have enough of what it takes. I'd be glad to see them all go.

We can debate all day long about the quality and strengths and weaknesses of those said players - I think the three of them still have something to offer and you clearly think otherwise.

But realistically we were never going to get rid of all three and bring in two more starting midfielders alongside Kenneh.

We've already signed 6 or 7 players who will be looking to start most weeks and are looking for a starting CB. If we also released Newell and JDH and signed two more midfielders it would basically be a whole new starting 11.

That much upheaval in one window almost never works, especially at our level. A poster previously used the example of Celtic last season but if you look at their starting 11s post August about half of the players were already there the season before.

A club of our size is never going to sign a whole new starting 11, alongside a few new backups, in one window. It's completely unrealistic both financially and in terms of expecting them to immediately gel together and form good team chemistry.

After the relegation season I'm sure plenty of fans would have been happy to see the back of Craig, Robertson, Hanlon, Stevenson, Handling etc. but all of them were pretty good in Stubbs's first season when he got them performing well above the levels they'd been at the season before, in a new system with better players around them. No reason Johnson can't do the same this year.

[superfurryhibby]

Barry Ferguson was not ageing

He was a grizzled veteran by comparison to the 2005-2006 season Thomson, but I concede not that old.

[Greenworld]

The clause for Boyle was :

As part of the agreement, the Saudi Arabian club must notify Hibs if they ever intend to sell Boyle to another British team.

The financial terms of the offer received for the Australia international would have to be disclosed to the Premiership side, who would then decide whether to match the offer, or let Boyle move to another club



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[Dmas]

Latapy appointed assistant manager at MacArthur FC that the club we got miller from?

[JimBHibees]

Latapy appointed assistant manager at MacArthur FC that the club we got miller from?

Yes

[gbhibby]

Latapy appointed assistant manager at MacArthur FC that the club we got miller from?
Him and Dwight Yorke together the team night outs will be interesting. Notice that Dembele has been let go by Celtic.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Any clubs in the Championship down South just sold / looking for a winger? Was it Stoke who were linked with him before the move to the Middle East came about?

I’d say that would be his best chance of getting a similar salary without staying in Saudi at another team out there.

[xqnq1875]

Latapy appointed assistant manager at MacArthur FC that the club we got miller from?

Nah mate think we got Miller from Central Coast Mariners


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[CapitalGreen]

Nah mate think we got Miller from Central Coast Mariners


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We did but he had already agreed to join MacArthur but with a get out clause if a European club came in to for him. Same situation as when Hearts signed Devlin.

[Edinburgh Green]

Nah mate think we got Miller from Central Coast Mariners


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He’d signed a pre contract with MacArthur, it was them we bought him off

[xqnq1875]

He’d signed a pre contract with MacArthur, it was them we bought him off

Ah never knew that mate, cheers


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[K-Zazu]

We've seen plenty premier league youth and reserve players come here and flop, but not many were as highly rated as Kenneh clearly is by the Leeds fans and both Hibs and Leeds management.

Your Daniel Boetang's etc. were clearly never going to make it at that level but were still hanging on to long term youth contracts at their parent clubs and going out on new loans every 6 months.

Most clear equivalent to Kenneh I can see is Beningame, who despite being highly rated at Everton had only played 10 senior games with most off them of the bench, before coming to hearts at 22 (3 years older than Kenneh is) and being one of the best players in the league last season.

The best player in the league? Beningame? He only played about 20 games he’s pish

[cameronw-hfc]

Personally think we're still short one in CM, a CB and a left footed winger that can play either side. Otherwise im pretty chuffed with our business.

[hfc-1875]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

[Heisenberg]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

Nisbet won’t be fit to start till later in the year. I don’t mind the look of that side though.

[CallumLaidlaw]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

Definitely not that as Nisbet is out til November time.


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[Allant1981]

Definitely not that as Nisbet is out til November time.


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Would imagine if doidge is still here it will be him, especially as he has just been given the number 9

[McGruber]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

Looks good but can't see it even if nisbet was fit. Seems like 11 of what will be our better players but balance a bit off and a bit top heavy. We have a lot of exciting attacking options though some might find a seat on the bench - 1st game away from home too.

Who knows though, Johnson might be gung ho

[Brightside]

Nisbet won’t be fit to start till later in the year. I don’t mind the look of that side though.

Not sure if Hanlon will be ready to start either.

[Heisenberg]

Not sure if Hanlon will be ready to start either.

Not the best news. Definitely need another left sided central defender to challenge/cover Hanlon next season.

[Aldo]

The best player in the league? Beningame? He only played about 20 games he’s pish

There’s a reason Hearts were able to sign this lad and it’s his injury record!

He’s a good player but I agree nowhere near best in the league!


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[jacomo]

Personally think we're still short one in CM, a CB and a left footed winger that can play either side. Otherwise im pretty chuffed with our business.


Daniel McKay is that winger, will he get a chance?

[Tyler Durden]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

Take out Nisbet and bring in Magennis and I think that won’t be far away.

Just a hunch, but I think it’ll be more like a Liverpool 4-3-3 than a 4–2-3-1

[worcesterhibby]

Not the best news. Definitely need another left sided central defender to challenge/cover Hanlon next season.

the manager has mentioned buying a new centre half at least twice recently, we are definitely after one, I suppose it’s just a matter of doing the right deal for the right player.

[J-C]

Personally think we're still short one in CM, a CB and a left footed winger that can play either side. Otherwise im pretty chuffed with our business.

Demetri Mitchell, left footed winger that can play either side, he's on th main website as a midfielder.

[J-C]

Would imagine if doidge is still here it will be him, especially as he has just been given the number 9

Doidge has had the number 9 shirt since he came, it won't be taken off him.

[Brightside]

Not the best news. Definitely need another left sided central defender to challenge/cover Hanlon next season.

Yeh - last i heard he was only in cardio type training but that may pick up during the trip away. The one thing we dont want to do is rush him back. He never gets time to heal so having a good LCB is a must for us this season.

[Smartie]

Yeh - last i heard he was only in cardio type training but that may pick up during the trip away. The one thing we dont want to do is rush him back. He never gets time to heal so having a good LCB is a must for us this season.

Lewis has been a handy LCB when we’ve played 3 at the back but I think he’d be exploited aerially if he was in the middle of a back 4, so we do need another option.

[Basildon Hibs]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

That midfield will get steamroller.

😐

[SteveHFC]

As it stands how do we think we will start the first game?

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell

Tavares
Mcgeady
Youan

Nisbet

Looks decent to me although ofcourse that’s judging the new additions without seeing them play yet.

Cadden has to be in that 11 somehow.

[Unseen work]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

[SHODAN]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

Can't argue with that.

[Souter96Mac]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

Massive opportunity to make it his own this season, and would save us having to get another body in. Really hoping these young lads can step up and start adding to the first team

[SHODAN]

Doidge has had the number 9 shirt since he came, it won't be taken off him.

It will if he's away to leave ala Macey and #1.

[B.H.F.C]

Cadden has to be in that 11 somehow.

I don’t think he does. With the shape we’re going to play he’s in a straight fight for the right back spot which he’s only occasionally played for us to date.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Massive opportunity to make it his own this season, and would save us having to get another body in. Really hoping these young lads can step up and start adding to the first team

I’m not sure it saves us having to get another body in, it’s not really a Delferriere that we’re needing in there. We’ve already got numerous midfielders who don’t offer a lot going forward.

I could definitely see him having an impact this season though, he comes with a good pedigree and I’m surprised we didn’t see more of him last year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don’t think he does. With the shape we’re going to play he’s in a straight fight for the right back spot which he’s only occasionally played for us to date.

If we’re going 4-3-3 then Cadden can’t be shoehorned in anywhere. It has to be full back. :agree:

[Unseen work]

Ben Purrington signs for Ross County.

Sure we were linked with him either on here or the press.

Good signing for them on paper.

[SHODAN]

Ben Purrington signs for Ross County.

Sure we were linked with him either on here or the press.

Good signing for them on paper.

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[HoboHarry]

Ben Purrington signs for Ross County.

Sure we were linked with him either on here or the press.

Good signing for them on paper.
No worries, I had a bad feline about signing him anyway.....

[allezsauzee]

Ben Purrington signs for Ross County.

Sure we were linked with him either on here or the press.

Good signing for them on paper.

they beat us to the signing by a whisker

[JimBHibees]

they beat us to the signing by a whisker

:greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

they beat us to the signing by a whiskerMalky's the twat that got the cream here I feel.

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[brog]

If we’re going 4-3-3 then Cadden can’t be shoehorned in anywhere. It has to be full back. :agree:
We're not necessarily going 4 at back per Ben K today. 2nd half today was really a back 3 with Cadden in an advanced role though part of that may have been Hartlepool running out of gas.

[hibee1875]

That midfield will get steamroller.

😐

On what basis?

[hibee1875]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

I thought he came in as a RB?

[CapitalGreen]

I thought he came in as a RB?

From official site when he joined.

“Standing at 6ft tall, Delferrière adds more versatility to the Development Squad as he can play both at right-back and in the number 6 role in the middle of midfield.”

[JohnM1875]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

Thought he looked excellent today. I'm sure he'll get another 45 on Friday against better opposition as well.

[hibee1875]

From official site when he joined.

“Standing at 6ft tall, Delferrière adds more versatility to the Development Squad as he can play both at right-back and in the number 6 role in the middle of midfield.”

Thanks 👍

[CapitalGreen]

- Livi anticipating bids for Jack Firzwater
- Bailey Wright contract expiring at Sunderland
- Jamie Hamilton contract expiring at Hamilton

Can rule out Bailey Wright who has just extended his contract at Sunderland.

[jacomo]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.


He’s listed as a defender is he not?

His wee cameo in midfield at the end of last season wasnae good.

EDIT: replied too quick, seems he is a midfielder. If he can step up that would be great. Just needs to get the simple stuff right and then add the tricks. No room for a no.6 continually giving the ball away.

[Brightside]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

He will be in the Dev team most weeks.

[supermcginn]

Turns out there’s no need for another centre mid.

Delferierre is fantastic and will win YPOTY.

Looks absolutely streets ahead of Campbell, very promising.

[Hamish]

Dunfermline wanting Daniel MacKay on loan according to some on Twitter

[McGruber]

Dunfermline wanting Daniel MacKay on loan according to some on Twitter

Hope not. Wouldn't want him loaned out any lower than the Championship.

[CapitalGreen]

Hope not. Wouldn't want him loaned out any lower than the Championship.

Why not if it more likely guarantees him regular first team football?

Porteous and Doig both had loans in League 2 where they were getting regular game time and were ready for the first team on their returns.

[Leith Green]

Looks absolutely streets ahead of Campbell, very promising.


Im hoping we can get campbell a season long loan at championship level. He isnt the answer for us this season, hopefully he get lots of games and can find purpose and what kind of midfielder he is actually suited to playing

[J-C]

Im hoping we can get campbell a season long loan at championship level. He isnt the answer for us this season, hopefully he get lots of games and can find purpose and what kind of midfielder he is actually suited to playing


Campbell got thrown in at the deep end when we were terrible, a new manager and change of tactics may well suit his game better, LJ is seemingly a very good coach, I'd hope he helps youngsters like Campbell, Delferriere etc become better players.

[Dmas]

Why not if it more likely guarantees him regular first team football?

Porteous and Doig both had loans in League 2 where they were getting regular game time and were ready for the first team on their returns.

We got him because he was playing well for a promotion chasing team in championship, if he drops lower than that whats he learning? If he’s going out on loan this year it should be a premier league team

[McGruber]

Why not if it more likely guarantees him regular first team football?

Porteous and Doig both had loans in League 2 where they were getting regular game time and were ready for the first team on their returns.

Yes. And Riordan at Cowdenbeath - the list would go on. It's great for the development just depending on what stage of development you are at. I think MacKay is past the part where the benefit is in just getting games or 'playing mens football' - he was a first team player before his move to us, then loaned out to the top end of the championship. I don't think for him at his stage, his age - having already put the yards in at Championship level is going to improve any in league 1. Would only serve to keep him fit.
The remit must now be for him to get into the Hibs first team - he needs to push on

[04Sauzee]

Oliver Burke about to sign for Werder Bremen.

Boy has some agent.

[Since452]

Hope not. Wouldn't want him loaned out any lower than the Championship.

Yeah loaning him back to Inverness would be a better option.

[McGruber]

Yeah loaning him back to Inverness would be a better option.

That would be a good move (if a bottom end Prem team wouldn't be interested) - maybe even Ross taking him at Dun U given he fancied him at Hibs

[easty]

Oliver Burke about to sign for Werder Bremen.

Boy has some agent.

They got relegated, he’s off to the German second tier.

[Leith Green]

Campbell got thrown in at the deep end when we were terrible, a new manager and change of tactics may well suit his game better, LJ is seemingly a very good coach, I'd hope he helps youngsters like Campbell, Delferriere etc become better players.


Id just like to see him playing regularly and developing a style of play. He looked lost last season, but i agree that he was thrown into a poor midfield and his role pretty unclear. I think regular football a level below would definitely be beneficial to him

[MWHIBBIES]

They got relegated, he’s off to the German second tier.

They got promoted, he's off to the German top tier :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

They got relegated, he’s off to the German second tier.

Just promoted to the top tier.

[Greencore]

Hope not. Wouldn't want him loaned out any lower than the Championship.

Some league league 1 will be next season.

[Brightside]

Looks absolutely streets ahead of Campbell, very promising.

Totally different players / positions.

[Since90+2]

Why not if it more likely guarantees him regular first team football?

Porteous and Doig both had loans in League 2 where they were getting regular game time and were ready for the first team on their returns.

Because the standard of League 1 won't give us a good enough indication of what level he is actually at.

Doing and Porteous were 17/18 when they played at that sort of Level, not 21.

[JammyDoidger]

Another player I'd like us to go for is Callum Doyle, centre half that Johnson signed on loan to Sunderland from Man City, bright future, not sure if they'd rather he tested himself at a higher level though.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Yeah loaning him back to Inverness would be a better option.

He would be a good fit for Dundee if they are looking for a player to replace Adam.

[andrew70]

Another player I'd like us to go for is Callum Doyle, centre half that Johnson signed on loan to Sunderland from Man City, bright future, not sure if they'd rather he tested himself at a higher level though.

Done well with England U19s this summer. Not seen much of him otherwise.

[Dmas]

Someone on twitter linking an Australian midfielder called Callum Timms from Perth glory to 3 Scottish clubs, st johnstone , Dundee Utd and the 3rds a mystery could it be us?

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1542099016724361216?s=21&t=B4uqP4JdU46eynAb3xZNvA

[ChilliEater]

Someone on twitter linking an Australian midfielder called Callum Timms from Perth glory to 3 Scottish clubs, st johnstone , Dundee Utd and the 3rds a mystery could it be us?

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1542099016724361216?s=21&t=B4uqP4JdU46eynAb3xZNvA

Callum Timmins plays for my local team, so I've seen a fair bit of him. Hard to judge as he's been in such an awful side, but I've always found him very frustrating - has some talent, but is very inconsistent, often looks like he can't be bothered, picks up silly bookings, but can be a good ball winner with a nice range of passing. Plays in a holding mid/no. 6 position. As a cheap development squad punt, yes, straight into an SPL midfield, no.

[Unseen work]

Rumours on Twitter that Kensell was telling fans at the game today we’ve agreed a deal for a centre back

Any truth in that?

[brog]

Rumours on Twitter that Kensell was telling fans at the game today we’ve agreed a deal for a centre back

Any truth in that?

Not quite but close

[Dr_Regal]

Rumours on Twitter that Kensell was telling fans at the game today we’ve agreed a deal for a centre back

Any truth in that?

James Chester is the rumour. 32 year old Centre back from villa, on loan at stoke and played 14 times in championship last year.

[JohnM1875]

James Chester is the rumour. 32 year old Centre back from villa, on loan at stoke and played 14 times in championship last year.

Out of contract now so wouldn't cost a fee. Played at a good standard, he's 33 though.

[cameronw-hfc]

James Chester is the rumour. 32 year old Centre back from villa, on loan at stoke and played 14 times in championship last year.


Villa legend for essentially ruining his career to get promotion, had f****ed knees but played with injections and has seriously cost him since.

I'd love it for personal reasons of being a Villan and Hibby but I also know about his lack of knees so im not sure.

[Dazzjw1875]

Hoping it's a LCB to cover or replace hanlon if a better player. But was surprised by the new guy signed from Rangers thought he did OK yesterday.

[Dmas]

James Chester is the rumour. 32 year old Centre back from villa, on loan at stoke and played 14 times in championship last year.

Read last night he’s being lined up by Derby, decent short term move if we get him in help the young guys along,if he does have a bad injury though is he stifling the young guys progression? We’ve got Porto Hanlon Rocky then delferiere Brydon guy we signed from rangers, Chester makes it 7 CH’s

[Brightside]

Read last night he’s being lined up by Derby, decent short term move if we get him in help the young guys along,if he does have a bad injury though is he stifling the young guys progression? We’ve got Porto Hanlon Rocky then delferiere Brydon guy we signed from rangers, Chester makes it 7 CH’s

The young boys will be dev squad in the main. We need someone to cover for Hanlon. I don’t want to start with Rocky and Porto as our CBs.

[LancsHibs]

James Chester is the rumour. 32 year old Centre back from villa, on loan at stoke and played 14 times in championship last year.

Can’t say I’ve heard of him but he’s made 60 starts in EPL with Hull & West Brom and 35 caps for Wales! Must have flown under the radar! Good pedigree

[Hibernian Verse]

Read last night he’s being lined up by Derby, decent short term move if we get him in help the young guys along,if he does have a bad injury though is he stifling the young guys progression? We’ve got Porto Hanlon Rocky then delferiere Brydon guy we signed from rangers, Chester makes it 7 CH’s

Delferriere was signed as a RB/CDM and played in midfield yesterday. Would assume McLelleland and Brydon will be in the dev squad so Chester signing would make it 4 first team CHs.

[Northernhibee]

Delferriere was signed as a RB/CDM and played in midfield yesterday. Would assume McLelleland and Brydon will be in the dev squad so Chester signing would make it 4 first team CHs.

Kenneh played quite a few games at CB for Leeds U23s last season

[Brightside]

Kenneh played quite a few games at CB for Leeds U23s last season

He did but he isn’t coming here to play CB. We must get an experienced CB in now who is ready to play 10+ games per season.

[Heisenberg]

Chester has always played at a good level but seems to have agreed to go to Derby from what I’ve read? Would prefer a left sided, younger option that can challenge/takeover from Hanlon.

[flash]

James Chesters was a more than decent centre half in his day but every single piece of evidence i can find suggests that he is struggling badly these days, presumably due to the knee problems alluded to earlier in this thread.

[Dmas]

Delferriere was signed as a RB/CDM and played in midfield yesterday. Would assume McLelleland and Brydon will be in the dev squad so Chester signing would make it 4 first team CHs.

Didn’t realise that about delferriere, I was just thinking that another CH of similar age to Hanlon or older in Chester’s case, maybe comes across as blocking the pathway, I wouldn’t think mcLelleland will be thinking he’ll be a dev squad player for long he was linked to a few top clubs he’s surely got a starting spot eyed up for us, I think we’re maybe good for now if we have Porto Hanlon Rocky with mcLelleland propping it up from dev squad and then Bryson should disaster strike.
I know there’s a risk with Porto leaving if that’s the case I think we need to be looking at a younger player than Chester who can eventually take over from Hanlon and bring the next young guy on

[Hibernian Verse]

Didn’t realise that about delferriere, I was just thinking that another CH of similar age to Hanlon or older in Chester’s case, maybe comes across as blocking the pathway, I wouldn’t think mcLelleland will be thinking he’ll be a dev squad player for long he was linked to a few top clubs he’s surely got a starting spot eyed up for us, I think we’re maybe good for now if we have Porto Hanlon Rocky with mcLelleland propping it up from dev squad and then Bryson should disaster strike.
I know there’s a risk with Porto leaving if that’s the case I think we need to be looking at a younger player than Chester who can eventually take over from Hanlon and bring the next young guy on

He was superb in the game yesterday, albeit against very poor opposition. If you get the chance to watch the game tomorrow hopefully he will be playing a good proportion of it.

McLelland was also very neat & tidy on the ball but again hard to judge as don't think either of our goalies had a save to make.

[Unseen work]

33 years old?

Are we just completely missing out the 24-32 year old category?🤣

[04Sauzee]

33 years old?

Are we just completely missing out the 24-32 year old category?🤣

From what I can see on line he's meant to be going to Derby. Wonder if the new CB will join up with the squad in Portugal or will wait until we are back home

[SlickShoes]

33 years old?

Are we just completely missing out the 24-32 year old category?🤣

We already have 8 players in that age bracket, plus it's where players are at their most expensive between 24-30, so it's not really shocking we are shopping at either end of that market.

[CockneyRebel]

James Chesters was a more than decent centre half in his day but every single piece of evidence i can find suggests that he is struggling badly these days, presumably due to the knee problems alluded to earlier in this thread.


Same here m8, frightening to think another crock could be coming. We have gambled enough on rehab guys and not won much. Hope he goes to Derby.

[Brightside]

Same here m8, frightening to think another crock could be coming. We have gambled enough on rehab guys and not won much. Hope he goes to Derby.

No suggestion that we are looking at him.

[bingo70]

No suggestion that we are looking at him.

I’m convinced it’ll be Callum Doyle from Man City we sign.

[flash]

No suggestion that we are looking at him.

Somebody did on this forum though that doesn't mean we are of course.

[04Sauzee]

I’m convinced it’ll be Callum Doyle from Man City we sign.

Id be surprised if it was him.
Fantastic player and only 18, 19 in October, played alot of minutes for Sunderland last season and I'd have thought they would try to get him on loan again.

I'd imagine he's highly rated at City and would be a good signing for us. Assuming it would be a loan of course

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m convinced it’ll be Callum Doyle from Man City we sign.

I think he’ll be out of our range. Played most games for Sunderland last year so you’d imagine Man City will want him in the Championship next year.

[bingo70]

I think he’ll be out of our range. Played most games for Sunderland last year so you’d imagine they’ll want him in the Championship next year.

Played less when LJ left and Alex Neil took over though.

Sunderland fans I’ve seen on social media liked him but seen quite a few question whether they’d want him for the championship as he ran out of steam towards the end of the season.

[Smartie]

Doyle wasn't that great at Sunderland last season.

He played a lot of minutes but wasn't really ready to be used that much.

I don't think the loan spell will have done much for him as it was a very difficult situation for a young player to be thrown into.

He's one of those where his pedigree probably outweighs his actual ability.

Not saying he's not going to be a good player in future, but a bit like Nathan Wood I wonder if playing every week in the SPFL is a bit too soon for him?

I've only seen flashing glimpses during the game yesterday but McLelland would seem to me to be nearer being ready for playing regularly for Hibs than Doyle.

[JammyDoidger]

James Chester and Connor Hourihane linked with Derby, I'd definitely take Hourihane.

[Paulie Walnuts]

James Chester and Connor Hourihane linked with Derby, I'd definitely take Hourihane.

Is Hourihane not a bit of a crock these days?

If not then I’d definitely take him for a year or two.

[theonlywayisup]

Another player I'd like us to go for is Callum Doyle, centre half that Johnson signed on loan to Sunderland from Man City, bright future, not sure if they'd rather he tested himself at a higher level though.

Hopefully things work out better compared to the when we got another young defender from Man City on loan, now playing for Newry City.

[CockneyRebel]

No suggestion that we are looking at him.

I realise that and was just giving an opinion on the possibility of us looking. Is that ok?

[JimBHibees]

Hopefully things work out better compared to the when we got another young defender from Man City on loan, now playing for Newry City.

Ryan was good when on loan it was only after he signed a contract it went pear shaped to be fair not the only one around that time though.

[DC_Hibs]

James Chester and Connor Hourihane linked with Derby, I'd definitely take Hourihane.

Pie in the sky. Zero chance. Nada.

[Wilson]

Pie in the sky. Zero chance. Nada.

So.... we'll put that as a maybe?

[04Sauzee]

Brandon Barker in Neil Lennon reunion as ex Hibs and Rangers ace seals Omonia Nicosia transfer

https://t.co/f9H1ZqGuV6 https://t.co/h8mHa2bGXB

[Heisenberg]

Reporter that’s at the pre season camp for the Daily Record saying we want two more signings at the moment. Centre half is the priority.

[Hibbyradge]

I realise that and was just giving an opinion on the possibility of us looking. Is that ok?

Ooft. Maybe a bit touchy there, Cockney? :greengrin

[Aldo]

Reporter that’s at the pre season camp for the Daily Record saying we want two more signings at the moment. Centre half is the priority.

I was hoping for a new signing announcement with the new strip!


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[HoboHarry]

Brandon Barker in Neil Lennon reunion as ex Hibs and Rangers ace seals Omonia Nicosia transfer

https://t.co/f9H1ZqGuV6 https://t.co/h8mHa2bGXB
Great move for him. He'll get quite the sun tan lying crocked on a sunbed. :greengrin

[Allant1981]

Stevie mallan has signed for salford

[hibsforeurope]

Reporter that’s at the pre season camp for the Daily Record saying we want two more signings at the moment. Centre half is the priority.

We’re still short of experience, under 30, at the back, centre mid and we’re a proven striker short

[Stairway 2 7]

Lorenzo Insigne signs for Toronto fc, some signing for them. £250,000 he'll be getting. Just turned 31 so still in his prime along with shaqiri 30 signing for Chicago and bale 32 going to LA, they are splashing the cash

[BSEJVT]

Great move for him. He'll get quite the sun tan lying crocked on a sunbed. :greengrin

With any luck he will be able top over to Turkey for a cheap hair weave and get rid of that horrendous swept over.

Sadly his career looks like it is only going one way, which is a pity as in full flight he was great too watch

[04Sauzee]

Stephen Kelly from Rangers looks like he will be available for transfer. Always liked the look of him. Only 22 and think he will go on to do decent things in the game. Already been at Ayr, Ross County and Salford.

Dont think he will be on our radar but will be interesting to see where he ends up.

[Smartie]

Stephen Kelly from Rangers looks like he will be available for transfer. Always liked the look of him. Only 22 and think he will go on to do decent things in the game. Already been at Ayr, Ross County and Salford.

Dont think he will be on our radar but will be interesting to see where he ends up.

Was he the guy who scored the cracking free kick for the under 21s at (?) Tynecastle?

[Hibee Mac]

Stevie mallan has signed for salfordHope their fans are ready to watch them get walked over in midfield every week.

[04Sauzee]

Was he the guy who scored the cracking free kick for the under 21s at (?) Tynecastle?

Scored a cracking free kick against Denmark bit don't think it was Tynie. Very good player

[BSEJVT]

,

[CockneyRebel]

Ooft. Maybe a bit touchy there, Cockney? :greengrin

I replied to a poster about a rumour and gave an opinion on that rumour - maybe a tad touchy but no need for that point scoring comment. All posters seemed to understand it was just a rumour.

[xqnq1875]

Stephen Kelly from Rangers looks like he will be available for transfer. Always liked the look of him. Only 22 and think he will go on to do decent things in the game. Already been at Ayr, Ross County and Salford.

Dont think he will be on our radar but will be interesting to see where he ends up.

Would happily take him at hibs, been reported a scottish team are eyeing him up just hoping it’s us


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[Unseen work]

Stephen Kelly is 100% someone I would have liked Hibs to sign.

Good young player, loads of potential with his energy and aggression and decent on the ball. Shows great enthusiasm the times I’ve seen him play.

The issue we now have is that

JDH
Magennis
Tait
Campbell
Henderson
Kenneh
Delferriere

Are all 23 or under and play centre mid in some capacity, surely that’s too many for the first team (Delferierre development granted) that can play the same role.

If a new centre mid comes in I’d prefer someone experienced with known and proven.

[bingo70]

Stephen Kelly is 100% someone I would have liked Hibs to sign.

Good young player, loads of potential with his energy and aggression and decent on the ball. Shows great enthusiasm the times I’ve seen him play.

The issue we now have is that

JDH
Magennis
Campbell
Tait
Campbell
Henderson
Kenneh
Delferriere

Are all 23 or under and play centre mid in some capacity, surely that’s too many for the first team (Delferierre development granted) that can play the same role.

If a new centre mid comes in I’d prefer someone experienced with known and proven.

You’ve said Campbell twice, if he’s better than them then fine with me as IMO Campbell shouldn’t be near our first 11. Realistically as well we can’t rely on Magennis to stay fit.

[Unseen work]

You’ve said Campbell twice, if he’s better than them then fine with me as IMO Campbell shouldn’t be near our first 11. Realistically as well we can’t rely on Magennis to stay fit.

You’re right, changed now.

I agree re Campbell and Magennis, but if anything being unable to rely on Magennis only reinforces the point that we need quality in there imo.

[Bridge hibs]

Noticed Charlie Austin recently released by QPR has just joined Brisbane Roar, 32 and a good goals to games ratio in England, sort of player I would have liked at hibs given his experience

[Hibiza]

Stevie mallan has signed for salford

Great , all the best Stevie.

[CapitalGreen]

Stephen Kelly is 100% someone I would have liked Hibs to sign.

Good young player, loads of potential with his energy and aggression and decent on the ball. Shows great enthusiasm the times I’ve seen him play.

The issue we now have is that

JDH
Magennis
Tait
Campbell
Henderson
Kenneh
Delferriere

Are all 23 or under and play centre mid in some capacity, surely that’s too many for the first team (Delferierre development granted) that can play the same role.

If a new centre mid comes in I’d prefer someone experienced with known and proven.

What’s the relevance of them being under 23? McGinn, Fyvie, McGeouch, Allan, Thomson, Brown were all centre mids who were under 23 and, with the exception of McGinn, unproven in the top flight.

[Lago]

What’s the relevance of them being under 23? McGinn, Fyvie, McGeouch, Allan, Thomson, Brown were all centre mids who were under 23 and, with the exception of McGinn, unproven in the top flight.
There seems to be a fixation on age at the moment.

[Smartie]

What’s the relevance of them being under 23? McGinn, Fyvie, McGeouch, Allan, Thomson, Brown were all centre mids who were under 23 and, with the exception of McGinn, unproven in the top flight.

I've not really craved experience as much as others on here.

My favourite Hibs teams have been bursting with youthful energy, with almost a naive fearlessness that actually worked in their favour.

The idea of us having young lads tearing about, getting stuck in and not necessarily having any fear about going to Ibrox or Parkhead sounds great to me.

[brog]

Hope their fans are ready to watch them get walked over in midfield every week.

Just like Scott Allan then? Play Stevie M as a #10 and he'll do well, as would Scotty.

[K-Zazu]

Is bojang injured? Didn’t see him on the team sheet for the friendly

[Eyrie]

Is bojang injured? Didn’t see him on the team sheet for the friendly

His loan only starts on 1 July, which is odd as it would have made sense to have him train and play with his new teammates in Portugal.

[bingo70]

His loan only starts on 1 July, which is odd as it would have made sense to have him train and play with his new teammates in Portugal.

I think we are waiting on a work permit and international clearance being sorted?

[Unseen work]

What’s the relevance of them being under 23? McGinn, Fyvie, McGeouch, Allan, Thomson, Brown were all centre mids who were under 23 and, with the exception of McGinn, unproven in the top flight.

Imo it’s just alot of similar players/ages to be competing for a similar spot. Like I said I’d 100% take him but just think we’ll be very heavy on young players in a similar position.

If the plan is to grow and develop all these young players surely there must be a limit or were blocking their pathway a bit?

I just see him as playing a similar position to JDH, Newell, Kenneh, Campbell, Tait and Delferriere. In fairness it sounds like Tait will go on loan and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Campbell do likewise.

For me though we need a more attacking minded midfielder with quality.

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-lee-johnson-speaks-on-daniel-mackay-and-dylan-tait-futures-as-he-reveals-interest-in-winger-3752183

Mackay and Tait to go out on loan but still in plans.

[ChilliEater]

Is age the new height? Seemed like a few seasons ago people were desperate for us to sign midfielders who were 6'+, now it's players in the 24-28 bracket. I agree to an extent with the thinking behind both, it just seems to escalate into silliness after a while :greengrin

[Nicho87]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-lee-johnson-speaks-on-daniel-mackay-and-dylan-tait-futures-as-he-reveals-interest-in-winger-3752183

Mackay and Tait to go out on loan but still in plans.

What does article say I’m out of my free 5 articles for the week

[bingo70]

What does article say I’m out of my free 5 articles for the week

Tait and Mackay are above development team level but not ready for first team level so they need to find loans. Dunfermline have asked about Mackay but we want him going out on loan at a higher level than that.

[SteveHFC]

What does article say I’m out of my free 5 articles for the week

Evening News expecting people to pay to read their articles :faf:

[Nicho87]

Tait and Mackay are above development team level but not ready for first team level so they need to find loans. Dunfermline have asked about Mackay but we want him going out on loan at a higher level than that.

Cheers bingo

[cameronw-hfc]

Seeing on twitter we've got a deal for a CB and a winger wrapped up. Johnson said in the Q+A supposedly

[JammyDoidger]

Seeing on twitter we've got a deal for a CB and a winger wrapped up. Johnson said in the Q+A supposedly

Gavin Massey easy, Scott Sinclair is a free agent too, think he's left sided though so wouldn't make much sense.

[Unseen work]

Gavin Massey easy, Scott Sinclair is a free agent too, think he's left sided though so wouldn't make much sense.

You heard anything about Massey or just guesswork?

[JammyDoidger]

You heard anything about Massey or just guesswork?

Guesswork mate, fits the profile of someone I'd expect us to be after atm, don't think there will be any more younger boys coming in, so a 29 year old free agent thats played plenty games at English championship and league 1 level, Johnson will know well, right sided, plenty pace, not a gamble, would be a sound signing. Just had a look over free agents one that would be a superb signing is Tom Barkhuizen who's just left Preston, maybe out out range though.

[GloryGlory]

Is bojang injured? Didn’t see him on the team sheet for the friendly

Still tying up the loose ends on his work permit was the last I heard.

[McGruber]

Don't think we need another winger. Need a CM would have thought or striker if Doidge is going

[JammyDoidger]

Don't think we need another winger. Need a CM would gave thought or striker if Doidge is going

If mcgeady gets injured which there's a strong possibility it only leaves us with Jair a young laddie who has never played in Scotland before, youan, bojang and now melkerson looks like he's going to maybe play down the sides, aren't your typical wingers, probably more strikers. Cadden isn't a winger, definitely room for one more sort of proven winger in British football I'd say. Predominantly Right sided.

[McGruber]

If mcgeady gets injured which there's a strong possibility it only leaves us with Jair a young laddie who has never played in Scotland before, youan, bojang and now melkerson looks like he's going to maybe play down the sides, aren't your typical wingers, probably more strikers. Cadden isn't a winger, definitely room for one more sort of proven winger in British football I'd say. Predominantly Right sided.

Good point and you might well be right. I just feel we are even more short elsewhere.
McGeady, Travers, Mitchell (more a wide player than left back) & Cadden (agree not an out and out winger but more winger than right back). Both Youhan and Bojan can play across a front 3. Hoping young Bradley surprised us when he is back - Runar Hague a wide player.

Right back we have Miller, then we are seeing who can play there

Goal scoring midfielder - not sure who is chipping in other than perma injured Magennis (Henderson has goals in the locker, hopefully he steps up)

Captain/leader type CM (could do with one more experienced type with a lot of young boys in there) - though accept we are top heavy with CMs

Central striker - Nisbet injured & Doidge position under scrutiny. Youan, Bojan, Melkerson - all young and maybe a bit raw for the centre focal point (from what I've seen so far with Bojan still to play - potentially all capable of stepping up though)

[Dazzjw1875]

Think the idea with another winger is AM will play more central behind strikers, and kinda makes sense as he's still got eye for a pass and technically prob the best player at the club!

[Aldo]

Think the idea with another winger is AM will play more central behind strikers, and kinda makes sense as he's still got eye for a pass and technically prob the best player at the club!

He’s also got an eye for a goal too from that position!


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[Willis1875]

Think the idea with another winger is AM will play more central behind strikers, and kinda makes sense as he's still got eye for a pass and technically prob the best player at the club!

To me the person that plays behind the strikers will be a player that is expected to drop into a midfield 3 when not in possession,somebody like a Henderson or Magennis.
Mcgeady I think will play wide but have the freedom to come inside and switch with Henderson/Magennis when we in possession

[jacomo]

Brandon Barker in Neil Lennon reunion as ex Hibs and Rangers ace seals Omonia Nicosia transfer

https://t.co/f9H1ZqGuV6 https://t.co/h8mHa2bGXB


Good luck to him. Hope he can stay fit, and light up Cypriot football with his headless scurrying.

[Fergus52]

If mcgeady gets injured which there's a strong possibility it only leaves us with Jair a young laddie who has never played in Scotland before, youan, bojang and now melkerson looks like he's going to maybe play down the sides, aren't your typical wingers, probably more strikers. Cadden isn't a winger, definitely room for one more sort of proven winger in British football I'd say. Predominantly Right sided.

I'm pretty sure Mitchell is being considered as a winger this season, hardly played fullback/wingback for blackpool and was mainly used outwide I think.

Hauge has been looking good this season and would be happy for him to be backup as well.

[J-C]

I'm pretty sure Mitchell is being considered as a winger this season, hardly played fullback/wingback for blackpool and was mainly used outwide I think.

Hauge has been looking good this season and would be happy for him to be backup as well.

Mitchell is listed on the website as a midfielder and plays on either flank but there are question marks over his fitness and repeated injuries. If McGeady gets injured it only leaves Jair and Hauge as the only natural wide men, with Youan and Melkerson able to play wide if needed.

[MWHIBBIES]

Mitchell is listed on the website as a midfielder and plays on either flank but there are question marks over his fitness and repeated injuries. If McGeady gets injured it only leaves Jair and Hauge as the only natural wide men, with Youan and Melkerson able to play wide if needed.

Really not sure about this Melkersen able to play wide theory. Would not be comfortable with that personally.

[JammyDoidger]

We would probably benefit from sending some of these guys out on loan to trim numbers, likes of Delfereirrre, hauge and McClelland would probably reap the benefits from playing regular competitive men's football. That's why I don't agree with the development squad as they aren't even in a league or playing competive football not sure how it helps their development.

[04Sauzee]

We would probably benefit from sending some of these guys out on loan to trim numbers, likes of Delfereirrre, hauge and McClelland would probably reap the benefits from playing regular competitive men's football. That's why I don't agree with the development squad as they aren't even in a league or playing competive football not sure how it helps their development.
They will play development football and if theyborove to be good enough they will supplement what's here already. Hopefully seamlessly fit into our team if there are injuries or suspensions. I quite like the development route we are taking, although the proof is in the pudding.

[Fergus52]

Mitchell is listed on the website as a midfielder and plays on either flank but there are question marks over his fitness and repeated injuries. If McGeady gets injured it only leaves Jair and Hauge as the only natural wide men, with Youan and Melkerson able to play wide if needed.

Yeah that's all true, definitely wouldn't say no to another wide player. If we do have one about to come in I would guess that Youan will be seen primarily as a central striker for us, but it looked on transfermarkt that he'd mainly been playing as a left winger recently.


Really not sure about this Melkersen able to play wide theory. Would not be comfortable with that personally.

I think in some games it could work, especially in an attacking narrow 433.

He didn't look too out of place playing there in the Hartlepool game, and it could be good for his development as well - lots of strikers who ended up as poachers or central target men initially got a lot of game time out wide - Fletcher, Van Persie, Sturridge

[LancsHibs]

Good luck to him. Hope he can stay fit, and light up Cypriot football with his headless scurrying.

‘Headless scurrying’😂 that made me chuckle!

[Mcbizz1998]

We would probably benefit from sending some of these guys out on loan to trim numbers, likes of Delfereirrre, hauge and McClelland would probably reap the benefits from playing regular competitive men's football. That's why I don't agree with the development squad as they aren't even in a league or playing competive football not sure how it helps their development.

I wouldn’t be letting Hauge or Delferriere go anywhere based on the 2 pre-season games. Even McClelland could be very useful considering Hanlon is out for a bit yet.

[Mcbizz1998]

Don't think we need another winger. Need a CM would have thought or striker if Doidge is going

I’m probably wrong but I genuinely don’t think Doidge is going anywhere. I don’t understand why he would be tbh.

[JammyDoidger]

I wouldn’t be letting Hauge or Delferriere go anywhere based on the 2 pre-season games. Even McClelland could be very useful considering Hanlon is out for a bit yet.

We have too many of the same types of players, far too big a squad, if it was me I'd let JDH go over Delferierre but it's not going to happen, there's no point keeping someone about that unlikely to start any matches, we need these guys to get minutes under their belts, Mclelland isn't going to start league games I wouldn't have thought he looks like he needs to fill out a bit to be a centre half, and a centre half is unlikely to come off the bench, a season of men's football would be beneficial.

[chippy]

I wouldn’t be letting Hauge or Delferriere go anywhere based on the 2 pre-season games. Even McClelland could be very useful considering Hanlon is out for a bit yet.
Think they’ll be in the 1st team squad and if not playing every week will get the B team games. Think there will be movement between A and B teams which will be need for high intensity approach

[Hibee Mac]

I'd be surprised if McClelland isn't already seen as being ahead of Rocky in the CB pecking order.

Porto
Hanlon
McClelland
Rocky
Brydon

That's how I see it, and tbh unless McClelland is expected to play a lot this year it highlights the importance of a new CB of Porto/Hanlon's level.

[Hibiza]

I’m probably wrong but I genuinely don’t think Doidge is going anywhere. I don’t understand why he would be tbh.

Because he's simply not good enough. Imho mcb.

[04Sauzee]

Wonder when we will hear anything about this CB

[flash]

Wonder when we will hear anything about this CB

Probably start of next week when they are back.

[MWHIBBIES]

Because he's simply not good enough. Imho mcb.

Doidge on form is our best striker. If he can't refind that fine, but he's absolutely good enough. Proven it before.

[King Cosell]

I'd be surprised if McClelland isn't already seen as being ahead of Rocky in the CB pecking order.

Porto
Hanlon
McClelland
Rocky
Brydon

That's how I see it, and tbh unless McClelland is expected to play a lot this year it highlights the importance of a new CB of Porto/Hanlon's level.

I've got high hopes for McClelland but he hasn't been put under any pressure yet, Joe Newell could have played CB in those two games and looked magnificent.

[andrew70]

I’m convinced it’ll be Callum Doyle from Man City we sign.

Just equalised for the English in the final.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Doidge on form is our best striker. If he can't refind that fine, but he's absolutely good enough. Proven it before.

I think that’s the thing. He’s played a lot of games now since he was last playing like he can. There comes a point where you have to say that he seems to be unable to find that form again at Hibs and if he can’t find it, he’s not good enough.

I’m a massive Doidge fan. But if he starts the season poorly then I think we need to see if we can move him on before the end of the window with a replacement lined up because on the form he showed for the last 7 months of the season, he’s not good enough.