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theonlywayisup
18-08-2022, 06:31 AM
Re the up to four players leaving, possibly on loan, I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed supporters.

IMO, I'd be very surprised if Campbell, Newell and JDH are on LJ's list. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be, just surprised if he's seeking to move them out of the door. Cannot see it being Hanlon either. LJ talks about Hibs being a 'young' team, so getting rid of Hanlon, Newell etc doesn't make sense if we're trying to increase the experience levels across the team. LJ's comments were quoted as being "We are a young side. I think probably the youngest starting 11 in the first two of three games in the SPFL. And that comes with huge potential but, of course, at times you just want that ‘daddy’ or the experience dotting around." To me Doidge could be one, albeit he would come into the 'Hanlon' category of being an experienced player.

When talking about going out on loan, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Melkerson and Tavares - both need to play football and I'm not convinced that they are ready for playing SPFL level football. Probably Tait is the same, although I've been impressed with the little that I've seen.

Obviously, I've little clue what's going on, but it feels a messy situation at the moment, similar to the Butcher statements back in 2014. Why did we continue to pursue young players who've very little game time, when it was pretty obvious to all that we needed some experienced players in the key positions in the team. Now, we're reliant on people leaving before we can get in some new experienced players, if my understanding of the situation is correct.

cameronw-hfc
18-08-2022, 06:39 AM
Re the up to four players leaving, possibly on loan, I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed supporters.

IMO, I'd be very surprised if Campbell, Newell and JDH are on LJ's list. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be, just surprised if he's seeking to move them out of the door. Cannot see it being Hanlon either. LJ talks about Hibs being a 'young' team, so getting rid of Hanlon, Newell etc doesn't make sense if we're trying to increase the experience levels across the team. LJ's comments were quoted as being "We are a young side. I think probably the youngest starting 11 in the first two of three games in the SPFL. And that comes with huge potential but, of course, at times you just want that ‘daddy’ or the experience dotting around." To me Doidge could be one, albeit he would come into the 'Hanlon' category of being an experienced player.

When talking about going out on loan, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Melkerson and Tavares - both need to play football and I'm not convinced that they are ready for playing SPFL level football. Probably Tait is the same, although I've been impressed with the little that I've seen.

Obviously, I've little clue what's going on, but it feels a messy situation at the moment, similar to the Butcher statements back in 2014. Why did we continue to pursue young players who've very little game time, when it was pretty obvious to all that we needed some experienced players in the key positions in the team. Now, we're reliant on people leaving before we can get in some new experienced players, if my understanding of the situation is correct.


I imagine it's not a case of us going out and getting players then realising we need to bring in more, meaning we need to cut some.

I think the club expected to have more outgoing's by now, and because of the lack of players leaving, we need to wait now for a few to do so. Not heard anything, but it seems like there's players there that can go, but just haven't yet for whatever reason. I think as the window closes and clubs get more desperate we may see a few go.

Hibernian Verse
18-08-2022, 06:40 AM
I imagine it's not a case of us going out and getting players then realising we need to bring in more, meaning we need to cut some.

I think the club expected to have more outgoing's by now, and because of the lack of players leaving, we need to wait now for a few to do so. Not heard anything, but it seems like there's players there that can go, but just haven't yet for whatever reason. I think as the window closes and clubs get more desperate we may see a few go.

We may also be waiting for the right older heads, which might mean that the signings will be made late in the window.

cameronw-hfc
18-08-2022, 06:44 AM
We may also be waiting for the right older heads, which might mean that the signings will be made late in the window.

Yup. I think the club have planned ahead, but sometimes if players aren't going/clubs aren't interested there's not a whole lot we can do besides keep trying.


Re you're point, I agree. Younger players are easy to get early on, they're usually the ones most likely to move. Older players are more difficult as some clubs will only be willing to get rid when they're happy with what they have, meaning we might need to wait for other team's first. Transfers are frustrating and there's a lot of clogs I think people forget the club are constantly working on, it's not for the want of trying

Since452
18-08-2022, 07:07 AM
Hearing Griffith’s may be on the way back from Australia to sign for a team not far from us, and it’s defo not us before that starts.

Kelty Hearts or Bonnyrigg?

Billy Whizz
18-08-2022, 07:17 AM
Kelty Hearts or Bonnyrigg?

I’d have thought maybe Livvi, as was training with them

McGruber
18-08-2022, 07:56 AM
Re the up to four players leaving, possibly on loan, I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed supporters.

IMO, I'd be very surprised if Campbell, Newell and JDH are on LJ's list. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be, just surprised if he's seeking to move them out of the door. Cannot see it being Hanlon either. LJ talks about Hibs being a 'young' team, so getting rid of Hanlon, Newell etc doesn't make sense if we're trying to increase the experience levels across the team. LJ's comments were quoted as being "We are a young side. I think probably the youngest starting 11 in the first two of three games in the SPFL. And that comes with huge potential but, of course, at times you just want that ‘daddy’ or the experience dotting around." To me Doidge could be one, albeit he would come into the 'Hanlon' category of being an experienced player.

When talking about going out on loan, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Melkerson and Tavares - both need to play football and I'm not convinced that they are ready for playing SPFL level football. Probably Tait is the same, although I've been impressed with the little that I've seen.

Obviously, I've little clue what's going on, but it feels a messy situation at the moment, similar to the Butcher statements back in 2014. Why did we continue to pursue young players who've very little game time, when it was pretty obvious to all that we needed some experienced players in the key positions in the team. Now, we're reliant on people leaving before we can get in some new experienced players, if my understanding of the situation is correct.

No idea who the 3 or 4 would be, Doidge would be the most obvious if it was an experienced striker coming in.

No chance it being Tavares

If it was at younger player level then Tait and McClelland seem obvious ones for loans

Would definitely be looking for Melkerson to be staying where he is

GreenGray
18-08-2022, 08:50 AM
He's coming home, there's not a chance he signs elsewhere. :hyper

You really are a Leigh Griffiths super fan aren’t you


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NC1875
18-08-2022, 09:07 AM
Player in today/tomorrow. From a guy at work who says it’s a good source apparently.

Hopefully a centre midfielder.

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2022, 09:38 AM
Newell and Doidge need to go. I think it would transform the team and the culture at the club.

Is this based on anything at all? Ridiculous thing to say if not.

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2022, 09:41 AM
Griffiths coming home to play for someone else...

Cummings in Oz..

Scotty in Arbroath....

Yet we can barely score a goal...

Cummings maybe. Allan possibly. Griffith's absolutely not. Washed up weirdo.

Tyler Durden
18-08-2022, 09:47 AM
I watched Snodgrass play for Luton few times last season. I think he's similar to Mulgrew, in that he's easily still got a few years at Scottish Prem level in him. Would be an upgrade on Henderson and possibly Newell too.

Good signing for any non OF team basically.

Unseen work
18-08-2022, 10:38 AM
Player in today/tomorrow. From a guy at work who says it’s a good source apparently.

Hopefully a centre midfielder.

Has he said who or what position?

LJ’s interview yesterday made me think we’re signing McCormick.

chippy
18-08-2022, 10:50 AM
Has he said who or what position?

LJ’s interview yesterday made me think we’re signing McCormick.

Hope do looks a good player

phoenixfire
18-08-2022, 10:53 AM
Has he said who or what position?

LJ’s interview yesterday made me think we’re signing McCormick.

Got that feeling as well when they asked him about mcCormick ,didn't dismiss it did he?

Souter96Mac
18-08-2022, 11:01 AM
I'd be happy with this McCormick, looks a creative goal scoring midfielder - which we need.

xqnq1875
18-08-2022, 11:11 AM
Griffiths coming home to play for someone else...

Cummings in Oz..

Scotty in Arbroath....

Yet we can barely score a goal...

Give it a rest with the griffiths nonsense eh, he’s finished and just brings trouble with him, it’s time to move on


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erin go bragh
18-08-2022, 11:20 AM
Is this based on anything at all? Ridiculous thing to say if not.

Hardly ridiculous imo. Both high earners and not nearly good enough.

stantonhibby
18-08-2022, 11:35 AM
Hardly ridiculous imo. Both high earners and not nearly good enough.

Can't speak for MWH but suspect he means it's ridiculous the bit about them leaving would transform the culture of the club. How would that work then?

Jones28
18-08-2022, 11:38 AM
Is this based on anything at all? Ridiculous thing to say if not.

It’s nonsense. I’d love someone to some up the culture of the club in one sentence.

NC1875
18-08-2022, 11:39 AM
Has he said who or what position?

LJ’s interview yesterday made me think we’re signing McCormick.

Guy at works a Celtic fan, just said his mate who works in football and is pals with McGeady says one coming in at Hibs imminently.

04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 12:39 PM
Celtic closing in on another winger with Mikey Johnston looking likely to go out on loan.

easty
18-08-2022, 01:31 PM
Morgan Gibbs White from Wolves to Forrest for £44.5m!!

Mental money.

Stuart93
18-08-2022, 01:35 PM
Morgan Gibbs White from Wolves to Forrest for £44.5m!!

Mental money.

English football in a nut shell

Basildon Hibs
18-08-2022, 01:40 PM
Is this based on anything at all? Ridiculous thing to say if not.

Aye, they're both pish.

🙂

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2022, 01:55 PM
Hardly ridiculous imo. Both high earners and not nearly good enough.

Doidge in bad form certainly.

Newell our best midfielder. Would love to know what he's not good enough for. The current Hibs side, he certainly is.

Oscar T Grouch
18-08-2022, 02:00 PM
Celtic closing in on another winger with Mikey Johnston looking likely to go out on loan.

Just looked at his contract, he is signed with Celtc until Dec 24! He will be 25 and I doubt he will have many more than the 51 first team appearances he has now by then. The lad looked like a talent and it looks like it will be wasted sitting on or around Celtcs bench. I appreciate he supports the club but he should have been away from Celtc the year after his breakthrough when it was clear he was not going to get regular playing time.

Aldo
18-08-2022, 02:00 PM
Doidge in bad form certainly.

Newell our best midfielder. Would love to know what he's not good enough for. The current Hibs side, he certainly is.

Bad form? Doidge is a shadow of his former self and prior to his injury etc was an integral part of the team! He’s had time to recover but is nowhere near good enough to start and if there was an alternative would struggle to make the bench.

At this time he’s like playing with a man short. Not Moblie and just cannot do the basics.

I’m a big fan but he needs moved on as I cannot see him improving any time soon!


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04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 02:01 PM
Just looked at his contract, he is signed with Celtc until Dec 24! He will be 25 and I doubt he will have many more than the 51 first team appearances he has now by then. The lad looked like a talent and it looks like it will be wasted sitting on or around Celtcs bench. I appreciate he supports the club but he should have been away from Celtc the year after his breakthrough when it was clear he was not going to get regular playing time.
Bizarre Celtic seem keen for him to go on loan, just can't see him breaking through there at all. He will be on a decent wage so couldn't see the likes of Motherwell or Dundee Utd affording his wages that's even if they wanted him, I think he will head south.

JimBHibees
18-08-2022, 02:07 PM
Doidge in bad form certainly.

Newell our best midfielder. Would love to know what he's not good enough for. The current Hibs side, he certainly is.

Newell needs to start showing that then. Can't remember the last decent game he has had.

Oscar T Grouch
18-08-2022, 02:07 PM
Bizarre Celtic seem keen for him to go on loan, just can't see him breaking through there at all. He will be on a decent wage so couldn't see the likes of Motherwell or Dundee Utd affording his wages that's even if they wanted him, I think he will head south.

Yeah it is weird, maybe the coaches at Celtc do see him in the team but given their latest buying strategy it doesn't seem likely, I agree that he will end up down south, the teams up here that could take him probably won't and the ones who will want him won't have the cash to pay his wages so Championship of League one beckons!

Billy Whizz
18-08-2022, 02:14 PM
Yeah it is weird, maybe the coaches at Celtc do see him in the team but given their latest buying strategy it doesn't seem likely, I agree that he will end up down south, the teams up here that could take him probably won't and the ones who will want him won't have the cash to pay his wages so Championship of League one beckons!

Unfortunately not every young player fulfils their potential, and I think he’s one of them

hibeg
18-08-2022, 02:18 PM
Has he said who or what position?

LJ’s interview yesterday made me think we’re signing McCormick.


Haven’t seen the interview, who’s McCormick ?

04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 02:19 PM
Lewis Morgan could be on his way to England with both Huddersfield and Millwall interested according to some news outlets.

bingo70
18-08-2022, 02:20 PM
Haven’t seen the interview, who’s McCormick ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_McCormick_(footballer,_born_1999)

Linked with him in a paper down south.

Hibiza
18-08-2022, 02:21 PM
Doidge in bad form certainly.

Newell our best midfielder. Would love to know what he's not good enough for. The current Hibs side, he certainly is.

He'd love to know ??? his general play is totally inept and should not be playing every game.

04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 02:21 PM
Haven’t seen the interview, who’s McCormick ?

23 year old AFC Wimbledon player who we have been linked with in the press

Brightside
18-08-2022, 02:23 PM
Newell needs to start showing that then. Can't remember the last decent game he has had.

He will probably play out of his skin v Rangers. I always think he is much better against the better teams.

hibeg
18-08-2022, 02:25 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_McCormick_(footballer,_born_1999)

Linked with him in a paper down south.

Cheers

hibeg
18-08-2022, 02:26 PM
23 year old AFC Wimbledon player who we have been linked with in the press


That one passed me by :greengrin

supermcginn
18-08-2022, 02:29 PM
He'd love to know ??? his general play is totally inept and should not be playing every game.

Exactly. His assists and goals record in the league since he's been here is embarrassing. He should have been binned immediately after the red card in the semi.

JimBHibees
18-08-2022, 02:34 PM
He will probably play out of his skin v Rangers. I always think he is much better against the better teams.

Hope he does

BILLYHIBS
18-08-2022, 02:36 PM
He'd love to know ??? his general play is totally inept and should not be playing every game.

Dunno I like the way his hair flops up and down when he runs 🤔

Hibiza
18-08-2022, 02:52 PM
Dunno I like the way his hair flops up and down when he runs 🤔

:top marks

badabing67
18-08-2022, 02:52 PM
Doidge in bad form certainly.

Newell our best midfielder. Would love to know what he's not good enough for. The current Hibs side, he certainly is.

Well saying your asking . I disagree, I don't think Newell is our best midfielder. I think Magennis is a much more effective midfielder when he play's. I also think JDH has got more to offer the side imo. I think Newell is a good player but I do think he lacks pace and tends to slow our game down, he is not a ball carrier and seldom if ever drives forward with the ball. Another issue is he doesn't really get into positions to have attempts at goal often enough. The midfield haven't been pitching in with enough goals. Which has been an issue for a while now.

Hibernian Verse
18-08-2022, 02:52 PM
He'd love to know ??? his general play is totally inept and should not be playing every game.

That's a very general comment. Anything specific about his game that makes him so poor?

erin go bragh
18-08-2022, 02:59 PM
Doidge in bad form certainly.

Newell our best midfielder. Would love to know what he's not good enough for. The current Hibs side, he certainly is.

Our midfield is bereft of goals and assists and Newell is a big part of that problem. Too negative with the ball and just loves to pass the ball backwards . Yes he does have some quality but only shows it once in a while .

Shrekko
18-08-2022, 03:03 PM
his general play is totally inept

Utter nonsense- absolute rubbish.

I can (in some ways) see why some don't fancy Newell as a regular starter, even if I disagree, but it's stuff like this where you realise that a lot of the dislike is just irrational agenda driven crap. People determined to have favourites and villains.

andrew70
18-08-2022, 03:28 PM
Well saying your asking . I disagree, I don't think Newell is our best midfielder. I think Magennis is a much more effective midfielder when he play's. I also think JDH has got more to offer the side imo. I think Newell is a good player but I do think he lacks pace and tends to slow our game down, he is not a ball carrier and seldom if ever drives forward with the ball. Another issue is he doesn't really get into positions to have attempts at goal often enough. The midfield haven't been pitching in with enough goals. Which has been an issue for a while now.

He’s also found a new game of hide and seek behind Kenneh instead of doing his role as an 8. He rarely drives us up the park instead he keeps going backwards, his passing is erratic and slows the game down in attacking phases when constantly shifting to his left foot instead of using his right.

Newell is not a good enough standard to take us to where we need to be.

GreenPJ
18-08-2022, 03:29 PM
23 doesn't sound like the Daddy figure LJ referenced yesterday.

BlackSheep
18-08-2022, 03:49 PM
23 doesn't sound like the Daddy figure LJ referenced yesterday.

Hope that reference was to Snodgrass.

B.H.F.C
18-08-2022, 03:50 PM
Our midfield is bereft of goals and assists and Newell is a big part of that problem. Too negative with the ball and just loves to pass the ball backwards . Yes he does have some quality but only shows it once in a while .

Perfect summary for me.

Ringothedog
18-08-2022, 03:55 PM
23 doesn't sound like the Daddy figure LJ referenced yesterday.

Compared to the majority of the team age 23 is ancient

Hibernian Verse
18-08-2022, 03:56 PM
23 doesn't sound like the Daddy figure LJ referenced yesterday.

Have you ever visited Fife?

Hibiza
18-08-2022, 03:57 PM
That's a very general comment. Anything specific about his game that makes him so poor?

Badabing post just previous says it all .

Unseen work
18-08-2022, 04:01 PM
Our midfield is bereft of goals and assists and Newell is a big part of that problem. Too negative with the ball and just loves to pass the ball backwards . Yes he does have some quality but only shows it once in a while .

I would agree with that about Newell under Ross and Maloney but this season he’s shown a got that forward passes imo.

He’s played some brilliant through balls in the opening 3 games that really should have resulted in goals.

AlbertK86
18-08-2022, 04:01 PM
Too easy to jump on the bandwagon and blame Newell for everything.

I’ll tell you what when he doesn’t play we very rarely have control of the midfield.

Both him and JDH gave us control when played together and missed the fact there was no link player to the attack. When Magennis was there at the beginning of last season many were waxing lyrical about the midfield trio having great balance. We were scoring a few until Magennis got injured and the the negative tactics coupled with his loss and the lack of any penetration up front meant they changed their game.

In my opinion both are valuable to the team and if LJ can get the right blend ahead of them then I believe they can be an asset to the team.

We don’t have this just now but I think once / if we have all of Nisbet, Boyle, Youan and Magennis (or sign someone for his role) ahead of a combination of Kenneh, Newell and JDH we will see what they are capable of.


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Hibs4185
18-08-2022, 04:19 PM
Is this based on anything at all? Ridiculous thing to say if not.

They’ve been here through 4 managers and only Doidge has one good spell. They are on decent contacts you’d imagine and don’t produce the goods often enough.

It looks like we are going with youth and potential and creating a positive environment where players can thrive and flourish leading to a sell on.

These 2 players will never fit into that ethos as they are probably entering the tail end of their careers and have decent enough contacts (reason why Doidge won’t leave on loan).

Not sure if it’s healthy having 2 players who aren’t pulling their weight whilst being some of the highest earners around the place.

And quite frankly I don’t rate Newell at all. The midfield has been the main concern under 4 managers now and he has always been at the heart of it. No coincidence.

JammyDoidger
18-08-2022, 04:21 PM
Player in today/tomorrow. From a guy at work who says it’s a good source apparently.

Hopefully a centre midfielder.

Left Centre half is priority, hopefully a big no nonsence defender, Can create all we want no point doing all the hard work to let in goals like we did at the weekend, need a leader at the back.

Hibbyradge
18-08-2022, 04:23 PM
Left Centre half is priority, hopefully a big no nonsence defender, Can create all we want no point doing all the hard work to let in goals like we did at the weekend, need a leader at the back.

I thought Porto was a leader?

Hibby Kay-Yay
18-08-2022, 04:30 PM
I thought Porto was a leader?

Can’t get much better than Marshall at the back as a leader.

JammyDoidger
18-08-2022, 05:11 PM
I thought Porto was a leader?

Still think we could be doing with a more experienced player beside him that's better quality than Hanlon, he's got all the quality's to be a leader, but he needs to be more streetwise, big season for Porto.

JammyDoidger
18-08-2022, 05:15 PM
Can’t get much better than Marshall at the back as a leader.

I mean someone that's going to dominate strikers, someone who strikers will hate going up against. There's no doubt Marshall is a leader, quality keeper, for me though left centre half is the weakest part of our team.

The Modfather
18-08-2022, 06:48 PM
Too easy to jump on the bandwagon and blame Newell for everything.

I’ll tell you what when he doesn’t play we very rarely have control of the midfield.

Both him and JDH gave us control when played together and missed the fact there was no link player to the attack. When Magennis was there at the beginning of last season many were waxing lyrical about the midfield trio having great balance. We were scoring a few until Magennis got injured and the the negative tactics coupled with his loss and the lack of any penetration up front meant they changed their game.

In my opinion both are valuable to the team and if LJ can get the right blend ahead of them then I believe they can be an asset to the team.

We don’t have this just now but I think once / if we have all of Nisbet, Boyle, Youan and Magennis (or sign someone for his role) ahead of a combination of Kenneh, Newell and JDH we will see what they are capable of.


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We also rarely have control of the midfield when he does play. I don’t think there’s much of a noticeable difference to the midfield from when he does play to when he isn’t in it. That goes for all of them. Whether he’s in it or not the constant is usually that it’s our weakest area of the park.

Maggenis of last season is the only midfielder we’ve had in 3 or 4 seasons where there was a noticeable difference in the midfield. Most of the other midfielders in that time have been shades of meh. Our current midfield is far better on paper than reality.

04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 07:37 PM
Cole Stockton hands in transfer request to try and force a move. Looks like a number of clubs in England are hoping to sign him.

04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 08:02 PM
Gogic could still end up back at St Mirren according to the media.

xqnq1875
18-08-2022, 08:25 PM
Cole Stockton hands in transfer request to try and force a move. Looks like a number of clubs in England are hoping to sign him.

Hope we stay clear of him


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04Sauzee
18-08-2022, 08:27 PM
Hope we stay clear of him


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Don't think Hibs will be looking at him , sure Nixon had us interested in him early on in the window.

Aldo
18-08-2022, 08:29 PM
Don't think Hibs will be looking at him , sure Nixon had us interested in him early on in the window.

Not sure we will see another striker in unless one leaves.


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xqnq1875
18-08-2022, 09:04 PM
Not sure we will see another striker in unless one leaves.


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Can see doidge leaving to be honest can’t imagine Lj has been impressed with him


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scoopyboy
19-08-2022, 12:22 AM
Can see doidge leaving to be honest can’t imagine Lj has been impressed with him


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LJ would love to unload him, problem being Doidge won’t move

Billy Whizz
19-08-2022, 06:20 AM
LJ would love to unload him, problem being Doidge won’t move

What a terrible situation Scoops, can’t help morale

B.H.F.C
19-08-2022, 06:26 AM
LJ would love to unload him, problem being Doidge won’t move

You can see in his performances that he knows he’s not wanted.

Never been his biggest fan but he’s always put in a shift. He’s not putting in that same shift just now as he did in the past.

Some of the crazy contract decisions made last year really are t helping Johnson.

truehibernian
19-08-2022, 06:39 AM
You can see in his performances that he knows he’s not wanted.

Never been his biggest fan but he’s always put in a shift. He’s not putting in that same shift just now as he did in the past.

Some of the crazy contract decisions made last year really are t helping Johnson.

Promote Ethan Laidlaw, put Doidge in the stand until he buckles down. Gets a promising eager to impress youngster in amongst the match day squad and a lazy player where he should be. Might hasten a decision in his own mind to go.

Hibernian Verse
19-08-2022, 06:39 AM
Badabing post just previous says it all .

He doesn't suggest that he's inept whatsoever.

Since452
19-08-2022, 06:40 AM
We have a player who isn't hungry, knows he isn't wanted but content to be at the club in a bit part role because he's on a long contract on better money than he'd get elsewhere in Scotland. Doesn't want to move down south because of his girlfriend. Just a ***** situation. He isn't the same player he was either due to lack of motivation, long Covid or both. Were stuck with him.

Greenio
19-08-2022, 06:45 AM
We have a player who isn't hungry, knows he isn't wanted but content to be at the club in a bit part role because he's on a long contract on better money than he'd get elsewhere in Scotland. Doesn't want to move down south because of his girlfriend. Just a ***** situation. He isn't the same player he was either due to lack of motivation, long Covid or both. Were stuck with him.

Doubt very much he's content.

I'd say the opposite.

And I also don't think it's anything to do with a lack of motivation. He's a professional sportsman, a strikers, scoring goals is probably what he lives for and the fact he's not getting them will be totally ***** for him.

Players lose form. Sometimes for a game, sometimes for months or longer. Who knows the combination of reasons exactly but to say it's down to him and him alone is mental imo

Brightside
19-08-2022, 06:55 AM
Promote Ethan Laidlaw, put Doidge in the stand until he buckles down. Gets a promising eager to impress youngster in amongst the match day squad and a lazy player where he should be. Might hasten a decision in his own mind to go.

Why Ethan?

Bad Habits
19-08-2022, 07:41 AM
Hearts fans saying they’re linked (link being a poster on the terrace) with Görkem Sağlam and some mates think we’re interested too.

I imagine it’s complete nonsense/guesswork but he fits our model/position we need to fill.

Looks wise, he’s as close to a Scott Allan replacement you’ll see.

Spoke to a friend of mine who's Dutch at training last night who is also a Willem II fan, reckons Sağlam is crap! Lets hope he's Hearts bound.

J-C
19-08-2022, 07:44 AM
Yep, let's give a player with a serious injury an extension, was that Ross or Maloney with the great idea.

Forza Fred
19-08-2022, 07:56 AM
He will probably play out of his skin v Rangers. I always think he is much better against the better teams.

Given our league position last year, there weren’t many teams who weren’t better

Hibernian Verse
19-08-2022, 07:56 AM
Yep, let's give a player with a serious injury an extension, was that Ross or Maloney with the great idea.

Signed it in November.

superfurryhibby
19-08-2022, 07:59 AM
Yep, let's give a player with a serious injury an extension, was that Ross or Maloney with the great idea.

I suspect it was neither and that full credit can be attributed to the same people who gave JDH, Campbell and Newell contract extensions.

Billy Whizz
19-08-2022, 08:06 AM
Yep, let's give a player with a serious injury an extension, was that Ross or Maloney with the great idea.

Kensell does the contracts, to protect the clubs assets

B.H.F.C
19-08-2022, 08:19 AM
Doubt very much he's content.

I'd say the opposite.

And I also don't think it's anything to do with a lack of motivation. He's a professional sportsman, a strikers, scoring goals is probably what he lives for and the fact he's not getting them will be totally ***** for him.

Players lose form. Sometimes for a game, sometimes for months or longer. Who knows the combination of reasons exactly but to say it's down to him and him alone is mental imo

Do you really think he’s applying himself in the same way he used to? I certainly don’t. Form can come and go but in some of his appearances you’d hardly even have noticed he’s on the park.

He’s had plenty of minutes and opportunity this season. It is down to him to do more, nobody else.

chippy
19-08-2022, 08:39 AM
Yep, let's give a player with a serious injury an extension, was that Ross or Maloney with the great idea.
Pretty sure it was before Ross was sacked, or the deal had been done then but not announced

offshorehibby
19-08-2022, 08:42 AM
Kensell does the contracts, to protect the clubs assets

Yes, Kensell will do the contracts but he'll not have taken that decision himself it would have been on the managers say so or advice.

Paulie Walnuts
19-08-2022, 08:44 AM
Yep, let's give a player with a serious injury an extension, was that Ross or Maloney with the great idea.

It definitely wasn’t under Maloney, not sure if it was under Ross or if it was between managers.

An absolutely terrible decision from whoever made it, along with the extensions for Campbell, JDH and Newell.

Hibbyradge
19-08-2022, 08:45 AM
We have a player who isn't hungry, knows he isn't wanted but content to be at the club in a bit part role because he's on a long contract on better money than he'd get elsewhere in Scotland. Doesn't want to move down south because of his girlfriend. Just a ***** situation. He isn't the same player he was either due to lack of motivation, long Covid or both. Were stuck with him.

All according to Hibs.net...

Billy Whizz
19-08-2022, 08:51 AM
Yes, Kensell will do the contracts but he'll not have taken that decision himself it would have been on the managers say so or advice.

I can assure on one of the players, this wasn’t the case
The CEO at all times will be working on the best interests of the club. Manager might not want the player, but maybe will extend the contract to protect his value

DC_Hibs
19-08-2022, 08:54 AM
Do you really think he’s applying himself in the same way he used to? I certainly don’t. Form can come and go but in some of his appearances you’d hardly even have noticed he’s on the park.

He’s had plenty of minutes and opportunity this season. It is down to him to do more, nobody else.

You and countless others a month back would likely have been creaming yourselves after his goals against Clyde and proclaiming he was back. Zzzz.

Doidge’s attitude problems and wage thieving will be the next myth adopted by internet Hibs hard of thinking sheep.

B.H.F.C
19-08-2022, 09:00 AM
You and countless others a month back would likely have been creaming yourselves after his goals against Clyde and proclaiming he was back. Zzzz.

Doidge’s attitude problems and wage thieving will be the next myth adopted by internet Hibs hard of thinking sheep.

Na, I definitely wasn’t. What a stupid post.

B.H.F.C
19-08-2022, 09:03 AM
I can assure on one of the players, this wasn’t the case
The CEO at all times will be working on the best interests of the club. Manager might not want the player, but maybe will extend the contract to protect his value

That’s fine if there is value to protect, like in the case of Boyle and Doig.

But some of the contracts dished out last season were lumbering us with under performing players rather than protecting any value.

Johnson is paying the price for those decisions.

Billy Whizz
19-08-2022, 09:07 AM
That’s fine if there is value to protect, like in the case of Boyle and Doig.

But some of the contracts dished out last season were lumbering us with under performing players rather than protecting any value.

Johnson is paying the price for those decisions.

You’re probably right, but you can’t always blame the manager at the time

badabing67
19-08-2022, 09:08 AM
All according to Hibs.net...


Exactly this :agree:

brog
19-08-2022, 09:09 AM
We have a player who isn't hungry, knows he isn't wanted but content to be at the club in a bit part role because he's on a long contract on better money than he'd get elsewhere in Scotland. Doesn't want to move down south because of his girlfriend. Just a ***** situation. He isn't the same player he was either due to lack of motivation, long Covid or both. Were stuck with him.

Just nonsense. I happen to think Doidge is a pretty limited player but I've never doubted his attitude or application. You could see total delight from him when he scored the 3 against Clyde. Let's also get rid of the Hibs Net long covid myth. He had a bad bout of Covid, that's it. His Achilles tendon injury is much more likely to have had a longer lasting effect, that and the fact he returned at least a month early. By all means question his ability, we can all see that, but don't start interpreting his mindset based on guff you read on here.

CapitalGreen
19-08-2022, 09:28 AM
First Team Manager Jack Ross added: “It was important for us to agree a new contract with Christian because we want to keep players like him at the club.”

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/christian-doidge-signs-new-two-year-deal

McGruber
19-08-2022, 09:28 AM
We have a player who isn't hungry, knows he isn't wanted but content to be at the club in a bit part role because he's on a long contract on better money than he'd get elsewhere in Scotland. Doesn't want to move down south because of his girlfriend. Just a ***** situation. He isn't the same player he was either due to lack of motivation, long Covid or both. Were stuck with him.

I don't believe he is unmotivated or not trying for a second. Unfortunately it is just looking like he'll never be back to what he was after injury/covid.

What it does go to show is that after games against Morton, Bonnyrigg, Clyde, Falkirk, St Johnstone, Hearts & Livi our seemigly uninterested rubbish striker is still our top scorer- with less appearances than others

Experienced striker required

SHODAN
19-08-2022, 10:00 AM
Doidge was as good as he'd ever been at the beginning of last season before the injury, and the general consensus was that it was a good move by the club.

No one anticipated the level of regression we've seen post-injury, enough with the revisionism.

04Sauzee
19-08-2022, 10:02 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Alex Gogic signs two-year St Mirren deal as midfielder returns to Paisley | @ScottBurns75

#SMFC

https://t.co/sOzguq1P5b https://t.co/2MirCP2b61

bigwheel
19-08-2022, 10:05 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Alex Gogic signs two-year St Mirren deal as midfielder returns to Paisley | @ScottBurns75

#SMFC

https://t.co/sOzguq1P5b https://t.co/2MirCP2b61

Think he was trying to get home to play wasn’t he ..must have had the right options …still a good pro

Since452
19-08-2022, 10:07 AM
Just nonsense. I happen to think Doidge is a pretty limited player but I've never doubted his attitude or application. You could see total delight from him when he scored the 3 against Clyde. Let's also get rid of the Hibs Net long covid myth. He had a bad bout of Covid, that's it. His Achilles tendon injury is much more likely to have had a longer lasting effect, that and the fact he returned at least a month early. By all means question his ability, we can all see that, but don't start interpreting his mindset based on guff you read on here.

I really don't think he's applying himself. Not from what i've seen.

J-C
19-08-2022, 10:37 AM
First Team Manager Jack Ross added: “It was important for us to agree a new contract with Christian because we want to keep players like him at the club.”

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/christian-doidge-signs-new-two-year-deal

Cheers Jack, how about wait till after his injury to see how he is. JDH a couple of decent games and then an extension, Campbell the same

GreenGray
19-08-2022, 11:55 AM
Cheers Jack, how about wait till after his injury to see how he is. JDH a couple of decent games and then an extension, Campbell the same

Exactly, is it standard to offer injured players new contracts?

We were going through a pish period at the time so any news felt like good news, probably one of the reasons why the club got it done and announced it.


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bingo70
19-08-2022, 11:56 AM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/transfer-news/spfl-transfer-news-live-celtic-24765886

Tyrese Francoise attracting interest from an unnamed Scottish club.

Could be us?

at last 61
19-08-2022, 12:12 PM
I can't see doidge as being unprofessional and don't think it was the injury, there is not a lot of people who know much about long covid, IMHO I would stick my neck out and would say that he has a mild case of long covid, anyway if he is on the pitch we should support him emphasis on Support 💚💚

Heisenberg
19-08-2022, 12:29 PM
Missed this at the time, don’t think it’s been posted on here?

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1558697062027317248?s=21&t=ooMRSZ2GjiqJmJvDuQfIgw

Smartie
19-08-2022, 12:47 PM
Could any perceived drop in work rate from Doidge be down to managerial instruction?

When he was playing up front on his own, I thought Nisbet did himself few favours by dropping deep as much as he did, meaning there was never anyone there to get on the end of some decent crosses that went into the box.

It wouldn't be that unreasonable imo for Johnson to want his central striker to stay up front and wait for the ball to get to him rather than tank about trying to make it all happen himself?

There's certainly not been anything about Doidge during his time at the club that has suggested he has had any sort of an attitude problem, quite the opposite.

He's had a nightmare injury that takes a bit of recovering from. He's also been a streaky player since he joined us, a downturn in form really isn't all that remarkable.

SHODAN
19-08-2022, 12:58 PM
Missed this at the time, don’t think it’s been posted on here?

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1558697062027317248?s=21&t=ooMRSZ2GjiqJmJvDuQfIgw

Looks like we're prepared to pay a lot which is promising.

JimBHibees
19-08-2022, 01:03 PM
Missed this at the time, don’t think it’s been posted on here?

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1558697062027317248?s=21&t=ooMRSZ2GjiqJmJvDuQfIgw

Central midfielder described as all action. Sounds ideal

Alex Trager
19-08-2022, 01:09 PM
Central midfielder described as all action. Sounds ideal

Wonder if he was the guy at the derby

Stuart93
19-08-2022, 01:15 PM
Wonder why he’s unable to move to Scotland

AlbertK86
19-08-2022, 01:15 PM
Doidge was as good as he'd ever been at the beginning of last season before the injury, and the general consensus was that it was a good move by the club.

No one anticipated the level of regression we've seen post-injury, enough with the revisionism.

Well said


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Heisenberg
19-08-2022, 01:21 PM
Wonder why he’s unable to move to Scotland

Saw someone mention health issues with his dad as the reason. Unsure if that Twitter account is reliable right enough but it’s a new rumour.

Unseen work
19-08-2022, 01:21 PM
Missed this at the time, don’t think it’s been posted on here?

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1558697062027317248?s=21&t=ooMRSZ2GjiqJmJvDuQfIgw

Looks almost identical to McCormick in terms of his height, build, stats, position and age so I image it is true.

Interestingly I was doing some research on McCormick, appears that he’s more of an ‘8’ box to box midfielder than an attacking midfielder or ‘10’ which is what I thought.

Looks like he played box to box and they had two younger guys further forward who both had great seasons. Ayoub Assal (19) got 8 goals and 2 assists and is attacking interest from bigger clubs and Jack Rudoni (21) who got 12 goals and 5 assists which earned him a move to Huddersfield.

Playing behind two younger light weight attackers maybe suits where were at as he should fit seamlessly in, but I wouldn’t be expecting a Scott Allan or really skilful creative player, looks like most his assists were from set pieces too.

Craig_HFC
19-08-2022, 01:26 PM
Looks almost identical to McCormick in terms of his height, build, stats, position and age so I image it is true.

Interestingly I was doing some research on McCormick, appears that he’s more of an ‘8’ box to box midfielder than an attacking midfielder or ‘10’ which is what I thought.

Looks like he played box to box and they had two younger guys further forward who both had great seasons. Ayoub Assal (19) got 8 goals and 2 assists and is attacking interest from bigger clubs and Jack Rudoni (21) who got 12 goals and 5 assists which earned him a move to Huddersfield.

Playing behind two younger light weight attackers maybe suits where were at as he should fit seamlessly in, but I wouldn’t be expecting a Scott Allan or really skilful creative player, looks like most his assists were from set pieces too.

That's exactly what we're missing imo; someone who bursts forwards with energy from midfield and gets beyond the forwards to to drive the team up the pitch quicker than we currently do just now.

chippy
19-08-2022, 01:31 PM
That's exactly what we're missing imo; someone who bursts forwards with energy from midfield and gets beyond the forwards to to drive the team up the pitch quicker than we currently do just now.

I’d have both of them

CapitalGreen
19-08-2022, 01:43 PM
Saw someone mention health issues with his dad as the reason. Unsure if that Twitter account is reliable right enough but it’s a new rumour.

His dad seemingly has MND.

Hibby Kay-Yay
19-08-2022, 04:15 PM
I hope people remember that we are trying to get our midfield sorted. Hopefully we get the right player in but these last minute change of minds or obstacles can scupper what looks like a done deal.

Unseen work
19-08-2022, 05:17 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-rangers-celtic-27740370

Forrest Green Rovers want Doidge

“ Hibs could also be open to offers for Demetri Mitchell, while young defender Kyle McClelland could also be available for loan, if the right deal comes up”

Very surprised about Mitchell, thought he’d suit Johnson’s style really well. Unless he’s on a big wage and his injuries are frustrating. He’s recently became a dad though so I don’t know if it’s family reasons.

HendoDelivered
19-08-2022, 05:19 PM
Open to offers for Mitchell

JohnM1875
19-08-2022, 05:19 PM
Open to offers for Mitchell

Big time! Especially hearing LJ talk about him and his versatility etc.

Paulie Walnuts
19-08-2022, 05:24 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-rangers-celtic-27740370

Forrest Green Rovers want Doidge

“ Hibs could also be open to offers for Demetri Mitchell, while young defender Kyle McClelland could also be available for loan, if the right deal comes up”

Very surprised about Mitchell, thought he’d suit Johnson’s style really well. Unless he’s on a big wage and his injuries are frustrating. He’s recently became a dad though so I don’t know if it’s family reasons.

I’d be fine with us letting Mitchell go.

Never fit and when he is, he’s decent but nothing more.

HendoDelivered
19-08-2022, 05:27 PM
I’d be fine with us letting Mitchell go.

Never fit and when he is, he’s decent but nothing more.

This. Was a strange signing.

bingo70
19-08-2022, 05:29 PM
I’d be fine with us letting Mitchell go.

Never fit and when he is, he’s decent but nothing more.

I’m a bit surprised about Mitchell as we rushed him back with a real urgency to get him on the park. If we weren’t fussed about him I’d have thought we’d have phased him in a lot more.

FWIW I think he’s alright, would like to keep him but I don’t care that much and I’d rather have an attacking midfielder that’ll score goals.

Only thing I would say is my boy has met him a few times and he’s been different class with him, couldn’t have been any friendlier or spent more time with him. Think he’s a really decent guy, realise that’s not really relevant but I don’t care, I’m saying it anyway.

Paulie Walnuts
19-08-2022, 05:33 PM
I’m a bit surprised about Mitchell as we rushed him back with a real urgency to get him on the park. If we weren’t fussed about him I’d have thought we’d have phased him in a lot more.

FWIW I think he’s alright, would like to keep him but I don’t care that much and I’d rather have an attacking midfielder that’ll score goals.

Only thing I would say is my boy has met him a few times and he’s been different class with him, couldn’t have been any friendlier or spent more time with him. Think he’s a really decent guy, realise that’s not really relevant but I don’t care, I’m saying it anyway.

I met him over the summer. Really nice guy :agree:

King Cosell
19-08-2022, 05:33 PM
Cole Stockton's handed in a transfer request.

B.H.F.C
19-08-2022, 05:36 PM
I’m a bit surprised about Mitchell as we rushed him back with a real urgency to get him on the park. If we weren’t fussed about him I’d have thought we’d have phased him in a lot more.

FWIW I think he’s alright, would like to keep him but I don’t care that much and I’d rather have an attacking midfielder that’ll score goals.

Only thing I would say is my boy has met him a few times and he’s been different class with him, couldn’t have been any friendlier or spent more time with him. Think he’s a really decent guy, realise that’s not really relevant but I don’t care, I’m saying it anyway.

Maybe we’ve just given up a bit hope with him ending up injured, again, as soon as he came back.

If we could get rid of two who are contributing very little, it’d be good business for us if it allowed us to get one good player in who would contribute.

JammyDoidger
19-08-2022, 05:42 PM
Heard something about Dundee wanting Doidge and Hibs keen on Josh Mulligan. Would make sense from our point of view, young player with bags of potential, hope there's something in it, I'd offer them Mclelland on loan too to get him.

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2022, 05:47 PM
Cheers Jack, how about wait till after his injury to see how he is. JDH a couple of decent games and then an extension, Campbell the same

Yeah, then he could come back, do well and lose him for nothing...

Either one is a risk, daft thing to moan about.

We've lost good players before because we've dithered over new deals.

JimBHibees
19-08-2022, 05:55 PM
Yeah, then he could come back, do well and lose him for nothing...

Either one is a risk, daft thing to moan about.

We've lost good players before because we've dithered over new deals.

Fair point especially in relation to Doidge

Unseen work
19-08-2022, 05:55 PM
Heard something about Dundee wanting Doidge and Hibs keen on Josh Mulligan. Would make sense from our point of view, young player with bags of potential, hope there's something in it, I'd offer them Mclelland on loan too to get him.

Mentioned him the other day and how he fits the profile we go for, can 100% see us trying for him.

Whether he’s what we need age/experience wise in that midfield right now is another question

Heisenberg
19-08-2022, 05:57 PM
Mitchell has barely kicked a ball for us. If we can get someone to take him I’d be happy enough, so injury prone and has been for most of his career.

JammyDoidger
19-08-2022, 06:00 PM
Mentioned him the other day and how he fits the profile we go for, can 100% see us trying for him.

Whether he’s what we need age/experience wise in that midfield right now is another question

Yeah would rather someone a bit more sort of complete, but I think now is the time to get the laddie, especially if they want one of our players, add a sell on and we might not need to give them much cash if any.

Unseen work
19-08-2022, 06:03 PM
Yeah would rather someone a bit more sort of complete, but I think now is the time to get the laddie, especially if they want one of our players, add a sell on and we might not need to give them much cash if any.

Yeah I would agree and is the sort of risk we take signing guys like him, it’s get him now or miss the opportunity to get him altogether.

Would imagine it would all but seal Taits departure.

Money plus Tait on loan might suit them?

Nicho87
19-08-2022, 06:07 PM
Mitchell leaving is a funny one I really see a player there, but he is falling into the Magennis category for me. How many injuries long term do we have to go through together before we say this isn’t really happening.

I’d still take mikey Johnstone though so what do I know

Ronniekirk
19-08-2022, 06:23 PM
I’m a bit surprised about Mitchell as we rushed him back with a real urgency to get him on the park. If we weren’t fussed about him I’d have thought we’d have phased him in a lot more.

FWIW I think he’s alright, would like to keep him but I don’t care that much and I’d rather have an attacking midfielder that’ll score goals.

Only thing I would say is my boy has met him a few times and he’s been different class with him, couldn’t have been any friendlier or spent more time with him. Think he’s a really decent guy, realise that’s not really relevant but I don’t care, I’m saying it anyway.

Scored a few goals as well something we are lacking at present But he has been more injured the played so maybe makes sense to cut our losses if someone will take him Imagine will be on a decent wage as well

BoomtownHibees
19-08-2022, 06:25 PM
Scored a few goals as well something we are lacking at present But he has been more injured the played so maybe makes sense to cut our losses if someone will take him Imagine will be on a decent wage as well

He’s scored 5 goals in his whole career

Unseen work
19-08-2022, 06:27 PM
He’s scored 5 goals in his whole career

In fairness he scored 2 in about 5/6 games for us last season and looked a big threat.

Ronniekirk
19-08-2022, 06:28 PM
He’s scored 5 goals in his whole career

Well he scored a couple for us One on his debut and one v Arbroath in cup Can’t remember if he got a third fir us but maybe itvwas Paul Mcginn who was also capable of scoring

WhileTheChief..
19-08-2022, 06:39 PM
Happy to see Mitchell go, he was never what we needed.

Keep the clear out going.

Bridge hibs
19-08-2022, 06:46 PM
Heard something about Dundee wanting Doidge and Hibs keen on Josh Mulligan. Would make sense from our point of view, young player with bags of potential, hope there's something in it, I'd offer them Mclelland on loan too to get him.Or Tait as he doesnt seem to be in LJs plans

J-C
19-08-2022, 06:47 PM
Mitchell meh, even more meh due to never fit.

Billy Whizz
19-08-2022, 06:49 PM
Mitchell meh, even more meh due to never fit.

Recruitment team knew that when we signed him
It’s just a revolving door at ER just now

WhileTheChief..
19-08-2022, 06:54 PM
^^Agreed, but the good news is that LJ appears to be more in tune with us than the recruitment team!

Tambo
19-08-2022, 07:10 PM
Would prefer a permanent deal if Doidge was to leave, not a loan move back to Forest Green.

Hibees1973
19-08-2022, 07:10 PM
Recruitment team knew that when we signed him
It’s just a revolving door at ER just now

Is there a clear strategy with recruitment at Hibs.

We have signed so many mediocre, injured players that it must be having a destabilising effect on the squad mentality. Seeing players leaving, after being here only a year, having signed 3 year contracts is a joke. Also, there are several development signings that have been punted elsewhere. Do we not have adequate coaches to develop them ourselves.

Guess this is the result of having three different managers in less than a year.

It really does seem a mess.

Squealing pig
19-08-2022, 07:13 PM
Tiffony for thistle looks a player

Torto7
19-08-2022, 07:14 PM
Heard something about Dundee wanting Doidge and Hibs keen on Josh Mulligan. Would make sense from our point of view, young player with bags of potential, hope there's something in it, I'd offer them Mclelland on loan too to get him.

Doidge turned down a move to them a couple of weeks back on loan. I wonder whats changed?

phoenixfire
19-08-2022, 07:16 PM
Would prefer a permanent deal if Doidge was to leave, not a loan move back to Forest Green.

Can't see him going there ! Think he will stay in Scotland just me guessing though!

J-C
19-08-2022, 07:27 PM
Recruitment team knew that when we signed him
It’s just a revolving door at ER just now

far too many injury prone players signed recently, Murphy, Wright, Magennis, McGeady and Mitchell.

Tambo
19-08-2022, 07:28 PM
Can't see him going there ! Think he will stay in Scotland just me guessing though!

Linked an hour ago! Let's see!

SaulGoodman
19-08-2022, 07:41 PM
Tiffony for thistle looks a player

So I said what about we try for Scott Tiffony?

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2022, 07:41 PM
far too many injury prone players signed recently, Murphy, Wright, Magennis, McGeady and Mitchell.

Just the 1238 career games between Mcgeady and Murphy. Injury prone they were not.

Unseen work
19-08-2022, 07:42 PM
Tiffony for thistle looks a player

He’s been brilliant for them, I stuck it on to see how Mackay gets in but tiffoney has stole the show.

Pals with Nisbet and Magennis too

Feed McGraw
19-08-2022, 07:47 PM
So I said what about we try for Scott Tiffony? She said I think I remember the film.

MagicSwirlingShip
19-08-2022, 07:55 PM
He’s been brilliant for them, I stuck it on to see how Mackay gets in but tiffoney has stole the show.

Pals with Nisbet and Magennis too

Out for coffee with Nisbet on a almost daily basis going by Instagram 😂

Iain G
19-08-2022, 07:58 PM
So I said what about we try for Scott Tiffony?

Hope the fans Golightly on him if he signs

JohnM1875
19-08-2022, 08:01 PM
Just the 1238 career games between Mcgeady and Murphy. Injury prone they were not.

They weren't in their younger years, they both are now though. You don't need to be injury prone you're entire career, it can change though and I'd imagine in both cases due to age.

Smartie
19-08-2022, 08:14 PM
I'd be gutted if Mitchell left so soon.

Obviously he hasn't played enough but he's looked good when he has, and he at least deserves a chance to get over his injury and compete for a place.

There comes a point where you write a player off but he's nowhere near there yet imo.

It wouldn't look good on Hibs if we end up moving him on so soon imo.

Since452
19-08-2022, 08:16 PM
I'd be gutted if Mitchell left so soon.

Obviously he hasn't played enough but he's looked good when he has, and he at least deserves a chance to get over his injury and compete for a place.

There comes a point where you write a player off but he's nowhere near there yet imo.

It wouldn't look good on Hibs if we end up moving him on so soon imo.

He was one of the very few shining lights under Maloney. Let's be honest the lad had ability. Injuries have plagued him. If they hadn't he'd be playing at a much higher level.

Iain G
19-08-2022, 08:44 PM
He was one of the very few shining lights under Maloney. Let's be honest the lad had ability. Injuries have plagued him. If they hadn't he'd be playing at a much higher level.

I think we should keep him, there is a player in there and he is quick, can cover a few positions as well for us which allows flexibility to change it in the pitch. Just hope he is over his injuries.

cameronw-hfc
19-08-2022, 08:49 PM
I think we should keep him, there is a player in there and he is quick, can cover a few positions as well for us which allows flexibility to change it in the pitch. Just hope he is over his injuries.

I think he's been criminally unlucky. Missed pre-season, came back playing catch up and inevitably picked up a niggle. Hope we let him gain fitness properly now.

brog
19-08-2022, 08:50 PM
Tiffony for thistle looks a player

I said same last season. Very different but talented.

Big_Franck
19-08-2022, 08:56 PM
They weren't in their younger years, they both are now though. You don't need to be injury prone you're entire career, it can change though and I'd imagine in both cases due to age.

Exactly. One particular poster seems to find that hard to understand for some reason.

With Mitchell I'd get rid. With his injury record we should never have signed him and he's not good enough to make it worthwhile persevering with him. Cut our losses and reinvest in another wide player with pace that is likely to be available most of the time.

brog
19-08-2022, 09:05 PM
Exactly. One particular poster seems to find that hard to understand for some reason.

With Mitchell I'd get rid. With his injury record we should never have signed him and he's not good enough to make it worthwhile persevering with him. Cut our losses and reinvest in another wide player with pace that is likely to be available most of the time.

Willie Ormond and Alex Cropley, 3 broken legs each. Injury prone ******s. Get rid!

Iain G
19-08-2022, 09:26 PM
Exactly. One particular poster seems to find that hard to understand for some reason.

With Mitchell I'd get rid. With his injury record we should never have signed him and he's not good enough to make it worthwhile persevering with him. Cut our losses and reinvest in another wide player with pace that is likely to be available most of the time.

I think he has looked good enough when I have seen him? If we can get him fit he is a good player in our current system

CentreForward
19-08-2022, 09:50 PM
I'd be gutted if Mitchell left so soon.

Obviously he hasn't played enough but he's looked good when he has, and he at least deserves a chance to get over his injury and compete for a place.

There comes a point where you write a player off but he's nowhere near there yet imo.

It wouldn't look good on Hibs if we end up moving him on so soon imo.



Agreed!

IberianHibernian
19-08-2022, 10:49 PM
Whatever the manager or anyone else in the club thinks , Mitchell has a contract so we can`t just " move him on " unless he agrees to accept terms of new club . Also , folk seem to label players as injury prone so want rid of them , assuming presumably that lots of clubs are desperate to sign players with injury prone label .

Crunchie
20-08-2022, 08:32 AM
Forest Green apparently want Doidge back.

superfurryhibby
20-08-2022, 09:04 AM
Whatever the manager or anyone else in the club thinks , Mitchell has a contract so we can`t just " move him on " unless he agrees to accept terms of new club . Also , folk seem to label players as injury prone so want rid of them , assuming presumably that lots of clubs are desperate to sign players with injury prone label .

Yes, there's always a "get rid" or "move them on" type post which seems to completely lack any insight into the meaning of contract. It's basic level understanding stuff, but still some don't get it.

wookie70
20-08-2022, 09:13 AM
I think we should keep him, there is a player in there and he is quick, can cover a few positions as well for us which allows flexibility to change it in the pitch. Just hope he is over his injuries.

A good injured player can still be very useful when fit and Mitchell could well still play a part in this season and seasons to come. I'd rather lose players who are not likely to feature or are not ready. For me that is Doidge and Bojang and possibly Taveres too. Oscar MacIntyre looks a real prospect and good enough to play with adults. If he isn't going to get much game time I'd get him out on loan, the same may apply to another couple of the Dev team like Laidlaw.

500miles
20-08-2022, 09:15 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-rangers-celtic-27740370

Forrest Green Rovers want Doidge

“ Hibs could also be open to offers for Demetri Mitchell, while young defender Kyle McClelland could also be available for loan, if the right deal comes up”

Very surprised about Mitchell, thought he’d suit Johnson’s style really well. Unless he’s on a big wage and his injuries are frustrating. He’s recently became a dad though so I don’t know if it’s family reasons.

Mitchell has spent a lot of time down south, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest for him to go back nearer to his young family.

SChibs
20-08-2022, 10:16 AM
Not sure if he's been mentioned but Robert Snodgrass is a free agent with Motherwell after him. Could he do a job for us for a season or two? Experienced player who could chip in with a few goals. Played at Luton last year and they finished in the playoff places

Hibs90
20-08-2022, 10:18 AM
Not sure if he's been mentioned but Robert Snodgrass is a free agent with Motherwell after him. Could he do a job for us for a season or two? Experienced player who could chip in with a few goals. Played at Luton last year and they finished in the playoff places

He will be on the injury table In no time. No thanks.

SChibs
20-08-2022, 10:34 AM
He will be on the injury table In no time. No thanks.

Will he? Transfermarkt saying he's missed 10 games in the last 3 years due to injury. Not sure how accurate that is but I'd have thought they would have mentioned any big injuries

easty
20-08-2022, 11:07 AM
Yes, there's always a "get rid" or "move them on" type post which seems to completely lack any insight into the meaning of contract. It's basic level understanding stuff, but still some don't get it.

I dinnae think that the people saying these things mean that we should just tell them to pack up their **** and not to turn up again. They’re saying if there’s an opportunity to let them leave to go somewhere else, then we should do that.

If we have an opportunity to remove Mitchell from the squad, that’d be beneficial to us. Magennis too.

I know they have contracts. I’m not saying we should be treating them badly. I’d just be happier if we didn’t have to carry guys, who are likely fairly well paid, but rarely contribute to the team.

The Captain....
20-08-2022, 12:09 PM
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Unseen work
20-08-2022, 03:31 PM
Probably in the minority but I’d prioritise a centre forward ahead of a centre back. Or give Melkersen a good shot through the middle as Youan needs to be on the left for me.

Play Youan on the left and Boyle on the right.

Doidge is miles off it.


Only thing is they might be reluctant as we also have Bojang and Nisbet (albeit injured) and then Tavares who plays wide and could push Youan up.

A centre forward and centre mid would really transform us imo.

Billy Whizz
20-08-2022, 03:34 PM
I think what today shows, is we have the basis of a good team, and we needed to add quality rather than quantity in this window

Torto7
20-08-2022, 03:37 PM
Probably in the minority but I’d prioritise a centre forward ahead of a centre back. Or give Melkersen a good shot through the middle as Youan needs to be on the left for me.

Play Youan on the left and Boyle on the right.

Doidge is miles off it.


Only thing is they might be reluctant as we also have Bojang and Nisbet (albeit injured) and then Tavares who plays wide and could push Youan up.

A centre forward and centre mid would really transform us imo.

I get what you're saying about a CF but I can't imagine the club will be ok with it. We have spent a large amount on attackers, Melkerson I agree should be through the middle but needs to work on his hold up play. I'd like to see a bit more of Bojang he's raw but he's caught my eye in the brief moments he's been on.

supermcginn
20-08-2022, 03:45 PM
Think today signalled the chat about Hanlon last week was true. The managers not a huge fan I expect a replacement to come in this week.

GreenPJ
20-08-2022, 04:15 PM
Think today signalled the chat about Hanlon last week was true. The managers not a huge fan I expect a replacement to come in this week.

Hanlon did nothing wrong before being hooked so am believing it was purely a formation change. Don't think the manager would judge Hanlon purely on first game back after injury and on dry plastic pitch

J-C
20-08-2022, 04:16 PM
I think what today shows, is we have the basis of a good team, and we needed to add quality rather than quantity in this window


My biggest disappointment today and in other games has been Henderson, he looks like he's won a raffle to play for us, like a wee laddie lost in a big man's game. He'd only played 25 senior games before coming here and it really shows, he's not an LJ player so I wonder if he's having 2nd thoughts on him and looking for a replacement already. Henderson needs to start controlling games and creating chances, today he just went around getting frustrated and fouling everyone.

J-C
20-08-2022, 04:18 PM
Hanlon did nothing wrong before being hooked so am believing it was purely a formation change. Don't think the manager would judge Hanlon purely on first game back after injury and on dry plastic pitch


I agree, Paul is just getting back to fitness and hasn't played a lot this season, get away with that with a back 3 but not a 4 as you need to cover more ground.

Real Emerald
20-08-2022, 04:27 PM
My biggest disappointment today and in other games has been Henderson, he looks like he's won a raffle to play for us, like a wee laddie lost in a big man's game. He'd only played 25 senior games before coming here and it really shows, he's not an LJ player so I wonder if he's having 2nd thoughts on him and looking for a replacement already. Henderson needs to start controlling games and creating chances, today he just went around getting frustrated and fouling everyone.

I agree, I thought he would get better and better when he first came but has been disappointing. Was very weak in the tackles today and really needs to impose himself more in games.

supermcginn
20-08-2022, 04:29 PM
Hanlon did nothing wrong before being hooked so am believing it was purely a formation change. Don't think the manager would judge Hanlon purely on first game back after injury and on dry plastic pitch

No other hibs manager in the last 10 years would have subbed him off, he just doesn't rate him. He wants to play a high line and aggressive pressing. Seemingly Ross county have asked about him this week.

Iain G
20-08-2022, 05:43 PM
No other hibs manager in the last 10 years would have subbed him off, he just doesn't rate him. He wants to play a high line and aggressive pressing. Seemingly Ross county have asked about him this week.

It was a choice or Paul, Rocky and Porto to accommodate the he change in shape, you take oft and h player who is just back from a long term injury a.d may not last the full 90...don't see it was any more than common sense

Eyrie
20-08-2022, 05:49 PM
It was a choice or Paul, Rocky and Porto to accommodate the he change in shape, you take oft and h player who is just back from a long term injury a.d may not last the full 90...don't see it was any more than common sense

Correct .

The only interesting part of that decision was playing Bushiri on the left and leaving Porteous on his more natural right. And it worked better than in previous weeks when they were the other way round.

SideBurns
20-08-2022, 06:30 PM
Imo it'd be crazy to let Hanlon go. He was playing superbly well, composed defending until subbed. I didn't understand it but assuming it was for a change of formation; in which case, kudos to LJ for a brave decision at 0-0

Billy Whizz
20-08-2022, 06:31 PM
Imo it'd be crazy to let Hanlon go. He was playing superbly well, composed defending until subbed. I didn't understand it but assuming it was for a change of formation; in which case, kudos to LJ for a brave decision at 0-0

I don’t think he’s going anywhere. He’s the only decent lefty we haven’t central back

Nicho87
20-08-2022, 06:34 PM
Doidge is miles off where LJ wants to take us

Slow, fouls consistently, can’t press.

He is everything LJ is trying to get us away from

His goal return is low.

I’d definitely take any deal to take him of the wage bill and get in someone else.

Tambo
20-08-2022, 06:42 PM
If we can add a ready made quality no 10 then I think that will solve some problems.

We struggle to break teams down through the center and gave done since prime Scott Allan.

LaMotta
20-08-2022, 06:43 PM
My biggest disappointment today and in other games has been Henderson, he looks like he's won a raffle to play for us, like a wee laddie lost in a big man's game. He'd only played 25 senior games before coming here and it really shows, he's not an LJ player so I wonder if he's having 2nd thoughts on him and looking for a replacement already. Henderson needs to start controlling games and creating chances, today he just went around getting frustrated and fouling everyone.

Whilst I agree with your assessment of him , how come it's ok for you to share that view, but if others share a not too dissimilar view about Kenneh then you think we are needlessly having a pop at a player and its not acceptable to you?:whistle:

Unseen work
20-08-2022, 07:02 PM
Doidge is miles off where LJ wants to take us

Slow, fouls consistently, can’t press.

He is everything LJ is trying to get us away from

His goal return is low.

I’d definitely take any deal to take him of the wage bill and get in someone else.

He just offers nothing doesn’t he, absolutely nothing.

Doesn’t win his headers, doesn’t hold it up, doesn’t link play, doesn’t run in behind and doesn’t get or score chances.

I know Stockton was previously linked and I doubt we’d get him now but even he would be a huge upgrade on current Doidge.

I’m awaiting Hibs to bid for Nouble 😅

Iain G
20-08-2022, 07:03 PM
He just offers nothing doesn’t he, absolutely nothing.

Doesn’t win his headers, doesn’t hold it up, doesn’t link play, doesn’t run in behind and doesn’t get or score chances.

I know Stockton was previously linked and I doubt we’d get him now but even he would be a huge upgrade on current Doidge.

I’m awaiting Hibs to bid for Nouble 😅

Apart from his headed assist for Campbell today?

Mikey_1875
20-08-2022, 07:08 PM
Doidge is miles off where LJ wants to take us

Slow, fouls consistently, can’t press.

He is everything LJ is trying to get us away from

His goal return is low.

I’d definitely take any deal to take him of the wage bill and get in someone else.

Agreed. I’d be desperate to get a 6 month loan deal in until Nisbet gets up to speed even if we can’t offload him.

Unseen work
20-08-2022, 07:10 PM
Apart from his headed assist for Campbell today?

A very fair point, I don’t think I realised at the time how good a knock down it was and thought it just ended up at Campbell as opposed to a knock down.

But, I just want so much more from my striker.

LaMotta
20-08-2022, 07:11 PM
Apart from his headed assist for Campbell today?

Very clever assist, as Mikey Stewart just pointed out on Sportscene.

Billy Whizz
20-08-2022, 07:15 PM
A very fair point, I don’t think I realised at the time how good a knock down it was and thought it just ended up at Campbell as opposed to a knock down.

But, I just want so much more from my striker.

I just wish we’d get off our players backs
With Doidge you get a certain sort of player, Maloney and now Johnson’s styles don’t play to his strengths
I still think he’s got something to offer, we were a better side today with him in the side than out

brog
20-08-2022, 07:19 PM
Very clever assist, as Mikey Stewart just pointed out on Sportscene.

It was a good assist but it depends on Josh bending one into the top corner on the half volley with his left foot! :wink: If the roles were reversed I don't think Josh would have an assist to his name now!

xqnq1875
20-08-2022, 07:29 PM
Despite the assist for Campbell I still think doidge was poor again, not going to moan too much but I just want so much more from him and he’s just not delivering at all


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eastmainsmsh
20-08-2022, 07:30 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if Jack Ross tries for Doidge

LaMotta
20-08-2022, 07:30 PM
It was a good assist but it depends on Josh bending one into the top corner on the half volley with his left foot! :wink: If the roles were reversed I don't think Josh would have an assist to his name now!

You've really got it in for Doidge eh?:hilarious

Also, if the roles were reversed, its unlikely Campbell would have found him with the header.:wink:

raeburnhibs
20-08-2022, 07:42 PM
He just offers nothing doesn’t he, absolutely nothing.

Doesn’t win his headers, doesn’t hold it up, doesn’t link play, doesn’t run in behind and doesn’t get or score chances.

I know Stockton was previously linked and I doubt we’d get him now but even he would be a huge upgrade on current Doidge.

I’m awaiting Hibs to bid for Nouble ��
Except his assist for the equaliser obviously right? see someoene has already made this point, should read the whole thread

Nicho87
20-08-2022, 07:46 PM
His first notable contribution since Clyde

Still not enough , sorry

badabing67
20-08-2022, 08:24 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if Jack Ross tries for Doidge

I wouldn't be surprised if Jack Ross doesn't make it to the end of the window

King Cosell
20-08-2022, 08:32 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if Jack Ross tries for Doidge

A swap for Steven Fletcher might benefit both clubs.

Callum_62
20-08-2022, 08:41 PM
A swap for Steven Fletcher might benefit both clubs.Doubt it would really benefit us to be honest

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J-C
20-08-2022, 09:08 PM
Whilst I agree with your assessment of him , how come it's ok for you to share that view, but if others share a not too dissimilar view about Kenneh then you think we are needlessly having a pop at a player and its not acceptable to you?:whistle:


Kenneh didn't play as he wasn't needed in the formation, he's a DM and isn't needed with a back 3, Henderson is an attacking mid and is needed in every game no matter the formation and so far he's been disappointing, Kenneh didn't come on because the midfield 3 were doing well enough. I don't agree with your assessment of Kenneh, he's shown good competitiveness and composure at times but still being young and raw he'll make the odd mistake and unfortunately his mistakes can cause goals against, fortunately we can rest him when his form dips unlike Henderson who has no competition as such for his.

CMac1988
20-08-2022, 09:14 PM
Doidge has been given a good few opportunities lately but hasn't done much, opening himself up to a fair amount of criticism. Managed to get an assist today which was good and picked up a bit the second half as a whole. Not hard mind but there was many players below par in the first half. He needs to be build on that performance. Support was drawn to Doidge initially as whilst he was struggling to score he was working hard for the team.

cameronw-hfc
20-08-2022, 09:41 PM
There's glimpses of Doidge still being there, I think his confidence is shot at the moment. There was a in the second half that 2 seasons ago Doidge would throw his head at and today he half hearted threw a leg up.

I don't think its for the want of trying, I just think his year or so without a league goal will be affecting him a bit more than we realise.

LaMotta
20-08-2022, 10:40 PM
Kenneh didn't play as he wasn't needed in the formation, he's a DM and isn't needed with a back 3, Henderson is an attacking mid and is needed in every game no matter the formation and so far he's been disappointing, Kenneh didn't come on because the midfield 3 were doing well enough. I don't agree with your assessment of Kenneh, he's shown good competitiveness and composure at times but still being young and raw he'll make the odd mistake and unfortunately his mistakes can cause goals against, fortunately we can rest him when his form dips unlike Henderson who has no competition as such for his.

I don't agree with you that a DM can't play when we have a back three. Think Alex McLeish as manager, Sauzee as sweeper with Smith and Fenwick next to him, and Matty Jack as the Ultimate boss of DM's. Countless teams have used a DM when a back three/five is in operation.

And, JDH ( who has played his entire career as a DM for Hibs) came in today to replace Kenneh. There is no doubt Kenneh was dropped, not rested as you put it. I think ( and hope) he will be back up this year based on his early performances. JDH a far better player IMO.

So just to clarify neither of us are needlessly having a go at Hibs players, we are both expressing our opinion.:aok:

davym7062
20-08-2022, 11:17 PM
Doidge is miles off where LJ wants to take us

Slow, fouls consistently, can’t press.

He is everything LJ is trying to get us away from

His goal return is low.

I’d definitely take any deal to take him of the wage bill and get in someone else.

yep

ian cruise
20-08-2022, 11:47 PM
She said I think I remember the film.

🙌 Underrated comment

Since452
21-08-2022, 06:48 AM
Should we still be signing mediocre players from Livingston or only when the beat us?

Dazzjw1875
21-08-2022, 07:02 AM
Think we're really missing an AM playmaker, the more I read about thus guy from Wimbledon think he could be decent addition with his assists and more importany set piece threat which we seriously lack. Also another LCB and think we are in a good place especially with the injuries due to come back.

yerauldda
21-08-2022, 08:55 AM
Think it’s becoming clear as the games go on that the players we have suit a 4-3-3 system, I think that would get the most out of the forward players.

Marshall
Cadden Rocky Porteous Cabraja
JDH Kenneh Newell
Boyle Melkerson Youan

We clearly need more from our midfield in attacking sense and I think that’s what we will target in the remainder of a window.
I also think the system will really suit Nisbet when he returns.

neil7908
21-08-2022, 09:05 AM
Think it’s becoming clear as the games go on that the players we have suit a 4-3-3 system, I think that would get the most out of the forward players.

Marshall
Cadden Rocky Porteous Cabraja
JDH Kenneh Newell
Boyle Melkerson Youan

We clearly need more from our midfield in attacking sense and I think that’s what we will target in the remainder of a window.
I also think the system will really suit Nisbet when he returns.

Not sure on 433. We are getting goals with Boyle and Youan linking up together in central areas. We seem to really struggle to play 433 and create anything when I have seen us this season. Players all feel miles away from each other.

We also lack a centre forward for the role. Doidge isn't up to the job anymore and I don't think either Melkerson or Nisbet are the right kind of player for that role.

And we are far too short of goals and assists from that midfield 3.

Smartie
21-08-2022, 09:32 AM
Think it’s becoming clear as the games go on that the players we have suit a 4-3-3 system, I think that would get the most out of the forward players.

Marshall
Cadden Rocky Porteous Cabraja
JDH Kenneh Newell
Boyle Melkerson Youan

We clearly need more from our midfield in attacking sense and I think that’s what we will target in the remainder of a window.
I also think the system will really suit Nisbet when he returns.

I don’t think it suits our players at all.

We’re a left sided CB, an attacking midfielder and central striker away from doing that system justice.

The peripheral figures suit it, I’ll give you that, and it’s not far off.

04Sauzee
21-08-2022, 09:37 AM
11 days left in the Window, hopefully plug the gaps in the coming days

Leith Green
21-08-2022, 10:43 AM
I don’t think it suits our players at all.

We’re a left sided CB, an attacking midfielder and central striker away from doing that system justice.

The peripheral figures suit it, I’ll give you that, and it’s not far off.



Was thinking the same last night. We have good players but are lacking 3 players right down the spine of our team. If we add those players with experience and decent quality then we will have a really good side imo

BoomtownHibees
21-08-2022, 10:50 AM
Not sure on 433. We are getting goals with Boyle and Youan linking up together in central areas. We seem to really struggle to play 433 and create anything when I have seen us this season. Players all feel miles away from each other.

We also lack a centre forward for the role. Doidge isn't up to the job anymore and I don't think either Melkerson or Nisbet are the right kind of player for that role.

And we are far too short of goals and assists from that midfield 3.

We scored twice yesterday playing a 433

flash
21-08-2022, 10:51 AM
Was thinking the same last night. We have good players but are lacking 3 players right down the spine of our team. If we add those players with experience and decent quality then we will have a really good side imo

Two of them are already here just injured.

MrSmith
21-08-2022, 11:16 AM
For me, Newell has to go! We need a forward thinking midfielder who can control the midfield and pass forward. JDH willing to give a chance but would rather replace him too.

bigwheel
21-08-2022, 11:18 AM
For me, Newell has to go! We need a forward thinking midfielder who can control the midfield and pass forward. JDH willing to give a chance but would rather replace him too.

He was MoM yesterday ..are we so stoked with talent that we can release him ..wild …

neil7908
21-08-2022, 11:25 AM
We scored twice yesterday playing a 433

I'm not sure the formation is a massive factor in a last minute, 25 yard strike against 9 men.

Zambernardi1875
21-08-2022, 11:28 AM
He was MoM yesterday ..are we so stoked with talent that we can release him ..wild …

Who’s chose the MoTM? I’d would’ve gave it to a few others before newell. Actually thought his decision making in the first half was really poor and worse when breaking forward.

Prof. Shaggy
21-08-2022, 11:28 AM
He was MoM yesterday ..are we so stoked with talent that we can release him ..wild …

Relentless, isn't it! It doesn't seem to matter how often this kind of targeting of players is shown not to be helpful or accurate. It just persists.

andrew70
21-08-2022, 11:30 AM
Who’s chose the MoTM? I’d would’ve gave it to a few others before newell. Actually thought his decision making in the first half was really poor and worse when breaking forward.

100% was astounded when that was announced yesterday. He done okay but Campbell, Youan and Porto all ahead of him.

bigwheel
21-08-2022, 11:32 AM
Who’s chose the MoTM? I’d would’ve gave it to a few others before newell. Actually thought his decision making in the first half was really poor and worse when breaking forward.

He was MoM by the match sponsors. And also to those sitting around us yesterday …these are subjective obviously. But he had a good game regardless whether he was top or near the top - the point still stands - we don’t have a squad that would allow us to ship out Newell . He is more than worth his place .

The Modfather
21-08-2022, 11:37 AM
He was MoM yesterday ..are we so stoked with talent that we can release him ..wild …

I’m not sure being MOTM yesterday, or that midfield 3 playing well really changes much. They were all good, second half anyway as that’s all I saw from the game. They are capable of those kind of performances, infrequently, usually in the bigger home games like yesterday.

Credit where it’s due and they all played well. However it’s still a midfield with a low glass ceiling IMO and the area of the park we still need big investment in. If any, or all, have to move on for that to happen then so be it.

Shrekko
21-08-2022, 11:38 AM
100% was astounded when that was announced yesterday. He done okay but Campbell, Youan and Porto all ahead of him.

Yeah, yeah... and I'll bet there would have been an even higher percentage of our super knowledgeable fans who'd have been astounded and most likely aghast if Josh had been announced as MOTM before his goal.

Newell was definitely one of the obvious candidates, although obviously the fact he wasn't scoring goals and setting up assists left, right and centre on top of the rest of his work will probably count against him in many people's eyes.

007
21-08-2022, 11:39 AM
Anyone know who got the Sky Sports MOTM? I saw Josh Campbell getting interviewed afterwards as if it was him but it didn't say so on screen and he didn't get handed any champagne afterwards.

BoomtownHibees
21-08-2022, 11:47 AM
I'm not sure the formation is a massive factor in a last minute, 25 yard strike against 9 men.

What about the 1st goal?

And 25 yards is pushing it a bit 😂

blackpoolhibs
21-08-2022, 11:53 AM
Joe Newell was good yesterday, he played as we all know he can.

Last week, next week, the week after.......

Shrekko
21-08-2022, 11:54 AM
Anyone know who got the Sky Sports MOTM? I saw Josh Campbell getting interviewed afterwards as if it was him but it didn't say so on screen and he didn't get handed any champagne afterwards.

JC did win it- he got a plaque!

B.H.F.C
21-08-2022, 12:00 PM
I’m not sure being MOTM yesterday, or that midfield 3 playing well really changes much. They were all good, second half anyway as that’s all I saw from the game. They are capable of those kind of performances, infrequently, usually in the bigger home games like yesterday.

Credit where it’s due and they all played well. However it’s still a midfield with a low glass ceiling IMO and the area of the park we still need big investment in. If any, or all, have to move on for that to happen then so be it.

I didn’t think the midfield, Campbell aside, played particularly well yesterday. Competed fine but really struggled to get any control in the first half. It was only really when they went down to 9 that we had control of the ball. Had a decent 5-10 minutes around our first goal.

Forwards had to feed of scraps for much of the game and that, IMO, is down to the inability of the midfield to get the ball forward to them. We really, really need a midfielder that can do that for me.

neil7908
21-08-2022, 12:07 PM
What about the 1st goal?

And 25 yards is pushing it a bit 😂

Point still stands. We've not convinced imo under 433 this season. McGeady, Nisbet, other signings etc may help but we are averaging 1.25 goals a game. That needs to improve

raeburnhibs
21-08-2022, 12:10 PM
100% was astounded when that was announced yesterday. He done okay but Campbell, Youan and Porto all ahead of him.

Porto? really, Newell was miles better than Porteous yesterday

BoomtownHibees
21-08-2022, 12:12 PM
Porto? really, Newell was miles better than Porteous yesterday

In what way?

Hibiza
21-08-2022, 12:46 PM
He was MoM yesterday ..are we so stoked with talent that we can release him ..wild …

Newell MOM - who's kidding who ?

Key West
21-08-2022, 12:54 PM
Transfer thread ends up being about Newell.

007
21-08-2022, 12:58 PM
JC did win it- he got a plaque!

👍 Thanks. Much more relevant than the sponsors pick imo.

On a slight tangent, picking the MOTM before the end annoys me no end. Why not wait another few minutes? It's not Man of 95% of the Match.

andrew70
21-08-2022, 01:06 PM
Porto? really, Newell was miles better than Porteous yesterday

No chance. It’s good to be arguing the merits of players who played well though other than the other way about.

Lago
21-08-2022, 01:23 PM
Transfer thread ends up being about Newell.
As usual, even when he plays well, as he did yesterday, some on here just can’t give him a break and let it go, tiresome.

Hibs4185
21-08-2022, 01:49 PM
100% was astounded when that was announced yesterday. He done okay but Campbell, Youan and Porto all ahead of him.

The sponsors must’ve wanted to meet Newell to get some hair care advice or something. No way he was MOTM

flash
21-08-2022, 01:59 PM
The sponsors must’ve wanted to meet Newell to get some hair care advice or something. No way he was MOTM

Pretty surprising you aren't out showcasing your comedy to a packed out fringe venue.
Said nobody ever.

BILLYHIBS
21-08-2022, 02:02 PM
Thought Newell was brilliant yesterday as was Josh

Hopefully both going nowhere

cameronw-hfc
21-08-2022, 02:38 PM
The Newell hate is pathetic on here. Some need to give their head a wobble, every single thread ends up about Newell, even after he got Motm, give it a bloody rest. It's boring now