Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[JamesHFC]

According to somebody in a Hibs Facebook who met Boyle at the Holywood station, the club had received nothing yet. Another member was told on meeting Boyle that his situation in Saudi was complicated.

His club will go from receiving 50 million Saudi Riyal in the top division to receiving 6.5 million Saudi Riyal in the lower division.

[Hibs90]

According to somebody in a Hibs Facebook who met Boyle at the Holywood station, the club had received nothing yet. Another member was told on meeting Boyle that his situation in Saudi was complicated.

The club have received something, whether that be an instalment or two I don’t know

[Greenworld]

Didn't the club say we received the majority of the fee when he was sold. Maloney was talking about spending some of it.Conflicting messages coming out on that front. Ron said it was coming in over 2 or 3 years and that transfers are like that now . You would have to imagine 1 million is paid up front though otherwise it would be stupid.
At a guess hibs have most likely received around half the fee by now so could potentially do a deal using the remainder of the fee.

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[FilipinoHibs]

The club have received something, whether that be an instalment or two I don’t know

Boyle's words according to the fan were: "Hibs had not been paid".

[Since90+2]

According to somebody in a Hibs Facebook who met Boyle at the Holywood station, the club had received nothing yet. Another member was told on meeting Boyle that his situation in Saudi was complicated.

Seems an impeccable source.

[J-C]

Maybe another reason why we didn't spend loads of Boyle's transfer money, wad that we hadn't received very much of it to spend. If the SA club are in financial problems, this could push this transfer through pretty quickly.

[FilipinoHibs]

Seems an impeccable source.

The person gave their name. Was not anonymous. Clearly ties in with tge stories about him coming back. His Saudi team cannot clearly now afford the transfer fee or his wages. They are probably playing hard ball over getting some money from us. Clubs and players have been warned about doing with Saudi teams.

https://fifpro.org/en/supporting-players/conditions-of-employment/player-salary/transfer-warning-to-players-about-seven-countries

[bigwheel]

The person gave their name. Was not anonymous. Clearly ties in with tge stories about him coming back. His Saudi team cannot clearly now afford the transfer fee or his wages. They are probably playing hard ball over getting some money from us. Clubs and players have been warned about doing with Saudi teams.

https://fifpro.org/en/supporting-players/conditions-of-employment/player-salary/transfer-warning-to-players-about-seven-countries

If they are not paying what’s due to Boyle or us, they have little chance of playing hardball ..as they have materially defaulted on the contracts ..

What will be hard though, is getting any clear decisions or agreements ..as there is little motivation for them to get this sorted .

[KeithTheHibby]

Boyle's words according to the fan were: "Hibs had not been paid".

That could mean anything.

[CapitalGreen]

Fans who spoke with a member of staff over in Portugal were told we’d received the first of 4 instalments of £700k.

[Nicho87]

That’s what I don’t understand

If they have failed to pay part of the agreed contract sale

What makes us think they will notify us of any bid for the first refusal part

Hopefully if there is unsettled money on the transfer side we can say something along the lines of forget x amount we’ll take him for pennies

[FilipinoHibs]

That’s what I don’t understand

If they have failed to pay part of the agreed contract sale

What makes us think they will notify us of any bid for the first refusal part

Hopefully if there is unsettled money on the transfer side we can say something along the lines of forget x amount we’ll take him for pennies

In a meeting with another fan when asked how were things going, he said it's complicated. Think that is a good summary of his and Hibs situation on getting him back. Saudi clubs are not noted to play by the rules or honour contracts.

[Tambo]

So this could happen? Don't think you'll get a much better realistic signing than Boyle which no doubt would give the fans a massive lift for the season.

[Hibs90]

Boyle's words according to the fan were: "Hibs had not been paid".

That’s not true and what has been posted on Facebook is nonsense

[Smartie]

I’d be surprised if there’s much room for them to play silly beggars.

Are these contracts not normally pretty watertight, with serious penalties for anyone who chooses to default?

I accept that we have a culture here of playing by the rules and that the same isn’t always true of other places when it comes to paying players, but I would have thought that football authorities would take a dim view of clubs not honouring contracts to pay up for players?

Basically - it’s much more likely that Boyle has been stiffed by them than Hibs, surely?

[JimBHibees]

That’s not true and what has been posted on Facebook is nonsense

Maybe they have been paid some but not what they are due at this time

[FilipinoHibs]

Fans who spoke with a member of staff over in Portugal were told we’d received the first of 4 instalments of £700k.

Another source who claims inside Hibs Knowledge, said they had been paid £800,000 but the Saudi club wanted to half Martin's wages to £15k. Hibs were offering him £8k.

[Hibs90]

Another source who claims inside Hibs Knowledge, said they had been paid £800,000 but the Saudi club wanted to half Martin's wages to £15k. Hibs were offering him £8k.

:faf:

[Hibs90]

Maybe they have been paid some but not what they are due at this time

Possible, but Hibs have definitely had payment

[JimBHibees]

Possible, but Hibs have definitely had payment

I would have thought we would have had an upfront payment of some sort then instalments over a period of time. Just guessing though

[Jones28]

How the **** is all this information getting out?


Is it because nobody actually knows?


Yes that'll be it. :aok:

[Unseen work]

I would have thought we would have had an upfront payment of some sort then instalments over a period of time. Just guessing though

I’m the same, I can’t see Hibs agreeing to sell Boyle without some form of decent upfront payment.

There’s no danger they lose Boyle in January for 3 million total but don’t receive anything upfront.

I would have thought the amount they’d value him they’d want at least one million up front, it was only a two year deal he signed too so they can’t stretch the payments out over that long….they’re not financing a car 🤣

You would think we would have received the next lump sum in June sort of time

[The Captain....]

Sounds quite a complicated situation both for Boyle and Hibs.

I'm not sure how much of a consideration his tax bill would be should he come back now.

Surely, as others have suggested, there would be a clause in the contract should the Saudi club default on the fee payment schedule (if they even have done).

Is Boyle still in Scotland? I've read he doesn't want to go back but not sure if that's just rumour.

I don't like the fact Aberdeen are also sniffing about..would be a very sore one of he ended up there.

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[SteveHFC]

Sounds quite a complicated situation both for Boyle and Hibs.

I'm not sure how much of a consideration his tax bill would be should he come back now.

Surely, as others have suggested, there would be a clause in the contract should the Saudi club default on the fee payment schedule (if they even have done).

Is Boyle still in Scotland? I've read he doesn't want to go back but not sure if that's just rumour.

I don't like the fact Aberdeen are also sniffing about..would be a very sore one of he ended up there.

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When Boyle left

"Hopefully in the future I can return. There’s no club in Scotland I’d rather be at.”

[superfurryhibby]

The club have received something, whether that be an instalment or two I don’t know


That’s not true and what has been posted on Facebook is nonsense


:faf:


Possible, but Hibs have definitely had payment

Enlighten us lesser mortals oh all knowing one.

[Mcbizz1998]

When Boyle left

"Hopefully in the future I can return. There’s no club in Scotland I’d rather be at.”

Exactly.

Not worried about Aberdeen getting him at all. If he is coming to Scotland it’s going to be to Hibs.

[GreenGray]

Sounds messy, don’t think it’ll be a simple transfer like most others. Desperately trying not to get my hopes up but it’s very hard not to.


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[SMAXXA]

How the **** is all this information getting out?


Is it because nobody actually knows?


Yes that'll be it. :aok:

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Sounds messy, don’t think it’ll be a simple transfer like most others. Desperately trying not to get my hopes up but it’s very hard not to.


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Thing is it could be fairly simple because it could just see us accept that we write off the rest of the fee that’s due.

After that it’s down to us and Boyle. If he’s not getting paid anyway he’ll be desperate to get home. Offer him the alleged £10k a week Mueller was on and I’m sure he’d be thrilled.

[Unseen work]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

[Tommy75]

Don’t see any reason why he would want to spread some positive news about us in the week leading up to a derby. It’s just him simply trying to break the news first before others.

My thoughts also. If he was trolling Hibs fans surely he would be saying Boyle to Abeedeen because Hibs won't pay same wages etc

[Callum_62]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

No idea if hes any good but that would be another statement of intent from us on money out alone

[Nicho87]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

I’d rather sign Captain Kirk

All focus should be getting Boyle back until we are told it’s no happening and exhausted all avenues

[CL0762]

Boyle coming back is the new Griffiths/Swanson/Riordan.

I’d rather hear nothing about it then if it happens it happens.

[Coco Bryce]

How the **** is all this information getting out?


Is it because nobody actually knows?


Yes that'll be it. :aok:

Because players talk to their mates/agents etc. It's also the talk of EM at the moment.

[GloryGlory]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

Hibs could offer less and a bigger sell on %. We've done that on a couple of deals recently - e.g. Cabraja, ISTR his former club has a 40% sell on.

[Heisenberg]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

Sure Patrick McPartlin said we don’t have any interest in him last night in one of his stories.

He did - https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-linked-with-winger-charlie-kirk-in-wake-of-lee-johnson-comments-about-aiden-mcgeady-replacement-3789618

[King Cosell]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

Not saying he wouldn't be a good addition, but 500K for a player who couldn't hold down a place in a team that finished 13th in League One seems excessive.

[Hibs90]

Enlighten us lesser mortals oh all knowing one.

Hibs staff telling fans in Portugal that they had received part of the transfer fee. As others have pointed out

[Unseen work]

Sure Patrick McPartlin said we don’t have any interest in him last night in one of his stories.

He did - https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-linked-with-winger-charlie-kirk-in-wake-of-lee-johnson-comments-about-aiden-mcgeady-replacement-3789618

Ah sorry I missed that, cheers!

Trust in Pat!

[Unseen work]

Hibs staff telling fans in Portugal that they had received part of the transfer fee. As others have pointed out

I’m finding it harder and harder to believe everyone connected to Hibs was telling fans everything in Portugal

Close to signing a centre half
Close to signing an attacker
Receiving fee’s for Boyle

Just seems odd for the club to say those things to fans, especially since we’ve not signed that centre half or attacker yet

I’m not doubting you specifically btw so please don’t take offence, it just seems that any rumour comes from something staff told fans in Portugal

[BlackSheep]

I’m finding it harder and harder to believe everyone connected to Hibs was telling fans everything in Portugal

Close to signing a centre half
Close to signing an attacker
Receiving fee’s for Boyle

Just seems odd for the club to say those things to fans, especially since we’ve not signed that centre half or attacker yet

I’m not doubting you specifically btw so please don’t take offence, it just seems that any rumour comes from something staff told fans in Portugal

Key lesson the Hibs staff need to learn is that whatever you tell someone, it'll get out and be touted as gospel.... so dont say a word until its an official press release.

[SlickShoes]

I’m finding it harder and harder to believe everyone connected to Hibs was telling fans everything in Portugal

Close to signing a centre half
Close to signing an attacker
Receiving fee’s for Boyle

Just seems odd for the club to say those things to fans, especially since we’ve not signed that centre half or attacker yet

I’m not doubting you specifically btw so please don’t take offence, it just seems that any rumour comes from something staff told fans in Portugal

What makes you think these things weren't true? this is how it works, some players are close to signing for clubs and never end up anywhere near them.

[1875Sean]

Boyle coming back is the new Griffiths/Swanson/Riordan.

I’d rather hear nothing about it then if it happens it happens.

Who wanted Swanson back? He couldn’t get a game first time around.

[007]

Charlton supposedly want to recoup the 500l the spent on Kirk

If that's all they're after I'll buy them a whole pint. 😀

Seriously though, it seems to be quite common for a club to want to recoup what they spent to be happy to release a player. You'd have to think that's a starting point for negotiation so could be negotiated down to £300k - £400k.

[AugustaHibs]

https://twitter.com/jackmorrison94/status/1554404549758181376?s=21&t=itUWXg_x2ux-yZiElHMBcQ

[CallumLaidlaw]

https://twitter.com/jackmorrison94/status/1554404549758181376?s=21&t=itUWXg_x2ux-yZiElHMBcQ

Will be more likely be for social media video - maybe linked to yesterdays trainspotting video.


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[Aldo]

Will be more likely be for social media video - maybe linked to yesterdays trainspotting video.


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Boooooo!! [emoji12]


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[Percy Vere]

Seems an impeccable source.

Yup
I met a guy outside Tesco in Sunderland. He was saying that his cousin met someone who overheard Boyle chatting to a lad in IKEA. Apparently his contract is quite complex as are the tax and bonus implications. The legal ramifications are indeed onerous, but all that said, he’s coming home, he’s coming home he’s coming, Martins coming home, apparently.

[Percy Vere]

Boyle coming back is the new Griffiths/Swanson/Riordan.

I’d rather hear nothing about it then if it happens it happens.

No it’s not.
Nobody wanted Swanson back (you made that up)
Riordan was never a serious option.
Boyle is different class and the difference is he wants to come back and it would be worth everyone’s time and effort to make it happen.
Bums on seats.
Morale boost
Results boost
European football next season.
This is a win win for player and club.
Really hope it happens

[hibby rae]

No it’s not.
Nobody wanted Swanson back (you made that up)
Riordan was never a serious option.
Boyle is different class and the difference is he wants to come back and it would be worth everyone’s time and effort to make it happen.
Bums on seats.
Morale boost
Results boost
European football next season.
This is a win win for player and club.
Really hope it happens

As an aside, when Riordan came back and came on as a sub in a 2-1 win against Dundee United, that's one of the best atmospheres I've ever seen at Easter Road.

Can just imagine what it would be like if Boyle came back.

[Bostonhibby]

Cristian Doidge - 389 appearances, 145 goals
Curtis Main - 380 appearances, 61 goals

Aye, better by a mileMaybe he lives a mile nearer ER than Christian?

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[badabing67]

Will be more likely be for social media video - maybe linked to yesterdays trainspotting video.


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What Trainspotting Video

[CallumLaidlaw]

What Trainspotting Video

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1554156756414201856?s=21&t=IBxsufeu_t4vhUJD8G-UBA


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[badabing67]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1554156756414201856?s=21&t=IBxsufeu_t4vhUJD8G-UBA


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:aok:

[Lago]

Enlighten us lesser mortals oh all knowing one.
Seems to know everything but it's all nod and a wink stuff.

[MrSmith]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1554156756414201856?s=21&t=IBxsufeu_t4vhUJD8G-UBA


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Excellent :flag:

[chrisski33]

What Trainspotting Video
Slick pr stunt. Hopefully results on park result in more purchases too.

[Ronniekirk]

Not saying he wouldn't be a good addition, but 500K for a player who couldn't hold down a place in a team that finished 13th in League One seems excessive.

And didn’t score Not what we need

[Ronniekirk]

If it’s as complicated as it sounds we can’t put all our eggs in one basket We don’t want to be scrambling around on Transfer deadline day as move for Boylecant get over the line
Sounds like there is a deal to be had though if all parties are willing to compromise here and there
But sounds like he will end up somewhere else if we don’t make it happen

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

If it’s as complicated as it sounds we can’t put all our eggs in one basket We don’t want to be scrambling around on Transfer deadline day as move for Boylecant get over the line

Would certainly be annoying if one our rivals manage to poach him. If we do sign him I wonder if it would result in the number of visitors to The Hibs Club @ Sunnyside up?

[hibbyfraelibby]

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This is dotnet where human is not spoken...you will be assimilated

[WhileTheChief..]

As an aside, when Riordan came back and came on as a sub in a 2-1 win against Dundee United, that's one of the best atmospheres I've ever seen at Easter Road.

Can just imagine what it would be like if Boyle came back.


No different to any other game other than a wee chorus for him when his name is read out?!

I know I'm in the minority here but it's Boyle we're talking about, not Best!!

[AugustaHibs]

No different to any other game other than a wee chorus for him when his name is read out?!

I know I'm in the minority here but it's Boyle we're talking about, not Best!!

Done more for hibs than George best ever did.

[h185forever]

As much as I want Martin back …

He’s not the messiah …he’s a very naughty…….oops wrong story.

Anyhoo….let’s not expect wonders from him …initially

[Tug Wilson]

As much as I want Martin back …

He’s not the messiah …he’s a very naughty…….oops wrong story.

Anyhoo….let’s not expect wonders from him …initially

Understand what you mean.

We relied way too heavily on Boyle when he was here. He was the out ball, the fast winger and the main goalscorer at times. Showed once he left that we were lost without him.

However, I think that he would be coming back to a squad that has injected a bit of pace so will not be the only player having to do these jobs.

He is not coming back after 3+ years away only 5 months or so. Pretty much getting the same player back.

If Hibs can do it then they need to move heaven and earth to make it happen.

[hibby rae]

No different to any other game other than a wee chorus for him when his name is read out?!

I know I'm in the minority here but it's Boyle we're talking about, not Best!!

Woah, you might have to calm down 😂

I think the rest of us might have a different experience

[Ray_]

Done more for hibs than George best ever did.

On the park maybe, but Martin didn't triple the attendance in his first home game, nor did he make the 18:00, UK national news, main headline, on the day he signed for Hibs, nor dominate the front page of London's two Evening newspapers, the Standard & Evening news, on that same day. I saw more about Hibs in the English press, in the two weeks leading up him signing, than the previous 7 years I had spent in the south, prior to that.

He was the greatest player I had ever seen, during my journey from childhood to adult and during that journey if anyone would have told me that he would end up playing for hibs, well, I would have questioned their sanity. Despite all his demons. he was first the world's first, pop idol status, superstar, head and shoulders above any other in the English game and this was during a period their men's team won a major trophy, [their only one].

[CapitalGreen]

On the park maybe, but Martin didn't triple the attendance in his first home game, nor did he make the 18:00, UK national news, main headline, on the day he signed for Hibs, nor dominate the front page of London's two Evening newspapers, the Standard & Evening news, on that same day. I saw more about Hibs in the English press, in the two weeks leading up him signing, than the previous 7 years I had spent in the south, prior to that.

He was the greatest player I had ever seen, during my journey from childhood to adult and during that journey if anyone would have told me that he would end up playing for hibs, well, I would have questioned their sanity. Despite all his demons. he was first the world's first, pop idol status, superstar, head and shoulders above any other in the English game and this was during a period their men's team won a major trophy, [their only one].

I’d take Martin Boyle helping us win the Scottish Cup over all those things you listed that George Best did.

[SlickShoes]

On the park maybe, but Martin didn't triple the attendance in his first home game, nor did he make the 18:00, UK national news, main headline, on the day he signed for Hibs, nor dominate the front page of London's two Evening newspapers, the Standard & Evening news, on that same day. I saw more about Hibs in the English press, in the two weeks leading up him signing, than the previous 7 years I had spent in the south, prior to that.

He was the greatest player I had ever seen, during my journey from childhood to adult and during that journey if anyone would have told me that he would end up playing for hibs, well, I would have questioned their sanity. Despite all his demons. he was first the world's first, pop idol status, superstar, head and shoulders above any other in the English game and this was during a period their men's team won a major trophy, [their only one].

Boyle scored a penalty that sent us to the Scottish Cup Final which we then won for the first time in 114 years.

[SHODAN]

Boyle scored a penalty that sent us to the Scottish Cup Final which we then won for the first time in 114 years.

:agree:

George Best is someone else's legend. He isn't ours.

[Lago]

:agree:

George Best is someone else's legend. He isn't ours.
We're you there on his Hibs debut, it was fantastic

[SaulGoodman]

Only Hibs.net could turn into Martin Boyle vs George Best.

[Since90+2]

:agree:

George Best is someone else's legend. He isn't ours.

Agreed.

[WhileTheChief..]

:agree:

George Best is someone else's legend. He isn't ours.

Yeah I was talking about the impact on the crowd at ER, not the impact they had on the pitch.

I kinda thought that was obvious based on the thread!

Best put thousands on our gate. No chance Boyle would do anything close.

[WhileTheChief..]

Woah, you might have to calm down 😂

I think the rest of us might have a different experience

Eh? You've lost me. Calm down? From what?

No idea what you mean with your last sentence? What do think might happen at ER on Martin's returning debut? What am I missing?

[Ray_]

Boyle scored a penalty that sent us to the Scottish Cup Final which we then won for the first time in 114 years.

Did you miss the bit 'on the park', it was the first three words and was kinda key to the message!

[weecounty hibby]

Imaging Boyler and Bestie out on the lash after the Scottish cup win!!!! Throw in the French national rugby team and a couple of miss worlds for full effect!!!!!

[Northernhibee]

Only Hibs.net could turn into Martin Boyle vs George Best.

For partying it’s a close run thing.

[hibby rae]

Eh? You've lost me. Calm down? From what?

No idea what you mean with your last sentence? What do think might happen at ER on Martin's returning debut? What am I missing?

It was sarcasm, hence the emoji. Calm down 😂😉😉

[hibby rae]

Yeah I was talking about the impact on the crowd at ER, not the impact they had on the pitch.

I kinda thought that was obvious based on the thread!

Best put thousands on our gate. No chance Boyle would do anything close.

I would wager a lot of the money from the gate went straight into the till at the Jingling Geordie.

Bigger crowds for a short period of time is pretty meaningless in the scheme of things.

[RIP Bestie]

on the park maybe, but martin didn't triple the attendance in his first home game, nor did he make the 18:00, uk national news, main headline, on the day he signed for hibs, nor dominate the front page of london's two evening newspapers, the standard & evening news, on that same day. I saw more about hibs in the english press, in the two weeks leading up him signing, than the previous 7 years i had spent in the south, prior to that.

He was the greatest player i had ever seen, during my journey from childhood to adult and during that journey if anyone would have told me that he would end up playing for hibs, well, i would have questioned their sanity. Despite all his demons. He was first the world's first, pop idol status, superstar, head and shoulders above any other in the english game and this was during a period their men's team won a major trophy, [their only one].

this

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Done more for hibs than George best ever did.

Very much so. 🖒

[Ray_]

I would wager a lot of the money from the gate went straight into the till at the Jingling Geordie.

Bigger crowds for a short period of time is pretty meaningless in the scheme of things.

Tom Hart, personally paid his wages, so it didn't come from gate receipts.

[WhileTheChief..]

I would wager a lot of the money from the gate went straight into the till at the Jingling Geordie.

Bigger crowds for a short period of time is pretty meaningless in the scheme of things.

Cool. I think you've missed the point though.

I'm suggesting that there will be little or no impact on the gates at ER if Boyle returns whereas, when Best turned up the whole of the UK sat up and took notice.

[Stuart93]

Is it nonsense to suggest that bringing Boyle back could see us finish 3rd this season? Cause I’m feeling it

[hibby rae]

Cool. I think you've missed the point though.

I'm suggesting that there will be little or no impact on the gates at ER if Boyle returns whereas, when Best turned up the whole of the UK sat up and took notice.

No I understood that, but whatever gain came from Best joining Hibs was short-term, did results even pick up? So Boyle did far more for Hibs than Best ever did all things considered.

But I would also disagree and say it would have an impact on attendances, I'd imagine season tickets would benefit as a result. Now it might not be the same bums on seats wise, but it may well be just as much in £, when you take into account ticket prices are more than they used to be.

I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.

Especially when you factor in the developments in the ways information is shared globally compared to then and now, the potential audience is far greater.

[worcesterhibby]

Imaging Boyler and Bestie out on the lash after the Scottish cup win!!!! Throw in the French national rugby team and a couple of miss worlds for full effect!!!!!

I believe it was Debbie Harry he was drinking with in the North British with the French Rugby team (which is WAAAAYYY cooler than any Miss World) but I take your point :greengrin

[Brightside]

Cool. I think you've missed the point though.

I'm suggesting that there will be little or no impact on the gates at ER if Boyle returns whereas, when Best turned up the whole of the UK sat up and took notice.

I think we would sell another 1000 STs

[IberianHibernian]

Is it nonsense to suggest that bringing Boyle back could see us finish 3rd this season? Cause I’m feeling itWere we not about 8th when he left ? And that was before Nisbet got injured . But yes , if fit and able to gel into team he could certainly help us to fight for 3rd . We don`t know how much his signing would cost us and what plans if any club had to make other signings with that money ( am aware it`s not quite as simple as that if his present club havent paid etc ) .

[Ray_]

No I understood that, but whatever gain came from Best joining Hibs was short-term, did results even pick up? So Boyle did far more for Hibs than Best ever did all things considered.

But I would also disagree and say it would have an impact on attendances, I'd imagine season tickets would benefit as a result. Now it might not be the same bums on seats wise, but it may well be just as much in £, when you take into account ticket prices are more than they used to be.

I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.

Especially when you factor in the developments in the ways information is shared globally compared to then and now, the potential audience is far greater.

Short-term :greengrin Oh, the irony, here we are, 43 years later, talking about one of the world's greatest players, from any generation, playing for our club.

[CL0762]

No it’s not.
Nobody wanted Swanson back (you made that up)
Riordan was never a serious option.
Boyle is different class and the difference is he wants to come back and it would be worth everyone’s time and effort to make it happen.
Bums on seats.
Morale boost
Results boost
European football next season.
This is a win win for player and club.
Really hope it happens

We were linked with Swanson every window before he actually signed yes or no?

So no I haven’t made it up.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Were we not about 8th when he left ? And that was before Nisbet got injured . But yes , if fit and able to gel into team he could certainly help us to fight for 3rd . We don`t know how much his signing would cost us and what plans if any club had to make other signings with that money ( am aware it`s not quite as simple as that if his present club havent paid etc ) .

We were 7th when we left but he was the sole reason we were that high.

I’d go as far to say that without the half a season we got from Boyle we could well have been relegated.

He’s not a guarantee of top 3 but he’s a guarantee of being higher than we would without him imo.

[Billy Whizz]

We were 7th when we left but he was the sole reason we were that high.

I’d go as far to say that without the half a season we got from Boyle we could well have been relegated.

He’s not a guarantee of top 3 but he’s a guarantee of being higher than we would without him imo.

He runs at players and gets brought down. Think we’ve only had one or so penalties since he left

[hibby rae]

Short-term :greengrin Oh, the irony, here we are, 43 years later, talking about one of the world's greatest players, from any generation, playing for our club.

Aside from Hibs supporters remembering he played for us, what other long term benefits were there?

[04Sauzee]

One or the Red tops reporting that Dundee Utd have beaten Aberdeen to the signing of Jamie McGrath. Not sure if it's a loan or permanent.

[Ray_]

Aside from Hibs supporters remembering he played for us, what other long term benefits were there?

'I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.' Incidentally, Mark Caughey, went to the 86 WC with N Ireland, so much for that one :greengrin

[Stuart93]

One or the Red tops reporting that Dundee Utd have beaten Aberdeen to the signing of Jamie McGrath. Not sure if it's a loan or permanent.

They’ll have some midfield

[Since452]

One or the Red tops reporting that Dundee Utd have beaten Aberdeen to the signing of Jamie McGrath. Not sure if it's a loan or permanent.

Jack Ross certainly a big fan. I'm not convinced. Only really seen him against us though.

[JohnM1875]

One or the Red tops reporting that Dundee Utd have beaten Aberdeen to the signing of Jamie McGrath. Not sure if it's a loan or permanent.

Surely be a loan? He just joined Wigan in January. Be a good signing though that. Would definitely have taken him for us.

[aberhibsfc]

We were 7th when we left but he was the sole reason we were that high.

I’d go as far to say that without the half a season we got from Boyle we could well have been relegated.

He’s not a guarantee of top 3 but he’s a guarantee of being higher than we would without him imo.

Agree 👍

[Hibs90]

Is it nonsense to suggest that bringing Boyle back could see us finish 3rd this season? Cause I’m feeling it

You been on the happy juice? :greengrin

[hibby rae]

'I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.' Incidentally, Mark Caughey, went to the 86 WC with N Ireland, so much for that one :greengrin

Can't help but notice you're only referencing half of what I said to suit your argument.

You missed out the part where I state in it's the context of the modern day and how the sharing of information has changed globally, which potentially provides a greater audience.

[Hibiza]

[QUOTE=Ray_;7050320]'I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.' Incidentally, Mark Caughey, went to the 86 WC with N Ireland, so much for that one :greengrin[/QUOTE
The Story was that Kenny Waugh signed the wrong player, allegedly got his name mixed up.

[bigwheel]

[QUOTE=Ray_;7050320]'I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.' Incidentally, Mark Caughey, went to the 86 WC with N Ireland, so much for that one :greengrin[/QUOTE
The Story was that Kenny Waugh signed the wrong player, allegedly got his name mixed up.

Yep. Tried to sign Doidge, came back with Curtis Main ….

[Unseen work]

Jamie McGrath had made a fair mess of the last 12 months of his career.

Think he’s a really good player though and one id take here in a minute, United are getting a good player.

Him and Levitt are two really good options but I’m not sure how them two fit together in a Jack Ross midfield.

[Ray_]

Can't help but notice you're only referencing half of what I said to suit your argument.

You missed out the part where I state in it's the context of the modern day and how the sharing of information has changed globally, which potentially provides a greater audience.

WC's had worldwide audiences back in 1986 and they didn't have PPV TV interfering anywhere near as much with audiences as they do today, look at the viewing figures back then!

[Hibernian Verse]

Jamie McGrath had made a fair mess of the last 12 months of his career.

Think he’s a really good player though and one id take here in a minute, United are getting a good player.

Him and Levitt are two really good options but I’m not sure how them two fit together in a Jack Ross midfield.

Wouldn’t be like Jack Ross to fill a midfield with similar players

[Billy Whizz]

Wouldn’t be like Jack Ross to fill a midfield with similar players

And get 3rd place and a few cup semi finals

[Hibiza]

[QUOTE=Hibiza;7050356]

Yep. Tried to sign Doidge, came back with Curtis Main ….
:top marks, nice one,:not worth:not worth, perhaps a wee slip up on my behalf , although I do like the player.

[Stuart93]

You been on the happy juice? :greengrin

Would be a massive signing for us if he returned and back into a better squad imo

[bigwheel]

[QUOTE=bigwheel;7050358]
:top marks, nice one,:not worth:not worth, perhaps a wee slip up on my behalf , although I do like the player.

[emoji12][emoji106][emoji106]. Fair play

[hibby rae]

WC's had worldwide audiences back in 1986 and they didn't have PPV TV interfering anywhere near as much with audiences as they do today, look at the viewing figures back then!

PPV has no bearing on a WC then or now. They also didn't have the internet or social media, which is what I was talking about when discussing the developments in sharing information on a global scale.

[greenlex]

No I understood that, but whatever gain came from Best joining Hibs was short-term, did results even pick up? So Boyle did far more for Hibs than Best ever did all things considered.

But I would also disagree and say it would have an impact on attendances, I'd imagine season tickets would benefit as a result. Now it might not be the same bums on seats wise, but it may well be just as much in £, when you take into account ticket prices are more than they used to be.

I'd add that having a player playing at WC does just as much for exposure for the club than Best's signing had as well.

Especially when you factor in the developments in the ways information is shared globally compared to then and now, the potential audience is far greater.
We got relegated.

[Ray_]

PPV has no bearing on a WC then or now. They also didn't have the internet or social media, which is what I was talking about when discussing the developments in sharing information on a global scale.

As much as I like Martin Boyle and despite your social media and sharing of information, George Best playing for Hibs made much more of a worldwide, global impact than Martin Boyle playing for Hibs, no matter how much you want to say otherwise. On the pitch, his bits of magic were still there to see, not the same when I saw him guest for Rangers/Celtic in the select game against Scotland, for the Ibrox disaster fund, or the time he almost singlehandedly beat Scotland, while playing for NI, or the other performance I had the privilege of watching star for Man U or Fulham. There was moments for Hibs, like when he made all of Ally McLeod's three goals against Jock Wallace's Leicester and particularly his performance in our 0-5 Scottish cup semi loss against Celtic, when he was named MOM in the papers the next day, you have to be extra special to achieve that.

[hibby rae]

As much as I like Martin Boyle and despite your social media and sharing of information, George Best playing for Hibs made much more of a worldwide, global impact than Martin Boyle playing for Hibs, no matter how much you want to say otherwise. On the pitch, his bits of magic were still there to see, not the same when I saw him guest for Rangers/Celtic in the select game against Scotland, for the Ibrox disaster fund, or the time he almost singlehandedly beat Scotland, while playing for NI, or the other performance I had the privilege of watching star for Man U or Fulham. There was moments for Hibs, like when he made all of Ally McLeod's three goals against Jock Wallace's Leicester and particularly his performance in our 0-5 Scottish cup semi loss against Celtic, when he was named MOM in the papers the next day, you have to be extra special to achieve that.

I feel you're misunderstanding this every time, I didn't say Boyle playing for Hibs did have a global impact, I said the exposure for Hibs having a player at the WC would potentially be greater than when Best signed for Hibs, and yes, things like social media do make a difference.

Most people outside of Hibs supporter's don't know Best played for us, my pal didn't until I told him and he's supported Man U all his life. Best signing for just one of many clubs after Man U didn't have the impact you might remember it having.

The main points to take away are Best did very little for Hibs on the pitch, only played 22 games and the club was relegated. Boyle did more, and if he signed again he would add to that. Off the pitch, attendances went up for a while after Best signed, and Hibs fans who saw him can they saw him, but other than that, nothing much more was achieved.

[HibeeSS0762]

Lot of fans on Twitter talking about boyle done deal. Anybody know anything about it or purely guesswork?

[Borderhibbie76]

Lot of fans on Twitter talking about boyle done deal. Anybody know anything about it or purely guesswork?

I think it's s just guess work but hopefully its true

[Tommy75]

I feel you're misunderstanding this every time, I didn't say Boyle playing for Hibs did have a global impact, I said the exposure for Hibs having a player at the WC would potentially be greater than when Best signed for Hibs, and yes, things like social media do make a difference.

Most people outside of Hibs supporter's don't know Best played for us, my pal didn't until I told him and he's supported Man U all his life. Best signing for just one of many clubs after Man U didn't have the impact you might remember it having.

The main points to take away are Best did very little for Hibs on the pitch, only played 22 games and the club was relegated. Boyle did more, and if he signed again he would add to that. Off the pitch, attendances went up for a while after Best signed, and Hibs fans who saw him can they saw him, but other than that, nothing much more was achieved.

There are 32 teams going to the world cup, thats 100s of players, I don't think many people outwith Hibs or Aus are going to care that an Australian (hopefully from our perspective) plays for Hibs tbh.

[tonyrougier123]

Lot of fans on Twitter talking about boyle done deal. Anybody know anything about it or purely guesswork?

Would think it’s wishful thinking on our behalf.
But I’ve seen the stuff on Twitter as well.,maybe not without possibility.

[HibeeSS0762]

I think it's s just guess work but hopefully its true

Was thinking that myself but surely not all 20 odd posters Iv seen talking about a done deal. Maybe I’m reading too much into it.

[BlackSheep]

The irony could be that every ‘ITK’ post’s source could be another ‘ITK’ post on here or twitter…. All just spreading the same rumour round and round!

I hope not!

[King Cosell]

I feel you're misunderstanding this every time, I didn't say Boyle playing for Hibs did have a global impact, I said the exposure for Hibs having a player at the WC would potentially be greater than when Best signed for Hibs, and yes, things like social media do make a difference.

Most people outside of Hibs supporter's don't know Best played for us, my pal didn't until I told him and he's supported Man U all his life. Best signing for just one of many clubs after Man U didn't have the impact you might remember it having.

The main points to take away are Best did very little for Hibs on the pitch, only played 22 games and the club was relegated. Boyle did more, and if he signed again he would add to that. Off the pitch, attendances went up for a while after Best signed, and Hibs fans who saw him can they saw him, but other than that, nothing much more was achieved.

I remember Sol Bamba playing in the World Cup in 2010, in a tasty Ivory Coast side, big deal for Hibs but I don't think anyone else was arsed.

[SMAXXA]

Lot of fans on Twitter talking about boyle done deal. Anybody know anything about it or purely guesswork?

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

[SteveHFC]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

:hyper

[SaulGoodman]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

Don’t let me down Smaxxa 😂

[Vault Boy]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

Crying, screaming, throwing up

[neil7908]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

Where's the Daffy GIF!?

[007]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

In time for Sunday?
(Even if he isn't match fit we could stick him on the bench and get them wondering).

[7Hero]

If hibs haven't been paid the dosh then their are negotiations to be done... Maybe he is coming back..

[Stuart93]

In time for Sunday?
(Even if he isn't match fit we could stick him on the bench and get them wondering).

I reckon he’d be fit enough for 30mins. 😍

[HoboHarry]

In time for Sunday?
(Even if he isn't match fit we could stick him on the bench and get them wondering).

Wouldn't there need to be international clearance sorted out first?

[Hermit Crab]

Wouldn't there need to be international clearance sorted out first?


Wouldn't think so, he's a British citizen with a British passport i'd assume.

[HoboHarry]

Wouldn't think so, he's a British citizen with a British passport i'd assume.


i dont mean nationality wise, i mean signing from a foreign club.....

[matty_f]

i dont mean nationality wise, i mean signing from a foreign club.....

There would be

[HibeeSS0762]

The cat posting on Twitter as if it’s done. If there’s one source I trust it’s his.

[SaulGoodman]

The cat posting on Twitter as if it’s done. If there’s one source I trust it’s his.

Suddenly I’m less hopeful

[phoenixfire]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

Hope so ! What a signing it would be to get Boyle back:greengrin

[McGruber]

I rubbished the Boyle coming back now brigade. Thought maybe in a couple years but not now. Still doubtful it'll happen but excited at the possibility. My doubt is nothing more than it would be too good to actually happen so our luck would see to it that it can't be sorted. We'll see...

If it is doable then we should try our best to get it done - we wouldn't sign a better player on our budget, not without it being a gamble. Boyle is a sure thing.

Whilst would love to see it done and have him back the one thing I would have a concern over is the other areas of the team, CB and CM. When we lost Boyle we lost the main attacking threat and pace in the team. We spent a lot and signed players to give us some of the attributes we were missing with Boyle gone. Youan for pace, Tavares, McGeady and have Melkerson, Bojang etc. Attacking players brought in to fill the Boyle void. We now need CB & CM but in getting Boyle back, on top of the Boyle replacements will that be the budget gone? We are still in desperate need of CB and CM as far as I can tell.

[phoenixfire]

I rubbished the Boyle coming back now brigade. Thought maybe in a couple years but not now. Still doubtful it'll happen but excited at the possibility. My doubt is nothing more than it would be too good to actually happen so our luck would see to it that it can't be sorted. We'll see...

If it is doable then we should try our best to get it done - we wouldn't sign a better player on our budget, not without it being a gamble. Boyle is a sure thing.

Whilst would love to see it done and have him back the one thing I would have a concern over is the other areas of the team, CB and CM. When we lost Boyle we lost the main attacking threat and pace in the team. We spent a lot and signed players to give us some of the attributes we were missing with Boyle gone. Youan for pace, Tavares, McGeady and have Melkerson, Bojang etc. Attacking players brought in to fill the Boyle void. We now need CB & CM but in getting Boyle back, on top of the Boyle replacements will that be the budget gone? We are still in desperate need of CB and CM as far as I can tell.

Still doubtful it will happen too and agree CB and CM short ! Though we don't try and get him though add CB and CM and Boyle goes elsewhere think hibs board will get stick!!

[McGruber]

Still doubtful it will happen too and agree CB and CM short ! Though we don't try and get him though add CB and CM and Boyle goes elsewhere think hibs board will get stick!!

Yeah, agreed. We have to go for him if it is possible to get him. If it means it is at the expense of the CB or CM then not ideal but so be it, Boyle would be massive for us

[phoenixfire]

Yeah, agreed. We have to go for him if it is possible to get him. If it means it is at the expense of the CB or CM then not ideal but so be it, Boyle would be massive for us
Boyle signing would be massive ! You are right though about CB and CM ! Let's hope we sign one more after Boyle if we get him ! Just me being greedy:aok:

[Callum_62]

I'd take a Squirrel over a Carroll singer every day of the year

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[HoboHarry]

I'd take a Squirrel over a Carroll singer every day of the year

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Was Pat Carroll known for his singing?


Might have to be a bit older to remember wee Pat 😀

[GloryGlory]

Wouldn't there need to be international clearance sorted out first?

Yes - would have to clear his registration with the Saudi FA.

[ChilliEater]

Yes - would have to clear his registration with the Saudi FA.

Come on - we're the mental HFC. We laugh in the face of player eligibility criteria 😃

[CapitalGreen]

I'd take a Squirrel over a Carroll singer every day of the year

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Tom?

[Jones28]

Suddenly I’m less hopeful

Just you get on flight tracker and keep a look out.


😜

[Unseen work]

Dunde United look like they’ve done good business on paper

Levitt
Fletcher
Sibbald
Birighitti
Behich
Middleton
McGrath.

Wouldn’t mind us trying to hijack the McGrath deal, think he’d be great competition for Henderson or even play both with one wider. I’d say Magennis but I just can’t imagine him being fit…..until the day he leaves us when he’ll probably be injury free at start every week for his new club such is our luck 😅

[Borderhibbie76]

Dunde United look like they’ve done good business on paper

Levitt
Fletcher
Sibbald
Birighitti
Behich
Middleton
McGrath.

Wouldn’t mind us trying to hijack the McGrath deal, think he’d be great competition for Henderson or even play both with one wider. I’d say Magennis but I just can’t imagine him being fit…..until the day he leaves us when he’ll probably be injury free at start every week for his new club such is our luck 😅

Levitt and Fletcher yes I agree, maybe McGrath but no sure on the rest. If we get Boyle back there is no room for Fletcher anyway so fingers crossed

[harry1875]

Boyle at Tranent v Berwick Rangers game last night so he's around. His reply to the many kids who were pestering him and asking him if he signing was "Maybe". He obviously wants it to happen but its not that simple.

[yonder1875]

Reading on Twitter that someone got mixed up and it’s not actually done as reported… well who saw that coming!! Think it could drag until the end of the window personally.

[Borderhibbie76]

Reading on Twitter that someone got mixed up and it’s not actually done as reported… well who saw that coming!! Think it could drag until the end of the window personally.

Same poster also posted the Squirrel gif last night all the ITKs are just at it on Twitter trying to say told u so

[Since452]

I think Boyle would really suit LJ's style of football. Boyle, Youan, Taveres, Melkersen. Yes please.

[B.H.F.C]

Reading on Twitter that someone got mixed up and it’s not actually done as reported… well who saw that coming!! Think it could drag until the end of the window personally.

I’m pretty confident of us signing him now but feel like, if we do, it won’t be done quickly.

[SaulGoodman]

Same poster also posted the Squirrel gif last night all the ITKs are just at it on Twitter trying to say told u so

Who’d have thought it, wouldn’t be the first time. Cover all bases and then they can say “see I told you from the start”

[04Sauzee]

Reading on Twitter that someone got mixed up and it’s not actually done as reported… well who saw that coming!! Think it could drag until the end of the window personally.

Im guessing because I'm very sinical that somebody pretends to be ITK saying they are signing then covers their backside by saying it might not happen.
Love him to sign but I'm still doubting it very much.

[Mcbizz1998]

Im guessing because I'm very sinical that somebody pretends to be ITK saying they are signing then covers their backside by saying it might not happen.
Love him to sign but I'm still doubting it very much.

It was Freddie White, aka The Cat who posted on here.

He definitely isn’t pretending to be ITK. He has been bang on in the past.

[Unseen work]

I think Boyle would really suit LJ's style of football. Boyle, Youan, Taveres, Melkersen. Yes please.

This is what really excites me, plus the thought of Nisbet back fit as Johnson is a big fan of him and I think will get the best out of him.

Having guys with pace like Youan, Boyle, Tavares, Melkersen etc will also make the central 3 in midfields job alot easier.

Can’t wait for the first Cabraja to Boyle diagonal pass 🤣

[Scottie]

It was Freddie White, aka The Cat who posted on here.

He definitely isn’t pretending to be ITK. He has been bang on in the past.
Any ideas why The Cat stopped posting on here ? Can’t remember tbh. �:wink:

[neil7908]

Any ideas why The Cat stopped posting on here ? Can’t remember tbh.

Oh God let's not go over that for the 100th time please 😂

[04Sauzee]

It was Freddie White, aka The Cat who posted on here.

He definitely isn’t pretending to be ITK. He has been bang on in the past.

I had no idea who posted it on Twitter, not actually sure what he's posted.

[Coco Bryce]

Im guessing because I'm very sinical that somebody pretends to be ITK saying they are signing then covers their backside by saying it might not happen.
Love him to sign but I'm still doubting it very much.

That's the thing though. Football singings are very complex like that.

They can be 99% happening but then collapse at the very last hurdles for numerous reasons.

[Greencore]

Would suspect a lot of paperwork to get through, especially since they've reportedly bumped hibs of 1.5m

Won't get my hopes up until scarf above head though.

[Mcbizz1998]

I had no idea who posted it on Twitter, not actually sure what he's posted.

The post you responded to was about someone who said it was done last night and then said in fact it was a case of crossed wires. That was the cat.

[Mcbizz1998]

Any ideas why The Cat stopped posting on here ? Can’t remember tbh. �:wink:

Haha! Yes…..but he did have some good info [emoji106]

[04Sauzee]

The post you responded to was about someone who said it was done last night and then said in fact it was a case of crossed wires. That was the cat.

I've got that thanks

[Col2]

Im guessing because I'm very sinical that somebody pretends to be ITK saying they are signing then covers their backside by saying it might not happen.
Love him to sign but I'm still doubting it very much.

It’s the usual suspects on twitter who start a frenzy then backtrack a little and end up saying “what ever happens the club are trying everything to get him but not in full control of it all”.

I would trust a few on here who has consistently been right but let’s be honest none of us are in the discussions so all we know is the club and player and keen for ER return but that’s it.

[SMAXXA]

That's the thing though. Football singings are very complex like that.

They can be 99% happening but then collapse at the very last hurdles for numerous reasons.

That’s why you never say things are a done deal when they arnt, like I said last night. I don’t think any of the obstacles are insurmountable and I’m still expecting the deal to go through. These folk who want to claim done deals etc for me are just trying to get some exclusive when in reality it’s pretty pointless. I’ve been told things previously that didn’t happen (not often tbf lol) but these things are so complex and we have been in positions with players before even recently that the deals have fell through late in the day.

I’d suggest folk let it play out and not be hanging on for a 10am announcement today 😂

[hibbie02]

There's a lot of speculation about positions we need to fill (CB & CM) and whether or not we can get Squirrel back. My preference would be Squirrel first, then a CB. If we are blowing the budget to get those 2, I would get Tait integrated into the squad and forget a new CM. I have a feeling that he is the answer that is staring us in the face.

[ian cruise]

That’s why you never say things are a done deal when they arnt, like I said last night. I don’t think any of the obstacles are insurmountable and I’m still expecting the deal to go through. These folk who want to claim done deals etc for me are just trying to get some exclusive when in reality it’s pretty pointless. I’ve been told things previously that didn’t happen (not often tbf lol) but these things are so complex and we have been in positions with players before even recently that the deals have fell through late in the day.

I’d suggest folk let it play out and not be hanging on for a 10am announcement today 😂

10am announcement today you say? Can't wait 😁

[Unseen work]

Aberdeen are signing Shayden Morris today who was previously linked with us too.

[SMAXXA]

10am announcement today you say? Can't wait 😁

😂😂😂😂👍

[Paulie Walnuts]

Aberdeen are signing Shayden Morris today who was previously linked with us too.

A forward with 2 goals in 40 appearances at League One level.

No thank you. Glad he’s going there.

[Fergus52]

There's a lot of speculation about positions we need to fill (CB & CM) and whether or not we can get Squirrel back. My preference would be Squirrel first, then a CB. If we are blowing the budget to get those 2, I would get Tait integrated into the squad and forget a new CM. I have a feeling that he is the answer that is staring us in the face.

:agree:

This is where I'm at too, I thought Kenneh Newell and Henderson played very well together on Saturday.

Then With Delferierre, JDH, Campbell, Tait and hopefully Magennis as backup and rotation options I don't think our midfield is as bad as some are making out.

That said I hope I don't see JDH, Newell and Campbell playing as a 3 in there again any time soon.

[Unseen work]

A forward with 2 goals in 40 appearances at League One level.

No thank you. Glad he’s going there.


Think he’s more of a right winger and it was his first or second full season. Think he’s highly rated as is the Ross County winger Edwards that we were linked with, supposedly tore hearts apart at the weekend.

Give me Boyle any day though.

[hibee-boys]

The cat posting on Twitter as if it’s done. If there’s one source I trust it’s his.

Mmmmm……didn’t he leave here because of the stick he got about a particular ITK situation which didn’t come to fruition?🤔

[Jones28]

Aberdeen are signing Shayden Morris today who was previously linked with us too.

Theres another one we've missed out on :rolleyes:

[Lago]

Any ideas why The Cat stopped posting on here ? Can’t remember tbh. �:wink:
Because he wasn't as much in the know as he thought he was, then took the huff.

[Hibs90]

👍 don’t think it’s done yet but I think it will be done soon

Obviously great news if it comes through, but we can't become a one man team again. There was an over reliance on Boyle to produce certainly during Ross time.

We will still need a quality CM and CB.

[BlackSheep]

Mmmmm……didn’t he leave here because of the stick he got about a particular ITK situation which didn’t come to fruition?🤔

Nah he left due to some words said about Dempster that were unfounded or unproven, after which he received a lot of abuse from members of this forum.

His info was usually very accurate, not always but he had a good track record.

Seemed to take the brunt of the Scott Allan not signing for us.

[bingo70]

Nah he left due to some words said about Dempster that were unfounded or unproven, after which he received a lot of abuse from members of this forum.

His info was usually very accurate, not always but he had a good track record.

Seemed to take the brunt of the Scott Allan not signing for us.

I’m going to make this more of a general point as it’s not nice picking and singling out specific posters, especially when they’re not here to defend themselves.

There were a number of posters who used to come out with ridiculously vague scoops, then give it the big told you so when we signed someone. Similarly when we’d been rumoured to be signing someone for a while, they’d say something like ‘I hear the deals done, just waiting on the announcement’ and claim to have the inside track because of that.

He certainly wasn’t alone in doing that and there’s still people doing it now. I don’t really get the urge to be seen as ITK, if anything you’re only going to make it harder to get good inside info in the future if you’re seen to be a mouth.

[Lago]

:aok:
I’m going to make this more of a general point as it’s not nice picking and singling out specific posters, especially when they’re not here to defend themselves.

There were a number of posters who used to come out with ridiculously vague scoops, then give it the big told you so when we signed someone. Similarly when we’d been rumoured to be signing someone for a while, they’d say something like ‘I hear the deals done, just waiting on the announcement’ and claim to have the inside track because of that.

He certainly wasn’t alone in doing that and there’s still people doing it now. I don’t really get the urge to be seen as ITK, if anything you’re only going to make it harder to get good inside info in the future if you’re seen to be a mouth.

[worcesterhibby]

I’m going to make this more of a general point as it’s not nice picking and singling out specific posters, especially when they’re not here to defend themselves.

There were a number of posters who used to come out with ridiculously vague scoops, then give it the big told you so when we signed someone. Similarly when we’d been rumoured to be signing someone for a while, they’d say something like ‘I hear the deals done, just waiting on the announcement’ and claim to have the inside track because of that.

He certainly wasn’t alone in doing that and there’s still people doing it now. I don’t really get the urge to be seen as ITK, if anything you’re only going to make it harder to get good inside info in the future if you’re seen to be a mouth.

Personally I love all the intrigue and gossip and rumour, it's what a "Greggs" thread should be about..certainly more fun that trawling through 4 pages of puns :rolleyes:. The papers are full of unsubstantiated gossip (often made up or nicked off here) by professional journalists, so there's not a lot of point calling out amateurs for doing the same...keep the ITK crap coming I say...I love it ! :greengrin

[OldEast]

Personally I love all the intrigue and gossip and rumour, it's what a "Greggs" thread should be about..certainly more fun that trawling through 4 pages of puns :rolleyes:. The papers are full of unsubstantiated gossip (often made up or nicked off here) by professional journalists, so there's not a lot of point calling out amateurs for doing the same...keep the ITK crap coming I say...I love it ! :greengrin

Quite right ban the puns 😡
Keep the rumours flying, they all get sorted one way or the other soon enough.

[scoopyboy]

Theres another one we've missed out on :rolleyes:

Or from the half full glass, they're only signing him because Boyle who was their original target is signing for Hibs. :greengrin

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Theres another one we've missed out on :rolleyes:

Nothing worse than missing out on players who we were never really in for.

[bingo70]

Personally I love all the intrigue and gossip and rumour, it's what a "Greggs" thread should be about..certainly more fun that trawling through 4 pages of puns :rolleyes:. The papers are full of unsubstantiated gossip (often made up or nicked off here) by professional journalists, so there's not a lot of point calling out amateurs for doing the same...keep the ITK crap coming I say...I love it ! :greengrin

So do i, it’s magic and my favourite time of the year.

[H18 SFR]

If Dundee Utd get McGrath over the line it’s some bit of business.

They are really backing their manager that’s for sure.

[S4uzee]

If Dundee Utd get McGrath over the line it’s some bit of business.

They are really backing their manager that’s for sure.

Is it? Never been that impressed when I’ve seen him

[H18 SFR]

Is it? Never been that impressed when I’ve seen him

Fair enough.

[04Sauzee]

If Dundee Utd get McGrath over the line it’s some bit of business.

They are really backing their manager that’s for sure.

I'm guessing he's been injured at Wigan ?
Looks like he's played 250 minutes for Wigan since he left St Mirren at the end of Jan.
I see he did make the bench at the weekend mind.

[hibby rae]

Personally I love all the intrigue and gossip and rumour, it's what a "Greggs" thread should be about..certainly more fun that trawling through 4 pages of puns :rolleyes:. The papers are full of unsubstantiated gossip (often made up or nicked off here) by professional journalists, so there's not a lot of point calling out amateurs for doing the same...keep the ITK crap coming I say...I love it ! :greengrin

I think it's punderful!

🤦🤦🤦

[JamesHFC]

I'm guessing he's been injured at Wigan ?
Looks like he's played 250 minutes for Wigan since he left St Mirren at the end of Jan.
I see he did make the bench at the weekend mind.

Nah I just don’t think he was fancied. Started 3 games for them and they lost all 3.

[RossScott1991]

LJ on sky sports saying they are in negotiations and it’s a complex deal: but one they want to complete

[04Sauzee]

LJ on sky sports saying they are in negotiations and it’s a complex deal: but one they want to complete

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1554774404181229569?t=kxYmRxqkF0vUhGvRfha7AA&s=19

[Glasgowhibby95]

Pretty noncommittal answer from LJ there. Hard to take anything from that really.

[Big_Franck]

Pretty noncommittal answer from LJ there. Hard to take anything from that really.

At least now we know it's not just a twitter rumour and that the club is actively working on it. Whether or not the Saudi club will play ball is another matter obviously.

[04Sauzee]

Pretty noncommittal answer from LJ there. Hard to take anything from that really.

Tbf he could have said there was nothing in it but spent a minute talking about him as a player a person and our interest 😃

[hibbyfraelibby]

Aberdeen are signing Shayden Morris today who was previously linked with us too.

Who by?

[overdrive]

Wouldn't think so, he's a British citizen with a British passport i'd assume.

The citizenship applies to work permits - so British citizen = no work permit needed.

International clearance is about registration of a player in a FA who was previously registered in another country's FA irrespective of citizenship.

So, we sign Cabraja who was registered with the Croatian FA - we need work permit and international clearance.

We sign McGeady, we need international clearance only as he's a UK citizen but England is classed as a different country for international clearance.

We sign Boyle, we need international clearance only as he's a UK citizen but he's coming from a club in a foreign FA.

But if we signed, lets say, Siegreist from Celtic, we wouldn't need international clearance as he's already registered in Scotland even though he's foreign. I'm not sure if he'd need a new work permit (or indeed if he needed a new work permit moving from Dundee Utd to Celtic).

[Iain G]

Who by?

His wife, Marina

[04Sauzee]

McGrath unveiled at Dundee Utd

[bigwheel]

McGrath unveiled at Dundee Utd

Impressive squad they are building

[badabing67]

McGrath unveiled at Dundee Utd

Its a loan deal wonder if they get the option to buy or is that just us

[Del Boy]

McGrath unveiled at Dundee Utd

Good signing, Levitt and McGrath in midfield is very strong.

[Billy Whizz]

Good signing, Levitt and McGrath in midfield is very strong.

2 goal scoring midfielders

[Since452]

Never been too impressed with McGrath against us and watched him closely as we were always liked with him. Jack Ross obviously a big fan though. Pretty sure if Ross was still here McGrath would have been too. Not one i'm bothered about to be honest. Levitt is though. Really good player.

[Springbank]

Can't see why we would have an option to buy a player loaned to Dundee United.

1910, Dundee Hibernians are formed, later known as Dundee United. As part of the deal Hibs are to get first refusal in any Utd loanees for 113 years

[04Sauzee]

2 goal scoring midfielders

Think he scored 3 goals last season Billy and 1 of those was in the league cup. Thought he had scored more than that tbh. Was he not their penalty taker at one point?

[vercol36]

1910, Dundee Hibernians are formed, later known as Dundee United. As part of the deal Hibs are to get first refusal in any Utd loanees for 113 years

Can't help but feel we should have made the same deal with Glasgow Hibs...

[Libby Hibby]

Did Levitt play when we beat United last season. Yeah, he’s a good but he’s not the next Messi like some folk are drooling over him in here.

[GreenGray]

Did Levitt play when we beat United last season. Yeah, he’s a good but he’s not the next Messi like some folk are drooling over him in here.

He’s good, strange they only got him on a two year deal though. Probably what put us off him


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[JamesHFC]

Did Levitt play when we beat United last season. Yeah, he’s a good but he’s not the next Messi like some folk are drooling over him in here.

I’m seeing a lot of hype around Dundee United. Bang average manager with a bang average squad. Yet to win a game since they came back for pre season.

[Torto7]

I’m seeing a lot of hype around Dundee United. Bang average manager with a bang average squad. Yet to win a game since they came back for pre season.

:agree: They are being a wee bit overrated. Similar to the gunts signing Alan Forest and Shankland. Most of these guys are par in the SPL although some on here seem to think Shankland and Fletch are balon dor nominees:wink:.

Dun Utd look solid and will be a typical Jack Ross team but I'd be surprised if they finish 4th again with us and the sheep presumably much improved and spending some serious dosh.

[Mcbizz1998]

Lots of hype around Hearts and Dundee United. One thing is for sure, I would be a lot happier if we had signed who they both have.

So many unknowns in our squad. Maybe it will come off.

[Dalianwanda]

Lots of hype around Hearts and Dundee United. One thing is for sure, I would be a lot happier if we had signed who they both have.

So many unknowns in our squad. Maybe it will come off.

will fletcher cut it at his age? will mcgrath get his form back after failing in england? will shankland finally be able to score in a top league? who knows

[Iain G]

2 goal scoring midfielders

1 each? :greengrin

[WhileTheChief..]

Lots of hype around Hearts and Dundee United. One thing is for sure, I would be a lot happier if we had signed who they both have.

So many unknowns in our squad. Maybe it will come off.

Agreed.

We’d all have been bouncing if we’d signed some of these players instead of trying to write them off.

Just got to hope the ones we’ve gone for can perform in Scotland.

[NC1875]

:agree: They are being a wee bit overrated. Similar to the gunts signing Alan Forest and Shankland. Most of these guys are par in the SPL although some on here seem to think Shankland and Fletch are balon dor nominees:wink:.

Dun Utd look solid and will be a typical Jack Ross team but I'd be surprised if they finish 4th again with us and the sheep presumably much improved and spending some serious dosh.

Laugh when the press talk about Hearts “blockbuster” signing Forrest. A blockbuster signing from the mighty Livi

[dmc1875]

Laugh when the press talk about Hearts “blockbuster” signing Forrest. A blockbuster signing from the mighty Livi

Think it was a really good signing for them tbf. Seemed to get better as last season went on, good age, goals and assists. I’d have been pretty happy if we had signed him tbh.

[Torto7]

Think it was a really good signing for them tbf. Seemed to get better as last season went on, good age, goals and assists. I’d have been pretty happy if we had signed him tbh.

Frequent bench player for Livi as well. Forest is average and Hearts and Dun Utd have packed their teams with players with little potential value in future sales. I much prefer our approach. There's a big world out there.

[Torto7]

Agreed.

We’d all have been bouncing if we’d signed some of these players instead of trying to write them off.

Just got to hope the ones we’ve gone for can perform in Scotland.

I wouldn't be bouncing at all if we had signed Shankland(donkey), Forest(average), Levitt(I'd like this but he isn't as good as folk on here make out), McGrath(seems to be on a downward spiral) Fletcher(over the hill). A bunch of meh predictable cardigan wearing pish from the boring Neilson and Ross.

Hibs net has a long history of over blowing other teams signings in the league. Remember when hearts beat us to the signing of the mighty Darren Barr and there was a meltdown on here. Ditto McCrorie and Ojo.

[jacomo]

We’d be a better team if we’d signed McCrorie.

[CapitalGreen]

We’d be a better team if we signed McCrorie. Imo.

Yup and we’ve spent the last 2 years lacking in both the centre back and defensive midfield positions which he plays.

[Hibernian Verse]

Yup and we’ve spent the last 2 years lacking in both the centre back and defensive midfield positions which he plays.

He's not played very well going by their league position last season.

[Stuart93]

Think it was a really good signing for them tbf. Seemed to get better as last season went on, good age, goals and assists. I’d have been pretty happy if we had signed him tbh.

I’ll be happier when we sign boyle

[Spike Mandela]

We’d be a better team if we’d signed McCrorie.

Aberdeen weren’t. They were worse.:confused:

[CapitalGreen]

He's not played very well going by their league position last season.

Wait until you find out St Mirren once got relegated with a midfield of John McGinn and Kenny McLean.

[HoboHarry]

Wait until you find out St Mirren once got relegated with a midfield of John McGinn and Kenny McLean.
Wasn't there a third well known player in that midfield? Forgetting now but I seem to recall there was....

[Smartie]

Wasn't there a third well known player in that midfield? Forgetting now but I seem to recall there was....

Stevie Mallan maybe?

[Stokesy's on fire]

We’d be a better team if we’d signed McCrorie.


Ross McCrorie is a rubbish player thank god we didn't sign him

[Stokesy's on fire]

McGrath unveiled at Dundee Utd


One of Aberdeens main targets interesting that united won that signature over them

[overdrive]

He's not played very well going by their league position last season.

I’ve no idea if he’s played well or not, but going by that logic, Boyle can’t be very good given we were struggling last season with him in the team, then his Saudi team got relegated.

[dmc1875]

I’ll be happier when we sign boyle

Me too but up until a few days ago that seemed a pipe dream. I don’t think the signings Hearts have made are as bad as some are making out - I don’t see Forrest or Shankland as donkeys or average as some are making them out to be.

[Ringothedog]

Can't help but feel we should have made the same deal with Glasgow Hibs...

They went bust in 1890 😉

[Hibernian Verse]

Wait until you find out St Mirren once got relegated with a midfield of John McGinn and Kenny McLean.

And they both left St Mirren straight away after that as clubs could see their individual quality.

I don't see anyone trying to sign McCrorie because he's bang average.

[Hibernian Verse]

I’ve no idea if he’s played well or not, but going by that logic, Boyle can’t be very good given we were struggling last season with him in the team, then his Saudi team got relegated.

Boyle isn't a CB or CDM mainly responsible for defensive play.

[Unseen work]

One of Aberdeens main targets interesting that united won that signature over them

Dave Cormack at Aberdeen put up a tweet last night pretty much saying McGrath wanted to go and the deal was agreed but then changed last minute and they rejected it as it wasn’t good value if something like that

[overdrive]

Boyle isn't a CB or CDM mainly responsible for defensive play.

Yet we struggled with one of the best defensive records in the league.

Edit: and we did that with a player who pretty much everyone agreed was pretty useless last season - Rocky.

[Hibernian Verse]

Yet we struggled with one of the best defensive records in the league.

Edit: and we did that with a player who pretty much everyone agreed was pretty useless last season - Rocky.

Ok. We won 8 games in the league before Boyle left, and won 3 in 18 after he had. It wasn't Boyle's fault we were in relegation form from 17th January onwards. In fact, it shows just how much we needed him that we couldn't get an extra 15 points or so and qualify for Europe.

[Northernhibee]

:agree: They are being a wee bit overrated. Similar to the gunts signing Alan Forest and Shankland. Most of these guys are par in the SPL although some on here seem to think Shankland and Fletch are balon dor nominees:wink:.

Dun Utd look solid and will be a typical Jack Ross team but I'd be surprised if they finish 4th again with us and the sheep presumably much improved and spending some serious dosh.
I’ll be honest, I think that Dundee United will finish above Hearts this season.

If I can ask the gods of football for one thing, let that be in 11th 😂

[patlowe]

Totally agree with the view that Forrest and Shankland are not the types of signing that should give us the fear. That's not to say I'd turn my nose up at them - both perfectly fine for our league and will no doubt supplement the squad through a congested fixture list and to consolidate third, but probably quite expensive salary wise and I just can't see them helping to grow the club long term, though I may be wrong.

That's not to say I'm convinced at the wisdom of the pick and mix approach we seem to be taking. There really is no guarantee our guys will adapt to the league/culture etc, which Forrest and Shankland will not have to worry about. The potential upside is transfer fees down the line but the eternal quest for a new SJM is needle in a haystack stuff, as in hindsight that really was a bit of a freak situation.

For me, when we are investing so much in younger players it really was a no-brainer to try for Fletcher (and maybe we did?). I feel like older centre forwards can offer so much in terms of experience and nous, and not just through goals but influence and physicality (see Brewster/Mixu/Holt). Would've loved to have seen how Melkerson would develop with that kind of guy around, for example.

[CapitalGreen]

And they both left St Mirren straight away after that as clubs could see their individual quality.

I don't see anyone trying to sign McCrorie because he's bang average.

We tried very hard to sign him.

[badabing67]

Laugh when the press talk about Hearts “blockbuster” signing Forrest. A blockbuster signing from the mighty Livi

He has made a decent start to be fair

[Brightside]

Ross McCrorie is a rubbish player thank god we didn't sign him

He's a very good player. No idea why they keep playing him as a defender mind you.

[Since452]

Yet to see anything that makes me think McCrorie is a good player. Bang average.

[04Sauzee]

We tried very hard to sign him.

And McCart 😐

[SaulGoodman]

And McCart 😐

And Boyle 😐

[ian cruise]

McGrath, Levitt, Forrest are all the level of player we've been signing for the last half a dozen seasons. They're SPFL level, nothing special.

Levitt might kick on to another level, or might just float around the SPFL, has the feel of a player that if we signed he'd be half the player he was for Dundee Utd, same way Swanson was, or prior to him someone like Liam Craig.

McGrath is the same as JDH. Didn't really shine but was tidy enough to impress. Probably flattered a little by the level of the players around him being slightly poorer making him stand out. Again decent player but not any different from many others, his penalty taking helped his goals scored look very good if I'm not mistaken.

Forrest a decent player. Probably the next Paul McGinn. Will have a good but not exceptional career (no disrespect intendedl.

Signings we've made might turn out to be inspired, or the gamble might not pay off and the safe approach Dundee Utd and Hearts have taken will look much wiser. It's going to (hopefully) be fun finding out.