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Leighonel
13-08-2022, 08:06 AM
Scottish Premiership side Hibernian are in the strongest position to secure the signing of Luke McCormick from AFC Wimbledon.
The attacking midfielder, who has yet to feature this season under Johnnie Jackson, will miss Wimbledon’s League Two match with Doncaster Rovers this afternoon.
The South London Press understands McCormick is not injured and wants to move away from Plough Lane this transfer window.
League One side Bristol Rovers have also been keen to sign McCormick over the summer.
The former Chelsea midfielder spent the 2020-21 season on loan with the Gas, scoring six goals and picking up two assists during the campaign.
The 23-year-old joined the Dons under Mark Robinson and scored eight goals and recorded nine assists last season for the Dons.
McCormick, who has two years left on his deal with the Dons, is one of the club’s highest earners, and his former side Chelsea would be due a percentage of any sale should he leave.
Hibs, managed by former Sunderland boss Lee Johnson, have picked up four points from their first two games of the season.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/hibs-favourites-to-land-dons-midfielder/
Ronniekirk
13-08-2022, 08:16 AM
Scottish Premiership side Hibernian are in the strongest position to secure the signing of Luke McCormick from AFC Wimbledon.
The attacking midfielder, who has yet to feature this season under Johnnie Jackson, will miss Wimbledon’s League Two match with Doncaster Rovers this afternoon.
The South London Press understands McCormick is not injured and wants to move away from Plough Lane this transfer window.
League One side Bristol Rovers have also been keen to sign McCormick over the summer.
The former Chelsea midfielder spent the 2020-21 season on loan with the Gas, scoring six goals and picking up two assists during the campaign.
The 23-year-old joined the Dons under Mark Robinson and scored eight goals and recorded nine assists last season for the Dons.
McCormick, who has two years left on his deal with the Dons, is one of the club’s highest earners, and his former side Chelsea would be due a percentage of any sale should he leave.
Hibs, managed by former Sunderland boss Lee Johnson, have picked up four points from their first two games of the season.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/
hibs-favourites-to-land-dons-midfielder/
Would be happy if this come to fruition But sounds like a fee would be needed
And Chelsea are due a cut of any fee So not sure how we can afford this given Johnson saying we have tickled over our player budget
Mikey_1875
13-08-2022, 08:17 AM
Looks good, if he can get 8 goals and 9 assists up here then that’s exactly what we need!
Hibernian Verse
13-08-2022, 08:19 AM
Would be happy if this come to fruition But sounds like a fee would be needed
And Chelsea are due a cut of any fee So not sure how we can afford this given Johnson saying we have tickled over our player budget
Managers will say anything. He’s not going to suggest we have money to spend in an interview, it would just drive up the price.
Since452
13-08-2022, 08:40 AM
According to a United fan at work they are paying Watt close to 5k a week. How in earth can they afford that?
hibbyfraelibby
13-08-2022, 08:43 AM
Would be happy if this come to fruition But sounds like a fee would be needed
And Chelsea are due a cut of any fee So not sure how we can afford this given Johnson saying we have tickled over our player budget
No manager or club goes into a transfer negociation telling the other party they have pots of money. These are player transfers we are talking about not corrupt Tory PPE contracts
neil7908
13-08-2022, 08:45 AM
According to a United fan at work they are paying Watt close to 5k a week. How in earth can they afford that?
Do they not have a rich American guy chucking money into the club? A bit like our pals in Gorgie
Callum_62
13-08-2022, 09:00 AM
https://youtu.be/bYU4K5zMwMk
This was is league 1
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Oscar T Grouch
13-08-2022, 09:04 AM
According to a United fan at work they are paying Watt close to 5k a week. How in earth can they afford that?
They had a wages to turnover ratio of around 135% a few years ago when they were paying Shankland that sort of money in the championship. Seems their owner has deep pockets.
chippy
13-08-2022, 09:04 AM
Looks good, if he can get 8 goals and 9 assists up here then that’s exactly what we need!
Impressive video highlights. Looks a player. Skill, graft, energy , can tackle and forward inclined
Heisenberg
13-08-2022, 09:11 AM
Some Wimbledon fans seem happy to see him go although that appears to be because he’s pushing to move rather than anything else.
Big_Franck
13-08-2022, 09:21 AM
On paper McCormick looks like a midfielder that would chip in with a few goals, which is exactly what we need. He played 40 games for Wimbledon in League 2 last year, scoring 7 and making 7 assists. My only concern is the level of England's 4th division, as we've seen plenty players arrive from that level and they've often been honking.
ancient hibee
13-08-2022, 09:35 AM
Do they not have a rich American guy chucking money into the club? A bit like our pals in Gorgie
Think you mean like us:greengrin
GordonHFC
13-08-2022, 09:39 AM
Think you mean like us:greengrin
Excuse me. Rich Peruvian if you don't mind 😁
Souter96Mac
13-08-2022, 09:42 AM
Easily done, but the lad looks decent via YouTube. Decent goal & assist return too, albeit league 1.
Looks like the player we need in midfield, someone with a bit of creativity and goals
h185forever
13-08-2022, 09:51 AM
Think you mean like us:greengrin
i thought wages had to be a ratio of turnover ..not donations? ….but I guess if he funds transfer costs …then wages come from turnover. :dunno:
A Hi-Bee
13-08-2022, 09:57 AM
No manager or club goes into a transfer negociation telling the other party they have pots of money. These are player transfers we are talking about not corrupt Tory PPE contracts
:top marks:faf::faf::faf:
Nicho87
13-08-2022, 10:01 AM
Certainly a good turnover of players now anyway.
One or two might get shown the door though. Certainly if there is a centre back getting worked on in the background.
Doidge the obvious bigger earner May get moved on perhaps
Tambo
13-08-2022, 10:10 AM
8 goals and 9 assists ain't to shabby.
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 10:22 AM
On paper McCormick looks like a midfielder that would chip in with a few goals, which is exactly what we need. He played 40 games for Wimbledon in League 2 last year, scoring 7 and making 7 assists. My only concern is the level of England's 4th division, as we've seen plenty players arrive from that level and they've often been honking.
It’s an absolutely terrible level. That’s not to say this guy is terrible, but it’s a huge step up from there to the Scottish Premiership.
CapitalGreen
13-08-2022, 10:26 AM
It’s an absolutely terrible level. That’s not to say this guy is terrible, but it’s a huge step up from there to the Scottish Premiership.
Wimbledon got relegated. He was playing in League 1 last season not League 2.
Torto7
13-08-2022, 10:27 AM
Certainly a good turnover of players now anyway.
One or two might get shown the door though. Certainly if there is a centre back getting worked on in the background.
Doidge the obvious bigger earner May get moved on perhaps
Dundee asked about Doidge on loan a couple of weeks back but he didnt want to go to the first division.
neil7908
13-08-2022, 10:30 AM
Think you mean like us:greengrin
Hahaha, touché!
theonlywayisup
13-08-2022, 10:30 AM
It’s an absolutely terrible level. That’s not to say this guy is terrible, but it’s a huge step up from there to the Scottish Premiership.
:agree: just imagine what the score would be between AZ and AFC Wimbeldon, would never be 7-0 :offski:
Can someone remind me which respective clubs did we recruit Ivan Sproule and Alan O'Brien from :hmmm:
Since452
13-08-2022, 10:31 AM
8 goals and 9 assists ain't to shabby.
A very poor level but we obviously think he can make the step up. Newell would look like Pirlo in league one.
theonlywayisup
13-08-2022, 10:36 AM
I see from the OP that we're rumoured to have an interest in:
Elliot Anderson (midfielder, Newcastle)
Adam Griger (striker, LASK)
Charlie Kirk (midfielder, Charlton)
Luke McCormick (midfielder, Wimbledon)
Terell Thomas (defender, Reading)
Obviously the Luke McCormick one is recent, but what's the latest on the other four? Apologies, apart from the Griger one, I've not heard about the other ones.
Ozyhibby
13-08-2022, 10:47 AM
I see from the OP that we're rumoured to have an interest in:
Elliot Anderson (midfielder, Newcastle)
Adam Griger (striker, LASK)
Charlie Kirk (midfielder, Charlton)
Luke McCormick (midfielder, Wimbledon)
Terell Thomas (defender, Reading)
Obviously the Luke McCormick one is recent, but what's the latest on the other four? Apologies, apart from the Griger one, I've not heard about the other ones.
No idea what any of them are like but I’m just happy we seem to be interested in midfielders at last.
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Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 10:47 AM
Wimbledon got relegated. He was playing in League 1 last season not League 2.
Ah ok, I presumed he was playing in League 2 :aok:
Big_Franck
13-08-2022, 10:53 AM
I see from the OP that we're rumoured to have an interest in:
Elliot Anderson (midfielder, Newcastle)
Adam Griger (striker, LASK)
Charlie Kirk (midfielder, Charlton)
Luke McCormick (midfielder, Wimbledon)
Terell Thomas (defender, Reading)
Obviously the Luke McCormick one is recent, but what's the latest on the other four? Apologies, apart from the Griger one, I've not heard about the other ones.
There's been nothing that I've seen since the initial rumours emerged and another week has passed without that centre half and centre mid. I'm starting to think the club think we're covered there as they don't seem to be in any rush, which IMO is similar to last season with them thinking we were covered up front and it being obvious to a lot fans that we were light there.
Hibby Kay-Yay
13-08-2022, 11:28 AM
There's been nothing that I've seen since the initial rumours emerged and another week has passed without that centre half and centre mid. I'm starting to think the club think we're covered there as they don't seem to be in any rush, which IMO is similar to last season with them thinking we were covered up front and it being obvious to a lot fans that we were light there.
Surely McCormick and Griger recent rumours goes against what you are saying? I’m sure there’s a huge amount of work and effort in the recruitment team just now that they don’t tell us about.
Big_Franck
13-08-2022, 11:51 AM
Surely McCormick and Griger recent rumours goes against what you are saying? I’m sure there’s a huge amount of work and effort in the recruitment team just now that they don’t tell us about.
It sounded to me like he was asking for updates on "the other ones" on his list. I've not seen anything since the initial rumour emerged on those, so seems unlikely now. Anyway, a win today will keep the feel good factor going until we can get these key players in.
The Captain....
13-08-2022, 12:07 PM
Be good to add McCormick's potential goals to the.midfield. He looked sharp in those clips and a good finisher.
With Boyle now back as well and Youan starting to find his feet it's made me feel a lot more encouraged that we have goals in the squad.
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Phil MaGlass
13-08-2022, 12:09 PM
Boyata available
https://www.thenational.scot/sport/20620643.former-celtic-defender-earns-brutal-contributing-nothing-verdict-bundesliga-club/
HendoDelivered
13-08-2022, 12:47 PM
Boyata available
https://www.thenational.scot/sport/20620643.former-celtic-defender-earns-brutal-contributing-nothing-verdict-bundesliga-club/
Massive wages. No chance.
Unseen work
13-08-2022, 12:52 PM
Rocky out injured today only highlights the need for a centre back
badabing67
13-08-2022, 12:54 PM
Massive wages. No chance.
He is going to take a massive drop in wages where ever he goes.
HendoDelivered
13-08-2022, 01:05 PM
He is going to take a massive drop in wages where ever he goes.
But it defo wont be us
badabing67
13-08-2022, 01:25 PM
Cheers Diclonius all signed up and watching from Stockholm :aok:
Unseen work
13-08-2022, 04:01 PM
Jon Nouble.
Spike Mandela
13-08-2022, 04:02 PM
Boyle momentum didn't last long.
Heisenberg
13-08-2022, 04:03 PM
12 signings (I think?) and we are still rotten in front of goal, still have nothing in midfield and still concede soft as ***** goals. Brilliant.
bingo70
13-08-2022, 04:15 PM
12 signings (I think?) and we are still rotten in front of goal, still have nothing in midfield and still concede soft as ***** goals. Brilliant.
We’re also only 3 league games in though.
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 04:16 PM
We’re also only 3 league games in though.
We’re 7 competitive games in though and by and large we’ve been pretty poor.
I don’t think it’s ridiculous to expect more after 7 competitive games than we’ve seen.
SaulGoodman
13-08-2022, 04:17 PM
Couple big signings needed
WhileTheChief..
13-08-2022, 04:18 PM
If this is our squad, then even with everyone fully fit and available, I don’t think we’ll finish top 6.
I don’t see how we improve between now and the World Cup or winter break?
Is it really as simple as giving it time and allowing players to settle and gel?
GreenCastle
13-08-2022, 04:20 PM
If this is our squad, then even with everyone fully fit and available, I don’t think we’ll finish top 6.
I don’t see how we improve between now and the World Cup or winter break?
Is it really as simple as giving it time and allowing players to settle and gel?
No it’s we urgently need a centre back and a new midfield - or at worst x1 central midfielder who will come in as a starter. Not a project player - a player who will make a difference.
Just over 2 weeks to sort - should be sorted by now but oddly hasn’t.
Heisenberg
13-08-2022, 04:22 PM
We’re also only 3 league games in though.
Pumped out the league cup by Falkirk and Morton too though.
thebausburst
13-08-2022, 04:23 PM
Can we not sign Joel Nouble and punt Doidge to DU to help fund it. Guy is a complete handful and would add massively to our front line, Doidge is honking now and wouldn’t be missed.
GreenCastle
13-08-2022, 04:23 PM
Nouble and Omeonga would be an upgrade on Doidge and our midfield plus 2 guys who have energy and who the fans can get behind. Surely wouldn’t even cost much either. Would weaken Livi and I’m sure both would jump at the chance to play for Hibs.
bingo70
13-08-2022, 04:24 PM
We’re 7 competitive games in though and by and large we’ve been pretty poor.
I don’t think it’s ridiculous to expect more after 7 competitive games than we’ve seen.
Second half we were good I thought. I didn’t see the first half.
Like to or not, Livi away is a tough place to go. Clearly people expecting us to go the season unbeaten but that was never realistic.
We will lose some games this season, the second half gave cause for optimism IMO.
Rome wasn’t built in a day.
WestStandWillie
13-08-2022, 04:24 PM
The baws burst if we don’t move on/recruit
Out - Hanlon, Doidge, Newell, Campbell
In - new CH and a some creativity in the middle of the park.
For me, Jair, Melkersen and Bojang are back up players who don’t add any real substance to the squad which is worrying
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 04:27 PM
Second half we were good I thought. I didn’t see the first half.
Like to or not, Livi away is a tough place to go. Clearly people expecting us to go the season unbeaten but that was never realistic.
We will lose some games this season, the second half gave cause for optimism IMO.
Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I don’t think anyone is expecting us to go the season unbeaten and imo it’s a bit of a childish suggestion.
What I do think people are expecting is signs of progress. We’re 7 games in now and if we’re all being honest with ourselves, there’s been very little signs of that. It’s the same issues as last season which plenty people predicted because we have neglected to improve the areas that caused these issues.
Numptie
13-08-2022, 04:27 PM
Tell me when I need to want all the top 4 teams to win every week. So that someone stays below us ?
thebausburst
13-08-2022, 04:27 PM
The baws burst if we don’t move on/recruit
Out - Hanlon, Doidge, Newell, Campbell
In - new CH and a some creativity in the middle of the park.
For me, Jair, Melkersen and Bojang are back up players who don’t add any real substance to the squad which is worrying
Jair and Bojang are dug meat let’s be honest
bingo70
13-08-2022, 04:31 PM
I don’t think anyone is expecting us to go the season unbeaten and imo it’s a bit of a childish suggestion.
What I do think people are expecting is signs of progress. We’re 7 games in now and if we’re all being honest with ourselves, there’s been very little. It’s the same issues as last season which plenty people predicted because we have neglected to improve the areas that caused these issues.
I think looking at the reaction today that’s exactly what it looks like.
There’s a way to lose games, and for me that was it. By all accounts we were terrible in the first half but second half we took the game to Livi, scored a goal and created chances. It wasnt to be though and they hit us with a sucker punch at the end.
In recent seasons when we’ve got beaten we’ve gone out with a damp squib, that never happened today.
Defeats happen sometimes, IMO we went out fighting today and it’s just one we need to take on the chin.
Callum_62
13-08-2022, 04:33 PM
I think looking at the reaction today that’s exactly what it looks like.
There’s a way to lose games, and for me that was it. By all accounts we were terrible in the first half but second half we took the game to Livi, scored a goal and created chances. It wasnt to be though and they hit us with a sucker punch at the end.
In recent seasons when we’ve got beaten we’ve gone out with a damp squib, that never happened today.
Defeats happen sometimes, IMO we went out fighting today and it’s just one we need to take on the chin.I agree
Even when hit with the sucker punch we went and forced the issue and really should have equalised
That first half was unacceptable though
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Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 04:39 PM
I think looking at the reaction today that’s exactly what it looks like.
There’s a way to lose games, and for me that was it. By all accounts we were terrible in the first half but second half we took the game to Livi, scored a goal and created chances. It wasnt to be though and they hit us with a sucker punch at the end.
In recent seasons when we’ve got beaten we’ve gone out with a damp squib, that never happened today.
Defeats happen sometimes, IMO we went out fighting today and it’s just one we need to take on the chin.
You genuinely believe that because people are pissed off after watching a terrible 45 mins and then a better second 45 mins and ending up with us getting beat that these same people expect us to go the season unbeaten?
There is a way to lose. Being absolutely woeful for 45 mins of the match isn’t one of them though and if it hadn’t of been for that 45 mins we probably wouldn’t have lost the match.
The idea that such a woeful 45 minutes can be part of a performance that can be described as ‘the way to lose’ is ludicrous imo.
We were playing Livingston and both teams spent 45 mins being considerably better than the other. That is in no way shape or form the way to lose a game to me.
JohnM1875
13-08-2022, 04:44 PM
I agree
Even when hit with the sucker punch we went and forced the issue and really should have equalised
That first half was unacceptable though
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I totally agree but why is it such a common thing for us just now? Majority of Maloney's games and still this season we are just far too pedestrian in the first half of games, often with zero shots on goal. It's completely unacceptable. Especially when the second half performance is so much improved.
bingo70
13-08-2022, 04:48 PM
You genuinely believe that because people are pissed off after watching a terrible 45 mins and then a better second 45 mins and ending up with us getting beat that these same people expect us to go the season unbeaten?
There is a way to lose. Being absolutely woeful for 45 mins of the match isn’t one of them though and if it hadn’t of been for that 45 mins we probably wouldn’t have lost the match.
The idea that such a woeful 45 minutes can be part of a performance that can be described as ‘the way to lose’ is ludicrous imo.
We were playing Livingston and both teams spent 45 mins being considerably better than the other. That is in no way shape or form the way to lose a game to me.
Yes, we improved massively in the second half to try and rectify it, that’s what I want from my team if they have a poor first half.
I think the reaction to a defeat like this is miles OTT, it was a tight game against a good, difficult to beat side that could have gone either way. The fact we were on the wrong side of a 2-1 isn’t the disaster it’s being made out to be, it happens to better sides than Hibs and it’ll happen again this season. There’s no need for the hysterics though IMO.
Jones28
13-08-2022, 04:48 PM
Jair and Bojang are dug meat let’s be honest
Ffs this is just pathetic.
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 04:51 PM
Yes, we improved massively in the second half to try and rectify it, that’s what I want from my team if they have a poor first half.
I think the reaction to a defeat like this is miles OTT, it was a tight game against a good, difficult to beat side that could have gone either way. The fact we were on the wrong side of a 2-1 isn’t the disaster it’s being made out to be, it happens to better sides than Hibs and it’ll happen again this season. There’s no need for the hysterics though IMO.
You’re obviously seeing different posts from me if you think a lot of it is hysterics or people making out that this specific result is a disaster in isolation.
The majority of what’s being posted has been repeated continuously for a season now. It’s not some sort of knee jerk reaction. People are pissed off at watching the same old story unfold with the same glaringly obvious issues in our team in vital areas remaining unaddressed, just as they were last summer and just as they were in January. The fact other teams will lose to Livi doesn’t really make any difference to that feeling.
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 04:52 PM
Not a great day for the old recruitment policy.
Melkersen hooked after 20 minutes. Tavares at half time. Having to bring a centre half on that was signed for the development team and losing a goal a few minutes later.
Going to that type of place you need players who can stand up to it and we didn’t have that today.
hhibs
13-08-2022, 05:18 PM
You’re obviously seeing different posts from me if you think a lot of it is hysterics or people making out that this specific result is a disaster in isolation.
The majority of what’s being posted has been repeated continuously for a season now. It’s not some sort of knee jerk reaction. People are pissed off at watching the same old story unfold with the same glaringly obvious issues in our team in vital areas remaining unaddressed, just as they were last summer and just as they were in January. The fact other teams will lose to Livi doesn’t really make any difference to that feeling.
Absolutely agree with you,the failures are often and consistent.
Brightside
13-08-2022, 05:20 PM
Not a great day for the old recruitment policy.
Melkersen hooked after 20 minutes. Tavares at half time. Having to bring a centre half on that was signed for the development team and losing a goal a few minutes later.
Going to that type of place you need players who can stand up to it and we didn’t have that today.
Was Melk not injured? Agree on taveres tbh he looks very poor.
HendoDelivered
13-08-2022, 05:25 PM
Really hope we have a new CM & CB signed in time for the Rangers game
BoomtownHibees
13-08-2022, 05:26 PM
Was Melk not injured? Agree on taveres tbh he looks very poor.
No sure he was injured with his reaction at being taken off
bingo70
13-08-2022, 05:30 PM
No sure he was injured with his reaction at being taken off
LJ said he was injured in the post match interview. On the EEN website now.
BoomtownHibees
13-08-2022, 05:32 PM
LJ said he was injured in the post match interview. On the EEN website now.
Fair enough. Didn’t see anything happen at the game that would have injured him and seemed pretty pissed off at going off
Smartie
13-08-2022, 05:36 PM
Jair and Bojang are dug meat let’s be honest
Ffs this is just pathetic.
Rephrase it slightly to "neither Jair nor Bojang look anywhere near the level required to make a positive contribution for the first team at Hibs right now" and i think it's a very fair point.
cabbageandribs1875
13-08-2022, 05:39 PM
although certainly not the only one today but i thought jair was very poor, and bojang not much better, same melkerson, same Doidge, same (insert name)
percy veer
13-08-2022, 05:39 PM
Fair enough. Didn’t see anything happen at the game that would have injured him and seemed pretty pissed off at going off
I was in the livi end the day took a knock to the ankle asked to come off.
bingo70
13-08-2022, 05:41 PM
Rephrase it slightly to "neither Jair nor Bojang look anywhere near the level required to make a positive contribution for the first team at Hibs right now" and i think it's a very fair point.
Regards to Bojang, that was a horrible miss, there’s no denying that. I was always told though that the time to worry about strikers was when they weren’t getting chances.
He posed more if a threat in 2 minutes than Doidge has in the last 2 games. I’m not writing him off just yet.
Jones28
13-08-2022, 05:47 PM
Rephrase it slightly to "neither Jair nor Bojang look anywhere near the level required to make a positive contribution for the first team at Hibs right now" and i think it's a very fair point.
That not what the poster said though was it? So it’s bollocks.
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 05:48 PM
LJ said he was injured in the post match interview. On the EEN website now.
Fair enough. He’d have been brought of regardless because he was very similar to Tavares in that he was just getting brushed off the ball. I do feel for him a bit in that he’s never a right winger.
Hibiza
13-08-2022, 05:51 PM
High time LJ woke up and puts together a functional midfield or it's another season of misery and a new manager at the end of it .
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 05:55 PM
High time LJ woke up and puts together a functional midfield or it's another season of misery and a new manager at the end of it .
It’s not our only problem by any stretch of the imagination. But I still can’t believe we haven’t done more about it.
truehibernian
13-08-2022, 06:17 PM
High time LJ woke up and puts together a functional midfield or it's another season of misery and a new manager at the end of it .
Ask yourself this……..
Five years ago if any of McGinn, Dylan, Scotty, Marvin, or even KT were out for a game or two there would be disappointment.
Five years on, if any of Newell, Campbell, JDH, Henderson or A N Other were out, no one would be overly concerned - that’s the impact, or lack of, any of these players make.
Crucial area of the pitch, allowed to become the weakest link at an alarming rate, season after season since 2017/18.
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 06:38 PM
Hold your laughter here while I ask this but..
Are we ever going to get any sort of update on Magennis?
LewysGot2
13-08-2022, 06:45 PM
Hold your laughter here while I ask this but..
Are we ever going to get any sort of update on Magennis?
Who? 👀
Nicho87
13-08-2022, 06:47 PM
Hold your laughter here while I ask this but..
Are we ever going to get any sort of update on Magennis?
Not being rude to the boy and wish him a speedy recovery to save his football career
But I’m forgetting he’s there cause it’s futile relying on a player who hasn’t stayed fit for a sustained period of time since he joined the club.
Scotty Leither
13-08-2022, 06:58 PM
Is it one in one out now, judging by Johnson’s comments re the Boyle transfer?
The club are deluding themselves if they think that midfield will be anything like competitive and controlling games this season.,,
And any chance we can sign a physical forward that the ball sticks to?
percy veer
13-08-2022, 07:02 PM
Is it one in one out now, judging by Johnson’s comments re the Boyle transfer?
The club are deluding themselves if they think that midfield will be anything like competitive and controlling games this season.,,
And any chance we can sign a physical forward that the ball sticks to?
If hibs don't go after nouble after that today they are mugs , someone else hearts or Aberdeen probs will get a very powerful striker
JohnM1875
13-08-2022, 07:06 PM
If hibs don't go after nouble after that today they are mugs , someone else hearts or Aberdeen probs will get a very powerful striker
We can go after him all we want, probably couldn't afford him right now without selling a few players. And let's be honest, can't see folk queuing up to sign any of our players we'd let go.
CallumLaidlaw
13-08-2022, 07:06 PM
If hibs don't go after nouble after that today they are mugs , someone else hearts or Aberdeen probs will get a very powerful striker
Aberdeen thought that when they signed JET.
I personally don’t think he’d be successful at anyone higher than Livvy.
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The Modfather
13-08-2022, 07:08 PM
Is it one in one out now, judging by Johnson’s comments re the Boyle transfer?
The club are deluding themselves if they think that midfield will be anything like competitive and controlling games this season.,,
And any chance we can sign a physical forward that the ball sticks to?
Hopefully it is just brinksmanship, but if it really is one in one out then spending any kind of fee on the likes of the new striker is a case of the development squad spend directly impacting the first team squad. Spending money on the development squad when we’ve almost not even started to address our priority part of the team, midfield, would be a red flag.
Hopefully of course it is just brinkmanship and/or the new striker was signed for the first team.
Zambernardi1875
13-08-2022, 07:08 PM
I totally agree but why is it such a common thing for us just now? Majority of Maloney's games and still this season we are just far too pedestrian in the first half of games, often with zero shots on goal. It's completely unacceptable. Especially when the second half performance is so much improved.
Maloney was playing with his hands tied with so many key injuries and Boyle away. I think he’d do a lot better with this squad
WhileTheChief..
13-08-2022, 07:13 PM
Not a great day for the old recruitment policy.
Melkersen hooked after 20 minutes. Tavares at half time. Having to bring a centre half on that was signed for the development team and losing a goal a few minutes later.
Going to that type of place you need players who can stand up to it and we didn’t have that today.
Today? We never / rarely have that!
Thousands of us have been saying it for over a year. Eventually the folk that count at the club will see it too!
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 07:18 PM
Today? We never / rarely have that!
Thousands of us have been saying it for over a year. Eventually the folk that count at the club will see it too!
I wouldn’t hold your breath.
Tyler Durden
13-08-2022, 07:40 PM
We could have done a lot worse than sign the likes of Livi’s Obileye or Lamie from Motherwell in the summer. Pretty much bang average CBs but if we simply asked them to do the basics they would do a better job than what we have. Even for a season.
Hanlon being totally useless today was so sadly inevitable.
Unseen work
13-08-2022, 07:42 PM
We could have done a lot worse than sign the likes of Livi’s Obileye or Lamie from Motherwell in the summer. Pretty much bang average CBs but if we simply asked them to do the basics they would do a better job than what we have. Even for a season.
Hanlon being totally useless today was so sadly inevitable.
I really hope that things are never that bad that we’d consider Lamie as a good signing
Heisenberg
13-08-2022, 07:42 PM
Omeonga would stroll into this Hibs side. Everything we are missing in midfield. Hopefully we’ve got someone with that kind of energy and tenacity lined up.
Tyler Durden
13-08-2022, 07:49 PM
I really hope that things are never that bad that we’d consider Lamie as a good signing
Under normal circumstances I’d say the same. I’m just getting a bit depressed that we’ve had 2-3 years to sign a CB and we could have picked any of about 6 from bottom 6 teams who would have improved our squad.
Instead we start another season short and more days of getting bullied by basic number 9s. Albeit Nouble is a decent player.
JimBHibees
13-08-2022, 07:49 PM
Omeonga would stroll into this Hibs side. Everything we are missing in midfield. Hopefully we’ve got someone with that kind of energy and tenacity lined up.
Don't really see it to be honest
Stuart93
13-08-2022, 07:58 PM
Reckon we need a striker who’s at the right place at the right time and can finish, kind of in the cummings mould.
A midfielder. I’m not too sure it’s just a goalscoring midfielder we need either.
And a left sided CB.
500miles
13-08-2022, 08:02 PM
Omeonga would stroll into this Hibs side. Everything we are missing in midfield. Hopefully we’ve got someone with that kind of energy and tenacity lined up.
He would get slaughtered, as would the rest of the Livi squad.
That doesn't mean they're bad players, Hibs fans just don't know what they want apart from a divine right to 3 points.
Our midfield was pretty good today, particularlysecond half when they stopped slipping or tripping over the ball. Melkersen offered nothing, and Tavares looks like he's about to do something until he's faced with a Scottish footballer hurtling at him 100mph. We look much better with Boyle and Youan either side of a striker, and Henderson is much more inventive with those options on front of him.
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 08:03 PM
He would get slaughtered, as would the rest of the Livi squad.
That doesn't mean they're bad players, Hibs fans just don't know what they want apart from a divine right to 3 points.
Our midfield was pretty good today, particularlysecond half when they stopped slipping or tripping over the ball. Melkersen offered nothing, and Tavares looks like he's about to do something until he's faced with a Scottish footballer hurtling at him 100mph. We look much better with Boyle and Youan either side of a striker, and Henderson is much more inventive with those options on front of him.
Nonsense.
Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2022, 08:04 PM
Reckon we need a striker who’s at the right place at the right time and can finish, kind of in the cummings mould.
A midfielder. I’m not too sure it’s just a goalscoring midfielder we need either.
And a left sided CB.
I’ve been insistent we need a box to box midfielder and I still believe that to be a priority. I wouldn’t dream of mentioning a second one as I’m not all that confident we’ll get the first one but we need an 8 and a 10 imo.
BoomtownHibees
13-08-2022, 08:07 PM
He would get slaughtered, as would the rest of the Livi squad.
That doesn't mean they're bad players, Hibs fans just don't know what they want apart from a divine right to 3 points.
Our midfield was pretty good today, particularlysecond half when they stopped slipping or tripping over the ball. Melkersen offered nothing, and Tavares looks like he's about to do something until he's faced with a Scottish footballer hurtling at him 100mph. We look much better with Boyle and Youan either side of a striker, and Henderson is much more inventive with those options on front of him.
Our midfield was nowhere near good today imo
MrSmith
13-08-2022, 08:22 PM
For me, it feels like our recruitment is on par with American Football and their draught set-up but I do think ours is a cluster-f*** scattergun approach that is not working. Stats are one thing but the reality of our situation is there to be seen and reminds of this saying - "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
MWHIBBIES
13-08-2022, 08:23 PM
For me, it feels like our recruitment is on par with American Football and their draught set-up but I do think ours is a cluster-f*** scattergun approach that is not working. Stats are one thing but the reality of our situation is there to be seen and reminds of this saying - "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Our recruitment this summer has clearly been different than anything we've done before. Its just been almost entirely focused on the dev team, or young unproven players. We've never done that before.
Unseen work
13-08-2022, 08:41 PM
Let’s hope Luke McCormick is a player.
Libby Hibby
13-08-2022, 08:42 PM
Let’s hope Luke McCormick is a player.
Take it he is incoming?
WhileTheChief..
13-08-2022, 10:25 PM
He would get slaughtered, as would the rest of the Livi squad.
That doesn't mean they're bad players, Hibs fans just don't know what they want apart from a divine right to 3 points.
Our midfield was pretty good today, particularlysecond half when they stopped slipping or tripping over the ball. Melkersen offered nothing, and Tavares looks like he's about to do something until he's faced with a Scottish footballer hurtling at him 100mph. We look much better with Boyle and Youan either side of a striker, and Henderson is much more inventive with those options on front of him.
Speaking for yourself there yeah?!
I rarely expect 3 points these days. I'm looking for a bit of improvement on the guff we watched last season. So far i'm seeing more of the same.
Haymaker
14-08-2022, 01:34 AM
Reckon we need a striker who’s at the right place at the right time and can finish, kind of in the cummings mould.
A midfielder. I’m not too sure it’s just a goalscoring midfielder we need either.
And a left sided CB.
Unfortunately we let Cummings go to Australia. Same as Griffiiths. Could have done with both up front so far this season.
tonyrougier123
14-08-2022, 02:11 AM
Omeonga would stroll into this Hibs side. Everything we are missing in midfield. Hopefully we’ve got someone with that kind of energy and tenacity lined up.
He’d probably walk bare feet to Easter road over broken glass if we put a bid in.
The usual naysayers be along to tell us he’s not in our league.
Absolutely the reason we went on such a good run under heckingbottom.
A wee terrier, gives you no peace.
Jack Ross never gave him a proper run in his second spell.
Since he’s went to livvy they really have shored up at the back and can no longer be considered whipping boys home or away for us.
I remember heckingbottom said Stephane omeonga was his best defender and I understood exactly what he ment by that.
jacomo
14-08-2022, 02:55 AM
He’d probably walk bare feet to Easter road over broken glass if we put a bid in.
The usual naysayers be along to tell us he’s not in our league.
Absolutely the reason we went on such a good run under heckingbottom.
A wee terrier, gives you no peace.
Jack Ross never gave him a proper run in his second spell.
Since he’s went to livvy they really have shored up at the back and can no longer be considered whipping boys home or away for us.
I remember heckingbottom said Stephane omeonga was his best defender and I understood exactly what he ment by that.
We absolutely could have signed him after his second loan spell… he was waiting for the call from Hibs, but we didn’t bother.
Ok, maybe some folk don’t rate him but if we are turning down the likes of Omeonga we have to sign someone quantifiably better. And we haven’t.
18Craig75
14-08-2022, 06:54 AM
I wonder who the 3 players LJ was alluding to in his after match interview?
Would assume Tavares as he was hooked.
Henderson for me was anonymous and it’s not the first time he’s been posted missing when the going gets tough.
Take your pick for the last one Hanlon/Cabraja/Cadden all off it and then there’s Doidge who did absolutely nothing apart from give away a goal.
It’s a bit of a worry, LJ said after the Falkirk game he’d learnt something’s as well as realising how to play on astro. Didn’t look like he’d learnt anything first 45 yesterday.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 07:11 AM
We absolutely could have signed him after his second loan spell… he was waiting for the call from Hibs, but we didn’t bother.
Ok, maybe some folk don’t rate him but if we are turning down the likes of Omeonga we have to sign someone quantifiably better. And we haven’t.
I would agree Omeonga would improve our midfield but I wouldn’t want him to sign as I still don’t think he’s good enough. As you say, we need to go out and sign better than Omeonga. We haven’t and I’m not necessarily that confident we will, but it doesn’t mean we should just settle for Omeonga imo.
Stuart93
14-08-2022, 07:54 AM
Unfortunately we let Cummings go to Australia. Same as Griffiiths. Could have done with both up front so far this season.
You need to can it with the Griffiths pish.
He’s signed for a lower league team in Oz for a reason.
Fuzzywuzzy
14-08-2022, 08:01 AM
Omeonga is a good, intelligent player. When he was here you could see the balls he was playing but who it was intended for just couldn't read the ball (note: this is option only)
Wouldn't mind if Cummings came back. We need something
Since452
14-08-2022, 08:03 AM
We absolutely could have signed him after his second loan spell… he was waiting for the call from Hibs, but we didn’t bother.
Ok, maybe some folk don’t rate him but if we are turning down the likes of Omeonga we have to sign someone quantifiably better. And we haven’t.
Omeonga shouldn't have worn a Hibs shirt again after his pathetic derby performance and I'm glad he's not at Hibs now. People have short memories. There will be calls for McNulty back next.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 08:03 AM
Omeonga is a good, intelligent player. When he was here you could see the balls he was playing but who it was intended for just couldn't read the ball (note: this is option only)
Wouldn't mind if Cummings came back. We need something
I’d consider Cummings if he was available.
On the verge of the Australia squad. He’s clearly kicked on again over there and would be worth the gamble imo as long as it wasn’t costing us a lot.
Heisenberg
14-08-2022, 08:17 AM
Omeonga shouldn't have worn a Hibs shirt again after his pathetic derby performance and I'm glad he's not at Hibs now.
Newell, Doidge and a few others should’ve been punted a long time ago on that basis.
McGruber
14-08-2022, 08:20 AM
Omeonga shouldn't have worn a Hibs shirt again after his pathetic derby performance and I'm glad he's not at Hibs now. People have short memories. There will be calls for McNulty back next.
Would you take Greg Docherty back? Was pathetic in that derby too
McGruber
14-08-2022, 08:50 AM
I’d consider Cummings if he was available.
On the verge of the Australia squad. He’s clearly kicked on again over there and would be worth the gamble imo as long as it wasn’t costing us a lot.
Doubt Cummings would come back, seems to be having a great time out there. It is what we are missing just now though (that and a centre back). We don't have a focal point up front - Youan always pulls wide, Melkerson is being played wide and Doidge is the type of player but not playing well at all. Until Nisbet is back LJ needs to figure out how to have a striker playing infront of goals. Given the budget is about done and we are needing a centre back will probably have to find a solution from what we have
xqnq1875
14-08-2022, 08:53 AM
Cb and cm badly needed
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flash
14-08-2022, 08:59 AM
We could have done a lot worse than sign the likes of Livi’s Obileye or Lamie from Motherwell in the summer. Pretty much bang average CBs but if we simply asked them to do the basics they would do a better job than what we have. Even for a season.
Hanlon being totally useless today was so sadly inevitable.
They really wouldn't.
GordonHFC
14-08-2022, 09:00 AM
Cb and cm badly needed
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Yep. If yesterday told those in charge anything its that we desperately need quality in both of those areas. Not that it should come as a surprise to anyone.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 09:03 AM
Yep. If yesterday told those in charge anything its that we desperately need quality in both of those areas. Not that it should come as a surprise to anyone.
To be fair I think most games we’ve played have told them that yet here we are, still waiting.
Since452
14-08-2022, 09:04 AM
The world has gone mad if we're wanting the likes of Omeonga and Cummings back. Nobody, unless I've missed it, mentions Omeonga as a possible transfer until we play Livingston. Usually in the aftermath of a defeat. I've not heard his name mentioned once since Johnson came in, until yesterday. They beat us 2-1 and suddenly Omeonga is the magical player we're missing. Jesus wept. Where did he go in the second half yesterday when we were dominating? And Cummings? What on earth has he done to warrant a move back to Hibs?
Heisenberg
14-08-2022, 09:07 AM
Notice in the Scotsman they are downplaying the move for McCormick. Sounds like we need to get some more cash.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-reaction-mccormick-transfer-links-latest-emergency-situation-omeonga-poser-3804971
Mikey_1875
14-08-2022, 09:13 AM
Notice in the Scotsman they are downplaying the move for McCormick. Sounds like we need to get some more cash.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-reaction-mccormick-transfer-links-latest-emergency-situation-omeonga-poser-3804971
Not great, there’s a lot of money on the treatment table and most of the other players either fall into the category of essential, just signed or not good enough for anyone to take them at comparable wages.
Putting players out on loan is possibly our best bet to free up cash.
The Modfather
14-08-2022, 09:17 AM
Notice in the Scotsman they are downplaying the move for McCormick. Sounds like we need to get some more cash.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-reaction-mccormick-transfer-links-latest-emergency-situation-omeonga-poser-3804971
Good thing we found a reported £200k for the development striker though.
Libby Hibby
14-08-2022, 09:20 AM
Notice in the Scotsman they are downplaying the move for McCormick. Sounds like we need to get some more cash.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-reaction-mccormick-transfer-links-latest-emergency-situation-omeonga-poser-3804971
Mark Atkinson is a slaver, always has been, always will be.
His Yam leniencies can never be hidden when writing about Hibs.
Best ignored.
Unseen work
14-08-2022, 09:24 AM
Downplaying our cash to get him on a cheaper deal…
chippy
14-08-2022, 09:27 AM
Notice in the Scotsman they are downplaying the move for McCormick. Sounds like we need to get some more cash.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-reaction-mccormick-transfer-links-latest-emergency-situation-omeonga-poser-3804971
Crazy….one of the essential positions for the first team and we’ve spent loads on McCallister and perhaps Griger among others. Ron has to decide if he wants a Euro place this season
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 09:30 AM
The world has gone mad if we're wanting the likes of Omeonga and Cummings back. Nobody, unless I've missed it, mentions Omeonga as a possible transfer until we play Livingston. Usually in the aftermath of a defeat. I've not heard his name mentioned once since Johnson came in, until yesterday. They beat us 2-1 and suddenly Omeonga is the magical player we're missing. Jesus wept. Where did he go in the second half yesterday when we were dominating? And Cummings? What on earth has he done to warrant a move back to Hibs?
Omeonga has been mentioned quite a few times over the summer.
Cummings has done very well in Australia scoring 11 in 22 and is on the cusp of being called up to the Australia squad, so I’m not sure how it can be claimed he’s done nothing to merit a move back to Hibs. I’d take him in a heartbeat as long as it wasn’t at the expense of a CB or CM.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 09:31 AM
Crazy….one of the essential positions for the first team and we’ve spent loads on McCallister and perhaps Griger among others. Ron has to decide if he wants a Euro place this season
Yup.
Plenty have claimed that the development squad hasn’t taken away from the budget from the first team but unless they’re playing for free or being externally funded by someone who refuses to put that funding into the first team, then that’s exactly what these development signings are doing.
Stuart93
14-08-2022, 09:43 AM
Downplaying our cash to get him on a cheaper deal…
Hopefully. If there’s enough to spend a reported £200k on a development striker there should be enough cash to bring in players for essential positions in the first team
chippy
14-08-2022, 09:46 AM
Yup.
Plenty have claimed that the development squad hasn’t taken away from the budget from the first team but unless they’re playing for free or being externally funded by someone who refuses to put that funding into the first team, then that’s exactly what these development signings are doing.
What do they know? The iinternal workings of RGs brain ? His budgets? It’s a very optimistic guess at best and I can’t see any way that the overall 1st team budget isn’t impacted by the development signings/wages/ other costs. It’s all a moveable feast anyway as in the Boyle signing.
My thoughts are that they took a gamble on Melks, Hague, Youann, Kenneh, Jair. Out of that 5 only 2 look 1st team ready. Melks may well be in the near future but it’s pretty clear that Hague and Jair are not and the early signs are ,will never be. I think Johnson and Ron G may have thought that those signings would rejuvenate the squad and the likes of Newell , Campbell and JDH would be ok just now. However the league cup failure should have been the wake up call , but it seems they want to give these guys more time. It’s a huge gamble and unlikely to succeed unless as many have said we sign 3 or 4 quality players. 2 CMs for me. McCormick and Regan Henry/ Omeonga would do me plus a CB or 2 if Porto goes.
Good thing we found a reported £200k for the development striker though.
Hopefully. If there’s enough to spend a reported £200k on a development striker there should be enough cash to bring in players for essential positions in the first team
Has this actually been confirmed by the club yet, or is it still paper talk, I can't see it anywhere apart from the link in a previous post.
Stuart93
14-08-2022, 11:43 AM
Has this actually been confirmed by the club yet, or is it still paper talk, I can't see it anywhere apart from the link in a previous post.
I’ve went from paper talk aye. The club won’t confirm the fee either way so that’s all we have to go on
SHODAN
14-08-2022, 11:54 AM
We really, REALLY need some centre backs ffs.
MrSmith
14-08-2022, 12:01 PM
We really, REALLY need some centre backs ffs.
And, MIDFIELDERS!
Ronniekirk
14-08-2022, 12:10 PM
And, MIDFIELDERS!
And strikers that can score or are we back to relying solely on Boyle again A bit tongue in cheek but so far it’s looking thst way No other striker is looking like they will be scoring 15 plus goals a season so far
phoenixfire
14-08-2022, 01:29 PM
And strikers that can score or are we back to relying solely on Boyle again A bit tongue in cheek but so far it’s looking thst way No other striker is looking like they will be scoring 15 plus goals a season so far
Think we have strikers that will score goals youan, merkleson,Boyle will get a few and mcgeady and nisbet wen they return problems midfield we could do with losing two of Newell,JDH,Campbell or Henderson but which two? And then adding two new midfielders one needs to be attacking midfielder ! Think that would help us create and score goals might even help the defence too if we had a decent midfield!
Springbank
14-08-2022, 01:31 PM
The world has gone mad if we're wanting the likes of Omeonga and Cummings back. Nobody, unless I've missed it, mentions Omeonga as a possible transfer until we play Livingston. Usually in the aftermath of a defeat. I've not heard his name mentioned once since Johnson came in, until yesterday. They beat us 2-1 and suddenly Omeonga is the magical player we're missing. Jesus wept. Where did he go in the second half yesterday when we were dominating? And Cummings? What on earth has he done to warrant a move back to Hibs?
He keeps beating Hibs, that's what
CapitalGreen
14-08-2022, 01:46 PM
He keeps beating Hibs, that's what
He does, played us 3 times and won 3 times. Has an awful record against the Old Firm, Hearts and Aberdeen though - 22 games, 2 wins and 16 defeats.
supermcginn
14-08-2022, 02:23 PM
Incredibly short sighted signing by Neilson. The equivalent to us signing Jason Cummings.
Indeed
WhileTheChief..
14-08-2022, 02:24 PM
The world has gone mad if we're wanting the likes of Omeonga and Cummings back. Nobody, unless I've missed it, mentions Omeonga as a possible transfer until we play Livingston. Usually in the aftermath of a defeat. I've not heard his name mentioned once since Johnson came in, until yesterday. They beat us 2-1 and suddenly Omeonga is the magical player we're missing. Jesus wept. Where did he go in the second half yesterday when we were dominating? And Cummings? What on earth has he done to warrant a move back to Hibs?
About such an innocuous opinion? I doubt it!
Our midfield is rank. Omeonga would improve it without doubt.
And yeah, it's usually after a defeat he gets mentioned because he's on the winning side every damn time!!
Libby Hibby
14-08-2022, 02:25 PM
And, MIDFIELDERS!
F*** it…and a Goalie 😂😂
Joe6-2
14-08-2022, 02:27 PM
To be fair I think most games we’ve played have told them that yet here we are, still waiting.
How true this is
Since452
14-08-2022, 02:29 PM
About such an innocuous opinion? I doubt it!
Our midfield is rank. Omeonga would improve it without doubt.
And yeah, it's usually after a defeat he gets mentioned because he's on the winning side every damn time!!
Omeonga wasn't the reason we lost yesterday.
badabing67
14-08-2022, 02:39 PM
He’d probably walk bare feet to Easter road over broken glass if we put a bid in.
The usual naysayers be along to tell us he’s not in our league.
Absolutely the reason we went on such a good run under heckingbottom.
A wee terrier, gives you no peace.
Jack Ross never gave him a proper run in his second spell.
Since he’s went to livvy they really have shored up at the back and can no longer be considered whipping boys home or away for us.
I remember heckingbottom said Stephane omeonga was his best defender and I understood exactly what he meant by that.
I am sure before the end of the last summer transfer window, in a interview. Jack Ross was asked about about incoming players for the end of the window and the lack of movement. He said more or less that there was nothing on the table, they had been offered players but there was no point making signings just for the sake of it. That was just days before Omeonga signed for Livi. The club must of been aware of Omeonga's availability especially as Mathie was still at the club at the time and I think he was a fan. When Omeonga signed for Livi i couldn't believe it. Knowing he would of wanted to come to Hibs. So could only assume Jack Ross didn't fancy him. FWIW I think Omeonga would be a better option in the middle than Newell or JDH
bigwheel
14-08-2022, 02:41 PM
I am sure before the end of the last summer transfer window, in a interview. Jack Ross was asked about about incoming players for the end of the window and the lack of movement. He said more or less that there was nothing on the table, they had been offered players but there was no point making signings just for the sake of it. That was just days before Omeonga signed for Livi. The club must of been aware of Omeonga's availability especially as Mathie was still at the club at the time and I think he was a fan. When Omeonga signed for Livi i couldn't believe it. Knowing he would of wanted to come to Hibs. So could only assume Jack Ross didn't fancy him. FWIW I think Omeonga would be a better option in the middle than Newell or JDH
Jack didn’t seem to fancy Omeonga much on his return…didn’t give him that many starts…
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LewysGot2
14-08-2022, 02:42 PM
Omeonga was the reason Cadden was quite quiet yesterday. He just didn't give him any space. Jason Holt was the reason Livi bossed the game. He was the one bit of real quality on the park.
Since452
14-08-2022, 02:48 PM
Omeonga was decent in his first loan spell, a passenger in his second. Just because Livingston beat us doesn't mean he's good enough for where we want to be. We get this all the time. Jason Cummings scores against us "we should sign him immediately", Oli Shaw scores against us, "we should never have let him go", Steven Fletcher waves his ponytail around against AZ "we should have been all over signing him". I've never known a fanbase like ours to big up ex players and knock our own.
WhileTheChief..
14-08-2022, 02:56 PM
Omeonga wasn't the reason we lost yesterday.
Agreed.
We lost because we're not a decent team yet and are a long way from it. He would help improve us though if we signed him.
badabing67
14-08-2022, 03:10 PM
Agreed.
We lost because we're not a decent team yet and are a long way from it. He would help improve us though if we signed him.
Can't see that this window but we could get him on a pre-contract in January
jacomo
14-08-2022, 03:10 PM
Omeonga wasn't the reason we lost yesterday.
Ok but he’s a player who would happily be wearing a Hibs shirt right now if we’d wanted to sign him. He was on the winning side yesterday so naturally folk will question why we didn’t sign him.
Big_Franck
14-08-2022, 03:31 PM
This is like when we play St Johnstone and some folk then want Wotherspoon back. Omeonga wouldn't improve us and we should be looking for better. The thing is, I don't trust our recruitment team to sign better.
cameronw-hfc
14-08-2022, 03:35 PM
Ok but he’s a player who would happily be wearing a Hibs shirt right now if we’d wanted to sign him. He was on the winning side yesterday so naturally folk will question why we didn’t sign him.
Whilst I'm not one to be claiming all old players should come back when they play well, Omeonga would improve that midfield. He might not be good enough to take us where we need, but he's twice the player Campbell is so having him as a squad option would be decent.
Wee man would walk to ER if he had the chance to sign as well.
Thief
14-08-2022, 03:46 PM
Omeonga and Nouble would improve us massively!
We have players we could do with moving on and are desperate for a hold up striker and a box to box midfielder.
I’m sure Livingston would be open to some negotiations involving players swaps and cash.
Definitely win win lol
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Bridge hibs
14-08-2022, 03:47 PM
This is like when we play St Johnstone and some folk then want Wotherspoon back. Omeonga wouldn't improve us and we should be looking for better. The thing is, I don't trust our recruitment team to sign better.Its the same every time we play Livingston, we get the Omeonga **** every time, he probably would improve our current midfield but then again, that wouldnt be too difficult. I watched him v the rangers and other than running about a bit he didnt contribute much else, we need better than that, and we need better than we currently have
BlackSheep
14-08-2022, 03:51 PM
A player like Omeonga, with a greater stature would be exactly what we need… right now it doesn’t seem like there are many of those kicking around hence all the shouts for a return of Omeonga.
Jack Ross missed out on getting Stephane back at hibs and Livi saw their chance, we live to rue that decision.
Bridge hibs
14-08-2022, 03:52 PM
Omeonga and Nouble would improve us massively!
We have players we could do with moving on and are desperate for a hold up striker and a box to box midfielder.
I’m sure Livingston would be open to some negotiations involving players swaps and cash.
Definitely win win lol
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah lets negotiate with Livingston for a couple of their average players in exchange for a couple of our average players so we can step up a level and be a bit more average. If thats the height of our expectations then we are ****ed 🫣
Hibby70
14-08-2022, 03:53 PM
I'd rather we gave Tait a chance than going back for Omeonga.
Hibiza
14-08-2022, 04:01 PM
Omeonga would definitely be an upgrade - so why not.
Since452
14-08-2022, 04:10 PM
Omeonga would definitely be an upgrade - so why not.
He probably would be right now. But then we'd be looking for better in January or next summer. Would be a complete waste of a signing.
Billy Whizz
14-08-2022, 04:12 PM
Omeonga would definitely be an upgrade - so why not.
He’s a great ball carrier
BoomtownHibees
14-08-2022, 04:13 PM
Surely can get better than Omeonga
Thief
14-08-2022, 04:18 PM
Yeah lets negotiate with Livingston for a couple of their average players in exchange for a couple of our average players so we can step up a level and be a bit more average. If thats the height of our expectations then we are ****ed 🫣
I don’t regard Omeonga as average and he would definitely improve our midfield. Isn’t that what it’s all about?
Granted, Nouble, I haven’t seen enough of, but imho an improvement on Christian.
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Key West
14-08-2022, 04:22 PM
Yeah lets negotiate with Livingston for a couple of their average players in exchange for a couple of our average players so we can step up a level and be a bit more average. If thats the height of our expectations then we are ****ed 🫣
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Bostonhibby
14-08-2022, 04:24 PM
Surely can get better than OmeongaI think that's been the objective since Omeonga left.
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Bridge hibs
14-08-2022, 04:30 PM
I don’t regard Omeonga as average and he would definitely improve our midfield. Isn’t that what it’s all about?
Granted, Nouble, I haven’t seen enough of, but imho an improvement on Christian.
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You dont regard Omeonga as average, thats fine, Ive seen plenty of highlights to suggest he isnt really that good, as well as his spells with us. With regards Doidge, currently I would do better than him but other than a battering ram of a forward Noubles goals to game ratio is poor and guaranteed within a game or so he would be getting the same treatment on here that Doidge gets. For balance, I would give Van Veen a shout, not prolific by any chock but a handful for defenders and chips in with goals more often than Nouble
chippy
14-08-2022, 04:30 PM
He’s a great ball carrier
That would be fine for Rugger, it’s supposed to be fitba
hibees 7062
14-08-2022, 04:33 PM
I see Stewart’s saying Hearts should move for Nouble . No brainer he said
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 04:35 PM
I see Stewart’s saying Hearts should move for Nouble . No brainer he said
He’d be a third choice striker for Hearts so for them, it maybe wouldn’t be the worst move. We need a first choice striker though and for that, he’s not good enough.
Squealing pig
14-08-2022, 04:43 PM
Best thing about omeonga was the tweet about him on a plane ,
Pay someone a decent wage and get a decent recruitment guy in
Bridge hibs
14-08-2022, 04:53 PM
Best thing about omeonga was the tweet about him on a plane ,
Pay someone a decent wage and get a decent recruitment guy inHe is a good pianist and can play Sunshine On Leith, sign him
Hibernian Verse
14-08-2022, 04:54 PM
If Omeonga was as good as he’s being made out someone better than Livi would’ve picked him him up a) when he was a free agent or b) this summer.
Stuart93
14-08-2022, 04:55 PM
How are we in a position that after signing 11/12 players we still need to sign a spine/cm & cb with two weeks remaining of the window?
HendoDelivered
14-08-2022, 04:56 PM
How are we in a position that after signing 11/12 players we still need to sign a spine/cm & cb with two weeks remaining of the window?
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Heisenberg
14-08-2022, 04:58 PM
How are we in a position that after signing 11/12 players we still need to sign a spine/cm & cb with two weeks remaining of the window?
Horrendous isn’t it? No chance we sign what we need before the end of the window either.
Stuart93
14-08-2022, 05:01 PM
Horrendous isn’t it? No chance we sign what we need before the end of the window either.
Just don’t understand it. A CM and a CB should’ve been the first position we addressed.
Kenneh, mclelland and Rocky were never fixing the problems we have there.
Billy Whizz
14-08-2022, 05:02 PM
He is a good pianist and can play Sunshine On Leith, sign him
Did you see Porto play the piano with his fingers yesterday, after the incident between the 2 of them
Bridge hibs
14-08-2022, 05:08 PM
Did you see Porto play the piano with his fingers yesterday, after the incident between the 2 of themNope, missed that one
Unseen work
14-08-2022, 05:17 PM
Newell and JDH are better than Omeonga imo.
Omeonga plays in a team that suits him perfectly, he wins the ball back quick on a dodgy surface and breaks up play.
Move him in our team and it’s a different story, the same as the previous two times he’s been here.
We need better than him.
WhileTheChief..
14-08-2022, 05:30 PM
So we're all agreed that our midfield needs better, the only disagreement is whether Omeonga is a big enough improvement.
For the love of God, why can't LJ or anyone else at the club see it? It's hugely frustrating.
We are not going to magically improve if we don't sign better players. It just won't happen. It never does.
Hopefully we some movement this week, or at least some rumours. I'll take any anything to suggest that we're still actively looking.
There's no harm in the club changing tack and signing a few established SPFL players from our competitors. Might not be the most exciting, but at least they could come in and start matches for us.
Unseen work
14-08-2022, 05:41 PM
So we're all agreed that our midfield needs better, the only disagreement is whether Omeonga is a big enough improvement.
For the love of God, why can't LJ or anyone else at the club see it? It's hugely frustrating.
We are not going to magically improve if we don't sign better players. It just won't happen. It never does.
Hopefully we some movement this week, or at least some rumours. I'll take any anything to suggest that we're still actively looking.
There's no harm in the club changing tack and signing a few established SPFL players from our competitors. Might not be the most exciting, but at least they could come in and start matches for us.
I think they know fine we’ll we need those positions.
They mentioned a couple of times it’s easier to get the younger/riskier signings done early but the more quality ones require patience and take longer as they’re often waiting themselves to see if they get a bigger/better club or their club are holding out for more money/deciding if he’s in their plans.
I think (hope) this is the case.
WhileTheChief..
14-08-2022, 06:24 PM
^^Agreed.
My concern is that I think I’ve heard both LJ and RG say they’re happy with the squad as it is?
Happy to accept I could have missed the chat about needing a midfielder and centre half. Do we know if we are looking to make these signings or are we just hoping that’s the case?
Dazzjw1875
14-08-2022, 06:34 PM
I think we're in the situation when you sign 10-11 new players they need to settle in. Plus we still have players to come back from injury that would defo improve us! Think folk forget the teams we played especially the hearts are near Full strength first 11.. agree we need AM and CB player and the guy were linked with from wimbledon looked OK especially feeekick threat which we lack... I'm annoyed we lost yesterday buy think we will have enough to be top 5 and confident we will challenge for the top 4 once it all clicks together.. but just my opinion
The Modfather
14-08-2022, 06:41 PM
He probably would be right now. But then we'd be looking for better in January or next summer. Would be a complete waste of a signing.
That’s fine, it would be sometime in 2025 when we actually get round to signing someone to replace him anyway 😀
I think Omeonga is fine, and his attributes would make him an upgrade on what we have. For the money we spend these days I’d expect better though. However given the little faith I have in Hibs’ ability to spend our money well I’m almost at the stage of copying teams like Livi. Sign a midfield that might have lesser players, but players that are athletic, willing to run ahead of the ball, compliment each other and make a midfield greater than the sum of its parts. Rather than our current approach of signing good individuals with no thought to how they all fit together and despite what the stats tell you who make our midfield less than the sum of its parts.
cameronw-hfc
14-08-2022, 07:09 PM
Personally, I think it's been a decent window. We needed a lot of work done, and realistically I think one window isnt enough time. I'd like to see us get a CB and a CM, but if we need to wait until January that's fine. I'm happy letting LJ build a team over a couple of windows before we see the full potential.
I understand the clamour for a cb and cm but we are in desparate need of a striker.
With the exception of boyle we have had game after game after game of under performance from our forwards in the last 12 months. Nisbet, doidge, gullan, wright, murphy last season and now doidge is still at it and melkersen/tavares are nowhere near first team ready. Youan is the only one who might be ok but not as a central striker, he just doesn't have the atrributes to play it well and you can already see he isn't going to score lots of goals. Someone who can drop in and hold the ball when needed, give the midfield someone to link with. Number one priority for me.
eastmainsmsh
14-08-2022, 07:16 PM
Tom Rogic available
BoltonHibee
14-08-2022, 07:17 PM
Personally, I think it's been a decent window. We needed a lot of work done, and realistically I think one window isnt enough time. I'd like to see us get a CB and a CM, but if we need to wait until January that's fine. I'm happy letting LJ build a team over a couple of windows before we see the full potential.
How can it be a decent window as yet again we do nothing or make no real progress in addressing the areas of the park we’ve needed to sort for multiple windows [emoji30]
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theonlywayisup
14-08-2022, 07:21 PM
I understand the clamour for a cb and cm but we are in desparate need of a striker.
With the exception of boyle we have had game after game after game of under performance from our forwards in the last 12 months. Nisbet, doidge, gullan, wright, murphy last season and now doidge is still at it and melkersen/tavares are nowhere near first team ready. Youan is the only one who might be ok but not as a central striker, he just doesn't have the atrributes to play it well and you can already see he isn't going to score lots of goals. Someone who can drop in and hold the ball when needed, give the midfield someone to link with. Number one priority for me.
Sorry, with respect, but I think that is so wrong. We could have Harry Kane playing for us and he would struggle in this Hibs team.
Number one priority is two central midfielders.
Number two priority is an experienced commanding centre half.
Number three priority is a decent right back so we can move our player of last season further forward. But harsh on Miller maybe.
Central striker only after the above is sorted IMO.
Jones28
14-08-2022, 07:23 PM
How are we in a position that after signing 11/12 players we still need to sign a spine/cm & cb with two weeks remaining of the window?
I’m starting to become a bit concerned now. Development team signings are fine but there has to be some balance. We need a big striker, a box to box midfielder and now I think we need a centre half as well. I also would suggest we need a left sided midfielder if Mitchell is going to be as crocked as it would seem he’s going to be.
MWHIBBIES
14-08-2022, 07:37 PM
I understand the clamour for a cb and cm but we are in desparate need of a striker.
With the exception of boyle we have had game after game after game of under performance from our forwards in the last 12 months. Nisbet, doidge, gullan, wright, murphy last season and now doidge is still at it and melkersen/tavares are nowhere near first team ready. Youan is the only one who might be ok but not as a central striker, he just doesn't have the atrributes to play it well and you can already see he isn't going to score lots of goals. Someone who can drop in and hold the ball when needed, give the midfield someone to link with. Number one priority for me.
We have 5, there is no way we sign another one without players moving on, and they wont.
We should change the formation to suit the forwards we do have.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 07:41 PM
Personally, I think it's been a decent window. We needed a lot of work done, and realistically I think one window isnt enough time. I'd like to see us get a CB and a CM, but if we need to wait until January that's fine. I'm happy letting LJ build a team over a couple of windows before we see the full potential.
I don’t see how the window can be described as anything close to decent when we haven’t done anything to address the glaring issues we had before the window opened.
If we don’t do something about CM and CB before January then it won’t be fine, it’ll be bottom 6 and most likely out of the running for Europe.
CapitalGreen
14-08-2022, 07:56 PM
Sorry, with respect, but I think that is so wrong. We could have Harry Kane playing for us and he would struggle in this Hibs team.
Number one priority is two central midfielders.
Number two priority is an experienced commanding centre half.
Number three priority is a decent right back so we can move our player of last season further forward. But harsh on Miller maybe.
Central striker only after the above is sorted IMO.
Yup. Take 2018 for example - during the first half of the year Kamberi and McLaren looked like our best partnership since Riordan and O’Connor when we had McGinn, Allan and McGeouch as our midfield. The second half of the year they looked a shadow of the previous season when we had a midfield of Milligan, Mallan and Slivka. Sort the midfield and everything else will look much better.
LeithMike
14-08-2022, 07:56 PM
Newell and JDH are better than Omeonga imo.
Omeonga plays in a team that suits him perfectly, he wins the ball back quick on a dodgy surface and breaks up play.
Move him in our team and it’s a different story, the same as the previous two times he’s been here.
We need better than him.You are not wanting to sign Zico as a box to box midfielder. You want a good touch and the ability to drive with the ball. Goals are a bonus. Omeonga is very good at that. Yes he had a poor Derby a couple of years ago but he never hid like the rest of the midfield. Omeonga is exactly what Hibs need and at least we know his qualities. Or do we want another guy signed on the back of some video footage?
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Unseen work
14-08-2022, 08:03 PM
You are not wanting to sign Zico as a box to box midfielder. You want a good touch and the ability to drive with the ball. Goals are a bonus. Omeonga is very good at that. Yes he had a poor Derby a couple of years ago but he never hid like the rest of the midfield. Omeonga is exactly what Hibs need and at least we know his qualities. Or do we want another guy signed on the back of some video footage?
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I disagree about Newell, JDH etc hiding. They have had bad games, they’ve also had really good games but I’d never say they hide. The issue for me is them having nothing to hit in front of them, especially last season.
Omeonga is a lot of things but a player with a good touch isn’t a way I’d describe him.
I don’t think he’s what we need at all. Either a box to box midfielder or a reallt creative and quality number 10. Don’t think him coming in would change any of our problems.
We have 5, there is no way we sign another one without players moving on, and they wont.
We should change the formation to suit the forwards we do have.
Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. I would say we have 1 fit, first team striker that can play that position in doidge and he is well off form. Nisbet out til xmas, youan is not a lone striker, the other 2 are (or should be) development team players.
MWHIBBIES
14-08-2022, 08:14 PM
Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. I would say we have 1 fit, first team striker that can play that position in doidge and he is well off form. Nisbet out til xmas, youan is not a lone striker, the other 2 are (or should be) development team players.
Melkersen, Doidge, Youan, Nisbet and Bojang are all strikers. Our only option is to get the best out of them. Nisbet especially could be massive if we can get him fit and firing.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 08:19 PM
Does anyone remember Omeongas performance in his last game for Hibs? Horrific doesn't cover it. Not what is needed imo.
Sorry, with respect, but I think that is so wrong. We could have Harry Kane playing for us and he would struggle in this Hibs team.
Number one priority is two central midfielders.
Number two priority is an experienced commanding centre half.
Number three priority is a decent right back so we can move our player of last season further forward. But harsh on Miller maybe.
Central striker only after the above is sorted IMO.
I'm sure Kane would do ok.
I guess what I'm saying is if i had the chance to upgrade one of hanlon, henderson or doidge i think upgrading doidge would have the biggest impact on the team. I don't disagree that we could be doing with all 3.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 08:20 PM
I'm sure Kane would do ok.
I guess what I'm saying is if i had the chance to upgrade one of hanlon, henderson or doidge i think upgrading doidge would have the biggest impact on the team. I don't disagree that we could be doing with all 3.
Yep think Harry would improve us a little :greengrin
Melkersen, Doidge, Youan, Nisbet and Bojang are all strikers. Our only option is to get the best out of them. Nisbet especially could be massive if we can get him fit and firing.
Or accept that tavares and melkersen aren't as far along as we hoped, play youan wide and sign a striker, even if just on loan until nisbet is back next year.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 08:29 PM
Or accept that tavares and melkersen aren't as far along as we hoped, play youan wide and sign a striker, even if just on loan until nisbet is back next year.
Someone like Simms that was at Hearts would have been perfect for us this season.
LeithMike
14-08-2022, 08:30 PM
I disagree about Newell, JDH etc hiding. They have had bad games, they’ve also had really good games but I’d never say they hide. The issue for me is them having nothing to hit in front of them, especially last season.
Omeonga is a lot of things but a player with a good touch isn’t a way I’d describe him.
I don’t think he’s what we need at all. Either a box to box midfielder or a reallt creative and quality number 10. Don’t think him coming in would change any of our problems.I was meaning the rest of the Hibs midfield that night against Hearts hiding.
Newell just isn't a central midfielder for me. If anything I think he'd be better back wide on the left. I think its JDH or Kenneh for the holding position and right now I'd go with JDH. Henderson or Mcgeady for the tracking midfielder but we badly need someone to link the two.
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JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 08:32 PM
Someone like Simms that was at Hearts would have been perfect for us this season.
Hopefully Lee has someone similar lined up before the window. Usually the last few days of so EPL teams looking to loan our prospects keen on game time.
Basildon Hibs
14-08-2022, 08:45 PM
Sorry, with respect, but I think that is so wrong. We could have Harry Kane playing for us and he would struggle in this Hibs team.
Number one priority is two central midfielders.
Number two priority is an experienced commanding centre half.
Number three priority is a decent right back so we can move our player of last season further forward. But harsh on Miller maybe.
Central striker only after the above is sorted IMO.
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xqnq1875
14-08-2022, 09:16 PM
Someone like Simms that was at Hearts would have been perfect for us this season.
Spot on I think nouble would be the ideal type
Of player like that for us but can’t see us ever going for him
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JammyDoidger
14-08-2022, 09:30 PM
Sign Nouble and Obileye from Livi, jobs a good'un.
Since452
14-08-2022, 09:32 PM
Nouble is the very definition of a journeyman. 15 clubs already and only 26. A very poor return as well. I really hope we are looking at better.
wookie70
14-08-2022, 10:36 PM
We have 5, there is no way we sign another one without players moving on, and they wont.
We should change the formation to suit the forwards we do have.
We don't have any capable of playing up top on their own and being a real physical presence. Some would say Doidge was that player a while back, I wouldn't agree, but either way he is not at the races since his injury and Covid.
Not sure a No 9 is top priority but I would say it is just as important as a attack minded CM and a strong CH
Sorry, with respect, but I think that is so wrong. We could have Harry Kane playing for us and he would struggle in this Hibs team.
Number one priority is two central midfielders.
Number two priority is an experienced commanding centre half.
Number three priority is a decent right back so we can move our player of last season further forward. But harsh on Miller maybe.
Central striker only after the above is sorted IMO.
If you think we're going to bring in 5 more players then you should probably lower your expectations.
MWHIBBIES
15-08-2022, 04:47 AM
Sign Nouble and Obileye from Livi, jobs a good'un.
It's really not. Surely the many crap players we've signed from st Johnstone show that. These guys are having a good start. That's it. In the case of nouble, his career shows he'll maybe get 6 goals this season. It's a real purple patch for a poor footballer.
theonlywayisup
15-08-2022, 06:21 AM
If you think we're going to bring in 5 more players then you should probably lower your expectations.
No, to be honest, I think we'll be lucky to get anymore than one new recruit unless we move someone on. And as most seem to be on 3 year contracts that's not going to happen anytime soon. I've got zero expectations that we'll get in 5 more players.
The point I was making was that there are other areas of the team that are higher priority than getting a new striker in. Go through almost every thread on this forum in the last few weeks/months/years and it's "sort out the midfield". Yet, we've recruited in the defence and the attack, yet apart from a raw 19 year old, we've recruited no-one.
18Craig75
15-08-2022, 07:10 AM
The thing with Livi is that they’re bigger then the sum of their parts. It seems ridiculous to say Omeonga, Nouble, Obileye etc etc aren’t good enough for us, considering how often we get slapped around by Livingston. But take them out of that team and style I’m not sure they’d be what we’re looking for.
neil7908
15-08-2022, 07:12 AM
It's really not. Surely the many crap players we've signed from st Johnstone show that. These guys are having a good start. That's it. In the case of nouble, his career shows he'll maybe get 6 goals this season. It's a real purple patch for a poor footballer.
Agreed. We need reinforcements desperately but as you say, signing someone because they had a half decent game against us, and ignoring their wider career, is a very dangerous game.
loanheadhibby
15-08-2022, 07:14 AM
It's really not. Surely the many crap players we've signed from st Johnstone show that. These guys are having a good start. That's it. In the case of nouble, his career shows he'll maybe get 6 goals this season. It's a real purple patch for a poor footballer.
I tend to agree. Look at the big guy Jet. Was a star turn at Livi, went to Aberdeen and rarely heard of again. A couple of goals early season does not mean we should be rushing out to buy him.
Allant1981
15-08-2022, 07:16 AM
The thing with Livi is that they’re bigger then the sum of their parts. It seems ridiculous to say Omeonga, Nouble, Obileye etc etc aren’t good enough for us, considering how often we get slapped around by Livingston. But take them out of that team and style I’m not sure they’d be what we’re looking for.
Nouble is not good enough to play for us despite scoring at the weekend, a look at his career stats tell you that, and a stronger defender would have stopped him going past, omeonga im not so sure about, he is different to what we have but would he improve us, not so sure, i have no idea about the other guy
tonyrougier123
15-08-2022, 07:28 AM
Omeonga would be the answer to our midfield issue.give them money plus a player on loan they’d snatch your hands off.
I’d like to see a strong CB come as a priority.
Nouble is the type of forward we are missing big strong laddie.We’ve added pace but we need to be moving quicker as a team,just doesn’t look right at the moment.
The midfield we have doesn’t suit the style we are trying to play.
And the defence is not protected by the midfield either causing us all sorts of issues back to front.
Omeonga and kenneh would be really keen to see how that progressed.
Newell has been pretty poor for a while now,I’m starting to think he’s just not what is needed.
It’s a conundrum this team, and with time and patience I’d like to see a manager who can make the right calls on situations like newell playing and the balance in the team as a whole, because for now we still making the same mistakes week on week we have been for a few seasons now.
Hard decisions are needed for a few first team players who are just not delivering for hibs.
I’ve seen Newell look really good playing for hibs,just don’t see enough of it.some have said he’d be better further up the park,maybe that would be a move worth seeing.
HendoDelivered
15-08-2022, 07:32 AM
Feel like signing Omeonga would be a step backwards. Folk are only fussing over him cos he’s looked good against us. If we want to be challenging for top 3/4, we need to aim higher than Stephane Omeonga. Mediocracy of the highest order.
Golden Bear
15-08-2022, 07:40 AM
Personally I think its more than a bit patronising to even assume that players will jump ship to join us at present. It's all too much of a big club/wee club mentality.
Ozyhibby
15-08-2022, 07:41 AM
Feel like signing Omeonga would be a step backwards. Folk are only fussing over him cos he’s looked good against us. If we want to be challenging for top 3/4, we need to aim higher than Stephane Omeonga. Mediocracy of the highest order.
Agree. Most midfielders in this league have a good game against us. Doesn’t mean we should sign them. While it’s clear we need an upgrade, we should still choose carefully.
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tonyrougier123
15-08-2022, 07:43 AM
Personally I think its more than a bit patronising to even assume that players will jump ship to join us at present. It's all too much of a big club/wee club mentality.
Broken glass bare foot I tell you.😉
The_Exile
15-08-2022, 07:52 AM
Agree. Most midfielders in this league have a good game against us. Doesn’t mean we should sign them. While it’s clear we need an upgrade, we should still choose carefully.
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We had a gifted midfield player in Scott Allan but outright refused to give him a run of games, which is what a player like that needs to get their eye in with timing and shape to play the passes he does. Getting rid of him, fitness issues aside, made me question what direction we’re going in with the midfield as obviously it’s not out and out creativity, so I agree with your last point there about choosing carefully but conscious we’re likely running out of options/time to make any significant upgrade.
Highwayman
15-08-2022, 07:59 AM
Would agree with other posters that Joel Nouble is currently a good fit at Livingston but he’s not what Hibs are looking for.
He’s 26 and his career before Livingston is struggling to reach low key.
JET is a good example of a player who did well at Livingston and posters on .net were punting for Hibs to take a chance on him.He went to Aberdeen,did nothing,was released and has since vanished without trace.
As a trivia footnote re.Nouble.He’s been capped for Cascadia,a country that doesn’t exist.Haven’t got a clue how he qualifies to play for them.
Greenworld
15-08-2022, 07:59 AM
Interesting comments from everyone.
We need to sign ready made players now ,we cannot sign anymore guys on the basis they MIGHT come good and make us some bucks in the future.
I keep going on about the spine of the team so far we have added one Marshall. We need another 3 although rocky is getting better by the game in my opinion .
So CB CM CF thats what's needed good solid reliable 7/8 out of 10 every week players..
These players are out there .
One other thing this 2 at the back lee johnstone is playing at times is not good for the heart and not good for the team.
Can someone take ryan p aside and ask what's wrong with him playing like he's in a daze.
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bingo70
15-08-2022, 08:02 AM
Personally I think its more than a bit patronising to even assume that players will jump ship to join us at present. It's all too much of a big club/wee club mentality.
Good post, well said.
Callum_62
15-08-2022, 08:25 AM
We had a gifted midfield player in Scott Allan but outright refused to give him a run of games, which is what a player like that needs to get their eye in with timing and shape to play the passes he does. Getting rid of him, fitness issues aside, made me question what direction we’re going in with the midfield as obviously it’s not out and out creativity, so I agree with your last point there about choosing carefully but conscious we’re likely running out of options/time to make any significant upgrade.Scott Allan was a gifted play maker - a great player to watch
He's not the same player now though
Scott Allan of 2017/18 absolutely but that's not whom we got rid off
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JimBHibees
15-08-2022, 08:47 AM
The thing with Livi is that they’re bigger then the sum of their parts. It seems ridiculous to say Omeonga, Nouble, Obileye etc etc aren’t good enough for us, considering how often we get slapped around by Livingston. But take them out of that team and style I’m not sure they’d be what we’re looking for.
Agree why don't we sign Jason Holt as well he can win a tackle and what about Montano he's good at fouling.
Paulie Walnuts
15-08-2022, 08:50 AM
Personally I think its more than a bit patronising to even assume that players will jump ship to join us at present. It's all too much of a big club/wee club mentality.
Patronising or not, there’s absolutely no doubt guys like Omeonga and Nouble would sign for us in a heartbeat.
Ozyhibby
15-08-2022, 08:53 AM
Scott Allan was a gifted play maker - a great player to watch
He's not the same player now though
Scott Allan of 2017/18 absolutely but that's not whom we got rid off
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Agree. There always fans who hark back to old players assuming nothing has changed. There are still fans out there who think Griffiths, McGeogh, Cummings are worth a shout. It’s madness.
We have a problem with our midfield and I’m as desperate as anyone that it’s fixed but we have better options than those mentioned. Every other team in the league also already has better options than those guys. If they can do it, so can we.
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Paulie Walnuts
15-08-2022, 09:00 AM
Agree. There always fans who hark back to old players assuming nothing has changed. There are still fans out there who think Griffiths, McGeogh, Cummings are worth a shout. It’s madness.
We have a problem with our midfield and I’m as desperate as anyone that it’s fixed but we have better options than those mentioned. Every other team in the league also already has better options than those guys. If they can do it, so can we.
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Cummings has done very well in Australia and has a real chance of going to the World Cup with them.
I’d agree re the other two, but I don’t think it’s that outlandish to suggest Cummings would be worth a go.
That’s not to say I think we should be going for him though.
Johnny_Leith
15-08-2022, 09:02 AM
Cummings has done very well in Australia and has a real chance of going to the World Cup with them.
I’d agree re the other two, but I don’t think it’s that outlandish to suggest Cummings would be worth a go.
That’s not to say I think we should be going for him though.
Not sure Cummings has a real chance of going to the WC? He's never even been in an Australia squad!
They'll (rightly imo) take Jmac over him, Arnold isn't going to take two poachers.
fife hfc
15-08-2022, 09:29 AM
What Nouble would bring is the abilty to hold the ball up and bring others in to play At the moment the midfielders sit deep as the prospects of the ball sticking upfront are low. Yes we need new midfielders but sonebody through the middle who can hold the ball up and bring others into play is desperately needed. Nouble would do that and as a consequence we would be a greater goal threat, even if he doesn't smash in the goals himself.
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bingo70
15-08-2022, 09:35 AM
Patronising or not, there’s absolutely no doubt guys like Omeonga and Nouble would sign for us in a heartbeat.
Are we just taking them and Livingston should be grateful for whatever scraps we throw their way?
If we think they are good enough to make us a top 4 side Livingston well within their rights to ask for more than we can afford so this suggestion we should be able to just go and take their best players doesn’t sit right with me at all.
mcfly
15-08-2022, 09:41 AM
We need a dominant centre half and a strong leader in midfield
It’s so obvious when watching hibs. We lack aggression.
The same players getting picked keep making the same mistakes. If any of us did our job like that we would be shown the door
What’s the difference for footballers. It’s their job.
h185forever
15-08-2022, 09:45 AM
I think we need a Stuart Dobbie type penalty box striker to play the way LJ wants…..someone who will get on the end of low hard crosses. Who anticipates and makes the runs.
We also need a target man for options and currently it doesn’t look like big Doidge is ready yet.
We can wait on the returning players ….and hope the season isn’t over for us by then.
I really don’t see how SO would improve us and bring better quality than the players we currently have.
His last stint I thought in games he ran about but not doing much else?? Had the odd decent game but chased shadows !
Folk moan about us not signing quality yet they want to sign him. He’s not the answer
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Paulie Walnuts
15-08-2022, 09:52 AM
Not sure Cummings has a real chance of going to the WC? He's never even been in an Australia squad!
They'll (rightly imo) take Jmac over him, Arnold isn't going to take two poachers.
There was a lot of talk about him getting called up to one of their recent squads. He might not make it, I’d suspect he probably won’t, but he’s in the conversation. He wouldn’t be in that conversation if he wasn’t playing well.
Paulie Walnuts
15-08-2022, 09:54 AM
Are we just taking them and Livingston should be grateful for whatever scraps we throw their way?
If we think they are good enough to make us a top 4 side Livingston well within their rights to ask for more than we can afford so this suggestion we should be able to just go and take their best players doesn’t sit right with me at all.
That’s a different story to the players wanting to jump ship though.
Livi wouldn’t necessarily roll over and accept it, but the post specifically mentioned the players and that they maybe wouldn’t jump ship. If Hibs and Livi done a deal, the players would jump ship in a heartbeat from Livi to Hibs.
Since452
15-08-2022, 10:15 AM
:agree: Let's let Livingston sign journymen, see how they get on against us then sign them on the basis of that. Even ones who were at the club before. Transfer policy sorted. No need for Ian or transfer committees.
chippy
15-08-2022, 10:17 AM
Agree. There always fans who hark back to old players assuming nothing has changed. There are still fans out there who think Griffiths, McGeogh, Cummings are worth a shout. It’s madness.
We have a problem with our midfield and I’m as desperate as anyone that it’s fixed but we have better options than those mentioned. Every other team in the league also already has better options than those guys. If they can do it, so can we.
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From what I’ve seen on Video and his stats in League 1, I’d take Luke McCormick. Similarly I’d take Regan Henry and to complete the transition Omeonga unless there’s better available. That 3 plus Kenneh would do me. Newell, JDH, Campbell can be squad players if they want to hang around.
theonlywayisup
15-08-2022, 10:19 AM
All this talk of Omeonga and Nouble being good enough/not good enough for us is interesting, but highlights that some teams (for example Livingston) with less resources than us seem to find it easy in building a hard-working effective team, whilst we seem to be over-complicating things by going down the path that we're going.
As has been stated before, Scottish Football is not rocket science. Outside of the Old Firm, it's pretty obvious that you need a hard working midfield that get the ball moving quickly, pace down the flanks whether that be from wingers or fullbacks, commanding centre backs who do the basics effectively and a striker who is able to convert whatever chances come their way. I see very little of that with this Hibs team.
I watched the first half unfold at Livingston and I was increasingly questioning what our players were actually trying to do. It was only when we brought on Boyle that things started to happen. We can't go another season being largely reliant on Martin Boyle. He's a starman, not superman.
allezsauzee
15-08-2022, 10:19 AM
We need a dominant centre half and a strong leader in midfield
It’s so obvious when watching hibs. We lack aggression.
The same players getting picked keep making the same mistakes. If any of us did our job like that we would be shown the door
What’s the difference for footballers. It’s their job.
This! I think we have decent options up front. especially when Nisbet is back.
SlickShoes
15-08-2022, 10:21 AM
I think the only reason people are clamouring about Nouble is because our Nouble is Doidge, who has really struggled since he got covid. He gets bullied by big defenders, he can't hold up the ball, he's struggling to defend. Before he was out injured we were better defensively at set pieces because he was there marking someone. If we are going to play with someone in that role, we need someone new.
Part of the issue is what everyone says, the midfield, when we do get the ball up front, the support coming from the midfield is poor to non existent sometimes, like we got the ball up there and we saw it multiple times on Saturday especially in the first half where the ball goes to Melkersen or Youan and they immediately have 3 players around them, there is no pass on because the midfield are ambling about at walking pace, the striker loses the ball inevitably and we all groan. Someone has to drive forward, it's infuriating when you see this happen over and over, it's like the midfield think that getting the ball to the forwards is job done.
When we get it down the wing, Cadden and Cabraja put good balls in, but in the middle you have 2 players at most, against 6/7 defenders, the midfield again is static walking around, no one is driving in to follow up, or pick the loose ball up at the edge of the box and actually take a shot.
xqnq1875
15-08-2022, 11:48 AM
Supposedly that’s us completely done now in the transfer window lee says he’s happy with the sqaud but you can definitely tell that’s a lie, Ron and the board supposedly not giving him any more funds until January or unless we sell someone within the coming week but I doubt that will happen, really disappointing and worrying considering we still need a cb, cm and a striker…
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Paulie Walnuts
15-08-2022, 11:49 AM
Supposedly that’s us completely done now in the transfer window lee says he’s happy with the sqaud but you can definitely tell that’s a lie, Ron and the board supposedly not giving him any more funds until January or unless we sell someone within the coming week but I doubt that will happen, really disappointing and worrying considering we still need a cb, cm and a striker…
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Where’s he said this?
xqnq1875
15-08-2022, 11:51 AM
Where’s he said this?
Heard a few folk saying it now all said the same thing , I’d still take it with a pinch of salt but it most likely is true
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CallumLaidlaw
15-08-2022, 11:59 AM
Heard a few folk saying it now all said the same thing , I’d still take it with a pinch of salt but it most likely is true
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RG apparently told a fan yesterday at the woman’s game we’re still after another 2.
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sleeping giant
15-08-2022, 11:59 AM
Heard a few folk saying it now all said the same thing , I’d still take it with a pinch of salt but it most likely is true
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Wtf? 🤣
Take it with a pinch of salt but most likely its true???
Did you mean to type that ?😅
Wilson
15-08-2022, 12:00 PM
RG apparently told a fan yesterday at the woman’s game we’re still after another 2.
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Maybe we're after another two women?
Dr What If?
15-08-2022, 12:07 PM
Maybe we're after another two women?
Which is also the story behind my divorce.......sorry, it was too easy :greengrin
superfurryhibby
15-08-2022, 12:07 PM
It's almost like managerial wheeling-dealing isn't a thing anymore. Of course, handing out long contracts to players is an obstacle, up to a point, but it appears that the days of managers juggling resources and having some discretion to be able manoeuvre their squads with some shrew transfer business is gone.
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