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Hibees1973
01-09-2022, 09:31 AM
Don't really get why we need another forward (McKirdy).

Understand Doidge is now away on loan. But we have Boyle, Youan, Melkersen and Bojang signed already to play upfront. Nisbet also expected to be fit in November.

Are some of the forwards we have recently signed now not deemed good enough for the first team. Or are some of them (maybe Melkersen and Bojang) now filed under the guise of 'development' and soon to be punted on loan elsewhere because we don't have the coaches the develop them ourselves.

SDavey1992
01-09-2022, 09:33 AM
Why? What If they are good enough?

The defender is obviously to cover an injury

What If the midfielder (who btw we Wernt even in the Market to sign a few days ago apparently) is very good?

Why does it matter if they are 21 or 32?

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I'm with you for this one. I'd much rather have a 21 year old international than a 30 year old journeyman jobber.

I dint think that we can forget that McKirdy will also be a decent fee. Even without him this has got to be the most we have spent on a window in our history? Got to be close to about 2m with the few hundred thousand spent here and there, as well as whatever fee we spent on Boyle.

I remember all the years when we spent nothing, we have to be somewhat realistic with what the outlay is in a single window.

SHODAN
01-09-2022, 09:33 AM
Looks like it'll be McKirdy, Galbraith and Simeu to try and rescue our season then.

One Day Soon
01-09-2022, 09:36 AM
At the start of the window did you think we would be addressing the spine of the team on the last day of the window with a 20 year old defender and a 21 year old midfielder, both on loan? Both might be good signings, or they might be raw and end up closer to being more squad depth.

There’s nothing wrong with youngsters from a higher level on loan. Others, like Aberdeen, have used that market well. Those types of signings should be to supplement the team, not a short term fix to paper over the cracks and rely on them fixing the spine of the team.


Nailed it completely.

Let's see where we are by midnight but another Groundhog Day transfer window and TDD is not what we need. I wonder what it is that seems to make us unique in who and how we sign players relative to what should be our closest competition - Aberdeen and Hearts?

The Modfather
01-09-2022, 09:37 AM
Why? What If they are good enough?

The defender is obviously to cover an injury

What If the midfielder (who btw we Wernt even in the Market to sign a few days ago apparently) is very good?

Why does it matter if they are 21 or 32?

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Waiting until the last day of the window, 5 games and a league cup group stage exit into the season to sign two short term fixes to the spine of our team doesn’t suggest we’re following any long term planning.

Hopefully it pays off, but it seems like we’ve wasted our budget to the extent we can only properly fix the striking position and are having to apply short term sticking plasters to the defence and midfield. With the long term fixes to those positions pushed out to yet another window.

Northernhibee
01-09-2022, 09:38 AM
Don't really get why we need another forward (McKirdy).

Understand Doidge is now away on loan. But we have Boyle, Youan, Melkersen and Bojang signed already to play upfront. Nisbet also expected to be fit in November.

Are some of the forwards we have recently signed now not deemed good enough for the first team. Or are some of them (maybe Melkersen and Bojang) now filed under the guise of 'development' and soon to be punted on loan elsewhere because we don't have the coaches the develop them ourselves.
Melkersen and Boujang don’t look like being at the level required for at least a season or two (if we’re being kind), we absolutely need more in IMO.

04Sauzee
01-09-2022, 09:38 AM
3 MINUTES AGO
McKirdy arrives

Swindon striker Harry McKirdy has arrived in Edinburgh ahead of completing a transfer to Hibs, according to a report.

The Scotsman claim that the 25-year old is in the capital to put the finishing touches to the deal.

Hibees1973
01-09-2022, 09:38 AM
I'm with you for this one. I'd much rather have a 21 year old international than a 30 year old journeyman jobber.

I dint think that we can forget that McKirdy will also be a decent fee. Even without him this has got to be the most we have spent on a window in our history? Got to be close to about 2m with the few hundred thousand spent here and there, as well as whatever fee we spent on Boyle.

I remember all the years when we spent nothing, we have to be somewhat realistic with what the outlay is in a single window.

Agreed.

Cannot argue that we have not spent any money.

Time will tell if they are good enough. Apart from Marshall & Boyle, I'm dubious the rest of them will even get us into the top 6.

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 09:39 AM
Nailed it completely.

Let's see where we are by midnight but another Groundhog Day transfer window and TDD is not what we need. I wonder what it is that seems to make us unique in who and how we sign players relative to what should be our closest competition - Aberdeen and Hearts?

Hearts and Aberdeen can offer better wages than us which is probably the main difference. The fact the get into Europe more consistently than us probably helps them too.

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2022, 09:39 AM
Not even just not a good signing, a disaster.

Mental. The guy is/was one of the best players in Scottish football.

I'm all for it, based purely on his ability which is all you're doing.

Answer this, why hasn't someone snapped him up? Could it be his injury record, big wages and lack of pre-season?

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 09:40 AM
Waiting until the last day of the window, 5 games and a league cup group stage exit into the season to sign two short term fixes to the spine of our team doesn’t suggest we’re following any long term planning.

Hopefully it pays off, but it seems like we’ve wasted our budget to the extent we can only properly fix the striking position and are having to apply short term sticking plasters to the defence and midfield. With the long term fixes to those positions pushed out to yet another window.

Pretty much it. These new guys are going to have a lot of pressure on them to change our fortunes.

brog
01-09-2022, 09:41 AM
Do you actually have any thoughts on Hibs or is abusing other posters your sole contribution to this forum?

Is abusing other posters worse than abusing Hibs players?

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 09:42 AM
Arbroath want Tait

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/transfer-deadline-day-live-celtic-27880601

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 09:43 AM
Is abusing other posters worse than abusing Hibs players?

Not really how a forum works is it? If we just start abusing everyone on here we may as well just shut the site down. Flash could apologise and we move on but probably won’t. Anyway this is going off topic now.

One Day Soon
01-09-2022, 09:43 AM
Hearts and Aberdeen can offer better wages than us which is probably the main difference. The fact the get into Europe more consistently than us probably helps them too.

That would justify them outbidding us for the same player. However it doesn't really explain why we are signing late and on loan, having neglected the spine of the team and after a signing/spending spree that hasn't exactly looked parsimonious.

In other words, for the first time in quite a long time it doesn't really look like money has been the problem here.

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2022, 09:43 AM
Is abusing other posters worse than abusing Hibs players?

Yup!!:greengrin

Tambo
01-09-2022, 09:44 AM
Just seen a report that the Mckirdy deal might not even go through with Hibs wanting to pay instalments with Swindon wanting the fee up front.

Lago
01-09-2022, 09:44 AM
Is abusing other posters worse than abusing Hibs players?
Bulls eye 👍

brog
01-09-2022, 09:45 AM
Waiting until the last day of the window, 5 games and a league cup group stage exit into the season to sign two short term fixes to the spine of our team doesn’t suggest we’re following any long term planning.

Hopefully it pays off, but it seems like we’ve wasted our budget to the extent we can only properly fix the striking position and are having to apply short term sticking plasters to the defence and midfield. With the long term fixes to those positions pushed out to yet another window.

Well we actually signed 2 CD's, 1 CM and 1 creative midfielder right at the start of the window. The 2 who would be 1st choices are currently injured so we're bringing in cover. Makes sense, no?

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 09:45 AM
That would justify them outbidding us for the same player. However it doesn't really explain why we are signing late and on loan, having neglected the spine of the team and after a signing/spending spree that hasn't exactly looked parsimonious.

In other words, for the first time in quite a long time it doesn't really look like money has been the problem here.

I’m not disagreeing with you here by the way. It was clear what we needed even midway through last season and it shouldn’t be left to a final day to possibly rectify it.

flash
01-09-2022, 09:48 AM
Looks like it'll be McKirdy, Galbraith and Simeu to try and rescue our season then.

And Nisbet and Magennis and Mitchell and the other new signings who are still settling in

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 09:49 AM
“We need a central attacking mid with quality

What about Robert Snodgrass?

Nah too old, legs have gone.

What about Galbraith who is young and highly rated?

Nah not played enough games”

I feel the recruitment teams pain.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 09:50 AM
Is abusing other posters worse than abusing Hibs players?

Seeing as it’s against the forum rules then yes, I’d suggest it is.

This is a forum for discussing Hibs and their players, so it stands to reason that they’ll be the centre of discussion.

flash
01-09-2022, 09:51 AM
Just seen a report that the Mckirdy deal might not even go through with Hibs wanting to pay instalments with Swindon wanting the fee up front.

Evening News say he is in Edinburgh.

NGoloGrantie
01-09-2022, 09:51 AM
Just seen a report that the Mckirdy deal might not even go through with Hibs wanting to pay instalments with Swindon wanting the fee up front.

Aye I saw the same thing. Hopefully Ron Gordon just pays up. However, I also saw an article saying that mckirdy is in edinburgh to finalise so not sure what’s happening.


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Swindonfan
01-09-2022, 09:52 AM
Looks like Harry will be a Hibee by the end of the day. As a swindon fan im gutted, genuinely. For all his mouthing off at officials and his ****housery hes exciting and he scores goals and makes goals. He goes past people. Theres a bit of derek riordan about him. A bit. Hes a player that needs some loving. Hes a bit greedy at times, but id say thats cos he wants to win. He will need to learn to shut his mouth and not get wound up, cos hes easily wound up. At stfc we now await the never heard ofs to replace him. Potentially you have got yourself a good one. I really hope he fullfills his talent in the green n white. And i look forward to seeing him totally wind up the jambos, hes gonna love that.

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 09:53 AM
Looks like Harry will be a Hibee by the end of the day. As a swindon fan im gutted, genuinely. For all his mouthing off at officials and his ****housery hes exciting and he scores goals and makes goals. He goes past people. Theres a bit of derek riordan about him. A bit. Hes a player that needs some loving. Hes a bit greedy at times, but id say thats cos he wants to win. He will need to learn to shut his mouth and not get wound up, cos hes easily wound up. At stfc we now await the never heard ofs to replace him. Potentially you have got yourself a good one. I really hope he fullfills his talent in the green n white. And i look forward to seeing him totally wind up the jambos, hes gonna love that.

Haha the never heard ofs to replace him. Feel your pain.

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2022, 09:54 AM
What I never do is post the same thing over and over again just worded slightly differently.

You kinda do when having digs at other posters :wink:

Thing is, it doesn't add to the chat really. If you find these negative posts boring or tiresome, why not just skip past them or mutter something under your breath?

Instead you get folk like me biting and the potential for arguments!!

(I'm well aware i could have just skipped past your post and taken my own advice here :greengrin)

It's going to be fun / frustrating day with numerous viewpoints being shared. Let's be chilled and courteous to one another like in the tremendous Good Morning thread :)

CapitalGreen
01-09-2022, 09:56 AM
Seeing as it’s against the forum rules then yes, I’d suggest it is.

This is a forum for discussing Hibs and their players, so it stands to reason that they’ll be the centre of discussion.

I think you would have a tough task convincing an Admin that someone calling you an “optimism vacuum” constituted abuse.

flash
01-09-2022, 09:56 AM
You kinda do when having digs at other posters :wink:

Thing is, it doesn't add to the chat really. If you find these negative posts boring or tiresome, why not just skip past them or mutter something under your breath?

Instead you get folk like me biting and the potential for arguments!!

(I'm well aware i could have just skipped past your post and taken my own advice here :greengrin)

It's going to be fun / frustrating day with numerous viewpoints being shared. Let's be chilled and courteous to one another like in the tremendous Good Morning thread :)

You are spot on. I do bite then people bite back.
Lesson learned and point taken.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 09:57 AM
I think you would have a tough task convincing an Admin that someone calling you an “optimism vacuum” constituted abuse.

Thankfully I don’t care enough to try.

WoreTheGreen
01-09-2022, 09:58 AM
Just seen Dylan Mcg at the west end which could mean absolutely nothing

Hibs90
01-09-2022, 09:58 AM
Will Ian Gordon be punted like Mathie was if this window is deemed a failure?

Scraping about on the last day trying to fill key positions. The same issues from last seasons still not been addressed, and filled with loanees for key positions, pretty grim. McKirdy seems a good signing on paper but there is a step up from L2 to SP and he’s not the same type of player that’s just left, although he will contribute a lot more than what Doidge has since his injury.

Hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat and get a bit of quality in.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 09:59 AM
Just seen Dylan Mcg at the west end which could mean absolutely nothing

I’ve seen him in Edinburgh quite a few times the last year or two. I doubt it means anything.

bigwheel
01-09-2022, 09:59 AM
Just seen Dylan Mcg at the west end which could mean absolutely nothing

Heading to Tynecastle ?

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2022, 09:59 AM
You are spot on. I do bite then people bite back.
Lesson learned and point taken.

I'm going to take my own advice too!!

Gonna be a good day where we all go, "Wow, didn't see that coming, well played Hibs" :cb:cb:cb

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 10:00 AM
Will Ian Gordon be punted like Mathie was if this window is deemed a failure?

Scraping about on the last day trying to fill key positions. The same issues from last seasons still not been addressed, and filled with loanees for key positions, pretty grim. McKirdy seems a good signing on paper but there is a step up from L2 to SP and he’s not the same type of player that’s just left, although he will contribute a lot more than what Doidge has since his injury.

Hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat and get a bit of quality in.

Depends what’s deemed a failure. By all accounts not managing to sell anyone was Mathies failure. We’ve done that this window though and in January so maybe that’s why RG thinks Ian is doing a great job?

phoenixfire
01-09-2022, 10:00 AM
“We need a central attacking mid with quality

What about Robert Snodgrass?

Nah too old, legs have gone.

What about Galbraith who is young and highly rated?

Nah not played enough games”

I feel the recruitment teams pain.

Can't really win can they? Damned if they do and damned if they don't kinda situation!!!

Dmas
01-09-2022, 10:01 AM
“We need a central attacking mid with quality

What about Robert Snodgrass?

Nah too old, legs have gone.

What about Galbraith who is young and highly rated?

Nah not played enough games”

I feel the recruitment teams pain.

It’s crazy it obviously depends on the quality but we would all love to have Dylan levitt and conor rogan in at hibs both came from epl U23 teams and done very well, why we can’t go and get someone from that level without the snobbery instead of having to battle other teams after a successful loan period somewhere else is crazy

WoreTheGreen
01-09-2022, 10:01 AM
Heading to Tynecastle ?

Nah he looked happy

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 10:02 AM
Id have taken Ramirez as a Doidge replacement btw

bigwheel
01-09-2022, 10:02 AM
Nah he looked happy

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WhileTheChief..
01-09-2022, 10:03 AM
Who's this Galbraith we're talking about? I missed it.

Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 10:03 AM
No idea if Galbraith is any good or not, just happy we are at least looking for a midfielder.


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Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 10:06 AM
Heading to Tynecastle ?

More likely a specialist physio.


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Callum_62
01-09-2022, 10:07 AM
Who's this Galbraith we're talking about? I missed it.

Ethan Galbraith - Man Utd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Galbraith

Not sure how true the link is

Craig_HFC
01-09-2022, 10:08 AM
“We need a central attacking mid with quality

What about Robert Snodgrass?

Nah too old, legs have gone.

What about Galbraith who is young and highly rated?

Nah not played enough games”

I feel the recruitment teams pain.

There is a middle ground between 'not played enough games' and 'too old, legs have gone' though isn't there.

GreenGray
01-09-2022, 10:08 AM
Looks like it'll be McKirdy, Galbraith and Simeu to try and rescue our season then.

I’m fairly happy with that tbh. Not sure what people were expecting, Obviously not great that two are loans but seems like it’s a competitive market. If we hadn’t blown the budget earlier in the window we could have maybe brought ready made players in.


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jeffers
01-09-2022, 10:09 AM
Can't really win can they? Damned if they do and damned if they don't kinda situation!!!

Disagree, there is a balance to be had. We’ve already signed two vastly experienced players and taken punts on unproven youngsters who, so far, are not working out. We need some players who aren’t either but are ready to come into the side and make an immediate improvement.

.Sean.
01-09-2022, 10:10 AM
Arbroath want Tait

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/transfer-deadline-day-live-celtic-27880601
Tait and Scott Allan. I’d have the two of them all day long before Newell and JDH

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 10:11 AM
Tait and Scott Allan. I’d have the two of them all day long before Newell and JDH

:agree:

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 10:13 AM
Tait and Scott Allan. I’d have the two of them all day long before Newell and JDHHow's Scott been doing up there so far this year?

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Callum_62
01-09-2022, 10:13 AM
Just fired this over to [email protected]

https://twitter.com/SundayChants/status/1564856643837460483?t=ooqkWErANWQtGboVSh4f7Q&s=19

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Torto7
01-09-2022, 10:17 AM
Tait and Scott Allan. I’d have the two of them all day long before Newell and JDH

Yeah and resign Dylan McGeoch. Then bring back Cummings and the sex pest. Relegation here we come. Folk on here are nostalgic over f all.

Spudster
01-09-2022, 10:18 AM
Reading up on Galbraith he just sounds like Kenneh tbh

CapitalGreen
01-09-2022, 10:19 AM
Reading up on Galbraith he just sounds like Kenneh tbh

I’m not sure what you’ve been reading but he’s a completely different type of player to Kenneh.

Dalianwanda
01-09-2022, 10:21 AM
There is a middle ground between 'not played enough games' and 'too old, legs have gone' though isn't there.

You would think, but not according to so many on here

GreenGray
01-09-2022, 10:21 AM
Reading up on Galbraith he just sounds like Kenneh tbh

Link?


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chippy
01-09-2022, 10:24 AM
Reading up on Galbraith he just sounds like Kenneh tbh

Have a look at his video reel. Different creative type, can dribble but not an AM more a CM

Spudster
01-09-2022, 10:25 AM
Link?

https://mufclatest.com/ethan-galbraith-one-to-watch-the-future-for-manchester-uniteds-midfield/
Defensive midfielder who can chip in with goals. Not a slight on him (or Kenneh) just seems odd to me that we sign two similar sounding players from the same level when one already isn't getting a game.

Spudster
01-09-2022, 10:25 AM
Have a look at his video reel. Different creative type, can dribble but not an AM more a CM

Will check it out cheers

Dalianwanda
01-09-2022, 10:26 AM
More like business as usual and therefore not what is required.

How do you know he's not whats required? Where do you see his strengths & whats letting him down that makes him not for us?

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 10:28 AM
Reading up on Galbraith he just sounds like Kenneh tbh

I think he looks very similar to Levitt and has had a similar career to date, most on here we’re desperate for Levitt after a successful loan.

I’ll be happy with him if we get him, for all we know he could be a backup option whilst we try get someone else.

GreenGray
01-09-2022, 10:32 AM
https://mufclatest.com/ethan-galbraith-one-to-watch-the-future-for-manchester-uniteds-midfield/
Defensive midfielder who can chip in with goals. Not a slight on him (or Kenneh) just seems odd to me that we sign two similar sounding players from the same level when one already isn't getting a game.

A midfielder who can score is good enough for me.


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Callum_62
01-09-2022, 10:34 AM
https://therealefl.co.uk/2022/09/01/exclusive-mckirdy-move-in-the-balance/

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Winston Ingram
01-09-2022, 10:38 AM
Don't really get why we need another forward (McKirdy).

Understand Doidge is now away on loan. But we have Boyle, Youan, Melkersen and Bojang signed already to play upfront. Nisbet also expected to be fit in November.

Are some of the forwards we have recently signed now not deemed good enough for the first team. Or are some of them (maybe Melkersen and Bojang) now filed under the guise of 'development' and soon to be punted on loan elsewhere because we don't have the coaches the develop them ourselves.

Bar Boyle, who's far better playing wide, none of them has demonstrated that they're good enough?

Hibernian Verse
01-09-2022, 10:40 AM
Bar Boyle, who's far better playing wide, none of them has demonstrated that they're good enough?

Not even Youan who has 3 assists in 5 games?

basehibby
01-09-2022, 10:41 AM
Do you actually have any thoughts on Hibs or is abusing other posters your sole contribution to this forum?

He's bang on though. The amount of determinedly miserable doom mongers on here is painful. No objectivity - everything's a disaster. So he points out the obvious and now he's a baddie for hurting their poor wee feelings???

Winston Ingram
01-09-2022, 10:50 AM
Not even Youan who has 3 assists in 5 games?

He's not scored yet nor has he looked like scoring. He's had some good moments but he's done nothing to suggest we should solely be relying on him. Melkersen still doesn't look ready, don't get me started on Bojang.

As for Nisbet, he's not going to be back until Christmas and even then, he was utterly appalling for his previous 14 months.

Hibby Kay-Yay
01-09-2022, 10:53 AM
Are folk forgetting the players we were close to signing but it never materialised for whatever reason. There was the South American defender, a midfielder from Australia to name a couple.

Hibs have been trying to address theee areas but it looks like the deals fell through. This happens. Let’s not just accuse Hibs of sitting on their chorus and verse u til TDD to fill these positions.

Going with our last performance, I’d rather have new faces in (wherever they come from) just to see what impact they have on our play. Rather than just fielding the same folk as before.

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 10:53 AM
Are folk forgetting the players we were close to signing but it never materialised for whatever reason. There was the South American defender, a midfielder from Australia to name a couple.

Hibs have been trying to address theee areas but it looks like the deals fell through. This happens. Let’s not just accuse Hibs of sitting on their chorus and verse u til TDD to fill these positions.

Going with our last performance, I’d rather have new faces in (wherever they come from) just to see what impact they have on our play. Rather than just fielding the same folk as before.

Oi, a common sense and understanding approach will not be tolerated!

McGruber
01-09-2022, 10:53 AM
Record saying Galbraith interest has died.

I wouldn't count on anything, even McKirdy until it's over the line.

MrRobot
01-09-2022, 10:57 AM
Not even Youan who has 3 assists in 5 games?

Boyle and Youan are better suited as the wide players of a front 3 it seems. From the video posted, it looks like McKirdy will slot perfectly into that middle position.

Boyle, McKirdy and Youan as a front 3 looks really promising.

flash
01-09-2022, 11:00 AM
Record saying Galbraith interest has died.

I wouldn't count on anything, even McKirdy until it's over the line.

I can't find the Record saying this. You got a link please.

Cuikyhibs
01-09-2022, 11:02 AM
Boyle and Youan are better suited as the wide players of a front 3 it seems. From the video posted, it looks like McKirdy will slot perfectly into that middle position.

Boyle, McKirdy and Youan as a front 3 looks really promising.

think it will be a fluid front three, could end up being a nightmare to mark against:agree:

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 11:02 AM
He's bang on though. The amount of determinedly miserable doom mongers on here is painful. No objectivity - everything's a disaster. So he points out the obvious and now he's a baddie for hurting their poor wee feelings???

Again, you can scroll past posts without throwing insults at folk. Just as the doom and gloomers don’t need to comment on threads with a positive outlook if they don’t agree. we don’t need to be personally insulting each other.

JimBHibees
01-09-2022, 11:07 AM
Again, you can scroll past posts without throwing insults at folk. Just as the doom and gloomers don’t need to comment on threads with a positive outlook if they don’t agree. we don’t need to be personally insulting each other.

Not about personal insults at all rather than finding it relentlessly negative to be slating every aspect of the club. There is a balance.

h1bs4life
01-09-2022, 11:07 AM
Hopefully we get some players that Lee Johnson wants doesn’t matter if loan or permanent.
Suspect it’s easier to get younger players in at the start of the transfer window experienced players will be hanging on waiting for the best deals .
Loans as well , loaning club will be wanting percentage of players wages covered .
We have a bloated squad as shown with Doidge going on loan , we still have a hangover from Ross , signing McGennis , contracts extension to Newell , injured at the time Doidge , Doyle-Hayes , Campbell , Hanlon and Stevenson.
Could argue none of the above are good enough and are no doubt take a good bit out of the wages budget. If Johnson starts moving any more of them on I would be happy.
It’s amazing when it’s mentioned that a team that’s lost 4 of there last 5 games are looking at making a signing there are posts ‘ would be a good signing to be fair ‘

Lancs Harp
01-09-2022, 11:08 AM
Does the desdline time refer to the buying club or the selling club or both? For instance the window in England closes at 11 and the window in Scotland at 12. Does that mean a Scottish club cant sign a player from England after 11?

JammyDoidger
01-09-2022, 11:08 AM
I really worry we are signing players with no real idea of where they are going to play, even this lad Simeu, we are crying out for a left sided centre half, have been for years, he's right sided..

Mckirdy who I want btw, good player, isn't a number 9, in losing Doidge we now have no arial ability, so if the aim is getting Cadden and cabraja higg putting crosses in then what's the point, everything will need to be drilled along the deck.

Another young midfielder? We need someone that can grab the game by the scruff of the neck in midfield and dictate play, not sure this boys going to be able to do that.

It's totally scattergun and when you add all the development team signings etc, I feel we would have been better signing half of what we've signed with more proven quality that will make a difference now.

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 11:09 AM
Does the desdline time refer to the buying club or the selling club or both? For instance the window in England closes at 11 and the window in Scotland at 12. Does that mean a Scottish club cant sign a player from England after 11?We can buy from Anywhere until midnight

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xqnq1875
01-09-2022, 11:09 AM
I can't find the Record saying this. You got a link please.

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JimBHibees
01-09-2022, 11:10 AM
Hopefully we get some players that Lee Johnson wants doesn’t matter if loan or permanent.
Suspect it’s easier to get younger players in at the start of the transfer window experienced players will be hanging on waiting for the best deals .
Loans as well , loaning club will be wanting percentage of players wages covered .
We have a bloated squad as shown with Doidge going on loan , we still have a hangover from Ross , signing McGennis , contracts extension to Newell , injured at the time Doidge , Doyle-Hayes , Campbell , Hanlon and Stevenson.
Could argue none of the above are good enough and are no doubt take a good bit out of the wages budget. If Johnson starts moving any more of them on I would be happy.
It’s amazing when it’s mentioned that a team that’s lost 4 of there last 5 games are looking at making a signing there are posts ‘ would be a good signing to be fair ‘

Totally agree hope he gets a few in he wants. He seemed to use EPL loans well when at Sunderland and assume he has decent contacts at big clubs. Proof will of course be in the pudding. Would like to see a few more leave also as need something of an overhaul in certain areas.

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01-09-2022, 11:10 AM
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BlackSheep
01-09-2022, 11:10 AM
I can't find the Record saying this. You got a link please.

The record says "And now Manchester United youngster Ethan Galbraith is being tipped for a switch to Edinburgh."

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 11:11 AM
Not about personal insults at all rather than finding it relentlessly negative to be slating every aspect of the club. There is a balance.

We aren’t performing well at the moment and haven’t for a year or so. It’s likely folk are going to be negative about a few things. Agree there is a balance.

DH1875
01-09-2022, 11:11 AM
He's not scored yet nor has he looked like scoring. He's had some good moments but he's done nothing to suggest we should solely be relying on him. Melkersen still doesn't look ready, don't get me started on Bojang.

As for Nisbet, he's not going to be back until Christmas and even then, he was utterly appalling for his previous 14 months.

Melkersen hasn't been played enough through the middle this season though.

Hibernian Verse
01-09-2022, 11:12 AM
I can imagine we’re already moving on to another midfield target


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Yep. Hopefully it's a good sign in that we have been offered someone better.

JimBHibees
01-09-2022, 11:13 AM
We aren’t performing well at the moment and haven’t for a year or so. It’s likely folk are going to be negative about a few things. Agree there is a balance.

I get that and have concerns myself but relentless scattergun slagging of everything is a bit mind numbing.

GloryGlory
01-09-2022, 11:14 AM
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20875187.hibernian-deal-swindon-town-striker-harry-mckirdy-nears-completion/

JimBHibees
01-09-2022, 11:15 AM
Are folk forgetting the players we were close to signing but it never materialised for whatever reason. There was the South American defender, a midfielder from Australia to name a couple.

Hibs have been trying to address theee areas but it looks like the deals fell through. This happens. Let’s not just accuse Hibs of sitting on their chorus and verse u til TDD to fill these positions.

Going with our last performance, I’d rather have new faces in (wherever they come from) just to see what impact they have on our play. Rather than just fielding the same folk as before.

Agree with that however when the manager outlines his concerns the club need to support him to get more out the players.

BlackSheep
01-09-2022, 11:15 AM
I'd take every story with a pinch of salt.... it seems even the same news source is contradicting itself on an hourly basis

Sergio sledge
01-09-2022, 11:19 AM
Disagree, there is a balance to be had. We’ve already signed two vastly experienced players and taken punts on unproven youngsters who, so far, are not working out. We need some players who aren’t either but are ready to come into the side and make an immediate improvement.

To be fair, if McKirdy signs then he'd go into the middle ground along with Cabraja and Boyle. You could also argue that Youan might be heading into the middle ground as well, got a decent amount of games behind him.

At least 5 of the summer signings this year don't look up to it yet and could do with some time in the development side. In an ideal world (with all being fit) I would imagine that 7 of the signings this summer so far will be starters most weeks this season (albeit that two of them were here last season). These would be Marshall, Rocky, Cabraja, Kenneh, McGeady, Boyle, Youan.

Our signings this season have been:

Inexperienced youngsters and not ready to improve 1st team: 5 - Tavares, McClelland, Henderson, Miller & Schofield (only signed as cover to be fair)
Inexperienced but making and impact or showing signs of making an impact: 3 - Rocky, Youan & Kenneh.
Experienced & will be starters: 2 - Boyle & Cabraja
Vastly experienced: 2 - Marshall & McGeady

I don't think the balance between youth/promise and experience in signings has been too far off being right it's just that we haven't really addressed the midfield issues adequately. Possibly this is due to not being able to move any of Newell, JDH or Campbell out of the squad (due to the contract extensions they all got last season).

GreenPJ
01-09-2022, 11:22 AM
Melkersen hasn't been played enough through the middle this season though.

What opportunities has he had through the middle this season?

BlackSheep
01-09-2022, 11:24 AM
To be fair, if McKirdy signs then he'd go into the middle ground along with Cabraja and Boyle. You could also argue that Youan might be heading into the middle ground as well, got a decent amount of games behind him.

At least 5 of the summer signings this year don't look up to it yet and could do with some time in the development side. In an ideal world (with all being fit) I would imagine that 7 of the signings this summer so far will be starters most weeks this season (albeit that two of them were here last season). These would be Marshall, Rocky, Cabraja, Kenneh, McGeady, Boyle, Youan.

Our signings this season have been:

Inexperienced youngsters and not ready to improve 1st team: 5 - Tavares, McClelland, Henderson, Miller & Schofield (only signed as cover to be fair)
Inexperienced but making and impact or showing signs of making an impact: 3 - Rocky, Youan & Kenneh.
Experienced & will be starters: 2 - Boyle & Cabraja
Vastly experienced: 2 - Marshall & McGeady

I don't think the balance between youth/promise and experience in signings has been too far off being right it's just that we haven't really addressed the midfield issues adequately. Possibly this is due to not being able to move any of Newell, JDH or Campbell out of the squad (due to the contract extensions they all got last season).

I think Henderson should be in the 2nd category there.... definitely showing signs of making an impact.

DH1875
01-09-2022, 11:32 AM
What opportunities has he had through the middle this season?

None, that was my point.

McGruber
01-09-2022, 11:34 AM
I can't find the Record saying this. You got a link please.

Sorry mate, can't find it again though someone put up the bit I seen already.

Goes against popular opinion but hope we get Galbraith - ideally wanted the experienced player but clearly not going to happen now and sounds a good exciting player

Winston Ingram
01-09-2022, 11:36 AM
Melkersen hasn't been played enough through the middle this season though.

Barring a half hour spell v 10 man Motherwell in the cup, he's not shown any sign that he can do this.

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 11:37 AM
I see Galbraith is out of contract next summer, wonder if it’s a years loan which turns into a permanent transfer?

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2022, 11:40 AM
At least we're getting rumours, that's something. I'll be happy if several names get thrown around so long as we get 2 or 3 in.

It would be way worse if Twitter was saying all our biz was done!

Had a quick look on kickback, if you think we're moaning faced buggers on here, go check their transfer thread!

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 11:42 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-club-working-on-harry-mckirdy-deal-contact-made-over-dynel-simeu-easter-road-exits-3827300

Look like no midfield reinforcements expected

It is understood that Hibs are not seeking midfield reinforcements despite reported interest in Ethan Galbraith of Manchester United. The Northern Ireland internationalist was on Hibs’ radar earlier this summer but

Kyle Magennis is making good progress in his comeback bid and hasn’t experienced any pain since returning to training while Lee Johnson is unlikely to play Josh Campbell, Jake Doyle-Hayes, and Joe Newell as a midfield combination again, having kept faith in the trio after the 2-2 draw with Rangers for the 1-0 defeat at St Mirren.

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Heisenberg
01-09-2022, 11:42 AM
I see Galbraith is out of contract next summer, wonder if it’s a years loan which turns into a permanent transfer?

I wouldn’t get your hopes up

https://t.co/jNG6JwYVQK

Hibee Daft
01-09-2022, 11:43 AM
At least we're getting rumours, that's something. I'll be happy if several names get thrown around so long as we get 2 or 3 in.

It would be way worse if Twitter was saying all our biz was done!

Had a quick look on kickback, if you think we're moaning faced buggers on here, go check their transfer thread!

The penny has finally dropped for them how lucky theyve been with injuries. If Mckay, Shankland or Gordon gets injured they are very close to another relegation imo.

ian cruise
01-09-2022, 11:43 AM
Barring a half hour spell v 10 man Motherwell in the cup, he's not shown any sign that he can do this.

He was starved of service last season, we now have Boyle and Youan getting balls in to the box. Definitely worth giving him a run to see if Motherwell was a fluke. Those two goals were enough to convince me there's something there if we get the supply to him from midfield.

04Sauzee
01-09-2022, 11:44 AM
Patrick McPartlin reporting that Hibs aren't looking for any midfield reinforcements, showed interest in Galbraith earlier in the window but not something we are pursuing

AugustaHibs
01-09-2022, 11:45 AM
People need to lay off on the Ian gordon abuse, he’s clearly blind.

Eaststand
01-09-2022, 11:45 AM
He's bang on though. The amount of determinedly miserable doom mongers on here is painful. No objectivity - everything's a disaster. So he points out the obvious and now he's a baddie for hurting their poor wee feelings???

Good Post this 👍

GGTTH

SteveHFC
01-09-2022, 11:46 AM
Patrick McPartlin reporting that Hibs aren't looking for any midfield reinforcements, showed interest in Galbraith earlier in the window but not something we are pursuing

We’re gonna have to start Newell, JDH and Campbell in the same midfield again.

CentreForward
01-09-2022, 11:47 AM
Looking at a lot of comments from Man Utd fans below one of Galbraith’s videos on YouTube and they all seem to really rate him. Said he played in a 3 with Levitt and Garner and he was the best of the 3. Sounds promising but doesn’t seem certain that any move for him will happen.

Edit: now looking at posts above doesn’t look likely at all. Really don’t how we can seem happy with that midfield and seems a bit worrying that we are relying on Magennis coming back very good player as he is.

S4uzee
01-09-2022, 11:48 AM
We’re gonna have to start Newell, JDH and Campbell in the same midfield again.

Not good for our health seeing them 3 on the team sheet then having to watch them for 90 minutes

GloryGlory
01-09-2022, 11:48 AM
Patrick McPartlin reporting that Hibs aren't looking for any midfield reinforcements, showed interest in Galbraith earlier in the window but not something we are pursuing

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-club-working-on-harry-mckirdy-deal-contact-made-over-dynel-simeu-easter-road-exits-3827300

Looks like the midfield eggs are being placed in the basket of a fully fit Magennis. What could possibly go wrong?

Simeu just one of a few defensive options being considered.

Alex Trager
01-09-2022, 11:50 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-club-working-on-harry-mckirdy-deal-contact-made-over-dynel-simeu-easter-road-exits-3827300

Looks like the midfield eggs are being placed in the basket of a fully fit Magennis. What could possibly go wrong?

Simeu just one of a few defensive options being considered.

Strap in folks.

It’s going to be messy.

One Day Soon
01-09-2022, 11:51 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-club-working-on-harry-mckirdy-deal-contact-made-over-dynel-simeu-easter-road-exits-3827300

Looks like the midfield eggs are being placed in the basket of a fully fit Magennis. What could possibly go wrong?

Simeu just one of a few defensive options being considered.


That HAS to be misdirection for public consumption while trying to land someone without being held over a barrel.

No-one in their right mind - no-one - could believe we are fine in midfield.

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2022, 11:52 AM
Patrick McPartlin reporting that Hibs aren't looking for any midfield reinforcements, showed interest in Galbraith earlier in the window but not something we are pursuing

That's the worst possible rumour to come across :grr:

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 11:53 AM
He's bang on though. The amount of determinedly miserable doom mongers on here is painful. No objectivity - everything's a disaster. So he points out the obvious and now he's a baddie for hurting their poor wee feelings???

There is objectivity, I posted about how good a signing Martin Boyle was, I posted about how well josh campbell had done against Rangers, I’ve posted about how good a signing David Marshall is, I’ve posted about how good a job we’ve done commercially, I’ve posted about how I think Youan looks a good player.

So when you say he’s bang on or that I’m making everything out to be a disaster, that’s simply not the case and is nonsense. The things I’m making out to be a disaster, have pretty much been disasters imo. I’ve gave praise where I feel it’s due and to suggest I’ve not is simply a load of crap to enable folk like yourself and others to continue to roam about moaning about and having a go at other posters for having a different opinion to you.

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 11:53 AM
Just wait until Tait goes out on loan too [emoji51][emoji3545]

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Chorley Hibee
01-09-2022, 11:54 AM
That HAS to be misdirection for public consumption while trying to land someone without being held over a barrel.

No-one in their right mind - no-one - could believe we are fine in midfield.

Bonkers!

But nothing surprises me anymore, especially our recruitment.

You can write the season off now if we're sticking with what we have in midfield.

Hibeewilly
01-09-2022, 11:57 AM
That HAS to be misdirection for public consumption while trying to land someone without being held over a barrel.

No-one in their right mind - no-one - could believe we are fine in midfield.
Exactly......If Johnston is saying he's happy with our current midfield players we are in serious trouble. I've just been reading about what Tam McManus has been saying and he's spot on

GreenGray
01-09-2022, 11:58 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-club-working-on-harry-mckirdy-deal-contact-made-over-dynel-simeu-easter-road-exits-3827300

Look like no midfield reinforcements expected

It is understood that Hibs are not seeking midfield reinforcements despite reported interest in Ethan Galbraith of Manchester United. The Northern Ireland internationalist was on Hibs’ radar earlier this summer but

Kyle Magennis is making good progress in his comeback bid and hasn’t experienced any pain since returning to training while Lee Johnson is unlikely to play Josh Campbell, Jake Doyle-Hayes, and Joe Newell as a midfield combination again, having kept faith in the trio after the 2-2 draw with Rangers for the 1-0 defeat at St Mirren.

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Jesus Christ that’s utterly depressing hahaha, why not at least get a loan player in. It’s painfully obvious to anyone that we need a midfielder.


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Unseen work
01-09-2022, 12:02 PM
Relying on Magennis remaining fit seems absolutely mental

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 12:03 PM
Relying on Magennis remaining fit seems absolutely mental

He’s not even back yet and you’d imagine he won’t be for at least another month or two.

Even if he was a cert to be fit forever more, that’s a hell of a lot of games where we’re just rolling with it until he’s back. Then even more games while we wait for him to get up to speed.

keep the faith
01-09-2022, 12:07 PM
There is objectivity, I posted about how good a signing Martin Boyle was, I posted about how well josh campbell had done against Rangers, I’ve posted about how good a signing David Marshall is, I’ve posted about how good a job we’ve done commercially, I’ve posted about how I think Youan looks a good player.

So when you say he’s bang on or that I’m making everything out to be a disaster, that’s simply not the case and is nonsense. The things I’m making out to be a disaster, have pretty much been disasters imo. I’ve gave praise where I feel it’s due and to suggest I’ve not is simply a load of crap to enable folk like yourself and others to continue to roam about moaning about and having a go at other posters for having a different opinion to you.

I think it's the volume mate.

I'm sure you have made a positive comment along the line, but you post A LOT and the vast majority are negative saying the same things over multiple threads.

We def know your views, but it can be exhausting for those of us with different views or not so down on the club.

You are totally entitled to say what you think and good luck to you by the way. Your views are just as valid as mine but I'm just explaining why maybe your posts stick out.

Gordy M
01-09-2022, 12:08 PM
Jesus Christ that’s utterly depressing hahaha, why not at least get a loan player in. It’s painfully obvious to anyone that we need a midfielder.


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It doesnt really make sense though, his report states that LJ is UNLIKELY to play Campbell, Newell and JDH together in midfield but we are not signing anyone??. So unless Magennis is ready now, which he isnt, we will see some changes i think.

hibee-boys
01-09-2022, 12:10 PM
An ex colleague of mine, Carlisle fan, has messaged to say that Simeu would be a good signing. His opinion on McKirdy……”he’s bad news”😳😂

Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 12:14 PM
Johnson is happy with our midfield options. [emoji102]
Hope he’s enjoyed his last transfer window as Hibs manager.


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SHODAN
01-09-2022, 12:14 PM
Magennis will:

Make his first appearance end of this month/early October
Play 4/5 games ish
Get injured
Gone for another year


Nothing can convince me otherwise.

Iain G
01-09-2022, 12:15 PM
It doesnt really make sense though, his report states that LJ is UNLIKELY to play Campbell, Newell and JDH together in midfield but we are not signing anyone??. So unless Magennis is ready now, which he isnt, we will see some changes i think.

We have Kenneh, Lewis, Tait and Henderson to add into that mix, hopeful he can create something that works out of that.

Posh Swanny
01-09-2022, 12:15 PM
An ex colleague of mine, Carlisle fan, has messaged to say that Simeu would be a good signing. His opinion on McKirdy……”he’s bad news”😳😂

McKirdy and Carlisle fans have a bit of a thing going on.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/harry-mckirdy-swindon-town-carlisle-26287411

Just trying to imagine him playing for Hibs at Tynecastle. Could go one of two ways! :worried:

Heisenberg
01-09-2022, 12:21 PM
I can’t believe we’re in the position of placing all of our hopes on Magennis again. A truly ridiculous thing to do.

superfurryhibby
01-09-2022, 12:22 PM
I think it's the volume mate.

I'm sure you have made a positive comment along the line, but you post A LOT and the vast majority are negative saying the same things over multiple threads.

We def know your views, but it can be exhausting for those of us with different views or not so down on the club.

You are totally entitled to say what you think and good luck to you by the way. Your views are just as valid as mine but I'm just explaining why maybe your posts stick out.

You make some good points there. I find that the exhausting part applies equally to people who want to mock or ridicule people for not sharing their enthusiasm for all things the board does. In fact I believe there is a case for saying that this approach is probably more part of the culture of this board than the other way around.

I'm not a prolific poster and I'm largely ignored even when I do (swine). I do think it can be a bit tiresome when people keep recycling the same opinions, good, bad or indifferent. However, most thread conversations on here are done cyclically anyway, I suppose there are limits around the potential for innovative debate.

Broken Gnome
01-09-2022, 12:22 PM
Fondly remember a Calderwood/Fenlon-era January window when there was an absolute desperation prior to midnight to sign one, any striker. Think we ended up with Akpo Sodje or Junior Agogo.

Careful what you wish for obviously, but the 2022/23 midfield has similar echoes.

Musselbound
01-09-2022, 12:23 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-club-working-on-harry-mckirdy-deal-contact-made-over-dynel-simeu-easter-road-exits-3827300

Looks like the midfield eggs are being placed in the basket of a fully fit Magennis. What could possibly go wrong?

Simeu just one of a few defensive options being considered.

i keep hearing about Magennis on here as the great hope. Not saying he isn't a good player, but apart from his injury problems, I recall the period he was hitting form in the team was very short. Not sure people were raving about his early performances for Hibs? I worry that too much will be expected of him if he does get fully fit.

Iain G
01-09-2022, 12:24 PM
I can’t believe we’re in the position of placing all of our hopes on Magennis again. A truly ridiculous thing to do.

LJ was misheard by Ian Gordon when on a team bonding trip to a brewery in Ireland, what he actually said was "please put your hops in my Guinness..." :greengrin

Real Emerald
01-09-2022, 12:25 PM
I can’t believe we’re in the position of placing all of our hopes on Magennis again. A truly ridiculous thing to do.

My season ticket seat might be empty for the rest of the season as I don’t think I could drag myself to watch that midfield for another season. Fingers crossed something could still happen in the next 10 hours.

Chorley Hibee
01-09-2022, 12:26 PM
I can’t believe we’re in the position of placing all of our hopes on Magennis again. A truly ridiculous thing to do.

A guy who's barely been fit since he arrived and is months away from being up to speed.

Complete and utter negligence.

Unfortunately I can believe it, just another transfer window where Hibs have failed to address what is staring them in the face. Now we're back to scraping the barrel for the usual waifs and strays we're famous for.

This is going to get messy.

hibee-boys
01-09-2022, 12:26 PM
McKirdy and Carlisle fans have a bit of a thing going on.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/harry-mckirdy-swindon-town-carlisle-26287411

Just trying to imagine him playing for Hibs at Tynecastle. Could go one of two ways! :worried:

Ah right, that’ll explain his views then!

Not sure how the machine gun celebration would go down at Tynecastle……..but I’m happy to find out😂

Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 12:27 PM
My season ticket seat might be empty for the rest of the season as I don’t think I could drag myself to watch that midfield for another season. Fingers crossed something could still happen in the next 10 hours.

Deep down you know it’s not going to. Beginning to think RG has put Joe Newall in charge of recruitment.


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Iain G
01-09-2022, 12:29 PM
Deep down you know it’s not going to. Beginning to think RG has put Joe Newall in charge of recruitment.


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If he has we would defo have signed Nicky Clark to look after his barnet :greengrin

S4uzee
01-09-2022, 12:29 PM
IMO the midfield is the most important part of your team and no coincidence we have performed well when we’ve had a strong midfield.

SlickShoes
01-09-2022, 12:30 PM
I can’t believe we’re in the position of placing all of our hopes on Magennis again. A truly ridiculous thing to do.

I’d say that our hopes are actually being placed on the current 3

Tyler Durden
01-09-2022, 12:30 PM
Patrick McPartlin is definitely one of the most reliable reporters when it comes to Hibs transfers but this one is tough to believe. He's surely reporting what someone has told him but I just cannot believe this can be true!

Surely between Lee Johnson and Jamie McAllister they can see that we desperately need another option in midfield. They're not mugs. Surely we're gonna get McKirdy, Simieu and a midfielder.

jacomo
01-09-2022, 12:30 PM
I think it's the volume mate.

I'm sure you have made a positive comment along the line, but you post A LOT and the vast majority are negative saying the same things over multiple threads.

We def know your views, but it can be exhausting for those of us with different views or not so down on the club.

You are totally entitled to say what you think and good luck to you by the way. Your views are just as valid as mine but I'm just explaining why maybe your posts stick out.


He’s upset because binning Jack Ross for Maloney didn’t work and as an advocate for that wants to assure us all it was a good plan.

Trinity Hibee
01-09-2022, 12:32 PM
He’s upset because binning Jack Ross for Maloney didn’t work and as an advocate for that wants to assure us all it was a good plan.

Oh god not the Jack Ross debate again. There’s threads for that.

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2022, 12:33 PM
Tait and Scott Allan. I’d have the two of them all day long before Newell and JDH

Goodness no. Tait never played a minute in the top league and Allan was never ever a centre mid, even at his very best.

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 12:35 PM
The mention of not playing Newell, JDH and Campbell together is an odd one

Clearly know it’s an issue and trying to reassure fans. But if they thought that’s been the best 3 for the last 2 games it’s not saying a lot.

B.H.F.C
01-09-2022, 12:35 PM
Patrick McPartlin is definitely one of the most reliable reporters when it comes to Hibs transfers but this one is tough to believe. He's surely reporting what someone has told him but I just cannot believe this can be true!

Surely between Lee Johnson and Jamie McAllister they can see that we desperately need another option in midfield. They're not mugs. Surely we're gonna get McKirdy, Simieu and a midfielder.

I think it’s believable. We’ve had all summer to do something about it and haven’t. I can’t get my head round why we’re continuing to ignore such an obvious issue.

Torto7
01-09-2022, 12:44 PM
The clubs already bought Kenneh and Henderson for midfield. There isn't a limitless pool of money. If LJ wants a forward and CH then that's his decision. The pissing and moaning is getting on my wick.

h1bs4life
01-09-2022, 12:45 PM
McKirdy and Carlisle fans have a bit of a thing going on.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/harry-mckirdy-swindon-town-carlisle-26287411

Just trying to imagine him playing for Hibs at Tynecastle. Could go one of two ways! :worried:


Looks like he would be a good signing bit of a character.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 12:45 PM
He’s upset because binning Jack Ross for Maloney didn’t work and as an advocate for that wants to assure us all it was a good plan.

What on earth has any of that got to do with anything? :confused:

04Sauzee
01-09-2022, 12:46 PM
Jamie Borthwick tweeting Aberdeen are after Louis Moult

Tyler Durden
01-09-2022, 12:47 PM
I think it’s believable. We’ve had all summer to do something about it and haven’t. I can’t get my head round why we’re continuing to ignore such an obvious issue.

It defo is believable sadly....

I can see some logic if we've given the existing midfielders a chance and maybe other targets have fallen through so we're down to deadline loans. It's just the way of it these days, that so much business happens on TDD as the big boys figure out their squads. I can't fathom why we wouldn't want to take a loan, even if it's a bit of a punt.

I was expecting that Lee Johnson would have some targets from down south when he came in. Aside from McKirdy that hasn't really materialised for whatever reason.

LeithMike
01-09-2022, 12:54 PM
Goodness no. Tait never played a minute in the top league and Allan was never ever a centre mid, even at his very best.Scott Allan was nothing but a central midfielder but you could only accommodate him in a 3 or at the tip of a diamond.

Was it Jack Ross who tried to play him out on the left? He never had the pace for out wide.

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Since452
01-09-2022, 12:55 PM
I think it’s believable. We’ve had all summer to do something about it and haven’t. I can’t get my head round why we’re continuing to ignore such an obvious issue.

Magennis must be a baw hair away from returning. Thats the only thing i can think of. Everyone can see it's a problem area.

RMQ1967
01-09-2022, 12:59 PM
Heading to Tynecastle ?

I was at Tynecastle last night with a Killie mate - walked past him in the Killie end with his kid.

hibbyfraelibby
01-09-2022, 01:01 PM
Jamie Borthwick tweeting Aberdeen are after Louis Moult

Somebody must have mentioned an Edinburgh team were interested😉

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 01:02 PM
Magennis must be a baw hair away from returning. Thats the only thing i can think of. Everyone can see it's a problem area.

Even if he was returning next week, it would take him or anyone else for that matter from 6 to 8 weeks to even get match fit.
I don't think we have that long.

Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 01:05 PM
Magennis must be a baw hair away from returning. Thats the only thing i can think of. Everyone can see it's a problem area.

Not everyone unfortunately.


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A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 01:09 PM
Jamie Borthwick tweeting Aberdeen are after Louis Moult

Ha, more like Ted Moult (one fir us oldies) can see right through this rubbish.

GreenPJ
01-09-2022, 01:15 PM
I personally don't think Newall, JDH or Campbell are bad players but they can't play together as they are too similar . To me we should be trying Henderson at the top of the 3/5 in midfield to create the link between midfield and forward line. He is wasted not being played in the centre and deserves an opportunity to show what he can do there - you can then have a two from any 4 (Joe, JDH, Josh or Kenneh) supporting assuming Tait is unlikely to be in the picture yet.

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 01:19 PM
I personally don't think Newall, JDH or Campbell are bad players but they can't play together as they are too similar . To me we should be trying Henderson at the top of the 3/5 in midfield to create the link between midfield and forward line. He is wasted not being played in the centre and deserves an opportunity to show what he can do there - you can then have a two from any 4 (Joe, JDH, Josh or Kenneh) supporting assuming Tait is unlikely to be in the picture yet.

Sorry, but I think we need better, we need guys that can move the ball forward, who can see a pass, and also chip in with a goal or two. if that means we bring in a loan player for a season then so what, if it is used to bring a couple of the younger players along.

jeffers
01-09-2022, 01:20 PM
I personally don't think Newall, JDH or Campbell are bad players but they can't play together as they are too similar . To me we should be trying Henderson at the top of the 3/5 in midfield to create the link between midfield and forward line. He is wasted not being played in the centre and deserves an opportunity to show what he can do there - you can then have a two from any 4 (Joe, JDH, Josh or Kenneh) supporting assuming Tait is unlikely to be in the picture yet.

The bit in bold is the crux of it. Doesn’t really matter if individually they are OK/good/great players it’s been proved time and again that we don’t have a proper balance in midfield when they are together. I don’t think I’m being over dramatic by saying if Johnson persists with them it will cost him his job.

Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 01:26 PM
The bit in bold is the crux of it. Doesn’t really matter if individually they are OK/good/great players it’s been proved time and again that we don’t have a proper balance in midfield when they are together. I don’t think I’m being over dramatic by saying if Johnson persists with them it will cost him his job.

The fact the manager admits he has players he can’t play together in there but won’t replace them shows how clueless he is. He should never have admitted that even if we all can see it.
Personally think it’s nothing to do with the combination and more to do with them not being good enough but he’s thrown them under the bus anyway. Now, if Kenneh and Henderson are not fit he is going to have to play them. And Kenneh and Henderson now know one of them is getting a game no matter what as the manager has admitted the other three can’t play together. Not sure what Johnson is thinking but I doubt he’ll be here long enough for me to work it out.


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I'm_cabbaged
01-09-2022, 01:32 PM
The fact the manager admits he has players he can’t play together in there but won’t replace them shows how clueless he is. He should never have admitted that even if we all can see it.
Personally think it’s nothing to do with the combination and more to do with them not being good enough but he’s thrown them under the bus anyway. Now, if Kenneh and Henderson are not fit he is going to have to play them. And Kenneh and Henderson now know one of them is getting a game no matter what as the manager has admitted the other three can’t play together. Not sure what Johnson is thinking but I doubt he’ll be here long enough for me to work it out.


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Where did he say that?

Greenworld
01-09-2022, 01:33 PM
Even if he was returning next week, it would take him or anyone else for that matter from 6 to 8 weeks to even get match fit.
I don't think we have that long.It won't take that long he looks ripped and is already traing 3 times daily ...he will need games yes and will get them with 23s I would imagine...3 weeks should see him reaching some kind of match fitness

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JeMeSouviens
01-09-2022, 01:33 PM
Magennis must be a baw hair away from returning. Thats the only thing i can think of. Everyone can see it's a problem area.

That would be great but then he's only a 2nd baw hair from being back on the treatment table.

I expect us to sign a couple more inexperienced wingers before the window closes.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 01:35 PM
It won't take that long he looks ripped and is already traing 3 times daily ...he will need games yes and will get them with 23s I would imagine...3 weeks should see him reaching some kind of match fitness

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Is he in full training though?

It was never really clear what level of training he was expected to return to at the end of August in the statement.

If he’s back in full training then he should really be aiming to be back available within the next 3 weeks or so. If it’s just ‘back on the grass with his teammates’ and not doing anything contact wise then he may well be months away still.

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 01:37 PM
It won't take that long he looks ripped and is already traing 3 times daily ...he will need games yes and will get them with 23s I would imagine...3 weeks should see him reaching some kind of match fitness

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Not just match fitness, but back to form as well, it will take more than 3 weeks in my humble, but admire your thoughts on this.
:thumbsup:

Chorley Hibee
01-09-2022, 01:37 PM
The fact the manager admits he has players he can’t play together in there but won’t replace them shows how clueless he is. He should never have admitted that even if we all can see it.
Personally think it’s nothing to do with the combination and more to do with them not being good enough but he’s thrown them under the bus anyway. Now, if Kenneh and Henderson are not fit he is going to have to play them. And Kenneh and Henderson now know one of them is getting a game no matter what as the manager has admitted the other three can’t play together. Not sure what Johnson is thinking but I doubt he’ll be here long enough for me to work it out.


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I'll be honest, I don't think JDH, Newell, Campbell or Henderson are good enough individually or collectively.

Kenneh hasn't impressed me thus far either, but appreciate he deserves a bit more time before reaching a definitive conclusion on him.

All in all it's a very depressing situation.

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 01:39 PM
https://twitter.com/anthonyrjoseph/status/1565332547923390464?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_Q

McCarthy available for loan

Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 01:42 PM
Where did he say that?

Evening News attributing the whole article to ‘Easter road chiefs’.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220901/955f6d52ffad6cfa7f0ea664a7e3604c.jpg
It’s possible the writer got a bit creative based on the fact he doesn’t think Johnson would be stupid enough to do it but if that’s the case I’m sure Johnson will be correcting the record because it undermines him with his players if he is saying that to the press.


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A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 01:45 PM
Evening News attributing the whole article to ‘Easter road chiefs’.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220901/955f6d52ffad6cfa7f0ea664a7e3604c.jpg
It’s possible the writer got a bit creative based on the fact he doesn’t think Johnson would be stupid enough to do it but if that’s the case I’m sure Johnson will be correcting the record because it undermines him with his players if he is saying that to the press.


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Is, ‘Easter road chiefs’. someone on Hibs net?
it reads like some school kid made this up as a headline.

:greengrin

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2022, 01:46 PM
Scott Allan was nothing but a central midfielder but you could only accommodate him in a 3 or at the tip of a diamond.

Was it Jack Ross who tried to play him out on the left? He never had the pace for out wide.

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Scott Allan played as an attacking midfielder. Tip of a diamond or trio. Never played as a central midfielder for Hibs that I can really remember.

Pretty Boy
01-09-2022, 01:46 PM
It took Magennis half a season of sporadic appearance plus a pre season to get fully up to speed after his last injury. Then he got injured again after 7 games.

If we are pinning our hopes on him being back soon, hitting the ground running and staying fit then it is one hell of a gamble. Its a serious injury and 2 surgeries he is coming back from, he's not coming back at full throttle.

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 01:48 PM
https://twitter.com/anthonyrjoseph/status/1565332547923390464?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_Q

McCarthy available for loan

Perhaps he could do a job for Hibs get him in LJ or IG or whoever it is that recruits our players these days?
:greengrin

number9dream
01-09-2022, 01:49 PM
I really worry we are signing players with no real idea of where they are going to play, even this lad Simeu, we are crying out for a left sided centre half, have been for years, he's right sided..

Mckirdy who I want btw, good player, isn't a number 9, in losing Doidge we now have no arial ability, so if the aim is getting Cadden and cabraja higg putting crosses in then what's the point, everything will need to be drilled along the deck.

Another young midfielder? We need someone that can grab the game by the scruff of the neck in midfield and dictate play, not sure this boys going to be able to do that.

It's totally scattergun and when you add all the development team signings etc, I feel we would have been better signing half of what we've signed with more proven quality that will make a difference now.

Yup. We need a left-sided centre-half who is better than Hanlon. If we can't find one, I'd rather continue with our own young players as cover. We also need an AM who is better than Henderson, but it looks like we're waiting for McGeady and Magennis to recover.

Col2
01-09-2022, 01:50 PM
https://twitter.com/anthonyrjoseph/status/1565332547923390464?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_Q

McCarthy available for loan

Massive wages and assume Celtic want a club with pay them or contribute to them. By all accounts we have little or no budget left (Boyle a factor)

bingo70
01-09-2022, 01:51 PM
https://twitter.com/anthonyrjoseph/status/1565332547923390464?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_Q

McCarthy available for loan

Not the type of midfielder we’re needing IMO so I’d hope we wouldn’t be going for him.

jeffers
01-09-2022, 01:51 PM
The fact the manager admits he has players he can’t play together in there but won’t replace them shows how clueless he is. He should never have admitted that even if we all can see it.
Personally think it’s nothing to do with the combination and more to do with them not being good enough but he’s thrown them under the bus anyway. Now, if Kenneh and Henderson are not fit he is going to have to play them. And Kenneh and Henderson now know one of them is getting a game no matter what as the manager has admitted the other three can’t play together. Not sure what Johnson is thinking but I doubt he’ll be here long enough for me to work it out.


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I’m not mad on any of them personally, but think you could get away with maybe two out of the three with a good midfielder supplementing them - we did to an extent early last season when Magennis was playing. I’m sure if pressed Johnson would say what I’m saying kindly, they are too similar/doesn’t give us a proper balanced midfield when they are together rather than saying they aren’t good enough. Plus the article said he was unlikely to play them together again and while I don’t doubt he was fed that info it’s not a direct quote from Johnson.

Lago
01-09-2022, 01:51 PM
The fact the manager admits he has players he can’t play together in there but won’t replace them shows how clueless he is. He should never have admitted that even if we all can see it.
Personally think it’s nothing to do with the combination and more to do with them not being good enough but he’s thrown them under the bus anyway. Now, if Kenneh and Henderson are not fit he is going to have to play them. And Kenneh and Henderson now know one of them is getting a game no matter what as the manager has admitted the other three can’t play together. Not sure what Johnson is thinking but I doubt he’ll be here long enough for me to work it out.


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Where and when did he make that admission?
Just read the article trying to attribute it to LJ and frankly it a poor attempt.

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2022, 01:53 PM
Didn’t he win player of the year playing centre mid the season he signed with us the first time? Ran rangers ragged from there

I dunno. I know Handling played then too, but don't really think Allan was a centre mid. That was Craig, Robertson it McGeoch, then Fyvie when he came. Allan was always attacking and doing his own thing. When Fyvie signed Allan was definitely playing behind the 2 forwards.

McD
01-09-2022, 01:54 PM
I dunno. I know Handling played then too, but don't really think Allan was a centre mid. That was Craig, Robertson it McGeoch, then Fyvie when he came. Allan was always attacking and doing his own thing. When Fyvie signed Allan was definitely playing behind the 2 forwards.

👍

JohnM1875
01-09-2022, 01:55 PM
https://twitter.com/anthonyrjoseph/status/1565332547923390464?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_Q

McCarthy available for loan

Should be all over that in my opinion.

bingo70
01-09-2022, 01:57 PM
Should be all over that in my opinion.

Is he not a defensive midfielder?

Last thing we need IMO.

Dalianwanda
01-09-2022, 01:58 PM
Should be all over that in my opinion.

why?

Hibiza
01-09-2022, 01:59 PM
Ha, more like Ted Moult (one fir us oldies) can see right through this rubbish.

Forgive me my reminiscing , Ted Moult , reminded me of Bernard Matthews turkey ad " beautiful , just beautiful " . Soz , just frettiny away a half hour till midnight.

Since452
01-09-2022, 01:59 PM
I'd possibly look to loan Henderson out if it allowed us to bring another midfielder in. Didn't impress me at all last season. Looked pretty good against some lowly sides in the League cup but now looks like he's out of his depth in the league sadly. Just don't think he's good enough.

Real Emerald
01-09-2022, 02:01 PM
9 hours to go, squeaky bum time approaching.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 02:02 PM
I'd possibly look to loan Henderson out if it allowed us to bring another midfielder in. Didn't impress me at all last season. Looked pretty good against some lowly sides in the League cup but now looks like he's out of his depth in the league sadly. Just don't think he's good enough.

I’m the same if it meant us getting in similar. I still think that leaves us needing an 8 as well though.

Don’t think Henderson is at the level required.

bingo70
01-09-2022, 02:04 PM
I'd possibly look to loan Henderson out if it allowed us to bring another midfielder in. Didn't impress me at all last season. Looked pretty good against some lowly sides in the League cup but now looks like he's out of his depth in the league sadly. Just don't think he's good enough.

I think there’s a player there but we can’t be relying on him to play that attacking midfield role. He needs some time coming off the bench trying to impact games from there.

Kato
01-09-2022, 02:08 PM
Evening News attributing the whole article to ‘Easter road chiefs’.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220901/955f6d52ffad6cfa7f0ea664a7e3604c.jpg
It’s possible the writer got a bit creative based on the fact he doesn’t think Johnson would be stupid enough to do it but if that’s the case I’m sure Johnson will be correcting the record because it undermines him with his players if he is saying that to the press.


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Dalianwanda
01-09-2022, 02:09 PM
9 hours to go, squeaky bum time approaching.

Its been there for weeks

bingo70
01-09-2022, 02:10 PM
Sylvester Jasper joins Bristol Rovers on loan from Fulham.

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 02:11 PM
Forgive me my reminiscing , Ted Moult , reminded me of Bernard Matthews turkey ad " beautiful , just beautiful " . Soz , just frettiny away a half hour till midnight.

:greengrin:thumbsup::greengrin

Torto7
01-09-2022, 02:15 PM
On Henderson you either play him as a 10 in a middle three or you don't play him. He got exposed playing on the left of the front three. Bundles of talent but a lack of physicality. He'd ideally be under KM developing his body to get stronger for another year.

Ronniekirk
01-09-2022, 02:17 PM
We have Kenneh, Lewis, Tait and Henderson to add into that mix, hopeful he can create something that works out of that.

Tait is the only player he hasn’t given game time

easty
01-09-2022, 02:19 PM
On Henderson you either play him as a 10 in a middle three or you don't play him. He got exposed playing on the left of the front three. Bundles of talent but a lack of physicality. He'd ideally be under KM developing his body to get stronger for another year.

Completely agree with this. Play him centrally or dinnae play him at all.

Based on his performances this season, he’s no worthy of starting right now.

Unseen work
01-09-2022, 02:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ryanwfwa/status/1565340555315679233?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_Q

JohnM1875
01-09-2022, 02:19 PM
why?

Because he's better than any of our midfielders. Just about to turn 32 so plenty left to offer.

LeithMike
01-09-2022, 02:21 PM
Perhaps he could do a job for Hibs get him in LJ or IG or whoever it is that recruits our players these days?
:greengrin
Scott Allan played as an attacking midfielder. Tip of a diamond or trio. Never played as a central midfielder for Hibs that I can really remember.That's still central midfield though. Maybe I'm splitting hairs - couldn't figure out where you'd have him play if not in the centre.

I totally agree though that he has to be a midfield 3 or diamond 4. That's why I don't really get your position on Newell. He's not got the legs for midfield and I'm not quite sure he's skillful enough to be the attacking central midfielder.

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HibbyKeith
01-09-2022, 02:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ryanwfwa/status/1565340555315679233?s=21&t=R1EsRgUepOHL6FFCgTuI_QHere comes the bit where we mess about and another clubs jump in and hijack the deal.

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Pretty Boy
01-09-2022, 02:22 PM
If he was saying that to the press it would be in quotes.

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If it's Patrick McPartlin reporting it then it's come directly from within the club and with the blessing of the people who make these decisions.

He's this decades David Hardie when Hibs want a message 'leaked'.

The Captain....
01-09-2022, 02:27 PM
Absolute insanity that we're at this stage of the window still needing at least one CH, a midfield and a strong CF who can hold the ball up and bring others into play.

The noises about not signing a midfielder are incredible, there's a wilful ignorance of how bad we are. **** knows what they are watching cos everyone else can see what's wrong.

I hope they prove me wrong and we see some first team quality players that are demonstrably better than the absolute ***** we have masquerading as Hibs midfielders at the moment.

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A Hi-Bee
01-09-2022, 02:33 PM
Absolute insanity that we're at this stage of the window still needing at least one CH, a midfield and a strong CF who can hold the ball up and bring others into play.

The noises about not signing a midfielder are incredible, there's a wilful ignorance of how bad we are. **** knows what they are watching cos everyone else can see what's wrong.

I hope they prove me wrong and we see some first team quality players that are demonstrably better than the absolute ***** we have masquerading as Hibs midfielders at the moment.

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Smoke and mirrors it must be, Hibs are no going to say anything that alerts any other team or agents as to what the grand plan is, this one is much longer than the normal 5 year plan as this one ends in world domination (football world)

:thumbsup:

SteveHFC
01-09-2022, 02:34 PM
Will anyone else be really annoyed if we don't sign another midfielder?

Still hoping we can get in an experinced centre-back.

AugustaHibs
01-09-2022, 02:38 PM
Will anyone else be really annoyed if we don't sign another midfielder?

Still hoping we can get in an experinced centre-back.

Ehh aye. Genuinely can’t watch the season with the terrible trio.

What a waste of £400 this is seems.

SteveHFC
01-09-2022, 02:41 PM
Ehh aye. Genuinely can’t watch the season with the terrible trio.

What a waste of £400 this is seems.

https://twitter.com/ryanwfwa/status/1565340555315679233?s=21&t=yNilmQN9A-nxYOzlceDd-g

McKirdy to go down right to the wire. If we don’t end up signing him, a centre-back and a midfielder then questions have to be asked.

Alfred E Newman
01-09-2022, 02:54 PM
Will anyone else be really annoyed if we don't sign another midfielder?

Still hoping we can get in an experinced centre-back.

I honestly don't think it will make a lot of difference. The midfield is so poor that it would take a lot more that one last gasp signing to improve it.

easty
01-09-2022, 02:56 PM
I honestly don't think it will make a lot of difference. The midfield is so poor that it would take a lot more that one last gasp signing to improve it.

One good player could easily vastly improve our midfield.

Chorley Hibee
01-09-2022, 02:57 PM
I honestly don't think it will make a lot of difference. The midfield is so poor that it would take a lot more that one last gasp signing to improve it.

Agree with this.

As much as I am desperate to see an addition in there, a last gasp signing of the usual unknown quantity isn't going to make a discernable difference.

They had all summer to deal with this, yet here we are again.

bigwheel
01-09-2022, 02:59 PM
Ehh aye. Genuinely can’t watch the season with the terrible trio.

What a waste of £400 this is seems.

Hahaha. Do people really decide whether to go and watch Hibs depending on who is in the team …jeezo - fickle supporters these days …

h185forever
01-09-2022, 03:00 PM
Have any of the alleged medical for today taken place yet ?

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 03:00 PM
Hahaha. Do people really decide whether to go and watch Hibs depending on who is in the team …jeezo - fickle supporters these days …

Surely that’s a given?

When we’re good we have bigger crowds than when we’re bad. Same as every club…

SlickShoes
01-09-2022, 03:00 PM
Ehh aye. Genuinely can’t watch the season with the terrible trio.

What a waste of £400 this is seems.

What are the expectations when buying a Hibs season ticket? or any team outwith the horrible 2? You are not guaranteed a tremendous season just because you spent £400.

Lendo
01-09-2022, 03:00 PM
Will anyone else be really annoyed if we don't sign another midfielder?

Still hoping we can get in an experinced centre-back.


Ill be more ****ed off if we let Dylan Tait leave without ever being given a chance

Souter96Mac
01-09-2022, 03:01 PM
One good player could easily vastly improve our midfield.

Very true, however at this stage in the window, these good players have either been snapped up already or would require big money to lure them.

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 03:01 PM
One good player could easily vastly improve our midfield.

I think at this point, the prospect of us getting someone good in for centre midfield is slim to none.

Torto7
01-09-2022, 03:03 PM
A midfield of Kenneh, JDH/Newell/Campbell and Maggenis/Henderson is more than good enough for this level.

CallumLaidlaw
01-09-2022, 03:03 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220901/490a29ec8404d7cdbc88f6c5e55b3405.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220901/0a9d9bba7e8b33f142e84af013928e08.jpg

If true, what are hibs playing at


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Torto7
01-09-2022, 03:05 PM
McKirdy deal at risk now.That'll lead to more positivity on here.:greengrin

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2022, 03:05 PM
A midfield of Kenneh, JDH/Newell/Campbell and Maggenis/Henderson is more than good enough for this level.

Good enough for what though?

Bottom 6, absolutely, they showed that last season.

Pushing for Europe? Not a chance imo.

Souter96Mac
01-09-2022, 03:05 PM
The meltdown if the club can't agree a deal for McKirdy could be seismic

Heisenberg
01-09-2022, 03:06 PM
We are run by some incompetent folk these days.

Torto7
01-09-2022, 03:07 PM
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Negotiating. Part and parcel of football.

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01-09-2022, 03:07 PM
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They are trying to negotiate a better deal? Or the story is just someone guessing at why it's taking longer than expected. My guess would be the second option.

Broken Gnome
01-09-2022, 03:08 PM
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If the buying-Rocky-by-accident affair didn't do much for Ian Gordon, then God help him if the one stick-on deal we had falls through with Hibs even slightly suspected to be at fault.

JohnM1875
01-09-2022, 03:09 PM
Negotiating. Part and parcel of football.

Disagree. Don't verbally agree a fee, have the player travel up for a medical then try and get him on the cheap. Folk will be rightly pissed off if this falls through.

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 03:09 PM
If the buying-Rocky-by-accident affair didn't do much for Ian Gordon, then God help him if the one stick-on deal we had falls through with Hibs even slightly suspected to be at fault.Does Ian negotiate the deals? Assumed that was Ben?

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Ozyhibby
01-09-2022, 03:10 PM
Disagree. Don't verbally agree a fee, have the player travel up for a medical then try and get him on the cheap. Folk will be rightly pissed off if this falls through.

If they are not bothering fixing the midfield then I’m not fussed either way with whatever other business they have planned.


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CallumLaidlaw
01-09-2022, 03:10 PM
They are trying to negotiate a better deal? Or the story is just someone guessing at why it's taking longer than expected. My guess would be the second option.

This guy seems the Swindon version of Patrick McPartland so not so sure.


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SlickShoes
01-09-2022, 03:10 PM
Does Ian negotiate the deals? Assumed that was Ben?

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Ian does not, but if we can find something else to beat him with why not?

Broken Gnome
01-09-2022, 03:12 PM
Ian does not, but if we can find something else to beat him with why not?

Sad but true.

Torto7
01-09-2022, 03:12 PM
Disagree. Don't verbally agree a fee, have the player travel up for a medical then try and get him on the cheap. Folk will be rightly pissed off if this falls through.

I'm sure it will still go through. Hibs are just trying to bully them into a lower fee. This stuff happens to us as well.

Springbank
01-09-2022, 03:13 PM
Negotiating. Part and parcel of football.

With that kind of "bad faith *****housery, that's not negotiating (if it costs you the deal). It's hari kari

The fact it has leaked is also not normal for a negotiation

The club officials ought to be concerned

Kicked out the League Cup for poor admin

Messing up a potential signing with slightly - ahem - underhand & untrustworthy tactics, when you are a stressed buyer, who has already let doidge go & are running out of time to bring in a replacement?

None of this is good news

percy veer
01-09-2022, 03:13 PM
End up at hearts or Aberdeen

CL0762
01-09-2022, 03:14 PM
If the buying-Rocky-by-accident affair didn't do much for Ian Gordon, then God help him if the one stick-on deal we had falls through with Hibs even slightly suspected to be at fault.

Regardless of who it is, if we’re trying to talk down to a lower figure having agreed a figure yesterday and went to the trouble of flying the laddie up and giving him a medical etc it’s absolutely ****ing abysmal behaviour.

MrRobot
01-09-2022, 03:14 PM
The meltdown if the club can't agree a deal for McKirdy could be seismic

Probably by the same people who are questioning why we are even signing him.

Torto7
01-09-2022, 03:15 PM
With that kind of "bad faith *****housery, that's not negotiating (if it costs you the deal). It's hari kari

The fact it has leaked is also not normal for a negotiation

The club officials ought to be concerned

Kicked out the League Cup for poor admin

Messing up a potential signing with slightly - ahem - underhand & untrustworthy tactics, when you are a stressed buyer, who has already let doidge go & are running out of time to bring in a replacement?

None of this is good news

The Saudi mob tried the same with us over Boyle. It's common. Not the way I'd do business but football is very cut throat.

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01-09-2022, 03:15 PM
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Springbank
01-09-2022, 03:16 PM
The Saudi mob tried the same with us over Boyle. It's common. Not the way I'd do business but football is very cut throat.

That's maybe the point though- it doesn't work

It's not smart negotiating

MrRobot
01-09-2022, 03:16 PM
Regardless of who it is, if we’re trying to talk down to a lower figure having agreed a figure yesterday and went to the trouble of flying the laddie up and giving him a medical etc it’s absolutely ****ing abysmal behaviour.

is trying to get the club the best deal possible really abysmal behaviour? :dunno:

AugustaHibs
01-09-2022, 03:16 PM
Ian does not, but if we can find something else to beat him with why not?


I couldn’t give a **** who negotiates to be quite honest.

They’re all ****ing useless cowboys.

hibbie02
01-09-2022, 03:17 PM
Ill be more ****ed off if we let Dylan Tait leave without ever being given a chance

This is where I am.

hibee1875
01-09-2022, 03:17 PM
Maybe it’s done but we’re just waiting on all the social media content to be finalised?

Souter96Mac
01-09-2022, 03:18 PM
Will Fish? What a load of carp

Chorley Hibee
01-09-2022, 03:18 PM
They are trying to negotiate a better deal? Or the story is just someone guessing at why it's taking longer than expected. My guess would be the second option.

I'm hoping it's the second too.

If it's the first, then it only goes to show the absolute chancers we currently have in charge.

As someone else said, you don't verbally agree a fee, have said player travel to sign, only to then try and negotiate a whole new deal with the selling club.

Underhand behaviour and the type that won't hold us in good stead for future deals should our actions become common knowledge.

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01-09-2022, 03:19 PM
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Not sure he'd even get a plaice in the team?

Callum_62
01-09-2022, 03:20 PM
Who doenst love TDD

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Stuart93
01-09-2022, 03:21 PM
Who doenst love TDD

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Hibs fans

GreenGray
01-09-2022, 03:21 PM
Christ if McKirdy falls through this place might implode.

I understand negotiations are part of it but why make an offer, have it accepted then negotiate?!

Why accept an offer in first place if you aren’t willing to go through with it, strikes me as amateurish.


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01-09-2022, 03:21 PM
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He's done nowt since he left Marillion... :greengrin