Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[CapitalGreen]

Is that true, that Johnson said he’s not signing centre mids?


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Not quite.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?358266-Tonight%92s-Zoom-chat-with-LJ-and-BK

[Sir David Gray]

Has McGregor not retired?

Hauge is 100% squad. McClelland also.


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McGregor is registered as a player/coach.

Hauge and McClelland have featured in both cup games this season.

[Unseen work]

There’s surely no danger of Boyle coming back in any capacity.

He rightly left for the money and getting relegated will have no bearing on his thoughts id imagine.

If he did want to leave either permanent or on loan there will be loads of clubs willing to give them/him a better package.

I can’t even see it being a possibility

[bigwheel]

McGregor is registered as a player/coach.

Hauge and McClelland have featured in both cup games this season.

I’d say Hauge needs to go out on loan - to grow his experience…

[04Sauzee]

There’s surely no danger of Boyle coming back in any capacity.

He rightly left for the money and getting relegated will have no bearing on his thoughts id imagine.

If he did want to leave either permanent or on loan there will be loads of clubs willing to give them/him a better package.

I can’t even see it being a possibility

Personally can't see it, just wishful thinking from some folk.

[SMAXXA]

McGregor is registered as a player/coach.

Hauge and McClelland have featured in both cup games this season.

For the development side not the first team

[Sir David Gray]

For the development side not the first team

The Hibs website suggests otherwise.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/squads/mens-first-team

[WhileTheChief..]

There’s 11 midfield players listed on the official site.

They are simply not good enough to take us where we want to be.

I’d keep 5 max, and they’d mostly be back ups. We’re woefully short of quality here.

[cameronw-hfc]

If you dinnae think Porteous has improved since he was 19 then you’re just wrong.

One of the best centre halfs in the league. I’d be gutted to lose him under any circumstances.


He has improved, but his main issue was lack of concentration/rashness when he came through.

I'd say his main issue now is still lapses of concentration and can be stupidly rash/emotional. He's not a world beater that will reject a deal with us because we've been holding him back from some mega club.

He's left us in a situation where we may lose a potential asset for free, yet he's worshipped and it's considered hating if you have anything negative to say against him.

I like Porto, he's a good player, but he's played a lot of football and still has the exact same weaknesses. He makes the same mistakes over and over, and for a player playing chicken with the club over his contract, you'd expect him to be a hell of a lot better, or even treated poorly by the club. He's been defended, nursed through injuries and stood up for vs everyone and anyone by the club and the fans from his off-the-pitch problems to his knee issues and red cards/stupid mistakes.

Just not chuffed with the refusal of a new contract, a year before it runs out. Leaving his boyhood heroes for zilch, when a club like hibs, even 500k/1m would be incredibly beneficial for us.

[CapitalGreen]

Just not chuffed with the refusal of a new contract, a year before it runs out. Leaving his boyhood heroes for zilch, when a club like hibs, even 500k/1m would be incredibly beneficial for us.

What should he do instead exactly? Accept a contract he doesn’t want?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Abra Cabraja. I'll get me coat🚕

[One Day Soon]

What should he do instead exactly? Accept a contract he doesn’t want?

What, you mean like more money for him in the meantime and a release clause so that when his future comes calling he gets the move and we make some money? Yes, I'd say so.

But then the agent probably doesn't want that.

[CapitalGreen]

What, you mean like more money for him in the meantime and a release clause so that when his future comes calling he gets the move and we make some money? Yes, I'd say so.

But then the agent probably doesn't want that.

Who’s to say whether anyone would meet his release clause?

[Hibbyradge]

Abra Cabraja. I'll get me coat🚕

I think it's pronounced Chabraya.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I think it's pronounced Chabraya.

Boooooooooooooooooooooo

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1547273514809532430?s=21&t=-WJwVvxKLEq0OOMPNdxbJw

Boyle [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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[WhileTheChief..]

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Dabrowski
Johnson

Miller
Cabraja
Hanlon
Porteous
Cadden
Stevenson
McGregor
Bushiri
McClelland
Blaney
Delferriere

Kenneh
Magennis
Doyle Hayes
Tavares
Newell
Henderson
Mitchell
Tait
Hauge
Campbell
McGeady

Doidge
Nisbet
Bojang
Melkersen
Youan

There’s only 7 defenders listed on the official site though. 5 from last season plus Rocky, Miller, and now Cabraja, to make it 8.

We’ve replaced McGinn and Doig but desperately need more quality added.

[cameronw-hfc]

Who’s to say whether anyone would meet his release clause?

Club could speak to Porto and have a smaller amount as a clause he's happy with. Even if it's cut price, at least as earn SOMETHING rather than a measly development fee when he walks for free.

[Sir David Gray]

There’s only 7 defenders listed on the official site though. 5 from last season plus Rocky, Miller, and now Cabraja, to make it 8.

We’ve replaced McGinn and Doig but desperately need more quality added.

Yeah they haven't included McClelland, Blaney or Delferriere but all three have played a part in our League Cup matches so I've listed them.

Agreed that we need another two or three signings to come in.

[Mcbizz1998]

I reckon Boyle will be back sooner rather than later, just a hunch.

[CapitalGreen]

Club could speak to Porto and have a smaller amount as a clause he's happy with. Even if it's cut price, at least as earn SOMETHING rather than a measly development fee when he walks for free.

If we give him a cut price release clause anything we we make will be greatly reduced by the higher wages we are giving him in order to accept the contract.

He’ll be 24 next summer so no development fee payable as far as I’m aware.

[Just_Jimmy]

Bojang at east mains just been tweeted, work permit must be sorted..Looks older than the boss [emoji23]

Proper excited about this lad, hopefully he's more sadio mane than amandu konte.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

He has improved, but his main issue was lack of concentration/rashness when he came through.

I'd say his main issue now is still lapses of concentration and can be stupidly rash/emotional. He's not a world beater that will reject a deal with us because we've been holding him back from some mega club.

He's left us in a situation where we may lose a potential asset for free, yet he's worshipped and it's considered hating if you have anything negative to say against him.

I like Porto, he's a good player, but he's played a lot of football and still has the exact same weaknesses. He makes the same mistakes over and over, and for a player playing chicken with the club over his contract, you'd expect him to be a hell of a lot better, or even treated poorly by the club. He's been defended, nursed through injuries and stood up for vs everyone and anyone by the club and the fans from his off-the-pitch problems to his knee issues and red cards/stupid mistakes.

Just not chuffed with the refusal of a new contract, a year before it runs out. Leaving his boyhood heroes for zilch, when a club like hibs, even 500k/1m would be incredibly beneficial for us.


agree with all this :agree: if he wants to leave with the club getting zilch i will have far more respect for Jason Cummings and Martin Boyle

[One Day Soon]

Who’s to say whether anyone would meet his release clause?

I know, it's a mystery. I wonder how they manage to agree such things in every other deal that's done on this basis and why that can't be done in this case?

[21sMay]

I posted last week that an attacking minded midfielder was close . It's very much still on as far as I'm led to believe.

Porto situation falls at Ryan's feet , we have offered him the best deal possible(same as Boyle got). Would be disappointed if he didn't sign the deal as it benefits himself and the club he loves.

Last but not least , there is definitely a chance of Boyle returning this window .

[Unseen work]

I posted last week that an attacking minded midfielder was close . It's very much still on as far as I'm led to believe.

Porto situation falls at Ryan's feet , we have offered him the best deal possible(same as Boyle got). Would be disappointed if he didn't sign the deal as it benefits himself and the club he loves.

Last but not least , there is definitely a chance of Boyle returning this window .

Any idea who the attacking midfielder is?

Name or even if you think they would be a quality addition and starter?

Cheers

[21sMay]

Any idea who the attacking midfielder is?

Name or even if you think they would be a quality addition and starter?

Cheers

Definitely a starter I'd imagine, transfer fee seems to be the issue. He's currently playing in England is all I'll say. Not being a di*k about this btw just unfortunately I've had the usual on here when I called the Steven Fletcher deal.on last time

[21sMay]

In addition to my above post . As far as I'm led to believe we also knocked back 2 previous bids from verona for doig, which is amazing buisness by us and I'm hoping frees up the money to secure the remaining signings Lee Johnson Wants

[ekhibee]

I’d far rather have him for this season than have a million in the bank.

And I'd rather he didn't walk away for nothing.

[21sMay]

And I'd rather he didn't walk away for nothing.

To be honest I'd rather he left now if his mind isn't on hibs. Money or not . Needs to stop thinking he's a top center half and actually focus on becoming one as he has all the attributes to do so

[ekhibee]

To be honest I'd rather he left now if his mind isn't on hibs. Money or not . Needs to stop thinking he's a top center half and actually focus on becoming one as he has all the attributes to do so

Yep, you're probably right. I think it's gone to his head a bit. He is still a decent centre half though.

[cameronw-hfc]

I’d far rather have him for this season than have a million in the bank.

I wouldn't. I'd rather sell now, he's so replaceable. That's not to his detriment, but a CB only becomes irreplaceable when they have a Van Dijk level of performance for a club, Porto is one of the better CBS in the league, but he's incredibly replaceable and a club like Hibs relies on our youth products who become assets making us a few bob.

If we got offered a mill right now, id drive him down myself. If he signed a new deal id take that right back, but as it stands, we are much better off just replacing and taking the cash as a good profit than lose him for free.

This isn't like we're losing a player with invaluable attributes(ie, Boyle, Mcginn). He's a good CB, but his attributes can be pretty easily replaced with good recruitment.

[Unseen work]

Definitely a starter I'd imagine, transfer fee seems to be the issue. He's currently playing in England is all I'll say. Not being a di*k about this btw just unfortunately I've had the usual on here when I called the Steven Fletcher deal.on last time

No bother mate, cheers for sharing anyway 👍🏻

[21sMay]

Yep, you're probably right. I think it's gone to his head a bit. He is still a decent centre half though.

The boys a very good center half but unfortunately these unforced mistakes brings him down to an average center half , he has still not managed to cut then out which is a slight worry

[21sMay]

I wouldn't. I'd rather sell now, he's so replaceable. That's not to his detriment, but a CB only becomes irreplaceable when they have a Van Dijk level of performance for a club, Porto is one of the better CBS in the league, but he's incredibly replaceable and a club like Hibs relies on our youth products who become assets making us a few bob.


If we got offered a mill right now, id drive him down myself. If he signed a new deal id take that right back, but as it stands, we are much better off just replacing and taking the cash as a good profit than lose him for free.

This isn't like we're losing a player with invaluable attributes(ie, Boyle, Mcginn). He's a good CB, but his attributes can be pretty easily replaced with good recruitment.

My thoughts also . Nail on the head .

Ryan really needs to start learning also , I'm sure Darren will have said a few things over the years, would be nice to see Ryan start to chill out in certain aspects as his ability is massive

[easty]

I wouldn't. I'd rather sell now, he's so replaceable. That's not to his detriment, but a CB only becomes irreplaceable when they have a Van Dijk level of performance for a club, Porto is one of the better CBS in the league, but he's incredibly replaceable and a club like Hibs relies on our youth products who become assets making us a few bob.

If we got offered a mill right now, id drive him down myself. If he signed a new deal id take that right back, but as it stands, we are much better off just replacing and taking the cash as a good profit than lose him for free.

This isn't like we're losing a player with invaluable attributes(ie, Boyle, Mcginn). He's a good CB, but his attributes can be pretty easily replaced with good recruitment.

If he’s incredibly replaceable then why isn’t the league full of Porteous standard defenders?

He’s not easily replaceable at our budget level.

[Smartie]

Porteous is imperfect in lots of ways but we’re still unrecognisably better when he plays than when he doesn’t.

Aspects of his game have improved (I don’t think there are many better footballing centre halves in Scotland now) but problems still remain.

It’s annoying stuff that lets him down and it’s all so avoidable. Some stuff that should have improved since he broke through simply hasn’t and has arguably got worse.

He was a major talent straight away when he broke through and still is.

The only thing standing in the way of him going to the very top is himself. I actually think he’s gone as far as he can with us and is in a comfort zone where he’ll get away with his nonsense. He needs to be somewhere where he risks losing his place in the team when he loses concentration or discipline and that won’t happen at Hibs.

[Col2]

I reckon Boyle will be back sooner rather than later, just a hunch.

I am almost certain we will do everything we can to make it happen even if it’s a 1 year loan deal (loan fee/ part wages)

[Unseen work]

Looking at the players in so far this summer compared to those that left, do we think we’re better or worse and have we replaced well? Based just on the team we ended the season with, not those like Gogic etc who were away on loan

Obviously not all are clear replacements but close enough bar Kenneh/McGinn

Marshall - Macey
Miller - Clarke
McLellend - McGregor
Cabraja - Doig
Kenneh - McGinn
Tavares - Jasper
McGeady- Allan
Bojang - Wright
Youan - Scott

Tait also back from loan although likely he’ll go back out.

[Col2]

CEO has said Doig cash will be reinvested in team.

That means fees and wages. Given we don’t tend to spend a lot in fees this will still give us flexibility to outbid most teams from a wages perspective

We should be getting a decent CH, maybe two.

We desperately need an attacking midfielder and a central midfielder. McGrath (loan and available) and McGeouch (free) are two that spring to mind

We need another striker/ winger. We run the risk of a lack of options given Doidge not prolific & Nisbet may not be up to full speed until Xmas. Boyle would provide this given goals and assists and impact.

Porto new deal or accept he will leave in 12 months. If we let go we def need two new CH.

Rocky should be moved on even if it costs is a few quid.

Campbell out on loan.

JDH out on loan

Newell needs to step up but clearly has talent. Mitchell might not be in LJ plans given signing today. Both might need to be moved on if we think numbers too high.

None of the above is unreasonable. Not with £3m coming in, £3m 6 months ago and over 6 weeks in the window left.

[Col2]

Looking at the players in so far this summer compared to those that left, do we think we’re better or worse and have we replaced well? Based just on the team we ended the season with, not those like Gogic etc who were away on loan

Obviously not all are clear replacements but close Keith

Marshall - Macey
Miller - Clarke
McLellend - McGregor
Cabraja - Doig
Kenneh - McGinn
Tavares - Jasper
McGeady- Allan
Bojang - Wright
Youan - Scott

Tait also back from loan although likely he’ll go back out.

Good summary. I think we are better off based on what we know of those coming in. Too early to predict if this will come to reality.

[Unseen work]

Good summary. I think we are better off based on what we know of those coming in. Too early to predict if this will come to reality.

Agree that we’ll hopefully be better off.

The majority of our signings are relatively unknown but surely they can’t be worse/offer less than those departing? When you look at the players that have left it’s quite mental to think how little the majority contributed.

[The Harp Awakes]

CEO has said Doig cash will be reinvested in team.

That means fees and wages. Given we don’t tend to spend a lot in fees this will still give us flexibility to outbid most teams from a wages perspective

We should be getting a decent CH, maybe two.

We desperately need an attacking midfielder and a central midfielder. McGrath (loan and available) and McGeouch (free) are two that spring to mind

We need another striker/ winger. We run the risk of a lack of options given Doidge not prolific & Nisbet may not be up to full speed until Xmas. Boyle would provide this given goals and assists and impact.

Porto new deal or accept he will leave in 12 months. If we let go we def need two new CH.

Rocky should be moved on even if it costs is a few quid.

Campbell out on loan.

JDH out on loan

Newell needs to step up but clearly has talent. Mitchell might not be in LJ plans given signing today. Both might need to be moved on if we think numbers too high.

None of the above is unreasonable. Not with £3m coming in, £3m 6 months ago and over 6 weeks in the window left.

I pretty much agree with all of that apart from JDH. I think if we had a couple of more attack minded midfield additions JDH would be ideal as a holding CM. Technically good and seldom gives the ball away. Newall and Campbell I would move on.

[McGruber]

CEO has said Doig cash will be reinvested in team.

That means fees and wages. Given we don’t tend to spend a lot in fees this will still give us flexibility to outbid most teams from a wages perspective

We should be getting a decent CH, maybe two.

We desperately need an attacking midfielder and a central midfielder. McGrath (loan and available) and McGeouch (free) are two that spring to mind

We need another striker/ winger. We run the risk of a lack of options given Doidge not prolific & Nisbet may not be up to full speed until Xmas. Boyle would provide this given goals and assists and impact.

Porto new deal or accept he will leave in 12 months. If we let go we def need two new CH.

Rocky should be moved on even if it costs is a few quid.

Campbell out on loan.

JDH out on loan

Newell needs to step up but clearly has talent. Mitchell might not be in LJ plans given signing today. Both might need to be moved on if we think numbers too high.

None of the above is unreasonable. Not with £3m coming in, £3m 6 months ago and over 6 weeks in the window left.


The CEO's always say the money from a big sale will be reinvested in the team, the party line. The proof will be in the pudding however got to say there has clearly been lots of investment already this window so hopefully continues. The squad is maybe a bit bloated but quality CB and CM a must. Can maybe get away with striker options but wouldn't say no to a quality, reliable striker. If there is a realistic chance of getting Boyle back that can't be turned away.
Personally think McGrath would be excellent but McGeough is done and nowhere near reliable. Some like Connor Ronan or Dylan Levitt could be options (if they aren't already tied up). Preferably someone a bit older/more experienced in CM would be good

[McGruber]

Looking at the players in so far this summer compared to those that left, do we think we’re better or worse and have we replaced well? Based just on the team we ended the season with, not those like Gogic etc who were away on loan

Obviously not all are clear replacements but close enough bar Kenneh/McGinn

Marshall - Macey
Miller - Clarke
McLellend - McGregor
Cabraja - Doig
Kenneh - McGinn
Tavares - Jasper
McGeady- Allan
Bojang - Wright
Youan - Scott

Tait also back from loan although likely he’ll go back out.

This question will need revisited in a few months - far too early to tell with some not even made an appearance for us

Got to say the ones that have left I agree with them going. Sad to see Allan go though for sentimental reasons, Doig quality but got tremendous deal and Clarke was very good but outwith our control.

Early signs good - looking forward to seeing some of these new players

[theonlywayisup]

Looking at the players in so far this summer compared to those that left, do we think we’re better or worse and have we replaced well? Based just on the team we ended the season with, not those like Gogic etc who were away on loan

Obviously not all are clear replacements but close enough bar Kenneh/McGinn

Marshall - Macey
Miller - Clarke
McLellend - McGregor
Cabraja - Doig
Kenneh - McGinn
Tavares - Jasper
McGeady- Allan
Bojang - Wright
Youan - Scott

Tait also back from loan although likely he’ll go back out.

No "leaders" before and no "leaders" now. When "two nil down at Tynie", who's going to step up to the challenge?

[JammyDoidger]

Someone like Korey Smith would be perfect, Johnson had him at Bristol city, been released by Swansea, 31, good range of passing. Wages might be stumbling block sure Johnson is aware of him though.

[GloryGlory]

Josh has really picked up the lingo quickly. :greengrin

https://twitter.com/JoshDoig_/status/1547182273581260806

[GloryGlory]

The CEO's always say the money from a big sale will be reinvested in the team, the party line. The proof will be in the pudding however got to say there has clearly been lots of investment already this window so hopefully continues. The squad is maybe a bit bloated but quality CB and CM a must. Can maybe get away with striker options but wouldn't say no to a quality, reliable striker. If there is a realistic chance of getting Boyle back that can't be turned away.
Personally think McGrath would be excellent but McGeough is done and nowhere near reliable. Some like Connor Ronan or Dylan Levitt could be options (if they aren't already tied up). Preferably someone a bit older/more experienced in CM would be good

Levitt on a perm at Dundee U. Think he's been injured in pre season.

[Since452]

CEO has said Doig cash will be reinvested in team.

That means fees and wages. Given we don’t tend to spend a lot in fees this will still give us flexibility to outbid most teams from a wages perspective

We should be getting a decent CH, maybe two.

We desperately need an attacking midfielder and a central midfielder. McGrath (loan and available) and McGeouch (free) are two that spring to mind

We need another striker/ winger. We run the risk of a lack of options given Doidge not prolific & Nisbet may not be up to full speed until Xmas. Boyle would provide this given goals and assists and impact.

Porto new deal or accept he will leave in 12 months. If we let go we def need two new CH.

Rocky should be moved on even if it costs is a few quid.

Campbell out on loan.

JDH out on loan

Newell needs to step up but clearly has talent. Mitchell might not be in LJ plans given signing today. Both might need to be moved on if we think numbers too high.

None of the above is unreasonable. Not with £3m coming in, £3m 6 months ago and over 6 weeks in the window left.

Dylan McGeouch couldn't get a game for a team that finished below us and that's saying something. I'd keep Rocky and JDH. McGrath might be a shout. I do think we need another midfielder. Magennis is exactly the player we need but his absence seems to be never ending.

[cameronw-hfc]

If he’s incredibly replaceable then why isn’t the league full of Porteous standard defenders?

He’s not easily replaceable at our budget level.




I don't mean he's easy as in there's players left right and centre desperately to come to us that are better than him, I mean he's by no means impossible to replace. Whereas before, Mcginn, was irreplaceable, Boyle etc.

Good recruitment and you can get a CB with pretty similar attributes to him. He's a decent footballer, good defender, good in the air and good communication. That's not impossible to replace especially when you look at his positional weaknesses, lapses of concentration, trying to do too much and being too rash/emotional.

This isn't meant as a put down Porto, he's one of our own! It's just poor business to develop a player we know is leaving for nothing at the end of the season.

The fact there's not 20 teams clamouring for his signature could be a sign, or it could be team's playing it smart. Knowing he's not signing a new deal and they can just get him for free next year.

Look at Villa with grealish. Kinda knew for a while he would be going to a big club eventually, but spoke to the player, decided on a fee they felt was fair and he ended up bagging Villa 100m. Porto won't be close to that obviously, but a deal with a £1m/1.5m release clause would be met in no time if he played well, and it would guarantee us a fee.

[JohnM1875]

I posted last week that an attacking minded midfielder was close . It's very much still on as far as I'm led to believe.

Porto situation falls at Ryan's feet , we have offered him the best deal possible(same as Boyle got). Would be disappointed if he didn't sign the deal as it benefits himself and the club he loves.

Last but not least , there is definitely a chance of Boyle returning this window .

That's fantastic news about Boyle! Guessing it'll be a loan so he still gets a good chunk of his wage paid from his current team? Though not sure how that would work if he's playing in UK again, guessing he'd get taxed on it?

[McGruber]

That's fantastic news about Boyle! Guessing it'll be a loan so he still gets a good chunk of his wage paid from his current team? Though not sure how that would work if he's playing in UK again, guessing he'd get taxed on it?

It's a fantastic rumour. Would be delighted if he came back, can't see it though

[cameronw-hfc]

That's fantastic news about Boyle! Guessing it'll be a loan so he still gets a good chunk of his wage paid from his current team? Though not sure how that would work if he's playing in UK again, guessing he'd get taxed on it?

Might only get taxed on the % paid by Hibs due to the contract being signed and intended for use in another country. Although I know literally nothing about it so complete and utter guess.

Also, I'm just saying, but Boyles last few twitter likes have been pretty Hibs centric. Could just be a case of supporting his pals/old club though.

[ScottB]

That's fantastic news about Boyle! Guessing it'll be a loan so he still gets a good chunk of his wage paid from his current team? Though not sure how that would work if he's playing in UK again, guessing he'd get taxed on it?

Pretty sure he’s not been away long enough to escape UK tax and if he effectively moved back here he definitely wouldn’t.

You can only be here a limited number of days a year otherwise you start owing tax regardless of where your employer is I think…

[Paulie Walnuts]

Looking at the players in so far this summer compared to those that left, do we think we’re better or worse and have we replaced well? Based just on the team we ended the season with, not those like Gogic etc who were away on loan

Obviously not all are clear replacements but close enough bar Kenneh/McGinn

Marshall - Macey
Miller - Clarke
McLellend - McGregor
Cabraja - Doig
Kenneh - McGinn
Tavares - Jasper
McGeady- Allan
Bojang - Wright
Youan - Scott

Tait also back from loan although likely he’ll go back out.

Still to early to say imo but the ones I feel I could say with a degree of certainty are Marshall and McGeady being improvements. Potentially Youan as well.

The others are all complete unknown quantities so it’s really just a case of fingers crossed. Other than Cabraja and McLelland, none of them have all that big a job on their hands if they want to be better than the guy they’ve replaced.

[Since452]

Bojang is one that really interests me. Love signings like that. He may be completely Tam Kite but he may also be tremendous. A complete punt. Will be very interesting to see how he gets on.

Boyle back would be absolutley superb. Fingers crossed.

[BlackSheep]

Pretty sure he’s not been away long enough to escape UK tax and if he effectively moved back here he definitely wouldn’t.

You can only be here a limited number of days a year otherwise you start owing tax regardless of where your employer is I think…

We need to be looking at this Non Dom thing that Sunak and his cronies keep taking advantage of 😂😂😂

[CallumHibs07]

We've already got stacks of forwards/wide players

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Tavares
Bojang
Youan
McGeady

Would use the Doig money on the defence/midfield over Boyle

[xqnq1875]

Surely we’re after another midfielder now after the **** show that was the Falkirk game with all 3 of Campbell, newell and jdh being absolutely terrible and on top of that magennis still isn’t back and could very well get injured again I’m hoping not but we can’t rely on him knowing his injury history


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[Just_Jimmy]

We've already got stacks of forwards/wide players

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Tavares
Bojang
Youan
McGeady

Would use the Doig money on the defence/midfield over Boyle

Martin Boyle is better and proven. Only McGeady comes close but he's never done it for hibs and Boyle is younger.

He'd be the first name on the team sheet.

I'm sick fed up of this "we've got players..." if someone who would give the whole club a massive lift is available then you go and get them.

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[04Sauzee]

Martin Boyle is better and proven. Only McGeady comes close but he's never done it for hibs and Boyle is younger.

He'd be the first name on the team sheet.

I'm sick fed up of this "we've got players..." if someone who would give the whole club a massive lift is available then you go and get them.

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I get the sentiment but we can't really say he's better when we have seen some of these guys play in a few pre-season friendlies and Bojang only arrived at HTC yesterday.

[CallumHibs07]

Martin Boyle is better and proven. Only McGeady comes close but he's never done it for hibs and Boyle is younger.

He'd be the first name on the team sheet.

I'm sick fed up of this "we've got players..." if someone who would give the whole club a massive lift is available then you go and get them.

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We've just signed Jair on a 4-year deal as we presumably believe he has future sell-on potential. Re-signing Boyle on huge wages (and very little/no resale value) would immediately take Jair out the team and stunt his development. Would completely throw our strategy up in the air, as I said would rather we prioritise other areas.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Martin Boyle is better and proven. Only McGeady comes close but he's never done it for hibs and Boyle is younger.

He'd be the first name on the team sheet.

I'm sick fed up of this "we've got players..." if someone who would give the whole club a massive lift is available then you go and get them.

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Yup.

Likewise with centre mid. Yes we have 6, but they’re not good enough imo. If we need 10 centre mids to have a good enough team then go out and get another 4. We need to be more worried about the quality we’ve got than the numbers imo and as you say, Martin Boyle provides proven quality.

[SMAXXA]

We've just signed Jair on a 4-year deal as we presumably believe he has future sell-on potential. Re-signing Boyle on huge wages (and very little/no resale value) would immediately take Jair out the team and stunt his development. Would completely throw our strategy up in the air, as I said would rather we prioritise other areas.

Unless he’s signed as a striker which is unlikely

[AlbertK86]

We've just signed Jair on a 4-year deal as we presumably believe he has future sell-on potential. Re-signing Boyle on huge wages (and very little/no resale value) would immediately take Jair out the team and stunt his development. Would completely throw our strategy up in the air, as I said would rather we prioritise other areas.

What if Jair doesn’t live up to the hype and needs broken in gradually?

Boyler in and he is understudy and back up to Boyler / McGeady. Will get plenty game time that way. as no way are both playing 90 mins every game.

McGeady on a year contract so build him up gradually to take over.

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[CapitalGreen]

We've just signed Jair on a 4-year deal as we presumably believe he has future sell-on potential. Re-signing Boyle on huge wages (and very little/no resale value) would immediately take Jair out the team and stunt his development. Would completely throw our strategy up in the air, as I said would rather we prioritise other areas.

Jair predominantly plays on the left while Boyle predominantly plays on the right.

[Brightside]

Dylan McGeouch couldn't get a game for a team that finished below us and that's saying something. I'd keep Rocky and JDH. McGrath might be a shout. I do think we need another midfielder. Magennis is exactly the player we need but his absence seems to be never ending.

Yep - Bringing in Dylan and moving on JDH is madness.

[Logie]

Jair predominantly plays on the left while Boyle predominantly plays on the right.

Nothing wrong with having multiple options. Reckon Boyle would be fine upfront as well with either melkerson/youan or as you say on the right. For me personally I think if Boyle is a viable option to bring back it’s a no brainer, that would massively improve our squad imo.

[Greenio]

I don't mean he's easy as in there's players left right and centre desperately to come to us that are better than him, I mean he's by no means impossible to replace. Whereas before, Mcginn, was irreplaceable, Boyle etc.

Good recruitment and you can get a CB with pretty similar attributes to him. He's a decent footballer, good defender, good in the air and good communication. That's not impossible to replace especially when you look at his positional weaknesses, lapses of concentration, trying to do too much and being too rash/emotional.

This isn't meant as a put down Porto, he's one of our own! It's just poor business to develop a player we know is leaving for nothing at the end of the season.

The fact there's not 20 teams clamouring for his signature could be a sign, or it could be team's playing it smart. Knowing he's not signing a new deal and they can just get him for free next year.

Look at Villa with grealish. Kinda knew for a while he would be going to a big club eventually, but spoke to the player, decided on a fee they felt was fair and he ended up bagging Villa 100m. Porto won't be close to that obviously, but a deal with a £1m/1.5m release clause would be met in no time if he played well, and it would guarantee us a fee.

Ryan brings a lot more to the team than just his footballing ability, did you watch the micd up footage from Portugal - the guy's presence and instructions to other players is a massive part of the role he plays. Also feel his pitfalls are being overplayed, sure he's made some big mistakes on the field, and got involved in some stuff off it - only 1 of which is really worthy of commenting on and thats been blown way out of proportion imo cos of who he is. Weighed up, he's still a tremendous asset. I also dont buy into the whole, 'he won't be a legend if he goes for nothing' - him leaving for nothing doesn't impact the way I value his contribution one bit. Not saying I wouldn't prefer it if we got coin, but he's done what he gets paid for and more imo.

[jacomo]

Ryan brings a lot more to the team than just his footballing ability, did you watch the micd up footage from Portugal - the guy's presence and instructions to other players is a massive part of the role he plays. Also feel his pitfalls are being overplayed, sure he's made some big mistakes on the field, and got involved in some stuff off it - only 1 of which is really worthy of commenting on and thats been blown way out of proportion imo cos of who he is. Weighed up, he's still a tremendous asset. I also dont buy into the whole, 'he won't be a legend if he goes for nothing' - him leaving for nothing doesn't impact the way I value his contribution one bit. Not saying I wouldn't prefer it if we got coin, but he's done what he gets paid for and more imo.


He won’t be the first player to leave on a free and he won’t be the last.

Personally I think the risk of not having him in the team this season is greater, unless we receive a silly bid.

[Hibbyradge]

He won’t be the first player to leave on a free and he won’t be the last.

Personally I think the risk of not having him in the team this season is greater, unless we receive a silly bid.

I don't want us to miss out on a fee and a sell on percentage.

[jacomo]

I don't want us to miss out on a fee and a sell on percentage.


For what? We should be focused on putting the best team on the park, and he’s our best centre back.

[B.H.F.C]

He won’t be the first player to leave on a free and he won’t be the last.

Personally I think the risk of not having him in the team this season is greater, unless we receive a silly bid.

I agree.

Used the example of Hearts with Souttar. They stood pretty firm with him and targeted success on the pitch in the present. As a result (not all down to him obviously) they guaranteed themselves group stage European football and got their millions that way. I think we need to do everything we can to have the strongest possible team on the park this year and I don’t think we’ll get a better centre half than Porteous, short term, if we sell him.

[Stuart93]

I don't want us to miss out on a fee and a sell on percentage.

Think this is becoming the problem with hibs recently. There’s so much focus on getting cash and sell ons for our better players that the actual on field success is being forgotten about.

[Unseen work]

Ryan brings a lot more to the team than just his footballing ability, did you watch the micd up footage from Portugal - the guy's presence and instructions to other players is a massive part of the role he plays. Also feel his pitfalls are being overplayed, sure he's made some big mistakes on the field, and got involved in some stuff off it - only 1 of which is really worthy of commenting on and thats been blown way out of proportion imo cos of who he is. Weighed up, he's still a tremendous asset. I also dont buy into the whole, 'he won't be a legend if he goes for nothing' - him leaving for nothing doesn't impact the way I value his contribution one bit. Not saying I wouldn't prefer it if we got coin, but he's done what he gets paid for and more imo.

Imo you can’t take much away from him being mic’d up against Hartlepool in a friendly when he came in and we were already winning. Everyone was calm and there wasn’t anything riding on the game.

On Tuesday he came on at a time we were struggling, that’s where a captain leads. He had some absolute horror moments and it would be interesting to see how he reacted in those circumstances as it was obvious he was screaming at others on occasion where it may have been him making the error.

If he screams at Melkersen for example when he himself is having a shocker it’s no surprise Melkersen tuts back at him or might not have the biggest amount of respect for him.

Compare him to McGregor, who is clearly a leader - I can’t think of times mcgregor would obviously scream and have a tantrum at a player for a mistake

I think Ryan’s a really good player and has loads of potential and one day will be a good captain, but he needs to learn, not be so emotional on the pitch and lead by example. Encourage his team mates not scream at them and stop getting sent off/banned for childish stuff like kicking out.

[Hibbyradge]

Think this is becoming the problem with hibs recently. There’s so much focus on getting cash and sell ons for our better players that the actual on field success is being forgotten about.

Firstly, of course we want the best team on the pitch, and I'd far rather Ryan signed a new contract.

However, I have no idea how many games we'll actually get from him given his propensity to achieve ever lengthening suspensions. He's also prone to regular careless errors so I don't think he's so good that he's irreplaceable.

How much would we be prepared to pay another club for Ryan's services for one year? Because if we reject offers, then that's what it would effectively be costing us. Is he worth £750k plus wages? More?

This place would go into (further) meltdown if we were spending money like that for one season players.

I realise that it's not exactly the same, but it's one way to look at it.

If course, we may not receive any offers so all this discussion and speculation will have been unnecessary.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Firstly, of course we want the best team on the pitch, and I'd far rather Ryan signed a new contract.

However, I have no idea how many games we'll actually get from him given his propensity to achieve ever lengthening suspensions. He's also prone to regular careless errors so I don't think he's so good that he's irreplaceable.

How much would we be prepared to pay another club for Ryan's services for one year? Because if we reject offers, then that's what it would effectively be costing us. Is he worth £750k plus wages? More?

This place would go into (further) meltdown if we were spending money like that for one season players.

I realise that it's not exactly the same, but it's one way to look at it.

If course, we may not receive any offers so all this discussion and speculation will have been unnecessary.

It’s a bit of an imperfect analogy and I don’t think it’s fair to compare us spending £750k to us not receiving a £750k that we’ve never had but I’d agree with the general point.

Porteous as’ performances on the pitch aren’t worth what would presumably be approaching £1m for a season if we knock back a deal. That argument could be made for someone like Boyle who probably would have been worth that kind of money per season, but Porteous doesn’t really come close to it imo.

If we got a decent deal, especially with a sell on then it would make sense for him to go imo.

[Hibbyradge]

It’s a bit of an imperfect analogy and I don’t think it’s fair to compare us spending £750k to us not receiving a £750k that we’ve never had but I’d agree with the general point.



I did say that it wasn't exactly the same, but it's up to Hibs to determine how much they would be prepared to miss out on for his services.

Hopefully he'll sign a new deal, learn how to cut out the daft errors and screw the nut, and we'll all benefits from it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I did say that it wasn't exactly the same, but it's up to Hibs to determine how much they would be prepared to miss out on for his services.

Hopefully he'll sign a new deal, learn how to cut out the daft errors and screw the nut, and we'll all benefits from it.

Yup, I agree.

[Torto7]

A Hibs player running down his contract like that makes me think Huntic are sniffing around. I cant imagine its Sevco so presumably Celtic.

[superfurryhibby]

A Hibs player running down his contract like that makes me think Huntic are sniffing around. I cant imagine its Sevco so presumably Celtic.

If they wanted Porto, they would sign him now. No chance of him going west.

[04Sauzee]

Bassey has been linked with Ajax and Brighton

Last week there was talk about Aapo Halme coming to Hibs, there is now talks about him going to HJK Helsinki

[chippy]

A Hibs player running down his contract like that makes me think Huntic are sniffing around. I cant imagine its Sevco so presumably Celtic.
Celtic have been after him for years

[04Sauzee]

Kamberi has signed for FC Winterthur on a free.

[04Sauzee]

Definitely a starter I'd imagine, transfer fee seems to be the issue. He's currently playing in England is all I'll say. Not being a di*k about this btw just unfortunately I've had the usual on here when I called the Steven Fletcher deal.on last time

So a permanent deal for the guy from England?

There had been talk about Elliot Anderson previously but that would put that one to bed

[SaulGoodman]

Kamberi has signed for FC Winterthur on a free.

Good enough for him.

That’s the place where the seasons are opposite to here isn’t it? Cause it’s Summer here the now but it’s..

[HoboHarry]

Kamberi has signed for FC Winterthur on a free.
Winterthur? Sounds like some place on Game of Thrones.

[J-C]

Winterthur? Sounds like some place on Game of Thrones.


Swiss super league, so must be a decent standard, he's accumulating a fair amount of teams in his career so far, this will be his 9th either permanently or on loan.

[Iain G]

Bassey has been linked with Ajax and Brighton

Last week there was talk about Aapo Halme coming to Hibs, there is now talks about him going to HJK Helsinki

Shirley not? :greengrin

[CL0762]

On the Porteous stuff, I’m led to believe that he’s been offered a contract that would make him one of if not the highest paid in the team & also been offered the captaincy but he has rejected even a conversation about it, let alone getting round the table & negotiating it.

Personally I think he has to do what’s best for him. Would stick in the craw a bit given he’s a ‘boyhood Hibs fan’ but we’ve seen this story before with Murray, Riordan etc.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bassey has been linked with Ajax and Brighton

Last week there was talk about Aapo Halme coming to Hibs, there is now talks about him going to HJK Helsinki

Bassey would do very well at Ajax I reckon.

[500miles]

He could go down south and get left alone by the press, or move to Celtic and have the papers that hassled him last year, kissing his arse.

I can see why he doesn't see himself here much longer term.

[Just_Jimmy]

I get the sentiment but we can't really say he's better when we have seen some of these guys play in a few pre-season friendlies and Bojang only arrived at HTC yesterday.I know what Boyle brings.

I want hibs to win games. The other guys either prove that they deserve the place over Boyle in time or they don't. Mean while, hibs have a better chance at winning games with Boyle in the team and higher competition.

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[Just_Jimmy]

We've just signed Jair on a 4-year deal as we presumably believe he has future sell-on potential. Re-signing Boyle on huge wages (and very little/no resale value) would immediately take Jair out the team and stunt his development. Would completely throw our strategy up in the air, as I said would rather we prioritise other areas.The only strategy I care about is winning games. Boyle gives Hibs a better chance of doing that and if Jair can displace him then he'll be a cracking player and its win win. Boyle can also play through the middle.

The lift around the place if Boyle comes back cannot be underestimated either.

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[Just_Jimmy]

Yup.

Likewise with centre mid. Yes we have 6, but they’re not good enough imo. If we need 10 centre mids to have a good enough team then go out and get another 4. We need to be more worried about the quality we’ve got than the numbers imo and as you say, Martin Boyle provides proven quality.Exactly.

Then bin the *****.

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[SlickShoes]

Boyle is on holiday in Florida at the moment so even if there was a chance of him coming back it's not likely to be happening very soon, I think people should reel in their expectations a bit with this one.

[McGruber]

Boyle's not coming back this window. Possibly a year or 2.

[McGruber]

We seem to be in this weird repeating loop that every transfer window back to end of Ross tenure we have clearly needed to sign quality centre back and centre mid then continue to sign anything but. Surely now the next 2 in the door will fill these spots

[Hibiza]

We seem to be in this weird repeating loop that every transfer window back to end of Ross tenure we have clearly needed to sign quality centre back and centre mid then continue to sign anything but. Surely now the next 2 in the door will fill these spots

10/10

[JohnM1875]

Boyle's not coming back this window. Possibly a year or 2.

Where else is heading? Can't see him being too keen playing Saudi second division football.

Don't doubt there will be plenty interested parties, but coming home to be with his family with a new born on the way makes a lot of sense to me. But aye, probably wishful thinking on my part.

[easty]

Where else is heading? Can't see him being too keen playing Saudi second division football.

Don't doubt there will be plenty interested parties, but coming home to be with his family with a new born on the way makes a lot of sense to me. But aye, probably wishful thinking on my part.

If they’re still paying him the same I dunno why Saudi second tier would bother him much more than the top league.

He’s no there for the football experience or to win Saudi trophies.

[CropleyWasGod]

Where else is heading? Can't see him being too keen playing Saudi second division football.

Don't doubt there will be plenty interested parties, but coming home to be with his family with a new born on the way makes a lot of sense to me. But aye, probably wishful thinking on my part.

Would cost him a fortune in tax, so probably not the best decision for him.

[JohnM1875]

If they’re still paying him the same I dunno why Saudi second tier would bother him much more than the top league.

He’s no there for the football experience or to win Saudi trophies.

Actually, his team are still in the knockout stages of their version of the Champions League I'm sure. So may well stay for that.

[McGruber]

Where else is heading? Can't see him being too keen playing Saudi second division football.

Don't doubt there will be plenty interested parties, but coming home to be with his family with a new born on the way makes a lot of sense to me. But aye, probably wishful thinking on my part.

You might be right John, it's only my best guess - no info

[JohnM1875]

You might be right John, it's only my best guess - no info

Nah, just remembered his team are still in the knockout stages of their Champions League, with that and his current wage I definitely reckon you're more likely right!

[MWHIBBIES]

Where else is heading? Can't see him being too keen playing Saudi second division football.

Don't doubt there will be plenty interested parties, but coming home to be with his family with a new born on the way makes a lot of sense to me. But aye, probably wishful thinking on my part.

Do you think he was heading to the Saudis for the quality of football?

[BlackSheep]

Do you think he was heading to the Saudis for the quality of football?

Do you think the Australians want him playing against rubbish teams with hatchet merchants who could injure him either?

[CropleyWasGod]

Do you think the Australians want him playing against rubbish teams with hatchet merchants who could injure him either?

So definitely no coming back here then?

[Just_Jimmy]

Do you think the Australians want him playing against rubbish teams with hatchet merchants who could injure him either?You're right actually, they'll definitely not want him playing in Scotland.

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[Libby Hibby]

A Hibs player running down his contract like that makes me think Huntic are sniffing around. I cant imagine its Sevco so presumably Celtic.

Wouldn’t be surprised.

[Eyrie]

Do you think the Australians want him playing against rubbish teams with hatchet merchants who could injure him either?


So definitely no coming back here then?

He could if we put a clause in his contract that he won't play against Hearts.

[MWHIBBIES]

Do you think the Australians want him playing against rubbish teams with hatchet merchants who could injure him either?

I mean, he's done that his entire career, including most of his international games, so I doubt they care.

[Since452]

On the Porteous stuff, I’m led to believe that he’s been offered a contract that would make him one of if not the highest paid in the team & also been offered the captaincy but he has rejected even a conversation about it, let alone getting round the table & negotiating it.

Personally I think he has to do what’s best for him. Would stick in the craw a bit given he’s a ‘boyhood Hibs fan’ but we’ve seen this story before with Murray, Riordan etc.

If that's the case I'd stick him in the reserves and play someone who wanted to be here. I'd expect someone acting Billy big baws to at least play well against Falkirk. Hopefully isn't the case.

[Lago]

If that's the case I'd stick him in the reserves and play someone who wanted to be here. I'd expect someone acting Billy big baws to at least play well against Falkirk. Hopefully isn't the case.
He does seem to be acting a bit of big time Charlie, agent must be whispering promises in his ear. Who is his agent?

[CapitalGreen]

If that's the case I'd stick him in the reserves and play someone who wanted to be here. I'd expect someone acting Billy big baws to at least play well against Falkirk. Hopefully isn't the case.

Since when was it Billy big baws to honour a contract you’ve signed?

[B.H.F.C]

If that's the case I'd stick him in the reserves and play someone who wanted to be here. I'd expect someone acting Billy big baws to at least play well against Falkirk. Hopefully isn't the case.

No seen anything from him to suggest he’s been Billy big Baws and sticking our best centre half in the reserves would be ridiculous.

[Stuart93]

On the Porteous stuff, I’m led to believe that he’s been offered a contract that would make him one of if not the highest paid in the team & also been offered the captaincy but he has rejected even a conversation about it, let alone getting round the table & negotiating it.

Personally I think he has to do what’s best for him. Would stick in the craw a bit given he’s a ‘boyhood Hibs fan’ but we’ve seen this story before with Murray, Riordan etc.

Porteous is nowhere near as good as them though

Fair enough look out for himself but for me, he’s not as good as he thinks he is.

[04Sauzee]

Porteous is nowhere near as good as them though

Fair enough look out for himself but for me, he’s not as good as he thinks he is.

How good does he think he is?

[04Sauzee]

Stuart Findlay on his way out of Philadelphia Union and likely to join a club in England. A big left footed CB

[Hibbyradge]

Porteous is nowhere near as good as them though

Fair enough look out for himself but for me, he’s not as good as he thinks he is.

He's exactly as good as he thinks he is.

FACT.

[GreenCastle]

If you were Porto the other night I wonder how you would feel. Coming on at 1v0 down and losing against Falkirk - getting frustrated with team mates who can't score / aren't doing enough. Ok he wasn't amazing himself but he made a difference.

You also think he would surely want a decent CB to be playing alongside - hence the important we add someone else at CB so he can keep learning.

Hibs / LJ I hope aren't being messed around. Should they put a deadline in about new contract to be signed or should they sell before he's worth £0?

We don't have many players who could step up and play regularly as Captain so I wonder he would be made Captain instead.

Maybe they are waiting till towards end of transfer window to try resolve but if he leaves it may leave it with little time to replace!? Or will Porto sit tight and wait to sign a pre-contract with someone in January?

Hopefully he resigns as I'm confident he will get his move if he keeps progressing.

[Stuart93]

How good does he think he is?

By the sounds of things, he thinks he’s a lot better than our level when in reality I’d say he’s not much better than that right now.

Cuts out the mistakes, the unnecessary rashness and suspensions he’d probably be there.

[worcesterhibby]

To be honest I’m another who doesn’t think Porteous is particularly indispensable. Whether he goes this year or next year he seems to have decided to go, so we may as well get used to a Hibs team without him. That’s a shame, but it will at least mean we might have 11 players on the park most of the time.

[Scotty Leither]

Think this is becoming the problem with hibs recently. There’s so much focus on getting cash and sell ons for our better players that the actual on field success is being forgotten about.

Correct.

[Bad Habits]

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/player-analysis/elie-youan-202223-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

Interesting tactical analysis on Elie Youan.

[Gordy M]

Correct.

Did we not knock back millions for Nisbet?

[Scotty Leither]

Did we not knock back millions for Nisbet?

£1.5m I think it was, which probably didn’t sit with Hibs’ valuation, because if it did he would have been sold in jig time.

The point the poster was making which I agreed with, is it’s about 80% of our signings right now can be filed under untried/a punt/a development player.

The two they have signed that have went straight in the first team, Kenneh and Miller cost nowt or in Miller’s case next to nowt. They don’t look like any upgrade on what we’ve got, maybe there’s the clue in the nominal outlay to bring them in?

Croatian LB is the same, zippo transfer fee, so another “punt” in my book.

We play that mob in the Derby in a little over 3 weeks’ time.

They’ll be “ready” in terms of personnel for that game, you can bet your house on that.

I can’t say I’m confident we will be , and that’s what Kensell and Gordon seem to fail to grasp…

[HendoDelivered]

The Scotsman: “There are new arrivals still to come into the side, in defence, midfield and attack.”

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/joe-newell-on-hibs-blip-lee-johnson-and-surprise-possible-position-switch-3767527

[Logie]

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/player-analysis/elie-youan-202223-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

Interesting tactical analysis on Elie Youan.

Great read that.. thanks for sharing!

[Callum_62]

£1.5m I think it was, which probably didn’t sit with Hibs’ valuation, because if it did he would have been sold in jig time.

The point the poster was making which I agreed with, is it’s about 80% of our signings right now can be filed under untried/a punt/a development player.

The two they have signed that have went straight in the first team, Kenneh and Miller cost nowt or in Miller’s case next to nowt. They don’t look like any upgrade on what we’ve got, maybe there’s the clue in the nominal outlay to bring them in?

Croatian LB is the same, zippo transfer fee, so another “punt” in my book.

We play that mob in the Derby in a little over 3 weeks’ time.

They’ll be “ready” in terms of personnel for that game, you can bet your house on that.

I can’t say I’m confident we will be , and that’s what Kensell and Gordon seem to fail to grasp…Are you saying signings with no transfer fee are now a punt?



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[JimBHibees]

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/player-analysis/elie-youan-202223-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

Interesting tactical analysis on Elie Youan.

Really interesting that sounds very promising

[GreenCastle]

The Scotsman: “There are new arrivals still to come into the side, in defence, midfield and attack.”

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/joe-newell-on-hibs-blip-lee-johnson-and-surprise-possible-position-switch-3767527

Don’t think that was a Newell or LJ quote ??

[Gordy M]

£1.5m I think it was, which probably didn’t sit with Hibs’ valuation, because if it did he would have been sold in jig time.

The point the poster was making which I agreed with, is it’s about 80% of our signings right now can be filed under untried/a punt/a development player.

The two they have signed that have went straight in the first team, Kenneh and Miller cost nowt or in Miller’s case next to nowt. They don’t look like any upgrade on what we’ve got, maybe there’s the clue in the nominal outlay to bring them in?

Croatian LB is the same, zippo transfer fee, so another “punt” in my book.

We play that mob in the Derby in a little over 3 weeks’ time.

They’ll be “ready” in terms of personnel for that game, you can bet your house on that.

I can’t say I’m confident we will be , and that’s what Kensell and Gordon seem to fail to grasp…

But surely if we are selling players for big transfer fees that means they are good players and have done well? So, that stategy only works if you have successful players which must benefit the team? If you replace them with punts or duds then thats a very short lived strategy?

[Heisenberg]

£1.5m I think it was, which probably didn’t sit with Hibs’ valuation, because if it did he would have been sold in jig time.

The point the poster was making which I agreed with, is it’s about 80% of our signings right now can be filed under untried/a punt/a development player.

The two they have signed that have went straight in the first team, Kenneh and Miller cost nowt or in Miller’s case next to nowt. They don’t look like any upgrade on what we’ve got, maybe there’s the clue in the nominal outlay to bring them in?

Croatian LB is the same, zippo transfer fee, so another “punt” in my book.

We play that mob in the Derby in a little over 3 weeks’ time.

They’ll be “ready” in terms of personnel for that game, you can bet your house on that.

I can’t say I’m confident we will be , and that’s what Kensell and Gordon seem to fail to grasp…

Signing players without a transfer fee doesn’t make them a “punt”. You seem to be utterly obsessed with the fact that we aren’t splashing out £500k on every signing while completely ignoring all other costs involved.

Hearts’ best signings last summer were all free transfers or in Devlin’s case next to nowt.

[Libby Hibby]

£1.5m I think it was, which probably didn’t sit with Hibs’ valuation, because if it did he would have been sold in jig time.

The point the poster was making which I agreed with, is it’s about 80% of our signings right now can be filed under untried/a punt/a development player.

The two they have signed that have went straight in the first team, Kenneh and Miller cost nowt or in Miller’s case next to nowt. They don’t look like any upgrade on what we’ve got, maybe there’s the clue in the nominal outlay to bring them in?

Croatian LB is the same, zippo transfer fee, so another “punt” in my book.

We play that mob in the Derby in a little over 3 weeks’ time.

They’ll be “ready” in terms of personnel for that game, you can bet your house on that.

I can’t say I’m confident we will be , and that’s what Kensell and Gordon seem to fail to grasp…

Hey Scotty, do you want a cuddle?

[04Sauzee]

£1.5m I think it was, which probably didn’t sit with Hibs’ valuation, because if it did he would have been sold in jig time.

The point the poster was making which I agreed with, is it’s about 80% of our signings right now can be filed under untried/a punt/a development player.

The two they have signed that have went straight in the first team, Kenneh and Miller cost nowt or in Miller’s case next to nowt. They don’t look like any upgrade on what we’ve got, maybe there’s the clue in the nominal outlay to bring them in?

Croatian LB is the same, zippo transfer fee, so another “punt” in my book.

We play that mob in the Derby in a little over 3 weeks’ time.

They’ll be “ready” in terms of personnel for that game, you can bet your house on that.

I can’t say I’m confident we will be , and that’s what Kensell and Gordon seem to fail to grasp…

Regarding the Croation LB. The official site states

'The 25-year-old has put pen-to-paper on a three-year deal and the terms of his transfer will remain undisclosed'

Not sure there was no fee involved.

[HendoDelivered]

Don’t think that was a Newell or LJ quote ??

Nope, but sounds like someone at the Scotsman has some inside info.

[1875Sean]

If you were Porto the other night I wonder how you would feel. Coming on at 1v0 down and losing against Falkirk - getting frustrated with team mates who can't score / aren't doing enough. Ok he wasn't amazing himself but he made a difference.

You also think he would surely want a decent CB to be playing alongside - hence the important we add someone else at CB so he can keep learning.

Hibs / LJ I hope aren't being messed around. Should they put a deadline in about new contract to be signed or should they sell before he's worth £0?

We don't have many players who could step up and play regularly as Captain so I wonder he would be made Captain instead.

Maybe they are waiting till towards end of transfer window to try resolve but if he leaves it may leave it with little time to replace!? Or will Porto sit tight and wait to sign a pre-contract with someone in January?

Hopefully he resigns as I'm confident he will get his move if he keeps progressing.

What difference did he make apart from almost costing another goal?

[CentreForward]

The Scotsman: “There are new arrivals still to come into the side, in defence, midfield and attack.”

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/joe-newell-on-hibs-blip-lee-johnson-and-surprise-possible-position-switch-3767527


Guessing that’s just referring to the new players we’ve already signed, but who haven’t yet featured, rather than any new signings on the way that we don’t know about.

[HendoDelivered]

Guessing that’s just referring to the new players we’ve already signed, but who haven’t yet featured, rather than any new signings on the way that we don’t know about.

To be fair, you could be right. I never thought about it like that, just assumed it meant more incomings.

[3pm]

Hey Scotty, do you want a cuddle?

I'll take one. 😍

[CentreForward]

To be fair, you could be right. I never thought about it like that, just assumed it meant more incomings.


I’m not certain but suspect he might have meant that. Anyway, one thing’s certain is that we definitely still need 1 or 2 more CM’s and at least 1 more CB. Possibly someone in an attacking position as well. Certainly think we will see more signings and let’s hope in the right positions.

[Libby Hibby]

I'll take one. 😍

Any time R, any time

[GreenCastle]

What difference did he make apart from almost costing another goal?

Well we didn’t concede 2nd half. 1st half we did.

Our passing was quicker 2nd half from the back.

We looked more dangerous from corners with Porto on the pitch.

[1875Sean]

Well we didn’t concede 2nd half. 1st half we did.

Our passing was quicker 2nd half from the back.

We looked more dangerous from corners with Porto on the pitch.

Come on, if Rocky came on and made the mistakes Ryan did we wouldn’t be hearing the end of it, we didn’t concede another because he came in we were always going to be better the second half and be further up the park

[Since452]

Since when was it Billy big baws to honour a contract you’ve signed?

The poster said that he's been offered the captaincy but is refusing to even discuss that as well as renewing his contract. Sounds a bit Billy big baws to me. Imagine turning down the honour of being captain of Hibs. Must think he's better than that. Obviously we don't know if any of that is true or not. Hopefully it isn't.

[Hibernian Verse]

Someone better tell Juventus pronto that Pogba won't be an upgrade.

[bigwheel]

The poster said that he's be offered the captaincy but is refusing to even discuss that as well as renewing his contract. Sounds a bit Billy big baws to me. Imagine turning own the honour of being captain of Hibs. Obviously we don't know if any of that is true or not. Hopefully it isn't.

Have we ever heard of captaincy being a thing with contracts ?? Also, why would someone sign a contract other than the financial terms captaincy isn’t going to turn a no into a yes …sounds implausible to me

[flash]

The poster said that he's be offered the captaincy but is refusing to even discuss that as well as renewing his contract. Sounds a bit Billy big baws to me. Imagine turning own the honour of being captain of Hibs. Obviously we don't know if any of that is true or not. Hopefully it isn't.

We have no idea if it's true but it has still resulted in one of our players, and a Hibby to boot, getting pelters from his own fans.

[Iain G]

Someone better tell Juventus pronto that Pogba won't be an upgrade.

The French Joe Newell :greengrin

[Brightside]

The poster said that he's been offered the captaincy but is refusing to even discuss that as well as renewing his contract. Sounds a bit Billy big baws to me. Imagine turning down the honour of being captain of Hibs. Must think he's better than that. Obviously we don't know if any of that is true or not. Hopefully it isn't.

He’s not been offered the captaincy

[CapitalGreen]

The poster said that he's been offered the captaincy but is refusing to even discuss that as well as renewing his contract. Sounds a bit Billy big baws to me. Imagine turning down the honour of being captain of Hibs. Must think he's better than that. Obviously we don't know if any of that is true or not. Hopefully it isn't.

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

[GreenPJ]

The poster said that he's been offered the captaincy but is refusing to even discuss that as well as renewing his contract. Sounds a bit Billy big baws to me. Imagine turning down the honour of being captain of Hibs. Must think he's better than that. Obviously we don't know if any of that is true or not. Hopefully it isn't.

I think this is all part of negotiations. If he had no intent to stay am sure he will have stated that and Hibs would be actively looking to offload. If Hibs had offered their best and final including any provisions (e.g. captaincy) and RP is not even willing to discuss then I would suspect that Hibs would have been in the press stating that we have made him the best possible offer we can and the ball is in his court - this then warms the fanbase up for when he is sold if he didn't accept.

Neither of the above have happened it seems and so expect negotiations are still ongoing.

[Leitherhibs]

He hasn't been offered the captaincy, it wasn't even a point of discussion. The original rumour (which has been substantiated by a couple of folk ITK) that he'd been offered terms similar to the Boyle contract in the region £8k p/w fully loaded, making him our best paid player, despite numerous attempts to convince him he's refused to discuss terms.

The captaincy chat seems to be a case of chinese whispers and I don't think it's any real incentive to sign.

The club need to be focussing on bringing at least 1 new CB in ASAP as we can't run with what we've got for the season ahead, either too inexperienced or regressing as a player (Hanlon) if Porteous goes this summer, which he probably will, we can't be shopping for 3 new CB's come the start of next season, really poor forward planning in an area of the pitch that should have been addressed the previous 2 summers.

[JimBHibees]

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

I dont ever believe captainy would come into any discussion on new contract. Too much potential to cause issues sounds like stirring for stirring sake

[Hibernian Verse]

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

Are you insinuating that the Moon landing did happen? Have you not seen the pictures of Armstrong's moon boot on Reddit? It's clearly a hoax.

[McGruber]

He hasn't been offered the captaincy, it wasn't even a point of discussion. The original rumour (which has been substantiated by a couple of folk ITK) that he'd been offered terms similar to the Boyle contract in the region £8k p/w fully loaded, making him our best paid player, despite numerous attempts to convince him he's refused to discuss terms.

The captaincy chat seems to be a case of chinese whispers and I don't think it's any real incentive to sign.

The club need to be focussing on bringing at least 1 new CB in ASAP as we can't run with what we've got for the season ahead, either too inexperienced or regressing as a player (Hanlon) if Porteous goes this summer, which he probably will, we can't be shopping for 3 new CB's come the start of next season, really poor forward planning in an area of the pitch that should have been addressed the previous 2 summers.

Absolutely right. Captaincy a nonesense. As if it would be a factor in contract negotiations. How would that even work - written into contract, gentleman's agreement! Get the player to sign then take it off him next day... load of rubbish.

The centre back is the real worry now like you say. Season has started, league games fast approaching. Say a new bid comes in for Porto tomorrow for good money - it can't be turned down given the contract situation and he would be off. Then, at this stage we would be needing 2 new centre backs with our only fit 2 not a match as a pairing for Falkik (one not good enough for Falkirk last year and signed to the development team)

I find it strange CB hasn't been sorted yet however contract negotiations/fees/competition from other clubs probably stalled or gazumped deals up to now.

Centre Back needs done absolute priority so we would only be looking at finding 1 if Porto suddenly goes. We have money in the bank - get it done. Shades of Nathan Wood panic buy situation starting to build

[matty_f]

Anyone who would make being Captain part of their terms in negotiations isn't Captain material, imho. I don't believe for a moment that's the case anyway, a daft rumor that's been made up and gotten out of hand because folk repeat it without thinking it through.

[Mcbizz1998]

Porteous is not as good as he thinks he is. A liability in big games with his rashness and a show pony at times.

Obviously has all the attributes to be a top player but I’m not fussed if he leaves. If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then we should bring in a replacement and make him fight for his place.

[CapitalGreen]

Porteous is not as good as he thinks he is. A liability in big games with his rashness and a show pony at times.

Obviously has all the attributes to be a top player but I’m not fussed if he leaves. If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then we should bring in a replacement and make him fight for his place.

You’re not fussed if our best centre back leaves with only 2 weeks to go before the league season starts while our next best centre back is currently recovering from surgery?

[Groathillgrump]

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/player-analysis/elie-youan-202223-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

Interesting tactical analysis on Elie Youan.

Good article. Interesting to read that Youan has previously played in the centre midfield role. I wonder if Johnson will be tempted to play him there at some point.

[Leitherhibs]

Yes he makes mistakes, yes he can be rash, but he's clearly our best centre back and by a pretty long way too, losing him at this stage would be disastrous, McLelland and Bushiri looked out of sorts against Falkirk.

[inglisavhibs]

Porteous is not as good as he thinks he is. A liability in big games with his rashness and a show pony at times.

Obviously has all the attributes to be a top player but I’m not fussed if he leaves. If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then we should bring in a replacement and make him fight for his place.
Absolute nonsense. Having attended all home games and some away ones, I came home most weeks saying that Porteous was our best player by a mile. Yes his discipline will have to improve but his ability is not in question. No doubt he made a few errors, name a player who doesn’t, but I’m struggling to remember this catalogue of errors he is supposed have made. Wait till he’s away and you will realise how good he is.

[CapitalGreen]

Absolute nonsense. Having attended all home games and some away ones, I came home most weeks saying that Porteous was our best player by a mile. Yes his discipline will have to improve but his ability is not in question. No doubt he made a few errors, name a player who doesn’t, but I’m struggling to remember this catalogue of errors he is supposed have made. Wait till he’s away and you will realise how good he is.

It is nonsense. Hibs fans (and probably fans of other clubs too) have a tendency to turn on a player when it looks like they might not leave on the terms they want and often start claiming they never rated the player anyway. It’s simply a coping mechanism for people who don’t have the emotional intelligence to accept that a player might fancy a challenge elsewhere.

[jacomo]

You’re not fussed if our best centre back leaves with only 2 weeks to go before the league season starts while our next best centre back is currently recovering from surgery?


And our best left back and a solid right back have left this summer. And we have a new keeper. Too much change all at once imo.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yes he makes mistakes, yes he can be rash, but he's clearly our best centre back and by a pretty long way too, losing him at this stage would be disastrous, McLelland and Bushiri looked out of sorts against Falkirk.

He’s not our best centre back by a long way at all imo.

Very little between him and Hanlon.

[FilipinoHibs]

And our best left back and a solid right back have left this summer. And we have a new keeper. Too much change all at once imo.

Marshall is a big uptick and can organise a defense. Doig good going forward but weak defensively.

[SlickShoes]

Absolute nonsense. Having attended all home games and some away ones, I came home most weeks saying that Porteous was our best player by a mile. Yes his discipline will have to improve but his ability is not in question. No doubt he made a few errors, name a player who doesn’t, but I’m struggling to remember this catalogue of errors he is supposed have made. Wait till he’s away and you will realise how good he is.

He makes a lot of costly mistakes, the other night he made a few that ended up not costing us, but they get swept under the rug and instead Porteous gets the credit of stabilising the team in the second half while a player like Rocky that had one dodgy head back to the goalie, gets pelters for being not good enough over the 90 minutes.

I think Porteous has all the attributes to be a good player but he doesn't use them sensibly most of the time, we all make mistakes, but he keeps making the same ones, trying to take someone on when there is no need or simply putting an easy pass to a teammate direct to the opposition.

I could list his costly errors but you could also just look them up, ones that stick in the memory are vs Aberdeen where under no pressure he passed the ball directly to an Aberdeen player who then simply ran forward and scored.

Things like charging up the pitch, supplying Melkersen with a pretty poor pass, then shouting at him for not controlling it better and getting a shot away does him no favours either. Anyone with eyes could see what happened but Ryan will blame someone else.

[SlickShoes]

And our best left back and a solid right back have left this summer. And we have a new keeper. Too much change all at once imo.

This is exactly why you can't just replace a whole team in one window, we are probably going to end up with something like 10 new players, I think we currently have 8. But, you still have people here and on other forums/social media wanting us to bring in even more players. It's just not realistic.

[.Sean.]

Swiss super league, so must be a decent standard, he's accumulating a fair amount of teams in his career so far, this will be his 9th either permanently or on loan.
Just had a look at his Wikipedia and I genuinely have no recollection whatsoever of him playing for Aberdeen :confused:

[Dmas]

He’s not our best centre back by a long way at all imo.

Very little between him and Hanlon.

Hanlon well in front of them all on my book I think we get more out of Porto with Hanlon beside him and I think Hanlon will settle Rocky down should they be partnered, he’s not a shouter but Paul does a good job organising the defence we miss him when he’s not in the team.

[MWHIBBIES]

Porteous is not as good as he thinks he is. A liability in big games with his rashness and a show pony at times.

Obviously has all the attributes to be a top player but I’m not fussed if he leaves. If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then we should bring in a replacement and make him fight for his place.

How good does he think he is?

FWIW, he is pretty clearly very good, and his best performances for Hibs have been in big games.

[Since452]

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

If you'd read the rest of my post you'd know the answer to that.

[Mcbizz1998]

You’re not fussed if our best centre back leaves with only 2 weeks to go before the league season starts while our next best centre back is currently recovering from surgery?

I said we should replace him. If we let him go without that then I would be extremely fussed.

[Mcbizz1998]

It is nonsense. Hibs fans (and probably fans of other clubs too) have a tendency to turn on a player when it looks like they might not leave on the terms they want and often start claiming they never rated the player anyway. It’s simply a coping mechanism for people who don’t have the emotional intelligence to accept that a player might fancy a challenge elsewhere.

Ah ok. You are more emotionally intelligent than anyone who might not think that Porteous is as good a player as you do.

[emoji23]

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ah ok. You are more emotionally intelligent than anyone who might not think that Porteous is as good a player as you do.

[emoji23]

:greengrin

Seen similar yesterday with someone suggesting that most people hadn’t been able to get over Joe Newells bad start and so couldn’t form an honest opinion of the guy.

They of course managed just fine with that and were more capable than most others of getting over it and making a more informed judgment.

[Stuart93]

How good does he think he is?

FWIW, he is pretty clearly very good, and his best performances for Hibs have been in big games.

Which big games?

He’s also had a few howlers in big games as well including his sending offs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Which big games?

He’s also had a few howlers in big games as well including his sending offs.

Yup. Big games have certainly often brought out his worst moments.

[BILLYHIBS]

Raphinha joins Barca from Leeds in a deal worth 55m

BBC Sport

[Stuart93]

Yup. Big games have certainly often brought out his worst moments.

I’m just interested to know which big games he’s referring to. There’s probably been some but I can’t think of them off the top of my head.

The ones where he’s been sent off are easier to recall for that reason.

[GordonHFC]

Raphinha joins Barca from Leeds in a deal worth 55m

BBC Sport

How come a team like that can spend billions they don't have and get away with it?

Let's go for it 🤣🤣🤣

[patlowe]

Marshall is a big uptick and can organise a defense. Doig good going forward but weak defensively.

Kind of moot now but this is a bit of a myth re Doig IMO. He got caught at the back post a couple of times in his first season but overall his defensive stats were very good. Going forward he has a great engine and gets the team up the park, but it's in the final third where he will need to develop - compared to someone like Ramsay he is far less decisive in those areas.

[04Sauzee]

Hearts are reportedly trying to get Elliott Anderson on loan. That would be a cracking signing for them and imagine that would be instead of Connor Ronan.

[California-Hibs]

Anyone else hearing anything about Boyle returning? Is there genuine legs in it or purely wishful thinking? What a difference he'd make as we (and the rest of the league) know. 🙏

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m just interested to know which big games he’s referring to. There’s probably been some but I can’t think of them off the top of my head.

The ones where he’s been sent off are easier to recall for that reason.

He played well at Hampden in the 3-0 Rangers game. He’s had a few decent performances in other big games as well but I wouldn’t say there’s many where I’ve walked away and thought it was some sort of Herculean performance from him.

He’s been part of a team that hasn’t had a great record against either of the OF, Hearts or Aberdeen since he broke through and I don’t often recall his performances being anything extraordinary.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hearts are reportedly trying to get Elliott Anderson on loan. That would be a cracking signing for them and imagine that would be instead of Connor Ronan.

He seems to be very highly regarded. Would be a very good signing for them if he’s as good as made out. They’ve plenty experience in their team as well to help him along as well.

[JeMeSouviens]

He played well at Hampden in the 3-0 Rangers game. He’s had a few decent performances in other big games as well but I wouldn’t say there’s many where I’ve walked away and thought it was some sort of Herculean performance from him.

He’s been part of a team that hasn’t had a great record against either of the OF, Hearts or Aberdeen since he broke through and I don’t often recall his performances being anything extraordinary.

Do you mean the 3-1 game, where their 1 came from a piss poor Porto clearance straight to Arfield? :wink:

To be fair, he defended brilliantly apart from that 1 mistake.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Do you mean the 3-1 game, where their 1 came from a piss poor Porto clearance straight to Arfield? :wink:

To be fair, he defended brilliantly apart from that 1 mistake.

I’ve spent so long talking and thinking about Boyles hatrick that I actually forgot they even scored :faf:

That was indeed a bit of a stinker.

[Alex Trager]

He seems to be very highly regarded. Would be a very good signing for them if he’s as good as made out. They’ve plenty experience in their team as well to help him along as well.

Were we not said to be after him?

[xqnq1875]

Hearts are reportedly trying to get Elliott Anderson on loan. That would be a cracking signing for them and imagine that would be instead of Connor Ronan.

Honestly a player we should be looking at as well, we were rumoured to be interested in him a few weeks ago but was nothing it it


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[Paulie Walnuts]

Were we not said to be after him?

He’s definitely been mentioned on here or else I’d have never heard of the guy. No idea if there’s anything in it though.

[Stuart93]

Hearts are reportedly trying to get Elliott Anderson on loan. That would be a cracking signing for them and imagine that would be instead of Connor Ronan.

We need a player in the door like this.

A goalscoring creative midfielder.

[Souter96Mac]

Would love us to sign Anderson. Seen him a couple times for Newcastle, and followed his loan move last year. Boy looks like a real player. He's away with the rest of the squad in the training camp currently, so suspect Howe will decide whether or not he will contribute in the first team squad or not. If not, Hibs should be all over it.

[Stuart93]

Would love us to sign Anderson. Seen him a couple times for Newcastle, and followed his loan move last year. Boy looks like a real player. He's away with the rest of the squad in the training camp currently, so suspect Howe will decide whether or not he will contribute in the first team squad or not. If not, Hibs should be all over it.

Especially now we’ve got some money to play with

[SlickShoes]

He played well at Hampden in the 3-0 Rangers game. He’s had a few decent performances in other big games as well but I wouldn’t say there’s many where I’ve walked away and thought it was some sort of Herculean performance from him.

He’s been part of a team that hasn’t had a great record against either of the OF, Hearts or Aberdeen since he broke through and I don’t often recall his performances being anything extraordinary.

It was 3-1 and it was only 3-1 because of his error for the goal.

[McGruber]

It was 3-1 and it was only 3-1 because of his error for the goal.

And because of his brilliant defending before and after his mistake for the goal, seeing us only concede 1 and win the game

[Suburban Hibby]

He played well at Hampden in the 3-0 Rangers game. He’s had a few decent performances in other big games as well but I wouldn’t say there’s many where I’ve walked away and thought it was some sort of Herculean performance from him.

He’s been part of a team that hasn’t had a great record against either of the OF, Hearts or Aberdeen since he broke through and I don’t often recall his performances being anything extraordinary.

Hearts game at ER last season,,think it was Dabriwskis game- last 20 mins we were under the cosh and he was an absolute leader and got us the draw- was immense.

[04Sauzee]

Calum Butcher leaves Dundee Utd and joins Burton Albion.

[jacomo]

How come a team like that can spend billions they don't have and get away with it?

Let's go for it 🤣🤣🤣


Barca are a disgrace these days. Makes a mockery of their so-called values.

[CapitalGreen]

Especially now we’ve got some money to play with

If Anderson is leaving Newcastle this summer it will only be on loan. I remember you saying just a couple of days ago you hoped we stopped signing players on loan, particularly if they are young with little first team experience.

[Stuart93]

If Anderson is leaving Newcastle this summer it will only be on loan. I remember you saying just a couple of days ago you hoped we stopped signing players on loan, particularly if they are young with little first team experience.

That’s correct. I wouldn’t fancy any more loans especially of players that have had little first team experience. But this Anderson lad has.

Loan to buys aren’t too bad. Would much rather we just bought out right though

I was unaware you were keeping a note of my posts however.

[04Sauzee]

Scott Burns ( everyone's favourite) reporting that Dundee Utd are still after McGrath from Wigan, Utd fans believe that Shinnie may be on his way also.

[Billy Whizz]

Calum Butcher leaves Dundee Utd and joins Burton Albion.

Was there not allegedly an incident with him and another United’s players wife, that led to his suspension last season

[Stuart93]

Scott Burns ( everyone's favourite) reporting that Dundee Utd are still after McGrath from Wigan, Utd fans believe that Shinnie may be on his way also.

They’d have some team if they managed to get McGrath and Shinnie. 2 players I’d take in our midfield

[500miles]

Was there not allegedly an incident with him and another United’s players wife, that led to his suspension last season

Did he go in two footed?

[04Sauzee]

They’d have some team if they managed to get McGrath and Shinnie. 2 players I’d take in our midfield

Burns hasn't mentioned Shinnie just rumours amongst the Utd fans.

Could be Levitt,Shinnie and McGrath in that midfield if those rumours are off course true

[18Craig75]

If Shinne is available we need to be all over it. Past his peak but could be a great mentor for Kenneh as well as providing valuable cover.

[04Sauzee]

Was there not allegedly an incident with him and another United’s players wife, that led to his suspension last season

There was, he was never going to play for Utd again

[WeeRussell]

Was there not allegedly an incident with him and another United’s players wife, that led to his suspension last season

Siegrest I think. Butcher was never going to be playing for United again.

[CapitalGreen]

That’s correct. I wouldn’t fancy any more loans especially of players that have had little first team experience. But this Anderson lad has.

Loan to buys aren’t too bad. Would much rather we just bought out right though

I was unaware you were keeping a note of my posts however.

A total of 20 starts in the 4th tier in England is hardly significant first team experience is it?

[Lago]

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
I don't even believe everything I read on .net, sometimes I don't believe anything.

[BegbieHSC]

They’d have some team if they managed to get McGrath and Shinnie. 2 players I’d take in our midfield

Add Levitt to it, and that’s an excellent midfield. One id bite your hand off for.

[Stuart93]

A total of 20 starts in the 4th tier in England is hardly significant first team experience is it?

I never said it was significant but it’s first team experience regardless and done very well at the same time.

Stats were pretty impressive from midfield

[Stuart93]

Add Levitt to it, and that’s an excellent midfield. One id bite your hand off for.

Oh aye forgot about levitt. Very good looking midfield, great mix

[BegbieHSC]

Oh aye forgot about levitt. Very good looking midfield, great mix

If they have that midfield, and we still have our current one, they’ll finish above us in the league. They look like they’re finally getting their act together.

[CapitalGreen]

I never said it was significant but it’s first team experience regardless and done very well at the same time.

Stats were pretty impressive from midfield

They are very impressive. Which is an example of why it’s daft to suggest we should restrict our recruitment by applying arbitrary parameters on age and experience or whether they cost money rather than just determining whether a player is good enough or not 👍

[WeeRussell]

They’d have some team if they managed to get McGrath and Shinnie. 2 players I’d take in our midfield

I’d take Jim McGrath and a pair of Nike shinnies in our midfield just now.

[matty_f]

They are very impressive. Which is an example of why it’s daft to suggest we should restrict our recruitment by applying arbitrary parameters on age and experience or whether they cost money rather than just determining whether a player is good enough or not 👍

Spot on.

[Since452]

Scott Burns ( everyone's favourite) reporting that Dundee Utd are still after McGrath from Wigan, Utd fans believe that Shinnie may be on his way also.

Dundee United will push on under Ross. Hopefully Europe is a hindrance to them.

[Hibbyradge]

I don't even believe everything I read on .net, sometimes I don't believe anything.

I sometimes don't believe what I read even if I've written it!

Beat that!

[matty_f]

I sometimes don't believe what I read even if I've written it!

Beat that!

I don't believe you.

[SHODAN]

United seem to be after everyone we should be after.

[green day]

United seem to be after everyone we should be after.

And despite all these rumours have barely signed anyone.

[Hibbyradge]

I don't believe you.

Yes you do.

[Unseen work]

I’ll start worrying if United actually get McGrath and Shinnie, would be two very good signings along with McGrath.

But until then I’m calm 😅

Only thing about that midfield is I’m not sure there’s enough defensive minded players in there for a Jack Ross team. Levitt isn’t brilliant defensively and McGrath 100% isn’t.

[matty_f]

Yes you do.

Now I don't know what to think.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Dundee United will push on under Ross. Hopefully Europe is a hindrance to them.

You’d imagine they’ll be out very very early so I don’t think europe will make a lot of odds to their season.

Only way it’ll impact them is if they miraculously make the groups I reckon. If anything, getting into Europe and getting knocked out early should give your league campaign a boost. Having to play competitive games at a high level can only get you ready for the league better than pre season games and league cup games against part time teams like what the others are doing.

[erin go bragh]

I’ll start worrying if United actually get McGrath and Shinnie, would be two very good signings along with McGrath.

But until then I’m calm 😅

Only thing about that midfield is I’m not sure there’s enough defensive minded players in there for a Jack Ross team. Levitt isn’t brilliant defensively and McGrath 100% isn’t.

How many McGraths are they after 😉🤣

[Stuart93]

They are very impressive. Which is an example of why it’s daft to suggest we should restrict our recruitment by applying arbitrary parameters on age and experience or whether they cost money rather than just determining whether a player is good enough or not 👍

Yep fair enough mate, that’s a very good point

[Ozyhibby]

Someone better tell Juventus pronto that Pogba won't be an upgrade.

I’m not sure he is.


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[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen announce Louis Lopes on a 3 year deal from Benfica B

[GordonHFC]

Aberdeen announce Louis Lopes on a 3 year deal from Benfica B

Has he only got one eye?

[supermcginn]

Anderson started for Newcastle today in a very strong line up. He won't be coming to Scotland if he even leaves Newcastle on loan at all. He's going to the top.

[Smartie]

If they have that midfield, and we still have our current one, they’ll finish above us in the league. They look like they’re finally getting their act together.

If they get that midfield and we keep our current one, I wouldn't bet against them finishing 7 or 8 places above us.

They probably won't though and I'd be astonished if Lee Johnson actually thought our current midfield was anywhere near being up to the task (in spite of what he might have been saying).

[flash]

If they get that midfield and we keep our current one, I wouldn't bet against them finishing 7 or 8 places above us.

They probably won't though and I'd be astonished if Lee Johnson actually thought our current midfield was anywhere near being up to the task (in spite of what he might have been saying).

7 or 8 places above us?

Gies peace.

[Victor]

If they get that midfield and we keep our current one, I wouldn't bet against them finishing 7 or 8 places above us.

They probably won't though and I'd be astonished if Lee Johnson actually thought our current midfield was anywhere near being up to the task (in spite of what he might have been saying).

You know there are only 12 teams in the league? There is no way they will finish in the top 4, so what you are saying is that Hibs will be in the relegation or play-off spot, if they play the terrible trio?

[Hibbyradge]

Now I don't know what to think.

At least you're willing to listen to reasoned argument.

[whiskyhibby]

If they get that midfield and we keep our current one, I wouldn't bet against them finishing 7 or 8 places above us.

They probably won't though and I'd be astonished if Lee Johnson actually thought our current midfield was anywhere near being up to the task (in spite of what he might have been saying).


🤣🤣🤣 what on earth have you been drinking recently 😂😂😂

[Paulie Walnuts]

You know there are only 12 teams in the league? There is no way they will finish in the top 4, so what you are saying is that Hibs will be in the relegation or play-off spot, if they play the terrible trio?

I don’t think they’ll finish top four either. They did last season though and that would be a much better midfield than they had last season so I wouldn’t bet against it.

[Smartie]

I think that midfield for them would be a top 4 midfield. They were top 4 last season and look like they've improved.

I've watched that midfield play most weeks for us last season - and our form from October onwards was bottom 2 (I think only Dundee were worse, and they've been relegated). We were pish almost every week in the league, they were the main problem position and no amount of magic dust from Lee Johnson would make that different next season.

Our trio the other night were comprehensively outplayed by a league one side. In fairness to Falkirk, I think they're better than league one level and their midfield to be looked probably upper Championship standard. I think that Newell, JDH and Campbell together are Championship standard, only probably bottom half.

Individually I think any of the three of them might be part of a decent midfield. Magennis might come in and make a difference, as he did at the start of last season. I wouldn't be putting any money on him not spending much of the season injured though. Kenneh might make a difference, and the first half against Clyde was good (if probably not a great indicator).

I think we need at least one more midfielder.

It honestly surprises me that anyone would think that the midfield who were as pish as they were the other night (exactly as pish as they were together last season) would somehow miraculously transform into something better. There is literally nothing to suggest they would.

Fortunately - I don't think we'll EVER see them play together again (barring a catastrophic few injuries to certain players) so ultimately it's all a bit of a moot point.

[Big_Franck]

I think that midfield for them would be a top 4 midfield. They were top 4 last season and look like they've improved.

I've watched that midfield play most weeks for us last season - and our form from October onwards was bottom 2 (I think only Dundee were worse, and they've been relegated). We were pish almost every week in the league, they were the main problem position and no amount of magic dust from Lee Johnson would make that different next season.

Our trio the other night were comprehensively outplayed by a league one side. In fairness to Falkirk, I think they're better than league one level and their midfield to be looked probably upper Championship standard. I think that Newell, JDH and Campbell together are Championship standard, only probably bottom half.

Individually I think any of the three of them might be part of a decent midfield. Magennis might come in and make a difference, as he did at the start of last season. I wouldn't be putting any money on him not spending much of the season injured though. Kenneh might make a difference, and the first half against Clyde was good (if probably not a great indicator).

I think we need at least one more midfielder.

It honestly surprises me that anyone would think that the midfield who were as pish as they were the other night (exactly as pish as they were together last season) would somehow miraculously transform into something better. There is literally nothing to suggest they would.

Fortunately - I don't think we'll EVER see them play together again (barring a catastrophic few injuries to certain players) so ultimately it's all a bit of a moot point.

I disagree with your last paragraph, unfortunately. I think there's a very good chance we'll see that exact midfield a number of times again this season unless we sign more quality, ready to go top 3/4 Scottish Premiership standard players.

After the sale of Boyle and Doig we absolutely have the money to be signing experienced pros in midfield that are at a level to come in and help us challenge for the top 3/4 places in the league, they don't have to be world beaters to do so. No more projects for 2/3 years down the line please, as we've got plenty of those already.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Fortunately - I don't think we'll EVER see them play together again (barring a catastrophic few injuries to certain players) so ultimately it's all a bit of a moot point.

oh i wouldn't bet on that :greengrin

[Allant1981]

If they get that midfield and we keep our current one, I wouldn't bet against them finishing 7 or 8 places above us.

They probably won't though and I'd be astonished if Lee Johnson actually thought our current midfield was anywhere near being up to the task (in spite of what he might have been saying).

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Unseen work]

Although I think we still need another attacking midfielder I think Henderson will be huge for us this season.

Last year he came in after not playing in ages and done well, with a bit more luck/sharpness he genuinely could have got double figures due to the positions he found himself in.

Even this season so far he scored against Hartlepool, played a brilliant ball to Campbell for Doidge’s goal against Burton and then got an assist against Clyde. Against Falkirk he came on and had a shot off the line and then another off the bar.

A lot of ifs buts and maybes but I honestly think we’ll see him score and create alot this season, also seemed to look stronger and half a yard quicker.

[stokesmessiah]

Although I think we still need another attacking midfielder I think Henderson will be huge for us this season.

Last year he came in after not playing in ages and done well, with a bit more luck/sharpness he genuinely could have got double figures due to the positions he found himself in.

Even this season so far he scored against Hartlepool, played a brilliant ball to Campbell for Doidge’s goal against Burton and then got an assist against Clyde. Against Falkirk he came on and had a shot off the line and then another off the bar.

A lot of ifs buts and maybes but I honestly think we’ll see him score and create alot this season, also seemed to look stronger and half a hard quicker.

The last four words of your post….been affecting me more and more as I get into my 40’s.

[Unseen work]

The last four words of your post….been affecting me more and more as I get into my 40’s.

🤣🤣🤣edited!

[Smartie]

Although I think we still need another attacking midfielder I think Henderson will be huge for us this season.

Last year he came in after not playing in ages and done well, with a bit more luck/sharpness he genuinely could have got double figures due to the positions he found himself in.

Even this season so far he scored against Hartlepool, played a brilliant ball to Campbell for Doidge’s goal against Burton and then got an assist against Clyde. Against Falkirk he came on and had a shot off the line and then another off the bar.

A lot of ifs buts and maybes but I honestly think we’ll see him score and create alot this season, also seemed to look stronger and half a hard quicker.

He's possibly been the most impressive player for us this season and I thought that from the 2 derbies on he showed quite a bit, albeit he'd fade in and out.

Definitely much more like part of the solution than part of the problem.

He'd be a first pick for me, although I'm still not sure about playing where and in which formation.

[Hibbyradge]

The last four words of your post….been affecting me more and more as I get into my 40’s.

Wait till your 60s! :bitchy:

[Heisenberg]

Credited with an interest in Anderson now too.

https://twitter.com/mhendry92/status/1548027654909046788?s=21&t=3FUtCc7fCMwN6NQ8YEZtYQ

Would imagine if there’s Championship interest he’ll go there. Hearts and European football could also be too much to compete with.