Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[Since452]

I'd imagine this is another that had already been agreed prior to Lee arriving and required him to sign off on it.

[Smartie]

https://youtu.be/v_kVNVVry6U

Ooft.

Pick that one out ya ****.

[Callum_62]

https://www.footballfancast.com/leeds-united-news/leeds-united-marcelo-bielsa-jesse-marsch-nohan-kenneh-premier-league-academy-team-news-elland-road

well....sounds decent!

[04Sauzee]

Chief writer at the Yorkshire evening post tweeted

Leeds United wanted to keep him. Kenneh evidently sees a better chance of playing elsewhere. By all accounts a very good lad, has worked his socks off for his education as well as his football.

[JohnM1875]

Really exciting day for us today. Two great signings by the looks of things! Buzzing is an understatement.

[Vault Boy]

I am officially overexcited about Don't Mess With the Nohan.

Fully expecting Vieira-esque performances having had a read of what Leeds fans have to say.

Welcome to the Hibees, sounds like a coup!

[Stuarty1875]

Really pleased with both signings.

Marshall is a solid keeper and an upgrade on Macey. Kenneh Sounds very promising :top marks

[Paulie Walnuts]

So is he a centre mid or centre half? Seems to be suggested online he’s a centre half who only started playing centre mid very recently.

[Steve88]

The best part about this signing is it signals the end of JDH + JN partnership

No more side to side crab football with two DM's

[bigwheel]

The best part about this signing is it signals the end of JDH + JN partnership

No more side to side crab football with two DM's

He’s got to secure a regular starting slot first ! early days …

[Vault Boy]

So is he a centre mid or centre half? Seems to be suggested online he’s a centre half who only started playing centre mid very recently.

I think it's the opposite. Was covering at CB but primarily a midfielder.

[Since452]

Sounds like a player for the B team.

[04Sauzee]

His farewell tweet to the Leeds fans . Wonder if he's 1st team or for our development team?

https://twitter.com/nkenneh54/status/1528785166373625858?t=iGsAhISDaG7NeTCOTnmcng&s=19

[Vault Boy]

Sounds like a player for the B team.

He wouldn't leave Leeds second team to join ours

[Aldo]

Sounds like a player for the B team.

He’s a first team player!


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[04Sauzee]

Sounds like a player for the B team.

Was wondering that but do they normally have twitter reveals like that? Interesting to see if he is 1st team or development.

[Lee Marvin]

Sounds like a player for the B team.

Think you need to do a little more research..No chance is this a B team signing

[Callum_62]

To be fair he sounds like someone who will be expected to be a main player in our team

Probably part of why he's chosen to come here

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[Allant1981]

The best part about this signing is it signals the end of JDH + JN partnership

No more side to side crab football with two DM's

Does it?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Does it?

I think that’s his No.6

Just needs an 8 and a 10 now. Or something.

[Ozyhibby]

The best part about this signing is it signals the end of JDH + JN partnership

No more side to side crab football with two DM's

You would have to hope the arrival of a new manager would signal that otherwise he’ll end up sacked.


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[04Sauzee]

Sounds like a player for the B team.

This is from the Hibs official site

'Nohan Kenneh joins Hibernian FC with huge potential and is now looking to play First Team football regularly'

[Wilson]

This is from the Hibs official site

'Nohan Kenneh joins Hibernian FC with huge potential and is now looking to play First Team football regularly'

Makes sense. I'd expect him to feature in our league cup games with the expectation that he is competing for further first team starts.

Best of luck to him.

Welcome to hibs.

[Since452]

This is from the Hibs official site

'Nohan Kenneh joins Hibernian FC with huge potential and is now looking to play First Team football regularly'

Interesting. Huge ask for him to go right in the first team.

[Stevie Reid]

Addressing the spine of the team with the first two signings. Encouraging.

[Unseen work]

Interesting signing. You’d imagine that whilst identified by the recruitment team Johnson would have knowledge of him.

Leeds fans being sad to see him go is a positive but have any of them actually seen him play?

Whilst it sounds hugely exciting I’d be surprised and dissapointed if the club, and Johnson, both thought that was us now sorted in centre mid.

He may have huge potential but it’s all been for youth teams, we need some quality in there to compliment him.

The way Johnson plays sounds like he’ll rely heavily on a number ‘6’, is he surprised if he put all of his faith in a 19 year old with no first teams games. Unless he battles it out with JDH but even at that..

But anyway, welcome to the club Kenneh and Marshall, a very good start to our recruitment by the sounds of it

[huggie1875]

Interesting signing. You’d imagine that whilst identified by the recruitment team Johnson would have knowledge of him.

Leeds fans being sad to see him go is a positive but have any of them actually seen him play?

Whilst it sounds hugely exciting I’d be surprised and dissapointed if the club, and Johnson, both thought that was us now sorted in centre mid.

He may have huge potential but it’s all been for youth teams, we need some quality in there to compliment him.

The way Johnson plays sounds like he’ll rely heavily on a number ‘6’, is he surprised if he put all of his faith in a 19 year old with no first teams games. Unless he battles it out with JDH but even at that..

But anyway, welcome to the club Kenneh and Marshall, a very good start to our recruitment by the sounds of it

chin up buddy

[Dazzjw1875]

Is this maybe someone Lee Johsone had identified early doors after his first chat in London? I know he mentioned he straight away looked to see who is available etc could be his contact tiped him off and he notified Hibs.? Regardless very good start getting the spine sorted of the team, hopefully sign of things to come couple of strikers/poacher and fast direct wingers before pre season and very happy!

[Paul1642]

Interesting. Huge ask for him to go right in the first team.

Don’t see why. Over the years we have had plenty prospects from our own academy hold down a spot in the first team in their teens. No reason why a good prospect from a Premiership club with youth apps for England can’t do it.

[bingo70]

Saw a Leeds fan tweet that we will have got him as Lee Johnson has a great relationship with people at Leeds, also says he has good contacts at Man City (the tweet named who his contact is), can’t find that tweet but could be exciting, obviously as long as we get the balance right and it’s not all young untried players.

[gbhibby]

https://www.footballfancast.com/leeds-united-news/leeds-united-marcelo-bielsa-jesse-marsch-nohan-kenneh-premier-league-academy-team-news-elland-road
Hope he does the business


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[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it's the opposite. Was covering at CB but primarily a midfielder.

Ah ok thanks. Fingers crossed then as I think he sounds on paper exactly what we need in midfield.

[Lago]

Interesting. Huge ask for him to go right in the first team.
Why he's 19 not 16 years old. Why is it down south players of that age are regularly playing fist team football in the two top divisions, yet in Scotland they are considered too young.

[Unseen work]

chin up buddy

It’s not a knock on the players/club I’m just very wary signing youth players from England and making them out to be the next best thing. Just look at Nathan Wood, Darnell Johnson etc

[Ozyhibby]

It’s not a knock on the players/club I’m just very wary signing youth players from England and making them out to be the next best thing. Just look at Nathan Wood, Darnell Johnson etc

Agreed. Until a player has played all age football, they haven’t really proven themselves at all.


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[Since452]

Why he's 19 not 16 years old. Why is it down south players of that age are regularly playing fist team football in the two top divisions, yet in Scotland they are considered too young.

He's had no first team football at all. Look at Nathan Wood for example. He'd played a fair bit of first team football and was like a fish out of water up here.

[B.H.F.C]

He's had no first team football at all. Look at Nathan Wood for example. He'd played a fair bit of first team football and was like a fish out of water up here.

I get the point and nobody can say whether he’ll be good, bad or indifferent. But experience isn’t everything, we’ve got (and had) plenty of pish experienced players as well.

[Wilson]

It’s not a knock on the players/club I’m just very wary signing youth players from England and making them out to be the next best thing. Just look at Nathan Wood, Darnell Johnson etc

We're due one touted the next best thing that actually is. To be fair we won't know until we see him play. But we don't know he isn't ready either. It is a promising sounding signing and it is a positive that we are getting our deals done.

[Pretty Boy]

I want players at Hibs who have the ability and aspiration to play at a higher level. If players want to do that then they need to be in our 1st team, or there or thereabouts by their late teens or very early 20s. There are probably a few exceptions that prove the rule but not many guys who are still struggling to break into the Hibs 1st team at 23 or 24 will ever make it here, never mind at a higher level.

This guys seems like someone we hope to get a couple fo years out of before selling for a profit. Great, as long as have another 1 or 2 lined up. I'd be stunned if he's not being viewed as very much a 1st team player.

If he flops then it's not age but ability that will have been the problem.

[Smartie]

Agreed. Until a player has played all age football, they haven’t really proven themselves at all.


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There's a very long way from where he is now to the first team at a Premiership club though.

There will be plenty of excellent players who fall just short of being the kind that their club can feel confident taking a punt on.

I like the sound of the guy and I've liked Hibs teams of the past that have been bursting with youth and energy.

Obviously we'll need to have some experience elsewhere, and it looks like our other, very decent signing of today will provide some of that.

Overall I'd say that from the moment Maloney was given his jotters on, I've been happy with Hibs. Ron Gordon has spoken well and he's backed up his words with a decent managerial appointment and a couple of excellent early signings.

This is much more like it from Hibs imo.

[Unseen work]

We're due one touted the next best thing that actually is. To be fair we won't know until we see him play. But we don't know he isn't ready either. It is a promising sounding signing and it is a positive that we are getting our deals done.

100% agree

[bingo70]

I wonder if signing young players like this is better when we sign them and are able to give them a proper pre-season. Signing them at the last minute or in January doesn’t give them time to settle in and adjust to first team football.

[HoboHarry]

Player's name is going to be misspelled all over the place. Petrie oot.....

[cabbageandribs1875]

interview with the lad last year Nohan Kenneh - Fight or Flight - The Secret Scout (http://www.secretscout.co.uk/nohan-kenneh-leeds-united/) i presume part of the Leeds u23's that have been relegated


not in that article but he did manage to make the bench a few times lately with Marsch as manager


but anyway, the lad has went from the best club in England to the best club in Scotland, marching on together Nohan :cb

[CL0762]

Saw a Leeds fan tweet that we will have got him as Lee Johnson has a great relationship with people at Leeds, also says he has good contacts at Man City (the tweet named who his contact is), can’t find that tweet but could be exciting, obviously as long as we get the balance right and it’s not all young untried players.

Brian Marwood, I’m sure he’s the head of scouting or has a position similar to director of football at Man City. He spoke about it in his press conference last week.

This is an excellent signing, he’s been very highly rated for a number of years and the fact he’s left the u23 at Leeds to come and play first team football he’ll be champing at the bit.

Great start to the Johnson era.


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[Unseen work]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd6MTNxKmVo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Can’t believe some don’t rate him.

Very good first season in mens football, hope we take up the option to buy (within reason based on the fee)

[Smartie]

I wonder if signing young players like this is better when we sign them and are able to give them a proper pre-season. Signing them at the last minute or in January doesn’t give them time to settle in and adjust to first team football.

I think there's something in that.

Same with managers, this is a better time to make a change.

Some of the guys brought in in January have obvious talent but have struggled more than they ought to have by being thrown into a struggling team, lacking in creativity with the fans on their backs a bit.

A proper pre-season, a few friendlies then starting with competitive league cup games is an excellent way to bring youngsters into the team. And experienced players joining up with a new manager, club, league, way of playing etc...

[JohnM1875]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd6MTNxKmVo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Can’t believe some don’t rate him.

Very good first season in mens football, hope we take up the option to buy (within reason based on the fee)

He's young and has plenty of time to improve and I'm sure he will. I'd sign him but only if the fee was small. Doesn't half love posting clips of his skills and dribbles though eh, fair play to him!

[A Hi-Bee]

Good signing by all accounts, if your good enough then your old enough.
Welcome to Hibs Kenneh
:flag::flag::flag:

[Inconsequential]

What’s this negativity based on? His age? The two best keepers in the league last season are older than him.

His track record? Can’t see anything in there that blots his book.

Players get injured and recover all the time. It was a hamstring. I’d be more concerned if it was something in his shoulder/hand Doesn't mean a thing that the best keepers are older than him (in your opinion). He might be past his best he might not. Hibs have a history of signing injured players that has not gone well. Did you see him play this season? If you have please inform everyone what his form is like. He is not the Messiah and too old to be a naughty boy. :wink:

[Mcbizz1998]

Pleased enough with Kenneh. Never heard of him but if he is as highly rated as being suggested then imagine he had other offers but has come here to play first team football. Still young but looks physically mature.

The rebuild off ti a good start.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Do we think that macey will be away?

[JohnM1875]

Do we think that macey will be away?

Think so personally, sure I read there were a few English clubs looking at him.

Don't think Macey has been bad at all, actually think he's been good but Marshall is a definite upgrade for me with Dabrowski a great young back up who I'd give the league cup games to.

[Stonewall]

Why he's 19 not 16 years old. Why is it down south players of that age are regularly playing fist team football in the two top divisions, yet in Scotland they are considered too young.

Because managers would rather play a 30 year old journeyman who is less likely to make mistakes rather than a promising youngster. In short they're frightened.

[Dmas]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd6MTNxKmVo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Can’t believe some don’t rate him.

Very good first season in mens football, hope we take up the option to buy (within reason based on the fee)

I’m not sure at all, not a lot of end product with him, think he really stood out in a team void of any creativity rather than what he was doing being of any quality don’t fault his effort since he came here but I’d be reluctant to pay any sort of fee for him

[Aldo]

How many Dortmund fans had heard of Jude Bellingham when he signed??

That turned out ok I think!


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[MWHIBBIES]

How many Dortmund fans had heard of Jude Bellingham when he signed??

That turned out ok I think!


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He was one of the most hyped young players in the world tbh. Turned down Man United.

[Hibernian Verse]

Because managers would rather play a 30 year old journeyman who is less likely to make mistakes rather than a promising youngster. In short they're frightened.

Don’t think LJ will have that mentality thankfully

[Tyler Durden]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd6MTNxKmVo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Can’t believe some don’t rate him.

Very good first season in mens football, hope we take up the option to buy (within reason based on the fee)

I find this quite embarrassing to be honest. He’s had a very average spell with us - curtailed somewhat by injuries - and he has someone making up clip reels of skills?

It’s a modern thing of course but he’s meant to be a pro, not a TikTok skills account. Noticeable that there was maybe 1 or 2 goals in that reel and roughly same number of assists.

Could be a player with the right coach and the right attitude but I wouldn’t rush to gamble our budget on him personally.

[Green Reaper]

Doesn't mean a thing that the best keepers are older than him (in your opinion). He might be past his best he might not. Hibs have a history of signing injured players that has not gone well. Did you see him play this season? If you have please inform everyone what his form is like. He is not the Messiah and too old to be a naughty boy. :wink:

Hibs also have a history of signing older goalies that has worked well for us in the past

[Aldo]

He was one of the most hyped young players in the world tbh. Turned down Man United.

MW indeed he was.

You’ll gather I was just hyping our new lad up! [emoji51]


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[timewilltell]

Doesn't mean a thing that the best keepers are older than him (in your opinion). He might be past his best he might not. Hibs have a history of signing injured players that has not gone well. Did you see him play this season? If you have please inform everyone what his form is like. He is not the Messiah and too old to be a naughty boy. :wink:

God, give it a rest! Yiu are so negative!

[Turkish Green]

I never understood the benefit to Scottish clubs of English clubs sending their U23 players to Scotland to get experience. The young player may get experience but what does the Scottish club get out of the deal.

What did Hibs get from bringing in Bushiri, Scott, Henderson, Wood, Jasper & Clarke?

[Tyler Durden]

I think Ian Gordon is saying the right things today. We need young hungry players that we can develop at Hibs. We also need a core of experience.

It’s not rocket science but we’ve made a solid start to the rebuild today IMO. Keep them coming, hopefully a wide player with pace is in our sights aswell.

[Spike Mandela]

Hearing the same sort of stuff as we heard when we signed Melkerson. He is not a first team immediately type signing he is a long term project imo. Melkerson was only getting starts because all our main strikers were injured.

I think it’s the same with Kenneh if he kicks on he might get in the first team but Hibs look like they are playing the long game with some of the signings in the last two windows and if the strategy works we could have a brilliant team in a few years.

[Tyler Durden]

I never understood the benefit to Scottish clubs of English clubs sending their U23 players to Scotland to get experience. The young player may get experience but what does the Scottish club get out of the deal.

What did Hibs get from bringing in Bushiri, Scott, Henderson, Wood, Jasper & Clarke?

What did Hearts get this season from Cochrane and Simms? What did Dundee Utd get from Levitt?

We just picked the wrong ones, albeit none of our signings were helped by the injury situation and the novice coach who didn’t know what he was doing.

[chippy]

He’s a first team player!


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First team. Why not get Dylan McGeoch back to play alongside him as our no 8 ?

[Aldo]

First team. Why not get Dylan McGeoch back to play alongside him as our no 8 ?

Dylan’s had his time!


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[Jim Herriot]

Nohan certainly seems to be a good addition. Welcome to the club!
Although his PL stats aren't very flattering... :wink:
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[Willis1875]

Hearing the same sort of stuff as we heard when we signed Melkerson. He is not a first team immediately type signing he is a long term project imo. Melkerson was only getting starts because all our main strikers were injured.

I think it’s the same with Kenneh if he kicks on he might get in the first team but Hibs look like they are playing the long game with some of the signings in the last two windows and if the strategy works we could have a brilliant team in a few years.

He’s not coming from Leeds where he was in the first team and on the bench 13 times this season to come and play in Hibs B team 🤣

[Smartie]

I never understood the benefit to Scottish clubs of English clubs sending their U23 players to Scotland to get experience. The young player may get experience but what does the Scottish club get out of the deal.

What did Hibs get from bringing in Bushiri, Scott, Henderson, Wood, Jasper & Clarke?

I'd say Hearts benefitted quite nicely from some of their EPL loan signings last season.

Basically, if you get it right and bring in a good player you get a good player for the duration of the loan that you otherwise wouldn't be able to afford.

I suppose if they're pish or get injured, you're only lumbered with them for a year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'd say Hearts benefitted quite nicely from some of their EPL loan signings last season.

Basically, if you get it right and bring in a good player you get a good player for the duration of the loan that you otherwise wouldn't be able to afford.

I suppose if they're pish or get injured, you're only lumbered with them for a year.

Yup. If you can get the good ones on loan then it’s a good market for Hibs.

Unfortunately I don’t think there’s all that many particularly good ones to be had in the loan market. The very good ones go to the Championship and we get left with the guys who will more often than not end up playing League Two or Conference.

I would point out btw that this post has nothing to do with our new signing btw!

[Johnny_Leith]

Getting some transfer activity done early doors, something that we didn't do enough of last year.

Excited by both Marshall and Kenneh. Both look like they'll add to the squad in their own way. Marshall is proven quality and brings a tonne of experience to the squad. Kenneh well thought of and seems a very promising addition in an area we needed reinforcement.

[SHODAN]

Wait, have we just signed two players pre-season? In one day?

I'm away for a lie down.

[Spike Mandela]

He’s not coming from Leeds where he was in the first team and on the bench 13 times this season to come and play in Hibs B team 🤣

People said the same when we signed Melkerson, he wasn’t ready. The lad’s only 19 he’s one for the future.

[Lago]

:greengrin
Wait, have we just signed two players pre-season? In one day?

I'm away for a lie down.

[Ozyhibby]

First team. Why not get Dylan McGeoch back to play alongside him as our no 8 ?

Would be good company for Magennis.[emoji23]


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[Turkish Green]

What did Hearts get this season from Cochrane and Simms? What did Dundee Utd get from Levitt?

We just picked the wrong ones, albeit none of our signings were helped by the injury situation and the novice coach who didn’t know what he was doing.

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.

[bingo70]

People said the same when we signed Melkerson, he wasn’t ready. The lad’s only 19 he’s one for the future.

Not all 19 year olds are the same.

[Tyler Durden]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.

I give up

[Willis1875]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.

Both have helped them secure 3rd and with it a cash windfall in Europe

[04Sauzee]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cpchrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do they get out of that.

3rd place, a fair bit of cash for finishing 3rd place, European football. Allowing them to get better players than they may have been able to attract.

[Ozyhibby]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.

They finished 3rd and got to a cup final, so I guess it was a success but I generally agree that it’s better we sign rather than loan players.


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[McGruber]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.

3rd place prize money, cup final (& money involved), a good season and European group games... plus more money.

Was this a trick question !

Besides, have a feeling they will get Simms again.

[Smartie]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.

Group stages of Europe next year, gate receipts from reaching a cup final, some bragging rights over us after a good goal in another win at Hampden, prize money for finishing third and a decent chunk of goodwill to encourage their fans to keep piling their money into the club by having given them good football over the past season.


It would hard to argue that our long term deals for Newell, JDH or Josh Campbell provided anything like the same return on investment.

I accept that you need to be careful with loan deal but done well they can offer you a load.

Would we have rather Leigh Griffiths had never played for us?

[JXM73]

Wait, have we just signed two players pre-season? In one day?

I'm away for a lie down.

Dont worry they've both got until 1st july to get injured....

[cabbageandribs1875]

Simms goes back to Everton. Cochrane goes back to BHA. What benefit do Hearts get out of that.



oh i can think of *£3m- *£4m reasons coming their way



at least

[Inconsequential]

God, give it a rest! Yiu are so negative! Why don't you sort your spelling out!:na na:

[Aldo]

See Alfie Mawson’s been released by Fulham!
Wouldn’t mind us signing him!

Ps…. He’s out with our reach I think!


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[Inconsequential]

God, give it a rest! Yiu are so negative! Pay more attention to your own username! In the case of Hibs signing any player, young, old, international, highly rated or whatever it's they way they play for Hibs that is most important. Past glories count for nothing. Time will indeed tell. :agree:

[Since452]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd6MTNxKmVo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Can’t believe some don’t rate him.

Very good first season in mens football, hope we take up the option to buy (within reason based on the fee)

I'd hate to see the clips of his bad bits.

[bingo70]

See Alfie Mawson’s been released by Fulham!
Wouldn’t mind us signing him!

Ps…. He’s out with our reach I think!


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Never heard of him before now but see he played under LJ at Barnsley.

[Brown Hibs]

Surely the we should be in for Zander Clark? Did I just hear he's out of contract?

[Aldo]

Never heard of him before now but see he played under LJ at Barnsley.

Really. Played for Swansea in EPL and made a £15 million move to Fulham in 2018


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[Aldo]

Surely the we should be in for Zander Clark? Did I just hear he's out of contract?

We’ve just signed David Marshall!


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[S4uzee]

Surely the we should be in for Zander Clark? Did I just hear he's out of contract?

He’s mince

[Brown Hibs]

We’ve just signed David Marshall!


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We could do with more than one quality keeper. Clark would be a great signing. Only 29 as well who knows how many season Marshall has left.

[04Sauzee]

Surely the we should be in for Zander Clark? Did I just hear he's out of contract?

Competition for Marshall?👀👀👀👀

[Mr. Wonderful]

I'd hate to see the clips of his bad bits.

Someone should make a compilation of his touches against Dundee.. Slipping around, tripping over the ball.. Worst sub appearance I've seen in a long time, rotten attitude.

[Aldo]

We could do with more than one quality keeper. Clark would be a great signing. Only 29 as well who knows how many season Marshall has left.

Macey, Dabrowski, Mitchell - are you John Hughes in disguise??

Goalkeeper school?


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[Brown Hibs]

Macey, Dabrowski, Mitchell - are you John Hughes in disguise??

Goalkeeper school?


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Surely you aren't comparing Clark and Marshall (both in the Scotland squad today) with Graeme Smith and Mark Brown?

[Aldo]

Surely you aren't comparing Clark and Marshall (both in the Scotland squad today) with Graeme Smith and Mark Brown?

No I’m just saying we have enough for a GK school!


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[Brown Hibs]

No I’m just saying we have enough for a GK school!


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I'd rather we brought Clark in and moved a couple on. We need better.

[Aldo]

I'd rather we brought Clark in and moved a couple on. We need better.

It was mentioned before but this is the least of our worries for me! 3rd least goals in league??

Marshall brings the quality and Macey is an adequate stand in


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[King Cosell]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

[Vault Boy]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

I can't see us being interested unless we've had word that Arsenal are activating Clarke's break clause.

[B.H.F.C]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

Before you even get on to talking about whether he’s any good or not, I think RB/RWB is probably the position least in need of attention in the whole team with Clarke and Cadden available to play there. Even Paul McGinn at a push if he re-signs.

[04Sauzee]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

Hoping he's just taking in a game of Scottish football. I honestly think Rooney is guff. The only player I'd consider would be Gordon but he's got a fairly legnthy contact.

[andrew70]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

God I hope not. Need to be blind to think he’s any good. Humpty.

[18Craig75]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

Might’ve been looking at St Johnstones attacking midfielder, no29. He got another assist.

[chippy]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

McCart possibly?

[CapitalGreen]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

Interesting considering Jamie McCart was out. I wonder if he was looking at Reece McAlear.

[CapitalGreen]

McCart possibly?

Was missing with concussion, not sure if he’d have been aware of that heading up.

[Tyler Durden]

Surely you aren't comparing Clark and Marshall (both in the Scotland squad today) with Graeme Smith and Mark Brown?

Clark is very similar to Brown and Smith. All peak at mid table to bottom 6 Scottish teams.

Marshall is levels above.

[King Cosell]

I can't see us being interested unless we've had word that Arsenal are activating Clarke's break clause.

Would be a bit mean if Arsenal do that, we've only had 7 games out of him.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Surely the we should be in for Zander Clark? Did I just hear he's out of contract?

A beardie from St, Johnstone? You do remember the last one we signed?:rolleyes:

[Potty78]

Lee Johnson was at St Johnstone game tonight, Shaun Rooney played a blinder, and I think he's out of contract.

Maybe Callum Hendry?

[Greencore]

Return of hallberg.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Is Callum Hendry out of contract? I know he was pretty bad last season but he’s had an excellent second half of this campaign and on a free I’d look into it

[Souter96Mac]

Is Callum Hendry out of contract? I know he was pretty bad last season but he’s had an excellent second half of this campaign and on a free I’d look into it

Yes his contract is up in summer

[Brown Hibs]

Clark aside there isn't one player on either team in that game I would take at Hibs. Standard was dreadful.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Clark aside there isn't one player on either team in that game I would take at Hibs. Standard was dreadful.

Samuels...

[S4uzee]

Clark aside there isn't one player on either team in that game I would take at Hibs. Standard was dreadful.

Agreed, however good to hear that Johnson is taking in games

[Unseen work]

Robbie Deas?

Sure we were linked (maybe just on here) with him before along with a couple of SPFL teams.

Reece Maclear is another after doing going from Motherwell to Norwich where he’s just been released from. Must admit I know nothing about him other than his 2 goals from the other night.

[LancsHibs]

Samuels...

Yes he looked lively as did the lad on loan from Dundee United, Chalmers? The best player for S.J was Melker Hallberg!

[bingo70]

He’d have just been there to take in a game as there’s very little else happening right now and a good opportunity to get a feel for Scottish football again.

[04Sauzee]

He’d have just been there to take in a game as there’s very little else happening right now and a good opportunity to get a feel for Scottish football again.

That would be my guess.

[JimBHibees]

Was missing with concussion, not sure if he’d have been aware of that heading up.

That was probably why he was there but wouldn't have known if McCart was unable to play. Personally think McCart would be a decent signing

[Iain G]

Yes he looked lively as did the lad on loan from Dundee United, Chalmers? The best player for S.J was Melker Hallberg!

Could Hallberg do a job for us though? 😁

[hibeejeebies]

I must be one of the few folk on here that rates Shaun Rooney 🤷🏻

[JimBHibees]

I must be one of the few folk on here that rates Shaun Rooney ����

So do I great attacking threat quick big and strong and tries like a bear in a game.

[Souter96Mac]

Don't think anyone from last night is good enough tbh, but I thought that Brown for St J had a decent game. Made some really important challenges to stop Caley in the first half

[Jones28]

So do I great attacking threat quick big and strong and tries like a bear in a game.

He made that run for his goal in the 90th minute of the game, seriously impressive pace after that amount of time.

I rate Rooney in an attacking sense. Not so sure defensively.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don’t mind Rooney but as someone else said, I think his position is one we’re very well stocked in.

[Hibernian Verse]

He made that run for his goal in the 90th minute of the game, seriously impressive pace after that amount of time.

I rate Rooney in an attacking sense. Not so sure defensively.

I think that may suit LJ.

[CapitalGreen]

I think that may suit LJ.

Where would he play as LJ doesn’t seem to play wing backs and he’s not good enough defensively to play RB?

[Hibernian Verse]

Where would he play as LJ doesn’t seem to play wing backs and he’s not good enough defensively to play RB?

We're deeming him not good enough to play defensively, LJ might think he is for the way he wants to play.

[easty]

Samuels...

Both legs of the semi v Abroath he was stinking.

[easty]

He made that run for his goal in the 90th minute of the game, seriously impressive pace after that amount of time.

I rate Rooney in an attacking sense. Not so sure defensively.

I doubt we’re interested, but if we’re looking at Shaun Rooney for his attacking abilities then that’s one of the most depressing things I’ve ever heard about Hibs.

[Springbank]

I doubt we’re interested, but if we’re looking at Shaun Rooney for his attacking abilities then that’s one of the most depressing things I’ve ever heard about Hibs.

Well, he had more heart, and more goals in him, than the whole Jack Ross XI plus subs did, at Hampden, this time last year.

[Dmas]

We're deeming him not good enough to play defensively, LJ might think he is for the way he wants to play.

I don’t think he’s better than either Cadden or Clarke and I’d even go as far as saying McGinn would offer us more than Rooney should LJ prefer the back 4 option than the wing backs, I think he looks good in quite a poor side to take him out that he’d be nowhere near as impressive…..a bit like everyone else we’ve ever taken from St.J

[Hibernian Verse]

I don’t think he’s better than either Cadden or Clarke and I’d even go as far as saying McGinn would offer us more than Rooney should LJ prefer the back 4 option than the wing backs, I think he looks good in quite a poor side to take him out that he’d be nowhere near as impressive…..a bit like everyone else we’ve ever taken from St.J

Actually forgot Clarke would still be with us next season. Rooney not required.

[Billy Whizz]

Where would he play as LJ doesn’t seem to play wing backs and he’s not good enough defensively to play RB?

Where is Lee going to fit Cadden and Clarke into his team?
Both I’d suggest best positions are as wingbacks

[CapitalGreen]

Where is Lee going to fit Cadden and Clarke into his team?
Both I’d suggest best positions are as wingbacks

Probably one starts and one sits on the bench. That is assuming everyone is fit and available which in reality is never the case.

[easty]

Where is Lee going to fit Cadden and Clarke into his team?
Both I’d suggest best positions are as wingbacks

If we play a 4-4-2, I think the 2 of them would work well interchanging down the right.

[easty]

Well, he had more heart, and more goals in him, than the whole Jack Ross XI plus subs did, at Hampden, this time last year.

Charlie Adam had more heart and as many goals as any the Hibs XI plus subs a couple of weeks ago...should we sign him tae?

[MWHIBBIES]

Cadden would certainly work on the right of a 442 with Clarke behind him. I think that would be a very strong, physical right side.

[sauzeelegod]

Are we thinking we’re going 442?

I can’t find much info on LJ’s preferred formation.

Some say 433, some say 4231 or 442.

I found an article that said a back 5 for a while too.

[MWHIBBIES]

Are we thinking we’re going 442?

I can’t find much info on LJ’s preferred formation.

Some say 433, some say 4231 or 442.

I found an article that said a back 5 for a while too.

Tbh, no idea. Hopefully he builds a system to suit our better players instead of doing a Maloney.

[04Sauzee]

Are we thinking we’re going 442?

I can’t find much info on LJ’s preferred formation.

Some say 433, some say 4231 or 442.

I found an article that said a back 5 for a while too.
Im sure he prefer a 4-3-3 , he did at Sunderland and did his recruitment around that formation I'm sure.

From the Northern Echo 21/04/21( shared this before 😁)

WHATEVER league Sunderland are playing in next season, Lee Johnson has revealed he will be recruiting players this summer to fit into the 4-3-3 formation he fielded at Hull City last night.

Johnson has chopped and changed systems on a number of occasions since taking over in December, but most of the tinkering has been a response to the injury issues that have blighted the Black Cats in the second half of the season.

Ideally, Johnson wants his side to line up as they did at the KCOM Stadium, with a flat back four, a relatively narrow central midfield, and two wide attackers flanking a central striker

[sauzeelegod]

Tbh, no idea. Hopefully he builds a system to suit our better players instead of doing a Maloney.

Agreed mate

[RyeSloan]

Robbie Deas?

Sure we were linked (maybe just on here) with him before along with a couple of SPFL teams.

Reece Maclear is another after doing going from Motherwell to Norwich where he’s just been released from. Must admit I know nothing about him other than his 2 goals from the other night.

Deas was poor.

Stood and watched May run in and score the first and seems to have zero composure on the ball.

I struggle to see how any of the players on the pitch last night would add anything to Hibs.

[easty]

Tbh, no idea. Hopefully he builds a system to suit our better players instead of doing a Maloney.

:agree:

A good manager should be able to get the best out of what he has, not be set on a formation and throw the players into it.

[Hibs90]

Jasper signing permanently

[Jones28]

Jasper signing permanently

Good news imo

[bingo70]

Good news imo

I think so too.

Horrible environment and team for a young player to come into. If he had come through the ranks at Hibs we wouldn’t dream of releasing him at this stage.

With a full pre-season and in a team playing on the front foot, I think he could do well next season

[04Sauzee]

Jasper signing permanently

I was a fan of his, definitely a bums out of seats type of player. Still only 20 and with a good pre-season hopefully get to see the best from him.

[Vault Boy]

I think so too.

Horrible environment and team for a young player to come into. If he had come through the ranks at Hibs we wouldn’t dream of releasing him at this stage.

With a full pre-season and in a team playing on the front foot, I think he could do well next season

I'd agree with that. He's shown some poor form, but who hasn't in this struggling team? He's got to be the most skillful player at the club just now, so it's well worth a gamble.

Hopefully a more balanced, better performing team will see the best of him.

[Smartie]

Good news imo

Great news imo.

He showed in flashes (and in a poor team) what we have lacked badly in recent seasons.

There were a few lovely bits of skill out wide to beat a man then get a good ball in. Didn't happen often enough, but it still happened so he is capable.

Personally I think that Jasper and Cadden have a fair few assists in them if we get the striker(s) / attacking central midfielder bit right.

[Nicho87]

Jasper signing permanently

Hopefully he can learn how to not shirk a 50/50 this pre season

Good news though

You in the know

[SHODAN]

Jasper signing permanently

Happy with that.

[147lothian]

:top marks
:agree:

A good manager should be able to get the best out of what he has, not be set on a formation and throw the players into it.

[Hibernian Verse]

I never thought I suffered from mood swings but the last 5 days have been some turnaround :greengrin

Can't wait for the League Cup draw now. Words I never thought I'd say.

[MrSmith]

I'm liking LJ's swagger and the positivity sweeping through us all now. Keep it up LJ :flag:

[easty]

Jasper signing permanently

He needs to be better next season than he was last.

A player who is clearly capable of exciting things, can pick a pass and can beat a man. It's a fact though that more often than not he was disappointing for us.

Fingers crossed Johnson and whatever system he gets us playing, works for Jasper and he can kick on.

[sauzeelegod]

Im sure he prefer a 4-3-3 , he did at Sunderland and did his recruitment around that formation I'm sure.

From the Northern Echo 21/04/21( shared this before 😁)

WHATEVER league Sunderland are playing in next season, Lee Johnson has revealed he will be recruiting players this summer to fit into the 4-3-3 formation he fielded at Hull City last night.

Johnson has chopped and changed systems on a number of occasions since taking over in December, but most of the tinkering has been a response to the injury issues that have blighted the Black Cats in the second half of the season.

Ideally, Johnson wants his side to line up as they did at the KCOM Stadium, with a flat back four, a relatively narrow central midfield, and two wide attackers flanking a central striker

Thanks for that mate.

I’d be happy with 433

[Unseen work]

Great news about Jasper if true.

Someone with such natural ability to beat a man can’t be overlooked, opposition players will hate when he has it.

Yes his final ball/decision making needs to be better but that will come, he’s only 20 and this is his first season is mens football.

Look what Abdellah Zubir turned into with time.

[Ozyhibby]

Not unhappy about Jasper but I do find it a bit strange how many players are getting new contracts in a team that failed so badly?
Still can’t get over Joe Newall’s new deal.[emoji35]


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[One Day Soon]

Marshall, the Leeds lad and Jasper are a good start. We absolutely need an older head or two though, players with experience, confidence and maturity in the outfield.

[S4uzee]

If Jasper is signing permanently then why did he never get a game towards the end of the season in a poor, struggling side

[04Sauzee]

If Jasper is signing permanently then why did he never get a game towards the end of the season in a poor, struggling side

It's going to be a team/squad game
If we want to play with a front 3 it makes sense , if we go with a 2 he won't get as much game time. He's 20 I'm not sure he's going to play every game.

[Mr. Wonderful]

If Jasper is signing permanently then why did he never get a game towards the end of the season in a poor, struggling side

Because the deal was already done. Has been for months

[Smartie]

Because the deal was already done. Has been for months

I'm finding the way that stuff is being announced a wee bit weird - stuff that's presumably been agreed for months.

We knew that Marshall needed to be rubber stamped by the new manager.

Kenneh was from out of the blue.

Jasper was seemingly agreed a while back.

What about a new contract for McGinn? What's happening with Scott Allan and Drey Wright (I take it we're assuming they're going to be freed?) Will Rocky be staying, what about Harry Clarke? Like Jasper I thought they were loans with some sort of option to either continue the loan or make the move permanent?

[Hibernian Verse]

I'm finding the way that stuff is being announced a wee bit weird - stuff that's presumably been agreed for months.

We knew that Marshall needed to be rubber stamped by the new manager.

Kenneh was from out of the blue.

Jasper was seemingly agreed a while back.

What about a new contract for McGinn? What's happening with Scott Allan and Drey Wright (I take it we're assuming they're going to be freed?) Will Rocky be staying, what about Harry Clarke? Like Jasper I thought they were loans with some sort of option to either continue the loan or make the move permanent?

You'll probably get an update between now and the 31st as that's when most Scottish contracts end.

[OldEast]

I messaged him when he first arrived and told him he was about to become our most fouled player 😮 Sadly that's proved to be true. He's a tough cookie though and will continue improving. I'm glad he's staying.

[loanheadhibby]

Hopefully he can learn how to not shirk a 50/50 this pre season

Good news though

You in the know

I'm hoping we have better players in the midfield/defence next season that Jasper will not have to be making 50/50 challenges. Hopefully we can play to the laddies strengths rather than asking him to get wired in.

I think there is a player in him if we can get him in the right positions in an attacking sense. Obviously there will always be an element of getting stuck in but I'm looking for him to show what he can do further up the park.

[GloryGlory]

Not unhappy about Jasper but I do find it a bit strange how many players are getting new contracts in a team that failed so badly?
Still can’t get over Joe Newall’s new deal.[emoji35]


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I'm still suffering from the announcement months ago of Josh Campbell's contract being extended.

[jacomo]

Good news imo


:agree:

Jasper is a talent and natural replacement for Boyle.

Pleased to see him develop in our team next season.

[dunfyhibby]

:agree:

Jasper is a talent and natural replacement for Boyle.

Pleased to see him develop in our team next season.

If he signs then I hope he comes good, but he's never a natural replacement for Boyle. No where near the blistering pace and goal threat that Boyle had!

[jacomo]

Not unhappy about Jasper but I do find it a bit strange how many players are getting new contracts in a team that failed so badly?
Still can’t get over Joe Newall’s new deal.[emoji35]


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He was a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy few months.

He wants the ball and will run at people. He’s also young and still developing. A competent manager will utilise his strengths and improve him as a player.

Something that drove me mad about Maloney is that he insisted on all our attacking players being narrow, so they were all forced into congested areas of the pitch. The opposition knew this and could squeeze the space.

An obvious remedy for Jasper would be to allow him to drift to the touchline more often, so he can evade markers more easily.

[McD]

Im sure he prefer a 4-3-3 , he did at Sunderland and did his recruitment around that formation I'm sure.

From the Northern Echo 21/04/21( shared this before 😁)

WHATEVER league Sunderland are playing in next season, Lee Johnson has revealed he will be recruiting players this summer to fit into the 4-3-3 formation he fielded at Hull City last night.

Johnson has chopped and changed systems on a number of occasions since taking over in December, but most of the tinkering has been a response to the injury issues that have blighted the Black Cats in the second half of the season.

Ideally, Johnson wants his side to line up as they did at the KCOM Stadium, with a flat back four, a relatively narrow central midfield, and two wide attackers flanking a central striker


good to hear we have a manager who can adjust to injuries to get the best out of who’s fit, rather than rigidly sticking to a system regardless. Maloney’s principles were coming from the right place, but he needed to be more pragmatic at times

[Tyler Durden]

Jasper signing permanently

Source?

[GloryGlory]

If he signs then I hope he comes good, but he's never a natural replacement for Boyle. No where near the blistering pace and goal threat that Boyle had!

The Boyle who first came from Dundee wouldn't be a natural replacement for the Boyle who left in January, either.

[dunfyhibby]

The Boyle who first came from Dundee wouldn't be a natural replacement for the Boyle who left in January, either.

Very true!

[KeithTheHibby]

If he signs then I hope he comes good, but he's never a natural replacement for Boyle. No where near the blistering pace and goal threat that Boyle had!

Boyle at 20 was playing for Montrose. Even when he was here his finishing and final ball was poor at times. By the time he left he was at the top of his game but took him years to get there. Jasper has got plenty time on his hands.

[BoomtownHibees]

He needs to be better next season than he was last.

As do the rest of them

[J-C]

I'm finding the way that stuff is being announced a wee bit weird - stuff that's presumably been agreed for months.

We knew that Marshall needed to be rubber stamped by the new manager.

Kenneh was from out of the blue.

Jasper was seemingly agreed a while back.

What about a new contract for McGinn? What's happening with Scott Allan and Drey Wright (I take it we're assuming they're going to be freed?) Will Rocky be staying, what about Harry Clarke? Like Jasper I thought they were loans with some sort of option to either continue the loan or make the move permanent?

Contracts probably run till the end of the month, any departures will be announced after that presumably.

[easty]

As do the rest of them

Difference being that they're here and contracted, we weren't obligated to sign Jasper. We could have cut our losses on a player who was poor 90% of the time.

[04Sauzee]

Jamie Hamilton about to be out of contract at Hamilton in the coming weeks. I'm sure he was highly thought off. Only just turned 20, does anybody know how he's been playing? Could he step up or has he stagnated a little.

[Hibernian Verse]

Jamie Hamilton about to be out of contract at Hamilton in the coming weeks. I'm sure he was highly thought off. Only just turned 20, does anybody know how he's been playing? Could he step up or has he stagnated a little.

Messi would stagnate in that Accies team to be fair.

[04Sauzee]

EXCLUSIVE! Ricki Lamie pens new Motherwell deal as defender pulls the plug on Dundee pre-contract | @ScottBurns75

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[Stevie Reid]

I think so too.

Horrible environment and team for a young player to come into. If he had come through the ranks at Hibs we wouldn’t dream of releasing him at this stage.

With a full pre-season and in a team playing on the front foot, I think he could do well next season

Very good point re: if he was our academy player.

Found him hugely exciting when he first arrived, but seemed to have the maverick element of his game neutered as the weeks went on and our season got worse.

Not as enthusiastic about him signing now as I would have been when he first started playing for us, but not hard to imagine him flourishing under a manager who allows him to play without fear.

Happy with all of our business so far. Mix of promising youth and great experience being signed in key areas of the team.

[MrRobot]

I'm finding the way that stuff is being announced a wee bit weird - stuff that's presumably been agreed for months.

We knew that Marshall needed to be rubber stamped by the new manager.

Kenneh was from out of the blue.

Jasper was seemingly agreed a while back.

What about a new contract for McGinn? What's happening with Scott Allan and Drey Wright (I take it we're assuming they're going to be freed?) Will Rocky be staying, what about Harry Clarke? Like Jasper I thought they were loans with some sort of option to either continue the loan or make the move permanent?

Id imagine the manager is being given time to decide if he wants us to take up the options on the loan players and hand out new contescts. Nothing strange about it at all IMO

[EGL2000]

:agree:

Jasper is a talent and natural replacement for Boyle.

Pleased to see him develop in our team next season.


Highly doubt Jasper is seen as a Boyle replacement, completely different types of players. Even when Boyle was at Montrose when still very Raw he was much more prolific than jasper has been at any club.

[davhibby]

If Jasper is signing permanently then why did he never get a game towards the end of the season in a poor, struggling side

The team selections post split were baffling. They don’t really have any bearing on what we do going forward though as LJ wasn’t at the club

[Dmas]

He needs to be better next season than he was last.

A player who is clearly capable of exciting things, can pick a pass and can beat a man. It's a fact though that more often than not he was disappointing for us.

Fingers crossed Johnson and whatever system he gets us playing, works for Jasper and he can kick on.


This where I am with him, I'm not in the completely wrote him off camp but I'm not quite sure he's good enough, would it be more beneficial for guys like Stephen Bradley to get that game time, would it be so difficult to find someone better than he is now the summer windows open.

he'll get my backing definitely but I would be very surprised if we.re not looking for someone else to play his position as well.

[LeithMike]

If we play a 4-4-2, I think the 2 of them would work well interchanging down the right.
Cadden would certainly work on the right of a 442 with Clarke behind him. I think that would be a very strong, physical right side.Not for me. Two full-backs down the one side rarely, if ever, works. A wide midfielder has to be able to play with his back to goal and come inside. That's a completely different skillset to that of a full-back. Cadden is decent at overlapping and running on to the ball but he doesn't have great poise which suggests to me he'd really struggle in a midfield role.

I remember the same thinking around De La Cruz and Allen Orman but they just got in each other's way and DLC really struggled in midfield and didn't know where to position himself. He was excellent at overlapping and crossing when allowed to play as a full-back though.





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[Dmas]

Highly doubt Jasper is seen as a Boyle replacement, completely different types of players. Even when Boyle was at Montrose when still very Raw he was much more prolific than jasper has been at any club.

Boyle was a striker at Montrose

[Greenworld]

Not sure where the jasper stuff is coming from not seen anything. However I think it would be a good squad signing



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[Hibernian Verse]

Highly doubt Jasper is seen as a Boyle replacement, completely different types of players. Even when Boyle was at Montrose when still very Raw he was much more prolific than jasper has been at any club.

He won't be the replacement for Boyle, but you can hardly compare their goalscoring records when one plays as a wide forward in the Premiership and Boyle was an out and out striker at Montrose.

If we're comparing, I'm prolific at the Pitz.

[blackpoolhibs]

He was a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy few months.

He wants the ball and will run at people. He’s also young and still developing. A competent manager will utilise his strengths and improve him as a player.

Something that drove me mad about Maloney is that he insisted on all our attacking players being narrow, so they were all forced into congested areas of the pitch. The opposition knew this and could squeeze the space.

An obvious remedy for Jasper would be to allow him to drift to the touchline more often, so he can evade markers more easily.

Proof in the pudding being the cup game away at Motherwell, he turned their full back inside out in that 1st half. :agree:

He is a talent, probably not quite ready yet, but maybe alongside much better players he will be.

[badabing67]

Still don't see jasper permanent anywhere. Where is this coming from

[Hibs90]

Still don't see jasper permanent anywhere. Where is this coming from

Nothing official yet

[jacomo]

Highly doubt Jasper is seen as a Boyle replacement, completely different types of players. Even when Boyle was at Montrose when still very Raw he was much more prolific than jasper has been at any club.


They aren’t exactly the same of course, but they also are not completely different types of players.

Ridiculous thing to say.

[brog]

Difference being that they're here and contracted, we weren't obligated to sign Jasper. We could have cut our losses on a player who was poor 90% of the time.

Jeez, Jasper's getting worse already!! A couple of hours ago he was poor more often than not according to you. Now you say he was poor 90% of the time. Total nonsense IMO, he had 1 shocker, when he came on against Dundee but he put in several excellent performances and was one of our few players capable of making space and beating a man. He's a young lad who'll benefit from more games and better coaching. Hopefully DD's info is correct.v

[B.H.F.C]

Jeez, Jasper's getting worse already!! A couple of hours ago he was poor more often than not according to you. Now you say he was poor 90% of the time. Total nonsense IMO, he had 1 shocker, when he came on against Dundee but he put in several excellent performances and was one of our few players capable of making space and beating a man. He's a young lad who'll benefit from more games and better coaching. Hopefully DD's info is correct.v

Who were the several excellent performances against? I can think of the first half at Motherwell but there isn’t really anything notable beyond that.

There is definitely some potential there but we’re saying that about quite a number of players these days.

[Smartie]

Who were the several excellent performances against? I can think of the first half at Motherwell but there isn’t really anything notable beyond that.

There is definitely some potential there but we’re saying that about quite a number of players these days.

With Jasper it was more about fairly regular fleeting glimpses rather than solid performances.

He needs to join up a few more of the fleeting glimpses to get the solid performances and if he does then he'll convince a number of the doubters who he hasn't won over so far.

[J-C]

Not for me. Two full-backs down the one side rarely, if ever, works. A wide midfielder has to be able to play with his back to goal and come inside. That's a completely different skillset to that of a full-back. Cadden is decent at overlapping and running on to the ball but he doesn't have great poise which suggests to me he'd really struggle in a midfield role.

I remember the same thinking around De La Cruz and Allen Orman but they just got in each other's way and DLC really struggled in midfield and didn't know where to position himself. He was excellent at overlapping and crossing when allowed to play as a full-back though.





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Cadden is a right sided midfielder, played there for Motherwell and Scotland, he is adept at wingback but isn't the best at defending. I'd play him in the middle, bags of energy will work his socks off, or on the right in front of Clarke.

[easty]

Jeez, Jasper's getting worse already!! A couple of hours ago he was poor more often than not according to you. Now you say he was poor 90% of the time. Total nonsense IMO, he had 1 shocker, when he came on against Dundee but he put in several excellent performances and was one of our few players capable of making space and beating a man. He's a young lad who'll benefit from more games and better coaching. Hopefully DD's info is correct.v

He did not put in several excellent performances. He's an attacking midfielder who scored zero and assisted twice (both in the same game) in a total of 16 games for us. I'll double down on 90% of the time he was poor.

[Mr. Wonderful]

He did not put in several excellent performances. He's an attacking midfielder who scored zero and assisted twice (both in the same game) in a total of 16 games for us. I'll double down on 90% of the time he was poor.

This. All step overs and nae end product. Have said it before but his cameo at Dundee the other week is the worst sub appearance I've ever seen, climaxing when he put it on a plate for Adam to smack in.

[SlickShoes]

I messaged him when he first arrived and told him he was about to become our most fouled player 😮 Sadly that's proved to be true. He's a tough cookie though and will continue improving. I'm glad he's staying.

He came on against Livi away near the end of the season initially it looked like he could create something for us, beat 3 or 4 men then go absolutely flattened by their centre half I think, he then spent the final ten minutes limping about unable to create anything.

I can see why people arent excited, but he has shown he is very capable and we have to now trust the manager to get the best out of him if he signs

[J-C]

He did not put in several excellent performances. He's an attacking midfielder who scored zero and assisted twice (both in the same game) in a total of 16 games for us. I'll double down on 90% of the time he was poor.

TBF the majority of the team were pants from January onwards, Maloney's tactics nullified anything half decent in the team, playing with very little confidence. Young players like Jasper who've only played a handful of senior games need guidance and not being chucked into the deep end with fingers crossed. LJ has a reputation for bringing through youngsters and making them better, let's hope he can do that with Jasper, Henderson, Kenneh etc.

[SlickShoes]

This. All step overs and nae end product. Have said it before but his cameo at Dundee the other week is the worst sub appearance I've ever seen, climaxing when he put it on a plate for Adam to smack in.

no end product apart from the times there was an end product.

[hibbyfraelibby]

The team selections post split were baffling. They don’t really have any bearing on what we do going forward though as LJ wasn’t at the club

Team selects post split were about getting enough points in the bag to avoid 11th spot in the league.

SDG achieved that, and then last game we took St Johnstone apart with old timers, young debutants and a suddenly envigourated James Scott.

[04Sauzee]

This. All step overs and nae end product. Have said it before but his cameo at Dundee the other week is the worst sub appearance I've ever seen, climaxing when he put it on a plate for Adam to smack in.

Worst sub appearance??

He's 20 , it was mentioned he's played 16 times for Hibs, he's had under 800 minutes of football in our league. Think he's a very good young player who will get better.

[The Spaceman]

Definitely seen enough from Jasper to have a punt on a permanent deal. He’s displayed some brilliant flashes of technique and ability (not consistently enough of course, but he’s still really young) - if he keeps improving he will eventually stroll it.

[Unseen work]

I want someone better than Cadden to play on the right of a front 3. I’m a big fan of his but think he’s better suited to right back however if Clarke isn’t recalled he starts rb for me.

I also think we’ll see a big difference in all of our players when they’re allowed to play at a higher tempo and forward faster. If joe Newell etc have willing runnings going beyond, making runs etc they’ll find them. The issue imo was that everyone was coming to feet and it ended up in it coming back too often.

Johnson encouraging players to get forward quick, signing quicker and more direct players along with the full backs overlapping will make a big difference imo.

Really looking forward to this season.

[skyehibee]

That hibs central on Twitter saying Sheffield Utd enquired about Doig. That been pulled from here somewhere?

[easty]

TBF the majority of the team were pants from January onwards, Maloney's tactics nullified anything half decent in the team, playing with very little confidence. Young players like Jasper who've only played a handful of senior games need guidance and not being chucked into the deep end with fingers crossed. LJ has a reputation for bringing through youngsters and making them better, let's hope he can do that with Jasper, Henderson, Kenneh etc.

I agree, and I'm nowhere near writing him off...my original point about this today was -


He needs to be better next season than he was last.

A player who is clearly capable of exciting things, can pick a pass and can beat a man. It's a fact though that more often than not he was disappointing for us.

Fingers crossed Johnson and whatever system he gets us playing, works for Jasper and he can kick on.

I've been really disappointed with him, but I can see he has something about him.

Compare that to Josh Campbell, who I still cannae believe played as much football as he did for us last season. I don't think a new manager will help with him at all, he's just clearly out of his depth at this level.

[cabbageandribs1875]

That hibs central on Twitter saying Sheffield Utd enquired about Doig. That been pulled from here somewhere?




saw it mentioned on PM forum earlier

[HH81]

That hibs central on Twitter saying Sheffield Utd enquired about Doig. That been pulled from here somewhere?

Yes I read it on here earlier.

[Edina Street]

Is Paul McGinn joining the Exodus? His contract is up in one weeks time, and it was only around nine months ago he won his first cap for Scotland. Do we want him to stay?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Is Paul McGinn joining the Exodus? His contract is up in one weeks time, and it was only around nine months ago he won his first cap for Scotland. Do we want him to stay?


sure there's a season extension option but i'm not exactly sure how these things work, that is, does the player have the choice in taking it or not, or the club decides

[easty]

Is Paul McGinn joining the Exodus? His contract is up in one weeks time, and it was only around nine months ago he won his first cap for Scotland. Do we want him to stay?

I think he’s a good player to have in the squad, don’t see him playing much in a 4 at the back, if that’s where we’re headed.

[B.H.F.C]

With Jasper it was more about fairly regular fleeting glimpses rather than solid performances.

He needs to join up a few more of the fleeting glimpses to get the solid performances and if he does then he'll convince a number of the doubters who he hasn't won over so far.

I think the thing for me is that even the fleeting glimpses were pretty fleeting after his first few games, where I thought he looked quite bright.

It just concerns me a bit that we might be looking at someone else that might do well. I know you can say that about any signing but Marshall, for example, is pretty much guaranteed to come in and improve us. We’ve seen a lot of potential signed in the last couple of windows and we know where that got us.

[04Sauzee]

saw it mentioned on PM forum earlier

Is that where he gets his info from ?

[MWHIBBIES]

I'm finding the way that stuff is being announced a wee bit weird - stuff that's presumably been agreed for months.

We knew that Marshall needed to be rubber stamped by the new manager.

Kenneh was from out of the blue.

Jasper was seemingly agreed a while back.

What about a new contract for McGinn? What's happening with Scott Allan and Drey Wright (I take it we're assuming they're going to be freed?) Will Rocky be staying, what about Harry Clarke? Like Jasper I thought they were loans with some sort of option to either continue the loan or make the move permanent?

Clarke is here for another 12 months. Nothing to suggest otherwise

[cabbageandribs1875]

Is that where he gets his info from ?


i honestly don't know, i just had a quick check of timing of posts....was up here first which means nothing :greengrin but i've saw posters in the past say things are taken from the PM forum by some on twitter



hibs central has also mentioned a jack tucker at Gillingham, hibs and sheff wed interested ? lord knows

quick google says he's a centre-back

[Tyler Durden]

This Jasper story seems to be coming from the usual cycle of people on here pretending to be ITK and Hibs Twitter accounts. In this case "HibsCentral".

Hopefully it's untrue. Would rather take the £200/300k or whatever the fee is and give that to Regan Charles-Cook or someone of that ilk who has genuine pace and goal threat.

[Smartie]

I think the thing for me is that even the fleeting glimpses were pretty fleeting after his first few games, where I thought he looked quite bright.

It just concerns me a bit that we might be looking at someone else that might do well. I know you can say that about any signing but Marshall, for example, is pretty much guaranteed to come in and improve us. We’ve seen a lot of potential signed in the last couple of windows and we know where that got us.

The problem we have is that our current squad is full of those. It's the new manager's call to decide which ones he will and won't work with. I know many people would like to bin them all but that just isn't practical. Jasper is one of those who looks, in my opinion, the most likely to be able to step it up a notch so I'm quite happy with this decision.

That highlight reel of his bugged me though. He strikes me a bit as someone who would be more bothered about contributing towards an instagram highlight reel rather than goals and assists.

The beating of the fullback and cross in against Aberdeen is the sort of thing that gets me off my seat and that I want to see much, much more of.

[Tyler Durden]

i honestly don't know, i just had a quick check of timing of posts....was up here first which means nothing :greengrin but i've saw posters in the past say things are taken from the PM forum by some on twitter



hibs central has also mentioned a jack tucker at Gillingham ? hibs and sheff wed interested ? lord knows

quick googla says he's a centre-back

That was also posted here first, shared from a media report down south I think.

[GloryGlory]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

[JohnM1875]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

Not too surprised or disappointed with this. We need to be doing better.

[Tyler Durden]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

Another good news day IMO!

[cabbageandribs1875]

That was also posted here first, shared from a media report down south I think.


:aok: it's just a big merry-go-round on where 'sources' come from and who claims the rumour first :)

[badabing67]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

A bit surprised by that tbh.

[cabbageandribs1875]

no matter now but i couldn't make my mind up re jasper, i thought he would maybe be worth that little risk


very best of luck to the guy for the future

[04Sauzee]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

All that debate because someone said earlier he signing permanently, someone else said it had been done weeks ago and now we are being told we aren't taking up the option 😁

Good luck to the boy I'm sure he will be a success somewhere.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Worst sub appearance??

He's 20 , it was mentioned he's played 16 times for Hibs, he's had under 800 minutes of football in our league. Think he's a very good young player who will get better.

Yes. Watch it back, falls over his feet several times and slips several times. Gets bullied all over the place and then sets up Adams goal.

Didn't feature after that and quite rightly too

[cabbageandribs1875]

All that debate because someone said earlier he signing permanently, someone else said it had been done weeks ago and now we are being told we aren't taking up the option 😁

Good luck to the boy I'm sure he will be a success somewhere.



Hibs Transfer reported his imminent signing as well :greengrin

[easty]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

I’m happier with that. There’ll be better options out there.

[easty]

All that debate because someone said earlier he signing permanently, someone else said it had been done weeks ago and now we are being told we aren't taking up the option 😁

Good luck to the boy I'm sure he will be a success somewhere.

He’ll be a success at Bradford or someone at that level.

[cabbageandribs1875]

:greengrin

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281331675_5035050866581251_768359596891778238_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=uclJUxIUC_MAX8cTR6P&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_V0oNmQoNol1VEETMCU0ER-PL4kOfLs4R_g_jsOJjI5g&oe=6292538B

[B.H.F.C]

A bit surprised by that tbh.

I’m not as I’m sure the fee that was agreed was talked about as being pretty significant. If that was true, we’d seen nowhere near enough to be paying any kind of significant fee IMO.

[Stevie Reid]

Happy enough with him going too. Was fine if LJ wanted him but very happy to see us looking for better.

[keep the faith]

:greengrin

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281331675_5035050866581251_768359596891778238_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=uclJUxIUC_MAX8cTR6P&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_V0oNmQoNol1VEETMCU0ER-PL4kOfLs4R_g_jsOJjI5g&oe=6292538B

It's been taken down! 😂

[THESHIP]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-decision-on-sylvester-jasper-transfer-as-fulham-wingers-loan-comes-to-an-end-3707161

Hibs not taking up Jasper option.

Very disappointed with this. One of the only players we’ve got that could beat a man.

[Unseen work]

Very disappointed by the news we’re not signing him permanently however it all appears on the agreed fee.

Wouldn’t be surprised for another Scottish club to sign him though

[Northernhibee]

I’m happier with that. There’ll be better options out there.

Indeed, don't rate him at all. Plenty of bits of fancy footwork and that but didn't produce much and frequently gave up possession for us.

[JimBHibees]

Who were the several excellent performances against? I can think of the first half at Motherwell but there isn’t really anything notable beyond that.

There is definitely some potential there but we’re saying that about quite a number of players these days.

He was good against Celtic in home game however more average games though the performances of players he was playing with needs to be taken into account. Assume we can get better especially if LJ has decent contacts in EPL.