Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[GordonHFC]

He’s miles off that.

And do people think Hanlon is a leader?

[MWHIBBIES]

And do people think Hanlon is a leader?

Absolutely, yes. Sets a wonderful example and has for years.

[Mrimbetween]

Porteous is a born leader and someone who just exemplifies what a captain should be.

Maybe on the park

Time will tell off it

[JohnM1875]

Absolutely, yes. Sets a wonderful example and has for years.

Actually agree. Think it would be insanely harsh to take the captaincy off him. Aye he doesn't scream at players etc, but that doesn't make him a bad captain.

[LeithMike]

Hasn't he been playing during all those games we "lacked" those attributes?
You are just thinking about on the pitch though. What is he like on the training ground, what else does he do around the club, how does he get on with the media, what’s he like organising the players, can he be the conduit between the squad and the management team. All that has to be considered.Agree. One of the most important attributes of a captain is maturity. To recognise the right time to cajole or calm players, the right time and place for Cruyff turns and the ability to channel injustice into improved performance rather than petulance.

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[Allant1981]

And if we had more players like him and his attitude you can absolutely guarantee we'd not have performed as poorly as we did last season.

If all players were like him we wouldnt have had a team for most games!!

[Since90+2]

If all players were like him we wouldnt have had a team for most games!!

I seen someone's been duped by the media witch hunt of Porteous.

[Hibernian Verse]

Agree. One of the most important attributes of a captain is maturity. To recognise the right time to cajole or calm players, the right time and place for Cruyff turns and the ability to channel injustice into improved performance rather than petulance.

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That's reminded me of Andy Considine. He went mental at Calvin Ramsay when he was showboating 0-1 down at Easter Road in Maloney's first game.

[WhileTheChief..]

Let's splash the Doig cash on a tip-top quality centre forward and centre mid.

Get a couple of established, experienced players to give us a spine through the middle of the team including Marshall and Porto.

Then we'll be good to go.

[Hibernian Verse]

Let's splash the Doig cash on a tip-top quality centre forward and centre mid.

Get a couple of established, experienced players to give us a spine through the middle of the team including Marshall and Porto.

Then we'll be good to go.

Think you'll get a centre mid and a central defender rather than a forward. I think it'll be between Youan and Nisbet for the starting spot.

[B.H.F.C]

I think there's different ways of questioning it though, constructively like your post above or just trotting out the same stuff ad nauseam. Porto's season, and JR's and Hibs' season IMO all hinged on the sending off at Ibrox. If a Rangers, Celtc or Hearts player had suffered that fate their boards would have been outraged and would show pretty much unanimous support for the player. On Hibs Net, many condemn our player for what wasn't even the worst challenge in that match. We're called supporters for a reason, we support our club and we should support our players, not unreservedly but we're allowed to be biased and at least give them the benefit of the doubt. Too many on here IMO, automatically head in the other direction. I was in Portugal and saw the players up close. I have no doubt Porto is captain material and equally I have no doubt his peers regard him that way. As you say it's now time for him to walk the talk. I hope he will get that chance.

Agree with this.

Porteous missed games last season but it wasn’t all through to a lack of discipline. The retrospective red for smacking the boy in the balls certainly was.

Other than that he had the red at Ibrox (worse went totally unpunished as you say) and the red at Aberdeen when he was merely trying to prevent a goal (irrespective of the laws that was all he was trying to do in that split second).

I think he has an edge to his game that is needed and that we need more of. Captaincy could only have a positive effect on maturing him IMO.

[McGruber]

Let's splash the Doig cash on a tip-top quality centre forward and centre mid.

Get a couple of established, experienced players to give us a spine through the middle of the team including Marshall and Porto.

Then we'll be good to go.

Absolutely (plus centre back). Will give all our young players time and support to improve around them.. then take over

[xqnq1875]

Absolutely, yes. Sets a wonderful example and has for years.

Disagree with this, I love hanlon but he is not a leader I genuinely can’t recall him ever being loud on the pitch or trying to get the players motivated when we go a goal down but that’s just my opinion


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[Allant1981]

I seen someone's been duped by the media witch hunt of Porteous.

Aye thats what it is, you got me

[Alex Trager]

Disagree with this, I love hanlon but he is not a leader I genuinely can’t recall him ever being loud on the pitch or trying to get the players motivated when we go a goal down but that’s just my opinion


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I see this a lot.

Have you played alongside Hanlon before? Has anyone on this board played alongside Hanlon before? I would imagine the answer to be no.

I mean this in as cheek free a manner as possible, how do you or anybody have any idea how Hanlon corrales his team mates?

I’m not Hanlon’s biggest fan, but I can’t understand how people have this opinion of him, having never played alongside him.

Sure he’s no throwing his arms in the air or whatever but that doesn’t mean he’s not communicating and leading.

Another thing, that is not to say he IS communicating and leading, I’m pointing out that unless you’ve played with him you really can’t comment on his leadership ability.

[WhileTheChief..]

Think you'll get a centre mid and a central defender rather than a forward. I think it'll be between Youan and Nisbet for the starting spot.

I'd be happy with that if Nisbet was fit.

If he's going to be out until Oct/Nov we need someone else in. Last season taught us we can't rely on the line that 'we've got players to come back'.

We need to hit the ground running. That means goals!!!

Is it asking too much for 3 more players?!

[MWHIBBIES]

Disagree with this, I love hanlon but he is not a leader I genuinely can’t recall him ever being loud on the pitch or trying to get the players motivated when we go a goal down but that’s just my opinion


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Possibly, there is more than 1 way to lead?

Love Porteous but cannot recall him being a vital player in a cup winning team. Paul has.

Ryan needs to wait his time to captain Hibs. While Hanlon is still a key player for us, he should be captain.

[WhileTheChief..]

I see this a lot.

Have you played alongside Hanlon before? Has anyone on this board played alongside Hanlon before? I would imagine the answer to be no.

I mean this in as cheek free a manner as possible, how do you or anybody have any idea how Hanlon corrales his team mates?

I’m not Hanlon’s biggest fan, but I can’t understand how people have this opinion of him, having never played alongside him.

Sure he’s no throwing his arms in the air or whatever but that doesn’t mean he’s not communicating and leading.

Another thing, that is not to say he IS communicating and leading, I’m pointing out that unless you’ve played with him you really can’t comment on his leadership ability.

I've never met Zelensky but by god, he's a natural leader, it's clear for everyone to see!!

Listen to Hanlon's interviews. He's a model professional but he doesn't exactly inspire folk or come across as a natural leader of men.

When have you ever seen him on Sportscene or whatever fighting the club's case or giving his views on anything? He doesn't do it. He's quiet as a mouse when it comes to the media. I appreciate these are maybe minor points, but as club captain you represent us more than a squad player does.

Porto on the other hand seems to have something about him. A bit of character and charisma. People warm to him and I imagine he's popular in the dressing room. If he can use these traits to inspire his team mates I'm all for it.

[superfurryhibby]

Hibs will have taken c 6 million in transfer fees over the past year. Even allowing for monies paid for recent signings, there must surely be a few more incoming now. I fully expect to see some established first team type players in the door in the coming week.

It's a great move for Doig, hope he steps up a level or two and really makes a mark at Verona.

[cabbageandribs1875]

do we have a different team and club captain, i'm positive SDG was club captain for a bit even though he wasn't playing with PH team captain


or have i just Dreamt that up :rolleyes:

[bigwheel]

Disagree with this, I love hanlon but he is not a leader I genuinely can’t recall him ever being loud on the pitch or trying to get the players motivated when we go a goal down but that’s just my opinion


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There’s more than enough leaders on the pitch to do that - the days of chest thumping captains are long gone …..

[FitbaFolkKen]

He organises, he never shirks a physical challenge or battle, he's never intimidated or overawed and you can guarantee you'll get 100% every minute of every game from him.

He's exactly the type of captain and leader the club have been calling out for.

All that can be done without the armband, with the captain comes the responsibility of being an ambassador for the club. I don’t think Porto is at the level of David Gray, Lewis, Hanlon, McGregor in those terms.


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[Hibernian Verse]

I'd be happy with that if Nisbet was fit.

If he's going to be out until Oct/Nov we need someone else in. Last season taught us we can't rely on the line that 'we've got players to come back'.

We need to hit the ground running. That means goals!!!

Is it asking too much for 3 more players?!

Probably is asking too much. If you were the striker in mind you’d be told you will be vying for one spot with 3 others (Youan, Nisbet and Doidge). Are you signing the dotted line?

[WhileTheChief..]

Forgot about Doidge, kinda assuming he's away.

[Not In The Know]

[QUOTE=WhileTheChief..;7017212]Let's splash the Doig cash on a tip-top quality centre forward and centre mid.

Get a couple of established, experienced players to give us a spine through the middle of the team including Marshall and Porto.

Then we'll be good to go.[/QUOTE


Hopefully we do. But I wouldn’t be surprised if some of it was used already in the bringing some of the new players through the door.

[The_Sauz]

Why would Tavares and Youan be allowed to work 5 days a week but not a 6th?
From what I heard, is that players waiting on the final part of a work visa's, can play in practice/training matches, but not competitive matches! It's all to do with the home office rules I'm afraid:agree:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Let's splash the Doig cash on a tip-top quality centre forward and centre mid.

Get a couple of established, experienced players to give us a spine through the middle of the team including Marshall and Porto.

Then we'll be good to go.

Hoping so as well.

Two vital positions that will be make or break as to how good we are as an attacking team next season.

£6m in transfer fees in 6 months or so, surely that’s got to give us enough to get a couple of very good proven players in in key positions.

[Brightside]

I see this a lot.

Have you played alongside Hanlon before? Has anyone on this board played alongside Hanlon before? I would imagine the answer to be no.

I mean this in as cheek free a manner as possible, how do you or anybody have any idea how Hanlon corrales his team mates?

I’m not Hanlon’s biggest fan, but I can’t understand how people have this opinion of him, having never played alongside him.

Sure he’s no throwing his arms in the air or whatever but that doesn’t mean he’s not communicating and leading.

Another thing, that is not to say he IS communicating and leading, I’m pointing out that unless you’ve played with him you really can’t comment on his leadership ability.

Ask the players what they think of him. It’s full respect.

[Lago]

I take it would be a bit much to ask for some 'fans' to lay off the constant sniping at our own players.
They just can't help themselves, strange and disappointing.

[NC1875]

Possibly, there is more than 1 way to lead?

Love Porteous but cannot recall him being a vital player in a cup winning team. Paul has.

Ryan needs to wait his time to captain Hibs. While Hanlon is still a key player for us, he should be captain.

Might have guessed you’d be first to tell everyone how great Hanlon is.

He’s not a key player anymore, and therefore shouldn’t be captain.

[Ozyhibby]

Newell would make the perfect captain.

Of the new B team? [emoji1696]


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[Glass half full]

Leadership is about doing the right thing. How you carry yourself and motivate others by how you behave.

2 of our players have a Foundation as an example of this.

Should we need another captain, have we not just signed a player who has the respect of most Scottish football fans?

[Allant1981]

Might have guessed you’d be first to tell everyone how great Hanlon is.

He’s not a key player anymore, and therefore shouldn’t be captain.

Who said he isnt a key player any longer

[Ozyhibby]

If he signs a new deal and becomes club captain, it increases his sale value in the future.
Hanlon may not have done anything wrong but that doesn’t make this (if it happens) the wrong decision.


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[MWHIBBIES]

Might have guessed you’d be first to tell everyone how great Hanlon is.

He’s not a key player anymore, and therefore shouldn’t be captain.

He is still one of our best 2 central defenders, making him a key player.

Gray wasn't a key player basically right from us getting promoted. He remained captain for 4 years.

[chrisski33]

There’s more than enough leaders on the pitch to do that - the days of chest thumping captains are long gone …..

Shame but maybe the chest pumping captains need to come backninto the game?

[sleeping giant]

Might have guessed you’d be first to tell everyone how great Hanlon is.

He’s not a key player anymore, and therefore shouldn’t be captain.

Not a key player ?
Where do you get that from?

[WhileTheChief..]

If Porto stays and we sign a new CB then Hanlon will get less game time probably.

That's not a slight on him at all, it's about moving on and trying to improve. If we get someone in who does better we'll all be happy.

[Dmas]

If Porto stays and we sign a new CB then Hanlon will get less game time probably.

That's not a slight on him at all, it's about moving on and trying to improve. If we get someone in who does better we'll all be happy.

I wonder how many managers and new central defenders hibs have had that have came and gone in the time Hanlons been playing there, for the level we are playing at to buy a player better than Hanlon it would cost us a fortune, the same applied to stevenson before doig and age came into play, Paul Hanlon would play for every team outside the OF in this league criminally underrated, it’s shown near enough every time he’s out the team

[wookie70]

If Porto stays and we sign a new CB then Hanlon will get less game time probably.

That's not a slight on him at all, it's about moving on and trying to improve. If we get someone in who does better we'll all be happy. If it is right sided entre half maybe Ryan gets less game time. I see Hanlon and Porteous as our twofirst choice left and right centre backs

[Pagan Hibernia]

Brentford have bought Hickey from Bologna for £17 mill.

I wonder how much of that will make it back into hearts pockets with their sell on clause. Might be a lucrative deal for them.

[CapitalGreen]

Brentford have bought Hickey from Bologna for £17 mill.

I wonder how much of that will make it back into hearts pockets with their sell on clause. Might be a lucrative deal for them.

They’re getting £150k according to Kickback

[Craig_HFC]

Brentford have bought Hickey from Bologna for £17 mill.

I wonder how much of that will make it back into hearts pockets with their sell on clause. Might be a lucrative deal for them.

They didn’t have % sell-on, only a fixed fee which was 6 figures so nowhere near as much as they could have got if they’d had a brain when they sold him

[Libby Hibby]

There’s more than enough leaders on the pitch to do that - the days of chest thumping captains are long gone …..

Nonsense. Every team needs one leader. Not every good player makes a good captain. Whoever is captain needs to lead by example, take instructions form the bench and spur on other when they are not playing to their best…amongst other duties.

[Pagan Hibernia]

They’re getting £150k according to Kickback

good, that’s not too bad then :greengrin

[Pagan Hibernia]

They didn’t have % sell-on, only a fixed fee which was 6 figures so nowhere near as much as they could have got if they’d had a brain when they sold him

:aok:

[Mrimbetween]

I dont think anyone really knows but it looks like they could have got way more, which is mildly amusing

[Smartie]

If we didn’t have Paul Hanlon, I wonder what price we’d put on a mythical player who was in his early 30s, had the respect of the players, took part in the club’s most iconic trophy win, had many hundreds of appearances for the club and - when fit - remained a very useful player who can play out from the back?

Just because he’s under our noses it’s easy to undervalue Hanlon.

Can’t remember the guy’s name but in his book Roy Keane castigates a guy who was part of Mick McCarthy’s back room staff whose only job seemed to be to windmill his arms and shout “come on” a lot, pointing out how utterly pointless this was. It seems like this is the most important thing we want our captain to do now.

[WhileTheChief..]

If it is right sided entre half maybe Ryan gets less game time. I see Hanlon and Porteous as our twofirst choice left and right centre backs

As things stand, sure.

But if we bring in someone that LJ thinks is better, and can play either side in the middle, one of them drops to the bench.

I'm hoping we don't sign someone to cover for what we've already got though. I want us to be signing players that are better than the existing ones.

[Hibbyradge]

They’re getting £150k according to Kickback

I thought that was what they thought they were getting from our sale of Doig.

[JohnM1875]

I thought that was what they thought they were getting from our sale of Doig.

Nope, apparently what they're getting for Hickey. Hilarious 😂😂

[Paulie Walnuts]

I thought that was what they thought they were getting from our sale of Doig.

If they released Doig then surely they’re not due anything?

[bigwheel]

If they released Doig then surely they’re not due anything?

Think they get a very small
Amount ..in the same way Hutchie Vale would ..to respect their time developing him - a few thousand quid …

[Since90+2]

As things stand, sure.

But if we bring in someone that LJ thinks is better, and can play either side in the middle, one of them drops to the bench.

I'm hoping we don't sign someone to cover for what we've already got though. I want us to be signing players that are better than the existing ones.

If Porteous is here he'll be the first choice centre half. I'd be very surprised if were able to sign some one better than him.

[GloryGlory]

Nope, apparently what they're getting for Hickey. Hilarious 😂😂

Less than a 1% sell on! :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Think they get a very small
Amount ..in the same way Hutchie Vale would ..to respect their time developing him - a few thousand quid …

Solidarity payments. Every club which helps develop a player up till the age of 23 (iirc) get a small payment in addition to any transfer fees etc.

[Hibbyradge]

Nope, apparently what they're getting for Hickey. Hilarious 😂😂

They've applied 10% sell on fee to the fee they already received!

[SteveHFC]

LJ said after game that there will be 2 but possibly 3 players coming in

[Since452]

LJ said after game that there will be 2 but possibly 3 players coming in

Interesting. Looking forward to more new faces.

[SteveHFC]

Interesting. Looking forward to more new faces.

Hopefully only 2 new faces and a known face

[Springbank]

Hopefully only 2 new faces and a known face

If I had a once in a lifetime chance of playing v mbappe &Ericsson at a world Cup finals I wouldn't risk it being stuck in Saudi league 2

[USAHibee]

Hearts are due absolutely nothing from Doigs sale as they didn't offer him a professional contract. We keep the lot...

[Johnny_Leith]

If I had a once in a lifetime chance of playing v mbappe &Ericsson at a world Cup finals I wouldn't risk it being stuck in Saudi league 2

Australia won't drop Boyle if he's fit, no matter what league he's in.

[tamig]

Australia won't drop Boyle if he's fit, no matter what league he's in.

I don’t think that was the point.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Australia won't drop Boyle if he's fit, no matter what league he's in.

Yup.

He’s done more than enough that he’ll be on the plane regardless.

[04Sauzee]

Hearts are due absolutely nothing from Doigs sale as they didn't offer him a professional contract. We keep the lot...

I'm sure development fees get filtered through regardless. A very small percentage which I'm not sure off.

[Johnny_Leith]

I don’t think that was the point.

I get that he's saying he wants Boyle back to Hibs and it's just a form of hyperbole but I couldn't let it lie haha. We all want Martin back and hopefully it'll happen.

[CapitalGreen]

Hearts are due absolutely nothing from Doigs sale as they didn't offer him a professional contract. We keep the lot...

That’s not correct. Read up on the FIFA solidarity payment scheme and you will see that every club involved in his development between the ages of 12 and 23 are due a proportion of 5% of the transfer fee.

[Hibeesforever]

Mcclellend is the real deal, so calm on the ball, Alan Hansen!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Mcclellend is the real deal, so calm on the ball, Alan Hansen!

Don't want to get carried away, but he looked so comfortable. High hopes

Attacking left back will hopefully be on the list with Doig leaving

[hfcok]

Mcclellend is the real deal, so calm on the ball, Alan Hansen!

Yes he is, he’s looks taller than I thought, took a couple of dull ones the day got back up for more 😂.

[Squealing pig]

I think we are ready 💪

[JamesHFC]

Mcclellend is the real deal, so calm on the ball, Alan Hansen!

Although the opposition wasn’t the best, he was full of confidence. High hopes for this lad.

[stokesmessiah]

LJ said after game that there will be 2 but possibly 3 players coming in

A lb a cb and Martin Boyle ?

😉

[Col2]

For me priority is:

1. CB x 1
2. Attacking Mid x 1
3. Winger/striker.
3 LB (but I think we are covered with Lewis, Martin and Mitchell)

A dream situation would be
1. Jason Kerr (Wigan in financial trouble?)
2. Jamie McGrath (loan bing suggested to Dundee Utd)
3. Martin Boyle (game changes our season. Impact, speed, assists and goals)

[SMAXXA]

There’s no interest in the Boyle deal as player doesn’t want to move understandable. I said a week or so ago Doig would leave within a couple of weeks but at the time there were a couple of teams in the mix, it’s been sorted now and a great deal for all concerned. Said at the same time I don’t expect hibs to replace him some may argue against that but I think the priorities are elsewhere. We have Stevenson, Mitchell and both Cadden and killer who can play there. Time will tell on that the manager may think differently.

[04Sauzee]

There’s no interest in the Boyle deal as player doesn’t want to move understandable. I said a week or so ago Doig would leave within a couple of weeks but at the time there were a couple of teams in the mix, it’s been sorted now and a great deal for all concerned. Said at the same time I don’t expect hibs to replace him some may argue against that but I think the priorities are elsewhere. We have Stevenson, Mitchell and both Cadden and killer who can play there. Time will tell on that the manager may think differently.

Killer Miller, I like it 😁

[donno]

OK, I'll bend over and take it without lube. Never in a million years did I think we would sell him for £3m! Good luck to the lad, and hope he kicks on like SJM.

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[MagicSwirlingShip]

Mcclellend is the real deal, so calm on the ball, Alan Hansen!

Not afraid of putting his head in where it hurts too, impresses by him!

[MrRobot]

Newell would make the perfect captain.

agree completely

[1875Sean]

For me priority is:

1. CB x 1
2. Attacking Mid x 1
3. Winger/striker.
3 LB (but I think we are covered with Lewis, Martin and Mitchell)

A dream situation would be
1. Jason Kerr (Wigan in financial trouble?)
2. Jamie McGrath (loan bing suggested to Dundee Utd)
3. Martin Boyle (game changes our season. Impact, speed, assists and goals)

No sure about Boyle at left back

[hibbyfraelibby]

That’s not correct. Read up on the FIFA solidarity payment scheme and you will see that every club involved in his development between the ages of 12 and 23 are due a proportion of 5% of the transfer fee.

Read up on the exceptions. They are due the square root of heehaw due to the manner of their termination of his engagement. This was all clarified last year. Levein basically cocked up.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

I'd be happy with that if Nisbet was fit.

If he's going to be out until Oct/Nov we need someone else in. Last season taught us we can't rely on the line that 'we've got players to come back'.

We need to hit the ground running. That means goals!!!

Is it asking too much for 3 more players?!

:agree:

[Leith Green]

Funny as **** that they managed to do a deal for Hickey that means they gain absolutely nothing when he moves for 20 million. If the boot was on the other foot , we would all be going absolutely mental and calling for heads to rolll.. And they think we are mentally weak 😂

[04Sauzee]

Craig Sibbald to Dundee Utd on a 2 year deal according to reports

[McGruber]

LJ said after game that there will be 2 but possibly 3 players coming in

To be pedantic.. think he said certainly 1 more, hopefully 2 and possibly 3.

For what it's worth I think there will be a fair bit of ins and outs to go yet.

[04Sauzee]

To be pedantic.. think he said certainly 1 more, hopefully 2 and possibly 3.

For what it's worth I think there will be a fair bit of ins and outs to go yet.

That's what I heard, possibility of a few younger players going out on loan.

I reckon we have space for 3 as it stands.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Craig Sibbald to Dundee Utd on a 2 year deal according to reports



i've always quite liked sibbald, fell out of the picture a tad at Livi last season


his brother has a ST for ER iirc

[04Sauzee]

Not sure If it's already been mentioned but Liam Fontain has signed for FC Edinburgh

[cabbageandribs1875]

No sure about Boyle at left back


or jason kerr in goals, not after we've just signed david marshall anyway

[bingo70]

Craig Sibbald to Dundee Utd on a 2 year deal according to reports

One of those annoying players that’s pretty hang average but always scores against us.

Would rather he joined a foreign side.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Not sure If it's already been mentioned but Liam Fontain has signed for FC Edinburgh

Legend’

[Lancs Harp]

Not sure If it's already been mentioned but Liam Fontain has signed for FC Edinburgh

How old is Liam now? 36?

[B.H.F.C]

Not sure If it's already been mentioned but Liam Fontain has signed for FC Edinburgh

Good luck to him. Always felt he was one of the forgotten guys of the Scottish Cup team and I thought he was underrated for us. Mistake in the League Cup final for Ross County to score but then put in a brilliant performance up at Inverness in the replay in the Scottish 3 days later. Legend.

[bingo70]

Good luck to him. Always felt he was one of the forgotten guys of the Scottish Cup team and I thought he was underrated for us. Mistake in the League Cup final for Ross County to score but then put in a brilliant performance up at Inverness in the replay in the Scottish 3 days later. Legend.

Really? When I think of the Scottish cup winning team he’s right up there as one of the key men for me.

Not saying you’re wrong by the way, clearly a personal thing but I always liked him and certainly not under rated by me.

[B.H.F.C]

Really? When I think of the Scottish cup winning team he’s right up there as one of the key men for me.

Not saying you’re wrong by the way, clearly a personal thing but I always liked him and certainly not under rated by me.

Just always thought he went under the radar a bit. The likes of Marv coming back with Livi was a big thing, never thought it was the same with Fontaine. Remember him coming over to the Hibs end against Ross County when we played them up there, not long after he’d left and getting a good reception.

Remember the likes of Keatings and Fyvie getting a standing ovation at ER. Maybe it’s just because Fontaine didn’t get subbed that he didn’t get similar and I’m just imagining it!

[CapitalGreen]

Read up on the exceptions. They are due the square root of heehaw due to the manner of their termination of his engagement. This was all clarified last year. Levein basically cocked up.

You’ve definitely not read the exceptions if you think that’s the case. The most likely scenario is you’ve read the rules about training compensation rather than the rules about solidarity payments. The manner in which a player leaves a club has no bearing on solidarity payments.

[neil7908]

There’s no interest in the Boyle deal as player doesn’t want to move understandable. I said a week or so ago Doig would leave within a couple of weeks but at the time there were a couple of teams in the mix, it’s been sorted now and a great deal for all concerned. Said at the same time I don’t expect hibs to replace him some may argue against that but I think the priorities are elsewhere. We have Stevenson, Mitchell and both Cadden and killer who can play there. Time will tell on that the manager may think differently.

I would be worried about not replacing Doig. Our attack is looking much sharper, we have more choices in midfield but then defence is a worry for me right now.

I appreciate we still have plenty of time to bring in players but I think we need a CB and LB or we could find ourselves in trouble this year.

[Alex Trager]

I would be worried about not replacing Doig. Our attack is looking much sharper, we have more choices in midfield but then defence is a worry for me right now.

I appreciate we still have plenty of time to bring in players but I think we need a CB and LB or we could find ourselves in trouble this year.
Agree. We need to do exactly that.

I’d like to see a CM added as well

[SMAXXA]

Agree. We need to do exactly that.

I’d like to see a CM added as well

Does Mitchell just sit and pick up a wage?

[B.H.F.C]

Does Mitchell just sit and pick up a wage?

For most of his time here he has, aye. Also, don’t think he’s as good a LB as Doig and played a fair chunk of his games further forward.

Don’t think you can lose a player rated that highly and not look to replace.

[Unseen work]

I think we need a left back too.

Think Mitchell could play on either wing and is pretty injury prone so I’d be hesitant relying on him as a starter.

Suppose we still have Stevenson who is solid but I was someone like Josh who can step past someone and take us up t he pitch too.

[Dazzjw1875]

I reckon we will see a couple incoming next week, no inside info I just think LJ isn't the guy to mess around he will know who he wants and want them in asap to work with he will have planned for Doig leaving. I think we still need left sided CB LB and a AM playmaker. But defo in a good place squad is looking decent.

[MWHIBBIES]

For most of his time here he has, aye. Also, don’t think he’s as good a LB as Doig and played a fair chunk of his games further forward.

Don’t think you can lose a player rated that highly and not look to replace.

Mitchell has been injured after a good start. No idea why folk feel the need to make these wide comments about players who are injured, as if they are enjoying it. Especially after dozens of stories in the last few years alone about much being injured can effect athletes mental health.

He has not been sitting picking up a wage. Hes been injured and working his way back.

[Alex Trager]

Does Mitchell just sit and pick up a wage?

Na I think he is better further forward

[SON OF PADDY]

Mitchell has been injured after a good start. No idea why folk feel the need to make these wide comments about players who are injured, as if they are enjoying it. Especially after dozens of stories in the last few years alone about much being injured can effect athletes mental health.

He has not been sitting picking up a wage. Hes been injured and working his way back.


This 💯%.

[sadtom]

Just a wee reminder…we are still only allowed to have 11 players on the park at any one time.

In Portugal, we played 2 teams of 11 in both games, all seemed to acquit themselves well to the point that all could do a job in a starting 11.
Add to those 22 players, Hanlon, Magennis, Nisbet, Mitchell and Bojang. Although it looks certain than Doig will be away.
On top of that there are a couple of younger lads knocking on the door too then we appear to have a lot of options.

Thats great that the depth of the squad is much stronger and it gives the manager a ‘good’ headache when picking the team. It’s also helpful in this day and age when so many subs are allowed. However, I think there comes a point when you can have too many options and keeping those who are not featuring, happy and involved becomes a problem.

There is something to be said for continuity and consistency. When Dundee Utd won the league in the 80’s they were fortunate with injuries/suspensions but if memory serves they only used about 14 players all season. Admittedly those days are long gone. But currently having 26 players (as above) along with a few emerging pups that are all capable means that if we are not already at that point then we are close to having too many options, imho. (I know there is the B or development team too).

LJ said potentially another 3 additions on top of that (though he also said he would be happy to go with what he has now).

Personally I would think that someone who can play left sided centre back and left back would be useful but otherwise unless it’s a real blockbuster signing (for instance bringing Boyle back) then we will need to move a good few on before adding.
And who would be deemed surplus to requirements?

For me the biggest priority now would be to break the bank to keep Porteous. How much would he cost to replace? We couldn’t afford him.

If we are playing with a front 3 who would get the nod out of Melkerson, Nisbet, Doidge, Tavares, Youan, McGeady? Not to mention the more attack minded midfielders or wide players (Magennis, Hauge, Mitchell, Henderson) and the emerging youngsters.

I am excited and looking forward to the season ahead but a little concerned that the squad is getting too bloated.

[neil7908]

Na I think he is better further forward

Agreed. I always thought he was a winger, at a push a very attacking wing back.

[Springbank]

Agreed. I always thought he was a winger, at a push a very attacking wing back.

Wonder if the management are thinking along these lines, for the left back position

Home games vs everyone(except derbies/OF) = Mitchell or Miller for forward thinking tactics

Home games vs Hearts/OF = Stevenson for solidity

Away games = more likely Stevenson, with ability to sub in Mitchell/Miller

[CapitalGreen]

Just a wee reminder…we are still only allowed to have 11 players on the park at any one time.

In Portugal, we played 2 teams of 11 in both games, all seemed to acquit themselves well to the point that all could do a job in a starting 11.
Add to those 22 players, Hanlon, Magennis, Nisbet, Mitchell and Bojang. Although it looks certain than Doig will be away.
On top of that there are a couple of younger lads knocking on the door too then we appear to have a lot of options.

Thats great that the depth of the squad is much stronger and it gives the manager a ‘good’ headache when picking the team. It’s also helpful in this day and age when so many subs are allowed. However, I think there comes a point when you can have too many options and keeping those who are not featuring, happy and involved becomes a problem.

There is something to be said for continuity and consistency. When Dundee Utd won the league in the 80’s they were fortunate with injuries/suspensions but if memory serves they only used about 14 players all season. Admittedly those days are long gone. But currently having 26 players (as above) along with a few emerging pups that are all capable means that if we are not already at that point then we are close to having too many options, imho. (I know there is the B or development team too).

LJ said potentially another 3 additions on top of that (though he also said he would be happy to go with what he has now).

Personally I would think that someone who can play left sided centre back and left back would be useful but otherwise unless it’s a real blockbuster signing (for instance bringing Boyle back) then we will need to move a good few on before adding.
And who would be deemed surplus to requirements?

For me the biggest priority now would be to break the bank to keep Porteous. How much would he cost to replace? We couldn’t afford him.

If we are playing with a front 3 who would get the nod out of Melkerson, Nisbet, Doidge, Tavares, Youan, McGeady? Not to mention the more attack minded midfielders or wide players (Magennis, Hauge, Mitchell, Henderson) and the emerging youngsters.

I am excited and looking forward to the season ahead but a little concerned that the squad is getting too bloated.

You’ve described a perfect scenario where we have a full squad free of injury and suspension, in reality that will never happen.

[CL0762]

Disagree with this, I love hanlon but he is not a leader I genuinely can’t recall him ever being loud on the pitch or trying to get the players motivated when we go a goal down but that’s just my opinion


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Absolute nonsense.

I suggest you go back and watch the Aberdeen game 20/21 season when we finished third when Doidge scored the volley.

For the entirety of the first half (that’s where the mics were positioned) Paul talked Josh Doig through every single minute of that first half.

Typical ‘I WANT A SHOUTY CAPTAIN WHO GRRS AT PEOPLE’ type of response.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Absolute nonsense.

I suggest you go back and watch the Aberdeen game 20/21 season when we finished third when Doidge scored the volley.

For the entirety of the first half (that’s where the mics were positioned) Paul talked Josh Doig through every single minute of that first half.

Typical ‘I WANT A SHOUTY CAPTAIN WHO GRRS AT PEOPLE’ type of response.

A captain is also a leader off the pitch not just the 90m on it. Porto is nowhere ready for that role yet

[sadtom]

You’ve described a perfect scenario where we have a full squad free of injury and suspension, in reality that will never happen.

Agreed. But I still think we are maybe a couple heavy in the squad. And if there are further additions it’s not going to be easy to keep them all sweet and it will lessen opportunities for youth players to get chances, or even get the experience of being in the match day squad.
It’s not the worst problem to have and obviously it’s better to have too many options than too few. But, for me, ideally I reckon a squad of 22-23 who are known to be reliable at that level with a few emerging youngsters to supplement it would be preferable.

[B.H.F.C]

Mitchell has been injured after a good start. No idea why folk feel the need to make these wide comments about players who are injured, as if they are enjoying it. Especially after dozens of stories in the last few years alone about much being injured can effect athletes mental health.

He has not been sitting picking up a wage. Hes been injured and working his way back.

I’m not being wide, it’s just that from a playing perspective he’s not been able to contribute nearly enough (for reasons which we know). Nothing to enjoy in that.

He’s been getting a wage without doing the thing we’re paying him a wage for (that’s nothing against him by the way as he’s perfectly entitled to it).

We need to sign a replacement for Doig IMO.

[Mcbizz1998]

OK, I'll bend over and take it without lube. Never in a million years did I think we would sell him for £3m! Good luck to the lad, and hope he kicks on like SJM.

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I agree. Shows how what we know! But I’m delighted we got that much and for the lad, great move for him.

[Mcbizz1998]

i've always quite liked sibbald, fell out of the picture a tad at Livi last season


his brother has a ST for ER iirc

Used to work with his brother, Gary. Good lad and deffo a hibby.

[CapitalGreen]

i've always quite liked sibbald, fell out of the picture a tad at Livi last season


his brother has a ST for ER iirc

He looked a great prospect when playing for Falkirk in his teens, I thought he’d go on to make it big. He used always play well against us.

[Since452]

OK, I'll bend over and take it without lube. Never in a million years did I think we would sell him for £3m! Good luck to the lad, and hope he kicks on like SJM.

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3 million cash upfront too. Fantastic deal for us. 6 million between Boyle and Doig eats in to Hearts financial advantage in massively.

[neil7908]

3 million cash upfront too. Fantastic deal for us. 6 million between Boyle and Doig eats in to Hearts financial advantage in massively.

Yup, £3m this summer plus ad ons, whatever they are, is a great deal for us and also the player. After the stick the club took last summer with the uncertainty around his future, they have played a blinder here.

Also brilliant to have the deal done in mid July so we have plenty of time to reinvest in the squad.

[Hibiza]

Does Mitchell just sit and pick up a wage?

That's a poor Text , a complete professional who's hadsome injury problems , a very good player too. All the best.

[Walter]

A captain is also a leader off the pitch not just the 90m on it. Porto is nowhere ready for that role yet

Having spent time in the gym next to Hanlon I can vouch for him setting an example.

Of course in my case the gym visits are now historical

[Wilson]

Having spent time in the gym next to Hanlon I can vouch for him setting an example.

Of course in my case the gym visits are now historical

Too busy watching nordic dramas for channel 4.

[aberhibsfc]

I hope Doig's transfer has add-ons and some will be released to finance some further players for this season.

[Brightside]

Too busy watching nordic dramas for channel 4.

Good post 😂

[flash]

I hope Doig's transfer has add-ons and some will be released to finance some further players for this season.

How can the add ons be released before he has even played for them?

[cameronw-hfc]

A lot of Nicky Cadden talk on twitter. Deal to Barnsley seems to have hit a standstill

[04Sauzee]

A lot of Nicky Cadden talk on twitter. Deal to Barnsley seems to have hit a standstill

Is that not just wishful thinking on some fans behalf though?

[bingo70]

A lot of Nicky Cadden talk on twitter. Deal to Barnsley seems to have hit a standstill

He was at the Barnsley game yesterday apparently

[aberhibsfc]

How can the add ons be released before he has even played for them?

What I mean is I hope there are add ons included (which would obviously only generate funds when reached) as I believe he could go on and be more valuable than the £3m. And that some of any initial transfer fee received goes back into new players.

[King Cosell]

A lot of Nicky Cadden talk on twitter. Deal to Barnsley seems to have hit a standstill

They don't want to end up like Jedward. They've never played for the same team. Probably get on really well but have different friends/lives.

[Wilson]

They don't want to end up like Jedward. They've never played for the same team. Probably get on really well but have different friends/lives.

Nichris.

[Iain G]

Nichris.

Chricky?

[Unseen work]

Nicky Cadden would be a bit of a weird one for me.

He’s similar to Mitchell positionally, he’s a modern wing back who is good and quick going forward but probably not good enough defensively to play full back.

We also have McGeady, Tavares, Youan, Hauge, Melkersen, Mitchell, Henderson that can all play on the left.

[Manxhibs]

Any news on the work permits for the lads that missed out on Saturday?

[Mikey_1875]

Any news on the work permits for the lads that missed out on Saturday?

Not seen anything yet but I would expect the match preview for the Falkirk game to be out later today. I’d be pleasantly surprised if it was resolved for tomorrow though!

[bingo70]

Any news on the work permits for the lads that missed out on Saturday?

What’s happened to the American guy who was on loan at Charleston? I thought his loan spell got cut short with them as we’d managed to secure a work permit?

[Walter]

Too busy watching nordic dramas for channel 4.

This has gone right over my head. Don't know how to do the whoosh

[matty_f]

What’s happened to the American guy who was on loan at Charleston? I thought his loan spell got cut short with them as we’d managed to secure a work permit?

Think he came back and went straight to the development side.

[Brightside]

This has gone right over my head. Don't know how to do the whoosh

Walter is a production house within Channel 4 that invest in Nordic and other foreign dramas.

[flash]

Walter is a production house within Channel 4 that invest in Nordic and other foreign dramas.

Jeez the jokes on here are getting far too clever for the likes of me :greengrin

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/geemacgee/status/1546403319861633025?s=21&t=h4MuMrkXHAltItWYdmV6hA

Fee for Reuben McAllister could reach 500k.

250k upfront and the rest in potential add ons.

Must be very confident in the lad that we can make a quick profit if it’s a 3 year deal as reported.

[GloryGlory]

https://twitter.com/geemacgee/status/1546403319861633025?s=21&t=h4MuMrkXHAltItWYdmV6hA

Fee for Reuben McAllister could reach 500k.

250k upfront and the rest in potential add ons.

Must be very confident in the lad that we can make a quick profit if it’s a 3 year deal as reported.

The regulations about youth players restrict contracts to 3 years max. I imagine Hibs will be looking to increase that as soon as regulations permit.

[hibbyfraelibby]

https://twitter.com/geemacgee/status/1546403319861633025?s=21&t=h4MuMrkXHAltItWYdmV6hA

Fee for Reuben McAllister could reach 500k.

250k upfront and the rest in potential add ons.

Must be very confident in the lad that we can make a quick profit if it’s a 3 year deal as reported.

Because of his age we cannot offer him a longer contract under FIFA regs but agree that we must have a fair degree of confidence in his potential sell on fee.

[Dmas]

https://twitter.com/geemacgee/status/1546403319861633025?s=21&t=h4MuMrkXHAltItWYdmV6hA

Fee for Reuben McAllister could reach 500k.

250k upfront and the rest in potential add ons.

Must be very confident in the lad that we can make a quick profit if it’s a 3 year deal as reported.


Surely they think he can make an impact right away spending that sort of money?

[Northernhibee]

Surely they think he can make an impact right away spending that sort of money?

I’d imagine a year minimum in the development squad tbh. Still, looking like a talent at the age of 15 in a U23 squad is impressive and by the sounds of it he’s well ahead of schedule.

[Dmas]

I’d imagine a year minimum in the development squad tbh. Still, looking like a talent at the age of 15 in a U23 squad is impressive and by the sounds of it he’s well ahead of schedule.

I’m all for the development team route we’re going down I think it’s quite exciting but if those numbers are true it’s quite something to spend that on a player that won’t make an impact straight away on first team, We spent around 400k on melkerson I believe he went straight into the team I know injuries maybe rushed it but he was never ear marked solely for Bteam

[Since452]

Definatley a case of speculate to accumulate with this one. 250K upftont is a huge outlay for a 16 year old at our level.

[Unseen work]

Doig having his medical today.

[TRC]

I mean we must have an agreement with McAllister, can't imagine we would be sign him for that money, and not have a plan for the contract. say he gets to 19, an age where a lot of players break into first teams maybe 18. Plays well and we lose him for a pittance. Seems strange to me. It's not really a speculate to accumulate. I wonder if Hibs have it in place that he signs a contract on his 18th birthday providing certain criteria are met. Just such a large sum for a teenager. The amount of players that, have been world beaters at that age group, but never progress .

[CapitalGreen]

I mean we must have an agreement with McAllister, can't imagine we would be sign him for that money, and not have a plan for the contract. say he gets to 19, an age where a lot of players break into first teams maybe 18. Plays well and we lose him for a pittance. Seems strange to me. It's not really a speculate to accumulate. I wonder if Hibs have it in place that he signs a contract on his 18th birthday providing certain criteria are met. Just such a large sum for a teenager. The amount of players that, have been world beaters at that age group, but never progress .

We don’t need to wait until he’s 18 to give him a new contract, we just need to wait until he’s 18 to give him one exceeding 3 years. Like all young players, his contract will be reviewed with increases and extensions offered reflecting his development. If he continues developing as we hope, he’ll no doubt be offered a new 3 year deal in a years time.

[Hibernian Verse]

I’m all for the development team route we’re going down I think it’s quite exciting but if those numbers are true it’s quite something to spend that on a player that won’t make an impact straight away on first team, We spent around 400k on melkerson I believe he went straight into the team I know injuries maybe rushed it but he was never ear marked solely for Bteam

250k now, and he might break through in 2023. Or, he stays at Bristol and breaks through because we didn't pay the fee and we've no chance of landing him.

So many permutations, but I think LJ and Ian Gordon have enough credit in the bank so far this summer to suggest we're on the right path.

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen announced Ylber Ramanadani on the 8th of June and that's him now on the Aberdeen website scarf above the head so assume his work permit had just come through.

[chippy]

I’m all for the development team route we’re going down I think it’s quite exciting but if those numbers are true it’s quite something to spend that on a player that won’t make an impact straight away on first team, We spent around 400k on melkerson I believe he went straight into the team I know injuries maybe rushed it but he was never ear marked solely for Bteam
If he’s an exceptional talent I think we’ll be seeing him in the 1st team a few times after Xmas. On the bench and comes on for last 15/20 of some games

[Stuart93]

Definatley a case of speculate to accumulate with this one. 250K upftont is a huge outlay for a 16 year old at our level.

Huge amount that.

Could’ve seen a decent established pro come in for that amount and went into the first team so they’ve obviously got high hopes for the lad.

Hopefully he’s in the first team soon!

[SMAXXA]

I mean we must have an agreement with McAllister, can't imagine we would be sign him for that money, and not have a plan for the contract. say he gets to 19, an age where a lot of players break into first teams maybe 18. Plays well and we lose him for a pittance. Seems strange to me. It's not really a speculate to accumulate. I wonder if Hibs have it in place that he signs a contract on his 18th birthday providing certain criteria are met. Just such a large sum for a teenager. The amount of players that, have been world beaters at that age group, but never progress .

Don’t forget we would be due any development fee if he was to move on after the 3 years assuming we offered him a contract to extend his deal at that stage so not like we would get nothing.

[CapitalGreen]

Huge amount that.

Could’ve seen a decent established pro come in for that amount and went into the first team so they’ve obviously got high hopes for the lad.

Hopefully he’s in the first team soon!

Which one?

[Stuart93]

Which one?

Not sure mate. There’s plenty of them though. With a decent sized scouting team like we have I’m sure they’d be a bit better placed than myself to find someone. We’ve spent money like that before to bring established players in.

I’m not saying I dislike the fact we’ve spent that or signed the young lad, only using it as a barometer of how much hope they must have for him.

[RyeSloan]

Not sure mate. There’s plenty of them though. With a decent sized scouting team like we have I’m sure they’d be a bit better placed than myself to find someone. We’ve spent money like that before to bring established players in.

I’m not saying I dislike the fact we’ve spent that or signed the young lad, only using it as a barometer of how much hope they must have for him.

Correct. We are clearly pursuing a twin track approach here. Investing in youth and looking to bring them through the development route as well as building out the first team.

We better get used to this concept as it’s one I think we will be pursuing for a while.

It’s probably more noticeable this year (and last window) as we needed to build critical mass in the development ranks. Going forward the development team should see a number of players come up from the U18’s as well as the occasional investment like this.

Then for the first team we should see a number of players added from the dev ranks and the occasional investment from outside our own system.

It’s a smart play and one, if done correctly, should see us benefit significantly with real quality coming through the ranks, being able to afford real quality buys into the first team and sucking in more Doig like transfer fees as we go…all contributing to a virtuous cycle.

Will take time to come to fruition of course but I’m 100% behind the concept.

[CapitalGreen]

Not sure mate. There’s plenty of them though. With a decent sized scouting team like we have I’m sure they’d be a bit better placed than myself to find someone. We’ve spent money like that before to bring established players in.

I’m not saying I dislike the fact we’ve spent that or signed the young lad, only using it as a barometer of how much hope they must have for him.

Apologies, by established I assumed you meant players established in our league.

[04Sauzee]

Nicky Cadden signs for Barnsley.

[Dmas]

Correct. We are clearly pursuing a twin track approach here. Investing in youth and looking to bring them through the development route as well as building out the first team.

We better get used to this concept as it’s one I think we will be pursuing for a while.

It’s probably more noticeable this year (and last window) as we needed to build critical mass in the development ranks. Going forward the development team should see a number of players come up from the U18’s as well as the occasional investment like this.

Then for the first team we should see a number of players added from the dev ranks and the occasional investment from outside our own system.

It’s a smart play and one, if done correctly, should see us benefit significantly with real quality coming through the ranks, being able to afford real quality buys into the first team and sucking in more Doig like transfer fees as we go…all contributing to a virtuous cycle.

Will take time to come to fruition of course but I’m 100% behind the concept.

Definitely behind the concept as I’ve said it’s exciting I can see the benefits but I also share the concern on the amounts spent though, off the back of a poor season you would think the immediate concern was to make sure the first team was strong, I mean we weren’t strictly safe from relegation last year till very late on, spending money like this you’d want the player to make an impact, he may well do I’ve absolutely no idea about the guy but 250k a lot of money for us to wait 12-18months.
Also with it being a signing LJ is making rather than SK, if we’re allowing the guy to sign a young boy like this for decent money we can’t turn round and sack him after 6months it’s pointless allowing him to plan for 2 years in advance

[Springbank]

Correct. We are clearly pursuing a twin track approach here. Investing in youth and looking to bring them through the development route as well as building out the first team.

We better get used to this concept as it’s one I think we will be pursuing for a while.

It’s probably more noticeable this year (and last window) as we needed to build critical mass in the development ranks. Going forward the development team should see a number of players come up from the U18’s as well as the occasional investment like this.

Then for the first team we should see a number of players added from the dev ranks and the occasional investment from outside our own system.

It’s a smart play and one, if done correctly, should see us benefit significantly with real quality coming through the ranks, being able to afford real quality buys into the first team and sucking in more Doig like transfer fees as we go…all contributing to a virtuous cycle.

Will take time to come to fruition of course but I’m 100% behind the concept.

In a way, if we'd spent £250k to sign a proven international talent in goals (David Marshall) and picked up Reuben McAllister for free, then there might be less of a debate on the risks involved.

As it stands, we've signed both Marshall and McAllister for the combined transfer fee of £250k, with the young midfielder earmarked as one who could do a Billy Gilmour & reach serious heights, if developed in the right way.

I think it's been the best window since Lennon's winter window (Allan, Stokes, McLaren etc) and McAllister on paper looks like a great signing

[we are hibs]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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[RyeSloan]

Definitely behind the concept as I’ve said it’s exciting I can see the benefits but I also share the concern on the amounts spent though, off the back of a poor season you would think the immediate concern was to make sure the first team was strong, I mean we weren’t strictly safe from relegation last year till very late on, spending money like this you’d want the player to make an impact, he may well do I’ve absolutely no idea about the guy but 250k a lot of money for us to wait 12-18months.
Also with it being a signing LJ is making rather than SK, if we’re allowing the guy to sign a young boy like this for decent money we can’t turn round and sack him after 6months it’s pointless allowing him to plan for 2 years in advance

LJ himself addressed you last point in a recent interview. He stated that his job was to make decisions on a daily basis on the assumption he would be here forever but with the knowledge he could be gone tomorrow.

You can’t not plan for the future just because a managers job can be rather fragile.

And the whole point of putting in a development route is that this is a structure that is independent of any first team manager. Sure he will have a big part to play in bringing those players into the first team but that’s the role not the man so anyone sitting in the managers chair will be expected to have fully bought into this approach.

[Brightside]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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It says no fee but he's under contract until 2026? Odd one.

[Nevi_SOL]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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Going of a quick google search. Was in Talks with the rangers and turned down moves to Italy, Poland etc, seems a good signing, 25 year old

[Col2]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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Good spot!!

On paper experienced left back/wing back. Rangers were reported to be interested in him 18 months ago before he went to Zagreb (Croatian champions). Been loaned out to top tier Slovenian and Hungarian sides.

Here is the link the rangers interest - I know it’s the sun.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6429948/cabraja-rangers-transfer-barisic/

[Nevi_SOL]

Dinamo got rid of another player on Monday. Marijan Čabraja, the left back, is traveling to Scotland today where, after completing all the formalities, he will sign for Hibernian.
Čabraja came from Gorica a year and a half ago in a package with Darij Špikić, he played 10 games (eight in the HNL and two in the Cup), but last summer he fell out of Dinamo's strong competition with left backs, went on loan to Ferencvaros, while he spent the last part of the season in Olympia. At the end of his loan, he returned to Maksimir, and even though Čačić is now having problems in that position, Čabraja is not in the combinations, it was clear that he will look for a new club.
After certain talks with clubs from Poland, Hibernian appeared, which quickly reached an agreement with Dinamo about the transfer. The Blues have given the green light for Čabraja's permanent departure without compensation, so it is not a loan, and the Scots will pay Dinamo a certain percentage (allegedly as much as 40 percent) of the next transfer. Čabraja will sign a three-year contract.

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[King Cosell]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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3 seasons playing regular at Gorica, they finished 5th, 6th & 5th.

[Since452]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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Know absolutely nothing about him but we're definitely winning the league.

[flash]

https://youtu.be/FYn-V6dtk1E

Takes a mean corner which is something we lack

[Heisenberg]

Another few weeks for a work permit I’d guess? Hopefully ready for the league.

[GloryGlory]

Dinamo got rid of another player on Monday. Marijan Čabraja, the left back, is traveling to Scotland today where, after completing all the formalities, he will sign for Hibernian.
Čabraja came from Gorica a year and a half ago in a package with Darij Špikić, he played 10 games (eight in the HNL and two in the Cup), but last summer he fell out of Dinamo's strong competition with left backs, went on loan to Ferencvaros, while he spent the last part of the season in Olympia. At the end of his loan, he returned to Maksimir, and even though Čačić is now having problems in that position, Čabraja is not in the combinations, it was clear that he will look for a new club.
After certain talks with clubs from Poland, Hibernian appeared, which quickly reached an agreement with Dinamo about the transfer. The Blues have given the green light for Čabraja's permanent departure without compensation, so it is not a loan, and the Scots will pay Dinamo a certain percentage (allegedly as much as 40 percent) of the next transfer. Čabraja will sign a three-year contract.

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Work permit means he may not available until after the league starts?

[CapitalGreen]

Looks like the Hibs shop will need to put in a bulk order for the letter Č so we can get his name on our new tops.

[H18 SFR]

https://youtu.be/FYn-V6dtk1E

Takes a mean corner which is something we lack

Porteous should be on the end of some of those.

[Vault Boy]

Čabraja looks very promising. Hope this turns out to be true.

[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/IASucic/status/1546455487373348866?t=Aq4BarHoAhOEz4rgK377gQ&s=19


Left back from Dinamo Zagreb being linked. Apparently joining on a 3 year deal.

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Abra Abra Cabraja :rockin: 🎶🎶

Ok needs some work 😀

[Unseen work]

Rightly or wrongly it’s just so much more exciting signing foreign players you’ve never heard of that a player in league 1 in England 😅

Jokes aside he does look to have at least played at a good level and a decent amount of games.

The club are certainly trying alot of players from abroad, probably due to thinking they get better value.

Let’s hope it works out!

Also well done for getting a replacement in so quick with Doig leaving.

[matty_f]

Would be interesting to see a list of the signings since January with the reported fees alongside to get a measure of what we're spending.

[The Spaceman]

Correct. We are clearly pursuing a twin track approach here. Investing in youth and looking to bring them through the development route as well as building out the first team.

We better get used to this concept as it’s one I think we will be pursuing for a while.

It’s probably more noticeable this year (and last window) as we needed to build critical mass in the development ranks. Going forward the development team should see a number of players come up from the U18’s as well as the occasional investment like this.

Then for the first team we should see a number of players added from the dev ranks and the occasional investment from outside our own system.

It’s a smart play and one, if done correctly, should see us benefit significantly with real quality coming through the ranks, being able to afford real quality buys into the first team and sucking in more Doig like transfer fees as we go…all contributing to a virtuous cycle.

Will take time to come to fruition of course but I’m 100% behind the concept.

Where I’m at.

Our youth academy has failed to generate a good enough ROI in the past 10 years, so if we have to buy in young talent I’m all for it. Until you are Real Madrid or Liverpool, you have to speculate in order to move forward and I’m glad to see us being a bit more adventurous in the market.

Melkersen is an example - he’s clear as day got a hell of a lot of potential, I think he’s going to be massive and convinced will move on for a substantial sum in 2 years time.

[GloryGlory]

Brydon off to FC Edinburgh on loan, as part of new link up.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/fc-edinburgh-loan-to-benefit-jack-brydon

[King Cosell]

Abra Abra Cabraja :rockin: 🎶🎶

Ok needs some work 😀

I wanna reach out and grab ya!

Excellent! If he signs, tell the young 'uns. That chant is 100% happening.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Croatian guy sounds interesting.

I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he ends up being an upgrade on Doig :agree:

[Big_Franck]

https://youtu.be/FYn-V6dtk1E

Takes a mean corner which is something we lack

Cheers for that. Listening to the commentators there, it sounds like his name is pronounced Chabraya. Definitely seems to have a decent left peg.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Abra Abra Cabraja :rockin: 🎶🎶

Ok needs some work 😀

No it’s genius and already terrace ready

[04Sauzee]

Cheers for that. Listening to the commentators there, it sounds like his name is pronounced Chabraya. Definitely seems to have a decent left peg.

It does sound like that which blows my song out the water 😅

[Hibby70]

I wanna reach out and grab ya!

Excellent! If he signs, tell the young 'uns. That chant is 100% happening.

Or
He's gonna slide in and half ya.

[HoboHarry]

Or
He's gonna slide in and half ya.

:top marks:greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Or
He's gonna slide in and half ya.

🤣

[ekhibee]

https://youtu.be/FYn-V6dtk1E

Takes a mean corner which is something we lack

Yeh, good left foot inswingers, he would be a very interesting signing, looks a solid unit as well.

[Torto7]

He looks talented on the video. Do we still have that link to the Croatian agent?

[04Sauzee]

Anthony Joseph from sky now reporting

Hibs are closing in on the signing of Dinamo Zagreb left-back Marijan Cabraja.

The Croatian will travel to Edinburgh in the coming days and is expected to sign a three-year deal.

(@ScotlandSky)

[Hibbyradge]

Anthony Joseph from sky now reporting

Hibs are closing in on the signing of Dinamo Zagreb left-back Marijan Cabraja.

The Croatian will travel to Edinburgh in the coming days and is expected to sign a three-year deal.

(@ScotlandSky)

His source will be the same as ours.

[Hibernian Verse]

Might not be as long to wait on his work permit as the Croatian First Division is 20th in the 50 top leagues which I believe forms part of the process.

[04Sauzee]

His source will be the same as ours.

Patrick McPartlin running with the story now.

[JimBHibees]

Might not be as long to wait on his work permit as the Croatian First Division is 20th in the 50 top leagues which I believe forms part of the process.

Surely the Portuguese league would also be in top 50

[CapitalGreen]

Surely the Portuguese league would also be in top 50

It would but as Hibernian Voice said in his post, the league the player is coming from only forms part of the process.

[GloryGlory]

Patrick McPartlin running with the story now.

Just the same story being recycled - not any additional information from a different source.

[JimBHibees]

It would but as Hibernian Voice said in his post, the league the player is coming from only forms part of the process.

Fair enough so the fact he has played many top league games will be an important part also unlike some of our other players.

[JimBHibees]

Just the same story being recycled - not any additional information from a different source.

He is much closer to the club though and has shot down previous stories if not accurate

[Cocaine&Caviar]

At the moment, looking like:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Delfierre
CB: Hanlon, Rocky
LB: Cabraja, Stevenson

CM: Newell, Doyle-Hayes
CM: Kenneh, Campbell
CM: Magennis, Henderson

RW: Tavares, Bojang
LW: McGeady, Mitchell
CF: Melkersen, Youan, Doidge, Nisbet

[Hibernian Verse]

Surely the Portuguese league would also be in top 50

It would, but Jair & Bojang hadn't played any top flight games and the Portuguese second division isn't in the Top 50.

Edit: as you've said above!

[04Sauzee]

Just the same story being recycled - not any additional information from a different source.

He's not really quoting other sources though, he's writing that story as though it's more or less a done deal.

[CapitalGreen]

Fair enough so the fact he has played many top league games will be an important part also unlike some of our other players.

Yeah, it’s a points based system with lots of different criteria.

Page 633 onwards explains it in detail here -> https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2022/04/07/c0d0f725-3fe3-4470-ba6c-ed83c7aa75fe/PL_Handbook_2021_22_DIGITAL_07-04-22.pdf

As an aside, for the purpose of his work permit application, I think it will actually be based on the Slovenian league and not the Croatian league as that is where he last played a match while on loan.

[Winston Ingram]

Nicky Cadden has signed for Barnsley

https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2022/july/nicky-cadden-joins-reds/

[Tambo]

He likes to get forward and has a good delivery from that video.

Some more pace in the team will be good.

Now for confirmation and the work permit 😁

[scoopyboy]

At the moment, looking like:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Delfierre
CB: Hanlon, Rocky
LB: Cabraja, Stevenson

CM: Newell, Doyle-Hayes
CM: Kenneh, Campbell
CM: Magennis, Henderson

RW: Tavares, Bojang
LW: McGeady, Mitchell
CF: Melkersen, Youan, Doidge, Nisbet

Kyle McLelland likely to be there or thereabouts

[j'adorehibs]

Kyle McLelland likely to be there or thereabouts

he looked excellent on Saturday albeit against poor opposition

[flash]

Kyle McLelland likely to be there or thereabouts

Looked miles ahead of Rocky.

[scoopyboy]

Looked miles ahead of Rocky.

Agreed Flash, couldn't help think the fans were trying to be extra nice to Rocky after recent events.

However the ball is still liable to go in any direction as he sclaffs the ball.

I would love to see him succeed but McLelland for me is ahead of him already.

[Ringothedog]

Agreed Flash, couldn't help think the fans were trying to be extra nice to Rocky after recent events.

However the ball is still liable to go in any direction as he sclaffs the ball.

I would love to see him succeed but McLelland for me is ahead of him already.

I actually thought his distribution was decent but the distribution by Porteous was shocking

[oneone73]

Kyle McLelland likely to be there or thereabouts

Tait might be in with a shout too

[neil7908]

At the moment, looking like:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Delfierre
CB: Hanlon, Rocky
LB: Cabraja, Stevenson

CM: Newell, Doyle-Hayes
CM: Kenneh, Campbell
CM: Magennis, Henderson

RW: Tavares, Bojang
LW: McGeady, Mitchell
CF: Melkersen, Youan, Doidge, Nisbet

As others have said, add McLelland and that looks a decent squad. If we can get Nisbet and Magennis back to full fitness (big if) then I think we are well stocked. But I really worry about Magennis and CB looks a bit light.

So maybe another attacking midfielder, CB and possibly a winger and we are good?

[Unseen work]

I actually thought his distribution was decent but the distribution by Porteous was shocking

This is a bit of a bug bear of mine with Porteous.

He’s undoubtedly good on the ball but he tries to do too much with it at times or get more involved than he needs to.

I thought first half we were good playing the ball forward quick and accurate, second half it wasn’t as good and he was partly responsible for playing chipped passes into newells chest, trying very difficult passes into the striker which were overhit.

I get it happens though especially when you’re 5-0 up and want to try a bit more!

[IAmLee]

This is a bit of a bug bear of mine with Porteous.

He’s undoubtedly good on the ball but he tries to do too much with it at times or get more involved than he needs to.

I thought first half we were good playing the ball forward quick and accurate, second half it wasn’t as good and he was partly responsible for playing chipped passes into newells chest, trying very difficult passes into the striker which were overhit.

I get it happens though especially when you’re 5-0 up and want to try a bit more!

I thought exactly the same, he was almost bordering on showing off and as you said it rarely came off for him. I agree though, he was probably a bit bored & we were cruising.

[B.H.F.C]

This is a bit of a bug bear of mine with Porteous.

He’s undoubtedly good on the ball but he tries to do too much with it at times or get more involved than he needs to.

I thought first half we were good playing the ball forward quick and accurate, second half it wasn’t as good and he was partly responsible for playing chipped passes into newells chest, trying very difficult passes into the striker which were overhit.

I get it happens though especially when you’re 5-0 up and want to try a bit more!

Three of the five goals started from Porteous stepping out and playing forward though. Pass to JDH, pass to Henderson. And the other one the Clyde defender didn’t deal with very well. He did give the ball away a bit second half though, thought we were like that as a team to be fair.

[JimBHibees]

I actually thought his distribution was decent but the distribution by Porteous was shocking

Don't think Porteous distribution was anywhere near shocking.

[Since452]

The players can try what they want when they're 5-0 up at half time. Don't mind that at all. Earned it.

[Hiber-nation]

Don't think Porteous distribution was anywhere near shocking.

He still does my head in at times but he did really well in the first half driving us forward. Rocky was getting applauded for a simple 5 yard pass that I could have made. But probably understandable after all the nonsense. Hope McClelland starts tomorrow, really looked the part.

[JimBHibees]

He still does my head in at times but he did really well in the first half driving us forward. Rocky was getting applauded for a simple 5 yard pass that I could have made. But probably understandable after all the nonsense. Hope McClelland starts tomorrow, really looked the part.

Agree about McLelland looked good but will be I am assuming a much more direct test against Falkirk. Pretty sure he played there last season on loan. Will get more of an idea how good he can be after tomorrow

[SlickShoes]

Agreed Flash, couldn't help think the fans were trying to be extra nice to Rocky after recent events.

However the ball is still liable to go in any direction as he sclaffs the ball.

I would love to see him succeed but McLelland for me is ahead of him already.

What exactly did he do wrong on Saturday?

[BILLYHIBS]

Don't think Porteous distribution was anywhere near shocking.

Show boating

[jacomo]

The players can try what they want when they're 5-0 up at half time. Don't mind that at all. Earned it.


:agree:

[CallumLaidlaw]

What exactly did he do wrong on Saturday?

He played one pass which went out of play, but I actually thought Cadden should’ve been ready to run on to it rather than want it at his feet. Apart from that he was pretty faultless and was particularly good in the air.


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[04Sauzee]

What exactly did he do wrong on Saturday?

One small sclaf in the first few minutes after that nothing, won everything in the air. Can't really think of anything??

[SlickShoes]

He played one pass which went out of play, but I actually thought Cadden should’ve been ready to run on to it rather than want it at his feet. Apart from that he was pretty faultless and was particularly good in the air.


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Yep, I thought he done well enough, looked solid, porteous misplaced more passes and lost the ball more. I am not saying Rocky is better than Porto but some people are just seeing what they want to see as both players(rocky and McLelland) were completely fine in each half of the game.

[Ringothedog]

Don't think Porteous distribution was anywhere near shocking.

Well there you go, you have your opinion I have mine. Showboating or trying “world cup” balls is unprofessional at best. He gave the ball away at least 4 times needlessly in the second half. I understand trying things out when you are winning comfortably but if i wanted to watch aimless misplaced passes I would watch our games from last season on Hibs TV

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Mirijan Cabraja? Who is he? Replacement for Doig





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[ekhibee]

I have to say I'm impressed with what we've brought in so far, I know it sounds greedy but I'm not sure if I trust Newell and Doyle Hayes in terms of consistency, so another CM for me, but that's purely my opinion.

[cameronw-hfc]

Well there you go, you have your opinion I have mine. Showboating or trying “world cup” balls is unprofessional at best. He gave the ball away at least 4 times needlessly in the second half. I understand trying things out when you are winning comfortably but if i wanted to watch aimless misplaced passes I would watch our games from last season on Hibs TV


Not trying to be rude here, but if you can't try more difficult passes when 5-0 vs a lower league team, when can you? Portos distribution is good, sometimes he tries too much, but id much rather a player try too hard than not enough.

He doesn't try "world cup passes" to be a billy big baws, it's because he genuinely thinks he can play the pass. Yeah they might not come out for him, but if he's trying it vs Rangers at 0-0 then maybe I see the issue, moaning at him trying a few difficult passes when 5-0 up is a bit mental tho

[JimBHibees]

Mirijan Cabraja? Who is he? Replacement for Doig





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Sounds like it.

[erin go bragh]

Well there you go, you have your opinion I have mine. Showboating or trying “world cup” balls is unprofessional at best. He gave the ball away at least 4 times needlessly in the second half. I understand trying things out when you are winning comfortably but if i wanted to watch aimless misplaced passes I would watch our games from last season on Hibs TV

First competitive of the season and up five nil . Surely that’s the time to try that above that clearly irks you . Chill out man 😊

[Hibbyradge]

What exactly did he do wrong on Saturday?

Nothing that I saw although I missed the first 3 minutes!

[JimBHibees]

Well there you go, you have your opinion I have mine. Showboating or trying “world cup” balls is unprofessional at best. He gave the ball away at least 4 times needlessly in the second half. I understand trying things out when you are winning comfortably but if i wanted to watch aimless misplaced passes I would watch our games from last season on Hibs TV

There were a few passes which weren't the best but loads of others which were good. Nowhere near shocking.

[Hibbyradge]

Well there you go, you have your opinion I have mine. Showboating or trying “world cup” balls is unprofessional at best. He gave the ball away at least 4 times needlessly in the second half. I understand trying things out when you are winning comfortably but if i wanted to watch aimless misplaced passes I would watch our games from last season on Hibs TV

And if he was following the game plan?

[cameronw-hfc]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

Joke! Clearly one of the best in the league winning group.

[Hibee Mac]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure bigSounds odd, surely if Rangers are signing him then he's probably ahead of those two, you would assume?...

I've not seen much/any of that team so can't really judge to be fair

[Jonnyboy]

One small sclaf in the first few minutes after that nothing, won everything in the air. Can't really think of anything??

Same here

[Tambo]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

That's disappointing as he seemed to be progressing well.

I did see the other day that Josh McPake was linked with another loan move.

[HIBS NUTS]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

Every under 18 game that i’ve seen, Connor Young looks much closer to the first team. than any of the others .
Very strange.!

[Malthibby]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

Shame if true, I know we can't keep everyone but this guy gets positive press anytime I've seen him mentioned.

[cameronw-hfc]

Shame if true, I know we can't keep everyone but this guy gets positive press anytime I've seen him mentioned.

Yeah, although he's a boyhood Hibby so if he's available in the future always a chance.

Expected to see one of the 3 move as someones development would end up stalled, good times though for the youth team for us to have 3 strikers that are closing in on the first team. All 3 look top prospects

From what I've seen Conor is a bit more physical, maybe a bit more traditional, Ethan is a tall enough lad but quite skinny and very good technically, and Josh seems to be a smaller but much quicker and sharper.

[HIBS NUTS]

Sounds odd, surely if Rangers are signing him then he's probably ahead of those two, you would assume?...

I've not seen much/any of that team so can't really judge to be fair

He’s bigger and stronger than the other too, i’m actually quite shocked.

[04Sauzee]

Connor Young set to sign for Rangers. Hibs view Laidlaw and O'Connor as closer to the first team so won't stand in his way after rangers submitted a 5 figure big

Always thought he was though of as one of the better ones. Can't understand a 5 figure fee at all and would hope there is a decent sell on fee attached.

[HendoDelivered]

Sheep to sign a winger/foward from Benfica B as well (Luis Duk)

[AugustaHibs]

Sheep to sign a winger/foward from Benfica B as well (Luis Duk)

That’s strange, usually sheep they go for.

[Bridge hibs]

That’s strange, usually sheep they go for.Sheep, Duk and RAMires, theres a pattern emerging here 😁

[Northernhibee]

Sheep to sign a winger/foward from Benfica B as well (Luis Duk)

Related to Peter Crouch.

[scoopyboy]

What exactly did he do wrong on Saturday?

He sclaffed a couple.

He attacked the ball fine but when the ball goes over him and he's running back towards his own goal he looks uncomfortable.

I want him to succeed but have my doubts, would love to be wrong.