Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[Callum_62]

Steven Fletcher still without a club I see

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[JamesHFC]

John Marquis? Mon the 6 footers

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

👀

[ahibby]

Of course, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being disappointed that a good eligible player won’t be playing for your nation. It’s absolutely wrong to wrong to abuse that player for choosing not to play for your nation.

Choose not to play for his nation.

[Unseen work]

Steven Fletcher still without a club I see

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

Based on what I’ve seen stoke fans say on Twitter (shouldn’t count for much I know) I’d be hesitant on signing him.

Legs completely gone and injury prone by the sounds of it.

Think Johnson will want a complete all rounder and pacey centre forward though.

[SMAXXA]

Based on what I’ve seen stoke fans say on Twitter (shouldn’t count for much I know) I’d be hesitant on signing him.

Legs completely gone and injury prone by the sounds of it.

Think Johnson will want a complete all rounder and pacey centre forward though.

He does and has one lined up I’d expect to be announced tomorrow or over the wkend. As usual with this stuff takes time especially when moving country’s

[Mr. Wonderful]

Louis Mafouta

[Unseen work]

He does and has one lined up I’d expect to be announced tomorrow or over the wkend. As usual with this stuff takes time especially when moving country’s

You know a name mate?

[Hibstrooper]

Louis Mafouta

This is what the transfer thread should be all about. I’ve enjoyed looking up each and every one of these random names that have been thrown into the mix tonight, even if some are just wild guesses.

This Louis Mafouta boy looks good, hope it’s him!

[bingo70]

This is what the transfer thread should be all about. I’ve enjoyed looking up each and every one of these random names that have been thrown into the mix tonight, even if some are just wild guesses.

This Louis Mafouta boy looks good, hope it’s him!

Couldn’t agree more, it’s magic.

Looks like Mafouta was excellent for Neuchatel Xamax but not don’t much at Metz. Suppose the club would need tk dig a bit deeper to see why that is but from watching the highlights on YouTube, he appears to be a big quick guy with a physical presence.

[ChilliEater]

Swedish striker Claus-Inmar Loandeil

[Iain G]

Swedish striker Claus-Inmar Loandeil

Sponsored by Axa Dental?

[JammyDoidger]

John Marquis? Mon the 6 footers

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

Sounds French. Good proven goalscorer too.

[OldEast]

that you reggie..🤔

cj..🤔

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[ChilliEater]

Sponsored by Axa Dental?

😁

[KanyeWestLower]

Now I am concerned. Kenneh is a long way from the finished item.

You’d hope not he’s only 19 ffs.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[sean04]

Elie youan

[BT58]

Louis Mafouta

When i read this i thought it was an attempt at a pun
Lose ma foot, a bit of a slip on my part....
B

[greenpaper55]

Icelandic winger i hear, Crossitoverson

[flash]

Interesting comments in the Scotsman with Lee Johnson being very complimentary about the work being done by Ian Gordon.

Makes it pretty clear that Johnson has final say on who we sign based on players sourced by the recruitment team.

I think we all have had concerns about the owner's son taking such an important role so it's good to hear an experienced manager like LJ back him up.

[bingo70]

Interesting comments in the Scotsman with Lee Johnson being very complimentary about the work being done by Ian Gordon.

Makes it pretty clear that Johnson has final say on who we sign based on players sourced by the recruitment team.

I think we all have had concerns about the owner's son taking such an important role so it's good to hear an experienced manager like LJ back him up.

I’m sure that’ll put an end to all the criticism then 😉

[flash]

I’m sure that’ll put an end to all the criticism then 😉

Yeah i know it won't but seeing as I am like you and love all these left field signings I am backing him anyway.

[Since452]

Interesting comments in the Scotsman with Lee Johnson being very complimentary about the work being done by Ian Gordon.

Makes it pretty clear that Johnson has final say on who we sign based on players sourced by the recruitment team.

I think we all have had concerns about the owner's son taking such an important role so it's good to hear an experienced manager like LJ back him up.

Just read that article. I really like this guy.

[BoomtownHibees]

Yeah i know it won't but seeing as I am like you and love all these left field signings I am backing him anyway.

Think Mcgeady will play more central rather than on the left

[Greenworld]

Just read that article. I really like this guy.Can you copy and paste it here reached my limit of free articles

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk

[flash]

Think Mcgeady will play more central rather than on the left

:taxi:taxi

[flash]

Can you copy and paste it here reached my limit of free articles

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk

I would but so have I now.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-manager-lee-johnson-opens-up-on-sas-ian-gordon-style-of-play-and-calling-hearts-boss-curly-toe-3744840

[BoomtownHibees]

:taxi:taxi

👀

[A Hi-Bee]

I hear we are in for a speedy Spanish left winger, F-uckedif Aknow
:greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

Can you copy and paste it here reached my limit of free articles

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk

It is obvious that the Hibs manager is a man in demand.

Occasionally, he rewards the silent appeals with a quick glance but, for the majority of the interview, he resists the interruption.

On one level that seems easy as the Hibs boss, who describes his management style as “warm but demanding”, is a comfortable conversationalist, and he enjoys meeting people, while his enthusiasm for the job he has taken on spills out as he outlines plans and expectations.

But, with so much work ongoing behind the scenes, it is clear that time is precious and, while happy to chat, right now, Johnson is itching to check in with those trying to reach him and to press on with the task of strengthening his squad before the new season gets underway.

The players are already back in training, those he inherited, some he has already recruited and one or two he would rather move on.

That’s why the calls and texts have such a pull.

“It’s not like it’s my mum calling,” he explains when we finally wrap up the chat and he quickly scrolls through the call list and unopened messages. “So, let’s hope I’ve not just missed out on a centre-half! There’s 16 Whatsapps, and half a dozen missed calls just since we sat down.”

They are from the likes of Hibs’ Head of Recruitment, Ian Gordon, from agents and others helping him shape his squad. When he is not speaking to them, he is trawling through data – he has designed his own program to suss out a player’s football IQ, smiling as he describes it as “genius, even if I do say so myself” – and hours of footage, following up on tips or trying to unearth his own gems. He has a clear vision of how he sees his team playing next season and during a final interview that spanned more than six hours, the former Sunderland boss shared that with Hibs owner Ron Gordon and the rest of the recruitment committee.

Using statistics compiled from past seasons and individual performances, he knows what he is looking for but finding the type of players he wants in key positions is not straightforward. There is competition and high price tags and that means that there will be young players signed up and promoted from within, more foreign players, who offer greater value for money, as well as some shrewd domestic acquisitions, although, he says, the gamble there is that they may fear the likes of Celtic and Rangers more and, out to win, he doesn’t want that inferiority complex. BUt, what is true is that one or two will be “educated punts”. Others, he says, must be more sure-fire.

He is, however, enjoying working on recruitment with a man who has been misunderstood at best, and vilified at worst, according to the manager.

[Sir David Gray]

“I’ll be honest with you Ian is very, very good. I have maybe been surprised how good he is compared to the external perception. He works his nuts off, that's the first thing. He is really aligned with the style of player we need.” And while he is still fairly new to the role, “in 5-10 years, he could be one of the best in the business.

“It is difficult for him because of who he is and I understand because I had that when I played for my dad.”

Johnson played under dad Gary at Watford, Yeovil and Bristol City. And, at Ashton Gate, he played and managed under the stewardship of owner Stephen Lansdown and his son, and current chairman, Jon.

“The nepotism shout is really difficult because you are always having to prove yourself. But it’s unfair. Every tie we don’t win it will be resurrected but if we do win then it looks like it’s me. But, if you don’t have the relationship and communication from top to bottom then things slide really quickly and it is horrible.”

When we first caught up at his big unveiling, Johnson was open and relaxed, revealing different facets of a fun but enquiring personality but with the fixtures out, the new season a fast-approaching reality and plenty of graft still to be done, he has turned the dial slightly and is, understandably, in business mode.

Having beaten off the challenge of guys like Jon Dahl Tomasson to get the job, there is no doubting his drive and desire to make a success of things at Hibs and, with his infectious energy and meticulous approach, it is not difficult to see why he was given the opportunity.

Driven but far from one-dimensional, in May, conversation flowed effortlessly from his penchant for a bit of Robbie Williams on karaoke, to his love of Scottish banter, and history, as well as football. That side to him is still evident but, with so many plates spinning and calls incoming, while topics up for discussion are varied, they always, understandably, veer back to how he makes this job work.

Whether that is nicking some lines from Ted Lasso (“To be your mentor I’ve got to be your tormentor”) a programme he loves, or his desire to explore the history that is now on his doorstep, from house-hunting so he can accommodate the many people already expressing a desire to visit him in the Scottish capital, including his pal, comedian Mark Watson, to dealing with mental health, which he knows is no laughing matter, he is passionate about it all.

Get him talking about his vision for the club, the identity, methodology, and philosophy (“My dad keeps telling me to stop saying philosophy because it sounds crap”) and the 40-year-old will go into fascinating detail about tactics, individual players, pace, a solid defensive foundation, a can do attitude, and other key attributes but what it all adds up to is that his team will go for it. “It’s not a case of risk it and blitz it or of being steady Eddies. It has to be something in between.”

But the fans have to buy into it, too. “It might be a dodgy 1-0 where we have put our bodies on the line or it might be an expansive 4-0 where we have been brilliant. I want us to be aggressive with pressure but removing the fear from decision-making is key. Hopefully, our fans will recognise that and, when I spoke in my press conference about fans becoming part of the performance, that’s the sort of thing I mean.”

And, winning two, losing one, is, he states, more profitable than an unbeaten run that includes three draws. It is usually also more exciting and entertaining.

Man-management is important - which is where Ted Lasso proves more than light-entertainment - but so too is a certain ruthlessness.

“You have to find the best way to communicate with them all. Which means you have to be a bit of a chameleon but you can’t be disingenuous.

“It is when there are attitude errors then that’s when I can get quite nasty, that’s when I show my teeth.

“I'm a warm personality but the minute you sabotage performance, I'm coming for you, no matter who it is, whether that's a player, the owner, tea lady, whoever.”

And, while sentiment does come into his thinking when it comes to team selection, it is simply a tool to focus the mind.

“Picking the team is easy. I always pick the team like my little girls’ life depends on it and that allows me to shut out all the crap. So, instead of listening to agents, or fans, or whoever, I sit down, put a bit of Paolo Nutini on and decide what I’m going with”.

A photo of him and daughter Izzy is a reminder of the recent family holiday but, unwilling to uproot her or disrupt her education, especially as management jobs offer no promise of longevity, she and his wife Nicola have remained down south while he is in Edinburgh on his own and football is all consuming.

He recognises the dangers of that.

“I don’t think I will ever nail the work-life balance. But there are things that enable me to take my mind off football. That is where Edinburgh could be good for me.

“I do like history and I will go on all the tours, even the fun ones, like the dungeons and ghost tours. And, the Fringe, I really like. My mate Mark Watson is a comedian and he will come up and stay with me while he is working at the Fringe.

“Edinburgh is the kind of city people want to visit so I have a list of family and friends who want to come up and that is important to break the functionality.

“I also like golf but it has been difficult to find the time but it might be easier up here because there are not so many games and you don’t spend as much time traveling.”

That was one of the reasons he wanted to manage in Scotland, claiming his results have always tended to benefit from time to work with players during the week, especially the young players, who he says often have minds like goldfish and require repetition.

He is also on the hunt for a place to disappear when the team loses.

“Graham Taylor was the one who said: ‘Booze when you lose, stay in when you win’. So, I need to find a dark, dingy boozer where I can sit and have a Jack D and coke. Somewhere no-one cares. I’m not a big drinker but there are such emotional highs and lows and after a loss you can go into dark places in your mind and you need that release.”

He has sought help from more than the bottle when it comes to dealing with that, though.

“I think I'm getting better at dealing with that. I have done a lot of work with the SAS actually because it is like post-traumatic stress when you lose a game like that.

“Early in my career it would take me 48-72 hours to get out of it and that’s too long. It kills family life and means you’re not what you need to be at the training ground. But the longer you are in the job the more you learn how to front it up.”

He has worked with experts in the NHS and the Red Arrows as well as the special forces to identify how to deal with it and not just mask it.

“Ok, losing a football game is not life or death like the SAS is but the stress of the situation triggers the same chemical reaction and you have to go through the process because that is often where the genius is, because you question absolutely everything, but you have to accelerate the process.

“You question whether you want to be married, whether you want to be in football, every decision you’ve made, everything everyone has said, everything. In normal walks of life that can develop into depression and you take time to deal with it. In football you have to come out of it quickly, newborn and refreshed, and that is where the SAS have helped me.”

A former player and a manager he has had several vantage points and as the son of a manager, he knows that the families feel the impact as well.

Which is why he enlists the wives and partners and even includes them in presentations so that they can all identify ways they can help and pull together to minimise everyone’s stress and reframe the player from victim to fighter.

“Because when the player is in the right frame of mind and playing well it benefits them all because it is not a long career and you need to make the most of it. But it is difficult. I’ll be honest, me and the wife never stopped rowing for a couple of years after we had a baby and then I lost my place in the team and I didn’t get a new contract and that then caused a lot of frustration in our relationship.

“But then there are others like Craig Bellamy who pissed his missus off by sleeping in an oxygen tent because he was that focused!”

He who dares, wins, Johnson’s sacrifice now is being away from his family. They will visit but, in the meantime, finding a No 9 and a centre-half is what gives him sleepless nights, and working with his squad, who fly out to a pre-season training camp in Portugal tomorrow, fills the void.

Extremely focused, there are still moments of light and shade. When he was introduced to the media after taking the job he jokingly issued a warning to his friend and former team-mate Robbie Neilson, who is the Hearts manager and Johnson’s derby nemesis.

“Yeah, I told him I was coming for him. The media misheard me, though. They thought I’d called him Curly Top but it was Curly Toe. We used to call him that because he couldn’t kick the ball straight, he always curled it out!

“I texted him to explain and he said something like ‘looking forward to seeing you Cuban Heel’ He thought I always wore Cuban heels on a night out because of my height! Did I? I’m not saying,” he laughs. “But I am looking forward to seeing him.”

He won’t have to wait long after the fixture list scheduled the first capital derby among the second round of league fixtures, on August 6, when Hibs will play host.

Before that is friendlies, starting next week, then the Premier Sports Cup group games.

“There is still a lot of work to do but it all feels very good. The lads are engaged and I’m super-excited.”

Ted Lasso would be proud of the positivity.

[Greenworld]

Cheers for the article what a great read. The more you learn about LJ the more I'm thinking how well we have done to get him

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk

[JimBHibees]

I’m sure that’ll put an end to all the criticism then 😉

:greengrin

[flash]

Another one in today?

[hibbyfraelibby]

Steven Fletcher still without a club I see

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

He isn't coming here.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

As it stands;

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell, Stevenson

CM: Newell, Kenneh
CM: Magennis, Doyle-Hayes
CM: Henderson, Campbell

RW: J. Tavares, Hauge
LW: McGeady, Mackay
CF: Nisbet, Melkerson, Bojang, Doidge

[BT58]

Thanks for the article to read. JD and coke...thats the way to relax !!!.
B

[Highwayman]

As it stands;

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell, Stevenson

CM: Newell, Kenneh
CM: Magennis, Doyle-Hayes
CM: Henderson, Campbell

RW: J. Tavares, Hauge
LW: McGeady, Mackay
CF: Nisbet, Melkerson, Bojang, Doidge

Where’s Dylan Tait?

[Jones28]

Interesting comments in the Scotsman with Lee Johnson being very complimentary about the work being done by Ian Gordon.

Makes it pretty clear that Johnson has final say on who we sign based on players sourced by the recruitment team.

I think we all have had concerns about the owner's son taking such an important role so it's good to hear an experienced manager like LJ back him up.

Can this finally put to rest the idea that the manager doesn’t have the final say on players?

[Mikey]

Can this finally put to rest the idea that the manager doesn’t have the final say on players?

Doubt it.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Elie youan

[emoji102]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[gorgie greens]

Another one in today?

Heard a 6'2" French striker with pace so that makes me think it is Yaya Sanogo ex gooner

[04Sauzee]

Heard a 6'2" French striker with pace so that makes me think it is Yaya Sanogo ex gooner

Don't know much about Sanogo but are we sure he has pace?

[Mr. Wonderful]

Heard a 6'2" French striker with pace so that makes me think it is Yaya Sanogo ex gooner

Also suggestion is we won't have heard of him, so it's not

[Heisenberg]

Elie youan

Seems more of a winger going by where he’s been played elsewhere.

[Saint Hibee]

There has been on the PM board. Rumour of a French striker playing in Switzerland. Someone quoted LJ saying at the recent Q&A that the player will not be someone we have likely heard of but has a decent pedigree and is 6ft with pace. Most likely suggestions from the PM board were:

Yanis Lahiouel - 27 year old French striker, contract expiring. Has 92 goal contributions in 148 starts (190 apps) mostly in the Swiss second tier.

Zachary Hadji - 25 year old French striker, under contract so would require a fee. 64 goal contributions in 58 career starts (107 apps), mostly in Luxembourg but now in Swiss 2nd tier. Son of Mustapha Hadji and nephew of Youssef Hadji - Moroccan football legends.

What’s a “goal contribution”?

[Mcbizz1998]

What’s a “goal contribution”?

I guess either a goal or assist?

[Unseen work]

Elie Youan is the only one that remotely excited me of the names mentioned but probably outwith our reach.

The rest look very meh based on either goal scoring record or leagues played in

Especially if it’s our marquee signing!

Let’s wait and see thigh

[CapitalGreen]

I guess either a goal or assist?

Correct

[CapitalGreen]

Elie Youan is the only one that remotely excited me of the names mentioned but probably outwith our reach.

The rest look very meh based on either goal scoring record or leagues played in

Especially if it’s our marquee signing!

Let’s wait and see thigh

There’s only one person who is saying it’s a marquee signing and their track record isn’t exactly great.

[Stuart93]

Connor ronan and McGrath being linked with Aberdeen.

[Unseen work]

There’s only one person who is saying it’s a marquee signing and their track record isn’t exactly great.

In fairness to him he’s got a couple right recently, whether that’s luck or information.

Was adamant Johnson was getting the job well in advance and then I’m sure there was a signing he said.

Only one I seem to remember him getting wrong is signing an English striker.

[Mr. Wonderful]

In fairness to him he’s got a couple right recently, whether that’s luck or information.

Was adamant Johnson was getting the job well in advance and then I’m sure there was a signing he said.

Only one I seem to remember him getting wrong is signing an English striker.

John Marquis is English

[CropleyWasGod]

John Marquis is English

That's a bit Sad.

[sean04]

Elie Youan is the only one that remotely excited me of the names mentioned but probably outwith our reach.

The rest look very meh based on either goal scoring record or leagues played in

Especially if it’s our marquee signing!

Let’s wait and see thigh


Loan deal pal

[eastmainsmsh]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavol_%C5%A0afranko

[04Sauzee]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavol_%C5%A0afranko

Looked good for Dundee Utd wonder why he ended up where he did.

[Mr. Wonderful]

That's a bit Sad.

Don't get to choose where you're from unfortunately

[Dmas]

What’s a “goal contribution”?

Goal or assist

[Unseen work]

Loan deal pal

Are people confirming it’s him?

[Unseen work]

Striker about to be announced

[Bad Habits]

New signing teased on Instagram, labelled a new striker??

[Dmas]

Somethings coming official twitter has started

[Unseen work]

From the blurry photos it looks like Youan

[McGruber]

As it stands;

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon
LB: Doig, Mitchell, Stevenson

CM: Newell, Kenneh
CM: Magennis, Doyle-Hayes
CM: Henderson, Campbell, Tait

RW: Tavares, Cadden
LW: McGeady, Mackay
CF: Nisbet, Melkerson, Bojang, Doidge

Would say that's the current first team squad - with back up from Development side.

Short at right back and centre back, ideally a big, commanding centre half and another right sided defender that can play in the middle or right back. Would play Cadden RWB but he's no right back.

An experienced, grizzly, driving, leader type centre mid.

2 strikers - at least one experienced, powerful, big type. Hopefully sort these soon, our current 4 fowards reads injured, shown to be not ready, a gamble and not wanted.

If Johnson can get more out the players inherited, develop the young guys with potential, get a good year out McGeady and add a wee bit - this season could be very entertaining

[Groathillgrump]

Don't get to choose where you're from unfortunately

Whoosh! :greengrin

[Malthibby]

Don't get to choose where you're from unfortunately

Wee whoosh there.........:wink:

[greenginger]

That's a bit Sad.

Don’t worry Crops , I got it.

[EdinMike]

Almost confirms Doidge will be moved on, and if so wish him all the best.

[Northernhibee]

Johnson said he'd be pacey but he must be lightning if you can't take a non blurry photo of him :greengrin

[sean04]

Are people confirming it’s him?

Defo

[CapitalGreen]

Mechelen had him on loan with an option to buy. I wonder if we will have the same.

[Callum_62]

Defo looks like John Marquis

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[GloryGlory]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/%C3%A9lie-youan-signs-for-hibs

Elie Youan

[stokesmessiah]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/%C3%A9lie-youan-signs-for-hibs

No story there….!?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Youan

[stuart-farquhar]

That's a bit Sad.

Painful that one!

[BoomtownHibees]

Daily Record reporting its Elie Youan

[Unseen work]

https://youtu.be/T9qXnJrVbKw

[GloryGlory]

No story there….!?

Strange - the News page on the official site had that up as the first story - click the link and it has disappeared! maybe someone in the comms dept has jumped the gun a bit.

Someone took a screenshot before it vanished!

https://twitter.com/robertcjackson/status/1540651709546078209

[Mr. Wonderful]

Defo looks like John Marquis

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

Youan can play all over the front line, meaning we still ha r space for a striker..

[Colr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élie_Youan

[Scooter]

Defo

Confirmed

[Callum_62]

If its is Elie youhan..... Boy does have pedigree for sure

How does he compare to Aberdeen new signing?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[stokesmessiah]

Daily Record reporting its Elie Youan

Talks about him making space for our technically gifted midfield….we must have more midfielders coming in then!!?

[McD]

Judging by the video, he likes a team in green :greengrin

[Brightside]

Very good

[Craig_in_Prague]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/gallery-%C3%A9lie-youans-first-day-at-hibs

[Stuart93]

Looks like he done doesn’t first half of last season for St Gallen then was sent out on loan for the 2nd half. Wonder why.

Looks promising though

[GloryGlory]

Official site having taken a story down about Youan now has another one up.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/gallery-%C3%A9lie-youans-first-day-at-hibs

[CapitalGreen]

His record in the Swiss top flight is very good. Goal or Assist every 139 minutes for one of the poorer teams in the league.

[McD]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élie_Youan


love the Sanogo reference :greengrin

now even better with the Hearts and Cabbage references ������

[Callum_62]

Capped at 18, 19s and 20s for France

Cannie be bad

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[Colr]

Judging by the video, he likes a team in green :greengrin

He’s going to be chuffed to bits when he finds out there’s a town in the East Neuk that’s been named after him! Elie Youan, already a legend!

[Hibs90]

:dunno:

[Unseen work]

Loan with option to buy is very promising.

Seems a genuine talent and less of a punt like a Bojang (no disrespect to him intended).

Wonder if we’ll still be after a centre forward with him capable of playing anywhere across the front 3

[Libby Hibby]

Now THATS a signing 👏

[Nicho87]

I think that will spell the end of doidge now if there was any doubters.

Seems decent signing

Midfield and defence needing sorted and I think we’re ready.

[hibby rae]

Official site having taken a story down about Youan now has another one up.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/gallery-%C3%A9lie-youans-first-day-at-hibs

The last loan we had from St Gallen was class. The last permanent deal from them was gash though 😉😉

[Lago]

For me LJ certainly starting to make his mark. Looking good.

[Sir David Gray]

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere
MacIntyre
Mitchell
Brydon

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait
Hauge
Magennis
Henderson
Blaney
Aiken
Hamilton
Kenneh
Mackay
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor
Laidlaw
Youan

[MagicSwirlingShip]

When he was first mentioned here I actually thought the poster had found a player to “lead us on” 🤣

Looks a great signing

[Dmas]

Mon the cabbage!

Looks a quality signing that, what a 24hrs!

[Nicho87]

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere
MacIntyre
Mitchell
Brydon

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait
Hauge
Magennis
Henderson
Blaney
Aiken
Hamilton
Kenneh
Mackay
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor
Laidlaw
Youan

Still a bit dead wood in there for me if we’re really drilling down

Mackay - loan / exit
Hauge - loan
Tait - loan
Doidge - out

Would be my preference if it means getting couple more in

[Unseen work]

With our current squad we’re either winning the league or getting relegated, no inbetween 😅

[Smartie]

https://youtu.be/T9qXnJrVbKw

Quite a lot to like in there, whilst acknowledging that highlight reels can mislead.

[Unseen work]

Going to be bold and say he’ll be our Edsonne Edouard player.

Comes in young with loads of potential and ability, succeeds and moves on for a fortune.

[Dmas]

Still a bit dead wood in there for me if we’re really drilling down

Mackay - loan / exit
Hauge - loan
Tait - loan
Doidge - out

Would be my preference if it means getting couple more in

Those 4 are hardly dead wood

[Mcbizz1998]

Pleased with this one. When someone mentioned him earlier today I had a look and thought he would be ideal but probs out our reach.

Pace and creativity is what we have been crying out for and LJ seems to be addressing with all of his signings.

[Unseen work]

The board have got stick and whilst we don’t know how they’ll all turn out there’s some very exciting signings there for me

Marshall
McGeady
Miller
Youan

All for me look like they’ll be really good signings, albeit the latter two is based on little other than research and videos

Tavares
Kenneh

Are both really exciting however realistically could go either way due to lack of games at senior level.

Bojang…….we’ll I have no idea how that will turn out 🤣

[Mikey_1875]

Brilliant news. We’ve definitely went all out to address the lack of goals last season. Can’t wait to get started now.

[Since452]

Some amount of attacking flair in the squad now. Really looking forward to this season.

[Iain G]

He’s going to be chuffed to bits when he finds out there’s a town in the East Neuk that’s been named after him! Elie Youan, already a legend!

Where are the exotic foreign signings we were promised? Not happy with just signing guys called Euan and Kenny

[Nicho87]

Those 4 are hardly dead wood

Maybe wrong choice of words

However I don’t think those players will play 10 games between them in the first team.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Interestingly St Gallen decided to keep him instead of Flo and they would've played together.

Also will have played against Porteous and maybe even Campbell for France u19s

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[heretoday]

Still a bit dead wood in there for me if we’re really drilling down

Mackay - loan / exit
Hauge - loan
Tait - loan
Doidge - out

Would be my preference if it means getting couple more in
Looks like they listened. Doidge can go.

[SideBurns]

Quite a lot to like in there, whilst acknowledging that highlight reels can mislead.

What you can take from the reel is that he seems to be two-footed and pretty good in the air.

[Unseen work]

When you look at players in/out

Marshall - Macey
Miller - Clarke
Nonah -
McGeady - Jasper
Tavares - Wright
Bojang - Scott
Youan - Doidge (if it’s true he’s leaving)

You’d imagine the new signed players will at least have more of an impact than those out did last season, Clarke is the only one that really contributed and showed he’s a starter. Based on how we finished last season we look to be stronger.

Obviously a lot of the incoming players are unknown quantities though.

[McGruber]

If Doidge does go I'd like to see one brought in that is specifically a big hold up target man. The forwards we are bringing in sound exciting and look quick and interchangeable. We won't get to play that way all the time and sometimes it needs mixed up, especially the Scottish leagues. If we need to go more direct a fit Doidge or like replacement would be good.

[Torto7]

He's not an out and out striker from the highlights. More Boyle like. Rapid, decent touch and makes a lot of runs in behind. The team looks like it will be fast next year. McGeady playmaking with Tavares and Youan moving off Melkerson could be rather tasty. :agree:

[Torto7]

If Doidge does go I'd like to see one brought in that is specifically a big hold up target man. The forwards we are bringing in sound exciting and look quick and interchangeable. We won't get to play that way all the time and sometimes it needs mixed up, especially the Scottish leagues. If we need to go more direct a fit Doidge or like replacement would be good.

Agreed there's room for a different type when playing the St J's, Livvies of the world. I've not seen Fletcher for years but his skillset would be perfect.

[yerauldda]

A lot of competition now from midfield to front. Think we need 1/2 more defenders and that’ll be us barring Doig/Porteous leaving.

I know Johnson said he’s not big on formations but really interested to see what system he will play with this team. 4-4-2 is unfashionable now but seems the most natural system now with the players we have.

[Dalianwanda]

If Doidge does go I'd like to see one brought in that is specifically a big hold up target man. The forwards we are bringing in sound exciting and look quick and interchangeable. We won't get to play that way all the time and sometimes it needs mixed up, especially the Scottish leagues. If we need to go more direct a fit Doidge or like replacement would be good.

Although not a target man i was about to say Elie looks pretty big standing beside the manager...Then had a look at wiki & hes only 5'11!!! LJ must be tiny (or just very very far away)

[Nicho87]

Fletcher on a years deal would be lovely.

Just the type we need imo.

[hibee1875]

If Doidge does go I'd like to see one brought in that is specifically a big hold up target man. The forwards we are bringing in sound exciting and look quick and interchangeable. We won't get to play that way all the time and sometimes it needs mixed up, especially the Scottish leagues. If we need to go more direct a fit Doidge or like replacement would be good.

Did rangers or Celtic play with a target man last season?

Do teams not sit in against them?

[Torto7]

Did rangers or Celtic play with a target man last season?

Do teams not sit in against them?

The big Greek boy was that for them.

[Scouse Hibee]

Another loan following a one year deal, we’re a team with real longevity.

[Torto7]

Another loan following a one year deal, we’re a team with real longevity.

With a right to buy. I don't see the downside in this as long as Hibs have done their homework and it doesn't become Clark like. Try before you buy essentially.

[Mcbizz1998]

Another loan following a one year deal, we’re a team with real longevity.

Cheer up - option to buy [emoji106]

[Callum_62]

Another loan following a one year deal, we’re a team with real longevity.Who else do we have on loan?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[McGruber]

Did rangers or Celtic play with a target man last season?

Do teams not sit in against them?

I wouldn't suggest we would be playing with a target man, just having one as an option/to suit certain opponents or change it up off the bench on the occasions we might be behind or such like.

But yes, Rangers had Roofe in the squad and Celtic the Greek forward. They weren't starters but used.

[Steve20]

A lot of competition now from midfield to front. Think we need 1/2 more defenders and that’ll be us barring Doig/Porteous leaving.

I know Johnson said he’s not big on formations but really interested to see what system he will play with this team. 4-4-2 is unfashionable now but seems the most natural system now with the players we have.

We still need another midfielder imo. I know they’ve signed recent contract extensions but Newell and JDH aren’t good enough.

Centre half and another midfielder and that’ll be us. Keep Doidge too.

[Mcbizz1998]

We still need another midfielder imo. I know they’ve signed recent contract extensions but Newell and JDH aren’t good enough.

Centre half and another midfielder and that’ll be us. Keep Doidge too.

I think Newell is if he is played beside some decent players. Magennis fit would do him a world of good.

[GloryGlory]

Who else do we have on loan?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

Momadou Bojang.

Any word yet on his work permit?

[Northernhibee]

Cheer up - option to buy [emoji106]

As long as these deals aren't from clubs within this country and as such end up being unavailable for certain games, it's a brilliant deal to get. If they're not good enough, we don't sign them. If they are then they're a known quantity and we can budget to spend the agreed transfer fee.

Best of all worlds.

[Berwickhibby]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

[Mcbizz1998]

I would 100% keep Doidge as an option.

[Northernhibee]

I would 100% keep Doidge as an option.

34 goals in 108 appearances, considering he started off slowly and has been recovering from a horrendous injury that takes its sweet time to fully heal that's pretty good. Completely agree with you.

[SteveHFC]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

Could be a decent back-up.

[500miles]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

Has he ever chucked a plastic tumbler outside a pub or anything vicious like that?

[zitelli62]

Has he ever chucked a plastic tumbler outside a pub or anything vicious like that?

Does a stint in barlinnie for violence count.

[04Sauzee]

Conor McCarthy signs for Barnsley

[NAE NOOKIE]

We still need another midfielder imo. I know they’ve signed recent contract extensions but Newell and JDH aren’t good enough.

Centre half and another midfielder and that’ll be us. Keep Doidge too.

I wouldn't agree about Newell, there's a good player in there and in a refreshed team we could see the best of him, of all our midfield last season at least he was prepared to put in a tackle, sometimes getting it wrong I admit, but he does have talent on the ball and if he was backed up by a defensive midfielder who can win the ball and actually pass it accurately ( Kenneh? ) then perhaps he could play further up the pitch and be far more effective .... he can't shoot for toffee mind :greengrin

[Souter96Mac]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

Would make a ok back up option I think

[Smartie]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

In strictly footballing terms… I think he’d be a good signing. A bit of rehabilitation following a poor spell but he was a valued part of Scotland squads fairly recently, it shouldn’t take too much to get him back there.

Over the course of a summer where we’ve had to discuss the pros and cons of appointing /signing characters with a bit of off field baggage, we should probably consider doing likewise with Gallagher.

[degenerated]

Has he ever chucked a plastic tumbler outside a pub or anything vicious like that?Nah, but he did get 3 years for leathering someone with a baseball bat.

[Libby Hibby]

Has he ever chucked a plastic tumbler outside a pub or anything vicious like that?

It might be worth googling him before posting that…

[Wilson]

Nah, but he did get 3 years for leathering someone with a baseball bat.

That's how you do it. Porto will learn a bit from him.

[Percy Vere]

Another loan following a one year deal, we’re a team with real longevity.

Away and boil yer heid
We need fixed this season
And we build from there

[Since452]

Has he ever chucked a plastic tumbler outside a pub or anything vicious like that?

Emm......

[cabbageandribs1875]

i see heartz have signed that cochrane from Brighton on a 3 year deal

undisclosed fee and subject to international clearance

[Vault Boy]

i see heartz have signed that cochrane from Brighton on a 3 year deal

undisclosed fee and subject to international clearance

That’s a good capture for them.

[Paul1642]

Another loan following a one year deal, we’re a team with real longevity.

Sign young players - “ we need first team players now”

Sign a first team player for this season- “where’s the longevity”

[500miles]

Nah, but he did get 3 years for leathering someone with a baseball bat.

25974

[King Cosell]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

Would they sell him to us? Yes, but it wouldn't be the same deal St Mirren are getting.

[Berwickhibby]

Would they sell him to us? Yes, but it wouldn't be the same deal St Mirren are getting.

I have no idea…. Just wondered if it would be an acceptable signing

[Scouse Hibee]

Away and boil yer heid
We need fixed this season
And we build from there

Thanks for your reasoned response 🤡

[Sioux]

If Doidge does go I'd like to see one brought in that is specifically a big hold up target man. The forwards we are bringing in sound exciting and look quick and interchangeable. We won't get to play that way all the time and sometimes it needs mixed up, especially the Scottish leagues. If we need to go more direct a fit Doidge or like replacement would be good.

Whatever 'a big hold up target man' is these days, if a team is a playing with a front three, with a centre that's not exactly mobile, its easy for defenders to cut supply to the side players via that route. Doidge wouldn't fit the role, or would be at best nuisance value. No point in replacing like with like.

[McGruber]

Whatever 'a big hold up target man' is these days, if a team is a playing with a front three, with a centre that's not exactly mobile, its easy for defenders to cut supply to the side players via that route. Doidge wouldn't fit the role, or would be at best nuisance value. No point in replacing like with like.

It's a big unit, 6ft plus, that is strong enough to play back to goal, hold it up and be an aerial threat at cross balls and set plays. Preferably bald with facial scars. Someone to give us a physical presence when we need it up front.

I don't think the role of a target man has been negated by easy tactics however wouldn't play said striker centre of a 3 anyway - though could ideally find one with a bit of pace to go with the bulk.

You can't have your chosen formation if it is a front 3 and play it all the time, circumstances/opponents will merit a differnt approach from time to time. If you can't change your favoured formation you'll struggle - see Maloney sitting on the dole.

Some derby matches descend into battles for instance - still haven't forgotten our nimble forwards being bullied at Tynie - or Hanlon getting rag dolled by Simms strength.

I take your point about the front 3 but for me there's always room in the squad for the big fella up top

[BH1875]

Sorry if this has been covered already but, Does anyone think Tom rogic would be realistic for us? Think he would be perfect for us in midfield? Would wages be the deal breaker? I would break the bank for him and would be a bit of a statement!

[cameronw-hfc]

Sorry if this has been covered already but, Does anyone think Tom rogic would be realistic for us? Think he would be perfect for us in midfield? Would wages be the deal breaker? I would break the bank for him and would be a bit of a statement!


Nah not a hope in hell. Will go abroad and get a huge wage or get an English champ club that will pay 3x what we can.

Add in the fact I don't think he'd even come if we could match the money, bit of a nonstarter.

[Since90+2]

Sorry if this has been covered already but, Does anyone think Tom rogic would be realistic for us? Think he would be perfect for us in midfield? Would wages be the deal breaker? I would break the bank for him and would be a bit of a statement!

He had another year on his deal at Celtic and they agreed to let him leave as he wanted a new challenge, if he wanted to stay in Scotland he'd have just stayed at Celtic.

[JohnM1875]

He had another year on his deal at Celtic and they agreed to let him leave as he wanted a new challenge, if he wanted to stay in Scotland he'd have just stayed at Celtic.

Doesn't that line get used all the time though? 'wants a new challenege'. No way he's moving to a bigger team than Celtic in my opinion. But I do agree and he won't end up at Hibs haha.

Also notice Bitton has been linked with Lenny's team, reckon he would be a good signing as well.

[cameronw-hfc]

Doesn't that line get used all the time though? 'wants a new challenege'. No way he's moving to a bigger team than Celtic in my opinion. But I do agree and he won't end up at Hibs haha.

Also notice Bitton has been linked with Lenny's team, reckon he would be a good signing as well.


Good players, wouldn't fit LJ style of play though. LJ wants high pressing from his MF, similar to Celtic under Ange. He's a good #6 but is far from mobile and that played against him under Ange, would do the same here.

[King Cosell]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

St Mirren move back on according to Derek McGregor (The Sun)

[Sir David Gray]

Sorry if this has been covered already but, Does anyone think Tom rogic would be realistic for us? Think he would be perfect for us in midfield? Would wages be the deal breaker? I would break the bank for him and would be a bit of a statement!

Not a chance we're signing Tom Rogic.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Declan Gallagher’s move to St Mirren collapsed …would you take him at ER

No thanks failed at Aberdeen

[One Day Soon]

Who is our midfield playmaker?

I don't agree with the strategy the club is pursuing in its signings but I can understand it. At this point I don't see enough experience in there for my liking, I don't see a captain (and I think we really need a new captain) and I don't see the playmaker. Of course all that may yet be resolved before the league starts.

However the strategy so far is overwhelmingly toward signing younger and relatively inexperienced players and betting heavily that Lee Johnson/Scouts/Transfer Committee/Others is/are able to spot a player just about to mature from promising youngster into good, reliable, regular first team starter. McGeady potentially transforms us up front, providing he stays injury free. These are both quite risky gambits however so I really hope we throw double six on these dice.

Perhaps the magic formula here will lie in Lee Johnson's ability to get a much better tune out of the players we already had and see some of the new signings step up? Perhaps.

I can't wait for the new season, on the basis that I'll travel in hope rather than expectation. I think we can kiss boring Jack Ross type football goodbye - it's going to be extremes where we will either be moaning our t**s off in despair or tickling our t**s off in excitement.

[greenpaper55]

Whatever 'a big hold up target man' is these days, if a team is a playing with a front three, with a centre that's not exactly mobile, its easy for defenders to cut supply to the side players via that route. Doidge wouldn't fit the role, or would be at best nuisance value. No point in replacing like with like.

Grant Holt , someone like that would do just fine

[Since90+2]

No thanks failed at Aberdeen

If he can find the form he had at Motherwell that got him into Scotland squads I'd definitely take him. He's not done particularly well at Aberdeen but I do think there's a player in there.

[Since452]

Who's our best player? Surely about that time Aberdeen make an offer of a Curly Wurly and a packet of Monster Munch for him. Porteous?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

No thanks failed at Aberdeen

Paul Hartley failed here. Didn't mean he was poor where ever he went

[Stokesy's on fire]

Paul Hartley failed here. Didn't mean he was poor where ever he went

Paul Hartley was young when he left us...

[IberianHibernian]

Paul Hartley failed here. Didn't mean he was poor where ever he wentI remember thinking he was quite good with us but at the time we had better players in the same position . Like with Clayton Donaldson - very good player at our level but we happened to have even better at the time .

[cabbageandribs1875]

Gareth Bale agrees to join Los Angeles FC

[Since452]

I remember thinking he was quite good with us but at the time we had better players in the same position . Like with Clayton Donaldson - very good player at our level but we happened to have even better at the time .

I remember my Raith Rovers mate waxing lyrical about him (Hartley) when we signed him. Actually quite liked him at Hibs. His game time was quite limited though if I remember correctly. Turned out to be a very good player and good career.

[Dmas]

Not a chance we're signing Tom Rogic.

I was told that Rogic is having a battle with depression don’t know how true it is he did pull out of the World Cup squad over personal reasons, I think he will be playing in Oz next season

[Since452]

I was told that Rogic is having a battle with depression don’t know how true it is he did pull out of the World Cup squad over personal reasons, I think he will be playing in Oz next season

Horrible thing that. Hope it isn't true.

[CapitalGreen]

Who is our midfield playmaker?

I don't agree with the strategy the club is pursuing in its signings but I can understand it. At this point I don't see enough experience in there for my liking, I don't see a captain (and I think we really need a new captain) and I don't see the playmaker. Of course all that may yet be resolved before the league starts.


If by playmaker, you mean an Allan type of creative midfielder then that will be McGeady. If you mean a McGeouch type to take the ball off the defence and start attacking moves then that will be Kennah.

If we are to appoint a new captain then that may be McGeady too.

[04Sauzee]

Dundee Utd still in talks with Man Utd about getting Dylan Levitt back on loan.

[CapitalGreen]

Dundee Utd still in talks with Man Utd about getting Dylan Levitt back on loan.

We should be in for him if he is available.

[SteveHFC]

Dundee Utd still in talks with Man Utd about getting Dylan Levitt back on loan.

That’s a player we should be going for.

[Del Boy]

Dundee Utd still in talks with Man Utd about getting Dylan Levitt back on loan.

Absolute class player, scored 5 or 6 tremendous goals in second half of the season.

[1875Sean]

Seen a few of the squad updates including fringe players,
If you take away the players that are going to mainly
Be involved with the B team I see the squad below as our first team squad.

I did include Rocky however he could easily be more involved with the B team depending on what defenders we get in

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Mitchell

Cadden
Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Magennis
Henderson
Kenneh
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
Youan

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre half

[IberianHibernian]

Seen a few of the squad updates including fringe players,
If you take away the players that are going to mainly
Be involved with the B team I see the squad below as our first team squad.

I did include Rocky however he could easily be more involved with the B team depending on what defenders we get in

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Mitchell

Cadden
Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Magennis
Henderson
Kenneh
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
Youan

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre halfLooks like a more realistic list than ones with about 35 players earlier on thread . Most ex devt team players for B team . Nisbet and maybe Hanlon and others not fit yet so squad not as massive as it seemed . Not sure if Hauge is B or first team ( mainly as i suppose B team players will be playing for first team too at times )
. Tait , Mackie and Bradley ( when loan in Ireland finishes ) too .

[1875Sean]

Looks like a more realistic list than ones with about 35 players earlier on thread . Most ex devt team players for B team . Nisbet and maybe Hanlon and others not fit yet so squad not as massive as it seemed . Not sure if Hauge is B or first team ( mainly as i suppose B team players will be playing for first team too at times )
. Tait , Mackie and Bradley ( when loan in Ireland finishes ) too .

Aye managers usually like a squad of around 21 -24 first team players, Hauge was considered a B team player when he came in but we didn’t really have a b team established at the time. I think the likes of Tait, Mackay will either be loaned out again or play with the B team and try and impress in the first team squad along with some of the younger players trying to push in

[McGruber]

If by playmaker, you mean an Allan type of creative midfielder then that will be McGeady. If you mean a McGeouch type to take the ball off the defence and start attacking moves then that will be Kennah.

If we are to appoint a new captain then that may be McGeady too.

I don't think it's a playmaker type we are missing, more a leader in midfield. An experienced type that can drive the team on. Graham Shinnie type.

[Scouse Hibee]

Sign young players - “ we need first team players now”

Sign a first team player for this season- “where’s the longevity”

Whoosh

[ZitellZeTime]

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre half[/QUOTE]

Ah **** hope we don't lose Porto, he might loose the heid at times but hes a brilliant defender, another season here in a team hopefully playing well would do him good.

Also no mention of Doig there, is he staying, I was worried there would be quite a lot of teams in for him. If so thats great news.

If Doidge goes I'll feel gutted for the big man, when he hit a patch he was good, but had to wait on them patches, which i didn't mind as when they came he was on fire but he just doesn't look the same, I know some injuries take longer to recover and they can be hesitant to do things before, but he looked even all the way to the end of the season totally unfit, weak at times too, maybe with the injury and covid its affected him badly.

I read somewhere else this new guy is also fast and can play anywhere on a front 3, so we must be going 3 upfront, maybe interchangeable up there during games but if Doidge goes think we still need to get someone physical up there with bit experience.

Someone like remember him that ddi great for Falkirk went down south and ended up here somehow, Farid el something, he looked the part before he got injured like, was decent with the ball too, he looked like he was going to be class. No idea who like but something like that. Think Melkerson will look a lot better in a new system and not isolated upfront also with a full pre season.

[cameronw-hfc]

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre half

Ah **** hope we don't lose Porto, he might loose the heid at times but hes a brilliant defender, another season here in a team hopefully playing well would do him good.

Also no mention of Doig there, is he staying, I was worried there would be quite a lot of teams in for him. If so thats great news.

If Doidge goes I'll feel gutted for the big man, when he hit a patch he was good, but had to wait on them patches, which i didn't mind as when they came he was on fire but he just doesn't look the same, I know some injuries take longer to recover and they can be hesitant to do things before, but he looked even all the way to the end of the season totally unfit, weak at times too, maybe with the injury and covid its affected him badly.

I read somewhere else this new guy is also fast and can play anywhere on a front 3, so we must be going 3 upfront, maybe interchangeable up there during games but if Doidge goes think we still need to get someone physical up there with bit experience.

Someone like remember him that ddi great for Falkirk went down south and ended up here somehow, Farid el something, he looked the part before he got injured like, was decent with the ball too, he looked like he was going to be class. No idea who like but something like that. Think Melkerson will look a lot better in a new system and not isolated upfront also with a full pre season.



It may well do him good, but it would be near catastrophic for us if he doesn't sign a new deal. A club like Hibs relies on the odd youth product and cheap signing to be sold for cash every few years, losing Porto for free at the end of this year would be sickening.

He's always been a "future captain" or "future big fee" for us in my eyes, to have him go for nothing would be terrible business from the club so realistically if he won't sign a new deal, we kinda have to get rid this summer.

[Since452]

Has there actually been any interest in Porteous reported? There was a bit of noise last summer but not heard anything recently.

[Bridge hibs]

Has there actually been any interest in Porteous reported? There was a bit of noise last summer but not heard anything recently.Think it could be one of those situations when the English market kicks off and player start moving and need replaced we could possibly hear of interest, if any, same for Doig possibly too. I expect LJ to be reading the situation with replacements lined up. Would be brutal to have those players leave at end of window without ready replacements

[theonlywayisup]

Looks like a more realistic list than ones with about 35 players earlier on thread . Most ex devt team players for B team . Nisbet and maybe Hanlon and others not fit yet so squad not as massive as it seemed . Not sure if Hauge is B or first team ( mainly as i suppose B team players will be playing for first team too at times )
. Tait , Mackie and Bradley ( when loan in Ireland finishes ) too .

Pretty sure Mackie left at end of season just finished. Off to Raith Rovers.

[CapitalGreen]

Seen a few of the squad updates including fringe players,
If you take away the players that are going to mainly
Be involved with the B team I see the squad below as our first team squad.

I did include Rocky however he could easily be more involved with the B team depending on what defenders we get in

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Mitchell

Cadden
Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Magennis
Henderson
Kenneh
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
Youan

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre half

Thanks for sharing, much easier to see what’s still required looking at this list.

[CapitalGreen]

I don't think it's a playmaker type we are missing, more a leader in midfield. An experienced type that can drive the team on. Graham Shinnie type.

I agree we need a midfielder who can drive us forward, a type we’ve not really had since McGinn and McGeouch left. I’m not that fussed how much experience they have as long as they have ability. From what I’ve seen, Dylan Levitt would be perfect for that role.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

25974

Amazed folk never got it!

[scoopyboy]

Pretty sure Mackie left at end of season just finished. Off to Raith Rovers.

Sean has signed a two year contract at Falkirk, made his debut at home to Killie on Friday night.

[neil7908]

Seen a few of the squad updates including fringe players,
If you take away the players that are going to mainly
Be involved with the B team I see the squad below as our first team squad.

I did include Rocky however he could easily be more involved with the B team depending on what defenders we get in

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Mitchell

Cadden
Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Magennis
Henderson
Kenneh
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
Youan

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre half

Things are definitely taking shape and we are getting closer to what I think most of us want see.

CB still must a priority. We have a lot of midfielders but a huge amount rests on Kenneh (a lot to ask for a 19 year old) and Magennis (can he stay fit). We desperately missed goals from this area last season and I don't expect Newell, Doyle-Hayes or Campbell to suddenly start providing them.

Out wide I still think we need another option. Tavares looks exciting but McGeady is getting on and I'd be amazed if he managed 90 mins most weeks.

Finally up top, we have a lot of options. Of we go 433 I can't see us adding anyone else but with Nisbet out for months and a number of young players without a record of scoring goals in Scotland, if Doidge leaves we could do with another option with experience.

So far I'm pleased with the business done and its been early so we still have plenty of time. But we definitely need another 2 or even 3 options. Maybe more if we lose players.

[Wilson]

Amazed folk never got it!

Are you really amazed?

I didn't remember the baseball bat story until someone referenced it.

You essentially have a straightforward post on a site that is typically a font of ignorance. Without a smiley folk are not going to assume it's a joke.

I'm amazed that you are amazed.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Are you really amazed?

I didn't remember the baseball bat story until someone referenced it.

You essentially have a straightforward post on a site that is typically a font of ignorance. Without a smiley folk are not going to assume it's a joke.

I'm amazed that you are amazed.

Good to know.

[Wilson]

Good to know.

Amazing.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Amazing.

Is it really amazing?

[Wilson]

Is it really amazing?

Aye ;)

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell

DM: Stevenson, Kenneh, Campbell
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: McGeady, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes

RW: Tavares, Hauge
LW: Melkerson, Mackay
CF: Youan, Nisbet, Bojang

Doidge likely out.

[B.H.F.C]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell

DM: Stevenson, Kenneh, Campbell
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: McGeady, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes

RW: Tavares, Hauge
LW: Melkerson, Mackay
CF: Youan, Nisbet, Bojang

Doidge likely out.

I don’t think we’re a million miles away now. We need a centre half and a central midfielder. The type that go straight in to the team and improve us rather than just fill a space in the squad (particularly the midfielder).

[duffers]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell

DM: Stevenson, Kenneh, Campbell
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: McGeady, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes

RW: Tavares, Hauge
LW: Melkerson, Mackay
CF: Youan, Nisbet, Bojang

Doidge likely out.


Will be interesting to see where LJ see’s Cadden fitting in to the team. Also, would McGeady be in a midfield 3, or likely be on the left / right of the front 3?

I like the idea of a midfield 3 of Kenneh, Newell and Magennis. The tricky bit would be keeping them all fit.

Without knowing a great deal about the new boys, this sounds like an exciting starting 11.

Marshall

Miller
Porto
Hanlon
Doig

Kenneh
Newell
Maggenis

McGeady
Youan
Tavares

[J-C]

Pretty sure Mackie left at end of season just finished. Off to Raith Rovers.

Think he means Mackay.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell

DM: Stevenson, Kenneh, Campbell
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: McGeady, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes

RW: Tavares, Hauge
LW: Melkerson, Mackay
CF: Youan, Nisbet, Bojang

Doidge likely out.
Good to see the signings coming in but looking at that we are still so so light up front/ reliant on these guys hitting the ground running.
Reinforcement in the middle of the park and a striker with half decent reliability at a comparable level still undeniably needed for me!!!!

Too much untested and unknown.. Would be a lot more comfortable if we got in a Tony Watt/Shankland/Sam Cosgrove type where you have a bit of confidence you can expect 10 - 15 goals.

[McGruber]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell

DM: Stevenson, Kenneh, Campbell
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: McGeady, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes

RW: Tavares, Hauge
LW: Melkerson, Mackay
CF: Youan, Nisbet, Bojang

Doidge likely out.

I wince with each of these lists that have Cadden at right back. Delfierre and Hague were both signed to the B team and are no nearer the 1st team than 10 or so others. We gave a token run out to some Bs and youths as a gesture/encouragement last game of the season 3 goals up - too much being read into that. I hope they and others push for the 1st team but they have it all to prove at the minute.

I would say a right back, centre back and midfielder required still - plus a striker if Doidge does go. Given the size of squad already though think we need to cover the gaps with fewer, versatile players that can cover a few positions

[Mr Grieves]

I don’t think we’re a million miles away now. We need a centre half and a central midfielder. The type that go straight in to the team and improve us rather than just fill a space in the squad (particularly the midfielder).

Unfortunately we're loaded with central midfielders (and will be for a while yet!) that just aren't good enough. I can't see us bringing another in unless we get rid first.

[B.H.F.C]

Unfortunately we're loaded with central midfielders (and will be for a while yet!) that just aren't good enough. I can't see us bringing another in unless we get rid first.

To be fair, we’ve made a decent start to moving on contracted players, don’t think they’ll be the last to go.

[HendoDelivered]

Think we are still to see an Attacking mid and centre half through the door yet

[Heisenberg]

Think we are still to see an Attacking mid and centre half through the door yet

I forgot it was noted in an article not long ago that the manager was wanting an attacking midfielder. Wonder where that would leave Henderson.

[MWHIBBIES]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon, Delfierre
LB: Doig, Mitchell

DM: Stevenson, Kenneh, Campbell
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: McGeady, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes

RW: Tavares, Hauge
LW: Melkerson, Mackay
CF: Youan, Nisbet, Bojang

Doidge likely out.

Need to be playing players in the right position. Melkersen is not a left winger.

[Nicho87]

For me with the players we are signing looks like he will start with 4-3-3

Marshall

Miller Porteous Hanlon Doig

Cadden Kenneh Newell

McGeady Youane Tavares


That’s just an idea of a potential 11 but I think cadden maybe more utilised at right back or right of a midfield three as he does run the channel very well. I think going with newell and JDH is just to risky as midfield we were poor last season.

Genuianly think we’re only a centre half and driving midfielder away for a decent squad

When you think that 11 doesn’t include Mitchell, Henderson, Melkerson, Bojang who can be decent options to come on.

Keep them coming

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen confirm Declan Gallagher has left the club. Imagine he's about to sign for St Mirren.

[Scottie]

Aberdeen confirm Declan Gallagher has left the club. Imagine he's about to sign for St Mirren.
:agree: Deal back on to St Midden according to the Record

[EVENTUALLY]

For me with the players we are signing looks like he will start with 4-3-3

Marshall

Miller Porteous Hanlon Doig

Cadden Kenneh Newell

McGeady Youane Tavares


That’s just an idea of a potential 11 but I think cadden maybe more utilised at right back or right of a midfield three as he does run the channel very well. I think going with newell and JDH is just to risky as midfield we were poor last season.

Genuianly think we’re only a centre half and driving midfielder away for a decent squad

When you think that 11 doesn’t include Mitchell, Henderson, Melkerson, Bojang who can be decent options to come on.

Keep them coming

A fit and healthy Kyle Magennis playing at the same levels as he was at the beginning of last season walks into that team.

[04Sauzee]

:agree: Deal back on to St Midden according to the Record

Yeah St Mirren confirm

We are delighted to announce the signing of Scotland international Declan Gallagher.

Welcome to St Mirren, Declan!

[Nicho87]

A fit and healthy Kyle Magennis playing at the same levels as he was at the beginning of last season walks into that team.

Agreed

Hopefully he can make that happen

[truehibernian]

I think Doig will leave for a big fee, Doidge will leave for a fee, and Campbell will be loaned out or freed. Still need a centre half, left back/left centre back if Doig goes, creative midfielder and being greedy and experienced front man with a physical streak.

Big pre-season for MacKay and Tait, in particular young Tait. I think he will be a good player and offer much more than Campbell if and when used.

[Unseen work]

I think Doig will leave for a big fee, Doidge will leave for a fee, and Campbell will be loaned out or freed. Still need a centre half, left back/left centre back if Doig goes, creative midfielder and being greedy and experienced front man with a physical streak.

Big pre-season for MacKay and Tait, in particular young Tait. I think he will be a good player and offer much more than Campbell if and when used.

Glad you mentioned Tait, think a lot are unfairly writing him off.

Was brilliant for Raith and was only loaned back to them as that’s the only way the deal would get done. Done well again for them on loan, got a move to Kilmarnock (don’t think that was a great idea) and started off reasonably well before getting injured.

Still only 20, lots of time left and think Johnson could quite like how he can do a bit of everything.

[Sioux]

This for me;

Miller Porto Hanlon Doig

Magennis Kenneh Newell

Tavares Youan McGeady

This is based on the assumption that width will come from the front 2 wide players and full backs, whilst the midfield 3 will play narrow.

Magennis and Newell are well capable of getting into the advance areas when in possession and will, as LJ puts it, 'load the forward areas'

Just to confuse the opposition, Tavares and Youan seem not be play in a set position all the time, McGeady can drop in as a 10 and leave space for Doig to get into the forward wide area. That whole set is far more fluid than we've had before, could be exciting.

It would of course confuse those who obsess with formations, and would have difficulty in accepting that the manager does know what formation he is playing, even though with all of the movement available, they can't work out what it is.:greengrin

Five attack minded midfield and front players and two attacking full backs, what's not to like. :flag:

[McGruber]

For me with the players we are signing looks like he will start with 4-3-3

Marshall

Miller Porteous Hanlon Doig

Cadden Kenneh Newell

McGeady Youane Tavares


That’s just an idea of a potential 11 but I think cadden maybe more utilised at right back or right of a midfield three as he does run the channel very well. I think going with newell and JDH is just to risky as midfield we were poor last season.

Genuianly think we’re only a centre half and driving midfielder away for a decent squad

When you think that 11 doesn’t include Mitchell, Henderson, Melkerson, Bojang who can be decent options to come on.

Keep them coming

It doesn't include a few others, Nisbet when back, Magennis - though fitness issues for both. Also Stevenson who always finds himself out the ideal teams but usually our best player when he does play.

That team looks exciting though a lot of pressure there on kenneh coming in with so many attacking players. Could be fun though

[Fergus52]

Things are definitely taking shape and we are getting closer to what I think most of us want see.

CB still must a priority. We have a lot of midfielders but a huge amount rests on Kenneh (a lot to ask for a 19 year old) and Magennis (can he stay fit). We desperately missed goals from this area last season and I don't expect Newell, Doyle-Hayes or Campbell to suddenly start providing them.

Out wide I still think we need another option. Tavares looks exciting but McGeady is getting on and I'd be amazed if he managed 90 mins most weeks.

Finally up top, we have a lot of options. Of we go 433 I can't see us adding anyone else but with Nisbet out for months and a number of young players without a record of scoring goals in Scotland, if Doidge leaves we could do with another option with experience.

So far I'm pleased with the business done and its been early so we still have plenty of time. But we definitely need another 2 or even 3 options. Maybe more if we lose players.

Don't think we'll sign another winger, along with the two you mentioned we have Mitchell, Mackay, Youan, Bojan who can all play out wide in a front 3, Cadden and Melkerson could also be considered at a push.

[Fergus52]

I wince with each of these lists that have Cadden at right back. Delfierre and Hague were both signed to the B team and are no nearer the 1st team than 10 or so others. We gave a token run out to some Bs and youths as a gesture/encouragement last game of the season 3 goals up - too much being read into that. I hope they and others push for the 1st team but they have it all to prove at the minute.

I would say a right back, centre back and midfielder required still - plus a striker if Doidge does go. Given the size of squad already though think we need to cover the gaps with fewer, versatile players that can cover a few positions

Why? He's played right back in a four for us several times before and been fine.

Doesn't look like Johnson wants to play with wing backs, and I'd much rather see him at fullback than wide right in a front 3.

Great at getting up and down the line and whipping in crosses, but not exceptionally quick and can't beat a man.

Think he'd be more effective for us as an attacking fullback than a winger based on the way Johnson wants to play.

[xqnq1875]

We’re supposedly after reading holding midfielder dejan tetek I think his name is, pal works with a guy that’s a reading fan supposedly we’re interested honestly don’t know how much truth is in it so take it with a pinch of salt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Dmas]

It doesn't include a few others, Nisbet when back, Magennis - though fitness issues for both. Also Stevenson who always finds himself out the ideal teams but usually our best player when he does play.

That team looks exciting though a lot of pressure there on kenneh coming in with so many attacking players. Could be fun though

Totally agree with your point on Stevenson, maybe a season too far for it but on last seasons evidence I’d play him ahead of Newell on the left side of a mid 3 I thought he was outstanding when played in midfield last year couldn’t believe how easily he was shifted back into CH after the difference he made to the midfield performances

[JimBHibees]

Totally agree with your point on Stevenson, maybe a season too far for it but on last seasons evidence I’d play him ahead of Newell on the left side of a mid 3 I thought he was outstanding when played in midfield last year couldn’t believe how easily he was shifted back into CH after the difference he made to the midfield performances

Agree should have been played every week in midfield gave us a bit aggression heart and quality we were sadly lacking. His performance at Hampden was brilliant and deserved more than losing.

[Smartie]

Totally agree with your point on Stevenson, maybe a season too far for it but on last seasons evidence I’d play him ahead of Newell on the left side of a mid 3 I thought he was outstanding when played in midfield last year couldn’t believe how easily he was shifted back into CH after the difference he made to the midfield performances

I think a midfield 3 of Kenneh, Stevenson and Magennis could be superb.

[Big_Franck]

We’re supposedly after reading holding midfielder dejan tetek I think his name is, pal works with a guy that’s a reading fan supposedly we’re interested honestly don’t know how much truth is in it so take it with a pinch of salt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dejan Tetek seems to fit the general profile of player we are signing. 19 year old midfielder who has occasionally played right back. English born but represents Serbia at U21 level.

Played 21 games in all competitions for Reading over seasons 2020/21 and 2021/22. Missed a big chunk of last season out injured from January to April.

[MWHIBBIES]

Totally agree with your point on Stevenson, maybe a season too far for it but on last seasons evidence I’d play him ahead of Newell on the left side of a mid 3 I thought he was outstanding when played in midfield last year couldn’t believe how easily he was shifted back into CH after the difference he made to the midfield performances


Lewis can do a solid job in there but if we're looking for better than Newell, we're also certainly looking for better than Lewis.

Getting Newell back to his best is the way to go, because he's better than Lewis in there when he's on form.

[Bayern Bru]

Need to be playing players in the right position. Melkersen is not a left winger.

He can play anywhere across the front three and I think there's been suggestions recently that LJ is keen to use him in a wider role - and in a 4-3-3 it won't be so much a winger but as a wide forward

[Dmas]

Lewis can do a solid job in there but if we're looking for better than Newell, we're also certainly looking for better than Lewis.

Getting Newell back to his best is the way to go, because he's better than Lewis in there when he's on form.

Oh aye I’m not suggesting to stop the hunt for a midfielder cause lewis is there we’re needing to get someone who is much more natural in the position imo I’m also hopeful LJ can drag a bit more out of Joe Newell as well

[PH91]

Fresh perspective on positionings from me this morning:

GK: Marshall, Dabrowski

RB: Cadden, Miller
CB: Porteous, Rocky
CB: Hanlon
LB: Doig, Mitchell, Stevenson

DM: Kenneh, Doyle-Hayes
LCM: Newell, Henderson
RCM: Magennis, Campbell

RW: Tavares, McGeady
LW: Youan
CF: Nisbet, Melkerson

Doidge likely out.

I think delfierre, hauge, mackay and bojang would be seen as development team players who might get the odd appearance off the bench. When you take them away and note that nisbet is out until the end of the year it shows we are really limited on attacking players. The absolute priorities for me are another wide forward (ideally who can also play centrally) and a centre half. Doidge/Doig/Porto will obviously also need replaced with players ready for the first team if any of them go.

I'm ok with the midfield options as i think LJ will set them up in a system that suits them rather than hanging them out to dry like maloney did. Kenneh, newell and magennis looks very good on paper and JDH is still a good young player who eill get plenty of game time. I'd only expect another in if one leaves. Magennis staying fit seems like it might be a big factor, though. I really hope he can and we finally get to see what he is all about.

[Sioux]

Need to be playing players in the right position. Melkersen is not a left winger.

A wide player in a front three does not need to be a winger.

[Smartie]

Lewis can do a solid job in there but if we're looking for better than Newell, we're also certainly looking for better than Lewis.

Getting Newell back to his best is the way to go, because he's better than Lewis in there when he's on form.

I can’t remember how many times Lewis played there - at Arbroath, at Hampden, against St Johnstone in the final game off the top of my head.

Not sure what more could have been asked of him or anyone else in his place in those 3 - he was outstanding.

At least as well with Lewis you get consistency. If the team is off their game, he’s still going. If the team is off, Joe Newell disappears. For that reason I’d have Lewis over Newell every day of the week - although with Lewis not getting any younger that won’t be the case forever.

[MWHIBBIES]

A wide player in a front three does not need to be a winger.

Doesn't need to be, but the good ones general are.

[MWHIBBIES]

I can’t remember how many times Lewis played there - at Arbroath, at Hampden, against St Johnstone in the final game off the top of my head.

Not sure what more could have been asked of him or anyone else in his place in those 3 - he was outstanding.

At least as well with Lewis you get consistency. If the team is off their game, he’s still going. If the team is off, Joe Newell disappears. For that reason I’d have Lewis over Newell every day of the week - although with Lewis not getting any younger that won’t be the case forever.

It's not really a big sample size, though, is it? Lewis is a battler and a warrior but there will be plenty games were that isn't as important as putting the foot on it and moving it forward, something Newell does well.

Newell played all season there as we finished 3rd. That's the level he can play at, and the one the manager needs to get him to. Lewis is an excellent squad player and should remain that.

[J-C]

Think we are still to see an Attacking mid and centre half through the door yet

Wonder if McGeady will be seen as the attacking mid, he seemingly played more central last season at Sunderland.

[CapitalGreen]

Oh aye I’m not suggesting to stop the hunt for a midfielder cause lewis is there we’re needing to get someone who is much more natural in the position imo I’m also hopeful LJ can drag a bit more out of Joe Newell as well

If people don’t believe a new manager will improve the existing players at a club, then there isn’t really much point in changing managers. Every good manager we have had in recent times (McLeish, Mowbray, Stubbs, Lennon, Ross) have raised the levels of players he has inherited from the previous manager.

[Dmas]

If people don’t believe a new manager will improve the existing players at a club, then there isn’t really much point in changing managers. Every good manager we have had in recent times (McLeish, Mowbray, Stubbs, Lennon, Ross) have raised the levels of players he has inherited from the previous manager.

Definitely I think LJ’s coaching will improve many, I think he has a decent track record of improving players, I’m not sure though that’s good enough for our midfield issues though, we where very poor in there last season, over all not just Joe Newell I don’t want this to come across as an attack on him, I think we need to be looking at new players in there where we can, I don’t think Newell will be moved on so I’m hoping new players new management can breathe a bit of life into him and get him going

[Lago]

:aok:
If people don’t believe a new manager will improve the existing players at a club, then there isn’t really much point in changing managers. Every good manager we have had in recent times (McLeish, Mowbray, Stubbs, Lennon, Ross) have raised the levels of players he has inherited from the previous manager.

[Sioux]

Doesn't need to be, but the good ones general are.

Like Salah and Mane?

[MWHIBBIES]

Like Salah and Mane?

Eh, yeah, pretty good examples actually. Both predominantly wingers. Both were for years. Like career wingers. Not strikers turned wide forwards. Obviously Liverpools front 3 rotate a bit but the majority of the time those 2 were wide and cutting in.

[The Modfather]

It's not really a big sample size, though, is it? Lewis is a battler and a warrior but there will be plenty games were that isn't as important as putting the foot on it and moving it forward, something Newell does well.

Newell played all season there as we finished 3rd. That's the level he can play at, and the one the manager needs to get him to. Lewis is an excellent squad player and should remain that.

Gogic was also a mainstay of the midfield the season we finished 3rd. He actually played two more league games than Newell. That’s also the level he can play at but it was still the right decision to move him on IMO.

The season we finished 3rd was in spite of the midfield not because of it IMO. We essentially sacrificed the midfield that season for gains elsewhere. In mitigation of Gogic & Newell they often played as a two up against 3 opposition midfielders. Newell is much better technically than Stevenson, but I think Stevenson probably makes us more than the sum of our parts more than Newell does.

[CapitalGreen]

The best types of wide forward will really depend on the managers system and the other players in the starting XI. An out and out right winger for example may not be appropriate if also playing an attacking right sided defender as otherwise they’d end up occupying the same attacking positions. If you have a defensive right back, the right sided attacker would be required to provide the attacking width so a winger would then be appropriate.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Seen a few of the squad updates including fringe players,
If you take away the players that are going to mainly
Be involved with the B team I see the squad below as our first team squad.

I did include Rocky however he could easily be more involved with the B team depending on what defenders we get in

Marshall
Dabrowski

Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Mitchell

Cadden
Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Magennis
Henderson
Kenneh
Tavares
McGeady

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
Youan

Doidge And Porto might be away, I’d like us to see get another player like fletcher in if Doidge leaves, also in defence we need someone like a Harry Clarke who can cover right back and centre half

Can we just give thids Fletcher chat a rest. He's not coming here.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Pretty sure Mackie left at end of season just finished. Off to Raith Rovers.

Mackie signed for Falkirk last wek