View Full Version : Greggs Summer 2022-23 transfer thread
MWHIBBIES
26-06-2022, 12:28 PM
Gogic was also a mainstay of the midfield the season we finished 3rd. He actually played two more league games than Newell. That’s also the level he can play at but it was still the right decision to move him on IMO.
The season we finished 3rd was in spite of the midfield not because of it IMO. We essentially sacrificed the midfield that season for gains elsewhere. In mitigation of Gogic & Newell they often played as a two up against 3 opposition midfielders. Newell is much better technically than Stevenson, but I think Stevenson probably makes us more than the sum of our parts more than Newell does.
I think the thing is, if Gogic could do that one specific job he would be good enough. But he was extremely limited, like Marv before him. Newell undoubtedly has more to his game and when on form, is a much better player than Gogic with far more ability. If Johnson can bring that out of him, then I think Newell is the best central midfielder we've got. If not, we should be looking at a replacement.
The Modfather
26-06-2022, 12:39 PM
I think the thing is, if Gogic could do that one specific job he would be good enough. But he was extremely limited, like Marv before him. Newell undoubtedly has more to his game and when on form, is a much better player than Gogic with far more ability. If Johnson can bring that out of him, then I think Newell is the best central midfielder we've got. If not, we should be looking at a replacement.
Newell has all the tools to be our best midfielder but is too much of an “on his day” player, and those days are not often enough IMO. He’s 29 now so I think we’ve seen all there is to come from him. Some really good days and some really ineffectual days, sometimes from half to half. He’s been part of too many midfield lineups that have been less than the sum of its parts for it to be a coincidence, without it being solely his fault. He’s closer to part of the problem than part of the solution IMO.
An excellent squad player but a player that is better on paper than the reality IMO. I’d rather try and develop JDH who is 6 years younger than persist with Newell in the hope he can suddenly bring it all together more than every now and then.
blackpoolhibs
26-06-2022, 12:50 PM
Gogic was also a mainstay of the midfield the season we finished 3rd. He actually played two more league games than Newell. That’s also the level he can play at but it was still the right decision to move him on IMO.
The season we finished 3rd was in spite of the midfield not because of it IMO. We essentially sacrificed the midfield that season for gains elsewhere. In mitigation of Gogic & Newell they often played as a two up against 3 opposition midfielders. Newell is much better technically than Stevenson, but I think Stevenson probably makes us more than the sum of our parts more than Newell does.
This 100%. :agree:
SMAXXA
26-06-2022, 01:06 PM
Expect to see Doig leave in next couple of weeks if not sooner.
Sioux
26-06-2022, 01:09 PM
Eh, yeah, pretty good examples actually. Both predominantly wingers. Both were for years. Like career wingers. Not strikers turned wide forwards. Obviously Liverpools front 3 rotate a bit but the majority of the time those 2 were wide and cutting in.
:faf::faf:
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 01:18 PM
Expect to see Doig leave in next couple of weeks if not sooner.
So you think it will be to Italy or down South? Hope we get a decent fee.
Also wonder if we are still interested in the West Ham youngster and if we will make a move for him before Doig leaves
JimBHibees
26-06-2022, 01:25 PM
Newell has all the tools to be our best midfielder but is too much of an “on his day” player, and those days are not often enough IMO. He’s 29 now so I think we’ve seen all there is to come from him. Some really good days and some really ineffectual days, sometimes from half to half. He’s been part of too many midfield lineups that have been less than the sum of its parts for it to be a coincidence, without it being solely his fault. He’s closer to part of the problem than part of the solution IMO.
An excellent squad player but a player that is better on paper than the reality IMO. I’d rather try and develop JDH who is 6 years younger than persist with Newell in the hope he can suddenly bring it all together more than every now and then.
Pretty much word for word what I think.
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 01:28 PM
St Johnstone close to signing Graham Carey
tamig
26-06-2022, 01:38 PM
Newell has all the tools to be our best midfielder but is too much of an “on his day” player, and those days are not often enough IMO. He’s 29 now so I think we’ve seen all there is to come from him. Some really good days and some really ineffectual days, sometimes from half to half. He’s been part of too many midfield lineups that have been less than the sum of its parts for it to be a coincidence, without it being solely his fault. He’s closer to part of the problem than part of the solution IMO.
An excellent squad player but a player that is better on paper than the reality IMO. I’d rather try and develop JDH who is 6 years younger than persist with Newell in the hope he can suddenly bring it all together more than every now and then.
Newell, JDH and Magennis looked a great unit at the start of last season. Joe Newell still has plenty to offer imo.
MWHIBBIES
26-06-2022, 01:41 PM
:faf::faf:
Do you genuinely think Melkersen playing wide of a front three is the same as Salah and Mane doing so?
The Modfather
26-06-2022, 01:51 PM
Newell, JDH and Magennis looked a great unit at the start of last season. Joe Newell still has plenty to offer imo.
They did start well, but those 3 actually only played 3 games together until Magennis got injured. I remember being surprised by that, but the midfield lineup changed regularly early in the season with Gogic & Allan coming in. Rarely did we play the same midfield game to game until Maggenis got injured.
Greenworld
26-06-2022, 02:12 PM
Expect to see Doig leave in next couple of weeks if not sooner.Gut feeling or something more solid?
Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
Mr. Wonderful
26-06-2022, 02:47 PM
Gut feeling or something more solid?
Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
As soon as we sign someone to replace him.
Hibiza
26-06-2022, 03:08 PM
Definitely I think LJ’s coaching will improve many, I think he has a decent track record of improving players, I’m not sure though that’s good enough for our midfield issues though, we where very poor in there last season, over all not just Joe Newell I don’t want this to come across as an attack on him, I think we need to be looking at new players in there where we can, I don’t think Newell will be moved on so I’m hoping new players new management can breathe a bit of life into him and get him going
There are times when the only thing that gets Joe going is a pair of jump leads .
Since452
26-06-2022, 03:10 PM
Magennis is the missing link in midfield. Having him fit and available is the key.
Can we just give thids Fletcher chat a rest. He's not coming here.
Thank goodness
CapitalGreen
26-06-2022, 03:31 PM
Owura Edwards has joined Ross County on a seasons loan.
bingo70
26-06-2022, 03:33 PM
Magennis is the missing link in midfield. Having him fit and available is the key.
I agree with you, it’s whether he stays fit or not though.
If I was the manager I wouldn’t want to rely on him staying fit.
SMAXXA
26-06-2022, 05:29 PM
As soon as we sign someone to replace him.
I don’t think we will replace him we will go with what we have at left back, Mitchell, lewi and the Aussie lad and Cadden can play there too. I’d think we will use the funds to strengthen elsewhere
SMAXXA
26-06-2022, 05:30 PM
Gut feeling or something more solid?
Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
Just from what I am told mate and would expect him to go abroad but a lot to still be done to make that happen
Nicho87
26-06-2022, 05:44 PM
Hibs confirming the squad that has travelled and pointing out the injured players have went to continue rehab too.
Mitchell and Magennis sound like they’re still not as close as we’d like
xqnq1875
26-06-2022, 05:55 PM
If doig goes which is looking more likely by the day I’d love to see us try get Nicky cadden who as you could probably tell is the brother to Chris he’s a very similar player who has a brilliant season with Forrest green rovers and is now a free agent
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CallumLaidlaw
26-06-2022, 05:56 PM
Hibs confirming the squad that has travelled and pointing out the injured players have went to continue rehab too.
Mitchell and Magennis sound like they’re still not as close as we’d like
Where you seeing this?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 05:58 PM
If doig goes which is looking more likely by the day I’d love to see us try get Nicky cadden who as you could probably tell is the brother to Chris he’s a very similar player who has a brilliant season with Forrest green rovers and is now a free agent
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Talks of him going to Oxford or Sheffield Wednesday
The Modfather
26-06-2022, 05:59 PM
Hibs confirming the squad that has travelled and pointing out the injured players have went to continue rehab too.
Mitchell and Magennis sound like they’re still not as close as we’d like
Think Johnson would be wise to essentially plan without Magennis. Any games he gets out of him and where Magennis is up to speed is a bonus.
Heisenberg
26-06-2022, 06:07 PM
Where you seeing this?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/squad-confirmed-for-portugal-training-camp
Nicho87
26-06-2022, 06:07 PM
Where you seeing this?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Fishy site
Billy Whizz
26-06-2022, 06:08 PM
Where you seeing this?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/squad-confirmed-for-portugal-training-camp
CapitalGreen
26-06-2022, 06:10 PM
I don’t think we will replace him we will go with what we have at left back, Mitchell, lewi and the Aussie lad and Cadden can play there too. I’d think we will use the funds to strengthen elsewhere
We’ve been looking at Doig replacements since the initial interest from down south last summer.
MWHIBBIES
26-06-2022, 06:12 PM
Jesus to Arsenal done, 45 million
Mikey_1875
26-06-2022, 06:13 PM
Hibs confirming the squad that has travelled and pointing out the injured players have went to continue rehab too.
Mitchell and Magennis sound like they’re still not as close as we’d like
That’s disappointing regarding Magennis. I’m sure there were people telling us he was back full training on here as well.
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 06:18 PM
Wonder if anyone else will join up with us in Portugal or if that's it until we get home.
Definitely still 3 or 4 light I think.
Iain G
26-06-2022, 06:20 PM
Jesus to Arsenal done, 45 million
The Man City fans will crucify him for that move 😁
Still, Pope to Newcastle and Jesus to Arsenal...🤣
Nicho87
26-06-2022, 06:24 PM
That squad and injuries confirms for me
We’re still needing a centre half, possible right back
Central midfielder and if being really greedy another striker on the basis that doidge is not on LJs wanted list.
HoboHarry
26-06-2022, 06:26 PM
The Man City fans will crucify him for that move 😁
Still, Pope to Newcastle and Jesus to Arsenal...🤣
They probably won't go that far, but I'll bet they are a bit cross......
Scorrie
26-06-2022, 06:29 PM
The Man City fans will crucify him for that move 😁
Still, Pope to Newcastle and Jesus to Arsenal...🤣
I’d love for The Rangers to sign Pope…
Unseen work
26-06-2022, 06:29 PM
Interesting Cadden as classed as a defender in the list.
Mitchell is a weird one, came back from his injury for one game near the end and then wasn’t seen again. Hopefully he can recover as I can see him being an important player.
Magennis I hope is just a case of taking it slow and being extra careful.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/squad-confirmed-for-portugal-training-camp
Notice Cadden has been listed as defender in that, I take it that's where LJ sees him playing as an attacking FB.
SHODAN
26-06-2022, 06:33 PM
Notice Cadden has been listed as defender in that, I take it that's where LJ sees him playing as an attacking FB.
Yup. Straight competition between him and Miller.
Yup. Straight competition between him and Miller.
Miller's last manager says we should be patient with him as it's a big move to another country etc, I feel Cadden will be 1st choice with Miller coming here to push for the spot and an eye on the future
degenerated
26-06-2022, 06:38 PM
Notice Cadden has been listed as defender in that, I take it that's where LJ sees him playing as an attacking FB.He was listed as a defender in the Hibs squad last season too.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/squads/mens-first-team
Billy Whizz
26-06-2022, 06:41 PM
Great to see some of the young lads in the camp
Souter96Mac
26-06-2022, 06:48 PM
I suspect we've got a good list of potential left back targets waiting in the wings should we lose Doig this summer
Paulie Walnuts
26-06-2022, 06:54 PM
Notice Cadden has been listed as defender in that, I take it that's where LJ sees him playing as an attacking FB.
That’s his position imo.
Seen a few people put up starting 11s for next season on here that have had Cadden on the right of a front 3. That gives me the absolute fear. He’s a full back all day imo and shouldn’t be playing further forward than that.
EVENTUALLY
26-06-2022, 06:56 PM
Hibs confirming the squad that has travelled and pointing out the injured players have went to continue rehab too.
Mitchell and Magennis sound like they’re still not as close as we’d like
No Dan MacKay or Dylan Tait.
Sir David Gray
26-06-2022, 06:58 PM
Hibs confirming the squad that has travelled and pointing out the injured players have went to continue rehab too.
Mitchell and Magennis sound like they’re still not as close as we’d like
That's surely not correct with Magennis, I was told on more than one occasion that he would definitely be back ready for pre-season after I had cast doubt on how much we could rely on him being fit.
Iain G
26-06-2022, 07:08 PM
No Dan MacKay or Dylan Tait.
That doesnt bode well for them unless both injured?
B.H.F.C
26-06-2022, 07:09 PM
No Dan MacKay or Dylan Tait.
Good spot, surely means they’re out on loan again.
Or not in the plans at all.
McGruber
26-06-2022, 07:10 PM
No Dan MacKay or Dylan Tait.
Wonder if there is an explanation/injury issue - would like to think they'll at least get a chance under Johnson.
McGruber
26-06-2022, 07:11 PM
Interesting to see Doidge has travelled
He was listed as a defender in the Hibs squad last season too.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/squads/mens-first-team
Yep, pretty sure he was listed as a midfielder when he 1st came here, did start with Motherwell as a right midfielder, obviously now seen as an attacking fullback.
Dazzjw1875
26-06-2022, 07:12 PM
No Dan MacKay or Dylan Tait.
They will more than likely be in the development squad I reckon.
Unseen work
26-06-2022, 07:13 PM
Dissapointed re Mackay and Tait.
Interesting to see Doidge has travelled
Why wouldn't he, whether he's in the managers plans or not, no one has yet made an offer for him, so he's still our player.
IberianHibernian
26-06-2022, 07:15 PM
Think I read here the devt team have a friendly on 1st July . Presumably play players eligible for new U18s plus a few now overage but not in Portugal .
Radge70
26-06-2022, 07:15 PM
Jesus to Arsenal done, 45 million
Should he be working on a Sunday?
They will more than likely be in the development squad I reckon.
That is disappointing if true, never exactly set the heather on fire at Killie, I wonder if Championship is their level, it does happen that players can't make the step up to a bigger club.
FitbaFolkKen
26-06-2022, 07:17 PM
Why wouldn't he, whether he's in the managers plans or not, no one has yet made an offer for him, so he's still our player.
It is interesting from the point of view that his departure has been discussed on the forums, being included in the squad shows that he isn't close to being moved on yet. That is interesting as it provides a bit of clarity on his current situation.
SHODAN
26-06-2022, 07:19 PM
If our top midfielder, striker and club captain are all still out with injury then we still need a lot more in.
hibbyfraelibby
26-06-2022, 07:23 PM
Interesting to see Doidge has travelled
Why shouldn't he have? We have a cup tie on 9th July ans are short of attacking options if he's not in the squad.
Nicho87
26-06-2022, 07:44 PM
Keep doidge fit for his next club id imagine
MWHIBBIES
26-06-2022, 07:45 PM
Keep doidge fit for his next club id imagine
Hopefully keep him fit for our first game in 2 weeks.
Nicho87
26-06-2022, 07:48 PM
Hopefully keep him fit for our first game in 2 weeks.
Can’t see it myself but you never know.
SlickShoes
26-06-2022, 07:49 PM
Interesting Cadden as classed as a defender in the list.
Mitchell is a weird one, came back from his injury for one game near the end and then wasn’t seen again. Hopefully he can recover as I can see him being an important player.
Magennis I hope is just a case of taking it slow and being extra careful.
He had surgery, and at the start of his holiday still had the big recovery boot on, that was 4 weeks ago, since then he’s been walking around normally and has started his rehab to full fitness, I think he’s targeting the regular season for that so I don’t think we will see him for another month.
Libby Hibby
26-06-2022, 07:49 PM
Dissapointed re Mackay and Tait.
I just don’t think either of them are Premiership standard right now.
Heedersnvolleys
26-06-2022, 07:50 PM
That’s disappointing regarding Magennis. I’m sure there were people telling us he was back full training on here as well.
Probably broke down again.
Callum_62
26-06-2022, 07:52 PM
I don't think Maggennis has ever been I full training yet?
Certainly didn't notice any pics from Hibs
Didn't he have surgery at the tale end of the season?
Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk
HoboHarry
26-06-2022, 08:02 PM
I don't think Maggennis has ever been I full training yet?
Certainly didn't notice any pics from Hibs
Didn't he have surgery at the tale end of the season?
Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk
Was that not Paul Hanlon?
Iain G
26-06-2022, 08:03 PM
Should he be working on a Sunday?
He is a carpenter, will probably charge double time for Sunday working 😁
Mr. Wonderful
26-06-2022, 08:05 PM
I don’t think we will replace him we will go with what we have at left back, Mitchell, lewi and the Aussie lad and Cadden can play there too. I’d think we will use the funds to strengthen elsewhere
None of those bring what Doig does. They are actively looking for his replacement
CapitalGreen
26-06-2022, 08:07 PM
Was that not Paul Hanlon?
Both
CapitalGreen
26-06-2022, 08:10 PM
Dissapointed re Mackay and Tait.
When MacKay was signed we were told he was a long term project, he’d hardly even played much for ICT so it shouldn’t be a surprise he isn’t an established first team player for a team with aspirations of third place yet. I’d expect him to head out on a loan again and also possibly feature for the Development squad this season.
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 08:43 PM
Seen this, doesn't really say much other than there was interest.
TODAY, 20:36
Burns fight
Celtic and Hibs are both tracking Ireland under-21 star Darragh Burns.
The St Patrick's Athletic winger is said to be attracting a lot of attention from British clubs, including Premier League side Brighton.
And according to the Irish Independent, Celtic and Hibs were "keen" over the winter on the player whose contract is up at the end of the Irish season.
Shamrock Rovers are another said to be waiting in the wings if a UK club doesn't make a concrete move.
IberianHibernian
26-06-2022, 08:52 PM
Seen this, doesn't really say much other than there was interest.
TODAY, 20:36
Burns fight
Celtic and Hibs are both tracking Ireland under-21 star Darragh Burns.
The St Patrick's Athletic winger is said to be attracting a lot of attention from British clubs, including Premier League side Brighton.
And according to the Irish Independent, Celtic and Hibs were "keen" over the winter on the player whose contract is up at the end of the Irish season.
Shamrock Rovers are another said to be waiting in the wings if a UK club doesn't make a concrete move.Were we not reported to be interested in signing him last autumn ? With Bradley a winger at Dundalk in the same league , we should be able to compare strengths of both players .
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 08:56 PM
Were we not reported to be interested in signing him last autumn ? With Bradley a winger at Dundalk in the same league , we should be able to compare strengths of both players .
We were interested in 2 players and both came to games, one of the players decided to join Celtic and the other we don't seem to have made an offer or Maloney decided he didn't fancy him?
xqnq1875
26-06-2022, 09:12 PM
It’s a massive long shot but I honestly think hibs should try hijack levitt’s move to dundee utd, I’d like to see him replace newell, he seems to be one of these midfielders we commonly have that have 1 good game every 10 games and I think Levitt would be a very good signing
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 09:20 PM
It’s a massive long shot but I honestly think hibs should try hijack levitt’s move to dundee utd, I’d like to see him replace newell, he seems to be one of these midfielders we commonly have that have 1 good game every 10 games and I think Levitt would be a very good signing
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Levitt would be a fantastic signing. I'd love him permanently with a big sell on attached. I still do t think we'd be able to afford him and think he will go to the championship.
Great player with huge potential.
CapitalGreen
26-06-2022, 09:22 PM
It’s a massive long shot but I honestly think hibs should try hijack levitt’s move to dundee utd, I’d like to see him replace newell, he seems to be one of these midfielders we commonly have that have 1 good game every 10 games and I think Levitt would be a very good signing
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If Levitt was a possibility we should definitely be making enquiries.
xqnq1875
26-06-2022, 09:23 PM
Can anyone remember how we were linked with Harry McKirdy a few months back I’m guessing that we must not be interested anymore haven’t heard anything about it in a month or two, shame as well thought he would have been a brilliant signing
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mr. Wonderful
26-06-2022, 09:35 PM
Can anyone remember how we were linked with Harry McKirdy a few months back I’m guessing that we must not be interested anymore haven’t heard anything about it in a month or two, shame as well thought he would have been a brilliant signing
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Wasn't that another of Alan Nixon's rumours? Don't think he's ever got a hibs signing right
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 09:35 PM
Seen this on a random French twitter account
Hibernian soll großes Interesse für Boutaïb haben
Which translates to
Hibernian is said to be very interested in Boutaib.
He seems like a 35 year old 6'3 Moroccan forward playing in the French 2nd division.
Wonder if it is Hibernians of Malta 😁
King Cosell
26-06-2022, 09:45 PM
Seen this on a random French twitter account
Hibernian soll großes Interesse für Boutaïb haben
Which translates to
Hibernian is said to be very interested in Boutaib.
He seems like a 35 year old 6'3 Moroccan forward playing in the French 2nd division.
Wonder if it is Hibernians of Malta 😁
Just turned 35, was playing for Le Havre last season. Solid CV, 26 caps, 9 goals for Morocco.
King Cosell
26-06-2022, 09:50 PM
Just turned 35, was playing for Le Havre last season. Solid CV, 26 caps, 9 goals for Morocco.
Scored against Spain in 2018 World Cup.
CapitalGreen
26-06-2022, 09:52 PM
Seen this on a random French twitter account
Hibernian soll großes Interesse für Boutaïb haben
Which translates to
Hibernian is said to be very interested in Boutaib.
He seems like a 35 year old 6'3 Moroccan forward playing in the French 2nd division.
Wonder if it is Hibernians of Malta 😁
That twitter account is watching someone playing as Paris FC FIFA on Twitch and tweeting what’s happening. https://www.twitch.tv/gamerbrother
04Sauzee
26-06-2022, 09:53 PM
That twitter account is watching someone playing as Paris FC FIFA on Twitch and tweeting what’s happening. https://www.twitch.tv/gamerbrother
🤣 Incredible
ElginHibbie
26-06-2022, 10:03 PM
That twitter account is watching someone playing as Paris FC FIFA on Twitch and tweeting what’s happening. https://www.twitch.tv/gamerbrother
Transfer window threads on here have hit a new with this one
SaulGoodman
26-06-2022, 10:05 PM
That twitter account is watching someone playing as Paris FC FIFA on Twitch and tweeting what’s happening. https://www.twitch.tv/gamerbrother
That is outstanding
CraigHibee
26-06-2022, 10:22 PM
Jesus to Arsenal done, 45 million
Great at crosses apparently
Springbank
27-06-2022, 06:04 AM
That twitter account is watching someone playing as Paris FC FIFA on Twitch and tweeting what’s happening. https://www.twitch.tv/gamerbrother
That's amazing haha
Heard good things about a Freddy Adu on Championship Manager
Champagne quality at Buckfast prices
Maybe he could do a job etc etc
Iain G
27-06-2022, 06:50 AM
Great at crosses apparently
Yeah, nailed on...
McGruber
27-06-2022, 07:08 AM
Why? He's played right back in a four for us several times before and been fine.
Doesn't look like Johnson wants to play with wing backs, and I'd much rather see him at fullback than wide right in a front 3.
Great at getting up and down the line and whipping in crosses, but not exceptionally quick and can't beat a man.
Think he'd be more effective for us as an attacking fullback than a winger based on the way Johnson wants to play.
IMO - I would be wanting better than fine from a starting right back. He has played rIght back before for Oxford and like you say a few times in a four for Hibs. The games he has played for us right of a four hasn't seen us lose a goal from an obvious error or him being run ragged. Those games were also his quietest and most ineffectual for us. No great surprise as his biggest asset is his running power and being a very good ball carrier. He has some engine on him too. Playing in a four he was far less of an attacking threat than McGinn was as he played it deeper - probably because he is not a natural defensive full back and holding his position more. Would also be a bit nervy of him in a four as a full back up againt a quality winger with us under pressure. For my money, and where he has been voted player of the year, his position would be wing back or right midfield - never a full back for me but like I say just my opinion.
McGruber
27-06-2022, 07:21 AM
Why wouldn't he, whether he's in the managers plans or not, no one has yet made an offer for him, so he's still our player.
Why shouldn't he have? We have a cup tie on 9th July ans are short of attacking options if he's not in the squad.
It was interesting to me because I'm a massive fan of Doidge and hoping he gets his fitness back to pre injury and performance up to the season before last. If he can do that he is still a big asset and big player for us - especially with our other forward rota being younger players. I think he offers something the other strikers don't with his physicality.
It might be he was always going - he's our player. Though that sentiment never extended to Tait or MacKay. Those might have been left to the development team but there's a management decision involved there as both were 1st team signings at the time and a number specifically signed to B team have gone.
Also, out a list of 27 - it is only Doidge being rumoured to have been told he won't be in the plans (maybe others have but he is the only one suggested on here)
It's just interesting to me that's all because I carry a candle for the big fella. Maybe he shows up better than his compatriots out there in training and in the friendlies and changes the manager's mind.... that would be interesting.
hibbyfraelibby
27-06-2022, 08:03 AM
Yeah, nailed on...
Wondered when someone would resurrect that oldie...
Iain G
27-06-2022, 08:53 AM
Wondered when someone would resurrect that oldie...
Easter usually :greengrin
hibby rae
27-06-2022, 08:59 AM
Seen this on a random French twitter account
Hibernian soll großes Interesse für Boutaïb haben
Which translates to
Hibernian is said to be very interested in Boutaib.
He seems like a 35 year old 6'3 Moroccan forward playing in the French 2nd division.
Wonder if it is Hibernians of Malta 😁
Why's a French account tweeting in German?
Green Reaper
27-06-2022, 09:00 AM
Easter usually :greengrin
You shroud be banned for that one 😅
Wilson
27-06-2022, 09:16 AM
Why's a French account tweeting in German?
I'm guessing there was no resistance.
GloryGlory
27-06-2022, 09:24 AM
Why's a French account tweeting in German?
:greengrin
hibbyfraelibby
27-06-2022, 09:54 AM
Easter usually :greengrin
You Road your luck with that one
Hibbyradge
27-06-2022, 10:45 AM
You shroud be banned for that one 😅
It'd be a miracle if the puns improved.
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 11:01 AM
Hope we’re looking at someone like Luke McCormick to compete with Magennis for the attacking midfielder role.
23 years old and got 7 goals and 7 assists in league 1 last year.
Greenbeard
27-06-2022, 11:10 AM
Hope we’re looking at someone like Luke McCormick to compete with Magennis for the attacking midfielder role.
23 years old and got 7 goals and 7 assists in league 1 last year.
What's that got to do with Jesus?
Northernhibee
27-06-2022, 11:26 AM
What's that got to do with Jesus?
In terms of a rumour, it’s nailed on.
Souter96Mac
27-06-2022, 11:26 AM
Hope we’re looking at someone like Luke McCormick to compete with Magennis for the attacking midfielder role.
23 years old and got 7 goals and 7 assists in league 1 last year.
Looks like he'd be a great signing, sounds like Bristol rovers are keen on getting back there.
Brightside
27-06-2022, 11:29 AM
I'm assuming its AMG who will be pushing for the number 10 role?
FilipinoHibs
27-06-2022, 11:30 AM
I'm guessing there was no resistance.
Vive le resistance!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance
CapitalGreen
27-06-2022, 11:31 AM
Hope we’re looking at someone like Luke McCormick to compete with Magennis for the attacking midfielder role.
23 years old and got 7 goals and 7 assists in league 1 last year.
I’ll throw another Luke into the mix in Luke Freeman who played under LJ at Bristol City. His contract expires at Sheffield Utd on Thursday so will be looking for a new club.
Since452
27-06-2022, 11:33 AM
I'm assuming its AMG who will be pushing for the number 10 role?
It's more a Rolls Royce of a player we need in the middle.
theonlywayisup
27-06-2022, 11:36 AM
What's the likelihood that we'll see more signings whilst the team are out in Portugal?
Can we assume that we're unlikely to see more signings whilst the team are overseas? Or more likely, if we get guys across to have a look at them at the training base?
bingo70
27-06-2022, 11:39 AM
What's the likelihood that we'll see more signings whilst the team are out in Portugal?
Can we assume that we're unlikely to see more signings whilst the team are overseas? Or more likely, if we get guys across to have a look at them at the training base?
Hearts just signed a boy mid way through their camp in Spain so I don’t see why we couldn’t or wouldn’t.
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 11:39 AM
Aberdeen supporting made has said there’s rumours of them being after Reuven Niemeijer.
Since he’s a attacking midfielder and we’re always linked with the same players I’ll Chuck his name into the mix.
27 years old playing for Rotterdam Excelsior.
2021/2022 - 38 games - 17 goals - 11 assists in the league. An additional 5 goals and 1 assist in cups/playoff matches.
2020/2021 - 38 games - 11 goals - 3 assists
Out of contract on the 30th of June 2022.
xqnq1875
27-06-2022, 11:48 AM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1541386670238380033?s=21&t=HM9ViccKT8FSLA5NRsaYEA
Really hoping we don’t stop after signing the cb, still think we need another 2-3 bodies in
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hhibs
27-06-2022, 11:49 AM
Aberdeen supporting made has said there’s rumours of them being after Reuven Niemeijer.
Since he’s a attacking midfielder and we’re always linked with the same players I’ll Chuck his name into the mix.
27 years old playing for Rotterdam Excelsior.
2021/2022 - 38 games - 17 goals - 11 assists in the league. An additional 5 goals and 1 assist in cups/playoff matches.
2020/2021 - 38 games - 11 goals - 3 assists
Out of contract on the 30th of June 2022.
That does look impressive ,would have thought he would not be cheap, if we were in for him that tells me we must be getting a good fee in,Doig ?
Pretty clear Aberdeen could afford it but sadly too much too soon for us I would think.
DC_Hibs
27-06-2022, 11:49 AM
Hope we’re looking at someone like Luke McCormick to compete with Magennis for the attacking midfielder role.
23 years old and got 7 goals and 7 assists in league 1 last year.
What’s your selection process on which random player name from a list of thousands that you choose to throw out on a regular basis??
Secondly, you’re posting these on a fans forum. Are there secret thoughts that a club employee is sitting refreshing the page waiting to stats check your latest random?
Paulie Walnuts
27-06-2022, 11:50 AM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1541386670238380033?s=21&t=HM9ViccKT8FSLA5NRsaYEA
Really hoping we don’t stop after signing the cb, still think we need another 2-3 bodies in
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Agree.
One centre back and nobody else won’t be good enough to have a succesful season next season imo.
SaulGoodman
27-06-2022, 11:53 AM
What’s your selection process on which random player name from a list of thousands that you choose to throw out on a regular basis??
Secondly, you’re posting these on a fans forum. Are there secret thoughts that a club employee is sitting refreshing the page waiting to stats check your latest random?
What a strange way to have a go at someone. Who pished in your cornflakes?
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 11:53 AM
What’s your selection process on which random player name from a list of thousands that you choose to throw out on a regular basis??
Secondly, you’re posting these on a fans forum. Are there secret thoughts that a club employee is sitting refreshing the page waiting to stats check your latest random?
Lighten up mate.
As you say it’s a fans forum, I watch alot of football so mention some players who I think could do a job.
Heisenberg
27-06-2022, 11:57 AM
Agree.
One centre back and nobody else won’t be good enough to have a succesful season next season imo.
I doubt we’d stop there. Another midfielder and striker will come in when others leave I’d think.
HendoDelivered
27-06-2022, 11:57 AM
Agree.
One centre back and nobody else won’t be good enough to have a succesful season next season imo.
Think it will depend on who goes as well though. If we sell or players go that leaves us short in certain areas, we will 100% make signings
I'm Spartacus
27-06-2022, 12:03 PM
A tad random that our board supported Shaun with buying kids for the B team, now we're taking a totally different approach and singing players aged 30+. It could work very well, now the younger guys have been here and settled in, some experience now layers over the top of that.
McGruber
27-06-2022, 12:04 PM
Agree.
One centre back and nobody else won’t be good enough to have a succesful season next season imo.
It does say & possibly a midfielder though would be secondary. A solid CB and midfielder and we are not far off.
Doesn't mean we are done if there are more outgoings. If Doidge does go they'll bring in a striker you would think
A tad random that our board supported Shaun with buying kids for the B team, now we're taking a totally different approach and singing players aged 30+. It could work very well, now the younger guys have been here and settled in, some experience now layers over the top of that.
We’ve signed more young players than 30+ this window, including some earmarked for the B team
we’re broadly working to the same plan/structure as we were in January, just with a better more experienced manager at the helm
SHODAN
27-06-2022, 12:08 PM
Darragh Burns story being brought up again.
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/sport/celtic-linked-darragh-burns-transfer-24329925
SHODAN
27-06-2022, 12:10 PM
Positions (in likely pecking order, at present), with bold potentially leaving and italics long-term injured:
GK: Marshall, Dabrowski
RB: Miller, Cadden
CB: Porteous, Hanlon, Bushiri, McGregor
LB: Doig, Stevenson, Mitchell
RM: McGeady, MacKay
DM: Kenneh, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Magennis, Newell, Henderson, Campbell, Tait
LM: Tavares
ST: Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen, Bojang, Doidge
That isn't a squad that'll be doing anything notable this season, new defender or not.
matty_f
27-06-2022, 12:12 PM
Positions (in likely pecking order, at present), with bold potentially leaving and italics long-term injured:
GK: Marshall, Dabrowski
RB: Miller, Cadden
CB: Porteous, Hanlon, Bushiri, McGregor
LB: Doig, Stevenson, Mitchell
RM: McGeady, MacKay
DM: Kenneh, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Magennis, Newell, Henderson, Campbell, Tait
LM: Tavares
ST: Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen, Bojang, Doidge
That isn't a squad that'll be doing anything notable this season, new defender or not.
We chatted about what was still needed based on the squad that went to Portugal when we recorded Longbangers last night, and I think we're a centre half, a centre mid, and a striker short.
If Doig goes, we'll need a left back on top of that.
I don't think Bushiri is going anywhere.
Fergus52
27-06-2022, 12:15 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1541386670238380033?s=21&t=HM9ViccKT8FSLA5NRsaYEA
Really hoping we don’t stop after signing the cb, still think we need another 2-3 bodies in
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I can't think of any example in world football over the past 20 years or so where a team has signed basically a whole new starting XI and it has worked out, yet that's what many posters here seem to want.
Too much upheaval in one window is never a good thing as it takes time for the new players to gel and develop relationships etc.
We've already signed a goalkeeper, right back, defensive midfielder, winger, winger/attacking midfielder and a striker/wide forward who will all be expecting to start most weeks based on what we've heard from Johnson. And we're looking to sign a starting CB.
Don't understand the clamour for new centre midfielders at all - we have 8 or so decent options all competing for 2 or 3 places in the team. Players like Newell and JDH have some excellent qualities who I'm hoping a more positive coach like Johnson can get the best out of.
Gordy M
27-06-2022, 12:16 PM
Positions (in likely pecking order, at present), with bold potentially leaving and italics long-term injured:
GK: Marshall, Dabrowski
RB: Miller, Cadden
CB: Porteous, Hanlon, Bushiri, McGregor
LB: Doig, Stevenson, Mitchell
RM: McGeady, MacKay
DM: Kenneh, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Magennis, Newell, Henderson, Campbell, Tait
LM: Tavares
ST: Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen, Bojang, Doidge
That isn't a squad that'll be doing anything notable this season, new defender or not.
Its better than last season and we got to a semi and a final? And id suggest we have a really good manager as well this season. I think we will surprise a few as to ow good we are going to be. Also, i dont think Porteous is going anywhere.
bingo70
27-06-2022, 12:22 PM
We chatted about what was still needed based on the squad that went to Portugal when we recorded Longbangers last night, and I think we're a centre half, a centre mid, and a striker short.
If Doig goes, we'll need a left back on top of that.
I don't think Bushiri is going anywhere.
My concern for this season is our midfield. I thought our midfield last year was terrible and we’ve only added another defensive midfielder, who I think will be excellent. I’m sorry to say but IMO Josh Campbell should be nowhere near our midfield, Joe Newell is too inconsistent and going forward his attempts on goal are absolutely pitiful, Kyle Magennis can’t be relied upon to stay fit and JDH is too similar to what’s already there.
I think we need some quality in centre midfield and without that, I still worry a wee bit about next season. It’s not a lost cause though as I’m hopeful LJ will get more out of those players than Maloney did.
ZitellZeTime
27-06-2022, 12:25 PM
Need to be playing players in the right position. Melkersen is not a left winger.
Yeah I thiink he will look a lot better through the middle with couple on either side of him and hopefully Magennis driving from midfield.
Its more the defence in that list that worries me though, if Porto stays then its inevitable he will get cards accumulated and miss games etc or even **** off and be sold last week of winter window boyle style then we panic buy some huddy.
I'm all for giving Rocky a chance, I remember being told he wasn't fit enough to start with but then Clarke got injured so he got chucked in at the deep end, he got progressively worse instead of better though, although maybe confidence boost with new manager who can work with him better might help, and Hanlon hopefully back to what he used to be and Delfierre might be class **** knows but I thought the plan would be to test him in cup games etc to begin with against smaller teams.
If Porto is out that leaves us only Hanlon, Rocky Delfierre. Hanlon back to his best is a good player, hopefully Johnson can get the best out of Rocky but Imagine both Hanlon and Porto are out at the same time, I think we actually need 2 new CB's maybe even just one on loan thats had a bit of experience down south Johnson knows, cos id be haiving nightmares if both of them were out at same time looking at that squad if we had a few important games coming up.
If Doidge leaves think we need to bring in someone physical whos good in the air, not some random big dude, but one even not that big but can play a liitle too like that Farid boy we had before he got injured from Falkirk.
If Magennis gets injured again thats a worry too but we have so many midfielders like JDH etc not sure they can bring anyone in there just now, think im being a bit greedy. I've never seen this Kenneh play, is he that type of player? I think Newell will look good if things are going well and he has players who give a **** playing with him though.
BlackSheep
27-06-2022, 12:25 PM
Positions (in likely pecking order, at present), with bold potentially leaving and italics long-term injured:
GK: Marshall, Dabrowski
RB: Miller, Cadden
CB: Porteous, Hanlon, Bushiri, McGregor
LB: Doig, Stevenson, Mitchell
RM: McGeady, MacKay
DM: Kenneh, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Magennis, Newell, Henderson, Campbell, Tait
LM: Tavares
ST: Nisbet, Youan, Melkersen, Bojang, Doidge
That isn't a squad that'll be doing anything notable this season, new defender or not.
Mitchell isn’t injured anymore.
B.H.F.C
27-06-2022, 12:27 PM
I can't think of any example in world football over the past 20 years or so where a team has signed basically a whole new starting XI and it has worked out, yet that's what many posters here seem to want.
Too much upheaval in one window is never a good thing as it takes time for the new players to gel and develop relationships etc.
We've already signed a goalkeeper, right back, defensive midfielder, winger, winger/attacking midfielder and a striker/wide forward who will all be expecting to start most weeks based on what we've heard from Johnson. And we're looking to sign a starting CB.
Don't understand the clamour for new centre midfielders at all - we have 8 or so decent options all competing for 2 or 3 places in the team. Players like Newell and JDH have some excellent qualities who I'm hoping a more positive coach like Johnson can get the best out of.
Celtic more or less had a whole new team last season and it didn’t do them any harm. As long as the players you bring in are better than the ones they’re replacing, you’ll more than likely improve.
We needed to do similar this year IMO and I don’t think we’ll stop with a CB as there will more than likely be more players going out the way.
Springbank
27-06-2022, 12:28 PM
My concern for this season is our midfield. I thought our midfield last year was terrible and we’ve only added another defensive midfielder, who I think will be excellent. I’m sorry to say but IMO Josh Campbell should be nowhere near our midfield, Joe Newell is too inconsistent and going forward his attempts on goal are absolutely pitiful, Kyle Magennis can’t be relied upon to stay fit and JDH is too similar to what’s already there.
I think we need some quality in centre midfield and without that, I still worry a wee bit about next season. It’s not a lost cause though as I’m hopeful LJ will get more out of those players than Maloney did.
It's a big season for JDH I think.
I'm one of those fans who would say "would've been happy if he went, but I'll be even happier still if he starts turning on the style & proving me wrong"
But if that's to happen we need to see a lot, lot more from JDH this season.
If I was LJ I'd show JDH a video of the first 5 minutes of his debut at Fir Park (where he came on, started playing a series of one twos, got us up the pitch, won a corner, we win the game) and I'd be saying "that's the JDH we know you can be, and that's the JDH we need you to be - go and show the world what you can bring".
Just no more of the safe sideways pass, please.
matty_f
27-06-2022, 12:30 PM
My concern for this season is our midfield. I thought our midfield last year was terrible and we’ve only added another defensive midfielder, who I think will be excellent. I’m sorry to say but IMO Josh Campbell should be nowhere near our midfield, Joe Newell is too inconsistent and going forward his attempts on goal are absolutely pitiful, Kyle Magennis can’t be relied upon to stay fit and JDH is too similar to what’s already there.
I think we need some quality in centre midfield and without that, I still worry a wee bit about next season. It’s not a lost cause though as I’m hopeful LJ will get more out of those players than Maloney did.
I'm of much the same opinion.
When the podcasts spoke to Lee Johnson, he made a comment about the first pass when we win the ball being a forward one, and I haven't seen that from Joe or Jake who both seemed to have a natural instinct to protect possession with a sideways or backwards pass (albeit they might then look for a return from which they could play forward, but the attach had already slowed by that point)
A lot will depend on how we're set up, of course, but assuming that we have two central midfielders and Kenneh is one, them I think we need a different option than what's already in the squad for the second.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2022, 12:31 PM
Celtic more or less had a whole new team last season and it didn’t do them any harm. As long as the players you bring in are better than the ones they’re replacing, you’ll more than likely improve.
We needed to do similar this year IMO and I don’t think we’ll stop with a CB as there will more than likely be more players going out the way.
Postecoglu also raised the levels of most of the players he inherited. It seems like a lot of posters on here don’t have faith in LJ doing the same with the players he has inherited.
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 12:35 PM
I know there’s a lot of chat about centre mids but I can really see Johnson liking the ones we already have.
Campbell is one I think he’ll love just due to his energy and enthusiasm and for whatever reason I wouldn’t be surprised if Newell became captain.
Our centre mids took stick last season but I put a lot of that down to Maloney and how he made us play, they never had anyone to hit at all.
If we can get a more creative player next to them/Magennis fit I think we’ll be looking good in there.
Centre mids can’t do everything, but now having attackers like McGeady, Youan, Tavares etc should make their job a hell of alot easier.
HUTCHYHIBBY
27-06-2022, 12:37 PM
Easter usually :greengrin
Stop egging each other on with the puns.
matty_f
27-06-2022, 12:42 PM
I know there’s a lot of chat about centre mids but I can really see Johnson liking the ones we already have.
Campbell is one I think he’ll love just due to his energy and enthusiasm and for whatever reason I wouldn’t be surprised if Newell became captain.
Our centre mids took stick last season but I put a lot of that down to Maloney and how he made us play, they never had anyone to hit at all.
If we can get a more creative player next to them/Magennis fit I think we’ll be looking good in there.
Centre mids can’t do everything, but now having attackers like McGeady, Youan, Tavares etc should make their job a hell of alot easier.
The point about Maloney is valid, it may well have been instructions rather than down to the players to slow the play down. Perhaps a better system will suit who we have more.
bingo70
27-06-2022, 12:43 PM
I'm of much the same opinion.
When the podcasts spoke to Lee Johnson, he made a comment about the first pass when we win the ball being a forward one, and I haven't seen that from Joe or Jake who both seemed to have a natural instinct to protect possession with a sideways or backwards pass (albeit they might then look for a return from which they could play forward, but the attach had already slowed by that point)
A lot will depend on how we're set up, of course, but assuming that we have two central midfielders and Kenneh is one, them I think we need a different option than what's already in the squad for the second.
I think Newell should be a better player for us than he has been. I never like to question players effort levels but for him I think I do. I don’t mean in the big games against Hearts or anything, if anything he can be too fired up for them, it’s the smaller games he seems to almost pick and choose when he can be arsed to make an effort to drive the team forward. When Magennis is injured then Newell should be our main man in the centre of midfield but he rarely is. I touched on it earlier as well but he should be getting more goals than he does, he’s lazy and careless when he has the chance of getting a stroke away and that’s no use.
It will be interesting to see if LJ can get a tune out of him, if I was him I’d be reluctant to rely on him however there’s a player in there so I wouldn’t blame LJ if he backs himself to get more out of him.
HoboHarry
27-06-2022, 12:46 PM
Stop egging each other on with the puns.
Oh come now, we can all roll with it.....
Gordy M
27-06-2022, 12:47 PM
I'm of much the same opinion.
When the podcasts spoke to Lee Johnson, he made a comment about the first pass when we win the ball being a forward one, and I haven't seen that from Joe or Jake who both seemed to have a natural instinct to protect possession with a sideways or backwards pass (albeit they might then look for a return from which they could play forward, but the attach had already slowed by that point)
A lot will depend on how we're set up, of course, but assuming that we have two central midfielders and Kenneh is one, them I think we need a different option than what's already in the squad for the second.
Yeh this is the big question, if its a 4-4-2 then id say we have 5 players vying for 2 spaces, JDH, Magennis, Newell, Campbell and Kenneh. Im assuimg mitchell, tavares, mcgeady and elie yohan will be utilised wide or attacking, with Merkleson, Doidge and Nisbet through the middle.
ZitellZeTime
27-06-2022, 12:50 PM
Does anyone know what Killie fans though of MacKay when he was on his loan there? I remember being quite excited when we signed him, I can't really remember seeing him for Killie, says he played 10 games, not sure how many were starts or how he did.
Sane with Dylan Tait, whats he like? Ross was still in charge when we signed him before the couple of loans, and we paid an fee I think, probably not a lot but if we paid a fee for him he must have saw something in him he likes. What type of CM is he?
Cocaine&Caviar
27-06-2022, 12:56 PM
Does anyone know what Killie fans though of MacKay when he was on his loan there? I remember being quite excited when we signed him, I can't really remember seeing him for Killie, says he played 10 games, not sure how many were starts or how he did.
Sane with Dylan Tait, whats he like? Ross was still in charge when we signed him before the couple of loans, and we paid an fee I think, probably not a lot but if we paid a fee for him he must have saw something in him he likes. What type of CM is he?
Mackay: Squad: 14, Starting eleven: 3, Substituted in: 7, On the bench: 4
Tait: Squad: 28, Starting eleven: 21, Substituted in: 6, On the bench: 1
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 12:58 PM
Does anyone know what Killie fans though of MacKay when he was on his loan there? I remember being quite excited when we signed him, I can't really remember seeing him for Killie, says he played 10 games, not sure how many were starts or how he did.
Sane with Dylan Tait, whats he like? Ross was still in charge when we signed him before the couple of loans, and we paid an fee I think, probably not a lot but if we paid a fee for him he must have saw something in him he likes. What type of CM is he?
Unsure on what they thought but I remember being surprised they went to a mcinnes team as I never thought they’d fit his style as he likes slightly more experienced players, especially in that league.
For me Tait is as close as anyone we’ve got to a Magennis type. Can do a bit of everything and isn’t scared of getting stuck in.
Dissapointed and confused he never even made the training camp along with Mackay for Johnson to even have a good look at them.
Don’t know if someone else has already said they need another year on loan and he’s took that advice with one close to being agreed for each player?
Brightside
27-06-2022, 01:00 PM
Mackay: Squad: 14, Starting eleven: 3, Substituted in: 7, On the bench: 4
Tait: Squad: 28, Starting eleven: 21, Substituted in: 6, On the bench: 1
Dylan didnt play much for Killie tho?
JimBHibees
27-06-2022, 01:03 PM
A tad random that our board supported Shaun with buying kids for the B team, now we're taking a totally different approach and singing players aged 30+. It could work very well, now the younger guys have been here and settled in, some experience now layers over the top of that.
Dylan didnt play much for Killie tho?
Watched against United in the cup and thought he looked good. Think he got knee injury after that which kept him out for a while.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2022, 01:08 PM
Dylan didnt play much for Killie tho?
He started the first 3 games but then McInnes brought in Dean Campbell (who he’d worked with at Aberdeen) who played ahead of him and then his season ended prematurely through injury. The Kilmarnock fans were giving him good reviews after his first 2 games and then he had a poor game against Arbroath (along with the rest of his teammates).
AlbertK86
27-06-2022, 01:14 PM
Mitchell isn’t injured anymore.
He is still recovering according to a steric next to his name on squad list for Portugal that was official site
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Leighonel
27-06-2022, 01:14 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1541386670238380033?s=21&t=HM9ViccKT8FSLA5NRsaYEA
Really hoping we don’t stop after signing the cb, still think we need another 2-3 bodies in
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Surely that means we have budget for one more. After that we will need to get players out before signing any others.
I also reckon that doesn't include B team signings.
Hibiza
27-06-2022, 01:15 PM
C'mon , Dylan Levitt being handed to us for a change.
Fergus52
27-06-2022, 01:15 PM
I'm of much the same opinion.
When the podcasts spoke to Lee Johnson, he made a comment about the first pass when we win the ball being a forward one, and I haven't seen that from Joe or Jake who both seemed to have a natural instinct to protect possession with a sideways or backwards pass (albeit they might then look for a return from which they could play forward, but the attach had already slowed by that point)
A lot will depend on how we're set up, of course, but assuming that we have two central midfielders and Kenneh is one, them I think we need a different option than what's already in the squad for the second.
It really depends how much of that is natural instinct and how much of it is coaching.
Even if JDH and Newell are both naturally 'safe' players - Ross and Maloney clearly always instructed their centre mids to retain possession no matter what, even if it means regular sideways and backwards passing.
Johnson has said that he wants his midfielders to look to get the ball in the final third as soon as possible when we get the ball, even if it means losing possession more often. If he can get JDH and Newell doing this more often and coach the safety first mentality out of their heads then I think/hope we'll see a different side to both players this season.
Even if Campbell or Tait go out on loan I cant see us brining another midfielder tbh, but I do back Johnson to improve the midfielders already at the club. Not just the two I've mentioned here but also hopefully Henderson as well.
badabing67
27-06-2022, 01:30 PM
My concern for this season is our midfield. I thought our midfield last year was terrible and we’ve only added another defensive midfielder, who I think will be excellent. I’m sorry to say but IMO Josh Campbell should be nowhere near our midfield, Joe Newell is too inconsistent and going forward his attempts on goal are absolutely pitiful, Kyle Magennis can’t be relied upon to stay fit and JDH is too similar to what’s already there.
I think we need some quality in centre midfield and without that, I still worry a wee bit about next season. It’s not a lost cause though as I’m hopeful LJ will get more out of those players than Maloney did.
If you look at what we have in the squad I do not see any reason not to play Doig and Cadden together in the middle, it is something I would like to see in the preseason friendlies, but i doubt I will see it. I just have a hunch it would work as a option for us.
JimBHibees
27-06-2022, 01:32 PM
C'mon , Dylan Levitt being handed to us for a change.
What does that mean?
Iain G
27-06-2022, 01:34 PM
Newcastle sign Pope, It's Jesus to Arsenal, but St Mirren sign Baccus! :greengrin
GloryGlory
27-06-2022, 01:50 PM
Surely that means we have budget for one more. After that we will need to get players out before signing any others.
I also reckon that doesn't include B team signings.
That's how I see it - as an "as things stand now" update. If we do get acceptable offer(s) for one or more players - Doig, Porteous, Doidge being the most likely - then the fees received and wages released give us the budget to look at more new players.
McGruber
27-06-2022, 01:50 PM
C'mon , Dylan Levitt being handed to us for a change.
Come again?
ZitellZeTime
27-06-2022, 02:02 PM
Unsure on what they thought but I remember being surprised they went to a mcinnes team as I never thought they’d fit his style as he likes slightly more experienced players, especially in that league.
For me Tait is as close as anyone we’ve got to a Magennis type. Can do a bit of everything and isn’t scared of getting stuck in.
Dissapointed and confused he never even made the training camp along with Mackay for Johnson to even have a good look at them.
Don’t know if someone else has already said they need another year on loan and he’s took that advice with one close to being agreed for each player?
Yeah Mccinnes teams are generally like that, but they always have one or two fast non non combatants in the team lol albeit usually a bit older and still a bit more physical than them.
Thats what I wanted to hear about Tait though, I've never seen him player, was hoping he was more a Magennis style than JDH.
I wasn't aware they aren't at the camp either, you're probably right, I was hoping they would be options off the bench next season but I've barely seen them ever play even for other clubs and the staff at the club see a lot more than me so they must feel they need it if thats the case.
NC1875
27-06-2022, 02:04 PM
He started the first 3 games but then McInnes brought in Dean Campbell (who he’d worked with at Aberdeen) who played ahead of him and then his season ended prematurely through injury. The Kilmarnock fans were giving him good reviews after his first 2 games and then he had a poor game against Arbroath (along with the rest of his teammates).
McInnes also signed Declan Glass on loan and barely played him either, I think he just made sure he had plenty of cover incase of injuries etc as they had to win the league.
xqnq1875
27-06-2022, 02:21 PM
C'mon , Dylan Levitt being handed to us for a change.
What do you mean by this mate ?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LeithMike
27-06-2022, 02:21 PM
My concern for this season is our midfield. I thought our midfield last year was terrible and we’ve only added another defensive midfielder, who I think will be excellent. I’m sorry to say but IMO Josh Campbell should be nowhere near our midfield, Joe Newell is too inconsistent and going forward his attempts on goal are absolutely pitiful, Kyle Magennis can’t be relied upon to stay fit and JDH is too similar to what’s already there.
I think we need some quality in centre midfield and without that, I still worry a wee bit about next season. It’s not a lost cause though as I’m hopeful LJ will get more out of those players than Maloney did.Ditto.
If LJ is looking to play 4-3-3 and also play quicker and in transition then we really need a mobile unit in the middle. While he may be able to get a.new tune out of existing players, the balance still looks off to me with too many players who want to sit deep and make passes with not really any who will drive forward or run ahead of the play to find space.
If we ask the current lot to get forward then I think they'd struggle to get back and we'll be easy to play through. Campbell is the only one I've seen getting about the pitch in recent times.
This has been the biggest issue at Hibs since McGinn left and still not been identified and fixed.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
SHODAN
27-06-2022, 02:23 PM
Judging by recent patterns we're not due to get another decent Hibs midfield until 2026. Buckle in, everyone.
Brightside
27-06-2022, 02:38 PM
Judging by recent patterns we're not due to get another decent Hibs midfield until 2026. Buckle in, everyone.
The boy from Leeds is a proper no6. I'll be surprised if he doesnt make that position his own. That then frees up the other 2 to be more dynamic and attack minded. Lots of potential options
bingo70
27-06-2022, 02:43 PM
The boy from Leeds is a proper no6. I'll be surprised if he doesnt make that position his own. That then frees up the other 2 to be more dynamic and attack minded. Lots of potential options
I suppose that’s where we’re going into the unknown with the current midfielders. They might be able to do that role but will they be any good at it?
Brightside
27-06-2022, 02:47 PM
I suppose that’s where we’re going into the unknown with the current midfielders. They might be able to do that role but will they be any good at it?
Yep. I'm expecting AMG to be the full out no10.... then one of Newell or JDH up there with him, then hopefully Kylo at some point soon. We dont have long to wait to get an idea of formations etc
We chatted about what was still needed based on the squad that went to Portugal when we recorded Longbangers last night, and I think we're a centre half, a centre mid, and a striker short.
If Doig goes, we'll need a left back on top of that.
I don't think Bushiri is going anywhere.
I'm not sure how you can look at that list and think we need a centre mid (7 players plus mcgeady vying for 3 places) ahead of wide forwards (3 players, one mcgeady who might play 10 and one tavares who has never played top fight football, vying for 2 places). If we are playing 433 then we definitely need another winger/wide forward.
Agree centre half needed plus doidge replacement if he goes
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 03:10 PM
I’m not convinced we’ll see McGeady playing behind the striker/attacking mid.
I can see him wanting more energy in that position and keeping McGeady high and wide out left to create.
truehibernian
27-06-2022, 03:22 PM
Back line need another centre half, and a left back once Josh goes. Up top we’ll need a physical striker to compliment the other three (once Doidge leaves). Those areas are looking strong I have to say, albeit three of them are unknown quantities - but I’m excited to see them and what they bring to the front area alongside McGeady.
That midfield is still an injury or two away from being really poor. Can’t rely on KM as he’s broken too often, similarly can’t expect the new lad from Leeds to be firing every game - that leaves pretty much the same midfield we had last season which simply isn’t good enough. The thought of a JDH, Newell and Campbell midfield three gives me the fear. Another energetic, creative midfielder is a must. I’d be moving Campbell on, he’s nowhere near good enough. Henderson may flourish but would be great to get someone in with real drive through the middle.
Paloschi
27-06-2022, 03:27 PM
I’m not convinced we’ll see McGeady playing behind the striker/attacking mid.
I can see him wanting more energy in that position and keeping McGeady high and wide out left to create.
I think the grand plan when everyone is fit is a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1. Starters in bold.
Marshall/Dabrowski
Cadden/Miller
Porto/Bushiri
New cb/Hanlon
Doig/Stevenson
Magennis/JDH
Newell/Kenneh
McGeady/Henderson
Tavares/Hauge
Nisbet/Melkerson
Youan/Mitchell
Squad is looking good now.
Brightside
27-06-2022, 03:34 PM
I think the grand plan when everyone is fit is a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1. Starters in bold.
Marshall/Dabrowski
Cadden/Miller
Porto/Bushiri
New cb/Hanlon
Doig/Stevenson
Magennis/JDH
Newell/Kenneh
McGeady/Henderson
Tavares/Hauge
Nisbet/Melkerson
Youan/Mitchell
Squad is looking good now.
Kenneh will be a starter i think. I like the front 3.
The Spaceman
27-06-2022, 03:52 PM
I think the grand plan when everyone is fit is a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1. Starters in bold.
Marshall/Dabrowski
Cadden/Miller
Porto/Bushiri
New cb/Hanlon
Doig/Stevenson
Magennis/JDH
Newell/Kenneh
McGeady/Henderson
Tavares/Hauge
Nisbet/Melkerson
Youan/Mitchell
Squad is looking good now.
Agreed - if I was being picky, would like a bit more pace through midfield and certainly a new (ideally big-name) CB.
Hibbyradge
27-06-2022, 03:56 PM
It's more a Rolls Royce of a player we need in the middle.
We can't a Ford that type of player.
04Sauzee
27-06-2022, 03:57 PM
Agreed - if I was being picky, would like a bit more pace through midfield and certainly a new (ideally big-name) CB.
Fairly big name Sotiris Papagiannopoulos
hibbyfraelibby
27-06-2022, 04:17 PM
We can't a Ford that type of player.
...especially if we are Reliant on him
SaulGoodman
27-06-2022, 04:20 PM
Fairly big name Sotiris Papagiannopoulos
That’s certainly a big name, not very realistic though 😂
One Day Soon
27-06-2022, 04:42 PM
Does McGeady take free kicks? If not who is our dead ball specialist?
CentreLine
27-06-2022, 04:44 PM
Does McGeady take free kicks? If not who is our dead ball specialist?
He certainly used to and very effectively. Hope he’s still on it
FilipinoHibs
27-06-2022, 04:45 PM
We can't a Ford that type of player.
What kind of Subaru after ?
Hibbyradge
27-06-2022, 04:46 PM
What kind of Subaru after ?
You need to take a Seat after that one.
Stevie Reid
27-06-2022, 04:47 PM
Does McGeady take free kicks? If not who is our dead ball specialist?
Think there were a few free kicks in the highlight reel that Sunderland posted when he left.
Mcbizz1998
27-06-2022, 04:47 PM
He certainly used to and very effectively. Hope he’s still on it
Yes. He scored some beauties for Sunderland.
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 04:58 PM
From the clips posted by the club Hauge looks like he’ll be player of the season 🤣
CapitalGreen
27-06-2022, 05:09 PM
Does McGeady take free kicks? If not who is our dead ball specialist?
Yes, he’s very good at them and corner kicks too.
Paulie Walnuts
27-06-2022, 05:09 PM
I'm not sure how you can look at that list and think we need a centre mid (7 players plus mcgeady vying for 3 places) ahead of wide forwards (3 players, one mcgeady who might play 10 and one tavares who has never played top fight football, vying for 2 places). If we are playing 433 then we definitely need another winger/wide forward.
Agree centre half needed plus doidge replacement if he goes
For me we’ve got plenty of centre midfielders but there’s a complete lack of quality. It’s 5 players that never offered nearly enough last season and Kenneh who’s never played first team football.
Henderson, Newell, JDH and Campbell never offered nearly enough in terms of quality and Magennis is simply unreliable. Going with a core of centre midfielders that let us down so badly and an untested laddie would be madness in my eyes.
We can have as many as we want, but we need quality in there regardless of how many we have or we’ll struggle again big time in there imo.
ancient hibee
27-06-2022, 05:19 PM
If our midfield is anything like last year’s we’ll be relegation fodder.
JohnM1875
27-06-2022, 05:23 PM
From the clips posted by the club Hauge looks like he’ll be player of the season 🤣
😂 definitely, he's looked class. Though Newell was mentioning Runar was the first player to get the McGeady meg treatment.
HoboHarry
27-06-2022, 05:26 PM
We can't a Ford that type of player.
Depends really - who's at the wheel?
Brightside
27-06-2022, 05:28 PM
If our midfield is anything like last year’s we’ll be relegation fodder.
Yes of course we will. 😂
Hibee Mac
27-06-2022, 05:31 PM
100% we still need another quality midfielder if we are planning to play 3 in there.
Henderson is not good enough to start, Magennis is perma-injured, Campbell not good enough. That leaves us with Newell, JDH and Kenneh (assuming he's good) and no room for injuries.
The same logic applies to CF and CB to be honest, we'll regret it if we don't strengthen those positions as they're already light.
aberhibsfc
27-06-2022, 05:43 PM
Looking forward to getting Nisbet, Mitchell and Magennis fit and getting a look at our new signings. I'd also like to see more of Melkersen and Hauge. I would like to get a look at Tait. Disappointed Clark was pulled, that's the problem with loans. Would have liked to hang onto Sylvester. I think Marshall's experience will help our defence and believe McGeady should likely be our free kick/corner taker.
Mr. Wonderful
27-06-2022, 05:43 PM
100% we still need another quality midfielder if we are planning to play 3 in there.
Henderson is not good enough to start, Magennis is perma-injured, Campbell not good enough. That leaves us with Newell, JDH and Kenneh (assuming he's good) and no room for injuries.
The same logic applies to CF and CB to be honest, we'll regret it if we don't strengthen those positions as they're already light.
Think you might be pleasantly surprised by Hendo once we have pace to stretch teams with
McGruber
27-06-2022, 05:44 PM
I think the grand plan when everyone is fit is a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1. Starters in bold.
Marshall/Dabrowski
Cadden/Miller
Porto/Bushiri
New cb/Hanlon
Doig/Stevenson
Magennis/JDH
Newell/Kenneh
McGeady/Henderson
Tavares/Hauge
Nisbet/Melkerson
Youan/Mitchell
Squad is looking good now.
Suspect both Miller and Kenneh are here to play.
Like the front 3 though with Nisbet injured until later in the year and Melkerson the replacement then becomes quite young and inexperienced.
A bit crass Hanlon losing his place to an empty jersey for my liking. He starts for me until we have someone better in the building
Paloschi
27-06-2022, 05:51 PM
Suspect both Miller and Kenneh are here to play.
Like the front 3 though with Nisbet injured until later in the year and Melkerson the replacement then becomes quite young and inexperienced.
A bit crass Hanlon losing his place to an empty jersey for my liking. He starts for me until we have someone better in the building
I suspect the will with injuries/rotation but both are young and have more experienced heads in their positions. Regarding Hanlon - I am just speculating about what the club is planning and I think if we sign a cb it will be to partner Porto and not warm the bench. This automatically leaves Hanlon fighting for his spot. LJ won’t have the same sentiments as the fans.
HoboHarry
27-06-2022, 05:54 PM
I suspect the will with injuries/rotation but both are young and have more experienced heads in their positions. Regarding Hanlon - I am just speculating about what the club is planning and I think if we sign a cb it will be to partner Porto and not warm the bench. This automatically leaves Hanlon fighting for his spot. LJ won’t have the same sentiments as the fans.
I'd be a little surprised if Porteous is still with us next season.
wookie70
27-06-2022, 06:10 PM
Think you might be pleasantly surprised by Hendo once we have pace to stretch teams with
Hope so, but don't see it myself. He reminds me of a less effective Scott Allan but more easily dispossessed and just as poor off the ball. He may improve but I doubt he will be consistently good,
GreenPJ
27-06-2022, 06:25 PM
Think you might be pleasantly surprised by Hendo once we have pace to stretch teams with
Agreed
Since452
27-06-2022, 06:32 PM
Hope so, but don't see it myself. He reminds me of a less effective Scott Allan but more easily dispossessed and just as poor off the ball. He may improve but I doubt he will be consistently good,
I agree. Just looks well below the standard we need. Another, like Rocky, who came in to a toiling side with an inexperienced manager so I'm happy give him the benefit of the doubt.
easty
27-06-2022, 06:46 PM
I suspect the will with injuries/rotation but both are young and have more experienced heads in their positions. Regarding Hanlon - I am just speculating about what the club is planning and I think if we sign a cb it will be to partner Porto and not warm the bench. This automatically leaves Hanlon fighting for his spot. LJ won’t have the same sentiments as the fans.
What sentiments do you mean?
I don’t think any Hibs manager has picked players on sentiment.
Fergus52
27-06-2022, 06:46 PM
For me we’ve got plenty of centre midfielders but there’s a complete lack of quality. It’s 5 players that never offered nearly enough last season and Kenneh who’s never played first team football.
Henderson, Newell, JDH and Campbell never offered nearly enough in terms of quality and Magennis is simply unreliable. Going with a core of centre midfielders that let us down so badly and an untested laddie would be madness in my eyes.
We can have as many as we want, but we need quality in there regardless of how many we have or we’ll struggle again big time in there imo.
All of them had relatively poor seasons last year, but I strongly disagree that they have little to offer us.
JDH was statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league last season in terms of tackles and interceptions per game - think it will be him and Kenneh competing for the deepest role in midfield depending on form and the opposition. His lack of forward passes was frustrating but I hope Johnson can coach that out of him.
On technical ability Newell is one of the best midfielders outside of the old firm. He can be inconsistent and tends to slow the game down a bit too much, but in a fast paced system with wingers and other runners from midfield around him I think he'll look a lot better this season and Johnson will hopefully get him to take more risks on the ball cause he definitely has the ability to do so.
Similarly with Henderson, I think he has the potential to shine in a more positive attacking system. Was poor last season but he's proven he can play at a high level, anyone saying he can't cut it should go watch the Celtic Betis highlights where he was excellent. They are a far better side than the majority of the teams we'll be facing in out league.
Campbell could probably do with a loan away, but I'd be happy enough with him being 6th choice for central midfield behind the three I've mentioned, Kenneh and Magennis.
andrew70
27-06-2022, 06:50 PM
Seen this, doesn't really say much other than there was interest.
TODAY, 20:36
Burns fight
Celtic and Hibs are both tracking Ireland under-21 star Darragh Burns.
The St Patrick's Athletic winger is said to be attracting a lot of attention from British clubs, including Premier League side Brighton.
And according to the Irish Independent, Celtic and Hibs were "keen" over the winter on the player whose contract is up at the end of the Irish season.
Shamrock Rovers are another said to be waiting in the wings if a UK club doesn't make a concrete move.
He’s live on LOITV now playing against Shamrock Rovers in another Dublin derby. Be interesting to see how he plays.
McGruber
27-06-2022, 06:54 PM
Hope so, but don't see it myself. He reminds me of a less effective Scott Allan but more easily dispossessed and just as poor off the ball. He may improve but I doubt he will be consistently good,
Tend to agree, plays in fits and starts and doesn't affect the games as much as he should. I had him placed in my mind how he was like then watched him turn in a brilliant performance in the semi final and was my MOM. The challenge for him is reaching that level consistently - he has the talent
04Sauzee
27-06-2022, 07:02 PM
So can we start speculating on who we may be signing as our CB?😁
Will it be someone from these shores or will we go abroad? Someone young or an older head?
Ronniekirk
27-06-2022, 07:13 PM
[QUOTE=Mr. Wonderful;7006055]Think you might be pleasantly surprised by Hendo once we have pace to stretch teams with[/QUOTE
A good preseason with new formation may see us get more from him and hope he has been doing extra work in the gym to bulk up a bit
JimBHibees
27-06-2022, 07:15 PM
Tend to agree, plays in fits and starts and doesn't affect the games as much as he should. I had him placed in my mind how he was like then watched him turn in a brilliant performance in the semi final and was my MOM. The challenge for him is reaching that level consistently - he has the talent
Totally agree really like Henderson and he has the talent however definitely has to step up consistently this season.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2022, 07:17 PM
So can we start speculating on who we may be signing as our CB?😁
Will it be someone from these shores or will we go abroad? Someone young or an older head?
- Livi anticipating bids for Jack Firzwater
- Bailey Wright contract expiring at Sunderland
- Jamie Hamilton contract expiring at Hamilton
Souter96Mac
27-06-2022, 07:19 PM
So can we start speculating on who we may be signing as our CB?😁
Will it be someone from these shores or will we go abroad? Someone young or an older head?
Couple of names who have been mentioned before:
Liam Lindsay
Stuart Findlay
Cedric Kipre
Souter96Mac
27-06-2022, 07:22 PM
- Livi anticipating bids for Jack Firzwater
- Bailey Wright contract expiring at Sunderland
- Jamie Hamilton contract expiring at Hamilton
LJ signed Bailey Wright for both Bristol City and Sunderland, obviously a fan of him. Could be a good chance if Sunderland don't offer him a new deal
The Modfather
27-06-2022, 07:28 PM
- Livi anticipating bids for Jack Firzwater
- Bailey Wright contract expiring at Sunderland
- Jamie Hamilton contract expiring at Hamilton
I take it Hamilton hasn’t progressed in the last couple of years if he’s not been snapped up on a pre contract before now. He was rumoured to be being watched by Liverpool and looked a real prospect, if still quite raw, when he broke through at 17.
Brightside
27-06-2022, 07:33 PM
All of them had relatively poor seasons last year, but I strongly disagree that they have little to offer us.
JDH was statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league last season in terms of tackles and interceptions per game - think it will be him and Kenneh competing for the deepest role in midfield depending on form and the opposition. His lack of forward passes was frustrating but I hope Johnson can coach that out of him.
On technical ability Newell is one of the best midfielders outside of the old firm. He can be inconsistent and tends to slow the game down a bit too much, but in a fast paced system with wingers and other runners from midfield around him I think he'll look a lot better this season and Johnson will hopefully get him to take more risks on the ball cause he definitely has the ability to do so.
Similarly with Henderson, I think he has the potential to shine in a more positive attacking system. Was poor last season but he's proven he can play at a high level, anyone saying he can't cut it should go watch the Celtic Betis highlights where he was excellent. They are a far better side than the majority of the teams we'll be facing in out league.
Campbell could probably do with a loan away, but I'd be happy enough with him being 6th choice for central midfield behind the three I've mentioned, Kenneh and Magennis.
Excellent post.
jacomo
27-06-2022, 07:42 PM
All of them had relatively poor seasons last year, but I strongly disagree that they have little to offer us.
JDH was statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league last season in terms of tackles and interceptions per game - think it will be him and Kenneh competing for the deepest role in midfield depending on form and the opposition. His lack of forward passes was frustrating but I hope Johnson can coach that out of him.
On technical ability Newell is one of the best midfielders outside of the old firm. He can be inconsistent and tends to slow the game down a bit too much, but in a fast paced system with wingers and other runners from midfield around him I think he'll look a lot better this season and Johnson will hopefully get him to take more risks on the ball cause he definitely has the ability to do so.
Similarly with Henderson, I think he has the potential to shine in a more positive attacking system. Was poor last season but he's proven he can play at a high level, anyone saying he can't cut it should go watch the Celtic Betis highlights where he was excellent. They are a far better side than the majority of the teams we'll be facing in out league.
Campbell could probably do with a loan away, but I'd be happy enough with him being 6th choice for central midfield behind the three I've mentioned, Kenneh and Magennis.
:agree:
I’m pretty confident we will play better this season, the nonsense Maloney insisted on didn’t suit anybody apart from Cadden maybe.
But if Kyle Magennis isn’t fit we definitely need another option in central midfield, I think Josh Campbell should probably move on tbh.
eastmainsmsh
27-06-2022, 07:42 PM
Steven caulker available
NorthNorfolkHFC
27-06-2022, 07:47 PM
I think the grand plan when everyone is fit is a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1. Starters in bold.
Marshall/Dabrowski
Cadden/Miller
Porto/Bushiri
New cb/Hanlon
Doig/Stevenson
Magennis/JDH
Newell/Kenneh
McGeady/Henderson
Tavares/Hauge
Nisbet/Melkerson
Youan/Mitchell
Squad is looking good now.
I still think we are short. I agree it’s looking better.
Big question mark regarding Doig, in which case Stevenson is our only recognised LB.
Less of a question mark surrounding Porto, leaves us with only two CB’s though.
Of our four midfielders, two were very poor last season and score very little goals. Add to that Magennis isn’t even close to fit, and we don’t know how many games he’ll play.
Same can be said for front players. Jury still out on Melkerson. Nisbet isn’t fit and Hauge was originally signed for the development squad so I don’t know why he’s been included?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
CapitalGreen
27-06-2022, 07:49 PM
Steven caulker available
Played together with LJ at Bristol City in 2010/11 🤔
B.H.F.C
27-06-2022, 08:05 PM
I still think we are short. I agree it’s looking better.
Big question mark regarding Doig, in which case Stevenson is our only recognised LB.
Less of a question mark surrounding Porto, leaves us with only two CB’s though.
Of our four midfielders, two were very poor last season and score very little goals. Add to that Magennis isn’t even close to fit, and we don’t know how many games he’ll play.
Same can be said for front players. Jury still out on Melkerson. Nisbet isn’t fit and Hauge was originally signed for the development squad so I don’t know why he’s been included?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Hauge looks very much part of the first team squad going by the videos Hibs have been putting up from Portugal.
There’s definitely a place available on the right wing. Given he’s there and McKay isn’t, he must be getting a chance to push his way in.
eastmainsmsh
27-06-2022, 08:11 PM
Played together with LJ at Bristol City in 2010/11 🤔
Think so been playing in turkey decent stopper 30 now
04Sauzee
27-06-2022, 08:12 PM
Gogic looks like he's signing for Dundee Utd.
hhibs
27-06-2022, 08:18 PM
Hauge looks very much part of the first team squad going by the videos Hibs have been putting up from Portugal.
There’s definitely a place available on the right wing. Given he’s there and McKay isn’t, he must be getting a chance to push his way in.
Saw those videos as well ,short time to judge but certainly looked the part.
Smartie
27-06-2022, 08:30 PM
If our midfield is anything like last year’s we’ll be relegation fodder.
This isn’t anything like as crazy as it sounds to some.
We have lots of constituent parts but it’s hard to make a solid, reliable unit out of those parts. We’ve seen a fair bit of most of these players and we’ve seen them come second best to the poorest teams in the league on many occasions.
Chuck in a few doubts about who is likely to be playing CB for us, then the fact that some are suggesting that Nisbet plays in the middle of a 3 and you’re starting to see a lot of mistakes being repeated.
It’s weird to call it at this point. A CB, another midfielder and a striker coming in, Porto and Doig staying, Kenneh makes an impact and Magennis stays fit and I think we’ve got a side that can make a decent tilt at 3rd.
A few injuries and some poor business between now and the end of the window and we could be back where we were last season - only without the decent haul of points accrued in August and September ie in deep, deep trouble.
There’s probably about 8 league places up for grabs based on a handful of signings.
All of them had relatively poor seasons last year, but I strongly disagree that they have little to offer us.
JDH was statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league last season in terms of tackles and interceptions per game - think it will be him and Kenneh competing for the deepest role in midfield depending on form and the opposition. His lack of forward passes was frustrating but I hope Johnson can coach that out of him.
On technical ability Newell is one of the best midfielders outside of the old firm. He can be inconsistent and tends to slow the game down a bit too much, but in a fast paced system with wingers and other runners from midfield around him I think he'll look a lot better this season and Johnson will hopefully get him to take more risks on the ball cause he definitely has the ability to do so.
Similarly with Henderson, I think he has the potential to shine in a more positive attacking system. Was poor last season but he's proven he can play at a high level, anyone saying he can't cut it should go watch the Celtic Betis highlights where he was excellent. They are a far better side than the majority of the teams we'll be facing in out league.
Campbell could probably do with a loan away, but I'd be happy enough with him being 6th choice for central midfield behind the three I've mentioned, Kenneh and Magennis.
Completely agree
xqnq1875
27-06-2022, 08:57 PM
Couple of names who have been mentioned before:
Liam Lindsay
Stuart Findlay
Cedric Kipre
No chance we get kipre rangers we’re wanting him a week ago and West Brom want no less than 1mil, however Lindsay and Findlay are both definitely obtainable I’d personally prefer Lindsay over Findlay but I’d be happy with either
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Paulie Walnuts
27-06-2022, 09:00 PM
All of them had relatively poor seasons last year, but I strongly disagree that they have little to offer us.
JDH was statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league last season in terms of tackles and interceptions per game - think it will be him and Kenneh competing for the deepest role in midfield depending on form and the opposition. His lack of forward passes was frustrating but I hope Johnson can coach that out of him.
On technical ability Newell is one of the best midfielders outside of the old firm. He can be inconsistent and tends to slow the game down a bit too much, but in a fast paced system with wingers and other runners from midfield around him I think he'll look a lot better this season and Johnson will hopefully get him to take more risks on the ball cause he definitely has the ability to do so.
Similarly with Henderson, I think he has the potential to shine in a more positive attacking system. Was poor last season but he's proven he can play at a high level, anyone saying he can't cut it should go watch the Celtic Betis highlights where he was excellent. They are a far better side than the majority of the teams we'll be facing in out league.
Campbell could probably do with a loan away, but I'd be happy enough with him being 6th choice for central midfield behind the three I've mentioned, Kenneh and Magennis.
Fingers crossed you’re right but we’ve seen enough of them all other than Magennis to say they aren’t all that. I don’t think Newell is anywhere near one of the best centre mids in the league out with the OF either. Infact I don’t even think he’s good enough to start every week for us and don’t think he offers anywhere near enough.
JDH whilst his stats might be decent, I think he was a major part of the problem in our midfield last year and his forward play is really, really poor.
Campbell just isn’t at the standard required.
Magennis is never fit and the way things going I’m going to presume he won’t be fit for the start of the season since he’s still recovering from injury.
Fingers crossed they improve significantly next season because last season they were very poor imo.
Hibbyradge
27-06-2022, 09:26 PM
If our midfield is anything like last year’s we’ll be relegation fodder.
Who was the midfield when we finished 3rd?
Ozyhibby
27-06-2022, 09:29 PM
Who was the midfield when we finished 3rd?
Gogic and Newall?
Personally haven’t changed my mind that we need another centre mid and that Newall should be a back up. Hopefully Magennis gets himself fit otherwise we’ll have the same problems as last season. It’s a key area of the pitch and they have been brutal in there for more than a year now.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hibbyradge
27-06-2022, 09:32 PM
Gogic and Newall?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
So because we parted ways with Gogic, we'll be relegation fodder?
xqnq1875
27-06-2022, 09:33 PM
Newell and jdh just do not work next to each other at all I still think we need to bring in a new cm that will actually do something with the ball other than pass it sidewards all game like either jdh or newell
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ozyhibby
27-06-2022, 09:39 PM
So because we parted ways with Gogic, we'll be relegation fodder?
I never said that? I don’t rate Newall though. If new manager makes same mistake as the last two and sticks with him then I think he’ll go the same way as those two.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Smartie
27-06-2022, 09:52 PM
Who was the midfield when we finished 3rd?
Gogic was a mainstay, Irvine was a big player during the 2nd half of the season, Hallberg flitted in and out.
Newell was the only one who has been a constant over the 2 seasons.
The midfield was the weakness when we finished 3rd. Lots of goals from Nisbet, Boyle and Doidge and a defence that started the season brilliantly.
The Newell, JDH, Magennis midfield looked the part - as close as we’ve seen to having something greater than the sum of its parts in recent years. Other than those 3 playing together the midfield unit was a disaster last season.
Hibbyradge
27-06-2022, 09:52 PM
I never said that? I don’t rate Newall though. If new manager makes same mistake as the last two and sticks with him then I think he’ll go the same way as those two.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No, not you.
I initially replied to Ancient Hibby who said we'd be relegation fodder.
xqnq1875
27-06-2022, 11:21 PM
News outlets like record sport are saying we’re only wanting 1 more player, surely not eh we genuinely still need about 3-4 more experienced players in as well as I can still see doidge and doig leaving
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Unseen work
27-06-2022, 11:44 PM
News outlets like record sport are saying we’re only wanting 1 more player, surely not eh we genuinely still need about 3-4 more experienced players in as well as I can still see doidge and doig leaving
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Think it’s the clever way of the club saying there won’t be a signing every week now like there has been so fans aren’t expecting it.
Like you say we’ll probably bring in a centre back, centre mid and potentially replacements for Doidge, Porteous and Doig.
The there will be the obligatory TDD signing 😁
Lots can change in the next 2 months.
HoboHarry
27-06-2022, 11:48 PM
News outlets like record sport are saying we’re only wanting 1 more player, surely not eh we genuinely still need about 3-4 more experienced players in as well as I can still see doidge and doig leaving
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If the Record told me it was raining I'd look out the window to check for myself.
Haymaker
27-06-2022, 11:54 PM
Griffiths is still available.
HoboHarry
28-06-2022, 12:06 AM
Griffiths is still available.
Which is an absolute tragedy in football terms.
xqnq1875
28-06-2022, 01:18 AM
Griffiths is still available.
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CentreLine
28-06-2022, 05:33 AM
Which is an absolute tragedy in football terms.
It is. But if he is as serious about being fit as has been reported then he will be an absolute gift to some club. Could and should get himself back in the reckoning for Scotland too. I think he is too much of a risk for us sadly as his commitment seems always to come and go.
OldEast
28-06-2022, 05:37 AM
It is. But if he is as serious about being fit as has been reported then he will be an absolute gift to some club. Could and should get himself back in the reckoning for Scotland too. I think he is too much of a risk for us sadly as his commitment seems always to come and go.
In what way would it be a risk? That he wouldn't stay fit? Wouldn't score goals? He'd upset some judgemental fans?
He'd jump at a one year contract.
Sorry missed your last few words about commitment. I'd take him for an initial year.
MWHIBBIES
28-06-2022, 05:40 AM
It is. But if he is as serious about being fit as has been reported then he will be an absolute gift to some club. Could and should get himself back in the reckoning for Scotland too. I think he is too much of a risk for us sadly as his commitment seems always to come and go.
He's a risk for the likes of Falkirk. Absolute no go for us for a dozen reasons.
Since452
28-06-2022, 05:54 AM
People have got to be at it if they are suggesting Griffiths
weecounty hibby
28-06-2022, 05:58 AM
There is absolutely no chance that Griffiths will be anywhere near Easter Road other than as a fan. He couldn't get fit and motivated to play for a team going for 10 titles in a row, playing in Europe and being paid probably about 20k per week. He was then pish for Dundee and even worse pish for Falkirk in the 3rd tier of Scottish football.
OldEast
28-06-2022, 05:59 AM
People have got to be at it if they are suggesting Griffiths
I'm not suggesting him but neither would I be so triggered as some. If the club were to approach him (which I'm certain they won't) I would trust their judgement and whatever deal was agreed.
Turkish Green
28-06-2022, 06:33 AM
There is absolutely no chance that Griffiths will be anywhere near Easter Road other than as a fan. He couldn't get fit and motivated to play for a team going for 10 titles in a row, playing in Europe and being paid probably about 20k per week. He was then pish for Dundee and even worse pish for Falkirk in the 3rd tier of Scottish football.
Sadly people are remembering Griffiths "as was" rather than "as is" . His motivation and fitness have gone and they are the most difficult traits to regain. Scrapheap beckons.
McGeady should be the only old ex-Celt arriving.
jakeshibs
28-06-2022, 06:46 AM
Fingers crossed you’re right but we’ve seen enough of them all other than Magennis to say they aren’t all that. I don’t think Newell is anywhere near one of the best centre mids in the league out with the OF either. Infact I don’t even think he’s good enough to start every week for us and don’t think he offers anywhere near enough.
JDH whilst his stats might be decent, I think he was a major part of the problem in our midfield last year and his forward play is really, really poor.
Campbell just isn’t at the standard required.
Magennis is never fit and the way things going I’m going to presume he won’t be fit for the start of the season since he’s still recovering from injury.
Fingers crossed they improve significantly next season because last season they were very poor imo.
Totally agree with the above statement and think we need a ball winner in the centre of the park and a midfielder who can turn defence into an attack quickly
Brightside
28-06-2022, 06:55 AM
In what way would it be a risk? That he wouldn't stay fit? Wouldn't score goals? He'd upset some judgemental fans?
He'd jump at a one year contract.
Sorry missed your last few words about commitment. I'd take him for an initial year.
It’s a risk due to him being rubbish for the last few years.
Brightside
28-06-2022, 06:57 AM
Totally agree with the above statement and think we need a ball winner in the centre of the park and a midfielder who can turn defence into an attack quickly
Kennah, JDH and Newell are all prolific ball winners. Turning defence into attack quickly will be the challenge. But all those players are very good at winning the ball. Of that there is zero doubt.
Hibernian Verse
28-06-2022, 06:57 AM
Totally agree with the above statement and think we need a ball winner in the centre of the park and a midfielder who can turn defence into an attack quickly
Kenneh is a ball winner by all accounts.
Paulie Walnuts
28-06-2022, 07:09 AM
Kenneh is a ball winner by all accounts.
Kenneh has never played first team football.
I like the sound of him but we shouldn’t be counting on a 19 year old who’s never played first team football to fix what was a disaster of a midfield last season.
CapitalGreen
28-06-2022, 07:21 AM
Sadly people are remembering Griffiths "as was" rather than "as is" . His motivation and fitness have gone and they are the most difficult traits to regain. Scrapheap beckons.
McGeady should be the only old ex-Celt arriving.
Marshall?
truehibernian
28-06-2022, 07:24 AM
In what way would it be a risk? That he wouldn't stay fit? Wouldn't score goals? He'd upset some judgemental fans?
He'd jump at a one year contract.
Sorry missed your last few words about commitment. I'd take him for an initial year.
Leigh has lost the hunger to play at the top level, which is always sad to see - undoubted talent, top striker, instinctive finisher. But we’ve seen it in many players over the years. Too much, too soon, hunger diminishes and they stray off the field - never to get back to that level they’re more than capable of.
It’s off the pitch that always worries me about Leigh, hence the reason I wouldn’t want him back at Hibs. Far too much of a risk and is now in the ‘too difficult to manage’ bracket. I actually feel sad writing that, as I loved him at Hibs.
timewilltell
28-06-2022, 07:25 AM
It is. But if he is as serious about being fit as has been reported then he will be an absolute gift to some club. Could and should get himself back in the reckoning for Scotland too. I think he is too much of a risk for us sadly as his commitment seems always to come and go.
His Scotland days are well past him I'm afraid.
Springbank
28-06-2022, 07:29 AM
Who was the midfield when we finished 3rd?
Good point- Gogic & Boyle, who offered us better defensive & attacking options
MrSmith
28-06-2022, 07:49 AM
Said it many times before, I'd have Griffiths back with us in a flash! A rigorous fitness routine, health and wellbeing coach and councillor assigned to ensure his mental health was taken care of. I would bet within a short time he would be lean, fit, focussed and scoring goals for fun with us. There is still goals in him!
CapitalGreen
28-06-2022, 07:53 AM
Said it many times before, I'd have Griffiths back with us in a flash! A rigorous fitness routine, health and wellbeing coach and councillor assigned to ensure his mental health was taken care of. I would bet within a short time he would be lean, fit, focussed and scoring goals for fun with us. There is still goals in him!
He had all those things available to him at Celtic and he wasn’t interested. The guy is a waster, plain and simple.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.