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Since452
03-08-2022, 04:30 PM
Hopefully with all this Boyle talk we'll see someone we weren't expecting arrive under the radar. Still think we'll see another couple of players arrive.
Eaststand
03-08-2022, 04:46 PM
Hopefully with all this Boyle talk we'll see someone we weren't expecting arrive under the radar. Still think we'll see another couple of players arrive.
Talking of other players, is that Uruguayan guy who was close to signing for us still heading to us or is that move dead ?
GGTTH
matty_f
03-08-2022, 04:48 PM
Talking of other players, is that Uruguayan guy who was close to signing for us still heading to us or is that move dead ?
GGTTH
He went to Russia.
Callum_62
03-08-2022, 04:48 PM
Talking of other players, is that Uruguayan guy who was close to signing for us still heading to us or is that move dead ?
GGTTHHe signed for cska Moscow I think it was
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CallumLaidlaw
03-08-2022, 04:50 PM
He signed for cska Moscow I think it was
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Yep. For £1.5m for 70% of his ownership [emoji2359]
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Callum_62
03-08-2022, 04:56 PM
Yep. For £1.5m for 70% of his ownership [emoji2359]
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe could never have afforded Boyle if we went ahead with our offer
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Stokesy's on fire
03-08-2022, 05:01 PM
Dave Cormack at Aberdeen put up a tweet last night pretty much saying McGrath wanted to go and the deal was agreed but then changed last minute and they rejected it as it wasn’t good value if something like that
Dave Cormack is a total clown
Since452
03-08-2022, 05:07 PM
Dave Cormack is a total clown
Disco Dave is doing a great job up there. Long may it continue.
Eaststand
03-08-2022, 05:10 PM
Cheers for the info folks, I must have missed him signing for another team.
Ah well now that he's signed elsewhere, we can now say he was obviously crap anyway 😎
GGTTH
.Sean.
03-08-2022, 05:24 PM
Yep. For £1.5m for 70% of his ownership [emoji2359]
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Does that mean we were prepared to pay that for him? It seemed quite far along.
SlickShoes
03-08-2022, 05:50 PM
Yep. For £1.5m for 70% of his ownership [emoji2359]
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What does a deal like that actually mean?
Smartie
03-08-2022, 05:58 PM
McGrath, Levitt, Forrest are all the level of player we've been signing for the last half a dozen seasons. They're SPFL level, nothing special.
Levitt might kick on to another level, or might just float around the SPFL, has the feel of a player that if we signed he'd be half the player he was for Dundee Utd, same way Swanson was, or prior to him someone like Liam Craig.
McGrath is the same as JDH. Didn't really shine but was tidy enough to impress. Probably flattered a little by the level of the players around him being slightly poorer making him stand out. Again decent player but not any different from many others, his penalty taking helped his goals scored look very good if I'm not mistaken.
Forrest a decent player. Probably the next Paul McGinn. Will have a good but not exceptional career (no disrespect intendedl.
Signings we've made might turn out to be inspired, or the gamble might not pay off and the safe approach Dundee Utd and Hearts have taken will look much wiser. It's going to (hopefully) be fun finding out.
Depending on which way you look at it though Martin Boyle, John McGinn, David Gray, Darren McGregor and the like are the same "level of player" as Rowan Vine, Paul Cairney, James Collins and Shefki Kuqi.
And Chris Mueller is some sort of cut above them all, by your logic.
I just don't think we should now start turning our noses up at a market that has served us very well indeed in the past, just because we've gone through spells of buying utter pish from it as well.
You sometimes just have a gut feel about the credentials of certain players working and certain players not working. Personally, I think Dundee United have done some brilliant business and I think they've got a good coach. I'm less blown away by who Hearts have signed and think they might really toil with the challenges of Thursday/ Sunday football every week.
I'm not against the approach Hibs have taken but I always think it's about getting the right mix. Decent, proven players from these shores have their place too.
CallumLaidlaw
03-08-2022, 06:11 PM
What does a deal like that actually mean?
Not totally sure. Joint ownership Seems to happen abroad quite a lot but dunno what difference it would be than having a 30% sell on clause
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SMAXXA
03-08-2022, 06:21 PM
Not totally sure. Joint ownership Seems to happen abroad quite a lot but dunno what difference it would be than having a 30% sell on clause
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Pretty much the same thing
Unseen work
03-08-2022, 06:26 PM
Can’t believe I stayed up until midnight to watch Nacional play Liverpool for nothing.
I feel cheated.
bingo70
03-08-2022, 06:57 PM
Can’t believe I stayed up until midnight to watch Nacional play Liverpool for nothing.
I feel cheated.
I feel the same about the Jon Dahl Tomasson podcast with Graham Hunter I listened to. Absolute waste of time.
04Sauzee
03-08-2022, 07:00 PM
Can’t believe I stayed up until midnight to watch Nacional play Liverpool for nothing.
I feel cheated.
I'm still trying to figure out how Boyle slots in at LCB 😃
Springbank
03-08-2022, 07:03 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how Boyle slots in at LCB 😃
A bit like the LC semi
Porto gifts the opponent a goal but instead of that making it 0-1 Boylers efforts rendered it a mere consolation
Unseen work
03-08-2022, 07:19 PM
I feel the same about the Jon Dahl Tomasson podcast with Graham Hunter I listened to. Absolute waste of time.
I made that mistake too!🤣
JDT was actually a really good listen when Hunter remembered the interview was about JDT and allowed him to speak for a change!
Stokesy's on fire
03-08-2022, 07:23 PM
Disco Dave is doing a great job up there. Long may it continue.
Agreed. Crazy Cormack is a legend.
Nicho87
03-08-2022, 09:48 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/hibs-launch-martin-boyle-transfer-27651790
Gathering pace if you believe the papers
Bid / talks on going
Boyle in Edinburgh / Scotland anyway
JamesHFC
03-08-2022, 09:50 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/hibs-launch-martin-boyle-transfer-27651790
Gathering pace if you believe the papers
Bid / talks on going
Boyle in Edinburgh / Scotland anyway
“Meanwhile, Hibs have now cooled their interest in Nacional defender Joaquin Sosa.” 😂
Coco Bryce
03-08-2022, 09:52 PM
“Meanwhile, Hibs have now cooled their interest in Nacional defender Joaquin Sosa.” 😂
They've really not got a clue eh.
timewilltell
03-08-2022, 10:00 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Hibs escalate Martin Boyle transfer return as Easter Road chiefs make offer |
@ScottBurns75
https://bit.ly/3oTMwro
ian cruise
03-08-2022, 10:12 PM
Depending on which way you look at it though Martin Boyle, John McGinn, David Gray, Darren McGregor and the like are the same "level of player" as Rowan Vine, Paul Cairney, James Collins and Shefki Kuqi.
And Chris Mueller is some sort of cut above them all, by your logic.
I just don't think we should now start turning our noses up at a market that has served us very well indeed in the past, just because we've gone through spells of buying utter pish from it as well.
You sometimes just have a gut feel about the credentials of certain players working and certain players not working. Personally, I think Dundee United have done some brilliant business and I think they've got a good coach. I'm less blown away by who Hearts have signed and think they might really toil with the challenges of Thursday/ Sunday football every week.
I'm not against the approach Hibs have taken but I always think it's about getting the right mix. Decent, proven players from these shores have their place too.
I actually absolutely agree with the first part, bar McGinn they were SPFL level players and was not turning my nose up at Dundee Utd signings. I actually am a fan of JDH so when I say McGrath is similar it's not disrespect, but we hyped up JDH and at his first drop in form a section of the fan base decided he was terrible.
My point was they're being held up as superstars by some, when the truth is they're perfectly capable but far from world beaters. I think Utd will be industrial and very similar to the initial Ross Hibs teams. That means they're probably challenging for European place and we shouldn't underestimate them but equally we should already be writing off 3rd or 4th when a balls barely been kicked.
Hearts did what was required last season but they weren't exactly good, it was just that every other team was somehow terrible almost every week.
CapitalGreen
03-08-2022, 10:23 PM
2 goal scoring midfielders
McGrath has only scored 1 goal in the last 12 months plus 1 solitary assist to add to that.
McGruber
04-08-2022, 07:56 AM
McGrath has only scored 1 goal in the last 12 months plus 1 solitary assist to add to that.
I think McGrath is a really good player and will prove it this season. I think both Levitt and McGrath are very good and would have loved either or both at Hibs, they would both be starters IMO. They have signed elsewhere so good luck to them (or bad luck rather).
What I do find strange is everyone seems to be in unison that they are signing good players though almost seems like if Dundee United are after a player you leave them to it. Never seems to be bidding wars or other interested parties (on the face of it anyway). Every time we are in for a player seems we are in a bidding war - United seem to have won first pick at the drafts this year! Levitt especially, would have thought loads would have been sticking an oar in
CapitalGreen
04-08-2022, 08:12 AM
I think McGrath is a really good player and will prove it this season. I think both Levitt and McGrath are very good and would have loved either or both at Hibs, they would both be starters IMO. They have signed elsewhere so good luck to them (or bad luck rather).
What I do find strange is everyone seems to be in unison that they are signing good players though almost seems like if Dundee United are after a player you leave them to it. Never seems to be bidding wars or other interested parties (on the face of it anyway). Every time we are in for a player seems we are in a bidding war - United seem to have won first pick at the drafts this year! Levitt especially, would have thought loads would have been sticking an oar in
Levitt looks a very good player but I’ve watched McGrath multiple times for St Mirren and Ireland but he has never stood out or been influential in the game.
In regards to your 2nd point, with the exception of Levitt, I’m not sure which of United’s signings other teams would have been interested in. Aberdeen and Hibs could have signed McGrath in Summer 2021 and January 2022 but neither of us felt he was worth pushing the boat out for and his subsequent disastrous spell with Wigan probably confirmed that was the correct decision. As for Levitt, he probably knew his World Cup chances were best served returning to a club where he has already proven himself and where his performances earned him a call up previously.
Ronniekirk
04-08-2022, 08:53 AM
McGrath has only scored 1 goal in the last 12 months plus 1 solitary assist to add to that.
Ross will probably get him back on track but wouldn’t want him at Hibs
Ronniekirk
04-08-2022, 09:04 AM
I know the McGeady injury has changed our priority re transfer targets But I thought Lee had always said he wanted to bring in another centre back and another forward
We heard Kenwell in Portugal saying signing was imminent then more recently Ron Gordon hinting that a signing was imminent
I would rather they don’t comment until it’s clear a deal is being done as it starts to make you wonder why those signing gs never happened
If the Boyle deal is complicated and have no reason to believe it wouldn’t be ,we still need to have other irons in the fire
We have to hope Boyle keeps his word ,and continues to insist hibs is the only Scottish club he wants to come back to
That way the Saudis know if they can’t afford to keep him they need to compromise and deal with us till a deal can be done
I know the McGeady injury has changed our priority re transfer targets But I thought Lee had always said he wanted to bring in another centre back and another forward
We heard Kenwell in Portugal saying signing was imminent then more recently Ron Gordon hinting that a signing was imminent
I would rather they don’t comment until it’s clear a deal is being done as it starts to make you wonder why those signing gs never happened
If the Boyle deal is complicated and have no reason to believe it wouldn’t be ,we still need to have other irons in the fire
We have to hope Boyle keeps his word ,and continues to insist hibs is the only Scottish club he wants to come back to
That way the Saudis know if they can’t afford to keep him they need to compromise and deal with us till a deal can be done
I think it's good that they're open and transparent with the fans but maybe they could me a wee bit more streetwise. For example when I asked BK how soon we could be signing a CB he replied 'very'. Perhaps would have been a bit more savvy to add 'Hopefully' to his reply. I won't knock them for their honesty though and I think most fans realise there's many complexities to finalising a deal. TBH I'm really surprised, and pleased, with some of the deals we've already completed,.
Broken Gnome
04-08-2022, 10:09 AM
I think it's good that they're open and transparent with the fans but maybe they could me a wee bit more streetwise. For example when I asked BK how soon we could be signing a CB he replied 'very'. Perhaps would have been a bit more savvy to add 'Hopefully' to his reply. I won't knock them for their honesty though and I think most fans realise there's many complexities to finalising a deal. TBH I'm really surprised, and pleased, with some of the deals we've already completed,.
They do need to stop the candidness about singings at times. Totally understand how long these deals can take and that they can fall through for any number of reasons, but Kensell and particularly Ron have near enough guaranteed imminent annoucements and we've been waiting weeks on any confirmation.
If you're comfortable enough to nearly namedrop a new singing, like Ron did in the podcast, you really need to be sure it's a done thing and the scarf above the head is a day or two away. No point in being so revealing otherwise, and he's just setting himself up for grief.
jacomo
04-08-2022, 10:38 AM
Levitt looks a very good player but I’ve watched McGrath multiple times for St Mirren and Ireland but he has never stood out or been influential in the game.
In regards to your 2nd point, with the exception of Levitt, I’m not sure which of United’s signings other teams would have been interested in. Aberdeen and Hibs could have signed McGrath in Summer 2021 and January 2022 but neither of us felt he was worth pushing the boat out for and his subsequent disastrous spell with Wigan probably confirmed that was the correct decision. As for Levitt, he probably knew his World Cup chances were best served returning to a club where he has already proven himself and where his performances earned him a call up previously.
McGrath has gone to the Arabs on loan, not a permanent signing. This might explain the seeming lack of interest from other clubs.
Del Boy
04-08-2022, 11:21 AM
Levitt had a successful loan spell last year in which he played regularly, was adored by the fans and cemented his place in the Wales squad. United were always going to be his first choice for a permanent deal, I’m sure other clubs enquired but realistically wasn’t going to happen unless a team could offer ridiculous wages IMO.
McGrath on loan I’d have been keen on, maybe leading to permanent deal next summer if it worked out (pretty much what’s happened with Levitt)
Haymaker
04-08-2022, 11:43 AM
:hyper
Imagine he’s signed but there’s no chance he can be registered in time for Sundays game, when would you choose to announce him before Sunday or hold off till after?
SHODAN
04-08-2022, 12:44 PM
Imagine he’s signed but there’s no chance he can be registered in time for Sundays game, when would you choose to announce him before Sunday or hold off till after?
After. No distractions.
Imagine he’s signed but there’s no chance he can be registered in time for Sundays game, when would you choose to announce him before Sunday or hold off till after?
Half time on the pitch :flag:
Latapy'sVolley
04-08-2022, 12:46 PM
Imagine he’s signed but there’s no chance he can be registered in time for Sundays game, when would you choose to announce him before Sunday or hold off till after?
Can't have trained recently either, so doubt there's any chance of him playing on Sunday even if he was signed and registered in time.
BlackSheep
04-08-2022, 02:24 PM
The rumour mill has it that Boyle has been training with us to keep his fitness up…. How much truth is in there I dunno.
It’s not been too long since he played competitively and he is in his prime so I wouldn’t put it past him playing a part on Sunday…. If all the paperwork could be signed, sealed and delivered in time.
AlbertK86
04-08-2022, 02:28 PM
I know the McGeady injury has changed our priority re transfer targets But I thought Lee had always said he wanted to bring in another centre back and another forward
We heard Kenwell in Portugal saying signing was imminent then more recently Ron Gordon hinting that a signing was imminent
I would rather they don’t comment until it’s clear a deal is being done as it starts to make you wonder why those signing gs never happened
If the Boyle deal is complicated and have no reason to believe it wouldn’t be ,we still need to have other irons in the fire
We have to hope Boyle keeps his word ,and continues to insist hibs is the only Scottish club he wants to come back to
That way the Saudis know if they can’t afford to keep him they need to compromise and deal with us till a deal can be done
Agree re keeping quiet until it’s signed sealed delivered.
I wonder if they were very close with a CH but then the possibility of Boyler arose and we are holding off to see what budget is left before deciding what market we get a CH from.
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Unseen work
04-08-2022, 02:34 PM
If Boyle is signed and available to play on Sunday he 100% will.
Even if it’s a sub, the boost that would give the fans and players would be massive. Plus put the fear into hearts!
Juice-Terry
04-08-2022, 02:35 PM
if boyle is signed and available to play on sunday he 100% will.
Even if it’s a sub, the boost that would give the fans and players would be massive. Plus put the fear into hearts!
yes! Ggtth!
Souter96Mac
04-08-2022, 02:54 PM
The rumour mill has it that Boyle has been training with us to keep his fitness up…. How much truth is in there I dunno.
It’s not been too long since he played competitively and he is in his prime so I wouldn’t put it past him playing a part on Sunday…. If all the paperwork could be signed, sealed and delivered in time.
Noticed the club haven't been posting as many pics on social media of the players in training, which they tend to do usually..
Northernhibee
04-08-2022, 04:56 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
HendoDelivered
04-08-2022, 04:57 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
You know exactly what you’re about to start here 🤣
Pedantic_Hibee
04-08-2022, 04:58 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
It’s not even mid-August and they’ve spun*ed all their TV deal money already.
Hibby Kay-Yay
04-08-2022, 05:01 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
Come again…:confused:
hibby rae
04-08-2022, 05:02 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
That'll be a stain on the club
Northernhibee
04-08-2022, 05:03 PM
You know exactly what you’re about to start here 🤣
Not my fault he’s named after population paste
Coco Bryce
04-08-2022, 05:05 PM
Won't be the 1st time some fans will have had JIZZ on their shirts.
Wilson
04-08-2022, 05:11 PM
Not my fault he’s named after population paste
I expect he'll explode onto the scene.
hibby rae
04-08-2022, 05:15 PM
I expect he'll explode onto the scene.
You're right, he might be quite handy
Torto7
04-08-2022, 05:16 PM
He'll be a fan of playing in the hole......
Hillsidehibby
04-08-2022, 05:21 PM
How much did they splash out on him?
Hibs4185
04-08-2022, 05:24 PM
Hopefully he’s not a stain on the club
Paloschi
04-08-2022, 05:25 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
Loan or spermanent?
Torto7
04-08-2022, 05:26 PM
Jizz scores as Forest comes from behind.
Wilson
04-08-2022, 05:39 PM
Loan or spermanent?
Perhaps a loan with option to buy? I hope he doesn't slip through their fingers.
Hibiza
04-08-2022, 05:40 PM
He might be just a jerk
His dad was in the navy... Seaman Stains...one for the oldies..
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hibby rae
04-08-2022, 06:17 PM
His dad was in the navy... Seaman Stains...one for the oldies..
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That'll explain why I heard he's a great swimmer
hibee-boys
04-08-2022, 06:18 PM
If Boyle signs there’ll be more Jizz on show at Easter Road😏
HoboHarry
04-08-2022, 06:18 PM
Hope opposition fans aren't too hard-on him....
HoboHarry
04-08-2022, 06:19 PM
His dad was in the navy... Seaman Stains...one for the oldies..
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You forgot about his colleague Master Bates...
Walter
04-08-2022, 06:31 PM
It would be wise for them to include suitable protection in the deal. The last you want is future unforeseen costs.
Unseen work
04-08-2022, 06:41 PM
Aberdeen are signing Shayden Morris today who was previously linked with us too.
Announced now
About 2 million they’ve spent this summer, albeit received a lot through Ferguson and Ramsay
AgentDaleCooper
04-08-2022, 06:46 PM
It would be wise for them to include suitable protection in the deal. The last you want is future unforeseen costs.
if they mess us about i'm sure we'll throw the bookake at them.
sorry.
SHODAN
04-08-2022, 06:51 PM
if they mess us about i'm sure we'll throw the bookake at them.
sorry.
Oh my god.
Tambo
04-08-2022, 06:55 PM
Let's hope all this hype about Boyle's return means we can get a CB and CM with no leaks.
All gone quiet on the CB situation and it's all been about Boyle this week.
Still plenty time to get the right men.
Stokesy's on fire
04-08-2022, 07:05 PM
Announced now
About 2 million they’ve spent this summer, albeit received a lot through Ferguson and Ramsay
They have signed some amount of rubbish so far long may that continue
gbhibby
04-08-2022, 07:08 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
Durexpecting me to believe that's his name
Heisenberg
04-08-2022, 07:10 PM
Let's hope all this hype about Boyle's return means we can get a CB and CM with no leaks.
All gone quiet on the CB situation and it's all been about Boyle this week.
Still plenty time to get the right men.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Boyle was our last signing should we manage to get him.
yerauldda
04-08-2022, 07:16 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if Boyle was our last signing should we manage to get him.
Pretty sure we will sign a CB, still.
Walter
04-08-2022, 07:23 PM
if they mess us about i'm sure we'll throw the bookake at them.
sorry.
Never apologise for that brilliance
JohnM1875
04-08-2022, 07:23 PM
Pretty sure we will sign a CB, still.
Thought so as well but don't think we will if we sign Boyle and keep Porto. Rocky's strong start to the season will probably factor into it as well.
We'd have Porto, Hanlon, Rocky, McClelland who play there with Kenneh who can play there and a few good youth prospects. Don't get me wrong, I 100% think we should sign another first team CB.
Alex Trager
04-08-2022, 07:34 PM
Thought so as well but don't think we will if we sign Boyle and keep Porto. Rocky's strong start to the season will probably factor into it as well.
We'd have Porto, Hanlon, Rocky, McClelland who play there with Kenneh who can play there and a few good youth prospects. Don't get me wrong, I 100% think we should sign another first team CB.
For me, to go into the season with two established centre halves, a guy who had a poor to average second half of last season and hadn’t played a lot of football before coming to Hibs -though he has been our best CH so far, they’ve not really been tested, and a promising looking lad who was signed for the development side, would be an awful decision from the club.
They surely recognise that.
Even if you count Rocky as established, that’s three centre halves for half a season.
The two that are currently playing are prone to periods of disciplinary absence and the other is in the latter years of his career whilst returning from injury.
It has been an area that has needed attention for a few years. By all accounts the manager recognises this, so I really hope -like you do- that we don’t go ahead with the three.
GreenProfessor
04-08-2022, 07:48 PM
Durexpecting me to believe that's his name
Intercourse he is…
You forgot about his colleague Master Bates...
I also forgot his mate...Roger the cabin boy...
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Ooh matron....
You know exactly what you’re about to start here 🤣
Stiff competition for places at Forest these days.
HoboHarry
04-08-2022, 08:29 PM
I also forgot his mate...Roger the cabin boy...
B
Ooh matron....
Dammit forgot about him lol....
Eyrie
04-08-2022, 09:50 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
They kept that quiet. Normally there's a leak.
Logie
04-08-2022, 09:53 PM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
Loves to come short!
Eyrie
04-08-2022, 09:54 PM
No chance of Forest's opponents keeping a clean sheet now.
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
Their fans will be glad the transfer saga had a happy ending.
Since452
05-08-2022, 05:24 AM
Announced now
About 2 million they’ve spent this summer, albeit received a lot through Ferguson and Ramsay
A lot of money to spend. Have they spent it well? Too early to tell and Celtic are clearly a very good side but they didn't lay a glove on them at the weekend.
Silky
05-08-2022, 05:41 AM
Nottingham Forest to sign the unfortunately named Jizz Hornkamp.
Don't rate him. Never shoots outside the box.
Brightside
05-08-2022, 06:22 AM
For me, to go into the season with two established centre halves, a guy who had a poor to average second half of last season and hadn’t played a lot of football before coming to Hibs -though he has been our best CH so far, they’ve not really been tested, and a promising looking lad who was signed for the development side, would be an awful decision from the club.
They surely recognise that.
Even if you count Rocky as established, that’s three centre halves for half a season.
The two that are currently playing are prone to periods of disciplinary absence and the other is in the latter years of his career whilst returning from injury.
It has been an area that has needed attention for a few years. By all accounts the manager recognises this, so I really hope -like you do- that we don’t go ahead with the three.
Not signing an experienced CB. Again. Would be a huge mistake.
Libby Hibby
05-08-2022, 07:09 AM
Not signing an experienced CB. Again. Would be a huge mistake.
But we have Hanlon and McGregor. Add in Porto, an improved Rocky and McLelland then we have our centre halves.
MrSmith
05-08-2022, 07:20 AM
Not signing an experienced CB. Again. Would be a huge mistake.
Need midfielders too.
McGruber
05-08-2022, 07:21 AM
But we have Hanlon and McGregor. Add in Porto, an improved Rocky and McLelland then we have our centre halves.
Rocky certainly has had a strong start to the season, that gives us 3 along with Porteous and Hanlon.
McGregor is semi retired.
McLelland is a development player, same as Brydon. Not to be counted as a 1st team option this season.
So definitely need a 4th first team centre back
neil7908
05-08-2022, 07:30 AM
Not signing an experienced CB. Again. Would be a huge mistake.
Yup. It's the same as last season where we decided to go with only 2 first team strikers, who promptly both got bad injuries and left us really struggling.
I am desperate to see Boyle back but if we don't get a quality CM and another 1st Team standard option at CB we are playing with fire again.
Nicho87
05-08-2022, 08:03 AM
If it meant signing Boyle and going a bit risky at centre half and not getting a new one until Jan I’d bite your hand off
Stevenson and Hanlon even Kenneh has played there before.
Get Boyle done hibs
One way to certainly get the bond back with the fans
Northernhibee
05-08-2022, 08:09 AM
If it meant signing Boyle and going a bit risky at centre half and not getting a new one until Jan I’d bite your hand off
Stevenson and Hanlon even Kenneh has played there before.
Get Boyle done hibs
One way to certainly get the bond back with the fans
With Tait and Delferriere also looking good in midfield I agree with you.
Real Emerald
05-08-2022, 08:21 AM
If it meant signing Boyle and going a bit risky at centre half and not getting a new one until Jan I’d bite your hand off
Stevenson and Hanlon even Kenneh has played there before.
Get Boyle done hibs
One way to certainly get the bond back with the fans
Agree, getting Boyle back is far more important than a CB at the moment. He’s a match winner, goal scorer and goal maker. He also puts bums on seats and then gets you off your seat when he’s on the ball. Get Boyle in as an absolute priority.
SChibs
05-08-2022, 08:22 AM
Rocky certainly has had a strong start to the season, that gives us 3 along with Porteous and Hanlon.
McGregor is semi retired.
McLelland is a development player, same as Brydon. Not to be counted as a 1st team option this season.
So definitely need a 4th first team centre back
I hope we push the boat out for a potential starter rather than 4th choice. 4th choice is always going to be a relatively unknown Lower league English player or a young player on loan.
Alex Trager
05-08-2022, 08:22 AM
I hope we push the boat out for a potential starter rather than 4th choice. 4th choice is always going to be a relatively unknown Lower league English player or a young player on loan.
Agreed. We need a quality centre half. We have done for years.
JeMeSouviens
05-08-2022, 08:27 AM
They kept that quiet. Normally there's a leak.
Probably want it signed and sealed. There's nothing worse than being premature.
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 08:28 AM
If we were to bring Boyle back I’d be happy signing a CB on loan to provide cover, despite me not particularly wanting loan signings.
A loan signing with option to buy would work though
Mcbizz1998
05-08-2022, 08:37 AM
Has something happened more on Boyle? Posts on here and Twitter sounding like it’s done - have I missed something?
Unseen work
05-08-2022, 08:39 AM
I said similar a week or so ago, I think Rockys early season form has maybe made us reconsider where we’re spending our money and what is a priority.
Rocky, Hanlon, Porteous, Mclelland, McGregor, Kenneh, Blaney, Megwa and Delferierre have all player there to varying degrees.
They might think that’s plenty to get us to January now that Rocky is performing best out of all of them.
For me there’s still 3 areas we need real quality and if we get them we’ll improve massively
Centre half
Centre/attacking mid able to create and score
Right winger
Then we could look at shifting a couple out.
Can’t see it but it’s what I think we need.
RossScott1991
05-08-2022, 08:41 AM
From what I’ve heard the Boyle deal is done.
nonshinyfinish
05-08-2022, 08:42 AM
From what I’ve heard the Boyle deal is done.
Heard from a good source? Or just the stuff rumbling around Twitter etc?
hibbie02
05-08-2022, 08:47 AM
I said similar a week or so ago, I think Rockys early season form has maybe made us reconsider where we’re spending our money and what is a priority.
Rocky, Hanlon, Porteous, Mclelland, McGregor, Kenneh, Blaney, Megwa and Delferierre have all player there to varying degrees.
They might think that’s plenty to get us to January now that Rocky is performing best out of all of them.
For me there’s still 3 areas we need real quality and if we get them we’ll improve massively
Centre half
Centre/attacking mid able to create and score
Right winger
Then we could look at shifting a couple out.
Can’t see it but it’s what I think we need.
I would prefer we played Tait in midfield and saved the money there get a good CB. ~Obvs with Squirrel as the Right Winger! :greengrin
McGruber
05-08-2022, 09:02 AM
I hope we push the boat out for a potential starter rather than 4th choice. 4th choice is always going to be a relatively unknown Lower league English player or a young player on loan.
Yes - I meant a 4th centre back, so we have 4. Not a 4th choice
Unseen work
05-08-2022, 09:21 AM
From what I’ve heard the Boyle deal is done.
Announced today and straight in the squad on Sunday would be a huge boost for everyone
04Sauzee
05-08-2022, 09:25 AM
Announced today and straight in the squad on Sunday would be a huge boost for everyone
Even twitter seems to have quietened down so I'd be amazed if he's signing for us this week tbh, happy to be wrong of course.
How fit will he be? Looks like he partied hard after Australia qualified for the World Cup. Looks like he's also had a family holiday and met up with quite a few guys over the last few weeks.
Was the world cup qualifier his last game of football?
McGruber
05-08-2022, 09:38 AM
If it meant signing Boyle and going a bit risky at centre half and not getting a new one until Jan I’d bite your hand off
Stevenson and Hanlon even Kenneh has played there before.
Get Boyle done hibs
One way to certainly get the bond back with the fans
I doubt there is anyone that wants a CB before Boyle. Folk are looking for a CB and/or a CM aswell as Boyle.
If it became apparent there was budget enough for 1 more player only then obviously we all would have that be Boyle and we make do with who we have.
That said, I don't believe we will get Boyle so hopefully we
keep irons in the fire for other options
GreenNWhiteArmy
05-08-2022, 09:39 AM
A CB should have been our priority this month. But the Boyle development coupled with Mcgeady injury I'd far rather we blew any budget on bringing Boyle home
Marshall will save us points for sure and although inexperienced back up defensively having the Boyle threat for me means we're more likely to win a game 3-2 or 2-1 than lose it 2-1 or 1-0
RossScott1991
05-08-2022, 09:43 AM
Mcgeady said on Open goal podcast the lads been talking about it saying it’s close , just a few issues to iron out with his contract there.
K-Zazu
05-08-2022, 09:51 AM
Mcgeady said on Open goal podcast the lads been talking about it saying it’s close , just a few issues to iron out with his contract there.
It’s not done then is it
yerauldda
05-08-2022, 09:56 AM
It’s not done then is it
That would have been recorded early yesterday. He’s also unlikely to come out and say it’s all wrapped up.
Iain G
05-08-2022, 09:58 AM
A CB should have been our priority this month. But the Boyle development coupled with Mcgeady injury I'd far rather we blew any budget on bringing Boyle home
Marshall will save us points for sure and although inexperienced back up defensively having the Boyle threat for me means we're more likely to win a game 3-2 or 2-1 than lose it 2-1 or 1-0
If we can use Daz as back up until Hanlon is back we may just survive 🤞🏻
Bad Habits
05-08-2022, 09:59 AM
We're too late for Boyle if his Wikipedia is anything to go by, looks like he's signed for 'the might Aberdeen Football Club'.:rolleyes:
SHODAN
05-08-2022, 10:07 AM
Absolutely fine with a loan signing backup CB if Boyle is coming in, and sticking with Tait and Delferriere as backup CMs.
BILLYHIBS
05-08-2022, 10:09 AM
We're too late for Boyle if his Wikipedia is anything to go by, looks like he's signed for 'the might Aberdeen Football Club'.:rolleyes:
Very strange entry
Pretty sure anyone can add to Wiki
AugustaHibs
05-08-2022, 10:09 AM
Mcgeady said on Open goal podcast the lads been talking about it saying it’s close , just a few issues to iron out with his contract there.
Do you know what minute in he speaks about this?
HFC93
05-08-2022, 10:16 AM
It’s not done then is it
Some properly pessimistic people on here.
Bad Habits
05-08-2022, 10:16 AM
Very strange entry
Pretty sure anyone can add to Wiki
Aye, will be some daft kid, i'm sure it will get sorted soon!
Stairway 2 7
05-08-2022, 10:27 AM
Still not allowing myself to get excited. Really would be one of our best signings in decades. We know what we're getting with him and its class 🌟
Nicho87
05-08-2022, 10:31 AM
Saudi club have announced a new Brazilian forward 33 year old.
Hopefully one in, squirrel out
Springbank
05-08-2022, 10:31 AM
Saudi club have announced a new Brazilian forward 33 year old.
Hopefully one in, squirrel out
That could be the best news so far
ElginHibbie
05-08-2022, 10:38 AM
Saudi club have announced a new Brazilian forward 33 year old.
Hopefully one in, squirrel out
Trying to not get my hopes up...
... but at the same time :hyper
SChibs
05-08-2022, 10:39 AM
Hearing hibs are holding out for the original fee as well as Boyle coming back. Probably playing hard ball but sounds like the Saudis are happy for him to return if we waiver the money owed
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 10:41 AM
Hearing hibs are holding out for the original fee as well as Boyle coming back. Probably playing hard ball but sounds like the Saudis are happy for him to return if we waiver the money owed
There’s no chance hibs are holding out for £3m as well as getting boyle back
Someone’s pulling yer leg.
mjhibby
05-08-2022, 10:50 AM
I get why many want another c half signed given we have players who get suspended regularly but with porto and rocky the starting two with hanlon coming back and mcleland hopefully developing the centre mid area is my biggest concern. Get that right and you give the opposition less chance to hurt you attacking wise and frees up a midfielder to push forward. Getting boyler back helps enormously in many ways. Firstly he worries the hell out of teams. Sevco will be making tactics to stop him thats for sure after his semi final demolition of them. He gets us forward far quicker than anybody else plus teams are wary from pushing up on us with his pace. To me though the biggest gain is goals. He changes games and lifts the team enormously. No pressure martin. Boyler plus a strong cdm would be perfect for me. A fit mcginnis does the job but until then we need someone else in. Kenneh looks promising but looks raw.
mjhibby
05-08-2022, 10:52 AM
Some properly pessimistic people on here.
Just thinking of rickki fulton and the rev i m jolly. We seem to have loads of guys like him.🤣
RossScott1991
05-08-2022, 10:58 AM
Do you know what minute in he speaks about this?
https://youtu.be/fwtH2kizAYk
35:42 into it
mjhibby
05-08-2022, 11:01 AM
There’s no chance hibs are holding out for £3m as well as getting boyle back
Someone’s pulling yer leg.
Indeed. Just negotiating how much they should have paid for the time he was there. The doig transfer means we are in a good position so im sure it will be give and take and then settled.
Greenworld
05-08-2022, 11:07 AM
Indeed. Just negotiating how much they should have paid for the time he was there. The doig transfer means we are in a good position so im sure it will be give and take and then settled.Put it this way if Boyle is to go elsewhere then hibs will be getting balance of the three million.
If as is rumoured all hibs have been paid is 800k then its been a crap deal for hibs so far. So I would imagine hibs are saying ok another 800k and we will wave the rest .
Not sure about Boyle's outstanding wages though
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FilipinoHibs
05-08-2022, 11:09 AM
There’s no chance hibs are holding out for £3m as well as getting boyle back
Someone’s pulling yer leg.
We have had a quarter of his fee and he has played 6 months of his 2 year contract. No money should exchange hands. Should be a free transfer and we agree Boyle's wages going forward.
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 11:09 AM
Put it this way if Boyle is to go elsewhere then hibs will be getting balance of the three million.
If as is rumoured all hibs have been paid is 800k then its been a crap deal for hibs so far. So I would imagine hibs are saying ok another 800k and we will wave the rest .
Not sure about Boyle's outstanding wages though
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Unless hibs have budgeted for the £3m I reckon 800k for a 6 month loan deal hasn’t been bad
Although I do t believe it’ll be as simplistic as that
hibee-boys
05-08-2022, 11:29 AM
If some of the figures are to be believed then we’d be given up further instalments of around £2million from the original Boyle deal. That’s a heck of a lump of cash to give up as a proportion of our normal revenue.
mayo hibee
05-08-2022, 11:33 AM
Would that effectively make Boyle our new transfer record signing - we'd be effectively paying about £2.2 million for him compared to if we didn't sign him?!
Never fails to amaze me how many posters on here are privvy to the most minute details of our transfer deals!! :wink:
Coco Bryce
05-08-2022, 12:05 PM
Saudi club have announced a new Brazilian forward 33 year old.
Hopefully one in, squirrel out
Regardless what happens.
Boyle wont be going back there.
Hibiza
05-08-2022, 12:11 PM
We have had a quarter of his fee and he has played 6 months of his 2 year contract. No money should exchange hands. Should be a free transfer and we agree Boyle's wages going forward.
Sounds very reasonable . :flag:
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 12:14 PM
Never fails to amaze me how many posters on here are privvy to the most minute details of our transfer deals!! :wink:
I'm not having a go here but....
Do you live in Edinburgh? Are you of a similar ages to the players at hibs? Do you know any of the players personally or their family? If you don't know any players or staff personally, do you have close friends that do?
A lot of folk on here tick most if not all of these boxes so getting information about what's happening isn't impossible. We are not talking about the ins and outs of Ronaldo's deal with Manchester United here... its Hibs, a very big club with a hell of a lot of local connections.
Im 37 now and when i played football as youngster i played with more than a handful of players who made it to the big leagues and through them have met a lot of players, scotland and beyond..... On top of that many of my friends who also played football in their younger days have siblings and family members who went on to play for scottish clubs, its really not a big reach to find that a lot of hibs fans actually know people who are heavily bedded into the club and can pass on info in conversation, which ultimately finds its way onto forums and WhatsApp groups and the like.
I currently know a hibs first team player and know a few ex-hibs employees that worked closely with the first team, both have mentioned in conversation over the years things that many 'joe public' wouldn't be privvy to... and sometime i post that info here to spark conversation or settle debates.
It really isn't the big Hollywood scene that everyone makes out it is on here.
Would that effectively make Boyle our new transfer record signing - we'd be effectively paying about £2.2 million for him compared to if we didn't sign him?!
How can we pay £2.2m of something we never received?
IberianHibernian
05-08-2022, 12:19 PM
If Boyle plays in the World Cup how much would his club get ? Presumably an amount that Saudi club are / were counting on getting .
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 12:21 PM
If Boyle plays in the World Cup how much would his club get ? Presumably an amount that Saudi club are / were counting on getting .
They were also likely counting on the prize money for staying in the top flight, which i have been led to believe drops drastically from around £10M to £1.5M... i think they gambled on bringing Boyle in and unfortunately for them the house won!
Allant1981
05-08-2022, 12:22 PM
I'm not having a go here but....
Do you live in Edinburgh? Are you of a similar ages to the players at hibs? Do you know any of the players personally or their family? If you don't know any players or staff personally, do you have close friends that do?
A lot of folk on here tick most if not all of these boxes so getting information about what's happening isn't impossible. We are not talking about the ins and outs of Ronaldo's deal with Manchester United here... its Hibs, a very big club with a hell of a lot of local connections.
Im 37 now and when i played football as youngster i played with more than a handful of players who made it to the big leagues and through them have met a lot of players, scotland and beyond..... On top of that many of my friends who also played football in their younger days have siblings and family members who went on to play for scottish clubs, its really not a big reach to find that a lot of hibs fans actually know people who are heavily bedded into the club and can pass on info in conversation, which ultimately finds its way onto forums and WhatsApp groups and the like.
I currently know a hibs first team player and know an ex-hibs employee that worked closely with the first team, both have mentioned in conversation over the years things that many 'joe public' wouldn't be privvy to... and sometime i post that info here to spark conversation or settle debates.
It really isn't the big Hollywood scene that everyone makes out it is on here.
I know and a family member know one of the hibs coaching team and his family and have never heard anything from him!!
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 12:24 PM
I know and a family member know one of the hibs coaching team and his family and have never heard anything from him!!
And thats his prerogative... i would be surprised if a coach lets anything slip... but a player or other employee thats a different story.... especially the younger players.
My point really was to address how easy it can be to get info and not how hard it is... and in turn why no one should be surprised when folk do come out with what seems like inside info.
I also work with a lot of journalists that tend to hear things before its made public....
Take everything with a pinch of salt, yes, but dont immediately dismiss it as nonsense.
I'm not having a go here but....
Do you live in Edinburgh? Are you of a similar ages to the players at hibs? Do you know any of the players personally or their family? If you don't know any players or staff personally, do you have close friends that do?
A lot of folk on here tick most if not all of these boxes so getting information about what's happening isn't impossible. We are not talking about the ins and outs of Ronaldo's deal with Manchester United here... its Hibs, a very big club with a hell of a lot of local connections.
Im 37 now and when i played football as youngster i played with more than a handful of players who made it to the big leagues and through them have met a lot of players, scotland and beyond..... On top of that many of my friends who also played football in their younger days have siblings and family members who went on to play for scottish clubs, its really not a big reach to find that a lot of hibs fans actually know people who are heavily bedded into the club and can pass on info in conversation, which ultimately finds its way onto forums and WhatsApp groups and the like.
I currently know a hibs first team player and know an ex-hibs employee that worked closely with the first team, both have mentioned in conversation over the years things that many 'joe public' wouldn't be privvy to... and sometime i post that info here to spark conversation or settle debates.
It really isn't the big Hollywood scene that everyone makes out it is on here.
I used to train at the gym with a 1st team player who's now retired and got titbits from him, a mate of mines is very good pals with Tam McCourt and got a lot of stuff from him, not now obviously. I know an ex poster who's pally with a couple of agents and again get bits and bobs, most snippets of gossip are put on here in good faith, some work out and some don't.
Allant1981
05-08-2022, 12:30 PM
And thats his prerogative... i would be surprised if a coach lets anything slip... but a player or other employee thats a different story.... especially the younger players.
My point really was to address how easy it can be to get info and not how hard it is... and in turn why no one should be surprised when folk do come out with what seems like inside info.
I also work with a lot of journalists that tend to hear things before its made public....
Take everything with a pinch of salt, yes, but dont immediately dismiss it as nonsense.
Aww totally, i wasnt disagreeing with what you said, things will always get discussed rightly or wrongly.
As tremendous the Boyle signing would be let’s not skip over the fact we do definitely need an experienced centre half. We’ve got players who could play there but having the best option of an experienced centre half is the only option. We’d be quick enough to jump on recruitment if we start shipping goals - fill the void
SaulGoodman
05-08-2022, 12:40 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
Ronniekirk
05-08-2022, 12:40 PM
Yes - I meant a 4th centre back, so we have 4. Not a 4th choice
Lee went on record early doors to say he thought any squad needed four good centre backs
Unseen work
05-08-2022, 12:41 PM
I’d be stunned if the club just completely write off the money we’re due, especially if it’s 2.2 million.
They would then be saving 2.2 million plus what they’d be paying Boyle for the next year and a half for nothing.
Definitely negotiating to be done.
Not only did we lose Boyle but you could argue if we still had him we would have finished top 6 and Maloney etc would still be in charge - that alone would be alot of money when you think about payouts etc.
I’m confident the club will get a good deal.
GreenGray
05-08-2022, 12:41 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
Please don’t even joke about it
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King Cosell
05-08-2022, 12:43 PM
How can we pay £2.2m of something we never received?
Effectively.
Greenworld
05-08-2022, 12:44 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen boundThats fine we get the remainder of the transfer fee up front now
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Effectively.
So we basically got £800k for him for 6 months and he comes back for nowt.
Mcbizz1998
05-08-2022, 12:47 PM
So we basically got £800k for him for 6 months and he comes back for nowt.
Yeah. Would be quite happy with that deal.
Since90+2
05-08-2022, 12:48 PM
I'd say give us a million and that's it. Whether or not that's achievable is another matter.
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 12:59 PM
I’d be stunned if the club just completely write off the money we’re due, especially if it’s 2.2 million.
They would then be saving 2.2 million plus what they’d be paying Boyle for the next year and a half for nothing.
Definitely negotiating to be done.
Not only did we lose Boyle but you could argue if we still had him we would have finished top 6 and Maloney etc would still be in charge - that alone would be alot of money when you think about payouts etc.
I’m confident the club will get a good deal.
I think your theory works both ways.... The potential income from re-signing Boyle can't be dismissed. If we looked at this whole situation as if Boyle had been away on Loan for 6 months and we were paid 800k for that, then its good for all parties concerned and just Boyle who needs to be fairly compensated by Al Faisaly.
Logie
05-08-2022, 01:01 PM
Chris Cadden contract extension until 2025 announced by Hibs
SlickShoes
05-08-2022, 01:01 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
Can't see it, they'd definitely have to buy him from Saudi for a substantial fee so they can even afford to pay us the money they still owe.
If he comes back it's to hibs, the other option is likely her goes back. If he's not getting paid and refuses to go back he could just sit out in tribunal for a while.
SHODAN
05-08-2022, 01:02 PM
Chris Cadden contract extension until 2025 announced by Hibs
Good stuff.
weecounty hibby
05-08-2022, 01:03 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
Any info or just a feeling? Either way what’s it based on?
JamesHFC
05-08-2022, 01:04 PM
Chris Cadden contract extension until 2025 announced by Hibs
Brilliant news.
EskbankHibby
05-08-2022, 01:05 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
Aberdeen have just signed a winger
MWHIBBIES
05-08-2022, 01:07 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
There is no way. Think about it. They owe Hibs 2.2 million. There is no chance he is going to Aberdeen, unless the Saudis can afford to pay us that.
Just_Jimmy
05-08-2022, 01:10 PM
I'd give up the full 3mill to have Martin Boyle at Hibs.
As I said at that time, that 3mill will and wouldn't ever improve Hibs to the same level as having Boyle will.
Just get it done.
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I'm not having a go here but....
Do you live in Edinburgh? Are you of a similar ages to the players at hibs? Do you know any of the players personally or their family? If you don't know any players or staff personally, do you have close friends that do?
A lot of folk on here tick most if not all of these boxes so getting information about what's happening isn't impossible. We are not talking about the ins and outs of Ronaldo's deal with Manchester United here... its Hibs, a very big club with a hell of a lot of local connections.
Im 37 now and when i played football as youngster i played with more than a handful of players who made it to the big leagues and through them have met a lot of players, scotland and beyond..... On top of that many of my friends who also played football in their younger days have siblings and family members who went on to play for scottish clubs, its really not a big reach to find that a lot of hibs fans actually know people who are heavily bedded into the club and can pass on info in conversation, which ultimately finds its way onto forums and WhatsApp groups and the like.
I currently know a hibs first team player and know a few ex-hibs employees that worked closely with the first team, both have mentioned in conversation over the years things that many 'joe public' wouldn't be privvy to... and sometime i post that info here to spark conversation or settle debates.
It really isn't the big Hollywood scene that everyone makes out it is on here.
To answer your question I've been away from Edinburgh for over 40 years so I'm obviously not of an age nor familiar with current players . I have however been in and around football all my life, 2 Scotland managers came to my leaving do, and I remain close friends with many ex players. Over my time I've been given a lot of confidential information. To summarise, despite the introduction of social media i believe the communication principles remain much the same. In essence I don't disagree with the bulk of your comments and I completely believe the content of some posts on here from respected netters. There are others however which contain detail that only our owner/CEO would know. IMO they're either fictional or betraying a confidence. There's a fine line to walk IMO, e.g. I would say Hibs have made MB an outstanding offer to bring him back, I wouldn't say Hibs have offered MB x amount per week. I didn't mean to touch a nerve and my comments weren't directed at you, I appreciate the info provided.
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 01:18 PM
To answer your question I've been away from Edinburgh for over 40 years so I'm obviously not of an age nor familiar with current players . I have however been in and around football all my life, 2 Scotland managers came to my leaving do, and I remain close friends with many ex players. Over my time I've been given a lot of confidential information. To summarise, despite the introduction of social media i believe the communication principles remain much the same. In essence I don't disagree with the bulk of your comments and I completely believe the content of some posts on here from respected netters. There are others however which contain detail that only our owner/CEO would know. IMO they're either fictional or betraying a confidence. There's a fine line to walk IMO, e.g. I would say Hibs have made MB an outstanding offer to bring him back, I wouldn't say Hibs have offered MB x amount per week. I didn't mean to touch a nerve and my comments weren't directed at you, I appreciate the info provided.
Thanks for your response brog, as i said i hope my response wasn't taken as an attack.... and i willing to admit the subject does touch a nerve with me slightly having been on the receiving end of posts that do attack myself and other for posting any info in good faith, especially as 99.9% of the ITK post are to spread something positive... and many are shot down by people too quickly for whatever reason.
You're correct in your response about toeing the line as well.... whether folk make these things up or are as you say betraying a confidence i am sure the information is being further passed on with good intentions.
This whole Boyle situation has brought some much needed excitement and positivity back to the forum this week and i just dont want folk to start raining on our parade while we live in hope.
McGruber
05-08-2022, 01:38 PM
So we basically got £800k for him for 6 months and he comes back for nowt.
We got £800K for him for 6 months but that probably cost us about £1 million - and feasibly far more than that.
Prize money between 4th and 8th about covers the £800K - we would have finished 4th last season with Boyle in tow. We were one goal from the top 6 and a Euro scrap with United. With Boyle we would have got European football and that cash. Scottish cup semi with Hearts - not much in that and Boyle might have swung it.
Who knows what might and might not have hapened if he had stayed last season but to my mind £800K wasn't worth it. Only thing is it should have been to Boyle if he got his wages that is
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 01:41 PM
We got £800K for him for 6 months but that probably cost us about £1 million - and feasibly far more than that.
Prize money between 4th and 8th about covers the £800K - we would have finished 4th last season with Boyle in tow. We were one goal from the top 6 and a Euro scrap with United. With Boyle we would have got European football and that cash. Scottish cup semi with Hearts - not much in that and Boyle might have swung it.
Who knows what might and might not have hapened if he had stayed last season but to my mind £800K wasn't worth it. Only thing is it should have been to Boyle if he got his wages that is
All 'ifs' and 'buts' though.... we were already tanking as a team with boyle still here so who knows what could have happened.
We are all best concentrating on the now and not looking back at what's happened.
Souter96Mac
05-08-2022, 01:45 PM
Covered already I suspect but Boyle's team have signed a new forward, given him number 9, and would take them over the 7 foreign player limit (counting from their wiki, so maybe not overly accurate)
Boyle is definitely leaving them
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 01:49 PM
Covered already I suspect but Boyle's team have signed a new forward, given him number 9, and would take them over the 7 foreign player limit (counting from their wiki, so maybe not overly accurate)
Boyle is definitely leaving them
Aye the defining bit of news which means boyle isn’t going back
CapitalGreen
05-08-2022, 01:49 PM
Covered already I suspect but Boyle's team have signed a new forward, given him number 9, and would take them over the 7 foreign player limit (counting from their wiki, so maybe not overly accurate)
Boyle is definitely leaving them
I don’t think it would take them over the limit, all of their foreigners from last season except Boyle have left but are still listed on their wiki. Giving away his number 9 shirt is significant though.
Hibs4185
05-08-2022, 01:53 PM
If Boyle does re-sign then his number 10 shirt was given to Tavares!
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 01:54 PM
If Boyle does re-sign then his number 10 shirt was given to Tavares!
I hope he gets 01
Onceinawhile
05-08-2022, 01:56 PM
I hope he gets 01
David Marshall has 1.
SMAXXA
05-08-2022, 01:58 PM
I reckon he’s Aberdeen bound
100% not going to happen
JamesHFC
05-08-2022, 01:59 PM
If Boyle does re-sign then his number 10 shirt was given to Tavares!
Boyle 14
nonshinyfinish
05-08-2022, 02:00 PM
How about Boil 100?
KdyHby
05-08-2022, 02:06 PM
How about Boil 100?
🤣, appropriate when there's an energy crisis?
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 02:09 PM
David Marshall has 1.
Think 01’s considered a different number ala Deeks
GordonHFC
05-08-2022, 02:11 PM
How about Boil 100?
I think Joe Roots number in the cricket is brilliant.
SHODAN
05-08-2022, 02:11 PM
Boyle 14
Yup. Inherit the money badger's number and wages.
Onceinawhile
05-08-2022, 02:14 PM
Think 01’s considered a different number ala Deeks
We didn't have a number 1 at the time.
Fairly certain the sfa won't let us have a 01 and a 1.
nonshinyfinish
05-08-2022, 02:17 PM
Think 01’s considered a different number ala Deeks
We didn't have a number 1 at the time.
Fairly certain the sfa won't let us have a 01 and a 1.
Yep, the two main keepers at the time were Makalambay (50) and McNeil (21).
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 02:20 PM
We didn't have a number 1 at the time.
Fairly certain the sfa won't let us have a 01 and a 1.
Ah right fair enough I didn’t know that. Makes sense though
Squealing pig
05-08-2022, 02:45 PM
Thought we spent all the Boyle money sacking managers according to jambos
Unseen work
05-08-2022, 02:52 PM
Can you believe there’s some hearts fans saying Boyle wouldn’t start for them 🤣
Mackay, Forrest and Shankland all clear of him apparently…..
Nothing like being deluded
JohnM1875
05-08-2022, 03:04 PM
Can you believe there’s some hearts fans saying Boyle wouldn’t start for them 🤣
Mackay, Forrest and Shankland all clear of him apparently…..
Nothing like being deluded
😂😂😂 that is genuinely hilarious
Since452
05-08-2022, 03:08 PM
Can you believe there’s some hearts fans saying Boyle wouldn’t start for them 🤣
Mackay, Forrest and Shankland all clear of him apparently…..
Nothing like being deluded
First season they've finished above us for about 500 years and they're suddenly Real Madrid.
Thanks for your response brog, as i said i hope my response wasn't taken as an attack.... and i willing to admit the subject does touch a nerve with me slightly having been on the receiving end of posts that do attack myself and other for posting any info in good faith, especially as 99.9% of the ITK post are to spread something positive... and many are shot down by people too quickly for whatever reason.
You're correct in your response about toeing the line as well.... whether folk make these things up or are as you say betraying a confidence i am sure the information is being further passed on with good intentions.
This whole Boyle situation has brought some much needed excitement and positivity back to the forum this week and i just dont want folk to start raining on our parade while we live in hope.
Thanks, I agree 100%!
JamesHFC
05-08-2022, 03:18 PM
Can you believe there’s some hearts fans saying Boyle wouldn’t start for them 🤣
Mackay, Forrest and Shankland all clear of him apparently…..
Nothing like being deluded
McGeady, Boyle and Nisbet piss all over those three.
Gmack7
05-08-2022, 03:21 PM
Can you believe there’s some hearts fans saying Boyle wouldn’t start for them 🤣
Mackay, Forrest and Shankland all clear of him apparently…..
Nothing like being deluded
Seems fair, they are all 3 million + players
yerauldda
05-08-2022, 03:28 PM
You’d take Boyle over McKay, McGeady over Forrest and flip a coin over Nisbet and Shankland.
Walter
05-08-2022, 03:30 PM
Give Boyle the next instalment of what we are due, he comes back on a free therefore we get the player back, he makes some the fortune he left for and the Saudi club have no more obligations.
Just a thought with no knowledge of how these things work
HoboHarry
05-08-2022, 03:38 PM
According to LJ we are talking to a few players currently because we are still in the market....
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62439955
patlowe
05-08-2022, 03:41 PM
McGeady, Boyle and Nisbet piss all over those three.
McKay v McGeady - McKay is never going to reach the heights of McGeady's career but he's a very good, technical player and got years on his side so you'd be mad to choose McGeady over him.
Boyle v Forrest :greengrin not even a conversation
Nisbet v Shankland - a close one. Nisbet a better all rounder I'd say, probably with a higher ceiling, but Shankland is a more natural and ruthless finisher IMO. They're both good forwards but also have a lot to prove after an indifferent year or so. Hopefully Niz comes back strong and raring to go.
Also need to bear in mind they have Boyce, who is an excellent operator at this level so as it stands would say they have more in attacking positions. Boyle would obviously be a gamechanger and Youan is still a bit of an unknown quantity, so things could change.
FilipinoHibs
05-08-2022, 03:44 PM
Give Boyle the next instalment of what we are due, he comes back on a free therefore we get the player back, he makes some the fortune he left for and the Saudi club have no more obligations.
Just a thought with no knowledge of how these things work
I think the issue is Martin is owed wages by the club. Given the country we are dealing it is unlikely he will ever get the money. They are not likely to adhere to any tribunal decision. Players were warned about going to Saudi. I think Martin was badly advised by his agent who only saw dollar signs for himself.
Wilson
05-08-2022, 04:20 PM
You’d take Boyle over McKay, McGeady over Forrest and flip a coin over Nisbet and Shankland.
No coin flip for me. Nisbet over Shankland.
bigwheel
05-08-2022, 04:23 PM
No coin flip for me. Nisbet over Shankland.
I’d agree with that ..would have both mind you …
Since452
05-08-2022, 04:35 PM
No coin flip for me. Nisbet over Shankland.
Is Nisbet or Shankland even a discussion? I'd have Doidge over Shankland.
Hibs4185
05-08-2022, 04:45 PM
Nisbet v Shankland isn’t even a debate. We turned down close to £3 million seemingly. Shankland went for £1 million and returned home in a cut price deal to hearts.
No competition
Hibs90
05-08-2022, 04:54 PM
I think the issue is Martin is owed wages by the club. Given the country we are dealing it is unlikely he will ever get the money. They are not likely to adhere to any tribunal decision. Players were warned about going to Saudi. I think Martin was badly advised by his agent who only saw dollar signs for himself.
How do you know this? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't.
Paulie Walnuts
05-08-2022, 04:57 PM
Is Nisbet or Shankland even a discussion? I'd have Doidge over Shankland.
Of course it is.
Nisbet has had 1 good season at this level. He then followed it up with a pretty poor one.
Nisbet is probably ahead slightly as it stands but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to say that Shankland isn’t even in the discussion with Nisbet. By the time Nisbet is back this season I wouldn’t be surprised to see Shankland creeping towards double figures.
BlackSheep
05-08-2022, 04:58 PM
How do you know this? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't.
Cheer up!
Paulie Walnuts
05-08-2022, 04:58 PM
Nisbet v Shankland isn’t even a debate. We turned down close to £3 million seemingly. Shankland went for £1 million and returned home in a cut price deal to hearts.
No competition
Oli McBurnie moved for £25m as did Oli Burke (or at least a huge fee in his case).
They’re both ****ing terrible.
Hibs90
05-08-2022, 04:59 PM
Cheer up!
Perfectly cheery. :wink:
Tambo
05-08-2022, 05:09 PM
So that's Mitchell injured again, this time it's a hamstring.
Not had the best of luck so far with Hibs.
Since452
05-08-2022, 05:10 PM
So that's Mitchell injured again, this time it's a hamstring.
Not had the best of luck so far with Hibs.
FFS. Just back.
Torto7
05-08-2022, 05:12 PM
So that's Mitchell injured again, this time it's a hamstring.
Not had the best of luck so far with Hibs.
Hibs have far too many long term sick notes. KM any updates on him? He was supposed to be back last Nov last I heard.
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 05:14 PM
So that's Mitchell injured again, this time it's a hamstring.
Not had the best of luck so far with Hibs.
Yet another player who’s constantly injured.
Hibiza
05-08-2022, 05:15 PM
Nisbet or Shankland , akin to , Truss or Sunak ( imho)
Tambo
05-08-2022, 05:15 PM
Yet another player who’s constantly injured.
Aye looking that way. Did look like he could of been useful when he has played which is a shame.
Springbank
05-08-2022, 05:21 PM
Nisbet or Shankland , akin to , Truss or Sunak ( imho)
I'd say it's more like Nisbet vs Truss/Sunak/Johnson/Brown/Blair/thatcher but I'm not a big fan of the fascist apparatus of Brexit Britain (or Hearts or Rangers)
But I do rate Kevin Nisbet
Wilson
05-08-2022, 05:24 PM
Nisbet or Shankland , akin to , Truss or Sunak ( imho)
Trying to work out how that is flattering to either player on any level.
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 05:25 PM
Aye looking that way. Did look like he could of been useful when he has played which is a shame.
His injury record was terrible before we signed him. Zero due diligence done.
California-Hibs
05-08-2022, 05:28 PM
Can you believe there’s some hearts fans saying Boyle wouldn’t start for them 🤣
Mackay, Forrest and Shankland all clear of him apparently…..
Nothing like being deluded
My goodness 🤣🤣🤣 That's new heights of delusion! Obviously have short memories of him destroying them with his double at Tynecastle in 2020 New Years Derby...
Vault Boy
05-08-2022, 05:30 PM
His injury record was terrible before we signed him. Zero due diligence done.
Leaning towards agreeing with you here. I’d imagine the due diligence was done in terms of injury history being an important metric in any transfer decision, but we’ve clearly taken the risk and currently, it’s not paying off.
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 05:31 PM
Leaning towards agreeing with you here. I’d imagine the due diligence was done in terms of injury history being an important metric in any transfer decision, but we’ve clearly taken the risk and currently, it’s not paying off.
Any one looking at his injury history surely should’ve marked him as a strong avoid
Big_Franck
05-08-2022, 05:31 PM
So that's Mitchell injured again, this time it's a hamstring.
Not had the best of luck so far with Hibs.
Where are you seeing that? Surely not, although it wouldn't exactly surprise me. He's been injured for large chunks of the last 2/3 years.
Billy Whizz
05-08-2022, 05:37 PM
Where are you seeing that? Surely not, although it wouldn't exactly surprise me. He's been injured for large chunks of the last 2/3 years.
Hibs site
Big_Franck
05-08-2022, 05:54 PM
Hibs site
Cheers, just read that. The quote from Johnson is:
"There are a couple of little knocks. Demetri Mitchell is not quite there; he pulled up with a light hamstring injury, more of a cramp than it was a tear so he will be out."
So probably not too serious. From what he said about Hanlon he'll start on the bench.
Nicho87
05-08-2022, 05:57 PM
Annoying about Mitchell as he looked menacing when he came on last week.
With Tavares suspended interesting to see what he does on the left now.
Don’t want youan getting moved out there and doidge up top - youan will terrorise their centre half’s
Allant1981
05-08-2022, 05:58 PM
Of course it is.
Nisbet has had 1 good season at this level. He then followed it up with a pretty poor one.
Nisbet is probably ahead slightly as it stands but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to say that Shankland isn’t even in the discussion with Nisbet. By the time Nisbet is back this season I wouldn’t be surprised to see Shankland creeping towards double figures.
Based on previous seasons theres no dangers shankland is near double figures by november, maybe by the end of the season
Hibernian Verse
05-08-2022, 05:58 PM
Annoying about Mitchell as he looked menacing when he came on last week.
With Tavares suspended interesting to see what he does on the left now.
Don’t want youan getting moved out there and doidge up top - youan will terrorise their centre half’s
Henderson left maybe
BoomtownHibees
05-08-2022, 06:04 PM
Delferriere away to FC Edinburgh on loan
JohnM1875
05-08-2022, 06:05 PM
Delferriere away on loan to FC Edinburgh. He's much better than that in my opinion.
Paulie Walnuts
05-08-2022, 06:06 PM
Based on previous seasons theres no dangers shankland is near double figures by november, maybe by the end of the season
To be fair he’s only had one season in the top tier other than when he was a bairn. He scored 1 in 4 for a crap team who finished 9th or something.
I’d expect Hearts to be a lot higher in the league and wouldn’t be surprised at all to see him on 8 or 9 goals by November time, especially as he’ll no doubt take pens.
Unseen work
05-08-2022, 06:07 PM
Delferierre away on loan to league 1.
Capable of playing championship easily imo but I wonder if it’s just because he will play every week and they’ll allow him to play for the development team too?
Souter96Mac
05-08-2022, 06:08 PM
That's a great signing for Edinburgh. From what I seen, AD looked capable of playing in our midfield.
SaulGoodman
05-08-2022, 06:08 PM
Don’t understand that one at all.
Crab apple
05-08-2022, 06:13 PM
Delferriere away to FC Edinburgh on loan
That’s a shame. I thought he looked good over in Portugal.
Since452
05-08-2022, 06:14 PM
Fantastic signing for Edinburgh. A real coup for them. Competitive football for him every week too. Hopefully brings him on.
Cod Boy
05-08-2022, 06:14 PM
Maybe got to move players out to get another in
Delferierre away on loan to league 1.
Capable of playing championship easily imo but I wonder if it’s just because he will play every week and they’ll allow him to play for the development team too?
Strange one he has been one of the best players every time he played
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Billy Whizz
05-08-2022, 06:17 PM
Maybe got to move players out to get another in
Can’t see FC edinburgh paying much of his wages
Sgt. Hartman
05-08-2022, 06:17 PM
Either Delferriere or Tait were going to be shipped out for minutes, surprised it was to FC Edinburgh though. Could walk into most championship teams. Something to do with this new partnership or something?
Slightly disappointed but looking forward to Tait maybe getting more of a chance.
Davy Mac
05-08-2022, 06:18 PM
Did we not announce recently we were partnering up with FC Edinburgh, I think its a brilliant idea with regards to distance/closeness to the club.
Back in January full tilt, like a new signing really
Since452
05-08-2022, 06:19 PM
Kean saying Delferriere could be playing twice a week. Once with Edinburgh and once with the Development side. Will continue to train at East Mains.
Billy Whizz
05-08-2022, 06:20 PM
Kean saying Delferriere could be playing twice a week. Once with Edinburgh and once with the Development side. Will continue to train at East Mains.
So when does he train with Edinburgh
How do you know this? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't.
Not like you 🙄
Coco Bryce
05-08-2022, 06:27 PM
Poor decision from Hibs. He looks ready to me for the 1st team.
SChibs
05-08-2022, 06:28 PM
So when does he train with Edinburgh
Probably tues/thurs. Trains with us the other days
MWHIBBIES
05-08-2022, 06:33 PM
He'll absolutely piss that league.
Tambo
05-08-2022, 06:37 PM
I think playing first team football and some development games would be better than just development games.
No doubt he has looked good when he has played so far this season but maybe Johnson feels this is better for him.
Will definitely keep more of an eye out on FC Edinburgh than I have done in the past.
Maybe Tait will stay and push for first team.
04Sauzee
05-08-2022, 06:37 PM
Poor decision from Hibs. He looks ready to me for the 1st team.
Option to recall in Jan, if he absolutely tears it up we have a player in Jan with loads of minutes.
Think a loan was the right idea, just thought it would be at a higher level.
CropleyWasGod
05-08-2022, 06:38 PM
Kean saying Delferriere could be playing twice a week. Once with Edinburgh and once with the Development side. Will continue to train at East Mains.
Is he allowed to do that?
Please say we've checked the rule book :greengrin
Big_Franck
05-08-2022, 06:39 PM
Delferriere away on loan to FC Edinburgh. He's much better than that in my opinion.
I don't understand that one. He seemed really good when I've seen him and having come from Standard Liege where he had played a few games in the Belgian league, I can't see what he'll get out of a loan move to the Scottish 3rd tier. I'd definitely have kept him.
cameronw-hfc
05-08-2022, 06:40 PM
Is he allowed to do that?
Please say we've checked the rule book :greengrin
Lol yeah this is standard practice. Since they're part time he'll keep up his full time status on his Edinburgh FC days off with us, playing in dev games etc/training. It'll all be agreed in the loan deal ahead of time
So that's Mitchell injured again, this time it's a hamstring.
Not had the best of luck so far with Hibs.
Must admit we've had far too many injury prone signing this past couple of years, something really needs looked at by the club.
Billy Whizz
05-08-2022, 06:47 PM
Lol yeah this is standard practice. Since they're part time he'll keep up his full time status on his Edinburgh FC days off with us, playing in dev games etc/training. It'll all be agreed in the loan deal ahead of time
I wonder what position they will play him. I’ve read various things on his best position on wiki and Transfermarkt saying he’s a centre half or right back
Hibs have him down as a defender
Stuart93
05-08-2022, 06:47 PM
Delferierre away on loan to league 1.
Capable of playing championship easily imo but I wonder if it’s just because he will play every week and they’ll allow him to play for the development team too?
Have no idea how we’re letting players like that away out on loan and still giving regular game time to Josh campbell
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