Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Shankland to Hearts done, just awaiting confirmation.

Gutted with that one. He’ll be a brilliant signing for them I reckon and I’d have loved to see him here.

We’ll be struggling to get anywhere near them next season unless we pull a few rabbits out the hat.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Yes, Boyle had a lot more goals at that age. Tbf the point i'm making is that we need to replace boyles goals now, this season.

He did. But he was played as a striker, in the Scottish third division.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

We need a striker who can score goals regularly.

Relying on Nisbet and Doidge isn’t the best idea.

We also need to improve central midfield.

Players are back training on Saturday and wonder how many of the new players will be in attendance ? 2 out of the 4 ?

Why would they not all be in attendance?

Edit: other than Miller who I’ve just realised is playing for Aus u23s.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Spurs reportedly agree a fee for Yves Bissouma. 25 million, great deal. Mcginn won't be going there.

And Man United rumoured to be in for De Jong. Gut feeling is SJM won’t be going anywhere and we will never see that £5M (or whatever) sell-on windfall. His stock was arguably higher last summer and never moved then.

[flash]

I think we are shaping up to have a really young exciting team. I'm quite looking forward to it to be honest. There has clearly been a lot of homework done on these boys. We do need to add experience though and really hope McGeady joins. Can see three of four "older" players being added before the league season starts.

I agree. A young, vibrant team is just what we need to lift the mood.
I also reckon a good manager can get a lot more out of the players we already have.
A fully fit Magennis would be like a really good new signing too.

[Since452]

Why would they not all be in attendance?

Edit: other than Miller who I’ve just realised is playing for Aus u23s.

Think a couple are awaiting work permits.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Think a couple are awaiting work permits.

:aok:

[Since452]

I agree. A young, vibrant team is just what we need to lift the mood.
I also reckon a good manager can get a lot more out of the players we already have.
A fully fit Magennis would be like a really good new signing too.

This is key for me. Thought he was tremendous at the start of last season after getting a good pre season.

[GreenCastle]

Why would they not all be in attendance?

Edit: other than Miller who I’ve just realised is playing for Aus u23s.

Miller away.

Have we got work permit for Bojang ?

[EGL2000]

Spurs reportedly agree a fee for Yves Bissouma. 25 million, great deal. Mcginn won't be going there.

That's a very good signing for that money. Spurs looking very strong for next season.

[GreenCastle]

I agree. A young, vibrant team is just what we need to lift the mood.
I also reckon a good manager can get a lot more out of the players we already have.
A fully fit Magennis would be like a really good new signing too.

Winning games will lift the mood.

All this good team on paper chat is tedious - we just need a good team who win games on the pitch.

Will be interesting to see if Magennis and Doidge are back training on Saturday.

Assume Hanlon won’t be training after his op?

[flash]

This is key for me. Thought he was tremendous at the start of last season after getting a good pre season.

Goals from midfield is something we absolutely lacked after he got injured.
Coupled with lack of firepower up front no wonder we struggled so badly.

[SaulGoodman]

Yes, Boyle had a lot more goals at that age.

I scored at least 100 goals down the park at that age.

[flash]

Winning games will lift the mood.

All this good team on paper chat is tedious - we just need a good team who win games on the pitch.

Will be interesting to see if Magennis and Doidge are back training on Saturday.

Assume Hanlon won’t be training after his op?

It's not tedious though. It's the chat that keeps us sane.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Miller away.

Have we got work permit for Bojang ?

Hibs have said he’ll join up on 1st July


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[ian cruise]

I think we just need to get the balance right.

IMO the thing we’ve really missed from the last 2 managers is energy and intensity, I think it’s been so placid. I think youthful enthusiasm is really needed and the crowd will feed off that. We do of course need experienced players to help them but we’ve still got players with plenty games under their belt.

With you on this. We've been far too pedestrian and safe, even when Ross was in charge (and I was a fan of Ross).

Get in some fast, tricky and gallus young players with bags of energy and enthusiasm. Fill them full of haribo and tell them to go out play without any fear. We might end up with the occasional 6-6 or occasional absolute pasting but we'll win more than we lose in Scottish football and by god it will be fun.

[GloryGlory]

Miller away.

Have we got work permit for Bojang ?

When he was announced the official site said it was subject to "international clearance and work permit". ISTR it took a couple of weeks for Melkerson to get his WP, so maybe, maybe not. Unless we had already agreed a deal a few weeks before it was announced and we have been working to get the WP?

Edit: Since he was playing in Portugal I wonder if he is still there and will join up when we go to the training camp.

[wandering_hibee]

Of the 3 you mentioned only mackay will be close to first team action. I like the look of this Portuguese boy. Hopefully it comes off.
Why is only Mackay close to first team action? Bradley is starting most games for Dundalk in the Irish League and scoring while Mackay couldn't get a regular start for Kilmarnock, he sounds just like the sort of player we could use this season, oh wait, he is already our player.

[Edinburgh Green]

I scored at least 100 goals down the park at that age.

Cool

[The Modfather]

Goals from midfield is something we absolutely lacked after he got injured.
Coupled with lack of firepower up front no wonder we struggled so badly.

Not just goals from midfield but midfielders willing to run ahead of the ball and get into the box as well.

[thebausburst]

Gutted with that one. He’ll be a brilliant signing for them I reckon and I’d have loved to see him here.

We’ll be struggling to get anywhere near them next season unless we pull a few rabbits out the hat.

Agreed, we’re miles off just now

[ian cruise]

Why is only Mackay close to first team action? Bradley is starting most games for Dundalk in the Irish League and scoring while Mackay couldn't get a regular start for Kilmarnock, he sounds just like the sort of player we could use this season, oh wait, he is already our player.

Was Bradley loan not an 18 month one, similar to our Harry Clarke loan. Not sure he'll play for us this season.

[CapitalGreen]

Was Bradley loan not an 18 month one, similar to our Harry Clarke loan. Not sure he'll play for us this season.

1 season loan but Irish league is a summer season. We have an option to recall him this window.

[truehibernian]

Agreed, we’re miles off just now

Miles off ? Seriously ?

We outplayed them with 10 men and a horrific squad (and injury list) and an inept manager. They didn’t have a shot on target after 120 minutes in a cup final against a team who’d played in a European final 3 days earlier and hadn’t trained.

Shankland didn’t set the heather on fire with United in the top league, you suddenly think he’s going to turn into Harry Kane wearing maroon ?

We’re not miles off them at all.

[Scotty Leither]

Have we actually paid a fee for anyone we’ve signed?

[Smartie]

Was Bradley loan not an 18 month one, similar to our Harry Clarke loan. Not sure he'll play for us this season.

As it stands I think he's probably our best and most reliable wide player and would be a first pick (depending I guess on how we want to play).

I'd love to see him come back and get a proper opportunity tbh.

[Heisenberg]

Have we actually paid a fee for anyone we’ve signed?

Lewis Miller and Rocky I think.

[04Sauzee]

Have we actually paid a fee for anyone we’ve signed?

Paid a fee for Miller
Would we be due Leeds a cross border development fee?
Bushiri fee?

[Callum_62]

Have we actually paid a fee for anyone we’ve signed?Rocky - yes

Not sure on the boy from Leeds

Presumably a loan fee for Bojang

And I guess yes for Lewis Miller

Why do fees matter though?


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[HappyAsHellas]

Miles off ? Seriously ?

We outplayed them with 10 men and a horrific squad (and injury list) and an inept manager. They didn’t have a shot on target after 120 minutes in a cup final against a team who’d played in a European final 3 days earlier and hadn’t trained.

Shankland didn’t set the heather on fire with United in the top league, you suddenly think he’s going to turn into Harry Kane wearing maroon ?

We’re not miles off them at all.

This, I fancy us to overtake them for third - onwards and upwards.

[HH81]

Jon DT is new Blackburn manager.

[King Cosell]

Have we actually paid a fee for anyone we’ve signed?

We'll have paid at least 500K in Signing-on fees for Kenneh & Miller, maybe a bit less for Marshall & Bojang. Very few transfers are free.

[Brightside]

Why is only Mackay close to first team action? Bradley is starting most games for Dundalk in the Irish League and scoring while Mackay couldn't get a regular start for Kilmarnock, he sounds just like the sort of player we could use this season, oh wait, he is already our player.

Because Bradley is staying in Ireland unless thats changed?

[matty_f]

Have we actually paid a fee for anyone we’ve signed?

Yes. Rocky was an undisclosed fee - IIRC it was in the article on the official site.

The article on Miller’s signing also says that the terms of the deal with MaxArthur FC (who had agreed a pre-contract with Miller) would not be disclosed so. i would think there would definitely be a financial incentive to MacArthur involved.

[King Cosell]

If we could renegotiate the fee, I'd be quite happy to see Jasper back.

[Since452]

Miles off ? Seriously ?

We outplayed them with 10 men and a horrific squad (and injury list) and an inept manager. They didn’t have a shot on target after 120 minutes in a cup final against a team who’d played in a European final 3 days earlier and hadn’t trained.

Shankland didn’t set the heather on fire with United in the top league, you suddenly think he’s going to turn into Harry Kane wearing maroon ?

We’re not miles off them at all.

Agreed. We're not miles off at all. We had a squad decimated by injury and an incompetent manager. Hearts weren't any great shakes last season. No shots on target in a cup final against a team that went to pens in a European cup final in mental heat a few days prior. The difference between Hearts and the rest is that they were less consistantly ***** than the rest of the teams in a bizarre league where a team that went 13 games without a win finished 4th. All Hearts Xmases came at once last season.

[Scotty Leither]

We'll have paid at least 500K in Signing-on fees for Kenneh & Miller, maybe a bit less for Marshall & Bojang. Very few transfers are free.

£500k? Really?

Miller signed a pre-contract with a team in Oz that’s been in existence for 5 years, which he’s opted out of to sign for Hibs; Kenneh’s deal at Leeds had ended so I’m sorry the notion that we’ve shelled out £500k to bring these two in is fantasy.

There’s a theme developing with Hibs transfer dealings of young, inexperienced players brought in for next to nowt in the hope they’ll come good to be sold on, in fact I’d venture the club’s signing policy is not to pay any fees for players at all unless it’s a nominal one for squad players like Mitchell or paying a fee by accident such was the ludicrous set of circumstances surrounding the Bushiri deal.

We need 4 first-team starters signed minimum; maybe Kensell can tell us on Wednesday week how that’ll be achieved?

[matty_f]

£500k? Really?

Miller signed a pre-contract with a team in Oz that’s been in existence for 5 years, which he’s opted out of to sign for Hibs; Kenneh’s deal at Leeds had ended so I’m sorry the notion that we’ve shelled out £500k to bring these two in is fantasy.

There’s a theme developing with Hibs transfer dealings of young, inexperienced players brought in for next to nowt in the hope they’ll come good to be sold on, in fact I’d venture the club’s signing policy is not to pay any fees for players at all unless it’s a nominal one for squad players like Mitchell or paying a fee by accident such was the ludicrous set of circumstances surrounding the Bushiri deal.

We need 4 first-team starters signed minimum; maybe Kensell can tell us on Wednesday week how that’ll be achieved?

The same policy that’s paid six figure fees for Magennis, Mackay, Melkersen, Nisbet etc?

[Franck Stanton]

Agreed, we’re miles off just now

Wind up merchant. Now away back to your pink bus shelter & twirl your scarf.

[Smartie]

It struck me when the players were doing their tour around the pitch after the final game just how little end product we've had of late from a whole bunch of players who should really be capable of being our greatest contributors due to injury.

Magennis, Mitchell, Clarke, Nisbet, Doidge. What did we really get from them during the second half of the season?

Get them fit, in the team, in the right formation and suddenly we don't appear to be "miles off".

All of that whilst acknowledging we still need to add some serious quality and accepting that we might not see some of these players at peak fitness ever again, or for only very short bursts at a time.

[superfurryhibby]

The same policy that’s paid six figure fees for Magennis, Mackay, Melkersen, Nisbet etc?

Poor return from the first three so far.

From my perspective, the recent signings just look like more of the same strategy that we saw in January. It's early days but the squad is looking bloated with young players and guys past their best. We also have the burden of long contracts for the likes of JDH, Campbell, Magennis, Newell and Doidge.

I can't say I'm filled with confidence at the direction we appear to be heading.

We are miles away from where we need to be.

[Tyler Durden]

Poor return from the first three so far.

From my perspective, the recent signings just look like more of the same strategy that we saw in January. It's early days but the squad is looking bloated with young players and guys past their best. We also have the burden of long contracts for the likes of JDH, Campbell, Magennis, Newell and Doidge.

I can't say I'm filled with confidence at the direction we appear to be heading.

We are miles away from where we need to be.

Maybe so but both the manager and Ian Gordon have been very clear that we need more experienced players. Once we get 2 or 3 of those in the door, things can look different quite quickly.

[04Sauzee]

Poor return from the first three so far.

From my perspective, the recent signings just look like more of the same strategy that we saw in January. It's early days but the squad is looking bloated with young players and guys past their best. We also have the burden of long contracts for the likes of JDH, Campbell, Magennis, Newell and Doidge.

I can't say I'm filled with confidence at the direction we appear to be heading.

We are miles away from where we need to be.

Could be that the young guys we are signing were first pick for that kind of age group. The more established players may take a little time as they may have other options, be looking for a little more money or their clubs are more difficult to deal with. I'm sure we are looking at experienced players at the same time as recruiting young talent

[GreenPJ]

I have no issues with signings to date but we do need experienced/proven striker, wide man and attacking midfielder unless Magennis is over all of his injury woes.

[matty_f]

Poor return from the first three so far.

From my perspective, the recent signings just look like more of the same strategy that we saw in January. It's early days but the squad is looking bloated with young players and guys past their best. We also have the burden of long contracts for the likes of JDH, Campbell, Magennis, Newell and Doidge.

I can't say I'm filled with confidence at the direction we appear to be heading.

We are miles away from where we need to be.

Irrespective of the return, the point was that we have a policy where we aren’t spending money which is demonstrably wrong.


I agree that we need more experience and i fully expect to see is sign experience during the window, which had only been open a matter of days.

[Lago]

Spurs reportedly agree a fee for Yves Bissouma. 25 million, great deal. Mcginn won't be going there.
McGinn won't be going anywhere.

[WeeRussell]

It’s almost as if some folk would be happier if we’d signed the same players but spent 3 million more in doing so.

[JamesHFC]

John McGinn to Spurs unlikely now they are signing Bissouma for £25m. Looks like they will also be getting Eriksen back on a free.

[Unseen work]

Aberdeen’s scouting system appears similar to us at the moment, looking to bring in foreign players from across Europe

Signed

Ylber Ramadani - 26 year old Albanian - MTK Budapest, Hungary

Linked with;

Bojan Miovski - 23 year old Macedonian - MTK Budapest FC, Hungary

Tobias Lauritsen - 24 year old Norwegian - Odd FC, Norway

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen’s scouting system appears similar to us at the moment, looking to bring in foreign players from across Europe

Signed

Ylber Ramadani - 26 year old Albanian - MTK Budapest, Hungary

Linked with;

Bojan Miovski - 23 year old Macedonian - MTK Budapest FC, Hungary

Tobias Lauritsen - 24 year old Norwegian - Odd FC, Norway

Read somewhere that MTK had been relegated so they were needing to sell their non Hungarian players?? No idea if that's true or nonsense.

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-hibs-keen-to-strike-deal-for-benfica-forward-3731006

Trusted Pat giving an update

[neil7908]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-hibs-keen-to-strike-deal-for-benfica-forward-3731006

Trusted Pat giving an update

Renato Sanches cousin? This is the kind of rumour I can get on board with!

[Caversham Green]

£500k? Really?

Miller signed a pre-contract with a team in Oz that’s been in existence for 5 years, which he’s opted out of to sign for Hibs; Kenneh’s deal at Leeds had ended so I’m sorry the notion that we’ve shelled out £500k to bring these two in is fantasy.

There’s a theme developing with Hibs transfer dealings of young, inexperienced players brought in for next to nowt in the hope they’ll come good to be sold on, in fact I’d venture the club’s signing policy is not to pay any fees for players at all unless it’s a nominal one for squad players like Mitchell or paying a fee by accident such was the ludicrous set of circumstances surrounding the Bushiri deal.

We need 4 first-team starters signed minimum; maybe Kensell can tell us on Wednesday week how that’ll be achieved?

I don't know about this year, but for the year ended 30 June 2021 Hibs paid £1,043,840 in player acquisition fees (that doesn't include signing on fees) which is more than Hearts and Aberdeen combined. Suggests it's not how much you spend, it's what you spend it on.

[GloryGlory]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-hibs-keen-to-strike-deal-for-benfica-forward-3731006

Trusted Pat giving an update

Looks like a rehash of what was said on Twitter.

[04Sauzee]

Looks like a rehash of what was said on Twitter.

More of a recap than an update.

[blackpoolhibs]

Winning games will lift the mood.

All this good team on paper chat is tedious - we just need a good team who win games on the pitch.

Will be interesting to see if Magennis and Doidge are back training on Saturday.

Assume Hanlon won’t be training after his op?
Not anymore, it has to be with style now, winning is not enough.

[superfurryhibby]

Irrespective of the return, the point was that we have a policy where we aren’t spending money which is demonstrably wrong.


I agree that we need more experience and i fully expect to see is sign experience during the window, which had only been open a matter of days.


I have no doubt that we are investing in players and at a level we haven't seen for many years. However, I'm sceptical about the kind of fees that have been bandied around on here, grossly inflated and not reflective the actual spend (like the Mueller wages stuff).

It is early days and hopefully there is plenty to come. Also hoping that there will be a fair few out the door too. It's all a bit messy (Bushiri and McGinn situations reflect this).

What will offer reassurance is the signing of first team ready players, guys who are able to lift the standard. The sooner the better for me.

[wandering_hibee]

Because Bradley is staying in Ireland unless thats changed? We can get him back this month if we want and then have ready to go and well ahead of the rest.

[matty_f]

I have no doubt that we are investing in players and at a level we haven't seen for many years. However, I'm sceptical about the kind of fees that have been bandied around on here, grossly inflated and not reflective the actual spend (like the Mueller wages stuff).

It is early days and hopefully there is plenty to come. Also hoping that there will be a fair few out the door too. It's all a bit messy (Bushiri and McGinn situations reflect this).

What will offer reassurance is the signing of first team ready players, guys who are able to lift the standard. The sooner the better for me.

I think the figure quoted by Caversham Green (from the accounts, I think) validated the figures being quoted, I think when you see that (and keep in mind that some of the deals will have, presumably, payments structured over a number of years) then there’s irrefutable evidence that the money is being spent.

[evy]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-hibs-keen-to-strike-deal-for-benfica-forward-3731006

Trusted Pat giving an update

I'm on board just for the dreadlocks.

[Leighonel]

More of a recap than an update.

More of a confirmation of our interest.

[JamesHFC]

Probably expect Paul McGinn at Dundee Utd if Jack Ross is appointed.

[tonyrougier123]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

[Since452]

I'm on board just for the dreadlocks.

Not had decent dreadlocks since Jimmy Boco so it's a yes from me.

[WeeRussell]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

I wish Hibs would employ someone like you who knows so much from one video.

[bingo70]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

That’s some take from a 4 minute YouTube clip.

[SlickShoes]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

We definitely need a winger who passes well that's their best attribute...

[tonyrougier123]

I wish Hibs would employ someone like you who knows so much from one video.

I wish hibs would employ someone who doesn’t watch videos to scout players so that’s a catch 22 eh?

[SlickShoes]

I wish hibs would employ someone who doesn’t watch videos to scout players so that’s a catch 22 eh?

So we should only scout from live games that scouts can attend? what is wrong with analysing video?

[flash]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

Says the man whose username is a winger who rarely ever passed.

[Heisenberg]

I wish hibs would employ someone who doesn’t watch videos to scout players so that’s a catch 22 eh?

We are going to severely limit ourselves if we aren’t allowed to view video footage when scouting.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Says the man whose username is a winger who rarely ever passed.

😂😂😂

[tonyrougier123]

That’s some take from a 4 minute YouTube clip.

Actually his stats are one assist in 24 apps

And his 4minute clip shows very little playing with head up looking for the assist.

Another show pony with one trick is not what we need for the first team.

[04Sauzee]

I wish hibs would employ someone who doesn’t watch videos to scout players so that’s a catch 22 eh?

You do realise clubs have more video footage available to them than just YouTube reals?

[Since452]

https://youtu.be/pSn5XTTOFC0

Not seen anything from that that has me concerned!

[evy]

Not had decent dreadlocks since Jimmy Boco so it's a yes from me.

My thoughts entirely.

[bingo70]

Says the man whose username is a winger who rarely ever passed.

Brilliant. Well played Flash.

[04Sauzee]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

https://youtu.be/fhesEWXIQDQ some passes just for you

[tonyrougier123]

Says the man whose username is a winger who rarely ever passed.

We judge folk on usernames now flash😂

I was very young when we signed rougier and I liked him.

Username was just a random thought of ex player.

[CapitalGreen]

Actually his stats are one assist in 24 apps

And his 4minute clip shows very little playing with head up looking for the assist.

Another show pony with one trick is not what we need for the first team.

4 goals and 1 assist in 696 minutes, so a goal or assist every 139 minutes.

[GreenCastle]

We are going to severely limit ourselves if we aren’t allowed to view video footage when scouting.

You would hope every player Hibs sign is watched in the flesh and not just off various videos.

Important to find out background information about a player etc.

[Willis1875]

We haven’t even signed the guy or is there any evidence that we will,Yet folk are already foaming at the mouth 🙄
Maybe if there is interest we will take a look at him when we are over in Portugal

[tonyrougier123]

We haven’t even signed the guy or is there any evidence that we will,Tyler folk are already foaming at the mouth 🙄
Maybe if there is internet we will take a look at him when we are over in Portugal

No one is foaming slight exaggeration pal,we are debating the pros and cons of a potential signing how we see them fitting into importantly the first team which is miles off.

[Iain G]

I wish hibs would employ someone who doesn’t watch videos to scout players so that’s a catch 22 eh?

So audio only then? No visuals? 🤣

[Callum_62]

I once watched a video of Derek Riordans goals

Raging he didn't pass once!

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[tonyrougier123]

So audio only then? No visuals? 🤣

I think someone who only receives audio would actually do a better job of bringing in players but there you go.😂

[Willis1875]

No one is foaming slight exaggeration pal,we are debating the pros and cons of a potential signing how we see them fitting into importantly the first team which is miles off.

You’ve come on ranting about recruitment,the need for players who pass etc.
You have made these comments on the back of watching a video on a guy where there is no evidence that we are looking to sign

[Unseen work]

I tell you a winger id like to see us go for.

Issah Abass.

Was on loan at Rijeka last season and really impressed me when he played against us.

Only 23 and out of contract next summer.

[DanishJohn]

Just watched the Tavares video and tell you something,
Don't take away the music was some song !

Hurray up Hibs and announce a major signing. I want one for the here and now, not what he might and I say might make us in the future.

It's almost like the sign in a pub " Free beer tomorrow"

[WeeRussell]

We judge folk on usernames now flash😂

I was very young when we signed rougier and I liked him.

Username was just a random thought of ex player.

Mental eh? Almost as daft as judging a player, hibs entire recruitment process and scouting team on a YouTube clip.

[tonyrougier123]

You’ve come on ranting about recruitment,the need for players who pass etc.
You have made these comments on the back of watching a video on a guy where there is no evidence that we are looking to sign

No video and club stats I based an opinion on.24 apps 1 assist 4 goals.
In the video never looks to be finding the pass,greedy snap shots.I’m analysing what’s available to talk about.

I’m no ranting just stating the obvious,real lack of first team activity in the market yet again.

Folk on here love to exaggerate to,like flash coming out with childish comments about posters usernames,all very amusing so you boys crack on with that,I will reply, honest.

The business we have done has not addressed the imbalance in the squad,we’ve got under a month til the competitive season starts and areas in the team are below standard.as we well know from last season.

Panic stations and frothing will resume on match day threads when we are pumping out bog standard performances against supposedly lesser teams.

It’s early so still plenty time to sign players before end of august right enough,
But season starts well before then and I think it’s nowhere near good enough for hibs the business we have done so far.

[tonyrougier123]

Mental eh? Almost as daft as judging a player, hibs entire recruitment process and scouting team on a YouTube clip.

Scouting team?at hibs?😂

As I said it’s an opinion on what I’ve seen,plus his stats.

As for YouTube clips seems to be how we operate,if any due diligence is being done on our singings that would be an even worse scenario.

Casting the net wide,would love to see an example of this wide scouting network.

[ElginHibbie]

Boang - Played in Portgual last season

Tavares - Played in Portugal last season

Hibs - Going to Portugal for pre-season

...starting to think we might have contacts there

[Billy Whizz]

Boang - Played in Portgual last season

Tavares - Played in Portugal last season

Hibs - Going to Portugal for pre-season

...starting to think we might have contacts there

Not many Portuguese players in Scotland, I wonder why?
Only one I can think of is Jota at Celtic, and we have a youth player Balde

[Since452]

If we were signing boys from lower division English clubs folk would be moaning about the scouting and saying we should be casting the net wider. I'm quite excited at the prospect of the lad from Africa and Portugal. It's a bit of an unknown for us but glad we're trying something different, makes it interesting. Compliment them with three of four seasoned pro's and i'll be happy.

[J-C]

https://youtu.be/pSn5XTTOFC0

Not seen anything from that that has me concerned!

Yep, bag of tricks, spots a pass, pretty pacy and looks strong for his age. Where's the one trick pony head never up that someone else seen?

[superfurryhibby]

How many first team ready signings do people really feel we need?

It's almost a given that Porto and Doig will be away. Nisbet out injured for at least the first quarter of the forthcoming season. Added to that, the probability that McGinn and Doidge are offski, with players like JDH, Campbell, McGregor unlikely to be first team mainstays. Surely we are going to see major reconstruction here?

I'm hoping for half a dozen incoming.

[J-C]

How many first team ready signings do people really feel we need?

It's almost a given that Porto and Doig will be away. Nisbet out injured for at least the first quarter of the forthcoming season. Added to that, the probability that McGinn and Doidge are offski, with players like JDH, Campbell, McGregor unlikely to be first team mainstays. Surely we are going to see major reconstruction here?

I'm hoping for half a dozen incoming.

We released a few, plus the loanees, that'll free up a lot of wages, players are only just returning from holidays, I'd expect some movement in the next couple of weeks.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Not many Portuguese players in Scotland, I wonder why?
Only one I can think of is Jota at Celtic, and we have a youth player Balde

Yeah don’t think there’s any more currently. Been a few in the past including Morais & Vaz Te at Hibs.


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[Heisenberg]

How many first team ready signings do people really feel we need?

It's almost a given that Porto and Doig will be away. Nisbet out injured for at least the first quarter of the forthcoming season. Added to that, the probability that McGinn and Doidge are offski, with players like JDH, Campbell, McGregor unlikely to be first team mainstays. Surely we are going to see major reconstruction here?

I'm hoping for half a dozen incoming.

We still need a lot of work and that’s having made about five signings already. Players of a first team standard that are ready to come in and contribute immediately are required throughout the squad.

[jacomo]

How many first team ready signings do people really feel we need?

It's almost a given that Porto and Doig will be away. Nisbet out injured for at least the first quarter of the forthcoming season. Added to that, the probability that McGinn and Doidge are offski, with players like JDH, Campbell, McGregor unlikely to be first team mainstays. Surely we are going to see major reconstruction here?

I'm hoping for half a dozen incoming.


I don’t know why people seem to wishing Doig away but we will see more movement I’m sure.

[JimBHibees]

Yep, bag of tricks, spots a pass, pretty pacy and looks strong for his age. Where's the one trick pony head never up that someone else seen?

Thought he looked good can beat a man and decent end product. Difficult to tell the level but you would assume the fact he was training with Benfica first team squad and played Portuguese second division is a decent level.

[superfurryhibby]

I don’t know why people seem to wishing Doig away but we will see more movement I’m sure.

It's not about wishing him away though, it's more about the probability that he is going, same with Porto.

In a very rare snippet of ITK info, I was told that he is very close to signing for an Italian club, Verona. That is contrary to the reports in the news and most on here. Another poster mentioned this the other night.

I've no doubt we will see movement and totally aware that we have signed players already (not aimed at you). However, only Marshall appears to be a first team starter. I just think people are kidding themselves if they think we only need three-four first picks to come in. It's major surgery for me , not a wee bit of supplementing of an already decent squad.

[Greenworld]

How many first team ready signings do people really feel we need?

It's almost a given that Porto and Doig will be away. Nisbet out injured for at least the first quarter of the forthcoming season. Added to that, the probability that McGinn and Doidge are offski, with players like JDH, Campbell, McGregor unlikely to be first team mainstays. Surely we are going to see major reconstruction here?

I'm hoping for half a dozen incoming.It's a difficult question to answer without behind the scenes info .
As you say more depends on who goes .
Should Doig go arguably our most hope of getting a 3/ 4 mill fee.
Then I think you will see major changes .if he does not go then we are tied to our budget.
Same could be said with John mcginn if he moves then we are looking in a different level of player coming in .
I'm sure the manager is desperate
For some movement to see what he can do.
Porteous is a very quiet one no rumours at all.

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[WeeRussell]

It's not about wishing him away though, it's more about the probability that he is going, same with Porto.

In a very rare snippet of ITK info, I was told that he is very close to signing for an Italian club, Verona. That is contrary to the reports in the news and most on here. Another poster mentioned this the other night.

I've no doubt we will see movement and totally aware that we have signed players already (not aimed at you). However, only Marshall appears to be a first team starter. I just think people are kidding themselves if they think we only need three-four first picks to come in. It's major surgery for me , not a wee bit of supplementing of an already decent squad.

I do agree in that I definitely would like to see close to half an outfield of new faces when we start the season.

[One Day Soon]

We still need a lot of work and that’s having made about five signings already. Players of a first team standard that are ready to come in and contribute immediately are required throughout the squad.


I'd say we are an absolute minimum of of five first team starting eleven players away from finished transfer business. None of those we have signed so far fall into that category with the exception of Marshall - and goalkeeper isn't one of the five I have in mind, though we certainly need to improve in that position too.

The signings we have made so far are either really good news from a squad depth and possible player development point of view or they are a complete disaster from a first team point of view, depending upon what further signings we make...

[G15 Hibs]

I just think people are kidding themselves if they think we only need three-four first picks to come in. It's major surgery for me , not a wee bit of supplementing of an already decent squad.

Absolutely. Just how bad Hibs were from October onwards is still fresh in the mind. While there were mitigating circumstances with a horrible run of injuries and managerial turmoil, ultimately we didn't have the players to do much better. So far I wouldn't say that the overall squad has been improved any since the end of the season. I wouldn't want to rely too much on some of those who were out for long periods last season coming back and being the players they were before. There are a lot of so-so players around who might get better with better players around them, but we need a good half-a-team of experienced first picks in if we're going to do much this upcoming season.

[MWHIBBIES]

McGinn won't be going anywhere.

I agree totally.

[04Sauzee]

Would we be happy if McGeady signed tomorrow and we signed Tavares?
Or is one to old and the other unproven? 😁

[Unseen work]

Hearts interested in Jorge Grant.

Saw him a few times for Notts County and Lincoln, think he’d be a good signing for them.

Him along with Shankland and Forrest is a good start to their window.

[SaulGoodman]

Would we be happy if McGeady signed tomorrow and we signed Tavares?
Or is one to old and the other unproven? 😁

Of course we wouldn’t.

[Stuart93]

Hearts interested in Jorge Grant.

Saw him a few times for Notts County and Lincoln, think he’d be a good signing for them.

Him along with Shankland and Forrest is a good start to their window.

Think the difference to their signings and ours is theirs seem to be ready to go straight into the first team with plenty experience.

Really feel we need to start making the same kind of signings

[xqnq1875]

Think the difference to their signings and ours is theirs seem to be ready to go straight into the first team with plenty experience.

Really feel we need to start making the same kind of signings

Agree with this 100% I get wanting to build for the future that’s great and all but when it comes down the actual games you can see we lack the experience in the squad, really
Hope we start to sign some experienced players soon


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[Smartie]

I'd say we are an absolute minimum of of five first team starting eleven players away from finished transfer business. None of those we have signed so far fall into that category with the exception of Marshall - and goalkeeper isn't one of the five I have in mind, though we certainly need to improve in that position too.

The signings we have made so far are either really good news from a squad depth and possible player development point of view or they are a complete disaster from a first team point of view, depending upon what further signings we make...

Totally agree with your second paragraph.

Our business so far might prove to be woeful or brilliant depending on what we do next.

I’d love to be optimistic but there’s just that nagging doubt that persists.

[MikeyS]

Agree with this 100% I get wanting to build for the future that’s great and all but when it comes down the actual games you can see we lack the experience in the squad, really
Hope we start to sign some experienced players soon


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Looks like Steve Kean is going to have a decent team to go play friendlies with anyway.

I feel we need about 5 or 6 new faces ready for the 1st team as only Marsh so far is ready. Expect us ti lose Doig, Porto, McGinn in next few weeks and still wouldn't be surprised to see Rocky go somewhere on loan before season starts either.

[HIBS NUTS]

Scouting team?at hibs?😂

As I said it’s an opinion on what I’ve seen,plus his stats.

As for YouTube clips seems to be how we operate,if any due diligence is being done on our singings that would be an even worse scenario.

Casting the net wide,would love to see an example of this wide scouting network.
I agree,at the moment we appear to be copying our January signings, with unproven young players, who could be anything, let’s hope we get some proven decent old heads in as well.

[Unseen work]

Think the difference to their signings and ours is theirs seem to be ready to go straight into the first team with plenty experience.

Really feel we need to start making the same kind of signings

100% agree.

I’m sure Johnson will too, he’ll know the likes of Tavares, Melkersen, Hauge, Delferriere, Kenneh etc could all be really good in a couple of years - but he needs players that are good now so he gets the chance to reap the rewards of of youngster’s.

I think in Scotland you don’t need to be too fancy to finish top 6, look at Dundee United last season and us when we finished 3rd.

If United get Jack Ross then along with Killie, Aberdeen, Hearts, Celtic, Rangers and Motherwell it will be a huge battle. Even Livi and Ross county will probably kick on again.

We’ll need to sign quality to get clear of them.

[MrRobot]

Just watched the Tavares video,are recruitment aware we need players who pass the ball?

Getting ridiculous the obvious lack of scouting going into these potential signings,offering zero with a sell on unreal.unless this boy is another development signing should be nowhere near the first team.
Too raw too greedy bit like jasper.

We really need to be concentrating on first team ready players as not one we have signed improves us on paper.

****ing hell man, this place is getting utterly stupid.

[Scotty Leither]

Think the difference to their signings and ours is theirs seem to be ready to go straight into the first team with plenty experience.

Really feel we need to start making the same kind of signings

Nah, that’ll never catch on at ER as that costs £££, much better to buy for the future/B team/ etc.

[SaulGoodman]

Nah, that’ll never catch on at ER as that costs £££, much better to buy for the future/B team/ etc.

Zzzz

[B.H.F.C]

Nah, that’ll never catch on at ER as that costs £££, much better to buy for the future/B team/ etc.

I don’t get the idea that we don’t spend money.

Can all debate how well we’ve been spending it (not very well IMO) but we’re definitely spending.

[xqnq1875]

Few folk on twitter saying Tavares has signed and will be announced tomorrow, thoughts ?


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[Iain G]

100% agree.

I’m sure Johnson will too, he’ll know the likes of Tavares, Melkersen, Hauge, Delferriere, Kenneh etc could all be really good in a couple of years - but he needs players that are good now so he gets the chance to reap the rewards of of youngster’s.

I think in Scotland you don’t need to be too fancy to finish top 6, look at Dundee United last season and us when we finished 3rd.

If United get Jack Ross then along with Killie, Aberdeen, Hearts, Celtic, Rangers and Motherwell it will be a huge battle. Even Livi and Ross county will probably kick on again.

We’ll need to sign quality to get clear of them.

Kenneh will be a first team pick straight away, he is here for first team opportunities.

[matty_f]

I don’t get the idea that we don’t spend money.

Can all debate how well we’ve been spending it (not very well IMO) but we’re definitely spending.

:agree:

Fair enough to question the strategy, but ignoring the facts that big money (relative to our size, competitors, and historical spend) to claim we’re going after the cheap options does nothing to support the argument.

[Since452]

Demi Mitchell seems to have been forgotten about. Really liked the look of him before his injury. Was hitting some good form. Is he due to start pre season training with the rest? Tin hat on but we do have some good players in our squad.

[matty_f]

Few folk on twitter saying Tavares has signed and will be announced tomorrow, thoughts ?


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Agreed, definitely people saying it on twitter. :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Demi Mitchell seems to have been forgotten about. Really liked the look of him before his injury. Was hitting some good form. Is he due to start pre season training with the rest? Tin hat on but we do have some good players in our squad.
His foot was in a boot a few weeks ago, seen him post things on Instagram with no boot now but have absolutely no idea if he's fit enough to start training?

[Spike Mandela]

Kenneh will be a first team pick straight away, he is here for first team opportunities.

People said the same about Nathan Wood, Melkerson, Jonleit, Feruz etc, etc.

People are deluding themselves if they think all these 19 and 20 year olds with no first team experience are going straight into our first team. If they are exceptional or kick on they stand a chance going forward but I think we really need to start signing relatively experienced players at their peak ages of 23-28ish as straight first team picks and get realistic about Hibs signing strategy which appears to me to be building for the future..

Hopefully not too many at the age of McGeady either but the odd ‘auld heid’ in a team can be of benefit.

[MikeyS]

I don’t get the idea that we don’t spend money.

Can all debate how well we’ve been spending it (not very well IMO) but we’re definitely spending.

It's only him that thinks we don't spend money even though he is corrected numerous times a day!

RG has given every manager loads to spend in comparison to any Hibs manager since McLeish. The argument should really be focused on how its all been used but that doesn't fit Scotty Leither's agenda.

[Dmas]

People said the same about Nathan Wood, Melkerson, Jonleit, Feruz etc, etc.

People are deluding themselves if they think all these 19 and 20 year olds with no first team experience are going straight into our first team. If they are exceptional or kick on they stand a chance going forward but I think we really need to start signing relatively experienced players at their peak ages of 23-28ish as straight first team picks and get realistic about Hibs signing strategy which appears to me to be building for the future..

Hopefully not too many at the age of McGeady either but the odd ‘auld heid’ in a team can be of benefit.


Spike the manager has spoken of how he likes the squad numbers to be made up with some experienced heads in there, its holiday season the window isnt open it really is just silly panicking cause all we're linked with is young players.

we've signed a 20yr old who wont be first team ready, a 19yr old who is first team ready with no experience, a 36yr old and linked with another 36yr old as well as another 19 year old they are mixing it the older heads just are'nt over the line.

I think a lot of people need to get realistic of where we are in the food chain, we where linked with a winger from portsmoth the other day who fits the age brackets required by many they want 500k for him, how many of those types if any would hibs be able to buy?

[1875Sean]

I don’t get the idea that we don’t spend money.

Can all debate how well we’ve been spending it (not very well IMO) but we’re definitely spending.

It’s easy to forget but we have spent a transfer fee on a few players in the squad - Doidge, Cadden, Nisbet, Mitchell, Melkersen, Rocky, Magennis, Mackay, sure we paid a small fee for Macy?

I’d say in the last few years more fees than most outside the old firm

[007]

No one is foaming slight exaggeration pal,we are debating the pros and cons of a potential signing how we see them fitting into importantly the first team which is miles off.

You implied he can't pass and offers zero and said he's too raw and too greedy. No mention of any pros or how he might fit into the team.

[Stuart93]

Spike the manager has spoken of how he likes the squad numbers to be made up with some experienced heads in there, its holiday season the window isnt open it really is just silly panicking cause all we're linked with is young players.

we've signed a 20yr old who wont be first team ready, a 19yr old who is first team ready with no experience, a 36yr old and linked with another 36yr old as well as another 19 year old they are mixing it the older heads just are'nt over the line.

I think a lot of people need to get realistic of where we are in the food chain, we where linked with a winger from portsmoth the other day who fits the age brackets required by many they want 500k for him, how many of those types if any would hibs be able to buy?

I don’t see too many people panicking, just that they think we need to bring in a few more experienced players.

Don’t think people are asking for anything unrealistic either. It’s not unrealistic to expect to bring in some experienced players. They don’t all cost £500k.

[tonyrougier123]

You implied he can't pass and offers zero and said he's too raw and too greedy. No mention of any pros or how he might fit into the team.

Looks fast.

[Dmas]

I don’t see too many people panicking, just that they think we need to bring in a few more experienced players.

Don’t think people are asking for anything unrealistic either. It’s not unrealistic to expect to bring in some experienced players. They don’t all cost £500k.

there's a lot of people asking for 23-28 yr olds who can come straight in and make us better, which of course is fair wouldn't we all want that, but if we had a player in that age bracket under contract we would be after a decent chunk of cash....Martin Boyle as evidence. they don't all cost 500k but they don't come for free either that's prime age players.

[cameronw-hfc]

I don’t see too many people panicking, just that they think we need to bring in a few more experienced players.

Don’t think people are asking for anything unrealistic either. It’s not unrealistic to expect to bring in some experienced players. They don’t all cost £500k.


The point isn't that we're not bringing in young players, it's that we're a mere few weeks into the window, pre season hasn't even started yet and people are moaning about every single signing that isn't 26yo and played 500 games.

There's signings being brought in to improve the squad, irrelevant of their age, and we've got 2 months yet to bring in more.

I'd understand all of this moaning if we were a week from the window closing and this current squad, but as it stands we've got plenty of time and it gets a bit boring and monotomous seeing "another young player not ready for the first team" posts after every player were linked with.

[Gordy M]

Im really looking forward to this season under Johnson. He has a lot of experience and has a good record of signing players and improving them. Ive every confidence he knows what he is doing in building a team, he has done it at arguably a higher level than where we are at the moment. Also looking forward to see if he can get a tune out of some players who struggled under Maloney.

[Stuart93]

The point isn't that we're not bringing in young players, it's that we're a mere few weeks into the window, pre season hasn't even started yet and people are moaning about every single signing that isn't 26yo and played 500 games.

There's signings being brought in to improve the squad, irrelevant of their age, and we've got 2 months yet to bring in more.

I'd understand all of this moaning if we were a week from the window closing and this current squad, but as it stands we've got plenty of time and it gets a bit boring and monotomous seeing "another young player not ready for the first team" posts after every player were linked with.

I agree completely. I don’t mind us signing young players either

I’m just hoping our next few are a bit more experienced heads to help guide the youngsters.

Certainly not a moan either

[Stuart93]

there's a lot of people asking for 23-28 yr olds who can come straight in and make us better, which of course is fair wouldn't we all want that, but if we had a player in that age bracket under contract we would be after a decent chunk of cash....Martin Boyle as evidence. they don't all cost 500k but they don't come for free either that's prime age players.

Hearts recently (last few seasons) brought in Boyce, Kingsley, Halkett, Mackay, that new guy Rowles, looking at shankland, I’m sure there’s more I’ve missed who are in their prime and undoubtedly improved them.

It can be done without having to spend a lot of cash.

[bingo70]

I agree completely. I don’t mind us signing young players either

I’m just hoping our next few are a bit more experienced heads to help guide the youngsters.

Certainly not a moan either

We do still have decent amounts of experience in the squad.

Marshall, Stevenson, Hanlon, Mitchell, Newell, Cadden, Nisbet, Magennis, Doidge, JDH and probably others I’ve got bored trying to think of all have plenty experience.

It’s not quite the team of babies being put out that some are suggesting.

[Stuart93]

We do still have decent amounts of experience in the squad.

Marshall, Stevenson, Hanlon, Mitchell, Newell, Cadden, Nisbet, Magennis, Doidge, JDH and probably others I’ve got bored trying to think of all have plenty experience.

It’s not quite the team of babies being put out that some are suggesting.

But I reckon we need to improve on some of they players though. I’m not arguing they aren’t experienced

[Big_Franck]

I have to say yet another youngster that hasn't played a single senior game in his career isn't what I was hoping for. We have plenty young projects already. We need a minimum 3/4 experienced pros who will come in and improve our starting 11. If we continue down this road of signing youngsters that have never played men's football I can't see this ending well at all. Hopefully we get those more experienced, more dependable ones in soon.

[bingo70]

But I reckon we need to improve on some of they players though. I’m not arguing they aren’t experienced

Yeah I don’t disagree but there’s still plenty time left of the window.

I like the signings we’ve made so far. Plenty time to worry about the signings we’ve not made yet.

[bingo70]

I have to say yet another youngster that hasn't played a single senior game in his career isn't what I was hoping for. We have plenty young projects already. We need a minimum 3/4 experienced pros who will come in and improve our starting 11. If we continue down this road of signing youngsters that have never played men's football I can't see this ending well at all. Hopefully we get those more experienced, more dependable ones in soon.

Benfica B play senior football against men in the Portuguese 2nd division

[Stuart93]

Yeah I don’t disagree but there’s still plenty time left of the window.

I like the signings we’ve made so far. Plenty time to worry about the signings we’ve not made yet.

Yep there’s plenty time. Not worrying. Just simply saying I’d like our next few to have some experience.

[Dmas]

Hearts recently (last few seasons) brought in Boyce, Kingsley, Halkett, Mackay, that new guy Rowles, looking at shankland, I’m sure there’s more I’ve missed who are in their prime and undoubtedly improved them.

It can be done without having to spend a lot of cash.


Boyce was costing them 12k a week was he not? I dont want to get into a debate about them but they also signed north of 70 players under levein who where absolute manure, all freebies from whatever corner of the globe all with experience and all the reason to suggest to cut the risk in falling into that trap ourselves again that we source the right guys and probably be met with a fee to pay.

[Stairway 2 7]

Problem is any player we go for mustn't be wanted by old firm, hearts, English championship teams or most of league one as they will outbid us. Finding an experienced player that is doing well and other teams don't want is hard. That's why we usually have to take a punt on either someone young or who has potential but perhaps inconsistent

[HoboHarry]

Nobody signed today then? F**** sake, .net admins oot......

[J-C]

Benfica B play senior football against men in the Portuguese 2nd division


If I remember rightly, Ryan Gauld played in the Portuguese 2nd Div and we were happy enough at the time to get him on loan, unfortunately turned out to be injury prone here.

[cam75]

What was the average age of TMteam ?

Regards the player from rainbow Fc I can see a bit of didier Agatha about him raw and skill about his play, we need to chill out and have some trust in the management and board it’s early in the season ��
Ggtth

[cameronw-hfc]

If I remember rightly, Ryan Gauld played in the Portuguese 2nd Div and we were happy enough at the time to get him on loan, unfortunately turned out to be injury prone here.

He did, he then went back there after his spell with us and captained the team he was at to their highest finish in a few years and got POTY whilst in the top league.

Portugal is a very good place to look for talent, especially when you look at the lower leagues, players waiting to step up that won't cost the same as someone from Benfica A team!

[bigwheel]

If I remember rightly, Ryan Gauld played in the Portuguese 2nd Div and we were happy enough at the time to get him on loan, unfortunately turned out to be injury prone here.

Tbf , he had one quite bad injury..then did it get any real game time when recovered ..

[Stuart93]

Boyce was costing them 12k a week was he not? I dont want to get into a debate about them but they also signed north of 70 players under levein who where absolute manure, all freebies from whatever corner of the globe all with experience and all the reason to suggest to cut the risk in falling into that trap ourselves again that we source the right guys and probably be met with a fee to pay.

But they’ve since signed players with experience that have added quality to their team and not had to pay a penny.

You don’t have to pay through the nose for decent experienced players. Sometimes you don’t have to pay at all.

[J-C]

Tbf , he had one quite bad injury..then did it get any real game time when recovered ..


I wasn't saying he was injury prone in general, just while he was here which didn't really help him.

[matty_f]

But they’ve since signed players with experience that have added quality to their team and not had to pay a penny.

You don’t have to pay through the nose for decent experienced players. Sometimes you don’t have to pay at all.

They’re not free, though - you still need to give them a wage relative to their ability so it’s not right to say you don’t have to pay at all.

[Stairway 2 7]

But they’ve since signed players with experience that have added quality to their team and not had to pay a penny.

You don’t have to pay through the nose for decent experienced players. Sometimes you don’t have to pay at all.

What. The same players get offered to 10 clubs, we need to beat there wages.

[Caversham Green]

I don’t get the idea that we don’t spend money.

Can all debate how well we’ve been spending it (not very well IMO) but we’re definitely spending.

:agree: Transfer fees paid in the year ended 30 June 2021 were

Aberdeen £780,000
Hearts £233,000
Hibs £1,043,840

[Scotty Leither]

But they’ve since signed players with experience that have added quality to their team and not had to pay a penny.

You don’t have to pay through the nose for decent experienced players. Sometimes you don’t have to pay at all.

They’ve also signed experienced players to beef up their squad for their European campaign, something that we singularly fail to do any time we qualify for European competition.

We’re out the starting blocks on the 9th of July versus Clyde, followed by Falkirk on the Wednesday night.

We have to use these fixture to get off to a positive start this season, and we’ll not do that with largely the same group of players as last year, augmented by some hopeful punts on untried laddies.

[Gordy M]

They’ve also signed experienced players to beef up their squad for their European campaign, something that we singularly fail to do any time we qualify for European competition.

We’re out the starting blocks on the 9th of July versus Clyde, followed by Falkirk on the Wednesday night.

We have to use these fixture to get off to a positive start this season, and we’ll not do that with largely the same group of players as last year, augmented by some hopeful punts on untried laddies.

Have they? Ive not been paying attention, but they lost Soutar and signed the Oz guy, they lost Simms and possobly signed Shankland......so Alan Forrest is the only 'addition'?? Is it not?

[cameronw-hfc]

:agree: Transfer fees paid in the year ended 30 June 2021 were

Aberdeen £780,000
Hearts £233,000
Hibs £1,043,840


Watch out, that doesn't fit the agenda of most Hibs fans that we don't spend money and Ron "the con" doesn't invest in the club.

[andrew70]

Easy for the doom merchants to say we should be signing everyone else bar untried laddies but not one comes up with potential names?

Who, realistically, could or should we be buying/signing?

[bingo70]

Boang - Played in Portgual last season

Tavares - Played in Portugal last season

Hibs - Going to Portugal for pre-season

...starting to think we might have contacts there

It was said when LJ joined us he also has links at Man City.

If there was a young out of contract Man City player who’s been on loan in Portugal, has experience of Scottish football, plays in a position we need to strengthen and is a good age for still having potential sell on in the future I wonder if we’d be interested???……..

Step forward Ryatoro Meshino!

Absolutely nothing to suggest we’re interested in him BTW, I’m just bored.

[superfurryhibby]

We do still have decent amounts of experience in the squad.

Marshall, Stevenson, Hanlon, Mitchell, Newell, Cadden, Nisbet, Magennis, Doidge, JDH and probably others I’ve got bored trying to think of all have plenty experience.

It’s not quite the team of babies being put out that some are suggesting.

That list could be used to make many a point.

[Spike Mandela]

Easy for the doom merchants to say we should be signing everyone else bar untried laddies but not one comes up with potential names?

Who, realistically, could or should we be buying/signing?

???? There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of players out there who have lots of first team games under their belt. It is literally the job of Hibs recruitment staff to identify them and sign them if they are suitable for the managers’s requirements, it’s not up to fans to pluck names out of thin air.

Fwiw I believe Hibs will do that and these young lads signed are for the near and middle future.

[04Sauzee]

It was said when LJ joined us he also has links at Man City.

If there was a young out of contract Man City player who’s been on loan in Portugal, has experience of Scottish football, plays in a position we need to strengthen and is a good age for still having potential sell on in the future I wonder if we’d be interested???……..

Step forward Ryatoro Meshino!

Absolutely nothing to suggest we’re interested in him BTW, I’m just bored.

Wasn't the worst player either just didn't suit the Hearts style under Levein, at least I think it was Levein at the time

[GreenCastle]

???? There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of players out there who have lots of first team games under their belt. It is literally the job of Hibs recruitment staff to identify them and sign them if they are suitable for the managers’s requirements, it’s not up to fans to pluck names out of thin air.

Fwiw I believe Hibs will do that and these young lads signed are for the near and middle future.

I don’t think it’s just experience fans want though. Experience sounds like a players towards the end of their career.

It’s someone who has played a decent amount of football has had experiences of playing regularly but is consistent and has potential to still improve hopefully.
Hearts have found the right balance in last few windows and it’s really not rocket science. You do need a certain type to play top league football in Scotland. Raw talent is fine but like we saw with Melkersen it’s asking a lot to be expected to start and play most games. Young guys will hopefully be eased in alongside other seasoned pros.


I also think the character of the player is important - they need to be mentally tough and it’s a lot to ask a young player to settle and play well straight away.

I think it will need a B team player to break into 1st team and do well then be sold for fans to gain a bit of trust in this strategy. So that could easily be a couple seasons / years.

Kids rarely win stuff on own unless exceptional so we do need some players who have played decent minutes elsewhere and can share experiences and create standards / habits for the young guys to aspire to.

[brog]

:agree: Transfer fees paid in the year ended 30 June 2021 were

Aberdeen £780,000
Hearts £233,000
Hibs £1,043,840

Facts will never catch on!!

[andrew70]

???? There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of players out there who have lots of first team games under their belt. It is literally the job of Hibs recruitment staff to identify them and sign them if they are suitable for the managers’s requirements, it’s not up to fans to pluck names out of thin air.

Fwiw I believe Hibs will do that and these young lads signed are for the near and middle future.

Equally it’s not up to fans to continually gripe about the signings we have made especially not assuming we’ve plucked them out of thin air or on the cheap.

We aren’t going to sign proven successes. We are going to sign players who have floundered, stagnated or Young potential. Either way it’s a toss of the coin if they’ll do well for us but I have every faith in the transfer committee and it beggars belief the reaction of some on here m. Embarrassing.

[Callum_62]

They’ve also signed experienced players to beef up their squad for their European campaign, something that we singularly fail to do any time we qualify for European competition.

We’re out the starting blocks on the 9th of July versus Clyde, followed by Falkirk on the Wednesday night.

We have to use these fixture to get off to a positive start this season, and we’ll not do that with largely the same group of players as last year, augmented by some hopeful punts on untried laddies.

I think we will beat Clyde regardless to be honest

[Scotty Leither]

I think we will beat Clyde regardless to be honest

I would certainly hope so and cuff that Falkirk mob as well, but forbye the last meaningless league game at Easter Road we barely score more than one goal a game.

We need players in, decent and proven at this level, and we need them bedded in to the squad, and I’m sorry but the Recruitment team have got only one more window to get it right for me.

[Stuart93]

Easy for the doom merchants to say we should be signing everyone else bar untried laddies but not one comes up with potential names?

Who, realistically, could or should we be buying/signing?

This is a ***** argument. We’ve a whole dedicated team to find players to bring in.

[Stuart93]

They’re not free, though - you still need to give them a wage relative to their ability so it’s not right to say you don’t have to pay at all.

I meant a transfer fee as the poster I was originally replying to made reference to having to pay £500k for the lad from pompey.

Obviously we need to pay better wages to better players

[HoboHarry]

This is a ***** argument. We’ve a whole dedicated team to find players to bring in.

Your answer is no better. It's a lazy comment to make and simply shows a greater desire to make noise rather than contribute and share knowledge.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Still ages to go in the transfer window so really no need to panic or anything like it. Who knows, the guys we have signed might turn out to be just the job, young athletic and full of enthusiasm.

But the trouble is we just don't know, so what we have to look at is what we do know:

We know we have signed a vastly experienced keeper who has played at a good level for all of his career.

We have a left back with loads of promise, who might be away soon with no experienced replacement for him on the books apart from the aging Lewis Stevenson.
We have a centre half who has it in him to be a future Hibs captain and Scotland player, who might be away soon with a replacement practically nobody wanted us to sign.
We have a midfield that absolutely needs strengthened with the only player currently on the books we have actually seen play who looks capable of doing that coming back from an injury ravaged season, hell, an injury ravaged career, in Magennis

We only have two tried and tested strikers in Nisbet and Doidge, one who probably wont be fully fit until October / November and another who looked half the player he was when he returned from injury and even before that divided opinion as to his ability. The only guy we have seen play currently contesting that area is Melkersen, a guy who looks like he needs more time to develop, not least of all physically.

When you look at that it's not really surprising that folk are calling for some experienced ( and decent ) signings .... As I said, no panic yet because of how long we have left before the window closes ..... but if this remains the situation by the time the window does close I for one will be more than a little concerned about exactly what we expect to achieve next season, with only a bunch of untried youngsters with literally no experience of the Scottish game brought in to improve a team who cups aside were a car crash last season.

[ToffeeCabbage]

The same twitter account that broke the Tavares story now saying he's already in Scotland to finalise the movehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220615/400af77b3b816b8fa7e302095c26a7b2.jpg

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[Unseen work]

Never realised Tavares only started 6 games for Benfica B last season, coming off the bench 18 times. 696 minutes in total in the league.

Had it in my head he was a regular starter.

Don’t know if that makes it less impressive or the fact he scored 4 and assisted 1 despite being mainly a sub is more impressive?

Not a definite starter anyway by the sounds of it but got potential

[FilipinoHibs]

Worried about the lack of experience in our signings. Maybe LJ things youth can burn our league up.

[JimBHibees]

Facts will never catch on!!

The bigger concern is what we got for that money I think.

[JimBHibees]

Still ages to go in the transfer window so really no need to panic or anything like it. Who knows, the guys we have signed might turn out to be just the job, young athletic and full of enthusiasm.

But the trouble is we just don't know, so what we have to look at is what we do know:

We know we have signed a vastly experienced keeper who has played at a good level for all of his career.

We have a left back with loads of promise, who might be away soon with no experienced replacement for him on the books apart from the aging Lewis Stevenson.
We have a centre half who has it in him to be a future Hibs captain and Scotland player, who might be away soon with a replacement practically nobody wanted us to sign.
We have a midfield that absolutely needs strengthened with the only player currently on the books we have actually seen play who looks capable of doing that coming back from an injury ravaged season, hell, an injury ravaged career, in Magennis

We only have two tried and tested strikers in Nisbet and Doidge, one who probably wont be fully fit until October / November and another who looked half the player he was when he returned from injury and even before that divided opinion as to his ability. The only guy we have seen play currently contesting that area is Melkersen, a guy who looks like he needs more time to develop, not least of all physically.

When you look at that it's not really surprising that folk are calling for some experienced ( and decent ) signings .... As I said, no panic yet because of how long we have left before the window closes ..... but if this remains the situation by the time the window does close I for one will be more than a little concerned about exactly what we expect to achieve next season, with only a bunch of untried youngsters with literally no experience of the Scottish game brought in to improve a team who cups aside were a car crash last season.

All very valid points however as you say if 3 or 4 quality first team ready players are not brought in we will be in trouble. Suppose the risk is given we have this u23 development squad plan at the same time as needing players for first team now is that we land between the two stools and don't strengthen the first team enough while bringing in younger players not yet ready to play first team and are more longer term. LJ will know what he needs I have no doubt about that and it is up to the club to deliver that. The better players will be much harder to sign given there will be more competition.

[Brightside]

Kenneh will be a first team pick straight away, he is here for first team opportunities.

https://twitter.com/lw_scouting/status/1536441929424150529?s=21&t=eOpHag6ZYzARaOmQEJJWuQ

Some good stats on the lad. Also good to see JDH high in those elements.

[Tyler Durden]

Still ages to go in the transfer window so really no need to panic or anything like it. Who knows, the guys we have signed might turn out to be just the job, young athletic and full of enthusiasm.

But the trouble is we just don't know, so what we have to look at is what we do know:

We know we have signed a vastly experienced keeper who has played at a good level for all of his career.

We have a left back with loads of promise, who might be away soon with no experienced replacement for him on the books apart from the aging Lewis Stevenson.
We have a centre half who has it in him to be a future Hibs captain and Scotland player, who might be away soon with a replacement practically nobody wanted us to sign.
We have a midfield that absolutely needs strengthened with the only player currently on the books we have actually seen play who looks capable of doing that coming back from an injury ravaged season, hell, an injury ravaged career, in Magennis

We only have two tried and tested strikers in Nisbet and Doidge, one who probably wont be fully fit until October / November and another who looked half the player he was when he returned from injury and even before that divided opinion as to his ability. The only guy we have seen play currently contesting that area is Melkersen, a guy who looks like he needs more time to develop, not least of all physically.

When you look at that it's not really surprising that folk are calling for some experienced ( and decent ) signings .... As I said, no panic yet because of how long we have left before the window closes ..... but if this remains the situation by the time the window does close I for one will be more than a little concerned about exactly what we expect to achieve next season, with only a bunch of untried youngsters with literally no experience of the Scottish game brought in to improve a team who cups aside were a car crash last season.

We have Demi Mitchell for left back. Also Clarke and we’ve signed Miller who can play there.

We have signed Kenneh to come in and strengthen the midfield.

I personally don’t think Porteous is going anywhere this summer so seems bit harsh to criticise the club for not signing his replacement yet.

As you say there’s lots of time and no need to panic.

[CentreLine]

https://twitter.com/lw_scouting/status/1536441929424150529?s=21&t=eOpHag6ZYzARaOmQEJJWuQ

Some good stats on the lad. Also good to see JDH high in those elements.

JDH will have fantastic stats for passes completed. Problem is they are always safe, almost always backwards and very short. I’m convinced he’s a much better player than we saw last year though and can come good.

[truehibernian]

We have Demi Mitchell for left back. Also Clarke and we’ve signed Miller who can play there.

We have signed Kenneh to come in and strengthen the midfield.

I personally don’t think Porteous is going anywhere this summer so seems bit harsh to criticise the club for not signing his replacement yet.

As you say there’s lots of time and no need to panic.

Sadly, I think referees and Scottish media will force Ryan to leave for down south, and get Hibs a decent fee. Could be beneficial for both parties to be brutally honest - no doubting his ability and potential at all, but he is targeted by refs and that makes him (sadly) a liability to the team.

[Brightside]

Sadly, I think referees and Scottish media will force Ryan to leave for down south, and get Hibs a decent fee. Could be beneficial for both parties to be brutally honest - no doubting his ability and potential at all, but he is targeted by refs and that makes him (sadly) a liability to the team.

When Ryan leaves is will be for money. Nothing to do with press and media. If we can use that as the excuse.

[04Sauzee]

The same twitter account that broke the Tavares story now saying he's already in Scotland to finalise the movehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220615/400af77b3b816b8fa7e302095c26a7b2.jpg

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Patrick saying as much now 👍

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-set-for-hibs-medical-as-club-closes-in-on-benfica-forward-3731961

[bingo70]

Patrick saying as much now 👍

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-set-for-hibs-medical-as-club-closes-in-on-benfica-forward-3731961

He’s also saying LJ has bought from the Benfica academy before so likely he has a contact there.

I know that won’t suit the anti Ian Gordon narrative but worth mentioning all the same.

[flash]

He’s also saying LJ has bought from the Benfica academy before so likely he has a contact there.

I know that won’t suit the anti Ian Gordon narrative but worth mentioning all the same.

Adam Owen was a technical advisor at Benfica so presumably it's his recommendation.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Still think we need a CB (two if RP goes this window)

Well stocked for full backs

Looks like Kenneh is the 6, so we need an 8

Need a striker, I'm hoping Melkersen has had a good summer break, and gets a pre season to adapt to the pace and physicality of our league

Not a million miles off, and if we can fill those spaces with experience then we're in good shape. Last season was a mess, but we're still better than 4 of the teams that finished above us (over to you LJ...)

[GreenCastle]

Patrick saying as much now 👍

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/jair-tavares-set-for-hibs-medical-as-club-closes-in-on-benfica-forward-3731961

Left winger but can also play on the right - seams pretty comfortable with both feet.


Mueller / Murphy replacement - hopefully has more end product.

McGeady next ?

[bingo70]

Adam Owen was a technical advisor at Benfica so presumably it's his recommendation.

I didn’t realise that, that’s interesting, cheers.

So far we’ve signed from Portugal, Gambia and Australia. I wonder what other markets we are looking at we’ve just not heard about yet.

[WeeRussell]

Sadly, I think referees and Scottish media will force Ryan to leave for down south, and get Hibs a decent fee. Could be beneficial for both parties to be brutally honest - no doubting his ability and potential at all, but he is targeted by refs and that makes him (sadly) a liability to the team.

No this again…

Referees make Ryan Porteous a liability to the team 😂

[CL0762]

Tavares will rip up the league and make us about £6/£7m in 12-18 months time*

I reserve the right to delete this post should he turn out to be honking.

[SHODAN]

Tavares will rip up the league and make us about £6/£7m in 12-18 months time*

I reserve the right to delete this post should he turn out to be honking.

Screenshotted.

[easty]

Sadly, I think referees and Scottish media will force Ryan to leave for down south, and get Hibs a decent fee. Could be beneficial for both parties to be brutally honest - no doubting his ability and potential at all, but he is targeted by refs and that makes him (sadly) a liability to the team.

Ryan Porteous is not a liability to the team.

[truehibernian]

No this again…

Referees make Ryan Porteous a liability to the team 😂

Ryan often makes it easy for them but are you seriously suggesting refs in Scotland don’t put extra scrutiny on Ryan’s tackles and on field behaviour ? There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind certain referees have it in for him before he even runs out the tunnel - John Beaton for one 👍

[04Sauzee]

Aden Flint who I think some people thought we may be interested in has signed for Stoke.

[truehibernian]

Ryan Porteous is not a liability to the team.

He is if certain referees are not consistent and place extra scrutiny on Ryan as opposed to others. I rate him highly, my point is I think he’ll get better and be allowed to play his naturally aggressive game more fairly elsewhere - the refs and media up here definitely single him out wouldn’t you agree ?

[Smartie]

Screenshotted.

If he's pish, the forfeit must be singing "Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel" from the centre spot of a full Easter Road at half time.

[04Sauzee]

Newcastle are close to completing deal for Kilmarnock centre-back Charlie McArthur. Scotland youth international seen as huge prospect but sources at his club say it is difficult to stand in way when youngster is targeted by a Premier League club. #NUFC #Kilmarnock

[Since452]

Said it earlier but i do think that we have a lot of good players in this squad. For various reasons that have been done to death, we massivley underperformed last season. Actually quite excited about starting a fresh this season and pushing on again.

[Since452]

Tavares will rip up the league and make us about £6/£7m in 12-18 months time*

I reserve the right to delete this post should he turn out to be honking.

He sounds brilliant, his hair is brilliant so i agree :agree:

[B.H.F.C]

Ryan Porteous is not a liability to the team.

Definitely not when he’s in the team, easily our best defender. But he missed a quarter of the league season through suspension last season. I thought some of the decisions against him were ridiculous last season and I don’t see it changing.

[easty]

He is if certain referees are not consistent and place extra scrutiny on Ryan as opposed to others. I rate him highly, my point is I think he’ll get better and be allowed to play his naturally aggressive game more fairly elsewhere - the refs and media up here definitely single him out wouldn’t you agree ?

There’s been times I think he’s been treated harshly, but there’s been times I’ve felt like he’s given the ref the opportunity to make decisions that he didn’t have to.

I think he’s quality, and I’m in nae rush to see him leave.

[Tyler Durden]

Sadly, I think referees and Scottish media will force Ryan to leave for down south, and get Hibs a decent fee. Could be beneficial for both parties to be brutally honest - no doubting his ability and potential at all, but he is targeted by refs and that makes him (sadly) a liability to the team.

I don't disagree that it might be in everyone's interests for him to move.

I just don't see any team offering Hibs enough money this summer for it to be worth our while. His stock has fallen this year after all the red cards and the other nonsense. He's behind the likes of Halkett in the Scotland reckoning. Makes sense that he gets his head down this year and leaves for nothing next summer.

[bingo70]

Said it earlier but i do think that we have a lot of good players in this squad. For various reasons that have been done to death, we massivley underperformed last season. Actually quite excited about starting a fresh this season and pushing on again.

I agree, the big problem though is that all our good players were defence minded.

We need lots of genuine quality going forward from midfield, wings and forwards.

[easty]

I agree, the big problem though is that all our good players were defence minded.

We need lots of genuine quality going forward from midfield, wings and forwards.

Creativity, drive and excitement. Once Boyle moved on we were left with none. Jasper gave us about half an hour worth against Motherwell, but that was it.

[truehibernian]

There’s been times I think he’s been treated harshly, but there’s been times I’ve felt like he’s given the ref the opportunity to make decisions that he didn’t have to.

I think he’s quality, and I’m in nae rush to see him leave.

Neither am I - I suppose my post was lost in translation- it’s not Ryan’s ability I’m questioning, far from it. It’s the scrutiny he gets more than others from refs, the the media up here stoke it consistently.

He might feel, asides money, he’ll get a fairer crack of the whip elsewhere. I’d be building the team around him, just want much more fair play and consistent refereeing when he plays.

[Since452]

I agree, the big problem though is that all our good players were defence minded.

We need lots of genuine quality going forward from midfield, wings and forwards.

I hope the likes of Nisbet, Magennis and Mitchell will do that. It's a shame Kevin is going to be out a wee while longer. Looking forward to see who else we bring in.

[bingo70]

Creativity, drive and excitement. Once Boyle moved on we were left with none. Jasper gave us about half an hour worth against Motherwell, but that was it.

Couldn’t agree more.

I totally understand he was a once in a lifetime type player but I felt we really needed a Russel Latapy. Someone who could be our go to guy, someone we just had to get the ball to and he’d do the rest.

It’s been years since he was at Hibs so I don’t know why i thought about him in that team so much but he was the guy we needed last season.

[easty]

I hope the likes of Nisbet, Magennis and Mitchell will do that. It's a shame Kevin is going to be out a wee while longer. Looking forward to see who else we bring in.

I really hope that Johnson isn’t pinning our hopes on Magennis. We need to bring someone else in who can play in that role.

Magennis has quality, but we’d be nuts to assume he’s going to stay injury free. Learn from the past. Please.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Hopefully an attacking flair player on the way in then that can get fans of the seats and excite, how we have been crying out for it. We certainly seem like we could be pacey and energetic going forward down both sides this season, starting to feel a bit more optimistic that we may just have the guy here to deliver the style of football we want.

Still for me a gaping hole for me though in terms of strengthening in the middle of the park and up front that needs addressed. As No1 priority.

And fair to question how these signings so far fit into LJ's 4 - 8 - 4 model in terms of age and experience within the squad he mentioned previous. We still feel very light on experience and players where you are confident knowing exactly what you're getting at this level.

[Hibbyradge]

He is if certain referees are not consistent and place extra scrutiny on Ryan as opposed to others. I rate him highly, my point is I think he’ll get better and be allowed to play his naturally aggressive game more fairly elsewhere - the refs and media up here definitely single him out wouldn’t you agree ?

My view is that he gets pulled up because he makes stupid, reckless challenges which are often unnecessary.

Apart from the sending off against Sevco, how many times do folk think he's been unfairly treated? :dunno:

[McIntosh]

Just spoke with someone I know well and trust in Sheffield, he told me Utd have been speaking with Hibs about Doig. By all accounts, there is very strong interest. Apologies, if this has been posted previously.

[B.H.F.C]

My view is that he gets pulled up because he makes stupid, reckless challenges which are often unnecessary.

Apart from the sending off against Sevco, how many times do folk think he's been unfairly treated? :dunno:

Getting an additional game added to his ban for appealing the red card at Aberdeen. Something you never see happen when a player loses an appeal.

[easty]

Just spoke with someone I know well and trust in Sheffield, he told me Utd have been speaking with Hibs about Doig. By all accounts, there is very strong interest. Apologies, if this has been posted previously.

If there’s genuine interest from Italy as well, then I really think that’s a better move for him.

[04Sauzee]

Just spoke with someone I know well and trust in Sheffield, he told me Utd have been speaking with Hibs about Doig. By all accounts, there is very strong interest. Apologies, if this has been posted previously.

Read that Heckingbottom really wants to get his business done early this season. So if there is genuine interest I'd expect them to stop hanging around.
I hope if Doing goes he goes soon for his sake as even he said it affected him last season.

[Alfred E Newman]

I didn’t realise that, that’s interesting, cheers.

So far we’ve signed from Portugal, Gambia and Australia. I wonder what other markets we are looking at we’ve just not heard about yet.

I wonder if we will be signing anyone I've actually heard of.

[bingo70]

I wonder if we will be signing anyone I've actually heard of.

Anyone you’ve got in mind?

[Silky]

I wonder if we will be signing anyone I've actually heard of.

Sometimes that's maybe not a good thing!

[GreenCastle]

I wonder if we will be signing anyone I've actually heard of.

Drey Wright, James Scott, Chris Mueller, Jamie Murphy..

I don’t care if I’ve heard of the player or if they “look good on paper” - I just want players who will come in and improve the team.

Players like Liam Fontaine / Marvin Bartley for example.

[cameronw-hfc]

Drey Wright, James Scott, Chris Mueller, Jamie Murphy..

I don’t care if I’ve heard of the player or if they “look good on paper” - I just want players who will come in and improve the team.

Players like Liam Fontaine / Marvin Bartley for example.


Tbf both of those guys were pretty established English champ/league 1 players a lot already knew about, but I agree with your point

[Springbank]

Anyone you’ve got in mind?

I see what you are saying but I wouldn't dismiss the importance of people who know the league, the city and the opportunity that Hibs provide, as well as having an understanding that Hibs' blue chip fixtures (the Derbies, games v Rangers etc) rank highly in terms of importance to the league, as well as to the club & the fans.

The 2016 model of a Fyvie, McGinn, Henderson may be the extreme example (given the Cup win & beating Hearts & Rangers along the way).

But a few guys who have been around the league & are ready for the step up is good for the squad dynamics I think, and a good use of the loan market.

You asked for names.

I'd say Levitt (last season's Dundee Utd midfielder) fits that mould, in a position (midfield) where we were relegation-standard in last season.

[bingo70]

I see what you are saying but I wouldn't dismiss the importance of people who know the league, the city and the opportunity that Hibs provide, as well as having an understanding that Hibs' blue chip fixtures (the Derbies, games v Rangers etc) rank highly in terms of importance to the league, as well as to the club & the fans.

The 2016 model of a Fyvie, McGinn, Henderson may be the extreme example (given the Cup win & beating Hearts & Rangers along the way).

But a few guys who have been around the league & are ready for the step up is good for the squad dynamics I think, and a good use of the loan market.

You asked for names.

I'd say Levitt (last season's Dundee Utd midfielder) fits that mould, in a position (midfield) where we were relegation-standard in last season.

I don’t disagree with you.

My concern is that players we’ve heard of and are known to be good are normally also wanted by other teams with bigger budgets than us. In the past there’s been obvious targets but I don’t think there’s many of them this summer.

You’ve named one, Hungbo from Ross County (well Watford but you know what I mean) is another but there’s really not that many that I can think of within the Scottish game that is realistic.

If we’re taking about getting good experienced players in their prime that we’ve heard of, aged between 24-29 from down south then again that’s a very expensive market.

[Greenworld]

I don't disagree that it might be in everyone's interests for him to move.

I just don't see any team offering Hibs enough money this summer for it to be worth our while. His stock has fallen this year after all the red cards and the other nonsense. He's behind the likes of Halkett in the Scotland reckoning. Makes sense that he gets his head down this year and leaves for nothing next summer.We should never be in a position where a player of is standard leaves for nothing . If there is an offer of even close to 1 million then we must take it

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[Greenworld]

Now that hickey has been told he can leave bologna as long as 18 million is met. You have to assume if the rumours are true that is where Doig will head and hibs will get the in the region of 4 million.
That will be the catalyst for the experienced players signing . As LJ said these guys cost more .


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[Iain G]

I wonder if we will be signing anyone I've actually heard of.

I assume you have heard of David Marshall? If so then yes we have 🤣

[WeeRussell]

My view is that he gets pulled up because he makes stupid, reckless challenges which are often unnecessary.

Apart from the sending off against Sevco, how many times do folk think he's been unfairly treated? :dunno:

I genuinely didn’t think the rangers red card was unfair either in today’s game.. and I really like Porto, and think Gerard is a total prick.

I’m not saying he’s never been on the wrong end of a harsh decision but this idea that poor Ryan needs to flea the country because he’s being picked-on is lunacy.

If he stays at Hibs, does the right things as well as we know he can, he’ll stand out as one of the best defenders in the league (again) and won’t be sent-off by ANY referee.

If he leaves us it should be for decent money.

[Lago]

Sadly, I think referees and Scottish media will force Ryan to leave for down south, and get Hibs a decent fee. Could be beneficial for both parties to be brutally honest - no doubting his ability and potential at all, but he is targeted by refs and that makes him (sadly) a liability to the team.
Don't think it's being forced to leave, the boy is ambitious and wants to play at a higher level so he wants to move, England or elsewhere.

[JimBHibees]

Getting an additional game added to his ban for appealing the red card at Aberdeen. Something you never see happen when a player loses an appeal.

Yep clear evidence he is being treated worse than other players imo

[sadtom]

We should never be in a position where a player of is standard leaves for nothing . If there is an offer of even close to 1 million then we must take it

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Couldn’t disagree more.
Ryan playing for another full season is probably worth more than 1 million to Hibs.
Just the prize money alone for finishing a couple of places higher is a fair chunk of that.
Not to mention the fact that he is our best player, popular with the fans and players/club. And most importantly how much would he cost to replace?

Ideal scenario is that he signs a vastly improved deal. Plays another year or two, then gets a big move for himself and the club.
If he’s not going to sign…then we keep him for on other year and lose him for nowt which is a shame but unless there is an offer north of 2 million (unlikely with only a year left) then I would prefer another year of him playing than a mere million.

[WhileTheChief..]

I wonder if we will be signing anyone I've actually heard of.

Sadly I think the days of signing players we know or like is a thing of the past.

We’re casting our net wide to find promising youngsters from other countries. Chances of us knowing anything about them are practically nil.

[Since452]

I genuinely didn’t think the rangers red card was unfair either in today’s game.. and I really like Porto, and think Gerard is a total prick.

I’m not saying he’s never been on the wrong end of a harsh decision but this idea that poor Ryan needs to flea the country because he’s being picked-on is lunacy.

If he stays at Hibs, does the right things as well as we know he can, he’ll stand out as one of the best defenders in the league (again) and won’t be sent-off by ANY referee.

If he leaves us it should be for decent money.

It wasn't. It was a reckless lunge and he got what he deserved. Let everyone down that day and kick started the decline when we were going top of the league. Porteous is a brilliant player and a huge asset when he's playing but no good when he isnt through stupid suspensions.

[04Sauzee]

Sadly I think the days of signing players we know or like is a thing of the past.

We’re casting our net wide to find promising youngsters from other countries. Chances of us knowing anything about them are practically nil.

McGeady is still meant to be a live option though.

[Aldo]

It wasn't. It was a reckless lunge and he got what he deserved. Let everyone down that day and kick started the decline when we were going top of the league. Porteous is a brilliant player and a huge asset when he's playing but no good when he isnt through stupid suspensions.

It may not have been however the ref that day should have sent Lundstrum off for a shocker on Doig yet he wasn’t even spoken too.

What didn’t help was Aribo rolling about 20 times and screaming at top of his voice!


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[Mcbizz1998]

Sadly I think the days of signing players we know or like is a thing of the past.

We’re casting our net wide to find promising youngsters from other countries. Chances of us knowing anything about them are practically nil.

What you on about? We just signed Marshall ffs.

[Smartie]

I don’t disagree with you.

My concern is that players we’ve heard of and are known to be good are normally also wanted by other teams with bigger budgets than us. In the past there’s been obvious targets but I don’t think there’s many of them this summer.

You’ve named one, Hungbo from Ross County (well Watford but you know what I mean) is another but there’s really not that many that I can think of within the Scottish game that is realistic.

If we’re taking about getting good experienced players in their prime that we’ve heard of, aged between 24-29 from down south then again that’s a very expensive market.

The "Scottish player who has moved down South but not quite made it and needs to come back up the road to get first team football" is a category I quite like.

Scott Allan. Fraser Fyvie. Steven Kingsley. That sort of thing.

So we've heard of them, they've made a promising start to their career but fallen away a wee bit in their early 20s. They'll be at the higher end of what we're able to pay but should have the ability to come in and be an upgrade on what we already have, whilst having a bit of hunger to prove a point.

They're not players who are necessarily at their peak and therefore out of our range but they may be reaching it within a couple of years.

[Springbank]

The "Scottish player who has moved down South but not quite made it and needs to come back up the road to get first team football" is a category I quite like.

Scott Allan. Fraser Fyvie. Steven Kingsley. That sort of thing.

So we've heard of them, they've made a promising start to their career but fallen away a wee bit in their early 20s. They'll be at the higher end of what we're able to pay but should have the ability to come in and be an upgrade on what we already have, whilst having a bit of hunger to prove a point.

They're not players who are necessarily at their peak and therefore out of our range but they may be reaching it within a couple of years.

Agree with both yourself and Bingo here. It's a good market where the player is hungry to make up for lost time.

Heard a rumour a month back about McGrandles (ex Falkirk) as one of this type of potential signing but that's all gone quiet

[scoopyboy]

The "Scottish player who has moved down South but not quite made it and needs to come back up the road to get first team football" is a category I quite like.

Scott Allan. Fraser Fyvie. Steven Kingsley. That sort of thing.

So we've heard of them, they've made a promising start to their career but fallen away a wee bit in their early 20s. They'll be at the higher end of what we're able to pay but should have the ability to come in and be an upgrade on what we already have, whilst having a bit of hunger to prove a point.

They're not players who are necessarily at their peak and therefore out of our range but they may be reaching it within a couple of years.

Agree completely, players we couldn't afford to sign from their Scottish clubs but get them on the rebound.

Jason Kerr or Alan Campbell would fit that bill nicely.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Agree completely, players we couldn't afford to sign from their Scottish clubs but get them on the rebound.

Jason Kerr or Alan Campbell would fit that bill nicely.

Might have to wait a while for either of them


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[oneone73]

Agree completely, players we couldn't afford to sign from their Scottish clubs but get them on the rebound.

Jason Kerr or Alan Campbell would fit that bill nicely.

Don't think Campbell falls into that category considering he just got capped.

[Brightside]

Don't think Campbell falls into that category considering he just got capped.

Both would be massive signings. Not a chance I'd have thought.

[GloryGlory]

Tavares passes medical.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-close-in-on-benfica-youngster-jair-tavares-and-ex-celtic-forward-aiden-mcgeady-is-still-an-option-3732776

[WhileTheChief..]

What you on about? We just signed Marshall ffs.

What’s with the xxxxxxx aggressive post?

Calm the xxxx down. FFs.

[scoopyboy]

Don't think Campbell falls into that category considering he just got capped.

At the moment I agree but things can change quite quickly.

Chris Cadden got capped.

[Northernhibee]

Tavares passes medical.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-close-in-on-benfica-youngster-jair-tavares-and-ex-celtic-forward-aiden-mcgeady-is-still-an-option-3732776

Another signing where multiple clubs were chasing his signature, it's the new praising of the training facilities :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

At the moment I agree but things can change quite quickly.

Chris Cadden got capped.

He was but I think they were giving out Caps to anyone against Mexico and Peru 😁

I take your point though things can change quickly in football.

[Onceinawhile]

He was but I think they were giving out Caps to anyone against Mexico and Peru 😁

I take your point though things can change quickly in football.

I hope you aren't suggesting that's the only reason Lewis Stevenson got capped. Bordering on Blasphemy that is.

[04Sauzee]

I hope you aren't suggesting that's the only reason Lewis Stevenson got capped. Bordering on Blasphemy that is.

😂 Don't worry I took myself into the next room and had a word with myself.

[Springbank]

I hope you aren't suggesting that's the only reason Lewis Stevenson got capped. Bordering on Blasphemy that is.

I was more thinking Dylan McGeough

I feel sorry to say that, as Dylan played some of the finest midfield performances I've seen at Easter Road.

I remember Kenny Millar's line about Dylan's masterclass in the Natural Order derby. And it was spot on:

"21 people came to Easter Road tonight to play an Edinburgh Derby. Dylan McGeough came here tonight to play football...."

He threw away a lot (in sporting terms) going to Sunderland, but I daresay the financial rewards were too tempting to resist. We'd probably all find it difficult to turn down big money like that.

[RossScott1991]

Attackers are welcome.

However unless we fix the middle of the park with another addition or two I feel you will see the same struggles.

IMHO