Summer 2022-23 transfer thread

[HoboHarry]

Posters with concerns about the club because we've signed a young laddie with potential. This place a madhouse. Lol....

[Keepthefaith]

Some kind of Mr Bojangles song for him, surely.

Mama do do do scores a goal and then gets two, mama do do do set him up and he'll get three

Might need some work on the second line 😂

[Since452]

Do we know this is a cheap, risk free punt?

If the guy had options from the MLS, Portugal and Sweden then it's fair to assume we had to put together a fairly attarctive package.

Every signing I'd a risk but he's not going to be here for £500 a week. When we are trying to squeeze every penny a glut of youngsters essentially playing development football all adds up. The gamble is obviously that 1 or 2 make it, produce the goods then make us money in the medium to long term.

All we know is that if he's fantastic we can sign him permanently and if he's not then he goes back to Ghana. Complete guess but I'd imagine the potential permanent transfer fee is quite attractive to his parent club. Will probably have add-ons etc.

[007]

Why do all our signing announcements have quotes from Ian Gordon??
His role in our signings was played way down by Ron in his interviews after Maloney went. Would rather hear more about why Johnson wants the player.

Do you mean like the quote from him that was above the Ian Gordon one?

On the signing, Hibernian FC Manager Lee Johnson said: “We welcome Momodou to the Club with open arms.

“There was a lot of interest in him from Portugal, Sweden, and in the MLS, but he chose Hibs to be his home.

“He’s a player that’s incredibly hungry to succeed and I’m looking forward to seeing how quickly he can adapt to the Scottish game.

“I’m really pleased that we have an option to turn his loan into a permanent transfer as it gives him an added incentive to be a real success with us.”

[Fergus52]

How on earth, have we got data on this guy?

Have we just seen YouTube clips and some FM stats or something?

Bizarre signing.

Thought I'd check them after seeing your post :greengrin

They're pretty decent for a 19 year old playing in Africa

15 flair and determination, 13 anticipation decisions dribbling and finishing.

https://fminside.net/players/2-fm-22/12092858-momodou-bojang

[Hibees1973]

Why do all our signing announcements have quotes from Ian Gordon??
His role in our signings was played way down by Ron in his interviews after Maloney went. Would rather hear more about why Johnson wants the player.

Exactly my thoughts. The structure of the club has not changed in the last year, which is still the main problem. Seems to me that Ron's son and his recruitment team are running the show. What role did Johnson play in signing this player, has he seen him play. I doubt it.

I seethe when Ron's son pops up with his announcements. Nepotism at it's worst.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Some people just choose to be optimistic. Nowt wrong with that.

And that's what ultimately leads to disappointment and discontent when the player doesn't score hat tricks every week. If hearts made this signing, would we be scared of laughing?

The latter. 100%

[bingo70]

You've done excellent work there pulling out one exceptional example of, probably, thousands and thousands of players who've done the same and had mixed to poor results. Perhaps you could find significantly more data to back it up and I'll be more excited, as it stands though I'm concerned.

Lots of data to suggest players don't come into their own until their 3rd senior loan spell. How does that fit into our new model?

I never, it was another poster who mentioned Mane. Would you have signed Mane though or would you have ignored him because of where he was coming from?

I’ve no idea about this guy, but there must be hundreds of good African players that move from there to European clubs? Someone else says it’s common in France for it to happen.

I love that we’re trying something a bit different.

[Heisenberg]

Exactly my thoughts. The structure of the club has not changed in the last year, which is still the main problem. Seems to me that Ron's son and his recruitment team are running the show. What role did Johnson play in signing this player, has he seen him play. I doubt it.

I seethe when Ron's son pops up with his announcements. Nepotism at it's worst.

EEN saying he was recommended to Lee Johnson by someone he knows in the game.

Same article also says another new signing in the next 24 hours.

[HoboHarry]

All we know is that if he's fantastic we can sign him permanently and if he's not then he goes back to Ghana. Complete guess but I'd imagine the potential permanent transfer fee is quite attractive to his parent club. Will probably have add-ons etc.

Gambia mate.....

[hibsbollah]

Mr Bojangles is more of a ballad, not sure it scans very well. Great song mind.

Incidentally, when did Gambia stop being ‘The’ Gambia? Some colonial baggage?

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[hibsforeurope]

I’ve no opinion on the player, until he plays we won’t know.
My big concern is the amount of loan players were signing, at some point we need to back out transfer policy and start signing permanent deals and build some stable foundations.how many of the loans have we actually taken the options on.

[Since452]

And that's what ultimately leads to disappointment and discontent when the player doesn't score hat tricks every week. If hearts made this signing, would we be scared of laughing?

The latter. 100%

So we should all just be miserable *******s when we sign someone then?

[The Spaceman]

Would love to hear the story of how we have come to sign Momodu Bojang/what’s made him decide to come to Scotland! Love these kind of signings, complete bolt from the blue.

[Logie]

Mama do do do scores a goal and then gets two, mama do do do set him up and he'll get three

Might need some work on the second line 😂

Mama do do do I wanna be like you oo oo I wanna shoot like you and score like you doooooo

I’ll get ma coat.

[Mon Dieu4]

Mr Bojangles is more of a ballad, not sure it scans very well. Great song mind.

Incidentally, when did Gambia stop being ‘The’ Gambia? Some colonial baggage?

New West African hero for us to get behind:thumbsup:

[Since452]

Gambia mate.....

That's the one!

[Willis1875]

I’ve no opinion on the player, until he plays we won’t know.
My big concern is the amount of loan players were signing, at some point we need to back out transfer policy and start signing permanent deals and build some stable foundations.how many of the loans have we actually taken the options on.

2 of our 3 summer signings are permanent transfers,we also have a good few players on long term contracts which is building foundations for the future

[Hibernian Verse]

I’ve no opinion on the player, until he plays we won’t know.
My big concern is the amount of loan players were signing, at some point we need to back out transfer policy and start signing permanent deals and build some stable foundations.how many of the loans have we actually taken the options on.

So we should’ve signed those players permanently and then had to keep them on the books after they proved to be gash?

Every club in the world has loan players. Barca will be delighted they didn’t sign Adama Traore on a 5 year deal.

[Mr. Wonderful]

So we should all just be miserable *******s when we sign someone then?

You can choose to continue to be miserable if you want. I'll choose to continue to be honest, sceptical and optimistic.

[SteveHFC]

Melkersen and Bojang leading us to the treble.

[Willis1875]

Wonder if we would have turned our noses up at a 17yo Anthony Stokes because he hadn’t had any first team appearances before Falkirk brought him in on loan.
The way forward for Hibs is surely signing experienced pros like Shefki Kuqi,Rowan Vine and such like

[Unseen work]

The thing with these stats and data I’m sure there’s average players in the lower Scottish leagues that have similar physical attributes.

I would think if he was any good he would have at least made a sub appearance for the Portuguese team? Think they finished mid table.

Like I said I’m willing to give the boy a chance but for me this has to be the last unknown young signing this window.

It’s quality and experience we badly need

[Lester B]

You can choose to continue to be miserable if you want. I'll choose to continue to be honest, sceptical and optimistic.

Come off it. You make Leonard Cohen sound like the Laughing Policeman

[StevesFamau5]

I have spent all of 5 minutes finding 3 examples of players currently in the Premier League who have come from African teams and built success despite their age.

Emmanual Dennis of Watford, started in Nigeria at Abuja College.
Patson Daka of Leicester, started in his homeland of Zambia at Kafau Celtic
Marvelous Nakamba at Villa, started in Zimbabwe at local team Bantu Rovers.

[Gordy M]

I think there will be a 'bigger' signing tomorrow and thats why this one has been 'rushed' out this eve, so as not to deflect from tomorrow.

[Leighonel]

Find it a bit of a strange time to announce a signing. 9 at night whilst Scotland are on

Completely agree.

Suggests to me he could be a B team signing, very much a back up to the first team.

[Hibernian Verse]

The thing with these stats and data I’m sure there’s average players in the lower Scottish leagues that have similar physical attributes.

I would think if he was any good he would have at least made a sub appearance for the Portuguese team? Think they finished mid table.

Like I said I’m willing to give the boy a chance but for me this has to be the last unknown young signing this window.

It’s quality and experience we badly need

If we sign some quality and experienced players we can absolutely add more young guns and try to develop them.

The club will be trying to do everything right this pre season.

[ElginHibbie]

You can choose to continue to be miserable if you want. I'll choose to continue to be honest, sceptical and optimistic.

:rotflmao:

[Brightside]

What is wrong with people. It’s a cheap gamble. Take a day of the moaning FFS.

[Northern Hibby]

Young but seemingly interest from other clubs, hopefully bring in an older striker to help these young strikers we have.


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Like Shefki Kuqi 🤣

[HoboHarry]

The thing with these stats and data I’m sure there’s average players in the lower Scottish leagues that have similar physical attributes.

I would think if he was any good he would have at least made a sub appearance for the Portuguese team? Think they finished mid table.

Like I said I’m willing to give the boy a chance but for me this has to be the last unknown young signing this window.

It’s quality and experience we badly need

Who says we won't sign experienced players? Nothing wrong with building for the future at the same time.

[JimBHibees]

What is wrong with people. It’s a cheap gamble. Take a day of the moaning FFS.

ExactLy glad we are trying out players in other markets. Let's see what the guy has got. Apparently pace you which is exactly what we need

[IberianHibernian]

Interesting signing . Congratulations to recruitment team . Hopefully there`ll be no problems with paperwork . I think a lot of people still don`t accept market we sign in . Players from lower divisions in Scotland except the odd really good player who`ll go to Old Firm or England which limits us to Tait , Mackie type risky signings with young players , players from lower league England who aren`t good enough to be signed by bigger English clubs so probably nothing special or had injury problems or are still very young . Very young players from abroad like this signing or 2 Norwegians . If this latest signing doesn`t work out he`ll join the long list of young players who leave us every year . If it does , then we could be onto something massive with the scarcity of good strikers everywhere .

[hibsforeurope]

So we should’ve signed those players permanently and then had to keep them on the books after they proved to be gash?

Every club in the world has loan players. Barca will be delighted they didn’t sign Adama Traore on a 5 year deal.

No, I’m saying we should do more than sign a punt on loan based on his data. What happened to actually watching a player rather than looking at numbers. Data doesn’t give you the standard of the opposition or the players he’s okaying with. Data can be easily skewed.

Barca are skint, in relative terms, and are not shopping at the same level as before. We have £3m from the sale of our best player to find a replacement, that’s big money in our terms.

[Sir David Gray]

My concerns about where the club is heading at the moment are quite well documented however I don't think any of us can have any opinion either way on this signing as I'm assuming no-one on here has heard of Rainbow FC, never mind watched any of their matches.

We just need to hope that it turns out well and I think most people will agree that hopefully our next few signings will be experienced players.

I'll leave it at that.

[Willis1875]

Ian Gordon needs to start making better use of the football manager filter system:
Club Appearances-100+
Age-25+

[Hibees1973]

EEN saying he was recommended to Lee Johnson by someone he knows in the game.

Same article also says another new signing in the next 24 hours.

Well if the next signing is of a similar standard, level and experience this place will be in meltdown.

[thebausburst]

Well if the next signing is of a similar standard, level and experience this place will be in meltdown.

We desperately need some real known quality additions to the squad, still early on in the window so hopefully they’re coming.

[HoboHarry]

Well if the next signing is of a similar standard, level and experience this place will be in meltdown.

Only amongst the half a heids trying to shout the loudest. The rest of us will recognize building for the future when we see it.

[Unseen work]

I think there will be a 'bigger' signing tomorrow and thats why this one has been 'rushed' out this eve, so as not to deflect from tomorrow.

This did cross my mind due to the time it was announced.

Not making a huge deal and then announce another tomorrow 🤞

[flash]

Well if the next signing is of a similar standard, level and experience this place will be in meltdown.

You mean you will be in meltdown.

[Unseen work]

Who says we won't sign experienced players? Nothing wrong with building for the future at the same time.

I’m not saying we won’t, but I feel this is the 3rd window in a row we’ve been needing it so I’m a bit scared it goes the same as previous ones.

I’ve no issue with building for the future, but I think we already have a huge quantity of young good players at the club.

[B.H.F.C]

Only amongst the half a heids trying to shout the loudest. The rest of us will recognize building for the future when we see it.

There’s building for the future but the majority of our signings last year were with that in mind and we all know how that turned out.

Think we can all accept that there is a need for a club like us to take a bit of a punt now and again. But we need players who are for the present as well.

[Willis1875]

Think this kind of follows Lee Johnson’s pattern of signings at Sunderland last summer,There was a lot of youth brought in with sprinklings of Experience

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/momodou-bojang-hibs-complete-loan-signing-of-gambian-attacker-but-ex-easter-road-man-unlikely-to-return-3725071

Johnson apparently aware of him for some time.

The Patrick is saying there could be more announcements this week makes me think there 100% will be.

[Tricla]

You can choose to continue to be miserable if you want. I'll choose to continue to be honest, sceptical and optimistic.

And I'll sit tight until you display the last one of those three.

[one day maybe...]

Guy who plays/played up front for Chesterfield and was on fire as they looked likely automatic promotion candidates until he pick up a season ending injury, would be worth a gamble on a two year contract.
Gamble because he might mot fully recover but Chesterfields season went down hill rapidly when he got injured.
Nothing is guaranteed in football even when paying millions.

Players name Kabongo TshimangaTshimanga, age 24, Their top scorer with 25 goals even though he was injured mid Feb.

[Brown Hibs]

Ian Gordon needs to start making better use of the football manager filter system:
Club Appearances-100+
Age-25+

😂😂 There certainly seems to be a specific profile of player, desperate to unearth a superstar that will make the club millions. Unfortunately you need to pepper the team with experienced pros to bring the players on. Too many projects so far.

[Silky]

Laptop signings. Data looks good. What a time to be a fan.

Is that not how we analysed potential managers? "Oh, his win rate is x, his is y". That's data as well, no? Ok for picking managers but not players:confused:

[RyeSloan]

No, I’m saying we should do more than sign a punt on loan based on his data. What happened to actually watching a player rather than looking at numbers. Data doesn’t give you the standard of the opposition or the players he’s okaying with. Data can be easily skewed.

Barca are skint, in relative terms, and are not shopping at the same level as before. We have £3m from the sale of our best player to find a replacement, that’s big money in our terms.

How do you know it was only based on data?

The EEN suggests there was a recommendation made directly to the manager.

Maybe the data and feedback from a source provided more than enough info to suggest he would be worth exploring.

And do you not think the recruitment team know that data can be skewed? And are you suggesting that because it can be it should just be disregarded?

Honestly if it wasn’t Ian Gordon and was another person with the same title I doubt half of this stuff would be getting spouted.

Let’s see how he gets on and I for one quite like our approach on these youngsters…as I’m confident we’ll see other, more experienced names added in due course.

[CapitalGreen]

Completely agree.

Suggests to me he could be a B team signing, very much a back up to the first team.

We announce development team signings as development team signings and would typically have a comment from Steve Kean. Bojang is a first team signing.

[Northernhibee]

Thought I'd check them after seeing your post :greengrin

They're pretty decent for a 19 year old playing in Africa

15 flair and determination, 13 anticipation decisions dribbling and finishing.

https://fminside.net/players/2-fm-22/12092858-momodou-bojang
Bit concerned that he weighs 0KG, seems a bit lightweight for this league

[Stokesy's on fire]

Nope, nor Boozy or Latapy!

Or De La Cruz...we stopped shopping abroad for a long time i'm glad we are looking at options abroad again.

[GreenCastle]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/momodou-bojang-hibs-complete-loan-signing-of-gambian-attacker-but-ex-easter-road-man-unlikely-to-return-3725071

Johnson apparently aware of him for some time.

The Patrick is saying there could be more announcements this week makes me think there 100% will be.

Yup will be surprised if 1 or 2 aren’t announced before weekend possibly linked to new strip launch also.

[One Day Soon]

There's a reason this signing was announced at the time it was and during a Scotland game. It's a punt, not a first team player. Maybe he'll make good, maybe he won't. Most don't, but we'll see.

Looking forward to the serious signings.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Find it a bit of a strange time to announce a signing. 9 at night whilst Scotland are on
...because tomorrow is going to be a busy day?

[Spudster]

Ian Gordon needs to start making better use of the football manager filter system:
Club Appearances-100+
Age-25+
Bin the wonderkid and go for journeyman would be one way of looking at that policy.

[HoboHarry]

Bit concerned that he weighs 0KG, seems a bit lightweight for this league
Especially since he is 175cm tall. Maybe the Fibonacci Sequence can make sense of that .....



:greengrin

[Willis1875]

Bin the wonderkid and go for journeyman would be one way of looking at that policy.

Yep,that’s been a roaring success in the past

[ElginHibbie]

I know nothing about the guy, but signings like this and Kenneh are exciting to me

We need to balance it out with signings like Marshall, but I am hopeful club has learned their lessons

See what position we are in a month from now before I'll let any worry set in

[Silky]

And that's what ultimately leads to disappointment and discontent when the player doesn't score hat tricks every week. If hearts made this signing, would we be scared of laughing?

The latter. 100%

If Hearts made this signing and the guy turned out to be good, Hibs would be slaughtered for not finding him/being aware of him etc. Club canny win.

[J-C]

We have looked at other clubs getting little gems and we moan about not spreading our net wider, we get a young Gambian lad with potential and little cost and folk still moan, remember Benji, Zemmama, Sproule, Boozy all came from obscurity, a wee punt that if it works good but if not, nothing lost.

[Unseen work]

If Hearts made this signing and the guy turned out to be good, Hibs would be slaughtered for not finding him/being aware of him etc. Club canny win.

You’re right, but it’s a big if.

But if Hearts made this signing this place would also find if comical that they’ve loaned a 20 year old striker from Rainbow FC who last season was on loan at a mid table Portuguese teams under 23 squad.

[Unseen work]

Moira Gordon

“Bojang is expected to address the paucity of speed in the frontline following last season’s departure of Martin Boyle and more new signings are expected to follow in the next 24 hours and beyond as Johnson readies himself to welcome the squad back for pre-season on June 18.”

Intrigued to see who these new signings this week are

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/momodou-bojang-hibs-land-gambian-striker-nicknamed-major-with-further-signings-expected-and-emmanuel-longelo-update-3725072?amp

[green day]

Hearts signed guys we have never heard of from Australia and who turned out ok.

Can anyone say they had ever heard of that Devlin guy before he signed?

Some people on here live to moan.

[Mr. Wonderful]

You’re right, but it’s a big if.

But if Hearts made this signing this place would also find if comical that they’ve loaned a 20 year old striker from Rainbow FC who last season was on loan at a mid table Portuguese teams under 23 squad.

This. Concerns are natural at this stage. Not "negative"

[J-C]

We signed a guy called Jamie Insall on a punt which didn't work out, it cost us very little at the time, some work, some don't.

[GreenCastle]

Hearts signed guys we have never heard of from Australia and who turned out ok.

Can anyone say they had ever heard of that Devlin guy before he signed?

Some people on here live to moan.

To be fair a few posters who live in Oz have recommended a few Oz players to Hibs.

Players like Devlin etc are less risky especially with A league experience.

The window opens Friday - I expect us to start signing 1st team regular players soon as the team needs at least 5. Marshall is an upgrade on the GK position so that’s a start.

The rest of the team still needs serious work. We can’t rely on these youngsters if we want to progress.

[Brown Hibs]

Hearts signed guys we have never heard of from Australia and who turned out ok.

Can anyone say they had ever heard of that Devlin guy before he signed?

Some people on here live to moan.

He did play some first team football though. This guy comes from a club I can't even find on Google. Not writing him off, he must have shown something somewhere.

[Sir David Gray]

Hearts signed guys we have never heard of from Australia and who turned out ok.

Can anyone say they had ever heard of that Devlin guy before he signed?

Some people on here live to moan.

To be fair prior to signing for Hearts Devlin had A-League experience with two different clubs and had played for Australia at the Olympics, he's probably not comparable to this guy.

I do take your general point though, he could be a great success.

[hibee-boys]

If this guy works out well there could be a pot of gold waiting for us….

[Unseen work]

For those that think we’re being negative it’s not, on my part anyway, all at Bojang.

It’s more that it’s been 12 months now if little quality and claiming we’re discovering the next big thing.


Signings in last 12 months

Dan McKay
Dylan Tait
Jake Doyle Hayes
Nathan Wood
David Mitchell
Chris Mueller
James Scott

Ewan Henderson
Harry Clarke
Elias Melkersen
Runar Hauge
Demi Mitchell
Rocky Bushiri
Sylvester Jasper

David Marshall
Nonah Kenneh
Momodou Bojang

In fairness to the club I think this summer they will spend a fair bit to get it right, get fans onside and rectify some of the previous windows but I get peoples concerns.

[Col2]

We’re competing for 3rd place with 2 clubs who have bigger budgets than us. We need to think outside the box and try something different.

High risk strategy then. Investing in talent I am all for but this is a pure punt. We can’t seriously think we have had this guy scouted for a while? His agent will be chums with Gordon or the invisible CEO

[Heisenberg]

High risk strategy then. Investing in talent I am all for but this is a pure punt. We can’t seriously think we have had this guy scouted for a while? His agent will be chums with Gordon or the invisible CEO

“It is understood that his performances there attracted wider recognition and the attention of one of Hibs manager Lee Johnson’s contacts, who recommended the youngster to the Easter Road boss. Hibs have an option to buy next summer if he impresses.”

[CapitalGreen]

High risk strategy then. Investing in talent I am all for but this is a pure punt. We can’t seriously think we have had this guy scouted for a while? His agent will be chums with Gordon or the invisible CEO

Wrong.


It is understood that his performances there attracted wider recognition and the attention of one of Hibs manager Lee Johnson’s contacts, who recommended the youngster to the Easter Road boss.

[cameronw-hfc]

High risk strategy then. Investing in talent I am all for but this is a pure punt. We can’t seriously think we have had this guy scouted for a while? His agent will be chums with Gordon or the invisible CEO

The scapegoating of Ian Gordon is absolutely mental on here. Lee Johnson has previous for signing foreign players, he also mentioned the contacts he has around the world, and there's articles suggesting the boys name was given to LJ by someone he knows.

But on here Hibs.neters know more, and it's Ian Gordon signing and not LJ. Ffs, pack it in. Hes been a scapegoat since he got here and im yet to see absolutely any proof he's the man scouting all these players, and not just dealing with the negotiations/contracts.

Our signings were crap before he came along, anyone remember Feruz? Rheeras? Eckersly? Bigirimana? Hyndman? Sinclair? Darnell Johnson, Nelom, Agyepong, need I go on?

To me anyway, our recruitment is no better and no worse than its ever been, yet one glance on here and you'd think Ian Gordon is ruining Hibs.

Folk clearly didn't take to Ron when he came in and Ian Gordon being hired just gives those folk that are desperate to criticise him yet another stick to beat him with.

[Willis1875]

The scapegoating of Ian Gordon is absolutely mental on here. Lee Johnson has previous for signing foreign players, he also mentioned the contacts he has around the world, and there's articles suggesting the boys name was given to LJ by someone he knows.

But on here Hibs.neters know more, and it's Ian Gordon signing and not LJ. Ffs, pack it in. Hes been a scapegoat since he got here and im yet to see absolutely any proof he's the man scouting all these players, and not just dealing with the negotiations/contracts.

Our signings were crap before he came along, anyone remember Feruz? Rheeras? Eckersly? Bigirimana? Hyndman? Sinclair? Darnell Johnson, Nelom, Agyepong, need I go on?

To me anyway, our recruitment is no better and no worse than its ever been, yet one glance on here and you'd think Ian Gordon is ruining Hibs.

Folk clearly didn't take to Ron when he came in and Ian Gordon being hired just gives those folk that are desperate to criticise him yet another stick to beat him with.

Well said Sir 👏🏻

[Col2]

The scapegoating of Ian Gordon is absolutely mental on here. Lee Johnson has previous for signing foreign players, he also mentioned the contacts he has around the world, and there's articles suggesting the boys name was given to LJ by someone he knows.

But on here Hibs.neters know more, and it's Ian Gordon signing and not LJ. Ffs, pack it in. Hes been a scapegoat since he got here and im yet to see absolutely any proof he's the man scouting all these players, and not just dealing with the negotiations/contracts.

Our signings were crap before he came along, anyone remember Feruz? Rheeras? Eckersly? Bigirimana? Hyndman? Sinclair? Darnell Johnson, Nelom, Agyepong, need I go on?

To me anyway, our recruitment is no better and no worse than its ever been, yet one glance on here and you'd think Ian Gordon is ruining Hibs.

Folk clearly didn't take to Ron when he came in and Ian Gordon being hired just gives those folk that are desperate to criticise him yet another stick to beat him with.

Gordon is very prominent in press releases of signings. He made it clear they had been watching him and his data was strong. Our last two windows have been dreadful. 20 year old loan players from Rainbow FC (who we loaned to an U23 team) are hardly inspiring.

[Logie]

The scapegoating of Ian Gordon is absolutely mental on here. Lee Johnson has previous for signing foreign players, he also mentioned the contacts he has around the world, and there's articles suggesting the boys name was given to LJ by someone he knows.

But on here Hibs.neters know more, and it's Ian Gordon signing and not LJ. Ffs, pack it in. Hes been a scapegoat since he got here and im yet to see absolutely any proof he's the man scouting all these players, and not just dealing with the negotiations/contracts.

Our signings were crap before he came along, anyone remember Feruz? Rheeras? Eckersly? Bigirimana? Hyndman? Sinclair? Darnell Johnson, Nelom, Agyepong, need I go on?

To me anyway, our recruitment is no better and no worse than its ever been, yet one glance on here and you'd think Ian Gordon is ruining Hibs.

Folk clearly didn't take to Ron when he came in and Ian Gordon being hired just gives those folk that are desperate to criticise him yet another stick to beat him with.

Spot on this mate.. how many threads were created calling Petrie/farmer out? Folk need to embrace the change and give the guys a chance!

[Iain G]

High risk strategy then. Investing in talent I am all for but this is a pure punt. We can’t seriously think we have had this guy scouted for a while? His agent will be chums with Gordon or the invisible CEO

Maybe you should do some reading up before launching into your wee rant 🙄

[cameronw-hfc]

Gordon is very prominent in press releases of signings. He made it clear they had been watching him and his data was strong. Our last two windows have been dreadful. 20 year old loan players from Rainbow FC (who we loaned to an U23 team) are hardly inspiring.



I would fully expect him to be involved in the press releases of signings. He does run the department that deals with scouting...doesnt seem like anything fishy or even wrong here.

Who have we signed from Rainbow FC and sent on loan to an Under 23s team? Must have missed that one.

[Greenbeard]

Some kind of Mr Bojangles song for him, surely.
Bojang-goals surely.

[WeeRussell]

He was recommended to the new manager by someone he knows.

Nae good to me if Mr OddQuibble hasn’t heard of him.

Let’s just start the puns again until we sign someone from match of the day.

[CapitalGreen]

2 good poachers finishes from a few weeks ago for Famalicao’s 2nd and 3rd goals. https://youtu.be/-dsLmdpjiaY

80th minute headed winner from back in April. https://youtu.be/B6NPSQ6od8g

Scores the opening goal here picking up the ball just inside to opposition half before running through and slotting home 1v1. https://youtu.be/gU8GyzO0VS8

[Col2]

I would fully expect him to be involved in the press releases of signings. He does run the department that deals with scouting...doesnt seem like anything fishy or even wrong here.

Who have we signed from Rainbow FC and sent on loan to an Under 23s team? Must have missed that one.

Our new recruit has been signed from Rainbow FC after he was loaned to an U23 team in Portugal.

[cameronw-hfc]

Our new recruit has been signed from Rainbow FC after he was loaned to an U23 team in Portugal.

I know, the poster I replied to said we signed him and loaned him to an U23 squad which is blatantly false and another example of someone having a go for the sake of it without actually doing any of their own research.

Edit- didn't realise it was you I replied to, if it was a typo I apologise for seeming snarky, just sick of the negativity around literally every single announcement.

[Col2]

Maybe you should do some reading up before launching into your wee rant 🙄

Hardly a rant. I am allowed to question the clubs recruitment approach.

A few things we universally agree on is our recent recruitment has been poor (last two windows), our manager(s) have underperformed and we need a transformation in squad quality while recognizing our squad is too heavy in numbers.

Therefore expectations……

[Smartie]

“It is understood that his performances there attracted wider recognition and the attention of one of Hibs manager Lee Johnson’s contacts, who recommended the youngster to the Easter Road boss. Hibs have an option to buy next summer if he impresses.”

Anyone else now reading this as “Hibs have once more retained the right to be able to get shot of him after a year if, as is probably expected, he ends up being a bit pish?”

[Franck Stanton]

Anyone else now reading this as “Hibs have once more retained the right to be able to get shot of him after a year if, as is probably expected, he ends up being a bit pish?”

Nope

[Forza Fred]

Well if the next signing is of a similar standard, level and experience this place will be in meltdown.

How can you gauge the ‘standard’ if you haven’t seen him in action?

[h185forever]

Zippy has been watching him through the round window, so let’s give him a chance ffs

[scotiaf]

Scottish league does not have many fast players in general, think Ivan when he came to us. If he has pace and he can finish then he will do ok .

[Dmas]

Hardly a rant. I am allowed to question the clubs recruitment approach.

A few things we universally agree on is our recent recruitment has been poor (last two windows), our manager(s) have underperformed and we need a transformation in squad quality while recognizing our squad is too heavy in numbers.

Therefore expectations……

No one is trying to take away your right to question the approach but what it seems like your after is hibs to be spending money on every signing and the signing has to be in a certain age bracket....and now it matters what the name of the club is cause if it sounds silly the player must be gash.....and if we sign someone meeting your criteria and IG is mentioned in the press release its a stich up as well

Hibs wont ever meet your standards at this rate Col, Hibs have stated the intention is to bring in young players and develop them to move them on since at least when Mathie took over from George Craig, its no surprise to see us sign young players, the journeyman option absolutely hammered us for about 10 years prior to relegation under butcher, we all know we could do with some experience, even the gaffer he's on record saying he likes a few older heads in and around his squads in interview out last week but you cant surely expect every player coming in to fit that mould it makes no sense to the club especially IF at one stage there's a fee involved.

[OldEast]

Well if the next signing is of a similar standard, level and experience this place will be in meltdown.

Speak for yourself. I'll maintain my optimism unless and until performances on the pitch change that.

[GordonHFC]

Anyone else now reading this as “Hibs have once more retained the right to be able to get shot of him after a year if, as is probably expected, he ends up being a bit pish?”

Nope. That would be a loan with no option to buy.

[Allant1981]

Really concerned about the direction the club is going in. 20 year old loan to buys are a pure lottery and it didn't work the last time so why are we doing it all over again? Serious concerns.


Shocked

[Since452]

Remember back in the day we took a wee punt on that rapid but transfer listed semi pro guy from Northern Ireland? Turned out no bad. Sometimes you've got to take a wee chance .

[Allant1981]

Wish i could have put a bet on what posters on here would have been getting their wee typing fingers ready for a moan when they seen this,id have been a millionaire, some folk need to seriously get a grip, he is a young guy the club have obviously taken an interest in, will be coming in on pennies, if it works out then great, if it doesnt he goes back to his parent club, no huge loss. He wont be our main striker and wont be the only forward we sign this summer, chill out

[Libby Hibby]

Does anyone know if Bojang has spent a few days over here on trial prior to his medical? If so, I would feel a bit more confident in his ability that at least someone has reviewed his attributes up close.

In saying that, I’m also quite excited and intrigued by this signing.

Welcome to Hibs Bojang.

[HH81]

No one is trying to take away your right to question the approach but what it seems like your after is hibs to be spending money on every signing and the signing has to be in a certain age bracket....and now it matters what the name of the club is cause if it sounds silly the player must be gash.....and if we sign someone meeting your criteria and IG is mentioned in the press release its a stich up as well

Hibs wont ever meet your standards at this rate Col, Hibs have stated the intention is to bring in young players and develop them to move them on since at least when Mathie took over from George Craig, its no surprise to see us sign young players, the journeyman option absolutely hammered us for about 10 years prior to relegation under butcher, we all know we could do with some experience, even the gaffer he's on record saying he likes a few older heads in and around his squads in interview out last week but you cant surely expect every player coming in to fit that mould it makes no sense to the club especially IF at one stage there's a fee involved.

Good post. Bit if balance to some of the over reactions.

[Smartie]

Does anyone know if Bojang has spent a few days over here on trial prior to his medical? If so, I would feel a bit more confident in his ability that at least someone has reviewed his attributes up close.

In saying that, I’m also quite excited and intrigued by this signing.

Welcome to Hibs Bojang.

These are actually my favourite signings.

Raw pace with a few rough edges needing knocked off means Ivan Sproule and Martin Boyle to me and they were both outstanding signings.

We tend to make more of a success of these than the more heralded arrivals of O’Brien, De Graaf or Mueller.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Anyone remember what happened with Agathe? Sometimes it's worth a gamble

[Gmack7]

If this lad doesn't turn out to be the new Sadio Mane I'll be distraught, him and the next Haaland will be an amazing partnership up front

[Iain G]

Bojang-goals surely.

And now open your eyes and see
What we have found is real
We have signed Momodou
(A dream of him we offer you)

Momodu
(Now he is here)
It's Momodu
(Momodu)

(With apologies to Olivia Newton John)

[Stairway 2 7]

If a player is say 26 and really good and obviously going to improve us, then sadly a good chance we will be outbid. The championship and even hearts with their 2 million from fans and extra from benefactor can outbid if they want, many in league 1 too.

We are all going for the same players really. The ones that work are really always still a punt like Boyle, Nisbet, gray. It maybe won't work, like vela and ojo who went to Aberdeen with both on big wages.

We will try our best to take a chance on over 26 year olds but they have probably a few flaws to come to us. Also we will take a chance on youngsters. It's pretty much every teams plan although we are from a lower pool than others

[Brightside]

High risk strategy then. Investing in talent I am all for but this is a pure punt. We can’t seriously think we have had this guy scouted for a while? His agent will be chums with Gordon or the invisible CEO

It’s not high risk if he’s basically cost us the price of a pack of biscuits.

[Greenbeard]

And now open your eyes and see
What we have found is real
We have signed Momodou
(A dream of him we offer you)

Momodu
(Now he is here)
It's Momodu
(Momodu)

(With apologies to Olivia Newton John)
Why just apologies to ONJ?

[Iain G]

Why just apologies to ONJ?

Ok and to Jeff Lynne as well 🤣

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hopefully this is an additional player to the first team players we were planning on getting in.

If we count Nisbet, Doidge, Melkersen and Bojang as first team strikers then we’ll potentially only be looking at one more at most. With Nisbet out for most of the year and Doidge having never found anything close to any form since his injury, that’s nowhere near enough imo.

[Golden Bear]

I'll wait and see how our new signing performs before I can offer an opinion on his abilities.

That approach seems common sense to me but there again what would I know?

[scoopyboy]

Latapy had played over 100 games in the Portuguese top division, including 40+ for a club of the stature of Porto, when he signed for us.

It's not really comparable.

Aye, but had you heard of him?:greengrin

I think the point being made by several posters is because we haven't heard of him doesn't make him a poor player.

Sproule, Latapy, Boozy, Benji were all unknowns when they came to us and they turned out to be ok.

The important bit for me is we have the option to sign him at the end of his loan period.

If he's good he doesn't go to Celtic like Didier Agathe for nout.

[scoopyboy]

I'll wait and see how our new signing performs before I can offer an opinion on his abilities.

That approach seems common sense to me but there again what would I know?

Poor show GB, you should know better than expect a rational view to be accepted.

[jacomo]

I’m not sure how much weight the “we have to be patient” phrase holds anymore. That was said constantly last summer and that ended up being an absolute car crash.


Indeed, and the concern raised in august was certainly justified, likewise the criticism when it became clear we had not strengthened the squad as we should have done.

That’s fine. But expecting new signings to all be here for the start of pre season training is not.

[Wilson]

I'll wait and see how our new signing performs before I can offer an opinion on his abilities.

That approach seems common sense to me but there again what would I know?

Stick to golf.

[eastmainsmsh]

And now open your eyes and see
What we have found is real
We have signed Momodou
(A dream of him we offer you)

Momodu
(Now he is here)
It's Momodu
(Momodu)

(With apologies to Olivia Newton John)

Olivia won't mind Aberdeens Davie Robb allegedly scored lol 😆

[Mr. Wonderful]

It’s not high risk if he’s basically cost us the price of a pack of biscuits.

And you came by this information easily yes?

[brog]

Strangely enough our signings which were almost universally applauded on here, were reasonably seasoned pros who had played well against us. Gogic is the most obvious and recent example. Just maybe Hibs Net posters are not the best guide to the quality and potential of our signings.

[blackpoolhibs]

Hardly a rant. I am allowed to question the clubs recruitment approach.

A few things we universally agree on is our recent recruitment has been poor (last two windows), our manager(s) have underperformed and we need a transformation in squad quality while recognizing our squad is too heavy in numbers.

Therefore expectations……

Probably best waiting until the end of the window first.

[Bostonhibby]

If this lad doesn't turn out to be the new Sadio Mane I'll be distraught, him and the next Haaland will be an amazing partnership up frontIf he's anywhere near as tricky as mr Jingles in the Green Mile he'll do for me.

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[MrRobot]

There is some amount of absolutely miserable *******s amongst our support, its actually boring seeing the same predictable hysterics.

[green day]

Probably best waiting until the end of the window first.

Never mind closing, he might even want to wait until the English and Scottish windows actually open on Friday................

[Ringothedog]

There is some amount of absolutely miserable *******s amongst our support, its actually boring seeing the same predictable hysterics.

From the same posters every time

[Iain G]

There is some amount of absolutely miserable *******s amongst our support, its actually boring seeing the same predictable hysterics.

I love these out of the blue, unknown, almost exotic signings! Hell it might not work out but it's good to get a wee bit excited and enthused about it rather than write it off before you know anything about the player, never mind never seen him play 😁

[Springbank]

No one is trying to take away your right to question the approach but what it seems like your after is hibs to be spending money on every signing and the signing has to be in a certain age bracket....and now it matters what the name of the club is cause if it sounds silly the player must be gash.....and if we sign someone meeting your criteria and IG is mentioned in the press release its a stich up as well

Hibs wont ever meet your standards at this rate Col, Hibs have stated the intention is to bring in young players and develop them to move them on since at least when Mathie took over from George Craig, its no surprise to see us sign young players, the journeyman option absolutely hammered us for about 10 years prior to relegation under butcher, we all know we could do with some experience, even the gaffer he's on record saying he likes a few older heads in and around his squads in interview out last week but you cant surely expect every player coming in to fit that mould it makes no sense to the club especially IF at one stage there's a fee involved.

Funny thing is, the club has met my expectations in the past - 2015/16 with team of McGinn, McGeough, Fyvie, Stokes, Liam Henderson- really good players who had won things, proven themselves, and were likely to hit the ground running.

Ditto 2017/18 under Neil Lennon. Signing international strikers & Man City loanee, the return of Scott Allan.

We do not seem to be operating in that zone right now.

[SHODAN]

Saw all the new pages and thought another signing might be announced but no, it's just people moaning.

[Aldo]

Saw all the new pages and thought another signing might be announced but no, it's just people moaning.

Or folk moaning about folk moaning [emoji2957][emoji2957][emoji41]


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[Dmas]

Funny thing is, the club has met my expectations in the past - 2015/16 with team of McGinn, McGeough, Fyvie, Stokes, Liam Henderson- really good players who had won things, proven themselves, and were likely to hit the ground running.

Ditto 2017/18 under Neil Lennon. Signing international strikers & Man City loanee, the return of Scott Allan.

We do not seem to be operating in that zone right now.

This is my point, Man City loanee, barker or agypong whichever you mean same age or slightly younger than the guy who’s just signed but that doesn’t matter cause the name of the clubs BIG, they where both still rubbish and have both gone on to do nothing since and both represented the same risk to hibs as this guy…however should he do better than both mentioned players Hibs have the right to sign him permanently.

Sproule came from a non league Northern Ireland team and was older than this guy it worked out well this could too he’s not here to lead the line he’s here for the manager to have a look at after a tip off, the windows not even open yet and there’s pants being wet all over the place if LJ is going to have half a chance at this there’s a fair amount of fans needing to simmer down

[B.H.F.C]

Strangely enough our signings which were almost universally applauded on here, were reasonably seasoned pros who had played well against us. Gogic is the most obvious and recent example. Just maybe Hibs Net posters are not the best guide to the quality and potential of our signings.

Don’t think that’s a good example.

When Gogic came in he went straight in to the team and improved us. Same with Nisbet who signed at the same time.

We’re in desperate need of players who are going to do that. If you look at the signings last summer we spent money on two young players who ended up loaned out. Signed another one on loan who didn’t see his loan through. January was similar, signing players who weren’t going to go in and improve us right away.

This lad might turn out to be a player but we’re saying that about a lot of our signings these days. I hope we can get the balance right in this window which we haven’t in the last couple.

[leithsansiro]

These sort of signings are what makes football exciting surely?
Doesn’t really matter if we’ve not heard of the lad, does it really matter? He might be rubbish, he might be fantastic, he might be somewhere in between. But it’s exciting though.

I really miss the good old days when we didn’t expect to know stuff automatically or have information at our fingertips. When Hibs drew Videoton in the UEFA Cup, I remember thinking that they seemed really exotic(and I still look out for their results every so often). Surely random, left field signings and names is what makes this interesting?

Would love the guy to do well, though the fans need to remember that he’s a 20 year old guy coming to play in a different football culture. Let’s not get on his back if he doesn’t score a double on his debut, aye?

[hibsforeurope]

I see people mentioning punts we've made in the past, Sproule, Insall etc. it's fair enough making punts every now and then to compliment established players, these squads had players like Riordan, O'connor, Cummings, Boyle, Stokes, etc. Our current squad has Doige and Nisbet who are injured and Melkersen as the only fit striker.

I understand we are in the off-season but so far it seems there's no difference to the pattern of signings from previous windows since Mathie left, we don't seem to have learnt any lessons.

Lee Johnson spoke about he wants his squad to have a certain balance 4 youngsters (16-20), 8 breakthrough players (21-25), 8 prime players(25-30) and 4 older heads(30+), our squad is way off this make up, we need to start redressing the balance. So far our signings are in the youngster category.

i know we have the Boyle money in addition to the transfer budget for this summer, that should allow us to make some good signings in the prime category, where we are severely lacking.

[Dmas]

Don’t think that’s a good example.

When Gogic came in he went straight in to the team and improved us. Same with Nisbet who signed at the same time.

We’re in desperate need of players who are going to do that. If you look at the signings last summer we spent money on two young players who ended up loaned out. Signed another one on loan who didn’t see his loan through. January was similar, signing players who weren’t going to go in and improve us right away.

This lad might turn out to be a player but we’re saying that about a lot of our signings these days. I hope we can get the balance right in this window which we haven’t in the last couple.

It’s patience though isn’t it, the new manager is just in the door he’s told us he wants a good balance he needs the time to source that, experienced players will represent a big out lay to his budget wage wise I’d think, so he’ll want to put that to good use, plus it’s holiday time for most, we need to move away from jumping on the club for every tiny detail, LJ has been alerted to this guy he had other options the manager wanted him here to have a look before he signs he’s here on loan with an option really no need for the outrage and panic

[SaulGoodman]

And you came by this information easily yes?

You think this 20 year old Gambian from Rainbow FC on a loan deal has cost us a lot of money like?

[Mr. Wonderful]

You think this 20 year old Gambian from Rainbow FC on a loan deal has cost us a lot of money like?

You think if he was an out of this world talent Rainbow FC wouldn't want to financially benefit from the loan deal

Ps. I've no idea, but he seems to know more about the deal now than anyone did yesterday (heehaw)

[bingo70]

You think if he was an out of this world talent Rainbow FC wouldn't want to financially benefit from the loan deal

Ps. I've no idea, but he seems to know more about the deal now than anyone did yesterday (heehaw)

Maybe they think he’s brilliant and are pretty certain he’ll prove it in his loan deal and therefore earn them money after it.

[Stairway 2 7]

You think if he was an out of this world talent Rainbow FC wouldn't want to financially benefit from the loan deal?

You've really put your cards on the table here. If he turns out to be good I'd take a mutual agreement from the board and walk away 😆.

I'm stunned that you can get as worked up and battling away over such a trivial signing. We'll see at the end of the transfer window how we've went

[Mr. Wonderful]

Maybe they think he’s brilliant and are pretty certain he’ll prove it in his loan deal and therefore earn them money after it.

Sounds fanciful to me. But the chances of anyone knowing the fine details are slim, given than not a single soul k ew he was even signing until it was done.

[Hannah_hfc]

This is my point, Man City loanee, barker or agypong whichever you mean same age or slightly younger than the guy who’s just signed but that doesn’t matter cause the name of the clubs BIG, they where both still rubbish and have both gone on to do nothing since and both represented the same risk to hibs as this guy…however should he do better than both mentioned players Hibs have the right to sign him permanently.

Sproule came from a non league Northern Ireland team and was older than this guy it worked out well this could too he’s not here to lead the line he’s here for the manager to have a look at after a tip off, the windows not even open yet and there’s pants being wet all over the place if LJ is going to have half a chance at this there’s a fair amount of fans needing to simmer down

This is where I’m at. The window isn’t even open yet, we’ve had 3 signing announcements and people are still pushing panic buttons.

Hibs have in no way masqueraded Bojang as key signing. If he’s used as back up or an impact sub then he will hardly be costing us the earth to have someone in that role.


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[Mr. Wonderful]

You've really put your cards on the table here. If he turns out to be good I'd take a mutual agreement from the board and walk away 😆.

I'm stunned that you can get as worked up and battling away over such a trivial signing. We'll see at the end of the transfer window how we've went

Take my playing devils advocate as me having my cards on the table. He may well turn out class, my concern is surrounding this signing approach appearing to be our main one. We need experience too.

[Onceinawhile]

Rocky signed on a permanent deal....

[Stuart93]

Rocky signs permanently for 3 years.

Didn’t see that coming. Not sure I rate him much and would’ve preferred getting someone else in the door.

Are we allowed to moan about this or be concerned that he’s been considered good enough?

[Allant1981]

Take my playing devils advocate as me having my cards on the table. He may well turn out class, my concern is surrounding this signing approach appearing to be our main one. We need experience too.

Like signing an experienced international goalkeeper you mean

[Northernhibee]

Rocky signed on a permanent deal....
****ing hell, he’s abysmal.

[Hannah_hfc]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/rocky-bushiri-joins-hibs-permanently

Rocky signed permanently


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[Heisenberg]

Rocky signed on a permanent deal....

What have they seen to think he’s anywhere near good enough? Dreadful signing.

[brog]

Don’t think that’s a good example.

When Gogic came in he went straight in to the team and improved us. Same with Nisbet who signed at the same time.

We’re in desperate need of players who are going to do that. If you look at the signings last summer we spent money on two young players who ended up loaned out. Signed another one on loan who didn’t see his loan through. January was similar, signing players who weren’t going to go in and improve us right away.

This lad might turn out to be a player but we’re saying that about a lot of our signings these days. I hope we can get the balance right in this window which we haven’t in the last couple.


I'm not sure Gogic improved us but if he did it was a very short fix. It really didn't take long for everyone to recognise his limitations. Anyway my point is players who are mostly welcomed by the support probably don't have a better track record than unknowns. I 100% agree your comments in last paragraph.

[SaulGoodman]

Rocky signed on a permanent deal....

Christ

[Northernhibee]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/rocky-bushiri-joins-hibs-permanently

Rocky signed permanently, not sure it says how long for.


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Three years. What a colossal waste of money.

[Willis1875]

Time to log off for a while 🙈

[MrRobot]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/rocky-bushiri-joins-hibs-permanently

Rocky signed permanently, not sure it says how long for.


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3 years it seems.

Slightly surprised by us taking him permanently but he’s still young so can hopefully improve.

[Not In The Know]

From the same posters every time

how anyone can turn signing this guy at this moment in time into a negative is mind boggling.

[Hibernian Verse]

Everyone was ***** under Maloney.

[SaulGoodman]

Everyone was ***** under Maloney.

Everyone was **** under Butcher but I wouldn’t have went back and signed Tudor Jones or Danny Haynes once Stubbs came in.

[Brown Hibs]

Delighted with Rocky signing permanently. He has all the attributes to go right to the top. Fast, strong, good on the ball. Centre halves take a while to become established and hopefully we can bring him on.

[Heisenberg]

Everyone was ***** under Maloney.

He was ***** under Gray too. Just a very poor footballer.

[Stuart93]

Feels like the loan deal we’ve signed it was more of an obligation to buy as oppose to an option

[bingo70]

Just having a look at the Gambian national team on transfer market. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/gambia/startseite/verein/6186

The following players started their careers in their home league....

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/musa-barrow/profil/spieler/486624 Musa Barrow, current club AC Milan, value £16.2m

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/omar-colley/profil/spieler/174733 Omar Colley, current club Sampdoria, value £4.5m

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/assan-ceesay/profil/spieler/388382 Assan Ceesay, current club Zurich, value £2.43m

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dembo-darboe/profil/spieler/699182 Dembo Darboe, current club Soligorsch, value £2.25m

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bubacarr-trawally/profil/spieler/353112 Bubacarr Trawally, current club current club Hammarby, value £1.8m


Think you get the jist..... Good players can come from that league and have ended up at bigger clubs that ours. Once they make it to Europe elsewhere they can quickly become out of our reach, absolutely brilliant we are trying to tap into markets like these.

[Hibs3-2]

Was good in his first couple of games then his confidence was obv shot to bits once the teams form plummeted.

[Hibernian Verse]

He was ***** under Gray too. Just a very poor footballer.

Let’s see how he does under LJ. Clean slate for everyone.

[Heisenberg]

Feels like the loan deal we’ve signed it was more of an obligation to buy as oppose to an option

Having read it you seem to be correct. Whoever put that through is a ****ing diddy.

[bingo70]

Delighted with Rocky signing permanently. He has all the attributes to go right to the top. Fast, strong, good on the ball. Centre halves take a while to become established and hopefully we can bring him on.


I agree. I liked Rocky, had an absolute shocker at Tynecastle and then never recovered from it though.

I'm also not convinced he was fully fit, he was rushed in earlier than he was expected to play and i'm not sure we saw him at his best. I think with a good pre-season he could go on to be a decent signing.

[scoopyboy]

I'm more concerned about the Rocky signing than the Gambian laddie.

[overdrive]

Rocky signed on a permanent deal....

I’m starting to get concerned. This signing way more than the guy from Rainbow FC.

[flash]

I wouldn't have signed him but he's not as bad as some are suggesting.
Definitely be improvement in him given his age and lack of experience.

[SlickShoes]

Having read it you seem to be correct. Whoever put that through is a ****ing diddy.

Not really, it could be that if he played a number of games we had the option to buy him permanently at a good pre-agreed price. If he had not played enough to trigger than then Norwich could ask whatever they want.

If the price is right and we can make money on it, then it could be a good move.

Everyone here just jumps straight to the worst case scenario and its exhausting to have to read it over and over.

[SHODAN]

Looks like there was an obligation to buy in Bushiri's contract after he played a set number of games. Well done whoever put that in. :rolleyes:

He'll be useful as backup, I suppose!

[SlickShoes]

I'm more concerned about the Rocky signing than the Gambian laddie.

Gambian

[easty]

I'm more concerned about the Rocky signing than the Ghanian laddie.

Absolutely.

He didn’t look good in his loan spell so I’m pretty shocked we’ve given him a permanent deal.

[scoopyboy]

Delighted with Rocky signing permanently. He has all the attributes to go right to the top. Fast, strong, good on the ball. Centre halves take a while to become established and hopefully we can bring him on.

He's fast and strong but not convinced he can play football, time will tell.

[Northernhibee]

Looks like there was an obligation to buy in Bushiri's contract after he played a set number of games. Well done whoever put that in. :rolleyes:

He'll be useful as backup, I suppose!
Also absolutely mental that we continued to play him if it was going to trigger a clause like that.

[BoomtownHibees]

Delighted with Rocky signing permanently. He has all the attributes to go right to the top. Fast, strong, good on the ball. Centre halves take a while to become established and hopefully we can bring him on.

After reading this and your opinion of Doidge I conclude you must watch games with your eyes closed

[Brightside]

Ok. I’ll take it back. This is a honking signing and worrying as based on performance during loan he is not a player we should be looking at. We needed 2 CHs. He shouldn’t be one of them.

[B.H.F.C]

Reading it, I think we’ve made a mess of the original deal and been obligated to take him. He was included in the players leaving release last week.

[Big_Franck]

Ah ffs. He's nowhere near the standard we need.

I dont like being negative but 3 of the 4 signings of the summer so far don't appear to be ready to come in and improve our first team, which is exactly what we need. We've enough 'projects' as it is.

[Brightside]

Reading it, I think we’ve made a mess of the original deal and been obligated to take him. He was included in the players leaving release last week.

Yep. That’s really worrying.

[Chorley Hibee]

Feels like the loan deal we’ve signed it was more of an obligation to buy as oppose to an option

That's how I read it too.

If that's the case, it's utterly ridiculous that we've now had to offer a 3 year deal to him based on a clause in the loan deal.

Someone needs their arse kicked!

[Johnny_Leith]

I can't believe we've signed Bushiri on a permanent. I thought he was very poor in his loan spell. He hasn't done anywhere near enough to deserve a 3 year deal.

I wonder if we've missed out on a preferred choice target and he was the backup. I'd still rather have someone else though.

I know it's a clean slate for everyone but i don't think he's good enough, hopefully be proven wrong...

[Heisenberg]

Not really, it could be that if he played a number of games we had the option to buy him permanently at a good pre-agreed price. If he had not played enough to trigger than then Norwich could ask whatever they want.

If the price is right and we can make money on it, then it could be a good move.

Everyone here just jumps straight to the worst case scenario and its exhausting to have to read it over and over.

It very much reads to me like we’ve had to sign him and didn’t have any option to get out of it. Sure they included him in the departures from the club a week ago.

[GreenGray]

Hope he turns it around but it sounds like we’ve been forced to sign a player we didn’t actually want to sign.


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[Brightside]

After reading this and your opinion of Doidge I conclude you must watch games with your eyes closed

Clearly a troll after his latest comment.

[Big_Franck]

Reading it, I think we’ve made a mess of the original deal and been obligated to take him. He was included in the players leaving release last week.

Totally agree, that's how it reads to me as well. His name was included in that list along with Murphy, James Scott etc. I've never seen us do that and then sign the player days later. Strange one.

[Stuart93]

We’ve meant to be having an overhaul of the squad, not re-signing the dross that helped us finish where we did!

[Zambernardi1875]

Who’s decision was it to put that sort of deal in his loan agreement ?

[jeffers]

Glad we got rid of Mathie. The new structure is working sooooo much better.:rolleyes:

[S4uzee]

Starting to get very concerned …. Hope I’d never see him again after Tynecastle and Gray clearly thought the same

[Scouse Hibee]

Reading it, I think we’ve made a mess of the original deal and been obligated to take him. He was included in the players leaving release last week.

I don’t think we were forced to take him at all.

[Brown Hibs]

Clearly a troll after his latest comment.

Lee Johnson seems to agree with my opinion but I'm the troll apparently. Don't be so arrogant.

[Callum_62]

Thank god we announced the Gambian boy last night

Cleared the way for the big signing today

[emoji23]

I actually think rocky can be a decent player - definately not as bad as some are making out imo

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[Willis1875]

Starting to get very concerned …. Hope I’d never see him again after Tynecastle and Gray clearly thought the same

Gray played him against Dundee the 2nd last game of the season,That was his 15th appearance for Hibs and could have been the one that triggered the permanent transfer

[makaveli1875]

Big Rocky , what to say . He looked nervous , low in confidence and had a few howlers but most of our team looked like that towards the end with Maloney . Hopefully the new manager can pick him up and get him playing , I’ll give him a chance but I fear the boo boys won’t and he’s going to get abuse all season long

[JohnM1875]

Reading it, I think we’ve made a mess of the original deal and been obligated to take him. He was included in the players leaving release last week.

Exactly how I read it as well. Even the club aren't bigging this signing up. Strange one.

For what it's worth I do think there's a player in there.

[Bad Habits]

Two good, young, athletic, exciting signings.

The Gambian lad looks interesting. Likely a cheap gamble. if he doesn't work, no bother. Familicao have a sizeable budget and players of a quality we can only dream of, not to worried about him not playing first team minutes for them at 19 or whatever he was.

Rocky had had a bad start. Playing possesion based football, under a manager practically everyone wanted gone. Happy to give him chance with LJ, who has a documented history being successful with physical centre halves.

[Vault Boy]

I'm a bit concerned we've taken the option, or perhaps more concerningly, been obligated to. Rocky has some promising raw attributes, but he's miles away from Porteous at the same age IMO. He's really not a player we should be dropping a transfer fee on.

Perhaps a new manager and full pre-season will see the best of him. Willing to give him the benefit of doubt in that regard.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ok. I’ll take it back. This is a honking signing and worrying as based on performance during loan he is not a player we should be looking at. We needed 2 CHs. He shouldn’t be one of them.

This is my concern.

We needed at least two strikers. Someone with the pedigree of Bojang shouldn’t be one of them when we’ve got Melkersen.

We need two centre half’s. Rocky is terrible and shouldn’t be one of them.

We need a whole new midfield. Whilst I think Kenneh could be decent, he’s a gamble due to his lack of first team experience and this season has shown it’s an area we need to get right so Kenneh shouldn’t be relied upon too much.

The signings so far need to be at the poorer end of our recruitment this summer. If this is the kind of signings we can expect then I fully expect we’ll be bottom half again next season.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Three years. What a colossal waste of money.

Deary me. Its a gamble and it won't be costing us much money..

Or. Something

[Since452]

Really not a fan of Rocky but i'm hopeful that he will improve under a better manager than Maloney. I personally wouldn't have signed him but he gets a clean slate from me.

[Hiber-nation]

Was happy enough with the Gambian laddie but the Rocky signing is astonishing. I have absolutely no idea what his attributes are, poor on the ball, can't jump, positioning suspect, looks strong but that's about it. Really worrying times ahead if this is where we're going.

[Brightside]

Reading it, I think we’ve made a mess of the original deal and been obligated to take him. He was included in the players leaving release last week.

BK needs his jotters if that’s what’s happened. It’s really poor.

[WeeRussell]

Thank god we announced the Gambian boy last night

Cleared the way for the big signing today

[emoji23]

I actually think rocky can be a decent player - definately not as bad as some are making out imo

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Me too 👍

[Since452]

This is my concern.

We needed at least two strikers. Someone with the pedigree of Bojang shouldn’t be one of them when we’ve got Melkersen.

We need two centre half’s. Rocky is terrible and shouldn’t be one of them.

We need a whole new midfield. Whilst I think Kenneh could be decent, he’s a gamble due to his lack of first team experience and this season has shown it’s an area we need to get right.

The signings so far need to be at the poorer end of our recruitment this summer. If this is the kind of signings we can expect then I fully expect we’ll be bottom half again next season.

Bojang won't be the last striker to be signed. We'll sign a couple more.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Looks like there was an obligation to buy in Bushiri's contract after he played a set number of games. Well done whoever put that in. :rolleyes:

He'll be useful as backup, I suppose!

Obligation? Based on what? If there were such a clause, and frankly I doubt Norwich inserted one, I doubt it would have been for a 3 year contract when he would no longer be a Norwich player, especially if there is a sell on clause...but hey this is dotnet ehere folk make things up depending on the wind direction at noon.😉

[Callum_62]

Just waiting for the James Scott announcement later today



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[JohnM1875]

Really hoping Rocky isn't the signing Moira Gordon was alluding to last night 'within 24 hours'. But I'm guessing it will be.

[easty]

Is it a Hibs.net fact now that we were obligated to sign Rocky?

[Callum_62]

Obligation? Based on what? If there were such a clause, and frankly I doubt Norwich inserted one, I doubt it would have been for a 3 year contract when he would no longer be a Norwich player, especially if there is a sell on clause...but hey this is dotnet ehere folk make things up depending on the wind direction at noon.[emoji6]The 22-year-old centre-half has penned a three-year deal with the Club after an option in his original loan agreement was triggered through a certain number of appearances. The terms of the agreement will remain undisclosed.

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[Big_Franck]

Obligation? Based on what? If there were such a clause, and frankly I doubt Norwich inserted one, I doubt it would have been for a 3 year contract when he would no longer be a Norwich player, especially if there is a sell on clause...but hey this is dotnet ehere folk make things up depending on the wind direction at noon.😉

The news article on the official site includes this:

The 22-year-old centre-half has penned a three-year deal with the Club after an option in his original loan agreement was triggered through a certain number of appearances.

[Gordy M]

Why is it every time we sign a player posters on here go on like we will sign NO more players? I assume we will be building some sort of squad with a few more to come in? Surely thats obvious.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Just waiting for the James Scott announcement later today



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Never look a gift horse in the mouth😉

[easty]

The 22-year-old centre-half has penned a three-year deal with the Club after an option in his original loan agreement was triggered through a certain number of appearances. The terms of the agreement will remain undisclosed.

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“An option”

[Callum_62]

Is it a Hibs.net fact now that we were obligated to sign Rocky?It seems to be hinted at on the official website

The 22-year-old centre-half has penned a three-year deal with the Club after an option in his original loan agreement was triggered through a certain number of appearances. The terms of the agreement will remain undisclosed.

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[Callum_62]

“An option”Which could be play him 15 times last season and he's yours

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[MikeyS]

Delighted with Rocky signing permanently. He has all the attributes to go right to the top. Fast, strong, good on the ball. Centre halves take a while to become established and hopefully we can bring him on.

Have you been hacked??

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bojang won't be the last striker to be signed. We'll sign a couple more.

You know that for a fact?

We’ve currently got 4 first team strikers. Teams generally don’t have much more than that.

I certainly hope we’ll sign a couple more but past experience would suggest we shouldn’t take that as a given.

[Gordy M]

It seems to be hinted at on the official website

The 22-year-old centre-half has penned a three-year deal with the Club after an option in his original loan agreement was triggered through a certain number of appearances. The terms of the agreement will remain undisclosed.

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I took that to mean if he plays a certain amount of games you get an option to buy him at X price. If you dont then we have to negotiate again? But i dont know.

[easty]

Which could be play him 15 times last season and he's yours

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Could be. Could also be, “play him 15 times and you can sign him for £undisclosed fee”.

We don’t know.

[Callum_62]

I took that to mean if he plays a certain amount of games you get an option to buy him at X price. If you dont then we have to negotiate again? But i dont know.Could mean that

Or could be play x games and the agreement to sign at this value is confirmed

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[BILLYHIBS]

Rocky

WTF!

[MrRobot]

If the club had made a mess of the loan signing by putting in an obligation to buy him regardless of performances, would they really put it in their signing statement? :dunno:

[GreenGray]

Could be. Could also be, “play him 15 times and you can sign him for £undisclosed fee”.

We don’t know.

“Option was triggered” surely means if we played him a certain number of times we had to sign him.

Given we announced his departure just last week it’s not hard to read between the lines and see what’s happened here.


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[Gordy M]

Could mean that

Or could be play x games and the agreement to sign at this value is confirmed

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But thats not an option, thats an obligation?

[Vault Boy]

It seems to be hinted at on the official website

The 22-year-old centre-half has penned a three-year deal with the Club after an option in his original loan agreement was triggered through a certain number of appearances. The terms of the agreement will remain undisclosed.

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The transfer fee and contract were already agreed so I'm not sure what else that trigger could suggest. Perhaps he needed a certain number of appearances for us to opt to take the option? I think it's more likely that it was an obligation, but we may never know.

[Since452]

An option was triggered due to a certian number of appearances sounds different to an obligation to buy was triggered by a certian number of appearances.

[Mcbizz1998]

Ok I’ll admit it, I’m a bit worried by Bushiri.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’ve got to say if I was Rocky I’d be less than enamoured with that statement of me signing a 3 year deal.

[Wilson]

Rocky is only 22 and can improve. Hell, Porteous is 23 and we're still working on his rough edges.

I look forward to seeing him contribute under Lee Johnson's reign.

[Pretty Boy]

I was hoping we would be looking to bring in better in defence tbh.

With McGinn extending and now Rocky signing permanently there doesn't seem a huge scope for too much more movement there. If we sell Porteous any replacement is only likely to be a downgrade.

I never saw what some saw in Rocky when he 1st arrived and as time went on he didn't do much to change my opinion. I suppose he is raw so there may be scope for improvement but he was a guy who spent much of the latter part of his spell here last season warming the bench. If we are to improve next season I can't see that changing much.

[Callum_62]

But thats not an option, thats an obligation?Not really, as the option part was play him to x games or dont

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[Brightside]

I took that to mean if he plays a certain amount of games you get an option to buy him at X price. If you dont then we have to negotiate again? But i dont know.

Well you don’t announce he’s away and then 3 days later say we’ve signed him unless someone really ****ed up.

[Pretty Boy]

As an aside that must be one of the least enthusiastic signing announcements ever.

if you could convert a sigh into written format it would be right at home in those 4 paragrpahs.

[Gordy M]

Not really, as the option part was play him to x games or dont

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I thought is said the "option was triggered?" That tends to suggest we had first go/agreed price depending on his appearances, if he didnt play then a re-negotiation would have to take place.

[MrRobot]

Well you don’t announce he’s away and then 3 days later say we’ve signed him unless someone really ****ed up.

Or the club hadn’t decided to sign him yet and LJ decided he wants him?

You wouldn’t announce he was away if you knew that you had to take him surely?

[Lester B]

An option was triggered due to a certian number of appearances sounds different to an obligation to buy was triggered by a certian number of appearances.

Exactly right. The idea that he played a number of games and we legally had to sign him is absolute nonsense. There was an agreed price in the original loan deal which they've clearly looked at and believed, rightly or wrongly. that the player is worth that much.

Sadly this is going to be an enduring myth on here that we had to sign him. It seems some people here either can't interpret a sentence or deliberately misunderstand it

[Gordy M]

Well you don’t announce he’s away and then 3 days later say we’ve signed him unless someone really ****ed up.

Why? His loan ended, he was away but we had triggered an option to buy if we wanted. They spoke to LJ and decided to trigger that option? That seems to me what happened?

[SlickShoes]

You know that for a fact?

We’ve currently got 4 first team strikers. Teams generally don’t have much more than that.

I certainly hope we’ll sign a couple more but past experience would suggest we shouldn’t take that as a given.

Doidge is an unknown at the moment, is he even fit at all? Nisbet is out until October at the earliest. I doubt we will start with just Melkersen and the new guy.

[Ozyhibby]

I was hoping we would be looking to bring in better in defence tbh.

With McGinn extending and now Rocky signing permanently there doesn't seem a huge scope for too much more movement there. If we sell Porteous any replacement is only likely to be a downgrade.

I never saw what some saw in Rocky when he 1st arrived and as time went on he didn't do much to change my opinion. I suppose he is raw so there may be scope for improvement but he was a guy who spent much of the latter part of his spell here last season warming the bench. If we are to improve next season I can't see that changing much.

I’ve never seen a team fail so badly who offered new deals to so many of those players.
Business wise RG appears to be showing the potential we have been missing out on but football wise, the club is a complete shambles.


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[Brightside]

Or the club hadn’t decided to sign him yet and LJ decided he wants him?

You wouldn’t announce he was away if you knew that you had to take him surely?

They clearly didn’t know. And LJ isn’t going to change his mind in 3 days. It’s not like he saw him play in those 3 days? It’s a screw up. No other way to explain it.

[GreenGray]

Why? His loan ended, he was away but we had triggered an option to buy if we wanted. They spoke to LJ and decided to trigger that option? That seems to me what happened?

If that was the case why did they mention the appearance clause at all? And not just that Hibs triggered a clause which meant they could sign him.


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[h185forever]

As much as I love Porteous…having Rocky and him will possibly leave us a defender short in the squad a fair chunk of the season, thru suspensions never mind injuries.

I guess LJ knows what he’s doing though.

[SlickShoes]

Could be. Could also be, “play him 15 times and you can sign him for £undisclosed fee”.

We don’t know.

This is the most likely situation, but it doesn't matter because it's now a dot net fact that Ben Kensell made a bad contract and we have now been forced to sign Bushiri and give him a long deal.

[stuart-farquhar]

Mibbies Hibbies Bushiri will be sold in the coming window?

[Big_Franck]

I was hoping we would be looking to bring in better in defence tbh.

With McGinn extending and now Rocky signing permanently there doesn't seem a huge scope for too much more movement there. If we sell Porteous any replacement is only likely to be a downgrade.

I never saw what some saw in Rocky when he 1st arrived and as time went on he didn't do much to change my opinion. I suppose he is raw so there may be scope for improvement but he was a guy who spent much of the latter part of his spell here last season warming the bench. If we are to improve next season I can't see that changing much.

I agree about the scope to improve the defence now being further restricted. We've now got McGinn, Darren McGregor, Bushiri and Hanlon taking up wages and spaces in the squad for next season. None of which are IMO at the level we need to be challenging Hearts and what is likely to be a much stronger Aberdeen side with the money they'll be taking in. Doesn't bode well at all.

[Tambo]

I was hoping we would be looking to bring in better in defence tbh.

With McGinn extending and now Rocky signing permanently there doesn't seem a huge scope for too much more movement there. If we sell Porteous any replacement is only likely to be a downgrade.

I never saw what some saw in Rocky when he 1st arrived and as time went on he didn't do much to change my opinion. I suppose he is raw so there may be scope for improvement but he was a guy who spent much of the latter part of his spell here last season warming the bench. If we are to improve next season I can't see that changing much.

How do we go from Marshall to Rocky? I'd be worried if we sell Porteous and Rocky is his replacement.

Lost count how many times he missed timed a Jump for the ball but at least he kicked the ball into the water.

Will support Hibs and Rock as usual next season but this one don't get me excited.

[Vault Boy]

As an aside that must be one of the least enthusiastic signing announcements ever.

if you could convert a sigh into written format it would be right at home in those 4 paragrpahs.

Aye, feels a bit odd. I know it's cliché, but there's no ’delighted, excited, or thrilled' anywhere. It's a statement of confirmation, which isn't usually how you'd go about signing a player on a 3-year deal.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Keepers:
Marshall, Macey (For Now), Dabrowski

Centre Backs:
Hanlon, Porteous, Bushiri, McGregor, Delfierre

Full Backs/Wing Backs (L):
Doig, Stevenson, Mitchell

Full Backs/Wing Backs (R):
Cadden, Clarke, McGinn

Centre-Mids:
Newell, Doyle-Hayes, Magennis, Campbell, Henderson, Kenneh, Tait

Wide Players:
Mackay, Hauge (Mitchell & Cadden could be included here)

Forwards:
Nisbet, Doidge, Melkerson, Bojang

[GreenGray]

This is the most likely situation, but it doesn't matter because it's now a dot net fact that Ben Kensell made a bad contract and we have now been forced to sign Bushiri and give him a long deal.

Sounds like you’re making you’re own dot net fact by saying that is the most likely situation?


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[The Sundance Kid]

Surely it must have been a decision rather than an obligation given the length of contract? The agreement would have been with Norwich so if we were duty bound to sign him based on his appearances but didn’t want to do so, we could have offered him a 1 year deal, no?

The fact he’s been rewarded with a 3 year contract would tell me that we’ve decided he’s a player worth going for as opposed to someone that’s been forced on us by a clause

[Sergio sledge]

As an aside that must be one of the least enthusiastic signing announcements ever.

if you could convert a sigh into written format it would be right at home in those 4 paragrpahs.

Yup, strange tone to it IMHO. All the other announcements of signings have had words like "delighted" and "excited," this one uses words like "room for improvement" and "interesting."

Very strange statement to put out. Definitely gives me the impression they weren't really wanting to make the signing.

He needs to improve a lot. Hopefully the style of play under LJ will suit him better and he will improve, but he was pretty poor last season.

[easty]

I was hoping we would be looking to bring in better in defence tbh.

With McGinn extending and now Rocky signing permanently there doesn't seem a huge scope for too much more movement there. If we sell Porteous any replacement is only likely to be a downgrade.

I never saw what some saw in Rocky when he 1st arrived and as time went on he didn't do much to change my opinion. I suppose he is raw so there may be scope for improvement but he was a guy who spent much of the latter part of his spell here last season warming the bench. If we are to improve next season I can't see that changing much.

I hoped we’d improve the defence from last season too, but we did end end the season with only Rangers and Celtc having conceded less goals than us. The defence, though ropey at times, wasn’t the teams biggest problem.

[Zambernardi1875]

Dabrowski, mcginn, rocky, hanlon, stevenson canny wait