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weecounty hibby
08-01-2020, 06:39 PM
My pet Jambo in the office says it is just a strong, successful manager showing who's boss. I asked him to define successful and if not winning any games in his last seventeen? games was part of the criteria. They are a ****ing weird bunch
Joe6-2
08-01-2020, 06:47 PM
I believe this is the photo you're looking for. :wink:
22864
😂😂😂 thank you!!
Wait until.....
Wait until......
Posting Barnsley you tube videos!!!
He’s going to make history
Best manager the club has had
For those looking in (yams associates who are salivating over their new coach) call him Danny (the coach of the team who failed to pay the lady Haig Poppy fund and macraes battalion. This really hurts them)
He could make history alright
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Jack Hackett
08-01-2020, 06:56 PM
The 'We are all Daniel Stendel' thread runs it close for a pantomime award...
https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/186821-we-are-all-daniel-stendel/
First thing that jumped out at me when I started scrolling through that, was the handle of one of the posters
Ex member of the SaS
Junior Member
What the holy ****!!!
How many screws have to be loose to choose a name like that? "Look at me Lads... I'm really, really hard"
Aye, OK pal!... Don't forget to pick up your cardigan from the cleaners
WoreTheGreen
08-01-2020, 07:00 PM
Sauce& salt a spotty hands down the trackers and spits to look hard
WillowbraeHibby
08-01-2020, 07:14 PM
First thing that jumped out at me when I started scrolling through that, was the handle of one of the posters
Ex member of the SaS
Junior Member
What the holy ****!!!
How many screws have to be loose to choose a name like that? "Look at me Lads... I'm really, really hard"
Aye, OK pal!... Don't forget to pick up your cardigan from the cleaners
It's probably ex member of the Stendel appreciation Society.. :)
Real Emerald
08-01-2020, 07:14 PM
😂😂😂 thank you!!
A naughty step for every player, brilliant. 👍
weecounty hibby
08-01-2020, 07:16 PM
First thing that jumped out at me when I started scrolling through that, was the handle of one of the posters
Ex member of the SaS
Junior Member
What the holy ****!!!
How many screws have to be loose to choose a name like that? "Look at me Lads... I'm really, really hard"
Aye, OK pal!... Don't forget to pick up your cardigan from the cleaners
You shouldn't be taking the piss out of people who sacrifice so much for the benefit of others. The Scottish Ambulance Service is a great organisation!!
Jack Hackett
08-01-2020, 07:19 PM
It's probably ex member of the Stendel appreciation Society.. :)
You're probably right. An actual ex-member of the SAS, would know how to spell the acronym.
Bostonhibby
08-01-2020, 07:20 PM
You shouldn't be taking the piss out of people who sacrifice so much for the benefit of others. The Scottish Ambulance Service is a great organisation!!Scottish Ambulance Service is also a prominent member of their very own creditors list.
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WillowbraeHibby
08-01-2020, 07:20 PM
You're probably right. An actual ex-member of the SAS, would know how to spell the acronym.
Yep.
hibsfan7
08-01-2020, 07:22 PM
Berra never won the scottish cup with hearts
we are hibs
08-01-2020, 07:23 PM
Berra never won the scottish cup with hearts
He got a winners medal in 2006 as an unused sub
WoreTheGreen
08-01-2020, 07:25 PM
Did he do a John Terry
weecounty hibby
08-01-2020, 07:27 PM
Scottish Ambulance Service is also a prominent member of their very own creditors list.
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Good point. Maybe why he is an ex member, cutbacks due to being stiffed by the jambos.
Keith_M
08-01-2020, 07:27 PM
Not usually one to bother but that ‘In Stendel We Trust’ thread was so weird that I couldn’t stop reading. A German flag the size of the Wheatfield with all their blue nose sympathisers waving Union Jack’s in amongst it.
A picture from a match day or a made-up photo?
JohnMcM
08-01-2020, 07:32 PM
I believe this is the photo you're looking for. :wink:
22864
That's a photo-shopping thingy the youngsters do today isn't it? No way they really did that. Did they??
Jones28
08-01-2020, 07:33 PM
"in a bid to improve supporter fitness, we built a set of stairs that led to a brick wall. Any supporter making the initial climb to the top of the stairs will be forced to climb back down the stairs, thus doubling the exercise required. You can thank us later."
Anyone who hasn’t listened to the post derby longbangers episode needs to - just to hear Brian bursting out laughing at this, and all things hearts.
matty_f
08-01-2020, 07:35 PM
Anyone who hasn’t listened to the post derby longbangers episode needs to - just to hear Brian bursting out laughing at this, and all things hearts.
I think that was the most we've ever laughed on an episode 😂
Jones28
08-01-2020, 07:41 PM
I think that was the most we've ever laughed on an episode 😂
I was walking the bairn through the village cracking up, got some looks of the resident rangers fans 😂
That's a photo-shopping thingy the youngsters do today isn't it? No way they really did that. Did they??
BeLIEve.... they did!!
Another first for them as a club!
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Billy Whizz
08-01-2020, 08:10 PM
Berra never won the scottish cup with hearts
But he got them a big fee when he moved down south
Cod Boy
08-01-2020, 08:17 PM
Berra never won the scottish cup with hearts
He got a medal in the final against Gretna he was a unused substitute.
hibsfan7
08-01-2020, 08:20 PM
So he did i did not know he was an unused sub
So he did i did not know he was an unused sub
That's probably why they won otherwise he would've scored an og.
Peevemor
08-01-2020, 08:46 PM
You're probably right. An actual ex-member of the SAS, would know how to spell the acronym.He was probably in the TA (Saturdays and Sundays).
jacomo
08-01-2020, 08:47 PM
First thing that jumped out at me when I started scrolling through that, was the handle of one of the posters
Ex member of the SaS
Junior Member
What the holy ****!!!
How many screws have to be loose to choose a name like that? "Look at me Lads... I'm really, really hard"
Aye, OK pal!... Don't forget to pick up your cardigan from the cleaners
He’s going to track you down and kill you now.
If his mammy lets him play Fortnite, that is.
Alfred E Newman
08-01-2020, 08:55 PM
The 'We are all Daniel Stendel' thread runs it close for a pantomime award...
https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/186821-we-are-all-daniel-stendel/
What a shower of weirdos.
flash
09-01-2020, 09:14 AM
Not sure how the huge German flag display sits when you remember this is the football club who singlehandedly defeated the Hun twice in world wars.
Since452
09-01-2020, 09:16 AM
Not sure how the huge German flag display sits when you remember this is the football club who singlehandedly defeated the Hun twice in world wars.
Wouldn't really work with their 10 German bombers song either
JeMeSouviens
09-01-2020, 09:20 AM
You do realise the Easter Road tunnel is also slightly off set...they're just following the fashions we set
It's only a matter of time before the Hearts players emerge from an authentic WWI trench complete with barb wire.
KingPat4
09-01-2020, 10:09 AM
It's only a matter of time before the Hearts players emerge from an authentic WWI trench complete with barb wire.
Well, they already have the authentic trench.
Their pitch.
The 'We are all Daniel Stendel' thread runs it close for a pantomime award...
https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/186821-we-are-all-daniel-stendel/
It’s comedy gold stuff. They are posting youtube Barnsley wins and this proves is certain to be a success. When was the last time a manager in place for 6 weeks has fans posting videos of his previous club? When one of two suggest we should wait until he has some hearts victories they get shouted down for negativity. Some are even talking about “the last few weeks proves he is transforming the club”. 4 defeats and a heroic draw (which is better than any other wins), zero new players and ditched some of the experienced players. If that’s transformation then they are truly screwed.
Since452
09-01-2020, 10:17 AM
It’s comedy gold stuff. They are posting youtube Barnsley wins and this proves is certain to be a success. When was the last time a manager in place for 6 weeks has fans posting videos of his previous club? When one of two suggest we should wait until he has some hearts victories they get shouted down for negativity. Some are even talking about “the last few weeks proves he is transforming the club”. 4 defeats and a heroic draw (which is better than any other wins), zero new players and ditched some of the experienced players. If that’s transformation then they are truly screwed.
Very odd behaviour. You'd think it was Klopp they had not a guy less successful than Paul Heckingbottom
hibbyfraelibby
09-01-2020, 10:28 AM
First thing that jumped out at me when I started scrolling through that, was the handle of one of the posters
Ex member of the SaS
Junior Member
What the holy ****!!!
How many screws have to be loose to choose a name like that? "Look at me Lads... I'm really, really hard"
Aye, OK pal!... Don't forget to pick up your cardigan from the cleaners
SaS = Scottish Ambulance Service
He could come in handy when the 400,000 famous fans collapse when there is a Hearts Attack...
Oscar T Grouch
09-01-2020, 11:00 AM
I think it is going to be interesting to see how this all falls apart for them. In that thread on 12pointsback there is only one calling as it is, worse than it was with Levein. Given Stewarts injury for Ross County they could get a point or even 3 up there, but it won't be easy, County are good on the counter attack which will hurt them given their lack of pace in the team. I wonder how long, how many more defeats before the penny drops? I wonder, if a right royal humping off the huns will shake any of them? St J away comes next, again not easy when you're at the foot of the table and this one could widen the gap at the bottom. Will it be when Killie take all three points at the gorgie library? I am sure none of them will expect to take a point from Celtc park so they drift to the next foot of the table games against Hamilton and the Paisley saints. This is when I predict their love affair with Jerry Butcher will falter. This is when they will realise they are well and truly buggered. There will of course be some deluded Duncans stick ardently to their proclamation of love to St Endel, but as the gap at the bottom widens 12pointsback should give us all a lot of entertainment over the coming months.
This is the first coherent post ive read on kickback for a while:
I'm sure this will be unpopular, but I'll be 100% behind the whole club when I'm at games, manager, players, Board. On a discussion forum I'll discuss what is going well and what is going badly. At the moment things have not gone well for Daniel. Results have got worse. We have dropped to 12th place. We have squad disharmony going public. There has been little sign of his pressing style working and he seems disinclined to adopt any other style to get a result. The flip side is that it is still very early in his time at Hearts and he could change it around. The reality is that he will have the majority of the same squad at the end of this window as at the start, so he has to get winning performances out of the players he has not just bring in his own team. So far he has only actually got rid of one player, there are no guarantees he will be able to move Berra, Wighton or anyone else on. He absolutely has to avoid relegation. That for me is the be all and end all of the next 6 months. One regular poster wrote on another thread yesterday that they were happy to see us relegated if that allowed Stendel to implement his plans. I thought that was crazy talk, but no one picked him up on it. I'm behind the club and Stendel, but the idea that things are going really well seems to me to be a mass delusion.
HFC93
09-01-2020, 12:42 PM
I have a theory that Stendel is sabotaging Hearts from the inside in revenge for the club singlehandedly defeating Germany in the First World War.
we are hibs
09-01-2020, 12:56 PM
Stendel is one picture on top of arthur seat away from going full butcher
JeMeSouviens
09-01-2020, 01:02 PM
This is the first coherent post ive read on kickback for a while:
I'm sure this will be unpopular, but I'll be 100% behind the whole club when I'm at games, manager, players, Board. On a discussion forum I'll discuss what is going well and what is going badly. At the moment things have not gone well for Daniel. Results have got worse. We have dropped to 12th place. We have squad disharmony going public. There has been little sign of his pressing style working and he seems disinclined to adopt any other style to get a result. The flip side is that it is still very early in his time at Hearts and he could change it around. The reality is that he will have the majority of the same squad at the end of this window as at the start, so he has to get winning performances out of the players he has not just bring in his own team. So far he has only actually got rid of one player, there are no guarantees he will be able to move Berra, Wighton or anyone else on. He absolutely has to avoid relegation. That for me is the be all and end all of the next 6 months. One regular poster wrote on another thread yesterday that they were happy to see us relegated if that allowed Stendel to implement his plans. I thought that was crazy talk, but no one picked him up on it. I'm behind the club and Stendel, but the idea that things are going really well seems to me to be a mass delusion.
Clearly a bitter undercover Hobo who doesn't understand the significance of the draw to end all draws. :rolleyes:
Keith_M
09-01-2020, 01:09 PM
This is the first coherent post ive read on kickback for a while:
I'm sure this will be unpopular, but I'll be 100% behind the whole club when I'm at games, manager, players, Board. On a discussion forum I'll discuss what is going well and what is going badly. At the moment things have not gone well for Daniel. Results have got worse. We have dropped to 12th place. We have squad disharmony going public. There has been little sign of his pressing style working and he seems disinclined to adopt any other style to get a result. The flip side is that it is still very early in his time at Hearts and he could change it around. The reality is that he will have the majority of the same squad at the end of this window as at the start, so he has to get winning performances out of the players he has not just bring in his own team. So far he has only actually got rid of one player, there are no guarantees he will be able to move Berra, Wighton or anyone else on. He absolutely has to avoid relegation. That for me is the be all and end all of the next 6 months. One regular poster wrote on another thread yesterday that they were happy to see us relegated if that allowed Stendel to implement his plans. I thought that was crazy talk, but no one picked him up on it. I'm behind the club and Stendel, but the idea that things are going really well seems to me to be a mass delusion.
That's a very balanced and sensible viewpoint.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got some stick for it, though.
Bostonhibby
09-01-2020, 01:11 PM
This is the first coherent post ive read on kickback for a while:
I'm sure this will be unpopular, but I'll be 100% behind the whole club when I'm at games, manager, players, Board. On a discussion forum I'll discuss what is going well and what is going badly. At the moment things have not gone well for Daniel. Results have got worse. We have dropped to 12th place. We have squad disharmony going public. There has been little sign of his pressing style working and he seems disinclined to adopt any other style to get a result. The flip side is that it is still very early in his time at Hearts and he could change it around. The reality is that he will have the majority of the same squad at the end of this window as at the start, so he has to get winning performances out of the players he has not just bring in his own team. So far he has only actually got rid of one player, there are no guarantees he will be able to move Berra, Wighton or anyone else on. He absolutely has to avoid relegation. That for me is the be all and end all of the next 6 months. One regular poster wrote on another thread yesterday that they were happy to see us relegated if that allowed Stendel to implement his plans. I thought that was crazy talk, but no one picked him up on it. I'm behind the club and Stendel, but the idea that things are going really well seems to me to be a mass delusion.Like paying their creditors, it'll never catch on.
Which is pleasing. They should absolutely carry on as they are. The Barnsley effect has transferred seamlessly to Gorgie.
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Jim44
09-01-2020, 01:20 PM
The absolute faith shown by the muppets in their Messiah (:faf:) is incredible. He has done nothing on the park yet, except for a home draw against Aberdeen, yet, to a man they are blindly backing him to the hilt on the supposed and debatable improvement he has made and in his getting rid of senior players. Until the sacking of Levein and McPhee, the likes of Berra and Whelan were the undisputed backbone of their struggling team and even after their sacking were still regarded as ever presents. Enter Strudel, the cull begins and is widely applauded by everyone and the cull victims are ripped to shreds on their KB forum by their erstwhile devotees. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would like to think that, in similar circumstances, we would welcome a new regime but err on the realistic side of caution before pledging blind faith and total confidence. I hope Strudel falls flat on his erchie.
ian cruise
09-01-2020, 02:27 PM
Disappointed Whelan didn’t demand his pay off
I'm not so sure he didn't get one, if he didn't it must be because his contract had a break clause. There's no way he just was sent a contract to sign that said he was getting laid off without payment and he just signed it, particularly when you read how bitter he is. They've either paid him what he was due or there was a clause saying they could cancel it after 6 months if they wished for X amount.
Peevemor
09-01-2020, 02:32 PM
I'm not so sure he didn't get one, if he didn't it must be because his contract had a break clause. There's no way he just was sent a contract to sign that said he was getting laid off without payment and he just signed it, particularly when you read how bitter he is. They've either paid him what he was due or there was a clause saying they could cancel it after 6 months if they wished for X amount.
I think the latter or at very least there was a pay off offered in the email/contract he was sent which he decided to accept instead of dragging things out.
Hibee87
09-01-2020, 02:42 PM
I'm not so sure he didn't get one, if he didn't it must be because his contract had a break clause. There's no way he just was sent a contract to sign that said he was getting laid off without payment and he just signed it, particularly when you read how bitter he is. They've either paid him what he was due or there was a clause saying they could cancel it after 6 months if they wished for X amount.
Whelan has been quoted as saying he was happy to leave with no pay off just to get out of there. Not sure why he would make that up tbh, and I imagine it will have been a relative pittance in comparison to his personal wealth.
grunt
09-01-2020, 03:58 PM
Whelan has been quoted as saying he was happy to leave with no pay off just to get out of there. Not sure why he would make that up tbh, and I imagine it will have been a relative pittance in comparison to his personal wealth.I know its the Daily Record, but there's a transcript of a discussion Whelan had on TalkSport this morning:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/glenn-whelan-hearts-row-rumbles-21246179
Simon Jordan: "Glenn, you must know what the motivation is? You must have an inkling? Is it because you're the highest paid player there? Because the owner doesn't like you?"
Glenn Whelan: "That's what I mean and that's why I'm talking up. I've had no contact with the owner."
SJ: "You're going to get paid, you have a year's contract with Hearts, they're going to pay you?"
GW: "No, it was a terminated contract."
SJ: "They can't just terminate a contract without a reason."
GW: "They asked me to cancel the contract."
SJ: "But you don't have to Glenn, you've got the PFA sitting on one side of the fence saying to you - under no circumstances will you be cancelling your contract, you've done nothing wrong.
"You're entitled. You've signed a contract with Hearts - they're stuck with you, you're stuck with them.
"You wouldn't be giving up your contact, surely? You haven't done anything wrong."
GW: "I've not done anything wrong but it just got to a stage where that's where they wanted to go. I wasn't in it for the money.
"I wasn't up there just to get paid, I wanted to play, keep playing at the highest level."
SJ: "Glenn, it's a point of principle. If you're going to come out and defend yourself, as you are, and you're entitled to do so.
"Surely, by the same token, if you wanted to leave and the club didn't want you to leave, you couldn't leave.
"If you said to Hearts: 'I want to leave', and Hearts said no, you wouldn't have the option to cancel your contract you'd have to bleeding well get on with it.
"I'm curious to see why. If this behaviour meted out to you, and I'm not suggesting it's right or wrong I'm just reacting to the circumstances and saying if we put the money to one side, there's a point of principle.
"And I know when you die your principles die with you, but you're a professional footballer and you full well know the value of a contract. And your representatives and the PFA know the value of a contract.
"You can't have football clubs running around cancelling contracts when they feel like it."
GW: "What I'm saying, after the game on Boxing Day I wasn't in the squad, then I wasn't in the squad against Aberdeen (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/aberdeen-fc) , and-
SJ: "That's fine Glenn but you get paid. If they want you to go then their obligation is to pay you, whether that's right or wrong it cuts both ways.
"As a former owner, I had a Scottish player, Jamie Fullarton, and I didn't like him, neither did the manager.
"I got rid of him, but I had to pay him.
"What I'm trying to understand is how this is manifested itself. Hearts' run of form is pretty dreadful right now so the whole place is probably not in the greatest of order, but that doesn't mean one particular player should be meted.
"I'm trying to understand why Glenn, an experienced player, would take this and take a contract that is clearly his right and turn round and say: 'I'm just going to walk away I'm being treated abominably.'"
GW: "That's what I'm saying, it wasn't a case of digging my heels in and wanting the contract paid up. If I wasn't there to play or train then why be there?
"It was a case of I'll go one way, you go the other, we'll shake hands and that's it. But it wasn't that.
"I got an email from the secretary of the club basically saying would I sign the contract for termination to become a free agent.
"That's what I did, I wasn't there for money. I was there to play and try and prove things."
Cataplana
09-01-2020, 04:02 PM
I know its the Daily Record, but there's a transcript of a discussion Whelan had on TalkSport this morning:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/glenn-whelan-hearts-row-rumbles-21246179
Suggests he was glad just to get out. Don't know why the interviewer keeps on at him about the money, the guy has basically said he doesn't care.
grunt
09-01-2020, 04:07 PM
Suggests he was glad just to get out. Don't know why the interviewer keeps on at him about the money, the guy has basically said he doesn't care.Simon Jordan, ex Chairman / owner Crystal Palace FC. Colourful character. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Jordan
bingo70
09-01-2020, 04:07 PM
Suggests he was glad just to get out. Don't know why the interviewer keeps on at him about the money, the guy has basically said he doesn't care.
Simon Jordan is a money man so I suspect he won’t be able to see past that side of it.
Glenn Whelan probably just didn’t want to go through the process of training with reserves and staying away from home when he could leave and probably find another club.
The Captain....
09-01-2020, 04:09 PM
I know its the Daily Record, but there's a transcript of a discussion Whelan had on TalkSport this morning:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/glenn-whelan-hearts-row-rumbles-21246179I cant imagine this will be helping Hearts bring players in going forward. The way that club is run is absolutely without any scruples or standards. If I was an agent I wouldn't let a player go there for any money...it isn't worth the complications.
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Danderhall Hibs
09-01-2020, 04:15 PM
I cant imagine this will be helping Hearts bring players in going forward. The way that club is run is absolutely without any scruples or standards. If I was an agent I wouldn't let a player go there for any money...it isn't worth the complications.
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Footballers generally don’t care as long as they get paid. No morals. Look at the manager - he was still taking a wage from Barnsley when he took the Hearts job.
Has there been any update on that court case?
04Sauzee
09-01-2020, 04:21 PM
According to most on Kickback this boy is normally ITK and this is wjat he has recently posted
Notts1874 Notts1874
Posted 24 minutes ago
There is a meeting going on now between Stendel and Murray. Most of Stendel's first choices seemed to have said no for one reason or another.
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According to most on Kickback this boy is normally ITK and this is wjat he has recently posted
Notts1874 Notts1874
Posted 24 minutes ago
There is a meeting going on now between Stendel and Murray. Most of Stendel's first choices seemed to have said no for one reason or another.
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Who's Murray?
Mon_the_cabbage
09-01-2020, 04:27 PM
Who's Murray?
Duncan? 😀😀😀
04Sauzee
09-01-2020, 04:28 PM
Who's Murray?
Chief Scout John Murray i assume?
G B Young
09-01-2020, 05:08 PM
Simon Jordan is a money man so I suspect he won’t be able to see past that side of it.
Glenn Whelan probably just didn’t want to go through the process of training with reserves and staying away from home when he could leave and probably find another club.
If he really did walk away from the contract it's a big help to Hearts bearing in mind how skint they are. They should be thanking him for doing so, not brushing him off with an email. His treatment by Stendel seems extremely shabby and he's right to call the club out as 'amateurish'. He certainly walks away looking like the more professional party here.
Since452
09-01-2020, 05:44 PM
I would end myself laughing if Ian Murray's Airdrie knocked them out the cup, and I think they will.
Captain Trips
09-01-2020, 05:44 PM
Stendel invites more senior players into new office for talks.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Trapdoor.jpg
According to most on Kickback this boy is normally ITK and this is wjat he has recently posted
Notts1874 Notts1874
Posted 24 minutes ago
There is a meeting going on now between Stendel and Murray. Most of Stendel's first choices seemed to have said no for one reason or another.
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Not surprised at that. They are on a bad run of form, are 5 points adrift at the bottom and have a difficult run of matches coming up which could see them further adrift. There's a good chance they'll be relegated so it isn't exactly appealing to any potential signings. Who wants a relegation on their CV? Add in the Berra and Whelan news stories which aren't exactly painting Hearts in a positive light.
Can't imagine many players of the standard they need/are after that have a club at the moment, would want to leave where they are to join the HMFC (Hearts Massive F***ing Cluster***k). You'd have to be desperate to go there. :faf:
Stendel invites more senior players into new office for talks.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Trapdoor.jpg
Uche, MacLean and Wighton were called in but they all missed.
I would end myself laughing if Ian Murray's Airdrie knocked them out the cup, and I think they will.
Me too, looked for bookies giving odds last night but it's too soon.
Captain Trips
09-01-2020, 05:59 PM
Uche, MacLean and Wighton were called in but they all missed.
Uche couldnt fit.
Alfred E Newman
09-01-2020, 06:01 PM
The absolute faith shown by the muppets in their Messiah (:faf:) is incredible. He has done nothing on the park yet, except for a home draw against Aberdeen, yet, to a man they are blindly backing him to the hilt on the supposed and debatable improvement he has made and in his getting rid of senior players. Until the sacking of Levein and McPhee, the likes of Berra and Whelan were the undisputed backbone of their struggling team and even after their sacking were still regarded as ever presents. Enter Strudel, the cull begins and is widely applauded by everyone and the cull victims are ripped to shreds on their KB forum by their erstwhile devotees. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would like to think that, in similar circumstances, we would welcome a new regime but err on the realistic side of caution before pledging blind faith and total confidence. I hope Strudel falls flat on his erchie.
There has been more criticism of Jack Ross on here than Herr Stendal on keichback. They are a strange lot indeed.
Since452
09-01-2020, 06:01 PM
According to most on Kickback this boy is normally ITK and this is wjat he has recently posted
Notts1874 Notts1874
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There is a meeting going on now between Stendel and Murray. Most of Stendel's first choices seemed to have said no for one reason or another.
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Punted their captain, highest profile player Whelan, their best winger Mulraney, and MacLean who he's played almost every week and his targets have said thanks but no thanks? Very pleasing if true
Springbank
09-01-2020, 06:02 PM
According to most on Kickback this boy is normally ITK and this is wjat he has recently posted
Notts1874 Notts1874
Posted 24 minutes ago
There is a meeting going on now between Stendel and Murray. Most of Stendel's first choices seemed to have said no for one reason or another.
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One reason or another...
Captain Trips
09-01-2020, 06:04 PM
One reason or another...
The reasons are he is a dick or a fanny
Peevemor
09-01-2020, 06:06 PM
Not surprised at that. They are on a bad run of form, are 5 points adrift at the bottom and have a difficult run of matches coming up which could see them further adrift. There's a good chance they'll be relegated so it isn't exactly appealing to any potential signings. Who wants a relegation on their CV? Add in the Berra and Whelan news stories which aren't exactly painting Hearts in a positive light.
Can't imagine many players of the standard they need/are after that have a club at the moment, would want to leave where they are to join the HMFC (Hearts Massive F***ing Cluster***k). You'd have to be desperate to go there. :faf:A good chance they'll be relegated? I must have misunderstood, I though one point every five games was going to see them OK.
Captain Trips
09-01-2020, 06:11 PM
Punted their captain, highest profile player Whelan, their best winger Mulraney, and MacLean who he's played almost every week and his targets have said thanks but no thanks? Very pleasing if true
Hearts finally find somebody who will join:
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Ozyhibby
09-01-2020, 06:22 PM
12 days until they play Ross County in what is their biggest game in years and no sign of any new signings and 6 players told they are no longer wanted. Stendel appears to be doing a fantastic job.
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bingo70
09-01-2020, 06:28 PM
12 days until they play Ross County in what is their biggest game in years and no sign of any new signings and 6 players told they are no longer wanted. Stendel appears to be doing a fantastic job.
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Stendel has probably gone back to Germany for a while.
el hibs
09-01-2020, 06:33 PM
I would end myself laughing if Ian Murray's Airdrie knocked them out the cup, and I think they will.
Would like them to get through that without a money spinning replay, so they assume all is Barry and spend less on the squad and opt to avoid getting players in.
B.H.F.C
09-01-2020, 06:34 PM
12 days until they play Ross County in what is their biggest game in years and no sign of any new signings and 6 players told they are no longer wanted. Stendel appears to be doing a fantastic job.
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You forgot to mention that they are also in a substantially worse position than when he arrived.
Captain Trips
09-01-2020, 06:47 PM
You forgot to mention that they are also in a substantially worse position than when he arrived.
this could very well be their very own Terry Butcher story.
12 days until they play Ross County in what is their biggest game in years and no sign of any new signings and 6 players told they are no longer wanted. Stendel appears to be doing a fantastic job.
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Wonder if the 6 players will get a second chance if they sign no one.
Do Berra, Wigton, Mulraney, Uche, MacLean and the other now just sit it out until they find new clubs, sit it out or doesDanny boy still play them if they are short on numbers.
Excellent job imho!
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HoboHarry
09-01-2020, 07:03 PM
this could very well be their very own Jerry Butcher story.
Fixed that for you...... (stolen from another poster yesterday) :greengrin
Eyrie
09-01-2020, 07:27 PM
We're now on page 7-0 of this comedy.
Northernhibee
09-01-2020, 08:14 PM
The players took a break today to visit a local orphanage.
“It was absolutely heartbreaking to see the look of despair and hopelessness in their eyes” said Sally, aged six.
RyeSloan
09-01-2020, 08:31 PM
Wonder if the 6 players will get a second chance if they sign no one.
Do Berra, Wigton, Mulraney, Uche, MacLean and the other now just sit it out until they find new clubs, sit it out or doesDanny boy still play them if they are short on numbers.
Excellent job imho!
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Have I missed the Uche binned news?
Bostonhibby
09-01-2020, 08:37 PM
Have I missed the Uche binned news?They're gonna need a bigger bin.
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Jones28
09-01-2020, 08:39 PM
They're gonna need a bigger bin.
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I just have an image of his legs sticking oot a wheelie bin.
jacomo
09-01-2020, 08:42 PM
The players took a break today to visit a local orphanage.
“It was absolutely heartbreaking to see the look of despair and hopelessness in their eyes” said Sally, aged six.
Then in the afternoon they visited a hospice etc and so on.
Joe6-2
09-01-2020, 10:19 PM
I just have an image of his legs sticking oot a wheelie bin.
😂😂
HoboHarry
09-01-2020, 11:24 PM
They're gonna need a bigger bin.
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Nade Super Size in fact........
Captain Trips
10-01-2020, 01:05 AM
Some of the inmates at Saughton Prison were given a tour of Tynecastle yesterday on the prisons annual "things could be worse" tour.
Ozyhibby
10-01-2020, 05:36 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-invest-in-medical-department-in-response-to-injury-crisis-1-5072902
Levien still very much involved.
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Have I missed the Uche binned news?
I thought I read he was told he can go and wasn’t in his plans??
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lyonhibs
10-01-2020, 06:27 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-invest-in-medical-department-in-response-to-injury-crisis-1-5072902
Levien still very much involved.
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I'm probably a peg selling hobo here, but do excerpts of that not read like, between the lines, she thinks that some member of the physio or sports science department at Hearts is, or has been, feeding her a crock of ***** and might not, in her opinion, have been doing their job to 100%?
RyeSloan
10-01-2020, 06:48 AM
I'm probably a peg selling hobo here, but do excerpts of that not read like, between the lines, she thinks that some member of the physio or sports science department at Hearts is, or has been, feeding her a crock of ***** and might not, in her opinion, have been doing their job to 100%?
For an IT person she always seems rather focussed on getting a single person to tell her what is happening for specific areas. This appears to inevitably involve more cost and complexity, as well of course a reliance on that person knowing what they are talking about!
It’s like she has never heard of system and process refinement to make sure you get good outcomes. To me it sounds like they have plenty of medical staff but simply don’t have them structured correctly.
Anyhoo yet again she comes across as well meaning but absolutely clueless.
Oscar T Grouch
10-01-2020, 07:13 AM
St endel looking to sign 5 players this window including 2 currently playing at Barnsley. From bbc gossip
Barnsley duo Mamadou Thiam and Jordan Green have been targeted by Hearts as Daniel Stendel looks to make his first signings at Tynecastle. (Daily Record)
Hearts are targeting five new arrivals before the end of the month as manager Daniel Stendel strives to reinforce his squad. (Edinburgh Evening News)
Given the 6 he’s ‘released’ it’ll be interesting to see how many he will get in. Can’t imagine two players with contracts in the championship will come cheap or will come up here at all.
Since452
10-01-2020, 07:16 AM
St endel looking to sign 5 players this window including 2 currently playing at Barnsley. From bbc gossip
Barnsley duo Mamadou Thiam and Jordan Green have been targeted by Hearts as Daniel Stendel looks to make his first signings at Tynecastle. (Daily Record)
Hearts are targeting five new arrivals before the end of the month as manager Daniel Stendel strives to reinforce his squad. (Edinburgh Evening News)
Given the 6 he’s ‘released’ it’ll be interesting to see how many he will get in. Can’t imagine two players with contracts in the championship will come cheap or will come up here at all.
If it's two that Barnsley's new manager dropped when he joined after Stendel led them to 11 without a win I'm all for it
St endel looking to sign 5 players this window including 2 currently playing at Barnsley. From bbc gossip
Barnsley duo Mamadou Thiam and Jordan Green have been targeted by Hearts as Daniel Stendel looks to make his first signings at Tynecastle. (Daily Record)
Hearts are targeting five new arrivals before the end of the month as manager Daniel Stendel strives to reinforce his squad. (Edinburgh Evening News)
Given the 6 he’s ‘released’ it’ll be interesting to see how many he will get in. Can’t imagine two players with contracts in the championship will come cheap or will come up here at all.
19 yr old striker from Wolfsburg as well according to the herald also still under contract
Oscar T Grouch
10-01-2020, 07:36 AM
19 yr old striker from Wolfsburg as well according to the herald also still under contract
All of which will cost cash up front. They may well save money on wages (but this isn’t guaranteed if players don’t move on) but they’ll need a good cash injection to get these players in. Also being rooted to the bottom of the Scottish Premiership cannae be an attractive option for a Championship or Bundeslega (sp) player
Brightside
10-01-2020, 07:40 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-invest-in-medical-department-in-response-to-injury-crisis-1-5072902
Levien still very much involved.
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Players are injured by coaches or in games not by laying on a bed in the physio room. Budge really is clueless. Levein was the reason for the injury issues.
St endel looking to sign 5 players this window including 2 currently playing at Barnsley. From bbc gossip
Barnsley duo Mamadou Thiam and Jordan Green have been targeted by Hearts as Daniel Stendel looks to make his first signings at Tynecastle. (Daily Record)
Hearts are targeting five new arrivals before the end of the month as manager Daniel Stendel strives to reinforce his squad. (Edinburgh Evening News)
Given the 6 he’s ‘released’ it’ll be interesting to see how many he will get in. Can’t imagine two players with contracts in the championship will come cheap or will come up here at all.
If Barnsley are still in dispute with hertz I can't see them loaning any players. Even if it's not an official dispute he certainly left them under a cloud.
FilipinoHibs
10-01-2020, 07:54 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-invest-in-medical-department-in-response-to-injury-crisis-1-5072902
Levien still very much involved.
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"2018-19 was another successful year and we got off to a fantastic start"
Craig Levein is helping her find tge right people in each department who will tell her the truth.
They are making the Trump regime look almost sane. This comedy show is running and running.
Since452
10-01-2020, 07:56 AM
I genuinely feel Hearts should concentrate on rebuilding in the Championship next season. Would give them a chance to revamp the squad with far less competition involved and win most weeks under Stendels new style. They'd probably come back stronger. He has a promotion on his record already so maybe the Hearts board had one eye on that
bingo70
10-01-2020, 07:57 AM
If it's two that Barnsley's new manager dropped when he joined after Stendel led them to 11 without a win I'm all for it
The two Barnsley lads haven’t played any football in months and would take a good while to get up to the speed of Scottish football. Hearts don’t have time.
Similar could be said of this 19 year old German prospect, he might be a good talent but Scottish football has swallowed up and spat out many a lightweight talented youngster that isn’t prepared for this kind of game. I’d also guess he’s not played much first team football recently.
Jerry Butcher seems to be trying to make the wholesales changes that should be made in the summer, not in January.
Bostonhibby
10-01-2020, 07:59 AM
If Barnsley are still in dispute with hertz I can't see them loaning any players. Even if it's not an official dispute he certainly left them under a cloud.To be fair their form improved no end since he left so since Hearts took him off their hands and gave him somewhere else to continue his long winless run maybe Barnsley should at least offer to form one of those weird yam special relationship things.
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Brightside
10-01-2020, 08:00 AM
According to someone at Hearts (I know!) his first 3 requests were knocked back by the players instantly.
Bostonhibby
10-01-2020, 08:02 AM
According to someone at Hearts (I know!) his first 3 requests were knocked back by the players instantly.Aye but not everyone likes to start the morning off with 3 pints of lager and a tequila slammer.
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Since452
10-01-2020, 08:04 AM
St endel looking to sign 5 players this window including 2 currently playing at Barnsley. From bbc gossip
Barnsley duo Mamadou Thiam and Jordan Green have been targeted by Hearts as Daniel Stendel looks to make his first signings at Tynecastle. (Daily Record)
Hearts are targeting five new arrivals before the end of the month as manager Daniel Stendel strives to reinforce his squad. (Edinburgh Evening News)
Given the 6 he’s ‘released’ it’ll be interesting to see how many he will get in. Can’t imagine two players with contracts in the championship will come cheap or will come up here at all.
Looking at the Barnsley forum their fans seem to want to drive the two players up to Tynecastle themselves
we are hibs
10-01-2020, 08:05 AM
According to someone at Hearts (I know!) his first 3 requests were knocked back by the players instantly.
They'll be panicking now. Hes already told numerous other players they can go and the ones he hasnt are unimpressed with the way hes gone about it with some (Berra). They either get 2nd choice and potentially more 2nd rate trash in like they already have, or will need to turn back to the players hes already dismissed as pish.
Springbank
10-01-2020, 08:07 AM
12 days until they play Ross County in what is their biggest game in years and no sign of any new signings and 6 players told they are no longer wanted. Stendel appears to be doing a fantastic job.
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Hearts biggest game of the 2010's decade was in February 2016 and they failed to stop Hibs winning the Cup, thereby losing their song book and any feel good factor
MikeyS
10-01-2020, 08:10 AM
19 yr old striker from Wolfsburg as well according to the herald also still under contract
He plays for a side in a Wolfsburg strip but in the Regionalla Nord (whatever that is?) League.
I would imagine Jamie-Lee Napier is probably closer to playing in Chelsea's 1st team than this boy is to Wolfsburg's
FilipinoHibs
10-01-2020, 08:10 AM
Hearts biggest game of the 2010's decade was in February 2016 and they failed to stop Hibs winning the Cup, thereby losing their song book and any feel good factor
It also led to the sacking of their most competent manager of the last 5 years.
Ozyhibby
10-01-2020, 08:11 AM
Hearts biggest game of the 2010's decade was in February 2016 and they failed to stop Hibs winning the Cup, thereby losing their song book and any feel good factor
To be fair they may argue the 2012 final was more important?
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JimBHibees
10-01-2020, 08:12 AM
Players are injured by coaches or in games not by laying on a bed in the physio room. Budge really is clueless. Levein was the reason for the injury issues.
In what way? Is it true he had them running up and down murder hill at Gullane beach? If so that seems pretty unusual in this day and age and would assume most sports scientists would advise against that. Was wondering when Levein got any medical expertise to be reviewing what may have gone wrong in that area. Again seems strange for any football person to be tasked with this.
Since452
10-01-2020, 08:16 AM
It also led to the sacking of their most competent manager of the last 5 years.
Crazy when you think abou it. Can't help but feel Hearts fans bring it on themselves.
They wanted Neilson gone when they were 3rd.
They wanted Cathro gone and Levein reinstated.
They wanted Levein gone as they thought it was bad under him.
They've now ended up with Daniel Stendel who can't buy a win when they all wanted Neil Warnock and are all frantically backtracking and talking in German to each other etc. Strange lot
Brightside
10-01-2020, 08:43 AM
In what way? Is it true he had them running up and down murder hill at Gullane beach? If so that seems pretty unusual in this day and age and would assume most sports scientists would advise against that. Was wondering when Levein got any medical expertise to be reviewing what may have gone wrong in that area. Again seems strange for any football person to be tasked with this.
Yes he did. And he also played people who weren’t fit. Training full on when not fully warmed up. That’s how players get injured. First half hour of any session should be warm ups and dynamic stretching. Last half hour should be the same. Then man is from a different time. Double sessions. Nothing but running?? Clueless
Not In The Know
10-01-2020, 08:58 AM
According to someone at Hearts (I know!) his first 3 requests were knocked back by the players instantly.
What kind of requests were they Underscore? 👍🏻
Northernhibee
10-01-2020, 09:00 AM
It also led to the sacking of their most competent manager of the last 5 years.
It’s incredible that their obsession with being the “big team” put them into this mess.
They get knocked out of the cup by us and hound out Robbie. First bad managerial decision sees Cathro appointed and they replace him with Levein who systematically tears them to shreds by signing dross and journeymen. They finish behind us in the league two years running so it’s time for a change again and they appoint a man who hasn’t won in nearly half a season.
All because of being knocked out of the cup in 2016.
Brightside
10-01-2020, 09:21 AM
What kind of requests were they Underscore? 👍🏻
3 players he wanted to sign. They had a German lad in for a trial too but thats not going anywhere.
I'm Spartacus
10-01-2020, 09:22 AM
Hearts biggest game of the 2010's decade was in February 2016 and they failed to stop Hibs winning the Cup, thereby losing their song book and any feel good factor
To be fair they may argue the 2012 final was more important?
Springbank, are you for real? We would all swap 2016 for 2012, lets not kid ourselves. 2016 has gone a LONG way to erasing the pain, but a SC cup replay isn't close to being their biggest game of the 2010's.
Oscar T Grouch
10-01-2020, 09:46 AM
Looking at the Barnsley forum their fans seem to want to drive the two players up to Tynecastle themselves
Good, that will mean they are pretty bad players, Thiam has 6 months contract left so he would probably let go for nothing or can sign a pre-contract. Green on the other hand has 18 months left on his contract and would command a fee, whether their fans like him or not. I really hope they have to pay for both :greengrin
Bostonhibby
10-01-2020, 09:53 AM
Good, that will mean they are pretty bad players, Thiam has 6 months contract left so he would probably let go for nothing or can sign a pre-contract. Green on the other hand has 18 months left on his contract and would command a fee, whether their fans like him or not. I really hope they have to pay for both :greengrinCould be promising.
Stendel obviously has contacts everywhere and they're obviously getting loads of benefits from their various expensive directors of whatever.
2 rejects and an untried kid all from Stendels previous clubs.
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MagicSwirlingShip
10-01-2020, 09:56 AM
See they are hanging their relegation battle goal scoring on the potential arrival of a 19 year old german who’s played under 25 league games. Most of which are in the German fourth tier.
This Stendel guys a hoot.
FilipinoHibs
10-01-2020, 10:09 AM
See they are hanging their relegation battle goal scoring on the potential arrival of a 19 year old german who’s played under 25 league games. Most of which are in the German fourth tier.
This Stendel guys a hoot.
Can't wait till the league starts again.
Green Badger
10-01-2020, 10:17 AM
Hearts biggest game of the 2010's decade was in February 2016 and they failed to stop Hibs winning the Cup, thereby losing their song book and any feel good factor
Springbank, are you for real? We would all swap 2016 for 2012, lets not kid ourselves. 2016 has gone a LONG way to erasing the pain, but a SC cup replay isn't close to being their biggest game of the 2010's.
I think they would no doubt point to 2012 as their highlight of the decade, however the game that has far and away had the biggest impact on them from the last decade was undoubtedly February 2016.
Oscar T Grouch
10-01-2020, 10:20 AM
Keena has left them for Hartlepool. Had 6 month left on his contract so doubt they got a fee for him. Still no players in. Has Herr Stendel discovered its not that easy to persuade footballers to come to Scotland and play for a team 5 points adrift at the foot of the table? So that 3 out confirmed and 0 in.
where'stheslope
10-01-2020, 10:34 AM
Keena has left them for Hartlepool. Had 6 month left on his contract so doubt they got a fee for him. Still no players in. Has Herr Stendel discovered its not that easy to persuade footballers to come to Scotland and play for a team 5 points adrift at the foot of the table? So that 3 out confirmed and 0 in.
Its all speculation, remember when we wanted Doige out before we got a new manager?
Its the same over there, the manager is culling players who don't fit in his plans, the ones he keeps will be playing the way he wants or they will be away as well!!
Some of their players given a fair chance, will step up to the mark, but not sure it will be enough to save them!!!!!
Northernhibee
10-01-2020, 10:39 AM
Keena has left them for Hartlepool. Had 6 month left on his contract so doubt they got a fee for him. Still no players in. Has Herr Stendel discovered its not that easy to persuade footballers to come to Scotland and play for a team 5 points adrift at the foot of the table? So that 3 out confirmed and 0 in.
This is where the challenge now lies for them. If they recruit well they'll finish the season well and will probably be 7th or 8th.
If they recruit the wrong players they're back to square 1, if they can't recruit them then they need to complete the season with a front line of MacLean, Ikpeazu and youngsters previously deemed only suitable to loan out to lower league clubs.
It's proper knife edge stuff that could go either way. Everything about what they're doing will see them either start next season in a strong position or finish this one with one of the worst points totals in recent years.
TrinityHibs
10-01-2020, 10:56 AM
Springbank, are you for real? We would all swap 2016 for 2012, lets not kid ourselves. 2016 has gone a LONG way to erasing the pain, but a SC cup replay isn't close to being their biggest game of the 2010's.
I would not swap 2016 for anything
SHODAN
10-01-2020, 11:00 AM
See they are hanging their relegation battle goal scoring on the potential arrival of a 19 year old german who’s played under 25 league games. Most of which are in the German fourth tier.
This Stendel guys a hoot.
Who?
portohibee
10-01-2020, 11:08 AM
They're gonna need a bigger bin
10 men couldnae carry..............................
It also led to the sacking of their most competent manager of the last 5 years.
Who is the only person to win anything for budge in her 6 years at the club (the championship). £££££ for zero success.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-invest-in-medical-department-in-response-to-injury-crisis-1-5072902
Levien still very much involved.
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5 years in and it seems she's only now realising the recruitment side of things, the medical side and the academy aren't good enough. She therefore gives Levein the job of sorting them. :faf:
Springbank
10-01-2020, 11:34 AM
Springbank, are you for real? We would all swap 2016 for 2012, lets not kid ourselves. 2016 has gone a LONG way to erasing the pain, but a SC cup replay isn't close to being their biggest game of the 2010's.
Absolutely for real.
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:
JeMeSouviens
10-01-2020, 11:51 AM
Absolutely for real.
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:
They were ****ed anyway whether they carried on spending in 2012 or not. Everyone knew it at the time which is why it was such blatant cheating. Oh well. :rolleyes:
Cataplana
10-01-2020, 11:56 AM
Absolutely for real.
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:
There is a strip on the wall of the Diggers, as a memorial to a Hearts fan that sadly died in 2012. The number on the back is 110. I doubt he was the only one that thought that way.
There is a strip on the wall of the Diggers, as a memorial to a Hearts fan that sadly died in 2012. The number on the back is 110. I doubt he was the only one that thought that way.
I used to work with an utter fud who had a 1902 tattoo interlaced with some lest we forget poppy pish.
Northernhibee
10-01-2020, 12:04 PM
Springbank, are you for real? We would all swap 2016 for 2012, lets not kid ourselves. 2016 has gone a LONG way to erasing the pain, but a SC cup replay isn't close to being their biggest game of the 2010's.
I have to disagree in this case, could you imagine us recalling the great team of Francomb, Doherty, Soares, Kujabi and O'Donovan?
We got a team worthy of the title of legends. That's what I want to remember.
Cataplana
10-01-2020, 12:04 PM
I used to work with an utter fud who had a 1902 tattoo interlaced with some lest we forget poppy pish.
That is one mixed up fellow.
McSwanky
10-01-2020, 12:06 PM
I used to work with an utter fud who had a 1902 tattoo interlaced with some lest we forget poppy pish.
Was he going for the 'Jambo stereotype of the year' award? Because he'd have to try a bit harder than that to get it.
JohnMcM
10-01-2020, 12:10 PM
I understand banter between supporters and I understand wanting your rivals to fail.
What I don't understand is the obsessive joy they appear to get from any of our failures or misgivings, then use them as a measure of their success, regardless of their own position in anything at that moment.
Weird stuff:rolleyes:
matty_f
10-01-2020, 12:15 PM
Absolutely for real.
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:
I think virtually every hearts fan would say that if they had the choice between winning in 2012 or not seeing us win in 2016, they'd all take winning in 2012.
I'd let them have it, I wouldn't change what happened for anything. For he, 2012 (and 2013) just made 2016 better.
When Gray's header hit the net, and the final whistle blew a few minutes later, every bit of hurt I've ever had as a Hibs fan was erased. I never, ever think of 2012 but I'm always thinking of 2016.
I would hazard a guess that most Hearts fans are the flip of that.
That's not to say that 2016 wasn't a massive blow to them, it was huge and I would go so far as to say it was a game changer in the balance of power in the city.
Since that day, they've had nothing on us. Their derby record is historically better but post 2012 I don't think it is and certainly not post 2016. Most of them have never seen them win the league cup, they regularly finish below us now, we have a bigger stadium and bigger crowds... but most of them would have accepted all of this to win in 2012.
SteveHFC
10-01-2020, 12:53 PM
When Gray's header hit the net, and the final whistle blew a few minutes later, every bit of hurt I've ever had as a Hibs fan was erased
😭 thought I had got past the crying stage every time I think about it
Sudds_1
10-01-2020, 01:13 PM
😭 thought I had got past the crying stage every time I think about it
🤩 me too....but 😪😪
SHODAN
10-01-2020, 01:26 PM
Absolutely for real.
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:
A major knock on effect from 2-2, 1-0 and the 2016 win is that it completely wiped out their derby confidence. The record since the cup win is now almost perfectly even:
Derbies: 13
Hearts wins: 4
Draws: 4
Hibs wins: 5
Hearts goals: 9
Hibs goals: 13
Previously even **** Hearts teams could compete better than us in head-to-head games, but the superiority/inferiority complex is gone now. We're (almost) evenly matched in resources and compete equally in games.
Oh - and we've won by two goals three times since then, and they haven't won any by that margin. "Comfortable" Hearts derby victories have become the exception for the first time in decades.
Bostonhibby
10-01-2020, 02:46 PM
Absolutely for real.
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:I'm with you, the 2012 win was tainted, events afterwards confirmed that for me.
The irony is we were that bad they might have won without stolen money and all the stigma that subsequently resulted, and they'll never know.
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Real Emerald
10-01-2020, 04:53 PM
One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. 😳 It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.😂😂😂😂
SMAXXA
10-01-2020, 05:00 PM
One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. 😳 It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 that’s brilliant, I honestly can’t believe the free reign he’s getting and he can’t do no wrong in the ****bos eyes genuinely baffled me those lot do
Sioux
10-01-2020, 05:10 PM
One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. 😳 It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.😂😂😂😂
It seems stendel is running about the place like a gunslinger wiping out whoever he doesn't like. Meanwhile the sheriff has left town. Seems this pillock is answerable to no one, whilst the townsfolk live in fear, and bow to his very existence. Wait until the sheriff returns and sometime in the (near) future she decides to pull him up about something, or refuses to sanction what he wants.
He's behaving like a big bully. Most big bullies aint worth a F when put to the test. They usually run away.
Since452
10-01-2020, 05:25 PM
They way they feel about Stendel is exactly how I felt about Fenlon. After the absolute wet blanket that was Calderwood it was great having someone who jumped about and waved their arms on the touchline, showed a bit of passion and was a great happy go lucky guy to boot. I willed him to succeed. Ultimately he was way out his depth. It will end in tears.
Real Emerald
10-01-2020, 05:45 PM
It’s also strange that with 3 weeks of the window left that Laugherty 😂 is not prepared to hold out a little while to get his dream move back to Hearts and settled with his second best dream move to Sunderland. How sad 😂
Not In The Know
10-01-2020, 05:52 PM
3 players he wanted to sign. They had a German lad in for a trial too but thats not going anywhere.
Ahh players, doh!
Not In The Know
10-01-2020, 05:57 PM
A major knock on effect from 2-2, 1-0 and the 2016 win is that it completely wiped out their derby confidence. The record since the cup win is now almost perfectly even:
Derbies: 13
Hearts wins: 4
Draws: 4
Hibs wins: 5
Hearts goals: 9
Hibs goals: 13
Previously even **** Hearts teams could compete better than us in head-to-head games, but the superiority/inferiority complex is gone now. We're (almost) evenly matched in resources and compete equally in games.
Oh - and we've won by two goals three times since then, and they haven't won any by that margin. "Comfortable" Hearts derby victories have become the exception for the first time in decades.
Good Stats, this time pretty much also coincides with the time Leanne has been here.
Joe6-2
10-01-2020, 06:17 PM
😂😂😂😂 that’s brilliant, I honestly can’t believe the free reign he’s getting and he can’t do no wrong in the ****bos eyes genuinely baffled me those lot do
Absolute panic and desperation
It’s also strange that with 3 weeks of the window left that Laugherty 😂 is not prepared to hold out a little while to get his dream move back to Hearts and settled with his second best dream move to Sunderland. How sad 😂
Surely not someone else who's turned them down. Thought he was desperate to go back to Hearts. Not looking good when even players that are desperate to join you then decide "Nah, on 2nd thoughts I'll not bother."
Iggy Pope
10-01-2020, 06:21 PM
There is a strip on the wall of the Diggers, as a memorial to a Hearts fan that sadly died in 2012. The number on the back is 110. I doubt he was the only one that thought that way.
What a way to be remembered. His family must be so proud.
CloudSquall
10-01-2020, 06:24 PM
A draw at home to Aberdeen who have a horrendous record at Tynecastle and an Instagram post wishing them Merry Christmas has somehow elevated Stendel to Legend status already, so much so they are bursting with pride at how they will still back him if they are relegated.
He's like the German Rasputin.
Since452
10-01-2020, 06:28 PM
😂😂😂😂 that’s brilliant, I honestly can’t believe the free reign he’s getting and he can’t do no wrong in the ****bos eyes genuinely baffled me those lot do
Wonder when the penny will drop with these thick, delusional Hearts fans. We'll leave aside the 16 winless games in a row as a manager for now. He's pinning his hopes on a 19 year old German fourth division player and two guys Barnsley fans are desperate to get rid of to claw back the gap to 11th but the maroon balloons are hanging off his every word. If it wasn't so funny I'd be really worried about their frame of mind
Real Emerald
10-01-2020, 06:30 PM
A draw at home to Aberdeen who have a horrendous record at Tynecastle and an Instagram post wishing them Merry Christmas has somehow elevated Stendel to Legend status already, so much so they are bursting with pride at how they will still back him if they are relegated.
He's like the German Rasputin.
He’ll be doing a parade around Edinburgh poking out the top of a Sherman tank taking the salute of hundreds and thousands if the manage a win against Airdrie. They are all Stendel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
NC1875
10-01-2020, 07:54 PM
Lafferty signs for Sunderland. Another one bites the dust!!
Jones28
10-01-2020, 08:09 PM
Lafferty signs for Sunderland. Another one bites the dust!!
Hahahahaha
CMurdoch
10-01-2020, 08:29 PM
Lafferty signs for Sunderland. Another one bites the dust!!
There was nothing to suggest Hearts were interested in signing Lafferty.
Was merely a wish of daft Hearts supporters including many on kickback which was encouraged by Lafferty and the media.
The latest - According to a Dundee paper Dundee FC will not be signing Craig Wighton back because Hearts want too much for him!
He isn't very good and they are desperate to get him of the wage bill but they want a fee, WTF!
Kickbackers have ignored this and are suggesting that the deal is off because of the wage demands of Wighton.
Suspect the truth is in the middle somewhere. Hearts wanting a tenner and a bag of balls and Dundee offering a fiver whilst Wighton only willing to move if he doesn't lose any money on the remaining 16 months of his contract.
04Sauzee
10-01-2020, 08:31 PM
There was nothing to suggest Hearts were interested in signing Lafferty.
Was merely a wish of daft Hearts supporters including many on kickback which was encouraged by Lafferty and the media.
The latest - According to a Dundee paper Dundee FC will not be signing Craig Wighton back because Hearts want too much for him!
He isn't very good and they are desperate to get him of the wage bill but they want a fee, WTF!
Kickbackers have ignored this and are suggesting that the deal is off because of the wage demands of Wighton.
Suspect the truth is in the middle somewhere. Hearts wanting a tenner and a bag of balls and Dundee offering a fiver whilst Wighton only willing to move if he doesn't lose any money on the remaining 16 months of his contract.
Sunderland were supposedly after Boyce and with Lafferty signing for Sunderland, Hearts fans think it's a stick on that means Boyce is signing for Hearts.
NC1875
10-01-2020, 08:34 PM
Sunderland were supposedly after Boyce and with Lafferty signing for Sunderland, Hearts fans think it's a stick on that means Boyce is signing for Hearts.
More likely Boyce will sign a pre contract with Sunderland and Lafferty is there as a stopgap meantime
SMAXXA
10-01-2020, 08:35 PM
More likely Boyce will sign a pre contract with Sunderland and Lafferty is there as a stopgap meantime
Or they get Boyce too and we get mcnulty 😂😂 that would be delightful to see their slant on that no doubt positive through the blind rage
Brightside
10-01-2020, 08:43 PM
There was nothing to suggest Hearts were interested in signing Lafferty.
Was merely a wish of daft Hearts supporters including many on kickback which was encouraged by Lafferty and the media.
The latest - According to a Dundee paper Dundee FC will not be signing Craig Wighton back because Hearts want too much for him!
He isn't very good and they are desperate to get him of the wage bill but they want a fee, WTF!
Kickbackers have ignored this and are suggesting that the deal is off because of the wage demands of Wighton.
Suspect the truth is in the middle somewhere. Hearts wanting a tenner and a bag of balls and Dundee offering a fiver whilst Wighton only willing to move if he doesn't lose any money on the remaining 16 months of his contract.
Hearts PR team put out the story they were after Lafferty. Banderson was all over it.
04Sauzee
10-01-2020, 08:43 PM
Or they get Boyce too and we get mcnulty 😂😂 that would be delightful to see their slant on that no doubt positive through the blind rage
That would amuse me 😅
CMurdoch
10-01-2020, 09:10 PM
Or they get Boyce too and we get mcnulty 😂😂 that would be delightful to see their slant on that no doubt positive through the blind rage
It's all possible.
Sunderland will be doing everything possible now in order to reach at least the play offs and they have ground to make up if that is to be the case.
K-Zazu
10-01-2020, 09:20 PM
They’ve agreed a fee with Wolfsburg for a striker apparently
Since452
10-01-2020, 09:24 PM
They’ve agreed a fee with Wolfsburg for a striker apparently
Aye but Wolfsburg decided they want to keep him to help their reserves get promoted from the 4th division.
True story
Del Boy
10-01-2020, 09:24 PM
Berra being linked with a move to Partick Thistle and Dundee interested in Wighton
mjhibby
10-01-2020, 11:36 PM
One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. 😳 It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.😂😂😂😂
I really can't get my head round this. All I get told by jambos is they won't be relegated and when I ask why not I get told we are the hearts. No logic,no rationale but that they are the jambos. I'm so glad I don't support them as they are beyond help. If they finish tenth they will celebrate like there is no tomorrow. They are definitely a weird bunch.
Baader
10-01-2020, 11:49 PM
One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.
Manager goes after owner? Good luck with that! The Stendel stuff is now veering into the realm of insanity. He's their only hope and their ever present delusions are increasing rapidly as desperation sets in.
I've read about Jerusalem syndrome. I think it's about time some serious study is given to Tynecastle syndrome...
Incidentally there is a condition recognised as Stendhal syndrome. But it involves individuals being psychologically overwhelmed by objects or phenomena of great beauty. So nae chance of that down Gorgie way then.
mjhibby
10-01-2020, 11:53 PM
One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. 😳 It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.😂😂😂😂
I really can't get my head round this. All I get told by jambos is they won't be relegated and when I ask why not I get told we are the hearts. No logic,no rationale but that they are the jambos. I'm so glad u don't support them as they are beyond help. If they finish tenth they will celebrate like there is no tomorrow. They are definitely a weird bunch.
FilipinoHibs
11-01-2020, 12:45 AM
I really can't get my head round this. All I get told by jambos is they won't be relegated and when I ask why not I get told we are the hearts. No logic,no rationale but that they are the jambos. I'm so glad u don't support them as they are beyond help. If they finish tenth they will celebrate like there is no tomorrow. They are definitely a weird bunch.
They are that part of Edinburgh that gets Edinburgh a bad name: stuck up, arrogant, boastful and full of themselves.
They’ve agreed a fee with Wolfsburg for a striker apparently
Strange imho. If they were after Boyce as some have mentioned over on broke back surely the money would have been better spent trying to get him in.
Wait no...... this will be the best young player in all of German football and they have beaten off Bayern, Dortmund and co to this talent....
If true I wonder what the fee is?
Did the yams not pay about £100k for Wigton? I very much doubt any team will pay anything for what can only be described as a woeful player.
Cataplana
11-01-2020, 08:08 AM
They are that part of Edinburgh that gets Edinburgh a bad name: stuck up, arrogant, boastful and full of themselves.
No, they are the forelock tuggers that allow that to happen. They know they are small people, but by sooking up to the big men, they can feel bigger than the people who don't get to the party at all.
Eyrie
11-01-2020, 09:24 AM
No, they are the forelock tuggers that allow that to happen. They know they are small people, but by sooking up to the big men, they can feel bigger than the people who don't get to the party at all.
Is that going to be known as Rosebery Syndrome?
04Sauzee
11-01-2020, 09:26 AM
Herrmann the German has been told he's going nowhere in this window.
That's Lafferty and Herrmann in the last 24hrs for our pink chums
The Spaceman
11-01-2020, 09:43 AM
Hearts need to spend, and they need to spend BIG.
Every signing they make needs to make the grade and be a substantial upgrade on what they have. Their signings also, ability aside, need to be the right characters (especially now that Berra, their only natural leader, is gone). Hearts are locked in a dogfight with Hamilton, St Johnstone and St Mirren - all of which are seasoned veteran relegation battle experts who know how to grind out results when it matters.
Even with good signings over the coming days (none in sight so far), Hearts next run of 5 fixtures comprises Ross County (A), Rangers (H), St Johnstone (A), Kilmarnock (H), Celtic (A). Anything less than 6 points from those 5 and I think they are in serious trouble as suspect they would be further adrift than 5 points. Following Celtic (A), they have a crunch home tie to Hamilton followed by an away tie to St Mirren, where confidence amongst new signings could be well and truly rock bottom by this point and I suspect the fans well and truly worried, anxious and angry.
It is not going to get any easier for Stendel by the looks of it. His first 5 games have been a disaster and the next 5 do not look any easier. All of this is being prepared amongst a squad where discontent will be growing by the minute.
Pleasing, as they would say.
Stanton Spence
11-01-2020, 10:52 AM
It seems that they have missed out on another one of their transfer targets and wolfsburg have told them that they ain't selling the young player they allegedly had a fee accepted for?? [emoji23]
they are in trouble alright
I also noticed over on KB that someone has mixed concrete or something similar on their auld crest that was preserved when they knocked the old stand down and its in a bit of a state. I don't know how to post photos or I would
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04Sauzee
11-01-2020, 10:53 AM
From the Daily Record
Hearts have been told they have no chance of signing Wolfsburg's Charles-Jesaja Herrmann in January.
Daniel Stendel is looking to strengthen his squad after taking over the Premiership's basement side.
They've targeted exciting 19-year-old prospect Herrmann, who plays for Wolfsburg II in the fourth tier of German football and are keen to bring him to the capital.
However, Wolfsburg sports director Pablo Thiam has made it clear they have no intention of selling Herrmann this transfer window because the club are in the midst of an injury crisis.
Hibs4185
11-01-2020, 10:55 AM
Hearts need to spend, and they need to spend BIG.
Every signing they make needs to make the grade and be a substantial upgrade on what they have. Their signings also, ability aside, need to be the right characters (especially now that Berra, their only natural leader, is gone). Hearts are locked in a dogfight with Hamilton, St Johnstone and St Mirren - all of which are seasoned veteran relegation battle experts who know how to grind out results when it matters.
Even with good signings over the coming days (none in sight so far), Hearts next run of 5 fixtures comprises Ross County (A), Rangers (H), St Johnstone (A), Kilmarnock (H), Celtic (A). Anything less than 6 points from those 5 and I think they are in serious trouble as suspect they would be further adrift than 5 points. Following Celtic (A), they have a crunch home tie to Hamilton followed by an away tie to St Mirren, where confidence amongst new signings could be well and truly rock bottom by this point and I suspect the fans well and truly worried, anxious and angry.
It is not going to get any easier for Stendel by the looks of it. His first 5 games have been a disaster and the next 5 do not look any easier. All of this is being prepared amongst a squad where discontent will be growing by the minute.
Pleasing, as they would say.
Aye but the messiah got a draw against the mighty Dons so they’ll be in the top six in no time
04Sauzee
11-01-2020, 11:01 AM
It seems that they have missed out on another one of their transfer targets and wolfsburg have told them that they ain't selling the young player they allegedly had a fee accepted for?? [emoji23]
they are in trouble alright
I also noticed over on KB that someone has mixed concrete or something similar on their auld crest that was preserved when they knocked the old stand down and its in a bit of a state. I don't know how to post photos or I would
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This?
Stanton Spence
11-01-2020, 11:04 AM
This?That's the one mate [emoji1] surely a bit sabotage going on and guaranteed JB construction will get the blame again [emoji42]
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Bostonhibby
11-01-2020, 11:11 AM
This?Jeez, can they get anything right?
They give out all the history and tradition nonsense but don't seem to be able to look after items like this.
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Stanton Spence
11-01-2020, 11:16 AM
From the Daily Record
Hearts have been told they have no chance of signing Wolfsburg's Charles-Jesaja Herrmann in January.
Daniel Stendel is looking to strengthen his squad after taking over the Premiership's basement side.
They've targeted exciting 19-year-old prospect Herrmann, who plays for Wolfsburg II in the fourth tier of German football and are keen to bring him to the capital.
However, Wolfsburg sports director Pablo Thiam has made it clear they have no intention of selling Herrmann this transfer window because the club are in the midst of an injury crisis.The deluded are now saying that wolfsburg are playing games and just trying to squeeze a few extra deutsche marks oot thum and fully expect the player to sign before the window shuts. They really are something else and deluded doesn't even come close really.
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Hibeesmad
11-01-2020, 11:29 AM
Vanecek article in the Evening News-
And on the news Levein had been replaced by new boss Daniel Stendel, he said: “Zdenek (Zlamal) called me and was very happy because the change was important."
So players were happy that Levein had got punted, little did they know that he would still be working with them on a daily basis.
GreenCastle
11-01-2020, 11:55 AM
Vanecek article in the Evening News-
And on the news Levein had been replaced by new boss Daniel Stendel, he said: “Zdenek (Zlamal) called me and was very happy because the change was important."
So players were happy that Levein had got punted, little did they know that he would still be working with them on a daily basis.
There must be some awkward corridor moments at Heriot Watt when Levein walks past the players and current manager.
Would be hilarious to see how a meeting went with Levein and Stendel went. Stendel picking up the pieces from the Levein and McPhee mess.
Gmack7
11-01-2020, 12:30 PM
i thought a fee had been agreed for the German wonderkid?
Barney McGrew
11-01-2020, 12:35 PM
That's Lafferty and Herrmann in the last 24hrs for our pink chums
You can guarantee whatever diddy they finally manage to lie to/blackmail enough to join them will be spun as their first choice.
Much like their *cough* first choice manager was.
hibbyfraelibby
11-01-2020, 01:01 PM
You can guarantee whatever diddy they finally manage to lie to/blackmail enough to join them will be spun as their first choice.
Much like their *cough* first choice manager was.
One for the mathematicians on here.
Does a 3rd choice striker by your 4th choice manager become your 12th best option or your 7th choice?
G B Young
11-01-2020, 01:14 PM
This?
?!! What the **** has happened there?
As for missing out on the German striker, does a 19-year-old from the German fourth division strike anyone as the type of player you'd want to be relying on to dig you out of a relegation crisis?
Hibby Kay-Yay
11-01-2020, 01:33 PM
Sportsound is an absolute hoot just now talking about Hearts :thumbsup:
Bostonhibby
11-01-2020, 01:37 PM
?!! What the **** has happened there?
As for missing out on the German striker, does a 19-year-old from the German fourth division strike anyone as the type of player you'd want to be relying on to dig you out of a relegation crisis?Maybe they'll unearth another Vanacek for our amusement. Stole him from right under the noses of absolutely no one at all, lasted about 5 minutes and turned out to be a basketball player.
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stoneyburn hibs
11-01-2020, 01:37 PM
Sportsound is an absolute hoot just now talking about Hearts :thumbsup:
Haha, it's fantastic listening.
Craig Levein calling other clubs to offer them Berra, just wow!
MurrayfieldHibs
11-01-2020, 01:38 PM
Haha, it's fantastic listening.
Craig Levein calling other clubs to offer them Berra, just wow!
This is great entertainment :greengrin
Real Emerald
11-01-2020, 01:51 PM
This is great entertainment :greengrin
What are they saying?
Keith_M
11-01-2020, 01:58 PM
They’ve agreed a fee with Wolfsburg for a striker apparently
The striker in question is a 19 year old called Herrmann, who is p1ssed off that he can't get a game for Wolfsburg Reserves in the Regionalliga Nord (a German Fourth Tier league).
He hasn't played a game for Wolfburg's first team but has played a few times for Germany's U-19s.
green day
11-01-2020, 02:02 PM
What are they saying?
It can just be packaged up as "cluster****".
Consensus seems to be that Budge hasnae got a scoobie, Levein is still deeply involved, Stendel sounds like a crap man manager.
Funniest bit was M Stewart claiming that Levein was punting Berra to other managers this week :greengrin:greengrin Jon Daly sounds like a spoon
Keith_M
11-01-2020, 02:05 PM
It can just be packaged up as "cluster****".
Consensus seems to be that Budge hasnae got a scoobie, Levein is still deeply involved, Stendel sounds like a crap man manager.
Funniest bit was M Stewart claiming that Levein was punting Berra to other managers this week :greengrin:greengrin Jon Daly sounds like a spoon
I get the feeling that Michael Stewart doesn't like Hearts.
green day
11-01-2020, 02:10 PM
I get the feeling that Michael Stewart doesn't like Hearts.
I think he is ambivalent to the team, doesnt like Levein.
Seems to be quite pro Hibs though I imagine if John Collins was our manager that would change https://www.hibs.net/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhDwAPANEAAP///729vVn/yAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEAAAAh/sFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnJ0bHNvZnQuY29tL2FuaW1hZ2ljLwoKQ3J lYXRlZCB3aXRoIEFuaW1hZ2ljIEdJRiBWIDEuMjEKYnkgUmlna HQgdG8gTGVmdCBTb2Z0d2FyZSBJbmMuCgpUbyBzdXBwcmVzcyB 0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4gdGhlIHJlZ2lzdGVyZWQgdmVyc2lvb gp1bmNoZWNrICJPcHRpb25zIHwgQW5pbWFnaWMgY29tbWVudCB mcmFtZSIKACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD2Zx5EC4WIjW nmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOYw9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhbbtSF3OB cplQpqrqlADC88Ju6M023G86nZRzD Uot2SiDUmAomsik4VA1CgAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhSD7RJYfh p1/koqrpVAwC8sOy6MxzP7Xb3rsOT5X7AFo7zAbUUGIqp08ioGgUA IfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYkM8WcfJ0nbtRK KoVeNpZcqqpBYADHAMqy9d166M41ko49F odTsAiqyJI1LZNJwrBoFACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD 2Zx5EC4WIjWnmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiQzxZx8nSdu1Eoqh V42llyqqkFgAMcAyrL13XrozjWSjj0X6h1OwCKrIkjUtk0nCsG gUAIfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYiNaeap4Ug 0SWH4adf5KKq6VQMAvLDsujMcz 12967Dk V wBaO8wG1FBiKqdPIqBoFADs=
Seems a decent guy though, I had a wee chat a while back in a coffee shop - was happy to talk football (and very keen to talk Hibs).
hibbyfraelibby
11-01-2020, 02:11 PM
Sportsound is an absolute hoot just now talking about Hearts :thumbsup:
Daly is an absolute nugget. Mickey Stewart pushing all his buttons and getting the expected bunker fever induced responses...especially over the number of signings. He also admitted the structure went out the window when Neilson was driven out. Wanted a square go when Mikey implied as fact that Cathro had no say on the signings. Very defensive snd cagey
Hibby Kay-Yay
11-01-2020, 02:12 PM
What are they saying?
Confirmed that Levein’s role is not just medical oversight as per recent media story. He is trying to get Berra to another club.
John Daly trying to defend Hearts, Levein and Budge but getting a rough time from M Stewart who sounds as though he’s loving what’s going on!
Stendel getting accused of not being man enough to deal with Berra face to face. Daly saying Berra should not have given that interview. M Stewart defending Berra for giving the interview. Stendel also getting questioned about his overall man management on getting rid of players before he brings in the ones he wants.
Keith_M
11-01-2020, 02:14 PM
I think he is ambivalent to the team, doesnt like Levein.
Seems to be quite pro Hibs though I imagine if John Collins was our manager that would change https://www.hibs.net/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhDwAPANEAAP///729vVn/yAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEAAAAh/sFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnJ0bHNvZnQuY29tL2FuaW1hZ2ljLwoKQ3J lYXRlZCB3aXRoIEFuaW1hZ2ljIEdJRiBWIDEuMjEKYnkgUmlna HQgdG8gTGVmdCBTb2Z0d2FyZSBJbmMuCgpUbyBzdXBwcmVzcyB 0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4gdGhlIHJlZ2lzdGVyZWQgdmVyc2lvb gp1bmNoZWNrICJPcHRpb25zIHwgQW5pbWFnaWMgY29tbWVudCB mcmFtZSIKACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD2Zx5EC4WIjW nmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOYw9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhbbtSF3OB cplQpqrqlADC88Ju6M023G86nZRzD Uot2SiDUmAomsik4VA1CgAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhSD7RJYfh p1/koqrpVAwC8sOy6MxzP7Xb3rsOT5X7AFo7zAbUUGIqp08ioGgUA IfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYkM8WcfJ0nbtRK KoVeNpZcqqpBYADHAMqy9d166M41ko49F odTsAiqyJI1LZNJwrBoFACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD 2Zx5EC4WIjWnmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiQzxZx8nSdu1Eoqh V42llyqqkFgAMcAyrL13XrozjWSjj0X6h1OwCKrIkjUtk0nCsG gUAIfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYiNaeap4Ug 0SWH4adf5KKq6VQMAvLDsujMcz 12967Dk V wBaO8wG1FBiKqdPIqBoFADs=
Seems a decent guy though, I had a wee chat a while back in a coffee shop - was happy to talk football (and very keen to talk Hibs).
I've actually met Stewart, and even had my photo taken with him for an article in the Evening News...
...which defo trumps meeting somebody in a coffee shop :wink:
green day
11-01-2020, 02:19 PM
I've actually met Stewart, and even had my photo taken with him for an article in the Evening News...
...which defo trumps meeting somebody in a coffee shop :wink:
:top marks ..........but my coffee was really nice:greengrin
Real Emerald
11-01-2020, 02:27 PM
Confirmed that Levein’s role is not just medical oversight as per recent media story. He is trying to get Berra to another club.
John Daly trying to defend Hearts, Levein and Budge but getting a rough time from M Stewart who sounds as though he’s loving what’s going on!
Stendel getting accused of not being man enough to deal with Berra face to face. Daly saying Berra should not have given that interview. M Stewart defending Berra for giving the interview. Stendel also getting questioned about his overall man management on getting rid of players before he brings in the ones he wants.
Sounds a hoot, long may it continue 👍😂
Moulin Yarns
11-01-2020, 02:31 PM
I've actually met Stewart, and even had my photo taken with him for an article in the Evening News...
...which defo trumps meeting somebody in a coffee shop :wink:
Does it beat discussing the merit of different muffins with Sir William Connolly in the Traverse Theatre bar? #askinforafriend
bingo70
11-01-2020, 02:39 PM
Liam Lindsay starting for Stoke again today, think that’s the third game in a row.
Got to think it’s unlikely he’ll be moving to Hearts now?
Smartie
11-01-2020, 02:49 PM
I’ve always liked listening to Michael Stewart talk about what’s going on at Hibs.
He’s never slow to put the boot in when we deserve it, he’s never slow to praise us when we deserve it.
There’s never an agenda, it’s normally insightful and accurate and generally interesting without the need to be sensationalist.
He grew up a Hearts fan and I’m sure he’ll be happy enough to praise them when they merit it. He does seem to be relishing the current shambles though - it gives him plenty to talk about.
Jim44
11-01-2020, 03:19 PM
I’ve just listened to a recording of Sportsound but they didn’t introduce the pundits. I recognised Michael Stewart and Jon Daly but who was the guy ‘Daryl’ and the anchor man? It was a good wee listen.
Billy Whizz
11-01-2020, 03:24 PM
I’ve just listened to a recording of Sportsound but they didn’t introduce the pundits. I recognised Michael Stewart and Jon Daly but who was the guy ‘Daryl’ and the anchor man? It was a good wee listen.
Daryl Broadfoot, Ex journalist and ex SFA communications Director
Think he’s helping SFA out for a bit just now
I’ve just listened to a recording of Sportsound but they didn’t introduce the pundits. I recognised Michael Stewart and Jon Daly but who was the guy ‘Daryl’ and the anchor man? It was a good wee listen.
Kenny Macintyre presenting the programme?
Haha, it's fantastic listening.
Craig Levein calling other clubs to offer them Berra, just wow!
Ha ha, wonder if he called Graeme Mathie.
Gmack7
11-01-2020, 03:39 PM
ST endal seems to have left a good side at Barnsley
stoneyburn hibs
11-01-2020, 03:42 PM
Kenny Macintyre presenting the programme?
Yes
Keith_M
11-01-2020, 03:52 PM
https://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/top marks.gif ..........but my coffee was really nicehttps://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/greengrin2.gif
Well that's at least some comfort
;-)
Does it beat discussing the merit of different muffins with Sir William Connolly in the Traverse Theatre bar? #askinforafriend
Probably not, no.
HFC93
11-01-2020, 03:58 PM
ST endal seems to have left a good side at Barnsley
The narrative when Stendel joined Hearts was he was hard done by at Barnsley after losing 10 games on the bounce. However, they appear to have picked up under the new manager.
bingo70
11-01-2020, 04:00 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/jon-daly-criticises-daniel-stendel-over-hearts-exit-1362370
Jon Daly saying the players weren’t understanding some of the training.
I’d be amazed if this ends well for Hearts.
04Sauzee
11-01-2020, 04:02 PM
Barnsley last 10 form. Looks even better for them laat 6
The Captain....
11-01-2020, 04:15 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/jon-daly-criticises-daniel-stendel-over-hearts-exit-1362370
Jon Daly saying the players weren’t understanding some of the training.
I’d be amazed if this ends well for Hearts.Predictably Kickback slating Daly..what they see in Stendel I've no idea. More and more he is coming across as a complete charlatan. I agree this is going to end in a shambolic early exit or relegation if they stick with him.
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bingo70
11-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Predictably Kickback slating Daly..what they see in Stendel I've no idea. More and more he is coming across as a complete charlatan. I agree this is going to end in a shambolic early exit or relegation if they stick with him.
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Tbf they’ve got to back him, they don’t have a choice.
They’ve basically got to shut their eyes, cross their fingers and cling onto any positives they can find.
Weegreenman
11-01-2020, 04:58 PM
I think he is ambivalent to the team, doesnt like Levein.
Seems to be quite pro Hibs though I imagine if John Collins was our manager that would change https://www.hibs.net/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhDwAPANEAAP///729vVn/yAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEAAAAh/sFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnJ0bHNvZnQuY29tL2FuaW1hZ2ljLwoKQ3J lYXRlZCB3aXRoIEFuaW1hZ2ljIEdJRiBWIDEuMjEKYnkgUmlna HQgdG8gTGVmdCBTb2Z0d2FyZSBJbmMuCgpUbyBzdXBwcmVzcyB 0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4gdGhlIHJlZ2lzdGVyZWQgdmVyc2lvb gp1bmNoZWNrICJPcHRpb25zIHwgQW5pbWFnaWMgY29tbWVudCB mcmFtZSIKACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD2Zx5EC4WIjW nmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOYw9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhbbtSF3OB cplQpqrqlADC88Ju6M023G86nZRzD Uot2SiDUmAomsik4VA1CgAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhSD7RJYfh p1/koqrpVAwC8sOy6MxzP7Xb3rsOT5X7AFo7zAbUUGIqp08ioGgUA IfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYkM8WcfJ0nbtRK KoVeNpZcqqpBYADHAMqy9d166M41ko49F odTsAiqyJI1LZNJwrBoFACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD 2Zx5EC4WIjWnmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiQzxZx8nSdu1Eoqh V42llyqqkFgAMcAyrL13XrozjWSjj0X6h1OwCKrIkjUtk0nCsG gUAIfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYiNaeap4Ug 0SWH4adf5KKq6VQMAvLDsujMcz 12967Dk V wBaO8wG1FBiKqdPIqBoFADs=
Seems a decent guy though, I had a wee chat a while back in a coffee shop - was happy to talk football (and very keen to talk Hibs).
I think he just tells it as it is tbh. Some people don’t like that, I have no problem with him or Thommo.
Since452
11-01-2020, 05:10 PM
ST endal seems to have left a good side at Barnsley
A side he couldn't get a tune out of
mutley
11-01-2020, 05:17 PM
I heard a funny comment from a Jambo this morning “aye, Berra still has 18 months on his contract....... he’ll be at hearts longer than Stendel will be”
And I thought to myself, yes, probably
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Gmack7
11-01-2020, 05:18 PM
A side he couldn't get a tune out of
he's no musician that's for sure
I heard a funny comment from a Jambo this morning “aye, Berra still has 18 months on his contract....... he’ll be at hearts longer than Stendel will be”
And I thought to myself, yes, probably
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Stendel could well be away before Levein. The latest manager getting booted out of the club before the previous one leaving might be a world's 1st. They'd love that, we all know how much they like to boast about a "biggest", a "best" or a "first".
wallpaperman
11-01-2020, 05:53 PM
Haha, it's fantastic listening.
Craig Levein calling other clubs to offer them Berra, just wow!
I think Dr Football will get about as good a reaction with his round of phone calls, as the people you get calling to say ‘I believe you were involved in an accident that wasn’t your fault’ receive when they interrupt my dinner. :greengrin
Since452
11-01-2020, 06:04 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5159191/derek-adams-hearts-morecambe/
Derek Adams rumour true then
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5159191/derek-adams-hearts-morecambe/
Derek Adams rumour true then
Too much integrity for the most enormous club in the universe it looks like
Bostonhibby
11-01-2020, 06:51 PM
Too much integrity for the most enormous club in the universe it looks likeMorecambe, or the famous big team with all the historical stigma, the sacked ex manager still hanging around like a bad smell and every other abysmal failure who he signed?
Morecambe it is, wherever they are and wherever they're heading.
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stoneyburn hibs
11-01-2020, 06:55 PM
I think Dr Football will get about as good a reaction with his round of phone calls, as the people you get calling to say ‘I believe you were involved in an accident that wasn’t your fault’ receive when they interrupt my dinner. :greengrin
Lol, the Tynecastle car crash 😁
EdinMike
11-01-2020, 07:38 PM
I heard a funny comment from a Jambo this morning “aye, Berra still has 18 months on his contract....... he’ll be at hearts longer than Stendel will be”
And I thought to myself, yes, probably
Are his fringe tickets on sale yet cause that was actually quite funny...
Bostonhibby
11-01-2020, 07:56 PM
Are his fringe tickets on sale yet cause that was actually quite funny...
[emoji23]
The warm up man will be the omnipresent Craig Levein, telling his adoring audience how he outlasted that awful Budge woman.
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Hibs4185
11-01-2020, 07:58 PM
Are his fringe tickets on sale yet cause that was actually quite funny...
Don’t give old budgey ideas or they’ll be the first club in the world to have the most professional biggest and best comedy show, hosted by.....Dr Football himself.
Part time sporting director, part time fringe producer. Worlds first.
ancient hibee
11-01-2020, 09:45 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5159191/derek-adams-hearts-morecambe/
Derek Adams rumour true then
Very wise to go to Morecambe.
04Sauzee
11-01-2020, 10:23 PM
Taken from the sun (apologies)
AUSTIN MacPHEE says Aaron Hickey reminds him of Jonny Evans — but thinks he can become Hearts’ answer to Sergio Busquets.
MacPhee believes the Jambos don’t have to worry about a ready-made replacement if John Souttar ever leaves.
Hearts starlet Aaron Hickey
KENNY RAMSAY - THE SUN GLASGOW
Hearts starlet Aaron Hickey
MacPhee worked closely with teenage left-back Hickey, 17, and Scotland stopper Souttar, 23, during his time as Tynecastle assistant and caretaker boss.
Souttar has been crocked for much of the season but once he’s fit again MacPhee is sure he’ll play at European football’s top table.
But MacPhee thinks that Hickey — himself a target for clubs like Manchester City — is already showing signs he can step into that central role.
MacPhee, who has moved to a behind-the-scenes role since Daniel Stendel became the new manager, said: “The remarkable thing about Arron is most young players are raved about because they come into a team doing really well.
Barcelona star Sergio Busquets in 2018
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Barcelona star Sergio Busquets in 2018
“That gives them confidence.
“Very rarely does a young player come into a team that isn’t over-performing and stay in. That’s because naturally you change things because the team isn’t winning.
“If I’d seen him being affected I’d have taken him out but I didn’t. He has incredible resilience for a young guy. He’s different in that respect.
“I don’t think he’s too affected by the outside world. There have been games where it hasn’t gone perfectly.
“In the first half against Rangers at Tynecastle they played on him and he made a couple of small mistakes.
“But second-half he was brilliant. I have seen that in a few games. That tells you a lot about his character — he’s seen it as a motivation, not a reason to shy away from the game.
“He’s so young he could play a lot of positions. He could end up being like Busquets.
“Right now he reminds me of Jonny Evans, who I’ve seen in training with Northern Ireland. It’s the way he defends, moves and always wants the ball as a defender.
Leicester City star Jonny Evans
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Leicester City star Jonny Evans
“Jonny spent some of his career at left-back, centre-back and defensive midfield.
“It will be interesting to see where Aaron ends up but he’s a young player I would hang my hat on. He’s tall enough to play at centre-back too.
“Look at Pep Guardiola — he made Fernandinho a centre-back at Man City, he made Joshua Kimmich, who’s 5ft 9, a centre-back at Bayern Munich and he made Javier Mascherano a centre-back at Barcelona.
“These teams play their football on the halfway line. Your responsibility as a centre-back is to deal with five counter-attacks and play passes.
“That’s why I think that if John Souttar was to leave Hearts Aaron could skip a couple of levels.”
SunSport revealed this week that Stendel has told skipper Christophe Berra he can find a new club.
Souttar is closing in on a comeback after the winter break but MacPhee thinks it won’t be long till he lands a move to a bigger league.
He said: “I think John has the capacity in the modern game to go right to the top because of what that player needs to do.
Hearts star John Souttar
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Hearts star John Souttar
“A lot of managers now look at the centre-back and their range of passing is the first thing they examine. John has a world-class range of passing.
“I can show evidence of that. If you go to the best teams, that’s your job.
“You have the ball 70 per cent of the time. When John returns a lot of clubs will be looking at that.
“It’s another reason I really hope Scotland get to the Euros because I think John could really show at the top European level what a good player he is.
“Aaron Hughes had a huge impact on the way he lives his life and John will be as good as he can be.
“People talk about Scottish players not going abroad but I can see John in another country. He’s that kind of profile of centre-back.
“Dundee United turned down a bid from Roma when John was 17 and I can see why an Italian club would be interested in him — or a top Spanish club.
“Sometimes I think the next shop you go into needs to have a shop window that lets people walking past see what you’re good at.
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“Young players in Scotland don’t necessarily need to go to the Championship or the bottom of the English Premier League.
“Look at Andy Robertson.
“You’re not telling me he’d be as effective if he were playing for Stoke, because they’re on the back foot, you’re dealing with diagonal balls and there are always two strikers who are 6ft 3.
“Robertson gets judged on breaking beyond the right-back and crossing first time, and he’s world class at that. That’s his job.
“That’s my point about John. What’s the job?
“To go and deal with Wigan’s centre-forwards on a wet day in Stoke? Or to stand on the halfway line for Guardiola and pick a pass because you’ve got five players on the front line.
“All these players are good at different things but sometimes they just need the chance.”
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Bostonhibby
11-01-2020, 10:36 PM
Taken from the sun (apologies)
AUSTIN MacPHEE says Aaron Hickey reminds him of Jonny Evans — but thinks he can become Hearts’ answer to Sergio Busquets.
MacPhee believes the Jambos don’t have to worry about a ready-made replacement if John Souttar ever leaves.
Hearts starlet Aaron Hickey
KENNY RAMSAY - THE SUN GLASGOW
Hearts starlet Aaron Hickey
MacPhee worked closely with teenage left-back Hickey, 17, and Scotland stopper Souttar, 23, during his time as Tynecastle assistant and caretaker boss.
Souttar has been crocked for much of the season but once he’s fit again MacPhee is sure he’ll play at European football’s top table.
But MacPhee thinks that Hickey — himself a target for clubs like Manchester City — is already showing signs he can step into that central role.
MacPhee, who has moved to a behind-the-scenes role since Daniel Stendel became the new manager, said: “The remarkable thing about Arron is most young players are raved about because they come into a team doing really well.
Barcelona star Sergio Busquets in 2018
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Barcelona star Sergio Busquets in 2018
“That gives them confidence.
“Very rarely does a young player come into a team that isn’t over-performing and stay in. That’s because naturally you change things because the team isn’t winning.
“If I’d seen him being affected I’d have taken him out but I didn’t. He has incredible resilience for a young guy. He’s different in that respect.
“I don’t think he’s too affected by the outside world. There have been games where it hasn’t gone perfectly.
“In the first half against Rangers at Tynecastle they played on him and he made a couple of small mistakes.
“But second-half he was brilliant. I have seen that in a few games. That tells you a lot about his character — he’s seen it as a motivation, not a reason to shy away from the game.
“He’s so young he could play a lot of positions. He could end up being like Busquets.
“Right now he reminds me of Jonny Evans, who I’ve seen in training with Northern Ireland. It’s the way he defends, moves and always wants the ball as a defender.
Leicester City star Jonny Evans
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Leicester City star Jonny Evans
“Jonny spent some of his career at left-back, centre-back and defensive midfield.
“It will be interesting to see where Aaron ends up but he’s a young player I would hang my hat on. He’s tall enough to play at centre-back too.
“Look at Pep Guardiola — he made Fernandinho a centre-back at Man City, he made Joshua Kimmich, who’s 5ft 9, a centre-back at Bayern Munich and he made Javier Mascherano a centre-back at Barcelona.
“These teams play their football on the halfway line. Your responsibility as a centre-back is to deal with five counter-attacks and play passes.
“That’s why I think that if John Souttar was to leave Hearts Aaron could skip a couple of levels.”
SunSport revealed this week that Stendel has told skipper Christophe Berra he can find a new club.
Souttar is closing in on a comeback after the winter break but MacPhee thinks it won’t be long till he lands a move to a bigger league.
He said: “I think John has the capacity in the modern game to go right to the top because of what that player needs to do.
Hearts star John Souttar
WILLIE VASS - THE SUN
Hearts star John Souttar
“A lot of managers now look at the centre-back and their range of passing is the first thing they examine. John has a world-class range of passing.
“I can show evidence of that. If you go to the best teams, that’s your job.
“You have the ball 70 per cent of the time. When John returns a lot of clubs will be looking at that.
“It’s another reason I really hope Scotland get to the Euros because I think John could really show at the top European level what a good player he is.
“Aaron Hughes had a huge impact on the way he lives his life and John will be as good as he can be.
“People talk about Scottish players not going abroad but I can see John in another country. He’s that kind of profile of centre-back.
“Dundee United turned down a bid from Roma when John was 17 and I can see why an Italian club would be interested in him — or a top Spanish club.
“Sometimes I think the next shop you go into needs to have a shop window that lets people walking past see what you’re good at.
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“Young players in Scotland don’t necessarily need to go to the Championship or the bottom of the English Premier League.
“Look at Andy Robertson.
“You’re not telling me he’d be as effective if he were playing for Stoke, because they’re on the back foot, you’re dealing with diagonal balls and there are always two strikers who are 6ft 3.
“Robertson gets judged on breaking beyond the right-back and crossing first time, and he’s world class at that. That’s his job.
“That’s my point about John. What’s the job?
“To go and deal with Wigan’s centre-forwards on a wet day in Stoke? Or to stand on the halfway line for Guardiola and pick a pass because you’ve got five players on the front line.
“All these players are good at different things but sometimes they just need the chance.”
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Watch Liverpool captain, Jordan Henderson, practise with young fan before match away at TottenhamAnd we're all enjoying reflecting on the fruits of McPhees knowledge and efforts down Gorgie way.
He's got time to sit back and spout guff like this that even the average Duncan has a chance of seeing through, as he's at home all day in his Budge tartan dressing gown and Gary Mackay slippers from the club shop playing blow football over the internet with his fellow sporting director(s).
Next week - why Harry Cochrane is the new Messi.
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jacomo
11-01-2020, 11:04 PM
And we're all enjoying reflecting on the fruits of McPhees knowledge and efforts down Gorgie way.
He's got time to sit back and spout guff like this that even the average Duncan has a chance of seeing through, as he's at home all day in his Budge tartan dressing gown and Gary Mackay slippers from the club shop playing blow football over the internet with his fellow sporting director(s).
Next week - why Harry Cochrane is the new Messi.
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Levein did this a lot. Big up a development player and map their career for them.
McPhee has lost the plot imo. Just what does he do at home all day?
K-Zazu
11-01-2020, 11:08 PM
Austin McPhee 😂😂😂😂. What has he done in football? If I was a hearts fan I would want him punted.
#2 Double Tap
11-01-2020, 11:14 PM
Austin McPhee 😂😂😂😂. What has he done in football? If I was a hearts fan I would want him punted.
but he speaks japanese
Not In The Know
11-01-2020, 11:18 PM
And we're all enjoying reflecting on the fruits of McPhees knowledge and efforts down Gorgie way.
He's got time to sit back and spout guff like this that even the average Duncan has a chance of seeing through, as he's at home all day in his Budge tartan dressing gown and Gary Mackay slippers from the club shop playing blow football over the internet with his fellow sporting director(s).
Next week - why Harry Cochrane is the new Messi.
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So basically the team five points adrift at the bottom of the league have defenders good enough for Liverpool and Bayern 😂
CMurdoch
11-01-2020, 11:28 PM
Levein did this a lot. Big up a development player and map their career for them.
McPhee has lost the plot imo. Just what does he do at home all day?
Think these are old articles which the red tops have dusted down, rewritten and put out as new.
The more gullible of the Duncans were getting very annoyed about them on JKB thinking McPhee was being allowed to speak to the press.
In other Hearts news. Burton manager Nigel Clough stated after Saturday's match that Burton had turned down a bid for Liam Boyce which I suspect will be Hearts bid. They are desperate for a goalscoring striker so may be wlling to pay well over the odds for Boyce. It would be a big blow if they can't get him as I think he would be a good bet to fit in and score goals.
Jack Ross should get in there and make Boyce a pre contract offer. Could do a lot worse and would be a good start to our summer recruitment. Boyce, Doidge, Kamberi & Shaw as a strike force has a good balanced look to it. Only downside to Boyce is that he looks like a garden gnome
Ozyhibby
12-01-2020, 06:41 AM
Think these are old articles which the red tops have dusted down, rewritten and put out as new.
The more gullible of the Duncans were getting very annoyed about them on JKB thinking McPhee was being allowed to speak to the press.
In other Hearts news. Burton manager Nigel Clough stated after Saturday's match that Burton had turned down a bid for Liam Boyce which I suspect will be Hearts bid. They are desperate for a goalscoring striker so may be wlling to pay well over the odds for Boyce. It would be a big blow if they can't get him as I think he would be a good bet to fit in and score goals.
Jack Ross should get in there and make Boyce a pre contract offer. Could do a lot worse and would be a good start to our summer recruitment. Boyce, Doidge, Kamberi & Shaw as a strike force has a good balanced look to it. Only downside to Boyce is that he looks like a garden gnome
I think it was Sunderland that bid for Boyce.
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Austin McPhee 😂😂😂😂. What has he done in football? If I was a hearts fan I would want him punted.
He’s hearts official laptop carrier i think.
Northernhibee
12-01-2020, 07:52 AM
In terms of being a Hibs fan, this is a vintage Hearts season. From laying a £1m hybrid pitch and ruining it before the season has even begun with a concert, to “Craig’s sacked lol jk he’s now in the medical department for some reason” to “Hello friends and friends, Here’s your Daniel” to Berra and Whelan sounding off, or the greatest draw in history, there has been so much to enjoy.
Keep it up Jambos.
Just looking at Stendels stats, 1 season in charge at Hanover 96, sacked after a run of bad games and the new guy goes on a winning run to take them to 7th in Bundislèga 2, same happened at Barnsley and no wins in 5 at Hearts.
Tell me what everyone sees in this guy, is it just cause he's German.
Irish-Hibee
12-01-2020, 08:14 AM
The funny thing about all this is the Jambos are so obsessed with making Stendel work that they back and defend every decision he makes.
He is clearly a prick with his treatment of every player. How many people have come out an criticized him already. Surely there's going to be players still there who think the same. It's not going to work out but they'll be too proud to accept it until it's too late.
I saw a comment from one of them that said "Stendel will be the greatest Hearts manager of the last 10 years"...He's still to win a game!! Together with his time at Barnsley he hasn't won in his last 16 games!:confused:
Hibbyradge
12-01-2020, 08:24 AM
So basically the team five points adrift at the bottom of the league have defenders good enough for Liverpool and Bayern 😂
"But MacPhee thinks that Hickey — himself a target for clubs like Manchester City"
What does that even mean?
Teams that play in light blue? :dunno:
Since452
12-01-2020, 08:33 AM
In terms of being a Hibs fan, this is a vintage Hearts season. From laying a £1m hybrid pitch and ruining it before the season has even begun with a concert, to “Craig’s sacked lol jk he’s now in the medical department for some reason” to “Hello friends and friends, Here’s your Daniel” to Berra and Whelan sounding off, or the greatest draw in history, there has been so much to enjoy.
Keep it up Jambos.
And it's all being immortalised in a documentary. Happy days.
Bostonhibby
12-01-2020, 09:45 AM
Levein did this a lot. Big up a development player and map their career for them.
McPhee has lost the plot imo. Just what does he do at home all day?They're still paying him so there must be big team type things that he can do whilst watching CBBC in his smoking jacket and slippers, before using the very latest fax machine to send his coaching tips and signing targets over to Levein when his shift starts and the Barnsley Barnstormer when the Diggers closes.
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Keith_M
12-01-2020, 09:47 AM
Just looking at Stendels stats, 1 season in charge at Hanover 96, sacked after a run of bad games and the new guy goes on a winning run to take them to 7th in Bundislèga 2, same happened at Barnsley and no wins in 5 at Hearts.
Tell me what everyone sees in this guy, is it just cause he's German.
Barnsley have replaced him with an Austrian, so German names seem to be the in thing.
Eyrie
12-01-2020, 09:51 AM
"But MacPhee thinks that Hickey — himself a target for clubs like Manchester City"
What does that even mean?
Teams that play in light blue? :dunno:
Basically a youngster has a few good games and gets hyped. Other clubs note the name and watch some footage of the player in action before deciding not to take their interest to the next stage of sending a scout.
The media then report that as the youngster being a target.
bingo70
12-01-2020, 10:37 AM
Just looking at Stendels stats, 1 season in charge at Hanover 96, sacked after a run of bad games and the new guy goes on a winning run to take them to 7th in Bundislèga 2, same happened at Barnsley and no wins in 5 at Hearts.
Tell me what everyone sees in this guy, is it just cause he's German.
Sounds like you never saw the Hearts glorious draw against Aberdeen.
FilipinoHibs
12-01-2020, 10:46 AM
Sounds like you never saw the Hearts glorious draw against Aberdeen.
Magnificent. There are still people at the Piazza clapping.
Keith_M
12-01-2020, 10:51 AM
Sounds like you never saw the Hearts glorious draw against Aberdeen.
Do you mean the Ruhmreichestorschießenunentschieden perhaps?
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