The generic Hearts thread

[munchar]

Yep Agent Ann has almost completed her mission. Final task now is to take them down to the Championship.
She’ll get a hero’s welcome at Easter Road!

I’m not sure if your joking! 😂
Her Hibby brothers definitely doing a good job of taking the FOH payments every month for building the stand! 👌
Hope he can take the stadium when they go into admin.

[Irish_Steve]

Some just has to type - "But what else could Ann do" and the place just explodes - it`s hilarious

[HibbySpurs]

Some just has to type - "But what else could QUEEN Ann do" and the place just explodes - it`s hilarious

Fixed that for you, remember your p’s & Q’s in future please 😂

[Irish_Steve]

*tugs forelock in appreciation - actually, that sounded way better in my head lol

[Waxy]

Hes the guy who posted this before they played St Mirren.

Zero shame. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200413/17ea9fcf4a81639b1d44b40b80224681.jpg

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Bet Budge felt the same as this jambo.

[The 90+2]

Bet Budge felt the same as this jambo.

It’s what they got the benefactors in again for.

Weren’t quite there = bawsed up when it mattered against St Mirren in the biggest grudge match ever having fluked a draw against Hamilton who wrongly went down to ten at home.

[Dashing Bob S]

Can someone enlighten me how she’s doing a good job? A stand that’s not finished, more than double the budget, FOH money that’s been wasted, & relying only benefactors to keep them afloat, and also the worst team in the league. A club with no bank debt and their fan base should be sitting comfortably in the top six, investing in young quality players instead of throwing big money at decent but not top class ones. She’s let Levein away with murder, & he’s still on the payroll.

You’ve already perfectly adequately explained

[HibbyDave]

New code name “QAB” Queen Anne Budge.



QAB.....If you really, really, really have to finally send out share certs you absolutely must post them at The rate for full price postage for a super large package.

Remember to clearly mark the envelope: Top Secret- Burn before opening.
This should add to the level of general confusion that persists over in PBS land.
Also, accidentally forget to include certs.

The day after you post the envelopes send a further memo to all alleged shareholders. The general comment should be that due to a clerical error CL will be remaining on the clubs wage bill as his contract has been renewed with a new four year deal on improved terms as opposed terminated.

More instruction to follow.... keep collecting the donations and get the super stand extension fee/ finishing fee agreed with your brother ASAP

[AltheHibby]

I take it the 007 is his IQ

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Posted 1 hour ago
1 hour ago, jambopilms said:
Why does it matter it's all paid for, mostly by benefactors who have done coughed up because of Budge. most clubs are crippled for years paying back debt for a new stand/ stadium. We have a stand better than we can't afford for no debt.





Unless your Hibs who ripped off the bank..oops sorry ..meant come to an arrangement..then let the tax payer put millions towards it

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[Bostonhibby]

I take it the 007 is his IQ

Hearts007 Hearts007
Posted 1 hour ago
1 hour ago, jambopilms said:
Why does it matter it's all paid for, mostly by benefactors who have done coughed up because of Budge. most clubs are crippled for years paying back debt for a new stand/ stadium. We have a stand better than we can't afford for no debt.





Unless your Hibs who ripped off the bank..oops sorry ..meant come to an arrangement..then let the tax payer put millions towards it

QuoteJust the four banks made it onto Hearts very own creditors list of shame.

Mind you 2 of them got bumped for £22m.

Hibs did a commercial deal with our bank to actually give them money as the banks were keen to exit football as a risk due to their experiences with the likes of Hearts.

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[FilipinoHibs]

Just the four banks made it onto Hearts very own creditors list of shame.

Mind you 2 of them got bumped for £22m.

Hibs did a commercial deal with our bank to actually give them money as the banks were keen to exit football as a risk due to their experiences with the likes of Hearts.

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We paid the bank back in full. Farmer provided a £9.5 million loan to Hibs which went directly to the bank. This covered the principal of the loan plus the present value of future interest payments. Farmer turned £4.5 million of the loan into shares and the other £5 million into an interest free mortgage. Ron bought the shares and the outstanding mortgage which he turned into new shares.

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5060

Bear in mind to, that Romanov wrote off/converted to shares £40 million of debt, not part of Hearts' final £30 million debt. These were loans from Ukio Bankas to UBIG, Romanov's investment vehicle, then on to Hearts. Romanov never paid the loans made to UBIG back to Ukio Bankas. This was part of the €300 million hole in Ukio Bankas's balance sheet that led to its' bankruptcy.

[Bostonhibby]

We paid the bank back in full. Farmer provided a £9.5 million loan to Hibs which went directly to the bank. This covered the principal of the loan plus the present value of future interest payments. Farmer turned £4.5 million of the loan into shares and the other £5 million into an interest free mortgage. Ron bought the shares and the outstanding mortgage which he turned into new shares.

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5060

Bear in mind to, that Romanov wrote off/converted to shares £40 million of debt, not part of Hearts' final £30 million debt. These were loans from Ukio Bankas to UBIG, Romanov's investment vehicle, then on to Hearts. Romanov never paid the loans made to UBIG back to Ukio Bankas. This was part of the €300 million hole in Ukio Bankas's balance sheet that led to its' bankruptcy.I believe you are right on both counts[emoji106]

Whatever the actual numbers no one can argue Hibs never paid their way with a deal that was an astute business decision that acceptable to both sides. A million miles removed from the way Hearts built up the major debts here then avoided paying their creditors.

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[bigwheel]

We paid the bank back in full. Farmer provided a £9.5 million loan to Hibs which went directly to the bank. This covered the principal of the loan plus the present value of future interest payments. Farmer turned £4.5 million of the loan into shares and the other £5 million into an interest free mortgage. Ron bought the shares and the outstanding mortgage which he turned into new shares.

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5060

Bear in mind to, that Romanov wrote off/converted to shares £40 million of debt, not part of Hearts' final £30 million debt. These were loans from Ukio Bankas to UBIG, Romanov's investment vehicle, then on to Hearts. Romanov never paid the loans made to UBIG back to Ukio Bankas. This was part of the €300 million hole in Ukio Bankas's balance sheet that led to its' bankruptcy.


we did pay in "full"... it was a renegotiated deal that the bank agreed to - which got us better terms and paid up any debt we had....

[Green Badger]

I take it the 007 is his IQ

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Posted 1 hour ago
1 hour ago, jambopilms said:
Why does it matter it's all paid for, mostly by benefactors who have done coughed up because of Budge. most clubs are crippled for years paying back debt for a new stand/ stadium. We have a stand better than we can't afford for no debt.

Unless your Hibs who ripped off the bank..oops sorry ..meant come to an arrangement..then let the tax payer put millions towards it

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I think an IQ of 7 is being generous.

[greenginger]

Other unpaid “ debts “ of our Gorgie chums.

when Vlad took over Hearts were in hock to B of S for about £ 18 m. He transferred the debt to Ukio with a reduction of about £ 2 m.

Also, there was the £ 5/6 m convertible loan from Scottish Media Group which the lender decided not to convert . They eventually had to accept a fraction of their loan in repayment.

[jacomo]

Absolutely love it when those thickos try and criticise Hibs for supposed financial improprieties. Just reminds us all what two-faced cheats they are.

Some people say ‘Yam’ is not an appropriate nickname. They might be right. Your average root vegetable is a lot smarter.

[bringbackbenny]

Keep digging, another 3 points in the statement league from Queen Ann.


We would like to clarify our position on a comment made by Ann Budge during a broadcast interview that has, by some, been taken out of context.

“You shouldn't be awarded a title if you haven't played 38 games; you shouldn't be relegated if you haven't played 38 games, and all sorts of other things in between. Some rules were changed, others weren't."

Ann was speaking in reference to the SPFL rules, with the broader point being that it is unfair to change some rules and not others, and not expressing an opinion on whether or not clubs such as Dundee Utd, and Celtic if the Premiership is called, will be deserving winners of their titles, which some articles suggest.

The Club's position has always been one of “promotions but no relegations” on the grounds that there should be no losers in this situation if the season cannot be finished.

[Bostonhibby]

Absolutely love it when those thickos try and criticise Hibs for supposed financial improprieties. Just reminds us all what two-faced cheats they are.

Some people say ‘Yam’ is not an appropriate nickname. They might be right. Your average root vegetable is a lot smarter.And a lot more attractive

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[FilipinoHibs]

we did pay in "full"... it was a renegotiated deal that the bank agreed to - which got us better terms and paid up any debt we had....

Prior to bank deal we owed bank £6,2 million and holding company £3 million. Farmer paid off bank debt plus interest with loan to Hibs - £6,5 million. We owed holding company £9.5 (6,5 + 3)million now. Holding company converted £4.5 million of loans into shares. Remaining £5 million turned into a interest free mortgage repaid at £500,000 a year. There was no write off of the bank debt. Farmer took a hit converting £4.5 million of holding company's loan to shares.

[Hibs4185]

Prior to bank deal we owed bank £6,2 million and holding company £3 million. Farmer paid off bank debt plus interest with loan to Hibs - £6,5 million. We owed holding company £9.5 (6,5 + 3)million now. Holding company converted £4.5 million of loans into shares. Remaining £5 million turned into a interest free mortgage repaid at £500,000 a year. There was no write off of the bank debt. Farmer took a hit converting £4.5 million of holding company's loan to shares.

I am 99.9% sure the bank debt was £6.2 million which we both agree on. I am sure STF made a deal and paid £4.8 million back, which was then repaid at £40k a month for 10 years.

I think the holding company debt was converted to shares. Def had a deal from the bank but I deal in the commercial world daily and several banks were doing deals to get out of certain sectors. It’s a perfect solution to both parties especially if there is a will on both sides.

[greenginger]

I
I am 99.9% sure the bank debt was £6.2 million which we both agree on. I am sure STF made a deal and paid £4.8 million back, which was then repaid at £400k a month for 10 years.

I think the holding company debt was converted to shares. Def had a deal from the bank but I deal in the commercial world daily and several banks were doing deals to get out of certain sectors. It’s a perfect solution to both parties especially if there is a will on both sides.


£ 400 k a month for 10 years !! That’s almost as good as Budges deal with FoH. :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

I am 99.9% sure the bank debt was £6.2 million which we both agree on. I am sure STF made a deal and paid £4.8 million back, which was then repaid at £400k a month for 10 years.

I think the holding company debt was converted to shares. Def had a deal from the bank but I deal in the commercial world daily and several banks were doing deals to get out of certain sectors. It’s a perfect solution to both parties especially if there is a will on both sides.

So we paid £48m over the 10 years 😳

[AltheHibby]

I think an IQ of 7 is being generous.

Okay. Maybe it's the number of teeth he has.

[Rumble de Thump]

Keep digging, another 3 points in the statement league from Queen Ann.

They keep talking about "no losers in this situation, "no punishment", "no penalties" etc. Have they explained why they think Hearts should benefit from this situation?

[Hibs4185]

I


£ 400 k a month for 10 years !! That’s almost as good as Budges deal with FoH. :greengrin

Haha I meant £40k a month. Sitting typing with stupid gloves on 🧤

[Sudds_1]

Okay. Maybe it's the number of teeth he has.

Or the age of his sister/ wife

[Sudds_1]

She is Scotland's Trump in every way.

Hmm....same hair colour 🤔🤔

[Sudds_1]

Put her on the world stage, God for bid, and I think we see her full potential.

God, what an image...seeing her full potential 🤮🤮🤮

[Tully]

Who gives a monkey's about how it was paid back,the long and the short is that the deals been done , the puddle drinkers will never understand no matter what or how it was paid back,they are just all spewing that there so called big club is again up ****creek and trying to find a way to wriggle out of relegation, make no mistake if it was any other club at the bottom they wouldn't give a second thought to league reconstruction, let's Just sit back and see what happens

[whiskyhibby]

Budge is beginning to sound more and more like Romanov after each embarrassing interview ��

[Bostonhibby]

Who gives a monkey's about how it was paid back,the long and the short is that the deals been done , the puddle drinkers will never understand no matter what or how it was paid back,they are just all spewing that there so called big club is again up ****creek and trying to find a way to wriggle out of relegation, make no mistake if it was any other club at the bottom they wouldn't give a second thought to league reconstruction, let's Just sit back and see what happensYep, they were lost the minute the concept of paying back arose!

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[jacomo]

They keep talking about "no losers in this situation, "no punishment", "no penalties" etc. Have they explained why they think Hearts should benefit from this situation?


Yes, do keep up. :wink:

Budge explained that Hearts spent a lot of money this season to try and avoid the drop. The fact that they were 4 points adrift in 12th place when th season was suspended is apparently immaterial... I think the logic is that, as a big and famous club, Hearts should not be ‘punished’ by relegation.

[calumhibee1]

Yes, do keep up. :wink:

Budge explained that Hearts spent a lot of money this season to try and avoid the drop. The fact that they were 4 points adrift in 12th place when th season was suspended is apparently immaterial... I think the logic is that, as a big and famous club, Hearts should not be ‘punished’ by relegation.

I can’t believe she doesn’t realise how stupid that logic sounds to everybody that isn’t a hearts fan.

“We tried to buy our way out of trouble by spending money we don’t have and still managed to make an absolute arse of it over an 18 month period where we were the worst team in the league. As such, we should be REWARDED for our quite incredible failings.”

[Bostonhibby]

They keep talking about "no losers in this situation, "no punishment", "no penalties" etc. Have they explained why they think Hearts should benefit from this situation?They're right to demand all these things, nothing out of the ordinary should apply, season's ended slightly early through no one's fault so let's just do what has been done for many decades.

You don't even need to set up any wee groups to shoot the breeze about how tough things are for Hearts.

Award the top team the title and relegate the bottom team, they're certainly there on merit this season. Sporting integrity.

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[ekhibee]

Has anybody seen the Q and A on the BBC Scotland website? The Q and A between Budge and Tom English I meant. I don't know if it really qualifies as a question and answer session, he seems to agree with virtually everything she says. I know this might be controversial but I've got more respect for her than I do for him. She said she'd seen no evidence of bullying. English has turned into a really loathsome creature, he gets free coverage to air his biased views and gets no comeback.

[G B Young]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52338285

If you can be bothered wading through it all, English doesn't half let her off easy here.

She 'genuinely can't remember' which club got a loan despite being one of those who approved it?! You'd assume a journalist would respond that it's hard to take such a claim seriously without corroboration and would ask the SPFL to confirm or deny this. Yet he just accepts it as fact. Imagine Doncaster getting asked such a question and responding with 'Um, I can't actually remember'. He be rightly laughed at - or his senility called into question.

Also, her claim that 'other clubs have likened an internal review to marking their own homework'. 'Other clubs' have not said this, just Steven Gerrard.

And I don't even understand that stuff about the 'Sorry Ann' message...

English is clearly Budge's 'preferred choice' of journo due to his largely sycophantic behaviour towards her. He portrays her as some sort of 'Grande Dame' of Scottish football and just airbrushes over her many mistakes and non-sensical utterances.

Jeez, can you imagine any other club reading through that interview and thinking 'yep, she's convinced me she has a great case for reconstruction'?! There's nothing, nothing at all, within what she says that qualifies as a valid argument for that. She doesn't want Hearts relegated, that's all the bluster amounts to.

[munchar]

Does he ask her if it’s unfair for clubs to go down, is it unfair for clubs not to come up? Would she be as vocal if Hearts weren’t bottom? Would she be lobbying for reconstruction? Does she agree they’re the worst team in the league by a distance? Have you been spending money on contracts you can’t afford? Etc,etc..
No he won’t, but that should be getting asked as a journalist!!

[Rumble de Thump]

Has anybody seen the Q and A on the BBC Scotland website? The Q and A between Budge and Tom English I meant. I don't know if it really qualifies as a question and answer session, he seems to agree with virtually everything she says. I know this might be controversial but I've got more respect for her than I do for him. She said she'd seen no evidence of bullying. English has turned into a really loathsome creature, he gets free coverage to air his biased views and gets no comeback.

He's a very poor interviewer.

[greenpaper55]

Just as a wee aside, i wonder if many of the Hearts players have a clause in their contracts which means they are able to leave if the club was relegated. This might benefit Hearts as they will have to live within their means next season Ha ! but they might struggle to put a competitive team on the field, shame.

[CapitalGreen]

Has anybody seen the Q and A on the BBC Scotland website? The Q and A between Budge and Tom English I meant. I don't know if it really qualifies as a question and answer session, he seems to agree with virtually everything she says. I know this might be controversial but I've got more respect for her than I do for him. She said she'd seen no evidence of bullying. English has turned into a really loathsome creature, he gets free coverage to air his biased views and gets no comeback.

Tom English seems to get a free pass for any s*** he comes out with because he once called out the old firm for sectarianism.

[G B Young]

Tom English seems to get a free pass for any s*** he comes out with because he once called out the old firm for sectarianism.

I didn't used to mind the guy until a couple of years ago when his yam sympathies started to become clear.

[The Captain....]

Tom English seems to get a free pass for any s*** he comes out with because he once called out the old firm for sectarianism.He seems to trumpet anything Budge says without the merest scrutiny or critical thinking. I find his football analysis very superficial.

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[AltheHibby]

Well, some ads are clearly a waste of money. Like this one I just saw on Kickback.23204

[Dashing Bob S]

We should play the Scottish cup games.,

[Jack]

We should play the Scottish cup games.,

If we can play them this year in front of a crowd I'd agree.

Might reconsider the use of Murrayfield to cut down travel.

[Carheenlea]

I didn't used to mind the guy until a couple of years ago when his yam sympathies started to become clear.

I think most quite welcomed Tom English when he appeared on the scene at Sportsound as he was a different voice to some of the tired old faces, but for me it was when he started to do more of the rugby on the BBC it became clear that he genuinely was a real aficionado of the sport and a very knowledgeable commentator, but when you then contrasted that with the depth of his football analysis it feel way short of the quality that he can offer on rugby union.

[Jim44]

Correct me if I’m wrong but Budge insists they spent big to avoid relegation. I suspect they spent big to buy success. It all depends on the way you spin it. Same result, alas, ............ gross failure. :rolleyes:

[FilipinoHibs]

I think most quite welcomed Tom English when he appeared on the scene at Sportsound as he was a different voice to some of the tired old faces, but for me it was when he started to do more of the rugby on the BBC it became clear that he genuinely was a real aficionado of the sport and a very knowledgeable commentator, but when you then contrasted that with the depth of his football analysis it feel way short of the quality that he can offer on rugby union.

Other rugby buffs on here, me included, i am from Hawick, think he is clueless on the rugby as well.

[Waxy]

Does he ask her if it’s unfair for clubs to go down, is it unfair for clubs not to come up? Would she be as vocal if Hearts weren’t bottom? Would she be lobbying for reconstruction? Does she agree they’re the worst team in the league by a distance? Have you been spending money on contracts you can’t afford? Etc,etc..
No he won’t, but that should be getting asked as a journalist!!

Especially from the bbc. They should be ashamed of themselves.
One day we’ll have an unbiased group of people on this willing an able to say it as it is.Not just be a mouthpiece for certain clubs agendas.

[jacomo]

Just as a wee aside, i wonder if many of the Hearts players have a clause in their contracts which means they are able to leave if the club was relegated. This might benefit Hearts as they will have to live within their means next season Ha ! but they might struggle to put a competitive team on the field, shame.


Given what a mess Budge has made of things, it wouldn’t surprise if most of their squad have no relegation clauses at all.

Budge may well have the opposite problem - stuck paying the wages of a load of players she can’t get rid of.

[MrSmith]

Given what a mess Budge has made of things, it wouldn’t surprise if most of their squad have no relegation clauses at all.

Budge may well have the opposite problem - stuck paying the wages of a load of players she can’t get rid of.

That is exactly why there will be and admin event at spincastle!

[Irish_Steve]

Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

[Viva_Palmeiras]

The editors and Editorial direction of Radio Scotland.
Now there’s something that has never had a light shone on it.
I’d imagine most Hibs fans and probably extending out to other clubs would have noticed a chance in Sportsound in recent years. More confrontational, controversial, stirring things up - Richard Gordon turned from mild mannered accountants to God knows what. Was it The Rangers going down wot done it?
Only a handful of folks seem to mention this.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

Clinging on to their club and notions of Jam-tartedness - I give you the cling-ons ;)

[Since452]

Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

They are a special breed

[Hibs4185]

Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

[Bostonhibby]

Some spanner on Brokeback has just said that there`s more chance of Hibs going bust than us - "Ron wont pump money into Hibs, if anything, he`ll take out as much as her can"

Where do they find these fuds??They're all on the Foundation of Givers list[emoji16]

Which is, as they say, pleasing.

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[Billy Whizz]

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Hearts have used 36 players this season, most in the Premiership, that’s a lot of wages to pay

[jacomo]

Correct me if I’m wrong but Budge insists they spent big to avoid relegation. I suspect they spent big to buy success. It all depends on the way you spin it. Same result, alas, ............ gross failure. :rolleyes:


God you are right.

All SPFL member clubs should vote to allow Budge to decide final league placings this season. As she says, she is not driven by self-interest at all and she just hates unfairness.

This will probably mean that Hearts will ‘finish’ somewhere in the top 3 - after all, she did spend a lot of money so deserves recognition for that. And Hibs will probably get relegated. But it’s a small price to pay to have this wonderful visionary businesswoman running our game.

[jacomo]

Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garuccio-makes-bullish-hearts-21892291

[Bostonhibby]

Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garuccio-makes-bullish-hearts-21892291So is David Icke, so they should be okay.

Deluded. He'll be telling us they paid for the poppies next

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[Onion]

Hearts have used 36 players this season, most in the Premiership, that’s a lot of wages to pay

And more fouls than any other club. so their famous rotational approach to thuggery working well.

Budge's "substantial investments to try to avoid relegation" in practice. Will be such a loss to the Premiership.

[Kaiser1962]

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

I noticed this a few weeks ago (when all this started) and one of the Celtic guys had posted each clubs running costs on twitter (no idea how accurate they were), in particular that it was costing around £500k - £600k a month more for Hearts to operate compared to Hibs. And Hibs have the entire running costs of East Mains to absorb.

[Brightside]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

[weecounty hibby]

It's all explained now. Kiwidoug made the comments. He's called that not because he is in NZ but because he has the IQ of a small flightless bird!! He is the king of the deluded morons

[Brightside]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

He is basically saying there is more chance of Ron dying?? Like WTAF.

[007]

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Probably paying off monthly all the players and other staff they've got rid of. Cathro's contract was to the end of this season so wouldn't be surprised if he's included in those figures.

[matty_f]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.
Kiwidoug is the same guy that said their second half of the season was demonstrably better than ours. :faf:


He's the sort of guy that would spend a day in a revolving door because he couldn't figure it out.

[Ozyhibby]

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Costs about £45k a month to run East mains. A lot of the staff will be furloughed just now but the groundsmen will still be working.


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[Ozyhibby]

Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garuccio-makes-bullish-hearts-21892291

All players with contracts will be staying where they are because the bottom has dropped out the market. Only player who may move are those moving up the way like Hickey and Boyle. Chances of Hearts getting rid of their many duds and us getting rid of James have been greatly reduced.


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[brog]

He is basically saying there is more chance of Ron dying?? Like WTAF.

Not just that but he basically described Ann Budge as a way of denigrating Hibs. Guy is on another planet.

[007]

Kiwidoug is the same guy that said their second half of the season was demonstrably better than ours. :faf:


He's the sort of guy that would spend a day in a revolving door because he couldn't figure it out.

I quite often see crazy comments on here that this guy has said. I wonder if anyone over there either challenges or agrees with the stuff he comes out with.

[wills]

UEFA conference call this Thursday, can we expect the announcement that season 19/20 is now over ?

[Ozyhibby]

I noticed this a few weeks ago (when all this started) and one of the Celtic guys had posted each clubs running costs on twitter (no idea how accurate they were), in particular that it was costing around £500k - £600k a month more for Hearts to operate compared to Hibs. And Hibs have the entire running costs of East Mains to absorb.

I wonder if Hearts are getting rent relief at Herriot Watt?


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[Ozyhibby]

UEFA conference call this Thursday, can we expect the announcement that season 19/20 is now over ?

I think UEFA will just say that it can happen and leave it up to the member associations to call if they want.


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[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garuccio-makes-bullish-hearts-21892291

A honking full back from Oz. Sure he had a bizarre dig at us last season over something, like most of the random nobodies they sign seem to do. Think Ryan McGowan but without a modicum of any ability. Course he’ll be there next season, no other mugs will pay him a couple or grand a week to sit in the stand.

[Caversham Green]

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

To put it another way, at the start of this financial year Hibs had enough cash in hand to cover 45 weeks worth of staff costs if no other costs are considered. Hearts had enough to cover 3.75 weeks. Hearts other costs are significantly higher than ours as well.

So which club is best positioned to weather this storm?

[Irish_Steve]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

He`s the bloke I was talking about! They have FOH, we had Hands off Hibs where one of their most prolific goal scorers stood side by side with us

[AltheHibby]

Kiwidoug is the same guy that said their second half of the season was demonstrably better than ours. :faf:


He's the sort of guy that would spend a day in a revolving door because he couldn't figure it out.

He has as much chance of joining MENSA as the elephant man had of joining the Chippendales! Or me being named slimmer of the year during the lockdown. :greengrin

[AltheHibby]

I wonder if Hearts are getting rent relief at Herriot Watt?


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Don't feed me lines that will lead to me getting banned.:greengrin

[Kaiser1962]

This was the post on twitter

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200318/4e828c1ac68cefae849ed569ec51ee1e.jpg

No idea where the figures are from or how accurate they are but seem to (loosely) fit with what we know.

[Irish_Steve]

More likely to get hand relief at Heriot Watt

[HFC93]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.


Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

Kiwidoug is Shaun Lawson without the vocabulary. On a website full of zoomers he manages to stand out, which is something. Probably loves the attention.

[cocteautwin]

This made me think about both clubs.

Hearts outgoings are £1.4 million a month - £350k a week. Even with 20 donkeys on £6 a week, that’s £120k. Where does the other £230k go??? I know they do their own hospitality etc but £230k a week is a colossal figure.

Hibs are roughly £750k a month so £187k a week. A squad of 20 at around £3k a week average, so £60k. Obviously you have tax VAT etc, directors pay, East Mains and so On.

I know which club is better run form those basic sums.

Holy cow. I read that £1.4m a month and thought that can't be right, but when you look at their accounts, indeed their total costs for 2019 are nearly £15m p.a., so roughly £1.3m a month. Must be bigger in 2020. Astonishing.

[wills]

I think UEFA will just say that it can happen and leave it up to the member associations to call if they want.


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Hopefully, with clarification that champions league and europa league places will not be jeopardised

[Sergio sledge]

Ben Garuccio (who?) confident Hearts could play themselves out of trouble (how?) and confirms he has every intention of seeing out his contract at Hearts next season (ha!)

[url]https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garuccio-makes-bullish-hearts-21892291[/url

Interesting that the article mentions that he is in talks about a "wage deferral". I wonder if revolutionary, ahead of the game Ann Budge has had to back track and is now offering defferals rather than wage cuts?

[lapsedhibee]

If we can play them this year in front of a crowd I'd agree.

Might reconsider the use of Murrayfield to cut down travel.

If the M8's considered a risk, shirley there's no chance that Hampden or Murrayfield will be considered safe.

[Ozyhibby]

This was the post on twitter

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200318/4e828c1ac68cefae849ed569ec51ee1e.jpg

No idea where the figures are from or how accurate they are but seem to (loosely) fit with what we know.

The Aberdeen chairman confirmed their figure was correct on the radio on Saturday.


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[Ozyhibby]

Hopefully, with clarification that champions league and europa league places will not be jeopardised

I have my doubt those comps will go ahead next season anyway.


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[brog]

A honking full back from Oz. Sure he had a bizarre dig at us last season over something, like most of the random nobodies they sign seem to do. Think Ryan McGowan but without a modicum of any ability. Course he’ll be there next season, no other mugs will pay him a couple or grand a week to sit in the stand.

Random nobodies is a perfect summation. The Natural Order game was on Sky yesterday & although it was only 2 years ago I had already forgotten RN's such as Godinho, Amankwaa & Randall. Amazing!

[Peevemor]

The Aberdeen chairman confirmed their figure was correct on the radio on Saturday.


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The figures were probably correct but are knocking on a year out of date.

[Jones28]

These people are not right in the head.....from over the road.

1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:
In terms of clubs folding if this nightmare continues for months, there is a massively bigger chance of Hibs folding than us. Ron will cut his losses and piss off. Not a chance he will plough in money to save them. More likely he will take money out if he can.



We will struggle too. Every club will. We have FoH though and a history of banding together to save our club. Every chance that AB will come up with another loan as well to see us through.



When the chips are down, if they really do go down, we'll survive, they won't.

Additionally and at the risk of being morbid, a lot of owners are older and more vulnerable to covid19. Clubs who are quite reliant on one person may find it hard to survive if their owners are suddenly no longer around.

Oh my god 😂

Ok KiwiDoug, you crack on mate.

[Jim44]

UEFA conference call this Thursday, can we expect the announcement that season 19/20 is now over ?


I think UEFA will just say that it can happen and leave it up to the member associations to call if they want.


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........ and so we will just carry on with the Budge charade.

[Irish_Steve]

The figures were probably correct but are knocking on a year out of date.

Yeah because they say Rangers only have 7 days left and they seem to be surviving - gits

[G B Young]

Might already have been posted, but what Gray says here flies in the face of what Budge is trying to claim. Hard to see how they can work well together as a 'task force':

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52344236


A total of 81% of clubs backed the proposal, with Dundee's belated change of heart allowing it to pass.
"The silent majority have carried the day," Hamilton Academical's Gray said.
"It's the clubs that voted 'no' that are the noisiest. And I'm looking at what their motives might be."

[Peevemor]

Might already have been posted, but what Gray says here flies in the face of what Budge is trying to claim. Hard to see how they can work well together as a 'task force':

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52344236


A total of 81% of clubs backed the proposal, with Dundee's belated change of heart allowing it to pass.
"The silent majority have carried the day," Hamilton Academical's Gray said.
"It's the clubs that voted 'no' that are the noisiest. And I'm looking at what their motives might be."

There would be no need for a "steering group" or "task force" if everyone agreed.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Random nobodies is a perfect summation. The Natural Order game was on Sky yesterday & although it was only 2 years ago I had already forgotten RN's such as Godinho, Amankwaa & Randall. Amazing!

I mean we all have them, think Nelom for us for example. The difference being, our random nobodies pitch up, do nothing of note then quietly move on. Theirs arrive, do a weird interview where they talk about how small Hibs are, do nothing of note then move on to part time football or something. Utter weirdos

[AltheHibby]

I quite often see crazy comments on here that this guy has said. I wonder if anyone over there either challenges or agrees with the stuff he comes out with.

They seem to think he's a guru. It's like us and CWG, (and others) except our gurus actually know what they're talking about.

[Kato]

They seem to think he's a guru. It's like us and CWG, (and others) except our gurus actually know what they're talking about.A guru? He's been predicting Hibs financial demise for about 15 years. The Bagwhan's followers saw through his bull in a shorter time.

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[brog]

I mean we all have them, think Nelom for us for example. The difference being, our random nobodies pitch up, do nothing of note then quietly move on. Theirs arrive, do a weird interview where they talk about how small Hibs are, do nothing of note then move on to part time football or something. Utter weirdos

The other difference is we don't go overboard about those type of signings &, as in your example, they're usually on fairly short contracts. Nelom was less than 1 year, Malaury Martin was 4!! :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

The editors and Editorial direction of Radio Scotland.
Now there’s something that has never had a light shone on it.
I’d imagine most Hibs fans and probably extending out to other clubs would have noticed a chance in Sportsound in recent years. More confrontational, controversial, stirring things up - Richard Gordon turned from mild mannered accountants to God knows what. Was it The Rangers going down wot done it?
Only a handful of folks seem to mention this.

There was a guy on here (username Davie Roy who appears to know a lot about tv and radio) who seemed to indicate one of the main guys in charge was a Hearts fan which would not be in the least surprised given the editorial content from never actually properly discussing Romanov to the truly bizarre act of an Aberdeen fan indicating it was Karma when Hibs were relegated to the pro Hearts regular studio guests.

[JimBHibees]

Kiwidoug is the same guy that said their second half of the season was demonstrably better than ours. :faf:


He's the sort of guy that would spend a day in a revolving door because he couldn't figure it out.

:faf::faf:

[Bostonhibby]

He`s the bloke I was talking about! They have FOH, we had Hands off Hibs where one of their most prolific goal scorers stood side by side with usHe is one of their top roasters, an attention seeker whose more to be pitied than scorned. And that's the opinion of our family yam!

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[Keith_M]

FoH have announced a slight increase to their monthly donations to Hearts. They didn't say what it was but they're already donating 120k a month to their budget (basically 10% of Hearts' monthly expenditure).

It doesn't look to me like they're too bothered (at least those in charge of FoH) about the delay in taking over the club and just see the contributions as a means of survival, which is fair enough.

[Joe6-2]

I wonder if Hearts are getting rent relief at Herriot Watt?


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That’s if they were paying their rent

[Joe6-2]

They seem to think he's a guru. It's like us and CWG, (and others) except our gurus actually know what they're talking about.

Mental Guru!
Some older fans might get that!

[CropleyWasGod]

Mental Guru!
Some older fans might get that!

I got it on.

[Irish_Steve]

The other difference is we don't go overboard about those type of signings &, as in your example, they're usually on fairly short contracts. Nelom was less than 1 year, Malaury Martin was 4!! :greengrin

Martin now playing with Serie D club, Palermo - he`s stepped up then lol

[Skol]

Following 'Self sufficient Southern' I think Queen Anne should henceforth be known as 'Self interest Budge'.

Honestly JKB full of folk complaining about others looking after their own interests and ignoring that fact that is the only game in town for them

[Sammy7nil]

Quotes from wayback

"Ron Gordon lending money to Hibs is a wonderful opportunity for him to activate the securities he has on Hibs assets such as the ground and the training barn.



If Ron Gordon plays this right, he could gain ownership of a large chunk of Edinburgh real estate for a relative song."

"Hopefully Easter Road sold off to become a supermarket. Hibernian. Always the Lidl team"

Just WTF these people wander our streets.

[Irish_Steve]

Quotes from wayback

"Ron Gordon lending money to Hibs is a wonderful opportunity for him to activate the securities he has on Hibs assets such as the ground and the training barn.



If Ron Gordon plays this right, he could gain ownership of a large chunk of Edinburgh real estate for a relative song."

"Hopefully Easter Road sold off to become a supermarket. Hibernian. Always the Lidl team"

Just WTF these people wander our streets.

They will be the people who wear disposable gloves all day and have their face mask hanging off their chins

[Ozyhibby]

Quotes from wayback

"Ron Gordon lending money to Hibs is a wonderful opportunity for him to activate the securities he has on Hibs assets such as the ground and the training barn.



If Ron Gordon plays this right, he could gain ownership of a large chunk of Edinburgh real estate for a relative song."

"Hopefully Easter Road sold off to become a supermarket. Hibernian. Always the Lidl team"

Just WTF these people wander our streets.

No wandering recently to be fair.[emoji6]


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[Bostonhibby]

Quotes from wayback

"Ron Gordon lending money to Hibs is a wonderful opportunity for him to activate the securities he has on Hibs assets such as the ground and the training barn.



If Ron Gordon plays this right, he could gain ownership of a large chunk of Edinburgh real estate for a relative song."

"Hopefully Easter Road sold off to become a supermarket. Hibernian. Always the Lidl team"

Just WTF these people wander our streets.Great bit of distraction from their issues. If someone throws a stick for them they'll fetch it back for hours on end.

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[Joe6-2]

I got it on.

😂

[Keith_M]

"Hopefully Easter Road sold off to become a supermarket. Hibernian. Always the Lidl team"

Just WTF these people wander our streets.



They've just finished below "the LIDL team" for the third season in a row, so have to get some comfort somewhere.






Anyway, if we're LIDL then this must be the Hearts equivelant....


https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/ad_158013182.jpg?quality=70&strip=all

[Victor]

FoH have announced a slight increase to their monthly donations to Hearts. They didn't say what it was but they're already donating 120k a month to their budget (basically 10% of Hearts' monthly expenditure).

It doesn't look to me like they're too bothered (at least those in charge of FoH) about the delay in taking over the club and just see the contributions as a means of survival, which is fair enough.

Unfortunately she will squander the extra cash on magic beans, jet-packs and a monorail. The reality for Hearts is that they would be better off if they were relegated. They could justifiably get rid of Herman the German, the ex-Managers Club and their over the hill over paid players. Start afresh with a Manager that knows the Championship, let FOH take over (let Budge stay on as a figurehead CEO if necessary) and be back in the Premier League the season after next, leaner and fitter. In my opinion, if the Premier League reconstruction is approved and they stay in the top-flight, they will no doubt continue as normal and face the same problems at the end of next season. There is something seriously wrong at the centre of their Club, which if they don’t address now, will drag them down.


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[FilipinoHibs]

😂

Me to. Ride a white swan.

[O'Rourke3]

Re Kiwi Doug. I believe he may be seeing all the infinite number of Universes and is describing one of these accuaratly. This universe also holds true that gambling millions in the hope you get promotion is the same as gambling millions to prevent relegation and that 17 points clear equated to 4 points behind. Known as "the Scotland were world champions equivalency", having beaten England in 1967.
Of course he could simply be an @rs3

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[HoboHarry]

Mental Guru!
Some older fans might get that!
Anyone who is a 20th Century Boy will get it....

[Joe6-2]

Anyone who is a 20th Century Boy will get it....

👍

[Peanut Shaz]

Anyone who is a 20th Century Boy will get it....

Swans me a Telegram Sam

[AltheHibby]

For any Hearts fans looking in, we are talking about T-rex, and not Trex, the low fat alternative to butter you use in your bake sales.

[Irish_Steve]

Anyone who is a 20th Century Boy will get it....

Dinosaurs, the lot of you

[Aldo]

Quotes from wayback

"Ron Gordon lending money to Hibs is a wonderful opportunity for him to activate the securities he has on Hibs assets such as the ground and the training barn.



If Ron Gordon plays this right, he could gain ownership of a large chunk of Edinburgh real estate for a relative song."

"Hopefully Easter Road sold off to become a supermarket. Hibernian. Always the Lidl team"

Just WTF these people wander our streets.

At least it’s our Barn and we don’t need to move off when some random 7 aside teams turn up to play because they’ve booked it months ago!

As for Lidl teams.... if Lidl means paying your way and no bumping charities (including the Lady Haig Poppy Fund - for those looking in) then happy with that!


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[Iain G]

Re Kiwi Doug. I believe he may be seeing all the infinite number of Universes and is describing one of these accuaratly. This universe also holds true that gambling millions in the hope you get promotion is the same as gambling millions to prevent relegation and that 17 points clear equated to 4 points behind. Known as "the Scotland were world champions equivalency", having beaten England in 1967.
Of course he could simply be an @rs3

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I would even doubt whether he is a kiwi or even called Doug...

[Peevemor]

I would even doubt whether he is a kiwi or even called Doug...

Yeah, more like Duncan the lemon.

[Future17]

I mean we all have them, think Nelom for us for example. The difference being, our random nobodies pitch up, do nothing of note then quietly move on. Theirs arrive, do a weird interview where they talk about how small Hibs are, do nothing of note then move on to part time football or something. Utter weirdos

To be fair to Hibs, Nelom was a Dutch internationalist.

[rodhibs55]

Dinosaurs, the lot of you

Just Children of the revolution.

[HoboHarry]

I would even doubt whether he is a kiwi or even called Doug...
I'm fairly certain he isn't a Kiwi. Back in the day on the Scotsman forums I caught him numerous times unable to keep his time differences straight lol. The Prof and Totty were fellow compulsive liars.....

[cocteautwin]

I would even doubt whether he is a kiwi or even called Doug...

Kiwi-Dugsh i te surely

[rodhibs55]

Kiwi-Dugsh i te surely

Kiwi Fruitcake

[Joe6-2]

Dinosaurs, the lot of you

Sadly yes!!

[jacomo]

Unfortunately she will squander the extra cash on magic beans, jet-packs and a monorail. The reality for Hearts is that they would be better off if they were relegated. They could justifiably get rid of Herman the German, the ex-Managers Club and their over the hill over paid players. Start afresh with a Manager that knows the Championship, let FOH take over (let Budge stay on as a figurehead CEO if necessary) and be back in the Premier League the season after next, leaner and fitter. In my opinion, if the Premier League reconstruction is approved and they stay in the top-flight, they will no doubt continue as normal and face the same problems at the end of next season. There is something seriously wrong at the centre of their Club, which if they don’t address now, will drag them down.


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They can’t keep Budge in any role and not have her interfere. She has no idea where the limit of her ability lies.

[Baader]

That Kiwi Doug guy is hilarious. A complete fantasist who gets everything spectacularly wrong. Brilliant!

[jacomo]

That Kiwi Doug guy is hilarious. A complete fantasist who gets everything spectacularly wrong. Brilliant!


I think it’s a sock puppet account from Ann Budge.

Seem to remember kiwi Doug making reassuring noises about their stand before it reopened... it may be running ‘a few weeks late’ but would undoubtedly be magnificent and see us Hibees seething with jealousy...

[O'Rourke3]

I think it’s a sock puppet account from Ann Budge.

Seem to remember kiwi Doug making reassuring noises about their stand before it reopened... it may be running ‘a few weeks late’ but would undoubtedly be magnificent and see us Hibees seething with jealousy...If it's the same Kiwi Dug persona that used to infest the Evening News site then she was still running Newell and Budge at the time. Doesn't not make her that slavering fantasist though.....

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[MikeyS]

I think it’s a sock puppet account from Ann Budge.

Seem to remember kiwi Doug making reassuring noises about their stand before it reopened... it may be running ‘a few weeks late’ but would undoubtedly be magnificent and see us Hibees seething with jealousy...

I think you are on to something, just like her statements he cant make a post without a wee dig at Hibs.

The one earlier about being a good judge of character and being able to spot pillocks was great irony. Mentioned how he knew Deek & Scott Brown were pillocks as soon as he saw them!

[Baader]

I think you are on to something, just like her statements he cant make a post without a wee dig at Hibs.

The one earlier about being a good judge of character and being able to spot pillocks was great irony. Mentioned how he knew Deek & Scott Brown were pillocks as soon as he saw them!

Other gems of his include 3 time Slam winner and Olympic gold medalist Andy Murray not being very good at tennis. :faf:

[EI255]

Double whammy for the Jumbos now.... If attendances are restricted or games played behind closed doors then they will toil, especially if they go down. Bet they didn't expect this Cruise Missile..... BOOM!

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[jacomo]

If it's the same Kiwi Dug persona that used to infest the Evening News site then she was still running Newell and Budge at the time. Doesn't not make her that slavering fantasist though.....

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I’m more and more convinced that, although she walked off with a huge chunk of money, other people were responsible for the success of her company. Everything she touches turns to ****.

Would hardly be the first time that some narcissist at the top has profited from the hard work of others.

[MikeyS]

Other gems of his include 3 time Slam winner and Olympic gold medalist Andy Murray not being very good at tennis. :faf:

Cant see the wood for the trees!

He reminds me of a guy I used to work with, would never fail to correct someone if they said "Hibs & Hearts" instead of the alphabetically correct way of "Hearts & Hibs"

Same guy took a day of each time a new Championship Manager game was released and his 1st thought was to go Hibs and get us relegated! On a computer game. That took hours!

[Peevemor]

Cant see the wood for the trees!

He reminds me of a guy I used to work with, would never fail to correct someone if they said "Hibs & Hearts" instead of the alphabetically correct way of "Hearts & Hibs"

Same guy took a day of each time a new Championship Manager game was released and his 1st thought was to go Hibs and get us relegated! On a computer game. That took hours!

Haha! Is this a rule that they've invented?

[truehibernian]

Other gems of his include 3 time Slam winner and Olympic gold medalist Andy Murray not being very good at tennis. :faf:

This lad sounds like he’d struggle completing a game of Swingball in his garden let alone manage to play tennis !

[Kato]

Haha! Is this a rule that they've invented?

Sounds like that guy invented it as a rule in his head and thought it should be applied to everybody's everyday conversation. They truly are a special brand of weird all of their own.

[MikeyS]

Haha! Is this a rule that they've invented?

Honestly, this happened every time in this boys company!

Wouldn't give his kids green smarties, pastilles or m&ms either! 😂

[AltheHibby]

Honestly, this happened every time in this boys company!

Wouldn't give his kids green smarties, pastilles or m&ms either! ��

When I lived in Hampshire we had someone from Portsmouth who worked at our depot in Dorset. The straight road from home to work was about 1 hour. Problem was, the motorway goes through the edge of Southampton so he went inland and added an hour each day to his commute rather than drive at speed through Southampton.

Must be Kiwimug's English cousin.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I’m more and more convinced that, although she walked off with a huge chunk of money, other people were responsible for the success of her company. Everything she touches turns to ****.

Would hardly be the first time that some narcissist at the top has profited from the hard work of others.

Everyone who ever dealt with Newell and Budge at a senior level clearly understood that it was Alison Newell who was the brains of the operation. She wanted to retire, took the French money les Francais had no time fir the Mrs Doctor's "abilities" other than to turn the door handle on the exit.

[bigwheel]

Everyone who ever dealt with Newell and Budge at a senior level clearly understood that it was Alison Newell who was the brains of the operation. She wanted to retire, took the French money les Francais had no time fir the Mrs Doctor's "abilities" other than to turn the door handle on the exit.


Think that's a bit unfair...Budge was always thought of, in my experience, as a fairly straight character...bought out Newell a number of years before the Sopra deal. It grew after that buy-out and was had largely a decent rep across the IT scene....

[blackpoolhibs]

For any Hearts fans looking in, we are talking about T-rex, and not Trex, the low fat alternative to butter you use in your bake sales.

I dont think there are an children of the revolution watching in. :wink:

Bollox, someone got in there first. nevermind, life's a gas.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Think that's a bit unfair...Budge was always thought of, in my experience, as a fairly straight character...bought out Newell a number of years before the Sopra deal. It grew after that buy-out and was had largely a decent rep across the IT scene....

My experience of her and her company is somewhat different.

[rodhibs55]

I dont think there are an children of the revolution watching in. :wink:

Bollox, someone got in there first. nevermind, life's a gas.

That's what happens when you are still on Telegram Sam.

[Sudds_1]

That's what happens when you are still on Telegram Sam.

...or riding white swans😁

[FilipinoHibs]

...or riding white swans😁

She certainly no Dream Lady.

[Joe6-2]

Some real T. rex fans here!
I love to budgie!! 😂😂😂🤮

[Sweet Left Peg]

T-Rex even wrote a song about Gary "Medal Guru" Mackay

[Joe6-2]

T-Rex even wrote a song about Gary "Medal Guru" Mackay

Ha ha

[Sweet Left Peg]

And "Solid Gold Pishy Action" must have been influenced by one of theirs. Can't think who, mind...

[blackpoolhibs]

And "Solid Gold Pishy Action" must have been influenced by one of theirs. Can't think who, mind...


He he he

[Irish_Steve]

Just had another wee look on Brokeback - Ann the visionary has saved Hearts with her wage cut demand (although they conveniently fail to show how many players took that cut) whereas we are up the swanny because we`ve gone down the wage deferral route and soon won`t be able to pay the 7-10K per week are players are on lol

[Crazyhorse]

T-Rex even wrote a song about Gary "Medal Guru" Mackay

He certainly never got a chance to hang a gong.

[Sammy7nil]

Another belter from KB :greengrin WtF


"The ones in danger will be the likes of Rangers, D Utd, Killie, Caley, Dundee, St J who all either have debts or have been in the news because they're not doing great financially. Behind them will be Aberdeen and Hibs who although in decent shape have committed to deferring wages.

I'll be amazed if this doesn't bring Rangers down again. They're too arrogant to cut their cloth."

[Bostonhibby]

Another belter from KB :greengrin WtF


"The ones in danger will be the likes of Rangers, D Utd, Killie, Caley, Dundee, St J who all either have debts or have been in the news because they're not doing great financially. Behind them will be Aberdeen and Hibs who although in decent shape have committed to deferring wages.

I'll be amazed if this doesn't bring Rangers down again. They're too arrogant to cut their cloth."Everyone should do it the Hearts way, look where all that money gets you.

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[Ozyhibby]

Another belter from KB :greengrin WtF


"The ones in danger will be the likes of Rangers, D Utd, Killie, Caley, Dundee, St J who all either have debts or have been in the news because they're not doing great financially. Behind them will be Aberdeen and Hibs who although in decent shape have committed to deferring wages.

I'll be amazed if this doesn't bring Rangers down again. They're too arrogant to cut their cloth."

Kickback is a hoot just now. Just about every club in Scotland but especially Hibs are about to go bust except for Hearts who are rock solid financially.


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[poolman]

Kickback is a hoot just now. Just about every club in Scotland but especially Hibs are about to go bust except for Hearts who are rock solid financially.


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I've always wondered how all these Yakbackers have access to all these teams financial accounts

[weecounty hibby]

I've always wondered how all these Yakbackers have access to all these teams financial accounts

They barely have access to reality never mind anything else

[Peevemor]

Hey - KiwiTube - I know you look in.

In response to more of your football falsehoods, ie.


9 accredited living wage football clubs in the UK. Hearts the only Scottish one.


Wonder what Leann and others have to say about that. Absolutely nothing I suspect although my friends on .net might claim Hibs as the first Scottish club not to be an accredited living wage employer.


Another first.


Hibs have been paying the living wage for more than 5 years - only we don't run to the media every time we fart and it smells nice.

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/1344342-football-boss-criticises-councillor-for-online-petition?top

[jacomo]

They barely have access to reality never mind anything else


They are like that kid at school who mocked your dad for driving a Ford and said their dad had a Rolls Royce, and the reason you never saw it was because it was currently in the garage. And you never saw their dad either because he was ‘away on business’.

[weecounty hibby]

Hey - KiwiTube - I know you look in.

In response to more of your football falsehoods, ie.



Hibs have been paying the living wage for more than 5 years - only we don't run to the media every time we fart and it smells nice.

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/1344342-football-boss-criticises-councillor-for-online-petition?top
You will blow kiwidug*****s mind using actual facts instead of what he does in using the most intimate parts of his sad wet dreams

[The Spaceman]

Kickback is a hoot just now. Just about every club in Scotland but especially Hibs are about to go bust except for Hearts who are rock solid financially.


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It is absolutely staggering. A digest:



They are boycotting as a support every single club who A) voted Yes and B) are not pro-reconstruction. Like their big cousins in Glasgow with their "blue pound" in 2012...the maroon pound will reign supreme over Scottish Football.
Hibs are in deep financial trouble. Despite having no debt, owning all our own facilities and having millions in the bank, Ron Gordon is out to fleece us for all we have.
Aberdeen are in deep financial trouble too.
HeArTS aRe AbsolUTeLy ROck soLID. fOUNdaTion oF hEaRts WiLL geT THEm ThRoUgh AnY CrIsEs IMAGiNEabLe And QuEeN AnN hAS ThEiR BeST inTEReStS At HeaRT.


Astonishing levels of delusion. They are one of the biggest basket cases in Scottish Football just now and one of the most vulnerable clubs. Every shred of evidence when analysing accounts shows this. But as usual, they don't like facts - just whatever wet dream they can conjure in their tiny little minds will do for them.

[bringbackbenny]

It is absolutely staggering. A digest:



They are boycotting as a support every single club who A) voted Yes and B) are not pro-reconstruction. Like their big cousins in Glasgow with their "blue pound" in 2012...the maroon pound will reign supreme over Scottish Football.
Hibs are in deep financial trouble. Despite having no debt, owning all our own facilities and having millions in the bank, Ron Gordon is out to fleece us for all we have.
Aberdeen are in deep financial trouble too.
HeArTS aRe AbsolUTeLy ROck soLID. fOUNdaTion oF hEaRts WiLL geT THEm ThRoUgh AnY CrIsEs IMAGiNEabLe And QuEeN AnN hAS ThEiR BeST inTEReStS At HeaRT.


Astonishing levels of delusion. They are one of the biggest basket cases in Scottish Football just now and one of the most vulnerable clubs. Every shred of evidence when analysing accounts shows this. But as usual, they don't like facts - just whatever wet dream they can conjure in their tiny little minds will do for them.

Any concept of a "maroon pound" is at minimum a WTF moment but closer to offensive. I'll bet all the local businesses, den mother's etc financially shafted by their past cheating wouldn't mind a fair share of their rotten cash ☹️.

[Irish_Steve]

Brokeback is certainly getting me through the lockdown. They are either fighting with themselves or are coming out with totally "wtf" moments. And I love the ones that start, "I may not be a lawyer but...." and then spew utter b*llocks

And stuff like this
"And that is the reason Dempster pulled out of the task force, because Hibs are toiling and she can’t be seen to be spending time on reconstruction meetings while her club is going down the pan".

From Ethan Hunt which is obviously rhyming slang

Another update required - good to see Kiwi Dug-sh*te reads this and then reports back lol

"I judge from personal abuse I am experiencing on .net that I and others on here are very much touching a nerve in terms of Hibs ongoing viability as this pandemic continues to worsen.



While I personally couldn't give a toss what happens to to them, it raises the comparisons in their minds of HSL v FoH and AB v Ron.



As we look to securing our future, I would be terrified if we were significantly having to pin our hopes on Ron and HSL.



Imo we are in a very strong position compared to most other Scottish clubs and whether we are relegated or not is the least of Hibs worries at present."

[SHODAN]

Hey - KiwiTube - I know you look in.

In response to more of your football falsehoods, ie.



Hibs have been paying the living wage for more than 5 years - only we don't run to the media every time we fart and it smells nice.

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/1344342-football-boss-criticises-councillor-for-online-petition?top

That was fantastic - Hearts-supporting politician tries to show us up for not paying the living wage only for us to respond that we already did.

[Sammy7nil]

According to KB The auld Bat is running The country with Nicola, this all because The FM went to Tynecastle years ago to publicise the living wage.

"I think I am right in saying that Nicola Sturgeon and Ann Budge know each other on a some level. How buddy buddy they are I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if there has been a phone call between them in the last 6 weeks. Not for favours or anything underhand of course, but she may have asked a timescale question or 2"

I think the FM may have other things on her mind rather than chatting with Queen Anne when this https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ann-budge-acting-hearts-self-21897432

Is the publicity she is getting :greengrin

[Sammy7nil]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ann-budge-acting-hearts-self-21897432

[Peevemor]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ann-budge-acting-hearts-self-21897432


“I've got no problem with Neil Doncaster and the SPFL. They are
 doing what they can and have been fantastic at getting
 information to all the clubs. Someone had to make the decision – there was no point fannying about.”


:top marks

[jacomo]

According to KB The auld Bat is running The country with Nicola, this all because The FM went to Tynecastle years ago to publicise the living wage.

"I think I am right in saying that Nicola Sturgeon and Ann Budge know each other on a some level. How buddy buddy they are I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if there has been a phone call between them in the last 6 weeks. Not for favours or anything underhand of course, but she may have asked a timescale question or 2"

I think the FM may have other things on her mind rather than chatting with Queen Anne when this https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ann-budge-acting-hearts-self-21897432

Is the publicity she is getting :greengrin


I joked last week that Budge will soon be bragging about Sturgeon asking her for advice on the Coronavirus pandemic.

These people are so deluded.

[makaveli1875]

“I've got no problem with Neil Doncaster and the SPFL. They are
 doing what they can and have been fantastic at getting
 information to all the clubs. Someone had to make the decision – there was no point fannying about.”


:top marks

Surely not its all a big conspiracy to relegate Hearts and rob The Rangers of their 1st title .

[The Modfather]

It is absolutely staggering. A digest:



They are boycotting as a support every single club who A) voted Yes and B) are not pro-reconstruction. Like their big cousins in Glasgow with their "blue pound" in 2012...the maroon pound will reign supreme over Scottish Football.
Hibs are in deep financial trouble. Despite having no debt, owning all our own facilities and having millions in the bank, Ron Gordon is out to fleece us for all we have.
Aberdeen are in deep financial trouble too.
HeArTS aRe AbsolUTeLy ROck soLID. fOUNdaTion oF hEaRts WiLL geT THEm ThRoUgh AnY CrIsEs IMAGiNEabLe And QuEeN AnN hAS ThEiR BeST inTEReStS At HeaRT.


Astonishing levels of delusion. They are one of the biggest basket cases in Scottish Football just now and one of the most vulnerable clubs. Every shred of evidence when analysing accounts shows this. But as usual, they don't like facts - just whatever wet dream they can conjure in their tiny little minds will do for them.

You forgot about Budge, the visionary, being ahead of the pack in instigating a 50% pay cut for all players. While a month or two later they are still trying to get the players to agree to this while we all wait to see if the April wages will be paid or not.

[jacomo]

Another update required - good to see Kiwi Dug-sh*te reads this and then reports back lol

"I judge from personal abuse I am experiencing on .net that I and others on here are very much touching a nerve in terms of Hibs ongoing viability as this pandemic continues to worsen.”





The only thing touching a nerve with me is their continued refusal to accept relegation with any grace or humility at all.

This from a club that promotes Save the Children on their shirts and uses a story of heroic self-sacrifice as its core brand-building myth. The irony is not lost on me.

The sooner they get relegated the better. No doubt their pathetic bleating will continue, but it will be easier to ignore.

[Joe6-2]

I joked last week that Budge will soon be bragging about Sturgeon asking her for advice on the Coronavirus pandemic.

These people are so deluded.

They do have history with first ministers!

[Irish_Steve]

They do have history with first ministers!

And sex-pests

[Jones28]

Brokeback is certainly getting me through the lockdown. They are either fighting with themselves or are coming out with totally "wtf" moments. And I love the ones that start, "I may not be a lawyer but...." and then spew utter b*llocks

And stuff like this
"And that is the reason Dempster pulled out of the task force, because Hibs are toiling and she can’t be seen to be spending time on reconstruction meetings while her club is going down the pan".

From Ethan Hunt which is obviously rhyming slang

Another update required - good to see Kiwi Dug-sh*te reads this and then reports back lol

"I judge from personal abuse I am experiencing on .net that I and others on here are very much touching a nerve in terms of Hibs ongoing viability as this pandemic continues to worsen.



While I personally couldn't give a toss what happens to to them, it raises the comparisons in their minds of HSL v FoH and AB v Ron.



As we look to securing our future, I would be terrified if we were significantly having to pin our hopes on Ron and HSL.



Imo we are in a very strong position compared to most other Scottish clubs and whether we are relegated or not is the least of Hibs worries at present."

No Kiwi, take it from me that the only reason anyone is talking about you on this board is to give everyone a laugh at the utter, utter ***** you’re talking 😂

The ongoing viability of Hibs isn’t even a question, it’s a certainty. What isn’t a certainty is the future of your club: championship or premiership? Wages paid or not? Cash in the bank? Stand finished? Legal challenges to relegation?

The ***** he’s coming out with would make relegation all the sweeter.

[Irish_Steve]

No Kiwi, take it from me that the only reason anyone is talking about you on this board is to give everyone a laugh at the utter, utter ***** you’re talking 😂

The ongoing viability of Hibs isn’t even a question, it’s a certainty. What isn’t a certainty is the future of your club: championship or premiership? Wages paid or not? Cash in the bank? Stand finished? Legal challenges to relegation?

The ***** he’s coming out with would make relegation all the sweeter.

And the plums on there all suck it up as if he was some kind of Mystic Meg - deluded isn`t even close

[Aldo]

Brokeback is certainly getting me through the lockdown. They are either fighting with themselves or are coming out with totally "wtf" moments. And I love the ones that start, "I may not be a lawyer but...." and then spew utter b*llocks

And stuff like this
"And that is the reason Dempster pulled out of the task force, because Hibs are toiling and she can’t be seen to be spending time on reconstruction meetings while her club is going down the pan".

From Ethan Hunt which is obviously rhyming slang

Another update required - good to see Kiwi Dug-sh*te reads this and then reports back lol

"I judge from personal abuse I am experiencing on .net that I and others on here are very much touching a nerve in terms of Hibs ongoing viability as this pandemic continues to worsen.



While I personally couldn't give a toss what happens to to them, it raises the comparisons in their minds of HSL v FoH and AB v Ron.



As we look to securing our future, I would be terrified if we were significantly having to pin our hopes on Ron and HSL.



Imo we are in a very strong position compared to most other Scottish clubs and whether we are relegated or not is the least of Hibs worries at present."

The last paragraph is superb. As it stands I am not aware of any other Club, bar Ha Ha Hearts that have publicly stated they have a funding gap, and a 3 million pound one at that!

I know what position I’d rather be in!


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[HIBERNIAN-0762]

I think the cabin fever is truly getting to them now, I mean they were nuts before this but now taking the delusion to really strange heights, another beauty is that we were very very lucky to get the draw in THAT game and they had players kicked off the park that changed the game.

Keep it up mugs, we're loving it on here, oh and Kiwifud, you are in line for the comedy gold award of the highest order! :crazy::hilarious:not worth

[jacomo]

And sex-pests


For legal reasons I feel obliged to say that the former first minister was found innocent of most charges, with the rest not proven...

[AltheHibby]

For legal reasons I feel obliged to say that the former first minister was found innocent of most charges, with the rest not proven...

Mr Rix on the other hand was found guilty. Then they employed him.

[Green_one]

I go onto sickback occasionally but always regret it. Full of numpties with nothing useful to say. Any semblance of common sense is crushed immediately. The fact that they are sitting with three failed managers on the payroll , a part finished hugely expensive stand and adrift in the league, worries them not a jot. Because they are great and Hibs are vermin.

They have missed their target for handover from QA and @***ed a whole load of fan cash down the drain. No sign of them learning from that. Good thing really.

[JeMeSouviens]

So this Hibs are about to go bust thing. We've got no debts, own the ground and training centre, have a rich owner and cash in the bank. I struggle to see how you get there even invoking Jambo-logic?

Is it literally just a case of "aye but, youse are, so there"?

[Irish_Steve]

SectionDJambo


"You do wonder what on earth Hearts have done to deserve this feeling of ill will towards us. Or is it just a Scottish thing that somebody has to be punished?

I’ll say again, as others have many times, Scotland is the only European country that is contemplating relegating teams during this world wide crisis. Why is this?

What a narrow minded country Scotland is. It seems to be us and them, instead of we.

The whole football structure in Scotland could collapse, and all most of the clubs officials and fans are interested in is them being ok, for now. When things eventually get to the point of clubs going bust, there will be so much resentment in the air, that little genuine sympathy or support will be around."


They really can`t see the wood for the trees, can they - or are they just thick!

[The Harp Awakes]

I go onto sickback occasionally but always regret it. Full of numpties with nothing useful to say. Any semblance of common sense is crushed immediately. The fact that they are sitting with three failed managers on the payroll , a part finished hugely expensive stand and adrift in the league, worries them not a jot. Because they are great and Hibs are vermin.

They have missed their target for handover from QA and @***ed a whole load of fan cash down the drain. No sign of them learning from that. Good thing really.

Illusions of grandeur is the phrase that springs to mind when you read the posts on JK. They really are a wierd bunch who are blinkered by self-importance and a belief that their 'bigness' means Scottish football owes them a living.

Best ignored.

[weecounty hibby]

SectionDJambo


"You do wonder what on earth Hearts have done to deserve this feeling of ill will towards us. Or is it just a Scottish thing that somebody has to be punished?

I’ll say again, as others have many times, Scotland is the only European country that is contemplating relegating teams during this world wide crisis. Why is this?

What a narrow minded country Scotland is. It seems to be us and them, instead of we.

The whole football structure in Scotland could collapse, and all most of the clubs officials and fans are interested in is them being ok, for now. When things eventually get to the point of clubs going bust, there will be so much resentment in the air, that little genuine sympathy or support will be around."


They really can`t see the wood for the trees, can they - or are they just thick!
Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

[jacomo]

SectionDJambo


"You do wonder what on earth Hearts have done to deserve this feeling of ill will towards us. Or is it just a Scottish thing that somebody has to be punished?

I’ll say again, as others have many times, Scotland is the only European country that is contemplating relegating teams during this world wide crisis. Why is this?

What a narrow minded country Scotland is. It seems to be us and them, instead of we.

The whole football structure in Scotland could collapse, and all most of the clubs officials and fans are interested in is them being ok, for now. When things eventually get to the point of clubs going bust, there will be so much resentment in the air, that little genuine sympathy or support will be around."


They really can`t see the wood for the trees, can they - or are they just thick!


‘Scotland is the only European country contemplating relegation...’

Er nope, they all are mate.

The ‘ill will’ is due to Hearts and Budge acting like such bitter, sore losers, and blatantly promoting their own self-interest above all other concerns.

Isn’t that obvious?

[Tug Wilson]

SectionDJambo


"You do wonder what on earth Hearts have done to deserve this feeling of ill will towards us. Or is it just a Scottish thing that somebody has to be punished?

I’ll say again, as others have many times, Scotland is the only European country that is contemplating relegating teams during this world wide crisis. Why is this?

What a narrow minded country Scotland is. It seems to be us and them, instead of we.

The whole football structure in Scotland could collapse, and all most of the clubs officials and fans are interested in is them being ok, for now. When things eventually get to the point of clubs going bust, there will be so much resentment in the air, that little genuine sympathy or support will be around."


They really can`t see the wood for the trees, can they - or are they just thick!

Is it just Americans and Jambos that don't get irony?

Hearts are showing the greatest level of self interest out of all the clubs yet this muppet decries everyone else for only acting in self interest.

If Hearts are so financially secure as JKB seems to think then just take relegation and bounce straight back up.

If reconstruction is the way forward on a permanent basis then implement it for season 2021/22. That would potentially mean 3 up from the Championship in season 2020/21 thus increasing Hearts chances of coming straight back up.

To be honest, season 2020/21 is going to have to be adjusted to fit depending on when football restarts. Potentially fewer games. Easier to do with a 12 team league.

Elgin chairman has it spot on.

[Bostonhibby]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the mostMaybe he should take a look at some of the names on their creditors list, might give him a clue?

The folk wbose money they spent in pursuit of the illusion of success then bumped and walked away from without a backwards glance.

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[brog]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

You're rapidly becoming my fav poster. Great work!! :top marks

[Greenworld]

The only thing touching a nerve with me is their continued refusal to accept relegation with any grace or humility at all.

This from a club that promotes Save the Children on their shirts and uses a story of heroic self-sacrifice as its core brand-building myth. The irony is not lost on me.

The sooner they get relegated the better. No doubt their pathetic bleating will continue, but it will be easier to ignore.This 100%

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[Sammy7nil]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

:aok: :top marks

[GreenLake]

Is it just Americans and Jambos that don't get irony?

Hearts are showing the greatest level of self interest out of all the clubs yet this muppet decries everyone else for only acting in self interest.

If Hearts are so financially secure as JKB seems to think then just take relegation and bounce straight back up.

If reconstruction is the way forward on a permanent basis then implement it for season 2021/22. That would potentially mean 3 up from the Championship in season 2020/21 thus increasing Hearts chances of coming straight back up.

To be honest, season 2020/21 is going to have to be adjusted to fit depending on when football restarts. Potentially fewer games. Easier to do with a 12 team league.

Elgin chairman has it spot on.

Tbf they elected Trump. :greengrin

[Stanton Spence]

I see there's now a thread on keek back saying why do other fans hate us so much [emoji23] they really do want to be like their big cousins fae the west. Problem is they are just irrelevant and about to become an irrelevant championship side

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[NAE NOOKIE]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

Bang on. Outside of the Ugly sisters I would be pretty accurate in saying Hearts are the next most unpopular club with other supporters, based if nothing else on the number of non Hibs fans who have said that to me over the years .. Hearts miss that point because a lot of fans say Tynecastle has a good atmosphere and they like going there... liking the ground isn't the same as liking the club .... I mean, the first time I set foot in the new Ibrox my first thought was, F me, this is impressive.

Hearts are disliked for the reasons you have given, but without doubt the main one is their self inflated sense of their own importance as a club and their utter lack of humility when it comes to acknowledging their past indiscretions. I know I keep going back to it, but nothing illustrates that more than Budge failing to think about how calling for a one season league reconstruction would look ... How it looked was, its all about Hearts and not the good of the game in general ... it was typical Hearts arrogance not to factor in the feelings and sensitivities of other clubs and their fans before pontificating in their normal manner.

[HoboHarry]

Tbf they elected Trump. :greengrin
Hey now, we didn't all vote for Trump :greengrin

[mim]

SectionDJambo


"You do wonder what on earth Hearts have done to deserve this feeling of ill will towards us. Or is it just a Scottish thing that somebody has to be punished?

blah, blah


You can understand why he's been sectioned

[007]

I see there's now a thread on keek back saying why do other fans hate us so much [emoji23] they really do want to be like their big cousins fae the west. Problem is they are just irrelevant and about to become an irrelevant championship side

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So it's not just us then. It is our job to dislike them and vice versa, but when other clubs' fans from a neutral position dislike them too, it confirms our opinions aren't just coming from a biased perspective.

[007]

You can understand why he's been sectioned

😂🤣😂🤣

[Jdawg]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

Turns out their fans were correct. We are no longer their rivals as we are so many points ahead of them haha

[Tug Wilson]

I see there's now a thread on keek back saying why do other fans hate us so much [emoji23] they really do want to be like their big cousins fae the west. Problem is they are just irrelevant and about to become an irrelevant championship side

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On JKB they continually refer to other clubs as "tinpot" & "irrelevant" and hope that they go out of business.

And then they complain that other clubs supporters want to see them relegated and possibly go out of business.

2 + 2 seems a difficult sum for most of them.

[hibby6270]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

You forgot to mention McCrae’s Battalion being made up solely of Jambo players and supporters :rolleyes: and single handedly winning WW1. :wink:

[Phil MaGlass]

On JKB they continually refer to other clubs as "tinpot" & "irrelevant" and hope that they go out of business.

And then they complain that other clubs supporters want to see them relegated and possibly go out of business.

2 + 2 seems a difficult sum for most of them.


to be fair that happens on here aswell

[HibeesLittleHel]

I find it absurd that Annie Bananay (The Wee Tynae F***y) is spouting on about “Sporting Integrity” and “Righting Wrongs” in her bid to legitimise her clubs attempt to cling on to their SPL status.
If we were in agreement that sporting integrity was paramount in any resolution of the outcome of the 19/20 season the only acceptable outcome is Celtic champs & Hearts relegated because that’s the only outcome unfettered by self interest or prediction.
I am also keen for the Great Gonzo (sic AB) to elaborate on the wrongs that she needs righted. I’m struggling to find any that are not self inflicted:-
Poor leadership
Poor project management
Poor fiscal management
Poor grasp of grammar
Poor appointments
Blah blah 😑

[lapsedhibee]

So this Hibs are about to go bust thing. We've got no debts, own the ground and training centre, have a rich owner and cash in the bank. I struggle to see how you get there even invoking Jambo-logic?

Is it literally just a case of "aye but, youse are, so there"?

Tbf, it's difficult to mount a convincing economic case when you're only really familiar with the two numerals, 1 and 5.

Is it possible Kiwidug***** is an extraordinarily dedicated undercover Hibby? That's the only sense I can make of his, er, contributions.

[Kato]

I see there's now a thread on keek back saying why do other fans hate us so much [emoji23] they really do want to be like their big cousins fae the west. Problem is they are just irrelevant and about to become an irrelevant championship side

Sent from my G3121 using TapatalkTheres a gaping, toothless chasm where their self-awareness should be.

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[Sammy7nil]

Lack of understanding on KB

"Was thinking of starting a thread on this, I always get the feeling that outside the old firm we are the most hated club in Scotland. I would love to know why"

:greengrin

[Tug Wilson]

to be fair that happens on here aswell

I know and it annoys me. Strikes me as not Hibs class.

[Sammy7nil]

to be fair that happens on here aswell

It does but not by 90% of posters :aok:

[jacomo]

Lack of understanding on KB

"Was thinking of starting a thread on this, I always get the feeling that outside the old firm we are the most hated club in Scotland. I would love to know why"

:greengrin


Just a guess, but is it because they act like total to55ers most of the time?

[sean04]

I just suggested to my Jambo neighbour. If Ann budge feels reconstruction is a good thing then why not send hearts down and promote 3 teams. Stormed off 🎣

[Hibernianinc]

Every morning your average Poppy Thief follower will get up with a gnawing sickness in the pit of their stomach.

Are they relegated today, will there be clarity on what’s going to happen, what of restructure??? Each day a futile repeated and furious lashing out at all and any perceived enemy.

Whereas we Hibbies can speculate as to when our top-tier football will return, safely.

In the midst of this crisis, I think this is a good arrangement.

:agree:

[ACLeith]

I just suggested to my Jambo neighbour. If Ann budge feels reconstruction is a good thing then why not send hearts down and promote 3 teams. Stormed off 🎣

My neighbour’s a jambo as well. The only recent comment he has made was just after the vote when he said “we’re the worst team in the league, we finished bottom, we deserve relegation, just get on with it”

That’s why we can have both a sensible conversation and also good banter.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Hey now, we didn't all vote for Trump :greengrin

True but neither did you eradicate the trumo voters in thd traditional manner.😏

[Dashing Bob S]

There’s always been a ‘doubling down on stupidity’ aspect to much of the Hearts rivalry with Hibs. It originates in the ‘indigenous posh’ versus ‘upstart immigrants’ mentality, where superiority has to be maintained at all costs - even at the expense of the long term financial doping that’s driven them to this point. I think, in their heart of hearts, they know that their behavior down the years has been both morally wrong and ultimately self harmingly stupid. They literally have nowhere else to go but insanity.

[Greenworld]

Dutch football closed until september and lockdown until may 20th at least no mucking about there.

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[Waxy]

Dutch football closed until september and lockdown until may 20th at least no mucking about there.

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Thats a few countries put bans extended to another four or five months.These could be brought back nearer if things improve quicker than expected.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Thats a few countries put bans extended to another four or five months.These could be brought back nearer if things improve quicker than expected.

Not a chance of things being brought back. Once you commit to a date in a situation like this there is no going back. The dates set are best case scenario for future review and possible extension not worst case.

[The Count]

I was brought up to take responsibility for my actions.Now if Hearts followed this the fans and Budge should be honest and admit that they have been badly run by both on and off the park.It was not the virus/other scottish clubs,SPFL or the SFA that put them in there current league or financial position.Man/Woman up and take some responsibility for Gods sake.Fed up with this poor us attitude from them.

[Gloucester Hibs]

I was brought up to take responsibility for my actions.Now if Hearts followed this the fans and Budge should be honest and admit that they have been badly run by both on and off the park.It was not the virus/other scottish clubs,SPFL or the SFA that put them in there current league or financial position.Man/Woman up and take some responsibility for Gods sake.Fed up with this poor us attitude from them.

Gunts don’t do humility or grace or even irony. They’re going down kicking and screaming and it’s everyone else’s fault bar their own.

[Hibs4185]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

[southern hibby]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!


Please ( hand up just like in school ) let me answer that.


GGTTH

[KdyHby]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

How many months have they been bottom of the league?

[007]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

For triple points, name one Edinburgh football club playing in the Scottish Championship 2020/2021 season.

[Springbank]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

I phoned a friend, "Your Daniel" in Germany

Total waste of a lifeline

He said he hadn't heard of Hearts

[Joe6-2]

I phoned a friend, "Your Daniel" in Germany

Total waste of a lifeline

He said he hadn't heard of Hearts

😂😂

[Joe6-2]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

Bet they are dreading it, they have to know what’s coming!!

[jacomo]

How many months have they been bottom of the league?


Brilliant. If they are true fans they will know the answer.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

That's not fair ypu've given them time to Google the answer😉

[green day]

How many months have they been bottom of the league?

Did they not get off the bottom spot for a few days a month or so back?

Sorry..........

[Hibs1969]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

I’m struggling with this one big time.

Any chance of making it a multiple choice question?

[7-Zip_Mike]

Even a post like that from a clearly ****ed up moron is a big look at us, we are different, we are special, we are being picked on just for being hearts. Take a look at your history of the last 30 odd years ya total trumpet. Over spend after over spend after overspend culminating in doing over multiple small businesses, multiple charities including your own big hearts one and Haig Poppy fund, multiple government agencies like HMRC and NHS ambulance service, your own den mother's. All because you think you are the bigliest club ever and also not even being very successful during those 30 years.
There is also no end to the boasting about biggest and best stand (unfinished and 10m+ overspent) the most monitored pitch in the world costing 1m (a tattie field again) 400,000 fans (can't sell out a semi final in your own city) the big team (only the very insecure would call themselves that) the famous (see the big team) Hibs are no longer our rivals (hopefully next season you'll be right with that one!) Winning the European cup in 5 years, world cup winners. The list is endless of your delusional fantasies and is the main reason that most others clubs supporters in Scotland think you are fannies. And irrelevant mostly, bet that one hurts the most

You missed WW1 winners.

[BoomtownHibees]

My neighbour’s a jambo as well. The only recent comment he has made was just after the vote when he said “we’re the worst team in the league, we finished bottom, we deserve relegation, just get on with it”

That’s why we can have both a sensible conversation and also good banter.

My neighbour is also a Jambo. Haven’t seen him for 2 years. Hope he’s alright

[Oscar T Grouch]

I was brought up to take responsibility for my actions.Now if Hearts followed this the fans and Budge should be honest and admit that they have been badly run by both on and off the park.It was not the virus/other scottish clubs,SPFL or the SFA that put them in there current league or financial position.Man/Woman up and take some responsibility for Gods sake.Fed up with this poor us attitude from them.

They still think it’s St Mirren & Celtcs fault they lost the league title in ‘86 and not theirs for getting humped off Sir Albert on the final game of the season. They just didn’t see anything bad as their fault.

[munchar]

Doing a zoom quiz tonight with the in-laws, all of whom are yams. I’m in charge of the sport questions.

Question 1 - which Scottish football team currently sits at the bottom of the SPFL premier league?

Can’t wait!

Is it St. Mirren? Alphabetically, now that Hearts are a Championship side!

[Onceinawhile]

Dutch football closed until september and lockdown until may 20th at least no mucking about there.

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Aye, but the Dutch were mucking about to start with iirc. I think we might have even done better than them at the start of all this.

[JimBHibees]

According to KB The auld Bat is running The country with Nicola, this all because The FM went to Tynecastle years ago to publicise the living wage.

"I think I am right in saying that Nicola Sturgeon and Ann Budge know each other on a some level. How buddy buddy they are I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if there has been a phone call between them in the last 6 weeks. Not for favours or anything underhand of course, but she may have asked a timescale question or 2"

I think the FM may have other things on her mind rather than chatting with Queen Anne when this https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ann-budge-acting-hearts-self-21897432

Is the publicity she is getting :greengrin

They will go into even more meltdown when they hear the First Ministers hubby is a Hibby. :greengrin

[erin go bragh]

This a is cracker from keek back



In season 2014-15, Blackpool v Huddersfield was abandoned. They could not get the rescheduled game played before the completion of the season so the EFL awarded the match a score line of 0-0 and both teams got a point.

This is something we should consider for all of the outstanding league fixtures this season. A point per game is more than we are currently averaging (0.8 points per game) and would get us up to 31 points. It gives us a chance at least.


😂😂😂😂

[04Sauzee]

This a is cracker from keek back



In season 2014-15, Blackpool v Huddersfield was abandoned. They could not get the rescheduled game played before the completion of the season so the EFL awarded the match a score line of 0-0 and both teams got a point.

This is something we should consider for all of the outstanding league fixtures this season. A point per game is more than we are currently averaging (0.8 points per game) and would get us up to 31 points. It gives us a chance at least.


😂😂😂😂

Has to be a Hibee at the wind up surely? They can't bw that thick can they?

[weecounty hibby]

Has to be a Hibee at the wind up surely? They can't bw that thick can they?

I think you underestimate the moronic stupidity of your average tart. He/she will have had the socks and shoes off as well as using all 12 fingers to work that out. The only thing lower than their points total this season is their average IQ. Fuds

[Gloucester Hibs]

Has to be a Hibee at the wind up surely? They can't bw that thick can they?

Was thinking the same! Either way it’s funny mind you 😂

[Ozyhibby]

This a is cracker from keek back



In season 2014-15, Blackpool v Huddersfield was abandoned. They could not get the rescheduled game played before the completion of the season so the EFL awarded the match a score line of 0-0 and both teams got a point.

This is something we should consider for all of the outstanding league fixtures this season. A point per game is more than we are currently averaging (0.8 points per game) and would get us up to 31 points. It gives us a chance at least.


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It’s hard to dislike them when they can make you smile.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Sammy7nil]

Has to be a Hibee at the wind up surely? They can't bw that thick can they?

I think the guy only had about 30 posts so definitely a Hibby. The funny things they took him seriously :greengrin

[AltheHibby]

This a is cracker from keek back



In season 2014-15, Blackpool v Huddersfield was abandoned. They could not get the rescheduled game played before the completion of the season so the EFL awarded the match a score line of 0-0 and both teams got a point.

This is something we should consider for all of the outstanding league fixtures this season. A point per game is more than we are currently averaging (0.8 points per game) and would get us up to 31 points. It gives us a chance at least.


😂😂😂😂

Which thread is that on? I just have to look.