The generic Hearts thread

[Hibbyradge]

Any fule kno that Sparryheids or Puddledrinkers are the correct nomenclatures for them

Windy Lickers

[Since452]

Any fule kno that Sparryheids or Puddledrinkers are the correct nomenclatures for them

Maybe the Hearts fans could just drink the standing water in order to get the game played

[degenerated]

Windy Lickers

aye, that works :aok:

[degenerated]

Maybe the Hearts fans could just drink the standing water in order to get the game played


Genius idea :greengrin

[Tobias Funke]

‘The Duncans’ is even worse patter than Yams I’m afraid.

Sc*mbos, Sharts or Gorgoyles only please and thank you.

This!

[bingo70]

If it's off then it means Stendel is still in the dug out for the Cup Tie v Rangers, then there are only 3 days til the derby.

So, from a Hibs point of view, we will be playing on 3 March against the bumbling Geggenpress (and acres of space for Scott Allan to thread passes to Boyle & McNulty)
OR
We have Hearts with a fourth manager of the season (Levein, MacPhee, Stendel & whoever they get to replace him for the derby)

Happy with that:aok:

Unless they replay it tomorrow?

Precedent set with the Rangers Livi game last week.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

‘The Duncans’ is even worse patter than Yams I’m afraid.

Sc*mbos, Sharts or Gorgoyles only please and thank you.

I've never heard of the last 2 before in my life.

[Hibs4185]

Maybe the Hearts fans could just drink the standing water in order to get the game played

Tell Stendel it’s vodka and he’ll soon have it cleared

[Springbank]

Unless they replay it tomorrow?

Precedent set with the Rangers Livi game last week.

As long as Hamilton beat Motherwell, which would put Hearts under even more pressure, I don't mind. :agree:
A Hamilton/St Mirren double might be the end of Our Daniel, that's the only concern

[CloudSquall]

A call off as close as possible to kick off please to ensure maximum Jambo disruption.

[Moulin Yarns]

A call off as close as possible to kick off please to ensure maximum Jambo disruption.

I heard the pitch inspection is due for 3:30

[bawheid]

Merricks or puddledrinkers for me. Was sparryheids from an Irvine Welsh book?

[The 90+2]

Merricks or puddledrinkers for me. Was sparryheids from an Irvine Welsh book?


:agree: Acid house.

[bingo70]

Merricks or puddledrinkers for me. Was sparryheids from an Irvine Welsh book?

Hearts *******s for me.

Cringe when I hear the term Duncan’s and didn’t find the sketch that started it funny in the slightest but each time their own, who am I to decide what’s funny or not or what people should call the hearts *******s, it’s up to them.

[Billy Whizz]

Paisley just now apparently.
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Annual bath day in Paisley today

[SHODAN]

I find the whole concept of derogatory nicknames for rival teams pretty cringeworthy to be honest. "Yam" is the absolute worst because it's only used on here and if you used that term at ER no one would have the faintest idea what you were talking about.

[green day]

https://twitter.com/laurabrown1877/status/1230852072041598976?s=20

[Since452]

Hearts should just forfeit the game for the safety of their fans and take the 3-0 defeat. Would be a cracking result for them

[Bostonhibby]

Hearts should just forfeit the game for the safety of their fans and take the 3-0 defeat. Would be a cracking result for them[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[The 90+2]

Hearts should just forfeit the game for the safety of their fans and take the 3-0 defeat. Would be a cracking result for them

I would rather it was game on, stuck in traffic in the pissing rain and wind for hours, get pumped on tv keeping them rooted to the bottom and a ***** journey back to Gorgie.

[Since452]

I would rather it was game on, stuck in traffic in the pissing rain and wind for hours, get pumped on tv keeping them rooted to the bottom and a ***** journey back to Gorgie.

Sounds magnificent

[JohnM1875]

Game off. Annoying.

[Kojock]

Game off. Annoying.

Keeps them bottom of the league tho 😆

[The 90+2]

Keeps them bottom of the league tho 😆

Hamilton win or draw tomorrow please.

[Since452]

Hahaha pink flumps. Creaming themselves at St Mirren going to extra time on Tuesday

[G B Young]

Game off. Annoying.

Depends which way you look at it. Yes it would have been great to see them get beat tonight, or even grind out a turgid draw, but on the off chance they had capitalised on a leg-weary St Mirren and sneaked a win it would have given them some impetus to start pulling clear of the drop zone.

However, with St Mirren already facing Motherwell next midweek it presumably means the yams' next game will be the cup tie against the huns which they'll go into without any sort of morale-boosting form behind them. With a bit of luck they'll get sent crashing out the cup and see spirits sink even further. Yes, I know it would probably be better from a Hibs perspective to have the huns out the cup, but in terms of sending the yams down I'd suggest we need to see the misery piled on for them.

[jacomo]

I find the whole concept of derogatory nicknames for rival teams pretty cringeworthy to be honest. "Yam" is the absolute worst because it's only used on here and if you used that term at ER no one would have the faintest idea what you were talking about.


That doesn’t make it bad, it just makes it specific

[The 90+2]

Depends which way you look at it. Yes it would have been great to see them get beat tonight, or even grind out a turgid draw, but on the off chance they had capitalised on a leg-weary St Mirren and sneaked a win it would have given them some impetus to start pulling clear of the drop zone.

However, with St Mirren already facing Motherwell next midweek it means the yams' next game will be the cup tie against the huns which they'll go into without any sort of morale-boosting form behind them. With a bit of luck they'll get sent crashing out the cup and see spirits sink even further. Yes, I know it would probably be better from a Hibs perspective to have the huns out the cup, but in terms of sending the yams down I'd suggest we need to see the misery piled on for them. An ideal scenario for me would be to have the St Mirren game rescheduled for the midweek following the cup game and for a demoralised Hearts to slump to defeat in Paisley.

Aren’t we playing them the midweek after the cup game? Apart from that you’ve got sound logic 😁

[G B Young]

Aren’t we playing them the midweek after the cup game? Apart from that you’ve got sound logic 😁

Yeh, I realised that after I posted and deleted that bit but you were too quick for me :wink:

Even better perhaps to see them crash out the cup and follow it up with a derby defeat :greengrin

[Carheenlea]

Win tomorrow and we go 20 (twenty) points ahead of them

[Hibs90]

Play it tomorrow? :wink:

[Moulin Yarns]

Play it tomorrow? :wink:

That's at least the third time that has been suggested.

[500miles]

Hopefully that's the start of a fixture pile up in time for the derby.....

[Real Emerald]

A winter break and a league split is asking for trouble with fixtures. The governing bodies of Scottish football have no limits on messing things up!

[Spike Mandela]

Great idea having a winter shutdown.

[Since452]

20 points above the tramps tomorrow then

[Bobby's Cinema]

Imagine Hamilton win tomorrow, and next time they trot out they are skelped in the derby. Is there any coming back from that?

[G B Young]

Play it tomorrow? :wink:

The forecast as well as the state of the pitch was a factor in the call-off and the weather's due to get worse tonight so they won't consider that.

[Jones28]

Game off. Annoying.

Doesn’t that mean their next (r)outing in the league is against us?

[Kojock]

Doesn’t that mean their next (r)outing in the league is against us?

Yes, St Mirren play Well next midweek so it can’t be rescheduled for then Hear7s next game is Sevco in the cup then us.

[Frazerbob]

With tonight’s match postponed, it will now be over a year since Hearts last league win outside of Edinburgh (9th March 2019 at Dens).

[JXM73]

Hope they somehow draw with the huns, add another game in there...

[Cataplana]

With tonight’s match postponed, it will now be over a year since Hearts last win outside of Edinburgh (9th March 2019 at Dens).

A postponed game is the last thing you want when you are fighting relegation. The omens are looking gloomier with each week that passes.

[Jones28]

Hope they somehow draw with the huns, add another game in there...

Part of me thinks that would be good, but another part of me says nah, they’ve to get an absolute pumping in preparation for the Derby.

[Since452]

Part of me thinks that would be good, but another part of me says nah, they’ve to get an absolute pumping in preparation for the Derby.

I remember the huns beating us 7-0 then we won the derby a few days later. I'd rather they had the fixture pile up.

[Golden Bear]

Great idea having a winter shutdown.

:agree:

Another example of the folly of the present arrangements.

[Hermit Crab]

Their cup game is on general sale. Check the amount of tickets available. At least 80% of the home section unsold at the moment.

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/EDP/Event/Index/1548

[Radium]

https://twitter.com/laurabrown1877/status/1230852072041598976?s=21

Hadn’t realised how bad it is in some areas,


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[Jack Hackett]

:agree:

Another example of the folly of the present arrangements.

A winter shutdown should be a winter shutdown, not a 2 week break at the same time every year, which we all know is when the worst weather always happens... every year, without fail :rolleyes:

[Since90+2]

Their cup game is on general sale. Check the amount of tickets available. At least 80% of the home section unsold at the moment.

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/EDP/Event/Index/1548

Big club.

[EI255]

That postponement today is good for St Mirren and not so good for Hearts.

St Mirren has a punishing game Inc ET and pens only on Tuesday and would have been leggy. Hearts will be gutted as that was an opportunity to play a team who would be worn out.

Hearts pain continues [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]



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[Hermit Crab]

That postponement today is good for St Mirren and not so good for Hearts.

St Mirren has a punishing game Inc ET and pens only on Tuesday and would have been leggy. Hearts will be gutted as that was an opportunity to play a team who would be worn out.

Hearts pain continues [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]



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It benefits Hearts as well as it give Boyce a chance to recover from his illness.

[A Hi-Bee]

As it says above they are still irellevant

[hfc rd]

It benefits Hearts as well as it give Boyce a chance to recover from his illness.


Hearts would have wanted the game played tonight more than St Mirren. Especially with Saints having played 120 minutes of football about 3 days ago. Couldn’t have asked for a better chance to get off the bottom of the table against a team that won’t be as fresh as them.

[007]

Hard to say which of them the postponement suits more. St Mirren played 120 minutes on Tuesday however supposedly Boyce was set to miss tonight's game. They might now end up with a fixture backlog however, like all clubs, they've been playing quite a few matches lately so the rest might do them good.

St Mirren probably need a rest more due to playing on Tuesday and are due to play Motherwell again next Tuesday. Hearts however will play their next match on the 29th which is 2 weeks after their last one. Sometimes a 2 week break can be too long.

Reckon they'll play it on 11th March.

Also, a Hamilton win tomorrow will put Hearts 3 points adrift of 2nd bottom and 8 goals worse off.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Cannot believe rhe authorities called their match off tonight. Did they not factor in the effect of 1500 puddle drinkers on any localised flooding?

[Keith_M]

I've got a feeling our game is going to be cancelled tomorrow.

[Ozyhibby]

Their cup game is on general sale. Check the amount of tickets available. At least 80% of the home section unsold at the moment.

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/EDP/Event/Index/1548

£30 a ticket, not surprised.


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[calumhibee1]

Cannot believe rhe authorities called their match off tonight. Did they not factor in the effect of 1500 puddle drinkers on any localised flooding?

:greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

I think the cancellation hurts Hearts more. They now definitely go into March bottom of the league with their next two games Hibs away and then Motherwell.


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[calumhibee1]

I've got a feeling our game is going to be cancelled tomorrow.

Is this a joke about the fact a thread always gets started asking if it’s going to be cancelled? There’s no way our game will be off.

[Smartie]

https://twitter.com/laurabrown1877/status/1230852072041598976?s=21

Hadn’t realised how bad it is in some areas,


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Aye, Paisley’s grim.

The weather doesn’t look too great either.

[mjhibby]

Is this a joke about the fact a thread always gets started asking if it’s going to be cancelled? There’s no way our game will be off.

Unlikely to be off but weather is meant to be awful from six in the morning till our game is just about finished. Plus winds of up to 50 mph. Won't be easy for both teams and not pleasant watching the game. Meant to be much better on Sunday.

[CloudSquall]

Does anyone seriously believe Boyce was due to miss tonight?

What he's got is a severe case of the De Vries virus (first discovered by Levein) which has him most definitely 100% out of every single must win game only to make a miraculous recovery for each and every one of them 5 minutes before kick off.

[Ronniekirk]

I think the cancellation hurts Hearts more. They now definitely go into March bottom of the league with their next two games Hibs away and then Motherwell.


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No doubt they will now spend thier time in Training sessions coming up with a system of play specifically designed to try and beat us


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[Joe6-2]

It benefits Hearts as well as it give Boyce a chance to recover from his illness.

Oh yeah, right 😉

[Since452]

Does anyone seriously believe Boyce was due to miss tonight?

What he's got is a severe case of the De Vries virus (first discovered by Levein) which has him most definitely 100% out of every single must win game only to make a miraculous recovery for each and every one of them 5 minutes before kick off.

Not a chance. He'd have played alright

[WoreTheGreen]

What other club tries this our top players are injured or bug is widespread in the squad pathetic really

[Onceinawhile]

With tonight’s match postponed, it will now be over a year since Hearts last league win outside of Edinburgh (9th March 2019 at Dens).

Leith is outside of Edinburgh Imo.

[660]

Leith is outside of Edinburgh Imo.

Agreed. I been waiting for a leith independence movement for a while tbqh

[CentreLine]

What other club tries this our top players are injured or bug is widespread in the squad pathetic really

Dundee United, oddly enough, just before our last cup replay 😏

[The 90+2]

Does anyone seriously believe Boyce was due to miss tonight?

What he's got is a severe case of the De Vries virus (first discovered by Levein) which has him most definitely 100% out of every single must win game only to make a miraculous recovery for each and every one of them 5 minutes before kick off.

The same was said before the Hamilton game, that him and Maldini hadnt trained and defo’ our. Both started.

[Frankhfc]

Boyce looks as slow as a week in the proverbial.

I wouldn't swap any of our front men for that carthorse no danger.

[FilipinoHibs]

Two good things about the postponement : ST Mirren get to rest and Hearts are rock bottom for another week.

Hopefully, a third one tonight; the gap is 20 points.

[Springbank]

A Hamilton win today would fairly ratchet the pressure onto hearts for whenever they play the rearranged game with st mirren

[CapitalGreen]

Boyce looks as slow as a week in the proverbial.

I wouldn't swap any of our front men for that carthorse no danger.

Now not scored in over 7 hours of football.

[Since452]

Now not scored in over 7 hours of football.

6k per week well spent

[FilipinoHibs]

6k per week well spent

Certainly from a Hibs standpoint.

[GreenCastle]

The Derby is now a must win for them - not saying we won’t attack and try and win but they simply have to win games to move away from the bottom of table.

A draw suits us better than them but also a missed opportunity for us to deny them points and make up for the farce of the last Hecky home derby.

After we play them it will be 10 games left. Hopefully Hamilton win today so the gap is 4 points then pressure increases even more.

Can see a quite open game which I think will suit us.

[B.H.F.C]

The Derby is now a must win for them - not saying we won’t attack and try and win but they simply have to win games to move away from the bottom of table.

A draw suits us better than them but also a missed opportunity for us to deny them points and make up for the farce of the last Hecky home derby.

After we play them it will be 10 games left. Hopefully Hamilton win today so the gap is 4 points then pressure increases even more.

Can see a quite open game which I think will suit us.

A draw doesn’t suit us in the slightest. We’re chasing a European place and need to win. We’re playing the team bottom of the league, at home, and should win.

Them being further adrift with less games to go will be a nice bonus, but it’s the least important thing about the game from our point of view.

[Callum_62]

Watching the highlights of the Hamilton game last night, there high line was unbelievable

Can see Boyle and McNulty getting success there if we can get Allan on the ball

Hamilton boy was pretty unlucky to be sent off too

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[Greenworld]

The Derby is now a must win for them - not saying we won’t attack and try and win but they simply have to win games to move away from the bottom of table.

A draw suits us better than them but also a missed opportunity for us to deny them points and make up for the farce of the last Hecky home derby.

After we play them it will be 10 games left. Hopefully Hamilton win today so the gap is 4 points then pressure increases even more.

Can see a quite open game which I think will suit us.A Draw would be massiy dissapointing forget that its hearts we want three points from any teams at the bottom of the league member the further up the league the more money for the club and possible Euro spot

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[Eyrie]

Two good things about the postponement : ST Mirren get to rest and Hearts are rock bottom for another week.

Hopefully, a third one tonight; the gap is 20 points.

I think you mean four points to Hamilton.

The gap between us and them is amusing but hardly relevant to either Hibs chasing Europe or Hearts seeking to reach the possible safety of the relegation play off spot.

[Causewayside PR]

Anyone know when St Mirren v Hearts game is (likely) to be replayed? I am guessing not this weekend with a water logged pitch

[Jack Hackett]

Anyone know when St Mirren v Hearts game is (likely) to be replayed? I am guessing not this weekend with a water logged pitch

Earliest possible midweek game would be between 7th-14th March

[Since90+2]

Earliest possible midweek game would be between 7th-14th March

If Hearts or St Mirren draw their cup tie replays would be played that midweek.

[hfc rd]

If Hearts or St Mirren draw their cup tie replays would be played that midweek.

At the same time, if Rangers progress bast Braga then the next round of the EL will be played that midweek.

Just begs the question, what was that winter break all about as it’s going to be a massive fixture pile-up from now until the split.

[007]

Earliest possible midweek game would be between 7th-14th March

Was said on Sportsound that midweek has to be kept free in case the cup game goes to a replay so I imagine they'll wait and see if it does before rescheduling the game v Hearts.

[jgl07]

I didn’t realise Robinson’s tenure was so quick and so disastrous.

Robinson and Deans took over in 1994.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Another milestone moment yesterday for the deluded of Tinycastle. A few weeks ago their conviction that St.Endall would have them racing up the league to challenge for Europe evaporated.

Their next delusional target was to make the top 6 and in the process over take us. Yesterday that delusion was shattered as our points total now makes it impossible for them to make the top 6 and as a consequence we cannot be caught by them before the split. I'll mourn the passing of the 4th derby even though the 3rd has not yet been played

Their next delusional target is making 10th place yet Ross County's win and St.Midden's gd appear to make even this simple task appear a mountain rather than a mole hill to climb.

As the often are wont to say over on Keekback...we live in "pleasing" times.

[G B Young]

Another milestone moment yesterday for the deluded of Tinycastle. A few weeks ago their conviction that St.Endall would have them racing up the league to challenge for Europe evaporated.

Their next delusional target was to make the top 6 and in the process over take us. Yesterday that delusion was shattered as our points total now makes it impossible for them to make the top 6 and as a consequence we can be caught by them before the split. I'll mourn the passing of the 4th derby even though the 3rd has not yet been played

Their next delusional target is making 10th place yet Ross County's win and St.Midden's gd appear to make even this simple task appear a mountain rather than a mole hill to climb.

As the often are wont to say over on Keekback...we live in "pleasing" times.

We've not officially secured a top six spot yet (though defeats for Killie and St J today would put us in a strong position) so there could yet be a fourth derby. But yes, the breezy claims after beating the huns that they would finish above us now look absurd.

On another tack it's interesting to note that Berra seems to be getting rave reviews at Dundee. Kicking him out could prove to have been an error of judgement by Stendel.

[GreenCastle]

We've not officially secured a top six spot yet (though defeats for Killie and St J today would put us in a strong position) so there could yet be a fourth derby. But yes, the breezy claims after beating the huns that they would finish above us now look absurd.

On another tack it's interesting to note that Berra seems to be getting rave reviews at Dundee. Kicking him out could prove to have been an error of judgement by Stendel.

Dundee v Hearts in a playoff possibly ??

Berra wouldn’t play surely ???

[Bostonhibby]

Another milestone moment yesterday for the deluded of Tinycastle. A few weeks ago their conviction that St.Endall would have them racing up the league to challenge for Europe evaporated.

Their next delusional target was to make the top 6 and in the process over take us. Yesterday that delusion was shattered as our points total now makes it impossible for them to make the top 6 and as a consequence we can be caught by them before the split. I'll mourn the passing of the 4th derby even though the 3rd has not yet been played

Their next delusional target is making 10th place yet Ross County's win and St.Midden's gd appear to make even this simple task appear a mountain rather than a mole hill to climb.

As the often are wont to say over on Keekback...we live in "pleasing" times.We live in "pleasing" times.

As their spending continues to rise and the megastand's completion date disappears even further over the horizon the level of their post Romanov aspirations is frequently and rapidly downward.

We'll soon see them congratulating each other on achieving 11th place or swiftly celebrating the chance to get Desperate Dan a winning run going in the Championship before settling for a play off party and the return of Craig Levein.

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[calumhibee1]

Dundee v Hearts in a playoff possibly ??

Berra wouldn’t play surely ???

Is he not signed permanently for Dundee?

Edit: just checked; he’s on loan.

[FilipinoHibs]

Is he not signed permanently for Dundee?

Edit: just checked; he’s on loan.

Maybe not in the contract as in different leagues, currently.

[Kato]

Is he not signed permanently for Dundee?

Edit: just checked; he’s on loan.Qqa

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[147lothian]

We've not officially secured a top six spot yet (though defeats for Killie and St J today would put us in a strong position) so there could yet be a fourth derby. But yes, the breezy claims after beating the huns that they would finish above us now look absurd.

On another tack it's interesting to note that Berra seems to be getting rave reviews at Dundee. Kicking him out could prove to have been an error of judgement by Stendel.

Kickick Berra out was indeed an error of judgement by Stendel, Berra was there top goal scorrer with three at the time, ok it was three own goals but it is the yams your talking about

[G B Young]

Kickick Berra out was indeed an error of judgement by Stendel, Berra was there top goal scorrer with three at the time, ok it was three own goals but it is the yams your talking about

I also note Jordon Forster scored the winner for Dundee yesterday. I'd all but forgotten about him but used to like him as a player for us. Not a bad Championship defence with him and Berra as part of it.

[Seveno]

A thread on KB about HoF/ Sporting Director is almost wholly critical of Dr Mrs. Also debating whether the job will go to Levein or McPhee. Reality is slowly setting in. One poster said the decision was being put off as the role would be a luxury they could not afford in the Champioship.

[hibbyfraelibby]

A thread on KB about HoF/ Sporting Director is almost wholly critical of Dr Mrs. Also debating whether the job will go to Levein or McPhee. Reality is slowly setting in. One poster said the decision was being put off as the role would be a luxury they could not afford in the Champioship.

I believe they are head hunting a Sporting Director of PT Directors of Football...

[Bostonhibby]

A thread on KB about HoF/ Sporting Director is almost wholly critical of Dr Mrs. Also debating whether the job will go to Levein or McPhee. Reality is slowly setting in. One poster said the decision was being put off as the role would be a luxury they could not afford in the Champioship.Think what will happen when they work out that Desperate Dan is just a German Father Jack Hackett is they'll make him Director of Championship football alongside all the other sporting directors, directors of football, full and part time that they keep in the bunker.

They'll then splash out more fans donations on another visionary who will last for a couple of months.

Rewind, repeat.....

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[Gloucester Hibs]

Wonder if they’ll shift all their tickets for the derby..

[Jack Hackett]

Think what will happen when they work out that Desperate Dan is just a German Father Jack Hackett is they'll make him Director of Championship football alongside all the other sporting directors, directors of football, full and part time that they keep in the bunker.

They'll then splash out more fans donations on another visionary who will last for a couple of months.

Rewind, repeat.....

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Just?

JUST?

23036

[Since452]

It wouldn't surprise me if the best Rangers on Saturday

[WoreTheGreen]

Just?

JUST?

23036

That’s how many wins

[Bostonhibby]

Just?

JUST?

23036Realised what I'd done as soon as I said it[emoji16]

Apologies.

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[Jack Hackett]

That’s how many wins

Good spot :greengrin


Realised what I'd done as soon as I said it[emoji16]

Apologies.

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:aok:

[WoreTheGreen]

Does he sit in the press box

[jonty]

Does he sit in the press box

I believe thats where he showers

[JohnMcM]

It wouldn't surprise me if the best Rangers on Saturday

Please make it so:greengrin

Little Brothers ending Big Brother's season would be, as they say in the Pink Place,,,,,,,,,,,,pleasing!
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[Hibs4185]

They have a thread on KB about St Johnstone and their chairman saying they are going to post heavy losses this year due to having the sixth biggest budget in Scotland.

Someone asked about FFP and someone else wants a 15 point deduction for their over spending.

They really don’t get the irony

[jacomo]

They have a thread on KB about St Johnstone and their chairman saying they are going to post heavy losses this year due to having the sixth biggest budget in Scotland.

Someone asked about FFP and someone else wants a 15 point deduction for their over spending.

They really don’t get the irony


15 point deductions are for clubs that go into administration.

Except Hearts, who should get 25 points as they went into admin before.

[Since452]

They have a thread on KB about St Johnstone and their chairman saying they are going to post heavy losses this year due to having the sixth biggest budget in Scotland.

Someone asked about FFP and someone else wants a 15 point deduction for their over spending.

They really don’t get the irony

Just think. If we wet in to adminstration we'd still be above those tramps

[Ozyhibby]

15 point deductions are for clubs that go into administration.

Except Hearts, who should get 25 points as they went into admin before.

More than 5 year ago. They would get 15.


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[007]

They have a thread on KB about St Johnstone and their chairman saying they are going to post heavy losses this year due to having the sixth biggest budget in Scotland.

Someone asked about FFP and someone else wants a 15 point deduction for their over spending.

They really don’t get the irony

The chairman also said they had reserves which they had dipped into in a big way. No amounts were mentioned so we don't know whether or not they've used all the reserves and borrowed anything.

[jacomo]

More than 5 year ago. They would get 15.


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I stand corrected.

But Jambos really have no right to criticise other clubs for losing money.

St Johnstone are covering the losses themselves, as any decent and respectable business would (not Hearts).

[Bostonhibby]

They have a thread on KB about St Johnstone and their chairman saying they are going to post heavy losses this year due to having the sixth biggest budget in Scotland.

Someone asked about FFP and someone else wants a 15 point deduction for their over spending.

They really don’t get the ironyWouldn't it be simpler to understand over in Duncanland if they just gave a 15 point deduction to everyone whose beaten Hearts?

It's an injustice it is.

Getting desperate now.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


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[Cataplana]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


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Is "new owner" a euphemism for mug? One thing that is highly amusing about the Yams is how they fawn at the feet of any new leader, only to revise that opinion when they fail to meet their mentalist ambitions.

There is something very serf like about the way they use terms like "Queen", or "emperor" to describe someone who is ripping them off.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


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It's an oddly low number of votes for quite an important issue.

[Bostonhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDoes look that way, I'm surprised they called it a super majority though, surely a big or famous majority is more appropriate/ reflective of their self image.

Looking for another Romanov type figure to worship potentially, didn't think anything could be funnier than a natural progression from Mrs doctor Budge to management by a committee of fans but they just keep on giving[emoji16]

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[Cataplana]

Does look that way, I'm surprised they called it a super majority though, surely a big or famous majority is more appropriate/ reflective of their self image.

Looking for another Romanov type figure to worship potentially, didn't think anything could be funnier than a natural progression from Mrs doctor Budge to management by a committee of fans but they just keep on giving[emoji16]

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The fans committee will be the last chapter in this history of this famous, but very misunderstood club.

[jacomo]

Is "new owner" a euphemism for mug? One thing that is highly amusing about the Yams is how they fawn at the feet of any new leader, only to revise that opinion when they fail to meet their mentalist ambitions.

There is something very serf like about the way they use terms like "Queen", or "emperor" to describe someone who is ripping them off.


I think they are hoping for a muggle - a very wealthy one.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


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So if my maths is right

That means they have just under 5,628 members.
How many HSL? I appreciate different circumstances and note the “flaw of averages”

Edit : 2400 members according to HSL website.

[Ozyhibby]

So if my maths is right

That means they have just under 5,628 members.
How many HSL? I appreciate different circumstances and note the “flaw of averages”

Edit : 2400 members according to HSL website.

Over 7000 members.


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[Cataplana]

I think they are hoping for a muggle - a very wealthy one.

They will be kicking pointed hats down the road by the end of the year.

[007]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


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Didn't even reach 75% and they're changing it. Wonder if they said before the poll what percentage was needed for change or have they just hoodwinked everybody that was against it.

Maybe Budge has had a nice wee offer and wants to cash in.

Does anyone know how much she put in, how much she got back and what percentage she now owns? I thought she put in £2.5m, got it all back (or no less than £2.4m) but still has about 24.9% of the shares but surely that can't be right. Plus did she not get about 6.5% interest which okay she waived for a year or two and she might have done the CEO job without a salary. Not even sure they got value for money there.

[04Sauzee]

Not sure how our ticket sales are looking for the ICT game on Friday night but according to a Hearts fan at my work he reckons Hearts have sold around 6K tickets for their game against The Rangers

[SHODAN]

It wouldn't surprise me if the best Rangers on Saturday

If the best Rangers on Saturday what? I need to know!!

[JeMeSouviens]

Not sure how our ticket sales are looking for the ICT game on Friday night but according to a Hearts fan at my work he reckons Hearts have sold around 6K tickets for their game against The Rangers

Not especially good ...

Tue 25 Feb 12:58:52 GMT 2020
West
3538 not for sale
2459 available

FF
1490 not for sale
2311 available

East
2857 not for sale
3460 available

South
3949 not for sale
0 available


Total
11906 not for sale
8230 available

[green day]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/780d6c1939e9217ad9d351788c523f0f.jpg

Looks like their super majority of 90% was meaningless as it only takes a majority of 73% to change it. Also looks like the FOH are looking at ways to bring in a new owner.


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So roughly 15% of the 7000 FoH membership have allowed the FoH board to effect quite a major change, and one that they were all convinced was never, ever, ever, happening again..................

[hibbyfraelibby]

Not especially good ...

Tue 25 Feb 12:58:52 GMT 2020
West
3538 not for sale
2459 available

FF
1490 not for sale
2311 available

East
2857 not for sale
3460 available

South
3949 not for sale
0 available


Total
11906 not for sale
8230 available

So ticket sales for the home ends are running around the 12k mark. About the same actual numbers, if not more, who attended at the weekend against Livi. Huge swathes of the East were empty on saturday and there was no way 16k were in the stadium.

We have c13k ST Holders so it looks like STs have been 90% taken up. Not bad for a Friday night game live on the box against lower league opposition.

[Hibby70]

So ticket sales for the home ends are running around the 12k mark. About the same actual numbers, if not more, who attended at the weekend against Livi. Huge swathes of the East were empty on saturday and there was no way 16k were in the stadium.

We have c13k ST Holders so it looks like STs have been 90% taken up. Not bad for a Friday night game live on the box against lower league opposition.
I think we've only sold 8k

[Green_one]

So ticket sales for the home ends are running around the 12k mark. About the same actual numbers, if not more, who attended at the weekend against Livi. Huge swathes of the East were empty on saturday and there was no way 16k were in the stadium.

We have c13k ST Holders so it looks like STs have been 90% taken up. Not bad for a Friday night game live on the box against lower league opposition.

I am firing you as my accountant. You have apparently also not noticed where ST holders sit at ER.

Arithmetic - must try harder :greengrin

[Peevemor]

I am firing you as my accountant. You have apparently also not noticed where ST holders sit at ER.

Arithmetic - must try harder :greengrin

Don't you know - we've kept the South for the singing section.

It sold out straight away.

[B.H.F.C]

So ticket sales for the home ends are running around the 12k mark. About the same actual numbers, if not more, who attended at the weekend against Livi. Huge swathes of the East were empty on saturday and there was no way 16k were in the stadium.

We have c13k ST Holders so it looks like STs have been 90% taken up. Not bad for a Friday night game live on the box against lower league opposition.

Na, that includes nearly 4K not for sale for the south as well.

8k sold, tops. Probably a bit less than that as some of the seats won’t have been released for sale at the end of the east etc.

[Steven79]

For the amount of fans that have purchased seats in the FFL we may as well put them in one section right in the middle rather than leaving them with 3 or 4 seats each spread about.

[Peevemor]

For the amount of fans that have purchased seats in the FFL we may as well put them in one section right in the middle rather than leaving them with 3 or 4 seats each spread about.

There aren't that many unsold seats.

[Steven79]

There aren't that many unsold seats.

We are talking about the game on Friday.

Look how many seats have been sold for the Famous Five Lower...

[Hibbyradge]

We are talking about the game on Friday.

Look how many seats have been sold for the Famous Five Lower...

He's referring to Friday night.

[Hibby70]

West Stand - 59%
East Stand - 45%
Famous Five - 39%

So assuming that ST coverge is the same percentage in each stand then basically those in the West Stand are more loyal. 😁

Stick your drum up yer bum. West is best.

[JohnMcM]

West Stand - 59%
East Stand - 45%
Famous Five - 39%

So assuming that ST coverge is the same percentage in each stand then basically those in the West Stand are more loyal. 😁

Stick your drum up yer bum. West is best.


Yay! We are the Westies!, We are the Westies!

East is East! and West is West! but we know where we sit best! (Sung to a tune from from the film Calamity Jane starring Doris Day)

[Since452]

Hopefully St Mirren beat Motherwell tonight so they're further from safety

[JeMeSouviens]

West Stand - 59%
East Stand - 45%
Famous Five - 39%

So assuming that ST coverge is the same percentage in each stand then basically those in the West Stand are more loyal. 😁

Stick your drum up yer bum. West is best.

:greengrin

Don't want to stick a spoke in your ueber-loyalty, but I count all the west exec seats as "not for sale" without knowing if they have been on sale (they are sometimes but not usually).

[Eyrie]

Why are we discussing Hibs' tickets sales in a thread about a lower leasgue club?

[bingo70]

Hopefully St Mirren beat Motherwell tonight so they're further from safety

St Mirren win 2-1.

That is a terrible result for Hearts. They now really need to beat them in their rearranged match at St Mirren park. A st Mirren win in that game would probably see them alright, think they’d be 9 points clear with a much better goal difference.

[007]

Shame.

23041

[AltheHibby]

Is "new owner" a euphemism for mug? One thing that is highly amusing about the Yams is how they fawn at the feet of any new leader, only to revise that opinion when they fail to meet their mentalist ambitions.

There is something very serf like about the way they use terms like "Queen", or "emperor" to describe someone who is ripping them off.

It ain't "queen" any more. From their thread on the Motherwell v St Mirren match.

"And not forgetting Agnes Skinners cameo in this shambolic 2 seasons.":na na:

[B.H.F.C]

St Mirren win 2-1.

That is a terrible result for Hearts. They now really need to beat them in their rearranged match at St Mirren park. A st Mirren win in that game would probably see them alright, think they’d be 9 points clear with a much better goal difference.

I don’t think Hearts will catch them. Playoff, at best, for them now IMO.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Looking very much like it’s a playoff spot - at best - for the ****bos. Pleasing.

Playoff v Dundee could be hilarious on many levels; Forster, McPake, Berra, their ‘special relationship’ with big games at Dens Park.

[bingo70]

I don’t think Hearts will catch them. Playoff, at best, for them now IMO.

Yes I think so too.

Next round of fixtures they’re at Easter Road and St Mirren at home to St Johnstone.

St Mirren starting to pull away now.

[Jones28]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/187697-midweek-matches/page/3/

There are pennies dropping in Jambo town.

Still no blame for Stendel in all of this though.

[Hibeesmad]

Give it to Stendel till the end of the season.

[Springbank]

Hearts to scrape into the playoffs

Only for James Keatings to score the goal that relegates them....

[Pretty Boy]

So the Kickback analysis is they are ****ed but it's 100% definitely not St Daniels fault. He's still pretty great.

[Hibee Mac]

Shame.

23041

An absolute disgrace to think that horrendous refereeing error at Hamilton has swung the gap between Hamilton and Hearts so much. There should be a 5 point gap right now and stranded, instead they have a lifeline and all down to a single referee/linesman.

[Sir David Gray]

I don’t think Hearts will catch them. Playoff, at best, for them now IMO.

Yep I think so too.

They need to hope that Hamilton don't win a couple of games or they're finished.

I reckon it will come down to the Hamilton v Hearts game after the split to decide which team goes straight down.

[Skol]

Looking very much like it’s a playoff spot - at best - for the ****bos. Pleasing.

Playoff v Dundee could be hilarious on many levels; Forster, McPake, Berra, their ‘special relationship’ with big games at Dens Park.

It would be funny if they forgot to put a cant play against us clause in the loan agreement.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

“Donner und Blitzen” as they say down Georgie!

[B.H.F.C]

Yep I think so too.

They need to hope that Hamilton don't win a couple of games or they're finished.

I reckon it will come down to the Hamilton v Hearts game after the split to decide which team goes straight down.

Hamilton at Ibrox next week. We need to beat Hearts the night before, mainly for our own benefit, but that’ll be another round of fixtures gone for them with no points made up.

Hamilton’s other games pre split are Killie and us at home, Ross County and St Johnstone away. They will pick up points in that run, hopefully not against us. But that’s a reasonable run for them.

[Hibbyradge]

It would be funny if they forgot to put a cant play against us clause in the loan agreement.

It's a league rule, nothing to do with the contract.

[Bostonhibby]

Looking good for desperate Dan, another day undefeated.

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[lord bunberry]

That result tonight is a hammer blow to our pink chums, they’re realistically looking at a playoff place at best. I’ve been on the fence as to whether they’d go down or not, but I’m now leaning towards them finishing bottom. Their one big result they’ve had since Stendal came in was the win against the huns, that result is looking less impressive every week as the huns stumble from one disaster to another. If it wasn’t for the greatest draw in history against the sheep I’d be convinced they’re doomed.

[RyeSloan]

That result tonight is a hammer blow to our pink chums, they’re realistically looking at a playoff place at best. I’ve been on the fence as to whether they’d go down or not, but I’m now leaning towards them finishing bottom. Their one big result they’ve had since Stendal came in was the win against the huns, that result is looking less impressive every week as the huns stumble from one disaster to another. If it wasn’t for the greatest draw in history against the sheep I’d be convinced they’re doomed.

Think I’m waiting until after we beat them to start making any such predictions....I’m nervous about the game already!

I was the same before Tynie though and we spanked them then so a repeat this time around will be perfect.

[Hibbyradge]

The relegation places will be decided after the split. It looks like it's between the bottom 3, but Ross County could still be dragged into it.

Nothing is even close to being decided yet.

[eastterrace]

The relegation places will be decided after the split. It looks like it's between the bottom 3, but Ross County could still be dragged into it.

Nothing is even close to being decided yet.ross county won’t be dragged into it they will win at least another two games and a few draws. Hearts won’t be catching them. It’s a two horse race and may the most famous team finish last.😂

[Waxy]

Duncans two results from certain relegation imo. Lose away to St Mirren and Away to Hamilton after the split then they’re away.

[Hibbyradge]

ross county won’t be dragged into it they will win at least another two games and a few draws. Hearts won’t be catching them. It’s a two horse race and may the most famous team finish last.😂

There are 10 games before the end of the season.

Almost anything is possible.

[Hibeesmad]

Jambos get battered. Everywhere they go.

[Hibbyradge]

Duncans two results from certain relegation imo. Lose away to St Mirren and Away to Hamilton after the split then they’re away.

And if they win?

I still think they'll escape the drop.

[Hibeesmad]

And if they win?

I still think they'll escape the drop.

I think they will get play offs at the absolute minimum. It's all too familiar to the Butcher days for me. After each game you say 'we will get a win next time' before you know it it's too late.

[bingo70]

The relegation places will be decided after the split. It looks like it's between the bottom 3, but Ross County could still be dragged into it.

Nothing is even close to being decided yet.

The problem Hearts have is that although Hearts will have easier fixtures after the split, so will Hamilton and St Mirren.

Hearts won’t lose every game between now and the end of the season, they’ll pick up points along the way I’m sure, so will Hamilton and St Mirren though.

[Geo_1875]

There are 10 games before the end of the season.

Almost anything is possible.

They remind me of us with Butcher in charge. Everybody was saying we only needed one win but it never came. It's hard to break a losing habit.

[Since452]

Has a team bottom of the league at the start of March ever stayed up? Can't be many if so

[bingo70]

And if they win?

I still think they'll escape the drop.

Win those games and they’d still be in the play off positions.

I don’t think they’ve shown anything to suggest they will be going on a winning run anytime soon.

[eastterrace]

There are 10 games before the end of the season.

Almost anything is possible.yes it’s possible but hearts would need to win 4 games over the ten and county not win any , not going to happen . Hearts have won only 3 all season.

[lord bunberry]

Think I’m waiting until after we beat them to start making any such predictions....I’m nervous about the game already!

I was the same before Tynie though and we spanked them then so a repeat this time around will be perfect.
I just think they’re starting to run out of games to turn it around. Their form hasn’t picked up at all and they’re struggling against the teams around them.

[macca70]

Has a team bottom of the league at the start of March ever stayed up? Can't be many if so

Saw this somewhere:


The last time the team who were bottom at Christmas didn't finish bottom was 2010/11. Aberdeen were bottom but ended up finishing 9th.

[FilipinoHibs]

They remind me of us with Butcher in charge. Everybody was saying we only needed one win but it never came. It's hard to break a losing habit.

Problem is they need much more than one win. Unlike Hibs under Butcher who slid down the table, Hearts have been rock bottom since the end of 2019.

[bingo70]

I don’t understand the Hearts fans theory that if they’d replaced Levein with Stendel sooner they would be in a better position and it’s all Budges fault for leaving it so long.

They have been worse since Stendel took over, leaving it so long is looking like it’s giving them a wee chance if saving their season.

[CentreLine]

Has a team bottom of the league at the start of March ever stayed up? Can't be many if so

They are saying, on eighteenpointsback that hahahahearts did it in season 1998/9 and eventually finished 6th 🤔

[truehibernian]

Has a team bottom of the league at the start of March ever stayed up? Can't be many if so

I think 32 points is the magic number - every team finishing below that has been relegated (Hearts had a 15 point deduction in one). So they would need 5 wins (minimum) from 11 games given past stats but clearly other sides influence that. Lot of football to be played but Hamilton tend to grind out wins at this stage of the season and Saints and County are picking up good wins.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

They would be better losing to us and beating St Mirren.

[bingo70]

They would be better losing to us and beating St Mirren.

If they lose to us and st Mirren beat St Johnstone it won’t matter I don’t think.

[RyeSloan]

I think 32 points is the magic number - every team finishing below that has been relegated (Hearts had a 15 point deduction in one). So they would need 5 wins (minimum) from 11 games given past stats but clearly other sides influence that. Lot of football to be played but Hamilton tend to grind out wins at this stage of the season and Saints and County are picking up good wins.

Hard to see Hamilton getting that total as well though...

But with 10 / 11 games to go anything is still possible right enough.

Argh still too early to tell but all I can say is that if Hibs were in Hearts position I’d be rather less than confident that it was going to end well!

[lord bunberry]

They would be better losing to us and beating St Mirren.
Losing both games would give me more pleasure :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

They are saying, on eighteenpointsback that hahahahearts did it in season 1998/9 and eventually finished 6th 🤔

They were actually bottom at the end of March with 24 points. They finished 6th on 42 points. They won 6, drew 3 and lost 1 of their final games.

It was a 10 team league.

[hibbyfraelibby]

They are saying, on eighteenpointsback that hahahahearts did it in season 1998/9 and eventually finished 6th 🤔

What they conveniently forget though is that back then the top league consisted of 10 teams and there was no split like now.

They have to face up to the fact that after the next 6 games they are in a dog eat dog scrap to avoid the drop with the teams around them sharing 15pts each from the games after the split. Its why the new set up works so well.

[Hibeesmad]

Hamilton and St Mirren genuinely look better than Hearts though, whether they have a better team on paper or not.

[CentreLine]

What they conveniently forget though is that back then the top league consisted of 10 teams and there was no split like now.

They have to face up to the fact that after the next 6 games they are in a dog eat dog scrap to avoid the drop with the teams around them sharing 15pts each from the games after the split. Its why the new set up works so well.

Good point well made

[Eyrie]

I don’t understand the Hearts fans theory that if they’d replaced Levein with Stendel sooner they would be in a better position and it’s all Budges fault for leaving it so long.

They have been worse since Stendel took over, leaving it so long is looking like it’s giving them a wee chance if saving their season.

I was talking with a Hearts fan on Friday who is convinced that Stendel will keep them up and money will be available in the summer to overhaul their squad. He's normally quite sensible so I was too surprised to point out all the evidence to the contrary.

[Hibbyradge]

What they conveniently forget though is that back then the top league consisted of 10 teams and there was no split like now.

They have to face up to the fact that after the next 6 games they are in a dog eat dog scrap to avoid the drop with the teams around them sharing 15pts each from the games after the split. Its why the new set up works so well.

I would have thought that the lack of split made it harder to get points because they were playing the top teams too.

They got 18 points out of a possible 27. That's an amazing haul for a team at the bottom of the league.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I would have thought that the lack of split made it harder to get points because they were playing the top teams too.

How many times have bottom 6 teams landed up with.more points than a top 6 team.

[Hibbyradge]

How many times have bottom 6 teams landed up with.more points than a top 6 team.

A few times. Why?

[RyeSloan]

I would have thought that the lack of split made it harder to get points because they were playing the top teams too.

They got 18 points out of a possible 27. That's an amazing haul for a team at the bottom of the league.

Yeah but the split ensures that the teams around them in the bottom six must pick up points as they all play each other. It’s therefore much harder to catch the teams above you as they can’t all be losing.

[Unseen work]

I just can’t see hearts going down, even though they’re bottom and have been for quite some time.

The lack of criticism Stendel is getting from Hearts fans is quite bizarre, for as bad as Levein was I still think he would have gotten more points than Stendel has from the games he’s been in charge. Especially with having the January window too and signing Boyce.

There’s something really wrong down there.

Michael Smith
Hickey
Halkett
Connor Washington
Meshino
Jamie Walker
Naismith
Boyce

They’re not bad players by any means but for some reason it’s not happening for them at all.

The big one that will make or break them is the game at Easter Road next Tuesday. Another defeat to us will see the fans in uproar and real pressure mount, a win could completely rejuvenate them and get the fans and players believing.

No matter where either of us are in the league I’m never confident playing them, let’s just hope we can batter them.

[Hibbyradge]

Yeah but the split ensures that the teams around them in the bottom six must pick up points as they all play each other. It’s therefore much harder to catch the teams above you as they can’t all be losing.

Hearts had 9 games to go and were bottom of the league. They had to play every team in the league. That included playing the top 6 teams 6 times. (Or top 5, 5 times as it was a 10 team league.) They got 18 points only losing once.

They're currently bottom and have 10 to go. They only have to play top 6 teams 3 times. I don't understand how that's a harder task than they one had in 98/99.

I accept that could be me misunderstanding the possible bottom 6 calculations.

[jacomo]

There are 10 games before the end of the season.

Almost anything is possible.


It’s in their own hands, I’ll give you that.

But if the fans are losing hope then it’s looking ominous for them.

[007]

Levein's derby wins bought him a lot of time which has probably played a big part in them ending up where they are now.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Levein's derby wins bought him a lot of time which has probably played a big part in them ending up where they are now.

To be fair - albeit in my beer addled mind - they always seemed to use a win against us as a spring-board when things were going bad for them over the years. I see from BoakBack some are still pinning their hopes on looking forward to a Derby victory. Time will tell but that the one thing g that’s no on their side.

[ScottB]

County 10 points clear of Hearts now, will Hearts win 4 games more than them by the end of the season? Would be a hell of a turnaround if they did.

Even the 6 point gap to St Mirren looks big, with the potential to go to 9 with the game to be replayed.

The Derby is crucial, if they get a result, it just might get a reaction out of them, if we beat them, they might not recover.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Although bizarre, I reckon the farts fans realise that steaming into “Their Daniel” at this stage is a bit futile.
The blood letting will come but perhaps only if he remains post relegation (should that happen) Potter, Nanny and Budge will bear the brunt.

[007]

County 10 points clear of Hearts now, will Hearts win 4 games more than them by the end of the season? Would be a hell of a turnaround if they did.

Even the 6 point gap to St Mirren looks big, with the potential to go to 9 with the game to be replayed.

The Derby is crucial, if they get a result, it just might get a reaction out of them, if we beat them, they might not recover.

The pressure is all on them. They don't look like a team that can handle pressure.

[Real Emerald]

I just can’t see hearts going down, even though they’re bottom and have been for quite some time.

The lack of criticism Stendel is getting from Hearts fans is quite bizarre, for as bad as Levein was I still think he would have gotten more points than Stendel has from the games he’s been in charge. Especially with having the January window too and signing Boyce.

There’s something really wrong down there.

Michael Smith
Hickey
Halkett
Connor Washington
Meshino
Jamie Walker
Naismith
Boyce

They’re not bad players by any means but for some reason it’s not happening for them at all.

The big one that will make or break them is the game at Easter Road next Tuesday. Another defeat to us will see the fans in uproar and real pressure mount, a win could completely rejuvenate them and get the fans and players believing.

No matter where either of us are in the league I’m never confident playing them, let’s just hope we can batter them.

100% this. I’m never confident facing them as wonder goals by them, goals not given for us plus their huge need to beat us always worries me. I’ll be sleeping in a completely different time zone on Tuesday so will only have to suffer clicking onto the result when I wake up. 🤞

[cocteautwin]

That was a great result for St Mirren last night and helps us loads as well. I reckon the best HMFC can hope for now is a play off position. Shaping up to be a comedy season. If only Dr Mrs Queen Ego Budge was having it recorded for a BBC show for posterity . . . . . . .

[Since452]

It's ok. Langer will drag them to safety.

😂😂

[HibbySpurs]

I was talking with a Hearts fan on Friday who is convinced that Stendel will keep them up and money will be available in the summer to overhaul their squad. He's normally quite sensible so I was too surprised to point out all the evidence to the contrary.

I don’t actually think he’s being that silly? I still think they’ll wriggle out of the swamp sadly, albeit they may have to win a playofff.

If they do survive of course Stendel will be given a wedge to spend, even if Hearts can’t afford it, after all, it’s never bothered them before!

[Since452]

There's a thread on kickback asking if relegation would actually be a good thing.

I was waiting for it

[hibsbollah]

There's a thread on kickback asking if relegation would actually be a good thing.

I was waiting for it

I'll say one thing. Relegation would certainly take away the fear of relegation :agree:

[ScottB]

There's a thread on kickback asking if relegation would actually be a good thing.

I was waiting for it

I mean, I’d say it was for us, in the end? But, we as a club knew we were in a mess, brought in Dempster and sorted everything out, which put us on a trajectory to the cup win.

Could it be good for Hearts? Sure. Do they know they are in a mess and are actively planning solutions to that? That’s a different question...

[Barney McGrew]

I'll say one thing. Relegation would certainly take away the fear of relegation :agree:

They’re that pish that even relegation to the Champioship might not take away fear of relegation :cb

[Springbank]

Cause all of the points
Are fading away
Don't worry Your Daniel
You'll win some day

But we'll beat you at home
And we beat you away
So stop crying Your Daniel..

[lyonhibs]

All brings into sharp relief what a great job LD et al did in replacing Heckingbottom quickly and with someone who actually wanted to be here not with a booze hound that was initially more interested in diddling around with legal matters with his old club than signing on the dotted line and then got shown around the gaff by the person he was replacing 😂😂

I wasn't as thrilled as some with Jack Ross' appointment but I've been wrong before and will be wrong again I'm sure :greengrin

[flash]

There's a thread on kickback asking if relegation would actually be a good thing.

I was waiting for it

Would be a very good thing in my opinion.

[EdinMike]

There's a thread on kickback asking if relegation would actually be a good thing.

I was waiting for it

They talk about their relegation prio money days in the 70s

Can they not see the problem ?!

[Is It On....]

I don’t actually think he’s being that silly? I still think they’ll wriggle out of the swamp sadly, albeit they may have to win a playofff.

If they do survive of course Stendel will be given a wedge to spend, even if Hearts can’t afford it, after all, it’s never bothered them before!

Play off against John Robertson's ICT. Second leg at Tynecastle. The irony of that would be delicious 🙂

[hibbysam]

Hearts had 9 games to go and were bottom of the league. They had to play every team in the league. That included playing the top 6 teams 6 times. (Or top 5, 5 times as it was a 10 team league.) They got 18 points only losing once.

They're currently bottom and have 10 to go. They only have to play top 6 teams 3 times. I don't understand how that's a harder task than they one had in 98/99.

I accept that could be me misunderstanding the possible bottom 6 calculations.

I think the point is, although the fixtures for hearts were more difficult, they were also more difficult for everyone. So it was a very good run, but by putting that run together there was every chance the other sides could lose most of their games as they included games against the top sides.

With the split, games are easier for everyone, however the points are all shared, so it’s nearly impossible to make up 7/8 points on teams as they are all being shared.

[hibsbollah]

Play off against John Robertson's ICT. Second leg at Tynecastle. The irony of that would be delicious 🙂

It's a fair bet both maestros will be three sheets to the wind by full time. The Shane McGowan and Shaun Ryder of Scottish football management.

[flash]

It's a fair bet both maestros will be three sheets to the wind by full time. The Shane McGowan and Shaun Ryder of Scottish football management.

Brown paper bag being passed between the dugouts.

[theonlywayisup]

I suppose, if I was a Hertz fan, I can understand why I would be supportive of Daniel even if that means relegation.

For the past few years, as we all know, the Hertz have been extremely dull to watch. It's only when they played the kids (because they had too) that there's been any enjoyment for them. They need a massive clear-out of the overly physical, anti-football players and bring in players that are able to play Stendel's style of football. To make it work Stendel needs time even if that means a year in the Championship. Actually, the Championship might be a good thing for them as Stendel can build a team that would romp the Championship and get the fans back onside and in large numbers.

Whilst we would love to see them relegated, there's every chance that they will come back a much stronger team. That's what happened to us and it could be the same with them.

[flash]

Jeez that last post is more positive about their prospects than any I have heard from one of them.

[Smartie]

I suppose, if I was a Hertz fan, I can understand why I would be supportive of Daniel even if that means relegation.

For the past few years, as we all know, the Hertz have been extremely dull to watch. It's only when they played the kids (because they had too) that there's been any enjoyment for them. They need a massive clear-out of the overly physical, anti-football players and bring in players that are able to play Stendel's style of football. To make it work Stendel needs time even if that means a year in the Championship. Actually, the Championship might be a good thing for them as Stendel can build a team that would romp the Championship and get the fans back onside and in large numbers.

Whilst we would love to see them relegated, there's every chance that they will come back a much stronger team. That's what happened to us and it could be the same with them.

A little bit of cutting and pasting and it looks like you’ve pretty much written Banderson’s article for the day after the St Mirren defeat.

[Ozyhibby]

I suppose, if I was a Hertz fan, I can understand why I would be supportive of Daniel even if that means relegation.

For the past few years, as we all know, the Hertz have been extremely dull to watch. It's only when they played the kids (because they had too) that there's been any enjoyment for them. They need a massive clear-out of the overly physical, anti-football players and bring in players that are able to play Stendel's style of football. To make it work Stendel needs time even if that means a year in the Championship. Actually, the Championship might be a good thing for them as Stendel can build a team that would romp the Championship and get the fans back onside and in large numbers.

Whilst we would love to see them relegated, there's every chance that they will come back a much stronger team. That's what happened to us and it could be the same with them.

Our fans didn’t get back onside till we won the cup. Had we not then our crowds would have continued below the 10k mark. Relegation will be a disaster for them as it was for us.


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[Greenside]

They already did the "come back up stronger" thing in 2015 and look where they are now.

[bingo70]

A little bit of cutting and pasting and it looks like you’ve pretty much written Banderson’s article for the day after the St Mirren defeat.

https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/1232570395116658688?s=21

On a similar note, I only read the headline and not the article, but this made me laugh.

Unsung hero’s in a season they’ve won 3 games and a rooted to the bottom of the league?! Even then it’s a guy who went off injured in the one game they won while he’s been there and has been posted missing in most games since then.

Some hero that, unsung or not.

[CapitalGreen]

They’ve got Hecky to thank if they stay up, still can’t believe that imposter handed them their only away win this season.

[EdinMike]

https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/1232570395116658688?s=21

On a similar note, I only read the headline and not the article, but this made me laugh.

Unsung hero’s in a season they’ve won 3 games and a rooted to the bottom of the league?! Even then it’s a guy who went off injured in the one game they won while he’s been there and has been posted missing in most games since then.

Some hero that, unsung or not.

Banderson truly is a great pick me up. Firstly who is Sibbick !? And secondly well done for dropping Klopp, however rude that may sound.

[MacGruber]

Just aswell the wind blew the ball on to a 17 year old kid's hand and the resulting yellow card was red in the Hamilton game.... 1 poor decision away from already being marooned

[Waxy]

Think we actually look back at relegation fondly now because of the cup win.The reality of it was different. Losing 0-3 to Morton.
Struggling against Dumbarton Alloa Falkirk etc plus that play off last second defeat at Falkirk before the final.All pretty gut wrenching.
This could happen to any club outside the old firm.

[Barney McGrew]

Our fans didn’t get back inside till we won the cup. Had we not then our crowds would have continued below the 10k mark. Relegation will be a disaster for them as it was for us

When we got relegated we were left with virtually no squad and Stubbs got to build us back up from scratch.

If they go down they’ll have a massive squad on long contracts and silly wages, which will be totally unsustainable. Add in that the rover driver, blazer wearing Jambo types at FoH are about to take over and it’s a car crash waiting to happen.

[bingo70]

When we got relegated we were left with virtually no squad and Stubbs got to build us back up from scratch.

If they go down they’ll have a massive squad on long contracts and silly wages, which will be totally unsustainable. Add in that the rover driver, blazer wearing Jambi types at FoH are about to take over and it’s a car crash waiting to happen.

The fans taking over literally couldn’t come at a worse time for them.

[Peevemor]

I suppose, if I was a Hertz fan, I can understand why I would be supportive of Daniel even if that means relegation.

For the past few years, as we all know, the Hertz have been extremely dull to watch. It's only when they played the kids (because they had too) that there's been any enjoyment for them. They need a massive clear-out of the overly physical, anti-football players and bring in players that are able to play Stendel's style of football. To make it work Stendel needs time even if that means a year in the Championship. Actually, the Championship might be a good thing for them as Stendel can build a team that would romp the Championship and get the fans back onside and in large numbers.

Whilst we would love to see them relegated, there's every chance that they will come back a much stronger team. That's what happened to us and it could be the same with them.

Except he seems to be a one trick pony and their system, especially if they're missing key personnel (as happens to every team), leaves them very exposed at the back.

[Bostonhibby]

Would be a very good thing in my opinion.I'm thinking the same, personally I can hardly wait to hear Kiwidug's pronouncements on the subject and I'm pretty sure wee Shaun Lawson will have a patronising Sermon on the Mount style lecture to give them all as well

It'll be pleasing.

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[Green_one]

When we got relegated we were left with virtually no squad and Stubbs got to build us back up from scratch.

If they go down they’ll have a massive squad on long contracts and silly wages, which will be totally unsustainable. Add in that the rover driver, blazer wearing Jambi types at FoH are about to take over and it’s a car crash waiting to happen.

Exactly. Relegation is a financial disaster and the league is not easy to get out of

If we were in Hearts position we would be wetting ourselves. This time next week they will hopefully be out the cup, have suffered a derby defeat and looking at a hard league fight to get anything. If they are not worried then good, as they will be Sleepwalking into disaster. They deserve it. Being rubbish and entitled is not a winning combo.

[Smartie]

When we got relegated we were left with virtually no squad and Stubbs got to build us back up from scratch.

If they go down they’ll have a massive squad on long contracts and silly wages, which will be totally unsustainable. Add in that the rover driver, blazer wearing Jambo types at FoH are about to take over and it’s a car crash waiting to happen.

A car crash with 1970s British car manufacturing safety standards and driving gloves.

[GreenCastle]

The fans taking over literally couldn’t come at a worse time for them.

Luckily they aren’t filming a documentary about this season also...

[wazoo1875]

Luckily they aren’t filming a documentary about this season also...

The only summer blockbuster I’m waiting for. It’s going to be epic if they drop down 🙏

[Sergio sledge]

I would have thought that the lack of split made it harder to get points because they were playing the top teams too.

They got 18 points out of a possible 27. That's an amazing haul for a team at the bottom of the league.

Did they not pay a few hundred thousand for Darren Jackson in March that year and immediately start winning games again? My recollection is that they splashed the cash to get them out of trouble, no chance of that now with the transfer window in place.

[Hibbyradge]

Did they not pay a few hundred thousand for Darren Jackson in March that year and immediately start winning games again? My recollection is that they splashed the cash to get them out of trouble, no chance of that now with the transfer window in place.

I don't remember that, but it looks like he joined them on 3 April right enough. As you say, that's not possible now.

[Steven79]

Did they not pay a few hundred thousand for Darren Jackson in March that year and immediately start winning games again? My recollection is that they splashed the cash to get them out of trouble, no chance of that now with the transfer window in place.

He only scored one goal for them that season so I don't think it was

They went twelve games without win (Which included 4 then 5 defeats in a row in that 12) before their run which is pretty impressive as it included handing out thrashings to Aberdeen, Dundee United & Motherwell.

But that team had players like Adam, Cameron, Weir, Pressley and they were far better than the dross they have now.

They finished 3rd the season before and the season after so it was just a blip that time.

This time around they have been rubbish since losing to Celtic in the semi final at Murrayfield in October 2018 and I can't see them ever putting in a run of 3 or 4 wins in a row as they simply do not have it in them, after they fluked a win against Rangers with that deflected goal I expected them to pick up a few points but it didn't happen.

We need to put them to the sword on Tuesday as it will kill them off...

[Barman Stanton]

Its weird, the further Hearts get adrift from safety the more some Hibs fans seem to think they will survive. I just dont get it. They have won 3 games all season and look absolutely dreadful. They are up against 2 teams who are used to being in this position. I personally think they are doomed. They look every single bit the relegated team.

[GreenCastle]

I think it will be between them and Hamilton who finish bottom.

I can’t see Jim Goodwin letting Saints finish bottom 2. I was impressed with them at ER recently.

[Sergio sledge]

He only scored one goal for them that season so I don't think it was

They went twelve games without win (Which included 4 then 5 defeats in a row in that 12) before their run which is pretty impressive as it included handing out thrashings to Aberdeen, Dundee United & Motherwell.

But that team had players like Adam, Cameron, Weir, Pressley and they were far better than the dross they have now.

They finished 3rd the season before and the season after so it was just a blip that time.

This time around they have been rubbish since losing to Celtic in the semi final at Murrayfield in October 2018 and I can't see them ever putting in a run of 3 or 4 wins in a row as they simply do not have it in them, after they fluked a win against Rangers with that deflected goal I expected them to pick up a few points but it didn't happen.

We need to put them to the sword on Tuesday as it will kill them off...

You could be right, it was just what I recalled from when I was 14 and my friends were proclaiming Jackson as the saviour of their season... :greengrin

I've just had a look and it appears Colin Cameron only played 11 games for them that season and made 9 of them in Hearts' last 9 games where he scored 6 goals and Hearts had a dramatic upturn in form, so perhaps this was more of a factor.

They've already had their talisman return from injury this year (Naismith) and it made no difference, so I can't see any chance of them making a run like they did then.

Not that they need to, they only need to pick up 2 more points than Hamilton over their last games to avoid automatic relegation, which is a possibility given Hamiltons recent form. It'll be more difficult to avoid the playoff though.

[NC1875]

It’s in their own hands, I’ll give you that.

But if the fans are losing hope then it’s looking ominous for them.

It’s not in their own hands though is it ? If they win all there games and Hamilton and at Mirren above them do the same minus the hearts game they still finish second bottom.

And the likelihood of them suddenly winning even 5 or 6 games after only winning 3 al year is highly unlikely.

[B.H.F.C]

I think it will be between them and Hamilton who finish bottom.

I can’t see Jim Goodwin letting Saints finish bottom 2. I was impressed with them at ER recently.

I think they’ll be safe. They’ve got a wee bit more quality than the other two IMO.

Two way fight between Hearts and Hamilton for 11th now IMO. Which is ideal as I’d like them both relegated.

[Since452]

I think it will be between them and Hamilton who finish bottom.

I can’t see Jim Goodwin letting Saints finish bottom 2. I was impressed with them at ER recently.

I think he could be a future contender for the Hibs job. Think he's done very well at St Mirren and comes across well too.

[Steven79]

It’s not in their own hands though is it ? If they win all there games and Hamilton and at Mirren above them do the same minus the hearts game they still finish second bottom.

And the likelihood of them suddenly winning even 5 or 6 games after only winning 3 al year is highly unlikely.

They still have to play St Mirren twice this season so those two games will go a long way to decide their season.

I'm all for attending the game where they go down, either through the league or via the play-offs.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Can Hamilton get a win or 2 before the split? They seem pretty hopeless too and this might be what saves Hearts in terms of automatic relegation. Their pre-split fixtures are:

Rangers (A)
Kilmarnock (H)
Ross County (A)
Hibs (H)

If they can get even one win from those 4 fixtures (hopefully not against us) that should see them above Hearts going into the split and then they will face Hearts at home in a potential relegation decider :brokenyam:

[Jones28]

If Hibs get into Europe, progress in the cup to the semis/final and we see Hearts and Hamilton relegated, is that the best season ever?

Sorry, with the obvious exception

[SHODAN]

If Hibs get into Europe, progress in the cup to the semis/final and we see Hearts and Hamilton relegated, is that the best season ever?

No. 2016.