The generic Hearts thread

[euro Hibby]

cannot see too much from Robbie explaining the defeat yesterday to a largely reserve team.

[Bostonhibby]

cannot see too much from Robbie explaining the defeat yesterday to a largely reserve team.Budge does the statements, or maybe the golf guy?

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[Since452]

The goals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMxLg2pomsM

The defending 😂😂😂

[Aldo]

Looks like Boyce (No.9)

Was Wighton I think


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[Col2]

The fact that they are hopeful “Wighton will come good” says it all really. Halkett is another who had a shocker based on this highlights.

A bad start and a reduced set of fixtures could mean a close run championship.

Imagine the seethe and total rage is they were a point behind Dundee with 10 games to go and due to extra Covid measures the lower leagues were called based on current point per game position. Just imagine!

[matty_f]

The fact that they are hopeful “Wighton will come good” says it all really. Gallery is another who had a shocker based on this highlights.

A bad start and a reduced set of fixtures could mean a close run championship.

Imagine the seethe and total rage is they were a point behind Dundee with 10 games to go and due to extra Covid measures the lower leagues were called based on current point per game position. Just imagine!

Dunfermline look like they might have some good investment coming their way, they’re a well run club just now so if they get the spending right they could cause Hearts bother as well.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Hearts were playing away to Burnley today and lost 4-1 here are the teams. No idea how strong this Burnley squad is?

Burnley: Norris, Lowton, Long, Tarkowski, Pieters, Westwood, Benson, Gudmundsson, Rodriguez, Thompson (Mumbongo 65), Richardson (Elva-Fountaine 73).

Hearts: Gordon; Brandon, Halkett, Hamilton (Trialist 45), White (Garuccio 65); Lee (Cochrane 65), Damour (C Smith 65); Ginnelly (Moore 65), Walker (Frear 45), Roberts; Wighton (Irving 45).

Was the guy Burnley brought on in the 65th minute their new signing from The Congo? ☺

[Keith_M]

Was the guy Burnley brought on in the 65th minute their new signing from The Congo? ☺



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[O'Rourke3]

How bad was Plooky's distribution if thats him improved under Brendan?

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[Ronniekirk]

Craig Gordon had some game :faf:

No doubt saving himself fir theSemi Final


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[lapsedhibee]

A bad start and a reduced set of fixtures could mean a close run championship.

Imagine the seethe and total rage is they were a point behind Dundee with 10 games to go and due to extra Covid measures the lower leagues were called based on current point per game position. Just imagine!

Honestly can't see Dundee sitting ninth in that league in February.

[Since452]

Hearts should skoosh that league but then they also should have stayed up last season so who knows. Really hoping Dundee win it on the final day and St Mirren beat them in the playoffs. How funny would that be.

[Greenworld]

Hearts should skoosh that league but then they also should have stayed up last season so who knows. Really hoping Dundee win it on the final day and St Mirren beat them in the playoffs. How funny would that be.Im not so sure i agree with your sentiment but there are others in that league that have strengthened well.
Dundee, inverness, ayr and dunfermline will all do well this season .
Its a tough league to get out of the will be favorites but i have a hunch dundee and inverness will be up there .

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[easty]

Hearts should skoosh that league but then they also should have stayed up last season so who knows. Really hoping Dundee win it on the final day and St Mirren beat them in the playoffs. How funny would that be.

They will skoosh that league.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Inverness will let Hearts be above them in the league as they are special friends.

[Bostonhibby]

Inverness will let Hearts be above them in the league as they are special friends.Half and half scarves?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle written on 90% of it and Hearts on the wee bit at the end.

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[HibbyAndy]

Inverness will let Hearts be above them in the league as they are special friends.

The same Inverness that beat Hearts with 9 men in the League cup semi final at Easter road ?

[Rumble de Thump]

Hearts were dreadful last season and their squad is worse now. Their best players will spend most of the season injured and anyone else half decent has been let go. If Hearts were well run they would be in much better shape for the season ahead, but they're not. It's such a shame.

[mal]

I don't know what the squads of the other teams in that division are like but Hearts look very weak and will have to make some big signings over the next few weeks if they're going to "skoosh" anything. Hearts' squad (sort of; they can't be arsed keeping it up to date): https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/squads/first-team/playing-squad

[Since452]

The same Inverness that beat Hearts with 9 men in the League cup semi final at Easter road ?

Hahahahaha. The irony when the say "Hibsed it". Stevenson hi-fiving the Hearts fans just before the final whistle 😂

Pretty sure Hearts didn't come close to selling out their allocation either for a semi in their own city. Big team indeed.

[Aldo]

The same Inverness that beat Hearts with 9 men in the League cup semi final at Easter road ?

Yip when Stevenson was ‘High sixing’ the hearts fans as he went to take a corner in injury time...... the rest is history!


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[Aldo]

Hahahahaha. The irony when the say "Hibsed it". Stevenson hi-fiving the Hearts fans just before the final whistle [emoji23]

Pretty sure Hearts didn't come close to selling out their allocation either for a semi in their own city. Big team indeed.

Just shy of 8,000 empty seats that day


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[Barney McGrew]

Pretty sure Hearts didn't come close to selling out their allocation either for a semi in their own city. Big team indeed.

Just over 12,500 at the game IIRC

[Austinho]

Yip when Stevenson was ‘High sixing’ the hearts fans as he went to take a corner in injury time...... the rest is history!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJamie Hamill doing the ‘shhhhhhhhh’ celebration at both of his goals and then going on to be the one who missed the vital penalty a particularly special moment that day

[Aldo]

Jamie Hamill doing the ‘shhhhhhhhh’ celebration at both of goals and then going on to be the one who missed the vital penalty a particularly special moment that day

Very pleasing and very funny afternoon!


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[04Sauzee]

Jamie Hamill doing the ‘shhhhhhhhh’ celebration at both of goals and then going on to be the one who missed the vital penalty a particularly special moment that day

Just had to watch the highlights again 😁

[H18 SFR]

I don't know what the squads of the other teams in that division are like but Hearts look very weak and will have to make some big signings over the next few weeks if they're going to "skoosh" anything. Hearts' squad (sort of; they can't be arsed keeping it up to date): https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/squads/first-team/playing-squad

Had a look at their squad. To be fair, they could field a team that is really hard to beat at that level. In terms of blowing teams away or skooshing it, I'm not convinced.

[Magpie]

I think they will win the league but I don’t think it will be by a huge point gap.

[Kato]

It all depends on their application in games. They were up for matches against us and The the's but couldn't be bothered in other games, hence the horrendous form.

If their players show the same attitude as they did last season no way are they coming up, no matter how good they are on paper. Taking out the toxic influence of Levein might be a factor which helps them.

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[mal]

It all depends on their application in games. They were up for matches against us and The the's but couldn't be bothered in other games, hence the horrendous form.

If their players show the same attitude as they did last season no way are they coming up, no matter how good they are on paper. Taking out the toxic influence of Levein might be a factor which helps them. Sent from my SM-A405FN using Tapatalk

I agree with this. They still have quite a few players on their books who were signed on the high-basic/low-bonus formula who might not be that bothered about putting in a shift on plastic pitches in January. I think it's fair to say that the other 9 teams will be well up for the games against them.

They're going to have to hope that Boyce can be their Shankland but will he still be a Hearts player in a month's time ...?

[Stuart93]

I think they’ll win that league easily

There’s a lack of competition imo.

Dundee/Dunfermline/Inverness all the same level but none will be close to hearts

[Since452]

Are Hearts the only Championship club doing Covid testing? Seems highly unlikely the lower leagues will start the way things are going. Just seems nuts to me. Look at Hamilton today. Real shame for Hearts if they can't play any time soon. Heart bleeds.

[Winston Ingram]

Hearts should skoosh that league but then they also should have stayed up last season so who knows. Really hoping Dundee win it on the final day and St Mirren beat them in the playoffs. How funny would that be.

How do you work that out? They won 4 games all season and were incapable of picking up points v the clubs around them

[Since452]

How do you work that out? They won 4 games all season and were incapable of picking up points v the clubs around them

With the squad they had they shouldn't have been anywhere near relegation

[Kato]

With the squad they had they shouldn't have been anywhere near relegation...and yet...

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[Since452]

...and yet...

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Exactly. That was my point

[Jones28]

Nothing about that Hearts team suggests they should skoosh it in the championship next season.

[LancsHibs]

Hearts were in much better shape to go up last time they were relegated, even though they had us and the tribute act in the same league. They had a team of young players, some admittedly decent, all pulling together and played most of the season before against the odds. Where as we were all at sea at the start of that season.
Don’t like the look of their squad this time around so much, they should still win but wouldn’t be too surprised (and hope) if it all went horribly wrong for them.

[Alan62]

Robbie Replay should do a better job of the team management but they still have Budge's chaotic leadership in the background unless the Golf Guy can remove her from any kind of executive functions AND do a good job himself.

What SHOULD happen in football doesn't always work out.

[The Count]

Think the Championship will be in for a bumpy ride this winter with Covid 19 positive tests.More players will test positive in my opinion and it will have a bigger impact on games compared to the Premier League which will not be without its own problems.So will Hearts skoosh the Championship maybe yes but maybe no but it will be interesting if the road gets bumpy along the way snd bottles start crashing.Sit back and enjoy the show.

[Jim44]

Folk might think they will walk the league but, in fact, they will be under great pressure and I can see them come a cropper. They have no character or backbone. I think I’ll buy a few shares in popcorn.

[Sudds_1]

Folk might think they will walk the league but, in fact, they will be under great pressure and I can see them come a cropper. They have no character or backbone. I think I’ll buy a few shares in popcorn.

tena for men is my shout....i'll piss myself every other week listening to that lots excuses when they bomb.

[007]

Robbie Replay should do a better job of the team management but they still have Budge's chaotic leadership in the background unless the Golf Guy can remove her from any kind of executive functions AND do a good job himself.

What SHOULD happen in football doesn't always work out.

Compared to Budge's squealing statements every 2nd day there's been almost no statements from them since he joined, which imo means he's already doing a much better job than she was.

[Greenworld]

I think they’ll win that league easily

There’s a lack of competition imo.

Dundee/Dunfermline/Inverness all the same level but none will be close to heartsIs that based on last seasons performance where is the form suddenly coming from ..i think it will be close run thing

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[Greenworld]

Think the Championship will be in for a bumpy ride this winter with Covid 19 positive tests.More players will test positive in my opinion and it will have a bigger impact on games compared to the Premier League which will not be without its own problems.So will Hearts skoosh the Championship maybe yes but maybe no but it will be interesting if the road gets bumpy along the way snd bottles start crashing.Sit back and enjoy the show.Agreed they might have to bin this season i can see no demotion or promotion [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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[Real Emerald]

Agreed they might have to bin this season i can see no demotion or promotion [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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I think binning the season may be a very real prospect.

[Stuart93]

Is that based on last seasons performance where is the form suddenly coming from ..i think it will be close run thing

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It’s coming from the fact they’re playing really ***** teams

[Eyrie]

It’s coming from the fact they’re playing really ***** teams

We can always hope that they'll jambottle it.

[Dashing Bob S]

As has been said it's a poor league so they theoretically should stroll it.

But they are hated due to their arrogant comments about the other clubs and plenty will be busting a gut against them.

It could be tougher than many think, particularly if one or two clubs from Inverness/Dundee/Dunfermline axis put together strong, consistent runs.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Just watching Antiques Road Trip, and they are visiting the East Of Scotland (seems like an old show BTW). And they have just done a feature at Tynecastle abour Hearts and Crae's Battalion.

What I didn't know what the Hearts players only signed up after a newspaper article, entitled 'White Feathers of "Midlothian"' criticised them as cowards for not volunteering.

[AltheHibby]

Just watching Antiques Road Trip, and they are visiting the East Of Scotland (seems like an old show BTW). And they have just done a feature at Tynecastle abour Hearts and Crae's Battalion.

What I didn't know what the Hearts players only signed up after a newspaper article, entitled 'White Feathers of "Midlothian"' criticised them as cowards for not volunteering.

Your second paragraph puts a whole new perspective on their boasting

[hibbyfraelibby]

Just watching Antiques Road Trip, and they are visiting the East Of Scotland (seems like an old show BTW). And they have just done a feature at Tynecastle abour Hearts and Crae's Battalion.

What I didn't know what the Hearts players only signed up after a newspaper article, entitled 'White Feathers of "Midlothian"' criticised them as cowards for not volunteering.

Now there is a name to taunt them with. Imagine being shamed in to saving civilization as we know it.

[bigwheel]

Your second paragraph puts a whole new perspective on their boasting

Tbf it’s the context of that time , any men who were not signed up would have , at times, had the white feather treatment .....its will documented that it was part of the reason players wanted to put it right . The Hibs players would have got it the same ...

[AltheHibby]

Tbf it’s the context of that time , any men who were not signed up would have , at times, had the white feather treatment .....its will documented that it was part of the reason players wanted to put it right . The Hibs players would have got it the same ...


Totally agree with you. Its the insinuation from across the road that they voluntarily signed up without any pressure. They were effectively shamed into "volunteering " as opposed to those who volunteered because it was the right thing to do.

The supporters and their attempts to be all superior that are more disgusting than any man volunteering under pressure. At least by taking the hint they did the right thing.

[Since452]

Looking forward to Charlie Adam taring them a new one on their opening fixture. Do they show Championship games on TV?

[speedy_gonzales]

Just watching Antiques Road Trip, and they are visiting the East Of Scotland (seems like an old show BTW). And they have just done a feature at Tynecastle abour Hearts and Crae's Battalion.

What I didn't know what the Hearts players only signed up after a newspaper article, entitled 'White Feathers of "Midlothian"' criticised them as cowards for not volunteering.

At the risk of sounding like a Hearts fan, I think your second paragraph is over simplifying the situation.
At the time, with the bodycount in France rising, there was bad feeling in the communities and when a young, fit & able young man was seen out walking the streets, then it wouldn't be unusual for that guy to receive abuse, accusations of cowardice and even a white feather pinned on to them.
Just as it is now, a significant %age of the public felt Pro-footballers were over paid and a vanity project, "why should these young men be exempt from fighting for King & Country.
Letters were written in the local press, one renaming Hearts as "White feathers of Midlothian", Hearts being the target as they were at the time the league leaders and a fine team to watch(by all accounts).
A motion was about to be raised in parliament, but due to the media pressure, players volunteered, across the league, to join McRaes Battalion, the "Pals" Battalion.
Ignoring the present days gloating and false recall of the past, the players from Hearts, Hibs, Dunfermline, Falkirk etc did what they thought was the right thing, after the airing of bitter comments from those that had paid the highest price.

[mal]

Would the folk who think Hearts will stroll the league be saying the same thing about Hamilton or St Mirren if they'd gone down? If not, why not?

[Kato]

At the risk of sounding like a Hearts fan, I think your second paragraph is over simplifying the situation.
At the time, with the bodycount in France rising, there was bad feeling in the communities and when a young, fit & able young man was seen out walking the streets, then it wouldn't be unusual for that guy to receive abuse, accusations of cowardice and even a white feather pinned on to them.
Just as it is now, a significant %age of the public felt Pro-footballers were over paid and a vanity project, "why should these young men be exempt from fighting for King & Country.
Letters were written in the local press, one renaming Hearts as "White feathers of Midlothian", Hearts being the target as they were at the time the league leaders and a fine team to watch.
A motion was about to be raised in parliament, but due to the beta pressure


Which communities had bad feeling? It's was upper middle class Jingoism at it's height. Rich, Morningside wifies writing letters to The Scotsman or handing out white feathers in the street, demanding young men go and fight a useless war.

[Stuart93]

Would the folk who think Hearts will stroll the league be saying the same thing about Hamilton or St Mirren if they'd gone down? If not, why not?

Because hearts have a better squad than either of those two

[Kato]

Because hearts have a better squad than either of those two

That's not the only factor at play with them.

[A Hi-Bee]

**** the hertz, 2 many ****in jambo's on this site in my humble opinion.

[mal]

Because hearts have a better squad than either of those two

And yet they finished several points behind both of them last season, failing to beat Hamilton at all, and have lost a few of last year's team, including Hickey and Souttar. Three different managers failed to locate any guts in that squad.

[Dashing Bob S]

And yet they finished several points behind both of them last season, failing to beat Hamilton at all, and have lost a few of last year's team, including Hickey and Souttar. Three different managers failed to locate any guts in that squad.



Therefore, we, Hibs, should manage them, as we were the only ones able to pull this off.

[mal]

[/B]


Therefore, we, Hibs, should manage them, as we were the only ones able to pull this off.

That's another reason they might struggle - no guaranteed 6 points at ER ...

[Moulin Yarns]

Just watching Antiques Road Trip, and they are visiting the East Of Scotland (seems like an old show BTW). And they have just done a feature at Tynecastle abour Hearts and Crae's Battalion.

What I didn't know what the Hearts players only signed up after a newspaper article, entitled 'White Feathers of "Midlothian"' criticised them as cowards for not volunteering.

The story is even told be the McRaes Battalion Trust

http://www.mccraesbattaliontrust.org.uk/white-feathers-of-idlothian/

[04Sauzee]

Have Hearts changed the goals with regards to season tickets and what they could expect to see or was this always the case?


Hearts fans won’t miss a minute of the Tynecastle action this season with the club today committing to live stream every home game, starting next Saturday.

The Jambos host Partick Thistle in a friendly match at Tynecastle, 3pm kick off, and season ticket holders will get to watch the match for free as a thank you for their unwavering support over the summer.

The club has been working hard behind the scenes with streaming partners Stream Digital and broadcasters QTV to put plans in place to broadcast home games live, given there will be no TV cameras inside Tynecastle for the majority of the 2020/21 campaign.

We’re now in a position to confirm, however, that the club will make a substantial investment in the installation of a multi-camera set-up so fans can keep up with all the action on the pitch.

Previously, only Hearts TV subscribers outside of the UK & Ireland have been able to watch most games live. This will now be opened up, as per SPFL broadcasting guidelines, to the domestic audience for as long as fans are unable to access Tynecastle.

This means that season ticket holders will get matchday access to Hearts TV included as part of the club’s 18-game season ticket guarantee that was announced earlier in the year.

The Jambos are set to play 14 home league games this season, therefore four fixtures will be credited to those who renew for 21/22 – in line with the 18 game guarantee.

International subscribers can continue to subscribe for only £12.99 a month for full Hearts TV access, including live games, while the finishing touches are being made to a PPV option for fans that do not have season tickets.

A club spokesperson said: “When season tickets were launched earlier in the year it was against an extremely uncertain backdrop.

“This is why the club launched the 18-game season ticket guarantee pledge, to give supporters peace of mind that they would not miss any league games even if stadiums remained closed due to the Coronavirus pandemic.

“Today’s streaming announcement is the culmination of weeks of hard work behind the scenes, given the numerous challenges that await broadcasting live matches in the Championship.

“More importantly, it follows through on the club’s promise to ensure that season ticket holders are able to watch the Jambos every time they take to the Tynecastle pitch.

“Furthermore, the commitment remains whereby any outstanding matches from this season will be credited to those who renew their season tickets for season 21/22, with the relevant number of match tickets offered to those who do not renew.

“We’re looking forward to welcoming fans back to Tynecastle Park when it is safe to do so. In the meantime, we’re pleased deliver on our promise that no season ticket holder will miss out on any of the action.”

[Peevemor]

Have Hearts changed the goals with regards to season tickets and what they could expect to see or was this always the case?...

It looks to me that they've shifted the goalposts - they're saying the same on JKB.

When they put their STs on sale, they definitely gave the impression that they'd be guaranteed to attend 18 matches. Now it looks like watching a stream is counting as attending.

Tsk tsk...

[04Sauzee]

As per my above post the attachment would show their fans have been screwed over again. Shame

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... wonder how long he will be waiting for an answer


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[Peevemor]

As per my above post the attachment would show their fans have been screwed over again. Shame

"A 20/21 season ticket guarantees you 18 matches at Tynecastle Park."

[Rocky]

Think this might be the best part of the "shoot themselves in the foot yet again" announcement today:

"season ticket holders will get to watch the match for free as a thank you for their unwavering support"

That surely suggests it's some kind of freebie perk whilst at the very same time they're claiming that online viewing of matches was what people knew they were signing up to in the first place?

[Brummie_Hibs]

White Lies of Midlothian

[duffers]

Some hearts fans have paid £500 for a season ticket which will equate to roughly £28 a game on a stream. Yet some random can join hearts tv and get 2/3 games a month for £13. The club just continue to milk their fans and it’s absolutely glorious to watch

[CapitalGreen]

Some hearts fans have paid £500 for a season ticket which will equate to roughly £28 a game on a stream. Yet some random can join hearts tv and get 2/3 games a month for £13. The club just continue to milk their fans and it’s absolutely glorious to watch

Only 14 home league games for them this season so would actually be £36 per game.

[Rocky]

Some hearts fans have paid £500 for a season ticket which will equate to roughly £28 a game on a stream. Yet some random can join hearts tv and get 2/3 games a month for £13. The club just continue to milk their fans and it’s absolutely glorious to watch
That part isn't really much different to Hibs. The difference is that Hearts offered a guarantee which they're either now reneging on, or was intentionally vaguely worded in the first place.

[wallpaperman]

There is a fair amount of seethe on both kickback and twitter, it looks like Hearts badly worded pledge is coming back to bite them.

Realistically, not sure how else HMFC could have handled this, they are approaching it in a similar way to just about every club in Scotland, but the club must really be regretting how they marketed the season tickets.

There’s lots of tough talk from some fans that are not happy, but they always bend over and take it from their club, it’s in their DNA, ultimately they will take it as usual.

Surely a Budge statement must be imminent?

[matty_f]

Hearts are absolutely shameless with stuff like this, to give an 18 game guarantee “at Tyncastle Park” and then say it’s 14 games this season and 4 next season (if you renew) is taking the piss a bit.

[hibbyfraelibby]

1. They guaranteed 18 Home games in writing
2. They did not offer it as a streaming package because they offered it before the deal with Sky to allow domestic games to be streamed.
3. They are not part of the big boys contract so it was never a live stream restriction.
4. They have now done the sums and realised they are screwed after doing a 2021 cash flow projection
5. They're skint
6. Tick Tock as they say down Dalry Rd.

[duffers]

Only 14 home league games for them this season so would actually be £36 per game.

They will still have 4 carried over to next season

[duffers]

That part isn't really much different to Hibs. The difference is that Hearts offered a guarantee which they're either now reneging on, or was intentionally vaguely worded in the first place.

I’d say that it is massively different due to the reasons you have provided. Hibs never once missold there season ticket holders.

[Rocky]

I’d say that it is massively different due to the reasons you have provided. Hibs never once missold there season ticket holders.

I agree it's massively different but your previous post that I replied to didn't mention the guarantee.

[660]

I’m totally shocked that Hearts have mismanaged a COVID related issue

[JohnMcM]

I demand a Budge statement,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, now!:grr::grr::grr:

[mal]

They told their fans they wouldn't be getting offered refunds for the unfulfilled portion of last season, pleading poverty then spaffing tens of thousands (if not more) on pointless lawyers fees, so this feels entirely consistent.

If you don't want to be treated with contempt don't be a Hearts fan...

[Rumble de Thump]

The people managing Hearts lie, steal people's money, act like a bunch of amateurs (although it's not really an act) and blame everybody else for how terrible they are. I can't see this changing for the forseeeable future.

[Andy74]

I’m not really getting the issue. Did anyone think Hearts were in some way guaranteeing that fans could attend in person?

I thought it was really that they were entitled to watch 18 home games - which, like everyone else, will have to include streaming when fans aren’t allowed in.

[weecounty hibby]

Wait a minute, are we saying that hearts are a bunch of lying, double crossing, low life, cheating, back stabbing, untrustworthy, devious, dishonest, swindling, fraudster snakes??

Of course we are it's in their DNA. Never let them forget how much lying and cheating they have done in the past. Poppies, NHS, Big Hearts charity, McRae's Battalion trust etc.

[04Sauzee]

I’m not really getting the issue. Did anyone think Hearts were in some way guaranteeing that fans could attend in person?

I thought it was really that they were entitled to watch 18 home games - which, like everyone else, will have to include streaming when fans aren’t allowed in.

They were guaranteeing 18 matches at Tynecastle no matter what league they were in.

[calumhibee1]

They were guaranteeing 18 matches at Tynecastle no matter what league they were in.

I suppose you could argue that they are getting to see 18 matches at Tinycastle, just from their tv. They’ve definitely been intentionally vague or if it was unintentional then it’s very poorly worded though imo.

I honestly think they’ll stay down this season. Everything they do is a shambles, I don’t see them being much different on the park.

[04Sauzee]

I suppose you could argue that they are getting to see 18 matches at Tinycastle, just from their tv. They’ve definitely been intentionally vague or if it was unintentional then it’s very poorly worded though imo.

I honestly think they’ll stay down this season. Everything they do is a shambles, I don’t see them being much different on the park.

Correct it's been very poorly worded. What do you expect from a Hearts statement off course.

[04Sauzee]

The bit circled is also interesting as not sure how this can be classed as full value

[RitchieHibs]

If I was a jambo I'd be delighted that I was seeing less of the absolute dugs***e their team serves up no matter if I was being conned out of a wad of cash. :greengrin

[007]

It looks to me that they've shifted the goalposts - they're saying the same on JKB.

When they put their STs on sale, they definitely gave the impression that they'd be guaranteed to attend 18 matches. Now it looks like watching a stream is counting as attending.

Tsk tsk...

How very unlike Hearts to tell lies and break promises. 🤔 To do this to their own fans who've continually donated only for Budge to continually p**s their donations up the wall is hilarious.

I retract my statement from a day or 2 ago saying the new guy was doing a better job than Budge (based on the inactivity on the statement front). This one is a beauty of massive proportions. That said, it wasn't his gaffe giving out the 18 match promise but maybe this is his cack handed attempt to do something about it. Wonder if he was thinking that nobody would notice. 😂

[CMurdoch]

The bit circled is also interesting as not sure how this can be classed as full value

"Full value" is not defined.
Therefore the phrase "full value" is meaningless in that sentence.

Whether "full value" is received will be an interpretation made by each purchaser.
However, I expect most Hearts season ticket holders will feel duped.

Conversely, whilst I am not getting anywhere near what I would consider full value from my Hibs season ticket the difference is I had a reasonable idea of what I was getting into.

P.S. I was hoping to be back in the stadium for November.
That was me defining the longevity of the effect of Covid ........and getting it wrong:boo hoo:

[matty_f]

I’m not really getting the issue. Did anyone think Hearts were in some way guaranteeing that fans could attend in person?

I thought it was really that they were entitled to watch 18 home games - which, like everyone else, will have to include streaming when fans aren’t allowed in.

Those were pretty much the words used, what you need to keep in mind is that, at the time they went on sale, we didn’t know how long this situation would last, and we also knew that, if relegated, it was likely Hearts would start the season later, so the notion that supporters could get matches inside the stadium isn’t as outlandish as it seems now.

Hearts’ wording in their sales literature is very clearly describing standing games, and their fans are justifiably about about it.

[007]

The bit circled is also interesting as not sure how this can be classed as full value

Plus the bit that says "no-one will lose out". 🤣

Even though they've got a similar arrangement to all the Premiership clubs, it's the fact they were deliberately misled so they'd buy as many STs as possible that's so shameful.

[CapitalGreen]

I’m not really getting the issue. Did anyone think Hearts were in some way guaranteeing that fans could attend in person?

I thought it was really that they were entitled to watch 18 home games - which, like everyone else, will have to include streaming when fans aren’t allowed in.

A fan enquired about the guarantee earlier in the summer and Hearts confirmed that the guarantee was for attending matches in person at Tynecastle.

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2020_09/37FFD57B-34E2-45B2-9089-1EBD2392315A.jpeg.2f1811b51c8c0314c61125ecf6f4538d .jpeg

[JohnMcM]

A fan enquired about the guarantee earlier in the summer and Hearts confirmed that the guarantee was for attending matches in person at Tynecastle.

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2020_09/37FFD57B-34E2-45B2-9089-1EBD2392315A.jpeg.2f1811b51c8c0314c61125ecf6f4538d .jpeg
That doesn't look like an 'official club reply' to me, more like a reply to an e-mail or something like that?

[Andy74]

So Hearts fans are just clicking that fans aren’t back in football stadiums?

[matty_f]

So Hearts fans are just clicking that fans aren’t back in football stadiums?

Not that surprising when you consider how long it took them to click that they were being relegated.


Going back to the point about Hearts marketing for the season tickets, they 100% pushed them as 18 “in the flesh” games, i remember it because, as is usual for them, they were having a bit of a dig about us specifically not guaranteeing games in the flesh with the communications that were coming out of Hibs at the time.

[007]

A fan enquired about the guarantee earlier in the summer and Hearts confirmed that the guarantee was for attending matches in person at Tynecastle.

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2020_09/37FFD57B-34E2-45B2-9089-1EBD2392315A.jpeg.2f1811b51c8c0314c61125ecf6f4538d .jpeg


That doesn't look like an 'official club reply' to me, more like a reply to an e-mail or something like that?

If it has come from someone within the club using a club email address replying to a Season Ticket query then that should be official enough. Refunds or arbitration in the Small Claims Court. 😂 Leslie Deans has ruled himself out as Hearts' defence lawyer.

Well, well, well, Hearts in their very own mis-selling scandal
à la Banks and PPI.

[Green Man]

A fan enquired about the guarantee earlier in the summer and Hearts confirmed that the guarantee was for attending matches in person at Tynecastle.

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2020_09/37FFD57B-34E2-45B2-9089-1EBD2392315A.jpeg.2f1811b51c8c0314c61125ecf6f4538d .jpeg

That’s an hilariously poorly worded sentence. “The likelihood of fans attending is unlikely” 😂

[CapitalGreen]

That doesn't look like an 'official club reply' to me, more like a reply to an e-mail or something like that?

That’s exactly what it is. As I stated in my post a fan enquired about the guarantee and that was the response from the club.

[bingo70]

So Hearts fans are just clicking that fans aren’t back in football stadiums?

Imo they should take someone to court about that.

£10m seems a reasonable figure, just to make sure they’ve got a case though someone better check it with an Edinburgh based conveyancing solicitor. They’d definitely know

[Juniper Greens]

There must be a way to blame Doncaster and Lawell for this?!

[bingo70]

There must be a way to blame Doncaster and Lawell for this?!

Why stop at those two? They should blame every other club in Scottish football apart from Inverness and Partick.

Rob the other clubs of the maroon pound.

[Bostonhibby]

So Hearts fans are just clicking that fans aren’t back in football stadiums?Can I just point out what an absolutely cracking job Mrs doctor Budge is still doing.

I never thought Romanov's era would be matched but she's put a whole new spin on it and the fans are just marching along zombie like.

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[Bostonhibby]

That’s an hilariously poorly worded sentence. “The likelihood of fans attending is unlikely” [emoji23]They didn't get to where they are today by having unlikelihoods being likelihoods.



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[007]

This looks like a job for New Guy to come along and save the day (once he's found a phone box so he can put on his cape and his pants on over his trousers). Or will he just hide and do nothing. 🤔

[Dr What If?]

We really do have a lot to thank Hearts for, the abrupt end to the season and no Euro's left a horrific footballing void. Just like back in the Great War however, when the Empire was creaking under the might of the Kaiser.....up stood Heart of Midlothian. Their complete lack of ability to grasp the fact that something far more serious than football was gripping the world lead them to their fight, their crusade for justice. Success would have been predictable but their failure, their relegation was poetry.
It didn't end there, no compensation and a truncated season, they even had to watch other clubs enjoy their holidays by training on pitches they couldn't use, pitches they tell the world are 'theirs'.
Is it too much to ask for more? I know I'm being greedy and for that I'm sorry.....but to see them take their last seasons form into this year would be some level of compensation for the ****ty year we have all had to endure.

[Rumble de Thump]

There must be a way to blame Doncaster and Lawell for this?!

As Pablo on Kickback says:

We're a victim of circumstances yet again.

If we hadn't been going through the bull**** thrown at us by Scottish football, we'd never have needed to make the statement on 18 games which was made at a time when we didn't know for certain which league we were going to be playing in. Or even if the Championship had played the full season, it wouldn't have been an issue.

[calumhibee1]

As Pablo on Kickback says:

We're a victim of circumstances yet again.

If we hadn't been going through the bull**** thrown at us by Scottish football, we'd never have needed to make the statement on 18 games which was made at a time when we didn't know for certain which league we were going to be playing in. Or even if the Championship had played the full season, it wouldn't have been an issue.

They were the only people that didn’t know what league they would be playing in. Everyone else knew.

[Since452]

Just think. If they weren't so ***** on the park none of this would be happening. They can blame, Covid-19, Neil Doncaster, Nicola Sturgeon, St Mirren, the weather, whoever or whatever they want but they are there because they are *****. The situation is unfortunate yes but if they had won more than 4 games by March they wouldn't be crying about any of this. Season tickets included. Only their own ****ty club to blame. Snivelling little runts. Suck it up.

[PatHead]

Just think. If they weren't so ***** on the park none of this would be happening. They can blame, Covid-19, Neil Doncaster, Nicola Sturgeon, St Mirren, the weather, whoever or whatever they want but they are there because they are *****. The situation is unfortunate yes but if they had won more than 4 games by March they wouldn't be crying about any of this. Season tickets included. Only their own ****ty club to blame. Snivelling little runts. Suck it up.

Just think,if they had beaten At Mitten in the last game of the season.....

[Bostonhibby]

As Pablo on Kickback says:

We're a victim of circumstances yet again.

If we hadn't been going through the bull**** thrown at us by Scottish football, we'd never have needed to make the statement on 18 games which was made at a time when we didn't know for certain which league we were going to be playing in. Or even if the Championship had played the full season, it wouldn't have been an issue.If only Budge hadn't chosen , yet again, to demonstrate her lack of mastery of when to say nothing and when it is the right time how to make a sensible statement rather than shooting from the hip to please the idiots.

Budge must stay.

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[jeffers]

Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

[Prof. Shaggy]

That’s an hilariously poorly worded sentence. “The likelihood of fans attending is unlikely” 😂

No, it is worse.

... likeliness.....??

[Jack]

Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

I dont think many supporters would have expected to be in the stadium early doors.

However the original hertz statement when they were flogging their season tickets was ambiguous. Apparently when one of them got his crayons out and wrote to his club the reply said they would get their 18 games attending the stadium.

[04Sauzee]

Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

Because to some that's how it's worded. I read it as the season ticket would guarantee the purchaser 18 live games at Tynecastle, that could be carried lon to next season.
Also at the time of the statement im pretty sute there was no agreement in place regarding streaming games so not sure why Hearts fans would think it was anything other than to sit in a stand at Tynecastle.

I genuinely believe the Hearts fans have been deliberately screwed over.

[brog]

No, it is worse.

... likeliness.....??

Indeed!! Could that be the new term of reverence for Budgie, Your Likeliness!!

[007]

Because to some that's how it's worded. I read it as the season ticket would guarantee the purchaser 18 live games at Tynecastle, that could be carried lon to next season.
Also at the time of the statement im pretty sute there was no agreement in place regarding streaming games so not sure why Hearts fans would think it was anything other than to sit in a stand at Tynecastle.

I genuinely believe the Hearts fans have been deliberately screwed over.

She does treat them like mugs, because she can and does get away with it.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I genuinely believe the Hearts fans have been deliberately screwed over.

You could even feel sorry for them...but then again😉

[CMurdoch]

Maybe missing something here but why did they make the statement about their season ticket guaranteeing them attendance at 18 home games ? Not aware of any other clubs making similar guarantees. I bought my season ticket with no such expectation. I’m guessing the Hearts fans did too, but having made that promise can’t see how they can back out of it. Probably just tap their benefactors for more donations. Talk about wasting money....

Not for the 1st time Mrs B didn't think it through properly.
Like a lot of folk she obviously thought fans would be back into grounds by the time their league started in October and backed her opinion with a publicity grabbing season ticket guarantee.

I thought we would have been back at Easter Road for the Celtic game on the 21st November and I also remember an early Jason Leitch appearance on "Off The Ball" where he said we would be back to normal in Autumn.

Now reality has struck and Hearts have been forced to play an embarrassing game of semantics with their supporters or go bankrupt.
Even after a pay cut Messrs Berra, Naismith, Damour & Boyce are costing Hearts circa £100k a month. Add to that the rest of the playing squads wages, golf mans salary, the rent of the Oriam and a large unnecessary legal bill and you have a need to pull a fast one to hold things together.

[Joe6-2]

Indeed!! Could that be the new term of reverence for Budgie, Your Likeliness!!

😂😂😂

[GordonHFC]

Half and half scarves?

Inverness Caledonian Thistle written on 90% of it and Hearts on the wee bit at the end.

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Surely the other way round with ICT on one end and Heart of Midlothian but we are actually no longer in Midlothian on the big bit?

[Bostonhibby]

Surely the other way round with ICT on one end and Heart of Midlothian but we are actually no longer in Midlothian on the big bit?[emoji23]

A real clash of the titans to see who is bigliest?

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[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/jamtarts/status/1306942086017581056?s=21

Replies to that tweet are unreal.

Few of them have really lost the plot over the last few months.

[RitchieHibs]

https://twitter.com/jamtarts/status/1306942086017581056?s=21

Replies to that tweet are unreal.

Few of them have really lost the plot over the last few months.

Who cares?

They are an irrelevance.

And completely dugs^^^e

[Keith_M]

I presumed the 18 home game guarantee was intended to cover matches in a curtailed season in the event that the relegation was confirmed.

So, they get 14 games this season where they either attend in person or view it over a live stream (same as Hibs). Then 4 games are rolled over into the following season, for which they get a credit against their renewed season ticket.

If they've actually worded it as 'attend in person' (or similar), then that does indeed open a whole can of worms.



I sense a plea to Benny Factor for extra funds

[Eyrie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Anderson wouldn't invest in a company that performs as badly as Hearts, so at what point will he demonstrate his professional ability and start questioning the mismanagement of his funding?

[WhileTheChief..]

He doesn’t invest in Hearts at all, he’s donated money and won’t be getting any sort of return.

Be interesting to see if he does become more involved as a board member or shareholder but I don’t see it. The problem with being fan owned is that it prevents wealthy benefactors taking a large stake and pumping money in.

My guess is he won’t be involved once Budge moves on.

[Since452]

He doesn’t invest in Hearts at all, he’s donated money and won’t be getting any sort of return.

Be interesting to see if he does become more involved as a board member or shareholder but I don’t see it. The problem with being fan owned is that it prevents wealthy benefactors taking a large stake and pumping money in.

My guess is he won’t be involved once Budge moves on.

I've never been keen on the fan ownership thing for that reason.

[Dashing Bob S]

She does treat them like mugs, because she can and does get away with it.

Why would she possibly treat them in any other way?

[matty_f]

https://twitter.com/jamtarts/status/1306942086017581056?s=21

Replies to that tweet are unreal.

Few of them have really lost the plot over the last few months.

They’re completely delusional about what actually happened to them, to the point where they don’t actually understand it.

[Kato]

They’re completely delusional about what actually happened to them, to the point where they don’t actually understand it.

This is true. Reference coming from them about being bottom when the League ended dried up pretty soon. It was replaced by them being "singled out". Not surprised always been utter weirdos in their support. It feels like they think they are "at war", which is where they seem to be comfortable.

[RitchieHibs]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Anderson wouldn't invest in a company that performs as badly as Hearts, so at what point will he demonstrate his professional ability and start questioning the mismanagement of his funding?

I'm sure I read somewhere a wee while back that Baillie Gifford are relocating to Haymarket. Possibly cementing their jambo connection? Serious big money players.

[mjh]

Did we ever hear anything about allocation of costs following arbitration?

[Lendo]

I'm sure I read somewhere a wee while back that Baillie Gifford are relocating to Haymarket. Possibly cementing their jambo connection? Serious big money players.

They have just built that new office development just off St Andrew’s Square next to the Edinburgh Grand.

[Billy Whizz]

They have just built that new office development just off St Andrew’s Square next to the Edinburgh Grand.

BG have just taken a long term lease on the office development, on the old car park at Haymarket

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/baillie-gifford-agrees-haymarket-deal-5ztj88jt3

[Monts]

They’re completely delusional about what actually happened to them, to the point where they don’t actually understand it.

What is it they think Brechin did?

[matty_f]

What is it they think Brechin did?

Voted to relegate Hearts but not themselves, completely missing the point that there is no automatic relegation from the league that Brechin are in.

[Irish_Steve]

Indeed!! Could that be the new term of reverence for Budgie, Your Likeliness!!

The Likely Ladettes....you need to be over 50 to get that one lol

[Peevemor]

Erse! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/164bbc31abfa7a331b1330cf819cb78b.jpg

[stoneyburn hibs]

Erse! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/164bbc31abfa7a331b1330cf819cb78b.jpg

It's hard to keep up, I thought he just pished himself.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Erse! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/164bbc31abfa7a331b1330cf819cb78b.jpg

Lord Pishy Breeks can now add Baron Nutela Kegs to his collection of epitaths😉💩

[Col2]

Not sure if others have thought this but Hearts are in a very difficult position given the expected continued rise in Covid. Nobody wants any shutdown for so many reasons, but it’s not impossible that the championship and below find themselves in a position where they cannot play games (can’t afford testing, don’t have enough players etc) and while that might lead to automatic default of result the more likelihood is the authorities having to intervene.

Worse than that IF we do end up in another lockdown as a nation for a say a month or two (again that would be a total disaster on so many fronts) it will get to a point that it’s impossible to play enough games to confirm a final position in the league. Eg if they can only play say 18 games (half of original total) and can’t finish the league before summer then the SPFL may be forced to call the league without promotion/relegation.

Imagine the seethe.

[Keith_M]

Not sure if others have thought this but Hearts are in a very difficult position given the expected continued rise in Covid. Nobody wants any shutdown for so many reasons, but it’s not impossible that the championship and below find themselves in a position where they cannot play games (can’t afford testing, don’t have enough players etc) and while that might lead to automatic default of result the more likelihood is the authorities having to intervene.

Worse than that IF we do end up in another lockdown as a nation for a say a month or two (again that would be a total disaster on so many fronts) it will get to a point that it’s impossible to play enough games to confirm a final position in the league. Eg if they can only play say 18 games (half of original total) and can’t finish the league before summer then the SPFL may be forced to call the league without promotion/relegation.

Imagine the seethe.



Surely Benny Factor could pay for all the testing himself?

Or they could use the donations from FofHearts?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Anderson wouldn't invest in a company that performs as badly as Hearts, so at what point will he demonstrate his professional ability and start questioning the mismanagement of his funding?

I've been bemused by this for a while too.

[Bostonhibby]

Voted to relegate Hearts but not themselves, completely missing the point that there is no automatic relegation from the league that Brechin are in.Was face to face with family yam today and he was very vocal about the very same point. Brechin now bad.

Their chairman had too much clout for someone running a small club apparently. Budge is back on his good books again but not really clear why.

Also thinks the Championship should be scrapped this season so all the "wee"clubs can go to the wall, Hearts will survive because they've got Budge and "Jim" Anderson who will never allow Hearts to die.

Couldn't gey a word in.I think family yam is missing the fitba.

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[oldbutdim]

Was face to face with family yam today and he was very vocal about the very same point. Brechin now bad.

Their chairman had too much clout for someone running a small club apparently. Budge is back on his good books again but not really clear why.

Also thinks the Championship should be scrapped this season so all the "wee"clubs can go to the wall, Hearts will survive because they've got Budge and "Jim" Anderson who will never allow Hearts to die.

Couldn't gey a word in.I think family yam is missing the fitba.

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I've got a family yam too.

He used to be fairly well house broken until the 'big team wee team' stuff started. He had a lot of troubles with wee after that.
Quite strange how he lost grip with reality after the last year.... expelegated...........
Mrs Doctor Budge has done a brilliant job of brainwashing...... not her fault or Craig's......

All that window licking hasn't been wasted.

[Sioux]

Is just a coincidence that Hearts is an anagram of Haters?

:wink:

[hibbyfraelibby]

Is just a coincidence that Hearts is an anagram of Haters?

:wink:

...also Shater

[Iggy Pope]

Was face to face with family yam today and he was very vocal about the very same point. Brechin now bad.

Their chairman had too much clout for someone running a small club apparently. Budge is back on his good books again but not really clear why.

Also thinks the Championship should be scrapped this season so all the "wee"clubs can go to the wall, Hearts will survive because they've got Budge and "Jim" Anderson who will never allow Hearts to die.

Couldn't gey a word in.I think family yam is missing the fitba.

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I’d be moving to the other Boston to get out of earshot.

[Kato]

Also thinks the Championship should be scrapped this season so all the "wee"clubs can go to the wall


Nice thoughts during a global pandemic.


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[Sammy7nil]

Did we ever hear anything about allocation of costs following arbitration?

Not heard a peep I can only assume some deal was done and it is in no ones interest to go public.

[FilipinoHibs]

I've been bemused by this for a while too.

Probably when the Tech companies take a dive as he did according to CapitalGreen in March when these companies stock prices were down heavily on Covid. He deprioritised his donations to Hearts. Tech stocks have taken a 12% tumble over the last two weeks with his big holding Tesla down 25% at one point. There looks to have been a speculative bubble in Tech companies driven by small investors using leveraged derivatives. That bubble looks to be bursting impacting Benny's fund and net wealth. The well may be about to go dry.

[Brightside]

If we have another lockdown all the non Prem teams are in serious bother.

[Hibby70]

...also Shater

Or Re-shat or arseth.

[Juniper Greens]

Probably when the Tech companies take a dive as he did according to CapitalGreen in March when these companies stock prices were down heavily on Covid. He deprioritised his donations to Hearts. Tech stocks have taken a 12% tumble over the last two weeks with his big holding Tesla down 25% at one point. There looks to have been a speculative bubble in Tech companies driven by small investors using leveraged derivatives. That bubble looks to be bursting impacting Benny's fund and net wealth. The well may be about to go dry.

I don't think this is right. The BG fund has been one of the best performing over the last 12 months. I don't see why he wouldn't be invested in a similar manner, or even just in his own fund. I think be has done OK during COVID, which is what has led to the donations to the SFA and women's football

[Bostonhibby]

I’d be moving to the other Boston to get out of earshot.[emoji16]

Always nice to see his Hibs supporting wife and daughter.

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[147lothian]

There's a 32 page thread "Scottish Premier League football for anyone who gives a ****" on JKB. They comment on almost every game but they are apparently not really interested, very strange.

[Dashing Bob S]

If we have another lockdown all the non Prem teams are in serious bother.

I think we should have another lockdown but it should only apply to the non premiership league.

[Brightside]

I think we should have another lockdown but it should only apply to the non premiership league.

That’s what will happen as they don’t have the testing facilities.

[147lothian]

All it would take would be for someone to sneeze in that windy seaside league for the virus to spread and the games a bogy.

[Jack]

With the threat of a second wave of Covid-19 on the way and more restrictions about to be announced what are the odds of the start of the lower leagues being delayed?

Fairly high I'd suspect.

Shame, I feel sorry for all these 'wee diddy' clubs.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

Was face to face with family yam today and he was very vocal about the very same point. Brechin now bad.

Their chairman had too much clout for someone running a small club apparently. Budge is back on his good books again but not really clear why.

Also thinks the Championship should be scrapped this season so all the "wee"clubs can go to the wall, Hearts will survive because they've got Budge and "Jim" Anderson who will never allow Hearts to die.

Couldn't gey a word in.I think family yam is missing the fitba.

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In what way does the Championship being scrapped help them back in to the Premiership? Even if a Premiership team went bust there is no guarantee that they would be the team asked to take their place.

[Since452]

Let me get this right.. In around a decade Hearts have gone from outgrowing Hibs and having Celtic as their biggest rivals to having big huge rivalries with Brechin City and St Mirren? Really?

[bingo70]

With the threat of a second wave of Covid-19 on the way and more restrictions about to be announced what are the odds of the start of the lower leagues being delayed?

Fairly high I'd suspect.

Shame, I feel sorry for all these 'wee diddy' clubs.

It is a shame for the lower league clubs but the SPFL really need to focus on the elite clubs at this time.

[Bostonhibby]

In what way does the Championship being scrapped help them back in to the Premiership? Even if a Premiership team went bust there is no guarantee that they would be the team asked to take their place.Think he's lashing out at everyone who isn't Partick, Inverness or Sevco. All the "diddy teams" shouldn't have equal voting rights with big teams like Hearts......etc. Lawell has Scottish football sewn up and he doesn't want hearts with Anderson's money in the top flight[emoji16] I could go on..

I did remind him Budge never once tabled anything to suggest a change in voting rights when she was on the board of the SPFL or before she managed to steer big spending Hearts to the bottom of the league.

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[Peevemor]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Anderson wouldn't invest in a company that performs as badly as Hearts, so at what point will he demonstrate his professional ability and start questioning the mismanagement of his funding?We've all had one of those mates who you'd rather just buy a few pints rather than give him yet another sub and put up with his apologies/excuses the next 5-6 times you see him. I reckon that's how Anderson sees Hearts.

[Peevemor]

That’s what will happen as they don’t have the testing facilities.Was Anderson's donation not to facilitate testing in the lower leagues?

[04Sauzee]

Dazjambo hoping to get one right on kickback

dazajmbo

Posted 1 hour ago
Andy Halliday is happy with a deal we have offered him. Would be surprised if he didn't sign

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[JohnM1875]

Dazjambo hoping to get one right on kickback

dazajmbo

Posted 1 hour ago
Andy Halliday is happy with a deal we have offered him. Would be surprised if he didn't sign

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Hope he's wrong. Started to like Halliday after his Open Goal appearances.

[mjhibby]

It’s a surreal place kickback. Apparently we’re *******, the spl is mince and were a one man team,squirrel. They are sure after tonking east fife they will beat us in the semis. The odd guy pipes up to see we are a tougher team this season but kickback doesn’t do reality. They are carping about loaning zlamal to St Mirren saying Queen Anne doesn’t care what the fans think. Totally weird place.

[Kato]

Totally weird place.

Any message board merely reflects it's contributors. On average that place is classed as "rabidly bonkers". Way back when, in the 90's, it was actually not too bad. You could go on there and have a conversation about football with several posters, along with the expected abuse which happens on every footy board.

I reckon the last of their truly decent posters were ssshd-up about 15 years ago. Thinking of that, that's about when that Russian crook guy bought them and not "believing" was a sign of heresy. There's still sensible-ish people there but the ratio of full on moon-howlers is huge.

[ancient hibee]

Probably when the Tech companies take a dive as he did according to CapitalGreen in March when these companies stock prices were down heavily on Covid. He deprioritised his donations to Hearts. Tech stocks have taken a 12% tumble over the last two weeks with his big holding Tesla down 25% at one point. There looks to have been a speculative bubble in Tech companies driven by small investors using leveraged derivatives. That bubble looks to be bursting impacting Benny's fund and net wealth. The well may be about to go dry.

Baillie Gifford sold a chunk of Tesla before the price fell. Anderson's Scottish Mortgage trust is at a record high.The only effect on Anderson's net wealth has been to increase it considerably.

[Peevemor]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

"Hearts goalkeeper Zdenek Zlamal has expressed his gratitude to St Mirren for giving him the chance to play Scottish Premiership football again."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-keeper-zdenek-zlamal-has-his-say-strange-loan-move-st-mirren-2978206

[Northernhibee]

Hope he's wrong. Started to like Halliday after his Open Goal appearances.

The one on one interviews with Simon Ferry are good as he seems to get the interviewee at ease quickly, but the Open Goal Youtube videos are cringeworthy. Three neds thinking that they're absolutely hilarious and filling up half of the show with crap banter about what they've been up to.

[FilipinoHibs]

Baillie Gifford sold a chunk of Tesla before the price fell. Anderson's Scottish Mortgage trust is at a record high.The only effect on Anderson's net wealth has been to increase it considerably.

Well the rest of the tech sector is falling still so the fund must be going down in value. Looks like the bubble is bursting as in March when he pulled back on his charity work. Should have kept his Tesla holding as outperforming the market and his fund. Looks like he sold during the big price decline as fund falls in line with Tesla but does nit bounce with Tesla rebound. Fund now heading south with all stocks.

[WhileTheChief..]

I don't think this is right. The BG fund has been one of the best performing over the last 12 months. I don't see why he wouldn't be invested in a similar manner, or even just in his own fund. I think be has done OK during COVID, which is what has led to the donations to the SFA and women's football

Baillie Gifford have something like 3 of the top 5 performing funds this year in the UK.

They had more inflows than most other funds and the Scottish Mortgage Trust has been the standout investment trust for the best part of a decade.

Do any reading up on BG and it’s all positive. They are a massive success story.

Filipinos take on things is just wrong.

[WhileTheChief..]

Well the rest of the tech sector is falling still so the fund must be going down in value. Looks like the bubble is bursting as in March when he pulled back on his charity work. Should have kept his Tesla holding as outperforming the market and his fund. Looks like he sold during the big price decline as fund falls in line with Tesla but does nit bounce with Tesla rebound. Fund now heading south with all stocks.

The only reason they sold Tesla was down to concentration levels within their retail funds.

They can’t hold more than 10% of one company within their portfolio and due to Tesla’s amazing performance it pushed their holding above this level.

They made around £12B from that sale. To put it in context, BG started buying shares in Tesla at around $30. Today they are trading at $445.

https://citywire.co.uk/investment-trust-insider/news/baillie-gifford-scores-12bn-gain-in-a-year-on-tesla-bet/a1387830

[CapitalGreen]

Filipinos take on things is just wrong.

If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

[matty_f]

I was talking to my son yesterday ahead of the game about green financial gulf that exists between the two Glasgow sides and the rest of Scottish football, and how it makes any sort of analysis on games involving those two almost absurd. Sportscene, for example, fawning over Ryan Kent, who at £7m probably equals the cost of our full squad.

Really, the emphasis should have been on Paul McGinn and how he dealt with the danger by and large.

We then started talking about how Hibs should, by the same token, regularly beat teams that don’t have either the financial clout that we have, or the advantages that our set up give us (training centre, catering, youth academy, dedicated recruitment team, an analysis team etc), and how it we capitalise on that we could really kick on (as per Ron Gordon’s plan!).

Then we applied that logic to Hearts and they have terrific facilities available to them at Orium, outspent us by a considerable amount, and have fans chucking in millions per year.

To find yourself the worst team in the league over an eighteen month period, relegated out of the top division, and unable to play games still is a real achievement. You’d almost have to work at being that bad.

They should have been comfortably third based on budget etc. It’s hard to overstate the extent of the bad management of Levein and Stendel. To overcome all those advantages and still get relegated in the most hilarious fashion, takes some doing.

I almost have a grudging respect for them for managing it.

[stantonhibby]

If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

Lol.....very true!

[TrinityHibs]

Well the rest of the tech sector is falling still so the fund must be going down in value. Looks like the bubble is bursting as in March when he pulled back on his charity work. Should have kept his Tesla holding as outperforming the market and his fund. Looks like he sold during the big price decline as fund falls in line with Tesla but does nit bounce with Tesla rebound. Fund now heading south with all stocks.

I don’t think you could be more wrong if you tried. Just check the Morningstar performance review of SMIT. It’s up 68% on the year to date and continues to have a significant holding in Tesla and Amazon.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

😂😂😂

[Seveno]

Romanov is still killing that club. A generation were brought up to believe their superiority and god-given right to win. The whole story of dominating Scottish football, winning the European Champions League and destroying Hibs was swallowed and they still believe.

Their tiny minds cannot comprehend what is happening so they look for conspiracy theories. Every one else hates them and are our to get them. A self-fulfilling prophesy.

[H113EE5]

Baillie Gifford have something like 3 of the top 5 performing funds this year in the UK.

They had more inflows than most other funds and the Scottish Mortgage Trust has been the standout investment trust for the best part of a decade.

Do any reading up on BG and it’s all positive. They are a massive success story.

Filipinos take on things is just wrong.

I agree for what it's worth. Scottish Mortgage have been a great earner for me and the g/kids over the past 10 years. Highly recommend.

[oneone73]

Romanov is still killing that club. A generation were brought up to believe their superiority and god-given right to win. The whole story of dominating Scottish football, winning the European Champions League and destroying Hibs was swallowed and they still believe.

Their tiny minds cannot comprehend what is happening so they look for conspiracy theories. Every one else hates them and are our to get them. A self-fulfilling prophesy.
A generation? He was there for what, eight years?

[hibbyfraelibby]

A generation? He was there for what, eight years?

Agreed but their support act like spoiled wee 5 year olds so 8 years count as a mental generation

[Del Boy]

Championship chairmen already thinking season could be binned, genuinely hope that’s not the case, funny as it would be to see the Jambos raging even more.

[FilipinoHibs]

If you just assume the opposite of what FilipinoHibs says, you will typically be on the right track. His continued confidence in what he says despite his abysmal track record about Hearts benefactors is actually quite impressive.

Well Scottish Mortgage Trust down 3% on Monday. I was wrong on Benny being the benefactor but his fund is not immune to a market sell off as we saw in March and we are seeing now. And as CapitalGreen reported not only that Benny was a BG partner but he cut back on donations when the markets and his fund slumped in March. He will do so again if the same thing happens and it looks to be happening now. We will see.

[cocteautwin]

https://property.jll.co.uk/sale-land/land-sale-edinburgh-eh11-2nd-45720

I see the land of the old Tynecastle High school is up for sale. With their recent track record of construction project management it would be hilarious if they were to take this on and try and build something. The Budge family are probably round at James Anderson's the now trying to persuade him it's a good deal.

[Since452]

Championship chairmen already thinking season could be binned, genuinely hope that’s not the case, funny as it would be to see the Jambos raging even more.

The way it's going I'd be very surprised if the lower leagues start. A lot of part time clubs so the "bubble" doesn't really work there.

[Phil MaGlass]

The way it's going I'd be very surprised if the lower leagues start. A lot of part time clubs so the "bubble" doesn't really work there.

Hopefully none will go to the wall, with the exception of one of course.

[Since452]

I'd e surprised if the Betfred games go ahead with the ammount of part time sides taking part. Could wreak havoc with the Premiership fixtures if any of them are positive. The Premiership need to stay in the bubble imo. Hearts are testing regularly so think the SC game will be fine.

[The Count]

I'd e surprised if the Betfred games go ahead with the ammount of part time sides taking part. Could wreak havoc with the Premiership fixtures if any of them are positive. The Premiership need to stay in the bubble imo. Hearts are testing regularly so think the SC game will be fine.

For the intial games i would really be tempted to keep our first team squad in a seperate bubble and send a reserve team to play these lower league teams.If we get beat so be it but atleast we have isolated our first team squad from catching Covid from part time players.

[Stanton Spence]

I'd e surprised if the Betfred games go ahead with the ammount of part time sides taking part. Could wreak havoc with the Premiership fixtures if any of them are positive. The Premiership need to stay in the bubble imo. Hearts are testing regularly so think the SC game will be fine.I thought I read somewhere that they do have to test before the cup games or they forfeit the game 3 0?
I'm now thinking I must have misread the article??

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[Since452]

I thought I read somewhere that they do have to test before the cup games or they forfeit the game 3 0?
I'm now thinking I must have misread the article??

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You're probably right

[Since452]

For the intial games i would really be tempted to keep our first team squad in a seperate bubble and send a reserve team to play these lower league teams.If we get beat so be it but atleast we have isolated our first team squad from catching Covid from part time players.

I think we'll end up doing something like that

[Stanton Spence]

You're probably rightNot often that happens bud

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[mal]

For the intial games i would really be tempted to keep our first team squad in a seperate bubble and send a reserve team to play these lower league teams.If we get beat so be it but atleast we have isolated our first team squad from catching Covid from part time players.

I would expect us to be fulfilling our duty of care and not risk exposing any of our players if we believe these games are unsafe. I do think we'll field largely a reserve side in these games though due to fixture congestion next month.

[PatHead]

I would expect us to be fulfilling our duty of care and not risk exposing any of our players if we believe these games are unsafe. I do think we'll field largely a reserve side in these games though due to fixture congestion next month.

We may have some called up for international duty.

[horseflesh]

For the intial games i would really be tempted to keep our first team squad in a seperate bubble and send a reserve team to play these lower league teams.If we get beat so be it but atleast we have isolated our first team squad from catching Covid from part time players.

You can’t do that! You need to have a duty of care to everyone you employ, they’re not cannon fodder!

[Magpie]

I'd e surprised if the Betfred games go ahead with the ammount of part time sides taking part. Could wreak havoc with the Premiership fixtures if any of them are positive. The Premiership need to stay in the bubble imo. Hearts are testing regularly so think the SC game will be fine.

Saw a report yesterday that Leyton Orient have recorded a lot of positive tests after Spurs funded their testing on Saturday and the game is expected to be cancelled today with Spurs given the win due to no schedule availability to reschedule.

If Spurs didn’t fund the testing for them then it could have caused major issues for them in regards to the three competitions they are currently having to play over a short period of time had their players/staff caught the virus.

EFL has told League Two clubs in England that regular testing is not necessary, and that testing before the season begins and half way through the season is the only requirement.

I feel like we are going to have a lot of issues with the lower league clubs up here.

[The Count]

You can’t do that! You need to have a duty of care to everyone you employ, they’re not cannon fodder!

Cannon fodder is a tad strong i would suggest !!!! I am not General Haig !!!!

[Caversham Green]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

"Hearts goalkeeper Zdenek Zlamal has expressed his gratitude to St Mirren for giving him the chance to play Scottish Premiership football again."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-keeper-zdenek-zlamal-has-his-say-strange-loan-move-st-mirren-2978206

That article repeats the myth that Hearts were voted down. Not a single club voted to relegate them - they voted to curtail the season, which was the only sensible decision. Hearts were relegated because they were bottom of the Premiership by four clear points and easily the worst team in the league. That's what happens every season.

[JimBHibees]

I thought I read somewhere that they do have to test before the cup games or they forfeit the game 3 0?
I'm now thinking I must have misread the article??

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I thought that lower league teams had to test when due to play Premier teams hence the reason Zlamal was one of the few keepers who could go to St Mirren given Hearts are the only or one of the few lower league teams testing.

[Stanton Spence]

I thought that lower league teams had to test when due to play Premier teams hence the reason Zlamal was one of the few keepers who could go to St Mirren given Hearts are the only or one of the few lower league teams testing.I think you could be right Jim

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[calumhibee1]

That article repeats the myth that Hearts were voted down. Not a single club voted to relegate them - they voted to curtail the season, which was the only sensible decision. Hearts were relegated because they were bottom of the Premiership by four clear points and easily the worst team in the league. That's what happens every season.

:agree:

Same thing gets trotted out with the Huns. Piss poor journalism and just helps to perpetuate the myth they were victimised and that teams voted to expel/demote etc because of who they are.

[DIXIHIBS]

As it is starting to look a distinct possibility that the championship season could be delayed further or even mothballed...what happens to the scottish semi? On one hand its would be hilarious to watch another meltdown in gorgie if they have to spend another season down the leagues....i really want to get this semi final played.

[The 90+2]

As it is starting to look a distinct possibility that the championship season could be delayed further or even mothballed...what happens to the scottish semi? On one hand its would be hilarious to watch another meltdown in gorgie if they have to spend another season down the leagues....i really want to get this semi final played.


Link doesn't work :confused::greengrin

[Saturday Boy]

[QUOTE=The 90+2;6306977]Link doesn't work :confused::greengrin[/QUOTE

Best post on this thread 😂

[Greenworld]

As it is starting to look a distinct possibility that the championship season could be delayed further or even mothballed...what happens to the scottish semi? On one hand its would be hilarious to watch another meltdown in gorgie if they have to spend another season down the leagues....i really want to get this semi final played.The way things are shaping up it looks very like scottish teams out with the premiership might be forced to abandon the season before it starts.
Its a shambles but its looking like a bye into the final for Hibs ..

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[HoboHarry]

The way things are shaping up it looks very like scottish teams out with the premiership might be forced to abandon the season before it starts.
Its a shambles but its looking like a bye into the final for Hibs ..

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Don't see why the Hearts game would be stopped? Hearts would be justified in whining about no match practice but that doesn't stop the game going ahead.....

[Since452]

Link doesn't work :confused::greengrin

I admit I tried to click on it

[JimBHibees]

Don't see why the Hearts game would be stopped? Hearts would be justified in whining about no match practice but that doesn't stop the game going ahead.....

Hearts have been testing no reason they cant play games whether that be friendly or competitive

[04Sauzee]

Hearts have been testing no reason they cant play games whether that be friendly or competitive

They have been playing friendly games, they played Eat Fife the other day, they just playes Falkirk today winning 3-0 and they have a game soon against Partick Thistle at Tynecastle that they arentest streaming.

[JimBHibees]

They have been playing friendly games, they played Eat Fife the other day, they just playes Falkirk today winning 3-0 and they have a game soon against Partick Thistle at Tynecastle that they arentest streaming.

Sounds like they are flying.

[Since452]

They have been playing friendly games, they played Eat Fife the other day, they just playes Falkirk today winning 3-0 and they have a game soon against Partick Thistle at Tynecastle that they arentest streaming.

Stendels got them playing Hearts are back

[SteveHFC]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpeg

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpegAre equally classy scarves available?



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[snedzuk]

They have been playing friendly games, they played Eat Fife the other day, they just playes Falkirk today winning 3-0 and they have a game soon against Partick Thistle at Tynecastle that they arentest streaming.

Have they re signed Nade?

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpegWhich reminds me, Hearts can't be that happy with this, is this really what their all important "special relationships " have come to?

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[Peevemor]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpegWell that's pish.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpeg

Begs the question
Can we afford to make such powerful enemies?!

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpeg

I'd forgotten already.

[Bostonhibby]

Begs the question
Can we afford to make such powerful enemies?!It's Inverness I feel sorry for, their wee man jumped up and down to be relevant at Hearts and look what happened to them. Never even made the flag.

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[Carheenlea]

Stranraer, Heart of Midlothian and Partick Thistle - Scottish footballs great triumvirate

[Irish_Steve]

Stranraer, Heart of Midlothian and Partick Thistle - Scottish footballs great trumpets

toot toot

[Radium]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpeg

... just waiting for them to release the half-n-half scarves


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[007]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpeg


... just waiting for them to release the half-n-half scarves


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Or half-n-half-n-half.

[Greenworld]

Hearts have been testing no reason they cant play games whether that be friendly or competitiveI get that I'm suggesting that testing may be compulsory for all leagues going forward. That would mean no football for the lower leagues i understand most cannot afford it . Hearts could play the semi and thats there season over [emoji16][emoji16]

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[Bostonhibby]

I get that I'm suggesting that testing may be compulsory for all leagues going forward. That would mean no football for the lower leagues i understand most cannot afford it . Hearts could play the semi and thats there season over [emoji16][emoji16]

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using TapatalkIf I was Hearts I wouldn't have spent all that money specifically to avoid relegation. They'd have been able to play football this season if they'd used it differently.

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[HFC93]

It's incredible what an irrelevance Hearts have become. Forgot they existed until this thread popped up.

[HoboHarry]

If I was Hearts I wouldn't have spent all that money specifically to avoid relegation. They'd have been able to play football this season if they'd used it differently.

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Spending money wasn't the issue, it was spending it on crap players and geriatrics...... :greengrin

[Haymaker]

Didn't Benny not pay for the lower leagues to have testing or am I misremembering?

[Peevemor]

Didn't Benny not pay for the lower leagues to have testing or am I misremembering?I asked the same thing a couple of days ago.

[The Count]

[QUOTE=Bostonhibby;6307165]Are equally classy scarves available?



That flag is trashy and offence in my opinion.Nobody died for Gods sake a few football clubs got relegated.Some people really need to get a life and maybe a brain.

[EI255]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpegWhat a complete and utter waste of money.

No one cares. No one will ever be bothered hahaha

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[Brummie_Hibs]

Or half-n-half-n-half.
half-n-half-n-half-wits

[CapitalGreen]

Didn't Benny not pay for the lower leagues to have testing or am I misremembering?

He made a charitable donation to the SPFL foundation which clubs could request a grant from. The grants had to be used for purposes which benefited the wider community and could be used to cover testing if the club wished.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_09/7FB1F271-DB1D-4191-989C-9FB0A5504C00.thumb.jpeg.16f06d12ad740eb330d419773b 9598c2.jpeg



hopefully that doesn't make an appearance at the cenotaph on rememberance day, i feel for the sad sack that thought that up.

[tamig]

He made a charitable donation to the SPFL foundation which clubs could request a grant from. The grants had to be used for purposes which benefited the wider community and could be used to cover testing if the club wished.

I’m sure Budge in one of her early reconstruction crusades also claimed that hertz could fund testing for all clubs - but only if they remained in the Premiership. That was a few weeks before the Anderson gift came to fruition. I still think that happened by accident after the old bat let slip in her weekly Sportsound sermon that the donation had no strings attached - much to Neil Doncaster’s surprise.

[tamig]

That article repeats the myth that Hearts were voted down. Not a single club voted to relegate them - they voted to curtail the season, which was the only sensible decision. Hearts were relegated because they were bottom of the Premiership by four clear points and easily the worst team in the league. That's what happens every season.
I had a brief look at the back page of the EEN last night and the pro-hertz brigade among them still can’t seem to acknowledge the word relegated exists. Demoted was the term used in the bit I read. Utterly pathetic myth peddling.

[Iggy Pope]

hopefully that doesn't make an appearance at the cenotaph on rememberance day, i feel for the sad sack that thought that up.

Conversely, I hope it does. We can’t be forgetting.

[Iggy Pope]

[QUOTE=Bostonhibby;6307165]Are equally classy scarves available?



That flag is trashy and offence in my opinion.Nobody died for Gods sake a few football clubs got relegated.Some people really need to get a life and maybe a brain.

They did well getting Stranraer on it though. Kudos. Bonehead boat folks will think it right staunch.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Conversely, I hope it does. We can’t be forgetting.


wonder if PT fans will start using the maroon pound as currency :hmmm:

[Ryan91]

I had a brief look at the back page of the EEN last night and the pro-hertz brigade among them still can’t seem to acknowledge the word relegated exists. Demoted was the term used in the bit I read. Utterly pathetic myth peddling.

They can dress it up all they want, but in the end, you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still going to be a pig.

Let them have their comfort blanket, their 5-1, big team, 1902, etc. everyone else knows the truth.

[Iggy Pope]

They can dress it up all they want, but in the end, you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still going to be a pig.

Let them have their comfort blanket, their 5-1, big team, 1902, etc. everyone else knows the truth.

That picture of that wummin with her Romanov bedsheet out that windae would compliment this post poetically.