The generic Hearts thread

[tamig]

The death rate per million in Scotland is 2.5 times that of the USA. Mass gatherings are out for some time here especially with our population concentrated in the narrow central belt.

Almost half of our deaths in care homes so you can’t just look at the bottom line.

[ano hibby]

Hearts have offered to fund COVID-19 testing for other Scottish clubs should their reconstruction proposal be accepted, with their mystery benefactors committing their support for a further five years.

Now I'm not legal expert but this has to be Bribery or other longer legal words .

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Where did this info come from? Pretty significant if verified surely.
Maybe rather than run for the hills licking their wounds the benefactors see an opportunity to invest at a time of crisis and help set Hearts apart from competition. If so you’d have to think they’ll seek reassurance on how next tranche of their Investment will be spent.

[Keith_M]

The death rate per million in Scotland is 2.5 times that of the USA. Mass gatherings are out for some time here especially with our population concentrated in the narrow central belt.


It's all to do with where each country is in the upward and downward curves of the virus numbers.

Plus, I don't see where you're getting the 2.5 times figure from.

The latest numbers from the Scottish Govt (https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/) is 2,304. For your figure to be correct, it would have to have been around the 4,000 mark.

[hhibs]

It's all to do with where each country is in the upward and downward curves of the virus numbers.

Plus, I don't see where you're getting the 2.5 times figure from.

The latest numbers from the Scottish Govt (https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/) is 2,304. For your figure to be correct, it would have to have been around the 4,000 mark.



Stats are always subject to interpretation ,as you indicate,filipino hibs is either way off in his calulations or comparing apples and oranges due to say timelines,or reporting (in)accuracy.

[HFC93]

The death rate per million in Scotland is 2.5 times that of the USA. Mass gatherings are out for some time here especially with our population concentrated in the narrow central belt.

Source for that 2.5 figure?

[FilipinoHibs]

It's all to do with where each country is in the upward and downward curves of the virus numbers.

Plus, I don't see where you're getting the 2.5 times figure from.

The latest numbers from the Scottish Govt (https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/) is 2,304. For your figure to be correct, it would have to have been around the 4,000 mark.

US population 328.8m and 100,000 dead as at today. 304 dead per million.
Scotland around 4,000 as NRS figures 4 days old. Population 5.45m so death rate 734 per million.

NRS (national records scotland) figures:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161266297169988&id=293226174987

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths/deaths-involving-coronavirus-covid-19-in-scotland

[Ozyhibby]

[QUOTE=The Wireless;6186194]

We already have staggered departure times and there's still queues to get out.

There are always lots of people around to say why something can’t be done. Thankfully the club will not be entertaining this thinking and will be trying to figure out how it can be done. Where there is a will, there is a way.


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[Greenworld]

I really like the Ayr owner


The Championship could see it’s schedule cut in half with just 18 matches being played from January if the proposal is voted down, but Cameron will go along with that on the basis that Ayr are a Championship club.
“I don’t want to be involved in that either,”*he told the Times.. “But I’m a Championship club so I have to abide by that. Hearts are a Championship club. They should abide by that. Just because they are better than the rest of us doesn’t mean that they get special rules. They are bigger than Livingston. They are bigger than St Johnstone. They are bigger than Hamilton. Well, guess what? They finished in last place.”


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[Peevemor]

I really like the Ayr owner


The Championship could see it’s schedule cut in half with just 18 matches being played from January if the proposal is voted down, but Cameron will go along with that on the basis that Ayr are a Championship club.
“I don’t want to be involved in that either,”*he told the Times.. “But I’m a Championship club so I have to abide by that. Hearts are a Championship club. They should abide by that. Just because they are better than the rest of us doesn’t mean that they get special rules. They are bigger than Livingston. They are bigger than St Johnstone. They are bigger than Hamilton. Well, guess what? They finished in last place.”


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Brilliant reading!

[CraigHibee]

I really like the Ayr owner


The Championship could see it’s schedule cut in half with just 18 matches being played from January if the proposal is voted down, but Cameron will go along with that on the basis that Ayr are a Championship club.
“I don’t want to be involved in that either,”*he told the Times.. “But I’m a Championship club so I have to abide by that. Hearts are a Championship club. They should abide by that. Just because they are better than the rest of us doesn’t mean that they get special rules. They are bigger than Livingston. They are bigger than St Johnstone. They are bigger than Hamilton. Well, guess what? They finished in last place.”


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Love it, maybe rubber puss should take note of his comments and accept hearts are a championship club

[weecounty hibby]

I really like the Ayr owner


The Championship could see it’s schedule cut in half with just 18 matches being played from January if the proposal is voted down, but Cameron will go along with that on the basis that Ayr are a Championship club.
“I don’t want to be involved in that either,”*he told the Times.. “But I’m a Championship club so I have to abide by that. Hearts are a Championship club. They should abide by that. Just because they are better than the rest of us doesn’t mean that they get special rules. They are bigger than Livingston. They are bigger than St Johnstone. They are bigger than Hamilton. Well, guess what? They finished in last place.”


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Oh oh. The Maroon pound will not be finding its way to Ayr anytime soon. This guy is 100% spot on every time I hear him speak. Sadly the BBC radiojambo team somehow manage to overlook him

[Baader]

Oh oh. The Maroon pound will not be finding its way to Ayr anytime soon. This guy is 100% spot on every time I hear him speak. Sadly the BBC radiojambo team somehow manage to overlook him

Add them to the long list of clubs and people the Jambos hate. Another 'tinpot' club they'll want bust now. Seems they hate just about everyone these days...

[FilipinoHibs]

Lies, damm lies and government statistics:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52009463

[The 90+2]

I really like the Ayr owner


The Championship could see it’s schedule cut in half with just 18 matches being played from January if the proposal is voted down, but Cameron will go along with that on the basis that Ayr are a Championship club.
“I don’t want to be involved in that either,”*he told the Times.. “But I’m a Championship club so I have to abide by that. Hearts are a Championship club. They should abide by that. Just because they are better than the rest of us doesn’t mean that they get special rules. They are bigger than Livingston. They are bigger than St Johnstone. They are bigger than Hamilton. Well, guess what? They finished in last place.”


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Ayr Utd, officially my second team from now on 😁

[Posh Hibby]

Ayr United chairman Lachlan Cameron is savage! And i'm loving it :agree:

I don’t deal well with threats,” he warned.. “If your threat is ‘do it my way or we will sue you’, well, sue away but this is a members’ organisation.
“Hearts are a big club. They, Rangers, Celtic, Hibs... they can stamp their feet and make things happen. If Airdrie, Ayr United or Alloa are aggrieved, we don’t have the weight of an angry mob behind us.”

[jacomo]

[QUOTE=Blurry Face;6186472]

There are always lots of people around to say why something can’t be done. Thankfully the club will not be entertaining this thinking and will be trying to figure out how it can be done. Where there is a will, there is a way.


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You’ve said this before. You seem to imply a bit of ‘can do’ attitude and all will be well.

I’ve said this before: the social distancing measures put in place for supermarkets etc are a nightmare for large scale crowd events. Acknowledging this isn’t defeatist. Either the rules are relaxed (my hope) or getting crowds back into watch football matches is going to be a f***ing nightmare.

[Greenworld]

So Hearts are you Wealthy or skint this would suggest the later its some game of poker your playing I'm thinking your chips are all spent ..


e email reads: "The complete shutdown of Scottish football and related revenue streams unfortunately means we are not in a position to offer refunds to season ticket holders for outstanding fixtures.

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[Hibeesmad]

HEARTS have knocked back a takeover approach from the son of former Liverpool owner George Gillett, according to reports.

BBC Scotland claim US businessman Foster Gillett wants to buy a controlling stake in the Tynecastle club.

They report that contact was made with the Edinburgh side last week.

More to follow.

[Golden Bear]

HEARTS have knocked back a takeover approach from the son of former Liverpool owner George Gillett, according to reports.

BBC Scotland claim US businessman Foster Gillett wants to buy a controlling stake in the Tynecastle club.

They report that contact was made with the Edinburgh side last week.

More to follow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52836158

[weecounty hibby]

The Jambos will be pissing their pants at that kind of news. Of course they will see right through that as they all know that American businessmen are only in Scottish football to asset strip

[The Spaceman]

Masterful timing Ann. Release the news that the club is subject to predatory bids to further rally the troops and pull the wool further over their eyes over what an awful job you have done so far. Excellent.

[The 90+2]

Masterful timing Ann. Release the news that the club is subject to predatory bids to further rally the troops and pull the wool further over their eyes over what an awful job you have done so far. Excellent.

Made up bid knocked back, release to press =more money from the flumps through pledgers.

[JeMeSouviens]

No partial ST refund on offer from Hearts. Budge says they can't afford it.

Their skintness/overwhelming financial security seems to change by the hour. :rolleyes:

[McSwanky]

No partial ST refund on offer from Hearts. Budge says they can't afford it.

Their skintness/overwhelming financial security seems to change by the hour. :rolleyes:

They really are the Donald Trump/Boris Johnson/Dominic Cummings of Scottish Football. Contradicting themselves within paragraphs.

What an utter embarrassment.

[Mon Dieu4]

No partial ST refund on offer from Hearts. Budge says they can't afford it.

Their skintness/overwhelming financial security seems to change by the hour. :rolleyes:

Not even paying themselves the Maroon Pound

[LancsHibs]

The maroon pound is currently worth about 17pence to the pound sterling😆

[007]

I see a takeover approach ha been knocked back. He's dodged a bullet.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5643333/hearts-knock-back-takeover-approach-son-liverpool-george-gillett/

[Peevemor]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-make-season-ticket-refund-22101021



Hearts have told supporters they simply can't afford to offer partial season ticket refunds.


The Jambos admit the financial hit of reimbursing fans for unfulfilled fixtures would be too great as they face up to the grim reality of relegation to the Championship.


Owner Ann Budge has submitted plans for league reconstruction which she hopes will keep her club in the Premiership next season.


Dropping to the second tier leaves Hearts facing the harmful prospect of a delayed restart, with some Championship clubs feeling they are unable to return to action until stadium gates are again opened to punters.


Some Premiership sides have offered refunds for the remaining 2019/20 matches but Hearts have confirmed they won't be among them - although existing season


In an e-mail sent in response to fan enquiries, the club insist the decision is in line with pre-existing policy and that the "overwhelming" feedback from fans has been sympathetic given the current, extraordinary circumstances.


The email reads: "The complete shutdown of Scottish football and related revenue streams unfortunately means we are not in a position to offer refunds to season ticket holders for outstanding fixtures.


"The financial impact on the club would be significant.

"The overwhelming feedback we have had from supporters is that they understand the challenges we face and that any sort of refund would not be expected.


"This no refund policy is also in line with the club's season ticket terms and conditions.
"We don't underestimate the impact that the pandemic will be having on many and assure you that, if we were in a position to do so, we would offer a refund option."


Fans have continued to back the club on new season ticket sales, which have already passed the 4000 mark as of last week.


Supporters' group the Foundation of Hearts, to whom Budge has committed to transferring ownership of the club, have also said they've enjoyed a surge in pledges - taking in over 1000 since March.


They're goosed!

[jacomo]

No partial ST refund on offer from Hearts. Budge says they can't afford it.

Their skintness/overwhelming financial security seems to change by the hour. :rolleyes:


She really is a piece of work. Don’t like the Jambo world view, but some Hearts supporters will be really suffering financially at this time.

‘Let them bake cakes’, as Queen Budge might say.

[weecounty hibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-make-season-ticket-refund-22101021




They're goosed!
Wait a minute, when Hibs offered a refund but asked where people could afford to that they didn't take it up that meant we were about to go tits up. Now that the tarts have categorically told their moron followers that they can't have one under any circumstances does that mean that they are about to go pop? Or will it just be auld Budgie just showing how successful a businesswoman she is again?

[007]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-make-season-ticket-refund-22101021

They're goosed!

Wish they'd make up their mind. They were in brilliant shape a couple of days ago according to Budge, benefactors/donators etc.

[Wakeyhibee]

Can her credibility get any lower? It looks like it can.

[steviehibsleith]

US population 328.8m and 100,000 dead as at today. 304 dead per million.
Scotland around 4,000 as NRS figures 4 days old. Population 5.45m so death rate 734 per million.

NRS (national records scotland) figures:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161266297169988&id=293226174987

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths/deaths-involving-coronavirus-covid-19-in-scotland

Half of Scotlands deaths are in care homes.
Unless you have money in US I doubt very much you are looked after in older age.

As with this I doubt how accurate US is.

[Hibeesmad]

Hearts not offering any sort of refund is a low blow. This news breaking after a leak of a potential buyer?

Things are not looking good in Gorgie.

[Ozyhibby]

I see a takeover approach ha been knocked back. He's dodged a bullet.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5643333/hearts-knock-back-takeover-approach-son-liverpool-george-gillett/

He would have been one of the richest owners in Scotland. There is def some strange stuff going on with all the Americans wanting to invest in our clubs. Will be interesting to see where it goes.


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[The 90+2]

Hearts not offering any sort of refund is a low blow. This news breaking after a leak of a potential buyer?

Things are not looking good in Gorgie.

It’s taking the piss out the support.

[Ozyhibby]

Hearts not offering any sort of refund is a low blow. This news breaking after a leak of a potential buyer?

Things are not looking good in Gorgie.

That’s disgraceful behaviour. I doubt many took the refund from Hibs but it was appreciated that the club made the gesture to fans. Hibs class as they say.


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[Hibeesmad]

It’s taking the piss out the support.

Budge has been taking them for mugs since day one.

[Aldo]

That’s disgraceful behaviour. I doubt many took the refund from Hibs but it was appreciated that the club made the gesture to fans. Hibs class as they say.


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If i am correct Hibs left it up to each individual ST Holder to decide what they wanted to do, providing them with options.

The recently financially secure Hearts are once again doing what they do best..... shafting folk!


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[James Stephen]

Apparently Budge has already transferred ownership to the fans, they just haven't announced it yet?

Is that true?

[Peevemor]

Apparently Budge has already transferred ownership to the fans, they just haven't announced it yet?

Is that true?

In the same way that Vlad sold them lots of shares - it's just that the certificates have still to be posted.

[Stuart93]

Apparently Budge has already transferred ownership to the fans, they just haven't announced it yet?

Is that true?

Who cares?

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Budge has been taking them for mugs since day one.

They're happy about it though, so **** them.

[cocteautwin]

Apparently Budge has already transferred ownership to the fans, they just haven't announced it yet?

Is that true?

She’s taken the money back for the loan but they’re not getting their shares yet. Is this the same thing?

[James Stephen]

Who cares?

I care.

And its the Generic Hearts thread (that you are reading and posting on, by the way)

[greenginger]

Apparently Budge has already transferred ownership to the fans, they just haven't announced it yet?

Is that true?

FoH have paid Budge everything due except £ 100 k , but she's holding on to control until the right time . She also intends to remain as chair person and CEO after completion of the transfer. ???

[Peevemor]

She’s taken the money back for the loan but they’re not getting their shares yet. Is this the same thing?

She hasn't really taken it back - it's just "resting" in her account.

[Duke of Currie]

He would have been one of the richest owners in Scotland. There is def some strange stuff going on with all the Americans wanting to invest in our clubs. Will be interesting to see where it goes.


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If there is a suitable shared resource between a US and Scottish Club , similar to how Aberdeen have done , Scottish clubs can get access to a larger global scouting network and access to US players. Getting a sell onto an English club would be easier and more profitable from a good club in Scotland than from certain European countries or North America. It also improves if the Scottish club in question is in Europe.

Basically , it seems like you can get a good Scottish club , outside the OF, on the cheap and use it as a shop window for player trading.

[James Stephen]

She’s taken the money back for the loan but they’re not getting their shares yet. Is this the same thing?

Ah possibly, thanks.

Just a hearts fan told me they were going to announce it on pitch with a big ceremony etc, but lockdown has prevented that from happening.

[James Stephen]

FoH have paid Budge everything due except £ 100 k , but she's holding on to control until the right time . She also intends to remain as chair person and CEO after completion of the transfer. ???

Thanks for your reply, makes sense.

[green day]

Ah possibly, thanks.

Just a hearts fan told me they were going to announce it on pitch with a big ceremony etc, but lockdown has prevented that from happening.

Will be amusing if they do that once they are relegated.

Shades of Rods great idea of parading the league cup AFTER that derby at ER when Hearts won :greengrin

[Rumble de Thump]

Ann Budge cannot, in all good consience, offer refunds on games that didn't take place, despite declaring that FoH and a mystery benefactor have pledged to continue to pump millions of pounds into the club over the next five years.

[Jakhog1]

They were supposed to win the champions League, sign players for 10 million, build a super duper stadium, Hickey to AC Milan, now knocking bids backs from American investors, blethering Tom Kite since 1874

[Hibeesmad]

Breaking: Foster Gillett says no formal offer has been made.

[The 90+2]

Budge has been taking them for mugs since day one.

Yep. And still they lap her up. Her talking to them like naughty school children when criticism of Levein telling them he will decide when it’s best to leave was a highlight 😁

[The 90+2]

Breaking: Foster Gillett says no formal offer has been made.

Shocking revelation.

[Hibeesmad]

"To date there has been no response from the club board or Foundation of Hearts. No formal offer has been made, I would welcome the opportunity to engage with The Foundation of Hearts to explore a potential investment. I am looking to acquire a football club with ambitions and I’m looking to invest significantly."

[Billy Whizz]

"To date there has been no response from the club board or Foundation of Hearts. No formal offer has been made, I would welcome the opportunity to engage with The Foundation of Hearts to explore a potential investment. I am looking to acquire a football club with ambitions and I’m looking to invest significantly."

Should get them on the cheap next season

[Kato]

He would have been one of the richest owners in Scotland. There is def some strange stuff going on with all the Americans wanting to invest in our clubs. Will be interesting to see where it goes.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFinances between the US and the UK will "smoother" post a no-deal Brexit.

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[snedzuk]

They really are the Donald Trump/Boris Johnson/Dominic Cummings of Scottish Football. Contradicting themselves within paragraphs.

What an utter embarrassment.

And also the Jeremy Corbyn / Layla Moran / Ian Blackford - delusional

[Bishop Hibee]

Yams howling at the moon over the Ayr Utd Chairman’s comments on my social media feeds. They need to wise up and concentrate on their own shortcomings although this seems as likely as a Cummings apology.

[Ozyhibby]

Should get them on the cheap next season

I doubt they can ever sell to anyone. Their FOH constitution makes it too difficult. Pretty sure they need 90% approval?


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[FilipinoHibs]

Apparently Budge has already transferred ownership to the fans, they just haven't announced it yet?

Is that true?

They announced a few weeks ago the takeover would be delayed to later in the year because of the Covid 19 crisis. Some time prior to that they also announced Budge would stay on as CEO for I think 2 years post the takeover.

[Hibeesforever]

I doubt they can ever sell to anyone. Their FOH constitution makes it too difficult. Pretty sure they need 90% approval?


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Always thought that was the flaw in fan ownership. Commercial owners need a return. Hearts seem to raise finance okay from mystery benefactors though. Bizarre, huge donations but no ownership or control and they still cant give refunds. A very poorly run business!

[CropleyWasGod]

I doubt they can ever sell to anyone. Their FOH constitution makes it too difficult. Pretty sure they need 90% approval?


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That's probably as it should be. Ensures that it is very difficult for an asset-stripper to take control.

[JeMeSouviens]

I doubt they can ever sell to anyone. Their FOH constitution makes it too difficult. Pretty sure they need 90% approval?


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Away, they're the most gullible rabble imaginable. They still about 99% approve of Vlad despite his admirable attempt to kill them off completely.

[04Sauzee]

Special Officer Doofy Special Officer Doofy

Posted 41 minutes ago
Not even worried anymore. I think it’s either:



1) Ann’s plan.



2) A modified version agreed upon by the clubs.



3) Clubs told they are restructuring by the SPFL/SFA.



in all of those scenarios, Hearts are in the ‘can afford to play’ pot.

[greenginger]

They announced a few weeks ago the takeover would be delayed to later in the year because of the Covid 19 crisis. Some time prior to that they also announced Budge would stay on as CEO for I think 2 years post the takeover.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/ann-budge-will-get-final-say-key-hearts-decisions-after-foh-transfer-549357

I know is Barry but ......

[Billy Whizz]

I doubt they can ever sell to anyone. Their FOH constitution makes it too difficult. Pretty sure they need 90% approval?


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I get your point, but if they are in a bad state, might need some cash injection.
Think FOH is 75%, and Budge and the fans have the rest

[Hibeesmad]

Budge now saying the SPFL voting system is not fit for purpose.

[Billy Whizz]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21

[SouthMoroccoStu]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21

That’s a lovely care home she’s in

[Ozyhibby]

I’m beginning to think money is very very tight over there. They are practically begging now. It’s very undignified.


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[greenginger]

That's probably as it should be. Ensures that it is very difficult for an asset-stripper to take control.


All it will take take will be a guy to roll up and say he owns a bank and a submarine , get an honesty check from Lord ****s and they’ll hand over the shares for a promises of Champions league success :greengrin

[hibbyfraelibby]

I doubt they can ever sell to anyone. Their FOH constitution makes it too difficult. Pretty sure they need 90% approval?


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Thought they were having a vote to drop that to 75%?

And they compkain about the SOFL voting system when they have their own 9-1 rule😂

[Vault Boy]

I’m beginning to think money is very very tight over there. They are practically begging now. It’s very undignified.


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Certainly seems that way

[JeMeSouviens]

Budge now saying the SPFL voting system is not fit for purpose.

Winning friends and influencing again, I see. :greengrin

[The 90+2]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21

“Maw, grannies on my laptop pished again” 😂😂😂😂

[hibbyfraelibby]

Budge now saying the SPFL voting system is not fit for purpose.

The SPFL voting system is what it is. Don't like it propose a change at an EGM. Don't like the result then walk away before you are liquidated.


With each passing day there are more contadictions, more financial flip flopping, more desperation in her utterings.

Maybe they are genuinely broke and on the point of going under.

They said in March they couldn't get a commercial loan from this financial institutions, Benny went awol, they were relying on the Semi-final to see them through until they could blow next seasons ST money by September and they have had poor ST sales, two extra month of paying full wage to the wage bandits and now the season is called Clause 12 can no longer be applied.

They are goosed and the team most likely to implode first...and probably would have even without Covid19. They were in deep nostril high doo doo before and the tide is coming in up the proverbial creek where one should never venture without appropriate manual propulsion equipment.

As they love to chorus over on Keekboak

Tick, Toc...

but in maroon

[The Modfather]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21

Does her “glass curtain” look directly onto a hedge?

[Peevemor]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21Two things.

1. She's taken ridicule to a whole new level.
2. That photo is scary.

[CropleyWasGod]

She hasn't read the rules :confused:

She was on the SPFL Board for 2 (?) years, and she doesn't know the Rules that govern her work?

[KDY Hibs]

Does her “glass curtain” look directly onto a hedge?

Zooming from her greenhouse

[Waxy]

Budge now saying the SPFL voting system is not fit for purpose.

I’m almost at the hate hearts level i was at when Mercer attempted to kill us.

[Docc109]

The SPFL voting system is what it is. Don't like it propose a change at an EGM. Don't like the result then walk away before you are liquidated.


With each passing day there are more contadictions, more financial flip flopping, more desperation in her utterings.

Maybe they are genuinely broke and on the point of going under.

They said in March they couldn't get a commercial loan from this financial institutions, Benny went awol, they were relying on the Semi-final to see them through until they could blow next seasons ST money by September and they have had poor ST sales, two extra month of paying full wage to the wage bandits and now the season is called Clause 12 can no longer be applied.

They are goosed and the team most likely to implode first...and probably would have even without Covid19. They were in deep nostril high doo doo before and the tide is coming in up the proverbial creek where one should never venture without appropriate manual propulsion equipment.

As they love to chorus over on Keekboak

Tick, Toc...

but in maroon

Im a very infrequent poster, but read posts on here every day., (im a hibby and was at 0-7 game) I also have a look over on the dark side forum. Can anyone tell me how they think that they can afford to pay Covid19 testing for all the other clubs, mind u, only if they are allowed reconstruction, claiming that they are such a caring sharing club! Baffles me!

[Since452]

Why the **** did Budge say no to Gillette? Great opportunity. The massive drawback of fan ownership imo.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why the **** did Budge say no to Gillette? Great opportunity. The massive drawback of fan ownership imo.

She can't say "yes". There's a binding commitment to hand over the shares to FOH.

[Billy Whizz]

She can't. There's a binding commitment to hand over the shares to FOH.

And then this time next year, all the FOH investors can be millionaires

[CropleyWasGod]

And then this time next year, all the FOH investors can be millionaires

Is Rodney back?:greengrin

[Since452]

She can't say "yes". There's a binding commitment to hand over the shares to FOH.

Yup kind of answered my own question

[CA Hibby]

US population 328.8m and 100,000 dead as at today. 304 dead per million.
Scotland around 4,000 as NRS figures 4 days old. Population 5.45m so death rate 734 per million.

NRS (national records scotland) figures:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161266297169988&id=293226174987

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths/deaths-involving-coronavirus-covid-19-in-scotland


The hard thing with trying to compare the American numbers is the country is so vast. Most of the cases center around heavily populated areas, and if you take the greater New York area out of the equation the numbers drop significantly.

I live here in the Bay Area (SF, SJ, Oak) with a population slightly higher than Scotland, but greater density our numbers of fatalities are way low compared to you guys. We are looking at roughly 11.5k cases with around 400 deaths. And also majority of these have been in Care Homes. This area has been great at the SIP and social distancing in public along with wearing masks when out and about and the fact that we were the very first in going into SIP (March 13Th) i think has helped keep the numbers down.

The problem now is how do we move to the next step with some resemblance of normality as every decision made will be questioned. Are we moving too fast, are we moving too slow and this is what we are seeing getting played out in the public at the moment. Eight weeks is the magic number that all governments talk about in their plans for any pandemic, before we start to see civil disobedience

[Rumble de Thump]

The SPFL voting rules are clearly not fit for purpose because clubs other than Hearts are allowed a say over what happens to their own businesses. Does that make sense to you? Because it certainly doesn't to me. :wink:

[Bostonhibby]

The SPFL voting rules are clearly not fit for purpose because clubs other than Hearts are allowed a say over what happens to their own businesses. Does that make sense to you? Because it certainly doesn't to me. :wink:What we need is more wee tinpot dictators issuing forth sermons from inside their wee greenhouse (in the absence of a mount) that everyone else in the Scottish leagues can blindly follow.

That'll sort the problem that never existed before St Mirren beat Hearts a few months back.

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[007]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21

Can't wait 'til she loses in court. She'll be wanting the law changed.

What will it take for her and her supporters to start realising maybe it's them that's actually got it wrong?

[ac1]

Can't wait 'til she loses in court. She'll be wanting the law changed.

What will it take for her and her supporters to start realising maybe it's them that's actually got it wrong?

Never had a single word to say about it before but now Hearts are affected it's not fit for purpose?

Did she not sit on the board 2 years ago and never said a word about it?

[JimBHibees]

She has clearly lost the plot. No idea why she gets the airtime she does. Even English has given up flogging this dead horse.

[Sweet Left Peg]

She hasn't read the rules :confused:

She was on the SPFL Board for 2 (?) years, and she doesn't know the Rules that govern her work?

That's an incredible admission to make. Along with lines like "My understanding is..." "I could be wrong here..." "That's what I've been told..." "It's heresay..." "I'VE NOT READ THE RULES!!!"

Astonishing that she can shoehorn so much proof that she is clutching at any straw that might be nearby, into two and a half minutes. It even looks like she slyly picks her nose and eats it right at the start. Very odd.

[Hibeesmad]

Her answer on Stendel's future suggests he will be away.

[Wheat Hound]

Why the **** did Budge say no to Gillette? Great opportunity. The massive drawback of fan ownership imo.

Hopefully she's not refused all offers of Gillete assistance........🧙*♂️

[hibeerealist]

Special Officer Doofy Special Officer Doofy

Posted 41 minutes ago
Not even worried anymore. I think it’s either:



1) Ann’s plan.



2) A modified version agreed upon by the clubs.



3) Clubs told they are restructuring by the SPFL/SFA.



in all of those scenarios, Hearts are in the ‘can afford to play’ pot.


He or She is a full on roaster, potential leader of a small Duncan army - plenty to say and clearly not in the real world!!

Has it never occurred to any of them that the restructure the SPFL say may be needed is more than likely from Championship down: NO Premier teams have stated or even indicated that they cannot commence the league behind closed doors???

They think it is 14 team Premier and f - ck everybody else they are seriously deluded oh and I said it in March and I will repeat, they will NOT be taking legal action it is all bluster, threats if you will.

[Billy Whizz]

Her answer on Stendel's future suggests he will be away.

Where does she say that “Danny’s waving goodbye”, or is their a longer version on Sky

[Hibeesmad]

Where does she say that “Danny’s waving goodbye”, or is their a longer version on Sky

"Daniel made it clear to us when he joined us he didnt want to be managing in the Scottish Championship". That's enough for me.

[Hibeesmad]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1266069549289549824?s=19

[660]

Wasn’t there talk of a payment to him if they went down? I may have imagined this.

[007]

That's an incredible admission to make. Along with lines like "My understanding is..." "I could be wrong here..." "That's what I've been told..." "It's heresay..." "I'VE NOT READ THE RULES!!!"

Astonishing that she can shoehorn so much proof that she is clutching at any straw that might be nearby, into two and a half minutes. It even looks like she slyly picks her nose and eats it right at the start. Very odd.

She's idiotic. If someone told me that I'd ask them to either email me a copy of the clause or tell me which clause and I'd look it up myself. She's got a cheek criticising part-time clubs when every hour is amateur hour with her.

[Billy Whizz]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1266069549289549824?s=19

Ta
Must have been a 2 parter, she has so much to talk about

[Hibeesmad]

Wasn’t there talk of a payment to him if they went down? I may have imagined this.

Not sure about that, but this was a quote taken from an article 4 days ago.

The former Barnsley boss said: “At the moment I have no contract in the Championship, where Hearts could play next season, but I will speak with Ann [Budge] in the next few days when the decision is over."

[Sudds_1]

Ta
Must have been a 2 parter, she has so much to talk about

Panoramic windaes looking out on....a big effing hedge! 🤣🤣🤣

[Eaststand]

Why the **** did Budge say no to Gillette? Great opportunity. The massive drawback of fan ownership imo.

The Gillette offer is probably the best old Ann could get ;-)

GGTTH

[HoboHarry]

Panoramic windaes looking out on....a big effing hedge! 🤣🤣🤣
Naw naw, that's the same castle view that you get from Tynie......

[The Count]

Panoramic windaes looking out on....a big effing hedge! 🤣🤣🤣

Does she live in Brechin?

[HoboHarry]

The Gillette offer is probably the best old Ann could get ;-)

GGTTH
Some razor sharp wit on display today on .net......

[Rumble de Thump]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1266069549289549824?s=19

She's so frustrated with the uncertainty she's created :greengrin She doesn't have a clue what she's doing.

[weecounty hibby]

I’m almost at the hate hearts level i was at when Mercer attempted to kill us.

That's where I am at the moment. They are a laughing stock but that's usual, they are now making the rest of Scottish football the same. Just **** off you bunch of self absorbed, egotistical bellends. Every ****ing last one of them.

[brog]

The SPFL voting system is what it is. Don't like it propose a change at an EGM. Don't like the result then walk away before you are liquidated.


With each passing day there are more contadictions, more financial flip flopping, more desperation in her utterings.

Maybe they are genuinely broke and on the point of going under.

They said in March they couldn't get a commercial loan from this financial institutions, Benny went awol, they were relying on the Semi-final to see them through until they could blow next seasons ST money by September and they have had poor ST sales, two extra month of paying full wage to the wage bandits and now the season is called Clause 12 can no longer be applied.

They are goosed and the team most likely to implode first...and probably would have even without Covid19. They were in deep nostril high doo doo before and the tide is coming in up the proverbial creek where one should never venture without appropriate manual propulsion equipment.

As they love to chorus over on Keekboak

Tick, Toc...

but in maroon

I've asked this before but didn't get a satisfactory answer. Why do we think Benny went away? B contributed £3.25m in the year to June 2019. We wont know about 19/20 for a long time yet so where did the info come from? Not picking on you, just the most recent comment.

[Waxy]

Panoramic windaes looking out on....a big effing hedge! 🤣🤣🤣

Didnt know she lived in Brechin.

[RyeSloan]

Budge sounds like she has been on the vino before that interview.

But it’s classic Budge..rambling half sentence incoherent nonsense.

And clearly she is now well aware that her ‘proposal’ has zero chance of passing a vote so now she is busy denigrating the voting system and imploring the board to take over and impose a restructuring....

[Jones28]

So they HAVE to turn down offers from outside investment?

😂 **** me it just gets better and better

[Fuzzywuzzy]

The SPFL voting rules are clearly not fit for purpose because clubs other than Hearts are allowed a say over what happens to their own businesses. Does that make sense to you? Because it certainly doesn't to me. :wink:

I said to a Jambo mate that hearts would have had input and agreed to the league rules as a league member. This received an "aye but...."

Even told him about budge saying the league was too big and that she wanted half that. That was met with "she's allowed to change her mind"

[jacomo]

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1266047895809282048?s=21


She seems a bit confused. Keeping her in the public eye like this is starting to look like cruelty.

[hibbyfraelibby]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1266069549289549824?s=19

No we know where the much vaunted Glass Curtain Wall went and why Tiny looks like a library. Bet you the roof even keeps the rain out.

[calumhibee1]

Apparently relegating then would be a restriction on trade and the compo would be astronomical 😂😂😂

[jacomo]

Apparently relegating then would be a restriction on trade and the compo would be astronomical 😂😂😂


I’m also concerned at the shady lawyers who are fleecing Budge for advice like this. She seems quite vulnerable.

[Aldo]

So she is now saying the voting system in the SPFL is not fit for purpose, why, because she knows what’s coming.

Let’s just get this tedious affair done and dusted and we can move into the next episode.

She really died think that she is the messiah and what she says goes.


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[greenlex]

I do hope Barnsley cone calling for the compensation before Daniel waves them goodbye. That would be embarrassing paying comp for someone who wasn’t there. :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

I’m also concerned at the shady lawyers who are fleecing Budge for advice like this. She seems quite vulnerable.
I genuinely worry for her welfare, she seems to have fallen entirely off her rocker.

[CockneyRebel]

Is Rodney back?:greengrin



No, it's Dave

[Radge70]

The Gillette offer is probably the best old Ann could get ;-)

GGTTH
Love it Eaststand! Sharp as a razor....

[jacomo]

So she is now saying the voting system in the SPFL is not fit for purpose, why, because she knows what’s coming.

Let’s just get this tedious affair done and dusted and we can move into the next episode.

She really died think that she is the messiah and what she says goes.





The voting system is a stitch up - everyone knows that. It is designed to preserve the status quo, ie the dominant position of the Ugly Sisters in scottish football.

But Budge sat on the SPFL board. So when did she propose changing the voting system?

Other club chairmen are seeing right through her. This is pure self-interest and nothing else.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

So she is now saying the voting system in the SPFL is not fit for purpose, why, because she knows what’s coming.

Let’s just get this tedious affair done and dusted and we can move into the next episode.

She really died think that she is the messiah and what she says goes.


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She’s not the messiah, she’s a very naughty girl.

[Aldo]

The voting system is a stitch up - everyone knows that. It is designed to preserve the status quo, ie the dominant position of the Ugly Sisters in scottish football.

But Budge sat on the SPFL board. So when did she propose changing the voting system?

Other club chairmen are seeing right through her. This is pure self-interest and nothing else.

That as well.

The silence from the other clubs (I hope) says it all!

It’s a bit like reconstruction... never mentioned until they were in the keek!

I’m sooooo glad she’s not in charge of our club!


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[Since452]

This whole episode has confirmed what I already knew about what a skeekit club Hearts are and makes me thank my lucky stars my dad was a Hibby

[Thief]

This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.


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[Gloucester Hibs]

Budge is all over the place. Changes her tune on loads of stuff depending on who she’s trying to influence. For instance - are they minted or are they skint?

[matty_f]

This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.


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She can't very well spend weeks bleating about integrity only to then pin her hopes on a democratic vote getting slapped down.

[Hibeesmad]

What next for Ann if/when another catastrophic reconstruction plan fails on Monday?

[Aldo]

She can't very well spend weeks bleating about integrity only to then pin her hopes on a democratic vote getting slapped down.

But you know deep down this will have been explored and if there is a glimmer she will be all over it.


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[bingo70]

Did she mention why she didnt call clubs for feedback before releasing the plan?

I assume it’s because she thinks these other clubs are beneath her.

To me it looks like there is an appetite for reconstruction on some level but her refusal to listen and engage in proper discussions with all parties has cost her club.

[CMurdoch]

Why the **** did Budge say no to Gillette? Great opportunity. The massive drawback of fan ownership imo.

Does this give you a clue
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/edge-glory-brink-administration-liverpools-16900099

[660]

Does this give you a clue
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/edge-glory-brink-administration-liverpools-16900099

Sounds like a perfect fit for them.

[sauzee=legend]

Shouldn’t Anne be in self isolation due to her age? 😂

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1266069549289549824?s=19Don't mean to be to an auld radge wifie, but.

What an auld radge.

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[Waxy]

This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.


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If the SPFL have such a rule it wont be to overrule democratic votes.
The clubs live and die by democracy.
It will most likely be there to sort out emergency situations.
Like organising quick votes to end the season.
You see Ann. The SPFL board have already dealt with this emergency situation.

[McSwanky]

I've been quite angry/incredulous about this whole sorry issue, but I'm now genuinely worrying about Ann's welfare. The statements have been becoming more erratic, and that interview... Well, I don't think she's OK.

Either she is Benny and she's gone in way too deep and is now totally panicking, or she needs some medical help.

All in my opinion of course.

The latest plan will be jettisoned tomorrow or Monday, and I hope she has a good support network around her, as I fear it's not going to be pretty.

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[jacomo]

I've been quite angry/incredulous about this whole sorry issue, but I'm now genuinely worrying about Ann's welfare. The statements have been becoming more erratic, and that interview... Well, I don't think she's OK.

Either she is Benny and she's gone in way too deep and is now totally panicking, or she needs some medical help.

All in my opinion of course.

The latest plan will be jettisoned tomorrow or Monday, and I hope she has a good support network around her, as I fear it's not going to be pretty.

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I think this is very possible.

She might even need to offload the yacht (or whatever share she has in it).

[weecounty hibby]

I think this is very possible.

She might even need to offload the yacht (or whatever share she has in it).

Ive thought that for a while as well. I don't know the financial ins and outs of it but why would anyone just hand over £Ms for no return what do ever, not a seat in the board, not a bunch of shares, not even a mention. If it is her I think she will be realising that she is in a total **** show with no chance of recouping that money when they go tits up. Big ego leading to big spending to stand still leading to big losses leading to big disaster. That is my hope anyway.

[Hibeesforever]

Ive thought that for a while as well. I don't know the financial ins and outs of it but why would anyone just hand over £Ms for no return what do ever, not a seat in the board, not a bunch of shares, not even a mention. If it is her I think she will be realising that she is in a total **** show with no chance of recouping that money when they go tits up. Big ego leading to big spending to stand still leading to big losses leading to big disaster. That is my hope anyway.

I think that must be it, without being told to the contrary Budge is the Benefactor...wow some benevolence for no actual control...totally explains why transfer of ownership has not happened!

[theonlywayisup]

Apologies,not really been paying much attention to the Hertz circus, but am I correct in thinking that Queen B is looking for a way out, hence the interest in buying the club. From the BBC:

Hearts have rejected a takeover bid from the son of former Liverpool owner George Gillett, says chair Ann Budge.

Foster Gillett, who was on the board at Anfield, confirmed to BBC Scotland an email was sent on his behalf last week "regarding potential investment".

But he says no formal offer was made and there has been "no response" from the club or the Foundation of Hearts.

"I would welcome the opportunity to engage with the Foundation of Hearts to explore an investment," Gillett said.

"I am looking to acquire a football club with ambitions and I'm looking to invest significantly."

[theonlywayisup]

And in other news, it looks unlikely that they'll get enough votes from Leagues One and Two. Again from the BBC:

Hearts' league reconstruction proposal is "self-seeking" and a "non-starter", says Cowdenbeath chair Donald Findlay.

The Tynecastle club want a 14-14-14 SPFL set-up for the next two seasons - a move that would spare them relegation from the Scottish Premiership.

But Cowdenbeath are one of five sides in the bottom two tiers who have told BBC Scotland they will vote against it.

Should another join them, Clyde, Forfar Athletic, Peterhead, and Elgin City, the new plan would fail in any ballot.

While he did not declare his club's position, Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy said on Wednesday the proposal was doomed to failure. The move would also deny Cove Rangers promotion from the bottom tier.

[Waxy]

Benny Budge.

[jacomo]

That as well.

The silence from the other clubs (I hope) says it all!

It’s a bit like reconstruction... never mentioned until they were in the keek!

I’m sooooo glad she’s not in charge of our club!


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I get that Jambos feel grateful to her because she bailed them out of their last crisis. But it’s just a continuing pattern with them - get into debt, bail out, ignore alarm bells - repeat.

Who will be their next saviour?

[jeffers]

At the stage now where I can’t stand this woman. Whinge, whinge whinge like a bairn that isn’t getting it’s own way. So now, and rightly so, a number of the lower league clubs can see through her proposals and are saying they won’t vote for them, all of a sudden the voting structure is wrong and they shouldn’t have a voice. Just F off, take your medicine and accept your relegation with some good grace. Oh and make up your mind, you either have loads of money or you don’t. Choose one and stick to it.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Love it Eaststand! Sharp as a razor....

Cut throat business this pun game...

[Since452]

What next for Ann if/when another catastrophic reconstruction plan fails on Monday?

She'll probably appoint Craig Levein to sporting director to oversee the football operations side of things while she focuses on finishing the stand in time for the visit of Alloa.

Wouldn't surprise me at all

[Hibeesmad]

She'll probably appoint Craig Levein to sporting director to oversee the football operations side of things while she focuses on finishing the stand in time for the visit of Alloa.

Wouldn't surprise me at all

Wouldn't put it past her at this stage.

[KDY Hibs]

No, it's Dave

Lol

[007]

I think that must be it, without being told to the contrary Budge is the Benefactor...wow some benevolence for no actual control...totally explains why transfer of ownership has not happened!

If it was her I don't think she'd keep it quiet. My money's on it being the guys that created Grand Theft Auto.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jones_(video_game_developer)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Dailly_(game_designer)

GTA is one of the all time highest grossing game franchises with $10 billion dollars of sales so they can probably afford to put a few million into Hearts without even blinking.

Remember the news story a couple of years ago saying the only condition of the benefactors was to relax the dress code in the directors box.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/ann-budge-hearts-benefactors-have-no-say-spend-have-one-condition-184569

Casual dress code fits the profile of a game developer. As you can see, every day is dress down day.

https://www.google.com/search?q=David+Jones+(video+game+developer)&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=isnv&sxsrf=ALeKk004o5YEeNJhvs47UpfIy7pRPlMUjw:159070253 9041&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjonKHexNfpAhUPiFwKHYfOBJUQ_AUoAXoECBcQA Q&biw=412&bih=725&dpr=2.63

https://www.google.com/search?q=mike+dailly+(video+game+developer)&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj338TvxNfpAhVbgM4BHfHUBPQQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=mike+dailly+(video+game+developer)&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoGCAAQBxAeOgg IABAHEAUQHjoICAAQCBAHEB46BAgeEApQh5ETWNu2E2CowBNoA HAAeACAAXmIAeoPkgEEMTkuM5gBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=7zHQXresENuAur4P8amToA8&bih=725&biw=412&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=isnv

[FilipinoHibs]

If it was her I don't think she'd keep it quiet. My money's on it being the guys that created Grand Theft Auto.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jones_(video_game_developer)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Dailly_(game_designer)

GTA is one of the all time highest grossing game franchises with $10 billion dollars of sales so they can probably afford to put a few million into Hearts without even blinking.

Remember the news story a couple of years ago saying the only condition of the benefactors was to relax the dress code in the directors box.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/ann-budge-hearts-benefactors-have-no-say-spend-have-one-condition-184569

Casual dress code fits the profile of a game developer. As you can see, every day is dress down day.

https://www.google.com/search?q=David+Jones+(video+game+developer)&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=isnv&sxsrf=ALeKk004o5YEeNJhvs47UpfIy7pRPlMUjw:159070253 9041&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjonKHexNfpAhUPiFwKHYfOBJUQ_AUoAXoECBcQA Q&biw=412&bih=725&dpr=2.63

https://www.google.com/search?q=mike+dailly+(video+game+developer)&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj338TvxNfpAhVbgM4BHfHUBPQQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=mike+dailly+(video+game+developer)&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoGCAAQBxAeOgg IABAHEAUQHjoICAAQCBAHEB46BAgeEApQh5ETWNu2E2CowBNoA HAAeACAAXmIAeoPkgEEMTkuM5gBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=7zHQXresENuAur4P8amToA8&bih=725&biw=412&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=isnv

The original owners were from Dundee and had subliminal images of Hibs and Leith as the good guys. Hearts as the bad guys. Think they have long sold up.

Yes the owners sold up in 1997 and left the company in 1999. They are US owned now. So highly unlikely them. This myth has been previously dismissed along with countless other red herrings.

CapirtalGreen who knows Stuart Wallace was told by Stuart at the start of this crisis that the benefactor would not be making further contributions because of the turmoil in financial markets and Hearts were well down the list if causes they help. This makes me think Budge's five year backing by the benefactor us bluster. Surely they would have stepped over salaries and keeping the club afloat and Budge would not be saying Hearts are in financial trouble. She has lied her way through this crisis. I think a big part of it is getting out of Hearts with the minimum of losses to her.

[007]

The original owners were from Dundee and had subliminal images of Hibs and Leith as the good guys. Hearts as the bad guys. Think they have long sold up.

Yes the owners sold up in 1997 and left the company in 1999. They are US owned now. So highly unlikely them. This myth has been previously dismissed along with countless other red herrings.

Fair enough. Definitely don't think it is Budge though.

[SMAXXA]

Why wouldn’t they need to declare where the money came from in their financials form a money laundering or financial crime perspective?

[The Harp Awakes]

Given Anne's latest fudge seems doomed to failure, a big call is coming her way on whether to launch legal action. I suspect after the usual bluster she won't. It would cause massive aggro and create lasting hostility towards Hearts from the majority of clubs.

If she does, her chances of success must be slim given she would be trying to overturn the vote of a members organisation.

Even on the slim chance she succeeded, the best she would get is either a re-run of the SPFL vote (which would likely result in a bigger majority for, as clubs will be well p1ssed off with Hearts), or compo.

[AltheHibby]

Why wouldn’t they need to declare where the money came from in their financials form a money laundering or financial crime perspective?

Their auditors will have checked the transactions and would be duty bound to report them if there was the slightest whiff of money laundering. As long as the auditors are happy Benny can remain anonymous.

[007]

Given Anne's latest fudge seems doomed to failure, a big call is coming her way on whether to launch legal action. I suspect after the usual bluster she won't. It would cause massive aggro and create lasting hostility towards Hearts from the majority of clubs.

If she does, her chances of success must be slim given she would be trying to overturn the vote of a members organisation.

Even on the slim chance she succeeded, the best she would get is either a re-run of the SPFL vote (which would likely result in a bigger majority for, as clubs will be well p1ssed off with Hearts), or compo.

It is all just wind and pish. I don't think she wants to go ahead but the fans do so she'll shortly be under immense pressure from them to proceed. She knows they've got a weak case and probably the advice to her is not to go ahead which is why we are seeing repeated threats of court action as the threat of it is the only thing they've got left.

Once the reconstruction proposal is knocked on the head I expect a statement saying, for the good of the game Hearts have decided not to go to court.

[cocteautwin]

Today is Levein's last day at work. So long and thanks for the relegation Craig. I shall be raising my glass to you tonight in appreciation of all your good work (for the benefit of Hibs). Enjoy your seat in the stand next season watching as the Championship unfolds.

[Iain G]

Their auditors will have checked the transactions and would be duty bound to report them if there was the slightest whiff of money laundering. As long as the auditors are happy Benny can remain anonymous.

Is that Dr Mrs Ann Onymous do you think?

[FilipinoHibs]

Fair enough. Definitely don't think it is Budge though.

No idea who it is, although did think it was her. Main thing is her plan is thrown out the window. Now I think there real situation will be laid bare as the championship unlikely to start before the start of 2021. Going to enjoy their pain.

[FilipinoHibs]

Their auditors will have checked the transactions and would be duty bound to report them if there was the slightest whiff of money laundering. As long as the auditors are happy Benny can remain anonymous.

A special purpose vehicle or a family member could have been used. That would mean the contributions would not be reported as from a director. Sneaky but legal.

[mjhibby]

At the stage now where I can’t stand this woman. Whinge, whinge whinge like a bairn that isn’t getting it’s own way. So now, and rightly so, a number of the lower league clubs can see through her proposals and are saying they won’t vote for them, all of a sudden the voting structure is wrong and they shouldn’t have a voice. Just F off, take your medicine and accept your relegation with some good grace. Oh and make up your mind, you either have loads of money or you don’t. Choose one and stick to it.

Exactly. She’s also turned decent hertz fans into blithering idiots forced to trot out the party line they know is utter Horlivka. She has adopted trumpian ways which is a terrible look in Edinburgh. The unbelievable garbage I’ve heard from hertz fans has actually taken by breath away at times and the few sevco fans I know have accepted that the leagues had no their choice. Budge will make their club pariahs if she doesn’t desist from her pathetic, childish behaviour. To say the structure is wrong when she has spent months trying to wriggle out of relegation when the vote isn’t going as she wants is unbelievably embarrassing for Edinburgh.
I don’t wish them go bust but now have them as the same level of dislike as sevco. Tom English has lost any sense of balance during this debate and will struggle to get his credibility back and as for banderson and the evening news. Utterly cringeworthy. It’s been a very sad reflection of a lot of folk in Edinburgh which is what’s disappoints most.

[calumhibee1]

Today is Levein's last day at work. So long and thanks for the relegation Craig. I shall be raising my glass to you tonight in appreciation of all your good work (for the benefit of Hibs). Enjoy your seat in the stand next season watching as the Championship unfolds.

It’s all a good laugh isn’t it?

[Greenworld]

So Legal action it is she has two QC on board no less.
Restriction of trading being one of the claims.

Enter the legal guys

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[mjhibby]

[QUOTE=Thief;6186975]This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.

The board can’t overturn a vote of the clubs. She is just deluded. As Doncaster has said,many many times,the board acts on the clubs behalf and only the clubs can change anything. She’s like the queen mum at royal ascot after a sherry too many.🤣🤣

[mjhibby]

No idea who it is, although did think it was her. Main thing is her plan is thrown out the window. Now I think there real situation will be laid bare as the championship unlikely to start before the start of 2021. Going to enjoy their pain.

Me thinks Benny factor was hoping he could retire from saving them and is now upset he’s having to raid his piggy bank again.. Budges behaviour suggests Benny doesn’t want to help anymore and she’s facing reality for the first time.

[calumhibee1]

So Legal action it is she has two QC on board no less.
Restriction of trading being one of the claims.

Enter the legal guys

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This really is the pick of the bunch.

Restriction of trade - the straws are gone and she’s clutching at thin air now.

[mjhibby]

They are ripe for a dodgy takeover. I bet there are loads of unscrupulous businessmen hovering over Gorgie right now looking for a quick asset strip. The jambos are being sidetracked by budges bletherings and could end up in an even worse state. They never learn.

[truehibernian]

So Legal action it is she has two QC on board no less.
Restriction of trading being one of the claims.

Enter the legal guys

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She’s had one too many QCs 😂 not a chance of success but I’ll love watching their efforts.

[we are hibs]

Quite a few of them seem to think lower leagues = league 1 and league 2. Lower league actually = any league below the top one. The one they arent and wont be part of for some time.

[Not In The Know]

"Ahh but we are only looking at League Reconstruction for the benefit of Scottish football. But... if you dont keep us up we'll sue and stop youse all playing!"

I wish they would now just F off and shut up.

[Greenworld]

She’s had one too many QCs [emoji23] not a chance of success but I’ll love watching their efforts.No the first QC did not agree withe second QC .
Then they decided to team up , easy money twice the cost and Annie is left where she started in the championship.

I wonder could clubs vote the Hearts out of the SPFL set up completely [emoji16][emoji16]

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[hibbyfraelibby]

Is that Dr Mrs Ann Onymous do you think?

Very good...wonder if her adviser on her reconstruction proposals is Gerry Mander?

[Waxy]

Can they be docked points for threatening behaviour?
It’s what they’ve done.

[lucky]

Only thing she has got right is the SPLF voting system is not fit for purpose. But as she not proposing to change it it’s just more waffle from her

[Jones28]

So now they’re attempting to bring the game into disrepute. At what point do the league decide they’ve had their fun and it’s time for them to **** off for good?

[Aldo]

You couldn’t make this up. She should really take the appropriate advice prior to rambling on after one too many Gins.

The sooner this proposal is booted into touch the better.


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[CentreLine]

Only thing she has got right is the SPLF voting system is not fit for purpose. But as she not proposing to change it it’s just more waffle from her

When she says it’s not fit for purpose she is specifically referring to her purpose. She wants to railroad her changes through and the voting system makes that difficult. She’s not been remotely interested that the voting system was heavily weighted to the premier league teams, specifically two teams, in the past.

[Kojock]

When she says it’s not fit for purpose she is specifically referring to her purpose. She wants to railroad her changes through and the voting system makes that difficult. She’s not been remotely interested that the voting system was heavily weighted to the premier league teams, specifically two teams, in the past.

She had the opportunity to challenge it when she was on the board but didn’t.

[tamig]

Where does this restriction of trading nonsense come from? Its only been rumoured that Championship games won’t be able to start behind closed doors. Nothing confirmed as far as I’m aware. I’m assuming that’s what the restriction of trade is about.

[calumhibee1]

Where does this restriction of trading nonsense come from? Its only been rumoured that Championship games won’t be able to start behind closed doors. Nothing confirmed as far as I’m aware. I’m assuming that’s what the restriction of trade is about.

It’s her latest nonsensical idea after her first three or four reasons for Hearts not being relegated have been laughed out of town.

The next one will probably be “we qualified for the Scottish Cup semi final and may still have to play it. In the interest of fairness we should be kept in the Premiership as we were in that league when we qualified for it AND IT’S JUST NO FAIR!!!”

[tamig]

So now they’re attempting to bring the game into disrepute. At what point do the league decide they’ve had their fun and it’s time for them to **** off for good?

They’ve been doing that for weeks now. No attempting about it.

[weecounty hibby]

She had the opportunity to challenge it when she was on the board but didn’t.

Yip, you can hear how that will go in court. "So Mrs Budge when you were in the SPFL board you will obviously have out forward motions at board meetings to change the voting structure and the minutes of these meetings will be available for the court to view" she is a fanny and what she means is that it's not fit for purpose as it doesn't fit into her own purpose. She will be laughed out of court if she even dares to go there

[calumhibee1]

I also see Hearts fans are frothing at the mouth that the Ayr chairman has said they finished in last place.!

“How stupid is he, doesn’t he realise the season wasn’t finished?!!!!”

Meanwhile, their own club voted for the season to... yup, you guessed it. Finish.

[greenginger]

Why wouldn’t they need to declare where the money came from in their financials form a money laundering or financial crime perspective?

I’ve noticed something a bit unusual with the FoH accounts submitted to companies house.

Tenon were their original accountants and when they went pop in 2013 Scot Moncrieff were appointed and produced their accounts until 2017.

Then the 2018 accounts have Scott Moncrieff’s name on the front cover and they are listed as the FoH accountants , but there is no report or signature from them. Also the spaces for the FoH directors signatures are blank. In other words they have submitted unsigned accounts.

The most recent accounts for 2019 have been signed by their directors but there is not reference to any independent accountants, so I presume they are doing their accounts themselves.

Nothing wrong with that, but when you consider the £ 100,000 s in d.ds and cow stuffing funds etc you would expect some kind of independent check.

[CropleyWasGod]

I’ve noticed something a bit unusual with the FoH accounts submitted to companies house.

Tenon were their original accountants and when they went pop in 2013 Scot Moncrieff were appointed and produced their accounts until 2017.

Then the 2018 accounts have Scott Moncrieff’s name on the front cover and they are listed as the FoH accountants , but there is no report or signature from them. Also the spaces for the FoH directors signatures are blank. In other words they have submitted unsigned accounts.

The most recent accounts for 2019 have been signed by their directors but there is not reference to any independent accountants, so I presume they are doing their accounts themselves.

Nothing wrong with that, but when you consider the £ 100,000 s in d.ds and cow stuffing funds etc you would expect some kind of independent check.

Independent reviews are discretionary, at that level of income. The extent to which the accounts have been "checked" will be agreed between FOH and SM.

On the lack of signatures issue, I suspect this is a presentation issue. Very few accounts of small companies these days have "actual" signatures on them, as most are electronically submitted. CH only seem to be insistent on there being a name and a date.

[brog]

Independent reviews are discretionary, at that level of income. The extent to which the accounts have been "checked" will be agreed between FOH and SM.

On the lack of signatures issue, I suspect this is a presentation issue. Very few accounts of small companies these days have "actual" signatures on them, as most are electronically submitted. CH only seem to be insistent on there being a name and a date.

Spoilsport! Can you not retire again? :greengrin

[hibbyfraelibby]

I’ve noticed something a bit unusual with the FoH accounts submitted to companies house.

Tenon were their original accountants and when they went pop in 2013 Scot Moncrieff were appointed and produced their accounts until 2017.

Then the 2018 accounts have Scott Moncrieff’s name on the front cover and they are listed as the FoH accountants , but there is no report or signature from them. Also the spaces for the FoH directors signatures are blank. In other words they have submitted unsigned accounts.

The most recent accounts for 2019 have been signed by their directors but there is not reference to any independent accountants, so I presume they are doing their accounts themselves.

Nothing wrong with that, but when you consider the £ 100,000 s in d.ds and cow stuffing funds etc you would expect some kind of independent check.

I think you'll find Companies House moved to on-line filing in their Beta site a few years back and companies can now complete and submit their returns on line with all documents essentially digitally signed.

[greenginger]

Independent reviews are discretionary, at that level of income. The extent to which the accounts have been "checked" will be agreed between FOH and SM.

On the lack of signatures issue, I suspect this is a presentation issue. Very few accounts of small companies these days have "actual" signatures on them, as most are electronically submitted. CH only seem to be insistent on there being a name and a date.



Thanks for that Crops.

Are you saying Scot Moncrieff could still be checking their accounts even without any mention of their name ?

[Partyraiser]

So Legal action it is she has two QC on board no less.
Restriction of trading being one of the claims.

Enter the legal guys

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Have they no limited their own ability to trade by finishing bottom of the league?! They're behaving like they've been relegated after finishing 10th, fuds!

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I've just seen a headline saying budge will have hearts to the fans not sell it to fillet. Am I being thick but it's not hers to sell? Has it not already gone to foh and she's just the custodian on their say so?

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks for that Crops.

Are you saying Scot Moncrieff could still be checking their accounts even without any mention of their name ?

They will probably be preparing them as well.

There's no need to put one's name on accounts these days, either..... and some accountants might prefer to keep their name out of things.:greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

I've just seen a headline saying budge will have hearts to the fans not sell it to fillet. Am I being thick but it's not hers to sell? Has it not already gone to foh and she's just the custodian on their say so?

She still owns the shares, but there is a binding agreement to transfer them to FOH..

[007]

[QUOTE=Thief;6186975]This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.

The board can’t overturn a vote of the clubs. She is just deluded. As Doncaster has said,many many times,the board acts on the clubs behalf and only the clubs can change anything. She’s like the queen mum at royal ascot after a sherry too many.🤣🤣

It is another feeble tactic, in amongst many other feeble tactics. She is trying to plant a seed in clubs' minds "If the proposal doesn't get the required votes, the SPFL will push it through anyway so we might as well vote in favour of it."
Like every other tactic it will backfire as the CEOs/chairpersons etc will see through it and it will cost more votes than it will gain.

If there really was such a clause then she'd have been definite about it rather than the vague guff she spouted. Tom English and the other 'journalists' would have looked up the rules after hearing her interview and there would be umpteen articles today with it. In fact, as bad as journos are these days, I'm sure one of them would have found it before now and printed it.

[Onion]

Given Anne's latest fudge seems doomed to failure, a big call is coming her way on whether to launch legal action. I suspect after the usual bluster she won't. It would cause massive aggro and create lasting hostility towards Hearts from the majority of clubs.

If she does, her chances of success must be slim given she would be trying to overturn the vote of a members organisation.

Even on the slim chance she succeeded, the best she would get is either a re-run of the SPFL vote (which would likely result in a bigger majority for, as clubs will be well p1ssed off with Hearts), or compo.

Don't think being a member of a football association is a legal or god-given right - even if you do meet the requirements for membership or currently a member. You don't want it to come to this, but I'd have thought the SPFL Board have the right to terminate membership of any club from the SPFL for gross misconduct or continually bringing the game into disrepute. Taking legal action against all the other members for following the rules through a democratic process may be enough for the SPFL to cancel Hearts membership and kick them out of Scottish football all together.

Hearts give the impression that all the legal power lies in their hands and the the SPFL can only defend. Bet it's not.

[Jones28]

Don't think being a member of a football association is a legal or god-given right - even if you do meet the requirements for membership or currently a member. You don't want it to come to this, but I'd have thought the SPFL Board have the right to terminate membership of any club from the SPFL for gross misconduct or continually bringing the game into disrepute. Taking legal action against all the other members for following the rules through a democratic process may be enough for the SPFL to cancel Hearts membership and kick them out of Scottish football all together.

Hearts give the impression that all the legal power lies in their hands and the the SPFL can only defend. Bet it's not.

I’m sure I read early on in this debacle that bringing a legal claim against the organisation meant suspension of membership with possible expulsion.

[jacomo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52843453

“Budge steps up legal threat”

Back page headline of The Scotsman.

There seems no strategy at all - she’s just throwing s*** at the wall and hoping something sticks. It’s laughable.

Memo to Budge: a number of Scottish clubs are facing real financial problems. Threatening them with more financial difficulty is not a good strategy.

[Kato]

cancel Hearts membership and kick them out of Scottish football all together.



It would be a real shame if it came to that but if it did I for one would support the SPFL 110%. :fingerscrossedsmiley:


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[007]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52843453

“Budge steps up legal threat”

Back page headline of The Scotsman.

There seems no strategy at all - she’s just throwing s*** at the wall and hoping something sticks. It’s laughable.

Memo to Budge: a number of Scottish clubs are facing real financial problems. Threatening them with more financial difficulty is not a good strategy.

Just what I thought, she'll keep ramping up the threats because the threats are the last throw of the dice.

[Dalianwanda]

Due to St Patrick banishing them all hundreds of years ago from this island i never get the chance to bump into one unless home. Please someone tell me that kickback isn’t representative of the common hearts fan? vindictive,petty,hate filled, suspicious spiteful bunch there. Tell me there has to be some slightly more balanced ones kicking about?

[hibbyfraelibby]

Due to St Patrick banishing them all hundreds of years ago i never get the chance to bump into one unless home. Please someone tell me that kickback isn’t representative of the common hearts fan? vindictive,petty,hate filled, suspicious spiteful bunch there. Tell me there has to be some slightly more balanced ones kicking about?


They are the balanced ones...the rest don't even have opposable thumbs.

[JimBHibees]

Spfl need to set a date take a vote and put Hearts out their misery.

It is the way it is going but needs a conclusion especially when league is now starting on August 1st.

Get the impression SPFL has played a blinder and gives Hearts enough rope to hing themselves with.

[Ronniekirk]

You couldn’t make this up. She should really take the appropriate advice prior to rambling on after one too many Gins.

The sooner this proposal is booted into touch the better.


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But it hasn’t mate and that’s what is giving her all this attention


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[Onion]

Budge thing has dragged longer than Covid isolation but will start to resolve once fixture list for 20/21 is released. Hearts will be paired with a heap of other sub-standard teams, relegated on merit (as UEFA state) and as welcomed in the Championship as fresh fish in Shawshanks.

I honestly think Budge has lost her mind and will be talking about legal action, reconstruction, doing the right thing blah blah blah in October when the Premier League has already played a bunch pf games and everyone else has moved on.

The background noise of Budge will be as relevant as a Sevco Statement.

[Sioux]

In one fell swoop, here is the delusion that affects out neighbours:

"I think it's more that we realise that Ann is a person with empathy, who actually cares how her actions affect other folk. I for one was concerned that she might bow out of legal action because she was worried about the knock-on effects of such action on Scottish football. However, I can imagine that she was absolutely spitting tacks at the "I'm Alright Jack" decision made by the SPFL clubs, an unjust decision which effectively threw us to the dogs and created a threat to our existence, and so I think, despite that empathy, she decided that the gloves were off. There's only so much you can push someone around.

Even then, she's still offering testing facilities etc. to smaller clubs. That's the way she is. She has made mistakes but she's a good person, and that's one of the things that makes me so angry at the folk in the media and from other clubs who are continuing to have unwarranted pops at her. "Oh, she's just doing it for Hearts!". Nope. That may be the way that her detractors approach their lives, but it's not the way Ann does."

There is no help available for these idiots.

[brog]

In one fell swoop, here is the delusion that affects out neighbours:

"I think it's more that we realise that Ann is a person with empathy, who actually cares how her actions affect other folk. I for one was concerned that she might bow out of legal action because she was worried about the knock-on effects of such action on Scottish football. However, I can imagine that she was absolutely spitting tacks at the "I'm Alright Jack" decision made by the SPFL clubs, an unjust decision which effectively threw us to the dogs and created a threat to our existence, and so I think, despite that empathy, she decided that the gloves were off. There's only so much you can push someone around.

Even then, she's still offering testing facilities etc. to smaller clubs. That's the way she is. She has made mistakes but she's a good person, and that's one of the things that makes me so angry at the folk in the media and from other clubs who are continuing to have unwarranted pops at her. "Oh, she's just doing it for Hearts!". Nope. That may be the way that her detractors approach their lives, but it's not the way Ann does."

There is no help available for these idiots.

That reads like a Kiwi Doug missive. Maybe they have a template to copy!

[Joe6-2]

Spoilsport! Can you not retire again? :greengrin

Ha ha
Don’t say that tho, love that he’s back!

[Rumble de Thump]

Was there ever a time when Hearts fans weren't deluded?

[Eyrie]

In one fell swoop, here is the delusion that affects out neighbours:

"I think it's more that we realise that Ann is a person with empathy, who actually cares how her actions affect other folk. I for one was concerned that she might bow out of legal action because she was worried about the knock-on effects of such action on Scottish football. However, I can imagine that she was absolutely spitting tacks at the "I'm Alright Jack" decision made by the SPFL clubs, an unjust decision which effectively threw us to the dogs and created a threat to our existence, and so I think, despite that empathy, she decided that the gloves were off. There's only so much you can push someone around.

Even then, she's still offering testing facilities etc. to smaller clubs. That's the way she is. She has made mistakes but she's a good person, and that's one of the things that makes me so angry at the folk in the media and from other clubs who are continuing to have unwarranted pops at her. "Oh, she's just doing it for Hearts!". Nope. That may be the way that her detractors approach their lives, but it's not the way Ann does."

There is no help available for these idiots.

I've posted less obvious crap than that on Kickback.

[FilipinoHibs]

Was there ever a time when Hearts fans weren't deluded?

1970s - they were embarrassed about their team and quiet.

[JohnMcM]

They are the balanced ones...the rest don't even have opposable thumbs.

:faf:

[Iggy Pope]

1970s - they were embarrassed about their team and quiet.

You’re joking. Derbies in the mid to late 70s were riots.

[660]

I've posted less obvious crap than that on Kickback.

If that poster is undercover, that post is genuinely a work of genius.

[jacomo]

In one fell swoop, here is the delusion that affects out neighbours:

"I think it's more that we realise that Ann is a person with empathy, who actually cares how her actions affect other folk. I for one was concerned that she might bow out of legal action because she was worried about the knock-on effects of such action on Scottish football. However, I can imagine that she was absolutely spitting tacks at the "I'm Alright Jack" decision made by the SPFL clubs, an unjust decision which effectively threw us to the dogs and created a threat to our existence, and so I think, despite that empathy, she decided that the gloves were off. There's only so much you can push someone around.

Even then, she's still offering testing facilities etc. to smaller clubs. That's the way she is. She has made mistakes but she's a good person, and that's one of the things that makes me so angry at the folk in the media and from other clubs who are continuing to have unwarranted pops at her. "Oh, she's just doing it for Hearts!". Nope. That may be the way that her detractors approach their lives, but it's not the way Ann does."

There is no help available for these idiots.


Sounds like another Budge sock puppet account to me.

If she’s not telling the world what a delightful person she is, she seems to be doing that via proxy.

[Irish_Steve]

You just need to type " Ann is playing the long-game here" and then sit back and watch as they fight amongst themselves - it`s hilarious

[Hibeesforever]

You just need to type " Ann is playing the long-game here" and then sit back and watch as they fight amongst themselves - it`s hilarious

BUdgie seems to be mouthing off to various parties, bring on Monday, hopefully that puts her back in her box!

[Heisenberg]

The Premiership meeting on Monday will be a close one. It sounds like a lot of clubs are supportive of her plans, she’s still got to convince the likes of Hibs, Ross County, St Mirren, St Johnstone and Dundee United I’d guess. Then she has the problem of getting support in the lower leagues.

[Kojock]

The Premiership meeting on Monday will be a close one. It sounds like a lot of clubs are supportive of her plans, she’s still got to convince the likes of Hibs, Ross County, St Mirren, St Johnstone and Dundee United I’d guess. Then she has the problem of getting support in the lower leagues.

Saughton Jambo Saughton Jambo
Posted 48 minutes ago
Monday is D-Day I believe. I wouldn’t bet my mortgage on it Jus now but it’s definitely stacked in our favour. There’s been a few developments today and ND knows that Ann will go all out if reconstruction fails. I’d like to think we are dining at the top table this season and not on the outside looking in. Lots to happen this weekend

[Mon Dieu4]

The BBC's Kheridine has just tweeted this

"Monday could be the end of the road for the @JamTarts @spfl reconstruction proposals. Ahead of the Premiership meeting to discuss temporary 14-14-14, 3 top flight clubs tell me they don’t support the plans. An 11-1 Prem majority is required, which means we may not even get a vote"

[Mikey]

Saughton Jambo Saughton Jambo
Posted 48 minutes ago
Monday is D-Day I believe. I wouldn’t bet my mortgage on it Jus now but it’s definitely stacked in our favour. There’s been a few developments today and ND knows that Ann will go all out if reconstruction fails. I’d like to think we are dining at the top table this season and not on the outside looking in. Lots to happen this weekend


The BBC's Kheridine has just teeeted this

"Monday could be the end of the road for the @JamTarts @spfl reconstruction proposals. Ahead of the Premiership meeting to discuss temporary 14-14-14, 3 top flight clubs tell me they don’t support the plans. An 11-1 Prem majority is required, which means we may not even get a vote"

I know which one is more believable!

[Hibeesforever]

The BBC's Kheridine has just teeeted this

"Monday could be the end of the road for the @JamTarts @spfl reconstruction proposals. Ahead of the Premiership meeting to discuss temporary 14-14-14, 3 top flight clubs tell me they don’t support the plans. An 11-1 Prem majority is required, which means we may not even get a vote"

That's the best news I have heard today. Bring on Monday

[Heisenberg]

The BBC's Kheridine has just teeeted this

"Monday could be the end of the road for the @JamTarts @spfl reconstruction proposals. Ahead of the Premiership meeting to discuss temporary 14-14-14, 3 top flight clubs tell me they don’t support the plans. An 11-1 Prem majority is required, which means we may not even get a vote"

Well that’s quite funny.

[007]

Saughton Jambo Saughton Jambo
Posted 48 minutes ago
Monday is D-Day I believe. I wouldn’t bet my mortgage on it Jus now but it’s definitely stacked in our favour. There’s been a few developments today and ND knows that Ann will go all out if reconstruction fails. I’d like to think we are dining at the top table this season and not on the outside looking in. Lots to happen this weekend

Let's hope so. All these threats are getting tedious, wish she'd just get on with it. Hopefully we'll move to the next stage of court proceedings (or climb down) by Tuesday.

[JeMeSouviens]

The BBC's Kheridine has just tweeted this

"Monday could be the end of the road for the @JamTarts @spfl reconstruction proposals. Ahead of the Premiership meeting to discuss temporary 14-14-14, 3 top flight clubs tell me they don’t support the plans. An 11-1 Prem majority is required, which means we may not even get a vote"

Excellent! On to the court case :-)

[we are hibs]

That should be reconstruction (in the top league) dead now. Time to move on

[jacomo]

Saughton Jambo Saughton Jambo
Posted 48 minutes ago
Monday is D-Day I believe. I wouldn’t bet my mortgage on it Jus now but it’s definitely stacked in our favour. There’s been a few developments today and ND knows that Ann will go all out if reconstruction fails. I’d like to think we are dining at the top table this season and not on the outside looking in. Lots to happen this weekend


Jambos: we are laughing at you, but please don’t bet your mortgage on this going your way.

[hibee-boys]

The BBC's Kheridine has just tweeted this

"Monday could be the end of the road for the @JamTarts @spfl reconstruction proposals. Ahead of the Premiership meeting to discuss temporary 14-14-14, 3 top flight clubs tell me they don’t support the plans. An 11-1 Prem majority is required, which means we may not even get a vote"

Can someone explain why she's getting the time of day again anyway, I thought reconstruction had been binned. Surely she can't keep coming back with more alternatives time and time again. I think she required the support of another 2 clubs to propose changes but will this be the end of the road now?

[FilipinoHibs]

You’re joking. Derbies in the mid to late 70s were riots.

Yes they were. But there was no boasting, no delusion they were the big team. All they could do was fight us.

The big team boasting started under Mercer.

[Heisenberg]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5648689/hearts-sfa-membership-revoked-court/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1590787896

[Waxy]

It needs to go to court.
We’ll get artist impressions of Budge n stuff like that.
Bring in the witnesses.
Ton Englisher
Alan Preston
Micheal Stewart
Hearts are too big to be expelled because hearts spent millions to try and not be relegaspelled.

[Waxy]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5648689/hearts-sfa-membership-revoked-court/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1590787896

Well wouldnt you know it?

[Logie Green]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5648689/hearts-sfa-membership-revoked-court/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1590787896

Rule 5.1c....how apt.....

[007]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5648689/hearts-sfa-membership-revoked-court/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1590787896

"JAMBOS FACE KO Hearts face having SFA membership REVOKED if they take SPFL to court"

That would be a shame.

Imagine being daft enough not to check that out. You'd think a top conveyancer would have known anout that.

Maybe they'll get their expulsion after all.

[007]

Rule 5.1c....how apt.....

You mean it's actually there in the rules? Not just Doncaster saying he doesn’t know for sure, it's just hearsay but apparently there's a rule that might say something like that?

[bringbackbenny]

Rule 5.1c....how apt.....

It's ok as Queen Anne doesn't lower herself to read rules.

[Waxy]

Budge will be inwardly delighted by that but she probably knew it. Easy get out now with no reprisals from the screaming Duncans.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5648689/hearts-sfa-membership-revoked-court/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1590787896

NOOOOOO!!! Don’t spoil the court case. :-(

[PaulSmith]

Can you imagine that Gorgie rage if Hearts are expelled from the Scottish Cup and we get a bye into the final 😂

[AltheHibby]

I just cant think of anything to say to describe this:

23454




Either you undercover boys are doing a great job or they really are batsh*t crazy over there.

"We’re gonna be absolutely drowning in compo cash. Good wee nest egg for joining the bottom of the English leagues as the rest of Scottish football collapses and you just have Rangers and Celtic playing Each other every week. "

[Aldo]

Potential blinder being played by Doncaster and co? Still a wee bit to go so cmon Anne don’t let us down! [emoji23]


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[04Sauzee]

They honestly believe they will be 'dining at the top table' or playing in the the EFL 🥴

[007]

I just cant think of anything to say to describe this:

23454




Either you undercover boys are doing a great job or they really are batsh*t crazy over there.

"We’re gonna be absolutely drowning in compo cash. Good wee nest egg for joining the bottom of the English leagues as the rest of Scottish football collapses and you just have Rangers and Celtic playing Each other every week. "

Joining the English leagues. That would be the funniest thing ever to see them trying to do that. Please make it happen.

Incidentally, do these guys actually realise people other than Hearts fans can see what they're posting?

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm gonna be absolutely gutted when the sparryheids could be playing the likes of man u/man city/ chelski/spurs/arsenal within the next 5 years, indeed they might even be fast tracked straight to the EPL under threat of court action if they are made to start in the conference league...watch out england the pop tarts are coming

Next...the champions league

fair guttin

[SuperAllyMcleod]

Joining the English leagues. That would be the funniest thing ever to see them trying to do that. Please make it happen.

Incidentally, do these guys actually realise people other than Hearts fans can see what they're posting?

I’d like to see them accepted into the English league under the condition that they increase the length of their pitch to UEFA standards.