The generic Hearts thread

[Green Reaper]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/forum/1-the-terrace/
Howling ������6:flag:
"We are finally acting like a big club"

What species are they? They are completely bonkers going by some of the things they say on that thread, detached from reality 😮

[AltheHibby]

What species are they? They are completely bonkers going by some of the things they say on that thread, detached from reality 😮

In 20 seconds I read enough material to keep a psychiatrist in work for life. There is less self awareness there than there currently is in the White (supremacist) House.

[plhibs]

One person (i think) posted we are acting more like a big German club. You just have to shake your head about that:confused:

[Tambo]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/forum/1-the-terrace/
Howling ������6:flag:
"We are finally acting like a big club"

Heart*of*Midlothian and Rangers are the only clubs in Scotland that matter. The rest are either*diddy or belong over the*Irish*sea

[Since452]

Heart*of*Midlothian and Rangers are the only clubs in Scotland that matter. The rest are either*diddy or belong over the*Irish*sea

Holy ****. What planet do they live on?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

"The stand costs overran. Nobody could reasonably deny that. The money that went in to it, wasn’t going to be spent on the squad, if it wasn’t needed though. Once the stadium is 100% finished, it will generate a ****-tonne of cash for us, and it will have been completed without running up a huge debt to the club."

[jacomo]

Their Daniel has insisted on Twitter that sportive-wise they were on the right track. Nice to know.

I wonder how bad they would have been if they were on the wrong track?

[Springbank]

Their Daniel has insisted on Twitter that sportive-wise they were on the right track. Nice to know.

I wonder how bad they would have been if they were on the wrong track?

I hope that - like his Christmas message to the 400,000 - he tweeted this, fully clothed, from inside a sauna or a garden shed

[Green_one]

I rarely go onto Kickback for obvious reasons but currently it is like an asylum has emptied its beds and they have all got access to the site. Really crazy views, hardly ever contradicted.

Their continued lack of ability to do simple arithmetic is no surprise but now giving complex legal views seems another step into the void of unreality.

Basically they almost all need help. Serious psychiatric help. That and the schools are not back yet. :na na:

[Greenworld]

Heart*of*Midlothian and Rangers are the only clubs in Scotland that matter. The rest are either*diddy or belong over the*Irish*seaDouble whammy since they also should be deported to over the irish sea but the north side of the island [emoji16][emoji16]

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[Since452]

Their Daniel has insisted on Twitter that sportive-wise they were on the right track. Nice to know.

I wonder how bad they would have been if they were on the wrong track?

That's a fake account. It was full of "Daniel" slating Hibs around the time he joined Hearts which has all been deleted. All the Jambos falling for it and it's not even him.

[we are hibs]

That's a fake account. It was full of "Daniel" slating Hibs around the time he joined Hearts which has all been deleted. All the Jambos falling for it and it's not even him.

Its clearly his account. He was tweeting about Barnsley in May last year.

[jacomo]

That's a fake account. It was full of "Daniel" slating Hibs around the time he joined Hearts which has all been deleted. All the Jambos falling for it and it's not even him.


Some in the media fallen for it to then:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53164162

[hibeerealist]

There is a general disbelief that the SPFL have challenged the legal action as most seemed to think it was a slam dunk!!!

The odd one or two who post sensible stuff are chased for being hobos/vermin, roasters is too good a word to describe most of the Duncans who post on keekback.

[Smartie]

Double whammy since they also should be deported to over the irish sea but the north side of the island [emoji16][emoji16]

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A bunch of Scottish protestants forced over to the North of Ireland.

What could possibly go wrong?

Why has nobody thought of this before?

[Jones28]

Heart*of*Midlothian and Rangers are the only clubs in Scotland that matter. The rest are either*diddy or belong over the*Irish*sea

Tbf he’s getting a bit of a roasting from the more level headed ones.

[Since452]

The "staunch" element on kickback is rising rapidly

[JeMeSouviens]

Hibs consistently showed that they struggle against any team that puts them under pressure, under both Hecky and Ross. That was obvious from when we were obliterated 6-1 at Ibrox.

Hibs had some really good games after Hecky left, St Johnstone and Aberdeen being good examples, but neither of those teams pressed Hibs properly on the day.

Stendal obviously identified that and played the right tactics.

That's something that really needs to be sorted out for next season.

Or got lucky because the tactics he tried every game paid off for once?

tbh, I thought both teams were pretty awful until they got lucky with the pen for Scott Allan's rush-of-blood handball. That gave them something to fight to hang on to and we seemed to go into our shell even more.

[Bostonhibby]

A bunch of Scottish protestants forced over to the North of Ireland.

What could possibly go wrong?

Why has nobody thought of this before?There's a bit of gardening needs doing at a place called oldderiwalz over there, so it's a a chance to put into practice what they sing a lot about.

Every one's a winner

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[CentreLine]

Has there been any report of hahahahahearts responding to the Compliance Officer? Do they have a limit of time for this?

[Since452]

Sadly been banned from kickback. Only lasted two weeks before being rumbled. Fun while it lasted.

[Jim44]

I only go there to snoop and find the direction of the wind. It’s good for a laugh but I’ve only been tempted to post, maybe 9 times in as many years.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

The "staunch" element on kickback is rising rapidly

Do you mean orange or right-wing?

Or is that the same thing?

[Craig_in_Prague]

Kiwidoug on duncanback, asking if Hibs are bankrupt yet.

.....are we?

🙄

[JohnMcM]

Kiwidoug on duncanback, asking if Hibs are bankrupt yet.

.....are we?

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Hang on, I'll check on some other boakback threads.

[Peevemor]

I only go there to snoop and find the direction of the wind. It’s good for a laugh but I’ve only been tempted to post, maybe 9 times in as many years.It's not even funny across there just now, it's just annoying. They've all become "correcshun", sparryheid, legal eagle, Irvine Welsh stereotypes.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Kiwidoug on duncanback, asking if Hibs are bankrupt yet.

.....are we?

🙄

Deflect and distract

Remember, Hearts in the championship will KILL Scottish football

[Craig_in_Prague]

Deflect and distract

Remember, Hearts in the championship will KILL Scottish football

Its mental over there.

Also some think they might take Shankland and after all the millions they'll be getting, on top of a cheap but good striker, super Robbie back... shings... I need to smoke or drink what they are on I reckon...

[Waxy]

Its mental over there.

Also some think they might take Shankland and after all the millions they'll be getting, on top of a cheap but good striker, super Robbie back... shings... I need to smoke or drink what they are on I reckon...

Some kind of maroon mushroom is my guess

[Since452]

Its mental over there.

Also some think they might take Shankland and after all the millions they'll be getting, on top of a cheap but good striker, super Robbie back... shings... I need to smoke or drink what they are on I reckon...


Utter delusion. They've just been relegated to the financially stricken wilderness of lower league Scottish football. They've got no football until October and no full stand sell outs to Hibs, Celtic and Rangers. The graveness of their financial situation hasn't been aired yet because they're pinning their hopes on a fantasy court case win. They're in for a big shock.

[JohnMcM]

Hang on, I'll check on some other boakback threads.

Yep! We're stuffed. I feel sad.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Some kind of maroon mushroom is my guess

All of them enjoying to spend their maroon pounds at the new tesco at Easter Road I guess.

😱

[tamig]

Utter delusion. They've just been relegated to the financially stricken wilderness of lower league Scottish football. They've got no football until October and no full stand sell outs to Hibs, Celtic and Rangers. The graveness of their financial situation hasn't been aired yet because they're pinning their hopes on a fantasy court case win. They're in for a big shock.

So long as they’re backed by Anderson’s millions they’ll be fine. They are totally dependent on that backing though.

[CropleyWasGod]

Has there been any report of hahahahahearts responding to the Compliance Officer? Do they have a limit of time for this?

Has she actually issued a Notice of Complaint yet? I thought she was just considering it.

[Kojock]

Has she actually issued a Notice of Complaint yet? I thought she was just considering it.

Hearts and Thistle will now be officially written to and asked to explain themselves before a final decision is made on whether to issue them with a notice of complaint for breaking the SFA’s articles of association.

[CropleyWasGod]

Hearts and Thistle will now be officially written to and asked to explain themselves before a final decision is made on whether to issue them with a notice of complaint for breaking the SFA’s articles of association.

Ta.

"Explaaaaain yourself" has me in nasty flashbacks..

[CentreLine]

Hearts and Thistle will now be officially written to and asked to explain themselves before a final decision is made on whether to issue them with a notice of complaint for breaking the SFA’s articles of association.

Much appreciated 👍🏻

[Iggy Pope]

It's not even funny across there just now, it's just annoying. They've all become "correcshun", sparryheid, legal eagle, Irvine Welsh stereotypes.

As he has always called them to be. He’s not been wrong.

[jacomo]

The "staunch" element on kickback is rising rapidly


Hope they enjoy ‘defending’ their status as favourites for the championship next season.

[GibbytheHibby2]

Deflect and distract

Remember, Hearts in the championship will KILL Scottish football

Armageddon II

[04Sauzee]

More worried about Hibs when you read tweets like this 😂🤣

Not the real McInnes btw

https://twitter.com/DerekMcInnes4/status/1276528903314640896?s=19

[Stuart93]

More worried about Hibs when you read tweets like this 😂🤣

Not the real McInnes btw

https://twitter.com/DerekMcInnes4/status/1276528903314640896?s=19

Jesus.

[Heisenberg]

More worried about Hibs when you read tweets like this 😂🤣

Not the real McInnes btw

https://twitter.com/DerekMcInnes4/status/1276528903314640896?s=19

Ron the con at it again 😂

Some folk have too much time on their hands.

[Bostonhibby]

More worried about Hibs when you read tweets like this [emoji23][emoji1787]

Not the real McInnes btw

https://twitter.com/DerekMcInnes4/status/1276528903314640896?s=19If I was a maroon balloon (who lets remember have seen their club actually go bust whilst they were believing everything Romanov told them) I'd be looking at making up a list of all these no marks who keep prophecising legal victories, avoiding relegation, beating St Mirren, finishing the stand and the relentless Hibs going bust nonsense, then avoiding them like the erses they are.



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[jacomo]

More worried about Hibs when you read tweets like this 😂🤣

Not the real McInnes btw

https://twitter.com/DerekMcInnes4/status/1276528903314640896?s=19


He’s right about one thing - what he says doesn’t add up!

[Jim44]

Why Derek McIness? I assume it’s a hurting Jambo who’s created the false account, but a bit random.

[Iggy Pope]

Why Derek McIness? I assume it’s a hurting Jambo who’s created the false account, but a bit random.

He’s also tweeted about “Budgies bed bouncing again” in reply to one of the Neilson tweets. Sounds like an all round agitator.

[Wakeyhibee]

If I was a maroon balloon (who lets remember have seen their club actually go bust whilst they were believing everything Romanov told them) I'd be looking at making up a list of all these no marks who keep prophecising legal victories, avoiding relegation, beating St Mirren, finishing the stand and the relentless Hibs going bust nonsense, then avoiding them like the erses they are.



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A list who hasn't might be quicker.

[Tambo]

Which*clubs in the premier*league are most likely to go into Administration.*
Apart from ourselves and Celtic most are in the poo.*
I reckon st mirren and Kilmarnock could go*

There not even in the premier league lol

[dchibs]

Which*clubs in the premier*league are most likely to go into Administration.*
Apart from ourselves and Celtic most are in the poo.*
I reckon st mirren and Kilmarnock could go*

There not even in the premier league lol

I read that thread this morning, what a horrible shower of fans they are, cant believe any other football fans forums go on like they do wanting other clubs to go bust, I like going to the games against them so would not want them or any club to go bust, where would they be without the handouts they are getting. Their fans dont deserve the free money from James Anderson.

[Ozyhibby]

Which*clubs in the premier*league are most likely to go into Administration.*
Apart from ourselves and Celtic most are in the poo.*
I reckon st mirren and Kilmarnock could go*

There not even in the premier league lol

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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[JohnM1875]

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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Being back in training in August is a bit early is it not? Championship doesn't start til October 17th.

They should take an extra month off and build on their millions and millions of pounds they have.

[jacomo]

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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I’m so envious of the position Hearts are in right now.

They are probably favourites for their league next season and you can’t say that about Hibs. Must be because we are forever in their shadow or something.

[Since452]

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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They can comfort themselves with that thought on a cold, wet Wednesday night in Alloa in January

[Bostonhibby]

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHearts, forever using other folks money, if they're so well placed financially and have the community spirit we keep hearing about they'd maybe be aware of the rules around furlough and that taking the cash isn't compulsory.

Shameless.

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[Billy Whizz]

Hearts, forever using other folks money, if they're so well placed financially and have the community spirit we keep hearing about they'd maybe be aware of the rules around furlough and that taking the cash isn't compulsory.

Shameless.

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And also requires Company contribution from August

[Ozyhibby]

And also requires Company contribution from August

They will be doing the company contribution anyway for the players. Other staff though will cost them a bit.


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[Crazyhorse]

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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Yet another victory in their long list of victories this year...

[Billy Whizz]

They will be doing the company contribution anyway for the players. Other staff though will cost them a bit.


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They’ll probably do the same as Hibs, and unfortunately people will lose jobs

[Jones28]

Definitely not championship Hearts. They are going to be loaded.
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A scheme designed to help people get through a time of real crises that would have left millions in financial turmoil. Only right then that hearts use it to build up massive reserves of cash...

[jacomo]

I read that thread this morning, what a horrible shower of fans they are, cant believe any other football fans forums go on like they do wanting other clubs to go bust, I like going to the games against them so would not want them or any club to go bust, where would they be without the handouts they are getting. Their fans dont deserve the free money from James Anderson.


They were praying they could beat St Mirren and then call the season so they would be relegated, then praying another club would go bust so they could take their place as ‘club 12’.

Shameless hypocrites.

[malcolm]

23701

I think this is the view of other clubs that is held over there.. not sure why they are so keen to rub shoulders with such a diddy lot :greengrin

[Springbank]

Watching Amy Whitehouse on Glastonbury replay, and all I'm hearing is

"They tried to get a reconstruction
We said No, No, No.

You're going down
You're going down

Go. Go. Go"

[Andy74]

They were praying they could beat St Mirren and then call the season so they would be relegated, then praying another club would go bust so they could take their place as ‘club 12’.

Shameless hypocrites.

There’s absolutely no doubt that if they were 11th they would be the most vocal crowd in ensuring that everyone accepted the fact that the bottom team still had to be relegated.

[Since452]

There’s absolutely no doubt that if they were 11th they would be the most vocal crowd in ensuring that everyone accepted the fact that the bottom team still had to be relegated.

Correct. They'd be releasing statements banging on about supporting integrity and how reconstruction wasn't needed.

[rossevenil]

23701

I think this is the view of other clubs that is held over there.. not sure why they are so keen to rub shoulders with such a diddy lot :greengrin

Shock Rangers and Celtic Front and Centre! :greengrin

[Iain G]

Watching Amy Whitehouse on Glastonbury replay, and all I'm hearing is

"They tried to get a reconstruction
We said No, No, No.

You're going down
You're going down

Go. Go. Go"

New version being released, a debut single from local Edinburgh artist, Annie Maroonhoose:

They tried to make a vote at Dens Park,
And they said, "No, um, yes"

Yes, I've been slack
But Robbie's come back, with Craig in tow
I ain't got a clue
And Leslie wants to sue,

They're trying to make us go to Starks Park
We won't go, go, go

etc etc etc

[Pagan Hibernia]

A club utterly devoid of class, honour and dignity.

[Since452]

The third biggest, hugest, bigliest club in Scotland that have won less major trophies than Hibs in half a century. Perennial yo-yo club back for another adventure in their favourite league. Tramps.

[Barney McGrew]

Craig Gordon signs for them on a two year deal.

I assume his wage will be subsidised from the savings they made when they threatened ripping up the contracts of the rest of the first team if they didn’t take a cut. Classy.

[Green Blood]

Craig Gordon signs for them on a two year deal.

I assume his wage will be subsidised from the savings they made when they threatened ripping up the contracts of the rest of the first team if they didn’t take a cut. Classy.

Heard Levein has the boots polished and is training by walking 20 yards each day to and from the bookies! Expect Rudeboy Satchel, John Blobertson signings to follow shortly!

[Iain G]

Craig Gordon signs for them on a two year deal.

I assume his wage will be subsidised from the savings they made when they threatened ripping up the contracts of the rest of the first team if they didn’t take a cut. Classy.

So how can they afford him with an £8m black hole in their finances?

[EI255]

Find the signing astonishing on two levels.

CG said over the weekend he wanted to test himself against the top strikers. Well, that won't happen in the second teir. No chance of that.

Also, how on earth can they afford this? They appear to be on a reckless spending spree. Again. Hell mend them!!

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[marinello59]

So how can they afford him with an £8m black hole in their finances?

Surely they wouldn’t have lied about that. Not them.

[Heisenberg]

Find the signing astonishing on two levels.

CG said over the weekend he wanted to test himself against the top strikers. Well, that won't happen in the second teir. No chance of that.

Also, how on earth can they afford this? They appear to be on a reckless spending spree. Again. Hell mend them!!

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JA and his pals seem content to continue chucking money at it till Budgie finally finds a winning formula.

[Since452]

Was always going to end up back at Hearts. Only St Mirren showed an interest which seemed to go quiet. He'll be on holiday most of the season against the likes of Alloa. Easy money.

[Brightside]

It’s shows how useless they are with cash if they are happy to use a large chunk of player budget on a goalie in the championship.

[Billy Whizz]

Was always going to end up back at Hearts. Only St Mirren showed an interest which seemed to go quiet. He'll be on holiday most of the season against the likes of Alloa. Easy money.

Can they immediately furlough him?
Not sure the government rules on this

[calumhibee1]

Can they immediately furlough him?
Not sure the government rules on this

Sure new cases of furlough finished weeks ago - so if you weren’t already on it back then you’re not getting on it now. I think anyway?

[calumhibee1]

It’s shows how useless they are with cash if they are happy to use a large chunk of player budget on a goalie in the championship.

Yup. If they spend their money even semi wisely then their goalie should have very little to do. So surely you’d go for a competent goalie and better outfield players.

[Stanton Spence]

Yup. If they spend their money even semi wisely then their goalie should have very little to do. So surely you’d go for a competent goalie and better outfield players.A good keeper doesn't just have to make great saves to prove his worth though mate. It gives the whole team a confidence especially at the back. Get your spine off the team right, starting with your keeper then your more than half way there

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[Green Blood]

They clearly expect another season of mediocre to scheidt outfield play so have signed Gordon as a safety net!

[Waxy]

Most of the hearts team have chocolate legs anyway.Can see them struggle to get out the championship.

[Steven79]

Find the signing astonishing on two levels.

CG said over the weekend he wanted to test himself against the top strikers. Well, that won't happen in the second teir. No chance of that.

Also, how on earth can they afford this? They appear to be on a reckless spending spree. Again. Hell mend them!!

Sent from my LG-H870 using TapatalkThey deserve to go bankrupt.

That lot will never learn from past mistakes...

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[steviehibsleith]

JA and his pals seem content to continue chucking money at it till Budgie finally finds a winning formula.


UEFA FFP ?

Hearts revenue = £8 million thy Spend £9 million . JA steps in cheque for £1.2 million ….. all OK £200 yearly profit.

Is this not financial doping against UEFA FFP


Man City challanging a two year ban for alleged inflating sponsor deals so revenue is higher .

How do Hearts work around this, not a one off donation as JA has done this yealy or surely Shiek Monsur Man City would do it

I know figures may be incorrect but the context is .

[Stanton Spence]

UEFA FFP ?

Hearts revenue = £8 million thy Spend £9 million . JA steps in cheque for £1.2 million ….. all OK £200 yearly profit.

Is this not financial doping against UEFA FFP


Man City challanging a two year ban for alleged inflating sponsor deals so revenue is higher .

How do Hearts work around this it not a one off donation or surely Shiek Monsur Man City would do it

I know figures may be incorrect but the context is .I could be wrong but I've read that FFP doesn't come into play with our league?
They have no scruples and are really showing their class these past few months

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[Peevemor]

I doubt Gordon is on a very high wage at Hearts. He'll have made a good whack from the game and I suspect he's more interested in getting a start every week than anything else.

[JimBHibees]

UEFA FFP ?

Hearts revenue = £8 million thy Spend £9 million . JA steps in cheque for £1.2 million ….. all OK £200 yearly profit.

Is this not financial doping against UEFA FFP


Man City challanging a two year ban for alleged inflating sponsor deals so revenue is higher .

How do Hearts work around this, not a one off donation as JA has done this yealy or surely Shiek Monsur Man City would do it

I know figures may be incorrect but the context is .

Because they are not in Europe though it is galling I think that a league where in effect two out of the top four or five teams are liquidated that there are still as far as I know no meaningful or any financial fair play rules.

[steviehibsleith]

Because they are not in Europe though it is galling I think that a league where in effect two out of the top four or five teams are liquidated that there are still as far as I know no meaningful or any financial fair play rules.
Stanton Spence saying the same as yourself .
All explained Thanks

[Garibaldis]

Decent signing for a Championship team.

[Skol]

More importantly, is he cup tied for the semi final !

[bingo70]

More importantly, is he cup tied for the semi final !

No, he can play in the semi.

[flash]

No, he can play in the semi.
That remains to be seen.

[JohnMcM]

A club utterly devoid of class, honour and dignity.

................ and Premiership status :greengrin

[G B Young]

"I feel there's a project starting here," claims Gordon.

Does he mean the "project" that started six or seven years ago and is now on its umpteenth re-boot?

Footballers do say some daft/meaningless things designed to get them on side with the fans when they come back to a club. "I feel I've got unfinished business here" is another one. If that's really the case why do they want to leave in the first place?

[KeithTheHibby]

Who cares who they sign? I won't be losing sleep over a team in a different division signing a washed up 37 year old goalkeeper.

[mal]

"I feel there's a project starting here," claims Gordon.

Does he mean the "project" that started six or seven years ago and is now on its umpteenth re-boot?

Footballers do say some daft/meaningless things designed to get them on side with the fans when they come back to a club. "I feel I've got unfinished business here" is another one. If that's really the case why do they want to leave in the first place?

Operation East of Scotland League.

[Col2]

Do Hearts get to play in the tunnocks tea cake lower league pish cup?

[Billy Whizz]

Do Hearts get to play in the tunnocks tea cake lower league pish cup?

They sure will do if it goes ahead

[660]

They sure will do if it goes ahead

They might get a money spinning glamour tie against hibs under21s

[Since452]

Do Hearts get to play in the tunnocks tea cake lower league pish cup?

Sure do. They'll be desperate to add that to their honours list next to the 1962 league cup and WW1/2.

[Ozyhibby]

They might get a money spinning glamour tie against hibs under21s

Be a big crowd for that. [emoji3]
Actually we may not have a u21’s next season anyway.
I take it Hearts won’t be able to enter their u21’s into the tournament seen as their first team is in it?


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[Steven79]

Be a big crowd for that. [emoji3]
Actually we may not have a u21’s next season anyway.
I take it Hearts won’t be able to enter their u21’s into the tournament seen as their first team is in it?


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[Kato]

Do Hearts get to play in the tunnocks tea cake lower league pish cup?

It's the "Time-Out Waver 6 for Quid Cup" this season.

[Skol]

Hearts 0 - hearts u21 3

[Since452]

Hearts 0 - hearts u21 3

Only the big teams get to enter their colts. Hearts will need to play their full team

[Keith_M]

As long as he can keep fit, Gordon could be a decent signing.

I realise he's 37 but goalkeepers tend to have a longer career than outfield players, e.g. Dino Zoff was 40 y/o when he captained the Italian side to a World Cup win in '82

[Since452]

As long as he can keep fit, Gordon could be a decent signing.

I realise he's 37 but goalkeepers tend to have a longer career than outfield players, e.g. Dino Zoff was 40 y/o when he captained the Italian side to a World Cup win in '82

Sure Leighton was around 40 at us and was brilliant

[mal]

Sure Leighton was around 40 at us and was brilliant

38 when he left us I think but he played a few more years for the Dons.

[Keith_M]

Sure Leighton was around 40 at us and was brilliant


Another good example.

I think he was in his late 30s when he was with Hibs but then signed for Aberdeen and retired at about 42.

[Jim44]

It’s churlish to say anything other than it’s a good bit of business for them. Possibly the best bit of news they’ve had for a couple of years ........ every dog has it’s day. :greengrin

[mal]

It’s churlish to say anything other than it’s a good bit of business for them. Possibly the best bit of news they’ve had for a couple of years ........ every dog has it’s day. :greengrin

That's what they thought when Naismith signed his 4 year deal. Gordon may turn out to be great for them but it's a bit premature to go congratulating them now, particularly given that by the time the Championship kicks off he won't have played a league game for about 22 months...

[SHODAN]

Do Hearts get to play in the tunnocks tea cake lower league pish cup?

Would be great if they played our U21s.

[Jim44]

That's what they thought when Naismith signed his 4 year deal. Gordon may turn out to be great for them but it's a bit premature to go congratulating them now, particularly given that by the time the Championship kicks off he won't have played a league game for about 22 months...

Steady on now, who’s congratulating them? Decent signing ..... that’s all.

[Northernhibee]

That's what they thought when Naismith signed his 4 year deal. Gordon may turn out to be great for them but it's a bit premature to go congratulating them now, particularly given that by the time the Championship kicks off he won't have played a league game for about 22 months...

Scott Bain got a game ahead of him before they signed Fraser Forster, and Scott Bain really isn't that fantastic. A good keeper but no more than that.

[Brightside]

It’s churlish to say anything other than it’s a good bit of business for them. Possibly the best bit of news they’ve had for a couple of years ........ every dog has it’s day. :greengrin

A championship club with a £8m financial hole buying a goalie on 4K a week minimum will never be a good bit of business.

[Jim44]

A championship club with a £8m financial hole buying a goalie on 4K a week minimum will never be a good bit of business.

Ok, bad use of the word business. Still a decent signing.

[Since452]

2020 has been a nightmare but imagine being a Hearts fan

[Waxy]

Gordon and Naismith, they like signing a fossil or two.

[Sammy7nil]

Hearts and Partick Thistle £10m threat to clubs lost support and they might regret it if decisions go against them - Keith Jackson
The battle goes to the Court of Session this week and adds to the madness of Scottish football during lockdown.




Hearts and Partick Thistle £10m threat to clubs lost support and they might regret it if decisions go against them - Keith Jackson

The battle goes to the Court of Session this week and adds to the madness of Scottish football during lockdown.



Years from now when historians reflect on the Great Lockdown of 2020 they will see that Scottish football led the way as the true pioneer of this pandemic.



Records will show that the game in this country descended into a state of complete and utter madness long before the rest of the real world eventually caved in and lost the plot too.



It’s a scary place out there these days and some of the events of the last few weeks have been enough to make you wonder if there’s much to be gained from ever going out the front door again.



Certainly, the vein-popping insanity which has throttled the SPFL since March shows no sign of loosening its grip any time soon.





In fact, it will be cranked up again over the next few days as Hearts and Partick Thistle kick the whole drama into the Court of Session, having already issued the rest of Scotland’s clubs with a £10million relegation ransom note.



If they get their way we’re all about to be dragged back to the very start of this crisis and the decision to call time on a season after it had been infected by the same virus which has unleashed such suffering and chaos.



From Dundee and their mysterious flip-flopping to Neil Doncaster and his dubious back channelling, it could all be dragged back into the public domain like a recurring nightmare.



The trouble is, where there was almost unanimous sympathy back then for the plight of these two clubs, and for Thistle in particular, the mood around this new normal has taken a turn for the worse.



There are some clubs in agreement that the M8 alliance have been left with no option but to press the big red button.



But there are others, and plenty of them, who have been infuriated by the manner in which they have gone about it and, in particular, by the enormity of their demands.



The threat to trigger an interim interdict to prevent next season from kicking off as scheduled on August 1 has also raised the temperature significantly and contributed to the feelings of ill will swirling around the 12
top-flight clubs.



At 3pm on Wednesday, just hours after the preliminary hearing at the Court of Session, all 12 of them will dial into a video conference call to discuss the next step in Scottish football’s recovery



On the agenda is a proposed rule change which would empower SPFL chief executive Doncaster and his board with emergency powers to act as they see fit should, heaven forbid, another pandemic force our game back into lockdown at some point in the future.



Over the weekend, Doncaster was also locked in fruitful talks with the Scottish government to secure permission for Premiership clubs to restart full contact training from this morning. That means the top 12 can now arrange pre-season friendlies between themselves while also advancing plans to get fans safely back inside their grounds as quickly as possible and turning on the tap of matchday revenue.

All the while, Hearts and Thistle continue to hold a gun to the game’s head over the manner in which last season was shut down.



It’s this refusal to allow the rest to focus fully on moving forward which is causing resentment to build and tempers to fray.

This is likely to dominate the conversations on Wednesday.



There is every chance that this uncertainty and rancour will all still be rumbling on in three weeks’ time when the SPFL holds its AGM to decide on the make-up of Doncaster’s board for the new campaign. There’s also every chance Celtic’s chief executive Peter Lawwell will be re-appointed to the set-up at that stage, replacing Rangers managing director Stewart Robertson as has become the customary summer boardroom job swap in recent times.



If that happens then Lawwell, who has kept his own counsel throughout this period of
unprecedented unrest, will be dragged into the thick of the fight.



He’s unlikely to join in quietly or, for that matter, to feel much in the way of empathy for the two clubs most sorely aggrieved.



It really is a mess of gargantuan proportions and as the bad blood continues to simmer behind the scenes Scottish football’s dirtiest laundry may now be aired in full public view, assuming Hearts and Thistle’s lawyers win the argument on Wednesday morning.

If it is decided by Lord Clark that the case should proceed to the Court of Session the two rebellious clubs will feel their own actions have been largely vindicated, no matter how much anger they have caused among the others.



If, however, it is batted out at the first stage and Hearts and Thistle are ordered to enter into arbitration through the SFA instead, the whole basis for their claim will have been greatly undermined.



If the issue of a compensation claim somehow winds up going back to the vote of all 42 clubs then Hearts and Thistle would be as well standing outside and whistling for their cash. There may have been a time and place for such a conversation.



Even the most myopic and self-interested of chairmen and chief executives could see the blatant unfairness of what was done to these two clubs back in March when football was stopped.



But much has changed over these historic, life-changing last four months.



What was once a cruel world is in danger of losing its mind. At least our game will be there to welcome it to the madhouse.


They are going mad about this on KB Lawell is threatening them via Keef Jackson :rolleyes::confused:

[we are hibs]

Would be great if they played our U21s.

Similar happened in England not long ago with Sunderland playing Newcastle u21s in the checkatrade trophy. Sunderland won 4-0 infront of 16k

[EI255]

Ok, bad use of the word business. Still a decent signing.they clearly have money to burn.

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[EI255]

Scott Bain got a game ahead of him before they signed Fraser Forster, and Scott Bain really isn't that fantastic. A good keeper but no more than that.Yet another Jambo is he.

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[EI255]

As long as he can keep fit, Gordon could be a decent signing.

I realise he's 37 but goalkeepers tend to have a longer career than outfield players, e.g. Dino Zoff was 40 y/o when he captained the Italian side to a World Cup win in '82Wait till lumps are kicked out him in the lower league.

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[BH Hibs]

Decent signing for a Championship team.

Don't know if he'll fit into their hoofball style his kicking is pretty dire.

[jacomo]

Ref: Keith Jackson story above - not sure how good his info is, but could be read as a wee shot across the bows from Celtc.

Of course, after threatening to disrupt the return of football and claiming a spurious £8m compensation or denying other clubs their promotion, Hearts will claim that they are being threatened and bullied.

It’s all so unfair!

[mixumatosis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

[Greenworld]

A championship club with a £8m financial hole buying a goalie on 4K a week minimum will never be a good bit of business.If fit a great shot stopper. Hopeless at crosses and even worse with ball at feet. The last part is why celtic were happy for him to go. He has some nightmares in his later games with them.
Not sure on wages but the attraction might be getting max wages even when on the treatment bench with Stevie nay

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[JimBHibees]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

So Levein is on sportsound again, seamless move to the Jambo retirement home I see. Complete joke.

[portohibee]

A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

[Heisenberg]

A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

Think I’ve heard the same from them for the past five transfer windows. They are desperate for him to end up at tiny.

[Coco Bryce]

So Levein is on sportsound again, seamless move to the Jambo retirement home I see. Complete joke.

Is he? Such a charismatic figure right enough :rolleyes:

[Billy Whizz]

A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

Robbie’s slayer

[portohibee]

Think I’ve heard the same from them for the past five transfer windows. They are desperate for him to end up at tiny.

I know but they seem to think its genuine this time.

[Kato]

I know but they seem to think its genuine this time.

Like the other five times.

[portohibee]

Like the other five times.

I do hope your right.

[JimBHibees]

Is he? Such a charismatic figure right enough :rolleyes:

Yep dull as dishwater. His exclusive today was that he doesn't trust sports scientists. Absolute dinosaur.

[weecounty hibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

Why do the press keep on speaking to fuds like him? A complete and utter loser for his whole career as player and manager. Was left behind as a coach and a manager by modern day football, tactics etc. It is unbelievable that they keep on asking him, Billy Brown, Jim Jeffries, Neil McCann etc for opinions

[Kato]

Why do the press keep on speaking to fuds like him? A complete and utter loser for his whole career as player and manager. Was left behind as a coach and a manager by modern day football, tactics etc. It is unbelievable that they keep on asking him, Billy Brown, Jim Jeffries, Neil McCann etc for opinions

Fuddery sells.

[Brunswickbill]

Why do the press keep on speaking to fuds like him? A complete and utter loser for his whole career as player and manager. Was left behind as a coach and a manager by modern day football, tactics etc. It is unbelievable that they keep on asking him, Billy Brown, Jim Jeffries, Neil McCann etc for opinions

Nobody with any sense would go anywhere near that programme. If you don’t adhere to their “SPFL shambles/incompetent /corrupt“ and “Budge is wonderful” agendas you’ll be shouted down.

[percy veer]

A few of them ive spoken to seem to think a deal to sign Jason Cummings is 'just about over the line' too??

I just don't get the obsession they have with signing him, hibs cup winning legend

[bawheid]

I just don't get the obsession they have with signing him, hibs cup winning legend

Stockholm Syndrome. He’s held them captive in their own heads for four years.

[ian cruise]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?

Assuming this was the outcome of his review to revamp Hearts failing fitness regime?

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/ann-budge-reveals-craig-levein-role-hearts-plan-revamp-medical-department-bid-reduce-injuries-1361184

[jacomo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53222396

Levein thinks sports scientists have too much influence.

I forget, how was Hearts' injury record during his time in charge ?


:agree:

Hearts under Levein were either chronically unlucky with injuries or he wasn’t listening to the sports scientists enough.

Or is he saying that the players just didn’t want to play for him?

[007]

:agree:

Hearts under Levein were either chronically unlucky with injuries or he wasn’t listening to the sports scientists enough.

Or is he saying that the players just didn’t want to play for him?

Haven't listened to the podcast but some of the injuries will have been down to players exaggerating how bad injuries were because they wanted to avoid the abuse from the fans and were on a high basic to bonus ratio (just one of Budge's many bad decisions) so they were still getting paid handsomely sitting out each week.

[ian cruise]

:agree:

Hearts under Levein were either chronically unlucky with injuries or he wasn’t listening to the sports scientists enough.

Or is he saying that the players just didn’t want to play for him?

Exactly, from the guru

"I found it quite alien. The difficulty is sports scientists speak to the players and they start to believe they shouldn't be tired and they want to do less."

However in Jan they needed a review after having 210+ players unavailable due to injury across two seasons, funnily enough while Craig Levein was managing them

[Wakeyhibee]

Complete panic buying just to prove to the court they will lose £8m :greengrin

She might just achieve it at this rate.

[Eyrie]

Complete panic buying just to prove to the court they will lose £8m :greengrin

She might just achieve it at this rate.

And they won't have lost a penny because Benny Factor and Save Hearts In Trouble are footing the bill.

[SHODAN]

I don't find Hearts spending money they don't have funny at all. They've been doing it for years and there never seems to be any lasting damage from it each and every time. Meanwhile we have always spent within our means and have gained no tangible benefit from it.

[FilipinoHibs]

I don't find Hearts spending money they don't have funny at all. They've been doing it for years and there never seems to be any lasting damage from it each and every time. Meanwhile we have always spent within our means and have gained no tangible benefit from it.

SC, promotion and finishing above Hearts for three seasons in a row. Our dignity. I 'll take that.

[chrisski33]

So Levein is on sportsound again, seamless move to the Jambo retirement home I see. Complete joke.

Will be interesting when hes on the same time with Michael Stewart

[JimBHibees]

Will be interesting when hes on the same time with Michael Stewart

Think Michael has been put out to pasture disappointingly as he was the best by miles on the show.

[The Count]

If i was a multi millionaire i would invest in Hibs.However if they were squandering my money i would soon stop any donations.So why on earth does a wise financial benefactor continue to give money to a badly run business called Hearts.It does not make sense he aint some stupid jambo how happens to be minted.

[tamig]

If i was a multi millionaire i would invest in Hibs.However if they were squandering my money i would soon stop any donations.So why on earth does a wise financial benefactor continue to give money to a badly run business called Hearts.It does not make sense he aint some stupid jambo how happens to be minted.

Thats the bit I don’t get. They have squandered a ton of his cash yet he keeps on handing it over. And it keeps getting wasted time after time. No logic to it at all.

[Jim44]

Does he own the company? Is he actually donating his own personal fortune or is it from the company. Bet there’s all sorts of tax avoidance schemes attached to it.

[Waxy]

If i was a multi millionaire i would invest in Hibs.However if they were squandering my money i would soon stop any donations.So why on earth does a wise financial benefactor continue to give money to a badly run business called Hearts.It does not make sense he aint some stupid jambo how happens to be minted.
Is it really free though? We dont know the deals, promises, handshakes and whatnot. There must be a catch.

[Peevemor]

If i was a multi millionaire i would invest in Hibs.However if they were squandering my money i would soon stop any donations.So why on earth does a wise financial benefactor continue to give money to a badly run business called Hearts.It does not make sense he aint some stupid jambo how happens to be minted.

Could it be that Budge has ran the decisions that have been taken past him (managers/DOF/signings/budgets...) and he's been in agreement?

[04Sauzee]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

[Jim44]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

How articulate. And to think that he was helping to run the country at one point.

[Peevemor]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

Dearie me! Debating skills finely honed by years in Westminster.

[The Count]

Foulkes has establishment written all over him.A pretend socialist in my opinion.

[NC1875]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

Good old pishy breeks. Typical Duncan

[RoYO!]

Good old pishy breeks. Typical Duncan

Hey that's Lord Pishy Breeks to you!

XD

[Baader]

When Foulkes gives the 5-1 hand signal it usually indicates 5 scotches and 1 pint of Mad Dog 20/20.

[Mick O'Rourke]

How articulate. And to think that he was helping to run the country at one point.
George is and has been a figure of fun on these boards and elsewhere.

Nothing funny about a guy who publicly called for Pope Benedict XV1's visit to Scotland be cancelled saying that the Catholic Church was responsible for the spread of AIDs and he also opposed Roman Catholic schools.

Him and John Cormack would have got on well

He also supported Blair on Iraq.

Saying the Iraqis would benefit from the invasion and be better off.

I knew him slightly during my LP/Trade Union days.
Last time i met him he was staggering out of Jenny Ha's doon The Canongate
A wee session paid on expenses no doubt.

A tory in all but name.

Lord Duncan Disorderly BARon of Cumnock

[Ozyhibby]

George is and has been a figure of fun on these boards and elsewhere.

Nothing funny about a guy who publicly called for Pope Benedict XV1's visit to Scotland be cancelled saying that the Catholic Church was responsible for the spread of AIDs and opposed segregated schools.

Him and John Cormack would have got on well

He also supported Blair on Iraq.

Saying the Iraqis would benefit from the invasion and be better off.

I knew him slightly during my LP/Trade Union days.

A tory in all but name.

Lord Duncan Disorderly BARon of Cumnock

And in all his time as an MP he was probably the only person in his constituency who’s life improved.


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[007]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

He's obviously struggling to come up with such a brilliant response to Billyhibby's reply. 😂😂

[hibsbollah]

George is and has been a figure of fun on these boards and elsewhere.

Nothing funny about a guy who publicly called for Pope Benedict XV1's visit to Scotland be cancelled saying that the Catholic Church was responsible for the spread of AIDs and he also opposed Roman Catholic schools.

Him and John Cormack would have got on well

He also supported Blair on Iraq.

Saying the Iraqis would benefit from the invasion and be better off.

I knew him slightly during my LP/Trade Union days.
Last time i met him he was staggering out of Jenny Ha's doon The Canongate
A wee session paid on expenses no doubt.

A tory in all but name.

Lord Duncan Disorderly BARon of Cumnock

The only time I’ve seen Baron Urine Stained Pantaloons was at Edinburgh Zoo, weirdly. He was walking past the baboon enclosure, barking down his phone in a very loud voice.

Hes so, so Hertz.

[660]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

Can someone paste this. The loathsome fat clown has me blocked.

[Mick O'Rourke]

The only time I’ve seen Baron Urine Stained Pantaloons was at Edinburgh Zoo, weirdly. He was walking past the baboon enclosure, barking down his phone in a very loud voice.

Hes so, so Hertz.

He would have fitted in well there
Maroon Baboon
I bet he either got in free or used his lavish expense account

Not peanuts(pun intended) that's for sure
He loved getting taxis
Even for 100yd journeys
Parly to Jenny's'
Jenny's to Waverley
All on us !!

[hibeerealist]

George is and has been a figure of fun on these boards and elsewhere.

Nothing funny about a guy who publicly called for Pope Benedict XV1's visit to Scotland be cancelled saying that the Catholic Church was responsible for the spread of AIDs and he also opposed Roman Catholic schools.

Him and John Cormack would have got on well

He also supported Blair on Iraq.

Saying the Iraqis would benefit from the invasion and be better off.

I knew him slightly during my LP/Trade Union days.
Last time i met him he was staggering out of Jenny Ha's doon The Canongate
A wee session paid on expenses no doubt.

A tory in all but name.

Lord Duncan Disorderly BARon of Cumnock

Champagne (paid for by another/expenses) socialist Mick, hes no Tory, a complete roaster with wet troosers !

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Can someone paste this. The loathsome fat clown has me blocked.

He replied to "Im sure 'Lord' Foulkes also personally vouched for Vlad Romanov's character and intentions when he bought Hearts. His judgement isn't great." by simply saying 5-1

A genius with a capital J that boy

[Baader]

I don't think auld George is too fussy for what the drink is, so long as someone else is picking up the tab. Seen him coming out The Red Lion in Whitehall once. He wasn't assaulting police officers at the time so had to do a double take.

[Logie Green]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

Given his position it could be said he’s an above average hertz fan which probably says a lot about the rest of them.

[Bostonhibby]

Champagne (paid for by another/expenses) socialist Mick, hes no Tory, a complete roaster with wet troosers !

He does know a bit about expenses right enough. There's some folk who you are just so pleased they are Hearts fans.2371423715

[Joe6-2]

He does know a bit about expenses right enough. There's some folk who you are just so pleased they are Hearts fans.2371423715

Little, fat Jambo b*****d

[proud_and_green]

He does know a bit about expenses right enough. There's some folk who you are just so pleased they are Hearts fans.2371423715
That is very true!

[Iggy Pope]

Drunken old pish-stained fool. It’s 1-5.

[Carheenlea]

Latest tweet from George Foulkes is very insightful into the minds of the average Hearts supporter

https://twitter.com/GeorgeFoulkes/status/1277863366954975232?s=19

Oh dear.

Cringing for the guy - absolutely painful

[Since452]

Oh dear.

Cringing for the guy - absolutely painful

That's a grown man to. A "lord".

[Peevemor]

The EEN at it's best :greengrin


Why Hearts will be a force to be reckon with next season – Angus Robertson


The return of Craig Gordon and Robbie Neilson means Hearts will do well whether they are in the Premiership or Championship, writes Angus Robertson.

Welcome back Craig Gordon. Welcome back Robbie Neilson. The news that the former Hearts goalkeeper is joining the new manager at Tynecastle will come as a great boost. Regardless of what happens in the legal challenge to the Jam Tarts’ relegation, a declaration of intent has been served: Hearts will be a team to be reckoned with in the Premiership or the Championship.


So there!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-hearts-will-be-force-be-reckon-next-season-angus-robertson-2898442

[Jim44]

The EEN at it's best :greengrin



So there!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-hearts-will-be-force-be-reckon-next-season-angus-robertson-2898442

Joined the EEN as part of their political team. 5 minutes in the door and he’s declaring his love for the Jambos and saying how great they’re going to be.

[Dibben]

See Wigan are in Admin.

Stick on the Yams get their place in the league...

😂😂😂😂😂

[Since452]

The EEN at it's best :greengrin



So there!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-hearts-will-be-force-be-reckon-next-season-angus-robertson-2898442

Where do they get this idea from? He expects the club that has been consistently the worst team in the Premiership for the last 18 months to be a force because Robbie Neilson has joined? Really? This is the same recycled drivel they used when Stendel was appointed. They were going to take Scottish football by storm. Nonsense

[Barney McGrew]

We had a better team in the first year in the championship than what we had in the premiership the season we got relegated. Mainly because of a better manager

We had a completely different squad though. Hertz are stuck with the same overpaid donkeys that got them relegated in the first place.

[jacomo]

We had a completely different squad though. Hertz are stuck with the same overpaid donkeys that got them relegated in the first place.


:agree:

Stubbs had only something like 9 players to work with when he came through the door. I see Blaster has retracted his statement!

[Blaster]

:agree:

Stubbs had only something like 9 players to work with when he came through the door. I see Blaster has retracted his statement!

I went to edit and hit delete 😂. My point is they will be stronger this year than last season. They can’t be any worse. No doubt The Rangers will loan them a player or two

[jacomo]

I went to edit and hit delete 😂. My point is they will be stronger this year than last season. They can’t be any worse. No doubt The Rangers will loan them a player or two


You’re right, they definitely should be. They can’t be worse than the Levein / Stendel shambles.

[KingFranck]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36186819

[Barney McGrew]

You’re right, they definitely should be. They can’t be worse than the Levein / Stendel shambles.

They told us they couldn’t be worse than Cathro as well, but then they managed to get relegated.

Never underestimate Budge when it comes to making an even more disastrous decision than the previous one :greengrin

[Carheenlea]

https://i.postimg.cc/yNSRVqCn/E79-DBB4-D-0-C6-D-4-B65-BDF2-3-A873-BD6366-F.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FfNzZBRJ)

[A Hi-Bee]

Has this smelly jobbie gone yet, has it been flushed away, gone or is it still like a nasty wee broon/maroon crocodile lying just under the water.

[007]

https://i.postimg.cc/yNSRVqCn/E79-DBB4-D-0-C6-D-4-B65-BDF2-3-A873-BD6366-F.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FfNzZBRJ)

😂

Back down you go.

[04Sauzee]

Looks like Hearts are about to be busy in the transfer window

dazajmbo dazajmbo

Posted 3 hours ago
Aaron Hickey will almost certainly join Manchester City in a permanent deal this window, with the option of loaning back for upto 18 months. The payment from Man City will be in installments and will include a 31% sell on clause to Hearts. Hearts will not pay any percent of his wage if he does return on loan. A left winger is also being looked at on loan from City.



Colin Doyle to leave soon.



Interest in John Souttar from Aston Villa, John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.



Michael Smith is in the thoughts of several english championship sides, aswell as Rangers.



Sam Nicholson desperate to come back to Hearts but has interest from Bristol City & Aberdeen.



Robbie has earmarked 6 current players he would like to move on, and is in discussion regarding a player from dunfermline and a loan signing from Arsenal.



3 ex players are currently out of contract and have offered to come back for little or no wages until January.



Keen on a central midfielder who is at Motherwell.

[poolman]

Looks like Hearts are about to be busy in the transfer window

dazajmbo dazajmbo

Posted 3 hours ago
Aaron Hickey will almost certainly join Manchester City in a permanent deal this window, with the option of loaning back for upto 18 months. The payment from Man City will be in installments and will include a 31% sell on clause to Hearts. Hearts will not pay any percent of his wage if he does return on loan. A left winger is also being looked at on loan from City.



Colin Doyle to leave soon.



Interest in John Souttar from Aston Villa, John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.



Michael Smith is in the thoughts of several english championship sides, aswell as Rangers.



Sam Nicholson desperate to come back to Hearts but has interest from Bristol City & Aberdeen.



Robbie has earmarked 6 current players he would like to move on, and is in discussion regarding a player from dunfermline and a loan signing from Arsenal.



3 ex players are currently out of contract and have offered to come back for little or no wages until January.



Keen on a central midfielder who is at Motherwell.


He's definitely ITK, 31% sell on clause, very precise 🙄

[EdinMike]

“John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.”

Considered what ?! A God amongst men ?! Laughing at you’re inability to sentence make good not ?!

[Garibaldis]

Looks like Hearts are about to be busy in the transfer window

dazajmbo dazajmbo

Posted 3 hours ago
Aaron Hickey will almost certainly join Manchester City in a permanent deal this window, with the option of loaning back for upto 18 months. The payment from Man City will be in installments and will include a 31% sell on clause to Hearts. Hearts will not pay any percent of his wage if he does return on loan. A left winger is also being looked at on loan from City.



Colin Doyle to leave soon.



Interest in John Souttar from Aston Villa, John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.



Michael Smith is in the thoughts of several english championship sides, aswell as Rangers.



Sam Nicholson desperate to come back to Hearts but has interest from Bristol City & Aberdeen.



Robbie has earmarked 6 current players he would like to move on, and is in discussion regarding a player from dunfermline and a loan signing from Arsenal.



3 ex players are currently out of contract and have offered to come back for little or no wages until January.



Keen on a central midfielder who is at Motherwell.

Colin Doyle will probably go and there might be something in the Nicholson interest. Other than that, absolute pish.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

“John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.”

Considered what ?! A God amongst men ?! Laughing at you’re inability to sentence make good not ?!

Lol

Wow they really are delusional

When McGinn gets his next move he could afford to buy hearts with his cut of the transfer

[ian cruise]

Lol

Wow they really are delusional

When McGinn gets his next move he could afford to buy hearts with his cut of the transfer

Think it's meant to imply McGinn has asked Villa consider a bid for Souttar, it's poorly worded.

[ian cruise]

Colin Doyle will probably go and there might be something in the Nicholson interest. Other than that, absolute pish.

That and Nisbet was on Neilson radar at Dundee Utd so it's not a stretch to imagine they'd want him at Hearts however what Neilson wants and what Hearts can afford/they player wants for his career are two very different things.

Whole thing reads like guesswork.

[Brightside]

Think it's meant to imply McGinn has asked Villa consider a bid for Souttar, it's poorly worded.

Villa won’t be looking at anyone until they know what league they are going to, and Soapy ain’t ever playing in the EPL.

[Since452]

Looks like Hearts are about to be busy in the transfer window

dazajmbo dazajmbo

Posted 3 hours ago
Aaron Hickey will almost certainly join Manchester City in a permanent deal this window, with the option of loaning back for upto 18 months. The payment from Man City will be in installments and will include a 31% sell on clause to Hearts. Hearts will not pay any percent of his wage if he does return on loan. A left winger is also being looked at on loan from City.



Colin Doyle to leave soon.



Interest in John Souttar from Aston Villa, John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.



Michael Smith is in the thoughts of several english championship sides, aswell as Rangers.



Sam Nicholson desperate to come back to Hearts but has interest from Bristol City & Aberdeen.



Robbie has earmarked 6 current players he would like to move on, and is in discussion regarding a player from dunfermline and a loan signing from Arsenal.



3 ex players are currently out of contract and have offered to come back for little or no wages until January.



Keen on a central midfielder who is at Motherwell.

Sam Nicholson to Aberdeen lol good one

[Ozyhibby]

If Man City don’t want Hickey straight away for this season, why would they pay a fee at all, never mind a 31% sell on clause. They can sign him for free in January.


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[greenginger]

If Man City don’t want Hickey straight away for this season, why would they pay a fee at all, never mind a 31% sell on clause. They can sign him for free in January.


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In the Jambo mind they’re queuing up to sign him.

If Citah don’t act now Real Madrid or Chelsea will step in. :greengrin

[Eyrie]

“John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.”

Considered what ?! A God amongst men ?! Laughing at you’re inability to sentence make good not ?!

McGinn was asked because he'd previously played against him and replied "Souttar is definitely considered Championship standard, but that's Scottish Championship not English".

[sean04]

A team that has been relegated and conceded goals all season but Man City, Aston Villa and rangers want 3 out of 4 of there defenders? 😂😂

Outstanding patter

[Garibaldis]

A team that has been relegated and conceded goals all season but Man City, Aston Villa and rangers want 3 out of 4 of there defenders? 😂😂

Outstanding patter

🤣🤣

[Since452]

A team that has been relegated and conceded goals all season but Man City, Aston Villa and rangers want 3 out of 4 of there defenders? 😂😂

Outstanding patter

When you put it like that

[B.H.F.C]

A team that has been relegated and conceded goals all season but Man City, Aston Villa and rangers want 3 out of 4 of there defenders? 😂😂

Outstanding patter

They’re a strange bunch. They just seem to ignore what has happened or is happening and pretend everything is great.

[Baader]

They’re a strange bunch. They just seem to ignore what has happened or is happening and pretend everything is great.

Listening to them you'd think things have never been better over there. They're exactly the sort who would still be ordering cocktails sat at the bar while The Titanic sank. Enjoy the cruise, everything is under control.

[Peevemor]

Listening to them you'd think things have never been better over there. They're exactly the sort who would still be ordering cocktails sat at the bar while The Titanic sank. Enjoy the cruise, everything is under control.What's going on all seems to be part of their master plan, with all the pieces falling nicely into place.

It must really be something else because I can't see any way that they're going to come out on top.

[Irish_Steve]

Sorry to say but it looks like reconstruction is back on the cards, according to Ethan Hunt, one of the Brokeback intelligentsia - what do they know that the rest of Scottish Football doesn't???


Reconstruction - even at this stage - could be put back on the table by the clubs. There will be a few Chairmen - having had time to digest the events and the possible repercussions - that might just be back on the phone to Doncaster to see if it can be revived.



The only way this was going away was if Lord Clark dismissed the case. He didn’t. The possibility of a good outcome for us and PT - especially now we have access to the documents and the arbitration tribunal is not under the jurisdiction of the SFA - has increased in my opinion. If I was a club Chairman - especially of DU/RR/CR - I would be thinking about what I could now lose if it went Pete Tong. I would be asking myself is it is worth the risk. I’m sure a few are.

[Col2]

Looks like Hearts are about to be busy in the transfer window

dazajmbo dazajmbo

Posted 3 hours ago
Aaron Hickey will almost certainly join Manchester City in a permanent deal this window, with the option of loaning back for upto 18 months. The payment from Man City will be in installments and will include a 31% sell on clause to Hearts. Hearts will not pay any percent of his wage if he does return on loan. A left winger is also being looked at on loan from City.



Colin Doyle to leave soon.



Interest in John Souttar from Aston Villa, John McGinn has suggested that he is considered.



Michael Smith is in the thoughts of several english championship sides, aswell as Rangers.



Sam Nicholson desperate to come back to Hearts but has interest from Bristol City & Aberdeen.



Robbie has earmarked 6 current players he would like to move on, and is in discussion regarding a player from dunfermline and a loan signing from Arsenal.



3 ex players are currently out of contract and have offered to come back for little or no wages until January.



Keen on a central midfielder who is at Motherwell.

Dazjambo bless him. He pops up every transfer window whips them all up into a frenzy as a ITK poster and then slips back under a rock when it all goes to ****, which it does every time.

If you pick through it, it’s all close to what anyone would make up if they were a sad fantisist. Man city for Hickey but of course a loan back and very favorable terms but nothing for hearts to pay, of course. Sam Nicolson keen to come back, surprise. 3 ex players willing to play for nothing. Really? Not one, two but three, all willing to play for nothing until Xmas. Wow. A player from Dunfermline I hear you say Daz? Oh that will be Nisbet. Wow What a guy.

In Daz we trust 😂😂😂

[Andy74]

Sorry to say but it looks like reconstruction is back on the cards, according to Ethan Hunt, one of the Brokeback intelligentsia - what do they know that the rest of Scottish Football doesn't???


Reconstruction - even at this stage - could be put back on the table by the clubs. There will be a few Chairmen - having had time to digest the events and the possible repercussions - that might just be back on the phone to Doncaster to see if it can be revived.



The only way this was going away was if Lord Clark dismissed the case. He didn’t. The possibility of a good outcome for us and PT - especially now we have access to the documents and the arbitration tribunal is not under the jurisdiction of the SFA - has increased in my opinion. If I was a club Chairman - especially of DU/RR/CR - I would be thinking about what I could now lose if it went Pete Tong. I would be asking myself is it is worth the risk. I’m sure a few are.

It isn’t really sinking in for them, is it?

[hibbyfraelibby]

Sorry to say but it looks like reconstruction is back on the cards, according to Ethan Hunt, one of the Brokeback intelligentsia - what do they know that the rest of Scottish Football doesn't???


Reconstruction - even at this stage - could be put back on the table by the clubs. There will be a few Chairmen - having had time to digest the events and the possible repercussions - that might just be back on the phone to Doncaster to see if it can be revived.



The only way this was going away was if Lord Clark dismissed the case. He didn’t. The possibility of a good outcome for us and PT - especially now we have access to the documents and the arbitration tribunal is not under the jurisdiction of the SFA - has increased in my opinion. If I was a club Chairman - especially of DU/RR/CR - I would be thinking about what I could now lose if it went Pete Tong. I would be asking myself is it is worth the risk. I’m sure a few are.

No problem with reconstruction as long as its 12-12-10-10😁 Only option not tried and PT would accept it.

[Irish_Steve]

It isn’t really sinking in for them, is it?

It's like that old joke

What's the difference between a drum machine and Hearts............











.......you only have the punch the information into a drum machine once!

[jacomo]

Sorry to say but it looks like reconstruction is back on the cards, according to Ethan Hunt, one of the Brokeback intelligentsia - what do they know that the rest of Scottish Football doesn't???


Reconstruction - even at this stage - could be put back on the table by the clubs. There will be a few Chairmen - having had time to digest the events and the possible repercussions - that might just be back on the phone to Doncaster to see if it can be revived.



The only way this was going away was if Lord Clark dismissed the case. He didn’t. The possibility of a good outcome for us and PT - especially now we have access to the documents and the arbitration tribunal is not under the jurisdiction of the SFA - has increased in my opinion. If I was a club Chairman - especially of DU/RR/CR - I would be thinking about what I could now lose if it went Pete Tong. I would be asking myself is it is worth the risk. I’m sure a few are.


Reconstruction has been comprehensively rejected by the clubs. There is no way the SPFL can force it through without more unrest.

What they can do is make a firm commitment to explore options for 21/22 ... but I would hope they would fix clear deadlines into that process, so we don’t have a repeat of this intolerable situation where a new season is just weeks away but there remains uncertainty about the format.

[Irish_Steve]

Reconstruction has been comprehensively rejected by the clubs. There is no way the SPFL can force it through without more unrest.

What they can do is make a firm commitment to explore options for 21/22 ... but I would hope they would fix clear deadlines into that process, so we don’t have a repeat of this intolerable situation where a new season is just weeks away but there remains uncertainty about the format.

That's what most sane fans think - however, there are fans of a certain club out there that just can't see it

[grunt]

The possibility of a good outcome for us and PT - especially now we have access to the documents and the arbitration tribunal is not under the jurisdiction of the SFA - has increased in my opinion.I don't get this. What do they think is included in the "documents" that are going to magically unlock reconstruction, stop their relegation, and make the SPFL decide to shower them with money? I have no idea what they think is in there that is so important or game-changing.

Does anyone know?

[Bostonhibby]

I don't get this. What do they think is included in the "documents" that are going to magically unlock reconstruction, stop their relegation, and make the SPFL decide to shower them with money? I have no idea what they think is in there that is so important or game-changing.

Does anyone know?Magic beans, they've been hoping someone will sell them some all along and it looks like their top men on Kickback have finally tracked some down.

Some guy called Romanov is supplying them.

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[Waxy]

I don't get this. What do they think is included in the "documents" that are going to magically unlock reconstruction, stop their relegation, and make the SPFL decide to shower them with money? I have no idea what they think is in there that is so important or game-changing.

Does anyone know?its a hearts/kickback thing.Even when the premier league kicks off without them, kickback will be saying its only a matter of time before the league gets scrapped and they’re put back in.
I blame kickback, Tom English and Benny factor for their delusions of ownership of the universe.
Budge just seems to steer the ship whichever way the fans tell her to.

[jacomo]

I don't get this. What do they think is included in the "documents" that are going to magically unlock reconstruction, stop their relegation, and make the SPFL decide to shower them with money? I have no idea what they think is in there that is so important or game-changing.

Does anyone know?


They seem to think the Dundee vote is their Watergate moment. It isn’t.

[Saturday Boy]

They seem to think the Dundee vote is their Watergate moment. It isn’t.

I’m beginning to think that it’s their Watership Down moment.

[Irish_Steve]

I’m beginning to think that it’s their Watership Down moment.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[matty_f]

It isn’t really sinking in for them, is it?

It’s like a cult or something. They’ve been slapped down every step of the way all season, and yet still think things are going their way.

[matty_f]

I don't get this. What do they think is included in the "documents" that are going to magically unlock reconstruction, stop their relegation, and make the SPFL decide to shower them with money? I have no idea what they think is in there that is so important or game-changing.

Does anyone know?

There’s no smoking gun in those documents. It’s absurd to think that here’s going to be something so fundamentally wrong that it throws doubt on everything that happened.

Hearts fans are becoming increasingly fanatical fantasists. Even consistent set backs aren’t waking them up.

[04Sauzee]

@joe_black1509 on twitter knows everything that's going on in the case

He's never been wrong once honest 🙄

[Irish_Steve]

@joe_black1509 on twitter knows everything that's going on in the case

He's never been wrong once honest 🙄

Joe Black may be finding himself in contempt of court due to his tweets during Session

[Heisenberg]

It seems a lot of their legal/reconstruction experts on social media have moved onto being completely in the know about Hibs. They are all convinced we’re going bust, the players have knocked back wage cuts and are all fuming and Ron the con is at it and only bought the club to **** us over. Made for some fun morning reading.

[Bostonhibby]

It seems a lot of their legal/reconstruction experts on social media have moved onto being completely in the know about Hibs. They are all convinced we’re going bust, the players have knocked back wage cuts and are all fuming and Ron the con is at it and only bought the club to **** us over. Made for some fun morning reading.Its amazing how in my 50 plus years of following Hibs, some random jakey in a reversible polyester jacket always seems to get hold of better financial information on Hibs than a shareholder gets from our properly certified annual accounts.

We've been going bust every year I can remember yet look at the comparative position of both clubs today and league positions over what will now be four years.


They're paying way over the top for mediocrity and a reputation not many fans would want for their club.


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[CraigHibee]

Hearts just keep scratching away at any clump of dirt they see to try and find something that isnt there, i cannot wait until this shambolic episode is done and dusted and they sit in the championship where they belong.

They are there on merit, 100%

[jacomo]

Someone really should talk Budge down from the ledge.

Not me... I’m just watching, wondering if she will back down before she kills her club. But someone should.

[Dr What If?]

I don't get this. What do they think is included in the "documents" that are going to magically unlock reconstruction, stop their relegation, and make the SPFL decide to shower them with money? I have no idea what they think is in there that is so important or game-changing.

Does anyone know?

Needs a bit of alternate thinking and a bit of a 'conspiracy' outlook. Dundee voted, the vote would have prolonged the season - hindsight tells us that would have been impossible but back then who knows, we could have been playing again by the end of May. The vote wasn't counted and the reason given sounds a bit dodgy (caught in a spam folder, hmmm), Doncaster has a word and Dundee change their minds. So....why were the SPFL so keen to end the season? Was there some kind of 'arrangement' between the two to make Dundee change their minds? Was it financial? A place on the board? Support for any future resolutions?
Any of the three could be viewed as corruption and while in themselves not reasons to restructure the league or reverse relegations, it does make Doncaster's position untenable and creates an argument for reversing the first vote to end the season.
Lets say it comes to pass that something of that nature happened, we either play the season (in every division) to conclusion behind closed doors or we offer all relegated clubs a compensation payment that will make demotion financially beneficial.
The only 'motive' I can see for ending the season when we did though is that prolonging the uncertainty or playing behind closed doors could have put a number of smaller clubs out of business, hardly self serving. If there was a word with Dundee it would most likely be to point that out, a 'facilitation deal' is highly unlikely.
I still think there is more to come in the form of punishment for Hearts and PT, this isn't just an SFA matter, its UEFA rules they have broken.....do nothing regarding the taking the SFA to court and this has ramifications across Europe, it creates a president any club in any league can cite. If the SFA don't punish Hearts and PT, UEFA may very well punish the SFA.

[Phil MaGlass]

Magic beans, they've been hoping someone will sell them some all along and it looks like their top men on Kickback have finally tracked some down.

Some guy called Romanov is supplying them.

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Its not magic beans but Mr Magic Deans they have their hope in. Insert pi££in ma pants smiley

[007]

Needs a bit of alternate thinking and a bit of a 'conspiracy' outlook. Dundee voted, the vote would have prolonged the season - hindsight tells us that would have been impossible but back then who knows, we could have been playing again by the end of May. The vote wasn't counted and the reason given sounds a bit dodgy (caught in a spam folder, hmmm), Doncaster has a word and Dundee change their minds. So....why were the SPFL so keen to end the season? Was there some kind of 'arrangement' between the two to make Dundee change their minds? Was it financial? A place on the board? Support for any future resolutions?
Any of the three could be viewed as corruption and while in themselves not reasons to restructure the league or reverse relegations, it does make Doncaster's position untenable and creates an argument for reversing the first vote to end the season.
Lets say it comes to pass that something of that nature happened, we either play the season (in every division) to conclusion behind closed doors or we offer all relegated clubs a compensation payment that will make demotion financially beneficial.
The only 'motive' I can see for ending the season when we did though is that prolonging the uncertainty or playing behind closed doors could have put a number of smaller clubs out of business, hardly self serving. If there was a word with Dundee it would most likely be to point that out, a 'facilitation deal' is highly unlikely.
I still think there is more to come in the form of punishment for Hearts and PT, this isn't just an SFA matter, its UEFA rules they have broken.....do nothing regarding the taking the SFA to court and this has ramifications across Europe, it creates a president any club in any league can cite. If the SFA don't punish Hearts and PT, UEFA may very well punish the SFA.

Only in a Tom English, Leslie Deans Jambo fantasy land.

[CockneyRebel]

]Needs a bit of alternate thinking and a bit of a 'conspiracy' outlook. Dundee voted, the vote would have prolonged the season - hindsight tells us that would have been impossible but back then who knows, we could have been playing again by the end of May. The vote wasn't counted and the reason given sounds a bit dodgy (caught in a spam folder, hmmm), Doncaster has a word and Dundee change their minds. So....why were the SPFL so keen to end the season? Was there some kind of 'arrangement' between the two to make Dundee change their minds? Was it financial? A place on the board? Support for any future resolutions?[/B]
Any of the three could be viewed as corruption and while in themselves not reasons to restructure the league or reverse relegations, it does make Doncaster's position untenable and creates an argument for reversing the first vote to end the season.
Lets say it comes to pass that something of that nature happened, we either play the season (in every division) to conclusion behind closed doors or we offer all relegated clubs a compensation payment that will make demotion financially beneficial.
The only 'motive' I can see for ending the season when we did though is that prolonging the uncertainty or playing behind closed doors could have put a number of smaller clubs out of business, hardly self serving. If there was a word with Dundee it would most likely be to point that out, a 'facilitation deal' is highly unlikely.
I still think there is more to come in the form of punishment for Hearts and PT, this isn't just an SFA matter, its UEFA rules they have broken.....do nothing regarding the taking the SFA to court and this has ramifications across Europe, it creates a president any club in any league can cite. If the SFA don't punish Hearts and PT, UEFA may very well punish the SFA.



The vote has already been investigated and declared as following SPFL rules and procedures.

[Wee Mickey]

Only in a Tom English, Leslie Deans Jambo fantasy land.

Or the President’s :wink:

[Since452]

This documentary is going to have some ammount of episodes

[JimBHibees]

Needs a bit of alternate thinking and a bit of a 'conspiracy' outlook. Dundee voted, the vote would have prolonged the season - hindsight tells us that would have been impossible but back then who knows, we could have been playing again by the end of May. The vote wasn't counted and the reason given sounds a bit dodgy (caught in a spam folder, hmmm), Doncaster has a word and Dundee change their minds. So....why were the SPFL so keen to end the season? Was there some kind of 'arrangement' between the two to make Dundee change their minds? Was it financial? A place on the board? Support for any future resolutions?
Any of the three could be viewed as corruption and while in themselves not reasons to restructure the league or reverse relegations, it does make Doncaster's position untenable and creates an argument for reversing the first vote to end the season.
Lets say it comes to pass that something of that nature happened, we either play the season (in every division) to conclusion behind closed doors or we offer all relegated clubs a compensation payment that will make demotion financially beneficial.
The only 'motive' I can see for ending the season when we did though is that prolonging the uncertainty or playing behind closed doors could have put a number of smaller clubs out of business, hardly self serving. If there was a word with Dundee it would most likely be to point that out, a 'facilitation deal' is highly unlikely.
I still think there is more to come in the form of punishment for Hearts and PT, this isn't just an SFA matter, its UEFA rules they have broken.....do nothing regarding the taking the SFA to court and this has ramifications across Europe, it creates a president any club in any league can cite. If the SFA don't punish Hearts and PT, UEFA may very well punish the SFA.

Quite simply UEFA were encouraging leagues to make a decision on their leagues. We have only just started contact training in the last week and the new commercially stronger Sky deal starts from August. All premier teams voted for league to end and points per game.

[jacomo]

Quite simply UEFA were encouraging leagues to make a decision on their leagues. We have only just started contact training in the last week and the new commercially stronger Sky deal starts from August. All premier teams voted for league to end and points per game.


:agree:

Unanimous.

Hearts are relegated and just need to realise it. It’s taking the cretins a while mind.

[Fanforlife]

Its amazing how in my 50 plus years of following Hibs, some random jakey in a reversible polyester jacket always seems to get hold of better financial information on Hibs than a shareholder gets from our properly certified annual accounts.

We've been going bust every year I can remember yet look at the comparative position of both clubs today and league positions over what will now be four years.


They're paying way over the top for mediocrity and a reputation not many fans would want for their club.


Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkOne of the Hibs experts on Keekback ,who supposedly has an in at The Rangers posted earlier today that he has a friend who is an ex teammate of Jack Ross who was telling him that Jack Ross told him that Hibs are in a very bad way,meat and drink for the obsessed overby i suppose, Dingles R Us would be a better name for Keekback!!

[Brunswickbill]

Needs a bit of alternate thinking and a bit of a 'conspiracy' outlook. Dundee voted, the vote would have prolonged the season - hindsight tells us that would have been impossible but back then who knows, we could have been playing again by the end of May. The vote wasn't counted and the reason given sounds a bit dodgy (caught in a spam folder, hmmm), Doncaster has a word and Dundee change their minds. So....why were the SPFL so keen to end the season? Was there some kind of 'arrangement' between the two to make Dundee change their minds? Was it financial? A place on the board? Support for any future resolutions?
Any of the three could be viewed as corruption and while in themselves not reasons to restructure the league or reverse relegations, it does make Doncaster's position untenable and creates an argument for reversing the first vote to end the season.
Lets say it comes to pass that something of that nature happened, we either play the season (in every division) to conclusion behind closed doors or we offer all relegated clubs a compensation payment that will make demotion financially beneficial.
The only 'motive' I can see for ending the season when we did though is that prolonging the uncertainty or playing behind closed doors could have put a number of smaller clubs out of business, hardly self serving. If there was a word with Dundee it would most likely be to point that out, a 'facilitation deal' is highly unlikely.
I still think there is more to come in the form of punishment for Hearts and PT, this isn't just an SFA matter, its UEFA rules they have broken.....do nothing regarding the taking the SFA to court and this has ramifications across Europe, it creates a president any club in any league can cite. If the SFA don't punish Hearts and PT, UEFA may very well punish the SFA.

What would Doncaster’s motivation be to act in a corrupt way? What would he have to gain? Much more than he would have to lose. I’m sure. The corruption/conspiracy stuff has been invented by Sevco and Hearts who have reason to sow confusion to avoid 9IAR and relegation. It’s all nonsense and the “shambles” that they complain about has been caused by these two clubs aided and abetted by Inverness and Partick among others. The vast majority of clubs are keeping quiet and getting on, as best as they can, preparing for next season. The longer this goes on the less sympathy the footballing public will have fof Budge and the famous.

[007]

What would Doncaster’s motivation be to act in a corrupt way? What would he have to gain? Much more than he would have to lose. I’m sure. The corruption/conspiracy stuff has been invented by Sevco and Hearts who have reason to sow confusion to avoid 9IAR and relegation. It’s all nonsense and the “shambles” that they complain about has been caused by these two clubs aided and abetted by Inverness and Partick among others. The vast majority of clubs are keeping quiet and getting on, as best as they can, preparing for next season. The longer this goes on the less sympathy the footballing public will have fof Budge and the famous.

Exactly and I'd add pundits like Tom English and all the other Jambo sympathisers to the aided and abetted list.

[poolman]

One of the Hibs experts on Keekback ,who supposedly has an in at The Rangers posted earlier today that he has a friend who is an ex teammate of Jack Ross who was telling him that Jack Ross told him that Hibs are in a very bad way,meat and drink for the obsessed overby i suppose, Dingles R Us would be a better name for Keekback!!

It's exactly what Jack Ross would do don't you think ?

Tell fans of rival clubs how much s*"% we're in financially

They really are a stupid bunch of cretins

[FilipinoHibs]

It's exactly what Jack Ross would do don't you think ?

Tell fans of rival clubs how much s*"% we're in financially

They really are a stupid bunch of cretins

Yes 10,000 seasons is approximately £4 million in income. We must be in a bad way. Then there is the shirt sales...

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Interesting that they are shafting fellow WWI champions Raith Rovers but don’t have an ounce of remorse. It’s almost like they just use the pointless slaughter of millions to benefit the image of their cretinous little club.

[Since90+2]

Yes 10,000 seasons is approximately £4 million in income. We must be in a bad way. Then there is the shirt sales...

It'll be closer to £3 million. Still good money though.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Interesting that they are shafting fellow WWI champions Raith Rovers but don’t have an ounce of remorse. It’s almost like they just use the pointless slaughter of millions to benefit the image of their cretinous little club.

i particularly dislike the insinuation that their sacrifice was greater than others. They demean they battalion, their club and themselves when they do so

There was a shinty club from up North that was decemated BBC Scotland featured a play that was written about them. hearts were not the only ones impacted. And as we know other football teams were impacted. A big part of a generation of Leithers were wiped out in the Gretna rail disaster. All loss of life in such circumstance is tragic.

[NC1875]

Bill Leckie gets it spot on in his piece in the Sun today.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5777365/craig-gordon-hearts-relegation-row-bill-leckie/

Hopefully the arbitration panel see it the same way. This is the most sense I’ve read from anyone in the media regarding this whole shambles

[theonlywayisup]

Bill Leckie gets it spot on in his piece in the Sun today.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5777365/craig-gordon-hearts-relegation-row-bill-leckie/

Hopefully the arbitration panel see it the same way. This is the most sense I’ve read from anyone in the media regarding this whole shambles

Just posted this on the Legal Challenge thread.

This needed to be copied for all to see. This needs to be circulated to all - a perfect summary of where we are at the moment. Scottish Football is in meltdown all because of one person and her incompetence.




He’s also bang on when he expresses his dismay that Scottish football hasn’t been able to sort itself out despite its problems not meaning a toss compared to what’s going on in the wider world.

Without wishing to pick an argument with one of the game’s good guys, though, I have to say that, if he’s searching for a reason why it’s all gone so pear-shaped, it’s right under his nose; right there in his boyhood club’s boardroom.

Hearts are the ones who finished bottom of the table despite spending top-three money on players.

Hearts are the ones who panicked and demanded those players take pay cuts before the government even had the chance to introduce the furlough scheme.

Hearts backed the wrong horse in the vote on ending the season early, then again on the vote calling for an independent probe into how that decision was reached.

A reconstruction plan that would have saved their bacon fell on its backside, even though their own sugar-mummy Ann Budge chaired the committee who came up with it.

They dragged United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers into their legal fight to have the final tables declared void, a situation that has left Raith fearing they’ll be unable to risk a six-figure legal bill and will simply be crossing their fingers that the decision goes their way.

As if this wasn’t heavy-handed enough, Budge then nicked Robbie Neilson from Tannadice as her new manager — a hefty investment which, along with the deal to bring Gordon in from Celtic, is an almighty boot in the stones for every employee forced into a drop in wages when Budge pleaded poverty.

I know Jambos fans will be sick of reading this, maybe even as sick as I am of writing it, but it has to be put on record that, despite dominating the headlines for pretty much all of these 115 locked-down days, their club have produced not one positive, winning idea.

Good God, even when the hugely-generous James Anderson offered a donation of millions to make sure no clubs went down the pan, all Budge had to do was introduce him to Neil Doncaster and let them shake hands, but even then she managed to turn it into a fight.

Like Rangers chairman Douglas Park before her, she’s read the room wrong time and again. She’s been fighting shadows, punching smoke.

Plus, when she and her lawyers were throwing their weight around by plunging the plans of the three lower league winners into disarray, why didn’t they have the courage to claim that Celtic shouldn’t have been named Premiership champions?

After all, if they’re actually saying relegation shouldn’t have counted, how can the title stand?

Sorry, but there are more holes in Budge’s defence than . . . well, there were in her back four all last season, which really is saying something. And, for the umpteenth time, let me also say without fear of contradiction that, if they’d come off the bottom by winning at Paisley in the last, pivotal match before the shutters came down, we’d never have heard a peep from them.

So, sure, there will be bad blood whatever happens now. But it’s Hearts who spilled it.

Sure, it’ll forever be a crying shame that they, Partick Thistle and Stranraer were condemned to the drop when they still had enough games left to save themselves.

But there are also countless businesses who might never open their doors again, tens of thousands of workers sweating over when they’ll earn a crust again.

All Hearts were asked to do was suck up some rank bad luck and agree to kick a ball around in a different division come August — a division they’d be odds-on favourites to win.

Whatever happens next in this sorry, sordid saga, the fact that they preferred to cause chaos for everyone else around them will stain those famous maroon shirts for a long time to come.