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Steven79
26-02-2020, 09:06 AM
Can Hamilton get a win or 2 before the split? They seem pretty hopeless too and this might be what saves Hearts in terms of automatic relegation. Their pre-split fixtures are:
Rangers (A)
Kilmarnock (H)
Ross County (A)
Hibs (H)
If they can get even one win from those 4 fixtures (hopefully not against us) that should see them above Hearts going into the split and then they will face Hearts at home in a potential relegation decider :brokenyam:
Them winning at Ibrox is a win, win situation...
If Hibs get into Europe, progress in the cup to the semis/final and we see Hearts and Hamilton relegated, is that the best season ever?Nope
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Since452
26-02-2020, 09:15 AM
I hope they draw with Rangers on Saturday. Another fixture to add to the list would be worse than a defeat for them
B.H.F.C
26-02-2020, 09:22 AM
Can Hamilton get a win or 2 before the split? They seem pretty hopeless too and this might be what saves Hearts in terms of automatic relegation. Their pre-split fixtures are:
Rangers (A)
Kilmarnock (H)
Ross County (A)
Hibs (H)
If they can get even one win from those 4 fixtures (hopefully not against us) that should see them above Hearts going into the split and then they will face Hearts at home in a potential relegation decider :brokenyam:
Hamilton also have St Johnstone away.
I don’t think that’s too bad a run of fixtures for them. They will dig a result out somewhere in amongst that lot.
Springbank
26-02-2020, 09:23 AM
I think they’ll be safe. They’ve got a wee bit more quality than the other two IMO.
Two way fight between Hearts and Hamilton for 11th now IMO. Which is ideal as I’d like them both relegated.
I think the best/most composed midfielder out of the bottom three teams is the Saints captain & no16 Foley
Foley's also the best leader of any of the bottom 3, a real leader, unlike Naismith who comes across as more of a gobby wee bully, which is a disaster for morale & totally counter productive when you're already in the shXt as a team.
I reckon the best defender out of the bottom three teams is Gogic of Hamilton
I reckon the most dangerous creative player out of the bottom 3 is Durmis, the Saints winger (matchwinner last night & gave SDG a torrid time at ER)
Boyce is the best predator, but that's not much use if you can't get the ball to him in the opposition's box often enough.
I think Hearts are going down here
Ozyhibby
26-02-2020, 09:41 AM
I think the best/most composed midfielder out of the bottom three teams is the Saints captain & no16 Foley
Foley's also the best leader of any of the bottom 3, a real leader, unlike Naismith who comes across as more of a gobby wee bully, which is a disaster for morale & totally counter productive when you're already in the shXt as a team.
I reckon the best defender out of the bottom three teams is Gogic of Hamilton
I reckon the most dangerous creative player out of the bottom 3 is Durmis, the Saints winger (matchwinner last night & gave SDG a torrid time at ER)
Boyce is the best predator, but that's not much use if you can't get the ball to him in the opposition's box often enough.
I think Hearts are going down here
Hearts midfield and defence is pretty brutal. The midfield is especially light on quality. The defence has some decent players but Stendel is making them look garbage by playing this high line and letting teams turn them.
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JeMeSouviens
26-02-2020, 09:54 AM
Has a team bottom of the league at the start of March ever stayed up? Can't be many if so
Falkirk went in to the 2008/9 split at the bottom, 4 points behind ICT and 6 behind Hamilton, St Mirren and Killie. They got 10 points post split including beating ICT on the last day to catch both them and St Mirren.
JeMeSouviens
26-02-2020, 09:56 AM
Hearts midfield and defence is pretty brutal. The midfield is especially light on quality. The defence has some decent players but Stendel is making them look garbage by playing this high line and letting teams turn them.
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A heavy defeat at ER and they might just have enough cover to bin him and get someone (Locke?) to go for the desperate rescue mission. I think that's their best hope tbh.
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 09:57 AM
Its weird, the further Hearts get adrift from safety the more some Hibs fans seem to think they will survive. I just dont get it. They have won 3 games all season and look absolutely dreadful. They are up against 2 teams who are used to being in this position. I personally think they are doomed. They look every single bit the relegated team.
It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.
You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.
Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.
If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.
Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.
Sudds_1
26-02-2020, 10:01 AM
Hearts midfield and defence is pretty brutal. The midfield is especially light on quality. The defence has some decent players but Stendel is making them look garbage by playing this high line and letting teams turn them.
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Such blasphemy!!! Dont you know he's the new messiah? 😇😇
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 10:01 AM
It’s not in their own hands though is it ? If they win all there games and Hamilton and at Mirren above them do the same minus the hearts game they still finish second bottom.
And the likelihood of them suddenly winning even 5 or 6 games after only winning 3 al year is highly unlikely.
It is in their own hands.
They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.
Barman Stanton
26-02-2020, 10:04 AM
It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.
You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.
Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 1 point behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.
If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.
Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.
I know your feelings, we have discussed this before. You stick up for Hearts all you want. Personally I will enjoy them squirm and point out their failings. As they would be doing to us.
FilipinoHibs
26-02-2020, 10:10 AM
It is in their own hands.
They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.
Of their six remaining games before the split only one is really winnable with some certainty not to say they might pick more points - Ross County at home.
They would have to win 4 out if 5 of their post split fixtures to stand a chance of avoiding the play off with two of those games likely to relegation dog fights. Seems a tall order with them having won only 3 games this season.
G B Young
26-02-2020, 10:15 AM
I know your feelings, we have discussed this before. You stick up for Hearts all you want. Personally I will enjoy them squirm and point out their failings. As they would be doing to us.
I'm not sure I'd see it as sticking up for Hearts. More a case of finding it hard to believe that with all the cash they've had thrown at them that they won't find a way to scrape clear of the drop. Doesn't mean we don't all see them as utterly pathetic for finding themselves in this situation.
Personally I suspect they may just creep ahead of Accies, but as the games count down and the likes of St Mirren and Ross County start to pull away I'm finding it hard to see them do any more than that. Play-off would be my bet at this stage. Hopefully I'm wrong though and straight relegation awaits them.
hibbyfraelibby
26-02-2020, 10:23 AM
I think they’ll be safe. They’ve got a wee bit more quality than the other two IMO.
If they had more quality they wouldn't currently be bottom and three matches adrift of 10th safety.
There was an old sitcom on ITV called "Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width" some of us aging Boomers might remember. Well they have neither the quality nor the width
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 10:24 AM
I know your feelings, we have discussed this before. You stick up for Hearts all you want. Personally I will enjoy them squirm and point out their failings. As they would be doing to us.
:faf:
Bugger off with the stick up for hearts rubbish. Are the bookies sticking up for hearts?
No, if course not. No-one is sticking up for anyone. We're crystal ball gazing.
I choose to have nothing to do with hearts supporters either in person or online so fill your boots if that's your thing.
No-one is stopping you.
Barman Stanton
26-02-2020, 10:25 AM
I'm not sure I'd see it as sticking up for Hearts. More a case of finding it hard to believe that with all the cash they've had thrown at them that they won't find a way to scrape clear of the drop. Doesn't mean we don't all see them as utterly pathetic for finding themselves in this situation.
Personally I suspect they may just creep ahead of Accies, but as the games count down and the likes of St Mirren and Ross County start to pull away I'm finding it hard to see them do any more than that. Play-off would be my bet at this stage. Hopefully I'm wrong though and straight relegation awaits them.
I think people are more looking at the past and the size of the club, and not taking into account how bad they are.
I just think its a bit of a slight on the mentality of Hibs fans that we assume Hearts will be safe and indeed beat us in the game coming up (as some have said). You wouldn't get this from Hearts fans, who always see us as dreadful regardless of the situation. I would like us to have a similar mentality towards them. And I started going in the 80s so I do understand why we think the way we do. But they are bad at the moment, really bad.
Barman Stanton
26-02-2020, 10:26 AM
:faf:
Bugger off with the stick up for hearts rubbish. Are the bookies sticking up for hearts?
No, if course not. No-one is sticking up for anyone. We're crystal ball gazing.
I choose to have nothing to do with hearts supporters either in person or online so fill your boots if that's your thing.
No-one is stopping you.
Iv tried to explain what I mean a little more above. Anyway I will leave it at that. Certainly dont want to argue with fellow Hibs fans.
B.H.F.C
26-02-2020, 10:27 AM
If they had more quality they wouldn't currently be bottom and three matches adrift of 10th safety.
There was an old sitcom on ITV called "Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width" some of us aging Boomers might remember. Well they have neither the quality nor the width
I said St Mirren have more quality than the other two. Not Hearts.
Cataplana
26-02-2020, 10:39 AM
It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.
You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.
Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.
If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.
Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.
I think I'll have some of that.
where'stheslope
26-02-2020, 10:47 AM
It is in their own hands.
They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.
The difference is, both ST Mirren and Hamilton are used to fighting relegation on a near yearly basis!
So it must be worth at least a couple of points over the big team, who are usually winning the league in September!!!!!
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 10:48 AM
Iv tried to explain what I mean a little more above. Anyway I will leave it at that. Certainly dont want to argue with fellow Hibs fans.
:aok:
Maybe I should have said that there's a difference between what I want to happen and what I think is mostly likely.
Since452
26-02-2020, 10:48 AM
Falkirk went in to the 2008/9 split at the bottom, 4 points behind ICT and 6 behind Hamilton, St Mirren and Killie. They got 10 points post split including beating ICT on the last day to catch both them and St Mirren.
Good info! Never knew that
Since452
26-02-2020, 10:49 AM
If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?
hibbyfraelibby
26-02-2020, 10:53 AM
I said St Mirren have more quality than the other two. Not Hearts.
If I've misread you apologies but there are a couple of other pisters who replied who read your pisy the way I did
banchoryhibs
26-02-2020, 11:06 AM
If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?
A very stupid one
Barman Stanton
26-02-2020, 11:14 AM
:aok:
Maybe I should have said that there's a difference between what I want to happen and what I think is mostly likely.
I knew what you meant mate. Saying sticking up for them was not really what I was meaning. Im sure we all want the same thing :cool2:
KingPat4
26-02-2020, 11:15 AM
St Mirren have developed into a decent looking side, far better than Hearts, reckon they'll take at least 4 out of the 6 points.
But I reckon Hamilton will finish bottom, can't see them pulling away with the games they have left.
Hope it's Dundee they face in the play offs. Can you imagine Robbo and ICT sending them down? He would bottle it.
Killiehibbie
26-02-2020, 11:25 AM
It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.
You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.
Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.
If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.
Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.
Skybet being so far out of line from other bookies have created a nice dutch with a 15% profit.
hibbysam
26-02-2020, 11:29 AM
It doesn't matter what we all think. We could all think that they'll sink and never be heard of again, but that might not happen.
You think they're doomed. I think they'll survive.
Also, they're not further adrift at the bottom. They're 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand and exactly the same goal difference.
If people are confident that hearts will fail, you can get 11/2 for them finishing bottom.
Best you'll get for Hamilton is only 8/11.
Where are you getting 11/2?
That would be the worst book in history... 8/11 and 11/2 with presumably bigger the rest 😂
I’m seeing 8/11 accies, 5/2 hearts and 7/2 st mirren.
If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?
What do you get if you cross Marcel from Friends and Bernard Langer?
GlesgaeHibby
26-02-2020, 11:37 AM
St Mirren have developed into a decent looking side, far better than Hearts, reckon they'll take at least 4 out of the 6 points.
But I reckon Hamilton will finish bottom, can't see them pulling away with the games they have left.
Hope it's Dundee they face in the play offs. Can you imagine Robbo and ICT sending them down? He would bottle it.
Dundee with Berra scoring the winner.
Dundee with Berra scoring the winner.
He's on loan so probably not eligible.
hibbie02
26-02-2020, 11:51 AM
St Mirren have developed into a decent looking side, far better than Hearts, reckon they'll take at least 4 out of the 6 points.
But I reckon Hamilton will finish bottom, can't see them pulling away with the games they have left.
Hope it's Dundee they face in the play offs. Can you imagine Robbo and ICT sending them down? He would bottle it.
At Dens Park.... Albert Kidd.... Memories.... only this time they get relegated! :greengrin
leithsansiro
26-02-2020, 11:57 AM
Being honest, and it sounds dirty saying it, but I don’t want Hearts relegated.
In a perverse way, Hibs going down allowed us to sweep out the deadwood and comeback much stronger. I’d much rather that Hearts escaped relegation by the narrowest of margins so that the begin next, and subsequent seasons, constantly struggling in the top flight. Relegation would mean wholesale changes and they might abandon the messiah that is Stendal. I don’t want that, I want them to just be potential relegation fodder, because that’s funnier.
Butcher taking us down was horrid but it allowed a rebirth. Hearts shouldn’t be afforded that opportunity
Ozyhibby
26-02-2020, 12:04 PM
Being honest, and it sounds dirty saying it, but I don’t want Hearts relegated.
In a perverse way, Hibs going down allowed us to sweep out the deadwood and comeback much stronger. I’d much rather that Hearts escaped relegation by the narrowest of margins so that the begin next, and subsequent seasons, constantly struggling in the top flight. Relegation would mean wholesale changes and they might abandon the messiah that is Stendal. I don’t want that, I want them to just be potential relegation fodder, because that’s funnier.
Butcher taking us down was horrid but it allowed a rebirth. Hearts shouldn’t be afforded that opportunity
Took us three years to get ‘much stronger’. And we’re still a mid table team. Relegation will cost them millions and recovery is not guaranteed.
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McSwanky
26-02-2020, 12:06 PM
Where are you getting 11/2?
That would be the worst book in history... 8/11 and 11/2 with presumably bigger the rest 😂
I’m seeing 8/11 accies, 5/2 hearts and 7/2 st mirren.
SkyBet. Although they seem to be quite out of line with the other major bookies... They have Hamilton at 1/3. Fill your boots, folks!
Cataplana
26-02-2020, 12:10 PM
Being honest, and it sounds dirty saying it, but I don’t want Hearts relegated.
In a perverse way, Hibs going down allowed us to sweep out the deadwood and comeback much stronger. I’d much rather that Hearts escaped relegation by the narrowest of margins so that the begin next, and subsequent seasons, constantly struggling in the top flight. Relegation would mean wholesale changes and they might abandon the messiah that is Stendal. I don’t want that, I want them to just be potential relegation fodder, because that’s funnier.
Butcher taking us down was horrid but it allowed a rebirth. Hearts shouldn’t be afforded that opportunity
But they have had one go at it already, and this is the result. What's the chances they would do the same thing again?
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 12:16 PM
Where are you getting 11/2?
That would be the worst book in history... 8/11 and 11/2 with presumably bigger the rest
I’m seeing 8/11 accies, 5/2 hearts and 7/2 st mirren.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/scottish/premiership/scottish-premiership/to-finish-bottom
Hibeewilly
26-02-2020, 12:23 PM
Being honest, and it sounds dirty saying it, but I don’t want Hearts relegated.
In a perverse way, Hibs going down allowed us to sweep out the deadwood and comeback much stronger. I’d much rather that Hearts escaped relegation by the narrowest of margins so that the begin next, and subsequent seasons, constantly struggling in the top flight. Relegation would mean wholesale changes and they might abandon the messiah that is Stendal. I don’t want that, I want them to just be potential relegation fodder, because that’s funnier.
Butcher taking us down was horrid but it allowed a rebirth. Hearts shouldn’t be afforded that opportunity
I agree with you.... I want Hearts to stay up but only after penalties in a play off to make them sweat. I love the derby's plus we can't afford to do without the revenue they generate
Barman Stanton
26-02-2020, 12:25 PM
Being honest, and it sounds dirty saying it, but I don’t want Hearts relegated.
In a perverse way, Hibs going down allowed us to sweep out the deadwood and comeback much stronger. I’d much rather that Hearts escaped relegation by the narrowest of margins so that the begin next, and subsequent seasons, constantly struggling in the top flight. Relegation would mean wholesale changes and they might abandon the messiah that is Stendal. I don’t want that, I want them to just be potential relegation fodder, because that’s funnier.
Butcher taking us down was horrid but it allowed a rebirth. Hearts shouldn’t be afforded that opportunity
It would be a disaster for them. No big games down there next season like there was when we were down. Would also be surprised if everyone kept their monthly direct debits going. Hearts fans seem to hate everything about their club at the moment with the exception of Stendil who plenty of them love for reasons unknown.
Seeing them have a right sweaty season will be enough as long as Hamilton go. However fate might already have them down.
SJNB Hibby
26-02-2020, 12:30 PM
It would be a disaster for them. No big games down there next season like there was when we were down. Would also be surprised if everyone kept their monthly direct debits going. Hearts fans seem to hate everything about their club at the moment with the exception of Stendil who plenty of them love for reasons unknown.
This----United are coming up, and if Dundee make it thru the play-offs, where are the big crowds going to come from?
Dunfermline, Raith and Falkirk will be the 'big' attractions.
They'll likely get out of the Championship OK though
KeithTheHibby
26-02-2020, 12:31 PM
I think they’ll be safe. They’ve got a wee bit more quality than the other two IMO.
Two way fight between Hearts and Hamilton for 11th now IMO. Which is ideal as I’d like them both relegated.
Never really showed though did it when they struggled to a 2-2 draw with an injury hit down to 10 men Hamilton?
BonnieFitbaTeam
26-02-2020, 12:36 PM
"we won’t get relegated. It’s a rut that no one wants to be in, but the only teams who are genuinely better than us are Celtic and Rangers. Everyone one else is literally crap"
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Cataplana
26-02-2020, 12:38 PM
This----United are coming up, and if Dundee make it thru the play-offs, where are the big crowds going to come from?
Dunfermline, Raith and Falkirk will be the 'big' attractions.
They'll likely get out of the Championship OK though
I wonder if relegation will bring further chaos. For starters they will lose whatever decent players they have, other than the youths.
Springbank
26-02-2020, 12:38 PM
I would like to see Hearts turning up at Easter Road on Tuesday coming off the back of a 6-0 or 6-1 humping by Rangers
That would put the cat among the pigeons in the derby build-up...
B.H.F.C
26-02-2020, 12:42 PM
Never really showed though did it when they struggled to a 2-2 draw with an injury hit down to 10 men Hamilton?
I’m talking about St Mirren having more quality. Hence why I said it’s a two way fight between Hearts and Hamilton for 11th.
Our fans didn’t get back onside till we won the cup. Had we not then our crowds would have continued below the 10k mark. Relegation will be a disaster for them as it was for us.
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You're correct that the cup win gave a great boost to our crowds but our support stayed pretty loyal in our 3 years down under. In our 1st year in Championship average crowds were higher than the prior 2 years & we had our highest individual attendance for 20 years. Incredibly also, our lowest league attendance was higher than for many of the years preceding it & was higher than any of our lowest attendances in the 60s, 70s & 80s. That I'm sure has something to do with the current methodology of including season tickets in the attendance figures but regardless our fans pretty much stuck with us. Where relegation really hurts financially is in the dishing out of TV money.
Since452
26-02-2020, 12:47 PM
I don't think their crowds would go down too much to be honest, provided they're winning games. If they toiled in the championship which I doubt they would then that's a different story
Mick O'Rourke
26-02-2020, 12:48 PM
Let them squirm in purgatory for at least 3 seasons
They got very fortunate last time with the 15pt deduction that led to relegation
THey deserved then to meet the same fate as the team formerly known as Rangers
They lived way beyond their means for years going back to Mercer, pie man etc.
Romanov continued that and then some
Time they really paid for their past sins !!
NC1875
26-02-2020, 01:02 PM
It is in their own hands.
They have to play St Mirren twice and Hamilton once. They're only 2 points behind Hamilton with a game in hand.
And St Mirren are 6 ahead with a better goal difference of 9 goals. Hearts would still be 11th if they beat them twice and beat Hamilton and the results were matched elsewhere.
Barman Stanton
26-02-2020, 01:06 PM
I don't think their crowds would go down too much to be honest, provided they're winning games. If they toiled in the championship which I doubt they would then that's a different story
Iv no idea how they would get on in the Championship. I imagine they would want to rip it all up and start again like we did. That may take more than a season to build. And would they keep their saviour Stendil? Who knows, but its certainly pleasing.
I don't think their crowds would go down too much to be honest, provided they're winning games. If they toiled in the championship which I doubt they would then that's a different storyA Hearts fan described their core support recently as "aged die-hards, along with a weird, bigoted bunch of tcheucters". He also admitted to us that most of the younger, potential fans around Edinburgh gravitate to Hibs and their own offspring aren't too enamoured with visits to Tiny.
If they go down they could lose out on a lot of season tickets from those older fans who could just pass on another season down. I don't think they are in good place with their demographic, which is a big change given how loyal they've been.
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CapitalGreen
26-02-2020, 01:22 PM
I would like to see Hearts turning up at Easter Road on Tuesday coming off the back of a 6-0 or 6-1 humping by Rangers
That would put the cat among the pigeons in the derby build-up...
Hopefully suffering some bad injuries or suspensions too.
KingPat4
26-02-2020, 01:31 PM
What are the odds on Budge insisting that Potter does the team talk before Tuesday's game?
hibbyfraelibby
26-02-2020, 01:49 PM
What are the odds on Budge insisting that Potter does the team talk before Tuesday's game?
If der Daniel gets them humped on Saturday and is emptied I fully expect Potter to be in the dugout
allezsauzee
26-02-2020, 01:54 PM
When did they change their name to Basement Boys Hearts? Not quite as catchy as adding Greenock to Morton :tee hee:
Robinho08
26-02-2020, 01:59 PM
I would like to see Hearts turning up at Easter Road on Tuesday coming off the back of a 6-0 or 6-1 humping by Rangers
That would put the cat among the pigeons in the derby build-up...
Remember when Oldco Rangers beat us 7-0, we beat Hearts 2-1 the following week.
Ozyhibby
26-02-2020, 01:59 PM
You're correct that the cup win gave a great boost to our crowds but our support stayed pretty loyal in our 3 years down under. In our 1st year in Championship average crowds were higher than the prior 2 years & we had our highest individual attendance for 20 years. Incredibly also, our lowest league attendance was higher than for many of the years preceding it & was higher than any of our lowest attendances in the 60s, 70s & 80s. That I'm sure has something to do with the current methodology of including season tickets in the attendance figures but regardless our fans pretty much stuck with us. Where relegation really hurts financially is in the dishing out of TV money.
In 2015/2016 as our league form fell off a cliff in the 2nd half of the season, our crowds at Easter road were absolutely terrible. There was no way we could have sustained our budget another year if we had not won the cup. Thankfully we did and crowds grew way beyond expectations but it was touch and go for a while.
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jax67
26-02-2020, 01:59 PM
If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?
What’s the worst anagram you can come up with from
Green CL Alarm?
Cataplana
26-02-2020, 02:06 PM
If Marcel Langer is the answer. What is the question?
Who is the only person on the planet not to be offered the Yams job, before Our Daniel?
What’s the worst anagram you can come up with from
Green CL Alarm?
Carnal Glee, Mr.
allezsauzee
26-02-2020, 02:14 PM
Remember when Oldco Rangers beat us 7-0, we beat Hearts 2-1 the following week.
We had some decent players at the time and Rangers had a really good team. However Hertz are dug5h1te ...i know how they like to shoehorn those numbers in at any opportunity :wink:
Deansy
26-02-2020, 03:04 PM
I suppose, if I was a Hertz fan, I can understand why I would be supportive of Daniel even if that means relegation.
For the past few years, as we all know, the Hertz have been extremely dull to watch. It's only when they played the kids (because they had too) that there's been any enjoyment for them. They need a massive clear-out of the overly physical, anti-football players and bring in players that are able to play Stendel's style of football. To make it work Stendel needs time even if that means a year in the Championship. Actually, the Championship might be a good thing for them as Stendel can build a team that would romp the Championship and get the fans back onside and in large numbers.
Whilst we would love to see them relegated, there's every chance that they will come back a much stronger team. That's what happened to us and it could be the same with them.
For that to happen it would require a brand new collective mind-set from their 'fans' !. With us it was different, we knew things had to change so we accepted it would take time so we were patient and got behind our club. Them ?? - 30+ years of 'Other People's Money' has resulted in a support with ideas & beliefs that are as much removed from reality as is possible ?. Even now you can still see over on 'Throw-back' that they refuse to accept their current status - they just want to get back to boasting of being '3rd best' as quickly as possible so 'Patience' will be in short-supply, if not non-existent, at the PBS - and that's not the best conditions for change !
There's also the added question of how much 'Patience' or 'bottomless pockets' their 'mystery benefactor'(s) will have - could there be a point when he/she/they realise they've thrown away their money ??
Bostonhibby
26-02-2020, 03:13 PM
What’s the worst anagram you can come up with from
Green CL Alarm?Mr ale Clanger
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oldbutdim
26-02-2020, 03:25 PM
You're correct that the cup win gave a great boost to our crowds but our support stayed pretty loyal in our 3 years down under. In our 1st year in Championship average crowds were higher than the prior 2 years & we had our highest individual attendance for 20 years. Incredibly also, our lowest league attendance was higher than for many of the years preceding it & was higher than any of our lowest attendances in the 60s, 70s & 80s. That I'm sure has something to do with the current methodology of including season tickets in the attendance figures but regardless our fans pretty much stuck with us. Where relegation really hurts financially is in the dishing out of TV money.
I'm sure I read stats that disproved that somewhere. Is it definitely the case?
CloudSquall
26-02-2020, 03:27 PM
Does anyone think for a second if the roles were reversed you'd have people on umpteenpointsback greetin about how we were going to stay up or how a year in the Championship was going to somehow miraculously turn us into Champions League winners?
I honestly thought the Lennon reign had seen an end to this lack of testosterone mentality but it appears not.
jax67
26-02-2020, 04:09 PM
Mr ale Clanger
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Camell ranger
RyeSloan
26-02-2020, 04:15 PM
Does anyone think for a second if the roles were reversed you'd have people on umpteenpointsback greetin about how we were going to stay up or how a year in the Championship was going to somehow miraculously turn us into Champions League winners?
I honestly thought the Lennon reign had seen an end to this lack of testosterone mentality but it appears not.
Don’t think I’ve read a single post that has claimed what you have above.
No one appears to be ‘greetin’ about anything either. A few have suggested that their demotion is far from sealed...that is of course irrefutable fact. A lot have suggested that they are crap and look a stick on for bottom two at best..that is not irrefutable yet but hopefully will be soon.
There has been a couple of sporadic suggestions that relegation might give them space to do the clear oot they clearly need. Not a view shared by the vast majority and no one has suggested they would come back a CL winners!
Apart from that though you can crack on with your own greetin’ [emoji2957]
Viva_Palmeiras
26-02-2020, 04:16 PM
Did someone say Marcel?
23043
died at the age of 84 - apparently no one heard his cries for help ;)
I'm sure I read stats that disproved that somewhere. Is it definitely the case?
Yes, 9,909 in 11/12, 10,489 in 12/13 & 11,028 in 13/14.
Hibbyradge
26-02-2020, 10:42 PM
Don’t think I’ve read a single post that has claimed what you have above.
No one appears to be ‘greetin’ about anything either. A few have suggested that their demotion is far from sealed...that is of course irrefutable fact. A lot have suggested that they are crap and look a stick on for bottom two at best..that is not irrefutable yet but hopefully will be soon.
There has been a couple of sporadic suggestions that relegation might give them space to do the clear oot they clearly need. Not a view shared by the vast majority and no one has suggested they would come back a CL winners!
Apart from that though you can crack on with your own greetin’ [emoji2957]
Well put, sir.
Cataplana
27-02-2020, 02:05 PM
The Fans Know Best (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/chaos-for-alan-pardew-at-ado-den-haag-hooligans-hijack-his-training-session-and-use-a-flipboard-to-try-to-change-his-tactics-in-front-of-stunned-players-after-four-games-without-a-win-and-his-team-stuck-in-the-relegation-zone/ar-BB10sXwJ?ocid=spartanntp)
FOH have just released their blueprint for team selection in the Championship
Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 02:47 PM
Derby tickets for their end have now gone on general sale to their fans. No loyalty points needed. Could be the first Derby in a while not to have a sold out away end.
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Hibeesmad
27-02-2020, 02:51 PM
Derby tickets for their end have now gone on general sale to their fans. No loyalty points needed. Could be the first Derby in a while not to have a sold out away end.
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If the fans are bottling it, imagine how the players feel.
The 90+2
27-02-2020, 02:53 PM
Yes, 9,909 in 11/12, 10,489 in 12/13 & 11,028 in 13/14.
They where all premiership years. We went down in 13/14.
1st season down was under 11k.
Sean1875
27-02-2020, 02:53 PM
Derby tickets for their end have now gone on general sale to their fans. No loyalty points needed. Could be the first Derby in a while not to have a sold out away end.
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Think they failed to sell out their allocation for the ER derby at end of last season. Remember there being a fairly chunky gap of seats up the back of the stand.
GreenCastle
27-02-2020, 02:54 PM
Derby tickets for their end have now gone on general sale to their fans. No loyalty points needed. Could be the first Derby in a while not to have a sold out away end.
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I’m not sure if they have sold out last few. Definitely gaps of seats in upper stand.
KingPat4
27-02-2020, 03:58 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
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Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 04:01 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?Yes, if they're not going bust again then a relegation at the end of another very high spending season seems like a perfectly acceptable alternative .
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Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 04:05 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI hope your man is responsible for stuff like making sure pens have ink in them, checking the density of fluff on the office carpet and ensuring all the paper clips are the right type rather than anything requiring a modicum of business knowledge.
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Sudds_1
27-02-2020, 04:08 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
Yes....put them where they belong. We have higher objectives to aim for....
Jack Hackett
27-02-2020, 04:34 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
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I've been building a mental picture of this office jambo of yours Aldo. Is this him?
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The 90+2
27-02-2020, 04:37 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
Too ****in right I want them doon. I’ll give up one have at home against them next year easily.
HibbyAndy
27-02-2020, 04:42 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
I 100% want them relegated
Horribly grubby little club that has cheated and stole and robbed from pretty much everyone and anyone having had no shame or shown any remorse
Fingers crossed they go down !
I hope your man is responsible for stuff like making sure pens have ink in them, checking the density of fluff on the office carpet and ensuring all the paper clips are the right type rather than anything requiring a modicum of business knowledge.
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Tbh he’s decent at his job just doesn’t have a clue when he spouts about football!
I've been building a mental picture of this office jambo of yours Aldo. Is this him?
23047
Ha like that. Think I’ll print it off and stick it on his computer.
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Hibby Kay-Yay
27-02-2020, 04:49 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
Yes, down with them. We do not rely on their away support and with the ambition of the club now set, hopefully we can start to pull even further away from them by the time they come back up.
ancient hibee
27-02-2020, 04:52 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
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This guy seems to be several sandwiches short of a picnic.I would be very careful particularly if he uses a very big knife to sharpen his pencil.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 04:55 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
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Ron sounds like the worst property developer in history, spending millions on improvements to buildings he wants to knock down.[emoji23]
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Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?Couldn't care that much but will laugh quite hard if they go down. As to the derbies and who would replace them, that's just tough. I'm sure they will be back in the top flight in a season or five.
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hibbyfraelibby
27-02-2020, 05:09 PM
Think back to April 1945. In the Fuerher Bunker old Adolf was moving around imaginary divisions, directing counter attacks in his drive for a final victory as the Russians closed the noose around Berlin and his generals and troops were all heading west to surrender to the Brits Canadians and Yanks.
Roll forward almost 75 years and another German with bunker mentalty is spouting the equivalent sporting delusion
"Daniel Stendel believes Hearts can beat Rangers for a second time in four weeks, boost their league survival hopes and win the Scottish Cup."
For the BBC today.
Since452
27-02-2020, 05:14 PM
Think back to April 1945. In the Fuerher Bunker old Adolf was moving around imaginary divisions, directing counter attacks in his drive for a final victory as the Russians closed the noose around Berlin and his generals and troops were all heading west to surrender to the Brits Canadians and Yanks.
Roll forward almost 75 years and another German with bunker mentalty is spouting the equivalent sporting delusion
"Daniel Stendel believes Hearts can beat Rangers for a second time in four weeks, boost their league survival hopes and win the Scottish Cup."
For the BBC today.
There's more chance of Stendel escaping to Argentina than Hearts surviving and winning the cup
This guy seems to be several sandwiches short of a picnic.I would be very careful particularly if he uses a very big knife to sharpen his pencil.
[emoji23] He’s only allowed a crayon and it’s not allowed to be sharpened.
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Ron sounds like the worst property developer in history, spending millions on improvements to buildings he wants to knock down.[emoji23]
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I just listen to him spout his pish and then ask an obvious question..... just like you’ve mentioned Ozy. It’s all part of his bigger plan ‘apparently’ [emoji848]
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Since452
27-02-2020, 05:35 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
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My scarf twirling mate still thinks Ron has got no cash and is taking us for mugs. Apparently Ron has us over a barrel because we're now due him millions for the stadium and Training Center.
Mental.
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'm guessing this guy had a rather unhealthy relationship with the Scotsman's comments section not too long ago. What a total trumpet. In fact I suggest taking in a small plastic trumpet and tooting it in his face whenever he mentions Hins. My pet Jambos at work are way better trained than him.
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04Sauzee
27-02-2020, 05:41 PM
Jambo at my work said today that Hearts and Hibs are to big for the championship and we should increase the league next season to include Dundee Utd, Dundee, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Raith Rovers and Partick Thistle 🤪🤪🤪
Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 05:47 PM
Jambo at my work said today that Hearts and Hibs are to big for the championship and we should increase the league next season to include Dundee Utd, Dundee, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Raith Rovers and Partick Thistle [emoji2957][emoji2957][emoji2957]
Hearts and Hibs are the biggest opponents of increasing the size of the league.
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My scarf twirling mate still thinks Ron has got no cash and is taking us for mugs. Apparently Ron has us over a barrel because we're now due him millions for the stadium and Training Center.
Mental.
They can only but dream. When things are done correctly and legit they see it as being wrong. Years of financial doping down Tiny way has them thinking like this.
I’ll let them think what they want and we will go about our business. The ones I know still reckon their stadium and new mega stand is the best in the league for facilities etc.
I did say they had the best restricted views!
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Bbc Scotland will probably want Hearts down too. So they can star in Friday night championship football for a few years.
Jambo at my work said today that Hearts and Hibs are to big for the championship and we should increase the league next season to include Dundee Utd, Dundee, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Raith Rovers and Partick Thistle [emoji2957][emoji2957][emoji2957]
Just like them calling St Johnstone chests fir admitting to spending too much!
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Deansy
27-02-2020, 06:02 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
If your neighbours - who'd lied, cheated and swindled for 30+ years, whilst all the time, had looked down on you and everyone else as if you were something they'd just trodden on - ended-up being forced to go straight which resulted in them getting their house repossessed wouldn't you be just a tad happy ??
Kojock
27-02-2020, 06:04 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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I about spat my coffee out.
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Do you work with folk with special needs ??
Kojock
27-02-2020, 06:18 PM
Yes, down with them. We do not rely on their away support and with the ambition of the club now set, hopefully we can start to pull even further away from them by the time they come back up.
Unfortunately cash is king. Two home games against them 7000 tickets sold at an average of £20 per ticket generates £140,000. Add in TV money sold out hospitality etc we are probably talking in excess of £200,000. Can we afford to lose that amount ?? We’ve got a big screen to pay for 😂
hibbyfraelibby
27-02-2020, 06:23 PM
The chat from the office hearts fan today was brilliant. Now his take on this Hibs News is Ron is going to lure us all into a false sense of security then sell us off to a company to build flats and house. We are in masses of debt and last night reeked of desperation to cover all this up!
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Would his name be Rolland by any chance?
Ozyhibby
27-02-2020, 06:24 PM
Unfortunately cash is king. Two home games against them 7000 tickets sold at an average of £20 per ticket generates £140,000. Add in TV money sold out hospitality etc we are probably talking in excess of £200,000. Can we afford to lose that amount ?? We’ve got a big screen to pay for [emoji23]
Increased chance of winning more prize money next season and also increased chance of Euro qualification. Also a relegation could hurt Hearts financially for years which would help Hibs for years.
Abso-*******-lutely I want them to go down.
Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 06:32 PM
Do you work with folk with special needs ??I've just worked out that Aldo is a zookeeper and works full time in the penguin house.
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Do you work with folk with special needs ??
No!
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I've just worked out that Aldo is a zookeeper and works full time in the penguin house.
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Now that is out of order btw......... and totally insulating and patronising towards penguins! [emoji3]
The guy just doesn’t get that his team are utter dug ***** and their stadium is a mess and everything about them is just well ****ED
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KingPat4
27-02-2020, 06:39 PM
With all the money that has been poured into that club, either by legal or illegal means, it is incredible that so many millions have been pissed up against the wall.
And yet they will tell you it was worth it!
And now, with fans digging deep and anonymous benefactor's, not to mention Budge's expertise, they can't even complete a new stand properly, never mind the **** state of the team!
Thing is, nobody outside of our fine city really cares.
You just couldn't make it up.
Would his name be Rolland by any chance?
Nope it’s Kev the Jambo.... he hates it and wants to be called Kevin but since he’s said that I call him Kev the Jambo.
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Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 06:48 PM
Now that is out of order btw......... and totally insulating and patronising towards penguins! [emoji3]
The guy just doesn’t get that his team are utter dug ***** and their stadium is a mess and everything about them is just well ****ED
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSo you're trying to convince me he is smarter and more independent thinking than a penguin?
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Hibbyradge
27-02-2020, 06:52 PM
Tbh he’s decent at his job just doesn’t have a clue when he spouts about football!
Ha like that. Think I’ll print it off and stick it on his computer.
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You should ask someone to Photoshop a hearts shirt into him.
So you're trying to convince me he is smarter and more independent thinking than a penguin?
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Now I didn’t say that!!!
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You should ask someone to Photoshop a hearts shirt into him.
Might try it myself. He won’t like it but it’ll be very funny!
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Hibbyradge
27-02-2020, 06:57 PM
Just like them calling St Johnstone chests fir admitting to spending too much!
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That's an interesting insult, tbf.
Hibbyradge
27-02-2020, 07:00 PM
Unfortunately cash is king. Two home games against them 7000 tickets sold at an average of £20 per ticket generates £140,000. Add in TV money sold out hospitality etc we are probably talking in excess of £200,000. Can we afford to lose that amount ?? We’ve got a big screen to pay for 😂
It might only be one home game against them next season.
tamig
27-02-2020, 07:09 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
I’d be happy to miss out on three or four derbies at the expense of these scheisters being relegated. Bring it on.
cocteautwin
27-02-2020, 07:12 PM
Have to ask this question. Seriously.
Do we all really want Hearts relegated?
The pro's are obvious, but on the other hand the club would be losing revenue and the fans would lose the derby's.
Dundee United are practically promoted and bring more away fans than half the other clubs and Dundee slightly less. ICT? No thanks.
Thoughts?
Yes. Want them to be the club that spent £30m, got relegated, and recorded it all for a BBC show. Oh the banter.
Lendo
27-02-2020, 07:23 PM
Yes. Want them to be the club that spent £30m, got relegated, and recorded it all for a BBC show. Oh the banter.
I’m praying that we get to see Craig Levein showing Daniel Stendel around Riccarton on his first day.
Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 07:26 PM
I’m praying that we get to see Craig Levein showing Daniel Stendel around Riccarton on his first day.Even better if we get to see Desperate Dan showing Levein round after Budge finally sacks him / makes him another part time director and brings back her favourite football expert to save their season[emoji16]
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Onceinawhile
27-02-2020, 07:37 PM
Nope it’s Kev the Jambo.... he hates it and wants to be called Kevin but since he’s said that I call him Kev the Jambo.
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Nothing worse than someone who wants to be called Kevin getting called kev. Drives me mad.
Nothing worse than someone who wants to be called Kevin getting called kev. Drives me mad.
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hibbyfraelibby
27-02-2020, 08:09 PM
Nothing worse than someone who wants to be called Kevin getting called kev. Drives me mad.
You ok Kev?
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I about spat my coffee out.
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Did he finish off with 22 in a row and 5-1?
Next time you see him please tell him Hearts fans are the last people who should be listened to when it comes to judging who is and who isn't a dodgy owner.
You could also ask why is it that as soon as the £2.5m was repaid, did FOH and Budge bring about changes making it easier to do a u-turn on the 5 year fan ownership plan, which was the concept that got them ploughing their money into the club and for what in return? Relegation? :faf:
By making those changes does he think it appears Budge maybe wants to sell up, which at the moment is to someone unknown and therefore probably more likely to do exactly what he is saying Ron is doing?
You could ask him, when the club does get sold how much of his money does he get back? Is it £1.50 for every £1 put in, will he double his money or more? Or will he get fe*k all as it was all donations to make the club a nice sellable asset? Of course he'd have known from the outset that would be the outcome so was happy to contribute?
If it is the last option, maybe ask him how the money from the sale will get divvied up? Does some go to Budge and the rest go to FOH to spend on the next Uche, Vanecek and Malaury Martin and generally to protect the value of the new owner's asset?
If he doesn't know the answers just say "What! No wonder you're clueless about Ron Gordon, you don't even know what's going on at your own club and you base all your judgements on no information and guesswork. Ah well, hope you didn't donate too much."
Disclaimer: The above are intended as questions and not as statements of facts.
Did he finish off with 22 in a row and 5-1?
Next time you see him please tell him Hearts fans are the last people who should be listened to when it comes to judging who is and who isn't a dodgy owner.
You could also ask why is it that as soon as the £2.5m was repaid, did FOH and Budge bring about changes making it easier to do a u-turn on the 5 year fan ownership plan, which was the concept that got them ploughing their money into the club and for what in return? Relegation? :faf:
By making those changes does he think it appears Budge maybe wants to sell up, which at the moment is to someone unknown and therefore probably more likely to do exactly what he is saying Ron is doing?
You could ask him, when the club does get sold how much of his money does he get back? Is it £1.50 for every £1 put in, will he double his money or more? Or will he get fe*k all as it was all donations to make the club a nice sellable asset? Of course he'd have known from the outset that be the outcome so was happy to contribute?
If it is the last option, maybe ask him how the money from the sale will get divvied up? Does some go to Budge and the rest go to FOH to spend on the next Uche, Vanecek and Malaury Martin and generally to protect the value of the new owner's asset?
If he doesn't know the answers just say "What! No wonder you're clueless about Ron Gordon, you don't even know what's going on at your own club and you base all your judgements on no information and guesswork. Ah well, hope you didn't donate too much."
Disclaimer: The above are intended as questions and not as statements of facts.
We have discussed some of the points above a few times but the rattle gets thrown quite easily and on occasion (usually every other day) I get the 1-5 blankie. He is totally blinkered when it comes to them and believes pretty much everything that Budge spouts in her statements.
You honestly couldn’t make it up and he just doesn’t want to hear anything other than praise for everything they are doing.
I’m actually laughing now at his response tomorrow and I haven’t even started chatting!
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jacomo
27-02-2020, 08:32 PM
Yes. Want them to be the club that spent £30m, got relegated, and recorded it all for a BBC show. Oh the banter.
It should certainly make them more Famous.
A Big, Magnificent laughing stock.
TrinityHibs
27-02-2020, 09:04 PM
Unfortunately cash is king. Two home games against them 7000 tickets sold at an average of £20 per ticket generates £140,000. Add in TV money sold out hospitality etc we are probably talking in excess of £200,000. Can we afford to lose that amount ?? We’ve got a big screen to pay for 😂
Surely somebody from Dundee United would turn up to help with the shortfall. If they are bringing nobody then you might have a point.
Groathillgrump
27-02-2020, 09:04 PM
It should certainly make them more Famous.
A Big, Magnificent laughing stock.
Like this? :greengrin
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linlithgowhibbie
27-02-2020, 09:09 PM
Nothing worse than someone who wants to be called Kevin getting called kev. Drives me mad.
KEV KEV KEV KEV KEV KEV:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greeng rin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greeng rin
Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 09:11 PM
Nothing worse than someone who wants to be called Kevin getting called kev. Drives me mad.I get called both but I don't really see the problem to be honest.
Mind you it could be because my name's Dave[emoji6]
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cabbageandribs1875
27-02-2020, 09:17 PM
I get called both but I don't really see the problem to be honest.
Mind you it could be because my name's Dave[emoji6]
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but it's really Rodney
1875godsgift
27-02-2020, 09:43 PM
You should ask someone to Photoshop a hearts shirt into him.
Ouch. Wouldn't fancy that much, myself.
Which orifice, just out of interest?
Bostonhibby
27-02-2020, 09:44 PM
but it's really Rodney[emoji23]
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Hibbyradge
27-02-2020, 09:46 PM
Ouch. Wouldn't fancy that much, myself.
Which orifice, just out of interest?
All?
1875godsgift
27-02-2020, 09:53 PM
All?
Good shout! It would keep him quiet, if nothing else.... :jamboclow
CloudSquall
27-02-2020, 10:04 PM
If a Christophe Berra header sent them down in a play off with McPake running on to the pitch at Tynecastle to celebrate I'd make the documentary Pay Per View.
If a Christophe Berra header sent them down in a play off with McPake running on to the pitch at Tynecastle to celebrate I'd make the documentary Pay Per View.
He's on loan so probably won't be eligible. We'll just have to be satisfied with the damage his owns goals have done this season.
CloudSquall
27-02-2020, 10:20 PM
He's on loan so probably won't be eligible. We'll just have to be satisfied with the damage his owns goals have done this season.
After a quick skim of Wiki, Jordan Forster would be the most suitable replacement for the relegation goal :agree:
Danderhall Hibs
27-02-2020, 11:01 PM
After a quick skim of Wiki, Jordan Forster would be the most suitable replacement for the relegation goal :agree:
He’s due one after the one that would’ve relegated them (and saved us?) was wrongly chopped off for offside.
Ideally he’ll be offside this time and the linesman misses it.
majorhibs
28-02-2020, 02:02 AM
If your neighbours - who'd lied, cheated and swindled for 30+ years, whilst all the time, had looked down on you and everyone else as if you were something they'd just trodden on - ended-up being forced to go straight which resulted in them getting their house repossessed wouldn't you be just a tad happy ??
Dinnae think your in their clique so ye’ll likely get ignored, but I agree wi ye!
cocteautwin
28-02-2020, 02:12 AM
I’m praying that we get to see Craig Levein showing Daniel Stendel around Riccarton on his first day.
If it happens I'll be sitting in front of my telly one hand in the air twirling my green and white scarf, one hand necking my eighth can and my wife looking at me like I was a mental case.
Since452
28-02-2020, 05:25 AM
If a Christophe Berra header sent them down in a play off with McPake running on to the pitch at Tynecastle to celebrate I'd make the documentary Pay Per View.
If Dundee beat them in a playoff I'd want the "we hate Dundee" line in our song removed. Should have been removed after 86 to be fair.
Phil MaGlass
28-02-2020, 05:36 AM
If Dundee beat them in a playoff I'd want the "we hate Dundee" line in our song removed. Should have been removed after 86 to be fair.
I second that, gave me one of the most memorable weekends in fitba.:thumbsup:
Springbank
28-02-2020, 06:25 AM
After a quick skim of Wiki, Jordan Forster would be the most suitable replacement for the relegation goal :agree:
My preference is keatings and wee fat robbo relegating hearts with Keats scoring the winner.
Ozyhibby
28-02-2020, 06:45 AM
My preference is keatings and wee fat robbo relegating hearts with Keats scoring the winner.
Mines is for them to already be relegated as they finished bottom.
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jacomo
28-02-2020, 06:47 AM
Like this? :greengrin
23050
Ah I remember this beauty. Peak Romanov.
Now there was a guy who bought a club, had bad intentions, and crippled them with debt.
None of the Jambos saw it coming.
They also think Budge has done a great job with their stadium.
They are hardly qualified to talk about other owners.
If Dundee beat them in a playoff I'd want the "we hate Dundee" line in our song removed. Should have been removed after 86 to be fair.
Well weve never really hated Dundee. What other team fits the song though?
Bostonhibby
28-02-2020, 07:28 AM
Well weve never really hated Dundee. What other team fits the song though?We should adapt it to the times and say we like, or sometimes quite like Dundee.
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We should adapt it to the times and say we like, or sometimes quite like Dundee.
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We are Hibernian FC
We hate Jam tarts but we can tolerate Dundee.
We are Hibernian FC
We hate jam tarts and so do Alberts Dundee.
Bostonhibby
28-02-2020, 07:33 AM
We are Hibernian FC
We hate Jam tarts but we can tolerate Dundee.[emoji106]
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Bostonhibby
28-02-2020, 07:40 AM
We are Hibernian FC
We hate jam tarts and so do Alberts Dundee.Could we "hate" Banks O Dee?
No axe to grind with them really but it fits and I always think they sound more like a folk song title than a name for a football team[emoji6].
Good badge though.
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Could we "hate" Banks O Dee?
No axe to grind with them really but it fits and I always think they sound more like a folk song title than a name for a football team[emoji6].
Good badge though.
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We could also change it to Livi. Not got a problem with Livi either though apart from the name if their ground.
Peevemor
28-02-2020, 07:50 AM
I could easily hate iced tea - basically because it's not coffee or beer.
Or even Ice T - rapper turned unconvincing TV detective?
Kojock
28-02-2020, 07:50 AM
Surely somebody from Dundee United would turn up to help with the shortfall. If they are bringing nobody then you might have a point.
They will but it will not make up for the shortfall. Even if Utd brought 1500 fans over two games you will have 3000 tickets at normal pricing. Hospitality will be nowhere near sold out and it would be highly unlikely the game would be on tv so no extra income there. Plus the home end would not sell out.
Two sold out matches and hospitality at cat A prices. Both games live on TV. Increase revenue from advertising etc. You do the maths.
PatHead
28-02-2020, 07:57 AM
They will but it will not make up for the shortfall. Even if Utd brought 1500 fans over two games you will have 3000 tickets at normal pricing. Hospitality will be nowhere near sold out and it would be highly unlikely the game would be on tv so no extra income there. Plus the home end would not sell out.
Two sold out matches and hospitality at cat A prices. Both games live on TV. Increase revenue from advertising etc. You do the maths.
The position of being Edinburgh's Premier club could mean that we get more hospitality for other games which might have gone to them. That would make up the shortfall.
Let them get relegated for 10 years for all I care. By the time they get back we could be out of sight.
Brooster
28-02-2020, 07:59 AM
They will but it will not make up for the shortfall. Even if Utd brought 1500 fans over two games you will have 3000 tickets at normal pricing. Hospitality will be nowhere near sold out and it would be highly unlikely the game would be on tv so no extra income there. Plus the home end would not sell out.
Two sold out matches and hospitality at cat A prices. Both games live on TV. Increase revenue from advertising etc. You do the maths.
Hospitality is sold out most games, certainly for Saturday 3pm games. And do we get extra money for games being on TV? I thought it was one big pot but maybe I'm wrong. We will maybe lose a couple of thousand at the gate if they go down but I can live with that. They certainly wouldn't be wanting us to stay up if the boot was on the other foot. Get them down.
Bostonhibby
28-02-2020, 08:00 AM
I could easily hate iced tea - basically because it's not coffee or beer.
Or even Ice T - rapper turned unconvincing TV detective?Good shout.
It brought to mind Mr T, the unlikely crimefighter and all round good guy who always looked like he was dressed for a particularly garish cocktail party rather than battling to save us all from dubious villains.
He is built like the sort of guy Hearts are usually fooled into believing is a famous striker so it might work.
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Barney McGrew
28-02-2020, 08:02 AM
And do we get extra money for games being on TV? I thought it was one big pot but maybe I'm wrong
Nooe, you’re spot on. We don’t get any more money from league games being shown live, we just get the central payment.
PatHead
28-02-2020, 08:03 AM
Hospitality is sold out most games, certainly for Saturday 3pm games. And do we get extra money for games being on TV? I thought it was one big pot but maybe I'm wrong. We will maybe lose a couple of thousand at the gate if they go down but I can live with that. They certainly wouldn't be wanting us to stay up if the boot was on the other foot. Get them down.
Just dawned on me that we would lose a cat a game, even Hibs supporters pay more for that, so could lose a bit of revenue there. Still say stuff them. Hope they get relegated.
oneone73
28-02-2020, 08:04 AM
They will but it will not make up for the shortfall. Even if Utd brought 1500 fans over two games you will have 3000 tickets at normal pricing. Hospitality will be nowhere near sold out and it would be highly unlikely the game would be on tv so no extra income there. Plus the home end would not sell out.
Two sold out matches and hospitality at cat A prices. Both games live on TV. Increase revenue from advertising etc. You do the maths.
We don't get extra cash for being on TV. It's shared out amongst the clubs.
Since452
28-02-2020, 08:09 AM
Well weve never really hated Dundee. What other team fits the song though?
Airdrieee maybe? Or now we're going up in the world under Ron how about PSG?
Kojock
28-02-2020, 08:14 AM
Just dawned on me that we would lose a cat a game, even Hibs supporters pay more for that, so could lose a bit of revenue there. Still say stuff them. Hope they get relegated.
Can I just make it clear that I want Hear7s s relegated and to spend at least 5 years struggling to get promoted.
I was merely looking at it from a financial perspective. I know which the board would choose.
Kojock
28-02-2020, 08:15 AM
We don't get extra cash for being on TV. It's shared out amongst the clubs.
I was thinking more about revenue from trackside advertising.
hibsbollah
28-02-2020, 08:17 AM
It would be funny if they went down. And thered be plenty of enjoyment to be had in the pub and in the playground. But do I really want them to go down with the benefit of cold logic? Probably not.
Since452
28-02-2020, 08:21 AM
Can I just make it clear that I want Hear7s s relegated and to spend at least 5 years struggling to get promoted.
I was merely looking at it from a financial perspective. I know which the board would choose.
Relegated and spend the next 30 years down there, totally depleting their fan base so they're on a par with Edinburgh City but regularly draw them in cup competitions.
I've thought about it too much.
Hibs4185
28-02-2020, 09:29 AM
Relegated and spend the next 30 years down there, totally depleting their fan base so they're on a par with Edinburgh City but regularly draw them in cup competitions.
I've thought about it too much.
Couldn’t agree more. I wish Ron had said at the AGM “in order to reach our 17000 season ticket aim and cement our position as Edinburgh’s premier club, we are exploring a short team loan of half our first team to Hamilton FC”
PatHead
28-02-2020, 09:29 AM
Relegated and spend the next 30 years down there, totally depleting their fan base so they're on a par with Edinburgh City but regularly draw them in cup competitions.
I've thought about it too much.
I think dreamt rather than thought. 😁
Onceinawhile
28-02-2020, 09:38 AM
I could easily hate iced tea - basically because it's not coffee or beer.
Or even Ice T - rapper turned unconvincing TV detective?
But I like Ice-T:confused:
Peevemor
28-02-2020, 09:46 AM
But I like Ice-T:confused:
But it fits!
TrinityHibs
28-02-2020, 09:47 AM
Can I just make it clear that I want Hear7s s relegated and to spend at least 5 years struggling to get promoted.
I was merely looking at it from a financial perspective. I know which the board would choose.
We all accept we will lose income because of their incompetence. The one bright light is for every Cat A game we lost they would be losing 3. Without considering any other factors they will be down 3 times as much as us. The reality is it would be much, much more. But they would have their Daniel to dig them out of the hole that he dug in the first place.
jacomo
28-02-2020, 09:52 AM
Just dawned on me that we would lose a cat a game, even Hibs supporters pay more for that, so could lose a bit of revenue there. Still say stuff them. Hope they get relegated.
We are likely to lose a cat A game this season as well because the selfish Jambos have marooned themselves to the foot of the table.
Any apologies from them though? Nah.
JohnMcM
28-02-2020, 10:31 AM
We are Hibernian FC
We hate jam tarts and so do Alberts Dundee.
We are Hibernian FC
We hate jam tarts and we love Ron G.
We are Hibernian FC
We hate jam tarts and we love Ron G.
We hate jam tarts but we love our TV.
greenginger
28-02-2020, 11:29 AM
We are Hibernian FC
We hate jam tarts and we love Ron G.
or,
We are Hibernian F C,
We hate jam tarts and we hate Queen B.
but we dinny really hate her, she’s just comedy gold. :greengrin
JeMeSouviens
28-02-2020, 11:41 AM
We are Hibernian FC
we hate jam tarts but we love Danny
cos you might think
that he is just a clown
but he's the man
to take the jambos down
Bostonhibby
28-02-2020, 11:46 AM
or,
We are Hibernian F C,
We hate jam tarts and we hate Queen B.
but we dinny really hate her, she’s just comedy gold. :greengrinLeave mrs doctor Budge alone, she's doing fine. I'm getting used to her, even if she is getting a bit careless with money.
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mcohibs
28-02-2020, 11:48 AM
Are there genuinely Hibs fans who don't want Hearts to be relegated? :confused:
Gloucester Hibs
28-02-2020, 11:51 AM
Are there genuinely Hibs fans who do want Hearts to be relegated? :confused:
Oh I 100% DO want Hearts to be relegated! 😁😉
mcohibs
28-02-2020, 11:51 AM
Oh I 100% DO want Hearts to be relegated! 😁😉
Woops :greengrin
sean04
28-02-2020, 11:57 AM
Hearts would be in a mess if they go down. A lot of players on big money
Seveno
28-02-2020, 12:01 PM
Hearts would be in a mess if they go down. A lot of players on big money
I would assume that there would normally be a Relegation Clause in all player contracts that allows the club to terminate the contract or reduce compensation. I would also assume that Hearts/ Dr Mrs Budge will be too incompetent to have inserted such a clause.
jacomo
28-02-2020, 12:08 PM
I would assume that there would normally be a Relegation Clause in all player contracts that allows the club to terminate the contract or reduce compensation. I would also assume that Hearts/ Dr Mrs Budge will be too incompetent to have inserted such a clause.
The seething businesswoman is also working out how to squeeze not one but two big screens into Tiny castle. She simply cannot be upstaged by Ron.
Current plan is to lash them to the pylons but they stick out too much and create yet more restricted view seats.
The dim one might have belatedly realised that self-designing a new main stand that was tethered to the other decrepit stands might have been a bad idea...
CockneyRebel
28-02-2020, 12:13 PM
Are there genuinely Hibs fans who don't want Hearts to be relegated? :confused:
4 posters on here said they would rather see them stay up. So not too many.
Steven79
28-02-2020, 12:18 PM
We are likely to lose a cat A game this season as well because the selfish Jambos have marooned themselves to the foot of the table.
Any apologies from them though? Nah.
Yeah but it's away from home so they lose a fair amount of cash this season...
PatHead
28-02-2020, 12:19 PM
4 posters on here said they would rather see them stay up. So not too many.
4 too many.
I want them to go down, in fact ive done a relegation dance for them so they will go down. Whatever happens its been fun watching them squirm at the pit.
KingPat4
28-02-2020, 12:24 PM
I just want us to win - preferably bigly - on Tuesday night.
Then I'll think a bit more deeply about it. My heart says yes, my head is a bit concerned about lost revenue.
Deansy
28-02-2020, 03:04 PM
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Monts
28-02-2020, 03:06 PM
:singing: We are Hibernian FC
We hate those ****s at HMFC...
PeeKay
28-02-2020, 04:54 PM
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:thumbsup:
O'Rourke3
28-02-2020, 07:38 PM
They will but it will not make up for the shortfall. Even if Utd brought 1500 fans over two games you will have 3000 tickets at normal pricing. Hospitality will be nowhere near sold out and it would be highly unlikely the game would be on tv so no extra income there. Plus the home end would not sell out.
Two sold out matches and hospitality at cat A prices. Both games live on TV. Increase revenue from advertising etc. You do the maths.Given the points we generallly drop to Hearts, then a higher league place makes a a difference
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HUTCHYHIBBY
28-02-2020, 07:50 PM
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That's a good chippy! 😉
Hibs4185
28-02-2020, 08:03 PM
I read today that Stendel has returned refreshed from a holiday in Germany. He is def an undercover agent employed by STF as a parting gift to us Hibees
Tough game on Tuesday evening however big big game at Tiny Park tomorrow evening.
Hoping for a few cards and maybe a few ripped hamstrings prior to this.
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Captain Trips
28-02-2020, 09:09 PM
I read today that Stendel has returned refreshed from a holiday in Germany. He is def an undercover agent employed by STF as a parting gift to us Hibees
A good few days down the reeperbahn for our Stendel
The Spaceman
28-02-2020, 09:11 PM
Jambos Kickback brushing our humping tonight off as “it’s just ICT”. The same ICT who will be knocking you out in the playoffs IF you have an incredible end to the season and avoids TWELFTH PLACE you losers. Bring on Tuesday. We are going to absolutely rag doll them.
Joe6-2
28-02-2020, 09:14 PM
A good few days down the reeperbahn for our Stendel
A few Steins or a lot of Steins!!
Hibeesmad
28-02-2020, 09:40 PM
DANIEL STENDEL has introduced GOGGLES and ROPE to training in a bid to improve his team’s defending.
The under-pressure*Hearts*coach ordered bewildered defenders to put on ski goggles at the Riccarton training base.
Hearts boss Daniel Stendel oversees training
They were told the drill would help their peripheral vision — as Stendel has raised concerns about a lack of awareness in his back line.
The struggling Jambos have shipped 13 goals in their last four Premiership games and 22 in his 11 league fixtures since the German’s arrival.
Stendel’s also managed just one victory — against Rangers — and suffered six defeats with fans now fearing relegation.
Rock-bottom Hearts are currently two points adrift of*Hamilton*and six behind*St Mirren.
It’s believed the former Barnsley coach provoked laughter among the squad when the goggles were produced for his idea of transforming his defence.
But he also set up another session where his back four were connected by rope to ensure they worked and moved together as a solid unit.
Stendel is prepared to consider anything which could possibly spark a Jambos side which hasn’t played for a fortnight following last week’s washout against St Mirren.
Rangers visit Tynecastle this evening with a place in the Scottish Cup semi-finals up for grabs while the Jambos return to league action in Tuesday’s Edinburgh derby.
SunSport*revealed this month that*tension was rising in the dressing room*concerning Stendel’s communication, tactics and man-management.
A number of players were quick to publicly defend him but others have been privately unhappy with his methods.
While league form has been dismal, Stendel has won both his Cup ties against Airdrie and Falkirk without conceding and another win over Steven Gerrard’s men would boost morale again.
But defeat, followed by a loss to*Hibs*at Easter Road, would increase pressure and scrutiny
Peevemor
28-02-2020, 09:43 PM
DANIEL STENDEL has introduced GOGGLES and ROPE to training in a bid to improve his team’s defending.
The under-pressure*Hearts*coach ordered bewildered defenders to put on ski goggles at the Riccarton training base.
Hearts boss Daniel Stendel oversees training
They were told the drill would help their peripheral vision — as Stendel has raised concerns about a lack of awareness in his back line.
The struggling Jambos have shipped 13 goals in their last four Premiership games and 22 in his 11 league fixtures since the German’s arrival.
Stendel’s also managed just one victory — against Rangers — and suffered six defeats with fans now fearing relegation.
Rock-bottom Hearts are currently two points adrift of*Hamilton*and six behind*St Mirren.
It’s believed the former Barnsley coach provoked laughter among the squad when the goggles were produced for his idea of transforming his defence.
But he also set up another session where his back four were connected by rope to ensure they worked and moved together as a solid unit.
Stendel is prepared to consider anything which could possibly spark a Jambos side which hasn’t played for a fortnight following last week’s washout against St Mirren.
Rangers visit Tynecastle this evening with a place in the Scottish Cup semi-finals up for grabs while the Jambos return to league action in Tuesday’s Edinburgh derby.
SunSport*revealed this month that*tension was rising in the dressing room*concerning Stendel’s communication, tactics and man-management.
A number of players were quick to publicly defend him but others have been privately unhappy with his methods.
While league form has been dismal, Stendel has won both his Cup ties against Airdrie and Falkirk without conceding and another win over Steven Gerrard’s men would boost morale again.
But defeat, followed by a loss to*Hibs*at Easter Road, would increase pressure and scrutinyMaybe their defenders will keep the rope on for Tuesday, to stop Boyle & Sparkie running right through them.
DANIEL STENDEL has introduced GOGGLES and ROPE to training in a bid to improve his team’s defending.
The under-pressure*Hearts*coach ordered bewildered defenders to put on ski goggles at the Riccarton training base.
Hearts boss Daniel Stendel oversees training
They were told the drill would help their peripheral vision — as Stendel has raised concerns about a lack of awareness in his back line.
The struggling Jambos have shipped 13 goals in their last four Premiership games and 22 in his 11 league fixtures since the German’s arrival.
Stendel’s also managed just one victory — against Rangers — and suffered six defeats with fans now fearing relegation.
Rock-bottom Hearts are currently two points adrift of*Hamilton*and six behind*St Mirren.
It’s believed the former Barnsley coach provoked laughter among the squad when the goggles were produced for his idea of transforming his defence.
But he also set up another session where his back four were connected by rope to ensure they worked and moved together as a solid unit.
Stendel is prepared to consider anything which could possibly spark a Jambos side which hasn’t played for a fortnight following last week’s washout against St Mirren.
Rangers visit Tynecastle this evening with a place in the Scottish Cup semi-finals up for grabs while the Jambos return to league action in Tuesday’s Edinburgh derby.
SunSport*revealed this month that*tension was rising in the dressing room*concerning Stendel’s communication, tactics and man-management.
A number of players were quick to publicly defend him but others have been privately unhappy with his methods.
While league form has been dismal, Stendel has won both his Cup ties against Airdrie and Falkirk without conceding and another win over Steven Gerrard’s men would boost morale again.
But defeat, followed by a loss to*Hibs*at Easter Road, would increase pressure and scrutinyRope is a very old school method for defenders. Shankley drilled his back four like that at Anfield for many a year.
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Topographic Hibby
28-02-2020, 09:52 PM
DANIEL STENDEL has introduced GOGGLES and ROPE to training in a bid to improve his team’s defending.
The under-pressure*Hearts*coach ordered bewildered defenders to put on ski goggles at the Riccarton training base.
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They were told the drill would help their peripheral vision — as Stendel has raised concerns about a lack of awareness in his back line.
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It’s believed the former Barnsley coach provoked laughter among the squad when the goggles were produced for his idea of transforming his defence.
But he also set up another session where his back four were connected by rope to ensure they worked and moved together as a solid unit.I really can't decide if this guy is Mike Bassett, David Brent or the German Pep/Deutsche Dalry Lama (delete as appropriate). He's either a footballing genius/visionary or seven Steins of Becks short of being a completely bladdered half-wit. :confused:
Green_one
28-02-2020, 10:53 PM
Maybe their defenders will keep the rope on for Tuesday, to stop Boyle & Sparkie running right through them.
Oh no. How will we ever overcome a group of s@@@ defenders tied together by some crazy German loser
I may have a wee bet on Tuesdays result :cb
CloudSquall
29-02-2020, 01:58 AM
Kickback spewing at the number of times pundits referenced "fast flowing football" tonight, hopefully we see much more of it next week to tip them over the edge:greengrin
Springbank
29-02-2020, 06:36 AM
Estimates on jkb that hearts have only shifted 3500 tickets for the home end tonight
They could have saved money by closing 2 stands
Since452
29-02-2020, 07:26 AM
Estimates on jkb that hearts have only shifted 3500 tickets for the home end tonight
They could have saved money by closing 2 stands
I remember when Celtic beat them 7-0 at Tynecastle in the Scottish Cup the total attendance was 10k with 3k Celtic fans. Think it'll be similar today.
Big team.
Carheenlea
29-02-2020, 07:42 AM
Estimates on jkb that hearts have only shifted 3500 tickets for the home end tonight
They could have saved money by closing 2 stands
More than enough to over subscribe if they were getting a similar allocation to what they give us.
Edit - just realised you were talking about tonight’s game and not derby. Oops
So Kev the Jambo at work mentioned yesterday that there is a really good chance the football season will be cancelled, with everything null and void because of the threat of the Coronavirus!
Budge has apparently been in touch with the SPFL raising her concerns!
Desperation of the highest level of true!
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Since452
29-02-2020, 08:01 AM
I was reading this morning that Stendel has them wearing goggles and using ropes in training to improve their defending....
ballengeich
29-02-2020, 08:03 AM
Estimates on jkb that hearts have only shifted 3500 tickets for the home end tonight
They could have saved money by closing 2 stands
They could have made money by allocating an extra 2 stands to the visitors, like St Johnstone did, but I suppose big teams don't behave that way.
wallpaperman
29-02-2020, 08:21 AM
I was reading this morning that Stendel has them wearing goggles and using ropes in training to improve their defending....
Anyone know if Danny boy was at Easter Road last night, or do managers not do that any more and send their minions or just watch on the tv?
I know if I was a manager in an unfamiliar country I would want to get a feel of the stadium and watch opponents in the flesh.
Perhaps he was cementing his legend in the pubs of Gorgie with his faithful followers.
wallpaperman
29-02-2020, 08:28 AM
Estimates on jkb that hearts have only shifted 3500 tickets for the home end tonight
They could have saved money by closing 2 stands
I was sceptical but you can look at their eticket website a bit like ours, click on all the sections, and there are genuinely swathes of unsold seats.
The main stand probably has a reasonable amount sold and the one opposite in the middle section, but there is a lot of blue dots.
I reckon maybe 4500 sold at the most, may sell a few more today, but pretty dire.
WoreTheGreen
29-02-2020, 08:30 AM
I was reading this morning that Stendel has them wearing goggles and using ropes in training to improve their defending....
Beer goggles?
Bostonhibby
29-02-2020, 08:31 AM
Anyone know if Danny boy was at Easter Road last night, or do managers not do that any more and send their minions or just watch on the tv?
I know if I was a manager in an unfamiliar country I would want to get a feel of the stadium and watch opponents in the flesh.
Perhaps he was cementing his legend in the pubs of Gorgie with his faithful followers.He'll have been down wetherspoons where they don't usually have football on or if it is the sounds off, so it'll be a bit like a home game for him.
He'll have the team with him roped together and wearing Ned Kelly masks to improve their peripheral vision and they make excellent 8 pint pitchers as well.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200229/7d89882390b2d2d897670fa775b19736.jpg
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Bostonhibby
29-02-2020, 08:38 AM
So Kev the Jambo at work mentioned yesterday that there is a really good chance the football season will be cancelled, with everything null and void because of the threat of the Coronavirus!
Budge has apparently been in touch with the SPFL raising her concerns!
Desperation of the highest level of true!
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf this does happen it's probably fairer that the league positions at the time of cancellation applies, so the maroon balloons could be the only team to have won a league by October and be relegated by March, another first.
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pontius pilate
29-02-2020, 08:46 AM
So Kev the Jambo at work mentioned yesterday that there is a really good chance the football season will be cancelled, with everything null and void because of the threat of the Coronavirus!
Budge has apparently been in touch with the SPFL raising her concerns!
Desperation of the highest level of true!
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I read an article yesterday where it mentioned the EPLthe question was if it had to be cancelled would liverpool be crowned champions, no mention of the SPFL, obviously there is other steps to take before the leagues were cancelled including playing games behind closed doors, the conclusion was that league placing would remain, straw clutching at it's very best by our maroon chums
Ozyhibby
29-02-2020, 08:49 AM
If this does happen it's probably fairer that the league positions at the time of cancellation applies, so the maroon balloons could be the only team to have won a league by October and be relegated by March, another first.
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If it didn’t, Dundee Utd would be heading to court that week.
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Bostonhibby
29-02-2020, 08:54 AM
If it didn’t, Dundee Utd would be heading to court that week.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYep, I think Kev is probably making stuff up to make himself feel better but if his fantasy did come true they'll be typically shameless about how they survived and there'll be an open top bus celebration even if they had to do it in decontamination suits.
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The Spaceman
29-02-2020, 08:57 AM
Considering the only other time the league has ever been suspended was for World War 2, any thoughts that a flu virus will cancel our league/make all results null and void are purely fanciful from their point of view. If the SPFL froze the league from today, we would be 75% of the way through the season. Assuming 4 more games each, takes us to 85% - would be a case of tough luck Hearts, cheerio.
Deansy
29-02-2020, 11:12 AM
It's all great fun having a laugh at our neighbours who were once our rivals but seriously, can the SPL honestly afford to lose a club with a 400,000 support ??
If this does happen it's probably fairer that the league positions at the time of cancellation applies, so the maroon balloons could be the only team to have won a league by October and be relegated by March, another first.
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Kev’s just nit wanting to admit it might happen so any excuse is needed and looked at
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macca70
29-02-2020, 11:32 AM
I was reading this morning that Stendel has them wearing goggles and using ropes in training to improve their defending....
I am sure Vlad has returned in a Stendel disguise:
Hearts boss Stendel makes players use GOGGLES and ROPE in bizarre training drills
DANIEL STENDEL has introduced GOGGLES and ROPE to training in a bid to improve his team’s defending.
The under-pressure Hearts coach ordered bewildered defenders to put on ski goggles at the Riccarton training base.
They were told the drill would help their peripheral vision — as Stendel has raised concerns about a lack of awareness in his back line.
It’s believed the former Barnsley coach provoked laughter among the squad when the goggles were produced for his idea of transforming his defence.
But he also set up another session where his back four were connected by rope to ensure they worked and moved together as a solid unit.
StevesFamau5
29-02-2020, 12:01 PM
A quick check on Eticketing shows scores of empty seats. But not singles or even doubles. Some with rows and almost all sections empty.
9k would be generous at this rate. And they mocked us for a Friday night free to air TV game v a lower league opponent. Jambos + irony = delusion.
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Onceinawhile
29-02-2020, 12:09 PM
I am sure Vlad has returned in a Stendel disguise:
Hearts boss Stendel makes players use GOGGLES and ROPE in bizarre training drills
DANIEL STENDEL has introduced GOGGLES and ROPE to training in a bid to improve his team’s defending.
The under-pressure Hearts coach ordered bewildered defenders to put on ski goggles at the Riccarton training base.
They were told the drill would help their peripheral vision — as Stendel has raised concerns about a lack of awareness in his back line.
It’s believed the former Barnsley coach provoked laughter among the squad when the goggles were produced for his idea of transforming his defence.
But he also set up another session where his back four were connected by rope to ensure they worked and moved together as a solid unit.
The fact that article has made the sun is great news for us.
Suggests to me that someone or some people in the camp are seriously unhappy / think the guy is a wack job and they clearly don't respect him.
I think they've got a better squad than accies and St mirren, but I'm pretty certain they're not going to play for their manager so they're toiling big time imo
flash
29-02-2020, 12:11 PM
So Kev the Jambo at work mentioned yesterday that there is a really good chance the football season will be cancelled, with everything null and void because of the threat of the Coronavirus!
Budge has apparently been in touch with the SPFL raising her concerns!
Desperation of the highest level of true!
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I fully realise Kev the Jambo is a fictitious workmate but still enjoy the way you use him to rip the Hertz.
CapitalGreen
29-02-2020, 12:11 PM
The fact that article has made the sun is great news for us.
Suggests to me that someone or some people in the camp are seriously unhappy / think the guy is a wack job and they clearly don't respect him.
I think they've got a better squad than accies and St mirren, but I'm pretty certain they're not going to play for their manager so they're toiling big time imo
John Souttar 🤐
jacomo
29-02-2020, 01:53 PM
So Kev the Jambo at work mentioned yesterday that there is a really good chance the football season will be cancelled, with everything null and void because of the threat of the Coronavirus!
Budge has apparently been in touch with the SPFL raising her concerns!
Desperation of the highest level of true!
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Coronavirus is pretty big and famous, so maybe there’s something in it?
It also turns folk into snivelling wrecks: another thing it and Hearts have in common.
Eyrie
29-02-2020, 06:53 PM
A quick check on Eticketing shows scores of empty seats. But not singles or even doubles. Some with rows and almost all sections empty.
9k would be generous at this rate. And they mocked us for a Friday night free to air TV game v a lower league opponent. Jambos + irony = delusion.
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They got 1500 more than us for a game hidden away on a channel that few people bother with and only because the away end was full. Far fewer fans in the home end today than last night and we had to contend with being on a channel people actually watch.
Hibs4185
29-02-2020, 07:05 PM
The fact that article has made the sun is great news for us.
Suggests to me that someone or some people in the camp are seriously unhappy / think the guy is a wack job and they clearly don't respect him.
I think they've got a better squad than accies and St mirren, but I'm pretty certain they're not going to play for their manager so they're toiling big time imo
Well that would be true, If like all big teams they owned their training ground but at Oriam you can walk past and watch them train.
I actually thought this was a joke article written by someone .net but it turns out to be true. Fannies
Eyrie
29-02-2020, 07:23 PM
Well that would be true, If like all big teams they owned their training ground but at Oriam you can walk past and watch them train.
I actually thought this was a joke article written by someone .net but it turns out to be true. Fannies
Is there anything to stop an upcoming opponent walking past several times during a training session?
1875godsgift
29-02-2020, 07:39 PM
Is there anything to stop an upcoming opponent walking past several times during a training session?
Probably not, but to be fair, all they'd see is a bunch of clowns wearing pompom hats and skiing goggles, tied together with ropes, tripping each other up.
Quite likely they would have removed the goal posts too so hard to tell it's a football training session, more like a creative assault on the south face of Arthur's Seat.
KingPat4
01-03-2020, 10:15 AM
Does yesterday's Hertz result change anyone's views about the game on Tuesday night?
Danderhall Hibs
01-03-2020, 10:21 AM
Does yesterday's Hertz result change anyone's views about the game on Tuesday night?
I think it’s made me more confident - it’s always difficult to follow up on a high like they had last night. Sore legs and on the come down...
B.H.F.C
01-03-2020, 10:21 AM
Does yesterday's Hertz result change anyone's views about the game on Tuesday night?
Na. They’re not suddenly a good team, they just got a good result.
We need to go out and beat them on Tuesday. And it’s about time we beat them well.
PatHead
01-03-2020, 10:24 AM
Going to hump them. They got lucky yesterday as sevco had no forwards.
With their high line our pace will rip them apart.
weecounty hibby
01-03-2020, 10:27 AM
What was the score in their next game after beating the Hun in the league? Got a fluke draw at St Johnstone after being pounded. Then lost to Kilmarnock and then drew with Hamilton again after getting lucky with a red for Hamilton. They are pish and a fluke result here and there doesn't change that. Rangers were rank and it was on their five a side pitch in poor conditions and Der Hun are in turmoil. All added up to being in hearts favour. Still believe we are by far the better side and will have enough to do them at ER
KingPat4
01-03-2020, 10:32 AM
They had two weeks off to work on defence, while the Huns had a big match on Wednesday, So it was not that much of a surprise to me.
I fancy us to score goals against any team, but I just pray that Hanlon and Jackson are on top of their game. Need better concentration at the back than we had against Caley.
Reckon they will be full on hoofball.
Does yesterday's Hertz result change anyone's views about the game on Tuesday night?
Not really. Good result for them, no doubt about that. Rangers are in turmoil and, just like last time, were without their top goalscorer. Hearts are still sh¡te.
Stendel has done a Levein and bought himself more time, he just does it by beating Rangers whereas Levein would pull a result against us out of the bag when they'd been on a bad run.
I think they'll suffer from a come down after a big result, just like we sometimes do and like they did a month ago.
chrisski33
01-03-2020, 10:46 AM
really need to thump them on Tuesday they (the fans) already think they will beat us after yesterdays result!
Since452
01-03-2020, 10:50 AM
really need to thump them on Tuesday they (the fans) already think they will beat us after yesterdays result!
Good. They were going to beat us on boxing day as well
KingPat4
01-03-2020, 10:53 AM
I'll be happy with 1-0.
One game less for them and no more points.
thegaffer12
01-03-2020, 10:54 AM
They'll be absolutely knackered after yesterday's game. They had to try really hard to maintain that score yesterday.
Ozyhibby
01-03-2020, 11:45 AM
I'll be happy with 1-0.
One game less for them and no more points.
Is it greedy to want Hamilton to win at Ibrox on Wednesday as well?
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green day
01-03-2020, 11:47 AM
Is it greedy to want Hamilton to win at Ibrox on Wednesday as well?
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No:aok:
CMurdoch
01-03-2020, 11:47 AM
Gerrard made a massive mistake yesterday by not having Morelos at least on the bench.
As a result they offered very little other than the 15 mins after Hearts scored when they opened them up but didn't have a striker to take advantage.
Hibs will play a far more expansive game than Rangers did and on a bigger pitch.
Biggest plus for them yesterday other than the result was a less suicidal backline than we have seen previously. They will need to maintain this improvement or Hibs will get Boyle behind them with ease again as they did in January.
Additionally Naismith played his best game for a while. Was a pest all over the pitch and managed to get at least 3 decent headers on goal.
Ultimately I can't see them coping with the speed, width and variety of our attacks on Tuesday so expecting a Hibs win. Once again Boyle will be the X factor that can't be contained.
Biggest danger to us on Tuesday is losing goals from set pieces. Boyce will also be back to give them a threat up front.
Looking forward to it.
WoreTheGreen
01-03-2020, 11:50 AM
Didn’t watch it why was Morelos not stripped?
Paul1642
01-03-2020, 11:56 AM
Didn’t watch it why was Morelos not stripped?
Punishment for not returning from Columbia on the agreed date.
WoreTheGreen
01-03-2020, 11:59 AM
Punishment for not returning from Columbia on the agreed date.
Cheers exit plan hatched? Rats and ships spring to mind
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