The generic Hearts thread

[The 90+2]

Looks like they fell for the buried pirate treasure map that was anonymously posted to Ibrox.

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😁😁

[Ozyhibby]

Think I heard at the weekend there was an Spfl board meeting yesterday and they would possibly then deliver what they thought to a clubs meeting today. Whether that is correct at all :greengrin or whether anything is ratified today who knows. :greengrin

On another point I wonder how the spfl board deal with decisions where some of the board members would have an obvious conflict of interest given they are primarily if not totally Donkey aside made up of club representatives.

The board have said that because of this, they are only going to make recommendations on this issue and the clubs will take a vote.


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[Del Boy]

Reported in The Times that they may call the lower leagues (championship down) as finished and leave decision on premier for longer to see if any chance of resuming.

[Ozyhibby]

According to the Daily Ranger, The Rangers have started digging up their pitch.

Essential work? How can they get workers for that?


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[Danderhall Hibs]

Essential work? How can they get workers for that?


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Self employed folk can continue working.

[Ozyhibby]

:agree: I was talking about it yesterday and the more you think about the more complicated it gets.

Contracts ending, transfer windows - can clubs sign players in the summer and if so can they play this season or do they need to wait until next season, players being cup tied but having moved on - if we play the rest of the cup in November who’s eligible? Imagine we signed Shankland having put his team out of the cup and he went on to score the winner in the final for us?

Interesting points. The Scottish cup has a chance of being finished next season just because the clubs involved will want the cash and so will the SFA. And it’s only three games.
I would think they will have to amend the rules in these special circumstances to allow teams to play with their new squads.


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[Moulin Yarns]

There was a meeting of the SPFL board yesterday and today there are 4 meetings of each of the 4 leagues where the board are likely to let the clubs know their recommendations.
I would think there will be leaks from today’s meetings.
While I don’t think the SPFL will make a decision today, it’s possible they set out a road map to a decision. Something along the lines of ‘if clubs can’t resume training by x date then the league will be called in current positions’. Means they are giving every chance to finish the games, so keeping UEFA happy while also giving the likes of Hearts time to adjust to the reality of relegation.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52204926

[Springbank]

According to the Daily Ranger, The Rangers have started digging up their pitch.

This is the closest they will ever get, to experiencing how it felt, at our end of Hampden, at the full time whistle on 21 May 2016.

Dig dig dig!

Hope they take the crossbar down too, what a day!

[Danderhall Hibs]

Interesting points. The Scottish cup has a chance of being finished next season just because the clubs involved will want the cash and so will the SFA. And it’s only three games.
I would think they will have to amend the rules in these special circumstances to allow teams to play with their new squads.


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For the cup, I’d imagine you’re right but it could end up with a strange situation like the example I gave or even Docherty scoring the winner against us.

[Ozyhibby]

For the cup, I’d imagine you’re right but it could end up with a strange situation like the example I gave or even Docherty scoring the winner against us.

Pub quiz questions for the future.[emoji3]


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[EdinMike]

For the cup, I’d imagine you’re right but it could end up with a strange situation like the example I gave or even Docherty scoring the winner against us.

Is Docherty one of the signings Hearts were talking about or have The Rangers managed to find a loop hole back into the Scottish Cup ?! 🤔

[Brooster]

Think I heard at the weekend there was an Spfl board meeting yesterday and they would possibly then deliver what they thought to a clubs meeting today. Whether that is correct at all :greengrin or whether anything is ratified today who knows. :greengrin

On another point I wonder how the spfl board deal with decisions where some of the board members would have an obvious conflict of interest given they are primarily if not totally Donkey aside made up of club representatives.

The lower league clubs (Championship, L1 and L2) have voted to finish the leagues as they stand.

[Peevemor]

The lower league clubs (Championship, L1 and L2) have voted to finish the leagues as they stand.

If that's the case then Hearts are goosed.

[ancient hibee]

For the cup, I’d imagine you’re right but it could end up with a strange situation like the example I gave or even Docherty scoring the winner against us.

A player can only play for one club in a cup competition-that won't change regardless of when the remaining matches are played.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Is Docherty one of the signings Hearts were talking about or have The Rangers managed to find a loop hole back into the Scottish Cup ?! 🤔

Oh aye 😂 just a wee flaw.

Same principal but use a different player then.

[Danderhall Hibs]

A player can only play for one club in a cup competition-that won't change regardless of when the remaining matches are played.

Teams might not have enough players available.

[Brightside]

The lower league clubs (Championship, L1 and L2) have voted to finish the leagues as they stand.

Source? They apparently arent having the joint meeting till midday?

[Jim44]

For the cup, I’d imagine you’re right but it could end up with a strange situation like the example I gave or even Docherty scoring the winner against us.



A player can only play for one club in a cup competition-that won't change regardless of when the remaining matches are played.



Is Docherty one of the signings Hearts were talking about or have The Rangers managed to find a loop hole back into the Scottish Cup ?! 🤔


Oh aye 😂 just a wee flaw.

Same principal but use a different player then.

.......... so Kamberi won’t score a hat trick for us in the final? :devil::tin hat::stirrer::offski:

[RoxburghHibs]

Source? They apparently arent having the joint meeting till midday?

This reported on the BBC website this morning.

[scoopyboy]

Source? They apparently arent having the joint meeting till midday?

Brooster knows you know.

It's the top division that are meeting today.

[Brooster]

Brooster knows you know.

It's the top division that are meeting today.

Correct. Lower league have already voted.

[munchar]

Correct. Lower league have already voted.

Is it a majority vote? Not very fair that Patrick have a winnable game in hand to keep them up. Can’t believe that wouldn’t come into the argumen?

[Onion]

This reported on the BBC website this morning.

They'll call the season. Only question will be which system they use. Leave as is or use a super-computer (as they did in the old days for Pools Coupons).

Or they could also feed all the data into Football Manager and show the games play out on Sky :thumbsup:

[Del Boy]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-season-end-but-premiership-not-clear-cut?top

United to be promoted but relegation not clear....ffs

[GlesgaeHibby]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-season-end-but-premiership-not-clear-cut?top

United to be promoted but relegation not clear....ffs

If United are going up and reconstruction isn't on the cards, as per the article, then hearts are down surely.

[Since90+2]

If United are going up and reconstruction isn't on the cards, as per the article, then hearts are down surely.

Or a playoff with Hamilton.

[poolman]

Or a playoff with Hamilton.



Totally not fair on Hamilton that

[munchar]

If United are going up and reconstruction isn't on the cards, as per the article, then hearts are down surely.

Absolute joke if Hearts stay up. Why would they even consider reconstruction? It’s not even been mentioned for a long time, so if it’s just to keep them up, it’s a disgrace. They’ve been mismanaged & been the worse team by a mile over the last 12-18 months.

[Col2]

I think it just means form championship and below they have a clear view with United going up but haven’t decided on premiership yet.

If United are going up and no league reconstruction then the Bambi’s are going down down down.

[Sioux]

Or a playoff with Hamilton.

Why should Hamilton be forced into a play-off. They could argue that St Mirren are in danger of being relegated. Where would that end?.

[Skol]

I think that Dundee United will be promoted.

They will then have some kind of a play off between those that could still have been promoted / relegated part or play off as part of pre-season to determine who are in SPL or Championship. Those that were mathematically most likely will have more play off rounds to negotiate (Hearts)

[Since90+2]

Why should Hamilton be forced into a play-off. They could argue that St Mirren are in danger of being relegated. Where would that end?.

Not saying I agree with it but it's probably not out with the realms of possibility. More likely than league reconstruction that keeps getting mentioned IMO.

[SMAXXA]

I think that Dundee United will be promoted.

They will then have some kind of a play off between those that could still have been promoted / relegated part or play off as part of pre-season to determine who are in SPL or Championship. Those that were mathematically most likely will have more play off rounds to negotiate (Hearts)

No chance can I see that, clubs need to know well in advance what league they are planning for as it will impact budgets etc and player targets. Needs decided and will be well before Pre season

[JohnM1875]

If Partick are getting relegated then Hearts should be relegated. Surely it's only a matter of time until it happens.

[Ozyhibby]

.......... so Kamberi won’t score a hat trick for us in the final? :devil::tin hat::stirrer::offski:

I think he can actually only play for us.[emoji23]


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[Winston Ingram]

I heard something yesterday saying that the post-split fixtures will be binned and the season will end once teams play their remaining fixtures, meaning Hearts have 3 games to save themselves

[Bostonhibby]

Why should Hamilton be forced into a play-off. They could argue that St Mirren are in danger of being relegated. Where would that end?.That would need them to create a rule that wasn't in place at the beginning of the season which no clubs were playing to and would surely leave Hamilton with a legal challenge?

Mind you an arrangement like this would be purely to accommodate the thieves and since they managed to fiddle the 5 way agreement through anything's possible in Scottish football.

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[Ozyhibby]

Or a playoff with Hamilton.

If we could play football we wouldn’t need all these meetings.[emoji6]


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[munchar]

If Partick are getting relegated then Hearts should be relegated. Surely it's only a matter of time until it happens.

It’s not because it’s Hearts that I’m annoyed, but there’s a very good chance they’ll bounce straight back up. Hamilton, Ross Co etc, their goal every season is survival. It would be very damaging to them. Hearts are bottom for a reason. They’re the worst team in the league. Take your punishment without the embarrassing legal threat.

[Onion]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-season-end-but-premiership-not-clear-cut?top

United to be promoted but relegation not clear....ffs

Suspect the reason they're dealing with the Prem differently is to allow them to come to their own inevitable conclusion through discussion ..

Option 1 - Wait for what could be months until games are allowed again, with no financial payout from the SFA/SPFL, running the real risk some clubs going bust (incl Hearts & Sevco)... only to end up with the same likely outcome - Celtic win the league, and Hearts get relegated. That could be extremely costly to many Prem clubs, just to give Hearts and Sevco a straw to clutch to.

Option 2 - Hearts and Sevco accept the inevitable, lifeline payouts are made to all clubs, tell UEFA to STFU and get on with planning for next season, selling season tickets etc. Hearts might be offered some money to take their medicine and avoid any costly legal challenge. This is probably the best that Budge can expect at this point and I suspect she'll accept it and sell it as some kind of moral victory to Hearts fans.

[Heisenberg]

Sounds like the only reason the top league isn’t being decided on just now is UEFA.

[jacomo]

Suspect the reason they're dealing with the Prem differently is to allow them to come to their own inevitable conclusion through discussion ..

Option 1 - Wait for what could be months until games are allowed again, with no financial payout from the SFA/SPFL, running the real risk some clubs going bust (incl Hearts & Sevco)... only to end up with the same likely outcome - Celtic win the league, and Hearts get relegated. That could be extremely costly to many Prem clubs, just to give Hearts and Sevco a straw to clutch to.

Option 2 - Hearts and Sevco accept the inevitable, lifeline payouts are made to all clubs, tell UEFA to STFU and get on with planning for next season, selling season tickets etc. Hearts might be offered some money to take their medicine and avoid any costly legal challenge. This is probably the best that Budge can expect at this point and I suspect she'll accept it and sell it as some kind of moral victory to Hearts fans.


Is it because they are scared of angry Huns, as usual?

[steviehibsleith]

The SPL are simply waiting for UEAFA too come to their senses and accept the season is over . Probably still have two weeks 1st of May before player contracts cause major problems so SPL can wait.
Accept what Championship League 1/2 have asked for and pay out now prize money too keep them going

All SPL have to do in two weeks is say Hearts down ........Four points adrift . Partick and play off teams are unfortunate .

[The 90+2]

Oh happy days 👍

[The 90+2]

Is it because they are scared of angry Huns, as usual?

Nah even they seem to have concluded the season is done doing up their pitch.

[Col2]

The net is closing on Hearts. What the SPFL have cleverly in my opinion done is said, ok all clubs you have two choices: 1. Void season or 2. call it as it is. And while the premier league clubs also vote, the outcome of this cannot be confirmed until SPFL have spoken and advised UEFA (remember the point made by president that he didn’t want to hear about it in the press).

All 42 clubs getting a vote. Only teams impacted significantly will vote to void it - Rangers (bitterness), Hearts and Patrick. Maybe one or two more. 90%+ will vote to call it given other option commercial suicide.

Then we will see Dundee United promoted, no play off and Patrick down and same approach for league 1 and 2. For Premier League - Celtic champions, Hearts relegated and confirmed ONLY ONCE discussed with UEFA - so might be a couple of weeks.

Hearts are 99% down.

[The 90+2]

Do Brechin stay up? That’s what I heard recently.

[ACLeith]

It is, as long as it doesn't generate revenue for the employer.

It's a long way down this page....

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-for-wage-costs-through-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme

Looking at that CWG it states "A furloughed employee can take part in volunteer work, if it does not provide services to or generate revenue for, or on behalf of your organisation"

I have a vested interest in this, as a voluntary treasurer of a charity that is planning to continue paying full salaries to our small number of staff and furloughing them to recoup 80% of our costs. There might be some small opportunities for some staff to volunteer, but my reading of what I saw previously on that page suggested they couldn't. What could they do that is not providing a "service" to the organisation?

[Del Boy]

The penny is even starting to drop over on kickback...

[Greenworld]

The net is closing on Hearts. What the SPFL have cleverly in my opinion done is said, ok all clubs you have two choices: 1. Void season or 2. call it as it is. And while the premier league clubs also vote, the outcome of this cannot be confirmed until SPFL have spoken and advised UEFA (remember the point made by president that he didn’t want to hear about it in the press).

All 42 clubs getting a vote. Only teams impacted significantly will vote to void it - Rangers (bitterness), Hearts and Patrick. Maybe one or two more. 90%+ will vote to call it given other option commercial suicide.

Then we will see Dundee United promoted, no play off and Patrick down and same approach for league 1 and 2. For Premier League - Celtic champions, Hearts relegated and confirmed ONLY ONCE discussed with UEFA - so might be a couple of weeks.

Hearts are 99% down.Don't t disagree with anything apart from in sure UEFA said what happens with individual countries leugues is their decision.
Yes the are fronting up about European cups but if as expected we finish the leuges as they are then I doubt it will be a problem.

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[Heisenberg]

So this is what’s happening with the Premiership..

“The resolution also recommends that matches in the Ladbrokes Premiership remain postponed for the time being, to give the best possible opportunity for the remaining 2019/20 fixtures to be played.
However, if the SPFL Board determines that the remaining Premiership matches cannot be played, the Ladbrokes Premiership would also be terminated, with final season placings determined on the same basis.”

Seriously? There is clearly no chance fixtures will be played. Placings being decided on a points per game basis in the lower leagues. They are apparently trying to figure out any possible way to complete the top league games before calling it.

[PatHead]

So this is what’s happening with the Premiership..

“The resolution also recommends that matches in the Ladbrokes Premiership remain postponed for the time being, to give the best possible opportunity for the remaining 2019/20 fixtures to be played.
However, if the SPFL Board determines that the remaining Premiership matches cannot be played, the Ladbrokes Premiership would also be terminated, with final season placings determined on the same basis.”

Seriously? There is clearly no chance fixtures will be played. Placings being decided on a points per game basis in the lower leagues. They are apparently trying to figure out any possible way to complete the top league games before calling it.

To be fair I think they are covering all bases by doing that.
They can now go to uefa and say government have us in lock down. Can we finish the season with our teams qualifying for Europe?
Going to be really annoying when we win the cup again and don't get into Europe.

[The 90+2]

Do Brechin stay up? That’s what I heard recently.

They stay up.

[ElginHibbie]

So this is what’s happening with the Premiership..

“The resolution also recommends that matches in the Ladbrokes Premiership remain postponed for the time being, to give the best possible opportunity for the remaining 2019/20 fixtures to be played.
However, if the SPFL Board determines that the remaining Premiership matches cannot be played, the Ladbrokes Premiership would also be terminated, with final season placings determined on the same basis.”

Seriously? There is clearly no chance fixtures will be played. Placings being decided on a points per game basis in the lower leagues. They are apparently trying to figure out any possible way to complete the top league games before calling it.

I think they are really just hoping UEFA come to their senses and there is no longer a threat to the European places before calling it

As others have said Rangers are digging up their pitch, think it's safe to say they know the season is done

[Hibernianinc]

Looking at Scotland’s 4 leagues the picture is actually pretty clear cut.

Assuming average points as a basis to square off the mis-match in games played, no team in League winning or automatic relegation spots change position.

Sellick, Dundee Utd and Cove are miles ahead (even the most idiotic hun can’t really think sellick will lose at least 4, half of their remaining games, when they’ve lost just 2 all season so far).

Of the relegation spots, only herts and Partick could claim to be ‘in the mix’, but both have been bottom for ages so it’s hardly nip n’ tuck.

Those in the play-offs will be narked, but there’s no guarantee here and the set-up is weighted against them. Net/net, they’d be arguing for ifs, but’s and maybe’s.

In summary, herts are toast.

Good. 😊

[Danderhall Hibs]

As others have said Rangers are digging up their pitch, think it's safe to say they know the season is done

They don’t want the season to finish cos they know they can’t win it. The only option they’ll support is to void the season.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Looking at Scotland’s 4 leagues the picture is actually pretty clear cut.

Assuming average points as a basis to square off the mis-match in games played, no team in League winning or automatic relegation spots change position.

Sellick, Dundee Utd and Cove are miles ahead (even the most idiotic hun can’t really think sellick will lose at least 4, half of their remaining games, when they’ve lost just 2 all season so far).

Of the relegation spots, only herts and Partick could claim to be ‘in the mix’, but both have been bottom for ages so it’s hardly nip n’ tuck.

Those in the play-offs will be narked, but there’s no guarantee here and the set-up is weighted against them. Net/net, they’d be arguing for ifs, but’s and maybe’s.

In summary, herts are toast.

Good. 😊

Agreed - although the worst impact is on Partick: 1 point behind with a game in hand. Has to be average points to make it fairer.

Also a bit tight on Falkirk.

[Blaster]

If the resolution is approved, the SPFL has also committed to consulting with Clubs over the possibility of League restructuring ahead of Season 2020/21.

From the SPFL statement

[The 90+2]

They don’t want the season to finish cos they know they can’t win it. The only option they’ll support is to void the season.

It will be an extraordinarily vote where 2 against 10 won’t have a chance of winning. Hearts only chance of staying up is league reconstruction- why would clubs in the top league want less old firm cash and why would clubs in the championship vote to say cheerio to Dundee Utd and Inverness and be happy with no Hearts going down when they will be desperate for money?

[tamig]

Is it a majority vote? Not very fair that Patrick have a winnable game in hand to keep them up. Can’t believe that wouldn’t come into the argumen?

There will be clubs that aren’t happy with the majority outcome but that’s the reality of the situation unfortunately.

[The 90+2]

If the resolution is approved, the SPFL has also committed to consulting with Clubs over the possibility of League restructuring ahead of Season 2020/21.

From the SPFL statement

Which will be turned down but at least it’s lip service to Partick and the Lowland/highland teams.

[Blaster]

Which will be turned down but at least it’s lip service to Partick and the Lowland/highland teams.

I hope you are right 👍

[ElginHibbie]

They don’t want the season to finish cos they know they can’t win it. The only option they’ll support is to void the season.

Voiding not an option according to reports, so they will just have to deal with claiming Celtic only have 8 and a half in a row

[Kato]

The penny is even starting to drop over on kickback...

They've still got a penny? Bloomin' benefactors, always bailing them out.

[JimBHibees]

Suspect the reason they're dealing with the Prem differently is to allow them to come to their own inevitable conclusion through discussion ..

Option 1 - Wait for what could be months until games are allowed again, with no financial payout from the SFA/SPFL, running the real risk some clubs going bust (incl Hearts & Sevco)... only to end up with the same likely outcome - Celtic win the league, and Hearts get relegated. That could be extremely costly to many Prem clubs, just to give Hearts and Sevco a straw to clutch to.

Option 2 - Hearts and Sevco accept the inevitable, lifeline payouts are made to all clubs, tell UEFA to STFU and get on with planning for next season, selling season tickets etc. Hearts might be offered some money to take their medicine and avoid any costly legal challenge. This is probably the best that Budge can expect at this point and I suspect she'll accept it and sell it as some kind of moral victory to Hearts fans.

Budge will sell it as they have been unfairly treated even though they won't have been.

[JimBHibees]

To be fair I think they are covering all bases by doing that.
They can now go to uefa and say government have us in lock down. Can we finish the season with our teams qualifying for Europe?
Going to be really annoying when we win the cup again and don't get into Europe.

I would settle for that.

[The Spaceman]

So, that will be Hearts all but relegated :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Liking the empty offer of league reconstruction as well.

Jambos Kickback will be a hoot these next couple of days. :na na:

[Peevemor]

Budge will sell it as they have been unfairly treated even though they won't have been.

That's what annoys me - they'll forever say they were cheated into relegation, despite being the worst team in the league for the last year.

[Kato]

Budge will sell it as they have been unfairly treated even though they won't have been.


That's it in a nutshell, although her nutshell will be 1600 words whereas you only took 16.

Y'know.

[JimBHibees]

So, that will be Hearts all but relegated :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Liking the empty offer of league reconstruction as well.

Jambos Kickback will be a hoot these next couple of days. :na na:

Hoping reconstruction is an empty offer and not an attempt for some dodgy deal to save them.

[Col2]

So, that will be Hearts all but relegated :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Liking the empty offer of league reconstruction as well.

Jambos Kickback will be a hoot these next couple of days. :na na:

Kickback is on meltdown. Blaming everyone but themselves.

Best comments are:
1. Take the SPFL to the cleaners legally and delay as long as we can
2. Given Hibs will move down one place and lose price money surely they will vote against that.

Relegation is coming....😂😂😂

[mutley]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/d-day-clubs-be-asked-vote-voiding-season-or-calling-it-2532921




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[hibeerealist]

Sounds like the only reason the top league isn’t being decided on just now is UEFA.

I agree, dont they need to inform UEFA of their decision first?

[we are hibs]

I hope hibs do the right thing and vote for an end now and then against reconstruction.

[Mikey]

@gdown:

[Brightside]

Correct. Lower league have already voted.

:not worth

[Brightside]

Kickback is on meltdown. Blaming everyone but themselves.

Best comments are:
1. Take the SPFL to the cleaners legally and delay as long as we can
2. Given Hibs will move down one place and lose price money surely they will vote against that.

Relegation is coming....😂😂😂

Are we down a place?

[Dmas]

I hope hibs do the right thing and vote for an end now and then against reconstruction.

Any reconstruction talks will include colt teams for the rangers and Celtic should be knocking it back everytime until that idea is removed.

[Dmas]

Are we down a place?

Points system SPFL are talking about moves us to finish 7th, if it meant them going down I’m sure we could club together for a whip round and make up the difference

[Ozyhibby]

Any reconstruction talks will include colt teams for the rangers and Celtic should be knocking it back everytime until that idea is removed.

They need 11 Premiership teams to vote in favour of reconstruction. There is next to no chance they could get those numbers.


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[CropleyWasGod]

Looking at that CWG it states "A furloughed employee can take part in volunteer work, if it does not provide services to or generate revenue for, or on behalf of your organisation"

I have a vested interest in this, as a voluntary treasurer of a charity that is planning to continue paying full salaries to our small number of staff and furloughing them to recoup 80% of our costs. There might be some small opportunities for some staff to volunteer, but my reading of what I saw previously on that page suggested they couldn't. What could they do that is not providing a "service" to the organisation?

I see your problem.

I'm involved in a number of charities, and understand how so much of your activity (fundraising and service provision) will depend on voluntary work. I obviously don't know what kind of service or work your charity does, but I'm struggling to think of anything that could be done that isn't a "service". I have heard of some people saying things like "we can paint the office", but that, for me, would be a service that's actually saving the company money.

Taking the Hibs "phone calls" as an example, is there any scope for your furloughed staff to make calls to current donors and funders, as a goodwill action?

I'm not sure they have thought this through properly for charities (and neither had I, until your post :greengrin)

[jacomo]

Neil Doncaster says the position regarding the top flight is ‘particularly complicated’.

It’s not though. Celtc are champions because no one can realistically catch them, and Hearts are bottom no matter how you calculate it.
It’s just bleating from the Huns and diet Huns that is causing an issue.

It’s a shame Hearts couldn’t look past their own self-serving agenda at a time of crisis, but there we are. I think most of us realised that their desperate attempts to make McCrae’s battalion the core of their brand was a cover for their moral deficiencies rather than evidence that they are in any way special.

[Since452]

Jambos Kickback reckon we'll vote to keep Hearts up because we'd lose two home games against them. Swap Hearts for Dundee United and we'd probably lose 4k max away fans over those two games. Probably less than £200k. We'll be just fine thanks.

[Since90+2]

Hahahahaha. Loving it.

[Peevemor]

Jambos Kickback reckon we'll vote to keep Hearts up because we'd lose two home games against them. Swap Hearts for Dundee United and we'd probably lose 4k max away fans over those two games. Probably less than £200k. We'll be just fine thanks.

I notice one clown with over 30k posts



Looks like a stitch up.


There you go vote on it


If you want it to finish it on average points, no play offs


We might consider reconstruction


But that's another vote you need 75% for


So onus handed neatly over to the clubs, better have good lawyers for this, otherwise its down to the clubs to recognize that this is a change in the rules, with self preservation top of the agenda, looks like Championship football next season.


I think I am done with football to be honest


Onus handed neatly over to the clubs? Who does he think should decide?

[we are hibs]

Biggest glass curtain in the championship.

[nonshinyfinish]

I notice one clown with over 30k posts




Onus handed neatly over to the clubs? Who does he think should decide?

"self preservation top of the agenda" :hilarious

He's actually bang on there, just not in the way he means…

[Kato]

I notice one clown with over 30k posts




Onus handed neatly over to the clubs? Who does he think should decide?

Hearts fans of course.


He's "done with football" anyway. :bye:

[Since452]

Got to say in a world full of doom and gloom this has cheered me up no end.

The Heart and Soul of the Championship

[Peevemor]

There's another one going radio about Hamilton not having to play a play-off.

Play-offs = matches.

Matches = things we're not allowed to do.

Is there something complicated in there that I'm not seeing?

[weecounty hibby]

Hearts fans of course.


He's "done with football" anyway. :bye:

That happened when he chose to follow the tarts!!

[Ozyhibby]

Neil Doncaster says the position regarding the top flight is ‘particularly complicated’.

It’s not though. Celtc are champions because no one can realistically catch them, and Hearts are bottom no matter how you calculate it.
It’s just bleating from the Huns and diet Huns that is causing an issue.

It’s a shame Hearts couldn’t look past their own self-serving agenda at a time of crisis, but there we are. I think most of us realised that their desperate attempts to make McCrae’s battalion the core of their brand was a cover for their moral deficiencies rather than evidence that they are in any way special.

He’s not saying the positions are complicated because it’s actually less complicated than Patrick and they are relegating them. He is saying it’s complicated because they have to work with UEFA before calling it. When they do call it though, Hearts will be down.


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[Kato]

If Hibs were in this position who would honestly being saying to themselves, "Yip, we deserve to go down"? I'm sure I would. There might be a few with an outside hope of reconstruction, not me but I'm sure most of us would be resigned to the fact that over the season, over the calendar year, by points gained and by average points gained relegation is what is deserved.


I'm sure a lot of Hearts fans are the same but Hats off to the bams on Kickback and the Loons threatening legal action on their board who cannot accept the footballing reality that their performances where just not good enough. Great entertainment. I wonder if the documentary will show any kind private meetings whereby we get a glimpse into the mind-set at the moment. A bunch of King Canutes.

[Brightside]

Jambos Kickback reckon we'll vote to keep Hearts up because we'd lose two home games against them. Swap Hearts for Dundee United and we'd probably lose 4k max away fans over those two games. Probably less than £200k. We'll be just fine thanks.

Hibs would vote to keep them up.... not that it will come to that. Hibs as a company benefit from having them in the league

[Bostonhibby]

Biggest glass curtain in the championship.Arbroath view lounge as well, similar view of Arbroath as it had of the castle.

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[JohnMcM]

A personal message from me to all gods and all other things holy.

​
Please do not let me die yet.

I want to live long enough to find out what is said on Kickback as they go down, realise they are going into administration whilst in the Championship and get a 15 point deduction that puts them down another level.

Then you can have my wretched soul because I'll die laughing anyway.:greengrin

[Peevemor]

Here's another zoomer


I will happily donate money if it means mounting a huge court case against the SPFL if there is an attempt to relegate us. we should be trying to bankrupt the league if this happens.

If it does happen we should ban away fans completely when we return to the SPL for any teams that vote for us to go down. There should also be a refusal to attend away matches from all Hearts fans.


Come on guys, it's someone from on here isn't it?

[Joe6-2]

That's what annoys me - they'll forever say they were cheated into relegation, despite being the worst team in the league for the last year.

Who cares tho?
We all know different!

[Sammy7nil]

Jambos Kickback reckon we'll vote to keep Hearts up because we'd lose two home games against them. Swap Hearts for Dundee United and we'd probably lose 4k max away fans over those two games. Probably less than £200k. We'll be just fine thanks.

TBF with hospitality and live tv it is worth far more than £200k

[Ozyhibby]

Hibs would vote to keep them up.... not that it will come to that. Hibs as a company benefit from having them in the league

Do we? Having them with their bigger budget competing with us for Euro spots next season? Does it benefit us to have reconstruction to save them? Sharing league tv money with an extra two teams?


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[Peevemor]

TBF with hospitality and live tv it is worth far more than £200k

I don't think clubs get extra money for live matches. That was binned years ago.

[Ozyhibby]

TBF with hospitality and live tv it is worth far more than £200k

We don’t get any extra tv money for the derby.


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[The 90+2]

TBF with hospitality and live tv it is worth far more than £200k

If the club votes to relegate them then we should be doing everything in our power to sell out the stadium when Dundee Utd come to play to recover any loss.

[Joe6-2]

Neil Doncaster says the position regarding the top flight is ‘particularly complicated’.

It’s not though. Celtc are champions because no one can realistically catch them, and Hearts are bottom no matter how you calculate it.
It’s just bleating from the Huns and diet Huns that is causing an issue.

It’s a shame Hearts couldn’t look past their own self-serving agenda at a time of crisis, but there we are. I think most of us realised that their desperate attempts to make McCrae’s battalion the core of their brand was a cover for their moral deficiencies rather than evidence that they are in any way special.

Absolute nonsense from Doncaster

[nonshinyfinish]

Do we? Having them with their bigger budget competing with us for Euro spots next season? Does it benefit us to have reconstruction to save them? Sharing league tv money with an extra two teams?


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The club would also have to balance any financial benefit against the supporter goodwill lost if they are seen to help Hearts wriggle out of relegation.

[Springbank]

If the club votes to relegate them then we should be doing everything in our power to sell out the stadium when Dundee Utd come to play to recover any loss.

100% this.

Post of the day

[Del Boy]

If hibs vote against I’d be disgusted

[Sammy7nil]

I don't think clubs get extra money for live matches. That was binned years ago.


We don’t get any extra tv money for the derby.


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Well there you go learn something new everyday. Live games must have an impact attendances at likes St Mirren, Killie etc but all for the greater good of the whole league :greengrin

[Since90+2]

Hibs won't vote against it. Nothing to do with Hearts the club are just smart enough to realise the league needs called to allow us to move forward.

[Col2]

Our club isn’t voting to relegate them. It’s got two choices. Vote null and void or call it. Null and void is the option not on club has supported other than Rangers. Even Budge has said she was against it and would rather have an extended league.

The financial implications of voiding a season are massive and give open season to sponsor and season ticket legal refund requests. Won’t happen.

[Hibernianinc]

Hibs would vote to keep them up.... not that it will come to that. Hibs as a company benefit from having them in the league

Yep, it can't come to it.

The vote is to end the season (subject to UEFA approval). If Hibs vote against it, they're basically giving up any say on how this plays out, and risking the new TV deal cash-bonanza for next season.

This will be a 10-2 in favour vote.

Delighted.

[Newry Hibs]

That's what annoys me - they'll forever say they were cheated into relegation, despite being the worst team in the league for the last year.

Just agree with them - it will wind them up even more.

[Peevemor]

And another one.


In which case lets hope we can get an injunction delaying payment and tie this up in the Legal System. Hopefully a couple of the clubs die whilst waiting.

Careful what you wish for bawjaws!

[Kato]

That's what annoys me - they'll forever say they were cheated into relegation, despite being the worst team in the league for the last year.Makes it all the funnier for me. The Calmiero Effect.

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[KdyHby]

To be played at 8pm tonight : https://youtu.be/8Nzy1cfnKh4

[Hibeesmad]

Just get Hearts relegated now.

[weecounty hibby]

And another one.



Careful what you wish for mate.
What a fud but sadly typical of them. His club is on continual life support. Bailed out by Benny Factor to the tune of millions. Delusional on the extreme

[murray26]

So it pretty much looks like Hearts are going down ( Karma’s a bitch )
No way we’re going to get the season finished and I don’t see the full fat Huns having much appetite to return to a near Certain Celtic title win.. should give us the edge when we play the SC semifinals

[Leith Green]

Id far rather see them relegated on the pitch. That would piss their supporters into not going to games and cancelling the direct debits.. Their club will stir it up into a massive injustice and galvanise their support if its just stopped now.

[Peevemor]

If they force relegation on us we should quit the SPFL for the English Northern League and work our way up from there.

Great plan mastermind. That'll show us!

[Lee Marvin]

Id far rather see them relegated on the pitch. That would piss their supporters into not going to games and cancelling the direct debits.. Their club will stir it up into a massive injustice and galvanise their support if its just stopped now.

I thought this originally. However, once the dust settles, i now believe that the anger towards budge/levein will be insane.

Its absolutely magic how badly Budget has screwed up the last 4 years

[SQHib]

So it pretty much looks like Hearts are going down ( Karma’s a bitch )
No way we’re going to get the season finished and I don’t see the full fat Huns having much appetite to return to a near Certain Celtic title win.. should give us the edge when we play the SC semifinals

Reckon a 13 team top league next season will be the outcome - you know how beyond lucky they are

[Hibs90]

if based on average points hibs miss out on top 6 place in standing and less prize money don't know they feel about that

:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin


Was obvious since day 1 they would be totally focused on finding some way to make sure Hearts go down, and making up some sham rules to make it seem fair.

:greengrin


Relegate us before season end, here's your bill for £10m.


**** it. £100m. Bankrupt them.

:greengrin



Hearts fans must to do everything in our limited power to hit every club in the pocket should this go through. Even if it’s only a token gesture

:greengrin

[Sammy7nil]

It is either a full on seethe or clutching at straws over on kickback no acceptance they are down. :greengrin

[Thief]

Oh the irony! A few of them keep using the word integrity!!

I’ll leave Mike Tyson to deliver the knock out blow with his quote,

“If 'Queen Ann' has lawyers in the same mold as the builders and staff she appoints, we'll probably end up getting docked points in the Championship.

That stupid thick bitch has destroyed us.”


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Here's another zoomer



Come on guys, it's someone from on here isn't it?



so, not just any kind of court case,it has to be a"Huge" court case, size really is important to them, when will they twig that it's their obsession with being 'big' and 'huge' that's taking them down a league...but at least they will have the biggest unfinished main stand in scottish football,and probably the largest debts as well, fame at last for the sparryheids

[Since452]

Hearts fan I know (not a friend) was making a flag which read "Coronavirus is a Jambo". Karma looks to have kicked the **** right in the balls

[lord bunberry]

The temperature in Edinburgh has just risen by a couple of degrees, it must from the angry red faces furiously tapping keyboards threatening legal action that won’t ever happen. You can feel the rage in the air. :greengrin

[lord bunberry]

Hearts fan I know (not a friend) was making a flag which read "Coronavirus is a Jambo". Karma looks to have kicked the **** right in the balls
He can put it next to his 1986 league winners flag.

[The 90+2]

Great plan mastermind. That'll show us!

😂😂😂😂😂

[tamig]

Don't t disagree with anything apart from in sure UEFA said what happens with individual countries leugues is their decision.
Yes the are fronting up about European cups but if as expected we finish the leuges as they are then I doubt it will be a problem.

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You also have the scenario where the individual associations could come together and stand firm. If they all decide to end the leagues now they’ll have called UEFA’s bluff. UEFA would have no option but to hold their competitions based on the finishing positions from the curtailed season. Unless they keep the same teams from this season in next year’s competitions.

[Peevemor]

so, not just any kind of court case,it has to be a"Huge" court case, size really is important to them, when will they twig that it's their obsession with being 'big' and 'huge' that's taking them down a league...but at least they will have the biggest unfinished main stand in scottish football,and probably the largest debts as well, fame at last for the sparryheids

This from the same sparryheid


I would hope that Ann is speaking to our lawyers as we speak and we are making clear to any clubs desperate for fast cash, that our response will be to press for an injunction tying up these funds with immediate effect.

The SPFL is a private corporation, owned by the 42 member clubs who are all shareholders and have a vote.

We're currently in the middle of a global health crisis and the chances are that 37-38 of the clubs will vote to end the season now to enable everyone to prepare as well as possible for next season (whenever that may be).

Where are these muppets getting their ideas of injunctions and epic court battles? I can understand why they're upset. I would be too. But they have serious delusions of grandeur.

In France there's an expression "péter plus haut que ton cul", meaning "to fart higher than your arse" - I can't help but think of them whenever I hear it.

[weecounty hibby]

Hearts fan I know (not a friend) was making a flag which read "Coronavirus is a Jambo". Karma looks to have kicked the **** right in the balls

What a total bellend! Imagine doing something like that. They really are the most delusional, least self aware bunch of pond life on the planet.

[A Hi-Bee]

Are the hertz down yet, remember it was said the hertz were irrelevant, well they are even more irrelevant now, relegate the bassa’s.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[weecounty hibby]

This from the same sparryheid



The SPFL is a private corporation, owned by the 42 member clubs who are all shareholders and have a vote.

We're currently in the middle of a global health crisis and the chances are that 37-38 of the clubs will vote to end the season now to enable everyone to prepare as well as possible for next season (whenever that may be).

Where are these muppets getting their ideas of injunctions and epic court battles? I can understand why they're upset. I would be too. But they have serious delusions of grandeur.

In France there's an expression "péter plus haut que ton cul", meaning "to fart higher than your arse" - I can't help but think of them whenever I hear it.

See my reply above, the most delusional and least self aware bunch ever.

[Craig_in_Prague]

The temperature in Edinburgh has just risen by a couple of degrees, it must from the angry red faces furiously tapping keyboards threatening legal action that won’t ever happen. You can feel the rage in the air. :greengrin

Haha,
Though the red faces are not coz they're angry.

[weecounty hibby]

Are the hertz down yet, remember it was said the hertz were irrelevant, well they are even more irrelevant now, relegate the bassa’s.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup:
I think you'll find they said we were irrelevant! I seem to remember them saying that we were no longer their rivals. They were right, now it's Arbroath and Alloa. GIRFUY

[Aldoo]

If the club votes to relegate them then we should be doing everything in our power to sell out the stadium when Dundee Utd come to play to recover any loss.

Is there not also the scenario though that ithey call as it is now and declare hearts as relegated but announce immediate reconstruction to the league that solves the two problems of declaring the league finished but not punishing teams that didn’t get the chance to get out the hole they were in. So Celtic champs, Dundee Utd/A.N. Other up and hearts bottom but saved by reconstruction??

[lord bunberry]

Arbroath away in January will be a great trip. When I say great I mean ****, really really ****. :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

Is there not also the scenario though that ithey call as it is now and declare hearts as relegated but announce immediate reconstruction to the league that solves the two problems of declaring the league finished but not punishing teams that didn’t get the chance to get out the hole they were in. So Celtic champs, Dundee Utd/A.N. Other up and hearts bottom but saved by reconstruction??

For reconstruction they need 11 of the 12 premier clubs to vote in favour. They also need 75% of the other leagues clubs to vote in favour. Those a challenging numbers for them to achieve.


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[Jones28]

Agreed - although the worst impact is on Partick: 1 point behind with a game in hand. Has to be average points to make it fairer.

Also a bit tight on Falkirk.

Anything that pisses Falkirk off is absolutely kosher imo

[A Hi-Bee]

I think you'll find they said we were irrelevant! I seem to remember them saying that we were no longer their rivals. They were right, now it's Arbroath and Alloa. GIRFUY

i was refering to Neil Lennon's comments on them, much more relevant than any comment from them hertz kunts

[JohnMcM]

Is there not also the scenario though that ithey call as it is now and declare hearts as relegated but announce immediate reconstruction to the league that solves the two problems of declaring the league finished but not punishing teams that didn’t get the chance to get out the hole they were in. So Celtic champs, Dundee Utd/A.N. Other up and hearts bottom but saved by reconstruction??


No! Please no! :confused:

[Aldoo]

For reconstruction they need 11 of the 12 premier clubs to vote in favour. They also need 75% of the other leagues clubs to vote in favour. Those a challenging numbers for them to achieve.


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Thanks. I’d given up on Hibs football wise dishing out lashings of karma to them so if they went down in this fashion would be more than pleasing to say the least.

[Jones28]

No! Please no! :confused:

That can’t happen without 11/12 clubs voting in favour.

[JohnMcM]

That can’t happen without 11/12 clubs voting in favour.

:greengrin

[Peevemor]

Crikey!


If the SPFL clubs are having a vote on concluding the season as it stands, I don't think they have enough to send us down.

I can't see Rangers, Hearts, St Johnstone and a Motherwell, Livi or Killie voting for it.


Rangers & Hearts OK.

But the rest? Motherwell, Livi & St Johnston aren't going to vote for 3rd, 4th & 6th place respectively? Killie might finish 7th or 9th, but probably 8th where they are just now.

Who wires these people up?

[JohnM1875]

Crikey!



Rangers & Hearts OK.

But the rest? Motherwell, Livi & St Johnston aren't going to vote for 3rd, 4th & 6th place respectively? Killie might finish 7th or 9th, but probably 8th where they are just now.

Who wires these people up?

I saw that as well! Absolutely astonishing claim! Only clubs who will vote against it will be them and Rangers.

[Since452]

Is administration then liquidation too much to hope for for those cretins as well as relegation or is that just being greedy?

[Since90+2]

Is administration then liquidation too much to hope for for those cretins as well as relegation or is that just being greedy?

They won't be liquidated. If they are relegated then administration is a genuine possibility.

[Heisenberg]

SPFL LATEST

@RangersFC say it would be “abhorrent if certain clubs are unfairly relegated if current @spfl proposals are implemented”

Rangers maintain that the season should be decided over 38 games

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Surprised to see the Huns sticking together.

[cabbageandribs1875]

This from the same sparryheid
.


i've never even looked at that site for easily 10+ years but in these troubling times it's maybe worth having a wee sketch just for the comedy value 😀


then again, i'l maybe just stick to the updates on here :)

[Since452]

The only thing that could make this worse for Hearts is if the EPL follow suit. Aston Villa are relegated and McGinn is sold for 30/40 million and Hibs get a very large payday. Can almost taste their dispair

[Kato]

Where are these muppets getting their ideas of injunctions and epic court battles?

Errm, from the tiny, overindulged, self-important organs that they pass off to normal humans as brains?

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[Causewayside PR]

Kickback is on meltdown. Blaming everyone but themselves.

Best comments are:
1. Take the SPFL to the cleaners legally and delay as long as we can
2. Given Hibs will move down one place and lose price money surely they will vote against that.

Relegation is coming....😂😂😂

Wonder about Hibs. Will we be placed 6th or 7th??? St Johnstone 1 point behind and points average 1.24. Not sure of any historic examples but could they finish the season on something .24 points? Not sure how significant the financial hit is between finishing 6th or 7th?

Don't think any of the above will make any difference to how Hibs vote though!

[we are hibs]

Hearts and Rangers are 2 cheeks of the same arse both on and off the park. They both know they are fighting a losing battle.

[Dashing Bob S]

Arbroath away in January will be a great trip. When I say great I mean ****, really really ****. :greengrin

The maroon derby

[truehibernian]

SPFL LATEST

@RangersFC say it would be “abhorrent if certain clubs are unfairly relegated if current @spfl proposals are implemented”

Rangers maintain that the season should be decided over 38 games

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Surprised to see the Huns sticking together.

Whereas @RestofScottishFootballFC tell Sky Sports and others listening that The Rangers managed to lose the title after only 30 games by being utter Lilian Gish since January 👍

[Brummie_Hibs]

Hearts and Rangers are 2 cheeks of the same arse both on and off the park. They both know they are fighting a losing battle.
No, Celtic and Rangers are the 2 cheeks of the same arse. Hearts are the brown hole between those cheeks.

[cocteautwin]

Shedding a tear on my Bulgarian balcony as we speak. Actually I’m in Japan but I’m printing off a Bulgarian flag so I can pretend.

[Barney McGrew]

SPFL LATEST

@RangersFC say it would be “abhorrent if certain clubs are unfairly relegated if current @spfl proposals are implemented”

Rangers maintain that the season should be decided over 38 games

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Surprised to see the Huns sticking together.

Handshakes ahoy

[Bostonhibby]

This from the same sparryheid



The SPFL is a private corporation, owned by the 42 member clubs who are all shareholders and have a vote.

We're currently in the middle of a global health crisis and the chances are that 37-38 of the clubs will vote to end the season now to enable everyone to prepare as well as possible for next season (whenever that may be).

Where are these muppets getting their ideas of injunctions and epic court battles? I can understand why they're upset. I would be too. But they have serious delusions of grandeur.

In France there's an expression "péter plus haut que ton cul", meaning "to fart higher than your arse" - I can't help but think of them whenever I hear it.I did wonder if they've considered whether is possible to sue themselves or not? The members, one of which are the maroon balloons, may be liable jointly and severally.

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[A Hi-Bee]

More crap and desperation from joel skeed (marks) at the EEN

"If the resolution is passed and the Championship, League 1 and League 2 are terminated then it sets a precedent Hearts won’t like. If the SPFL determine that the top-flight is not going to be finished then Hearts could be relegated. At which point legal advice would likely be sought, lawyers involved and more complexity.

That being said, the statement also mentioned that league reconstruction could be discussed ahead of next season which is an avenue in which the club could remain in the top flight.
In short, Hearts are not relegated but a step towards that prospect has been taken by the SPFL."

:thumbsup:

[Ricky Bobby]

SPFL LATEST

@RangersFC say it would be “abhorrent if certain clubs are unfairly relegated if current @spfl proposals are implemented”

Rangers maintain that the season should be decided over 38 games

More on @SkySportsNews and skysports.com


Surprised to see the Huns sticking together.

Rangers with a predictable statement.
Not happy with the proposed outcome, but offering no alternative other than play all games. An option which is plainly now unfeasible.
Truly the statement Champions again this season.

[Ozyhibby]

More crap and desperation from joel skeed (marks) at the EEN

"If the resolution is passed and the Championship, League 1 and League 2 are terminated then it sets a precedent Hearts won’t like. If the SPFL determine that the top-flight is not going to be finished then Hearts could be relegated. At which point legal advice would likely be sought, lawyers involved and more complexity.

That being said, the statement also mentioned that league reconstruction could be discussed ahead of next season which is an avenue in which the club could remain in the top flight.
In short, Hearts are not relegated but a step towards that prospect has been taken by the SPFL."

:thumbsup:

I’m looking forward to his ‘5 things we learned about Hearts defeat from Arbroath’ articles next season.[emoji23]


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[04Sauzee]

I’m looking forward to his ‘5 things we learned about Hearts defeat from Arbroath’ articles next season.[emoji23]


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🤣😂

[mjhibby]

Wonder about Hibs. Will we be placed 6th or 7th??? St Johnstone 1 point behind and points average 1.24. Not sure of any historic examples but could they finish the season on something .24 points? Not sure how significant the financial hit is between finishing 6th or 7th?

Don't think any of the above will make any difference to how Hibs vote though!

The difference in money is £130,000 between 6th and 7th. £1.56m for 6th and £1.43m for 7th.

[jacomo]

Our club isn’t voting to relegate them. It’s got two choices. Vote null and void or call it. Null and void is the option not on club has supported other than Rangers. Even Budge has said she was against it and would rather have an extended league.

The financial implications of voiding a season are massive and give open season to sponsor and season ticket legal refund requests. Won’t happen.


The Rangers don’t support any option it seems to me, other than demanding the league be completed in front of full stadia again. Which is like asking for the moon on a stick.

[jacomo]

SPFL LATEST

@RangersFC say it would be “abhorrent if certain clubs are unfairly relegated if current @spfl proposals are implemented”

Rangers maintain that the season should be decided over 38 games

More on @SkySportsNews and skysports.com


Surprised to see the Huns sticking together.


What is abhorrent is that Zombie club of bigotry and hatred based in Govan.

They are behaving like 3 years olds who’ve had too much sugar and missed their afternoon nap.

[Rumble de Thump]

If the league is completed with all games played then Sevco will end up even further behind Celtic, but they have to put on their wee pantomime for their pathetic fans.

[sean04]

The league will eventually get called. The lockdown could be another 5/6 weeks if we’re lucky. Players will have to have another pre season and there’s also the difficult obstacle of players contracts running out on 1st June

[ancient hibee]

The difference in money is £130,000 between 6th and 7th. £1.56m for 6th and £1.43m for 7th.

That was last season.This season will be different and dependent on the deal the league strikes with broadcasters for the unfinished season.

[munchar]

More crap and desperation from joel skeed (marks) at the EEN

"If the resolution is passed and the Championship, League 1 and League 2 are terminated then it sets a precedent Hearts won’t like. If the SPFL determine that the top-flight is not going to be finished then Hearts could be relegated. At which point legal advice would likely be sought, lawyers involved and more complexity.

That being said, the statement also mentioned that league reconstruction could be discussed ahead of next season which is an avenue in which the club could remain in the top flight.
In short, Hearts are not relegated but a step towards that prospect has been taken by the SPFL."

:thumbsup:

Am I missing something? If all leagues finish as it stands, why do we need to vote for reconstruction? Is it just to save Hearts? It’s never been in the agenda until now. Will they also save all relegated teams in the other divisions then? Only fair?

[Kojock]

Great plan mastermind. That'll show us!

One numpty suggesting that the could merge with Bury and take their place in the EFL 1. Bury Hearts has a certain ring to it 😂

[ancient hibee]

Am I missing something? If all leagues finish as it stands, why do we need to vote for reconstruction? Is it just to save Hearts? It’s never been in the agenda until now. Will they also save all relegated teams in the other divisions then? Only fair?

Yes you’re missing something.:greengrin It’s to make all the clubs being relegated or not promoted feel that something might happen(it won’t).

[Hibernianinc]

Anyone know what's the vote requirement for reconstruction to go ahead?

11/12 in Premiership,
9/10 in the others,
some % (75?)
or another random figure?

:confused:

[brog]

SPFL LATEST

@RangersFC say it would be “abhorrent if certain clubs are unfairly relegated if current @spfl proposals are implemented”

Rangers maintain that the season should be decided over 38 games

More on @SkySportsNews and skysports.com


Surprised to see the Huns sticking together.

Absolutely pathetic. Hiding behind the Hawrts just to further their own agenda.

[Tambo]

This post did make me chuckle.

If*we are voted down then we should hit the other 11 clubs where*it hurts and make sure that they never receive the maroon pound again.*
*

Give it to the smaller clubs in the football league on our journey back.*
*

When Aberdeen, Hibs, St Mirren and Motherwell all go out of business and they regret relegating us, hell*mend them!!

*

Naismith, Walker, Soutar, Berra, Uche etc should all tell the SFA to bolt when the next Scotland squad is*announced!

[Paul1642]

This post did make me chuckle.

If*we are voted down then we should hit the other 11 clubs where*it hurts and make sure that they never receive the maroon pound again.*
*

Give it to the smaller clubs in the football league on our journey back.*
*

When Aberdeen, Hibs, St Mirren and Motherwell all go out of business and they regret relegating us, hell*mend them!!

*

Naismith, Walker, Soutar, Berra, Uche etc should all tell the SFA to bolt when the next Scotland squad is*announced!

Why would Berra care 😂 And Uche....?

[Kojock]

This post did make me chuckle.

If*we are voted down then we should hit the other 11 clubs where*it hurts and make sure that they never receive the maroon pound again.*
*

Give it to the smaller clubs in the football league on our journey back.*
*

When Aberdeen, Hibs, St Mirren and Motherwell all go out of business and they regret relegating us, hell*mend them!!

*

Naismith, Walker, Soutar, Berra, Uche etc should all tell the SFA to bolt when the next Scotland squad is*announced!

Here’s another belter

I think all the teams that are being disadvantaged (us, Rangers, Dundee, Inverness etc) should just form a splinter league. I’m sure Partick and Dundee etc would financially lap up the idea of playing us and Rangers 4 times a season.

[JohnM1875]

From the Guardian. Lovely stuff;

"The Scottish Professional Football League aims to crown Celtic as champions and relegate Heart of Midlothian after 23 April, the earliest date Uefa is willing to accept for the abandonment of top divisions.A meeting between the league’s board and clubs on Wednesday resulted in the recommendation of a resolution for a vote in each of the four divisions on whether to end their season as it stands, with places allocated on an average points-per-game basis.

Nine of the 12 Premiership clubs would need to vote in favour, and the SPFL, having canvassed opinion, is understood to be fully confident of it passing. Votes will be collated before the start of next week.

A subsequent delay in abandoning the top-flight campaign would then be expected in order to follow Uefa guidance. The European game’s governing body has warned of possible restrictions (https://viewer.gutools.co.uk/football/2020/apr/03/clubs-risk-champions-league-exclusion-if-seasons-abandoned-prematurely-uefa) to Champions League and Europa League entry if member associations abandon seasons prematurely. The SPFL does not regard that as a serious risk but is anxious not to antagonise Uefa.

The Hearts owner, Ann Budge, has spoken of legal action should the league demote her club, who are four points adrift with eight games to play. Rangers have publicly spoken out against any early finish to the campaign and did so again on Wednesday afternoon.

“It is abhorrent that certain clubs could be unfairly relegated if the current SPFL proposals were implemented,” read an Ibrox statement, which added: “The consequences of forcing through change without due care and attention will have severe consequences for the Scottish game.”
Rangers insist “the 2019-20 season is only complete when all 38 games have been played to a finish”.

Under the average-points plan, only Hibernian and St Johnstone – currently sixth and seventh respectively – would change places.
Dundee United will be promoted to Scotland’s top division if Championship clubs pass their element of the resolution. That element may hold the key to the SPFL’s plans, with several clubs considering their options. It also irked Championship boards that the league issued a statement as their occasionally feisty round of talks were ongoing.

The bottom two divisions are expected to back an immediate end to their seasons, with 15 from 20 needing to agree in a combined vote. Brechin City, otherwise consigned to a play-off to save their spot in League Two, would be saved.

One glimmer of hope for Hearts - and Partick Thistle, who would be relegated from the Championship - came in an SPFL statement. “If the resolution is approved, the SPFL has also committed to consulting with clubs over the possibility of league restructuring ahead of season 2020-21,” it read. That prospect, primarily of a 14-team Premiership as mooted by Budge on Wednesday, is currently viewed by insiders as remote.
Numerous clubs across Scotland have been keen for the season to be defined so as to release prize money, issued on the basis of placings.
Neil Doncaster, the league’s chief executive, said: “We are keen to work with Uefa and remain in discussion with them over the situation in Scotland. The quicker we reach a final position the better.”

Clubs were informed of a necessity to start the 2020-21 Premiership season on the first Saturday in August, as part of Sky Sports’ new and exclusive live television deal. That campaign has therefore been granted priority, even though there is no guarantee of football in early August.
The Scottish FA hopes to complete the 2019-20 Scottish Cup, currently at the semi-final phase, possibly as the opening games of “next” season.

Aberdeen, fourth in the Premiership, would have a possible route to the Europa League only via the cup but it is understood they could instead be put forward by the Scottish FA on the basis of league position"

[Paul1642]

Here’s another belter

I think all the teams that are being disadvantaged (us, Rangers, Dundee, Inverness etc) should just form a splinter league. I’m sure Partick and Dundee etc would financially lap up the idea of playing us and Rangers 4 times a season.

They really are on a different level of self over importance

[munchar]

Absolutely pathetic. Hiding behind the Hawrts just to further their own agenda.

The Rangers don’t want season called now, but want prize money paid now? How can you pay out when league places aren’t finalised? I’m in favour of finishing as possible, if not you have to finish as it is so as clubs can be paid prize money to help cash flow, & prepare for next season.

[Keith_M]

Wonder about Hibs. Will we be placed 6th or 7th??? St Johnstone 1 point behind and points average 1.24. Not sure of any historic examples but could they finish the season on something .24 points? Not sure how significant the financial hit is between finishing 6th or 7th?

Don't think any of the above will make any difference to how Hibs vote though!



I don't mind Hibs finishing 7th, it it means the Cheating Yams get relegated.

[hibeerealist]

R
100% this.

Post of the day

That I think is down to Hibs, if we are 3rd bottom at the time - no chance, third top then entirely possible - over to you Hibs.

[Ozyhibby]

Loving this post.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/ae8b4082447d778a5d8305ab52cf8c6e.jpg
Bit worried about that next Scotland squad though.[emoji51][emoji23]


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[The 90+2]

Loving this post.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/ae8b4082447d778a5d8305ab52cf8c6e.jpg
Bit worried about that next Scotland squad though.[emoji51][emoji23]


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****in he’ll that’s a belter. Must be a wind up.

[Since452]

Loving this post.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/ae8b4082447d778a5d8305ab52cf8c6e.jpg
Bit worried about that next Scotland squad though.[emoji51][emoji23]


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The maroon pound? Ffs. They're getting more like their big brothers every day. Have they seen some of their away attendances recently? At least their big brothers can sell out an away derby.

[adhibs]

Loving this post.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/ae8b4082447d778a5d8305ab52cf8c6e.jpg
Bit worried about that next Scotland squad though.[emoji51][emoji23]


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Berra, walker and uche 😂

[Juniper Greens]

Wouldn't surprise me if Anderson5 is Banderson from the paper. Same standard of writing and fact finding with Uche's place of birth!

[grunt]

The maroon pound? Ffs. Their getting more like their big brothers every day. Have they seen some of their away attendances recently? At least their big brothers can sell out an away derby.Laughed at this post on JKB:


Don't attend away games these days but if I did, I would stop.

[Rumble de Thump]

I don't attend Hearts games but if I did I would stop. Who in their right mind would pay to watch that shower play 'football'?

[04Sauzee]

Laughed at this post on JKB:

I don't go to away games now but if I did I'd stop 🤣

[bingo70]

I feel a bit conflicted with all that’s going on with Hearts just now.

Initially, and a big part me still does, want them to get relegated on merit, which they undoubtedly would have done.

On the flip side though I’m really really enjoying the squirming and outrage they’re all showing.

This is almost like a longer more drawn out suffering for them and it’s brilliant.

Really enjoying this end of season show, hope it has a happy ending.

[Keith_M]

Anybody ever seen this mystic Maroon Pound?


:dunno:

[bob12345]

You can.

The Government website I posted is explicit about that.

It explicitly says they cannot do anything which is deemed as providing a service to the employer. It’s directed at encouraging people to volunteer for other organisations.

[HoboHarry]

23164

Stole this from Phil Mac. Not Hearts but same thing applies :greengrin

[Since90+2]

Hearts with their wee stadium will be in the wee league next season.

Absolutely fantastic news.

[Brooster]

TBF with hospitality and live tv it is worth far more than £200k

Clubs dont get extra for live games and Hibs hospitality is sold out every game these days. Them going down has little financial impact on us.

[Brightside]

Berra, walker and uche 😂

Hes very cleary a Hibs fan. There are loads of us on there.

[Since90+2]

I see Hearts are starting with the "will never visit that ground again and starve them of cash" chat.

If that threat didn't work with Rangers, who have a support about 5 times as big as hearts , it's certainly not going to work for wee Hearts.

This is going to very tough on Hearts and their supporters. Can genuinely see financial trouble ahead for them.

[Since452]

Hearts boycotting away grounds if they're ever promoted. So that'll be one man visiting instead of one man and his dog then?

[Kato]

Anybody ever seen this mystic Maroon Pound?


:dunno:They come in the biggliest notes.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/05dd6572c3be048138d6103af091cc23.jpg

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[The 90+2]

I see Hearts are starting with the "will never visit that ground again and starve them of cash" chat.

If that threat didn't work with Rangers, who have a support about 5 times as big as hearts , it's certainly not going to work for wee Hearts.

This is going to very tough on Hearts and their supporters. Can genuinely see financial trouble ahead for them.

Lavvvv it 😁

[Onion]

Loving this post.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/ae8b4082447d778a5d8305ab52cf8c6e.jpg
Bit worried about that next Scotland squad though.[emoji51][emoji23]


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Strangely, exactly what the Huns said about the "blue" pound and we all know how that turned out :greengrin

Beyond parody, they truly deserve their place in the lower leagues. They've worked so hard to earn that place and should not be denied. This is a much more entertaining end to the season that we could have imagined :thumbsup: The Huns and Hearts full of bitterness. In a changing world, it's good to know somethings are constant :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Anybody ever seen this mystic Maroon Pound?


:dunno:

It's really more of a pink pound.

[Onion]

Hearts boycotting away grounds if they're ever promoted. So that'll be one man visiting instead of one man and his dog then?

This just gets better and better. Can't wait until the final nail is hammered in the season and the "injustice" of the worst team in the Prem BY A DISTANCE being unceremoniously banished to the lower leagues.

Think they've got bigger problems that worrying about boycotts. They might not have a team in a few month's time.

[jacomo]

The maroon pound? Ffs. They're getting more like their big brothers every day. Have they seen some of their away attendances recently? At least their big brothers can sell out an away derby.


How much is a maroon pound worth? Struggling to know how to feel about this until I know the exchange rate.

[Joe6-2]

This post did make me chuckle.

If*we are voted down then we should hit the other 11 clubs where*it hurts and make sure that they never receive the maroon pound again.*
*

Give it to the smaller clubs in the football league on our journey back.*
*

When Aberdeen, Hibs, St Mirren and Motherwell all go out of business and they regret relegating us, hell*mend them!!

*

Naismith, Walker, Soutar, Berra, Uche etc should all tell the SFA to bolt when the next Scotland squad is*announced!

😂😂😂😂😂

[Onion]

Bottom line is .. this season might well come down to the recruitment of 2 managers ; Ross and Stendal.

They will blame others, but if Hearts get relegated, it will have been one of the most calamitous appointments in their recent history.

[Peevemor]

I don't go to away games now but if I did I'd stop [emoji1787]That's like the Billy Connolly line "If I had a pair of trousers like that, I wouldnae f****n' wear them!"

[Joe6-2]

They come in the biggliest notes.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/05dd6572c3be048138d6103af091cc23.jpg

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😂😂😂

[Peevemor]

Bottom line is .. this season might well come down to the recruitment of 2 managers ; Ross and Stendal.

They will blame others, but if Hearts get relegated, it will have been one of the most calamitous appointments in their recent history.It's interesting to see a few of them saying on JKB that they'll be cancelling their FOH donations - out of disgust with the league you understand, no other reason.

[tamig]

I saw that as well! Absolutely astonishing claim! Only clubs who will vote against it will be them and Rangers.

Does anyone over there ever challenge the views of these clearly brilliant minds?

[munchar]

I feel a bit conflicted with all that’s going on with Hearts just now.

Initially, and a big part me still does, want them to get relegated on merit, which they undoubtedly would have done.

On the flip side though I’m really really enjoying the squirming and outrage they’re all showing.

This is almost like a longer more drawn out suffering for them and it’s brilliant.

Really enjoying this end of season show, hope it has a happy ending.

What exactly is their argument? They’re 💩 1 win every 7.5 games, but they reckon they’ll win AT LEAST 4/8. That’s currently 13/14% to at least 50%, & they could still go down. Even if they survive, it’s been extremely entertaining through lockdown.

[AltheHibby]

Some roaster talking about us:

" 12 minutes ago, jbee647 said:
Then we will only ever give them the minimum allocation for Tynecastle... I’d never attend Easter Road again


In all honesty, I don’t really blame them. They are the enemy and they hate us. I hold a LOT more disdain for Hearts supporters who think we should take a shafting. I also think more Bearts supporters need to reciprocate the hatred they feel towards us. We treat them like the wee friendly enemy down the road, whilst they have actively tried to kill our club."

WE actively tried to kill THEM!:confused:

[tamig]

Hearts and Rangers are 2 cheeks of the same arse both on and off the park. They both know they are fighting a losing battle.

It’s great when the hun wheel out the thesaurus and start chucking words like abhorrent around. You immediately know they’ve been riled.

[Peevemor]

Does anyone over there ever challenge the views of these clearly brilliant minds?There are one or two voices of reason (ie. if Hearts were 7/8th and Hamilton were bottom then there wouldn't be the same outrage) but they get shot down by the slavering hoardes and criticised for their lack of fighting spirit - well they did win us the war after all.

[660]

It’s worrying me that Rangers have came out in support of Hearts. They are usually coherent and well considered in their arguments!

[FilipinoHibs]

They won't be liquidated. If they are relegated then administration is a genuine possibility.

They will do it now and take the 15 point hit while in the SPL.

[Billy Whizz]

They will do it now and take the 15 point hit while in the SPL.

Not sure you can do it retrospectively

[The 90+2]

Some roaster talking about us:

" 12 minutes ago, jbee647 said:
Then we will only ever give them the minimum allocation for Tynecastle... I’d never attend Easter Road again


In all honesty, I don’t really blame them. They are the enemy and they hate us. I hold a LOT more disdain for Hearts supporters who think we should take a shafting. I also think more Bearts supporters need to reciprocate the hatred they feel towards us. We treat them like the wee friendly enemy down the road, whilst they have actively tried to kill our club."

WE actively tried to kill THEM!:confused:

Must have been when our old owner Wallace Mercer tried to take them over and bury them. Oh, wait.

[The 90+2]

It’s worrying me that Rangers have came out in support of Hearts. They are usually coherent and well considered in their arguments!

It’s really Partick Thistle they are concerned about being relegated. The Good Samaritan of the Glasgow football scene.

[Green Blood]

Anybody ever seen this mystic Maroon Pound?


:dunno:

Does not exist, ask Lady Haig Poppy Factory. There are rumours of many zillions of them being stashed in a bank vault somewhere in Lithuania though!

[Sammy7nil]

Some roaster talking about us:

" 12 minutes ago, jbee647 said:
Then we will only ever give them the minimum allocation for Tynecastle... I’d never attend Easter Road again


In all honesty, I don’t really blame them. They are the enemy and they hate us. I hold a LOT more disdain for Hearts supporters who think we should take a shafting. I also think more Bearts supporters need to reciprocate the hatred they feel towards us. We treat them like the wee friendly enemy down the road, whilst they have actively tried to kill our club."

WE actively tried to kill THEM!:confused:

It would be funny if it was not scary that these people live along side us.

Here is another

"We will be relegated, no question, we will unite around the injustice of it all, but I for one wont now be too upset if some, or indeed most clubs go under…..If the way forward is for clubs only to think of themselves and go down the route of granting a tainted title to Celtic while screwing us over then its every man for themselves"

When have they ever been other than for themselves?

[Ozyhibby]

After the vote to end the leagues, if they then have a vote on reconstruction which division do Hearts vote in?


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[Spike Mandela]

Anybody deluding themselves that Hearts will be in a lower league next season clearly have been walking around with their eyes shut missing how dithering ,incompetent, indecisive and downright morally bankrupt our authorities are.

[Dashing Bob S]

The tiresome posturing by Hearts about mythical court cases is them trying to play the only shabby hand they have left. The famous galvanize the supporters by playing the victim strategy. This is what all this is about.

Unfortunately they've probably played it once too many times for all but the dimmest Jambo to fall for it. In this environment, their fans cannot afford to go on financing their folly (costly blunders include the terrible stand and the inflated by numbers and salary but deflated by ability squad) even if they were stupid enough to want to do so.

The FOH money will slow to a trickle and the ST purchases might be devoid of the 'reboot bounce' both they and ourselves have enjoyed, as relegation and financial chaos is now becoming a habit for them.

This will put pressure on Budge and she won't finance anything.

The future is very uncertain for Scottish football, but however you cut it, it's more absolutely certain for Hearts than anyone, and its not a rosy one.

We've got Jack Ross and they ain't got Jack ****.

[Greenworld]

LoL your enjoying this...I think the talk of leagues reconstruction is a red herring won't happen

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[mjhibby]

The Rangers don’t want season called now, but want prize money paid now? How can you pay out when league places aren’t finalised? I’m in favour of finishing as possible, if not you have to finish as it is so as clubs can be paid prize money to help cash flow, & prepare for next season.

Typical sevco. Want everything both ways. Along with Hertz they are the most,amateurish,blinkered and embarrassing club in Scotland with statements like those of a child who can't get their own way. Do glad we show a bit of class and decency it our utterances. I cringe how embarrassing these two clubs statement are. That is how they behave all the time which doesn't show Scottish football in a good light.

[Ozyhibby]

Anybody deluding themselves that Hearts will be in a lower league next season clearly have been walking around with their eyes shut missing how dithering ,incompetent, indecisive and downright morally bankrupt our authorities are.

The ‘authorities’ are proposing to relegate them. Only the other clubs can save them now.


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[hibbyfraelibby]

Biggest glass curtain in the championship.

Only Glass Curtain surely?

[hibbyfraelibby]

TBF with hospitality and live tv it is worth far more than £200k

We dont get TV compo it all goes in the pot now.

[Skol]

Think back to the night before the fateful trip to Paisley.

There was a thread on JKB speculating that a win would put saints bottom and hearts would be saved due to a COVID 19 lockdown and relegate the hated buddies who cheated them in 1986.

Now the Hearts team let them down and the boot is on the other foot.:cb

[Kato]

Think back to the night before the fateful trip to Paisley.

There was a thread on JKB speculating that a win would put saints bottom and hearts would be saved due to a COVID 19 lockdown and relegate the hated buddies who cheated them in 1986.

Now the Hearts team let them down and the boot is on the other foot.:cbInteresting if a link could be found to that.

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[Since452]

Interesting if a link could be found to that.

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That would be comedy gold

[hibbyfraelibby]

It's really more of a pink pound.

Remember when they boycotted us before? Well we're still here and they very nearly weren't😁

[Skol]

Interesting if a link could be found to that.

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You mean this ?


https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/187977-imagine-this-scenario/

[mjhibby]

I feel a bit conflicted with all that’s going on with Hearts just now.

Initially, and a big part me still does, want them to get relegated on merit, which they undoubtedly would have done.

On the flip side though I’m really really enjoying the squirming and outrage they’re all showing.

This is almost like a longer more drawn out suffering for them and it’s brilliant.

Really enjoying this end of season show, hope it has a happy ending.

The irony is that they know they were very likely to be relegated anyway so this is just making the drop much harder to take. Lovely watching themselves get into such a lather. Marvelous entertainment.

[AltheHibby]

You mean this ?


https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/187977-imagine-this-scenario/

Copied in case they delete it.

We beat St Mirren 2-0 tomorrow night and go above them on goal difference.


On Thurs morning, the SPFL/SFA decide to end the season prematurely due to COVID-19. To ensure that Dundee Utd don’t hit the wall, the decision is taken to cancel the play offs, but relegate one and promote one. As a result, St Mirren are relegated on goal difference on technically the last day of the season. They then spend the rest of their eternity thinking about how this could have been avoided if they hadn’t let Celtic pump them last weekend.



That my friends is ****ing karma!!!

[Michael]

You mean this ?


https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/187977-imagine-this-scenario/

Comedy gold.

[Scorrie]

Remember when they boycotted us before? Well we're still here and they very nearly weren't😁

I’d be delighted if they never turned up at ER again. Sell all four stands out with Hibs fans would be great

[hibbyfraelibby]

The tiresome posturing by Hearts about mythical court cases is them trying to play the only shabby hand they have left. The famous galvanize the supporters by playing the victim strategy. This is what all this is about.

Unfortunately they've probably played it once too many times for all but the dimmest Jambo to fall for it. In this environment, their fans cannot afford to go on financing their folly (costly blunders include the terrible stand and the inflated by numbers and salary but deflated by ability squad) even if they were stupid enough to want to do so.

The FOH money will slow to a trickle and the ST purchases might be devoid of the 'reboot bounce' both they and ourselves have enjoyed, as relegation and financial chaos is now becoming a habit for them.

This will put pressure on Budge and she won't finance anything.

The future is very uncertain for Scottish football, but however you cut it, it's more absolutely certain for Hearts than anyone, and its not a rosy one.

We've got Jack Ross and they ain't got Jack ****.

See this court case is there not a rule about taking your governing body to a civil court that results in you being suspended. In football you sign up to the Independent Court of Arbitration in Sport, based in Lausanne.

[Deansy]

You mean this ?


https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/187977-imagine-this-scenario/


THIS is sweeter than honey !

[Real Emerald]

You mean this ?


https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/187977-imagine-this-scenario/

That needs to go out on social media so everyone can see what they would have thought had it not happened to them. ******* Karma I think it’s called.

[Hibees1973]

Tin hat on.

The prize money at stake for finishing 7th, which Is the likely outcome, is not a lot of money in real terms, especially if we get a good early response for season tickets.

This may surprise a few folk of here but I think Hibs will not approve a vote that would get Hearts relegated in the current circumstances. I would laugh out loud if they were sent down, but would have the feeling that it was not right.

To finish the season on current league positions may be the best option, out of all the options available. However ,there must be another, fairer alternative.

[James Stephen]

Tin hat on.

The prize money at stake for finishing 7th, which Is the likely outcome, is not a lot of money in real terms, especially if we get a good early response for season tickets.

This may surprise a few folk of here but I think Hibs will not approve a vote that would get Hearts relegated in the current circumstances. I would laugh out loud if they were sent down, but would have the feeling that it was not right.

To finish the season on current league positions may be the best option, out of all the options available. However ,there must be another, fairer alternative.


We're all ears...

[Rumble de Thump]

Keeping a team as abysmal as Hearts in the top flight would be hugely detrimental to the league. Hamilton and St Mirren are garbage so for Hearts to be below them, especially with the millions of pounds they've had gifted to them, highights how rotten they are. It's not just a rediculously bad team. The whole club is shockingly pish.

Their fans knew they were heading to the Championship. They then convinced themselves that the pandemic would be their get out of jail free card. It's not. They're rubbish, skint, going down and going bust.

[bingo70]

Tin hat on.

The prize money at stake for finishing 7th, which Is the likely outcome, is not a lot of money in real terms, especially if we get a good early response for season tickets.

This may surprise a few folk of here but I think Hibs will not approve a vote that would get Hearts relegated in the current circumstances. I would laugh out loud if they were sent down, but would have the feeling that it was not right.

To finish the season on current league positions may be the best option, out of all the options available. However ,there must be another, fairer alternative.

Like what?

Don’t mean that in an arsey way, there just isn’t a fairer way I don’t think.

[Real Emerald]

Tin hat on.

The prize money at stake for finishing 7th, which Is the likely outcome, is not a lot of money in real terms, especially if we get a good early response for season tickets.

This may surprise a few folk of here but I think Hibs will not approve a vote that would get Hearts relegated in the current circumstances. I would laugh out loud if they were sent down, but would have the feeling that it was not right.

To finish the season on current league positions may be the best option, out of all the options available. However ,there must be another, fairer alternative.

Just relegate St Mirren then. They’re just a pishy wee team that lay down to Celtic in 1986, you can’t relegate ‘the famous’, ‘the big team’, ‘the natural order’, ‘the biggest glass curtain’ or “a manager who fished above Jack Ross’s Sunderland”. You have to change everything in Scottish football to save Hearts even though they were creaming themselves imagining scenarios that Covid19 would relegate St Mirren, it’s ******* karma is it not! 💪🏿😂