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TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 12:21 AM
Cause you are. Jeez mate just give it up yet not fooling anyone. 😄

That’s a cracking argument. “Because you are”. What have I said that’s wrong?

tamig
11-04-2020, 12:23 AM
Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.
Its pish though. Utter nonsense. I don’t think you’ll get too many agreeing with you. I also think any kickbackers proposing this would have to be the most desperate of desperados. Its nonsense.

Broken Gnome
11-04-2020, 12:26 AM
Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

No you can't, you surely can't empathise with some desperate fact-checking from spewing Hearts fans that shows by some minute metric that it could be argued they have the 'best' cup record this season.

I don't see how anyone could remotely understand that.

O'Rourke3
11-04-2020, 12:36 AM
Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

I don't know why I care anymore.the argument(that you get) is that Hearts have played 2 teams in the premiership so have had a hard run. Despite not being able to beat Hibs from the Championship two years in a row? Very logical. I get it, award them the trophy now....

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 12:43 AM
No you can't, you surely can't empathise with some desperate fact-checking from spewing Hearts fans that shows by some minute metric that it could be argued they have the 'best' cup record this season.

I don't see how anyone could remotely understand that.

I look at things objectively, not through green tints. I’ve always been that way and it’s caused no end of arguments for me.
I’ve said it twice and I’ll say it for a third time. I’m not saying the cup should be played out that way. But I completely understand them saying it. We would be doing the same. Let’s not deny that.

1875godsgift
11-04-2020, 12:50 AM
Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 12:51 AM
To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

That’s fair enough. Like I said in the post above yours. I’m just speaking objectively,

1875godsgift
11-04-2020, 12:59 AM
That’s fair enough. Like I said in the post above yours. I’m just speaking objectively,


No worries mate :thumbsup:

I'm sure at some point towards the end of the year 3 games could be fitted in over two weekends to decide it.

A Boxing Day Scottish Cup Final would be a good end to the year (as long as we're still in it!) :greengrin

AFKA5814_Hibs
11-04-2020, 01:16 AM
That’s a cracking argument. “Because you are”. What have I said that’s wrong?

In 3 rounds of the Scottish Cup this season Hearts have a record of scored 7 and conceded 0, +7. Hibs have scored 15 conceded 7, +8. Am I missing something here. Please tell me if I am.

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:19 AM
In 3 rounds of the Scottish Cup this season Hearts have a record of scored 7 and conceded 0, +7. Hibs have scored 15 conceded 7, +8. Am I missing something here. Please tell me if I am.

Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:20 AM
No worries mate :thumbsup:

I'm sure at some point towards the end of the year 3 games could be fitted in over two weekends to decide it.

A Boxing Day Scottish Cup Final would be a good end to the year (as long as we're still in it!) :greengrin

That is the hope :greengrin

Thanks for seeing where I was coming from 🙂

FilipinoHibs
11-04-2020, 01:23 AM
Exactly.

If we won the cup by the normal channels, having played East Kilbride, Huntly, Cowdenbeath, Airdrie and beating Celtic in the final. We didn’t really win it because Celtic beat Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Rangers?

The cup is the luck of the draw. That’s beyond agreement.

As I’ve said. I’m not saying that it should play out that way but I can understand why they’re saying it.

You must be the only outside Tynie then who thinks that!

AFKA5814_Hibs
11-04-2020, 01:23 AM
Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.

Oh dear. Right ok then. I think you should just leave it there before you dig yourself a bigger hole. 👍

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:25 AM
Oh dear. Right ok then. I think you should just leave it there before you dig yourself a bigger hole. 👍

Am I wrong?

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:26 AM
You must be the only outside Tynie then who thinks that!

I doubt I’m the only one.

AFKA5814_Hibs
11-04-2020, 01:27 AM
Am I wrong?

Yes you clearly are. 🤣

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:29 AM
Yes you clearly are. 🤣

You know the opinions of every single football fan outside of Hearts?

Vault Boy
11-04-2020, 01:35 AM
All four teams that are in the semi finals have identical win records. There's absolutely no logical way of awarding a winner in a knock-out competition without the games being played to completion.

There's simply no other way to conclude the Scottish Cup. The games get played in the next football season, or the competition is nullified, that's it.

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:39 AM
All four teams that are in the semi finals have identical win records. There's absolutely no logical way of awarding a winner in a knock-out competition without the games being played to completion.

There's absolutely no other way to conclude the Scottish Cup. The games get played in the next football season, or the competition is nullified, that's it.

Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 01:42 AM
Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

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TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:45 AM
Struggling to believe this is being discussed.[emoji23]


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Once again...Why?

What have I said that isn’t factually correct?

AFKA5814_Hibs
11-04-2020, 01:46 AM
Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

Your a funny guy. 😄

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:48 AM
Your a funny guy. 😄

Cheers. I have my moments.

Is what I said wrong though?

AFKA5814_Hibs
11-04-2020, 01:52 AM
Cheers. I have my moments.

Is what I said wrong though?

I'll leave it to one of the admin guys to punt you. Personally, I'd keep you as one of our wee pets. 😄

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:54 AM
I'll leave it to one of the admin guys to punt you. Personally, I'd keep you as one of our wee pets. 😄

There it is. I’ve done this before you know.
I think objectively and therefore I must be a Jambo.

I’m not going to justify my Hibs supporting credentials to you.

You didn’t answer the question though. Was what I said wrong?

FilipinoHibs
11-04-2020, 01:58 AM
You know the opinions of every single football fan outside of Hearts?

Yes I have seen the idea suggested by fans from all over Scitland🤪

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 01:59 AM
Yes I have seen the idea suggested by fans from all over Scitland🤪

Every single fan?

Vault Boy
11-04-2020, 02:15 AM
Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

A Scottish Cup tie is played until there is a winner, a replay is still the same round of fixtures. All four teams have won the same number of rounds.

They've all played and won 4 rounds. That's the only thing that matters in a knockout competition of this kind, so yes they're identical.

AFKA5814_Hibs
11-04-2020, 02:19 AM
A Scottish Cup tie is played until there is a winner, a replay is still the same round of fixtures. All four teams have won the same number of rounds.

They've all played and won 4 rounds. That's the only thing that matters in a knockout competition of this kind, so yes they're identical.

Dont do it. Dont talk to it....🤪

Green_one
11-04-2020, 02:28 AM
A Scottish Cup tie is played until there is a winner, a replay is still the same round of fixtures. All four teams have won the same number of rounds.

They've all played and won 4 rounds. That's the only thing that matters in a knockout competition of this kind, so yes they're identical.

Plus the only way to predict who will win it is NOT to look at past results against minor teams but rather who you are playing next. ALL the teams Hearts are potentially playing have better form and recent records. The bookies way you might call it. On those grounds Celtic are way out in front and Hearts are clearly last. The whole issue though is pointless. You either play the games and resolve it or simply not issue the cup. Anything else is crazy or kickback logic.

FilipinoHibs
11-04-2020, 02:51 AM
Every single fan?

It was tongue in cheek. Only heard it from the most unhinged Jambos and TheHarpy76. We should close this discussion down and call the yellow van.

lapsedhibee
11-04-2020, 04:02 AM
I heard that they're going to draw straws for the Scottish Cup.

This is the best idea.

Aberdeen, Celtc and Hibs should get one straw each.
Hearts should get three straws, because they used to be run by a company called Wheatsheaf and one of their tin stands is called Wheatfield.
I'm not saying that's entirely fair, but I can understand why Hearts fans would believe it to be fair, and we'd be exactly the same if we were in their position and weren't sane either.

Skol
11-04-2020, 04:21 AM
Four wins and a draw worth a point more than four wins. So it’s a hibs Aberdeen final.

Tug Wilson
11-04-2020, 04:24 AM
Four wins and a draw worth a point more than four wins. So it’s a hibs Aberdeen final.

Do we not just win it on goal difference?

RoxburghHibs
11-04-2020, 04:59 AM
No. Award the cup to the remaining team with the best record. Who they played is completely irrelevant. Just as it would be if the cup was played to its conclusion in the normal way.

You don’t win cups on goal difference and even in some mad crazy world where you do that method hands Hibs the cup!😂
What the actual f!** are you on about?! Has to be a wind up or a drunk post.

That said I hope you’re just a Jambo clutching at straws on levels never seen before as its entertaining. Hearts fans = wee club mentality

Springbank
11-04-2020, 06:17 AM
The first 3 games back will be the 2 semis & the final, whenever that is (earliest possible is last week in July but that looks very ambitious & more likely to be aug/sept)

Whenever they take place, the SFA would like it all to start back with:

Tuesday - Hibs v Hearts
Wednesday - Aberdeen v Celtic
Saturday - The Scottish Cup Final

All 3 likely to be on telly but no fans inside the stadium

James Stephen
11-04-2020, 06:27 AM
I look at things objectively, not through green tints. I’ve always been that way and it’s caused no end of arguments for me.
I’ve said it twice and I’ll say it for a third time. I’m not saying the cup should be played out that way. But I completely understand them saying it. We would be doing the same. Let’s not deny that.

I deny it.

Theres no way on earth i would advocate that for Hibs.

Its a bonkers plan, and it is not logical or objective.

mjhibby
11-04-2020, 06:45 AM
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I think stir crazy status has officially kicked in for loads of folk due to lockdown fever. It's like two kids in the playground wondering how to win the cup without playing the semis and final. Bizarre.

DaveF
11-04-2020, 06:50 AM
Those last couple of pages were great 😂

.net at its bonkers best.

RoxburghHibs
11-04-2020, 06:54 AM
Those last couple of pages were great 😂

.net at its bonkers best.

The guy really believed he had a valid point. Made it comedy gold.

NC1875
11-04-2020, 06:55 AM
The last few pages have just made me forget all about my hangover. What a laugh.

When is hearts cup parade ?

Budge at the front of the bus and Levein at the back. 400k supporters kept 2m apart while cheering their heroes!!

Not In The Know
11-04-2020, 06:58 AM
To bring a bit of perspective, it's the same Hearts supporters saying it who were happy to win cups by fielding players they couldn't afford, ripping off charities, pensioners and local businesses in the process.

It's like trying to explain the concept of cheating to a 3 year old.

Exactly. They can **** off and go bust.

If anyone thinks differently just look at this revisionist pish from peak cheating/thieving/laundering years that we have to put up with.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/calum-elliot-hearts-knew-hibs-would-be-defeated-2006-striker-recalls-his-scottish-cup-fairytale-until-final-2536182

brog
11-04-2020, 07:15 AM
Wow, welcome to Through The Looking Glass. Confirms the old adage that you should not post in the wee sma hours! Anyway it was a welcome distraction & I'm thrilled to note that I actually saw us win the cup about 60 years ago when we beat Peebles Rovers 15-1! Some final!

we are hibs
11-04-2020, 07:39 AM
The scottish cup semis will be played next season. Its an SFA competition so not part of the end it now proposal. They might even use them as the season openers.

high bee
11-04-2020, 07:56 AM
Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

I agree Hearts should be awarded the Scottish Cup, just so I can see them squirm when they’re trying to boast about their famous victory while concurrently claiming victim status due to their relegation.

Springbank
11-04-2020, 08:12 AM
The scottish cup semis will be played next season. Its an SFA competition so not part of the end it now proposal. They might even use them as the season openers.

100% the season openers will be Hibs v Hearts, Aberdeen vs Celtic, then a few days later, The Final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51935742

G B Young
11-04-2020, 08:16 AM
The scottish cup semis will be played next season. Its an SFA competition so not part of the end it now proposal. They might even use them as the season openers.

I can't see that happening. Think it will simply be abandoned.

Greenworld
11-04-2020, 08:17 AM
I can't see that happening. Think it will simply be abandoned.The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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Aldo
11-04-2020, 08:18 AM
I’m late to this party and by god what a party it has been!

The thought process of some Hibs fans (I apply this very loosely btw) suggests the fairest way to sort the winners of this years Scottish cup is goal average (or games win so far this season).

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Bostonhibby
11-04-2020, 08:19 AM
In their place, I would be doing the same.

If they’re calling it on one competition then they have to call it on them all. Hearts have the best record from the four remaining teams.

I know I’m going to get grief for this but it’s how I feel.Applying the average Duncan's logic,they should all be moving into Edinburgh castle and claiming they're birthright since they have the best view of it from any ground in Scotland.

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Keith_M
11-04-2020, 08:28 AM
100% the season openers will be Hibs v Hearts, Aberdeen vs Celtic, then a few days later, The Final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51935742


That would only be a reasonable proposal if clubs are restricted to use only players that are currently registered with that club.

If they allow new signings to play, then it's utter nonsense.

Phil MaGlass
11-04-2020, 08:34 AM
The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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Some much needed cash generated then, hopefully.

bringbackbenny
11-04-2020, 08:34 AM
That would only be a reasonable proposal if clubs are restricted to use only players that are currently registered with that club.

If they allow new signings to play, then it's utter nonsense.

Agree has to be with current squads/registered players. would therefore require temporary contract extensions with all the players agreeing to same.

Aldo
11-04-2020, 08:36 AM
Applying the average Duncan's logic,they should all be moving into Edinburgh castle and claiming they're birthright since they have the best view of it from any ground in Scotland.

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Indeed. Not forgetting they are the Famous and the supposed Big Team


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Bostonhibby
11-04-2020, 08:38 AM
Indeed. Not forgetting they are the Famous and the supposed Big Team


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHold the front page, celtc are claiming it as, of all the teams left, they have the most hoops on their strips.

Mrs Budge will be right on the phone to her pals to stop this happening.

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Aldo
11-04-2020, 08:42 AM
Hold the front page, celtc are claiming it as, of all the teams left, they have the most hoops on their strips.

Mrs Budge will be right on the phone to her pals to stop this happening.

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Threatening legal action too


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Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 08:43 AM
Once again...Why?

What have I said that isn’t factually correct?

You are totally factually correct. I just can’t believe anyone thinks a cup competition would ever be settled this way.


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G B Young
11-04-2020, 08:44 AM
The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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It might be what they'd like to happen but they will ultimately be dictated to by circumstances. The chances of life returning to a level where we could safely host these ties in the next few months are slim to non existent. Allowing 100,000 people to converge on Hampden over a weekend is a long, long way off.

Keith_M
11-04-2020, 08:47 AM
You are totally factually correct. I just can’t believe anyone thinks a cup competition would ever be settled this way.


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Just ignore him, he's an obvious Troll.



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Onion
11-04-2020, 08:51 AM
Agree has to be with current squads/registered players. would therefore require temporary contract extensions with all the players agreeing to same.

Yes, but can't see that happening. As soon as UEFA allow leagues to end the season - players, agents and clubs will be preparing for next season. There'ill be no need to extend contracts and I can't see any player/agent agreeing to stick around for 1 or 2 cup games - unless they had nothing else on the table.

brog
11-04-2020, 08:57 AM
Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

You've not even got that correct. We've played 4 as have Aberdeen. Celtc & them have played 3.

James Stephen
11-04-2020, 09:01 AM
Hold the front page, celtc are claiming it as, of all the teams left, they have the most hoops on their strips.

Mrs Budge will be right on the phone to her pals to stop this happening.

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I think it should be awarded to Hibernian as out of all of the teams left, Hibs were the first ones to win it. Therefore it is logical, and i say that completely objectively, that it goes to Hibs.

Hibs4185
11-04-2020, 09:02 AM
I’m late to this party and by god what a party it has been!

The thought process of some Hibs fans (I apply this very loosely btw) suggests the fairest way to sort the winners of this years Scottish cup is goal average (or games win so far this season).

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Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

hibeerealist
11-04-2020, 09:03 AM
Hearts have a 100% record. We don’t, we needed a replay.

You must be great company in the pub before or after a game!

Bostonhibby
11-04-2020, 09:04 AM
I think it should be awarded to Hibernian as out of all of the teams left, Hibs were the first ones to win it. Therefore it is logical, and i say that completely objectively, that it goes to Hibs.I'll vote for that.

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FilipinoHibs
11-04-2020, 09:05 AM
Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

I smell a Troll. Has kept us amused in these long days.

KeithTheHibby
11-04-2020, 09:08 AM
The SFA have already said that's what is to happen

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When? Have you got a link?

Bostonhibby
11-04-2020, 09:10 AM
I smell a Troll. Has kept us amused in these long days.I enjoy the pure logic of the argument here.

Applying it to the league for a moment, Hearts have the fewest points, won fewest games and have the worst goal difference so it's great that the comments on kickback seems to suggest Hearts fans buy into such a straightforward formula for the criteria for their relegation.

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Aldo
11-04-2020, 09:21 AM
You are totally factually correct. I just can’t believe anyone thinks a cup competition would ever be settled this way.


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You would think Ozzy however I would suggest this would be the way of thinking of some (not Hibs fans however)


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Aldo
11-04-2020, 09:22 AM
Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

Reeks of utter desperation and let’s face it it’s the only way they would come even close to winning anything.


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Greenworld
11-04-2020, 09:23 AM
It might be what they'd like to happen but they will ultimately be dictated to by circumstances. The chances of life returning to a level where we could safely host these ties in the next few months are slim to non existent. Allowing 100,000 people to converge on Hampden over a weekend is a long, long way off.They are not talking of the next few months they are talking August / September in the new season...

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brog
11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
Interestingly, there is also thread on kickback regarding hearts winning the cup using this methodology....

Our "discussion" started because of the sickback thread.

Rumble de Thump
11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
For "objectively" read "maroon-tinted specs"

Greenworld
11-04-2020, 09:27 AM
When? Have you got a link?It was an interview on TV with the sfa a few weeks back . It was quite clear that they valued it to ntended it to be completed early in the new season

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NadeAteMyLunch!
11-04-2020, 09:27 AM
They seem to think they should be awarded the Scottish Cup on account of goals for :rolleyes:

Utterly deluded fools to a man (or woman) :bye:

Without giving their mental ramblings enough credit to actually count how many goals they’ve scored, they can’t have scored more than us surely? We scored 6 against Dundee Utd(I’ve counted the replay since we’re being ridiculous anyway), 4 against BSC and 5 against ICT. In fact, just give us the trophy now I think of it.

brog
11-04-2020, 09:29 AM
Apologies if already covered in depth previously but I just read the Dundee statement & it's a belter! Reads like it was written by the ******* child of Self Sufficient Southern & Jumbo Traynor while on a night out with Begbie! Incoherent, meandering, sanctimonious shi*e!!

Aldo
11-04-2020, 09:34 AM
Apologies if already covered in depth previously but I just read the Dundee statement & it's a belter! Reads like it was written by the ******* child of Self Sufficient Southern & Jumbo Traynor while on a night out with Begbie! Incoherent, meandering, sanctimonious shi*e!!

Attention seeking to appease their hordes.

They still have time to vote but I bet Budge has them on speed dial with a wee sweetener.... after 34 years Potter will come and finally clean that bog!!


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tamig
11-04-2020, 09:34 AM
They are not talking of the next few months they are talking August / September in the new season...

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Even then I’d reckon there’s a good chance it would take place behind closed doors. The cup this season should be binned as far as I’m concerned.

Rumble de Thump
11-04-2020, 09:35 AM
Did anyone actually manage to decipher what Dundee were on about in their statement? Have they made a decision? What's their stance? What do they want? What are they on?

we are hibs
11-04-2020, 09:36 AM
That would only be a reasonable proposal if clubs are restricted to use only players that are currently registered with that club.

If they allow new signings to play, then it's utter nonsense.


Conrad Logan only coming in at the semi final stage was a nonsense then? If all 4 clubs agree to it then im not sure why it couldnt happen. It may give us a better chance of winning it as this current squad have no chance, if we are being honest.

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 09:37 AM
Apologies if already covered in depth previously but I just read the Dundee statement & it's a belter! Reads like it was written by the ******* child of Self Sufficient Southern & Jumbo Traynor while on a night out with Begbie! Incoherent, meandering, sanctimonious shi*e!!

Actually couldn't make out which way they voted based on the statement. Seemed a bit Budge like.

tamig
11-04-2020, 09:39 AM
Did anyone actually manage to decipher what Dundee were on about in their statement? Have they made a decision? What's their stance? What do they want? What are they on?

My take was they want the league to recompense the clubs for the gate receipts that would be lost in the event of the season not completing. Fantasy island nonsense and totally unrealistic in today’s climate.

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 09:40 AM
Did anyone actually manage to decipher what Dundee were on about in their statement? Have they made a decision? What's their stance? What do they want? What are they on?

:agree:

KeithTheHibby
11-04-2020, 09:41 AM
It was an interview on TV with the sfa a few weeks back . It was quite clear that they valued it to ntended it to be completed early in the new season

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Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 09:42 AM
Sorry I thought you meant it wasn’t going to be played at all[emoji1303]


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Going to be some game and atmosphere, if they think we’ve played a part in their demotion😄

tamig
11-04-2020, 09:45 AM
Going to be some game and atmosphere, if they think we’ve played a part in their demotion😄

If it gets played I suspect there might be no atmosphere at all Billy.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 09:47 AM
If it gets played I suspect there might be no atmosphere at all Billy.

You make a great point, which would be a shame

Caversham Green
11-04-2020, 09:52 AM
Even then I’d reckon there’s a good chance it would take place behind closed doors. The cup this season should be binned as far as I’m concerned.

I'm in two minds about that. On the one hand it's an easier competition to call null and void than the league, but on the other hand there are only three games to be played and they can be played at any time. In the case of the leagues there are something in the region of 200 (I think) games to play and they have to be completed before the start of next season.

The only reason the Duncans want it called is that they know they've no chance of reaching the final.

G B Young
11-04-2020, 09:53 AM
It was an interview on TV with the sfa a few weeks back . It was quite clear that they valued it to ntended it to be completed early in the new season

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The world has changed beyond recognition since 'a few weeks back.' There's not a chance the SFA could commit to that now.

G B Young
11-04-2020, 09:55 AM
Conrad Logan only coming in at the semi final stage was a nonsense then? If all 4 clubs agree to it then im not sure why it couldnt happen. It may give us a better chance of winning it as this current squad have no chance, if we are being honest.

Nothing in that post makes sense.

Greenworld
11-04-2020, 09:56 AM
The world has changed beyond recognition since 'a few weeks back.' There's not a chance the SFA could commit to that now.Why

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we are hibs
11-04-2020, 09:58 AM
Nothing in that post makes sense.

Erm. It does though. Clubs couldve signed free agents before the semi's were originally due to take place like we did with Logan which couldve changed the course of those semis. This is the exact same situation.

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 10:02 AM
SFA will definitely play the Scottish cup as one of their main sources of income. Only 3 games so definitely will happen and should happen imo.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 10:04 AM
SFA will definitely play the Scottish cup as one of their main sources of income. Only 3 games so definitely will happen and should happen imo.

Delay it as long as they can, so supporters can go
Only issue with the delay, is the European place, although I can’t see European games starting as early as normal

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 10:10 AM
Delay it as long as they can, so supporters can go
Only issue with the delay, is the European place, although I can’t see European games starting as early as normal

European place will go to 4th place league position.

Danderhall Hibs
11-04-2020, 10:11 AM
SFA will definitely play the Scottish cup as one of their main sources of income. Only 3 games so definitely will happen and should happen imo.

How much would they make if the games have to be played behind closed doors?

Jim44
11-04-2020, 10:12 AM
Before we stray away from the ‘Hearts should be awarded the Cup’ based on statistics so far in the competition, I notice that the poster, forcibly defending the principles of this nonsense, has changed his tune over the years.
In a thread discussing our elimination from the cup in a penalty shoot out against Dundee United in 2014, someone argued that, instead of a penalty shoot out, matches should be based purely on match statistics. The poster, who in this present thread is pro the use of statistics to decide the winner of this year’s competition replied back then :

“Would you be complaining about penalty shoot-outs had we won on Wednesday night?

It's the best and most exciting way to resolve a cup tie.
Leave it to stats? Erm...no ta”

Interesting.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 10:13 AM
How much would they make if the games have to be played behind closed doors?

Nothing

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 10:17 AM
How much would they make if the games have to be played behind closed doors?

Assume they will expect fans to be there.

Greenworld
11-04-2020, 10:45 AM
Before we stray away from the ‘Hearts should be awarded the Cup’ based on statistics so far in the competition, I notice that the poster, forcibly defending the principles of this nonsense, has changed his tune over the years.
In a thread discussing our elimination from the cup in a penalty shoot out against Dundee United in 2014, someone argued that, instead of a penalty shoot out, matches should be based purely on match statistics. The poster, who in this present thread is pro the use of statistics to decide the winner of this year’s competition replied back then :

“Would you be complaining about penalty shoot-outs had we won on Wednesday night?

It's the best and most exciting way to resolve a cup tie.
Leave it to stats? Erm...no ta”

Interesting.Oh dear damn history eh LoL

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Springbank
11-04-2020, 10:47 AM
The world has changed beyond recognition since 'a few weeks back.' There's not a chance the SFA could commit to that now.

It was after the lockdown came in that the SFA said the cup will be played to a conclusion once the world is back to being in a place where games can take place again

Greenworld
11-04-2020, 11:00 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5482716/uefa-marc-van-ranst-abandon-season/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

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Keith_M
11-04-2020, 11:09 AM
Erm. It does though. Clubs couldve signed free agents before the semi's were originally due to take place like we did with Logan which couldve changed the course of those semis. This is the exact same situation.



First up: This isn't 'the exact same situation' as anything that's ever happened in the whole history of the human race.


Conrad Logan was able to sign for Hibs because we suddenly had an emergency situation in regards to the lack of a First Team goalkeeper, for which there are special dispensations in place. The same would not have happened if, for instance, all of our Forwards were suddenly injured.

Hearts have about Four Goalkeepers, and probably Fifty Outfield Players on their books. They don't need any new signings to play one game.

Moulin Yarns
11-04-2020, 11:16 AM
Hibs and Aberdeen have played 5 games in the complete and won 4.

Celtic and Hearts have played 4 and won 4.

That’s not the same win records.

By that logic, award points as if they were league matches. Hibs and Aberdeen have 13 points, celtc and Hearts have 12.😉

A Hi-Bee
11-04-2020, 11:36 AM
Perhaps we could play the Scottish Cup games during the scheduled “winter break” and maybe by that time football will be back, teams will be match fit and even if they could not be played at Hampden how about a bit of vision from the SFA and play the games somewhere in the sunshine. Give us all something to look forward to; the games could be beamed all over the World on T.V. The Europe spot can go to 4th place in the league for this year. **** the hertz.
Great exposure and lots more cash from TV. around the World. Our own owner has plenty experience in such things with his background in Spanish speaking sport on T.V. etc.
Scottish Fitba needs to get out of its small parochial little box and look forward.

CropleyWasGod
11-04-2020, 11:41 AM
By that logic, award points as if they were league matches. Hibs and Aberdeen have 13 points, celtc and Hearts have 12.😉

Celtic and Hearts have a game in hand.

I'd call in the Pools Panel for that.

A Hi-Bee
11-04-2020, 11:42 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5482716/uefa-marc-van-ranst-abandon-season/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

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The current buns and the wee current buns will need to be on statement overdrive if this ever happened.
But any slim hopes of the season continuing at a later date could be snuffed out entirely if European football's governing body listen to the advice of Marc Van Ranst, who is virologist and epidemiologist at the Katholieke Universiteit in Leuven and regarded as one of the world's leading authorities on the subject.
Belgian football initially incurred UEFA's wrath after they declared their season over, only to announce a u-turn later.
Now UEFA have turned to one of their countrymen to get a definite verdict on when football can return.
And he's advised UEFA to bin the season immediately.
Story above from the rag that rhymes wi Hun.

we are hibs
11-04-2020, 11:46 AM
First up: This isn't 'the exact same situation' as anything that's ever happened in the whole history of the human race.


Conrad Logan was able to sign for Hibs because we suddenly had an emergency situation in regards to the lack of a First Team goalkeeper, for which there are special dispensations in place. The same would not have happened if, for instance, all of our Forwards were suddenly injured.

Hearts have about Four Goalkeepers, and probably Fifty Outfield Players on their books. They don't need any new signings to play one game.


None of that is true. We didnt need special dispensation at all.

SuperAllyMcleod
11-04-2020, 11:56 AM
They seem to think they should be awarded the Scottish Cup on account of goals for :rolleyes:

Utterly deluded fools to a man (or woman) :bye:

How does that even work?

They have won 5-0, 1-0 and 1-0 = 7 scored and a plus 7 goal difference.

Our results are 2-2, 4-2, 4-1 and 5-2 = 15 scored and a plus 8 difference.

They are truly unbelievable and never let the facts get in the way of their agenda.

Tug Wilson
11-04-2020, 11:56 AM
The current buns and the wee current buns will need to be on statement overdrive if this ever happened.
But any slim hopes of the season continuing at a later date could be snuffed out entirely if European football's governing body listen to the advice of Marc Van Ranst, who is virologist and epidemiologist at the Katholieke Universiteit in Leuven and regarded as one of the world's leading authorities on the subject.
Belgian football initially incurred UEFA's wrath after they declared their season over, only to announce a u-turn later.
Now UEFA have turned to one of their countrymen to get a definite verdict on when football can return.
And he's advised UEFA to bin the season immediately.
Story above from the rag that rhymes wi Hun.

The last line in the article about how mass events like football matches or music festivals being the last part of any exit strategy is the real big one for me.

Too many people seem to think that as soon as restrictions are lifted then business as usual.

Closed doors games create no income but they do create expenditure. Non starter.

Restrictions will be lifted in stages and football is well down the list.

UEFA need to take the lead on this.

munchar
11-04-2020, 12:00 PM
The last line in the article about how mass events like football matches or music festivals being the last part of any exit strategy is the real big one for me.

Too many people seem to think that as soon as restrictions are lifted then business as usual.

Closed doors games create no income but they do create expenditure. Non starter.

Restrictions will be lifted in stages and football is well down the list.

UEFA need to take the lead on this.

Correct.
If UEFA decide to call it as it is, we can all move on & prepare for next season, whenever that may be. I’m all for finishing season if possible, but financially, most clubs need prize money to survive & rebuild.

CockneyRebel
11-04-2020, 12:13 PM
The current buns and the wee current buns will need to be on statement overdrive if this ever happened.
But any slim hopes of the season continuing at a later date could be snuffed out entirely if European football's governing body listen to the advice of Marc Van Ranst, who is virologist and epidemiologist at the Katholieke Universiteit in Leuven and regarded as one of the world's leading authorities on the subject.
Belgian football initially incurred UEFA's wrath after they declared their season over, only to announce a u-turn later.
Now UEFA have turned to one of their countrymen to get a definite verdict on when football can return.
And he's advised UEFA to bin the season immediately.
Story above from the rag that rhymes wi Hun.

Do you think the current buns would take into consideration anything coming from a university called Katholieke?

LALthehibeeGAL
11-04-2020, 12:32 PM
I think stir crazy status has officially kicked in for loads of folk due to lockdown fever. It's like two kids in the playground wondering how to win the cup without playing the semis and final. Bizarre.


Those last couple of pages were great 😂

.net at its bonkers best.


The guy really believed he had a valid point. Made it comedy gold.


The last few pages have just made me forget all about my hangover. What a laugh.

When is hearts cup parade ?

Budge at the front of the bus and Levein at the back. 400k supporters kept 2m apart while cheering their heroes!!


You must be great company in the pub before or after a game!

OMG what a hoot I have just caught up on this thread - don't punt him keep the fun going!!! that's what happens when you are on the sauce til the wee small hours !!

FWIW wouldn't it be in the yams interest to technically "prove a point" by trying to play and win the SC to forever bleat about being unfairly relegated!!! blah blah

Anyway the last couple of pages have had me practically in tears - pure gold - he's a keeper even if he is a yam!!!

Lal:agree:

RoYO!
11-04-2020, 12:52 PM
They seem to believe not turning up at away games is going to be a hammer blow to the finances of top flight teams up and down the country.

So it's kinda like the financial armageddon we were promised when Rangers went pop... only on a much, much smaller scale.. good to know!! xD

RoYO!
11-04-2020, 12:57 PM
I am now trawling back thru the pages- where does the nonsense fun begin?!?! Haha

The 90+2
11-04-2020, 01:04 PM
I am now trawling back thru the pages- where does the nonsense fun begin?!?! Haha

266 - what a trumpet.

The 90+2
11-04-2020, 01:05 PM
OMG what a hoot I have just caught up on this thread - don't punt him keep the fun going!!! that's what happens when you are on the sauce til the wee small hours !!

FWIW wouldn't it be in the yams interest to technically "prove a point" by trying to play and win the SC to forever bleat about being unfairly relegated!!! blah blah

Anyway the last couple of pages have had me practically in tears - pure gold - he's a keeper even if he is a yam!!!

Lal:agree:

Poster 100% is on acid or not a Hibee. Beyond any kind of logical thinking. Reminds me of Dee Dee from Limmys show.

RoYO!
11-04-2020, 01:11 PM
Before we stray away from the ‘Hearts should be awarded the Cup’ based on statistics so far in the competition, I notice that the poster, forcibly defending the principles of this nonsense, has changed his tune over the years.
In a thread discussing our elimination from the cup in a penalty shoot out against Dundee United in 2014, someone argued that, instead of a penalty shoot out, matches should be based purely on match statistics. The poster, who in this present thread is pro the use of statistics to decide the winner of this year’s competition replied back then :

“Would you be complaining about penalty shoot-outs had we won on Wednesday night?

It's the best and most exciting way to resolve a cup tie.
Leave it to stats? Erm...no ta”

Interesting.

What a truly bizarre way to announce ones yamness!

LALthehibeeGAL
11-04-2020, 01:26 PM
I am now trawling back thru the pages- where does the nonsense fun begin?!?! Haha

Page 266 :agree:


They seem to think they should be awarded the Scottish Cup on account of goals for :rolleyes:

Utterly deluded fools to a man (or woman) :bye:


In their place, I would be doing the same.

If they’re calling it on one competition then they have to call it on them all. Hearts have the best record from the four remaining teams.

I know I’m going to get grief for this but it’s how I feel.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 01:27 PM
Hearts couldn’t even get their vote in on time, must have been using Romanov’s old machine
Seemingly the SPFL had to chase them up, as of 5pm it wasn’t received

Since452
11-04-2020, 01:31 PM
I'd be all for awarding Hearts the Scottish cup if it means they are relegated. In fact I'd even nip along to solo clap at their parade.

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 01:33 PM
Hearts couldn’t even get their vote in on time, must have been using Romanov’s old machine
Seemingly the SPFL had to chase them up, as of 5pm it wasn’t received

Quite frankly do not believe the version that they sent an email in at midday and technically didn't reach the spfl. Not a chance that happened imo.

Kojock
11-04-2020, 01:34 PM
It really is a hoot over the road. This one caught my eye talking about boycotting away grounds.

I'll certainly be avoiding any of their grounds or giving them my money, I even sent a message to Tony Macaroni explaining why I will no longer be taking my family to their Omni Centre restaurant

😂 😂 😂

JimBHibees
11-04-2020, 01:34 PM
It really is a hoot over the road. This one caught my eye talking about boycotting away grounds.

I'll certainly be avoiding any of their grounds or giving them my money, I even sent a message to Tony Macaroni explaining why I will no longer be taking my family to their Omni Centre restaurant

😂 😂 😂

That is brilliant :faf:

Jack
11-04-2020, 02:04 PM
Quite frankly do not believe the version that they sent an email in at midday and technically didn't reach the spfl. Not a chance that happened imo.

Queen Ann deluges the yams website with her inane rants. You van only imagine the drivel she sends via email to all and sundry.

The email to the SFA probably went straight to spam.

Joe6-2
11-04-2020, 02:18 PM
Before we stray away from the ‘Hearts should be awarded the Cup’ based on statistics so far in the competition, I notice that the poster, forcibly defending the principles of this nonsense, has changed his tune over the years.
In a thread discussing our elimination from the cup in a penalty shoot out against Dundee United in 2014, someone argued that, instead of a penalty shoot out, matches should be based purely on match statistics. The poster, who in this present thread is pro the use of statistics to decide the winner of this year’s competition replied back then :

“Would you be complaining about penalty shoot-outs had we won on Wednesday night?

It's the best and most exciting way to resolve a cup tie.
Leave it to stats? Erm...no ta”

Interesting.

Good hunting!

G B Young
11-04-2020, 02:44 PM
None of that is true. We didnt need special dispensation at all.

He still signed during the course of the season though. A very different scenario to playing the remaining Scottish Cup ties next season, when there's no knowing how many players will have come and gone, let alone when the games could be played. If we can draw a line under the league campaign there's no reason we can't do the same with the Scottish Cup.

Pretty Boy
11-04-2020, 03:01 PM
It really is a hoot over the road. This one caught my eye talking about boycotting away grounds.

I'll certainly be avoiding any of their grounds or giving them my money, I even sent a message to Tony Macaroni explaining why I will no longer be taking my family to their Omni Centre restaurant

😂 😂 😂

That's a new classic right there.

Why only the Omni Centre? Will he still be frequenting Tony Macaroni restaurants at other sites? Was he crying when he sent the email? We need to know.

A Hi-Bee
11-04-2020, 03:04 PM
It really is a hoot over the road. This one caught my eye talking about boycotting away grounds.

I'll certainly be avoiding any of their grounds or giving them my money, I even sent a message to Tony Macaroni explaining why I will no longer be taking my family to their Omni Centre restaurant

😂 😂 😂

hope his email did not get blocked by a firewall and end up in the junk mail, perhaps he needs to follow it up wi a phone call as well.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 03:05 PM
If you have a look on kickback just now, 2 of the top trending threads

Happy St Vlad Day, but they won’t accept he is a convicted crook

The Rangers statement, they are in love with it!!!’

A Hi-Bee
11-04-2020, 03:13 PM
If you have a look on kickback just now, 2 of the top trending threads

Happy St Vlad Day, but they won’t accept he is a convicted crook

The Rangers statement, they are in love with it!!!’

I heard a whisper that the huns and the mini huns are looking into joining the Belarus League........They can both relate to the President of that country.

Hibs90
11-04-2020, 03:33 PM
It really is a hoot over the road. This one caught my eye talking about boycotting away grounds.

I'll certainly be avoiding any of their grounds or giving them my money, I even sent a message to Tony Macaroni explaining why I will no longer be taking my family to their Omni Centre restaurant

😂 😂 😂

https://i.gifer.com/C0I.gif

Hibs90
11-04-2020, 03:40 PM
The idiots over the road believe this is a real whatsapp message

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVUzH88WkAAhATU?format=jpg&name=small

Rangers fans have previous for faking WhatsApp messages...

green day
11-04-2020, 03:42 PM
The idiots over the road believe this is a real whatsapp message

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVUzH88WkAAhATU?format=jpg&name=small

Rangers fans have previous for faking WhatsApp messages...

Indeed, and if this is what the Huns want Doncaster sacked for........

Hibs90
11-04-2020, 03:45 PM
A CLASSIC exchange right here;

https://i.gyazo.com/86138e6ff99cd7df08d3a705cf037308.png

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 03:49 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

matty_f
11-04-2020, 03:50 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

:faf: fair play!

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 03:51 PM
:faf: fair play!

My Facebook page was a hoot as well. A lot of deletes and apologies have had to be made today 😂

brog
11-04-2020, 03:54 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

:thumbsup:

Kojock
11-04-2020, 03:55 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

You certainly got a good few bites lol

HoboHarry
11-04-2020, 04:01 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.
Shame on you. I had a glass or three of wine and didn't piss anyone off. Well except the wife probably. I mean I didn't ask her but she's probably pissed at me for something.....

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 04:03 PM
Shame on you. I had a glass or three of wine and didn't piss anyone off. Well except the wife probably. I mean I didn't ask her but she's probably pissed at me for something.....

Indeed. Lockdown has a lot to answer for.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever 😁

hibbyfraelibby
11-04-2020, 04:05 PM
None of that is true. We didnt need special dispensation at all.

We needed no dispensation because Conrad was signed in line with the governing regulations.

mjhibby
11-04-2020, 04:06 PM
Correct.
If UEFA decide to call it as it is, we can all move on & prepare for next season, whenever that may be. I’m all for finishing season if possible, but financially, most clubs need prize money to survive & rebuild.

I think this will be the final outcome and given the horrendous death totals in Italy and spainplus in Britain then I wouldn't be surprised if they finish every season on Apr 23rd and the shambles we have had was a waste of time and caused huge animosity unnecessarily.

munchar
11-04-2020, 04:10 PM
Indeed. Lockdown has a lot to answer for.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever 😁

You should sign up to sickback. That type of logic over there is common, & posted sober!

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 04:11 PM
You should sign up to sickback. That type of logic over there is common, & posted sober!

Might do that next time I’m pished 😁

Hibs90
11-04-2020, 04:12 PM
Might do that next time I’m pished 😁

I thought you were already a member? :greengrin

munchar
11-04-2020, 04:14 PM
I think this will be the final outcome and given the horrendous death totals in Italy and spainplus in Britain then I wouldn't be surprised if they finish every season on Apr 23rd and the shambles we have had was a waste of time and caused huge animosity unnecessarily.

You would think with the tragedies going on globally, common sense would prevail. Not ideal if season was to finish now, but as I’ve said, we’re not 8 games into a season, it’s 8 to finish. 30 games to put yourself in a safe position.

grunt
11-04-2020, 04:15 PM
The idiots over the road believe this is a real whatsapp message

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVUzH88WkAAhATU?format=jpg&name=small

Rangers fans have previous for faking WhatsApp messages..."I hope you trust that I am being completely truthful".

:confused:

Onion
11-04-2020, 04:20 PM
I think this will be the final outcome and given the horrendous death totals in Italy and spainplus in Britain then I wouldn't be surprised if they finish every season on Apr 23rd and the shambles we have had was a waste of time and caused huge animosity unnecessarily.

Absolutely. UEFAs fantasising about the season being played out against all the medical evidence and common sense is as mad as anything we've seen from the SFA in recent years. Had they not been so blinded by the extra few quid they could squeeze out, and focused on the real needs of member nations they could have made this whole process so much easier for all. Instead, UEFA have been part of the problem. They need to reflect on their own behaviour and guidance, get real about how important football is relative to life generally, and relegate Hearts.

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 04:33 PM
I thought you were already a member? :greengrin

🙈

RoxburghHibs
11-04-2020, 04:51 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.


:thumbsup::greengrin :aok:

Pretty Boy
11-04-2020, 04:56 PM
What gets me is Hearts fans talking about how this is vindication that 'Vlad' was correct all along and we are seeing proof that Scottish football is corrupt and so on.

What they are ignoring is that if any other team was currently bottom of the league, Hearts would have voted for the proposals in exactly the same way and for the same reasons that Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic et al have. Scottish football may well be corrupt but they would have been quite happy to have been complicit in that corruption if it was in their interests.

CockneyRebel
11-04-2020, 05:03 PM
We needed no dispensation because Conrad was signed in line with the governing regulations.


Which give clubs special dispensation to sign goalkeepers between transfer windows. :wink:

HoboHarry
11-04-2020, 05:12 PM
Which give clubs special dispensation to sign goalkeepers between transfer windows. :wink:

No dispensation is required if a player is a free agent when the transfer window closes. I'll stand corrected but Conrad Logan I'm pretty sure was a free agent when he signed for us.

WeAreHibs
11-04-2020, 05:22 PM
Queen Ann deluges the yams website with her inane rants. You van only imagine the drivel she sends via email to all and sundry.

The email to the SFA probably went straight to spam.

Spam Budge

SMAXXA
11-04-2020, 05:27 PM
No dispensation is required if a player is a free agent when the transfer window closes. I'll stand corrected but Conrad Logan I'm pretty sure was a free agent when he signed for us.

He was

tamig
11-04-2020, 05:44 PM
I heard a whisper that the huns and the mini huns are looking into joining the Belarus League........They can both relate to the President of that country.

He wears a very fetching hat -

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-belarus-dictator-hiding-death-toll-in-lone-stand-against-lockdown-9bmccgt5f

Scheister.

Squealing pig
11-04-2020, 06:05 PM
Lost in kickback for some time there , excellent reading material lol they r raging 😂 pleasing ?

Joe6-2
11-04-2020, 06:12 PM
What gets me is Hearts fans talking about how this is vindication that 'Vlad' was correct all along and we are seeing proof that Scottish football is corrupt and so on.

What they are ignoring is that if any other team was currently bottom of the league, Hearts would have voted for the proposals in exactly the same way and for the same reasons that Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic et al have. Scottish football may well be corrupt but they would have been quite happy to have been complicit in that corruption if it was in their interests.

As they were with mad Vlads corruption

tamig
11-04-2020, 06:14 PM
He was

And I’m sure free agents are still allowed to sign outside of the window up to the end of March/early April - which he did. No special dispensation required as has already been mentioned.

AltheHibby
11-04-2020, 06:16 PM
They are all excited over there because this all proves that Mr Romanov was right about Scottish football being corrupt.

Less self awareness than Trump that lot.

MagicSwirlingShip
11-04-2020, 06:22 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

Don't apologise for being the Hibs.net Covid-19 highlight thus far :thumbsup:

Broken Gnome
11-04-2020, 06:31 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

Far from p!ssed off, I just thought you were off your rocker. Delighted it turns out you had a damn fine excuse.

Jim44
11-04-2020, 06:32 PM
They’re going apoplectic about Doncaster and the SPFL. Now, I can’t stand the man and am indifferent to him getting grief, but should they not be aiming their ire at Dundee for the shambles. If they wanted to register ‘no’, why didn’t they, after all the confusion, just say ‘we are voting ‘no’. End of story. Not the end I would have wanted but, well, that’s democracy. Or am I missing something here?

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 06:32 PM
Far from p!ssed off, I just thought you were off your rocker. Delighted it turns out you had a damn fine excuse.

You mean a dram fine excuse

HoboHarry
11-04-2020, 06:37 PM
They’re going apoplectic about Doncaster and the SPFL. Now, I can’t stand the man and am indifferent to him getting grief, but should they not be aiming their ire at Dundee for the shambles. If they wanted to register ‘no’, why didn’t they, after all the confusion, just say ‘we are voting ‘no’. End of story. Not the end I would have wanted but, we’ll, that’s democracy. Or am I missing something here?

Yes you are. Intellectually you are higher on the evolutionary scale than jambos are.

Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 06:46 PM
They’re going apoplectic about Doncaster and the SPFL. Now, I can’t stand the man and am indifferent to him getting grief, but should they not be aiming their ire at Dundee for the shambles. If they wanted to register ‘no’, why didn’t they, after all the confusion, just say ‘we are voting ‘no’. End of story. Not the end I would have wanted but, well, that’s democracy. Or am I missing something here?

If Dundee end up voting yes they are just bringing themselves in line with the majority of Scottish football clubs. No blame should be attached.


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DaveF
11-04-2020, 07:00 PM
******* hell!

I’m reading back and genuinely cringing at what I was writing last night/this morning.
It’s fair to assume that I had a couple of shandies down me and was looking for bites.
That’s actually very out of character for me. I apologise to anyone I managed to piss off.

😁👍

Carheenlea
11-04-2020, 07:01 PM
Not caught up with all the posts on here in last 24 hrs so probably old news, but I just googled “Scottish Championship teams” at the request of a mate and it was a genuine laugh out loud.

:lolyam:

Hibby70
11-04-2020, 07:03 PM
Not caught up with all the posts on here in last 24 hrs so probably old news, but I just googled “Scottish Championship teams” at the request of a mate and it was a genuine laugh out loud.

:lolyam:
😂

hibbyfraelibby
11-04-2020, 07:07 PM
No dispensation is required if a player is a free agent when the transfer window closes. I'll stand corrected but Conrad Logan I'm pretty sure was a free agent when he signed for us.

Correct

TheHarpy76
11-04-2020, 07:14 PM
Don't apologise for being the Hibs.net Covid-19 highlight thus far :thumbsup:

Glad to hear it :greengrin

O'Rourke3
11-04-2020, 07:15 PM
Not caught up with all the posts on here in last 24 hrs so probably old news, but I just googled “Scottish Championship teams” at the request of a mate and it was a genuine laugh out loud.

[emoji38]yam:[emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Joe6-2
11-04-2020, 07:30 PM
Not caught up with all the posts on here in last 24 hrs so probably old news, but I just googled “Scottish Championship teams” at the request of a mate and it was a genuine laugh out loud.

:lolyam:

They know!

Since452
11-04-2020, 07:48 PM
Can we all go out in our gardens at 3pm tomorrow and applaud to show our support for these clubs Hearts are going to bankrupt by boycotting them?

The 90+2
11-04-2020, 07:51 PM
What gets me is Hearts fans talking about how this is vindication that 'Vlad' was correct all along and we are seeing proof that Scottish football is corrupt and so on.

What they are ignoring is that if any other team was currently bottom of the league, Hearts would have voted for the proposals in exactly the same way and for the same reasons that Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic et al have. Scottish football may well be corrupt but they would have been quite happy to have been complicit in that corruption if it was in their interests.

Yep. Also slagging Aberdeen and us for “taking the Celtic boaby” (they are strangely obsessed with anal sex) while never acknowledging that if it was any other team bottom of the league they would have voted similar instead of acting like some kind of justice fighters.

Joe6-2
11-04-2020, 07:52 PM
Yep. Also slagging Aberdeen and us for “taking the Celtic boaby” (they are strangely obsessed with anal sex) while never acknowledging that if it was any other team bottom of the league they would have voted similar instead of acting like some kind of justice fighters.

Maybe they’re obsession is because they are bottom!!

Glory Lurker
11-04-2020, 07:57 PM
Not caught up with all the posts on here in last 24 hrs so probably old news, but I just googled “Scottish Championship teams” at the request of a mate and it was a genuine laugh out loud.

:lolyam:


:faf::faf: And where have Dundee gone??

Dinnae google “Scottish Premiership teams”, though :boo hoo:

Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 08:03 PM
Yep. Also slagging Aberdeen and us for “taking the Celtic boaby” (they are strangely obsessed with anal sex) while never acknowledging that if it was any other team bottom of the league they would have voted similar instead of acting like some kind of justice fighters.

Yip, according to Kickback this is all being orchestrated by Peter Lawell. I’m not sure why CELTIC would get involved? So long as it’s not ‘null and void’, and it appears nobody wants that, then Celtic have no worries whatever is decided? If the vote is to complete the season in August and risk the new season, then Celtic have the deepest pockets in Scotland so will be more than prepared to wait. They would have no fears whatsoever on a sporting front with a 13 point league with 8 to play. I think they would be more than happy to play the games.
So I’m wondering why they think Lawell is the one putting pressure on all the clubs?


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PatHead
11-04-2020, 08:10 PM
Yep. Also slagging Aberdeen and us for “taking the Celtic boaby” (they are strangely obsessed with anal sex) while never acknowledging that if it was any other team bottom of the league they would have voted similar instead of acting like some kind of justice fighters.

All they needed to do was beat St Mirren and they didn't.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 08:10 PM
Yip, according to Kickback this is all being orchestrated by Peter Lawell. I’m not sure why CELTIC would get involved? So long as it’s not ‘null and void’, and it appears nobody wants that, then Celtic have no worries whatever is decided? If the vote is to complete the season in August and risk the new season, then Celtic have the deepest pockets in Scotland so will be more than prepared to wait. They would have no fears whatsoever on a sporting front with a 13 point league with 8 to play. I think they would be more than happy to play the games.
So I’m wondering why they think Lawell is the one putting pressure on all the clubs?


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Celtic would win the league if it was to be played at all/behind closed doors
I can’t understand why they would want to get involved in this?

Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 08:12 PM
To play the victim card.

How so?


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Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 08:13 PM
Celtic would win the league if it was to be played at all/behind closed doors
I can’t understand why they would want to get involved in this?

And if Celtic say fine, let’s just finish it behind closed doors etc, then they are one of the few clubs who could afford that.


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PatHead
11-04-2020, 08:16 PM
How so?


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Sorry I was reading another post about sevco and quoted the wrong one.

Ozyhibby
11-04-2020, 08:21 PM
Sorry I was reading another post about sevco and quoted the wrong one.

No worries.[emoji106]


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Greenfly
11-04-2020, 08:22 PM
He wears a very fetching hat -

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-belarus-dictator-hiding-death-toll-in-lone-stand-against-lockdown-9bmccgt5f (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-belarus-dictator-hiding-death-toll-in-lone-stand-against-lockdown-9bmccgt5f)

Scheister.

Did it work against Dumbarton?

Billy Whizz
11-04-2020, 08:22 PM
And if Celtic say fine, let’s just finish it behind closed doors etc, then they are one of the few clubs who could afford that.


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They voted to end the league now.
If the league Season was to be played to a finish, they’d win it by a mile, and we’d have no questions against them winning it fair and square

Pagan Hibernia
11-04-2020, 08:31 PM
Yep. Also slagging Aberdeen and us for “taking the Celtic boaby” (they are strangely obsessed with anal sex) while never acknowledging that if it was any other team bottom of the league they would have voted similar instead of acting like some kind of justice fighters.

cant imagine the cardigan wearers being very adventurous in the bedroom.

missionary men.

Hillsidehibby
11-04-2020, 09:06 PM
Did it work against Dumbarton?

and other schiest like that

jacomo
11-04-2020, 09:10 PM
What gets me is Hearts fans talking about how this is vindication that 'Vlad' was correct all along and we are seeing proof that Scottish football is corrupt and so on.

What they are ignoring is that if any other team was currently bottom of the league, Hearts would have voted for the proposals in exactly the same way and for the same reasons that Hibs, Aberdeen, Celtic et al have. Scottish football may well be corrupt but they would have been quite happy to have been complicit in that corruption if it was in their interests.


Of course they would have. With indecent haste too, if they were in 10th or 11th and it spared them from relegation.

They are a bunch of self-serving cheats.

Gloucester Hibs
11-04-2020, 09:15 PM
And if Celtic say fine, let’s just finish it behind closed doors etc, then they are one of the few clubs who could afford that.


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Exactly - other than null and void - whatever way the cards fall Celtic emerge as champions. Why would they want to get involved in this mess?

CockneyRebel
12-04-2020, 08:34 AM
No dispensation is required if a player is a free agent when the transfer window closes. I'll stand corrected but Conrad Logan I'm pretty sure was a free agent when he signed for us.


I stand corrected - I was under the impression that Conrad was still on Leicester's books at the time we signed him. I will punish myself by staying in for a month.

Crazyhorse
12-04-2020, 08:39 AM
Exactly - other than null and void - whatever way the cards fall Celtic emerge as champions. Why would they want to get involved in this mess?

Of course the yams would quickly abandon the zombie huns if there was a vote on that weird Dundee solution of awarding titles with no promotion or relegation.
The no alliance all want different outcomes and it will fall to pieces fairly soon I would think.

green day
12-04-2020, 09:23 AM
Of course the yams would quickly abandon the zombie huns if there was a vote on that weird Dundee solution of awarding titles with no promotion or relegation.
The no alliance all want different outcomes and it will fall to pieces fairly soon I would think.

Good to see Dundee Utd have maintained a dignified silence in all of this.

They have spent a fortune to ensure promotion and there is no way they would accept "the title" without the promotion it deserves.

Clearly the flipside of this argument is that - if you promote the winners, you must relegate the bottom sides.

Its all fairly simple, and points to why so many clubs have voted Yes (regardless of Rangers / Hearts / ICT / Dundee conspiracy theories).

JohnMcM
12-04-2020, 09:54 AM
Good to see Dundee Utd have maintained a dignified silence in all of this.

They have spent a fortune to ensure promotion and there is no way they would accept "the title" without the promotion it deserves.

Clearly the flipside of this argument is that - if you promote the winners, you must relegate the bottom sides.

Its all fairly simple, and points to why so many clubs have voted Yes (regardless of Rangers / Hearts / ICT / Dundee conspiracy theories).

Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.
:greengrin

Real Emerald
12-04-2020, 09:56 AM
EUEFA needs to step in and have a blanket rule to end all leagues with average points etc. No league reconstructions unless already planned. If they don’t then there will infighting and bad blood across all leagues with clubs blaming each other for acting in self interest or doing over bitter rivals. It’s crazy allowing leagues to decide their own fate this way. There may be exceptions of course due to how many games were left in certain leagues but a blanket ruling from EUEFA for those who have played the majority of their seasons is a must

Sudds_1
12-04-2020, 10:05 AM
Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.
:greengrin

Ah....but he only had 1 ball 😆

jacomo
12-04-2020, 10:12 AM
EUEFA needs to step in and have a blanket rule to end all leagues with average points etc. No league reconstructions unless already planned. If they don’t then there will infighting and bad blood across all leagues with clubs blaming each other for acting in self interest or doing over bitter rivals. It’s crazy allowing leagues to decide their own fate this way. There may be exceptions of course due to how many games were left in certain leagues but a blanket ruling from EUEFA for those who have played the majority of their seasons is a must


Who are EUEFA?

green day
12-04-2020, 10:19 AM
Who are EUEFA?

They sell euefa thin mints

jacomo
12-04-2020, 10:27 AM
They sell euefa thin mints


Ah, Papists. I knew it!!

Greenworld
12-04-2020, 10:30 AM
Heres another corruption theory inverness struck a deal with rangers and hearts for a pot of money if they could persuade enough clubs in the championship to vote no . A chat group was formed between dundee ,inverness, partick , to conspire to achieve this goal .
The SPFL got wind of this and spoke to the club with least to gain from this agreement Dundee.
Rangers raging that their plan could come undone through everything at the
SPFL as attempted cover for their plan.
Dundee think **** it let's play the game we could get a lot more if we could get into the premier via reconstruction.
So watch and let's see if this happens it won't be a 14 team league put forward but a 16 team league then we know what really happened [emoji6]

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greenginger
12-04-2020, 10:34 AM
Heres another corruption theory inverness struck a deal with rangers and hearts for a pot of money if they could persuade enough clubs in the championship to vote no . A chat group was formed between dundee ,inverness, partick , to conspire to achieve this goal .
The SPFL got wind of this and spoke to the club with least to gain from this agreement Dundee.
Rangers raging that their plan could come undone through everything at the
SPFL as attempted cover for their plan.
Dundee think **** it let's play the game we could get a lot more if we could get into the premier via reconstruction.
So watch and let's see if this happens it won't be a 14 team league put forward but a 16 team league then we know what really happened [emoji6]

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And Sky say , thanks but , no thanks, instead of £ 30 million a season to cover Scottish football we’ll give you 5 Bob.

Springbank
12-04-2020, 10:43 AM
Heres another corruption theory inverness struck a deal with rangers and hearts for a pot of money if they could persuade enough clubs in the championship to vote no . A chat group was formed between dundee ,inverness, partick , to conspire to achieve this goal .
The SPFL got wind of this and spoke to the club with least to gain from this agreement Dundee.
Rangers raging that their plan could come undone through everything at the
SPFL as attempted cover for their plan.
Dundee think **** it let's play the game we could get a lot more if we could get into the premier via reconstruction.
So watch and let's see if this happens it won't be a 14 team league put forward but a 16 team league then we know what really happened [emoji6]

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Interesting that Hearts engineered a situation where they had not registered a vote by 5pm

Personally I think rangers & hearts needed it to succeed (for the money) and the hoo-ha is all about optics for their fan bases

Play the victim card to sustain season book numbers during the championship season (hearts) or the 10 in a row season (rangers)

jacomo
12-04-2020, 10:57 AM
Interesting that Hearts engineered a situation where they had not registered a vote by 5pm

Personally I think rangers & hearts needed it to succeed (for the money) and the hoo-ha is all about optics for their fan bases

Play the victim card to sustain season book numbers during the championship season (hearts) or the 10 in a row season (rangers)


Pathetic isn’t it? Even more so that we are now resigned to this behaviour.

Greenworld
12-04-2020, 10:59 AM
And Sky say , thanks but , no thanks, instead of £ 30 million a season to cover Scottish football we’ll give you 5 Bob.I don't disagree i think there is Zero chance of league change due to what u said

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Real Emerald
12-04-2020, 11:06 AM
Who are EUEFA?

I’ll blame my phone! 😊

CapitalGreen
12-04-2020, 11:24 AM
Interesting that Hearts engineered a situation where they had not registered a vote by 5pm

Personally I think rangers & hearts needed it to succeed (for the money) and the hoo-ha is all about optics for their fan bases

Play the victim card to sustain season book numbers during the championship season (hearts) or the 10 in a row season (rangers)

Dundee are also in this boat. They need the money but didn’t want to be seen to vote for an option that gave the title to their rivals.

Billy Whizz
12-04-2020, 11:27 AM
Dundee are also in this boat. They need the money but didn’t want to be seen to vote for an option that gave the title to their rivals.

Agree with that view

Springbank
12-04-2020, 11:59 AM
Dundee are also in this boat. They need the money but didn’t want to be seen to vote for an option that gave the title to their rivals.

Agree too, and then theres also the small print of the DFC insurance policy insuring them against loss of income to think about.

If they vote No then that implies their remaining games this season are still to be played (so the income hasn't been lost - yet - just delayed, perhaps meaning no pay out).

If they vote Yes, then the games are definitely off, but the policy still might not pay out as DFC had the chance to play them (later this year) but choose not to, by voting Yes.

If that is close to being accurate then Dundee's only sure & certain income before Autumn will be by voting Yes, ending the season & taking the prize money (utd up, hearts down, prizes handed out & prize monies paid out to all)

It's a theory....

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 12:00 PM
Dundee are also in this boat. They need the money but didn’t want to be seen to vote for an option that gave the title to their rivals.

Yeah and have now been put in a terrible position with the votes being shared before they had all been received. Terrible from the SPFL

Since452
12-04-2020, 12:16 PM
I don't blame the SPFL really. Clubs up and down the country including Hibs were releasing statements saying which way they voted. Can't blame the SPFL for that.

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 12:19 PM
I don't blame the SPFL really. Clubs up and down the country including Hibs were releasing statements saying which way they voted. Can't blame the SPFL for that.

You can blame them for the way it has ended up with everyone now knowing it lies in the hands of Dundee. Even though there were some statements, I bet you at 5 o’clock on Friday you weren’t able to say what clubs had voted yes/no until the SPFL release the figures

007
12-04-2020, 12:29 PM
It seems to me a bit hypocritical of Rangers in their statement a couple of days ago to say clubs were being coerced and bullied into voting for the SPFL resolution when their little brother's representative Budge freely admitted calling clubs about it. She said it was to see how they'd be voting but I very much doubt she didn't try to persuade (coerce) them into voting against it.

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rangers-football-club-members-update/

jacomo
12-04-2020, 12:33 PM
Yeah and have now been put in a terrible position with the votes being shared before they had all been received. Terrible from the SPFL


Again, why?

Why did you expect this should be a secret ballot? Hibs fans quite reasonably wanted to know how our club voted, so SPFL only released info that would come out anyhow.

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 12:51 PM
Again, why?

Why did you expect this should be a secret ballot? Hibs fans quite reasonably wanted to know how our club voted, so SPFL only released info that would come out anyhow.

It’s nothing about knowing which clubs have voted which way. Dundee may now change their vote knowing that 85% of the other clubs have voted a certain way. That can’t be right!!

jacomo
12-04-2020, 01:18 PM
It’s nothing about knowing which clubs have voted which way. Dundee may now change their vote knowing that 85% of the other clubs have voted a certain way. That can’t be right!!


And how would you stop it?

Even if clubs resisted pressure to communicate their decision with their fans (which I don’t think is tenable), club chairman would be communicating with each other.

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 01:20 PM
And how would you stop it?

Even if clubs resisted pressure to communicate their decision with their fans (which I don’t think is tenable), club chairman would be communicating with each other.

And that’s fine, you would probably never stop that. But the governing body shouldn’t be coming out and handing the results out before all the votes are in imo

The 90+2
12-04-2020, 01:52 PM
And that’s fine, you would probably never stop that. But the governing body shouldn’t be coming out and handing the results out before all the votes are in imo

What are they supposed to say in the statement as to there not being any results yet? They didn’t mention Dundee by name either.

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 02:04 PM
What are they supposed to say in the statement as to there not being any results yet? They didn’t mention Dundee by name either.

“Results will be issued once all votes have been received”

No that difficult

The 90+2
12-04-2020, 02:09 PM
“Results will be issued once all votes have been received”

No that difficult

It still wouldn’t have been difficult to realise what club was missing in voting - especially when you have the Inverness ring piece on the radio spouting what he was yesterday.

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 02:12 PM
It still wouldn’t have been difficult to realise what club was missing in voting - especially when you have the Inverness ring piece on the radio spouting what he was yesterday.

And that’s fine. Nothing can be done about that. It’s like me telling u who I have voted for in the election. The government wouldn’t share results without having all votes cast

The 90+2
12-04-2020, 02:18 PM
And that’s fine. Nothing can be done about that. It’s like me telling u who I have voted for in the election. The government wouldn’t share results without having all votes cast

Again, they didn’t reveal any clubs name.

What if the chat between the clubs was classified as highly confidentially?

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 02:21 PM
Again, they didn’t reveal any clubs name.

What if the chat between the clubs was classified as highly confidentially?

I’m no really sure where you are going with this

Onion
12-04-2020, 02:23 PM
And that’s fine. Nothing can be done about that. It’s like me telling u who I have voted for in the election. The government wouldn’t share results without having all votes cast

And there you have it.

They might just be excused if the result was already conclusive, irrespective of the missing votes but that was not the case on Fri. The whole thing reeks, at a time when the authorities needed to be at their most professional.

They would have been much better to say nothing until all the votes were in, in good order and decisive. Instead all they've done is contribute to the confusion and conspiracy theories. Bunch of amateurs.

BoomtownHibees
12-04-2020, 02:26 PM
And there you have it.

They might just be excused if the result was already conclusive, irrespective of the missing votes but that was not the case on Fri. The whole thing reeks, at a time when the authorities needed to be at their most professional.

They would have been much better to say nothing until all the votes were in, in good order and decisive. Instead all they've done is contribute to the confusion and conspiracy theories. Bunch of amateurs.

Spot on

Keith_M
12-04-2020, 02:42 PM
Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.
:greengrin


The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.


Two 8's together is 88.

The letter 'H' is the eight letter of the alphabet.

Do that twice and you get HH

Which stands for Heil Hitler

Celtic were formed in 1888


Coincidence?

I think not.

hibbyfraelibby
12-04-2020, 02:48 PM
Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.
:greengrin

Ah but he only had one ball...the other was in the Albert Hall apparently.

NAE NOOKIE
12-04-2020, 04:53 PM
In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

Billy Whizz
12-04-2020, 04:57 PM
In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

You could see the likes of St Mirren/Hamilton/Ross County etc voting for a 14 team league, but they need 11 teams do get it through

Really is an undemocratic way of doing things, I may add

B.H.F.C
12-04-2020, 05:01 PM
In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

Genuine question here. What do you see as the benefit of moving to 14 teams? For me it reduces prize money and probably the quality of the league (which isn’t exactly high as it is) as well.

green day
12-04-2020, 05:07 PM
Genuine question here. What do you see as the benefit of moving to 14 teams? For me it reduces prize money and probably the quality of the league (which isn’t exactly high as it is) as well.
Agreed. Dundee Utd will be a welcome addition, but ICT? They are garbage.

RoYO!
12-04-2020, 05:10 PM
So when do the rangers get done for bringing the game into disrepute?!

I wonder what could possibly be a fair punishment for this behaviour?!

Ozyhibby
12-04-2020, 05:13 PM
In spite of my stance on this, which I've made clear on other threads, when you look at the 'vote' thread on Jumbo Sickbag it really is hard to find any sympathy for them as a club, or for their fans for that matter, they really do think they are something special.

My take on this is that permanent reconstruction to 14 clubs is the best way to go, for everybody's sake and how that benefits them in particular isn't a factor in my thinking. But for all that if the final outcome is that they end up in the championship when we finally do get a season I'll probably laugh along with everybody else ... f'ing roasters the lot of them.

Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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Joe6-2
12-04-2020, 05:13 PM
So when do the rangers get done for bringing the game into disrepute?!

I wonder what could possibly be a fair punishment for this behaviour?!

You really expect them to be punished?

munchar
12-04-2020, 05:17 PM
Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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So we increase to 14 teams for one season, & most probably, Hearts will get 1 or 2 in on big wages & be nowhere near relegation. Meanwhile, Hamilton, Ross Co, St. Mirren etc will once again try & survive, when there will be 2 or maybe 3 going down. Who’s going to vote for that?

Caversham Green
12-04-2020, 05:18 PM
Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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The only problem that solves is the one that HoMFC have imposed on themselves.

Joe6-2
12-04-2020, 05:18 PM
Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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Herts have some nerve, hide, brass neck, f****** cheek!!

660
12-04-2020, 05:19 PM
Reconstruction won’t happen you daft old boot give it up

O'Rourke3
12-04-2020, 05:23 PM
The 14 team league is unworkable. Theres at least half a dozen teams who wont know whether to expect 18 or 19 home games. For any split to work both halves have to be the same size. 8 teams in the bottom half make many of the games less attractive so despite more games the costs of putting them may be bigger than the receipts.

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Jim44
12-04-2020, 05:26 PM
Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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No ..... that’s only to temporarily save their own necks. I wouldn’t back that crap for a minute, but I would reluctantly accept it, or some other restructure as, a permanent move. Bottom line for me tho’ is the league stops now and they prepare for a new season of the league as it stands ........ well, without Hearts of course. :greengrin:

Since452
12-04-2020, 05:41 PM
Boke inducing Rangers/Hearts love in

BroxburnHibee
12-04-2020, 05:46 PM
No another ******* statement!!!

NAE NOOKIE
12-04-2020, 05:46 PM
Genuine question here. What do you see as the benefit of moving to 14 teams? For me it reduces prize money and probably the quality of the league (which isn’t exactly high as it is) as well.

I outlined at length what I thought were the benefits on other threads and got the usual kicking for the length of my posts ... but just for you :greengrin Before I do start I will admit that this is based on a fantasy land where Scottish football isn't populated by a bunch of greedy / self serving bassas, but instead by 42 clubs all with the overall good of the game at heart and looking out for each other.

1) ... A 14 team league wouldn't IMO dilute the quality of the league ( such as it is ) by any measurable amount, its only two more clubs ... Dundee Utd looked a decent side when they came to ER and I'm sure most of the top half of the championship could give the bottom half of the premiership a run for their money.

2) ... As this situation is highlighting all to well most of our clubs operate hand to mouth. A bigger top division would provide more opportunity to clubs to dine at the top table with the higher income that provides through crowds and prize / TV money .. albeit slightly reduced from a 12 team set up.

3) ... A bigger league would provide for 2 automatic relegation spots and a play off spot. Home and away play offs between 11th & 12th in the premiership and 3rd & 4th in the championship with the championship winners playing the premiership losers in a one off game at a neutral venue ... that would be a pretty exciting event IMO and keep interest in the bottom half boiling over with an 8/6 split after the first home and away round of fixtures, considering practically all of that bottom 8 would probably be in danger of relegation at the split and for most of the rest of the season.

4) ... All that would enable any club relegated a better opportunity not to languish for years in the championship and also provide an avenue back for the likes of Dunfermline or Ayr Utd ... both clubs with more potential than Hamilton or Ross County.

That's the bottom line for me, to help ensure as many of our clubs as possible, and especially the ones trying manfully against the current odds to stay full time, are protected from the worst consequences of relegation ... I can't see how that's a bad thing and if it benefits Hearts in this instance that's a consequence I would grit my teeth and live with because of the overall benefits as I see them.

NAE NOOKIE
12-04-2020, 06:01 PM
Hearts proposal is for a temporary move to 14 teams for one season. Will you back that proposal?


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No, for the simple reason that the purpose of it would be nothing more than to serve Hearts and wouldn't be for the overall good of the game. I've always supported a bigger league because I think it would benefit our game and many of our clubs but that has to be on an ongoing basis, not just to keep Hearts, or any other club for that matter, in the league for a season until they can sort their own mess out .... This has to be for the good of everybody, not just one selfish club.

A Hi-Bee
12-04-2020, 06:18 PM
**** the hertz are they no doon yet?

hhibs
12-04-2020, 06:26 PM
Conspiracy you say. Many would agree with you.

Look at this example. The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.

Hitler had 2 eyes.

Coincidence?

I think not.
:greengrin

:top marks

Aldoo
12-04-2020, 06:30 PM
No, for the simple reason that the purpose of it would be nothing more than to serve Hearts and wouldn't be for the overall good of the game. I've always supported a bigger league because I think it would benefit our game and many of our clubs but that has to be on an ongoing basis, not just to keep Hearts, or any other club for that matter, in the league for a season until they can sort their own mess out .... This has to be for the good of everybody, not just one selfish club.

An alternative selfish way to look at reconstruction from a Hibs point of view is to see a permanent move to a 14 team league should ensure Hibs are never relegated again. We have in the past and it’s not too far fetched to think It could happen again where Hibs are relegated in a 12 team format.
Our worst ever team in my lifetime (42 years) went down in the current format and we were still just 10 seconds away from staying up that year, surely 14 teams is enough of a cushion for us to suffer the inevitable dips we will see in the quality of future Hibs teams and not suffer anything worse than a 10th/11th place finish.

JohnMcM
12-04-2020, 06:37 PM
The word 'conspiracy' has 10 letters. The word 'conspire' has 8 letters. 10-8=2.


Two 8's together is 88.

The letter 'H' is the eight letter of the alphabet.

Do that twice and you get HH

Which stands for Heil Hitler

Celtic were formed in 1888


Coincidence?

I think not.

:thumbsup:

Ozyhibby
12-04-2020, 06:39 PM
An alternative selfish way to look at reconstruction from a Hibs point of view is to see a permanent move to a 14 team league should ensure Hibs are never relegated again. We have in the past and it’s not too far fetched to think It could happen again where Hibs are relegated in a 12 team format.
Our worst ever team in my lifetime (42 years) went down in the current format and we were still just 10 seconds away from staying up that year, surely 14 teams is enough of a cushion for us to suffer the inevitable dips we will see in the quality of future Hibs teams and not suffer anything worse than a 10th/11th place finish.

Nothing is passing a vote that costs the top clubs money. Doesn’t matter how good an idea it is.


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