Summer transfer thread 2024/25

[SHODAN]

Confirmed in (11):
Kieron Bowie, four year contract (striker, Fulham)
Josef Bursik, one year loan (goalkeeper, Club Brugge)
Nicky Cadden, three year contract (midfielder, Barnsley)
Marvin Ekpiteta, three year contract (defender, Blackpool)
Junior Hoilett, one year contract (midfielder, Aberdeen)
Jack Iredale, two year contract (defender, Bolton)
Hyeokkyu Kwon, one year loan (midfielder, Celtic)
Mykola Kuharevich, one year loan (striker, Swansea)
Warren O'Hora, three year contract (defender, MK Dons)
Jordan Smith, two year contract (goalkeeper, Stockport)
Nectarios Triantis, one year loan (midfielder, Sunderland)

Confirmed new contracts (2):
Kanayo Megwa (four years)
Joe Newell (three years)

Confirmed out (13):
Jacob Blaney (Crusaders)
Will Fish (Man Utd)
Paul Hanlon (Raith)
Riley Harbottle (Wimbledon)
Ewan Henderson (Beerschot)
Dan MacKay (Partick)
Emiliano Marcondes (Bournemouth)
Myziane Maolida (Hertha)
David Marshall (retired)
Eliezer Mayenda (Sunderland)
Dylan Tait (Falkirk)
Lewis Stevenson (Raith)
Jojo Wollacott (Crawley)

Confirmed out on loan (11):
Murray Aiken (Airdrie)
Allan Delferriere (Racing-Union)
Murray Johnson (Airdrie)
Reuben McAllister (Cove)
Kyle McClelland (Coleraine)
Oscar McIntyre (QOS)
Josh O'Connor (Dundalk)
Freddie Owens (Civil Service)
Jair Tavares (Motherwell)
Dylan Vente (Zwolle)
Malik Zaid (Annan)

[Unseen work]

Is there actually genuine rumours about Kerr and Dennis? Or just people guessing/hoping

[Nicho87]

Confirmed in (0):
N/A

Confirmed new contracts (0):
N/A

Confirmed returned from loan (0):
N/A

Confirmed out (0):
N/A

Confirmed out on loan (0):
N/A

Rumoured in:
Will Dennis (goalkeeper, Kilmarnock)
Jason Kerr (defender, Wigan)
Myziane Maolida (striker, Hertha)

Rumoured new contracts:
N/A

Rumoured out:
Paul Hanlon
Adam Le Fondre
Lewis Stevenson

Rumoured out?

You’ve missed about another 35 players

[Percy Vere]

Surely the rumoured out is lengthy.
McKay
Tait
Jair
Fish
Marshall
Wallacott
Triantis
Doyle Hayes
Henderson
Etc etc etc

[Tambo]

A very busy summer ahead, especially with the outgoings. We should do some buy one get one free offers.

[Centre Hawf]

I know it's in the list of rumoured out but i'll stick it in anyway.

ALF set to leave - https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/adam-le-fondre-leave-hibs-32737850

I liked him and would have probably kept him for another season on a team friendly wage but if he's offski then we need to be playing Vente from the start the final three games and giving younger lads minutes.

[Ronniekirk]

Confirmed in (0):
N/A

Confirmed new contracts (0):
N/A

Confirmed returned from loan (0):
N/A

Confirmed out (0):
N/A

Confirmed out on loan (0):
N/A

Rumoured in:
Will Dennis (goalkeeper, Kilmarnock)
Jason Kerr (defender, Wigan)
Myziane Maolida (striker, Hertha)

Rumoured new contracts:
N/A

Rumoured out:
Paul Hanlon
Adam Le Fondre
Lewis Stevenson

and assume no Pre Contracts signed

[04Sauzee]

and assume no Pre Contracts signed

Non that have been announced.
There has been chat that a GK has been signed but no names. Not sure why we would not announce it if we have signed a GK on a pre?

[Ronniekirk]

Surely the rumoured out is lengthy.
McKay
Tait
Jair
Fish
Marshall
Wallacott
Triantis
Doyle Hayes
Henderson
Etc etc etc

Doyle Hayes will need to prove he is fit and can stay fit before anyone would take him
Triantis is only a loan so will go back to Sunderland
who in Thier right mind would take Jair
McKay and Tait will be loaned out agsin as still under contract but not good enough
Henderson seems to have done well , but don’t know if they have option to buy
Based on yesterday no one will take Wallacott

[04Sauzee]

Boy talking about Youan , maybe got it off here somewhere

https://twitter.com/HibsCentral/status/1787126736783569085?t=tbhjlSDVZr2Dth2Tvb6UBQ&s=19

[JimBHibees]

Non that have been announced.
There has been chat that a GK has been signed but no names. Not sure why we would not announce it if we have signed a GK on a pre?

Quite common not to announce pre contracts as could impact if still playing to realise most leagues now finishing assume more will come out

[04Sauzee]

Quite common not to announce pre contracts as could impact if still playing to realise most leagues now finishing assume more will come out
Sounds reasonable tbh 👍

[GloryGlory]

Quite common not to announce pre contracts as could impact if still playing to realise most leagues now finishing assume more will come out

ISTR that Marshall had been signed on a pre contract a while prior to it being announced.

[Ronniekirk]

Sounds reasonable tbh 👍
Livingstone manager just confirmed they have made three pre signings but didn’t say who but said they would be announced soon

[Donegal Hibby]

Livingstone manager just confirmed they have made three pre signings but didn’t say who but said they would be announced soon

Don't they have a option to buy McKay from Hibs too ? .

[Bridge hibs]

Don't they have a option to buy McKay from Hibs too ? .

Think they are skint mate so would have to be a freebie with maybe a sell on clause

[bod]

Is there actually genuine rumours about Kerr and Dennis? Or just people guessing/hoping
Think it started by “ he’s a hibs supporter so we should sign him “ don’t think it’s a rumour as such

[Dmas]

Non that have been announced.
There has been chat that a GK has been signed but no names. Not sure why we would not announce it if we have signed a GK on a pre?

Maybe the lad who is currently at killie from Bournemouth no wanting to disrupt the end of the season?

[Donegal Hibby]

Think they are skint mate so would have to be a freebie with maybe a sell on clause

Forgot about that , still might be worthwhile to do what you suggest though if he's not in our plans though .👍

[PHeffernan]

Forgot about that , still might be worthwhile to do what you suggest though if he's not in our plans though .👍

McKay is probably good enough for a bottom 6 team and I could see him at Ross County.
Livingston have financial troubles and may be about to drop like a stone so not a place to stick around.

[B.H.F.C]

McKay is probably good enough for a bottom 6 team and I could see him at Ross County.
Livingston have financial troubles and may be about to drop like a stone so not a place to stick around.

Forgot all about him. The amount of dross we still have contracted, to come back in the summer, could be a real issue for us.

Henderson, McKirdy, Kenneh, McKay, Delferriere off the top of my head. Probably others that I have tried to forget about. And obviously a lot of younger players out on loan as well who will be less of an issue even if they don’t come back to contribute to the first team. Trying to get players off the books is going to be massive this summer.

[04Sauzee]

Mitov of St J picked up a number of POTY awards this evening

Goalkeeper Dimitar Mitov scooped the majority of trophies at our Player of the Year event for season 2023/24.

The Bulgarian shot-stopper was presented with 11 awards in total at the Salutation Hotel in Perth on Sunday evening.

[PHeffernan]

Forgot all about him. The amount of dross we still have contracted, to come back in the summer, could be a real issue for us.

Henderson, McKirdy, Kenneh, McKay, Delferriere off the top of my head. Probably others that I have tried to forget about. And obviously a lot of younger players out on loan as well who will be less of an issue even if they don’t come back to contribute to the first team. Trying to get players off the books is going to be massive this summer.

McKirdy at 28 has been a total and catastrophic failure and we will be paying him a shedfu of money for another year.

The rest of those out on loan aged 21-24 have to be reassessed, it's now or never for a lot of them:

Henderson has just turned 24 and played well on loan in Belgium. Oostende have an option to buy but are skint. Could be ready for Hibs now.

McKay has just turned 23 and has done okay at Livingston when not injured. Again there is a possibility he is close to being ready but will probably end up a bottom 6 club player.

Tait is 22 but I don't see him making it at Hibs. Will almost certainly be moved on this summer with a sell on clause inserted just in case.

Delferriere has just turned 22 and the club in the Czech Republic have an option to buy. I can't see it happening so again a reassesment will happen.

Kenneh is only 21 but has played 71 games in the last 2 seasons in our league and the English 1st Division. A great defensive mid butwas guff on the ball and a poor passer. Needs reassesed although I believe he still has the same issues.

Borus is 21 and has been at Arbroath since January. Has had plenty match practice.

McClelland is 22 and has been at QOS where he has progressed well.

Harbottle is the other senior out on loan. He's 23 and has been out on loan since January. Bunged out on loan sharpish. What spooked them?

Can reassess all these guys now as all back at East Mains.

[B.H.F.C]

McKirdy at 28 has been a total and catastrophic failure and we will be paying him a shedfu of money for another year.

The rest of those out on loan aged 21-24 have to be reassessed, it's now or never for a lot of them:

Henderson has just turned 24 and played well on loan in Belgium. Oostende have an option to buy but are skint. Could be ready for Hibs now.

McKay has just turned 23 and has done okay at Livingston when not injured. Again there is a possibility he is close to being ready but will probably end up a bottom 6 club player.

Tait is 22 but I don't see him making it at Hibs. Will almost certainly be moved on this summer with a sell on clause inserted just in case.

Delferriere has just turned 22 and the club in the Czech Republic have an option to buy. I can't see it happening so again a reassesment will happen.

Kenneh is only 21 but has played 71 games in the last 2 seasons in our league and the English 1st Division. A great defensive mid butwas guff on the ball and a poor passer. Needs reassesed although I believe he still has the same issues.

Borus is 21 and has been at Arbroath since January. Has had plenty match practice.

McClelland is 22 and has been at QOS where he has progressed well.

Harbottle is the other senior out on loan. He's 23 and has been out on loan since January. Bunged out on loan sharpish. What spooked them?

Can reassess all these guys now as all back at East Mains.

I don’t think the a number of them need reassessed. I think everyone out on loan has been playing at a lower level and none, from what I can see, have stood out. That’s my biggest fear about the summer, someone new coming in and wanting to give boys like that a clean slate. Then, by October finding out it wasn’t a good idea.

[GordonHFC]

McKay is probably good enough for a bottom 6 team and I could see him at Ross County.
Livingston have financial troubles and may be about to drop like a stone so not a place to stick around.

We are a bottom six club and he isn't good enough for us.

[GreenCastle]

McKirdy at 28 has been a total and catastrophic failure and we will be paying him a shedfu of money for another year.

The rest of those out on loan aged 21-24 have to be reassessed, it's now or never for a lot of them:

Henderson has just turned 24 and played well on loan in Belgium. Oostende have an option to buy but are skint. Could be ready for Hibs now.

McKay has just turned 23 and has done okay at Livingston when not injured. Again there is a possibility he is close to being ready but will probably end up a bottom 6 club player.

Tait is 22 but I don't see him making it at Hibs. Will almost certainly be moved on this summer with a sell on clause inserted just in case.

Delferriere has just turned 22 and the club in the Czech Republic have an option to buy. I can't see it happening so again a reassesment will happen.

Kenneh is only 21 but has played 71 games in the last 2 seasons in our league and the English 1st Division. A great defensive mid butwas guff on the ball and a poor passer. Needs reassesed although I believe he still has the same issues.

Borus is 21 and has been at Arbroath since January. Has had plenty match practice.

McClelland is 22 and has been at QOS where he has progressed well.

Harbottle is the other senior out on loan. He's 23 and has been out on loan since January. Bunged out on loan sharpish. What spooked them?

Can reassess all these guys now as all back at East Mains.

Out of that list McKirdy is the only one who could possibly come in and do well but even then not fully convinced.

That list is scary the amount of players we are paying for zero return or very little as if they are sold will we make our money back or profit ?

The model of recruiting all these players has been a failure and can’t imagine it’s good for team morale. Imagine the players whats app groups etc and players out on loan talking about their experience at Hibs.

Hibs need to run a tighter ship and stop wasting so much money. Would love to know how much has been wasted.

[BoomtownHibees]

Out of that list McKirdy is the only one who could possibly come in and do well but even then not fully convinced.

That list is scary the amount of players we are paying for zero return or very little as if they are sold will we make our money back or profit ?

The model of recruiting all these players has been a failure and can’t imagine it’s good for team morale. Imagine the players whats app groups etc and players out on loan talking about their experience at Hibs.

Hibs need to run a tighter ship and stop wasting so much money. Would love to know how much has been wasted.

McKirdy has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he could come in and do well

[Haymaker]

:hyper

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[500miles]

McKirdy has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he could come in and do well

Agreed, probably has the least redeeming qualities of any of they players who had any kind of appearances over the last few years.

[Gloucester Hibs]

:hyper

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Bring him home 😃😂

[Coach Jon]

When you look at all the dross we have out on Loan, along with the clear out needed from the First Team squad, thats probably about 20 players who are not good enough to command a place in a team with minimum top 4 SPL aspirations. It doesnt take a genius to see that our recruitment has been a disaster.

[we are hibs]

Bourmemouth and Aston Villa being linked with Lennon Miller. Loan to Hibs next season if he goes Bournemouth?

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[04Sauzee]

Bourmemouth and Aston Villa being linked with Lennon Miller. Loan to Hibs next season if he goes Bournemouth?

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Possibly although you would almost think the best thing for either of these clubs to do would be to loan him back to Motherwell for a season. I don't think he's even 18 yet.

[CapitalGreen]

Bourmemouth and Aston Villa being linked with Lennon Miller. Loan to Hibs next season if he goes Bournemouth?

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We should ask them to buy David Watson too.

[HoboHarry]

When you look at all the dross we have out on Loan, along with the clear out needed from the First Team squad, thats probably about 20 players who are not good enough to command a place in a team with minimum top 4 SPL aspirations. It doesnt take a genius to see that our recruitment has been a disaster.
So if we replaced the 20 and additionally got rid of Kensall, Ian Gordon (as some on here want) and the manager what position in the league at seasons end would be acceptable?

[Unseen work]

Bourmemouth and Aston Villa being linked with Lennon Miller. Loan to Hibs next season if he goes Bournemouth?

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That would be absolutely fantastic.

[Gaffer1875]

3 players we should be interested in;

Liam Kelly - proven at this level
Jason Kerr - desperately need a strong CB or 3!
Ryan Jack - out of contract, still has 2-3 years left (I await the abuse!) [emoji23]


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[Lago]

3 players we should be interested in;

Liam Kelly - proven at this level
Jason Kerr - desperately need a strong CB or 3!
Ryan Jack - out of contract, still has 2-3 years left (I await the abuse!) [emoji23]


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Why would Ryan Jack take a wage cut to come to Hibs?

[Gaffer1875]

Why would Ryan Jack take a wage cut to come to Hibs?

He’s out of contract this summer and I reckon only us and hearts could compete with any realistic demands. I can’t see him going back to the sheep!


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[PHeffernan]

He’s out of contract this summer and I reckon only us and hearts could compete with any realistic demands. I can’t see him going back to the sheep!


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Jack is a good player but has only played 446 minutes of league football this season which equates to 5 games.
Kyle Magennis beats that every season and besides Amos already looks like he has the Magennis role covered.

He could go to Hearts and take over from their aye broken guys Haring and Baningime.
Perhaps back to Aberdeen to sit next to 34 year old Shinnie next season.

Weighing up the above I can see him at Hearts to play the European group games.

[Unseen work]

3 players we should be interested in;

Liam Kelly - proven at this level
Jason Kerr - desperately need a strong CB or 3!
Ryan Jack - out of contract, still has 2-3 years left (I await the abuse!) [emoji23]


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Motherwell fans don’t seem to rate Kelly at all, he’s been very poor this season by all accounts.

Kerr and Jack are no brainers imo however both had their injury troubles, can see Jack signing for hearts though.

[tonyrougier123]

You’d never keep Ryan Jack fit.

[badabing67]

Motherwell fans don’t seem to rate Kelly at all, he’s been very poor this season by all accounts.

Kerr and Jack are no brainers imo however both had their injury troubles, can see Jack signing for hearts though.

I don't think Liam Kelly will make the squad for Germany and I think there is better in the league such as Trevor Carson and Dimitar Mitov

[badabing67]

You’d never keep Ryan Jack fit.

And we already have Luke Amos and JDH we don't need another one.

[Unseen work]

I don't think Liam Kelly will make the squad for Germany and I think there is better in the league such as Trevor Carson and Dimitar Mitov

Yeah would agree, Hemming and Dennis are another two I’d take ahead of him

[JimBHibees]

Motherwell fans don’t seem to rate Kelly at all, he’s been very poor this season by all accounts.

Kerr and Jack are no brainers imo however both had their injury troubles, can see Jack signing for hearts though.

Personally don’t rate Kelly. Jack is a good player but very injury prone

[Forza Fred]

It would be good if we could get Leicester centre half Harry Souttar on loan.

No way could we afford to buy him, but Leicester are trying to offload him, and if nobody comes in to buy him, he’ll be sitting out the season or going somewhere on loan.

Monty would know his value from the Oz national team.

[04Sauzee]

It would be good if we could get Leicester centre half Harry Souttar on loan.

No way could we afford to buy him, but Leicester are trying to offload him, and if nobody comes in to buy him, he’ll be sitting out the season or going somewhere on loan.

Monty would know his value from the Oz national team.

Mentioned him to a friend the other day, he's not going to get a game for Leicester. Leicester won't get their money back for him. The best they can hope for is a cut price deal to get him off their books or a loan deal. Obviously on a fantastic wage at Leicester so it's more than probably a non starter.

[Tyler Durden]

It would be good if we could get Leicester centre half Harry Souttar on loan.

No way could we afford to buy him, but Leicester are trying to offload him, and if nobody comes in to buy him, he’ll be sitting out the season or going somewhere on loan.

Monty would know his value from the Oz national team.


That would be the £15m centre half?

Bit out of our league Fred

[JimBHibees]

That would be the £15m centre half?

Bit out of our league Fred

On loan possible but unlikely for us but English Championship teams would pick up imo

[CapitalGreen]

On loan possible but unlikely Championship teams would pick up imo

A bottom half Championship team would definitely take him on loan.

[JimBHibees]

A bottom half Championship team would definitely take him on loan.

My post wasn’t clear was trying to say English championship would pick him up.

[Forza Fred]

That would be the £15m centre half?

Bit out of our league Fred

Probably so.

But we’ve got players on loan just now who are in the same category.

[Hibernian Verse]

Probably so.

But we’ve got players on loan just now who are in the same category.

Maolida's transfer to Hertha was "only" 4m Euros. Marcondes has never moved for a fee.

[Bertie Wooster]

And we already have Luke Amos and JDH we don't need another one.

If we are supposed to be getting better levels of scouting,sport science and player analysis via our tie in with Bournemouth, these sort of players shouldn’t even be on our radar.
The smarter clubs will ignore these types of players as they aren’t value for money.
Sounds a bit Moneyball I know, but that will be the direction we should be heading

[Hibiza]

Surely the rumoured out is lengthy.
McKay
Tait
Jair
Fish
Marshall
Wallacott
Triantis
Doyle Hayes
Henderson
Etc etc etc

That's more like it.

[Springbank]

Mitov

Ryan Strain
Jason Kerr
AN Other CB (priority)
Jordan Obita

Luke McCowan
Nathan Moriah Welsh
Joe Newell

Martin Boyle/Elie Youan
AN Other Striker (physical, pacy, hardworking, Theo Bair type - priority)
Danny Armstrong

[Centre Hawf]

Ryan Jack is never fit. One I would go nowhere near now. Liam Kelly, not for me either ahead of some other names floating around.

I haven't heard anything and it's not an ITK shout but I reckon we could see Scott Bain rock up at Hibs this summer. Out of contract at Celtic and probably would like to stay around the central belt of Scotland for a few final years playing football as a number one. A wee two year deal while Muz Johnson goes out on loan in that time to go get experience. It ticks a lot of boxes, although he hasn't played a lot of football the last few years so would need to get up to speed sharp.

I also can see Baccus showing up too, fits the recruitment MO so far in picking up guys who have played international football and is a good age and free to sign.

Neither player really get me overly excited but you could probably make cases that they're better than players they're replacing in Bain > Marshall, and Baccus > JDH/Triantis. Seeing as we probably need to go out and sign 10 players this window they're not the worst starting points in the rebuild.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Confirmed Hanlon and Stevenson will be moving on from the club in the summer...

[JohnM1875]

Confirmed Hanlon and Stevenson will be moving on from the club in the summer...

We knew it was happening but still feels weird. Tribute for them at the Motherwell game next Wednesday.

[Centre Hawf]

I wasn’t prepared for this day at all it seems.

[MrRobot]

Confirmed Hanlon and Stevenson will be moving on from the club in the summer...

Gutted to see Stevenson leaving, even though we knew it was coming.

[.Sean.]

Really quite sad, think we all knew it was coming but still 🥲

[ElginHibbie]

I am away for a cry, end of an era

[ancient hibee]

That’s why Stevenson was on for a couple of minutes on Saturday-to get his number of appearances up.

[SteveHFC]

That’s why Stevenson was on for a couple of minutes on Saturday-to get his number of appearances up.

Hanlon and Stevenson should be starting every game until end of season.

[Hibs90]

I suppose if they are continuing to play football then fair enough if they want to go do that.

I hope Hibs at least made them aware they will always be welcome back in some role or capacity..

[mcohibs]

Would be great if the club could organise something where we can all leave a message for these legends to read. Sure we’ve done something like that before.

[7Hero]

deserves it's own thread so i started one for P and L ..

[Wheat Hound]

Maybe reading too much into it, but found it interesting that the article on the Hibs website re Lewis & Paul came from 'the Gordon family' and not the manager...

[Unseen work]

Maybe reading too much into it, but found it interesting that the article on the Hibs website re Lewis & Paul came from 'the Gordon family' and not the manager...

Just said the same, seems a bit off Montgomery hasn’t commented on it

[Unseen work]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alex-gogic-agrees-new-st-32756046

Not surprising by Baccus and Strain look to leave St Mirren in the summer when contracts expire

[.Sean.]

That’s why Stevenson was on for a couple of minutes on Saturday-to get his number of appearances up.
Will he get to 600?

[Onceinawhile]

Will he get to 600?

Aberdeen will be game 600.

[Heisenberg]

Just said the same, seems a bit off Montgomery hasn’t commented on it

It does seem very odd the manager wouldn’t comment on it.

[Hibiza]

600 a must .

[KazaHibs]

Heard whispers of a loan move for McKenna(GK) from Bournemouth. Signed in Jan from Queens Park

[Tully]

Heard whispers of a loan move for McKenna(GK) from Bournemouth. Signed in Jan from Queens Park

Christ he’s only 17

[B.H.F.C]

Putting aside the fact they’ve been here for about 300 years between them, if we’re releasing Hanlon and Stevenson it gives me a bit of hope that we’re not going to be handing out silly contract renewals to out of contract players. More so with Hanlon, I think if we’d offered him another year, there wouldn’t have been that many grumbles.

Le Fondre reported to be going as well. Marshall should follow IMO. Coupled with loans coming to an end that starts freeing up a bit of space that we need. Hopefully we can manage to move on some of those still in contract as well.

[KazaHibs]

Christ he’s only 17

What's even more insane is we let him go 🙈

[Paul1642]

Putting aside the fact they’ve been here for about 300 years between them, if we’re releasing Hanlon and Stevenson it gives me a bit of hope that we’re not going to be handing out silly contract renewals to out of contract players. More so with Hanlon, I think if we’d offered him another year, there wouldn’t have been that many grumbles.

Le Fondre reported to be going as well. Marshall should follow IMO. Coupled with loans coming to an end that starts freeing up a bit of space that we need. Hopefully we can manage to move on some of those still in contract as well.

I think there would the been quite a few grumbles if Hanlon was given an other year to honest. He’s loved by nearly all fans but it’s clear that he’s not a top 6 player any more and we need better if we’re going to get to where we want to be. I think they are both leaving at the right time for the club and for their own legacy.

[B.H.F.C]

I think there would the been quite a few grumbles if Hanlon was given an other year to honest. He’s loved by nearly all fans but it’s clear that he’s not a top 6 player any more and we need better if we’re going to get to where we want to be. I think they are both leaving at the right time for the club and for their own legacy.

I’m no convinced. Whether through sentiment or whatever, I think an argument would have been made for offering him a year as a backup, similar to what was argued for Stevenson last year.

I also think it’s the right decision though. We need to clear out as much as we possibly can which won’t be easy with all the daft contracts that have been dished out over the last couple of years.

[Gmack7]

I’m no convinced. Whether through sentiment or whatever, I think an argument would have been made for offering him a year as a backup, similar to what was argued for Stevenson last year.

I also think it’s the right decision though. We need to clear out as much as we possibly can which won’t be easy with all the daft contracts that have been dished out over the last couple of years.
PH may have been offered another year but already have plans for something completely different

[jeffers]

PH may have been offered another year but already have plans for something completely different

He certainly wasn’t. Was told in January he wouldn’t get a new deal and to “enjoy” the last few months sitting on the bench kicking his heels, while Rocky continues to gift goals with his comical defending.

Personally would have given him another year. I have no issues in letting him go providing we sign better though. Not overly confident of that happening.

[Hibiza]

Newell much improved this season but time to say cheerio.

[Paul1642]

Newell much improved this season but time to say cheerio.

I actually agree with this. I feel that an individual player he is good enough but the dynamic of the midfield just hasn’t been right for a long time and a complete overhaul is need.

In fact come to think of it there are very few players in the current squad I would keep and next to none that I would be gutted to loose which is a shame as even in our previous bottom 6 season there have been one or two who I would have wanted to keep.

From Saturday I would say keep Obita, Mariah-Welsh , Vente and Maolida.

2014 style reset is needed.

[JimBHibees]

Both club legends and fantastic club servants. Huge credit also for their community foundation to help people who need it.

[.Sean.]

He certainly wasn’t. Was told in January he wouldn’t get a new deal and to “enjoy” the last few months sitting on the bench kicking his heels, while Rocky continues to gift goals with his comical defending.

Personally would have given him another year. I have no issues in letting him go providing we sign better though. Not overly confident of that happening.
This makes me really really angry. What a way to treat Paul Hanlon, imagine how he must feel watching a giraffe wearing roller blades trying to play centre half in front of him. A complete and utter liberty

I think they may have jumped the gun with Hanlon in particular - NM is a goner it’s a matter of when not if and the new manager would maybe have fancied a reliable back up.

Hanlons days as a first pick for Hibs are probably up but it’s not been handled in the best of ways IMO

[Northernhibee]

This makes me really really angry. What a way to treat Paul Hanlon, imagine how he must feel watching a giraffe wearing roller blades trying to play centre half in front of him. A complete and utter liberty

I think they may have jumped the gun with Hanlon in particular - NM is a goner it’s a matter of when not if and the new manager would maybe have fancied a reliable back up.


Hanlons days as a first pick for Hibs are probably up but it’s not been handled in the best of ways IMO

Agreed.

The Gordon’s and Kensell have imo chipped away at the soul of the club, now a lot of the heart of the club has been removed too.

Who would have thought that in 2024 I’d be pining for the halcyon days of the STF/Petrie era.

[jeffers]

This makes me really really angry. What a way to treat Paul Hanlon, imagine how he must feel watching a giraffe wearing roller blades trying to play centre half in front of him. A complete and utter liberty

I think they may have jumped the gun with Hanlon in particular - NM is a goner it’s a matter of when not if and the new manager would maybe have fancied a reliable back up.

Hanlons days as a first pick for Hibs are probably up but it’s not been handled in the best of ways IMO

I feel the exact same way. As I say I’d have given him another year. I heard chat about getting the average age of the squad down, the sort of nonsense decision someone thinks is a good idea, rather than assessing the merits of individual players not when they were born.

You could look at it one of two ways. He deserved better or the club felt we couldn’t afford to let him go in January just in case he was needed. I know where my thoughts on it are. I’ll be interested to see where he ends up next season…

[Nicho87]

Only players that should be kept are

Obita
Cadden
Moriah-Welsh

All the rest are free to leave, open to offers I hope

How we have such a big bloated squad is incredible

[04Sauzee]

Livi make another signing

𝐂𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐞 𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐧

Livingston FC is delighted to announce the pre-contract signing of defender Matthew Clarke from Northern Irish Premiership side, Linfield.

Welcome to West Lothian, Matthew!

🖥️ buff.ly/3JQHpD6

[Unseen work]

Was listening to the Down the Slope podcast and they mentioned centre half Michael Hector at centre half.

Out of contract this summer.

Noticed he was at reading at the same time as McDermott, be interesting to see if we make a move for him.

[Nicho87]

Was listening to the Down the Slope podcast and they mentioned centre half Michael Hector at centre half.

Out of contract this summer.

Noticed he was at reading at the same time as McDermott, be interesting to see if we make a move for him.

I think any link we have with McDermott will expire once BM is inevitably emptied by the club imminently

Also listened and must admit found it quite uninteresting with just a bunch of never heard offs from football manager mainly mentioned.

Maybe a generation thing

[Paulie Walnuts]

That you JDH?

[Unseen work]

Boy from work is saying we’re after Georgie Gent.

20 year old left back that has been on loan at Motherwell this season from Blackburn.

Would be very good competition for Obita.

Anyone else heard similar?

[EGL2000]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

[easty]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

Id definitely take him at Hibs.

Doesn’t look like he’s had a great season, but he’s been a good keeper last few years.

[04Sauzee]

Boy from work is saying we’re after Georgie Gent.

20 year old left back that has been on loan at Motherwell this season from Blackburn.

Would be very good competition for Obita.

Anyone else heard similar?

Unless he's getting released from Blackburn it would be strange if Blackburn sent him to Hibs. He's getting decent game time at Motherwell and unless Hibs see Obita a LCB which I doubt they do I can't see the boy playing in n front of Obita. That could stunt his development at 20 years of age. Off course Hibs may see him as a better option than Obita? I can't recall seeing the guy playing for Motherwell so can't comment on his playing style.

[B.H.F.C]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

They always have back up goalies that are never near the team, he’d be just that. They’ve had Siegrist for a couple of years, who’s played 2 games, and doesn’t even get on the bench (that’s Scott Bain’s position).

[blackpoolhibs]

I cant remember noticing him for Motherwell, but it's no surprise we are after another left back.

Stevenson is going, we only have youth players after that, and Obita is nothing special.

I hope we replace all the defenders and keeper, that would be a great start to being a better side.:pray:

[Unseen work]

Unless he's getting released from Blackburn it would be strange if Blackburn sent him to Hibs. He's getting decent game time at Motherwell and unless Hibs see Obita a LCB which I doubt they do I can't see the boy playing in n front of Obita. That could stunt his development at 20 years of age. Off course Hibs may see him as a better option than Obita? I can't recall seeing the guy playing for Motherwell so can't comment on his playing style.

The boy said it would be a permanent as opposed to a loan but who knows.


We’ll need competition for Obita in some form I guess, rather a young lad to learn off him and improve than an average 25 year old.

[Unseen work]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

I’m with you, really poor keeper that lives on his reputation from a couple of years ago.

Think the only positive for Celtic/Rodgers is that he is really comfortable with the ball at his feet.

[Donegal Hibby]

Boy from work is saying we’re after Georgie Gent.

20 year old left back that has been on loan at Motherwell this season from Blackburn.

Would be very good competition for Obita.

Anyone else heard similar?

Interesting one . Read that Kettlewell was going to try and get him to extend his stay at Fir Park. He's left footed and can apparently play CH too though only around 5'6 I think.

[04Sauzee]

The boy said it would be a permanent as opposed to a loan but who knows.


We’ll need competition for Obita in some form I guess, rather a young lad to learn off him and improve than an average 25 year old.

I'm not disagreeing with you regarding we need competition for Obita. And a permanent deal makes more sense. Even a loan deal makes sense for Hibs. The point I was trying to make and did a poor job of it was if Blackburn wanted him to develop at 20 he should be playing week in week out. If they are now selling/ releasing him then that's different.

[flash]

I’m with you, really poor keeper that lives on his reputation from a couple of years ago.

Think the only positive for Celtic/Rodgers is that he is really comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Would far rather have either Mitov or Dennis.

[easty]

Would far rather have either Mitov or Dennis.

I think we’ll probably get Dennis. It just makes sense with the Bournemouth connection.

[flash]

I think we’ll probably get Dennis. It just makes sense with the Bournemouth connection.

Aye unless they wany him back for themselves would make perfect sense.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

Classic Celtic. He's not going there to play. At least if he came to us or the sheep for example he'd be turning up to strengthen the team

How many games did Bain or Seigrest play in the last 2 or 3 years?

[LEaston87]

Gent looked very good going forward against us at Fir Park recently, looks a better player than Penrice

[Nicho87]

Classic Celtic. He's not going there to play. At least if he came to us or the sheep for example he'd be turning up to strengthen the team

How many games did Bain or Seigrest play in the last 2 or 3 years?

He doesn’t have to sign for Celtic

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

He doesn’t have to sign for Celtic

Guessing he's comfortable sitting on the bench for quadruple his salary. Fair play. Who's to say we'd be any different I suppose

[04Sauzee]

Interesting one . Read that Kettlewell was going to try and get him to extend his stay at Fir Park. He's left footed and can apparently play CH too though only around 5'6 I think.

A small showreel of him here

https://twitter.com/VIBEZ_LFC/status/1786857363481170204?t=in1A7oBTDjTRM8U0xsajkw&s=19


Some stats on him prior his move to Motherwell

https://twitter.com/gregthewellfan/status/1697871852356415555?t=O86-2srt8kaOUq9UJNfU9w&s=19

[Brightside]

Aye unless they wany him back for themselves would make perfect sense.

IF that happens Bournemouth will just send up the other keeper. Irish guy - name escapes me.

[eastmainsmsh]

Mick Hector

[Unseen work]

Mick Hector

Inside info, Down the slope podcast or same logic as I used for him?🤣

[Groathillgrump]

Interesting one . Read that Kettlewell was going to try and get him to extend his stay at Fir Park. He's left footed and can apparently play CH too though only around 5'6 I think.

I think you Googled Georgie Gent the female tennis player. How on earth could a 5'6" footballer play centre half? :greengrin

The Motherwell Georgie Gent is 6 feet tall.

[snedzuk]

This makes me really really angry. What a way to treat Paul Hanlon, imagine how he must feel watching a giraffe wearing roller blades trying to play centre half in front of him. A complete and utter liberty

I think they may have jumped the gun with Hanlon in particular - NM is a goner it’s a matter of when not if and the new manager would maybe have fancied a reliable back up.

Hanlons days as a first pick for Hibs are probably up but it’s not been handled in the best of ways IMO

Is this the Paul Hanlon that started last Saturday.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think you Googled Georgie Gent the female tennis player. How on earth could a 5'6" footballer play centre half? :greengrin

The Motherwell Georgie Gent is 6 feet tall.

Yeah your right thought it was abit strange right enough 😂😂👍

[Donegal Hibby]

A small showreel of him here

https://twitter.com/VIBEZ_LFC/status/1786857363481170204?t=in1A7oBTDjTRM8U0xsajkw&s=19


Some stats on him prior his move to Motherwell

https://twitter.com/gregthewellfan/status/1697871852356415555?t=O86-2srt8kaOUq9UJNfU9w&s=19

Thanks for that . Looks a good player . Very good at crosses ,runs and as pace and power . Just the kind of player I think we would be interested in and would be good competition for Obita too .

[JimBHibees]

Mitov of St J picked up a number of POTY awards this evening

Goalkeeper Dimitar Mitov scooped the majority of trophies at our Player of the Year event for season 2023/24.

The Bulgarian shot-stopper was presented with 11 awards in total at the Salutation Hotel in Perth on Sunday evening.

11 awards sounds bizarre. That include best dressed and the player with the best banter or nicest teeth 😄

[JimBHibees]

Boy from work is saying we’re after Georgie Gent.

20 year old left back that has been on loan at Motherwell this season from Blackburn.

Would be very good competition for Obita.

Anyone else heard similar?

Quite impressed with him however wouldn’t be an obvious area to strengthen

[JimBHibees]

Gent looked very good going forward against us at Fir Park recently, looks a better player than Penrice

Agree

[Donegal Hibby]

Quite impressed with him however wouldn’t be an obvious area to strengthen

With Lewy leaving Jim is it not an area we need to strengthen?

[JimBHibees]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

Great move for Liam no doubt relatively significant wage increase. Sub goalies can have great careers with out actually playing. Who was the guy Steve Harper at Newcastle was sub goalie for about 15 years :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

With Lewy leaving Jim is it not an area we need to strengthen?

Yes you are right was just not sure he would play in front of Obita however impressed by Gent in the little i have seen him quick gets forward well and can put a decent ball in. Maybe an improvement on JO.

[JimBHibees]

Mick Hector

Was at Aberdeen previously

[easty]

Great move for Liam no doubt relatively significant wage increase. Sub goalies can have great careers with out actually playing. Who was the guy Steve Harper at Newcastle was sub goalie for about 15 years :greengrin

Scott Carson has 2 champions league winners medals!

[JimBHibees]

Scott Carson has 2 champions league winners medals!

Says it all :greengrin Great for him though

[Forza Fred]

Yes you are right was just not sure he would play in front of Obita however impressed by Gent in the little i have seen him quick gets forward well and can put a decent ball in. Maybe an improvement on JO.

I quite like Obita, and while I understand that there will likely be a chorus of…’we need someone who understands the league here’ the person I would nominate if we were looking for a left back would be Jacob Farrell….left back in the Mariners side that just won the AFC Cup.

[easty]

I quite like Obita, and while I understand that there will likely be a chorus of…’we need someone who understands the league here’ the person I would nominate if we were looking for a left back would be Jacob Farrell….left back in the Mariners side that just won the AFC Cup.

Is he a good defender, or an attacking full back?

I feel we could really do with a couple of full backs who are primarily defenders.

[Forza Fred]

Is he a good defender, or an attacking full back?

I feel we could really do with a couple of full backs who are primarily defenders.

Both

[04Sauzee]

I quite like Obita, and while I understand that there will likely be a chorus of…’we need someone who understands the league here’ the person I would nominate if we were looking for a left back would be Jacob Farrell….left back in the Mariners side that just won the AFC Cup.
I know you mention him often and he's highly rated in the A league , I just don't get the hype. I like Nisbet a lot but Farrell doesn't impress me loads. I'll be eating my words in years to come I'm sure 😅

[Forza Fred]

I know you mention him often and he's highly rated in the A league , I just don't get the hype. I like Nisbet a lot but Farrell doesn't impress me loads. I'll be eating my words in years to come I'm sure 😅

The A League have a yank like ‘The one to watch’ type competition for those players who were under 21 at the start of the season.

Yesterday, the A League announced that the end of regular season points total for two players ended up identical and that the joint winners were Jacob Farrell and Nestory Irankunder.

Irankunder has been signed by Bayern Munich for a reported $3m, so Farrell appears to be in good company…..and obviously it’s not just me who rates him.

But yes, every signing is a gamble, and who knows how they….or any player from anywhere….would go at Easter Road.

[04Sauzee]

The A League have a yank like ‘The one to watch’ type competition for those players who were under 21 at the start of the season.

Yesterday, the A League announced that the end of regular season points total for two players ended up identical and that the joint winners were Jacob Farrell and Nestory Irankunder.

Irankunder has been signed by Bayern Munich for a reported $3m, so Farrell appears to be in good company…..and obviously it’s not just me who rates him.

But yes, every signing is a gamble, and who knows how they….or any player from anywhere….would go at Easter Road.

Actually seen that before I posted above

https://twitter.com/aleaguemen/status/1788373577240351026?t=i01vCV6x1WrVj1ANw9V7qw&s=19

Every time I listen to the commentators which I watch the A league they rave about him. Looking on line at his stats and if I hadn't watched him id be saying what are we waiting on , he just sometimes looks a bit awkward or cumbersome if that's the correct term. If Hibs are after him and he signs I'd be 100% behind him and hope he goes on to great things 😁

Some more stats in him below

https://twitter.com/Scout_en_Bois/status/1768234748084662388?t=Dso6oUe_9NJUo1P8sxb1VQ&s=19

[Unseen work]

Farrell looks very unorthodox/awkward in his playing style, reminds me of Callum Booth.

[Forza Fred]

Actually seen that before I posted above

https://twitter.com/aleaguemen/status/1788373577240351026?t=i01vCV6x1WrVj1ANw9V7qw&s=19

Every time I listen to the commentators which I watch the A league they rave about him. Looking on line at his stats and if I hadn't watched him id be saying what are we waiting on , he just sometimes looks a bit awkward or cumbersome if that's the correct term. If Hibs are after him and he signs I'd be 100% behind him and hope he goes on to great things 😁

Some more stats in him below

https://twitter.com/Scout_en_Bois/status/1768234748084662388?t=Dso6oUe_9NJUo1P8sxb1VQ&s=19

Unlike Nisbet, he would incur a transfer fee as he still has a year on his contract.

He’s a quiet, tough, unassuming laddie who sees himself as anything but a ‘star’ and apparently was mentored through the Mariners Academy by Monty, after nearly being lost to the game.

He’s an under 23 internationalist and considered by most pundits to be elevated to the full Socceroo squad as a matter of course.

[500miles]

Unlike Nisbet, he would incur a transfer fee as he still has a year on his contract.

He’s a quiet, tough, unassuming laddie who sees himself as anything but a ‘star’ and apparently was mentored through the Mariners Academy by Monty, after nearly being lost to the game.

He’s an under 23 internationalist and considered by most pundits to be elevated to the full Socceroo squad as a matter of course.

Has he got pace? Can he compete physically? We've got plenty of technical players already.

[JimBHibees]

Has he got pace? Can he compete physically? We've got plenty of technical players already.

From the miniscule amount I have seen of him he has both.

[PHeffernan]

Celtic getting Liam Kelly from Motherwell very strange business. I wouldn't even want him at Hibs to be honest think he's awful. Could argue it's for the home grown players rule but still strange in my opinion.

Isn't this just click bait for Tic supporters.
Almost everyday for weeks I have seen Celtic linked to goalkeepers around the world.
The media know Hart is leaving so it's an easy hook to bait.
In this case they also know Kelly is out of contract. Shooty in for online advertising revenues.

He's not going to Celtic unless a back up keeper leaves but could rock up at Hibs but I hope not.

[Hibiza]

Forget the A league.

[bingo70]

Isn't this just click bait for Tic supporters.
Almost everyday for weeks I have seen Celtic linked to goalkeepers around the world.
The media know Hart is leaving so it's an easy hook to bait.
In this case they also know Kelly is out of contract. Shooty in for online advertising revenues.

If he goes to Celtic he will be taking over the bench role from Bain.
Bain or Kelly could rock up at Hibs but I hope not.

Having a Scottish sub goalie helps them meet a quota of home grown players in their European squad I think.

[JohnM1875]

Having a Scottish sub goalie helps them meet a quota of home grown players in their European squad I think.

Scott Bain will cover that for them though. Suppose another home grown player wouldn’t hurt

[CapitalGreen]

Forget the A league.

What league should we focus on?

[Donegal Hibby]

I read this and he's one of the players I wonder what if things had went differently for him at us how it would have went ... Thought he was very good . Don't know what he's like now at 36 though he's a free agent .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/adam-bogdan-reveals-hibs-stint-29138595

[PHeffernan]

Scott Bain will cover that for them though. Suppose another home grown player wouldn’t hurt

Bain and Siegrist are both contracted until 2026. Kelly can only go there if one of them moves on.

[Gmack7]

Unlike Nisbet, he would incur a transfer fee as he still has a year on his contract.

He’s a quiet, tough, unassuming laddie who sees himself as anything but a ‘star’ and apparently was mentored through the Mariners Academy by Monty, after nearly being lost to the game.

He’s an under 23 internationalist and considered by most pundits to be elevated to the full Socceroo squad as a matter of course.

He sounds a bit like a LB we just released

[JohnM1875]

Bain is out of contract in 3 weeks

Sure I read somewhere he’d signed an extension not long ago. Obviously not.

[Aldo]

I read this and he's one of the players I wonder what if things had went differently for him at us how it would have went ... Thought he was very good . Don't know what he's like now at 36 though he's a free agent .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/adam-bogdan-reveals-hibs-stint-29138595

Barring his mistake in a European tie, Adam was superb for us. I rated Rocky but thought Bogdan was better! I don’t mean to hijack the thread btw

[jeffers]

Barring his mistake in a European tie, Adam was superb for us. I rated Rocky but thought Bogdan was better! I don’t mean to hijack the thread btw

Aye me too mate. Thought he was excellent and a better keeper than Rocky.

[500miles]

From the miniscule amount I have seen of him he has both.

That's a good start then.

I've come to believe that we've signed some good players who look great when allowed to play, but we're just so easily outrun.

[PHeffernan]

I read this and he's one of the players I wonder what if things had went differently for him at us how it would have went ... Thought he was very good . Don't know what he's like now at 36 though he's a free agent .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/adam-bogdan-reveals-hibs-stint-29138595

The concussion injury at Elgin all but killed his career.
He's only played 15 league games in 5 years.
His ship has sailed.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Make it happen Hibs

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/victor-*******o/profil/spieler/632448

[PHeffernan]

Sure I read somewhere he’d signed an extension not long ago. Obviously not.

No your right, Bain signed a new 3 year deal last summer which enables him to laze-aboot at Darkheid till the summer of 2026 whilst copping copious amounts of dosh.

[JimBHibees]

The concussion injury at Elgin all but killed his career.
He's only played 15 league games in 5 years.
His ship has sailed.

Shame as he was excellent. The tackle v Elgin was at Easter road was awful and should have been a red.can remember another hideous tackle on Doidge v Elgin when the guy bet on a yellow

[Iain G]

Make it happen Hibs

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/victor-*******o/profil/spieler/632448

Link doesn't seem to be working?

[Unseen work]

ALF set to leave

https://t.co/eMFIK0Ds7R

[SteveHFC]

ALF set to leave

https://t.co/eMFIK0Ds7R

Monty will speak to Marshall at the end of this season about his future.

[Forza Fred]

Forget the A league.

Ok, if you say so.

[bingo70]

Monty will speak to Marshall at the end of this season about his future.

I don’t get why he needs to wait till then?

Will Marshall not want to know if he’s got a job in 2 weeks time? What if we decide we want to keep him but he’s found something else?

Also from that interview, surely he should have an idea his the link up will work with Bournemouth this summer, it’s only a week or so away. Surely if he’s staying, he should be in the thick of that conversation?

I don’t think that interview reads well at all.

[AlbertK86]

Monty will speak to Marshall at the end of this season about his future.

Steaming if he thinks Marshall has been brilliant. A major part of our defensive problems


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[bingo70]

I don’t get why he needs to wait till then?

Will Marshall not want to know if he’s got a job in 2 weeks time? What if we decide we want to keep him but he’s found something else?

Also from that interview, surely he should have an idea his the link up will work with Bournemouth this summer, it’s only a week or so away. Surely if he’s staying, he should be in the thick of that conversation?

I don’t think that interview reads well at all.

On Alf:-

“It’s not been a concrete decision but it’s been discussions where it’s likely he will move on and be back with his family down south.”

No concrete decision? The season ends in about 8 or 9 days. Surely a concrete decision is needed now or is this how we are telling him it’s now been made?

Doesn’t sound like we are well into our planning for next season yet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

On Alf:-

“It’s not been a concrete decision but it’s been discussions where it’s likely he will move on and be back with his family down south.”

No concrete decision? The season ends in about 8 or 9 days. Surely a concrete decision is needed now or is this how we are telling him it’s now been made?

Doesn’t sound like we are well into our planning for next season yet.

We’re reviewing the managers position, so I’m not surprised we’re not into our planning for next season.

This is why we should have just sacked him when we failed to get top 6. Let’s be honest, there can only be one outcome from a review of his position, so quite why we’re drawing it out is beyond me.

[bingo70]

We’re reviewing the managers position, so I’m not surprised we’re not into our planning for next season.

This is why we should have just sacked him when we failed to get top 6. Let’s be honest, there can only be one outcome from a review of his position, so quite why we’re drawing it out is beyond me.

If I was in charge, I would come to the same conclusion as you. I still think it’s possible though they are digging deeper than the results and seeing what else is the problem, other than the manager. If they find deeper router issues they might give him the benefit of the doubt.

I find it incredible though in the same interview he says Marshall has been as good a goalie as anybody in the league, he goes on to say we’ve not even spoken to him about staying on next season. Season ends next weekend!

I find it impossible to believe we’ve done no planning for next season, other than Montgomery putting a wish list together.

[B.H.F.C]

If I was in charge, I would come to the same conclusion as you. I still think it’s possible though they are digging deeper than the results and seeing what else is the problem, other than the manager. If they find deeper router issues they might give him the benefit of the doubt.

I find it incredible though in the same interview he says Marshall has been as good a goalie as anybody in the league, he goes on to say we’ve not even spoken to him about staying on next season. Season ends next weekend!

I find it impossible to believe we’ve done no planning for next season, other than Montgomery putting a wish list together.

It really concerns me that we’re going to stumble about lacking any direction, hiding behind this review stuff. Season is finished next week and I really, really hope there is clarity on what is going to be happening quickly. Severe lack of trust or belief in the decision makers at the moment.

[Alex Trager]

We’re reviewing the managers position, so I’m not surprised we’re not into our planning for next season.

This is why we should have just sacked him when we failed to get top 6. Let’s be honest, there can only be one outcome from a review of his position, so quite why we’re drawing it out is beyond me.

Mental mate.

It’s absolutely no way to prepare for the last season of euro groups, but we all know how that will go anyway - I’d get set for another season of ‘nearly’ next year.

This lot couldn’t run a bath. Prove me wrong.

[Centre Hawf]

No your right, Bain signed a new 3 year deal last summer which enables him to laze-aboot at Darkheid till the summer of 2026 whilst copping copious amounts of dosh.

Didn't realise Bain had signed a new deal, makes sense for all the parties in that one if he's happy to not play. Makes the chances of Liam Kelly moving there less likely imo unless Bain has zero interest in even being the first choice back up.

Hopefully opens the door for Siegrest to leave though as I thought he was an excellent keeper for United.

[Tyler Durden]

It really concerns me that we’re going to stumble about lacking any direction, hiding behind this review stuff. Season is finished next week and I really, really hope there is clarity on what is going to be happening quickly. Severe lack of trust or belief in the decision makers at the moment.

Yeah it just seems a shambles at the moment. Monty is a dead man walking and we're having to listen to his nonsense opinions on Marshall and ALF......why can't we just confirm that they're leaving?

Also given the desperation for any good news story, you'd think that we'd have announced any pre-contract signings by now, if we had made them.

I'm not usually one clamouring to "hear from the club" all the time but McDermott seems to be silent in all this. Sooner the season ends and some of this stuff is clarified the better.

[Centre Hawf]

Yeah it just seems a shambles at the moment. Monty is a dead man walking and we're having to listen to his nonsense opinions on Marshall and ALF......why can't we just confirm that they're leaving?

Also given the desperation for any good news story, you'd think that we'd have announced any pre-contract signings by now, if we had made them.

I'm not usually one clamouring to "hear from the club" all the time but McDermott seems to be silent in all this. Sooner the season ends and some of this stuff is clarified the better.

I wonder if Monty is away and he and the club already know it. Which is maybe why we're not announcing any pre-contracts as it could be seen as a 'Monty player' perhaps why no conversations have happened with Marsh etc.

Maybe I'm giving the club far too much credit but it's the only feasible explanation for what on earth we're doing at this point because otherwise it's just a shambles.

[keep the faith]

I wonder if Monty is away and he and the club already know it. Which is maybe why we're not announcing any pre-contracts as it could be seen as a 'Monty player' perhaps why no conversations have happened with Marsh etc.

Maybe I'm giving the club far too much credit but it's the only feasible explanation for what on earth we're doing at this point because otherwise it's just a shambles.

While I'm not in favour of another change of manager, I do think Monty needs some media training at the very least. His interviews are so generic they never give any insight into the specific game, situation or problem. You could push a button and the same thing would come out regardless of the result or performance. It's kind of insulting to the fanbase.
The ALF explanation yesterday was the same. What does it even mean? Is he going? Is he saying ALF want to be nearer home? Is he saying we are moving on from ALF?
Lennon for instance (and I don't want him back) always gave insight specifically to what he had seen or what was going on. Monty just leaves you frustrated and no wiser.

Maybe just me. Maybe I'm being unfair.
I do hope he is more inspiration and insightful with the players as that's what really matters.

[Godsahibby]

Monty will speak to Marshall at the end of this season about his future.

Marshall will be away, that decision will have been made by him already.

That is only going to change if he is going to be first choice and that wont happen.

[matty_f]

I'm pretty sure that a Monty is going nowhere, the club look like they're doubling down and are going to back him as much as they possibly can.
I don't agree with the decision but if that's what they're doing then they really could do with just saying that's what they're doing and try to get everyone bought into it.

[WhileTheChief..]

It's kinda fun guessing what might happen ,with some folk convinced he'll be gone and others dead certain he'll be here!

With players leaving, don't we usually announce them as a big batch at the end of the season / month?

I'm thinking there's normally a thing on the website saying players a, b and c have left with our good wishes type of thing.

And for players coming in, I wouldn't expect to hear any news until everyone is back from their summer break after the season ends, at the earliest.

[Centre Hawf]

It's kinda fun guessing what might happen ,with some folk convinced he'll be gone and others dead certain he'll be here!

With players leaving, don't we usually announce them as a big batch at the end of the season / month?

I'm thinking there's normally a thing on the website saying players a, b and c have left with our good wishes type of thing.

And for players coming in, I wouldn't expect to hear any news until everyone is back from their summer break after the season ends, at the earliest.

Clubs usually put out a retained list which basically as you say wishes well to guys who leave at the end of their contract and either weren't renewed our refused a renewal or their loans are up and perhaps options to keep aren't being taken up.

Some clubs, not all and not something I've ever seen us do, also mention in that list players who while are out of contract are currently in negotiations to stay and update further when decisions are made.

[rileygrieve1]

Y

[Heisenberg]

I'm pretty sure that a Monty is going nowhere, the club look like they're doubling down and are going to back him as much as they possibly can.
I don't agree with the decision but if that's what they're doing then they really could do with just saying that's what they're doing and try to get everyone bought into it.

Yep exactly, keeping quiet and letting everyone guess will only make it worse. He’s got even less support at this stage than Lee Johnson did ffs, it’s a monumental risk to keep him on and potentially face the same situation again after a few league games.

[bingo70]

Y

Couldn’t agree more.

[GreenCastle]

Clubs usually put out a retained list which basically as you say wishes well to guys who leave at the end of their contract and either weren't renewed our refused a renewal or their loans are up and perhaps options to keep aren't being taken up.

Some clubs, not all and not something I've ever seen us do, also mention in that list players who while are out of contract are currently in negotiations to stay and update further when decisions are made.

Would also allow fans to give them a final clap at final home / away game - not like the crowds will be very big.

What the club needs right now is leadership and some of the statements / interviews are just a load of nonsense. Can you imagine the team talks and trying to inspire players if this is what is being said in the media.

[Brightside]

Yep exactly, keeping quiet and letting everyone guess will only make it worse. He’s got even less support at this stage than Lee Johnson did ffs, it’s a monumental risk to keep him on and potentially face the same situation again after a few league games.

I’m just not sure why they have to say anything. At no point have they said he was going to be sacked so why should they say otherwise.

[bingo70]

I’m just not sure why they have to say anything. At no point have they said he was going to be sacked so why should they say otherwise.

Because the statement they released created uncertainty.

Whether that was their intention or not, that’s what happened. They now need to clarify that uncertainty, one way or the other.

[Eaststand]

Y

Source 🤔

GGTTH

[Rumble de Thump]

Because the statement they released created uncertainty.

Whether that was their intention or not, that’s what happened. They now need to clarify that uncertainty, one way or the other.

So they should make a decision before the review? Would that not make the review a bit redundant?

[bingo70]

So they should make a decision before the review? Would that not make the review a bit redundant?

They should prioritise elements of the review and do the relevant parts in phases. By the time the full review is done we could be well into the season.

We should act upon the aspects of the review we can act upon, as we go along. There’s time pressures here and there’s an urgency to act as quickly as possible.

[Heisenberg]

I’m just not sure why they have to say anything. At no point have they said he was going to be sacked so why should they say otherwise.

At no point have they backed the manager either though? They’ve said his performance this season was unacceptable and left it at that.

[TrinityHibby]

Forget the A league.

Agreed, most posters on here would get a game in the A league (Aussie pub 🍺)

[WhileTheChief..]

Season ends next Sunday, would a statement before then make any difference?

We'll come to an agreement and go our separate ways. I don't imagine they would keep him on any longer if he's not part of our plans for next season.

Or, if he's staying, we'll hear the results of the review and that will be that.

Either way I think we'll find out pretty quickly after the Livvi game.

[Hibiza]

Thanks for your Efforts Marsh . All the best.

[Hibiza]

Season ends next Sunday, would a statement before then make any difference?

We'll come to an agreement and go our separate ways. I don't imagine they would keep him on any longer if he's not part of our plans for next season.

Or, if he's staying, we'll hear the results of the review and that will be that.

Either way I think we'll find out pretty quickly after the Livvi game.

Won't be any statement, at best a smokescreen as usual.

[JimBHibees]

Agreed, most posters on here would get a game in the A league (Aussie pub 🍺)

Yet so many players from that league seamlessly move into decent teams in our league

[04Sauzee]

Agreed, most posters on here would get a game in the A league (Aussie pub 🍺)

There must be a few quid to be made if you fancy giving it a go.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Thanks for your Efforts Marsh . All the best.

Mitov is a must signing 👌

[cameronw-hfc]

Think monty saying what he did is nothing more than protecting an experienced player he's got respect for.

I don't think he truly believes he's one of the best currently in the league, but won't come out and criticise him.

[JohnM1875]

Think monty saying what he did is nothing more than protecting an experienced player he's got respect for.

I don't think he truly believes he's one of the best currently in the league, but won't come out and criticise him.

Have to agree.

You can't come out and defend your own performance going on about 'positive metrics' and then think Marshall has been one of the better keepers in the league when all available metrics show otherwise.

[Donegal Hibby]

Think monty saying what he did is nothing more than protecting an experienced player he's got respect for.

I don't think he truly believes he's one of the best currently in the league, but won't come out and criticise him.

Agree . Nothing to be gained by criticising him anyhow.

[B.H.F.C]

Think monty saying what he did is nothing more than protecting an experienced player he's got respect for.

I don't think he truly believes he's one of the best currently in the league, but won't come out and criticise him.

He didn’t need to criticise him. But didn’t need to protect him from anything really. At a time when he’s been scrutinised for everything he doesn’t need to say daft things like he did.

[babahibs]

Agreed, most posters on here would get a game in the A league (Aussie pub 🍺)

One of the dumbest things ever written, well done you.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Mbappe leaving PSG this summer






over to you Bill Foley

[tug.lismore]

If you take the current squad and then take away all the loanees, those we know are leaving and any player whose contract expires then there are about 16 players left.

I don't think that many of the players returning from loans will be in next season's squad. Certainly the older ones like Henderson, Kenneh, Delferrie, McKirdy etc are unlikely to remain.

At GK we have Wollacott, Johnson and Boruc if Marshall doesn't get a new deal. None of them are inspiring choices.

Defence is threadbare bar RB where we have Cadden, Miller and Megwa. With only Bushiri at CB then we probably need 3 new players for central defence. Obita is the only LB so we need another in there.

Potentially we could see 5 or 6 players brought into the defence depending on how many GKs come in.

There is the opportunity to revamp almost the whole defence.

Up front we have Vente. That's it. Yes we have wide midfielders like Youan and Boyle but for strikers just Vente.

So we have to either find a system that works for him or bring in a couple more strikers.

Midfield is a big issue. We have Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Amos, Campbell, Doyle-Hayes in the middle. Not inspiring me although Moriah-Welsh does have something about him. Would like to see a couple of real quality midfielders come in but that probably requires 2 or 3 to leave.

Out wide we have the aforementioned Boyle and Youan with Jair lurking around. Again we need a quality winger to come in.

So we have the opportunity to do a fairly wide ranging remodel of the squad.

We could start the season with a new GK, 2 new CBs, possible LB, at least 1 CM maybe 2 and a new wide player.

I think that when Montgomery talks about quality not quantity then we are looking at 6 or 7 first team starters hopefully of the standard of Maolida or better. The sort of players that interest Black Knights/Bournemouth

If not then all the talk about consistently 3rd is BS.

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[Potty78]

Mitov is a must signing 👌

Clause in his contract and its peanuts 👍

[04Sauzee]

Robbie Muirhead joins Livi. Think that's their 3rd or 4th signing.

[jakeshibs]

Agreed, most posters on here would get a game in the A league (Aussie pub 🍺)

Most posters could get a game in our league as the standards not much different, we are not in a good league hence rated about 17 football league rankings below MLS, Turkey and Denmark, and most other premier and first divisions of Europe

[04Sauzee]

Wigan still in talks about extending Jason Kerr's stay

'Discussions ongoing in relation to an extended registration'

Jordan Jones
Jason Kerr
Callum McManaman
Harry McHugh

[PHeffernan]

Most posters could get a game in our league as the standards not much different, we are not in a good league hence rated about 17 football league rankings below MLS, Turkey and Denmark, and most other premier and first divisions of Europe

UEFA currently rank our league equal 10th in Europe with Denmark 15th.
9th placed Turkey has a population of 85 million people, so off course they have a better league than Scotland and our 5.5 million people.

[PHeffernan]

If you take the current squad and then take away all the loanees, those we know are leaving and any player whose contract expires then there are about 16 players left.

I don't think that many of the players returning from loans will be in next season's squad. Certainly the older ones like Henderson, Kenneh, Delferrie, McKirdy etc are unlikely to remain.

Kenneh is 21 and Delferriere just turned 22 so not older players. Not great but not old.

At GK we have Wollacott, Johnson and Boruc if Marshall doesn't get a new deal. None of them are inspiring choices.

Defence is threadbare bar RB where we have Cadden, Miller and Megwa. With only Bushiri at CB then we probably need 3 new players for central defence. Obita is the only LB so we need another in there.

We also have Harbottle, McClelland and Blaney. We will end up with Bevan on loan from Bournemouth and will need to sign someone good like Jason Kerr.

Potentially we could see 5 or 6 players brought into the defence depending on how many GKs come in.

There is the opportunity to revamp almost the whole defence.

Up front we have Vente. That's it. Yes we have wide midfielders like Youan and Boyle but for strikers just Vente.

So we have to either find a system that works for him or bring in a couple more strikers.

Midfield is a big issue. We have Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Amos, Campbell, Doyle-Hayes in the middle. Not inspiring me although Moriah-Welsh does have something about him. Would like to see a couple of real quality midfielders come in but that probably requires 2 or 3 to leave.

Out wide we have the aforementioned Boyle and Youan with Jair lurking around. Again we need a quality winger to come in.

So we have the opportunity to do a fairly wide ranging remodel of the squad.

We could start the season with a new GK, 2 new CBs, possible LB, at least 1 CM maybe 2 and a new wide player.

I think that when Montgomery talks about quality not quantity then we are looking at 6 or 7 first team starters hopefully of the standard of Maolida or better. The sort of players that interest Black Knights/Bournemouth

Hibs won't get a single player of the standard of Maolida or better. Best chance of getting one of his standard is signing him which is a very long shot. Bournmouth will loan us centre half Bevan and the keeper Dennis. Hopefully they have someone else of quality as well. Is 3 players the max you are allowed on loan from one club?

If not then all the talk about consistently 3rd is BS.

That talk was just BS. Hearts budget dwarfs Hibs every season. Interesting to see how they deal with losing Shankland this summer. Hopefully as badly as we did trying to replace Nisbet.

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[Nicho87]

I’m sure hibs will still scrambling around for players the last day of the window.

Then we will be told how the summer window is always difficult and players moving right up until the last hour.

Bla bla bla

[flash]

I’m sure hibs will still scrambling around for players the last day of the window.

Then we will be told how the summer window is always difficult and players moving right up until the last hour.

Bla bla bla

Which summer window has that ever happened in before?

[Groathillgrump]

Mitov is a must signing ��


Clause in his contract and its peanuts ��

Sounds like a good deal. Salted or dry roasted?

[hibbie02]

I can't help thinking we get a new manager in the Summer and start next season with Newell, Campbell and JDH... Deja Vu all over again!

[bingo70]

I can't help thinking we get a new manager in the Summer and start next season with Newell, Campbell and JDH... Deja Vu all over again!

Clean slate for everyone, it’s only fair 😃

[tug.lismore]

Some replies in red to parts (highlighted) of your postsMaybe older players was the wrong term. Players who were brought in a while ago rather than through our youth team. Both have a limited future at Hibs.

None of the guys you name as CBs are good enough.

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[H18S NX]

Sounds like a good deal. Salted or dry roasted?......:aok::greengrin

[badabing67]

I can't help thinking we get a new manager in the Summer and start next season with Newell, Campbell and JDH... Deja Vu all over again!


The new manager bit is the bit I'm dreaming of these days, if we get one. The rest will take care of it's self.

[SHODAN]

I can't help thinking we get a new manager in the Summer and start next season with Newell, Campbell and JDH... Deja Vu all over again!

Doyle-Hayes will prevent this becoming a reality by being injured, unless the start of the season coincides with the "two appearances" part of his three month injury cycle.

[Hibiza]

Reading this thread brings home the reality of just as how shambolic our signing policy has been over the last few years.

[Hibees1973]

Reading this thread brings home the reality of just as how shambolic our signing policy has been over the last few years.

Always find it amusing when people state 'get rid of him', 'move him on'. Easier said than done.

We have so many duds who still have one or two years left on their contracts. Sadly, Ian Gordon's finger prints are all over our squad and it will cost a fortune to pay these contracts off, if Hibs decide to do that. The only alternative is these duds will be hanging around East Mains for the next year or two or we will loan them out, but still paying the majority of their wages.

[Donegal Hibby]

Reading this thread brings home the reality of just as how shambolic our signing policy has been over the last few years.

Its been a disaster though the last two transfer windows have improved greatly which gives us hope for the summer one .

[B.H.F.C]

Its been a disaster though the last two transfer windows have improved greatly which gives us hope for the summer one .

Hard to say that the last two windows have improved greatly when we never addressed the biggest, most obvious position and are sitting 8th in the league.

[Ronniekirk]

Always find it amusing when people state 'get rid of him', 'move him on'. Easier said than done.

We have so many duds who still have one or two years left on their contracts. Sadly, Ian Gordon's finger prints are all over our squad and it will cost a fortune to pay these contracts off, if Hibs decide to do that. The only alternative is these duds will be hanging around East Mains for the next year or two or we will loan them out, but still paying the majority of their wages.
We made a big loss last set of accounts that were brought out We have no players worth millions that we can sell
So we ain’t going to paying off lots of players contracts
which means a chunk of our playing budget will still be going on players who may not be first team picks
Yes as always there will be players that move on or go back out on loan But the latter also costs us

it’s no surprise that any player who contract is up will be moved on as we need to free up wages There will be one or two exceptions Butvits clear the name of the game is free up as much budget as possible with a is to trying to make quality signings that are first team ready or can make impact off the Bench
With a few younger lads on bench
So it’s imperative we get recruitment right this time round

[GreenCastle]

I can't help thinking we get a new manager in the Summer and start next season with Newell, Campbell and JDH... Deja Vu all over again!

Hahaha.

Just don’t…the fear of that midfield.

[Smartie]

Its been a disaster though the last two transfer windows have improved greatly which gives us hope for the summer one .

With hindsight last summer wasn’t good - although at the time I thought Levitt, Vente, Youan and co were going to be good.

January, I thought, was good. I thought the midfield was a bigger priority than the defence and NMW, Marcondes and Triantis have all contributed in midfield during the second half to the season. The fact that our midfield was much better just emphasised our defensive weaknesses more - the defence now being a priority that MUST be addressed this summer.

[Donegal Hibby]

With hindsight last summer wasn’t good - although at the time I thought Levitt, Vente, Youan and co were going to be good.

January, I thought, was good. I thought the midfield was a bigger priority than the defence and NMW, Marcondes and Triantis have all contributed in midfield during the second half to the season. The fact that our midfield was much better just emphasised our defensive weaknesses more - the defence now being a priority that MUST be addressed this summer.

Last summer wasn't good at all though .

I thought the midfield was also the priority and while we will need two midfielders in the summer the defence will hopefully be the priority this , still think about 7 or 8 good quality players in and we will be ok though.

[K-Zazu]

I can't help thinking we get a new manager in the Summer and start next season with Newell, Campbell and JDH... Deja Vu all over again!

Then we will get beat of Falkirk or something in the league cup groups. It’s written in the stars I’m telling ye 😄

[Donegal Hibby]

Hard to say that the last two windows have improved greatly when we never addressed the biggest, most obvious position and are sitting 8th in the league.

The signings like Mykola , CJ , Marcondes and Maolida compared to the likes of Mckirdy , Jair , melkersen, taits etc i think have been a lot better quality .

Midfield for me was the most obvious position to address . I thought it was unlikely at the time with knowing how tough a window it was and with already having a bloated squad we were going to be able to address both midfield and defence in it . It would have been good if we had been able to though.

[PHeffernan]

Maybe older players was the wrong term. Players who were brought in a while ago rather than through our youth team. Both have a limited future at Hibs.

None of the guys you name as CBs are good enough.

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I presume you have been watched these centre halves play many times this season to come to your opinion on their abilities.
Personally, I have barely seen them play so I don't know their current level.
Young players develop and improve over time and at different rates so it takes patience to see that process out.
You might remember centre half Nathan Wood who was on loan at Hibs a couple of seasons ago. He only played 1 game during his loan and the universal opinion of Hibs supporters was that he was rubbish. 18 months later he was a top player in the English Championship and was being touted for the EPL.

The likelyhood is you will be right and none of them will make it at our level but their future at Hibs is a decision for our coaches who regularly watch them play.
What we have at the moment are many supporters wanting a clear out and there is a good chance of the babies being chucked out with the bathwater if the club cave to that pressure.

Hibs judgement in moving players on has been very good over the years with no player who is still playing going onto a higher level.
Wotherspoon, Booth, Laidlaw, Murray and Stanton come to mind as the best of the bunch who were moved on aged 24 or less.
All good bottom 6 and Championship pro's but none have been subsequently sold on.

We have 5 permanent players out of contract in 3 weeks time plus 5 loans
A year from now we have a massive 20 permanent players out of contract.
It will be interesting to see how many of those 20 players Hibs try to move out this summer. I hope they get it right.

[Trinity Hibee]

We could have got Findlay last year but we didn’t and went to Killie. Has performed well for them at the back

[bingo70]

We could have got Findlay last year but we didn’t and went to Killie. Has performed well for them at the back

At the time he couldn’t get his game for a poor English league one (or two?) side. Derek McInnes has done well to get the most out of him. I don’t think it’s a given we would have had the same success.

[B.H.F.C]

The signings like Mykola , CJ , Marcondes and Maolida compared to the likes of Mckirdy , Jair , melkersen, taits etc i think have been a lot better quality .

Midfield for me was the most obvious position to address . I thought it was unlikely at the time with knowing how tough a window it was and with already having a bloated squad we were going to be able to address both midfield and defence in it . It would have been good if we had been able to though.

The first two you mention weren’t in the last two windows.

I also think it’s ridiculous to suggest that we couldn’t have improved thing defensively in the last two windows.

[PHeffernan]

We could have got Findlay last year but we didn’t and went to Killie. Has performed well for them at the back

We can get Findlay this year as well.
He belongs to Oxford and has 2 years left on his contract. He cost them a decent transfer fee and will be on a good wage.
As such he would cost a few bob in wages and possibly a decent transfer fee to acquire but is available to the highest bidder.
Has always been a very good central defender but not much cope on the ball.

[Paul1642]

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I’d forgotten about Bevan. Just a big what if but I wonder how our season might had gone if he hadn’t gotten injured. We missed top 6 by a whisker and that was largely down to the CB position.

[bingo70]

I’d forgotten about Bevan. Just a big what if but I wonder how our season might had gone if he hadn’t gotten injured. We missed top 6 by a whisker and that was largely down to the CB position.

He’d been injured for about 2 months when we signed him. We couldn’t or shouldn’t have been that surprised when he got injured again.

I liked the look and sound of him, I hope we get him in the summer. He was never likely to be what we needed in January though.

[PHeffernan]

I’d forgotten about Bevan. Just a big what if but I wonder how our season might had gone if he hadn’t gotten injured. We missed top 6 by a whisker and that was largely down to the CB position.

Playing the Hanlon Fish central partnership would almost certainly have seen us in the top 6 but I think the club were trying to get Bushiri in the shop window this season for sale this summer with his contract up in summer 2025. Another cunning plan ...
Bevan played 3rd tier in England this season and won a lot of plaudits before getting injured so hopefully he can do it for us next season.
Wigan are apparently speaking to Josh Kerr and his representatives about a new contract so if we want him we better be in there as well.

[Donegal Hibby]

The first two you mention weren’t in the last two windows.

I also think it’s ridiculous to suggest that we couldn’t have improved thing defensively in the last two windows.

Yeah your right .

The last window our signings I thought were excellent considering it's often described as the hardest. You've probably got a good case for the previous window in not sorting the defence though the last one I got the impression because we have so many players and had taken in what we did we weren't probably able to do anymore .

We often hear managers saying that they have to move on players before taking in more , I'm sure Monty mentioned that the 18 we have out on loan had an effect on this .

[PHeffernan]

The signings like Mykola , CJ , Marcondes and Maolida compared to the likes of Mckirdy , Jair , melkersen, taits etc i think have been a lot better quality .

Midfield for me was the most obvious position to address . I thought it was unlikely at the time with knowing how tough a window it was and with already having a bloated squad we were going to be able to address both midfield and defence in it . It would have been good if we had been able to though.

So we can borrow good players but can only afford to buy jobbers other than Melkersen who we probably made £200k on after outlays.
Incidentally Melkersen starts at centre forward every week for Stromgodset who are 5th equal with Rosenborg in the Norwegian Eliteserien.

[Aldo]

Yeah your right .

The last window our signings I thought were excellent considering it's often described as the hardest. You've probably got a good case for the previous window in not sorting the defence though the last one I got the impression because we have so many players and had taken in what we did we weren't probably able to do anymore .

We often hear managers saying that they have to move on players before taking in more , I'm sure Monty mentioned that the 18 we have out on loan had an effect on this .

Yet his no1 target was a 20 year old CH with 58 first team appearances.

[Paulie Walnuts]

At the time he couldn’t get his game for a poor English league one (or two?) side. Derek McInnes has done well to get the most out of him. I don’t think it’s a given we would have had the same success.

Agree.

And that just shows what a good manager can do.

I’ve little doubt our dud managers would have made him look like a honking jobby.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yet his no1 target was a 20 year old CH with 58 first team appearances.

True though how many appearances had NMW before we signed him ? . Personally I think he's a good player who'll get better .

[Aldo]

True though how many appearances had NMW before we signed him ? . Personally I think he's a good player who'll get better .

You miss my point. Your previous post stated we didn’t get the defence sorted because we probably had too many players yet his no1 target was a 20 year old CH?

Why not sign an experienced CH? That’s my point.

[Donegal Hibby]

You miss my point. Your previous post stated we didn’t get the defence sorted because we probably had too many players yet his no1 target was a 20 year old CH?

Why not sign an experienced CH? That’s my point.

Fair enough point though would we have got a good experience CH from a club in January on loan without paying a fee as opposed to a younger one on loan . My impression from what managers say is most clubs don't want to lose their better players in the January window.

[PHeffernan]

You miss my point. Your previous post stated we didn’t get the defence sorted because we probably had too many players yet his no1 target was a 20 year old CH?

Why not sign an experienced CH? That’s my point.

What quality experienced centre half was available in January?
Generally only duffers and youngsters are available in that window unless you have big bucks and want to pay over the odds.

Getting Maolida was unbelieveable and was probably the best January signing of any Scottish club including Rantic.
Come to think of it, I don't think any team outside Rantic and Hibs signed a single decent player in January, including centre halves and that was not out of choice.
Hibs also managed to grab Marcondes, NMW and Amos. Unfortunately the centre halves they managed to grab didn't work out but it wasn't through a lack of effort.

[B.H.F.C]

What quality experienced centre half was available in January?
Generally only duffers and youngsters are available in that window unless you have big bucks and want to pay over the odds.
Getting Maolida was unbelieveable and was probably the best January signing of any Scottish club including Rantic.
Come to think of it, I don't think any team outside Rantic and Hibs signed a single decent player in January and that was not out of choice.

Pay what you need to. We’ve signed loads of good players in January over the years. Plenty of which you’ll never have heard of. This idea you can’t do it in January is bollocks. The alternative was not paying to address the issue which had probably cost us a million quid in prize money and gate revenue .

There are thousands of footballers in the world. We could have got a decent, experienced centre half in January if we’d wanted to. They didn’t even need to be quality. Competent would have been a big improvement. We wanted an inexperienced 20 year old though. He wasn’t a fall back, we wanted him.

[Donegal Hibby]

What quality experienced centre half was available in January?
Generally only duffers and youngsters are available in that window unless you have big bucks and want to pay over the odds.
Getting Maolida was unbelieveable and was probably the best January signing of any Scottish club including Rantic.
Come to think of it, I don't think any team outside Rantic and Hibs signed a single decent player in January and that was not out of choice.

If we were to have signed one it probably wouldn't have been a loan , we'd probably had to buy one paying well over the odds too.

Your spot on about Maolida , what a great player he is ! .

Club done well in getting him and we were also abit fortunate the manager he had didn't like him . I think he called him something like the laziest player he worked with or something along them lines .

Wouldn't mind a few more lazy players like him tbh :greengrin

[PHeffernan]

Pay what you need to. We’ve signed loads of good players in January over the years. Plenty of which you’ll never have heard of. This idea you can’t do it in January is bollocks. The alternative was not paying to address the issue which had probably cost us a million quid in prize money and gate revenue .

There are thousands of footballers in the world. We could have got a decent, experienced centre half in January if we’d wanted to. They didn’t even need to be quality. Competent would have been a big improvement. We wanted an inexperienced 20 year old though. He wasn’t a fall back, we wanted him.

We had and have a decent experienced centre half in Hanlon and had they combined him with Fish as they did in the second half of last season Hibs would have finished in the top 6. Fish will almost certainly be playing in the English Championship next season and Hanlon is likely to be somewhere like Kilmarnock.
Again can you name a single centre half that was signed in January 2024, outside of the elite leagues, that is better than Hanlon or Fish.

The two goals conceded against Ross County last time out is the reason we didn't make the top 6. Basically impossible to win if you are making mistakes like that and we have done it all season. I'm laying it at the managers door.

[TrinityHFC]

Pay what you need to. We’ve signed loads of good players in January over the years. Plenty of which you’ll never have heard of. This idea you can’t do it in January is bollocks. The alternative was not paying to address the issue which had probably cost us a million quid in prize money and gate revenue .

There are thousands of footballers in the world. We could have got a decent, experienced centre half in January if we’d wanted to. They didn’t even need to be quality. Competent would have been a big improvement. We wanted an inexperienced 20 year old though. He wasn’t a fall back, we wanted him.

We signed seven players when really 2 or 3 good ones would have done. We signed two centre halfs and never improved that position.

[PHeffernan]

We signed seven players when really 2 or 3 good ones would have done. We signed two centre halfs and never improved that position.

Okay, same question to yourself:
Can you name a single centre half that was signed in January 2024, outside of the elite leagues, that is better than Hanlon or Fish?

The January transfer market is guys that are doing a managers head in (Maolida) guys coming back from a long term medical condition (McKirdy) guys coming back from long term injury (Marcondes) young guys needing games to develop (Triantes, Mayenda) guys without a club (Amos) guys that are out of contract in the summer who are not playing to get them off the wage bill (NMW).

Basically other clubs surplus to requirement players that haven't played for ages for the 1st team, are not in the matchday squad and not match fit.

[Aldo]

We had and have a decent experienced centre half in Hanlon and had they combined him with Fish as they did in the second half of last season Hibs would have finished in the top 6. Fish will almost certainly be playing in the English Championship next season and Hanlon is likely to be somewhere like Kilmarnock.
Again can you name a single centre half that was signed in January 2024, outside of the elite leagues, that is better than Hanlon or Fish.

The two goals conceded against Ross County last time out is the reason we didn't make the top 6. Basically impossible to win if you are making mistakes like that and we have done it all season. I'm laying it at the managers door.

The manager and his coaches don’t rate Paul Hanlon hence his lack of game time. He’s our best CH yet sits scratching his arse watching the manager bring in this very inexperienced CH, who made mistakes costing us goals.

We have 2 other CH’s who are not as good as Paul and mistake after mistake has cost us.

We should never have been in a position we were in however our manager knew best (and yes that’s what he gets paid the buck for) failing to play our best players in their best positions.

The managers inability to adapt to what he had in front of him cost us during a period where we’re were cut through like a hot knife through butter by the opposition. Poor tactics and formations.

I know someone will come along with the XG or whatever it is saying playing Paul cost us more goals when he played but no one knows what could have been as he didn’t play.

You play your best players in their best position and take it from there.



As for your comment about good players costing money. We signed a injured Bevan and a poor Mayenda so maybe the money we used initially for their wages could have got us a half decent CH

[NC1875]

If Hanlon played we’d have made top 6 😂

What a load of *****, absolute guesswork.

The same Hanlon that was bullied by Simon Murray last week, aye ok then.

He’s as bad as the other 2.

[Aldo]

If Hanlon played we’d have made top 6 [emoji23]

What a load of *****, absolute guesswork.

The same Hanlon that was bullied by Simon Murray last week, aye ok then.

He’s as bad as the other 2.

Paul is our best CH and our only LCH, and maybe not everyone’s cup of tea or the answer but he should have been playing. Rocky and Triantis ahead of him [emoji2369]

I know you are not a Paul Hanlon fan so You must have been gutted when the soft touch Paul Hanlon scored the other week!

[TrinityHFC]

Okay, same question to yourself:
Can you name a single centre half that was signed in January 2024, outside of the elite leagues, that is better than Hanlon or Fish?

The January transfer market is guys that are doing a managers head in (Maolida) guys coming back from a long term medical condition (McKirdy) guys coming back from long term injury (Marcondes) young guys needing games to develop (Triantes, Mayenda) guys without a club (Amos) guys that are out of contract in the summer who are not playing to get them off the wage bill (NMW).

Basically other clubs surplus to requirement players that haven't played for ages for the 1st team, are not in the matchday squad and not match fit.

You’d also have to ask me about players that no one signed but could have been available. Not having a recruitment team and tools at my disposal I can’t answer that question either.

We did get some decent players in other positions. We didn’t do well enough finding defenders which was unfortunately what we needed most.

[easty]

Okay, same question to yourself:
Can you name a single centre half that was signed in January 2024, outside of the elite leagues, that is better than Hanlon or Fish?


That’s nonsense. If we’d not signed Maolida, and you asked for examples of any player signed in Jan who’d have been able to score us 9+ goals between then and the end of the season I’d not have been able to give you examples, but we got one, so they do exist.

Of course there were better centre halfs available in January.

[WhileTheChief..]

If Hanlon played we’d have made top 6 😂

What a load of *****, absolute guesswork.

The same Hanlon that was bullied by Simon Murray last week, aye ok then.

He’s as bad as the other 2.

Rocky and Triantis will never be anywhere near as good as Hanlon was /is.

Neither of them are any good and need replaced pronto.