Summer transfer thread 2024/25

[Paul1642]

£150k - wee bit more added to the kitty!

Plus his wages which were rumoured by someone on here (no idea who) to be decent.

[GloryGlory]

Plus his wages which were rumoured by someone on here (no idea who) to be decent.

Yep.

Another couple shipped out on similar terms would be a nice bonus!

[truehibernian]

Plus his wages which were rumoured by someone on here (no idea who) to be decent.

Moving Jair on regardless of a fee would be even better in terms of releasing a very high wage. Could easily get two in for what he’s earning and much more outcome and end product.

[Unseen work]

Great move for Henderson.

Must have done well before the club who got promoted want him in the top flight.

Hope it works out well for him.

[J-C]

Henderson was a poor move by Hibs, showed nothing on loan when at Celtic but maybe clouded by the fact Liam was his brother, good luck to the lad.

[JohnM1875]

https://x.com/adamleventhal/status/1808157254991954161?s=46&t=0nRkzv4cRHTmCrZKGvswkg
Henderson on the move

That’s a great move for Henderson and class that we’ve managed to get a fee for him.

Things definitely seem to be working a lot better these days. Starting to feel like Hibs again

[O'Rourke3]

Great move for Henderson.

Must have done well before the club who got promoted want him in the top flight.

Hope it works out well for him.

From a family member. Celtic kept Liam on the books to encourage Ewan to sign on to a full time contract they were so afraid of losing him. Things clearly didn't work out......

[J-C]

From a family member. Celtic kept Liam on the books to encourage Ewan to sign on to a full time contract they were so afraid of losing him. Things clearly didn't work out......

I'd heard when they were younger, Ewan was the better of the 2, some players just don't develop as you'd expect.

[JimBHibees]

I'd heard when they were younger, Ewan was the better of the 2, some players just don't develop as you'd expect.

Think Celtic had high hopes maybe didn’t develop physically as he might have done

[Since452]

Was that the mob Shankland signed for in Belgium? Delighted to get some decent money for him. Should use it on Simon Murray 😉

[Bridge hibs]

Was that the mob Shankland signed for in Belgium? Delighted to get some decent money for him. Should use it on Simon Murray 😉

Yeah, went to Beerschot and came back with a Beergut

[w pilton hibby]

Moving Jair on regardless of a fee would be even better in terms of releasing a very high wage. Could easily get two in for what he’s earning and much more outcome and end product.

How much is he getting paid?

[Donegal Hibby]

£150k - wee bit more added to the kitty!

150k , would that be a wee tempting offer to Ross County for Murray possibly ? .

[hibee-boys]

How much is he getting paid?

Minimum wage would be too much.

[flash]

Minimum wage would be too much.

Really?

[cabbageandribs1875]

best o luck Ewan :agree:

[Hibs4185]

Out - £150k for Henderson
In - £150k for Murray

Deal of the century

[JohnM1875]

Out - £150k for Henderson
In - £150k for Murray

Deal of the century

Would it be as much as that for Murray? 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Chat he wants the move as well. Coming off a great season so you're maybe right

[NGoloGrantie]

Out - £150k for Henderson
In - £150k for Murray

Deal of the century

Really hope we don’t pay that much for Simon Murray. Preferably we get him on a free


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[ElginHibee]

Really hope we don’t pay that much for Simon Murray. Preferably we get him on a free


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If I was Ross County, I'd be wanting a fee, 1 year left on contract and one of last seasons better performers in their team. If we do go for him, hopefully it's not too much.

[500miles]

Would it be as much as that for Murray? 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Chat he wants the move as well. Coming off ay great season so you're maybe right

If we done a player swap we'd be saying we robbed them, so I think it would be a good deal for us.

[JohnM1875]

If we done a player swap we'd be saying we robbed them, so I think it would be a good deal for us.

£50k and McKirdy

[Cod Boy]

£50k and McKirdy

Can’t see Mckirdy settling in the highlands 😀

[JohnM1875]

Can’t see Mckirdy settling in the highlands 😀

Haha same to be fair, too far from London.

The more it goes on the more I hope we sign Murray. Just seems like such a smart transfer with little real risk.

[davemcbain]

Can’t see Mckirdy settling in the highlands 😀

Could see him down the wimpy on a Wednesday night, livin the dream :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

With Henderson away (almost) that will take our first team squad down to 24 according to transfermrkt. Still a number of outs still expected.

[HendoDelivered]

Poster on the bounce reckons Murray wont be returning. Seems to be credible with his info.

[Unseen work]

Poster on the bounce reckons Murray wont be returning. Seems to be credible with his info.

I can see why.

He’s worth more to Ross County than the amount we’d be willing to pay for him due to his age.

Would have been a brilliant signing for free. But he could be the difference in Ross county staying in the league or being relegated so they’d want a big fee

[sauzee1989]

Poster on the bounce reckons Murray wont be returning. Seems to be credible with his info.

Good news! He would be a very underwhelming singing giving the fact we are meant to have 3m to spend

[Donegal Hibby]

Good news! He would be a very underwhelming singing giving the fact we are meant to have 3m to spend

Where are you getting the 3 mil from ?

[greenlex]

Where are you getting the 3 mil from ?

A provy cheque.

[sauzee1989]

Where are you getting the 3 mil from ?

It was a well known fact we had 2million budget they quoted not long ago/ adding the fact we should have Youan money to come. We will probably have close to 3m.

[Donegal Hibby]

It was a well known fact we had 2million budget they quoted not long ago/ adding the fact we should have Youan money to come. We will probably have close to 3m.

I honestly can't remember the club mentioning we had a 2 million budget , how long ago was that stated ? . The thing about Youan is until a club meets our valuation of the player he won't be going anywhere and rightly so .

[Iain G]

Nathan Wood could be on his way to Southampton, permanent deal.

For 5 million pounds!

[erin go bragh]

Would it be as much as that for Murray? 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Chat he wants the move as well. Coming off a great season so you're maybe right

150k and Jair

[KeithWright9]

For 5 million pounds!

It was clearly that one appearance for the Hibees that made him who he is 😁

[scm70nyd1973]

A provy cheque.

Aha - someone of my vintage 🤭

[Lago]

It was a well known fact we had 2million budget they quoted not long ago/ adding the fact we should have Youan money to come. We will probably have close to 3m.
Now your just making stuff up, behave.

[leith lynx]

150k and Jair

They can keep Murray as well!

[Since452]

For 5 million pounds!

The mind boggles

[Chorley Hibee]

Now your just making stuff up, behave.

There were a few interviews recently, were Foley himself mentioned a few million being available to spend in the summer.

What that exact figure is, I don't know.

What I do know, is that the current squad is still miles away from being ready to challenge for Europe and trophies.

[Hibiza]

Yeah, went to Beerschot and came back with a Beergut

😂

[superfurryhibby]

There were a few interviews recently, were Foley himself mentioned a few million being available to spend in the summer.

What that exact figure is, I don't know.

What I do know, is that the current squad is still miles away from being ready to challenge for Europe and trophies.

"And now it has been revealed just how much of a boost they will initially get. According to the SXXXXXXX SXX, Foley will pump in £6m to begin with, as soon as he gets the green light for his minority investment.

More good news for fans is that a large chunk of that will be on player recruitment while they will also look to upgrade their East Mains training facility with the addition of a full-size indoor pitch.

Foley has spoken about the potential of Hibs and the ambition to make them the third force in Scottish football and sees them as a feeder club for Bournemouth, with both benefiting from the exchange of players and resources".

"After the Scottish FA cleared the way for his minority investment in Hibernian, Bournemouth owner Bill Foley has been speaking to BBC Scotland.

Here are the key points...

Foley wants Hibs to become "serial contenders for Europe, as opposed to just occasionally". His short-term goal is to have the side playing in the Europa League.

On a long-term scale, he aims to challenge Celtic and Rangers for the Scottish Premiership title, but admits it will take years. Adds it will require opening new revenue streams and developing homegrown talent.

The club will have a "few million pounds" to use in the summer transfer window with the goal of "evolving" the team.

Foley has always been "fascinated" with the Premiership since taking over at Bournemouth due to lack of "immigration issues" and talent development opportunities. However, he says he was told the SFA would not allow him to invest.

He "understood" SFA concerns, but "happy" not to hold management responsibilities.

Other clubs were scouted for potential investment. Celtic and Rangers were "unobtainable", while Aberdeen were "interesting" and Hearts were "more of a community-owned team". Hibs' location, fanbase and American ownership appealed to Foley, as well as a "kinship" with Scotland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c72g8rx8841o

[easty]

It was a well known fact we had 2million budget they quoted not long ago/ adding the fact we should have Youan money to come. We will probably have close to 3m.

It wasn't.

[Greenworld]

I honestly can't remember the club mentioning we had a 2 million budget , how long ago was that stated ? . The thing about Youan is until a club meets our valuation of the player he won't be going anywhere and rightly so .The club will have a budget for the first team .
That budget I assume covers everything from buying players to paying wages .
The 2 million was mentioned out of the 6 million investment from the knights .
I don't know the overall first team budget but say it was 7 million with the investment it would now be 9 million .
MM has been clever saying he won't be spending on big transfers .
Next season is a different ball game with all the out of contract players

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[JohnM1875]

It wasn't.

Did Foley not say as much in an interview not long after the investment was announced? I’m sure he did.

[Chorley Hibee]

"And now it has been revealed just how much of a boost they will initially get. According to the SXXXXXXX SXX, Foley will pump in £6m to begin with, as soon as he gets the green light for his minority investment.

More good news for fans is that a large chunk of that will be on player recruitment while they will also look to upgrade their East Mains training facility with the addition of a full-size indoor pitch.

Foley has spoken about the potential of Hibs and the ambition to make them the third force in Scottish football and sees them as a feeder club for Bournemouth, with both benefiting from the exchange of players and resources".

"After the Scottish FA cleared the way for his minority investment in Hibernian, Bournemouth owner Bill Foley has been speaking to BBC Scotland.

Here are the key points...

Foley wants Hibs to become "serial contenders for Europe, as opposed to just occasionally". His short-term goal is to have the side playing in the Europa League.

On a long-term scale, he aims to challenge Celtic and Rangers for the Scottish Premiership title, but admits it will take years. Adds it will require opening new revenue streams and developing homegrown talent.

The club will have a "few million pounds" to use in the summer transfer window with the goal of "evolving" the team.

Foley has always been "fascinated" with the Premiership since taking over at Bournemouth due to lack of "immigration issues" and talent development opportunities. However, he says he was told the SFA would not allow him to invest.

He "understood" SFA concerns, but "happy" not to hold management responsibilities.

Other clubs were scouted for potential investment. Celtic and Rangers were "unobtainable", while Aberdeen were "interesting" and Hearts were "more of a community-owned team". Hibs' location, fanbase and American ownership appealed to Foley, as well as a "kinship" with Scotland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c72g8rx8841o

Thanks, I knew I hadn't imagined it.

Then Kensell himself stated that funds for other projects were being diverted towards the first team, and that's all before any players were sold.

There should be a considerable kitty available to bring in players this summer, and there needs to be an influx of quality over the coming weeks, otherwise you can file this coming season alongside the crap from the last few years.

[keep the faith]

150k and Jair

£150k fee. Extra 100k if they take Jair!!

[Chorley Hibee]

It wasn't.

Foley himself said there was "a few million" available for transfers in the summer.

[easty]

Did Foley not say as much in an interview not long after the investment was announced? I’m sure he did.


Foley himself said there was "a few million" available for transfers in the summer.

A £2m budget doesn't mean £2m for transfers.

I could be wrong, maybe we've said we'll spend a few million on transfers, and will do it, but I doubt it.

[Smartie]

A £2m budget doesn't mean £2m for transfers.

I could be wrong, maybe we've said we'll spend a few million on transfers, and will do it, but I doubt it.

Yeah - and I’d be surprised if the 3 signings already made hadn’t set us back a fair bit in signing on fees and wages.

Transfer money gets swallowed up fairly quickly.

[JohnM1875]

A £2m budget doesn't mean £2m for transfers.

I could be wrong, maybe we've said we'll spend a few million on transfers, and will do it, but I doubt it.

I’m sure he said a £2 million transfer budget. Could be wrong.

Be very surprised if we didn’t have at least that with the amount of money invested since January and the fact we basically spent that last summer.

[Chorley Hibee]

A £2m budget doesn't mean £2m for transfers.

I could be wrong, maybe we've said we'll spend a few million on transfers, and will do it, but I doubt it.

Agreed, but there seems to be a bit of a narrative building that we don't have money to spend.

That really shouldn't be the case, particularly given what we've been told about this investment by both Foley and Kensell.

If we are skint, then there needs to be serious questions asked of the people in charge.

That current squad requires serious work.

Without it, we're in danger of yet another, at best, mediocre season, and at worst, well let's not even go there.

[04Sauzee]

Hearts looking to move some bodies on

❗ Hearts duo Nathaniel Atkinson and Toby Sibbick are available for transfer.

❌ No offers for either player, or ANY Hearts player for that matter.

🗣 Steven Naismith explains the decision:

[superfurryhibby]

Thanks, I knew I hadn't imagined it.

Then Kensell himself stated that funds for other projects were being diverted towards the first team, and that's all before any players were sold.

There should be a considerable kitty available to bring in players this summer, and there needs to be an influx of quality over the coming weeks, otherwise you can file this coming season alongside the crap from the last few years.

Aside from the money from the Foley group, which surely will be substantial, we have removed a number of players from the first team budget.

I'm struggling to understand why anyone would doubt that Hibs should have a player budget that isn't greater than what we have been accustomed to? As you correctly say, we have shed a fair number of players from our squad. The likes of Doidge, Melkersen, Hanlon, Stevenson, Marshall must have been on good wages. With Henderson also departing, you would think those wages alone would free up a decent wedge.

[easty]

Aside from the money from the Foley group, which surely will be substantial, we have removed a number of players from the first team budget.

I'm struggling to understand why anyone would doubt that Hibs should have a player budget that isn't greater than what we have been accustomed to? As you correctly say, we have shed a fair number of players from our squad. The likes of Doidge, Melkersen, Hanlon, Stevenson, Marshall must have been on good wages. With Henderson also departing, you would think those wages alone would free up a decent wedge.

There's definitely a middle ground between thinking we're skint, and thinking we'll spend £2m on transfers.

I think we'll continue to bring in players who would be out of the financial reach of a lot of SPL clubs. I don't think when the transfer window shuts we'll have paid out £2m in transfer fees.

[Alex Trager]

Hearts looking to move some bodies on

❗ Hearts duo Nathaniel Atkinson and Toby Sibbick are available for transfer.

❌ No offers for either player, or ANY Hearts player for that matter.

🗣 Steven Naismith explains the decision:
How does Shankland remain?

Mental that no one is sniffing about.

[eastterrace]

It wasn't.
It was

[GreenCastle]

Our season starts in 10 days and we are still weaker than last season currently.

Maybe improved at the back but lack of goals is a concern (yes I know we scored 5 at the weekend against a load of part time players).

The next few players who come in are crucial to improving us - maybe not the left back but midfield and up front really important.

- We need a left back (Obita back up or better ) -
- left footed left winger (who was our last good left footed winger??!)
- central midfielder with drive and can create / assist (playmaker)
- central midfielder who can tackle *CDM*
- striker who replaces Myzianes goals

That's 5 players if we expect to improve - I don't expect 5 in but that's what we need. If we avoid the central midfield area we will have serious issues again.

[superfurryhibby]

There's definitely a middle ground between thinking we're skint, and thinking we'll spend £2m on transfers.

I think we'll continue to bring in players who would be out of the financial reach of a lot of SPL clubs. I don't think when the transfer window shuts we'll have paid out £2m in transfer fees.

Last season we were alleged to have paid substantial fees for Levitt, Youan and Vente 1.5million combined, possibly more?

When you look at the departures, the fee for Melkersen and the statements made by the Foley group about money-The club will have a "few million pounds" to use in the summer transfer window with the goal of "evolving" the team. It would be a big surprise if Hibs weren't bringing in players out with the reach of most SPFL clubs.

I'm expecting decent investment in the first team this summer, it's desperately in need of quality.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

How does Shankland remain?

Mental that no one is sniffing about.

Because he runs like he’s towing a caravan, can’t get beyond a defender, isn’t strong enough to play as a target man and his forehead makes him a dream for any budding sniper out there.

He’s at the highest level he’ll ever reach. And unless The Rangers make a move for him, I suspect he’ll stay at Hearts. Celtic don’t want him, he won’t go to Hibs or Aberdeen either and it looks like no club in the English Championship sees any value in him. Mainly because he’s fat and slow.

[CentreForward]

Because he runs like he’s towing a caravan, can’t get beyond a defender, isn’t strong enough to play as a target man and his forehead makes him a dream for any budding sniper out there.

He’s at the highest level he’ll ever reach. And unless The Rangers make a move for him, I suspect he’ll stay at Hearts. Celtic don’t want him, he won’t go to Hibs or Aberdeen either and it looks like no club in the English Championship sees any value in him. Mainly because he’s fat and slow.


All of which is really bad news because if he stays at Hearts he will no doubt continue to score so many goals.

[Springbank]

Our season starts in 10 days and we are still weaker than last season currently.

Maybe improved at the back but lack of goals is a concern (yes I know we scored 5 at the weekend against a load of part time players).

The next few players who come in are crucial to improving us - maybe not the left back but midfield and up front really important.

- We need a left back (Obita back up or better ) -
- left footed left winger (who was our last good left footed winger??!)
- central midfielder with drive and can create / assist (playmaker)
- central midfielder who can tackle *CDM*
- striker who replaces Myzianes goals

That's 5 players if we expect to improve - I don't expect 5 in but that's what we need. If we avoid the central midfield area we will have serious issues again.

I'd say (for the LC group stages)

* we don't need a left back as priority (though if one becomes available over time we should be alive to opportunities, as back up - just not a priority)
* we have Boyle and Youan as wide men for LC Groups - one or both may attract offers - but we don'[t need to prioritise this right now
* centre mid - agree - this is the area that, if you improve (with a Lennon Miller) you find suddenly your defence looks better than it used to and so does your attack - it's the next critical area (and the area we should be prepared to splash cash, McGinn style) Lennon Miller all day long for me
* Striker - yes, agree - but if you hear David Gray (and I say this in support of SDG) he has talked about using the market to buy the core of the team (GK, CHs, maybe CM) with the Black Knights loanee contacts then being used to "top up" the core group with stardust like Maolida and Marcondes were intended to do last year

So I reckon CM is absolute priority, and the other areas are more for opportunism (just my view)

Bids for Youan/Boyle/others may change that strategy of course

[GreenCastle]

Because he runs like he’s towing a caravan, can’t get beyond a defender, isn’t strong enough to play as a target man and his forehead makes him a dream for any budding sniper out there.

He’s at the highest level he’ll ever reach. And unless The Rangers make a move for him, I suspect he’ll stay at Hearts. Celtic don’t want him, he won’t go to Hibs or Aberdeen either and it looks like no club in the English Championship sees any value in him. Mainly because he’s fat and slow.

Exactly.

Hearts are fortunate they had Craig Gordon all those years pulling off wonder saves and winning them games and now they have Shankland who scores goals for fun in this league but won't move elsewhere unless Rangers are desperate but with all the Rangers stadium issues not sure they can afford what Hearts want for him.

[Hibees1973]

For this transfer window there should come a point when there will be clear evidence of Black Knights involvement. From the three guys we have signed so far they would appear, on the surface, to be Hibs own recruitment team targets. This obviously just a guess though.

I reckon there will be players highlighted by and within the Black Knights group getting analysed by MacKay and Gray. Is this not one of the key reasons why the Black Knights have a share in the club.

It's positive Hibs have moved a good number of under achievers out and much as our squad size looks more sensible numbers wise, the quality is miles short to get to Foley's target of achieving regular group stage European football.

I hope and expect we move out another 7 or 8. With a similar number, mainly from Black Knights clubs, coming in of experience and from a level of proven quality.

[KeithWright9]

Because he runs like he’s towing a caravan, can’t get beyond a defender, isn’t strong enough to play as a target man and his forehead makes him a dream for any budding sniper out there.

He’s at the highest level he’ll ever reach. And unless The Rangers make a move for him, I suspect he’ll stay at Hearts. Celtic don’t want him, he won’t go to Hibs or Aberdeen either and it looks like no club in the English Championship sees any value in him. Mainly because he’s fat and slow.

A wee bit personal. You surely can't think he is fat, he might not be the fastest but he's the best natural finisher Scotland have had since Leigh Griffiths and he will continue to score barrow loads in the SPL. I hope for him he get's a move down to England and finds a way to grab an extra half yard of pace because Scotland need him. By the way he got beyond our defenders plenty... let's not remind ourselves of that!

[ancient hibee]

Exactly.

Hearts are fortunate they had Craig Gordon all those years pulling off wonder saves and winning them games and now they have Shankland who scores goals for fun in this league but won't move elsewhere unless Rangers are desperate but with all the Rangers stadium issues not sure they can afford what Hearts want for him.

Not fortunate at all surely. It’s what happens when you sigh good players who perform as you expect. A complete contrast to what we’ve been doing over the last few seasons.

[Waxy]

How does Shankland remain?

Mental that no one is sniffing about.

He’ll go in January when he’s in the bargain bin.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Archie Gray becomes the 4th most expensive 18 year old in history

£40m transfer fee to Spurs


don't imagine Brentford fans will be too happy after passing a medical there last week and agreeing a £75k/week salary before changing his mind

[hibeerealist]

A wee bit personal. You surely can't think he is fat, he might not be the fastest but he's the best natural finisher Scotland have had since Leigh Griffiths and he will continue to score barrow loads in the SPL. I hope for him he get's a move down to England and finds a way to grab an extra half yard of pace because Scotland need him. By the way he got beyond our defenders plenty... let's not remind ourselves of that!


That wasn't too difficult though, was it?

[Tully]

Archie Gray becomes the 4th most expensive 18 year old in history

£40m transfer fee to Spurs


don't imagine Brentford fans will be too happy after passing a medical there last week and agreeing a £75k/week salary before changing his mind
Just shows you how mad football is in the epl, Brentford paying players 75k plus a week , not that long ago they were a two bob outfit unreal

[DIXIHIBS]

A wee bit personal. You surely can't think he is fat, he might not be the fastest but he's the best natural finisher Scotland have had since Leigh Griffiths and he will continue to score barrow loads in the SPL. I hope for him he get's a move down to England and finds a way to grab an extra half yard of pace because Scotland need him. By the way he got beyond our defenders plenty... let's not remind ourselves of that!

He's a fat hertz tw@t with a massive fiveheid...hope that not too personal 😜

[Bridge hibs]

He's a fat hertz tw@t with a massive fiveheid...hope that not too personal 😜

🤣

[Tyler Durden]

Our season starts in 10 days and we are still weaker than last season currently.

Maybe improved at the back but lack of goals is a concern (yes I know we scored 5 at the weekend against a load of part time players).

The next few players who come in are crucial to improving us - maybe not the left back but midfield and up front really important.

- We need a left back (Obita back up or better ) -
- left footed left winger (who was our last good left footed winger??!)
- central midfielder with drive and can create / assist (playmaker)
- central midfielder who can tackle *CDM*
- striker who replaces Myzianes goals

That's 5 players if we expect to improve - I don't expect 5 in but that's what we need. If we avoid the central midfield area we will have serious issues again.

I agree with the playmaker shout but not sure about some others here.

There aren't many left footed wingers who play on the left these days. Myziane's goals mainly came as a left winger with a right foot.

We have NMW and Amos who can tackle and will be the base of the midfield.

[superfurryhibby]

I agree with the playmaker shout but not sure about some others here.

There aren't many left footed wingers who play on the left these days. Myziane's goals mainly came as a left winger with a right foot.

We have NMW and Amos who can tackle and will be the base of the midfield.

At the moment we don't really know if Amos will play regularly. There is a fear that he will be another Magennis.

I remain unconvinced about NMW. He's still very young and inexperienced. He didn't really set the heather alight, albeit that he played in a dire midfield. If we sign some quality, a McCowan or Allan Campbell, my optimism will increase.

[Callum_62]

Archie Gray becomes the 4th most expensive 18 year old in history

£40m transfer fee to Spurs


don't imagine Brentford fans will be too happy after passing a medical there last week and agreeing a £75k/week salary before changing his mindDidn't it fall through as they couldn't agree a payment structure?

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[Springbank]

Have you seen the Todd Cantwell story

Absolutely priceless - peak Sevco and couldn't have happened to a nicer victim than Cantwell (Imo)

https://football-italia.net/ex-liverpool-defender-rangers-man-lecce-wrong/

This is from Football Italia but you'll find the story has also just broken in the Daily Record etc (I can't bring myself to link to the Sun or DR)

In summary, Cantwell's agent was instructed to offer Cantwell to Lecce
So he sent a private message on Instagram (what???) to the Lecce manager to ask if he was interested
Only, he didn't send it to the Lecce Manager - he sent it to a fan page with a similar name, by mistake :cb
And the fan page (as you would) immediately published it haha

[Tyler Durden]

At the moment we don't really know if Amos will play regularly. There is a fear that he will be another Magennis.

I remain unconvinced about NMW. He's still very young and inexperienced. He didn't really set the heather alight, albeit that he played in a dire midfield. If we sign some quality, a McCowan or Allan Campbell, my optimism will increase.

I get that people will doubt Amos but he’s ours, he’s here now and he’s fit as it stands. I don’t think we’ll be rushing to replace him while we still have Newell, JDH and Levitt aswell on the books.

I think all of these players, plus NMW, look much more effective in a properly organised team with experienced defenders behind them. For all our problems last season our midfield weren’t being overrun or outplayed very often.

[superfurryhibby]

I get that people will doubt Amos but he’s ours, he’s here now and he’s fit as it stands. I don’t think we’ll be rushing to replace him while we still have Newell, JDH and Levitt aswell on the books.

I think all of these players, plus NMW, look much more effective in a properly organised team with experienced defenders behind them. For all our problems last season our midfield weren’t being overrun or outplayed very often.

I agree, Amos is potentially a big player for us this season.

We could do with losing any two from the three you name. The overrun or outplayed part is a very moot point, we were well cuffed in plenty of games last season and not just by the Old Firm. For me we need a quality addition to that area of the field, someone who will improve us significantly as we lacked creativity from the central area.

[CapitalGreen]

I agree, Amos is potentially a big player for us this season.

We could do with losing any two from the three you name. The overrun or outplayed part is a very moot point, we were well cuffed in plenty of games last season and not just by the Old Firm. For me we need a quality addition to that area of the field, someone who will improve us significantly as we lacked creativity from the central area.

It’s not just moot, it’s false - there were numerous games where our midfield were overrun, outplayed and I’ll add outfought as well.

[Stairway 2 7]

NMW was 21 when he signed in January and put in some really good performances, not a single chance he's going anywhere, thankfully

[Hibernian Verse]

For this transfer window there should come a point when there will be clear evidence of Black Knights involvement. From the three guys we have signed so far they would appear, on the surface, to be Hibs own recruitment team targets. This obviously just a guess though.

I reckon there will be players highlighted by and within the Black Knights group getting analysed by MacKay and Gray. Is this not one of the key reasons why the Black Knights have a share in the club.

It's positive Hibs have moved a good number of under achievers out and much as our squad size looks more sensible numbers wise, the quality is miles short to get to Foley's target of achieving regular group stage European football.

I hope and expect we move out another 7 or 8. With a similar number, mainly from Black Knights clubs, coming in of experience and from a level of proven quality.

I think it'll be towards the end of the window that we add players that would usually be out our budget. That is when clubs and players are desperate to move on after they haven't quite found a club at the level they want. Unless there are players actually within the group on a development path that we can sign for example Bevan.

I can't see us taking in 7 or 8 players from Lorient and Bournemouth though.

[Tyler Durden]

It’s not just moot, it’s false - there were numerous games where our midfield were overrun, outplayed and I’ll add outfought as well.

Like when? The odd game against St Mirren I'd say. I'm not counting the Aberdeen game when the players downed tools.

Certainly didn't lose the midfield in any derbies. Most of the games we lost were due to rank bad defending or losing goals playing out from the back.

[GreenCastle]

I think it'll be towards the end of the window that we add players that would usually be out our budget. That is when clubs and players are desperate to move on after they haven't quite found a club at the level they want. Unless there are players actually within the group on a development path that we can sign for example Bevan.

I can't see us taking in 7 or 8 players from Lorient and Bournemouth though.

We do have 4 league games in August..before transfer window closes.

St Mirren away
Celtic home
Dundee home
Killie away

12 points available - realistically 9 plus anything from Celtic.

Important games against all teams who all finished above us in league last year.

Hopefully we will add more sooner rather than later - but I’m fully aware some late deals may become available who weren't before.

[JohnM1875]

We do have 4 league games in August..before transfer window closes.

St Mirren away
Celtic home
Dundee home
Killie away

12 points available - realistically 9 plus anything from Celtic.

Important games against all teams who all finished above us in league last year.

Absolutely. We really need to have everyone in and up to speed for the first game of the league season. Doesn’t really leave too much time.

[Fergus52]

It’s not just moot, it’s false - there were numerous games where our midfield were overrun, outplayed and I’ll add outfought as well.

Seen you posting opta stats on another thread - according to their zone of control metric, which ranks each area of the pitch based on the average amount of touches there compared to the opposition - we had the 4th best control of the middle third out of all teams in the league, behind only Celtic, Rangers and Hearts.

[GreenCastle]

Seen you posting opta stats on another thread - according to their zone of control metric, which ranks each area of the pitch based on the average amount of touches there compared to the opposition - we had the 4th best control of the middle third out of all teams in the league, behind only Celtic, Rangers and Hearts.

Having the ball centrally and doing nothing with it doesn’t really show up much success in results.

Even when losing we could keep the ball there with lots of passing but no end product.

The Rangers home game last season was a prime example of gaps in central midfield and players running through very easily.

There were numerous other games where we struggled to break attacks or follow runners and teams punished us.

[Fergus52]

Having the ball centrally and doing nothing with it doesn’t really show up much success in results.

Even when losing we could keep the ball there with lots of passing but no end product.

The Rangers home game last season was a prime example of gaps in central midfield and players running through very easily.

There were numerous other games where we struggled to break attacks or follow runners and teams punished us.

controlling the ball in midfield and not always doing much with it is still miles away from being "outplayed and overrun" there

[superfurryhibby]

controlling the ball in midfield and not always doing much with it is still miles away from being "outplayed and overrun" there

Whatever way you wish to paint it, our central midfield was poor and has been for a good number of years now. It needs to be better and we need to sign at least one player who will make a difference there.

[The Modfather]

Seen you posting opta stats on another thread - according to their zone of control metric, which ranks each area of the pitch based on the average amount of touches there compared to the opposition - we had the 4th best control of the middle third out of all teams in the league, behind only Celtic, Rangers and Hearts.

Does touches in the midfield equate to control? For example, we had lots of touches and possession when teams were happy to sit deep and let us slowly move the ball harmlessly sideways and back at the halfway line. Does opta class touches as black and white or is there a split between progressive touches and passes and passive touches and passes?

Take the 3-0 defeat to St Mirren in February. We had 61% possession, 496 passes to 314. 76% completed passing to 65% (granted none of that is broken down solely by the middle third). I’d bet all manner of stats point to us controlling the midfield that day but I doubt anyone who seen the game would argue we won the midfield.

[mikey1875]

We do have 4 league games in August..before transfer window closes.

St Mirren away
Celtic home
Dundee home
Killie away

12 points available - realistically 9 plus anything from Celtic.

Important games against all teams who all finished above us in league last year.

Hopefully we will add more sooner rather than later - but I’m fully aware some late deals may become available who weren't before.


No way we will get anywhere near 9 points from these 4 games.

[flash]

No way we will get anywhere near 9 points from these 4 games.

That's the spirit.

[JimBHibees]

No way we will get anywhere near 9 points from these 4 games.

Your right i was thinking ten 😊

[CapitalGreen]

Like when? The odd game against St Mirren I'd say. I'm not counting the Aberdeen game when the players downed tools.

Certainly didn't lose the midfield in any derbies. Most of the games we lost were due to rank bad defending or losing goals playing out from the back.

We very much lost the midfield in the first derby at Tynecastle.

Off the top of my head,

- Last 3 league games of LJ’s reign
- 2nd half v Kilmarnock in Monty’s first game.
- St Johnstone away in December
- Motherwell at home at New Year
- Kilmarnock away until they had a man sent off
- The St Mirren debacle
- Up at Ross County when we allowed Connor f*****g Randall to run the show
- Aberdeen but apparently we are not allowed to count players downing tools

[Tyler Durden]

Whatever way you wish to paint it, our central midfield was poor and has been for a good number of years now. It needs to be better and we need to sign at least one player who will make a difference there.

I don't want to derail the thread with a forensic analysis on the midfield. My point was mainly that we do have players who can tackle and IMO do a good job. The main gap for me is a playmaker type, absolutely.

But other teams weren't better cos they had better individuals than Joe Newell, Amos or NMW IMO. Get a decent defence and a coach who sets the team up well and all of these guys (plus maybe Levitt) can make a good contribution.

Getting rid of Montgomery is a massive help in improving our midfield right away.

[Hibernian Verse]

Absolutely. We really need to have everyone in and up to speed for the first game of the league season. Doesn’t really leave too much time.

There is no chance that we will have every single player in for the first league game of the season John, just trying to ease your expectations...:wink:

Players that are better than what we have on 1st August will become available and we will (hopefully) take the option to buy or loan them in.

[CapitalGreen]

Does touches in the midfield equate to control? For example, we had lots of touches and possession when teams were happy to sit deep and let us slowly move the ball harmlessly sideways and back at the halfway line. Does opta class touches as black and white or is there a split between progressive touches and passes and passive touches and passes?

Take the 3-0 defeat to St Mirren in February. We had 61% possession, 496 passes to 314. 76% completed passing to 65% (granted none of that is broken down solely by the middle third). I’d bet all manner of stats point to us controlling the midfield that day but I doubt anyone who seen the game would argue we won the midfield.

Middle 3rd passes:
Hibs 243 - 169 St Mirren

Result:
Hibs 0 - 3 St Mirren

[Tyler Durden]

We very much lost the midfield in the first derby at Tynecastle.

Off the top of my head,

- Last 3 league games of LJ’s reign
- 2nd half v Kilmarnock in Monty’s first game.
- St Johnstone away in December
- Motherwell at home at New Year
- Kilmarnock away until they had a man sent off
- The St Mirren debacle
- Up at Ross County when we allowed Connor f*****g Randall to run the show
- Aberdeen but apparently we are not allowed to count players downing tools

Mainly you're referring to periods within a game. Will agree to disagree

When we beat Aberdeen 6-0, I didn't then think that a midfield of Jeggo, Newell and Campbell was automatically better than Ramadani, Clarkson and Shinnie. It was a one off game with extenuating circumstances.

[Tyler Durden]

Having the ball centrally and doing nothing with it doesn’t really show up much success in results.

Even when losing we could keep the ball there with lots of passing but no end product.

The Rangers home game last season was a prime example of gaps in central midfield and players running through very easily.

There were numerous other games where we struggled to break attacks or follow runners and teams punished us.

The Rangers home game was due to the coach and his stupidity with only 2 in central midfield. Not the fault of the individuals.

When we went to 3 in midfield for subsequent games we were much more competitive

[J-C]

Middle 3rd passes:
Hibs 243 - 169 St Mirren

Result:
Hibs 0 - 3 St Mirren

Are these sideways and back passes, how many were forward attacking passes, got to have context. I'd expect Man to out pass most teams but it's what they do that's important.

[bordergreen]

NMW was 21 when he signed in January and put in some really good performances, not a single chance he's going anywhere, thankfully

Agree. His range of passing toward the end of the season also looked much better. I hope he will be a key player for us this season.

[Since452]

I'm quite interested to see how NMW and Amos do with a full pre season behind them. Could be like two new signings, especially in Amos's case.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Just shows you how mad football is in the epl, Brentford paying players 75k plus a week , not that long ago they were a two bob outfit unreal

their owner was looking for new investment a few months back, not surprised if they were intending paying out salaries like that, i think Archie is a real talent though if they play him in his natural position, 17 year old for most of last season and i think he only played in his natural position a couple of times


Didn't it fall through as they couldn't agree a payment structure?

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now you mention it i think it was indeed something to do with how Brentford were wanting to pay, Leeds need the money and were wanting it up front, in steps Spurs with £40m for Archie Gray and Leeds gave them £10m back for the permanent signing of Joe Rodon from Spurs.

[EGL2000]

Celtic back in for Idah. Feel that's a bit of a waste of money for them personally will prob cost 7-10mil. All for them wasting it all though!

[easty]

Celtic back in for Idah. Feel that's a bit of a waste of money for them personally will prob cost 7-10mil. All for them wasting it all though!

If Celtc pay £7m to sign him permanently then they're off their heids. There's nae way that's value for money.

Shankland would score far more, and cost far less.

[Donegal Hibby]

I was passing the time and looking at midfielders playing in England and noticed this one had played in Scotland before . Anyone remember him ? Davis Keillor-Dunn , 26 year old AM .

Seems to have had a good season in league 2 with Mansfield scoring 22 goals with 10 assists , think his contract is up in 2025.

https://youtu.be/kaomdWTZUjQ?si=sg1S499rMXbwKR12

[04Sauzee]

I was passing the time and looking at midfielders playing in England and noticed this one had played in Scotland before . Anyone remember him ? Davis Keillor-Dunn , 26 year old AM .

Seems to have had a good season in league 2 with Mansfield scoring 22 goals with 10 assists , think his contract is up in 2025.

https://youtu.be/kaomdWTZUjQ?si=sg1S499rMXbwKR12

He's been away for years looking at Wiki and I could have sworn he played against us last season 🤣 how time flies.

[itslegaltender]

Swansea defender Nathan Wood, 22, is to have a medical at [/FONT][/COLOR]Southampton after the clubs agreed a £5m fee. (Football Insider)

From the limited time he was with us, he didnt look like a 5 million pound player!
(https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-nathan-wood-begins-southampton-medical-after-swansea-accept-bid/)

[Willis1875]

Swansea defender Nathan Wood, 22, is to have a medical at [/FONT][/COLOR]Southampton after the clubs agreed a £5m fee. (Football Insider)

From the limited time he was with us, he didnt look like a 5 million pound player!
(https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-nathan-wood-begins-southampton-medical-after-swansea-accept-bid/)

He played one game for us

[Springbank]

He played one game for us

Yes but that was because he couldn't pass a ball!

He was on the books a while and looked shambolic

Poor attitude

[AlbertK86]

I agree with the playmaker shout but not sure about some others here.

There aren't many left footed wingers who play on the left these days. Myziane's goals mainly came as a left winger with a right foot.

We have NMW and Amos who can tackle and will be the base of the midfield.

If Amos stays fit I think it will be him and Newell as the starters as it stands.

Hopefully McCowan in there in front of them

NMW plenty energy but bc still some developing to do


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[easty]

If Amos stays fit I think it will be him and Newell as the starters as it stands.

Hopefully McCowan in there in front of them

NMW plenty energy but bc still some developing to do


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I really hope we’re not banking on Amos staying fit.

[Greenworld]

I really hope we’re not banking on Amos staying fit.Lol that's the spirit

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[Hibees1973]

No way we will get anywhere near 9 points from these 4 games.

Indeed.

With the responses you've have had seem some have short memories or suffering from delusion already.

[MrRobot]

Yes but that was because he couldn't pass a ball!

He was on the books a while and looked shambolic

Poor attitude

Did he really have a poor attitude? :dunno:

I remember him playing really poorly and then not getting another look in after that and departing before his loan ended i think. Nothing suggested he had a poor attitude that i recall.

[AlbertK86]

I don't want to derail the thread with a forensic analysis on the midfield. My point was mainly that we do have players who can tackle and IMO do a good job. The main gap for me is a playmaker type, absolutely.

But other teams weren't better cos they had better individuals than Joe Newell, Amos or NMW IMO. Get a decent defence and a coach who sets the team up well and all of these guys (plus maybe Levitt) can make a good contribution.

Getting rid of Montgomery is a massive help in improving our midfield right away.

Well said mate


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[Stuart93]

Lol that's the spirit

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A very valid point. His history of injuries suggests we might not get the full season out of him

[04Sauzee]

Yes but that was because he couldn't pass a ball!

He was on the books a while and looked shambolic

Poor attitude

I can't remember his attitude being questioned, was this public knowledge? I'm assuming his attitude has changed to get the moves he has?

[AlbertK86]

I really hope we’re not banking on Amos staying fit.

I’m not that’s why I said if he stays fit.

I’m hopeful he does as I think he could turn out to be the best of our current midfielders


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[04Sauzee]

A very valid point. His history of injuries suggests we might not get the full season out of him

What was his injury record like with QPR 22/23 season , genuine question. I know he had a muscle injury last season with Hibs, think he could have played more than he did towards the end of the season but we were managing him carefully.

Also he had a cruciate 20/21 season, just trying to establish what his injury history has been like.

[K-Zazu]

What was his injury record like with QPR 22/23 season , genuine question. I know he had a muscle injury last season with Hibs, think he could have played more than he did towards the end of the season but we were managing him carefully.

Also he had a cruciate 20/21 season, just trying to establish what his injury history has been like.

2 different cruciate injuries in different seasons I think.

[1875Sean]

Looking at the bench we badly lack forward players, can only hope we look at bringing in a couple of strikers and a winger or 2 along with a left back and another centre back.

[McD]

Yes but that was because he couldn't pass a ball!

He was on the books a while and looked shambolic

Poor attitude



A while? He was here for about 3 months


From wikipedia:
On 31 August 2021, Wood moved north of the border to join Scottish Premiership club Hibernian on a season-long loan deal.[13] On 16 October 2021, Wood made his debut for Hibernian, where he played the full game in a 3–0 loss against Dundee United.[14] On 25 November 2021, it was announced that Wood had returned to parent club Middlesbrough for the remainder of his loan spell until January 2022, having only featured once for Hibs.[15]

[Springbank]

Did he really have a poor attitude? :dunno:

I remember him playing really poorly and then not getting another look in after that and departing before his loan ended i think. Nothing suggested he had a poor attitude that i recall.

100% stinking attitude

He was horrific v Dundee Utd

Then whenever he was named as sub he was in full sulk

Jogging while everyone else sprinted in the warm Ups
Touch of an elephant in the Rondos
That only comes with poor ability or attitude
And you presume (with a £5m bid) it's not ability

All I'll say is you could see why managers wouldn't pick him if that was how he trained

[Springbank]

A while? He was here for about 3 months


From wikipedia:
On 31 August 2021, Wood moved north of the border to join Scottish Premiership club Hibernian on a season-long loan deal.[13] On 16 October 2021, Wood made his debut for Hibernian, where he played the full game in a 3–0 loss against Dundee United.[14] On 25 November 2021, it was announced that Wood had returned to parent club Middlesbrough for the remainder of his loan spell until January 2022, having only featured once for Hibs.[15]

We don't play 1 gane every 3 months, unless I'm mistaken

He was here long enough to play games if his ability / fitness / attitude were right

He was here a while, yes, for a guy who played 1 game then stank the place out

[eastmainsmsh]

Bradley Dack was available ex Blackburn and Sunderland decent player

[Rumble de Thump]

We don't play 1 gane every 3 months, unless I'm mistaken

He was here long enough to play games if his ability / fitness / attitude were right

He was here a while, yes, for a guy who played 1 game then stank the place out

He was a 19-year-old signed on loan as backup. His opportunities were limited so the loan deal was cut short.

[PHeffernan]

Bradley Dack was available ex Blackburn and Sunderland decent player

Has only played more than 17 times in a season once in the last 4 due to injury issues.
No touchie, touchie.

[JimBHibees]

Mainly you're referring to periods within a game. Will agree to disagree

When we beat Aberdeen 6-0, I didn't then think that a midfield of Jeggo, Newell and Campbell was automatically better than Ramadani, Clarkson and Shinnie. It was a one off game with extenuating circumstances.

No doubt Hibs players downed tools in that game was a shameful performance

[flash]

Indeed.

With the responses you've have had seem some have short memories or suffering from delusion already.

Maybe support their team as am sure you do.

Just not convinced that team is Hibs.

[CapitalGreen]

We don't play 1 gane every 3 months, unless I'm mistaken

He was here long enough to play games if his ability / fitness / attitude were right

He was here a while, yes, for a guy who played 1 game then stank the place out

We had the tightest defence outwith the old firm - without injuries, who was he going to play ahead of even if his attitude was perfect?

[babahibs]

indeed.

With the responses you've have had seem some have short memories or suffering from delusion already.

lol

[easty]

Lol that's the spirit

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We didn’t get a replacement in for Magennis a couple of years back, then unsurprisingly he was out injured constantly and we had no decent player to fall back on.

If we’re banking on Amos being fit and a regular starter, we’re doing it wrong again.

[EGL2000]

Bradley Dack was available ex Blackburn and Sunderland decent player

Great player would love him here but highly doubt it will most likely stay in the championship.

[Alex Trager]

He’ll go in January when he’s in the bargain bin.

Na, that’s not good enough 😂

He has to leave yesterday.

They will keep him in Jan because he will take them to third again and be worth more than any club is willing to pay for him.

[.Sean.]

Bradley Dack was available ex Blackburn and Sunderland decent player
He was brilliant at Blackburn, yes please

[Cocaine&Caviar]

State of play as I see it:

GK: Bursik (L) / Boruc

RCB: O'Hora / Megwa
CB: Marvin / Bevan (L)
LCB: TBC / Rocky

RWB: Cadden / Miller
CM: Moriah-Welsh / Campbell
DM: TBC / Amos
CM: Newell / Levitt
LWB: Obita / TBC

ST: TBC / McKirdy
ST: Vente / Boyle

Out the door:
- Wollacott
- Youan
- JDH
- Henderson
- Kenneh
- Harbottle
- Delferriere
- Jair Tavares

Out on loan/around the squad:
- Whittaker
- Molotnikov
- O'Connor
- McAllister
- Landers

5 in, 8 out.

In an ideal world, a Kuchyrevich like striker in, Swindon come in for McKirdy, and a left footed CB - well versed in playing in a 3.

[J-C]

State of play as I see it:

GK: Bursik (L) / Boruc

RCB: O'Hora / Megwa
CB: Marvin / Bevan (L)
LCB: TBC / Rocky

RWB: Cadden / Miller
CM: Moriah-Welsh / Campbell
DM: TBC / Amos
CM: Newell / Levitt
LWB: Obita / TBC

ST: TBC / McKirdy
ST: Vente / Boyle

Out the door:
- Wollacott
- Youan
- JDH
- Henderson
- Kenneh
- Harbottle
- Delferriere
- Jair Tavares

Out on loan/around the squad:
- Whittaker
- Molotnikov
- O'Connor
- McAllister
- Landers

5 in, 8 out.

In an ideal world, a Kuchyrevich like striker in, Swindon come in for McKirdy, and a left footed CB - well versed in playing in a 3.

You're wanting all these CB's when he's been playing 433.

[nonshinyfinish]

You're wanting all these CB's when he's been playing 433.

Did Gray not say that it would be flexible?

I wouldn't make any great assumptions based on a couple of friendlies – the Edinburgh City game in particular seemed like finding whatever line-up just about made sense to give everyone a run out.

[Hibernian Verse]

You're wanting all these CB's when he's been playing 433.

It won't be a 4-3-3 all season. There will be times we need to play a 3-5-2, or 4-4-2, or 4-1-2-1-2 etc.

[CapitalGreen]

You're wanting all these CB's when he's been playing 433.

Has it perhaps only been a back 4 so far because we have so few options?

[Leitherhibs]

I think we have more than enough defenders to play 3-5-2 if that was his chosen system, fans seem to be lining the squad/team up in a back 3, but has SDG ever indicated he was likely to favour a back 3?

[04Sauzee]

I think we have more than enough defenders to play 3-5-2 if that was his chosen system, fans seem to be lining the squad/team up in a back 3, but has SDG ever indicated he was likely to favour a back 3?

I think some people are wondering about a back 3 as we we have signed 2 new CB's, one played comfortably as a RCB in a back 3 and the other played often as a CB in a back 3 , both are right footed. That in itself isn't a huge problem of they are good enough but how often were fans calling for a left sided CB last season. I would imagine a CB or 2 could still go out the door and we may still recruit 1

[Iain G]

I think we have more than enough defenders to play 3-5-2 if that was his chosen system, fans seem to be lining the squad/team up in a back 3, but has SDG ever indicated he was likely to favour a back 3?

We have: Marv, Warren, Rocky, Hardbottle, Obita, Kenneth, Megwa and Miller who could all be options to play in a back 3. Even with a few outs and ins there we still have enough bodies.

Left back, midfield, wide player and a forward or two next please 😁

[Iain G]

I think some people are wondering about a back 3 as we we have signed 2 new CB's, one played comfortably as a RCB in a back 3 and the other played often as a CB in a back 3 , both are right footed. That in itself isn't a huge problem of they are good enough but how often were fans calling for a left sided CB last season. I would imagine a CB or 2 could still go out the door and we may still recruit 1

This is all nonsense! If Pep Southgate doesn't need any fit left footed left backs in his all conquering England team, piddly little Hibs don't need no left sided centre backs!

[J-C]

It won't be a 4-3-3 all season. There will be times we need to play a 3-5-2, or 4-4-2, or 4-1-2-1-2 etc.

I still wouldn't be looking at having 6 CH's on the books as the poster was suggesting, we'll go with 4 and if we go 3 at the back, it'll be 3 from 4.

[04Sauzee]

Ross County FC are delighted to confirm the signing of Jack Hamilton on a 1-year deal.

Jack is a 30-year old goalkeeper who joins us following a spell at Livingston. He has also previously played for Greenock Morton, Dundee and Heart of Midlothian.

Welcome to the club, Jack!

[Edinburgh Green]

Ross County FC are delighted to confirm the signing of Jack Hamilton on a 1-year deal.

Jack is a 30-year old goalkeeper who joins us following a spell at Livingston. He has also previously played for Greenock Morton, Dundee and Heart of Midlothian.

Welcome to the club, Jack!

A truly horrific keeper. Always baffles me when another club signs him.

[04Sauzee]

A truly horrific keeper. Always baffles me when another club signs him.

Incredible, I wonder if he'll be No 1

[JammyDoidger]

That big felly from Hungary is a free agent, Martin Adam, he's got a really good goalscoring record, I know he's a bit of a joke figure but he might be exactly what we need and a good foil for vente, get him in!

[SHODAN]

A truly horrific keeper. Always baffles me when another club signs him.

Gave me one of my favourite derby memories. Thanks Jack!

[04Sauzee]

That big felly from Hungary is a free agent, Martin Adam, he's got a really good goalscoring record, I know he's a bit of a joke figure but he might be exactly what we need and a good foil for vente, get him in!

He's definitely a big lad

[04Sauzee]

Michael Dacosta Gonzalez who's a young Bournemouth striker looks like he's going on loan to Crawley Town.

[Brightside]

I think some people are wondering about a back 3 as we we have signed 2 new CB's, one played comfortably as a RCB in a back 3 and the other played often as a CB in a back 3 , both are right footed. That in itself isn't a huge problem of they are good enough but how often were fans calling for a left sided CB last season. I would imagine a CB or 2 could still go out the door and we may still recruit 1

Going with a back 3 without a left footer would make me very unhappy. Its bad enough with in a 2.

[Brightside]

Michael Dacosta Gonzalez who's a young Bournemouth striker looks like he's going on loan to Crawley Town.

I thought we would get him tbh. Can play on both wings and upfront. The have another young striker too. Hopefully thats a possible.

[Stuart93]

A truly horrific keeper. Always baffles me when another club signs him.

I remember watching him when he was a young laddie and he was throwing them in at that age as well

Still can’t believe he made it

[Springbank]

That big felly from Hungary is a free agent, Martin Adam, he's got a really good goalscoring record, I know he's a bit of a joke figure but he might be exactly what we need and a good foil for vente, get him in!

The new Grant Holt!

[tonyrougier123]

That big felly from Hungary is a free agent, Martin Adam, he's got a really good goalscoring record, I know he's a bit of a joke figure but he might be exactly what we need and a good foil for vente, get him in!

Type of physicality we could do with. Man’s huge!

[J-C]

Going with a back 3 without a left footer would make me very unhappy. Its bad enough with in a 2.

Never did Liverpool any harm this past few seasons, good CH's can play either side.

[blackpoolhibs]

Never did Liverpool any harm this past few seasons, good CH's can play either side.

Top quality players can adapt, down at Hibs level it does become more of a problem with players not that comfortable on their "wrong" side.

A split second delay does make a difference when getting the ball under control when being closed down.

Players not naturally left footed take an extra touch, a second more to control things and assess the situation more than someone who's left footed.

We've seen the problems we've had shoehorning players into positions they are not completely comfortable in, i agree with brightside and would like us to sign a left sided central defender.

[Brightside]

Never did Liverpool any harm this past few seasons, good CH's can play either side.

VVD is pretty much 2 footed. Huge difference in level - half the players out our level struggle enough with their good foot.

[number9dream]

Top quality players can adapt, down at Hibs level it does become more of a problem with players not that comfortable on their "wrong" side.

A split second delay does make a difference when getting the ball under control when being closed down.

Players not naturally left footed take an extra touch, a second more to control things and assess the situation more than someone who's left footed.

We've seen the problems we've had shoehorning players into positions they are not completely comfortable in, i agree with brightside and would like us to sign a left sided central defender.

A Nic Gunnarsson type who can cover left-back as well would be very handy.
We need to shift some of the righties at the back.

[TrinityHFC]

VVD is pretty much 2 footed. Huge difference in level - half the players out our level struggle enough with their good foot.

Huge difference in level of players they are playing against too.

[Dmas]

Never did Liverpool any harm this past few seasons, good CH's can play either side.

Must be a a huge difference in successful teams with 2 right footed centre backs compared to this one left footed one right footed that’s become so important because Hanlons away, going to be another stick to beat the team with if we don’t improve defensively this year can feel it all ready

[CapitalGreen]

Must be a a huge difference in successful teams with 2 right footed centre backs compared to this one left footed one right footed that’s become so important because Hanlons away, going to be another stick to beat the team with if we don’t improve defensively this year can feel it all ready

We conceded more goals last season when we played a left footed centre back (Hanlon) than when we didn’t. The impact of a lack of a left footer is more on build up play/transition rather than defending.

[Dmas]

We conceded more goals last season when we played a left footed centre back (Hanlon) than when we didn’t. The impact of a lack of a left footer is more on build up play/transition rather than defending.

Rocky’s passing accuracy was 84% last year, maybe our issue is more on the players receiving those passes than what foot a centre half kicks with

[blackpoolhibs]

Rocky’s passing accuracy was 84% last year, maybe our issue is more on the players receiving those passes than what foot a centre half kicks with

Passing accuracy percentages are skewed in my opinion, i'm surprised Rocky's is not higher, our centre backs only really pass it amongst themselves the full backs or to Newell.

They rarely ping them hard into midfielders or forwards feet, apart from when they have been closed down after farting about for a minute or two amongst themselves at the back.

[CapitalGreen]

Rocky’s passing accuracy was 84% last year, maybe our issue is more on the players receiving those passes than what foot a centre half kicks with

Pass accuracy doesn’t really tell us anything as it only reflects the passes he attempted. If a right footed player is actively avoiding playing the ball out to the left or up the line on the left side this wouldn’t be captured by passing accuracy.

In a possession based team, when a centre back plays a long pass, it will typically be out-wide to the full back or winger on their side rather than into the centre of the field. Both Fish and Hanlon attempted ~50% more long passes per 90 than Rocky did last season.

[Dmas]

Pass accuracy doesn’t really tell us anything as it only reflects the passes he attempted. If a right footed player is actively avoiding playing the ball out to the left or up the line on the left side this wouldn’t be captured by passing accuracy.

In a possession based team, when a centre back plays a long pass, it will typically be out-wide to the full back or winger on their side rather than into the centre of the field. Both Fish and Hanlon attempted ~50% more long passes per 90 than Rocky did last season.

Long passes where almost outlawed under NM which also coincided with Rocky replacing PH, the balance of left foot and right foot wasn’t enough to keep PH his place under a possession based manager, I get for passing angles a left footer would be beneficial however a left footed centre half must be a rarity it’s definitely not worth getting hung up about, 2 solid centre halfs who can defend first and foremost should be all we are looking at

[CapitalGreen]

Long passes where almost outlawed under NM which also coincided with Rocky replacing PH, the balance of left foot and right foot wasn’t enough to keep PH his place under a possession based manager, I get for passing angles a left footer would be beneficial however a left footed centre half must be a rarity it’s definitely not worth getting hung up about, 2 solid centre halfs who can defend first and foremost should be all we are looking at

I’m not hung up about it, I’m simply explaining how a right footer at LCB can have a negative impact on build up/transition.

Did it impact this area for us last season? I suppose that will depend on your opinion on how good we were in transition last season.

[JammyDoidger]

The new Grant Holt!

That's exactly what crossed my mind, a younger grant holt! Imagine him coming on with 15-20 minutes to go, he would cause mayhem in the opponents box at this level!

[J-C]

Top quality players can adapt, down at Hibs level it does become more of a problem with players not that comfortable on their "wrong" side.

A split second delay does make a difference when getting the ball under control when being closed down.

Players not naturally left footed take an extra touch, a second more to control things and assess the situation more than someone who's left footed.

We've seen the problems we've had shoehorning players into positions they are not completely comfortable in, i agree with brightside and would like us to sign a left sided central defender.


VVD is pretty much 2 footed. Huge difference in level - half the players out our level struggle enough with their good foot.

I would love a good lefty at CH but they're a rare species, all we can do right now is get the best we can for the money we're spending.

[scoopyboy]

I still wouldn't be looking at having 6 CH's on the books as the poster was suggesting, we'll go with 4 and if we go 3 at the back, it'll be 3 from 4.

Can’t agree mate.

Pick three and the other one goes sub.

Central defenders are notorious for getting suspensions and injuries.

Let’s say one suspension and one injury and we can’t play 3, so we play 2 and have none in the bench.

Unworkable

[Dmas]

I’m not hung up about it, I’m simply explaining how a right footer at LCB can have a negative impact on build up/transition.

Did it impact this area for us last season? I suppose that will depend on your opinion on how good we were in transition last season.

I’m not meaning you specifically as being hung up on it just that this has been raised a few times since signing 2 right footed cbs.

I think we where poor in transition last year I don’t think it was 2 right footed CBs that caused this though theres was no improvement with Hanlon or when Obita played LCB our midfield is sideways or backwards there’s no one willing to take it and turn with it, links to midfield and attack non existent for long times during the season large gaps between CMs and forwards to easy for other teams to press high snuff us out

[PHeffernan]

Alfredo Morelos is available.
Could do a job.
:cb

[truehibernian]

Can’t agree mate.

Pick three and the other one goes sub.

Central defenders are notorious for getting suspensions and injuries.

Let’s say one suspension and one injury and we can’t play 3, so we play 2 and have none in the bench.

Unworkable

Another left back for both competition and versatility is importantly too - Obita did a good job covering at CH and young Megwa has been played on the right of a three. I’d only be adding one more CH to the ‘must have’ list.

[The Tubs]

Alfredo Morelos is available.
Could do a job.
:cb

The "friendly" against Watford would be interesting.

[davemcbain]

Alfredo Morelos is available.
Could do a job.
:cb

Scaring the seagulls?

[Iain G]

Alfredo Morelos is available.
Could do a job.
:cb

Can he play left centre back?

[PHeffernan]

The "friendly" against Watford would be interesting.


:agree:

[SHODAN]

Alfredo Morelos is available.
Could do a job.
:cb

Yes

[brianmc]

Alfredo Morelos is available.
Could do a job.
:cb

He could certainly fill out a hi Vis jacket - but would be be fit enough to walk up the stairs in sync with the other stewards?

Unlikely.

[PHeffernan]

He could certainly fill out a hi Vis jacket - but would be be fit enough to walk up the stairs in sync with the other stewards?

Unlikely.

He just hasn't tried a leg for years now.
Only 28, but just seems to be done.
We could get him on a pay as you weigh deal :wink:

[GreenCastle]

How many left footed players do we have in the squad?

[we are hibs]

Hibernian join race to sign Corrie Ndaba - with Kilmarnock still in the mix



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[JohnM1875]

Hibernian join race to sign Corrie Ndaba - with Kilmarnock still in the mix



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Can’t say I remember him for Killie last year. Interesting that he played LB for them but has mainly been a CB during his career.

Think he might want back to Killie though, played 37 times for them last season and probably wouldn’t be a guaranteed starter for us.

[B.H.F.C]

Hibernian join race to sign Corrie Ndaba - with Kilmarnock still in the mix



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Would make sense if we could get him. We need left sided options in defence and would make it easier for us to change system if we wanted to.

[SteveHFC]

Can’t say I remember him for Killie last year. Interesting that he played LB for them but has mainly been a CB during his career.

Think he might want back to Killie though, played 37 times for them last season and probably wouldn’t be a guaranteed starter for us.

Unless we’re planning to play Obita at left centre-back in a 3-5-2 formation.

[JohnM1875]

Unless we’re planning to play Obita at left centre-back in a 3-5-2 formation.

Would we not then just play Ndaba as the LCB and keep Obita LWB

[EVENTUALLY]

Can’t say I remember him for Killie last year. Interesting that he played LB for them but has mainly been a CB during his career.

Think he might want back to Killie though, played 37 times for them last season and probably wouldn’t be a guaranteed starter for us.

Was harshly sent off against us last season in the 2-2 draw at Rugby Park. Big guy who I think would be more suited to a centre back role.

[ElginHibbie]

Would make sense if we could get him. We need left sided options in defence and would make it easier for us to change system if we wanted to.

:agree:

Adding him in would make our defensive options look pretty good and a solid base to build on

[Col2]

Would we not then just play Ndaba as the LCB and keep Obita LWB

Possibly but I like the idea we are in for a versatile centre half / left fiullback.

I am convinced Rocky will move on for a fresh start. If so we are missing a left sided centre half and we know we need cover for obita as well.

[Unseen work]

Ndaba makes perfect sense

Good age and knows the league,

Left sided centre half that can play left back or left wing back

Provides cover at left back and and option for left of a three at the back, or pushing Obita to LCB and having him as left wing back

I’m all for it

[JohnM1875]

Possibly but I like the idea we are in for a versatile centre half / left fiullback.

I am convinced Rocky will move on for a fresh start. If so we are missing a left sided centre half and we know we need cover for obita as well.

Aw I like the idea of it as well. Plus, he's left footed so could play as LCB in a back four, Left sided in a three or LB or LWB.

Like that it would be another permanent deal as well and not a loan signing. Could be great business.

[Donegal Hibby]

Aw I like the idea of it as well. Plus, he's left footed so could play as LCB in a back four, Left sided in a three or LB or LWB.

Like that it would be another permanent deal as well and not a loan signing. Could be great business.

Watched this awhile ago , even though it's short I thought it was interesting ...
https://youtu.be/CyItIxX3xEg?si=xSPCpcepsB1c0CKC

[JohnM1875]

Watched this awhile ago , even though it's short I thought it was interesting ...
https://youtu.be/CyItIxX3xEg?si=xSPCpcepsB1c0CKC

Aye decent that.

Still trying to get my head around the second guys accent, no idea where he's from. Not that it matters!

[Forza Fred]

A Nic Gunnarsson type who can cover left-back as well would be very handy.
We need to shift some of the righties at the back.

Jacob Farrell

[Heisenberg]

Aw I like the idea of it as well. Plus, he's left footed so could play as LCB in a back four, Left sided in a three or LB or LWB.

Like that it would be another permanent deal as well and not a loan signing. Could be great business.

Certainly ticks a lot of boxes for what we need in the squad, Killie probably a safer footballing option in that he knows exactly what he’ll be getting but we’ll obviously offer him more money.

Seen Dundee fans elsewhere online saying we’ve offered Murray more cash so he’s coming here.

[JohnM1875]

Certainly ticks a lot of boxes for what we need in the squad, Killie probably a safer footballing option in that he knows exactly what he’ll be getting but we’ll obviously offer him more money.

Seen Dundee fans elsewhere online saying we’ve offered Murray more cash so he’s coming here.

No doubt that’ll be spun that we’re paying a 32 year old Simon Murray £7k a week by the jambos.

[JimBHibees]

Ndaba makes perfect sense

Good age and knows the league,

Left sided centre half that can play left back or left wing back

Provides cover at left back and and option for left of a three at the back, or pushing Obita to LCB and having him as left wing back

I’m all for it

Agree provides better balance being left footed

[Aldo]

No doubt that’ll be spun that we’re paying a 32 year old Simon Murray £7k a week by the jambos.

They know more about our finances than our accountant and owners do.

[CapitalGreen]

No doubt that’ll be spun that we’re paying a 32 year old Simon Murray £7k a week by the jambos.

I doubt Hearts will be a giving much thought to us signing a 32 year Simon Murray.

[McGruber]

Hibernian join race to sign Corrie Ndaba - with Kilmarnock still in the mix



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Like the sound of this one. Old saying that you build from the back. Gray & Malky know the score

[IanM]

Good to see Gray saying we’re focusing in on a striker.. marquee signing could also still happen

[Since452]

Got to say i'm very encouraged by our business so far and the players we're supposedly interested in. Are we finally getting this right?

[chippy]

Would make sense if we could get him. We need left sided options in defence and would make it easier for us to change system if we wanted to.

Yep and change system during games

[04Sauzee]

Watched this awhile ago , even though it's short I thought it was interesting ...
https://youtu.be/CyItIxX3xEg?si=xSPCpcepsB1c0CKC

Stopped listening at injuries 🤪

Seriously though sounds like he'd be a good addition to the squad.

[Iain G]

Got to say i'm very encouraged by our business so far and the players we're supposedly interested in. Are we finally getting this right?

Creating a solid base to the team in defence and midfield, then sprinkle in some maverick, creative magic from middle to front and find a goalscorer.

Easy 😁

[CapitalGreen]

Creating a solid base to the team in defence and midfield, then sprinkle in some maverick, creative magic from middle to front and find a goalscorer.

Easy 😁

New defenders are welcome and much needed but it’s definitely not enough. We had the tightest defence outwith the Old Firm in 21/22 but still finished 8th as our midfield and attack were a shambles. DG needs to do what his 6 predecessors failed to do and sort out the midfield.

[Since452]

New defenders are welcome and much needed but it’s definitely not enough. We had the tightest defence outwith the Old Firm in 21/22 but still finished 8th as our midfield and attack were a shambles. DG needs to do what his 6 predecessors failed to do and sort out the midfield.

I think a fit Amos with a full pre season behind him will go a long way towards that. The energy of NMW too now he's settled in a bit.

[CapitalGreen]

I think a fit Amos with a full pre season behind him will go a long way towards that. The energy of NMW too now he's settled in a bit.

I hope so, from the little I’ve seen with us and from before he signed Amos appears to be a level above anything else we have - I hope he can stay fit. I like NMW attitude and energy but he can’t tackle, we really need someone to sit behind our current midfielders doing the dirty work - a Gogic/Jeggo/Kenneh but with much more quality - if we were to make a marquee signing that’s where I would be looking to make it.

[Callum_62]

Good to see Gray saying we’re focusing in on a striker.. marquee signing could also still happenWhere did he say this?

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[Wheat Hound]

Where did he say this?

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-reveals-ambitious-plans-homegrown-hero-striker-admission-4691359

[04Sauzee]

Scott Allan signs for Kelty Hearts.

[04Sauzee]

Charlie Telfer to Ross County

[Callum_62]

Dan Phillips signs for Stevenage

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[04Sauzee]

Airdrie sign 25 year old GK Kieran Wright on loan from Rangers. That's him and Murray Johnson on loan at Airdrie

[Hibernian Verse]

Dan Phillips signs for Stevenage

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Surely not? I read on here that he would be a brilliant signing for us on at least 2 ocassions :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

Airdrie sign 25 year old GK Kieran Wright on loan from Rangers. That's him and Murray Johnson on loan at Airdrie

He’s been at Rangers for 9 years, I don’t think I’ve heard of him
I hope it doesn’t stop Murray racking up a lot of appearances

[04Sauzee]

Ryan McGowan signs for Livi

[andrew70]

He’s been at Rangers for 9 years, I don’t think I’ve heard of him
I hope it doesn’t stop Murray racking up a lot of appearances

Sure he was the keeper who went on an emergency loan to Livi last term.

Played against us on the final day.

[Haymaker]

More signings please. I'm not :hyper enough.

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[Billy Whizz]

Sure he was the keeper who went on an emergency loan to Livi last term.

Played against us on the final day.

There you go, obviously must have missed him
Did he come on for the injured Livvi keeper

[andrew70]

There you go, obviously must have missed him
Did he come on for the injured Livvi keeper

IIRC it was him who replaced Shamal George.

[andrew70]

Greg Docherty signs for Charlton Athletic.

[Lago]

Scott Allan signs for Kelty Hearts.
Playing and coaching

[keep the faith]

Scott Allan signs for Kelty Hearts.

Will be playing against us in a few weeks. Hope we give him a great reception.

[Iain G]

Will be playing against us in a few weeks. Hope we give him a great reception.

I hope we kick him up and down the pitch all day and don't give him any time on the ball.

Fed up with all this softy sentimental nonsense.

[keep the faith]

I hope we kick him up and down the pitch all day and don't give him any time on the ball

And I hope we also give him a great reception from the crowd. Class act.

[Iain G]

And I hope we also give him a great reception from the crowd. Class act.

Our crowd will probably give him more support than our players 🤣

[Gaffer1875]

No intel but I’ve got a funny feeling we may make a move for Jason Cummings this window.


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[andrew70]

No intel but I’ve got a funny feeling we may make a move for Jason Cummings this window.


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Think this was a nap if Montgomery had stayed.

Cummings isn’t completely settled in India but the money is great.

I don’t know if any more talks have taken place since Montgomery left but it was certainly explored beforehand.

[04Sauzee]

No intel but I’ve got a funny feeling we may make a move for Jason Cummings this window.


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He's contracted until 2026, not sure how much his club paid for him but I'd imagine it wouldn't be a cheap deal with transfer fee and wages?

[JohnM1875]

Think this was a nap if Montgomery had stayed.

Cummings isn’t completely settled in India but the money is great.

I don’t know if any more talks have taken place since Montgomery left but it was certainly explored beforehand.

Don't think there's a single (realistic) re-signing that would excite me more. If it's possible I hope we make it happen

[flash]

Don't think there's a single (realistic) re-signing that would excite me more. If it's possible I hope we make it happen

More than Maolida?

[JohnM1875]

More than Maolida?

Don't think that's realistic, but would prefer Maolida aye

[flash]

Don't think that's realistic, but would prefer Maolida aye

It's not impossible so you never know.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I hope we kick him up and down the pitch all day and don't give him any time on the ball.

Fed up with all this softy sentimental nonsense.

Wtf? 😞

[Iain G]

Wtf? 😞

Not a serious post 😁

[Hibernian Verse]

Not a serious post 😁

I just assumed you’d been on the bevvy all day 😂

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Not a serious post 😁

Good mate, I'm a tad inebriated so never spotted that. 🍻

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I just assumed you’d been on the bevvy all day 😂

Must be me 🤭

[Mcbizz1998]

Don't think there's a single (realistic) re-signing that would excite me more. If it's possible I hope we make it happen

Agree. I would be absolutely delighted to have him back. Will bring character to the squad and loves to score against hearts.

[CapitalGreen]

Don't think that's realistic, but would prefer Maolida aye

https://www.berliner-kurier.de/hertha/hertha-bsc-kanga-und-maolida-wieder-da-und-gleich-wieder-weg-li.2232002


”It looks more complicated with Maolida (contract until 2025). The Frenchman was loaned to the Scottish first division club Hibernian FC from Edinburgh for half a year in January, scored eleven times there in 20 games. But Maolida did not want to stay with the Scots, in addition, the club is also stingy with the salaries...”

Our reputation has gone worldwide

[Since452]

Think this was a nap if Montgomery had stayed.

Cummings isn’t completely settled in India but the money is great.

I don’t know if any more talks have taken place since Montgomery left but it was certainly explored beforehand.

We'd have ended up in the Championship if Montgomery hadn't been punted. Cummings would be a terrible signing.

[04Sauzee]

Wonder if we will get any more bodies in/out prior to the cup game.

[Tambo]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the Youan situation, has gone very quiet and all though I'd would have expected SDG to bring him over to the Netherlands and be involved, one silly tackle could potentially cost him a move.

Does anyone think he will stay? Would be a key player for us for goals and assists.

[TheGog]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the Youan situation, has gone very quiet and all though I'd would have expected SDG to bring him over to the Netherlands and be involved, one silly tackle could potentially cost him a move.

Does anyone think he will stay? Would be a key player for us for goals and assists.

For the money on offer, I would sell youan. Think we can build a utilise 2.5/3m on better players than youan. I’d like him to start the season with a bang, but if we get offered in the region of 2.5m we can’t turn that down.

[superfurryhibby]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the Youan situation, has gone very quiet and all though I'd would have expected SDG to bring him over to the Netherlands and be involved, one silly tackle could potentially cost him a move.

Does anyone think he will stay? Would be a key player for us for goals and assists.

I want YOuan to stay. The pattern of selling players and not replacing them with a similar level in terms of quality would be my concern.

People need to understand that the mooted fee will not be provided up front. It's not like Youan goes and then we suddenly have 2-3 million in the bank.

If we used the money to sign the likes of Danny Armstrong and Luke McCowan, that would be good business. Somehow, I have the feeling that we wouldn't.

[CallumLaidlaw]

People need to understand that the mooted fee will not be provided up front. It's not like Youan goes and then we suddenly have 2-3 million in the bank.



Same goes for any transfer fee we pay tho.


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