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Cooshed Kid
31-08-2024, 10:51 AM
And you know, "One nil to the Arsenal" was a proud boast for their fans. They didn't do too badly with that score.

Unseen work
31-08-2024, 10:51 AM
My point is it's not just Bournemouth in this set-up though.

Totally agree about not getting a Premier League standard player every window, but I don't think it's unrealistic to expect a player to improve us each window? That doesn't have to be a Premier League standard of player.

I know what you mean. I think Bournemouths squad at the moment though is either one or the other, as in far too good for Hibs or nowhere near good enough.

Even NMW, a lot of fans don’t like him and he’s ahead in his development than the other players at Bournemouth.

Hopefully next season we see more as I think they have quite a few out on loan this season to league1/2 teams

SHODAN
31-08-2024, 10:54 AM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Smith, Boruc

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, N. Cadden, Megwa
LB: Obita

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Levitt, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Molotnikov, Campbell

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett, N. Cadden
ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy

Greenworld
31-08-2024, 10:55 AM
They paid £6 mil to by a % of the club.

Bournemouth aren't the only club in our multi-club model though? And from a recruitment point of view, if the better players aren't going to come to play in Scotland then what's the point in us being involved? Wasn't this supposed to take us to the next level player wise? How can that be the case if they don't want to play in this league?A very simple remedy John ,the Gordon's buy the shares back . It's the only way out at the moment as rules don't let the knights buy out the Gordon's

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Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 10:56 AM
Wonderful! But being hard to beat is more important to me than playing flash football and being soft at the back. I've seen too much of that for my liking. I appreciate your taste for the finer things but I'm sick of losing or expecting to lose most weeks. Maybe there's room for both possibilities within this season but SDG has stated his priority and I'm in favour.

We’re crying out for a creative midfielder and have been for years. It’s obviously a sought after role and not easy to fix but we’ve failed to deal with the problem for seasons now. That is exactly the thing I naively thought we would have been able to address with the BK investment but here we are still playing Campbell in midfield. A player who if lucky manages to find a team mate with a pass around 10% of the time. It’s absolutely nowhere near good enough,

ruthven_raiders
31-08-2024, 10:58 AM
A very simple remedy John ,the Gordon's buy the shares back . It's the only way out at the moment as rules don't let the knights buy out the Gordon's

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Might not be BK that's the problem, could be the Gordon's and Kensell, who knows what the realtionsnlike between them, must be a rift of some sorts....

ruthven_raiders
31-08-2024, 10:59 AM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Smith, Boruc

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, N. Cadden, Megwa
LB: Obita

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Levitt, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Molotnikov, Campbell

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett, N. Cadden
ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy

Levitt should be advanced midfielder, his position not sitting back in midfield....

SHODAN
31-08-2024, 11:00 AM
Levitt should e advanced midfielder, his position not sitting back in midfield....

Agreed, but that's clearly not how we intend to use him.

Cooshed Kid
31-08-2024, 11:06 AM
We’re crying out for a creative midfielder and have been for years. It’s obviously a sought after role and not easy to fix but we’ve failed to deal with the problem for seasons now. That is exactly the thing I naively thought we would have been able to address with the BK investment but here we are still playing Campbell in midfield. A player who if lucky manages to find a team mate with a pass around 10% of the time. It’s absolutely nowhere near good enough,

I agree, and they tried to get McCowan and it didn't work out. I don't think they'll give up, they just need to have a new target for next time or splash out on a high-quality free agent. But stopping us being an easy touch for 2 or 3 goals per game or being rolled over by the likes of Kelty has to be the priority and SDG is staking his Hibs' head coach career on doing that. I don't mind low-scoring games if we pick up 3 points each week. But like you, I want to see some real flair up front - but only once our goal has been bricked-up, figuratively speaking.

ruthven_raiders
31-08-2024, 11:06 AM
Agreed, but that's clearly not how we intend to use him.

Just so frustrating that this is their strategy....squad isn't perfect, but if used right we can be difficult to be as has been daid, and with our attacking options we can become a team whoch should be hitting 3rd or 4th...might not be pretty to watch but I don't care, just want a team that is consistent and wins more than loses. Behind the scenes between BK and Gordons worries me but I can't affect that...

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 11:15 AM
I agree, and they tried to get McCowan and it didn't work out. I don't think they'll give up, they just need to have a new target for next time or splash out on a high-quality free agent. But stopping us being an easy touch for 2 or 3 goals per game or being rolled over by the likes of Kelty has to be the priority and SDG is staking his Hibs' head coach career on doing that. I don't mind low-scoring games if we pick up 3 points each week. But like you, I want to see some real flair up front - but only once our goal has been bricked-up, figuratively speaking.

👍👍

Col2
31-08-2024, 11:20 AM
Agreed, but that's clearly not how we intend to use him.

I know and it’s where he was most effective for Dundee Utd.

Maybe just maybe we will be surprised and see him in that position and the balance of the midfield working overall.

blackpoolhibs
31-08-2024, 11:22 AM
And you know, "One nil to the Arsenal" was a proud boast for their fans. They didn't do too badly with that score.

Do you honestly think this lot can keep clean sheets?

Cabbage-Patch
31-08-2024, 11:22 AM
Ryan Jack
Stuart Armstrong
Marcondes
Daniel Johnson

All midfield free agents at the minute who would instantaneously improve our midfield. Armstrong wages would be steep but maybe be willing for a short term deal to get back playing again

Unseen work
31-08-2024, 11:29 AM
Ryan Jack
Stuart Armstrong
Marcondes
Daniel Johnson

All midfield free agents at the minute who would instantaneously improve our midfield. Armstrong wages would be steep but maybe be willing for a short term deal to get back playing again

Armstrong and Marcondes will likely have far more lucrative offers or more attractive offers abroad

Would take both in a heartbeat, even if I thought Marcondes was quite poor a lot of the time!

Greenworld
31-08-2024, 11:31 AM
Armstrong and Marcondes will likely have far more lucrative offers or more attractive offers abroad

Would take both in a heartbeat, even if I thought Marcondes was quite poor a lot of the time!Clearly other teams thought the same as you I think he flattered to deceive .

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Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 11:33 AM
Armstrong and Marcondes will likely have far more lucrative offers or more attractive offers abroad

Would take both in a heartbeat, even if I thought Marcondes was quite poor a lot of the time!

Totally agree with your Marcondes comment and we definitely need to do something. It’s just a pity a club of our size can’t manage to bring the right players in during the 2 month transfer window.

GreenCastle
31-08-2024, 11:38 AM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Smith, Boruc

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, C.Cadden, Megwa
LB: Obita, N. Cadden

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Levitt, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Molotnikov, Campbell

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett,
ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy

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Col2
31-08-2024, 11:41 AM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Smith, Boruc

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, N. Cadden, Megwa
LB: Obita

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Levitt, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Molotnikov, Campbell

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett, N. Cadden
ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy

The morning after the night before….. and feeling a little less vengeful
- we are probably ok up front and wide
- I am certain we will change goalies so we hope for the best
- central defence - good that we got an additional CD but can we defend overall? jury well and truly out
- DM hopefully sorted but CM and AM just dire. We will likely have a midfield of Newell, Campbell and Kwon/Triantis. That’s brutal. Time for Levitt, Amos and others to show the talent we were told they had.

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 11:43 AM
The morning after the night before….. and feeling a little less vengeful
- we are probably ok up front and wide
- I am certain we will change goalies so we hope for the best
- central defence - good that we got an additional CD but jury well and truly out
- DM hopefully sorted but CM and AM just dire. We will likely have a midfield of Newell, Campbell and Kwon/Triantis. That’s brutal. Time for Levitt, Amos and others to show the talent we were told they had.

Yes, thank gos we’ve got Amos eh. 😂

McD
31-08-2024, 11:44 AM
To sum up the window for me it’s a mixed bag.

Outs have been nothing short of impressive,we’ve managed to relocate some players that just need to play elsewhere either permanently or on loan. Huge credit has to go to the club for this,despite it being a consolation feeling.

Loans has been a strange one,our affiliate clubs haven’t made up any of our incomings, for different reasons maybe none suited either party, I’m slightly dissatisfied at our main keeper being a loan deal and possibly because I’m not particularly impressed by him either,although he may need time to flourish hence why we have signed him on loan.
Bournemouth have keepers we could’ve looked at that had better pedigree and suitability but again can’t say why we haven’t gone that root this summer.

Defence, we moved swiftly to occupy the CB area,again here can’t say I was overly enthusiastic about free transfers,and from clubs with awful defensive performances previous season,was shot down by fellow .netters for this view,and still the jury is out but I generally felt I’d have loved investment and assertion when filling those key positions. Not to say that due diligence wasn’t carried out on ekpiteta and o’hora.

Delighted with Kwon and Triantis,both loans but definitely players worth a gamble to the sitting midfield position,Kwon comes with pedigree off the back of a successful loan to st mirren and triantis I felt deserved a second look playing midfield so by all accounts good business.
Like everyone this morning probably very weary at the whole McCowan saga and how it played out.
We were never going to beat an interested Celtic to his signing, it felt a wee bit like being strung along with no attempt at a plan B.

I do feel we are well covered in most areas,upfront and left back possibly less so, with the retention of Youan,if his head is back at it we have creative sparks across the top end. The signing of Bowie a very exciting prospect and add in a very happy motivated Martin Boyle could be a few electric permutations in attack.

I was hoping for a CF to bolster our striker numbers and either play with or compete with kukharevych but let’s see how formations are and how SDG decides to set us up. Hoilett may be a secret weapon we are yet to see in attack also.

I’d give this window a 6 1/2 out of 10. Heavily scored by outgoing business. Easy to become disenfranchised because of promises made by our CEO about war chests and significant funds,not to mention our billionaire franchise backer. Becoming hard to trust anything from Ben about team affairs and I will leave it at that.

Over all trying to remain positive from a position of must do better. And a feeling of fully supporting the players we have and Dave Gray so let’s get behind them hibees season might be one we grow into and learn more about the team we have. GGTTH!



Where did Kensell mention warchests or significant funds?

Ozyhibby
31-08-2024, 11:50 AM
It doesn't take 3 or 4 windows, it takes 1. Plain and simple. This 3 or 4 windows utter tripe brain wash propaganda is pre-emptive excuses for job security.

Takes 1 for a club our size in this league, our budget v competitors. Really does.

To emphasise how weird the sentiment is - we've just signed 11 new players. A full team.

100% correct. Aberdeen know this.


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Coco Bryce
31-08-2024, 11:56 AM
It doesn't take 3 or 4 windows, it takes 1. Plain and simple. This 3 or 4 windows utter tripe brain wash propaganda is pre-emptive excuses for job security.

Takes 1 for a club our size in this league, our budget v competitors. Really does.

To emphasise how weird the sentiment is - we've just signed 11 new players. A full team.

This is bang on for me.

Our board is jam tomorrow with the fans.

Sadly a fair few of them seem to be hypnotised by this pish and actually believe the clowns running our club.

It's blatantly obvious they've not got a clue what they are doing. Club is a laughing stock.

04Sauzee
31-08-2024, 11:58 AM
Ryan Jack
Stuart Armstrong
Marcondes
Daniel Johnson

All midfield free agents at the minute who would instantaneously improve our midfield. Armstrong wages would be steep but maybe be willing for a short term deal to get back playing again
I wonder if Daniel Johnson has something lined up. Obviously he's had a pre-season and already had minutes this season, so whoever gets home if they get him quickly has someone who's ready to go.

Dalkeith Boy
31-08-2024, 12:10 PM
Levitt should be advanced midfielder, his position not sitting back in midfield....

Totally agree

JimBHibees
31-08-2024, 12:12 PM
People keep saying there’s no apparent link up but in about 8 months with them we’ve got 6 million and 3 players.

Bevan would have returned this window if it wasn’t for injury.

Maybe the players the suggested never wanted to come? Maybe we thought they weren’t good enough

There’s so many unknowns without people guessing and just saying there’s no partnership

Think that is a fair review

McGruber
31-08-2024, 12:15 PM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Boruc, Smith

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, N. Cadden, Megwa

LB: Obita

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh, Doyle-Hayes, Moriah Welsh
CM: Newell, Campbell
AM: Molotnikov, Levitt

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett, N. Cadden

ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy

How I see it. AM is Levitt we don't play there and Rudi at 18. Left Back and Keeper look like needing work next window. Loads of DMs for some reason

Cabbage-Patch
31-08-2024, 12:23 PM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Smith, Boruc

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, N. Cadden, Megwa
LB: Obita

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Levitt, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Molotnikov, Campbell

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett, N. Cadden
ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy


Absolutely mind melting Vente was allowed to leave over McKirdy.

TrinityHFC
31-08-2024, 12:27 PM
Absolutely mind melting Vente was allowed to leave over McKirdy.

Which team wanted McKirdy?

He's here!
31-08-2024, 12:28 PM
Absolutely mind melting Vente was allowed to leave over McKirdy.

Is McKirdy going to be a player anyone will want? I'm guessing he would pass a medical bearing in mind he's had a couple of games for us but my feeling is we perhaps feel we owe him a duty of care regarding his contract/financial security. Very unfortunate for him but I can see him retiring from football or dropping down to a less demanding level at the end of his Hibs deal.

Tambo
31-08-2024, 12:30 PM
Would take Emiliano now until the end of the season if he was interested, just don't think SDG will be interested or he would probably be here now.

I agree our forward line looks good on paper, we need to get the ball to them though, first half last week was non existent with again bypassing the middle and relying on our CB's to create something.

Gray has a big job on his hands and we have to start getting points on the board and/or producing performances in the league on a more consistent basis ASAP starting on Sunday.

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 12:32 PM
Which team wanted McKirdy?

Only Hibs it would appear.

Smartie
31-08-2024, 12:34 PM
Absolutely mind melting Vente was allowed to leave over McKirdy.

I don't think Vente has shown anything this season (apart from the notable and bizarre hat-trick against Elgin) to suggest he had any positive role to play for us this season and his misses have already been costly for us.

Getting rid of Vente promptly was 100% the correct decision.

McKirdy is another story, although given his recent health history I think we'd struggle to find anyone keen to take him off our hands.

Cabbage-Patch
31-08-2024, 12:35 PM
Is McKirdy going to be a player anyone will want? I'm guessing he would pass a medical bearing in mind he's had a couple of games for us but my feeling is we perhaps feel we owe him a duty of care regarding his contract/financial security. Very unfortunate for him but I can see him retiring from football or dropping down to a less demanding level at the end of his Hibs deal.

He's a footballer and will want to play. His minutes at Hibs will be limited to a few brief appearances off the bench (unless another forward is Injured) which is my real concern. Much rather have Vente step into that role. He went on loan to Swindon last season so I'm sure a lower league side in England would have taken a chance on him given his goal record down there.

Hibiza
31-08-2024, 12:43 PM
Hibs fans voted them in on the back of the game changing investment, that's beginning to look like a mistake.

Looks like we've been sold a Pup.

GloryGlory
31-08-2024, 12:44 PM
He's a footballer and will want to play. His minutes at Hibs will be limited to a few brief appearances off the bench (unless another forward is Injured) which is my real concern. Much rather have Vente step into that role. He went on loan to Swindon last season so I'm sure a lower league side in England would have taken a chance on him given his goal record down there.

My concern is that McKirdy may not be capable of playing a lot of minutes in a run of games should other strikers be injured.

Ronniekirk
31-08-2024, 12:59 PM
Is McKirdy going to be a player anyone will want? I'm guessing he would pass a medical bearing in mind he's had a couple of games for us but my feeling is we perhaps feel we owe him a duty of care regarding his contract/financial security. Very unfortunate for him but I can see him retiring from football or dropping down to a less demanding level at the end of his Hibs deal.
He is not long back playing after a serious health issue He isn’t managing to play 90 minutes and was out agsin with health issues and possibly a knock So realistically no one was going to tske a chance on him this window
If he can prove over next few moths he is fully recovered from health scare and get game time off the bench someone might tske a chance on him in Jan window

CapitalGreen
31-08-2024, 01:04 PM
Hodge scores a potential winner, 7 minutes after coming on in his debut for 10 man Huddersfield.

Cabbage-Patch
31-08-2024, 01:17 PM
Hodge scores a potential winner, 7 minutes after coming on in his debut for 10 man Huddersfield.

We offered him a contract and he turned it down as there was also championship interest.

Since452
31-08-2024, 01:21 PM
We bid pretty much a million quid for McCowan. And that's with no big money departures. There's obviously money to spend. It's the strategy that worries me. To end up with Triantis to try and fix a poor midfield is absolutely criminal. We put all our eggs in the McCowan basket, got played like a fiddle and then panicked. Or that's how it seems.

Baldy Foghorn
31-08-2024, 01:28 PM
Hibs fans voted them in on the back of the game changing investment, that's beginning to look like a mistake.

The fans vote didn't make a jot of difference. It was already in the bag before fans cast vote, due to the backing of The Gordon's and Leslie Robb

Joe6-2
31-08-2024, 01:40 PM
Anyone any idea if we may go for any frees?

GloryGlory
31-08-2024, 01:47 PM
Anyone any idea if we may go for any frees?

Yep. Malky Mackay, Dave Gray and Ben Kensell. :greengrin

GloryGlory
31-08-2024, 01:50 PM
We bid pretty much a million quid for McCowan. And that's with no big money departures. There's obviously money to spend. It's the strategy that worries me. To end up with Triantis to try and fix a poor midfield is absolutely criminal. We put all our eggs in the McCowan basket, got played like a fiddle and then panicked. Or that's how it seems.

If it had panned out that Hibs had withdrawn their bid for McCowan early and then Celtic didn't make a bid and he stayed at Dundee, people would be saying we should have kept at it to the end for him but panicked. Can't win.

MWHIBBIES
31-08-2024, 01:52 PM
Absolutely mind melting Vente was allowed to leave over McKirdy.

Not really. Vente was crap.

Trinity Hibee
31-08-2024, 02:01 PM
I’m hearing there have been conversations with Stuart Armstrong. He’s not ruled us out but I’m told he was expecting a bigger move down south which hasn’t materialised. Could be an interesting couple of days.

BSEJVT
31-08-2024, 02:02 PM
Not really. Vente was crap.

So sayeth the man who thinks Newell can do no wrong!

Vente was / is not crap, he was just badly out of form lost confidence and we didn't play to his strengths.

Albeit it didn't last long, when Vente first signed he looked like the real deal a very composed finisher.

I have no quibble with the decision to allow Vente out on loan, we must hope that he recovers some form and can recoup some of our investment.

But what your comments show, is that we all have our blind spots where player A is good and can do no wrong, whereas player B is terrible and can do no right.

This board would be a far easier read and the players far less slaughtered by social media if folk realised that as ever the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Instead folk try to out hyperbole each other in their discussions of a players merits or otherwise and it all gets a bit silly

number9dream
31-08-2024, 02:06 PM
I’m hearing there have been conversations with Stuart Armstrong. He’s not ruled us out but I’m told he was expecting a bigger move down south which hasn’t materialised. Could be an interesting couple of days.

If we have £750,000 + wages for McCowan in a kitty, offer it all for Armstrong for two years and make him captain. Maybe CEO or Sporting Director too!

Joe6-2
31-08-2024, 02:08 PM
Yep. Malky Mackay, Dave Gray and Ben Kensell. :greengrin

😂 perfect

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 02:26 PM
I’m hearing there have been conversations with Stuart Armstrong. He’s not ruled us out but I’m told he was expecting a bigger move down south which hasn’t materialised. Could be an interesting couple of days.

Reliable source? Armstrong is a much better signing than McCowan would've been.

Cabbage-Patch
31-08-2024, 02:28 PM
I’m hearing there have been conversations with Stuart Armstrong. He’s not ruled us out but I’m told he was expecting a bigger move down south which hasn’t materialised. Could be an interesting couple of days.

Unbelievable signing if we can get him but I can't see it tbh. Apparently Sheffield Utd want him. Fingers crossed though

04Sauzee
31-08-2024, 02:30 PM
I’m hearing there have been conversations with Stuart Armstrong. He’s not ruled us out but I’m told he was expecting a bigger move down south which hasn’t materialised. Could be an interesting couple of days.

Hearing from who? Good source?

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 02:30 PM
I’m hearing there have been conversations with Stuart Armstrong. He’s not ruled us out but I’m told he was expecting a bigger move down south which hasn’t materialised. Could be an interesting couple of days.

Let’s hope your source is correct as Armstrong would be (or should be) a fantastic addition. 🤞

Trinity Hibee
31-08-2024, 02:33 PM
Hearing from who? Good source?

A mate who has a mate that is close to Armstrong. No reason not to believe him.

Hoping it can happen but as said Armstrong is probably thinking he can get a better offer elsewhere. Wouldn’t surprise me if we’ve just left an offer with him. He’d be worth waiting for

Hibs1992
31-08-2024, 02:36 PM
If we have £750,000 + wages for McCowan in a kitty, offer it all for Armstrong for two years and make him captain. Maybe CEO or Sporting Director too!

800,000 transfer fee plus wages for a player like McCowan for one year easily works out at 20,000 per week for Armstrong. Not beyond possibility actually

Silky
31-08-2024, 02:47 PM
800,000 transfer fee plus wages for a player like McCowan for one year easily works out at 20,000 per week for Armstrong. Not beyond possibility actually

I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

Joe6-2
31-08-2024, 02:50 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

Free transfer for Boyle 😂

Cabbage-Patch
31-08-2024, 02:57 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

I didn't realise Boyle had that clause in his contract. Really restricts us if true. I think this will likely be Boyles last season for us in any event.

Trinity Hibee
31-08-2024, 02:59 PM
I didn't realise Boyle had that clause in his contract. Really restricts us if true. I think this will likely be Boyles last season for us in any event.

I simply cannot see that being the case.

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 03:00 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

Surely you don't get that kind of clause at our level?

Ozyhibby
31-08-2024, 03:05 PM
Looks like we've been sold a Pup.

Looks like the Black Knights were as well.


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Paul1642
31-08-2024, 03:06 PM
800,000 transfer fee plus wages for a player like McCowan for one year easily works out at 20,000 per week for Armstrong. Not beyond possibility actually

Not great for squad harmony or future negotiations

MWHIBBIES
31-08-2024, 03:07 PM
So sayeth the man who thinks Newell can do no wrong!

Vente was / is not crap, he was just badly out of form lost confidence and we didn't play to his strengths.

Albeit it didn't last long, when Vente first signed he looked like the real deal a very composed finisher.

I have no quibble with the decision to allow Vente out on loan, we must hope that he recovers some form and can recoup some of our investment.

But what your comments show, is that we all have our blind spots where player A is good and can do no wrong, whereas player B is terrible and can do no right.

This board would be a far easier read and the players far less slaughtered by social media if folk realised that as ever the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Instead folk try to out hyperbole each other in their discussions of a players merits or otherwise and it all gets a bit silly

Didn't read past your first sentence. I've never said that about Newell.

Ozyhibby
31-08-2024, 03:07 PM
Not great for squad harmony

Nor is getting beat every week.


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Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 03:10 PM
Me RRD opso

I hate text speak, English ffs

Paul1642
31-08-2024, 03:10 PM
I hate text speak, English ffs

Haha. A genuine pocket post :)

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 03:11 PM
Haha. A genuine pocket post :)

🤣

USA_Hibee
31-08-2024, 03:11 PM
Not great for squad harmony or future negotiations

Works okay in the MLS. Better players elevate others.

Paul1642
31-08-2024, 03:14 PM
Works okay in the MLS. Better players elevate others.

Do MLS teams not have a much different structure in that that have a mixture of ex European superstars playing in the same team as some very limited players? I don’t keep tabs on the MLS but I thought there was a rule about only having a couple of players earning above a salary cap. We have no such limit so if we give one player 20k per week it’s hard to then negate a first team player for £4k or similar.

HUTCHYHIBBY
31-08-2024, 03:17 PM
Just me or is he horse

You could be forgiven for thinking that. 😉

HUTCHYHIBBY
31-08-2024, 03:20 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

20k a week, 🤭

USA_Hibee
31-08-2024, 03:21 PM
Do MLS teams not have a much different structure in that that have a mixture of ex European superstars playing in the same team as some very limited players? I don’t keep tabs on the MLS but I thought there was a rule about only having a couple of players earning above a salary cap. We have no such limit so if we give one player 20k per week it’s hard to then negate a first team player for £4k or similar.

No you're totally right but I was just meaning the MLS teams can have players on much higher wages than the rest of the squad and squad harmony seems to be fine.

Trinity Hibee
31-08-2024, 03:27 PM
Not great for squad harmony or future negotiations

I wonder what players opinions were when Sauzee joined.

Betty Boop
31-08-2024, 03:28 PM
20k a week, 🤭
Aye in our dreams :greengrin

500miles
31-08-2024, 03:38 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

Sounds unlikely, but even if he did, we pay Armstrong the same as Boyle and top it up with a hefty signing on fee.

Wilson
31-08-2024, 03:39 PM
I wonder what players opinions were when Sauzee joined.

Choc and orange or choc and mint. So much more choice now.

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 03:41 PM
I wonder what players opinions were when Sauzee joined.

I think they would have been stunned to have such quality playing alongside them regardless of what wages he was on. Such was the team we had there would have been players on all sorts of strange wages, Latapy, Mixu, O’Neill, Zitelli

Oh to have that quality again

joe breezy
31-08-2024, 03:53 PM
Boyle to be highest paid player contractually sounds like absolute pish


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Since90+2
31-08-2024, 03:56 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

No chance that's in his contract.

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 04:02 PM
No chance that's in his contract.

Yep, if anything its capped, we are hibs ffs not Real Madrid 🤣

JimBHibees
31-08-2024, 04:03 PM
Boyle to be highest paid player contractually sounds like absolute pish


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Yes really only for top teams you would have thought.

CropleyWasGod
31-08-2024, 04:07 PM
Hibs fans voted them in on the back of the game changing investment, that's beginning to look like a mistake.

They didn't. (Leslie Robb excepted).

Silky
31-08-2024, 05:03 PM
No chance that's in his contract.

I was sure I'd read that somewhere - may have been a thread on here some time ago. May not be the case, and is be staggered if it was.

chrisski33
31-08-2024, 05:13 PM
If the Armstrong rumour is true Hibs should sign him, sod it if hes on way higher wages he is better than what we have who in all honesty are well paid anyway!

Ozyhibby
31-08-2024, 05:14 PM
If the Armstrong rumour is true Hibs should sign him, sod it if hes on way higher wages he is better than what we have who in all honesty are well paid anyway!

Of course we should. If it’s doable then it should be done pronto.


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DIXIHIBS
31-08-2024, 05:50 PM
800,000 transfer fee plus wages for a player like McCowan for one year easily works out at 20,000 per week for Armstrong. Not beyond possibility actually

£1m a year with no sell on etc....nae chance

K-Zazu
31-08-2024, 05:52 PM
If the Armstrong rumour is true Hibs should sign him, sod it if hes on way higher wages he is better than what we have who in all honesty are well paid anyway!

It’s not true.

Jones28
31-08-2024, 05:53 PM
I would definitely do that. However, does Boyle not have a clause which makes him the highest paid player? If that's the case, then he needs a rise too so it becomes a bit more than £20,000 a week!

Are you saying that Martin Boyle has a clause in his contract that no matter who we sign he will automatically get paid more than them?

I’ve never heard of this kind of clause ever, and how do you know this to be true?

04Sauzee
31-08-2024, 05:58 PM
Are you saying that Martin Boyle has a clause in his contract that no matter who we sign he will automatically get paid more than them?

I’ve never heard of this kind of clause ever, and how do you know this to be true?
He doesn't , he's actually asking if it may be true

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 06:23 PM
Are you saying that Martin Boyle has a clause in his contract that no matter who we sign he will automatically get paid more than them?

I’ve never heard of this kind of clause ever, and how do you know this to be true?

There’s absolutely no way that any employer would ever give someone a clause like that in their contract. Mind you it’s Hibs I suppose!

Michael
31-08-2024, 06:27 PM
There’s absolutely no way that any employer would ever give someone a clause like that in their contract. Mind you it’s Hibs I suppose!

It's not unheard of in football. Alex Ferguson had such a clause at United.

Not In The Know
31-08-2024, 06:29 PM
Beginning to look like we were sold a big lie.

I’ve defended Kensell in the past, probably as much as anybody but his position must be becoming untenable. I don’t think we can believe a word that comes out his mouth any more. Clearly fed us a pack of lies to sell season tickets.

Wonder what his commission was for sourcing such a big deal into the club.


Major elephant in the room.

Scottie
31-08-2024, 06:32 PM
It's not unheard of in football. Alex Ferguson had such a clause at United.
Aye but he was the Messiah

bod
31-08-2024, 06:39 PM
There’s absolutely no way that any employer would ever give someone a clause like that in their contract. Mind you it’s Hibs I suppose!

I’m sure Ian wright had that but defo heard that a few years ago about a player

SHODAN
31-08-2024, 06:46 PM
If Hibs sign Armstrong I'll change my username to Wrong About Everything.

NC1875
31-08-2024, 06:55 PM
If Hibs sign Armstrong I'll change my username to Wrong About Everything.

Fantasy land stuff. Just like the people saying he lives in Edinburgh. He doesn’t. And he won’t be signing for Hibs

S4uzee
31-08-2024, 07:00 PM
Fantasy land stuff. Just like the people saying he lives in Edinburgh. He doesn’t. And he won’t be signing for Hibs

Exactly. People just wanting to be ITK.

basehibby
31-08-2024, 07:09 PM
Never fails to amaze me the levels of folk on here with thier heads in the sand. Nobody can look at this window and think aye that's been a success, we look stronger.

The levels of sheer ineptitude shown by the supposed leaders at the club is staggering. We absolutely destroy a link up with an EPL club that could have seen us finally have a real shot at being consistent top 3/4 every season and in turn miss out on transfer money and quality players from the BK group. We set our stall out to sign a player from Dundee who never wanted to come to us anyway and in the process get made to look like absolute clowns from Dundee for the sake of 200k. Leave it so late there was no Plan B. No danger Triantis comes back if got McCowan.

Yet some think the club can do no wrong. It's David Gray I feel sorry for the most. Guy who has given his all to the club and gets what it means to be at Hibs but will likely be out on his ear by October. Can't remember ever feeling so despondent about Hibs in my life.

Never fails to amaze me how much drivel some posters will make up out of thin air to justify their continuing online tantruming.

1) I can't see more than one or two on here claiming this window has been a great success. Moreso pointing out it has not been an abject failure as some - like you - are insisting

2) "We absolutely destroy a link up with an EPL Club" - this is just pure fiction. BK have invested £6M in Hibs and as a result retain a 20% share. Absolutely NOTHING has changed there. No transfer money has been "missed out on". What has not been spent of that £6M remains in Hibs'bank account.

3) I dispute every word you say about the non-signing of McCowan. You have basically taken any and every aspect of the saga and attempted to use it as a stick to beat the club you undou table support with.

I get it you are not happy with the final day activity. I'm also disappointed we could not sign McCowan. But get real mate - the window as a whole has been far from a disaster with a **** load of much needed outs and ins successfully concluded - including the signings of two centre forwards that show every sign of being great acquisitions.

Attacking midfield still needs addressed but there is a certain out of contract player who was with us last season and retains connections to BK that I have a sneaking suspicion will be returning to us shortly and would in my opinion qualify as a very decent "plan B"....

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 07:14 PM
Malky discussing summer transfer window (Ian Gordon puff piece);

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz8Wp4OpbuI

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 07:15 PM
Fantasy land stuff. Just like the people saying he lives in Edinburgh. He doesn’t. And he won’t be signing for Hibs

I dont remember anyone saying he lived in Edinburgh, owns property in Edinburgh and throughout Scotland, although easy for folk like you to make up fantasy stuff eh

JJP
31-08-2024, 07:30 PM
There’s absolutely no way that any employer would ever give someone a clause like that in their contract. Mind you it’s Hibs I suppose!

I think it may be more of an American thing. I’ve heard of it being used in American sports. I think it’s called a favoured nations clause or a price parity clause.

NC1875
31-08-2024, 07:32 PM
I dont remember anyone saying he lived in Edinburgh, owns property in Edinburgh and throughout Scotland, although easy for folk like you to make up fantasy stuff eh

Yeah I know he does. He doesn’t live in Edinburgh though. Which was posted on here.

And if you think Armstrong is signing for Hibs there is only one fantasist here, and it’s not me.

And what does “folk like you” mean exactly ?

LunasBoots
31-08-2024, 07:37 PM
Malky discussing summer transfer window (Ian Gordon puff piece);

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz8Wp4OpbuI

Yeah, sounds a bit like they wanted to offload certain players but couldn't so we'll have to wait until next year when those players contracts are up.

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 07:39 PM
Yeah, sounds a bit like they wanted to offload certain players but couldn't so we'll have to wait until next year when those players contracts are up.

Aye, was pretty clear some players refused to leave and in doing so will have no part to play going forward. Which I'm absolutely onboard with.

We're doing the right thing honouring their contracts. Just hope we don't have them training with the first team.

greenlex
31-08-2024, 07:40 PM
Aye, was pretty clear some players refused to leave and in doing so will have no part to play going forward. Which I'm absolutely onboard with.

We're doing the right thing honouring their contracts. Just hope we don't have them training with the first team.
JDH and Kenneh for a couple.

Dashing Bob S
31-08-2024, 07:46 PM
I only want to say the Scottish Cup is in the bag. We’re going to top the league next year and carry home the flag.

Joe6-2
31-08-2024, 07:54 PM
I only want to say the Scottish Cup is in the bag. We’re going to top the league next year and carry home the flag.

Here here

Lago
31-08-2024, 07:57 PM
If Hibs sign Armstrong I'll change my username to Wrong About Everything.
Just waiting for the post saying its a done deal:greengrin

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 08:10 PM
Yeah I know he does. He doesn’t live in Edinburgh though. Which was posted on here.

And if you think Armstrong is signing for Hibs there is only one fantasist here, and it’s not me.

And what does “folk like you” mean exactly ?You said people said Armstrong lived in Edinburgh, who said that ? Apologies if i missed that post.

And where the **** did I ever say Armstrong was signing for hibs ? Show me that post please, good lad 👍

Folk like you ? You mean making stuff up like I said Armstrong was signing for hibs 🤣

Smartie
31-08-2024, 08:12 PM
You said people said Armstrong lived in Edinburgh, who said that ? Apologies if i missed that post.

And where the **** did I ever say Armstrong was signing for hibs ? Show me that post please, good lad 👍

I think someone at some point mentioned that he owned property in the New Town.

Different to “lives in Edinburgh” but could have given that impression?

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 08:14 PM
I think someone at some point mentioned that he owned property in the New Town.

Different to “lives in Edinburgh” but could have given that impression?

Yeah as I alluded to in my post earlier

ancient hibee
31-08-2024, 08:24 PM
BP
They paid £6 mil to by a % of the club.

Bournemouth aren't the only club in our multi-club model though? And from a recruitment point of view, if the better players aren't going to come to play in Scotland then what's the point in us being involved? Wasn't this supposed to take us to the next level player wise? How can that be the case if they don't want to play in this league?

Surely the point is we’ve got six millIon quid to spend on whatever we want.
j

NC1875
31-08-2024, 08:31 PM
You said people said Armstrong lived in Edinburgh, who said that ? Apologies if i missed that post.

And where the **** did I ever say Armstrong was signing for hibs ? Show me that post please, good lad 👍

Folk like you ? You mean making stuff up like I said Armstrong was signing for hibs 🤣

There has been people on here saying Armstrong lives in Edinburgh. I didn’t just make that bit up.

And I never said YOU said Armstrong was signing for Hibs ? Go back and read the post. It was nothing to do with you.

Like I said before, only one fantasist here and it’s certainly not me.

Keep your “good lad” patronising pish to yourself 👍🏼

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 08:33 PM
There has been people on here saying Armstrong lives in Edinburgh. I didn’t just make that bit up.

And I never said YOU said Armstrong was signing for Hibs ? Go back and read the post. It was nothing to do with you.

Like I said before, only one fantasist here and it’s certainly not me.

Keep your “good lad” patronising pish to yourself 👍🏼

He has a place in Edinburgh does he not? Where do you think he'll be living when he signs on the dotted line? Scarborough?

NC1875
31-08-2024, 08:35 PM
He has a place in Edinburgh does he not? Where do you think he'll be living when he signs on the dotted line? Scarborough?

I’ve got a place in Hawick, doesn’t mean I live in it. Jeezo

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 08:38 PM
I’ve got a place in Hawick, doesn’t mean I live in it. Jeezo

Aw aye, moneybags! 😉

Would you live in it if you signed for Hawick Royal Albert?

NC1875
31-08-2024, 08:40 PM
Aw aye, moneybags! 😉

Would you live in it if you signed for Hawick Royal Albert?

Would I ****, the place is a dump 😂

I’m not saying Armstrong doesn’t have a house in Edinburgh. He has property all over the country.

I’m saying one, he doesn’t live in it and two, he’s not signing for hibs

JohnM1875
31-08-2024, 08:42 PM
Would I ****, the place is a dump 😂

I’m not saying Armstrong doesn’t have a house in Edinburgh. He has property all over the country.

I’m saying one, he doesn’t live in it and two, he’s not signing for hibs

😂 fair enough.

I can't see him signing for us either. But for as long as he's out of contract I'm going to hope he does. I'm sure you do too

Keepthefaith
31-08-2024, 08:48 PM
Never fails to amaze me how much drivel some posters will make up out of thin air to justify their continuing online tantruming.

1) I can't see more than one or two on here claiming this window has been a great success. Moreso pointing out it has not been an abject failure as some - like you - are insisting

2) "We absolutely destroy a link up with an EPL Club" - this is just pure fiction. BK have invested £6M in Hibs and as a result retain a 20% share. Absolutely NOTHING has changed there. No transfer money has been "missed out on". What has not been spent of that £6M remains in Hibs'bank account.

3) I dispute every word you say about the non-signing of McCowan. You have basically taken any and every aspect of the saga and attempted to use it as a stick to beat the club you undou table support with.

I get it you are not happy with the final day activity. I'm also disappointed we could not sign McCowan. But get real mate - the window as a whole has been far from a disaster with a **** load of much needed outs and ins successfully concluded - including the signings of two centre forwards that show every sign of being great acquisitions.

Attacking midfield still needs addressed but there is a certain out of contract player who was with us last season and retains connections to BK that I have a sneaking suspicion will be returning to us shortly and would in my opinion qualify as a very decent "plan B"....

we'll said - folk are just looking to rip the club to pieces in a Trump-esque fake news kinda way. nice to have balance - those of us seeing the positives are not doing so blindly - I do think our recruitment could have been better overall however there's plenty of folk kicking up a fuss who wanted us to sign Dhanda, Spittal etc at hearts and insisted that by doing so hearts had 3rd place wrapped up.

next few games are key - our new recruits will be settled in / up to fitness and I expect us to kick on from here. agree about Marcondes too.

NC1875
31-08-2024, 08:51 PM
we'll said - folk are just looking to rip the club to pieces in a Trump-esque fake news kinda way. nice to have balance - those of us seeing the positives are not doing so blindly - I do think our recruitment could have been better overall however there's plenty of folk kicking up a fuss who wanted us to sign Dhanda, Spittal etc at hearts and insisted that by doing so hearts had 3rd place wrapped up.

next few games are key - our new recruits will be settled in / up to fitness and I expect us to kick on from here. agree about Marcondes too.

I hope we do kick on. I’ve been negative about Hibs all summer and quite rightly IMO but what’s done is done. It’s time to back Gray and the team and hope we can start building something. At long last.


Starting tomorrow. GGTTH.

Bridge hibs
31-08-2024, 08:53 PM
There has been people on here saying Armstrong lives in Edinburgh. I didn’t just make that bit up.

And I never said YOU said Armstrong was signing for Hibs ? Go back and read the post. It was nothing to do with you.

Like I said before, only one fantasist here and it’s certainly not me.

Keep your “good lad” patronising pish to yourself 👍🏼You said this “
And if you think Armstrong is signing for Hibs there is only one fantasist here, and it’s not me”

I didnt say Armstrong was signing for hibs so be a good lad and stop making things up eh

NC1875
31-08-2024, 09:41 PM
You said this “
And if you think Armstrong is signing for Hibs there is only one fantasist here, and it’s not me”

I didnt say Armstrong was signing for hibs so be a good lad and stop making things up eh

Your original post is below -

I dont remember anyone saying he lived in Edinburgh, owns property in Edinburgh and throughout Scotland, although easy for folk like you to make up fantasy stuff eh

What is this fantasy I’m supposedly making up ?

I said he doesn’t live in Edinburgh. HE DOESNT

and he won’t be signing for Hibs. HE WONT

You got yourself involved in a post that was nothing to do with you. And I’m still not sure what point you’re trying to make.

Now you Run along, good lad

Unseen work
31-08-2024, 09:45 PM
Malky saying well look at the free agent market

Wonder who we’d go for

007
31-08-2024, 10:01 PM
Never fails to amaze me the levels of folk on here with thier heads in the sand. Nobody can look at this window and think aye that's been a success, we look stronger.

The levels of sheer ineptitude shown by the supposed leaders at the club is staggering. We absolutely destroy a link up with an EPL club that could have seen us finally have a real shot at being consistent top 3/4 every season and in turn miss out on transfer money and quality players from the BK group. We set our stall out to sign a player from Dundee who never wanted to come to us anyway and in the process get made to look like absolute clowns from Dundee for the sake of 200k. Leave it so late there was no Plan B. No danger Triantis comes back if got McCowan.

Yet some think the club can do no wrong. It's David Gray I feel sorry for the most. Guy who has given his all to the club and gets what it means to be at Hibs but will likely be out on his ear by October. Can't remember ever feeling so despondent about Hibs in my life.

There was no plan B but we only signed Triantis because we didn't get McCowan. :LOL:

Springbank
31-08-2024, 10:05 PM
Malky saying well look at the free agent market

Wonder who we’d go for

This is not a good look for the guy supposedly bringing strategy to our poor recent recruitment

Wilson
31-08-2024, 10:19 PM
This is not a good look for the guy supposedly bringing strategy to our poor recent recruitment

We'd hardly be ignoring that market!

If we'd signed nobody and depended on this market then it's not a good look. As an avenue to supplement business already done, it's fine.

Lago
31-08-2024, 10:24 PM
Malky saying well look at the free agent market

Wonder who we’d go for
He's saying what he expects the fans want to hear.

Unseen work
31-08-2024, 10:25 PM
This is not a good look for the guy supposedly bringing strategy to our poor recent recruitment

How is it not?

Plenty of good options out there

It would be poor if we just ignored that market

tamig
31-08-2024, 10:26 PM
How is it not?

Plenty of good options out there

It would be poor if we just ignored that market

Some absolutely cracking players available just now.

007
31-08-2024, 10:38 PM
He's saying what he expects the fans want to hear.

Or, you are going looking for negatives and we will look at the free agent market.

One Day Soon
31-08-2024, 10:42 PM
The proof as to whether this window has been an abject failure conjured up by inexperienced fools making it up as they go along or a triumph of judicious forward planning and shrewd acquisitions shaped by golden geniuses will be in how we now do this season.

The barely adequate very least we could reasonably expect is to finish higher than last season - 7th. Underwhelming progress would be finishing sixth. Actual progress to inspire confidence would be a European place.

My faith in the people running the club disappeared over the horizon with its arse on fire long ago. All the bull**** from them and anyone else amounts to zero. The window is now shut and they and their eleven signings stand or fall on what happens on the park from here on in.

ruthven_raiders
31-08-2024, 10:48 PM
I hope we do kick on. I’ve been negative about Hibs all summer and quite rightly IMO but what’s done is done. It’s time to back Gray and the team and hope we can start building something. At long last.


Starting tomorrow. GGTTH.

Yup I'm done let's move on and back the team for the rest of the season 💚

Callum_62
01-09-2024, 12:42 AM
Down with free agents!!

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tonyrougier123
01-09-2024, 12:59 AM
Malky saying well look at the free agent market

Wonder who we’d go for

I liked the no topping up pensions remark. Too many these boys floating about. Youngsters at prem teams riding of back of that.

gbhibby
01-09-2024, 07:59 AM
Ryan Jack still available.

GreenPJ
01-09-2024, 08:05 AM
Ryan Jack still available.

Forgetting his injuries does Jack actually solve the problem we have which is moving the ball quicker and having drive from midfield. He is a good midfielder but our chronic problem is the pace of how we move/drive the ball through midfield.

Callum_62
01-09-2024, 08:10 AM
Ryan Jack still available.Definitely dont need another defensive midfielder

Some good players are on the free list but he isn't one I'd look at

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JimBHibees
01-09-2024, 08:11 AM
He's saying what he expects the fans want to hear.

Or what he actually thinks

JimBHibees
01-09-2024, 08:12 AM
Definitely need another defensive midfielder

Some good players are on the free list but he isn't one I'd look at

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Do we seems like we now have two with Triantis and Kwon

flash
01-09-2024, 08:37 AM
Do we seems like we now have two with Triantis and Kwon

Genuinely hope that Kwon could be a lot more than just a "number 6."
We shall see.

JimBHibees
01-09-2024, 08:40 AM
Genuinely hope that Kwon could be a lot more than just a "number 6."
We shall see.

Hopefully and looks like he might be. Thought he looked a wee bit off the pace last week hoping that game brings him on for today.

Smartie
01-09-2024, 10:20 AM
Genuinely hope that Kwon could be a lot more than just a "number 6."
We shall see.

I was surprised with the type of player he was last week - played further forward than I was expecting. This is possibly one of the reasons why, relative to some within our support, I’ve been very welcoming of the Triantis signing.

In all honesty I’m still not looking at our multitude of midfielders and seeing an obvious unit that compliment one another and I reckon figuring that one out will be one of Gray’s biggest challenges - probably central to our chances of success this season.

Callum_62
01-09-2024, 10:48 AM
I was surprised with the type of player he was last week - played further forward than I was expecting. This is possibly one of the reasons why, relative to some within our support, I’ve been very welcoming of the Triantis signing.

In all honesty I’m still not looking at our multitude of midfielders and seeing an obvious unit that compliment one another and I reckon figuring that one out will be one of Gray’s biggest challenges - probably central to our chances of success this season.I think, if playing a 3 I'd go for Triantis sitting

Newell next to Kwon

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A Hi-Bee
01-09-2024, 10:49 AM
Time will tell, go for the free agents.
This is Hibs remember.

GreenCastle
01-09-2024, 10:50 AM
Do we seems like we now have two with Triantis and Kwon

Which makes you wonder how Newell will be played ?

Will he play further forward ??

J-C
01-09-2024, 11:43 AM
Malky saying well look at the free agent market

Wonder who we’d go for

Well Hoilett was one last season and this and he has quality, we know about Marcondes and there must be a few more out there that can add quality for our level.

The Modfather
01-09-2024, 11:43 AM
Which makes you wonder how Newell will be played ?

Will he play further forward ??

We will find out later today, but with newell’s bad habits I reckon seeing Triantis, Kwon and Newell in and around the half way line for large parts of games while our forwards look on could be fairly common.

basehibby
01-09-2024, 11:50 AM
The proof as to whether this window has been an abject failure conjured up by inexperienced fools making it up as they go along or a triumph of judicious forward planning and shrewd acquisitions shaped by golden geniuses will be in how we now do this season.

The barely adequate very least we could reasonably expect is to finish higher than last season - 7th. Underwhelming progress would be finishing sixth. Actual progress to inspire confidence would be a European place.

My faith in the people running the club disappeared over the horizon with its arse on fire long ago. All the bull**** from them and anyone else amounts to zero. The window is now shut and they and their eleven signings stand or fall on what happens on the park from here on in.

That's fair comment. The truth will probably be somewhere in between the extremes of outright incompetence and pure genius and results on the park are the only reliable barometer. Fingers crossed for fair weather ahead!

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2024, 12:04 PM
We will find out later today, but with newell’s bad habits I reckon seeing Triantis, Kwon and Newell in and around the half way line for large parts of games while our forwards look on could be fairly common.

Newell creates and gets the ball to our forwards plenty. Our forwards are often a black hole where attacks end.

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2024, 12:08 PM
Newell creates and gets the ball to our forwards plenty. Our forwards are often a black hole where attacks end.

Here we go again.
:faf:

Donegal Hibby
01-09-2024, 12:08 PM
There’s lots of good players that are free agents …..

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler

hibee-boys
01-09-2024, 12:10 PM
Newell creates and gets the ball to our forwards plenty. Our forwards are often a black hole where attacks end.

I want to see Joe get a run out for a few games in the 10 role. Quick feet, can beat a man, good range of passing…..wasted at DM I think🤷🏼

Edit: Looks like I might get my wish today🤔

Benny Brazil
01-09-2024, 12:16 PM
There’s lots of good players that are free agents …..

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler

You could make a cracking starting 11 from some of those players who are available

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2024, 12:19 PM
Here we go again.
:faf:

Not my opinion, though. Any stats site will show he does create a good number of chances and anyone with eyes can see he gets the ball to our wingers especially very often.

Our forwards last season and especially the one before were missing a lot of chances.

Donegal Hibby
01-09-2024, 12:20 PM
You could make a cracking starting 11 from some of those players who are available

Certainly could . Hopefully we can pick up one dare i say of the quality of Maolida that would see signing for us a good move for a year to put themselves in the shop window so to speak.

CapitalGreen
01-09-2024, 12:42 PM
Not my opinion, though. Any stats site will show he does create a good number of chances and anyone with eyes can see he gets the ball to our wingers especially very often.

Our forwards last season and especially the one before were missing a lot of chances.

Last season, only Motherwell had a better chance conversion % than we did.

Unseen work
01-09-2024, 12:51 PM
Vente just scored whilst on loan!

Squared to him and he tapped it in from 5 yards

Paulie Walnuts
01-09-2024, 12:53 PM
Vente just scored whilst on loan!

Squared to him and he tapped it in from 5 yards

I’d fancy he’ll do well this season.

J-C
01-09-2024, 12:55 PM
Vente just scored whilst on loan!

Squared to him and he tapped it in from 5 yards

Cert that was gonna happen, the lad's confidence was shot, needed a fresh start.

Brightside
01-09-2024, 12:57 PM
I want to see Joe get a run out for a few games in the 10 role. Quick feet, can beat a man, good range of passing…..wasted at DM I think🤷🏼

Edit: Looks like I might get my wish today🤔

Watch as he slowly moves back into no6 😂

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2024, 12:57 PM
Vente just scored whilst on loan!

Squared to him and he tapped it in from 5 yards

He will score goals in the right team, good technical player.

Forza Fred
01-09-2024, 01:13 PM
There’s absolutely no way that any employer would ever give someone a clause like that in their contract. Mind you it’s Hibs I suppose!

Dunno if it was in the contract but AlexMiller said Steve Archibald said he would sign for us only if he was the highest paid player at Easter Road.

So he gave him £1 more than the then top earner.

SaulGoodman
01-09-2024, 01:14 PM
He will score goals in the right team, good technical player.

So why couldn’t he do it with us? We were putting it on a plate for him the last few weeks before we sent him on his way. That’s not our fault.

J-C
01-09-2024, 01:17 PM
So why couldn’t he do it with us? We were putting it on a plate for him the last few weeks before we sent him on his way. That’s not our fault.

Confidence, simply put, possibly struggled with having the pressure of being the main striker and snatching at chances.

A Hi-Bee
01-09-2024, 01:18 PM
So why couldn’t he do it with us? We were putting it on a plate for him the last few weeks before we sent him on his way. That’s not our fault.

No being an expert unlike some, I dont know, perhaps bad coaching or lack of confidence or could just have been the cloggers in the Scottish game preventing him getting more goals.

Unseen work
01-09-2024, 01:21 PM
28136

It was a tap in that required 0 skill. I’m not going to say he’s a changed man/in a better team and that’s what’s made the difference

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2024, 01:21 PM
Confidence, simply put, possibly struggled with having the pressure of being the main striker and snatching at chances.

Or he just wasnt good enough?

J-C
01-09-2024, 01:27 PM
Or he just wasnt good enough?

Or maybe the whole team just wasn't good enough, the crap runs through the whole team, he didn't look happy being here.

Joe6-2
01-09-2024, 01:27 PM
I want to see Joe get a run out for a few games in the 10 role. Quick feet, can beat a man, good range of passing…..wasted at DM I think🤷🏼

Edit: Looks like I might get my wish today🤔

Careful what you ask for 😂
I hope it works

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2024, 01:31 PM
Or maybe the whole team just wasn't good enough, the crap runs through the whole team, he didn't look happy being here.

:agree:
The whole team were not good enough, him being one of the worst.

hibees 7062
01-09-2024, 01:44 PM
There’s lots of good players that are free agents …..

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler
We should sign McCowans replacement before Dundee

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2024, 01:46 PM
Last season, only Motherwell had a better chance conversion % than we did.

Sorry, I word that wrongly. I don't necessarily mean just clear chances or shots. More that we'd get into good areas, have loads of attacks, get loads of balls into the box and not score.

We are so slow around the box.

Hibees1973
01-09-2024, 01:58 PM
The proof as to whether this window has been an abject failure conjured up by inexperienced fools making it up as they go along or a triumph of judicious forward planning and shrewd acquisitions shaped by golden geniuses will be in how we now do this season.

The barely adequate very least we could reasonably expect is to finish higher than last season - 7th. Underwhelming progress would be finishing sixth. Actual progress to inspire confidence would be a European place.

My faith in the people running the club disappeared over the horizon with its arse on fire long ago. All the bull**** from them and anyone else amounts to zero. The window is now shut and they and their eleven signings stand or fall on what happens on the park from here on in.

Everyone hoped that once the Montgomery was sacked and the Black Knights were here things would be different.

All that has changed is that MacKay has come in and everything seems very cozy between him, Ian Gordon, Kensell & McPherson. It really grates with me that this Golden Quadrant are all looking after each other, giving plaudits. It really is depressing.

To hear MacKay praising Ian Gordon proves nothing has really changed. MacKay spent a fair bit of the window clearing up Ian Gordon's mess.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the mess is deluded.

Callum_62
01-09-2024, 02:02 PM
Everyone hoped that once the Montgomery was sacked and the Black Knights were here things would be different.

All that has changed is that MacKay has come in and everything seems very cozy between him, Ian Gordon, Kensell & McPherson. It really grates with me that this Golden Quadrant are all looking after each other, giving plaudits. It really is depressing.

To hear MacKay praising Ian Gordon proves nothing has really changed. MacKay spent a fair bit of the window clearing up Ian Gordon's mess.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the mess is deluded.All Mackay said is the Gordon's have put significant funds into the club

Is he wrong?

What else did he say to praise Ian Gordon?

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Hibiza
01-09-2024, 05:52 PM
Haw ! Gordon : bring the pie' s down .

Paul1642
01-09-2024, 05:53 PM
Early impressions on the 11 signings now the window is shut:

Kieron Bowie - Looks like a really good player. Good signing. Hopefully firing at full fitness after the international break.

Josef Bursik - Has looked a bit shaky at times but overall okay. Better today.

Nicky Cadden - Not sure what the thinking behind a 3 year deal was here. Squad player at best at a time when we have too many squad players.

Marvin Ekpiteta - A few mistakes but when asked to play a simple game today he done it very well. A good move hopefully.

Junior Hoilett - Impossible to say yet for obvious reasons. High hopes though.

Jack Iredale - Same as above minus the high hopes. I would be giving him a start at LB next game thought.

Hyeokkyu Kwon - Looks good, as expected.

Mykola Kuharevich - Same as above. Hopefully firing at full fitness after the international break.

Warren O'Hora - Looks solid enough.

Jordan Smith - Not much game time but on the face of it a very weird and uninspiring signing.

Nectarios Triantis - 1 game, 1 MOTM. Good start.

I’d add that not losing Youan is as good as any signing we could make as long as his head is in it.

Unseen work
01-09-2024, 05:57 PM
Cadden looks too heavy for me

Hopefully shifts some pounds over the break

Winston Ingram
01-09-2024, 06:25 PM
So why couldn’t he do it with us? We were putting it on a plate for him the last few weeks before we sent him on his way. That’s not our fault.

Cos Monty changed his role from goal scorer to swapping places with midfielders.

B.H.F.C
01-09-2024, 07:54 PM
No being an expert unlike some, I dont know, perhaps bad coaching or lack of confidence or could just have been the cloggers in the Scottish game preventing him getting more goals.

If you look at the game today, Vente would have been a man down with the physicality of it. It’s not quite as extreme as it was today every week, but the team of last season would just have been bullied in a game the way it was played today. It was land of the giants for us today.

One Day Soon
01-09-2024, 08:04 PM
Everyone hoped that once the Montgomery was sacked and the Black Knights were here things would be different.

All that has changed is that MacKay has come in and everything seems very cozy between him, Ian Gordon, Kensell & McPherson. It really grates with me that this Golden Quadrant are all looking after each other, giving plaudits. It really is depressing.

To hear MacKay praising Ian Gordon proves nothing has really changed. MacKay spent a fair bit of the window clearing up Ian Gordon's mess.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the mess is deluded.

You’re not disagreeing with me though.

CapitalGreen
01-09-2024, 08:04 PM
If you look at the game today, Vente would have been a man down with the physicality of it. It’s not quite as extreme as it was today every week, but the team of last season would just have been bullied in a game the way it was played today. It was land of the giants for us today.

Vente scored Rugby Park last season. Myko is a lot more physical than Vente but he’s been largely anonymous in open play since he returned. In his 4 league games he’s had 1 shot in the penalty box in 4 hours of football.

B.H.F.C
01-09-2024, 08:11 PM
Vente scored Rugby Park last season. Myko is a lot more physical than Vente but he’s been largely anonymous in open play since he returned. In his 4 league games he’s had 1 shot in the penalty box in 4 hours of football.

He did, but I think he would have been useless in the game the way it was played today. I’ve not seen a game played like that for a long time. The ball was in the air as much as it was on the ground and it was just a battle. I don’t think Myko was anonymous either today or last week. He had a battle on his hands and we just needed that today.

Unseen work
01-09-2024, 08:34 PM
Vente scored Rugby Park last season. Myko is a lot more physical than Vente but he’s been largely anonymous in open play since he returned. In his 4 league games he’s had 1 shot in the penalty box in 4 hours of football.

Myko at least managed to get away a couple of shots and imposed himself on the game physically with some of his hold up play

Vente I honestly don’t think would have got much of a touch

He's here!
01-09-2024, 08:49 PM
Everyone hoped that once the Montgomery was sacked and the Black Knights were here things would be different.

All that has changed is that MacKay has come in and everything seems very cozy between him, Ian Gordon, Kensell & McPherson. It really grates with me that this Golden Quadrant are all looking after each other, giving plaudits. It really is depressing.

To hear MacKay praising Ian Gordon proves nothing has really changed. MacKay spent a fair bit of the window clearing up Ian Gordon's mess.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the mess is deluded.

It didn't seem to me that Mackay was praising Ian Gordon's acumen as much as his enthusiasm for the club. I get the impression his late dad will have talked about his ambition for Hibs and he'll want to try and make good on that. The fact he probably came in knowing little about football isnt great but as Mackay correctly points out each manager has been well backed.

B.H.F.C
01-09-2024, 08:56 PM
Myko at least managed to get away a couple of shots and imposed himself on the game physically with some of his hold up play

Vente I honestly don’t think would have got much of a touch

That is my point. I know McInnes can have his teams playing in a fairly industrial manner but it was off the scale today. To be fair, we weren’t much better at times but, particularly in the first half, it was one of the most brutal games of football I’ve seen in ages. What we did do was match them physically though. If you think of Vente playing instead of Myko, or a Levitt instead of Kwon, we’d just not have been able to do that.

Gmack7
01-09-2024, 09:51 PM
Any out of contract left backs ? We could do with one

Crab apple
01-09-2024, 10:03 PM
That is my point. I know McInnes can have his teams playing in a fairly industrial manner but it was off the scale today. To be fair, we weren’t much better at times but, particularly in the first half, it was one of the most brutal games of football I’ve seen in ages. What we did do was match them physically though. If you think of Vente playing instead of Myko, or a Levitt instead of Kwon, we’d just not have been able to do that.

We weren't bullied today that's for sure and that is the most physical Killie team I've seen. Myko and Kwon give us more of a physical presence. It's no surprise that Killie have had a number of sendings off already this season.

Crab apple
01-09-2024, 10:05 PM
Any out of contract left backs ? We could do with one

Obita has been culpable in a number of the goals we have conceded this season. We could do with another option.

Forza Fred
01-09-2024, 10:09 PM
Obita has been culpable in a number of the goals we have conceded this season. We could do with another option.

We’ve got one in Iredale

Donegal Hibby
01-09-2024, 10:27 PM
That is my point. I know McInnes can have his teams playing in a fairly industrial manner but it was off the scale today. To be fair, we weren’t much better at times but, particularly in the first half, it was one of the most brutal games of football I’ve seen in ages. What we did do was match them physically though. If you think of Vente playing instead of Myko, or a Levitt instead of Kwon, we’d just not have been able to do that.

Megwa was mentioned today though IMO it was the type of game that wouldn’t have suited him either . I was impressed with Miller today who generally stood up to anything they threw at him and had a very good game .

Agree with what you say about the game though with the pitch and the way McInnes teams are I think it was to be expected.

Crab apple
01-09-2024, 10:41 PM
We’ve got one in Iredale

The club announced him as a centre back when he signed. If he can comfortably play LB then got to be worth a shout.

McGruber
01-09-2024, 11:00 PM
We’ve got one in Iredale

Where was he today? Not selected? Injured?

eastmainsmsh
02-09-2024, 06:12 PM
Any out of contract left backs ? We could do with one

Barry Douglas

BoomtownHibees
02-09-2024, 06:18 PM
Stuart Armstrong meant to be going to Vancouver

King Cosell
02-09-2024, 06:30 PM
John Fleck, anyone?

04Sauzee
02-09-2024, 06:35 PM
John Fleck, anyone?

Fleck off

CentreForward
02-09-2024, 07:04 PM
The club announced him as a centre back when he signed. If he can comfortably play LB then got to be worth a shout.


Think he has played LB quite a bit.

CallumLaidlaw
02-09-2024, 07:07 PM
Think he has played LB quite a bit.

According to Transfermarkt he’s played left back more than CB. Has also played a fair number of games at left midfield.


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HoboHarry
02-09-2024, 07:15 PM
Any out of contract left backs ? We could do with one

I thought that Paul Dummett was a left back. Ex Newcastle but played for St Mirren a few years back and now a free agent.

Houston7
02-09-2024, 07:38 PM
I thought that Paul Dummett was a left back. Ex Newcastle but played for St Mirren a few years back and now a free agent.

Surprised Dummett is a free agent, as he was/maybe is a decent LB. However, Iredale signed as LCB & LB cover.

CentreForward
02-09-2024, 07:53 PM
According to Transfermarkt he’s played left back more than CB. Has also played a fair number of games at left midfield.


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Thanks. That’s interesting as I didn’t know that he had actually played more games at LB. If he’s any good then certainly sounds as if he could be handy in more than one position.

erin go bragh
02-09-2024, 08:15 PM
Where was he today? Not selected? Injured?

Commentator on Hibs tv said he was signed too late to be involved today.

Unseen work
02-09-2024, 08:19 PM
John Fleck, anyone?

Is this a suggestion or something you’ve heard?

If fit then 100%

JohnM1875
02-09-2024, 08:19 PM
Commentator on Hibs tv said he was signed too late to be involved today.

Adam 'absolutely' Tomlinson

JohnM1875
02-09-2024, 08:20 PM
Is this a suggestion or something you’ve heard?

If fit then 100%

Yup, no brainer if available.

04Sauzee
02-09-2024, 08:36 PM
Is this a suggestion or something you’ve heard?

If fit then 100%

He's played 5 games since last October and his last appearance was February.

tonyrougier123
03-09-2024, 05:09 AM
If Vancouver white caps can do a deal for Armstrong surely if we were looking for an industrious midfielder of that mould we could tempt him in.
Class midfielder would walk it back in SPL.

tonyrougier123
03-09-2024, 05:10 AM
BTW what happened to diclonius on here?,just wondering as this thread rolls on.

SHODAN
03-09-2024, 06:53 AM
BTW what happened to diclonius on here?,just wondering as this thread rolls on.

I'm Diclonius, just changed my name. :greengrin

Just keeping the thread open a bit to see if any free agents come in.

The Modfather
03-09-2024, 07:05 AM
Was looking at the players out of contract next summer. Which is probably not accurate as Newell showing as out of contract for example. However some players I’d like us to try and get signed on a pre contract early in January.

Danny Armstrong
Lyle Cameron
Victor Loturi ( though that’s on reputation, is he actually any good?)
Finlay Robertson (as above)

Paulie Walnuts
03-09-2024, 07:07 AM
Was looking at the players out of contract next summer. Which is probably not accurate as Newell shoeing as out of contract for example. However some players I’d like us to try and get signed on a pre contract early in January.

Danny Armstrong
Lyle Cameron
Victor Loturi ( though that’s on reputation, is he actually any good?)
Finlay Robertson (as above)

Out of interest, why Robertson?

I know he’s fairly young, but he’s not managed to establish himself at Dundee.

The Modfather
03-09-2024, 07:09 AM
Out of interest, why Robertson?

I know he’s fairly young, but he’s not managed to establish himself at Dundee.

He is, or was, highly rated. Was just asking the question based on that as couldn’t tell you anything about him or pick him out a lineup.

HUTCHYHIBBY
03-09-2024, 07:28 AM
Victor Loturi ( though that’s on reputation, is he actually any good?)

New signings are always a bit of a gamble. 🤭

Nicho87
03-09-2024, 07:42 AM
Not arsed about talent, as long as he holds the door open for his team mate that all that matters

tonyrougier123
03-09-2024, 08:06 AM
I'm Diclonius, just changed my name. :greengrin

Just keeping the thread open a bit to see if any free agents come in.

😂😂. Goodstuff thought you’d left 🤦*♂️👍🏻

Cheshire Hibee
03-09-2024, 08:07 AM
Squad going into January:

GK: Bursik, Smith, Boruc

CB: O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Iredale, Bushiri
RB: Miller, N. Cadden, Megwa
LB: Obita

DM: Kwon, Triantis, Amos, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Levitt, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Molotnikov, Campbell

W: Boyle, Youan, Hoilett, N. Cadden
ST: Kuharevich, Bowie, McKirdy

We are a but light at LB though Iredale can play there but is it worth looking at Brandon Williams who is a free agent.
As much as I like Obita he is prone to mistakes and maybe competition will help to focus his development.


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Paulie Walnuts
03-09-2024, 08:16 AM
We are a but light at LB though Iredale can play there but is it worth looking at Brandon Williams who is a free agent.
As much as I like Obita he is prone to mistakes and maybe competition will help to focus his development.


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With how heavily we seem to be pushing the ‘right character’ stuff I’d suggest Williams wouldn’t be one we’d be looking at.

hibee-boys
03-09-2024, 08:47 AM
Only at Hibs can the previous years POTY be mince 4 games into the next season🙄

tonyrougier123
03-09-2024, 08:56 AM
Only at Hibs can the previous years POTY be mince 4 games into the next season🙄

Tbf here he did grow into season last year wasn’t all that great at first.
Got a lot better as season went on. Still a player there but we need a couple defensive full backs in our ranks. I’m all for attacking but longer game goes on and energy levels dip and as killie done made a deluge of quick changes,it would be nice to swap out obita miller/cadden for a hard full back able to get forward but handle defensive duties.

scm70nyd1973
03-09-2024, 09:38 AM
Stuart Armstrong meant to be going to Vancouver

I’m actually going there tomorrow- I’ll see what I can do 🤭

CapitalGreen
03-09-2024, 10:45 AM
Only at Hibs can the previous years POTY be mince 4 games into the next season🙄

Speak to any Hearts or Rangers fans just now and you’ll see it’s not only at Hibs.

hibee-boys
03-09-2024, 10:47 AM
Tbf here he did grow into season last year wasn’t all that great at first.
Got a lot better as season went on. Still a player there but we need a couple defensive full backs in our ranks. I’m all for attacking but longer game goes on and energy levels dip and as killie done made a deluge of quick changes,it would be nice to swap out obita miller/cadden for a hard full back able to get forward but handle defensive duties.

I agree, with Bowie, Myko, Hoilett, Youan and Boyle potentially on the pitch at any one time how good does a full back need to be going forward. Perhaps the new signing will be a better defensive full back and leave the flashy stuff the names above in the final 3rd.

Ronniekirk
03-09-2024, 12:03 PM
If we are going to bring in a free agent or agents let’s do it quickly so they have a chance to work with gray and backroom staff during this current break and get them fitter
If we wait till the break is over we then have to get another player up to speed and it’s then weeks before they are match fit

Centre Hawf
03-09-2024, 12:22 PM
If Vancouver white caps can do a deal for Armstrong surely if we were looking for an industrious midfielder of that mould we could tempt him in.
Class midfielder would walk it back in SPL.

The MLS is a piss poor standard for me, but I would still be surprised if we can really compete with Vancouver Whitecaps in terms of the overall package we could offer versus theirs.

Smartie
03-09-2024, 01:10 PM
The MLS is a piss poor standard for me, but I would still be surprised if we can really compete with Vancouver Whitecaps in terms of the overall package we could offer versus theirs.

If I already had a few quid behind me there's no amount of money you could offer me to choose Edinburgh over Vancouver.

And Edinburgh's not even that bad if you're well off.

JimBHibees
03-09-2024, 01:23 PM
If I already had a few quid behind me there's no amount of money you could offer me to choose Edinburgh over Vancouver.

And Edinburgh's not even that bad if you're well off.

What about the winters 😄

ancient hibee
03-09-2024, 01:27 PM
What about the winters 😄



What about the travel to play games?

Centre Hawf
03-09-2024, 02:01 PM
If I already had a few quid behind me there's no amount of money you could offer me to choose Edinburgh over Vancouver.

And Edinburgh's not even that bad if you're well off.

Ryan Gauld is on around $55k a week to play for Vancouver.

Assuming Armstrong can get the same off them (he's got a higher pedigree behind him than Gauld ever did) and can handle a 3 year stint there he'd still pocket just shy of $9/10m with bonuses. Absolutely no chance on earth would I come to Hibs for the sake of being in Scotland over that.

worcesterhibby
03-09-2024, 02:19 PM
Ryan Gauld is on around $55k a week to play for Vancouver.

Assuming Armstrong can get the same off them (he's got a higher pedigree behind him than Gauld ever did) and can handle a 3 year stint there he'd still pocket just shy of $9/10m with bonuses. Absolutely no chance on earth would I come to Hibs for the sake of being in Scotland over that.

Let’s not forget, there is a complete lack of Greggs in Vancouver, that must be a stumbling block ?

HoboHarry
03-09-2024, 02:37 PM
The MLS is a piss poor standard for me, but I would still be surprised if we can really compete with Vancouver Whitecaps in terms of the overall package we could offer versus theirs.
Makes me laugh every time I read that on here, if there's a league anywhere worthy of the name "piss poor" its in Scotland.

Baldy Foghorn
03-09-2024, 02:41 PM
Armstrong has signed 1 year deal with Vancouver

Since90+2
03-09-2024, 02:58 PM
Makes me laugh every time I read that on here, if there's a league anywhere worthy of the name "piss poor" its in Scotland.

Id rather watch Scottish Premier games any day of the week then MLS. There is a reason despite being based in the biggest commercial country in the world nobody outside the US cares a jot about the MLS.

Bridge hibs
03-09-2024, 03:00 PM
Makes me laugh every time I read that on here, if there's a league anywhere worthy of the name "piss poor" its in Scotland.

Ive never watched the MLS, what standard would you compare it with ?

Genuine question by the way, Im not being arsey, other than the Scottish and English leagues I only really watch the A league live

CentreForward
03-09-2024, 03:03 PM
What about the winters 😄

They’re not actually as bad on that west side of Canada. Much milder than the freezing permanently sub-zero winters in the middle and further east. Probably quite wet in the winter in Vancouver though.

Paulie Walnuts
03-09-2024, 03:15 PM
Ive never watched the MLS, what standard would you compare it with ?

Genuine question by the way, Im not being arsey, other than the Scottish and English leagues I only really watch the A league live

The MLS is probably slightly better than the non old firm teams generally speaking I’d say. Throw in the fact we’ve got the 2 old firm teams though and it becomes much of a muchness imo.

Centre Hawf
03-09-2024, 03:22 PM
Makes me laugh every time I read that on here, if there's a league anywhere worthy of the name "piss poor" its in Scotland.

Scotland is as well, doesn't make MLS any less piss poor though. Once you scratch beneath the surface of some of the household names over there to retire, or the odd South American that is on his way to Europe via America, the large majority of the league is still comparable level to English League 2.

Plenty of the sub standard guys over here have carved out pretty lovely careers over there -

Johnny Russell.
Lewis Morgan.
Gary Mackay-Steven.
Andy Dorman.
Sam Nicholson
Danny Wilson.
Steven Caldwell.
Even the love in for Ryan Gauld who was a fairly average bottom half Portuguese league player is a star.

That's all before you even get into the list of guys that came over here with pedigree and weren't up to it like Perry Kitchen (MVP at his club prior before returning to LA Galaxy and being a mainstay) and Chris Mueller.

sauzee1989
03-09-2024, 03:26 PM
With how heavily we seem to be pushing the ‘right character’ stuff I’d suggest Williams wouldn’t be one we’d be looking at.

Yeah we are a laughing stock the now without signing someone that’s supposedly addicted to inhaling laughing gas

Jones28
03-09-2024, 03:36 PM
What about the winters 😄

Of course, I forgot folk come to Scotland for the weather :greengrin

Bridge hibs
03-09-2024, 03:43 PM
Yeah we are a laughing stock the now without signing someone that’s supposedly addicted to inhaling laughing gas

Sign him and he could pass some of his “giggle gas” to a few on here

Giggles 😁

ian cruise
03-09-2024, 03:47 PM
Scotland is as well, doesn't make MLS any less piss poor though. Once you scratch beneath the surface of some of the household names over there to retire, or the odd South American that is on his way to Europe via America, the large majority of the league is still comparable level to English League 2.

Plenty of the sub standard guys over here have carved out pretty lovely careers over there -

Johnny Russell.
Lewis Morgan.
Gary Mackay-Steven.
Andy Dorman.
Sam Nicholson
Danny Wilson.
Steven Caldwell.
Even the love in for Ryan Gauld who was a fairly average bottom half Portuguese league player is a star.

That's all before you even get into the list of guys that came over here with pedigree and weren't up to it like Perry Kitchen (MVP at his club prior before returning to LA Galaxy and being a mainstay) and Chris Mueller.

We'd definitely have taken most, if not all of the Scottish players mentioned at the time they moved to the MLS, the point regarding Kitchen and Mueller is accurate though.

I'm not sure the MLS is any better or worse than the SPFL, probably just a little more time on the ball vs the blood and thunder of the Scottish game which is why some technically sound players stand out a little more over there.

Hibiza
03-09-2024, 03:48 PM
Armstrong to Vancouver , that', s a miss , c'mon Malky , find another similar .

HoboHarry
03-09-2024, 03:57 PM
Id rather watch Scottish Premier games any day of the week then MLS. There is a reason despite being based in the biggest commercial country in the world nobody outside the US cares a jot about the MLS.
No one outside Scotland cares a jot about Scottish football either in spite of what the uglies would have you believe. In 24 years here I could count on my two hands the number of Scottish jerseys I've seen (excluding Aberdeen, seen a good few of those due to the number of oil guys here in the Houston area). Not once have I seen someone wearing a Rangers top, not a single time.

Centre Hawf
03-09-2024, 04:09 PM
We'd definitely have taken most, if not all of the Scottish players mentioned at the time they moved to the MLS, the point regarding Kitchen and Mueller is accurate though.

I'm not sure the MLS is any better or worse than the SPFL, probably just a little more time on the ball vs the blood and thunder of the Scottish game which is why some technically sound players stand out a little more over there.

Yeah for sure. I think there is a large amount of it comparable to middle of the road to bottom end Scottish Prem in terms of the technical ability but the speed and tempo of it just doesn't seem to be as in your face as over here which is probably what catches guys off guard when coming over this way and allows some of our lads to hit the ground running quicker when they go over.

I was maybe being a bit over zealous by saying piss poor standard. But I don't think despite all it's PR work and star signings that the quality of the game is anything to rave about, it's very comparable to our league as you say which also isn't exactly stellar either.

NGoloGrantie
03-09-2024, 04:12 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-why-hibs-drew-a-black-knight-blank-during-summer-window-4766049

‘That’s why they wanted a proven performer like Wales Under-21 centre-half Bevan. And why, more pertinently, they rejected the chance to sign the magnificently monikered Bonke Innocent from FC Lorient. Not because Hibs didn’t want to take a player from another club within billionaire investor Bill Foley’s sphere of influence – but because David Gray felt Nectar Triantis was a safer bet.’

Interesting this dunno how I feel about it.


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JohnM1875
03-09-2024, 04:18 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-why-hibs-drew-a-black-knight-blank-during-summer-window-4766049

‘That’s why they wanted a proven performer like Wales Under-21 centre-half Bevan. And why, more pertinently, they rejected the chance to sign the magnificently monikered Bonke Innocent from FC Lorient. Not because Hibs didn’t want to take a player from another club within billionaire investor Bill Foley’s sphere of influence – but because David Gray felt Nectar Triantis was a safer bet.’

Interesting this dunno how I feel about it.


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That's exactly what I was looking for to be fair.

Whilst I don't completely agree that the only player who could have came up and did a job was Bevan, it answers the questions I had about the relationship with the BK group.

Centre Hawf
03-09-2024, 04:21 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-why-hibs-drew-a-black-knight-blank-during-summer-window-4766049

‘That’s why they wanted a proven performer like Wales Under-21 centre-half Bevan. And why, more pertinently, they rejected the chance to sign the magnificently monikered Bonke Innocent from FC Lorient. Not because Hibs didn’t want to take a player from another club within billionaire investor Bill Foley’s sphere of influence – but because David Gray felt Nectar Triantis was a safer bet.’

Interesting this dunno how I feel about it.


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Having never seen either lads play a second of football I'm going to trust the club on it. Although admittedly if both of them were cheap to get they probably would have gave us nicer depth to the squad.

LaMotta
03-09-2024, 04:37 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-why-hibs-drew-a-black-knight-blank-during-summer-window-4766049

‘That’s why they wanted a proven performer like Wales Under-21 centre-half Bevan. And why, more pertinently, they rejected the chance to sign the magnificently monikered Bonke Innocent from FC Lorient. Not because Hibs didn’t want to take a player from another club within billionaire investor Bill Foley’s sphere of influence – but because David Gray felt Nectar Triantis was a safer bet.’

Interesting this dunno how I feel about it.


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Whilst I'm very happy with Triantis, I have to admit to being disappointed at not ending up with a player called Bonke Innocent playing for us. He has a decent enough pedigree, played for Malmo for 5 seasons (albeit not a regular starter).

Cabbage-Patch
03-09-2024, 04:48 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-why-hibs-drew-a-black-knight-blank-during-summer-window-4766049

‘That’s why they wanted a proven performer like Wales Under-21 centre-half Bevan. And why, more pertinently, they rejected the chance to sign the magnificently monikered Bonke Innocent from FC Lorient. Not because Hibs didn’t want to take a player from another club within billionaire investor Bill Foley’s sphere of influence – but because David Gray felt Nectar Triantis was a safer bet.’

Interesting this dunno how I feel about it.


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Hindsight is a wonderful thing and all that but why not sign both Innocent and Triantis? The McCowan deal was never happening and we should have walked away sooner.

Unseen work
03-09-2024, 05:04 PM
That's exactly what I was looking for to be fair.

Whilst I don't completely agree that the only player who could have came up and did a job was Bevan, it answers the questions I had about the relationship with the BK group.

Who else do you think from Bournemouth could have done a job for us?

Allant1981
03-09-2024, 05:07 PM
No one outside Scotland cares a jot about Scottish football either in spite of what the uglies would have you believe. In 24 years here I could count on my two hands the number of Scottish jerseys I've seen (excluding Aberdeen, seen a good few of those due to the number of oil guys here in the Houston area). Not once have I seen someone wearing a Rangers top, not a single time.

Sure I read previously celtic have a supporters association in almost half the American states and I know rangers have quite a few also, they have a decent support regardless of what we think of them