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Stuart93
10-08-2024, 10:00 AM
Can just picture the scenario where we don’t get him now and then Hearts end up picking him up for free on a pre-contract in January. If he impresses today then the chances of that happening might even increase further.

ffs.

I’ve just put the pitchfork away in the cupboard

matty_f
10-08-2024, 10:00 AM
That reminds me of the great Frank Drebin quote from "Police Squad"

"The doctors give him a 50% chance of living.
Though there's only a 10% chance of that"

Outstanding. 😂

theonlywayisup
10-08-2024, 10:03 AM
Any updates on Hodge, he seems an interesting one, very highly rated a season or 2 back


Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

Any update on Hodge, Kenneh and Harbottle?

Ronniekirk
10-08-2024, 10:34 AM
Any update on Hodge, Kenneh and Harbottle?
There has been no confirmation from club that those two players are away so at present assume it’s speculation

21sMay
10-08-2024, 11:32 AM
Any update on Hodge, Kenneh and Harbottle?

Harbottle should be away in the next week . Kenneh wages are an issue supposedly

chippy
10-08-2024, 11:37 AM
Harbottle should be away in the next week . Kenneh wages are an issue supposedly

So probably has a club or two interested but Hibs need to give him a pay off re potential lower wages

hibee-boys
10-08-2024, 11:39 AM
Harbottle should be away in the next week . Kenneh wages are an issue supposedly

Had Kenneh even played a senior game of football before arriving at Hibs🤷🏼 What on earth justified a 3 year deal on wages, that it would seem, other teams aren’t prepared to pay. Some of the contracts dished out over the past few years have been ridiculous.

easty
10-08-2024, 11:41 AM
McGowan is a decent player but has had one really good season. Hibs can’t and won’t pay 7 figures for him. His wage expectations will match the fee. I don’t see him signing for anyone. He’d be better staying at Dundee and leave for free next summer.

As you say though, he’s had one good season, so is he better off moving now, or hoping that he replicates last season? If he has a stinker of a season this year then he’ll get nae decent move on a free.

andrew70
10-08-2024, 11:45 AM
Had Kenneh even played a senior game of football before arriving at Hibs🤷🏼 What on earth justified a 3 year deal on wages, that it would seem, other teams aren’t prepared to pay. Some of the contracts dished out over the past few years have been ridiculous.

Many English clubs wanted him so I understand why Hibs pushed the boat out.

He looked scared of the ball when playing for Hibs but I don’t think he appreciated how intense an environment it was. He’s still young and has fared better at RC and Shrewsbury.

He’ll struggle to get the same wages but a pay off from Hibs may help. He knows himself he needs away to play. Whether that’s a loan or perm is down to him.

It will be interesting to keep an eye on him after another year at this level or lower league one/two down south. It’s just not worked but that’s not without trying.

CentreForward
10-08-2024, 11:50 AM
Think a lot of this McCowan/Csmpbell chat may still depend on the situation with Youan. Problem of course could be that if you we sell Youan first and Dundee know that we are in thre money then the price may go up!

CentreForward
10-08-2024, 11:50 AM
ffs.

I’ve just put the pitchfork away in the cupboard

Hopefully you keep it there!

degenerated
10-08-2024, 12:12 PM
Had Kenneh even played a senior game of football before arriving at Hibs[emoji1743] What on earth justified a 3 year deal on wages, that it would seem, other teams aren’t prepared to pay. Some of the contracts dished out over the past few years have been ridiculous.What is it that he gets paid?

hibee-boys
10-08-2024, 12:24 PM
What is it that he gets paid?

Don’t have a clue. However, I think we can assume that if he was offered the same deal elsewhere, with more chance of getting regular football, he’d have been away by now. My point was that, whether £500 or £5,000 a week, we’re evidently paying him more than other clubs feel he is worth.

Centre Hawf
10-08-2024, 12:43 PM
Had Kenneh even played a senior game of football before arriving at Hibs🤷🏼 What on earth justified a 3 year deal on wages, that it would seem, other teams aren’t prepared to pay. Some of the contracts dished out over the past few years have been ridiculous.

I know we have a lot of bad signing recently to beat the club with but Kenneh isn't really one I'm as quick to batter them for tbh.

I think it was a ***** move from us in hindsight but to be somewhat fair to the club I imagine he was probably getting offered similar wages elsewhere as he was fairly well rated in amongst that England academy football scene. I remember reading/hearing at the time Leeds did offer him a new deal to stay but he chose to go try and play senior football now rather than wait again for minutes at Leeds.

We pushed the boat out to get someone in who was quite highly rated and it's backfired massively, he also took a risk and came up the road to us when he could have stayed in his bubble down there. It hasn't worked out but I think there was hints of real ambition with us signing him, especially as we were desperate for a CDM at that time (again).

superfurryhibby
10-08-2024, 01:18 PM
As you say though, he’s had one good season, so is he better off moving now, or hoping that he replicates last season? If he has a stinker of a season this year then he’ll get nae decent move on a free.

His career stats are pretty consistent. The difference is that last season he did it in the top league.

LaMotta
10-08-2024, 01:28 PM
I know we have a lot of bad signing recently to beat the club with but Kenneh isn't really one I'm as quick to batter them for tbh.

I think it was a ***** move from us in hindsight but to be somewhat fair to the club I imagine he was probably getting offered similar wages elsewhere as he was fairly well rated in amongst that England academy football scene. I remember reading/hearing at the time Leeds did offer him a new deal to stay but he chose to go try and play senior football now rather than wait again for minutes at Leeds.

We pushed the boat out to get someone in who was quite highly rated and it's backfired massively, he also took a risk and came up the road to us when he could have stayed in his bubble down there. It hasn't worked out but I think there was hints of real ambition with us signing him, especially as we were desperate for a CDM at that time (again).

Highly rated by who though and based on what? Academy football? He was completely untested at any senior level, and we gave him a three year deal on big wages.

After a couple of games in the league cup where he toiled against part timers it was obvious he wasn't good enough for us - so who actually watched him play and thought he would be good? It was a ridiculous signing IMO.

A Hi-Bee
10-08-2024, 01:38 PM
Just heard someone on the No 1 bus ask the driver directions to Easter Road in a right black country accent. Tall black curly hair, went past Greggs so he may be a player.
:wink:

Bridge hibs
10-08-2024, 01:47 PM
Just heard someone on the No 1 bus ask the driver directions to Easter Road in a right black country accent. Tall black curly hair, went past Greggs so he may be a player.
:wink:

Newell with a new hairdo

Smartie
10-08-2024, 01:53 PM
Highly rated by who though and based on what? Academy football? He was completely untested at any senior level, and we gave him a three year deal on big wages.

After a couple of games in the league cup where he toiled against part timers it was obvious he wasn't good enough for us - so who actually watched him play and thought he would be good? It was a ridiculous signing IMO.

These signings are high risk for sure… but I sort of get the logic in making these signings once in a while. Problem is, at that point it was all “untried youngsters” and there’s no guarantee any of them are going to come off. As it is, none of them have come off and the high point was probably a bit of damage limitation on Melkersen.

I was quite excited about Kenneh at the time. No questioning he’s been a flop. The “not going to cut it at a bigger club than ours” market has been a bit disastrous for us overall though.

CallumLaidlaw
10-08-2024, 01:56 PM
Highly rated by who though and based on what? Academy football? He was completely untested at any senior level, and we gave him a three year deal on big wages.

After a couple of games in the league cup where he toiled against part timers it was obvious he wasn't good enough for us - so who actually watched him play and thought he would be good? It was a ridiculous signing IMO.

Tbf you only have to go down to England where Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea are selling untested youngsters for millions due to their potential.


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chippy
10-08-2024, 02:07 PM
Newell with a new hairdo

Nobody from the Black Country would go past Greggs unless they didn’t have any fresh cut hot pork sandwiches

LaMotta
10-08-2024, 02:11 PM
These signings are high risk for sure… but I sort of get the logic in making these signings once in a while. Problem is, at that point it was all “untried youngsters” and there’s no guarantee any of them are going to come off. As it is, none of them have come off and the high point was probably a bit of damage limitation on Melkersen.

I was quite excited about Kenneh at the time. No questioning he’s been a flop. The “not going to cut it at a bigger club than ours” market has been a bit disastrous for us overall though.

Yeah agree with all that - the three year contract thing was the maddest part though. Two years seems far more sensible.


Tbf you only have to go down to England where Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea are selling untested youngsters for millions due to their potential.



Yeah fair point, its all a bit mad.

Jones28
10-08-2024, 02:55 PM
Newell with a new hairdo

Don’t say anything about Newall getting a perm, Blackpool Hibs will think we’ve offered him a deal for life 😂

Bridge hibs
10-08-2024, 03:16 PM
Don’t say anything about Newall getting a perm, Blackpool Hibs will think we’ve offered him a deal for life 😂

🤣

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 03:17 PM
McCowan starts for Dundee, didn't expect anything else to be honest. He’ll play as long as he’s a Dundee player.

CentreForward
10-08-2024, 03:40 PM
McCowan starts for Dundee, didn't expect anything else to be honest. He’ll play as long as he’s a Dundee player.

Hope he has a poorish game but Dundee still go on to win. If anyone outside the OF has a spare 500k or more to spend then it’s Hearts so I don’t want an impressive performance suddenly tempting them tomorrow!

04Sauzee
10-08-2024, 03:49 PM
Hope he has a poorish game but Dundee still go on to win. If anyone outside the OF has a spare 500k or more to spend then it’s Hearts so I don’t want an impressive performance suddenly tempting them tomorrow!

Tbf if Hearts don't know his qualities by now then they never will.

hibsmad
10-08-2024, 03:57 PM
A lot of chat regarding Campbell and moving on to him if the McCowan negotiations drag on too long. However when checking flashscores it appears he hasn’t played any football this year. Either injured or an unused sub.

I’d love the Allan Campbell I remember from his Motherwell days. I’m just wondering what the deal with him last season was?

Spudster
10-08-2024, 04:00 PM
Highly rated by who though and based on what? Academy football? He was completely untested at any senior level, and we gave him a three year deal on big wages.

After a couple of games in the league cup where he toiled against part timers it was obvious he wasn't good enough for us - so who actually watched him play and thought he would be good? It was a ridiculous signing IMO.

He was highly thought of down south. There's a Leeds documentary where he is viewed as one of their best prospects. Some fans even thought he was a replacement for Kalvin Philips who was about to leave for City. I'd imagine we faced competition for his signature and offering a 3 year deal helped us land him.

CentreForward
10-08-2024, 04:07 PM
A lot of chat regarding Campbell and moving on to him if the McCowan negotiations drag on too long. However when checking flashscores it appears he hasn’t played any football this year. Either injured or an unused sub.

I’d love the Allan Campbell I remember from his Motherwell days. I’m just wondering what the deal with him last season was?


That’s my worry about him that he isn’t the player he was and perhaps largely caused by injuries.Mia think he would certainly be a risk if we signed him.

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 04:07 PM
A lot of chat regarding Campbell and moving on to him if the McCowan negotiations drag on too long. However when checking flashscores it appears he hasn’t played any football this year. Either injured or an unused sub.

I’d love the Allan Campbell I remember from his Motherwell days. I’m just wondering what the deal with him last season was?

Have to admit I've said I'd prefer Campbell out of the two, but that's really based on his Motherwell games. Haven't seen him since going down south so could be a different player.

04Sauzee
10-08-2024, 04:11 PM
Are Campbell and McCowan similar types of players? Genuine question.

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 04:12 PM
Are Campbell and McCowan similar types of players? Genuine question.

McCowan definitely more forward thinking and will get more goals and assists you’d imagine. Campbell was class at breaking up the play and getting Motherwell up the pitch.

Remember thinking Campbell was their version of McGinn. I think his few seasons at Motherwell he looked a good bit better than McCowan did last season, albeit they offer different things, probably why he got a move to the English Championship.

blackpoolhibs
10-08-2024, 04:13 PM
Don’t say anything about Newall getting a perm, Blackpool Hibs will think we’ve offered him a deal for life 😂
Nah, he said he might be a player.:wink:

ruthven_raiders
10-08-2024, 04:15 PM
McCowan definitely more forward thinking and will get more goals and assists you’d imagine. Campbell was class at breaking up the play and getting Motherwell up the pitch.

In the perfect world, getting both would be amazing, but that's unlikely ....

Hibiza
10-08-2024, 04:24 PM
In the perfect world, getting both would be amazing, but that's unlikely ....

You never know ,sometimes the unlikely can happen .

Centre Hawf
10-08-2024, 04:39 PM
In the perfect world, getting both would be amazing, but that's unlikely ....

I dont think its often you get the chance to entice two players as good as these to Hibs. We've burned far more money on lesser talents and should go all out to get both imo.

I'm_cabbaged
10-08-2024, 04:41 PM
McCowan loses the ball in a dangerous area, should fit in fine 🤣

Coco Bryce
10-08-2024, 04:42 PM
McCowan loses the ball in a dangerous area, should fit in fine 🤣

6k a week. 4 year deal 😀

Centre Hawf
10-08-2024, 04:48 PM
Highly rated by who though and based on what? Academy football? He was completely untested at any senior level, and we gave him a three year deal on big wages.

After a couple of games in the league cup where he toiled against part timers it was obvious he wasn't good enough for us - so who actually watched him play and thought he would be good? It was a ridiculous signing IMO.

Yes academy football. I do agree it's ridiculous for us and in hindsight but he was a well thought of player at PL2 level - a level that many players go for millions from without senior appearances.

I think the club tried to be ambitious and strike a deal for a guy who undoubtedly would have been looked at by some Championship level clubs because of his PL2 form, we just got it wrong. The problem was we got 6/7 wrong that window too.

CentreForward
10-08-2024, 04:50 PM
Yes the BBC text commentary says in the 11th minute ‘Hearts pounce on a moment of slackness from McCowan’ Maybe we’ll end up dodging a bullet or will he go on to score a hat trick !!

HendoDelivered
10-08-2024, 04:50 PM
Anyone know whats happening with Kenayo?

MagicSwirlingShip
10-08-2024, 04:57 PM
Is that a MacCowan assist or a Hertz goalie assist?

Jones28
10-08-2024, 05:00 PM
Nah, he said he might be a player.:wink:

😂😂😂

B.H.F.C
10-08-2024, 05:02 PM
Anyone know whats happening with Kenayo?

Nae idea but I think he’ll be away. Probably third choice when he needs to be playing.

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 05:20 PM
One lack bit of play that led to a Hearts chance, other than that, good composed first half from McCowan. Hearts bid at HT incoming.

TrinityHFC
10-08-2024, 05:22 PM
At least Hearts got all their business done early.

Bridge hibs
10-08-2024, 05:26 PM
At least Hearts got all their business done early.

9 quality signings I will have you know 👌

Bridge hibs
10-08-2024, 05:27 PM
Ha ha hearts need to bring Shankland and No so Barry McKay on or they are gonna lose this game

I'm_cabbaged
10-08-2024, 05:30 PM
Ha ha hearts need to bring Shankland and No so Barry McKay on or they are gonna lose this game

Has no so Barry touched the baw?

Bridge hibs
10-08-2024, 05:31 PM
Has no so Barry touched the baw?

I thought he was on the bench

whiskyhibby
10-08-2024, 05:32 PM
9 quality signings I will have you know 👌


Thats almost a full pub team……🤣😀🤣

I'm_cabbaged
10-08-2024, 05:33 PM
McCowan loses the ball in a dangerous area, should fit in fine 🤣

Tbf, he’s schooling the midfield

I'm_cabbaged
10-08-2024, 05:33 PM
I thought he was on the bench

So did I until I checked the line ups 🤣🤣

Pytheas
10-08-2024, 05:35 PM
Are Campbell and McCowan similar types of players? Genuine question.

Campbell played classic central mid for Motherwell, box to box. Down at Luton he became more of a 6, sitting in front of defence, nicking the ball, simple passes. Still allowed to break forward occassionally, and he was superb, a big reason they got promoted to the Prem.

McCowan is much more of a playmaker, has the engine and tackling to track back and defend but he's a guy that gets the ball up the park.

If somehow we got both then Campbell would play where Newell played against St Mirren and McCowan would take Josh Campbell's spot. Presumably with Newell playing with them and given a bit less to do defensively.

CapitalGreen
10-08-2024, 05:40 PM
Campbell played classic central mid for Motherwell, box to box. Down at Luton he became more of a 6, sitting in front of defence, nicking the ball, simple passes. Still allowed to break forward occassionally, and he was superb, a big reason they got promoted to the Prem.

McCowan is much more of a playmaker, has the engine and tackling to track back and defend but he's a guy that gets the ball up the park.

If somehow we got both then Campbell would play where Newell played against St Mirren and McCowan would take Josh Campbell's spot. Presumably with Newell playing with them and given a bit less to do defensively.

For me it would be

A Campbell for NMW
McCowan for Newell

Could then play Newell (or someone else) more advanced in place of J Campbell

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 05:40 PM
For me it would be

A Campbell for NMW
McCowan for Newell

Could then play Newell (or someone else) more advanced in place of J Campbell

Agree, would love to see Rudi get a chance in the more advanced midfield role.

CapitalGreen
10-08-2024, 05:45 PM
Agree, would love to see Rudi get a chance in the more advanced midfield role.

Forgot about Rudi, definitely an option in there too.

Sioux
10-08-2024, 07:12 PM
Based on tonight, Cameron might be a better bet than McCowan :cb

TrinityHibby
10-08-2024, 07:17 PM
Based on tonight, Cameron might be a better bet than McCowan :cb

Dundee midfield looks really well balanced with Mo Sylla as the six and Cameron and McCowan pulling the strings ……sadly think the McCowan to Hibs ship may have sailed 😢

04Sauzee
10-08-2024, 07:26 PM
Based on tonight, Cameron might be a better bet than McCowan :cb

Think he only has a year left on his contract, Bournemouth should look to buy him and find a club to put him out on loan to 🤪

GreenPJ
10-08-2024, 07:32 PM
Dundee midfield looks really well balanced with Mo Sylla as the six and Cameron and McCowan pulling the strings ……sadly think the McCowan to Hibs ship may have sailed 😢

On what basis?

He's here!
10-08-2024, 07:36 PM
On what basis?

That a move to Hibs isn't a step up for him based on the current prowess of both teams?

Highly unlikely we'll be 3-0 up on Hearts going on 5-0 any day soon.

SaulGoodman
10-08-2024, 07:41 PM
That a move to Hibs isn't a step up for him based on the current prowess of both teams?

Highly unlikely we'll be 3-0 up on Hearts going on 5-0 any day soon.

Come on, Dundee to Hibs is still a step up no matter how both teams are playing at the moment

Bridge hibs
10-08-2024, 07:52 PM
That a move to Hibs isn't a step up for him based on the current prowess of both teams?

Highly unlikely we'll be 3-0 up on Hearts going on 5-0 any day soon.

Bollox, hibs are more likely to play in europe, more likely to win a cup, more likely to finish above Dundee, more likely to pay bigger wages, more likely to better Dundees average gates of 4000 and more likely the sun will shine on Leith 👍

Brightside
10-08-2024, 08:02 PM
That a move to Hibs isn't a step up for him based on the current prowess of both teams?

Highly unlikely we'll be 3-0 up on Hearts going on 5-0 any day soon.

Stop it now.

ErinGoBraghHFC
10-08-2024, 08:03 PM
Come on, Dundee to Hibs is still a step up no matter how both teams are playing at the moment

If Dundee won the league, Hibs would still be a step up on them. I don’t mean that to be disrespectful but to compare the two clubs in terms of prestige is like comparing hamburgers with Wagyu steak.


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Since452
10-08-2024, 08:05 PM
That a move to Hibs isn't a step up for him based on the current prowess of both teams?

Highly unlikely we'll be 3-0 up on Hearts going on 5-0 any day soon.

Dundee to Hibs will always be a step up. Yes, Dundee are the better team right now but Hibs are a vastly bigger club. Form is temporary and we'll quickly be a better team than them again, especially if we sign their captain.

He's here!
10-08-2024, 08:11 PM
Dundee to Hibs will always be a step up. Yes, Dundee are the better team right now but Hibs are a vastly bigger club. Form is temporary and we'll quickly be a better team than them again, especially if we sign their captain.

I don't mean we're not the bigger club, just that he may feel he can achieve more with Dundee than Hibs at present, which may set him up for a bigger move outwith Scotland.

Docherty's done a great job there and put together a side which is on more of an upward trajectory than us right now.

Unseen work
10-08-2024, 08:22 PM
Footballs a funny old game isn’t it.

Last week hearts were going to split the old firm and the right back Taylor was the best player to ever grace the SPFL and everyone was praising the recruitment team.

One week on they get pumped 3-1 by Dundee and Taylor scores an own goal.

It’s a long season.

We’re making improvements all over the pitch and our signing approach at least appears to have improved

Let’s support SDG and the team and see how we get on

04Sauzee
10-08-2024, 08:28 PM
Footballs a funny old game isn’t it.

Last week hearts were going to split the old firm and the right back Taylor was the best player to ever grace the SPFL and everyone was praising the recruitment team.

One week on they get pumped 3-1 by Dundee and Taylor scores an own goal.

It’s a long season.

We’re making improvements all over the pitch and our signing approach at least appears to have improved

Let’s support SDG and the team and see how we get on

For all the work Hearts have done in the window their fans reckon they are still about 4 players short. I reckon Hearts will still be busy in the window with ins and outs. Hopefully we will have more movement next week as well.

TrinityHibby
10-08-2024, 08:30 PM
That a move to Hibs isn't a step up for him based on the current prowess of both teams?

Highly unlikely we'll be 3-0 up on Hearts going on 5-0 any day soon.


That was my point….most pundits and non Hibs supporters see it as sideways

B.H.F.C
10-08-2024, 08:32 PM
For all the work Hearts have done in the window their fans reckon they are still about 4 players short. I reckon Hearts will still be busy in the window with ins and outs. Hopefully we will have more movement next week as well.

I think they’ve went for quantity when they should have went for 2 or 3 real quality players . They didn’t need to sign 9 or whatever it is so far, they were miles ahead.

B.H.F.C
10-08-2024, 08:33 PM
I don't mean we're not the bigger club, just that he may feel he can achieve more with Dundee than Hibs at present, which may set him up for a bigger move outwith Scotland.

Docherty's done a great job there and put together a side which is on more of an upward trajectory than us right now.

He’ll never achieve more at Dundee than he’d have the chance to at Hibs. And we’d pay him more.

Scotty Leither
10-08-2024, 08:40 PM
That was my point….most pundits and non Hibs supporters see it as sideways

**** the pundits, they never miss a chance to stick it to us. His signing would be worth the seethe alone.

Springbank
10-08-2024, 09:05 PM
I watched the Dundee commentary & 2 things stood out

1) at full time they were saying they see Hibs as having the same resources as hearts & how today's result will give Dundee confidence for what will be a tough game vs us in a couple of weeks

2) brilliant commentary at the opening goal
"Oh the mistake from zander Clark has put it on a plate...and Scott Tiffoney says thanks very much for breakfast. One nil"

Paul1642
10-08-2024, 09:17 PM
I watched the Dundee commentary & 2 things stood out

1) at full time they were saying they see Hibs as having the same resources as hearts & how today's result will give Dundee confidence for what will be a tough game vs us in a couple of weeks

Despite the current form, on paper we have better players than Dundee in almost every position on the pitch. Unfortunately despite this they are coming off a great win vs hearts whilst we are recovering from an unexpected collapse against St Mirren.

They work well as a team but if we can get ourselves together we should be more than capable of getting our season on track with a win against them.

TrinityHibby
10-08-2024, 09:19 PM
Despite the current form, on paper we have better players than Dundee in almost every position on the pitch. Unfortunately despite this they are coming off a great win vs hearts whilst we are recovering from an unexpected collapse against St Mirren.

They work well as a team but if we can get ourselves together we should be more than capable of getting our season on track with a win against them.

Have you watched our midfield for the past few seasons? ……games are won and lost there and theirs operates way better than ours

K-Zazu
10-08-2024, 09:34 PM
I think we should just buy the entire Dundee midfield, problem solved.

Ozyhibby
10-08-2024, 09:35 PM
Have you watched our midfield for the past few seasons? ……games are won and lost there and theirs operates way better than ours

That’s why we want their midfielder. Our signings look decent this summer but midfield has still to be upgraded. Hopefully we get it done.


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CapitalGreen
10-08-2024, 09:45 PM
I don't mean we're not the bigger club, just that he may feel he can achieve more with Dundee than Hibs at present, which may set him up for a bigger move outwith Scotland.

Docherty's done a great job there and put together a side which is on more of an upward trajectory than us right now.

McCowan wants the move to Hibs.

HendoDelivered
10-08-2024, 09:46 PM
McCowan wants the move to Hibs.

Good source?

TrinityHibby
10-08-2024, 10:02 PM
I think we should just buy the entire Dundee midfield, problem solved.

it would be :thumbsup:

TrinityHibby
10-08-2024, 10:06 PM
McCowan wants the move to Hibs.

Would be delighted if that was true but still have little faith the deal will happen …..Dundee don’t want to sell to Hibs and Hibs aren’t prepared to offer enough to tempt them to sell

K-Zazu
10-08-2024, 10:09 PM
it would be :thumbsup:

Definitely 😃

neil7908
10-08-2024, 10:21 PM
Would be delighted if that was true but still have little faith the deal will happen …..Dundee don’t want to sell to Hibs and Hibs aren’t prepared to offer enough to tempt them to sell

Zero inside knowledge but I think he'll go, just to a club down south with deeper pockets than us. Teams in the English Championship will have no issues paying a £600k or whatever for a player and can easily beat us on wages.

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 11:00 PM
For all the work Hearts have done in the window their fans reckon they are still about 4 players short. I reckon Hearts will still be busy in the window with ins and outs. Hopefully we will have more movement next week as well.

Think most teams in our league will be. Certainly us, them, Aberdeen and the uglies. Plenty movement will happen in the next few weeks.

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 11:02 PM
McCowan wants the move to Hibs.

Then he knows how to make it happen, hand it in.

JohnM1875
10-08-2024, 11:03 PM
Zero inside knowledge but I think he'll go, just to a club down south with deeper pockets than us. Teams in the English Championship will have no issues paying a £600k or whatever for a player and can easily beat us on wages.

Could surely have said the same for Bursik, O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Myko and Bowie. Yet they all ended up here.

Northernhibee
11-08-2024, 04:18 AM
Then he knows how to make it happen, hand it in.

Didn’t work out for Rangers when Scott Allan tried that with us. We’re going to need to spend a bit more than what we want on this one but it’ll be worth it IMO.

scm70nyd1973
11-08-2024, 05:51 AM
You never know ,sometimes the unlikely can happen .

Yes - I give you Sir Albert 👍

Jim44
11-08-2024, 07:44 AM
I think one of two things might happen. We put on a good performance against Celtic, not necessarily winning, and he sees the potential of a move to us. If we get humped, he’ll stay put, seeing the potential of playing with a more successful team and a future move to England which that could bring.

JimBHibees
11-08-2024, 07:52 AM
Footballs a funny old game isn’t it.

Last week hearts were going to split the old firm and the right back Taylor was the best player to ever grace the SPFL and everyone was praising the recruitment team.

One week on they get pumped 3-1 by Dundee and Taylor scores an own goal.

It’s a long season.

We’re making improvements all over the pitch and our signing approach at least appears to have improved

Let’s support SDG and the team and see how we get on

Good post amazing what a week can do. Let’s get a result today and suddenly everything isn’t quite as bleak.

Callum_62
11-08-2024, 07:52 AM
I think one of two things might happen. We put on a good performance against Celtic, not necessarily winning, and he sees the potential of a move to us. If we get humped, he’ll stay put, seeing the potential of playing with a more successful team and a future move to England which that could bring.I doubt our performance or result today will have any bearing in McCowan wanting to come to us (or not)

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Hibernian Verse
11-08-2024, 08:18 AM
I think one of two things might happen. We put on a good performance against Celtic, not necessarily winning, and he sees the potential of a move to us. If we get humped, he’ll stay put, seeing the potential of playing with a more successful team and a future move to England which that could bring.

If you look at Hearts end to the season and pre-season matches yesterday shouldn’t be too much of a shock to anyone. They played well against Rangers, yes, but they have been conceding goals and not scoring many for almost a whole round of fixtures (8 games I believe), and lost to Fleetwood and Leyton Orient comprehensively during the summer.

Dundee were good but Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen have a higher ceiling and any ambitious player will know that and back themselves to help whichever club it is reach it.

Alex Trager
11-08-2024, 08:20 AM
I remain without a season ticket so far. If we buy LM and Allan Campbell I will buy one. I have been waiting for some sort of inspiration since they went on sale, that would definitely fall into the inspiration bucket.

Beyond me personally, I truly believe that they two would transform our team, and fire us back to where we should be.

He's here!
11-08-2024, 08:21 AM
He’ll never achieve more at Dundee than he’d have the chance to at Hibs. And we’d pay him more.

That may be true but I'm talking more about whether he sees another season at Dundee, keeping his profile high for a bigger move, as more beneficial than signing a long term deal at another Scottish club which isn't, at present, looking likely to do any better than Dundee this season.

Since90+2
11-08-2024, 08:25 AM
That may be true but I'm talking more about whether he sees another season at Dundee, keeping his profile high for a bigger move, as more beneficial than signing a long term deal at another Scottish club which isn't, at present, looking likely to do any better than Dundee this season.

We've played 1 game this season. With our recent signings I'd say there's a fair chance we'll finish above Dundee.

They did pump Hearts though who you've told us constantly will finish 3rd, so good on them for that.

MWHIBBIES
11-08-2024, 08:30 AM
I remain without a season ticket so far. If we buy LM and Allan Campbell I will buy one. I have been waiting for some sort of inspiration since they went on sale, that would definitely fall into the inspiration bucket.

Beyond me personally, I truly believe that they two would transform our team, and fire us back to where we should be.

Will you give it back up if we sign them and are still rubbish?

greenlex
11-08-2024, 08:30 AM
That may be true but I'm talking more about whether he sees another season at Dundee, keeping his profile high for a bigger move, as more beneficial than signing a long term deal at another Scottish club which isn't, at present, looking likely to do any better than Dundee this season.
Unless he gets a new deal at Dundee with enhanced wages he will move.

Allant1981
11-08-2024, 08:48 AM
That may be true but I'm talking more about whether he sees another season at Dundee, keeping his profile high for a bigger move, as more beneficial than signing a long term deal at another Scottish club which isn't, at present, looking likely to do any better than Dundee this season.

One game into the season is far to early to say how the season will go, and he will get far more exposure playing for hibs than dundee, regardless of how crap we have been recently

Alex Trager
11-08-2024, 08:55 AM
Will you give it back up if we sign them and are still rubbish?

😂

Probably!

I’ll see. Maybe I’ll say in January ‘I’m no going back unless they sign X’.

Na in all seriousness, I’m in no rush to buy one currently. I don’t trust them, they’ve had my cash for years and we’ve been poor - it’s enough now.

7Hero
11-08-2024, 09:16 AM
I think one of two things might happen. We put on a good performance against Celtic, not necessarily winning, and he sees the potential of a move to us. If we get humped, he’ll stay put, seeing the potential of playing with a more successful team and a future move to England which that could bring.

The result will have no bearing on whether he signs or not... If there isn't a bigger interested party and we are lining Dundee and his pockets suitably to both expectations then he'll be signing.

Ronniekirk
11-08-2024, 09:32 AM
I can’t see them agreeing to let him come to us before they play us If Celtic beat us today which is likely , they would then have the incentive of coming to Easter Rd knowing a win sees them seven points ahead of us It’s a no brainer for them to hang onto him till after that imo

Centre Hawf
11-08-2024, 09:40 AM
I can’t see them agreeing to let him come to us before they play us If Celtic beat us today which is likely , they would then have the incentive of coming to Easter Rd knowing a win sees them seven points ahead of us It’s a no brainer for them to hang onto him till after that imo

I think additionally I could see this move happening on deadline day after their game with St Mirren. Mostly so they can try and get few wins on the board and through the league cup next week, but also to allow themselves time to find a decent replacement.

bod
11-08-2024, 09:43 AM
😂

Probably!

I’ll see. Maybe I’ll say in January ‘I’m no going back unless they sign X’.

Na in all seriousness, I’m in no rush to buy one currently. I don’t trust them, they’ve had my cash for years and we’ve been poor - it’s enough now.

Not a dig but it’s just another reason folk use not to buy a season ticket or buy a ticket
Not signed good players
Still got bad players
Don’t like the manager
Food crap & over priced
No trust in the board
Will watch on an illegal stream
Folks reasons for not going are endless
Hope to see you at hampden for a cup final though

GloryGlory
11-08-2024, 10:17 AM
I think additionally I could see this move happening on deadline day after their game with St Mirren. Mostly so they can try and get few wins on the board and through the league cup next week, but also to allow themselves time to find a decent replacement.

Doesn't give them a lot of time to bring in a replacement if they leave it to deadline day.

Unseen work
11-08-2024, 10:23 AM
Doesn't give them a lot of time to bring in a replacement if they leave it to deadline day.

I think they’ll be waiting to bring in Scott Fraser before they allow him to leave

MWHIBBIES
11-08-2024, 10:30 AM
😂

Probably!

I’ll see. Maybe I’ll say in January ‘I’m no going back unless they sign X’.

Na in all seriousness, I’m in no rush to buy one currently. I don’t trust them, they’ve had my cash for years and we’ve been poor - it’s enough now.

Aye no problem. We'll keep supporting in the meantime time so you have a club to come back to when you fancy it.

easty
11-08-2024, 10:32 AM
Doesn't give them a lot of time to bring in a replacement if they leave it to deadline day.

They’ll already have players lined up I’d imagine.

Springbank
11-08-2024, 10:34 AM
Watched a wee bit of Motherwell v Tenant FC at Hampden & Lennon Miller continues to impress.

Surprised you don't hear transfer rumours of any sort (ie to us or England) about him, oHara, Sylla.

Saying that I think Allan Campbell & Luke MC would be v good signings, in the area of the pitch that decides games

GloryGlory
11-08-2024, 10:59 AM
They’ll already have players lined up I’d imagine.

Yeah but with negotiations at the last minute there's always the chance of a hiccup leaving no time to sort things out.

Eyrie
11-08-2024, 11:15 AM
Yeah but with negotiations at the last minute there's always the chance of a hiccup leaving no time to sort things out.

Or you have to pay more than you think the player is worth because it's too late to bring in an alternative.

Alex Trager
11-08-2024, 12:29 PM
This midfield has alarm bells all over it, as it ALWAYS does with the likes of Newell and Campbell in it.

Neither are good enough for this club.

1875Sean
11-08-2024, 01:05 PM
A lot of chat on sky about Vente going this window, I know it’s not really worked out but not heard him being linked away before, I wonder if he will go back to roda or another Dutch club?

Heisenberg
11-08-2024, 01:07 PM
A lot of chat on sky about Vente going this window, I know it’s not really worked out but not heard him being linked away before, I wonder if he will go back to roda or another Dutch club?

I’d be shocked if he stayed given the supposed outlay on Bowie. Sell him and invest all we can on a brand new midfield.

GloryGlory
11-08-2024, 01:16 PM
I’d be shocked if he stayed given the supposed outlay on Bowie. Sell him and invest all we can on a brand new midfield.

Doubt anyone would pay much for him. Makeweight in a deal for another player?

Unseen work
11-08-2024, 01:43 PM
Time to have serious conversations about Boyle

Slow, over runs the ball, runs into trouble and just doesn’t look a threat

Maybe better suited to a spot on bench and coming on as an impact player

SHODAN
11-08-2024, 01:52 PM
Time to have serious conversations about Boyle

Slow, over runs the ball, runs into trouble and just doesn’t look a threat

Maybe better suited to a spot on bench and coming on as an impact player

Cadden/Hoilett ostensibly the replacement.

Stuart93
11-08-2024, 02:32 PM
At least all these quality players become available at the end of the window

We can forgive our Hibernian overlords that we’re on 0/6 currently

Ozyhibby
11-08-2024, 02:41 PM
Time to have serious conversations about Boyle

Slow, over runs the ball, runs into trouble and just doesn’t look a threat

Maybe better suited to a spot on bench and coming on as an impact player

He only has a year left on his deal and that should be it. He is not our main concern just now though. He’ll still contribute positively this season. There should be no extension on his contract though.

Sign a new midfield and I think we have a chance of third. Don’t and we have a chance that David Gray gets sacked. It’s that important.


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Tyler Durden
11-08-2024, 02:45 PM
Time to have serious conversations about Boyle

Slow, over runs the ball, runs into trouble and just doesn’t look a threat

Maybe better suited to a spot on bench and coming on as an impact player

If we could let Boyle go and use his wages on a quality CM, I’d do it without hesitation.

Rubbish again today

J-C
11-08-2024, 03:18 PM
Boyle isn't influencing games any more and that's the concern, when he's not doing that then the question must be asked, is he worth his so called £7.5K per week, is he's hankering for a move to Australia, maybe now is the time to let him leave.

04Sauzee
11-08-2024, 03:28 PM
Our Hibs Central pal reckons there will be another one in soon. No names or position mentioned though.

Callum_62
11-08-2024, 03:32 PM
Our Hibs Central pal reckons there will be another one in soon. No names or position mentioned though.Taken straight from PM board

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GloryGlory
11-08-2024, 03:37 PM
Our Hibs Central pal reckons there will be another one in soon. No names or position mentioned though.

The guy that was on trial for a week - Hodge?

1875Sean
11-08-2024, 03:55 PM
Our Hibs Central pal reckons there will be another one in soon. No names or position mentioned though.

All you had to do is watch the build up, sure mackay said we have 8 in and looking to have another of couple

04Sauzee
11-08-2024, 04:07 PM
All you had to do is watch the build up, sure mackay said we have 8 in and looking to have another of couple

Was travelling to the game then sitting in the FF upper so kind off missed it. Hopefully get them in early in the week then more time we can work with them then better.

Hibees1973
11-08-2024, 05:13 PM
Boyle isn't influencing games any more and that's the concern, when he's not doing that then the question must be asked, is he worth his so called £7.5K per week, is he's hankering for a move to Australia, maybe now is the time to let him leave.

Exactly.

I've heard one or two rumours about a lack of professionalism on the part of Boyle at the club in the last month or so. They are only rumours but it was odd for me when Gray came out and announced he was giving Boyle more responsibility in the squad. Maybe it was reverse psychology on the part of Gray to get more out of him, but is a bit of a risk.

I've now come round to Boyle being moved on along with Youan.

Both are now lazy wide, bit part players on good wages, who are one trick ponies and we would be better off moving them on.

bordergreen
11-08-2024, 05:38 PM
All you had to do is watch the build up, sure mackay said we have 8 in and looking to have another of couple

Hope we are getting two in the midfield

flash
11-08-2024, 06:07 PM
Exactly.

I've heard one or two rumours about a lack of professionalism on the part of Boyle at the club in the last month or so. They are only rumours but it was odd for me when Gray came out and announced he was giving Boyle more responsibility in the squad. Maybe it was reverse psychology on the part of Gray to get more out of him, but is a bit of a risk.

I've now come round to Boyle being moved on along with Youan.

Both are now lazy wide, bit part players on good wages, who are one trick ponies and we would be better off moving them on.

How is Youan a "one trick pony"?

Cabbage-Patch
11-08-2024, 07:45 PM
So this is how I assess our "rebuild" so far

Keepers

Bursik has looked shaky to say the least been at fault for at least 2 of the we have conceded so far. Not seen enough of Smith but he was clearly signed as back up to Bursik so not hopeful

Defence

Big Marv has been shocking and looks lost at the pace of the Scottish game. Two shocking pass backs in the opening two games has lost us 2 goals. Rocky has to start next week with Ohora. Hopefully we can punt Harbottle and get another CB in before the window closes


Midfield

Pish, soft centred.We haven't improved it and it shows.Newell and Campbell as our starting centre mids will get us relegated. They are so easy to play through teams must be delighted to see thier names on the team sheet. We need 3 midfielders in minimum. A creative play maker and holding midfielder ideally. Get the likes of Kenneh and JDH off the books

Strikers

Bowie looks like he could be a decent signing but it's very very early days. Myko miles off it and shows he's hardly kicked a ball in a year. Needs minutes but hopefully form will come. Vente bereft of confidence. Saw him smiling to himself after celtic scored thier second whilst he was warming up. I wouldn't be surprised if he's loaned out and we bring another striker in.

2 games in and we are genuinely worried about relegation. Absolute laugh being a hibs fan eh

Callum_62
11-08-2024, 08:02 PM
So this is how I assess our "rebuild" so far

Keepers

Bursik has looked shaky to say the least been at fault for at least 2 of the we have conceded so far. Not seen enough of Smith but he was clearly signed as back up to Bursik so not hopeful

Defence

Big Marv has been shocking and looks lost at the pace of the Scottish game. Two shocking pass backs in the opening two games has lost us 2 goals. Rocky has to start next week with Ohora. Hopefully we can punt Harbottle and get another CB in before the window closes


Midfield

Pish, soft centred.We haven't improved it and it shows.Newell and Campbell as our starting centre mids will get us relegated. They are so easy to play through teams must be delighted to see thier names on the team sheet. We need 3 midfielders in minimum. A creative play maker and holding midfielder ideally. Get the likes of Kenneh and JDH off the books

Strikers

Bowie looks like he could be a decent signing but it's very very early days. Myko miles off it and shows he's hardly kicked a ball in a year. Needs minutes but hopefully form will come. Vente bereft of confidence. Saw him smiling to himself after celtic scored thier second whilst he was warming up. I wouldn't be surprised if he's loaned out and we bring another striker in.

2 games in and we are genuinely worried about relegation. Absolute laugh being a hibs fan ehBlaming marvs bad pass back today for celtics 2nd goal is a bit much [emoji1787]

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Chorley Hibee
11-08-2024, 08:07 PM
I'd happily pay Boyle's airfare to Australia right now.

He's currently stealing a wage (a very large sum) for what he's contributing.

His attitude, on the pitch, seems well off too.

HibbyAndy
11-08-2024, 08:08 PM
I'd happily pay Boyle's airfare to Australia right now.

He's currently stealing a wage (a very large sum) for what he's contributing.

His attitude, on the pitch, seems well off too.


He can go and take Josh Campbell with him

Unseen work
11-08-2024, 08:19 PM
https://x.com/tomhwilliams23/status/1822715903722885467?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Sign them all

04Sauzee
11-08-2024, 08:30 PM
https://x.com/tomhwilliams23/status/1822715903722885467?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Sign them all

Darnell Johnson 👀👀

LunasBoots
11-08-2024, 08:30 PM
I'd happily pay Boyle's airfare to Australia right now.

He's currently stealing a wage (a very large sum) for what he's contributing.

His attitude, on the pitch, seems well off too.

Something isn't quite right with Boyler I've got to say.

Had one moment in the game, I'm used to Boyle getting the ball and driving but he doesn't appear to be able to do that anymore, not really looked the same for well over a season now.

ErinGoBraghHFC
11-08-2024, 08:32 PM
https://x.com/tomhwilliams23/status/1822715903722885467?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Sign them all

Ravel Morrison


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JohnM1875
11-08-2024, 08:32 PM
Something isn't quite right with Boyler I've got to say.

Had one moment in the game, I'm used to Boyle getting the ball and driving but he doesn't appear to be able to do that anymore, not really looked the same for well over a season now.

He genuinely looks like he doesn't want to be here.

marinello59
11-08-2024, 08:34 PM
He genuinely looks like he doesn't want to be here.

I don’t think that’s the case. He’s just lost that amazing pace he had. Injuries and time catching up.

Donnchadh1875
11-08-2024, 08:46 PM
Frustrating, as it seems oblivious to everyone what the team needs. It's very easy for me to say this as I've not been a regular poster on here. But I had been saying that Boyles' days at Hibs were coming to an end and I would have been moving him on before Youan. It looks like now that they could both do with moving on. I don't think we're a million miles off. We just need that change of personality in midfield. We need a heartbeat and creativity that is sadly lacking.


I had also said that signing league 2 defenders wasn't the greatest move and I got Rob Jones thrown in my face. All I was saying was we were promised a game changer by Ben Kensell that the Black Knights had come in, but yet we're signing league 2 defenders and a loan keeper and a reserve keeper. Why bring in loan players during the summer window? I realise it makes sense in January, but now?


Bowie gives me hope and hopefully SDG will get to bring in some quality soon but what happens if we're still pish who's to blame then? Will they sack SDG and give the gig to Malky?

ddoc
11-08-2024, 09:24 PM
Frustrating, as it seems oblivious to everyone what the team needs. It's very easy for me to say this as I've not been a regular poster on here. But I had been saying that Boyles' days at Hibs were coming to an end and I would have been moving him on before Youan. It looks like now that they could both do with moving on. I don't think we're a million miles off. We just need that change of personality in midfield. We need a heartbeat and creativity that is sadly lacking.


I had also said that signing league 2 defenders wasn't the greatest move and I got Rob Jones thrown in my face. All I was saying was we were promised a game changer by Ben Kensell that the Black Knights had come in, but yet we're signing league 2 defenders and a loan keeper and a reserve keeper. Why bring in loan players during the summer window? I realise it makes sense in January, but now?


Bowie gives me hope and hopefully SDG will get to bring in some quality soon but what happens if we're still pish who's to blame then? Will they sack SDG and give the gig to Malky?


It is a conspiracy and this was the plan all along. They knew that putting MM in as manager straight of the bat would cause an uproar, so appoint SDG, chuck in a few token signings that are not up to scratch, watch it all go down the toilet, then SDG out and MM in. No complaints from the support as we are in a state of desperation and will accept almost anything.:wink:

LaMotta
11-08-2024, 09:38 PM
Frustrating, as it seems oblivious to everyone what the team needs. It's very easy for me to say this as I've not been a regular poster on here. But I had been saying that Boyles' days at Hibs were coming to an end and I would have been moving him on before Youan. It looks like now that they could both do with moving on. I don't think we're a million miles off. We just need that change of personality in midfield. We need a heartbeat and creativity that is sadly lacking.


I had also said that signing league 2 defenders wasn't the greatest move and I got Rob Jones thrown in my face. All I was saying was we were promised a game changer by Ben Kensell that the Black Knights had come in, but yet we're signing league 2 defenders and a loan keeper and a reserve keeper. Why bring in loan players during the summer window? I realise it makes sense in January, but now?


Bowie gives me hope and hopefully SDG will get to bring in some quality soon but what happens if we're still pish who's to blame then? Will they sack SDG and give the gig to Malky?

We've only signed one league 2 defender and he has been good so far.

Donnchadh1875
11-08-2024, 09:46 PM
We've only signed one league 2 defender and he has been good so far.



Forgive me if Blackpool are not league 2, but I think you get what I was saying. We were promised a game changer, and yet we were shopping in the lower leagues down south.

Iain G
11-08-2024, 09:51 PM
Forgive me if Blackpool are not league 2, but I think you get what I was saying. We were promised a game changer, and yet we were shopping in the lower leagues down south.

Yet just signed a player from the "top" league down south on a permanent deal!

Jim44
11-08-2024, 10:02 PM
It is a conspiracy and this was the plan all along. They knew that putting MM in as manager straight of the bat would cause an uproar, so appoint SDG, chuck in a few token signings that are not up to scratch, watch it all go down the toilet, then SDG out and MM in. No complaints from the support as we are in a state of desperation and will accept almost anything.:wink:

:faf:

007
11-08-2024, 10:07 PM
Good to see that Bojan is Mioffski.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1822671820459262151

HendoDelivered
11-08-2024, 10:09 PM
Good to see that Bojan is Mioffski.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1822671820459262151

They’ll pocked good money for him.

Donnchadh1875
11-08-2024, 10:16 PM
Yet just signed a player from the "top" league down south on a permanent deal!

I'm not saying that Bowie isn't going to be a good signing. I think anybody can make up their own agenda and take out of context what anybody says on here.

I could come back at you and say he was playing for Northampton but I won't because I think he's a good signing.

I've posted something that some other guy said thank goodness for me stating what loads of people on here had said.

OK, fair enough. It's just my view. Will I grab my coat and sit in the corner again and just watch as you all start with each other.

Don't think there's any need. But carry on...

Smartie
11-08-2024, 10:19 PM
Frustrating, as it seems oblivious to everyone what the team needs. It's very easy for me to say this as I've not been a regular poster on here. But I had been saying that Boyles' days at Hibs were coming to an end and I would have been moving him on before Youan. It looks like now that they could both do with moving on. I don't think we're a million miles off. We just need that change of personality in midfield. We need a heartbeat and creativity that is sadly lacking.


I had also said that signing league 2 defenders wasn't the greatest move and I got Rob Jones thrown in my face. All I was saying was we were promised a game changer by Ben Kensell that the Black Knights had come in, but yet we're signing league 2 defenders and a loan keeper and a reserve keeper. Why bring in loan players during the summer window? I realise it makes sense in January, but now?


Bowie gives me hope and hopefully SDG will get to bring in some quality soon but what happens if we're still pish who's to blame then? Will they sack SDG and give the gig to Malky?

I know I’m going to get shot down for this but the 2 league games we’ve had so far are of the more difficult variety. We were also always going to be in a bit of a state following some of the decisions during the second half of last season - punting Monty, waiting to appoint MacKay, waiting to appoint Gray. Having a credible team to start the league season was a big ask from there.

So far I don’t fancy the keeper much. I like the understudy even less.

The centre-halves I think will be perfectly acceptable for taking on the majority of the teams in this league, even if Ekpiteta has had a ropey start.

All the most recent arrivals have adequate credentials and I refuse to believe we won’t improve the midfield between now and the window closing.

It’s not ideal and I hate not being prepared for stuff, situations like starting the season with the team we’ve started the season with are unforgivable. But the season is a marathon and not a sprint, and I do think we’re going to end up with the quality of squad to give us an adequate if unspectacular season.

Centre Hawf
12-08-2024, 01:04 AM
With about two weeks left of the window I think we're still in dire need of quality additions in the centre of the park. Proper marquee men like Campbell and McCowan, perhaps even a Ryan Jack if we miss out on either of the first two, that's despite the fact about 6 weeks ago I'd have been dead against him signing but we're so soft it's frightening.

Won't flog a dead horse but we also just need to find any way to get rid of Kenneh, Harbottle, Delf, JDH, Jair, off the wage bill. Take the financial hit and pay some of their wages for the rest of the season if we have to, they're clearly not wanted and not going to impact anything and it's dead money at this point. I would rather have them gone and recoup half of their wages back into the budget to pay for the three names mentioned than be stubborn and hold out for the perfect deal, but I am confident we'll find a way.

Wish list would be to get another centre back in, I'm not hugely sold on what I've seen from Ekpiteta so far and I don't think Rocky would be the answer should we find ourselves debating dropping him. I don't think we'd do it but I'd also go out and find a proper number 1 keeper as well as I'm just not sold on either one we've signed this summer.

Forza Fred
12-08-2024, 03:59 AM
For the 464th time this window I will say that Australia’s player of the year Josh Nisbet would unquestionably improve our midfield.

It appears ‘sizeism’…he’s 5’3” is the main barrier to us signing him…….certainly not ability.

Some of us are old enough to remember the skill of players like Jimmy Johnstone of Celtic and Willie Henderson of Rangers…who were admittedly one whole inch bigger than Nisbet is, but were world class footballers.

And please don’t tell me that the Scottish game was different when they played…it was and it was about 20 times rougher than it was today, and they thrived and survived because of their football skill.

Nisbet wouldn’t be any different.

Iain G
12-08-2024, 05:36 AM
I'm not saying that Bowie isn't going to be a good signing. I think anybody can make up their own agenda and take out of context what anybody says on here.

I could come back at you and say he was playing for Northampton but I won't because I think he's a good signing.

I've posted something that some other guy said thank goodness for me stating what loads of people on here had said.

OK, fair enough. It's just my view. Will I grab my coat and sit in the corner again and just watch as you all start with each other.

Don't think there's any need. But carry on...

Just noting the fact that we are not just signing players from lower leagues in England.

You don't have to go all huffy about that 🤣

MWHIBBIES
12-08-2024, 05:52 AM
Forgive me if Blackpool are not league 2, but I think you get what I was saying. We were promised a game changer, and yet we were shopping in the lower leagues down south.

And we always will. And we've signed dozens of good players from those lower leagues.

JimBHibees
12-08-2024, 06:09 AM
For the 464th time this window I will say that Australia’s player of the year Josh Nisbet would unquestionably improve our midfield.

It appears ‘sizeism’…he’s 5’3” is the main barrier to us signing him…….certainly not ability.

Some of us are old enough to remember the skill of players like Jimmy Johnstone of Celtic and Willie Henderson of Rangers…who were admittedly one whole inch bigger than Nisbet is, but were world class footballers.

And please don’t tell me that the Scottish game was different when they played…it was and it was about 20 times rougher than it was today, and they thrived and survived because of their football skill.

Nisbet wouldn’t be any different.

Agree there is no doubt he would serve up better than what was delivered yesterday

Since90+2
12-08-2024, 06:11 AM
For the 464th time this window I will say that Australia’s player of the year Josh Nisbet would unquestionably improve our midfield.

It appears ‘sizeism’…he’s 5’3” is the main barrier to us signing him…….certainly not ability.

Some of us are old enough to remember the skill of players like Jimmy Johnstone of Celtic and Willie Henderson of Rangers…who were admittedly one whole inch bigger than Nisbet is, but were world class footballers.

And please don’t tell me that the Scottish game was different when they played…it was and it was about 20 times rougher than it was today, and they thrived and survived because of their football skill.

Nisbet wouldn’t be any different.

The 2 players you've mentioned are two of the greatest to ever play in Scotland. They had genuine world class ability.

I think you might over rating this player a tad. If he was as good as made out he'd have multiple clubs clamouring for his signature.

He's got 2 caps for Australia, 1 of them off the bench. Less than Lewis Miller who is 2 years younger than him. I'd have thought the Aussies would have played him more if he was such a player.

scoopyboy
12-08-2024, 06:12 AM
For the 464th time this window I will say that Australia’s player of the year Josh Nisbet would unquestionably improve our midfield.

It appears ‘sizeism’…he’s 5’3” is the main barrier to us signing him…….certainly not ability.

Some of us are old enough to remember the skill of players like Jimmy Johnstone of Celtic and Willie Henderson of Rangers…who were admittedly one whole inch bigger than Nisbet is, but were world class footballers.

And please don’t tell me that the Scottish game was different when they played…it was and it was about 20 times rougher than it was today, and they thrived and survived because of their football skill.

Nisbet wouldn’t be any different.

Any idea why he hasn’t signed for anyone? It’s not only Hibs that can sign him after all, I would have thought by now he would have signed for someone

Paulie Walnuts
12-08-2024, 06:19 AM
The 2 players you've mentioned are two of the greatest to ever play in Scotland. They had genuine world class ability.

I think you might over rating this player a tad. If he was as good as made out he'd have multiple clubs clamouring for his signature.

He's got 2 caps for Australia, 1 of them off the bench. Less than Lewis Miller who is 2 years younger than him. I'd have thought the Aussies would have played him more if he was such a player.

I’ve seen him a handful of times and imo he’s not good enough.

Nicho87
12-08-2024, 06:32 AM
Concerned a little bit re-watching the pre match build up interview

MM said we have room for another couple

If we ain’t good enough I’d like to think there should be no restricted number, not naive enough to know it’s not limitless funds, but with the current midfield itself there is two needed. Arguably another centre half on the premise Harbottle moves on

Midfield is absolute imperative we simply cannot go on again with the same tried and failed personnel

RossScott1991
12-08-2024, 06:41 AM
The outs are at this point just as important as the ins.

We have atleast 10 players we need to try get rid of.

The build up yesterday was hard to disagree with any of this https://x.com/scotlandsky/status/1822591105122083066?s=46

Vente is another we could try offload. But I would say the getting rid of players is as important as the clear need for midfielders.

I’d even be willing to ride it out until January if it meant getting rid of all the dross and having a full reset. Try get fees for Vente and Youan to help pay some of these guys off

Harbottle
Kenneth
Jair
Mckirdy
Doyle-Hayes
Delfierre
Vente
Amos
Levitt
Youan

Are all guys I’d look to pay off / quick fire sell.

There are probably a few more I’ve missed but for time being I’d look to move on the above for the greater good long term

timewilltell
12-08-2024, 06:43 AM
I simply cannot see McCowen coming to this shambles of a club.

MWHIBBIES
12-08-2024, 06:44 AM
I simply cannot see McCowen coming to this shambles of a club.

Better players than him joined us in the championship. Money talks.

Donnchadh1875
12-08-2024, 06:44 AM
Just noting the fact that we are not just signing players from lower leagues in England.

You don't have to go all huffy about that 🤣


And I could say you don't have to go all arsey:bye:

Since452
12-08-2024, 06:47 AM
I remember LJ saying in the January of his full season that there were too many players around the training ground who were never going to contribute. We worked so hard thinning the squad and as a result had a decet 2nd half of the season. We've gone back to that, probably even worse than that. The squad is bloated full of dross that won't be anywhere near the team.

Donnchadh1875
12-08-2024, 07:00 AM
And we always will. And we've signed dozens of good players from those lower leagues.

This place is mental. I've never said we haven't. All I was saying was, if we were promised a game changer, then don't sign players from the lower leagues. That will give ammunition to others if said players are crap.

I came on here looking to photograph people for the project I'm doing. I'm really not interested in the BS. If anyone is interested, let me know.

What I will say is I've been registered on here for donkeys and always used the match day threads. I've always been somewhere and if I could get at least one bar on the phone, .net would be the place I'd come for the score, as the BBC would be slower than Colin Murdock. If I saw a Doigeinho or a Get In, or just a YASSSSS, it was better than waiting for the BBC, so if you've updated me, I thank you.

Anyway, I'm off :bye:https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.grammarcheck.net/0acb7776-0491-45f0-a906-6cbfb386a28c

The Modfather
12-08-2024, 07:01 AM
I remember LJ saying in the January of his full season that there were too many players around the training ground who were never going to contribute. We worked so hard thinning the squad and as a result had a decet 2nd half of the season. We've gone back to that, probably even worse than that. The squad is bloated full of dross that won't be anywhere near the team.

It’s a lot of Johnson’s signings that are currently causing the bloated squad. It’s one thing to talk about clearing the squad and taking steps to do it while simultaneously re-bloating the squad.

Harbottle
Kenneh
McKirdy
Vente
Tavares
Boruc

Having already moved on:

Wollacot
Marshall
Fish
Jeggo

Iain G
12-08-2024, 07:09 AM
And I could say you don't have to go all arsey:bye:

Bring factual isn't being arsey!

WestStandWillie
12-08-2024, 07:12 AM
Failure to fix the central midfield has cost managers before and I fear it'll cost DG his job.

Mind you, if he thinks Campbell and Levitt are better options than Moriah-Welsh then hell mend him.

B.H.F.C
12-08-2024, 07:13 AM
Failure to fix the central midfield has cost managers before and I fear it'll cost DG his job.

Mind you, if he thinks Campbell and Levitt are better options than Moriah-Welsh then hell mend him.

The problem is none of them are very good. Moriah-Welsh started last week and was terrible.

Heisenberg
12-08-2024, 07:17 AM
Failure to fix the central midfield has cost managers before and I fear it'll cost DG his job.

Mind you, if he thinks Campbell and Levitt are better options than Moriah-Welsh then hell mend him.

NMW is another in a long line of midfield signings that have come in and not improved the team whatsoever. He runs about a bit but that’s about it aside from the odd mental challenge that he flings himself into.

WestStandWillie
12-08-2024, 07:22 AM
NMW is another in a long line of midfield signings that have come in and not improved the team whatsoever. He runs about a bit but that’s about it aside from the odd mental challenge that he flings himself into.

He would have contributed more to the team yesterday than Levitt and Campbell put together.

Also...why's Amos not getting a look in?

.Sean.
12-08-2024, 07:26 AM
For the 464th time this window I will say that Australia’s player of the year Josh Nisbet would unquestionably improve our midfield.

It appears ‘sizeism’…he’s 5’3” is the main barrier to us signing him…….certainly not ability.

Some of us are old enough to remember the skill of players like Jimmy Johnstone of Celtic and Willie Henderson of Rangers…who were admittedly one whole inch bigger than Nisbet is, but were world class footballers.

And please don’t tell me that the Scottish game was different when they played…it was and it was about 20 times rougher than it was today, and they thrived and survived because of their football skill.

Nisbet wouldn’t be any different.Why not email the club directly to make them aware how good he is. For instance Kensells email was posted on here yesterday so I’m sure you could use that or find Ian Gordon’s? I’m being serious if he’s as good as you’ve made out all summer

B.H.F.C
12-08-2024, 07:42 AM
NMW is another in a long line of midfield signings that have come in and not improved the team whatsoever. He runs about a bit but that’s about it aside from the odd mental challenge that he flings himself into.

Been a big let down. He looked like he was going to improve things when he first came in but that was merely because he made a few tackles and ran about a bit.

We have too many midfielders who don’t have a specific role IMO. I don’t know what any of them actually are and the result is that they pretty much end up doing nothing.

Hiber-nation
12-08-2024, 07:49 AM
He would have contributed more to the team yesterday than Levitt and Campbell put together.

Also...why's Amos not getting a look in?

Take it you haven't seen Amos play? Miles off it and looks so frustrated. His performance at Kelty was an eye opener. But he is still getting over a bad injury so he has some time on his side. I'd start him over Campbell but I doubt he'd be much of an improvement, at the moment anyway.

bingo70
12-08-2024, 07:52 AM
Take it you haven't seen Amos play? Miles off it and looks so frustrated. His performance at Kelty was an eye opener. But he is still getting over a bad injury so he has some time on his side. I'd start him over Campbell but I doubt he'd be much of an improvement, at the moment anyway.

I thought Amos offered more in the short time he was on the pitch last week than Campbell or NMW did.

Looks like Gray doesn’t fancy him though, I wonder if he could be offered as part of the deal for the Dundee lad? Fits the criteria of signings Docherty appears to like.

easty
12-08-2024, 07:58 AM
For the 464th time this window I will say that Australia’s player of the year Josh Nisbet would unquestionably improve our midfield.

It appears ‘sizeism’…he’s 5’3” is the main barrier to us signing him…….certainly not ability.

Some of us are old enough to remember the skill of players like Jimmy Johnstone of Celtic and Willie Henderson of Rangers…who were admittedly one whole inch bigger than Nisbet is, but were world class footballers.

And please don’t tell me that the Scottish game was different when they played…it was and it was about 20 times rougher than it was today, and they thrived and survived because of their football skill.

Nisbet wouldn’t be any different.

The guy must have the worst agent in football, how’s he so good but currently unemployed??

Unseen work
12-08-2024, 08:15 AM
I’m struggling with the Nisbet one.

The only thing that makes sense to me is a couple of clubs are saying they’re interest and are almost leading him on. The clubs will be looking at better options and having Nisbet as a back up if that fails.

And that Nisbet is wanting to wait rather than sign for a lesser club.

Gatecrasher
12-08-2024, 08:22 AM
NMW is another in a long line of midfield signings that have come in and not improved the team whatsoever. He runs about a bit but that’s about it aside from the odd mental challenge that he flings himself into.

I thought he looked the part for a spell last season but yesterday I gave up when he came on yesterday, he just doesn't impose himself on games. Just like our whole midfield to be fair.

GloryGlory
12-08-2024, 08:28 AM
I sincerely hope Malky Mackay was on the phone first thing this morning to get the recruitment of at least two midfielders sorted and over the line. But I suspect we'll get to the end of this week with nothing to show.

It's the hope that gets you, isn't it?

Unseen work
12-08-2024, 08:34 AM
Just chuck Kenneh in the middle of the park and let him kick and head anything that moves.

Just don’t give him the ball

Easy

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 08:36 AM
I’m struggling with the Nisbet one.

The only thing that makes sense to me is a couple of clubs are saying they’re interest and are almost leading him on. The clubs will be looking at better options and having Nisbet as a back up if that fails.

And that Nisbet is wanting to wait rather than sign for a lesser club.

I watched a lot of the A league last season, think I started the thread a few seasons back. I thought Nisbet looked a stand out in every game I seen him. Could move the ball on quickly, could pass long, good carrier of the ball and had some dig about him. I'm very surprised he hasn't found a club yet tbh

In saying all the above I'm still not sure regards the level of the A league but there have been some very good players moved from there in the past.

SickBoy32
12-08-2024, 08:38 AM
I sincerely hope Malky Mackay was on the phone first thing this morning to get the recruitment of at least two midfielders sorted and over the line. But I suspect we'll get to the end of this week with nothing to show.

It's the hope that gets you, isn't it?

We need two quality centre mids, and we need them now.

Newell
JDH
Kenneh
Delferiere
Campbell
Levitt
NMW
Amos

That’s 8 centre mids we’ve got, and we still can’t pick an effective 2 or 3 man midfield.

This is the Kensell / Gordons legacy. Let’s hope they’ve no pushed us too far towards the trap door, but I fear it’s going to be a bleak season - due to our total absence of midfield. We’re in big trouble.

WestStandWillie
12-08-2024, 08:40 AM
We need two quality centre mids, and we need them now.

Newell
JDH
Kenneh
Delferiere
Campbell
Levitt
NMW
Amos

That’s 8 centre mids we’ve got, and we still can’t pick an effective 2 or 3 man midfield.

This is the Kensell / Gordons legacy. Let’s hope they’ve no pushed us too far towards the trap door, but I fear it’s going to be a bleak season - due to our total absence of midfield. We’re in big trouble.

When you see them written down it's grim.

I'm reaching the stage where i'd happily see Kenneh back

The Modfather
12-08-2024, 08:43 AM
Been a big let down. He looked like he was going to improve things when he first came in but that was merely because he made a few tackles and ran about a bit.

We have too many midfielders who don’t have a specific role IMO. I don’t know what any of them actually are and the result is that they pretty much end up doing nothing.

I think it’s time to start Amos & NMW. With either Levit or Rudi ahead of them. Give them a run of games together. We won’t learn anything new playing Newell and/or Campbell, or playing Levit alongside both.

JohnM1875
12-08-2024, 08:49 AM
I think it’s time to start Amos & NMW. With either Levit or Rudi ahead of them. Give them a run of games together. We won’t learn anything new playing Newell and/or Campbell, or playing Levit alongside both.

Surely pre-season was the time to try that?

Carheenlea
12-08-2024, 08:49 AM
My fear with NMW is that while he’s industrious and mobile, he’s maybe someone who does a lot of runnnng about without actually creating a huge amount.

The midfield needs changed, even in this period before targets are finalised, so I’d be inclined to give a start to NMW, mainly as just for changes sake.

The Modfather
12-08-2024, 08:52 AM
Surely pre-season was the time to try that?

You would have thought so. However pre season, and the preceding 4 years, should have told us that Newell & Campbell don’t work in the same midfield. Or last season telling us that replacing JDH with Levit isn’t an answer either. Yet here we are, into another season with Newell & Campbell as Grays undropables and 2/3rds of our midfield.

Brightside
12-08-2024, 08:54 AM
I watched a lot of the A league last season, think I started the thread a few seasons back. I thought Nisbet looked a stand out in every game I seen him. Could move the ball on quickly, could pass long, good carrier of the ball and had some dig about him. I'm very surprised he hasn't found a club yet tbh

In saying all the above I'm still not sure regards the level of the A league but there have been some very good players moved from there in the past.

Mccowan is the big one for us - and we are actively working on Campbell. BUT. we really need a proper no6 instead of players who don't have the bollocks to play there.

HendoDelivered
12-08-2024, 08:55 AM
Noticed Crocker saying yesterday on comms that Vente could be away this window? Think Boyd mentioned something like he’ll be surprised if he’s still here at the end of the window.

flash
12-08-2024, 08:58 AM
Mccowan is the big one for us - and we are actively working on Campbell. BUT. we really need a proper no6 instead of players who don't have the bollocks to play there.

Which ones a number 6?

The one that protects the defence?

WestStandWillie
12-08-2024, 08:59 AM
You would have thought so. However pre season, and the preceding 4 years, should have told us that Newell & Campbell don’t work in the same midfield. Or last season telling us that replacing JDH with Levit isn’t an answer either. Yet here we are, into another season with Newell & Campbell as Grays undropables and 2/3rds of our midfield.

The Brown Quadrant Of Regression

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 09:00 AM
From @anthonyrjoseph

UPDATE: Girona have agreed a deal worth £6.8m to sign Aberdeen striker Bojan Miovski.

The clubs are close to finalising the finer details of the move.

Personal terms are not expected to be a problem, with Miovski keen to join the LaLiga club who are in this year’s #UCL.

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 09:01 AM
Which ones a number 6?

The one that protects the defence?

Yip is the 6 Is predominantly a defensive midfielder an 8 is Box to Box ball carrier and a 10 is the attacking midfielder

JohnM1875
12-08-2024, 09:05 AM
From @anthonyrjoseph

UPDATE: Girona have agreed a deal worth £6.8m to sign Aberdeen striker Bojan Miovski.

The clubs are close to finalising the finer details of the move.

Personal terms are not expected to be a problem, with Miovski keen to join the LaLiga club who are in this year’s #UCL.

They've made some amount of money on transfers the past few years eh? Some going

Gordy M
12-08-2024, 09:08 AM
They've made some amount of money on transfers the past few years eh? Some going

They have, and are a prime example of why players will always aign for the likes of Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen. If you do well, you can earn a big move. All this nonsense about players not signing because we are a "shambles"........just look at Aberdeen, and they have just sold a player for close to £7 million.

B.H.F.C
12-08-2024, 09:08 AM
I think it’s time to start Amos & NMW. With either Levit or Rudi ahead of them. Give them a run of games together. We won’t learn anything new playing Newell and/or Campbell, or playing Levit alongside both.

Said similar on another thread. I’d go Amos, NMW and Molotnikov. Not because I’ve seen much from the first two but we need to completely rip up what we have in the middle of the park. Regurgitating the different combinations of the same players, in the absence of getting anyone in, isn’t going to get us anywhere. Newell won’t be dropped though.

flash
12-08-2024, 09:09 AM
Yip is the 6 Is predominantly a defensive midfielder an 8 is Box to Box ball carrier and a 10 is the attacking midfielder

Cheers that's what I thought.

hibee-boys
12-08-2024, 09:12 AM
Unfortunately there is no combination of 3 midfielders at the club that can work. Newell/Campbell and AN Other has been tried how many times now? Amos seems permanently trying to get up to speed, he’s been with the club since the beginning of the year. NMW looked exciting when he first arrived, but mainly because he looked energetic and motivated. File him under Campbell.

Levitt has been such a big disappointment, expected big things from him. Undoubtedly has talent but just doesn’t look like he wants to be here, you’d hardly notice he is on the pitch…..on the rare occasions he is! As for JDH, the forgotten man…..he was ineffective prior to being permanently injured so should he ever make an appearance there’s every chance he’ll be just as bad, or worse!

What an absolute shambles.

Souter96Mac
12-08-2024, 09:12 AM
Hoping we have another reaction this week with more signings in the door.

Whilst we've looked poor, the team looks fairly bereft of confidence too. Only have ourselves to blame but having Celtic away next isn't going to necessarily help that.

Blaster
12-08-2024, 09:15 AM
Surely pre-season was the time to try that?

We tried Levitt and Amos and lost at Kelty

bingo70
12-08-2024, 09:15 AM
Hoping we have another reaction this week with more signings in the door.

Whilst we've looked poor, the team looks fairly bereft of confidence too. Only have ourselves to blame but having Celtic away next isn't going to necessarily help that.

Lots of focus on the midfield and understandably so but I think we are going to need another defender too. From what I’ve seen so far, I wouldn’t like to rely on Ekpiteta for the season ahead, even allowing for his first couple of games being a blip and him coming onto a game, we still need cover/competition for places too.

Brightside
12-08-2024, 09:16 AM
Which ones a number 6?

The one that protects the defence?

mcgregor for Celtic. I was amazed we didn't mark him out the game like we did under Monty. We need that kind of player who is happy taking the ball from defence and moving us forward. Not just a big stopper like Marv Bartley.

Brightside
12-08-2024, 09:17 AM
You would have thought so. However pre season, and the preceding 4 years, should have told us that Newell & Campbell don’t work in the same midfield. Or last season telling us that replacing JDH with Levit isn’t an answer either. Yet here we are, into another season with Newell & Campbell as Grays undropables and 2/3rds of our midfield.

I think the short period that Rudi played in the 10 yesterday showed me enough that he should be there instead of Campbell for now.

Brightside
12-08-2024, 09:20 AM
Lots of focus on the midfield and understandably so but I think we are going to need another defender too. From what I’ve seen so far, I wouldn’t like to rely on Ekpiteta for the season ahead, even allowing for his first couple of games being a blip and him coming onto a game, we still need cover/competition for places too.

Marv is not better than Rocky for me. He can't pass a ball. Ohora is different class and should be captain.

hibsbollah
12-08-2024, 09:21 AM
Unfortunately there is no combination of 3 midfielders at the club that can work. Newell/Campbell and AN Other has been tried how many times now? Amos seems permanently trying to get up to speed, he’s been with the club since the beginning of the year. NMW looked exciting when he first arrived, but mainly because he looked energetic and motivated. File him under Campbell.

Levitt has been such a big disappointment, expected big things from him. Undoubtedly has talent but just doesn’t look like he wants to be here, you’d hardly notice he is on the pitch…..on the rare occasions he is! As for JDH, the forgotten man…..he was ineffective prior to being permanently injured so should he ever make an appearance there’s every chance he’ll be just as bad, or worse!

What an absolute shambles.

We took a chance on Amos recovering from his cruciate injuries, he only has the rest of the season left on his deal, he either returns to the level his pedigree suggests or his career starts to fizzle out, its a big year for him but Hibs haven’t risked much by rolling the dice on him. No problem at all with trying him.

Levitt has lookeda lot better recently, ive been a big critic last season but this seems like a strange time to rip into him? Moriah Welsh has been very good since he arrived, done the simple things well, was poor against St Mirren but of course having a poor game seems to be enough to be a target of the booboys at the moment. And filing him under Campbell makes no sense as they arent even vaguely playing the same role.

ShadesLongThrow
12-08-2024, 09:22 AM
I simply cannot see McCowen coming to this shambles of a club.

It’s an interesting one. There are 2 types of players. Those that look at a club with (hopefully short term) issues and think, nah I don’t fancy that because the fans will get on my back if I don’t perform. And there are those who are confident enough in their own ability and know they could come in, make a real difference and will relish the challenge. We’re looking for the latter and I think McCowan falls into that category.

Since90+2
12-08-2024, 09:25 AM
McCowan will go where he can earn the most money.

Looking at the clubs he's been at you can't imagine he's earned a massive amount and the age he is at his next contract is probably the biggest he will get. As it does in the majority of cases it will come down to the pound note.

flash
12-08-2024, 09:36 AM
My fear with NMW is that while he’s industrious and mobile, he’s maybe someone who does a lot of runnnng about without actually creating a huge amount.

The midfield needs changed, even in this period before targets are finalised, so I’d be inclined to give a start to NMW, mainly as just for changes sake.

He is still young and learning. With the engine he has he would definitely be in my starting 11 as things stand.

bingo70
12-08-2024, 09:38 AM
Marv is not better than Rocky for me. He can't pass a ball. Ohora is different class and should be captain.

Totally agree.

I think big Marvin looks absolutely hopeless so far to be honest, I was trying to be diplomatic though 😂

flash
12-08-2024, 09:43 AM
mcgregor for Celtic. I was amazed we didn't mark him out the game like we did under Monty. We need that kind of player who is happy taking the ball from defence and moving us forward. Not just a big stopper like Marv Bartley.

Unfortunately not too many Calum McGregors out there, particularly at the wages we pay.

jeffers
12-08-2024, 09:47 AM
mcgregor for Celtic. I was amazed we didn't mark him out the game like we did under Monty. We need that kind of player who is happy taking the ball from defence and moving us forward. Not just a big stopper like Marv Bartley.

Is that not what our captain is supposed to be doing ?

Greenio
12-08-2024, 09:48 AM
Marv is not better than Rocky for me. He can't pass a ball. Ohora is different class and should be captain.

Dont get the hate on Marv. He made maybe 2 mistakes. Rest of ot he was solid, if not amazing i admit.

More mobile than Rocky, although i also think he gets si gled out for a slating.

Levels of expectation are high, which is fine, bit reality bites hard

Gmack7
12-08-2024, 09:53 AM
Marv is not better than Rocky for me. He can't pass a ball. Ohora is different class and should be captain.

Marv had a very shaky start yesterday like most of the team, I felt he settled down and was fine in the 2nd half unlike most of the team. Totally agree about Ohora

richard_pitts
12-08-2024, 09:55 AM
Can we just give Dundee whatever they want? That midfield is honking.:aok:

Alex Trager
12-08-2024, 09:58 AM
Mccowan is the big one for us - and we are actively working on Campbell. BUT. we really need a proper no6 instead of players who don't have the bollocks to play there.

Campbell is a proper 6

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 10:04 AM
Campbell is a proper 6

Is that what he is , genuine question as I remember him at Motherwell and I know he had a great season in Luton's promotion winning team just thought he looked a great all rounder. Last I heard he wasn't keen on a move back to Scotland.

McGruber
12-08-2024, 10:05 AM
Can't see us getting either McCowan and Campbell tbh but it's the profile of players we need and would expect there will be alternatives by the end of the window of best fit/availability for these types from Bournemouth or somewhere else in the group

superfurryhibby
12-08-2024, 10:13 AM
Is that what he is , genuine question as I remember him at Motherwell and I know he had a great season in Luton's promotion winning team just thought he looked a great all rounder. Last I heard he wasn't keen on a move back to Scotland.

Last you heard……😀

CentreForward
12-08-2024, 10:16 AM
With that massive wedge of cash can we now assume that Aberdeen will be splashing it about a bit. McCowan and Campbell to Pittodrie this week?

CentreForward
12-08-2024, 10:18 AM
Marv had a very shaky start yesterday like most of the team, I felt he settled down and was fine in the 2nd half unlike most of the team. Totally agree about Ohora

The one positive thing is that Marv does look better in the air than Rocky. Am prepared to give him time and way too early to judge him. O’Hora certainly does look promising so far.

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 10:19 AM
With that massive wedge of cash can we now assume that Aberdeen will be splashing it about a bit. McCowan and Campbell to Pittodrie this week?

Depends, do they need them? Not being flippent I'm just not sure what positions they need to fill.

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 10:21 AM
Last you heard……😀

Ok last I seen reported

Bostonhibby
12-08-2024, 10:22 AM
Surely pre-season was the time to try that?Recently we haven't really been doing that preseason, however the results in bounce games have gone we always seem to hit the ground with a splat,get folk questioning fitness and certainly don't look to have got together a team that is ready for the first stages of the season ahead.

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EGL2000
12-08-2024, 10:28 AM
With that massive wedge of cash can we now assume that Aberdeen will be splashing it about a bit. McCowan and Campbell to Pittodrie this week?

I think they will get Campbell but not McCowan already pretty well covered in that position and signed 2 already this summer.

ruthven_raiders
12-08-2024, 10:28 AM
The one positive thing is that Marv does look better in the air than Rocky. Am prepared to give him time and way too early to judge him. O’Hora certainly does look promising so far.

His passing is not good, maybe caught out by the standard up here, first division to playing the likes of Celtic who are English premier league level.....mid table.... hopefully he adjusts...

timewilltell
12-08-2024, 10:31 AM
Better players than him joined us in the championship. Money talks.

Fair point.👍

EGL2000
12-08-2024, 10:33 AM
His passing is not good, maybe caught out by the standard up here, first division to playing the likes of Celtic who are English premier league level.....mid table.... hopefully he adjusts...

Strange thing is O'hora was playing a league below Marv and looks way more comfortable.

Joe6-2
12-08-2024, 10:35 AM
Please Hibs, get the finger out this week, it’s going to end up too late to gel and claw our way out of this hole

Forza Fred
12-08-2024, 10:36 AM
The 2 players you've mentioned are two of the greatest to ever play in Scotland. They had genuine world class ability.

I think you might over rating this player a tad. If he was as good as made out he'd have multiple clubs clamouring for his signature.

He's got 2 caps for Australia, 1 of them off the bench. Less than Lewis Miller who is 2 years younger than him. I'd have thought the Aussies would have played him more if he was such a player.

I’m not saying he is good as Johnstone and Henderson, but pointing out that the size of a player is not reason to ignore them.

He is certainly good enough to play in our midfield.

You would have to ask Arnie why he wasn’t in the Socceroo squad more…..international coaches seem to stick with their favourites.

mcfly
12-08-2024, 10:38 AM
We don’t know what hibs bid for McGowan was but if Aberdeen nip in and pay the fee Dundee want then it shows we are penny pinching.

Club needs a marquee signing desperately

Already lost 2/2 and prob zero shots on target in both games.

We are rubbish and until we can shift some of the players we don’t need we will continue to be rubbish

NC1875
12-08-2024, 10:39 AM
I’m not saying he is good as Johnstone and Henderson, but pointing out that the size of a player is not reason to ignore them.

He is certainly good enough to play in our midfield.

You would have to ask Arnie why he wasn’t in the Socceroo squad more…..international coaches seem to stick with their favourites.

Let me train for a couple of weeks and I’d be better than our midfield 😂

CentreForward
12-08-2024, 10:40 AM
His passing is not good, maybe caught out by the standard up here, first division to playing the likes of Celtic who are English premier league level.....mid table.... hopefully he adjusts...


Certainly hope he starts to adjust soon. Yesterday not easy given as you say Celtic EPL level. He does need to start cutting out the mistakes soon and really don’t want to see the fans getting on his back before he gets a proper chance.

Nicho87
12-08-2024, 10:40 AM
If that midfield ain’t sorted I can easily see another season of bottom six

It’s that bad

PatHead
12-08-2024, 10:41 AM
With that massive wedge of cash can we now assume that Aberdeen will be splashing it about a bit. McCowan and Campbell to Pittodrie this week?

Aberdeen still need to raise funds for the new stadium (if it ever gets built).

I think they will keep a lot of it to put towards that.

CentreForward
12-08-2024, 10:42 AM
Depends, do they need them? Not being flippent I'm just not sure what positions they need to fill.


Not absolutely sure what their requirements are but perhaps EGL2000 has answered that in his message #10725 above.

Brightside
12-08-2024, 10:43 AM
Is that not what our captain is supposed to be doing ?

He doesnt have the minerals. :greengrin

Jones28
12-08-2024, 10:43 AM
We don’t know what hibs bid for McGowan was but if Aberdeen nip in and pay the fee Dundee want then it shows we are penny pinching.

Club needs a marquee signing desperately

Already lost 2/2 and prob zero shots on target in both games.

We are rubbish and until we can shift some of the players we don’t need we will continue to be rubbish

It doesn't. It shows we have a fee we are willing to pay. There's a difference between penny pinching and a club asking for more than you are either willing to pay or can afford to.

We've just dropped £600,000 to sign Bowie, hardly indicative of being stingey.

Forza Fred
12-08-2024, 10:48 AM
Any idea why he hasn’t signed for anyone? It’s not only Hibs that can sign him after all, I would have thought by now he would have signed for someone

Rumour has it that he has had a couple of big offers from China, but is being advised that going there could affect his Socceroo career.

Appears most of Europe has the same ‘sizeism’ issues, but there is also a rumour of him being ‘guided’ to join a Dutch second division club, just to ensure he can get a foot in the European door, and take it from there.

04Sauzee
12-08-2024, 10:49 AM
From Scott Burns

🔴⚪️Aberdeen have had a £500,000 offer for Fulham's Scotland under-21 defender Ibane Bowat accepted. They have been given permission to open talks but LASK and Red Bull Salzburg are also in the fight.🔴⚪️

Unseen work
12-08-2024, 10:50 AM
From Scott Burns

🔴⚪️Aberdeen have had a £500,000 offer for Fulham's Scotland under-21 defender Ibane Bowat accepted. They have been given permission to open talks but LASK and Red Bull Salzburg are also in the fight.🔴⚪️

Mentioned the other day how their owner posted his name on Twitter 🤣

EGL2000
12-08-2024, 10:55 AM
Annoyingly great business from Aberdeen, fair play.

Saint Hibee
12-08-2024, 11:17 AM
Marv is not better than Rocky for me. He can't pass a ball. Ohora is different class and should be captain.

Agree with all of this. Also, Rocky's age mean he's got potential to improve, whereas I don't think Ekpiteta does. What swings it for me is Rocky's superior pace.

McGruber
12-08-2024, 11:23 AM
Agree with all of this. Also, Rocky's age mean he's got potential to improve, whereas I don't think Ekpiteta does. What swings it for me is Rocky's superior pace.

Play the 3 of them in a 3-5-2 flanked by the Caddens, Bowie & Myko up top - could it be any worse? ... answers not necessary

NGoloGrantie
12-08-2024, 11:26 AM
From Scott Burns

[emoji837]⚪️Aberdeen have had a £500,000 offer for Fulham's Scotland under-21 defender Ibane Bowat accepted. They have been given permission to open talks but LASK and Red Bull Salzburg are also in the fight.[emoji837]⚪️

Great signing for them


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Since452
12-08-2024, 11:27 AM
Annoyingly great business from Aberdeen, fair play.

The contrast between Hibs and Aberdeen is stark. Both teams were dug***** last season but there seems to be a feel good factor around that club now. They've brought in a proven manager and have started the season well. Complete opposite feeling at Hibs.

Gordy M
12-08-2024, 11:37 AM
The contrast between Hibs and Aberdeen is stark. Both teams were dug***** last season but there seems to be a feel good factor around that club now. They've brought in a proven manager and have started the season well. Complete opposite feeling at Hibs.

Well there wasnt to begin with, they struggled in a few of their League Cup games, but ended up winning, and folk were questioning the new manager(i work with a season ticket holder) they didnt play well at all. The new season, 2 good wins and they are doing ok. Its so early in the season though, lets just see where we all end up.

Hibiza
12-08-2024, 11:38 AM
We need two quality centre mids, and we need them now.

Newell
JDH
Kenneh
Delferiere
Campbell
Levitt
NMW
Amos

That’s 8 centre mids we’ve got, and we still can’t pick an effective 2 or 3 man midfield.

This is the Kensell / Gordons legacy. Let’s hope they’ve no pushed us too far towards the trap door, but I fear it’s going to be a bleak season - due to our total absence of midfield. We’re in big trouble.

Yup , let's get this lot out the building cost a lot but has to happen . Foley cash ? Bit ironic to be honest getting him to stomp up for others incompetence.

B.H.F.C
12-08-2024, 11:39 AM
Play the 3 of them in a 3-5-2 flanked by the Caddens, Bowie & Myko up top - could it be any worse? ... answers not necessary

I will start by saying that I don’t disagree with going to a back three and getting the two strikers up top together. Think it looks a fairly obvious thing to do with what we currently have.

What does concern me though is that pretty much nobody would agree on our strongest team. If you asked 50 folk there would hardly be anyone suggesting the same 11 and that’s never a good sign. More importantly, I’m not sure Gray will know it either. Concerns me that we think the answer is to simply keep signing players but we end up with no clear idea about how they fit together.

TrinityHFC
12-08-2024, 11:39 AM
The contrast between Hibs and Aberdeen is stark. Both teams were dug***** last season but there seems to be a feel good factor around that club now. They've brought in a proven manager and have started the season well. Complete opposite feeling at Hibs.

We seem to have a tendency to look more fondly at what other teams are doing.