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Brightside
12-09-2024, 03:04 PM
As if you would know Dave, seen a lot of him at Derby and Stoke have you? Thought not.
I'm not aware of your first name, perhaps you can share it so we can communicate on that level?
He is no longer a £12m player. Ergo he is nowhere near that level.
Donegal Hibby
12-09-2024, 03:18 PM
If he's anywhere near the level he was he won't be a back up.
With his age and the injuries he’s had I would have thought he would be a backup striker though there’s no doubting his quality when you see the level he’s played at in his career .
First interview here….
https://hibstv.hibernianfc.co.uk/videos/140004798
Northernhibee
12-09-2024, 03:29 PM
What? We didn't retire that number after his two goals at Motherwell?
No, he retired his goalscoring. Easy to mistake.
Just to be clear, I think he'll still be easily good enough to make an impact in the SPFL, and I hope he does obviously. But expecting the same calibre of player as he was 5-10 years ago is obviously unrealistic.
I don't think anyone does.
Wilson
12-09-2024, 03:35 PM
What? We didn't retire that number after his two goals at Motherwell?
He won't score as many as Melks. The boy is done.
With his age and the injuries he’s had I would have thought he would be a backup striker though there’s no doubting his quality when you see the level he’s played at in his career .
First interview here….
https://hibstv.hibernianfc.co.uk/videos/140004798
Speaks well, sensible and doesn't over promise, impressed with his interview. 👏
Since452
12-09-2024, 03:38 PM
He won't score as many as Melks. The boy is done.
I think he'll quite easily outscore Melkersen. Gayle, even now is a different level of player imo.
K-Zazu
12-09-2024, 03:40 PM
I'm hearing its not good news about bowie
What’s the news then?
McGruber
12-09-2024, 03:43 PM
But but but….
I thought Malky was all chat and was just saying stuff about free agents to keep fans happy and tell them what they wanted to hear?
Good signing
Doubt Malky forseen Bowie getting injured before he did tbh and think it's why we've went back to Gayle.
Hope it's a good signing obviously but these twilight signings can go either way. Always hopeful the old head signings that have played at the top level will score in the Derby- here's hoping
raeburnhibs
12-09-2024, 03:48 PM
Oi! Curb your enthusiasm.
yep, taking the thread in an unexpected direction I was re-watching the small *****/ enormous vagina episode last night, comedy genius as ever
Keepthefaith
12-09-2024, 03:50 PM
We signed an overweight immobile grant Holt not so long ago. Sure it was in the championship but he used his experience to great effect.
I'm confident with pace around him, Gayle will prove a useful signing...but time will tell!
hibsbollah
12-09-2024, 03:51 PM
I don't think anyone does.
Exactly. But ‘nowhere near’ the level he was is what was said. Its the certainty that is annoying. He might be close to that level, lost some pace, gained some nous, COULD BE a bargain buy who has a couple of seasons left…why not?
Phil MaGlass
12-09-2024, 04:13 PM
As long as hes not carrying an injury he will do fine in the SPFL.
B.H.F.C
12-09-2024, 04:16 PM
I think Gayle will do all right and chip in with a few goals as we go. Nothing major but a useful contribution which is really what you need from your third striker.
Cooshed Kid
12-09-2024, 04:23 PM
Welcome, Dwight. I hope you will have a very productive time at Hibs.
He's here!
12-09-2024, 04:31 PM
Exactly. But ‘nowhere near’ the level he was is what was said. Its the certainty that is annoying. He might be close to that level, lost some pace, gained some nous, COULD BE a bargain buy who has a couple of seasons left…why not?
Agreed. I can't see how this is anything but a very decent move into the free agent market. His career stats show that he's more than good enough for the Scottish top flight and 34 is hardly over the hill. It's certainly a timely move if it turns out Bowie's injury is going to keep him out for a good while.
Viva_Palmeiras
12-09-2024, 04:57 PM
yep, taking the thread in an unexpected direction I was re-watching the small *****/ enormous vagina episode last night, comedy genius as ever
whodda thunk it - a sexist filter !
Donegal Hibby
12-09-2024, 05:17 PM
Had a look on the derby forum about Dwight Gayle and it was mainly positive comments about him ….
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/42640-dwight-gayle/#comments
hibees 7062
12-09-2024, 05:23 PM
Maybe because 34 is his age? 😂
Hope he’s good enough to change it to 35 then eh 😜
Crab apple
12-09-2024, 05:25 PM
I think this is a positive signing given that Bowie is likely going to be out for some weeks. We've done pretty well over the years signing very experienced strikers like Archiebald, Brewster, Mixu and more recently Holt and Alf.
Gmack7
12-09-2024, 05:26 PM
Had a look on the derby forum about Dwight Gayle and it was mainly positive comments about him ….
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/42640-dwight-gayle/#comments
I've just skimmed through that, very positive comments but the final comment is about his injury issues, hopefully he's past all these, good luck Dwight
Brightside
12-09-2024, 05:27 PM
Exactly. But ‘nowhere near’ the level he was is what was said. Its the certainty that is annoying. He might be close to that level, lost some pace, gained some nous, COULD BE a bargain buy who has a couple of seasons left…why not?
Ive no idea how that would be annoying. He was a £12m striker at Newcastle in the past. To suggest he is nowhere near that is pretty bang on surely? Again that doesnt mean he wont be good enough to perform well for Hibs.
JohnM1875
12-09-2024, 05:28 PM
I've just skimmed through that, very positive comments but the final comment is about his injury issues, hopefully he's past all these, good luck Dwight
He's almost 35, not much chance he'll be over the injuries I'd reckon. If we can get a season out of him though then I'm sure he'll contribute well.
Hibiza
12-09-2024, 05:31 PM
Welcome Dwight.
Spike Mandela
12-09-2024, 06:44 PM
He'll be company for Hoilett in the McGeady/Le Fondre wing of the treatment room.:greengrin
greenpaper55
12-09-2024, 06:45 PM
He's almost 35, not much chance he'll be over the injuries I'd reckon. If we can get a season out of him though then I'm sure he'll contribute well.
Two years younger than Vardy.
Tambo
12-09-2024, 06:55 PM
A lot of good experience at a high level, keep him fit and hopefully he can contribute something.
Cabbage-Patch
12-09-2024, 06:58 PM
Had a look on the derby forum about Dwight Gayle and it was mainly positive comments about him ….
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/42640-dwight-gayle/#comments
"We all knew about Gayles hamstring problems when we signed him. They were described as being like Piano wire. Just the same as Waghorn’s and Jules .Washington has a long history of fitness issues. None of us should be suprised"
Pretty positive tbh and I'm quite excited by this one but the above comment gives me the fear. Assume that's why he only played 6 games for Derby?
wookie70
12-09-2024, 07:16 PM
Exactly. But ‘nowhere near’ the level he was is what was said. Its the certainty that is annoying. He might be close to that level, lost some pace, gained some nous, COULD BE a bargain buy who has a couple of seasons left…why not?
Looking at his stats the season before last he didn't do well in the Championship. The season after he was injured most of the season but did score at a very good level in the very small amount of games he played. That would be my expectation. He will maybe be able to play really well at a level slightly below us but only for the odd game. If he stays fit he may do OK but I'm expecting Commons and McGeady type contribution rather than Mixu. Hope he is on pay per play
NORTHERNHIBBY
12-09-2024, 07:51 PM
Gayle won't have the engine or the legs to be making runs or pulling defenders out of position , but if the ball drops to him inside the box, I think he'll put most of his chances away. Maybe doing what Vente didn't.
HFC93
12-09-2024, 08:10 PM
Taken Melkersen's old number, some statement.
Big shoes to fill.
erin go bragh
12-09-2024, 08:20 PM
Had a look on the derby forum about Dwight Gayle and it was mainly positive comments about him ….
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/42640-dwight-gayle/#comments
Mainly🤷*♂️everyone was singing his praises and ones who thought he was a panic signing, openly saying how wrong they were and the guy is class and still quick over a short distance and has kept himself in great shape.
Very enjoyable reading 👏
Donegal Hibby
12-09-2024, 08:28 PM
"We all knew about Gayles hamstring problems when we signed him. They were described as being like Piano wire. Just the same as Waghorn’s and Jules .Washington has a long history of fitness issues. None of us should be suprised"
Pretty positive tbh and I'm quite excited by this one but the above comment gives me the fear. Assume that's why he only played 6 games for Derby?
I think he did have a hamstring injury at derby . When at Newcastle he had quite a few injuries which probably didn’t help him reach his potential there even though he looked good and was lethal in front of goal at one point .
If he stays fit I think he will score goals for us . I see him more as a striker we will take on for Myko in the latter part of games .
worcesterhibby
12-09-2024, 08:43 PM
Dwight will Score a hat trick in the Derby and the newspaper headline will be “Gayle Force Wins ! Hearts Blown Away” prepare yourself for our biggest win since Mixu bagged 3.
:agree:
JohnM1875
12-09-2024, 08:47 PM
Dwight will Score a hat trick in the Derby and the newspaper headline will be “Gayle Force Wins ! Hearts Blown Away” prepare yourself for our biggest win since Mixu bagged 3.
:agree:
https://media1.tenor.com/m/Xf2-3wXNmNIAAAAC/rick-and-morty-morty.gif
neil7908
12-09-2024, 10:40 PM
Seems like a good signing and with a 1 year deal not a big risk for the club.
Would love to see us get an attacking CM as well but maybe that's too much to ask!
hibsbollah
12-09-2024, 10:49 PM
Looking at his stats the season before last he didn't do well in the Championship. The season after he was injured most of the season but did score at a very good level in the very small amount of games he played. That would be my expectation. He will maybe be able to play really well at a level slightly below us but only for the odd game. If he stays fit he may do OK but I'm expecting Commons and McGeady type contribution rather than Mixu. Hope he is on pay per play
He was deployed in midfield that season, which could explain the poorgoal production. Thats the one season he hasn’t scored regularly or at a good rate.
hibsbollah
12-09-2024, 10:56 PM
Ive no idea how that would be annoying. He was a £12m striker at Newcastle in the past. To suggest he is nowhere near that is pretty bang on surely? Again that doesnt mean he wont be good enough to perform well for Hibs.
You said ‘he’s nowhere near the level he once was’. That is clearly suggesting youre talking about the player’s quality, not his price tag, so bringing that into the discussion is irrelevant. I reiterate that neither you nor anyone else on here knows the level he is at now, or what level he’s capable of. Sometimes not knowing is OK. Just wait and see.
Donegal Hibby
12-09-2024, 11:04 PM
Let’s give the guy a chance , he just might surprise us …
https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1834214125804847314
flash
13-09-2024, 06:37 AM
Let’s give the guy a chance , he just might surprise us …
https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1834214125804847314
He won't surprise me. I expect him to do well for us.
7Hero
13-09-2024, 06:53 AM
My biggest takeaway from this thread is we're a poorer side minus Gayle. - sounds good
we all knew about Gayles hamstring problems when we signed him. They were described as being like Piano wire. - not so good
source derby forum
Since90+2
13-09-2024, 07:03 AM
You said ‘he’s nowhere near the level he once was’. That is clearly suggesting youre talking about the player’s quality, not his price tag, so bringing that into the discussion is irrelevant. I reiterate that neither you nor anyone else on here knows the level he is at now, or what level he’s capable of. Sometimes not knowing is OK. Just wait and see.
I think you're overthinking this a tad.
The poster is simply saying at almost 35 he isn't going to be the same player as he was at 27/28. That's just logical.
Nobody is saying he can't potentially have a positive impact.
Hibernian Verse
13-09-2024, 07:24 AM
My biggest takeaway from this thread is we're a poorer side minus Gayle. - sounds good
we all knew about Gayles hamstring problems when we signed him. They were described as being like Piano wire. - not so good
source derby forum
I'm sure I've read on here that it's only Hibs that sign players that have had injuries before so there must be some mistake.
JimBHibees
13-09-2024, 07:53 AM
He won't surprise me. I expect him to do well for us.
So do I
Brightside
13-09-2024, 08:03 AM
You said ‘he’s nowhere near the level he once was’. That is clearly suggesting youre talking about the player’s quality, not his price tag, so bringing that into the discussion is irrelevant. I reiterate that neither you nor anyone else on here knows the level he is at now, or what level he’s capable of. Sometimes not knowing is OK. Just wait and see.
OK. IF he is anywhere near the level he once was. we will sell him in January for 3 or 4 million, as there will be a championship team desperate to get him down there. He has clearly regressed from the level he once played at. Again, thats not to say he can't do well at Hibs as that is also a level much lower than he has played at. Given service I'm sure he will score goals for us.
WestStandWillie
13-09-2024, 09:18 AM
Our recent record of having an experienced/"well kent face" hasn't been too bad at all
Holt - done a cracking job for us
ALF - injuries aside, he made us look a better side in attack and had something going with Vente.
I'm optimistic about Dwight :flag:
Haymaker
13-09-2024, 09:26 AM
Griffiths is younger than him with a proven goal scoring record at this level.
Get him signed up Malky!
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CentreLine
13-09-2024, 09:33 AM
Our recent record of having an experienced/"well kent face" hasn't been too bad at all
Holt - done a cracking job for us
ALF - injuries aside, he made us look a better side in attack and had something going with Vente.
I'm optimistic about Dwight :flag:
Agreed on both counts. People often dwell on Holt being slow and not having scored much but he was so far ahead in other areas. Incredibly quick feet and quick thinking. His positioning was smart and he made use of his, dare I say, bulk to make space and opportunities for younger kegs around him. I liked him a lot as a short term fix.
I just don’t get the down some people have on ALF. He was another who let the ball do a lot of the work. He was sharp and intelligent with the ball and was not slow to fight back when required. His fitness was an issue but when he came on he always improved us. Again, a good, short term, option that we managed to squeeze the last of the juice out from.
Unseen work
13-09-2024, 10:35 AM
I like the older players from the premiership etc signing
Like ALF, I think Gayle will show his quality. Hoping he has a similar impact like Defoe had at rangers,
I remember playing for a team and we signed a 35 year old striker who looked overweight and had lost his pace. When the ball went near him though you just couldn’t get the ball from him, he was mentally still so much sharper and he was absolutely clinical.
I hope we see similar with Gayle
ekhibee
13-09-2024, 11:38 AM
I like the older players from the premiership etc signing
Like ALF, I think Gayle will show his quality. Hoping he has a similar impact like Defoe had at rangers,
I remember playing for a team and we signed a 35 year old striker who looked overweight and had lost his pace. When the ball went near him though you just couldn’t get the ball from him, he was mentally still so much sharper and he was absolutely clinical.
I hope we see similar with Gayle
Yep, that's what I'm hoping for too, Grant Holt and ALF were both good signings for us IMO, if he can still perform to that level he could be a good signing definitely.
Centre Hawf
13-09-2024, 11:47 AM
Our recent record of having an experienced/"well kent face" hasn't been too bad at all
Holt - done a cracking job for us
ALF - injuries aside, he made us look a better side in attack and had something going with Vente.
I'm optimistic about Dwight :flag:
I agree with you and I'm happy with this.
People might disagree but I thought even with Aiden McGeady we looked a better team when he was fit and able to play and contribute, the problem was his injuries meant we didn't see him as much. We actually even went unbeaten in the league when he played longer than 45 minutes. Then when he dropped out the side again our form went really patchy.
tamig
13-09-2024, 12:40 PM
OK. IF he is anywhere near the level he once was. we will sell him in January for 3 or 4 million, as there will be a championship team desperate to get him down there. He has clearly regressed from the level he once played at. Again, thats not to say he can't do well at Hibs as that is also a level much lower than he has played at. Given service I'm sure he will score goals for us.
Its getting a bit silly now. My take is that hibsbollah is a bit miffed at the way you delivered the statement. You put it across as a fact - the implication being you may have had first hand knowledge as to DG’s current level. And it was clearly a negative comment although you maybe never intended it as such. These pronouncements don’t look good. Just give the guy a chance to see what he can do at OUR level. He’s clearly not an EPL level player now, but he may still be a level above the Scottish Prem.
hibee-boys
13-09-2024, 01:00 PM
Let’s hope Myko stays injury free now🙏🙈
Cabbage-Patch
13-09-2024, 05:18 PM
Its getting a bit silly now. My take is that hibsbollah is a bit miffed at the way you delivered the statement. You put it across as a fact - the implication being you may have had first hand knowledge as to DG’s current level. And it was clearly a negative comment although you maybe never intended it as such. These pronouncements don’t look good. Just give the guy a chance to see what he can do at OUR level. He’s clearly not an EPL level player now, but he may still be a level above the Scottish Prem.
If he goes for 4 million in January that would go down as one of the best bits of business the clubs ever done. Can't see it tbh and if clubs were willing to offer that money means he's absolutely killing it so Id want to keep him until the end of the season as that will ultimately be worth more in the long run. Purely hypothetical however. I hope he does well but this is hibs we are talking about here. Probably blow up his cruciate 1st couple games
Paulie Walnuts
13-09-2024, 05:37 PM
Its getting a bit silly now. My take is that hibsbollah is a bit miffed at the way you delivered the statement. You put it across as a fact - the implication being you may have had first hand knowledge as to DG’s current level. And it was clearly a negative comment although you maybe never intended it as such. These pronouncements don’t look good. Just give the guy a chance to see what he can do at OUR level. He’s clearly not an EPL level player now, but he may still be a level above the Scottish Prem.
You’ve literally just done the same thing though when you’ve declared “he’s clearly not an EPL level player now”
Quite why people are getting upset at the idea that a guy that used to be worth £12m but has now signed for us at nearly 35 years of age won’t be as good as he once was is anyone’s guess.
Hibiza
13-09-2024, 05:44 PM
At last when we start to sign some decent players : seems they've all long term injuries or injury prone .😡
degenerated
13-09-2024, 05:50 PM
He won't surprise me. I expect him to do well for us.I think you might be on the wrong website :greengrin
Bostonhibby
13-09-2024, 05:54 PM
Griffiths is younger than him with a proven goal scoring record at this level.
Get him signed up Malky!
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Matty Jack role?[emoji6] or are you expecting him to score goals?
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matty_f
13-09-2024, 06:13 PM
I think you might be on the wrong website :greengrin
:faf:
matty_f
13-09-2024, 06:13 PM
OK. IF he is anywhere near the level he once was. we will sell him in January for 3 or 4 million, as there will be a championship team desperate to get him down there. He has clearly regressed from the level he once played at. Again, thats not to say he can't do well at Hibs as that is also a level much lower than he has played at. Given service I'm sure he will score goals for us.
Sounds reasonable, tbf.
Since90+2
13-09-2024, 06:42 PM
You’ve literally just done the same thing though when you’ve declared “he’s clearly not an EPL level player now”
Quite why people are getting upset at the idea that a guy that used to be worth £12m but has now signed for us at nearly 35 years of age won’t be as good as he once was is anyone’s guess.
It's crazy. Jumping on a poster for pointing out what would be obvious for anyone with any knowledge of how football works.
Haymaker
13-09-2024, 07:12 PM
Bring him home.
Matty Jack role?[emoji6] or are you expecting him to score goals?
Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkHe's a goal scorer but with his talent he could fit in the Matty Jack role. Left foot switches of play for Boyler to run on to... goals.
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blackpoolhibs
13-09-2024, 07:27 PM
I dont doubt he's not the player who went for 12m, but he's not going to a standard anywhere near the Premier League.
Sounds reasonable, tbf.
When his contract ends in May?
Bostonhibby
13-09-2024, 09:06 PM
He's a goal scorer but with his talent he could fit in the Matty Jack role. Left foot switches of play for Boyler to run on to... goals.
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JohnM1875
14-09-2024, 09:07 AM
See in the womens game there's been a world record bid of £930,000 rejected.
Won't be too long til the women's game is paying higher fees than us. Could argue they already are. Came on some amount the past decade.
eastmainsmsh
14-09-2024, 09:17 AM
Just what we need a natural finisher
Bridge hibs
14-09-2024, 09:45 AM
See in the womens game there's been a world record bid of £930,000 rejected.
Won't be too long til the women's game is paying higher fees than us. Could argue they already are. Came on some amount the past decade.
I thought this was the highest fee paid.
The current transfer record was set by the transfer of Alessia Russo from Manchester United to Arsenal for €1,285,504 (£1,100,000) in July 2023
JohnM1875
14-09-2024, 10:04 AM
I thought this was the highest fee paid.
The current transfer record was set by the transfer of Alessia Russo from Manchester United to Arsenal for €1,285,504 (£1,100,000) in July 2023
I was just going by the BBC article on there just now, you may well be right!
I thought this was the highest fee paid.
The current transfer record was set by the transfer of Alessia Russo from Manchester United to Arsenal for €1,285,504 (£1,100,000) in July 2023
Russo went to Arsenal on a free transfer following the end of her Man U contract. Arsenal did bid £500k for her during Jan transfer window but it was rejected.
Unseen work
14-09-2024, 05:08 PM
Tavares apparently done well when he came on for Motherwell today
GloryGlory
14-09-2024, 05:11 PM
Tavares apparently done well when he came on for Motherwell today
Vente scored for Zwolle today.
Unseen work
14-09-2024, 05:14 PM
Vente scored for Zwolle today.
https://x.com/goalsxtra/status/1834965345842454630?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Took it well.
Seem to have alot of time in the Dutch leagues in those sort of positions and not much physical contact
JohnM1875
14-09-2024, 05:19 PM
Tavares apparently done well when he came on for Motherwell today
Vente scored for Zwolle today.
Can only be a good thing. Both still contracted Hibs players next season. So at the very least will drive a transfer fee up if they perform well this season.
Cabbage-Patch
14-09-2024, 05:22 PM
https://x.com/goalsxtra/status/1834965345842454630?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Took it well.
Seem to have alot of time in the Dutch leagues in those sort of positions and not much physical contact
Shocking from the centre back tbh. Perhaps the Scottish game is just too physical for him. If he continues to do well we will sell him for a few million end of the season
Unseen work
16-09-2024, 05:36 PM
Megwa joins Partick on loan for the rest of the season.
Surely could have sent him out when the window was open to a premiership team?
Cabbage-Patch
16-09-2024, 05:37 PM
Megwa joins Partick Thistle on loan until the end of the season. Surprised by that. We only have Miller as out and out RB? Is someone else coming in potentially?
04Sauzee
16-09-2024, 05:40 PM
Megwa joins Partick on loan for the rest of the season.
Surely could have sent him out when the window was open to a premiership team?
Was there many clubs looking for a young right back? Probably was but there is also the fact Megwa couldn't play against Hibs. Think Kris Doolan will be good for him.
B.H.F.C
16-09-2024, 05:40 PM
Megwa joins Partick on loan for the rest of the season.
Surely could have sent him out when the window was open to a premiership team?
This is why I find the four year deal weird. He was never going to get in to our team any time soon. But going and playing at Partick, IMO, doesn’t really get him any closer to playing for us regularly. He’s already shown he can do it in the Championship, needs to be playing above that IMO.
Unseen work
16-09-2024, 05:41 PM
Was there many clubs looking for a young right back? Probably was but there is also the fact Megwa couldn't play against Hibs. Think Kris Doolan will be good for him.
No idea but you’d imagine a couple would have taken him if he was available.
United for example lost Strain due to injury, would think he’d be a good option for them.
B.H.F.C
16-09-2024, 05:43 PM
Megwa joins Partick Thistle on loan until the end of the season. Surprised by that. We only have Miller as out and out RB? Is someone else coming in potentially?
Megwa is our third choice right back and not even made the bench recently.
We won’t be making another signing to sit in the stand as well.
Cabbage-Patch
16-09-2024, 05:45 PM
Megwa is our third choice right back and not even made the bench recently.
We won’t be making another signing to sit in the stand as well.
Who is our second choice? Cadden is a Wing back/Winger and not an out and out RB IMO
Unseen work
16-09-2024, 05:48 PM
Who is our second choice? Cadden is a Wing back/Winger and not an out and out RB IMO
It will be Cadden, played there Saturday.
Cabbage-Patch
16-09-2024, 05:49 PM
It will be Cadden, played there Saturday.
Hope there's a recall clause because with our injury record we will need it :greengrin
CapitalGreen
16-09-2024, 06:03 PM
Who is our second choice? Cadden is a Wing back/Winger and not an out and out RB IMO
Cadden has played RB for the last 4 seasons, he’s not very good but don’t think it can be argued that the club don’t consider him as one of our RBs.
Cabbage-Patch
16-09-2024, 07:03 PM
Cadden has played RB for the last 4 seasons, he’s not very good but don’t think it can be argued that the club don’t consider him as one of our RBs.
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
TrinityHFC
16-09-2024, 07:04 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
Obviously he’s not.
500miles
16-09-2024, 07:26 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
Didn't look it last season.
LunasBoots
16-09-2024, 07:28 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
Because he's down the pecking order and probably wouldn't get alot of game time with those who are in front of him
Donegal Hibby
16-09-2024, 07:30 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
I don’t think Cadden is a RB though I’d still rather him than Megwa .
BILLYHIBS
16-09-2024, 07:31 PM
Best potential right back is Whittaker imo and he is behind Megwa in the pecking order
B.H.F.C
16-09-2024, 07:34 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
Because Gray doesn’t see it that way. Hence why Cadden started on Saturday and Megwa didn’t make the bench.
Bishop Hibee
16-09-2024, 07:37 PM
Best potential right back is Whittaker imo and he is behind Megwa in the pecking order
Agree. Lewis Miller is only 23 so I was amazed when we signed Megwa on such a long contract. Is Chris Cadden out of contract at the end of this season?
Cabbage-Patch
16-09-2024, 07:38 PM
Didn't look it last season.
So we give him a long term contract? Failing to see the thought process behind all this. I would agree btw he looked greener than goose ***t whenever he played last season. Was surprised when he got a long term contract. Thought this was the season he would finally make the breakthrough
Rumble de Thump
16-09-2024, 07:46 PM
He's an improving young player who was a stand out in the Championship on loan last season. It would be mental not to sign him on a deal of a decent length. Other players are deemed to be ahead of him at Hibs right now and he'll want to play regularly to keep improving. Pretty straightforward.
tamig
16-09-2024, 07:51 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
He really isn’t.
Brunswickbill
16-09-2024, 07:53 PM
No idea but you’d imagine a couple would have taken him if he was available.
United for example lost Strain due to injury, would think he’d be a good option for them.
Why would we want to assist United when they are one of our competitors?
blackpoolhibs
16-09-2024, 08:04 PM
My point is megwa is a better right back than Cadden so why loan him out.
Not for me, Megwa still has to do a lot of improving to get near a starting slot in our side, a position we are hardly that good in too.
It will be Cadden, played there Saturday.
Cadden played very well on saturday and just getting back to full fitness, maybe not a great defender but has better vision and technique than Miller, I'm sure it was discussed on here somewhere that they see Megwa as a DM in the long term, still a rookie football wise and one for the future.
Unseen work
16-09-2024, 08:18 PM
Cadden played very well on saturday and just getting back to full fitness, maybe not a great defender but has better vision and technique than Miller, I'm sure it was discussed on here somewhere that they see Megwa as a DM in the long term, still a rookie football wise and one for the future.
Must admit I never thought Cadden was great, especially first half.
His use of the ball and passing out from the back/down the line for Youan was poor I thought. There was also a point in the first half he let the ball bounce in the box and then made a bit of a meal of it which meant it went out for a corner, luckily enough we weren’t punished.
He does a lot of good with his energy etc and tbf it was a brilliant assist, but like miller his passing frustrates the life out of me
CapitalGreen
16-09-2024, 08:40 PM
Must admit I never thought Cadden was great, especially first half.
His use of the ball and passing out from the back/down the line for Youan was poor I thought. There was also a point in the first half he let the ball bounce in the box and then made a bit of a meal of it which meant it went out for a corner, luckily enough we weren’t punished.
He does a lot of good with his energy etc and tbf it was a brilliant assist, but like miller his passing frustrates the life out of me
His pass for Boyle goal was excellent, other than that it was a pretty poor performance, first half he was arguably the worst player on the park.
Smartie
16-09-2024, 09:18 PM
His pass for Boyle goal was excellent, other than that it was a pretty poor performance, first half he was arguably the worst player on the park.
I actually agree with what you say about his first half… I thought he was all over the shop. His brother strangely seemed to be getting more grief for his first half, which I didn’t get.
They both picked up a fair bit after the break though and a cracking assist from Chris for the second.
MWHIBBIES
17-09-2024, 04:43 AM
His pass for Boyle goal was excellent, other than that it was a pretty poor performance, first half he was arguably the worst player on the park.
No way. First half he was okay, few slack passes but defended fine. Youan a man down in front of him.
2nd half he was excellent.
The winger doing 5 stepovers then crossing to our goalie doesn't mean he's getting the better of Cadden.
JohnM1875
17-09-2024, 05:50 AM
Ryan Jack signs for Turkish second tier club
JimBHibees
17-09-2024, 05:53 AM
Megwa joins Partick on loan for the rest of the season.
Surely could have sent him out when the window was open to a premiership team?
Genuinely not sure at the moment he would get a game in the Premiership
JimBHibees
17-09-2024, 05:55 AM
Must admit I never thought Cadden was great, especially first half.
His use of the ball and passing out from the back/down the line for Youan was poor I thought. There was also a point in the first half he let the ball bounce in the box and then made a bit of a meal of it which meant it went out for a corner, luckily enough we weren’t punished.
He does a lot of good with his energy etc and tbf it was a brilliant assist, but like miller his passing frustrates the life out of me
Agree word for word with that.
Unseen work
17-09-2024, 07:18 AM
Genuinely not sure at the moment he would get a game in the Premiership
Yeah maybe right tbf. I think with guys like Megwa and just youngsters in general you almost need to commit to them for a decent amount of games.
Say 5+ starts in a row so he finds his feet, settles and actually feels part of the team and he can play his proper game.
Putting them in the odd game here and there or off the bench out of position is always going to be hard for them.
Although I do get the argument about they need to deserve it etc, but I think Lewis miller is an example of needing a good run. Even Josh Doig improved massively and was used well by Ross at the start
Must admit I never thought Cadden was great, especially first half.
His use of the ball and passing out from the back/down the line for Youan was poor I thought. There was also a point in the first half he let the ball bounce in the box and then made a bit of a meal of it which meant it went out for a corner, luckily enough we weren’t punished.
He does a lot of good with his energy etc and tbf it was a brilliant assist, but like miller his passing frustrates the life out of me
Agreed, I actually thought he let the ball bounce off his head that went out for a corner couldn’t believe what I was seeing, worst performance I’ve seen from him I think, was very lucky to stay on as long as he did, millers thigh was quite heavily strapped probably worked in his favour
CapitalGreen
17-09-2024, 07:38 AM
No way. First half he was okay, few slack passes but defended fine. Youan a man down in front of him.
2nd half he was excellent.
The winger doing 5 stepovers then crossing to our goalie doesn't mean he's getting the better of Cadden.
14 passes he failed to find a teammate in the first half alone.
CentreLine
17-09-2024, 08:09 AM
14 passes he failed to find a teammate in the first half alone.
If the team mate was Youan it was likely because the intended recipient didn’t want the ball. We all know Youan is a tremendous talent but he shows no sign of being connected with the team or the club. If stories are true, he never wanted to sign in the first place and wants out. You’d have thought he would put the effort in, in order to get noticed elsewhere but it all seems a bit beyond that now. He didn’t try a light on Saturday and Cadden spent most of his time trying to encourage him to make an effort. It was all happening infront of us in the West and Cadden was not the one at fault.
JohnM1875
17-09-2024, 08:16 AM
If the team mate was Youan it was likely because the intended recipient didn’t want the ball. We all know Youan is a tremendous talent but he shows no sign of being connected with the team or the club. If stories are true, he never wanted to sign in the first place and wants out. You’d have thought he would put the effort in, in order to get noticed elsewhere but it all seems a bit beyond that now. He didn’t try a light on Saturday and Cadden spent most of his time trying to encourage him to make an effort. It was all happening infront of us in the West and Cadden was not the one at fault.
So Cadden misplaces 14 passes and its Youan’s fault?
hibee-boys
17-09-2024, 08:46 AM
I don’t mind Cadden but he was awful for the majority of the game at the weekend, he improved 2nd half, as did most of the team thankfully as Cadden wasn’t alone in having a poor first 45mins.
tamig
17-09-2024, 08:55 AM
Ryan Jack signs for Turkish second tier club
Probably back by Christmas not having been paid. Seems the way with a few players who have tried their luck there.
Unseen work
17-09-2024, 08:58 AM
So Cadden misplaces 14 passes and its Youan’s fault?
I said as much at the weekend, but it really is crazy to me at times the amount of flack Youan gets and how he’s somehow responsible for other players mistakes too
Donegal Hibby
17-09-2024, 09:47 AM
I said as much at the weekend, but it really is crazy to me at times the amount of flack Youan gets and how he’s somehow responsible for other players mistakes too
Don’t know why either players is getting flack though Youan for some reason seems to get more of it , guys only after coming back from injury that’s kept him out for weeks and is going to be short of match fitness and rusty .
The big plus is he got 45 minutes and that will help get him up to speed.
Cadden won 75% of his tackles, seven recoveries and only dispossessed once according to what I read . He also got an assist that was excellent.
First half was poor but the 2nd half we were good and if we had of won by another 2 goals it wouldn’t have flattered us.
JimBHibees
17-09-2024, 10:15 AM
Yeah maybe right tbf. I think with guys like Megwa and just youngsters in general you almost need to commit to them for a decent amount of games.
Say 5+ starts in a row so he finds his feet, settles and actually feels part of the team and he can play his proper game.
Putting them in the odd game here and there or off the bench out of position is always going to be hard for them.
Although I do get the argument about they need to deserve it etc, but I think Lewis miller is an example of needing a good run. Even Josh Doig improved massively and was used well by Ross at the start
Agree with that just think at present Kenayo is behind the other full backs at the club.
JimBHibees
17-09-2024, 10:17 AM
Don’t know why either players is getting flack though Youan for some reason seems to get more of it , guys only after coming back from injury that’s kept him out for weeks and is going to be short of match fitness and rusty .
The big plus is he got 45 minutes and that will help get him up to speed.
Cadden won 75% of his tackles, seven recoveries and only dispossessed once according to what I read . He also got an assist that was excellent.
First half was poor but the 2nd half we were good and if we had of won by another 2 goals it wouldn’t have flattered us.
Tend to agree kind of thought the criticism of Elie was ott. No one really played well first half probably Marvin apart.
MWHIBBIES
17-09-2024, 10:33 AM
14 passes he failed to find a teammate in the first half alone.
Very poor that, although imagine a few were crosses/riskier balls in behind.
Trinity Hibee
17-09-2024, 11:42 AM
Ryan Jack signs for Turkish second tier club
Very strange move
ruthven_raiders
17-09-2024, 01:49 PM
Very strange move
Good luck on getting paid 🤣
JohnM1875
17-09-2024, 02:05 PM
Very strange move
Apparently the teams just been promoted from the third tier.
Greenio
17-09-2024, 02:13 PM
Just watched the Jack Iredale interview on Hibs youtube. Say's he's ready for the Rangers game if needed. Forgot we'd even signed him! Good to have some depth to this team finally
easty
17-09-2024, 02:15 PM
14 passes he failed to find a teammate in the first half alone.
We need the stattos at OptaStats to start measuring xCP (expected completed passes), cos in isolation your post doesn’t tell us if his passing was good or bad.
Pytheas
17-09-2024, 02:20 PM
Ryan Jack signs for Turkish second tier club
Good, thought he would be at St Mirren or Dundee. Still a quality player when fit.
SteveHFC
17-09-2024, 02:22 PM
Very strange move
Will be back in Scotland before the end of the year.
CapitalGreen
17-09-2024, 02:39 PM
We need the stattos at OptaStats to start measuring xCP (expected completed passes), cos in isolation your post doesn’t tell us if his passing was good or bad.
Fortunately I was at the game and can confirm it was bad.
Winston Ingram
18-09-2024, 02:02 PM
His pass for Boyle goal was excellent, other than that it was a pretty poor performance, first half he was arguably the worst player on the park.
This. He was rank rotten. Raymond and Kimpioka were just walking past him.
I genuinely think he's a decent player on the ball but I can't see where we play him. One of the worst 1 on 1 defenders i've ever seen and i don't think he's got enough talent to play further forward.
MWHIBBIES
18-09-2024, 02:40 PM
This. He was rank rotten. Raymond and Kimpioka were just walking past him.
I genuinely think he's a decent player on the ball but I can't see where we play him. One of the worst 1 on 1 defenders i've ever seen and i don't think he's got enough talent to play further forward.
They weren't walking past him. They done 5 stepovers and crosses to our goalie or centre backs.
If he was getting roasted that badly, they've have actually created a chance.
Tully
18-09-2024, 04:37 PM
Thought both St Johnstone full backs were poor ripped apart especially 2nd half
Bishop Hibee
18-09-2024, 05:44 PM
I count 28 players in the 24/25 first team photo released today. A record surely?
JohnM1875
18-09-2024, 05:48 PM
I count 28 players in the 24/25 first team photo released today. A record surely?
We’re not a happy bunch in the photo, are we?!
Probably just as well, be hundreds of comments under the Twitter post slaughtering them for smiling.
04Sauzee
18-09-2024, 07:12 PM
14 passes he failed to find a teammate in the first half alone.
Is that accurate? A thread on Twitter analysisng the first half of the St J game and looks like some passes from Cadden found his man
https://x.com/9125analysis/status/1836466740886167904?t=R4XhrXe9KxL6vtyMYUuVKQ&s=19
Unseen work
18-09-2024, 07:32 PM
Is that accurate? A thread on Twitter analysisng the first half of the St J game and looks like some passes from Cadden found his man
https://x.com/9125analysis/status/1836466740886167904?t=R4XhrXe9KxL6vtyMYUuVKQ&s=19
They seemed to all be about 5 yard passes when he kept it, there’s 4 in those clips alone that he loses it trying to play it forward
Probably is accurate enough
CapitalGreen
18-09-2024, 07:33 PM
Is that accurate? A thread on Twitter analysisng the first half of the St J game and looks like some passes from Cadden found his man
https://x.com/9125analysis/status/1836466740886167904?t=R4XhrXe9KxL6vtyMYUuVKQ&s=19
He attempted more than 14 passes.
CentreLine
18-09-2024, 07:38 PM
So Cadden misplaces 14 passes and its Youan’s fault?
Did you watch Youan in the game? Absolutely it was Youan who was barely trying.
04Sauzee
18-09-2024, 07:50 PM
They seemed to all be about 5 yard passes when he kept it, there’s 4 in those clips alone that he loses it trying to play it forward
Probably is accurate enough
Accurate enough?
Paulie Walnuts
18-09-2024, 09:27 PM
Did you watch Youan in the game? Absolutely it was Youan who was barely trying.
Does Youan not trying just absolve every other player of a poor performance because we’ll just pin everything on him instead?
Donegal Hibby
18-09-2024, 10:26 PM
I think both Chris Cadden and Elie Youan are good players and the criticism of both players is harsh for different reasons , glad we have both of them ….
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/inside-chris-cadden-stunning-hibs-27035150
TheGog
19-09-2024, 07:26 AM
Caddens stats vs St Johnstone
28157
So is Cadden the new Hanlon this year, a good decent win and we're still looking for faults, if all our players were perfect, they wouldn't be here.
Hibernian Verse
19-09-2024, 07:43 AM
Caddens stats vs St Johnstone
28157
So he didn't misplace 14 passes?
CapitalGreen
19-09-2024, 07:50 AM
So he didn't misplace 14 passes?
Different Cadden
Hibernian Verse
19-09-2024, 07:53 AM
Different Cadden
It's too confusing having two of them
bordergreen
19-09-2024, 08:01 AM
I think both Chris Cadden and Elie Youan are good players and the criticism of both players is harsh for different reasons , glad we have both of them ….
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/inside-chris-cadden-stunning-hibs-27035150
Agree with that. Elie can blow hot and cold, but when he is on it, he produces bits of magic. If he could produce the magic consistently, he wouldn’t be at Hibs. Enjoy him while we can. We also have options to replace him from the bench now, if he is not on it, which may make him hungrier and better. Which will help when we sell him. Cadden is a good player. We also have options if he is not on it. Competition for places with genuinely good replacements will hopefully lift us all over the park.
We have not had a great start, but I like the direction we are heading in under Oor Dave.
Springbank
19-09-2024, 11:50 AM
Agree with that. Elie can blow hot and cold, but when he is on it, he produces bits of magic. If he could produce the magic consistently, he wouldn’t be at Hibs. Enjoy him while we can. We also have options to replace him from the bench now, if he is not on it, which may make him hungrier and better. Which will help when we sell him. Cadden is a good player. We also have options if he is not on it. Competition for places with genuinely good replacements will hopefully lift us all over the park.
We have not had a great start, but I like the direction we are heading in under Oor Dave.
The "enjoy him while he is here" stuff maybe applied for Latapy, Sauzee, Riordan, McGinn, but it's not justified for Elie Youan for me. He's not in that bracket.
I will only "enjoy him while he's here" if he is trying, if he is being a team player, if he's worth a jersey
I like Elie and I hugely dislike any non-football crap that has flown his way recently
But Junior Hoillett is a more effective player right now, for my team, on the evidence of last week.
I enjoyed Hoillett while he was here on Saturday. I didn't enjoy Elie while he was here on Saturday
He needs to earn that, and if he's not contributing to his maximum (which is all we can ask) then I find it hard to enjoy anyone while they are here in those circumstances.
However, I agree with your overall point btw - I think we are moving in the right direction and the likes of Hoilett and Boyle and Molotnikov at the weekend were great to watch, and it seems in everyone's interests (including Elie's) to have a brilliant 3 months and for him to earn a move on Jan 1st, with everyone's best wishes.
Mcbizz1998
19-09-2024, 12:03 PM
Chris and Nicky.
Probably worth referring to them as such?
PatHead
19-09-2024, 12:15 PM
Can we shut this thread now. No more transfer news is likely.
MWHIBBIES
19-09-2024, 02:42 PM
So is Cadden the new Hanlon this year, a good decent win and we're still looking for faults, if all our players were perfect, they wouldn't be here.
I'd hope David Gray is still looking for faults too.
Do you think winning means everyone played well?
SHODAN
19-09-2024, 03:22 PM
Can we shut this thread now. No more transfer news is likely.
I will when I'm on my laptop, can't change to desktop view on my phone any more!
bordergreen
19-09-2024, 04:47 PM
Chris and Nicky.
Probably worth referring to them as such?
Nah, sounds too much like a couple who have invited you round for dinner…
Clarence
19-09-2024, 08:33 PM
Nah, sounds too much like a couple who have invited you round for dinner…
Strugglin to get a babysitter for that night.
Haymaker
19-09-2024, 10:02 PM
I will when I'm on my laptop, can't change to desktop view on my phone any more!Leigh Griffiths is still a free agent, still a chance he might sign so best keep the thread open IMO.
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Jim Herriot
19-09-2024, 10:56 PM
I will when I'm on my laptop, can't change to desktop view on my phone any more!
You can't close a transfer thread, you can only slam it shut.
eastmainsmsh
20-09-2024, 07:10 AM
Leigh Griffiths is still a free agent, still a chance he might sign so best keep the thread open IMO.
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MWHIBBIES
20-09-2024, 09:45 AM
Leigh Griffiths is still a free agent, still a chance he might sign so best keep the thread open IMO.
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Do we sign nonces? More like to go to Hearts I think.
Since90+2
20-09-2024, 12:43 PM
Do we sign nonces? More like to go to Hearts I think.
He's not actually going to sign for ffs 😅. What a weird post.
MWHIBBIES
20-09-2024, 12:52 PM
He's not actually going to sign for ffs 😅. What a weird post.
I did know that, but thanks.
Gmack7
20-09-2024, 12:53 PM
He's not actually going to sign for ffs 😅. What a weird post.
Almost as weird as constantly saying we should sign him, beyond boring
keep the faith
20-09-2024, 01:06 PM
Did you watch Youan in the game? Absolutely it was Youan who was barely trying.
It was his first game back from injury! This nonsense narrative has to stop.
ancient hibee
20-09-2024, 01:09 PM
It was his first game back from injury! This nonsense narrative has to stop.
As you say-first game back-given a run for 45 minutes. There are so many of our supporters who run down our players.
B.H.F.C
20-09-2024, 01:21 PM
It was his first game back from injury! This nonsense narrative has to stop.
I don’t think there is any narrative. It’s just how folk view his performances at times.
It was also Hoilett’s first game back from injury and I thought he applied himself much better when he came on.
JohnM1875
20-09-2024, 01:39 PM
I don’t think there is any narrative. It’s just how folk view his performances at times.
It was also Hoilett’s first game back from injury and I thought he applied himself much better when he came on.
Blaming Youan for C Cadden misplacing passes is mental though.
CapitalGreen
20-09-2024, 02:27 PM
I don’t think there is any narrative. It’s just how folk view his performances at times.
It was also Hoilett’s first game back from injury and I thought he applied himself much better when he came on.
Why do people keep comparing Youan and Hoilett as if they are the exact same player returning from the exact same injury.
Hoilett was returning from a non-contact muscle strain suffered in training while Youan is returning from a contact injury suffered in a heavy challenge during a match.
Blaster
20-09-2024, 02:27 PM
Blaming Youan for C Cadden misplacing passes is mental though.
Can blame him for leaving Cadden with two players most of the half though. Didn’t happen to Cadden in the 2nd half unsurprisingly.
But you are correct about Cadden’s passing first half. Did have one cracking pass in the 2nd half to be fair to him
HUTCHYHIBBY
20-09-2024, 02:36 PM
He's not actually going to sign for ffs 😅. What a weird post.
Might encourage Haymaker to give it a rest though, it's tedious in the extreme.🤬
B.H.F.C
20-09-2024, 02:53 PM
Why do people keep comparing Youan and Hoilett as if they are the exact same player returning from the exact same injury.
Hoilett was returning from a non-contact muscle strain suffered in training while Youan is returning from a contact injury suffered in a heavy challenge during a match.
Never compared the injury. Just the way I felt two players returning from a period out of the team applied themselves. I felt one properly applied themself and the other didn’t.
JohnM1875
20-09-2024, 05:33 PM
Dundee about to announce Scott Fraser. Think he had a stinker when on loan at hearts last season.
JimBHibees
20-09-2024, 07:12 PM
Dundee about to announce Scott Fraser. Think he had a stinker when on loan at hearts last season.
Assume he was out of contract
JohnM1875
20-09-2024, 07:16 PM
Assume he was out of contract
Aye, left Charlton at the end of the season.
Signed with Dundee til the end of this season.
Unseen work
28-09-2024, 05:42 PM
Imagine there will be alot of teams taking note of Ronan Hale at Ross County
Scored his 6th goal in 10 appearances (all comps) today against Hearts
https://x.com/hmfctube/status/1840041572139970815?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Brilliant flick and then excellent finish.
Imagine there will be alot of teams taking note of Ronan Hale at Ross County
Scored his 6th goal in 10 appearances (all comps) today against Hearts
https://x.com/hmfctube/status/1840041572139970815?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Brilliant flick and then excellent finish.
looks a natural goal scorer this guy obvs only see snippets of him but very impressive start
WestStandWillie
30-09-2024, 02:14 PM
I read that today is deadline day for the Championship, League 1 and 2 to sign players on loan.
Could we see any more departures today? JDH out to Championship for match fitness?
JimBHibees
30-09-2024, 02:29 PM
I read that today is deadline day for the Championship, League 1 and 2 to sign players on loan.
Could we see any more departures today? JDH out to Championship for match fitness?
Jacob McIntyre going to Kelty on loan
Unseen work
30-09-2024, 05:22 PM
Interesting Jacob is only away until January.
Wonder if SDG just wants him to get fit and then he’ll be in our plans come January
04Sauzee
30-09-2024, 05:59 PM
Interesting Jacob is only away until January.
Wonder if SDG just wants him to get fit and then he’ll be in our plans come January
Or see if he's ready to play in the championship?
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